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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so we're back.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I want to talk about the Kevin Gates and Lebron
James situation. For people who are unaware, Kevin Gates has
been in the hot seat of lately dealing with Lebron
James and his wife because he called out what he
thinks is a lack of admiration from his wife. Kevin
Gates is my guy, Lebron is my guy. But there's
a lot of game to be picked up on this scenario,

(00:22):
and I think we're gonna get right to it today.
Now we're gonna start with the video that kind of
cranked all of this off, but we're gonna keep game
at a high level. But we're gonna start this conversation
and this part of the show with the video of
Kevin Gates given his opinion on the way that Savannah

(00:42):
James handles her husband Lebron James in public pay attention.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm like, man, he want of the greatest players to
ever play the game, right, But I wouldn't want to
trade places with him?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
And they was like, why not? Howhy are you wouldn't
win a baby?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I say, because I don't like the way Savannah look
at Lebron. I like the way them white women look at.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Lebron like when as soon as he walk out that
they just be like they be dicked out.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
But it's like I noticed when he go do the
handshake with the main player on his team, which is
that it's like you act like I'm bothering you bitch,
Like I'm the greatest player in the world, one of them,
like top five, top ten, I'm one of them, and

(01:32):
I'm in the playoffs, and you act like you act
like the ward another jail, like you came here to
publice me like you ain't like.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
You not dicked out like me.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
White women just digged out about me and.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Him like so like I just would.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it, bro, because
when I've been around that dude, that dude just his
spirits so loving and giving, like like it hurt me.
It hurt me to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Now, Kevin Gates.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Shortly after that, Lebron James did respond to Kevin Gates
with a post. This post was not direct, but it
was intentional. It was at him in response to what
he was saying. Now, this is a very interesting situation
that we have to discuss today. The first thing I

(02:21):
said when I heard this conversation is a couple different things.
Did he lie? That's number one? Number two? Can Lebron
ever be friends with him?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Again?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
If they are friends, they're probably associates, people that just
saw each other in the business, sometimes running to each other.
And another thing that quickly crossed my mind is Kevin
Gates is in I wouldn't say a new relationship, but
he's in a new situation right, this situation with Brittany Renner.
What I know about guys is that sometimes we'll speak

(02:53):
outward but be talking inward.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's like they got me all MUSHes, she got me
feeling good, hope she don't drop the ball, and this
right here is important to me. So you need to
always celebrate me. Be celebrating me, right. So I use
people out there to make the point because I'm really talking.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm really talking to you though I'm talking to you though.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
You dig, but I'm really putting it down like da
da da da dad pick that.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Up thought, because you under my wing pick that up right.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
So sometimes men play that kind of game where they'll
speak outward but be really talking inward. Now, Gates ignited
controversy because he publicly critiqued Savannah James, that's Lebron's wife,
basically suggesting that her demeanor towards Lebron lacked admiration. I
think Gates may have failed short by using somebody wife

(03:44):
to make that point, right, because basically what he was
saying is, Yo, I don't like women. That's just all
calm and acting like they right. You gotta celebrate me
like I celebrate you.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
This is a two way street, right, you see what
I'm saying. So I believe that that that was his position.
But the mistake is using somebody wife to do somebody
you respect, somebody that you call your friend or whatever
you call him.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's where it can come off of.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Wait, now Gates did respond to that, and we'll get
to that in a second, But I just I want
to spend some time on the way that Gates kind
of contrast her behavior with that of other women and
kind of imply the lack of enthusiasm in her support. Now,
he even liking Savannah James to the Warden, he was
insinuating that basically she restricts Lebron.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But I want Gates to know this is a marathon,
not a sprint. Right.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
She been cheerleading for this nigga for a long long time.
And that don't mean that you all of a sudden
be lackluster. But you know what a spindiard chip set. Now,
See it's the rookie that go into casino and just
go to all the machines. She know what machine wining
for that boy. She know the technique and tradition. You
shouldn't get that boy where you need to be every

(05:02):
single time. It's science at this point. But I will
concur We men do like to feel needed, won't it.
And who's to say Lebron don't feel like that. But
I'm thinking that because Gates is in this relationship, that
he's kind of molding beloved.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
To be exactly what he wants.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And he probably feels with her energy that she's willing
to do what I need or to do for us
to be what we trying to be. But I think
he's trying to teach her, which is Britney Renner, but
he's using real life examples and this time the whole
world was tuned in. And so I think there's also

(05:40):
conversation around public relationships, right, because you want to be
careful that you remain as a partnership and not a performance,
because I think a lot of people travel down that
road as a partnership and could have been a real
legitimate power couple, but some along the lines they get

(06:01):
lost and it turns into a performance. And although I'm
getting this gift on your birthday, we ain't talked in
two weeks. It ain't like how it was when we
first met. I was getting that gift flying now leaving
the show, really pushing up because I really felt like
that now it's just part of the situation. I don't
need them niggas thinking you ain't and I don't need
them bitches thinking that you. You gotta be careful that

(06:22):
your personal relationship with someone, especially if you really love them.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
If y'all doing some love and hip hop shit, get
your money.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
But I'm saying, if you really care for this person,
and y'all have potential to truly be a power couple, man,
be careful that it don't turn into a performance and
y'all doing it for the ground. I used to like
Instagram where people were really living their real lives.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
But they'll show you.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Look what my husband done, Like we flew out and
he really done this. It's like there wasn't a service
to get this done now, right, So what I mean
is you have a scenario now where people understand that
everyone is living their life online. So you'll go to
some of these results and they'll have an Instagram package
where maybe someone to set a room up for you.

(07:04):
It used to be really that the only girls that
can have those kind of pictures and those kind of
memories are girls who that man really put that effort
in to make that happen. Nowadays, it's all a service
because everyone is capturing every moment. And that's also a
world where you know, some of my homies, like I

(07:24):
know some people that run their relationship like niggas du
buy nigga no public affection.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah see, And that's another thing.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
You can't just look at how we are in front
of these cameras and really judge that. And I understand
the contrast, because you see these bitches fanned out, They
fanned out and they really just want to fuck a
rich nigga, a big old rich nigga. That's what they own.
So the fandom is one thing, but this family and
so we gotta be careful that we don't mix fandom

(07:52):
with family, because fandom can damn them feel stronger than family,
but it can never mean more than family.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
It's a trick.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Fandom can feel stronger but never mean more. And so
you gotta know, man, when you got someone's family. And so,
what I would call an unintentional circumstance that came out
of the conversation gates Head is is that he wasn't
describing Savannah. He was framing Savannah. And these are different things,

(08:20):
totally different things. Describing some is calling it what it is.
Framing some is calling it what you think it is.
You can't describe some without knowing the intricate detail. So
it was no way for him to describe Savannah's and
Lebron's relationship. But he could frame it just based on
what he saw in the limited time or the limited

(08:41):
encounters that he had sought him. But I'm telling you
it was harmless toward Lebron. It was really about Shorty
that's under my wing. Let's make sure that you understand
that this what I need. Don't never be like that,
even if we don't really know what that is. I'm
just using that as.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
A reference point.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I found it extremely interesting that Lebron James responded to
Kevin Gates because, as we know, Lebron has been in
scenarios where he will not respond. Case in point, him
and Drake was cool for how many years? He was
literally underfied by the Drake situation. Caught over there with Kendrick,
it was really in question someone that they thought had

(09:21):
a brotherhood.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
He never responded.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
What this tells me is that him responding to Kevin
Gates was two or threefold right. One, It tells me
that that household was probably a fan of Kevin Gates,
like whether they are listen to his music, or maybe
like his interviews, or maybe like when he speaks. There's
some kind of fandom there that warranted a response.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's one. And two.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I can imagine that Savannah was at home saying, I
know you're not gonna let him talk to me like that.
I mean, at least online, a lot of people are
saying that what I want to present to the public
is maybe Lebron felt that and not on no disrespectful shit,
just on some you know, I'm gonna say something about
that shit, you know what I'm saying. And you was
a fan of that dude man like he could probably

(10:08):
feel away about that, And now Gates pulled a real
interesting card and showed up at the game the next day.
So he said certain things, and then he showed up
to the game, Like I think it's interesting because a
fight not gonna happen at the game.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Lebron not gonna walk up and beat.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
The fuck out of Gates, or Gates ain't gonna jump
up and beat the shit out of Lebron. This is
internet shit, right, This is just some Internet shit, you
know what I'm saying that.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
They just trying to keep it going.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
And even with Gates, I seen him playing the song
when he responded to him.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
First thing he did was came in with the song playing.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
So they playing into this shit for the Internet, for
the cloud, for the clicks as well. But I think
that Gates is tutoring his inside, right, He's trying to
tutor the inside of the house, and he's just using
real world examples. Now that doesn't take away from the
fact that academics had made allegations that Lebron James was

(11:01):
doing tool Man's with Drake never responded, but Kevin gatese
gets a response. I think Gates has to understand that,
you know, a lot of people look at him for advice,
for direction, and so there is.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
A level of responsibility that goes with that.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know, I don't think that he said anything that
should be tooking left field outside of again framing that
dude's wife.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now, if you describe his wife as one thing, you.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Know, I also want to say I'll applaud women too, man,
because I've been in mostly all long term relationships, so
I kind of know like in a long term relationship,
it's a different pace.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
You know what I'm saying. You got to brace yourself
in these long term relationships. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
You gotta have these spurts of reinvention. You gotta fall
back in love. You got to really anticipate that any
moment you may fall out of love, depending on how
much time you've been together, because you both for growing
in real time and things are happening, you adopting things
from each other that you may not like to see

(12:07):
done to you, but that you do. That's the worst thing, right,
You've been around, So you've been around someone so long
that you that they adopt something that you do to
them that you don't like done to you. And so
these relationships. You really have to pay yourself, brace yourself.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I do think that men do crave that admiration from
their wives and girlfriends and women in general. Like I,
if I'm just kicking it with you, like I really
crave admiration from you, like I crave the fact that
you look at me and know what this is, like this, yeah,
this earned, like this built, not bought all of the above,

(12:46):
you know, So I look at it, and I say,
there's no other feeling in the world that can replace that.
You know, a woman appreciating you and just looking at
you just want to tag it, looking at you and
just want eat a nigga off the bone, you know
what I'm saying. See some of y'all never even experience that.
And that's why I know what Gate's talking about, because

(13:08):
only certain men get to experience that when a woman
is just completely submitted, she completely just man, I'm just
I'm really with this nigga. I really fuck with this
one right here, Like he got me like I'm wide
open about this dude. He made me smile when he
just look at me, like certain things you can tell,

(13:28):
man that this woman is this woman.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Truly adores you.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And that feeling is irreplaceable, Like you know what I'm saying,
And I think.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
That Gates is basically speaking to that feeling.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
So I don't want to skip past that and act
like men don't crave that, if you ask me, men
are craving that now more than ever, because we live
in a culture now where women tend to want to
be celebrated before they even want to be committed to.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Right, you ain't even got to commit to me.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
As long as you make sure I'm turned up and
you celebrate me, and motherfuckers think you selling breaking me online,
You ain't even got to commit to me no more.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
See through everything is sped up with the internet.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I remember when you look back in history, a woman
to be lucky in her lifetime, right to be truly
celebrated on her wedding day and anniversaries moving forward and
things like that, you would get one of these enormous,
gigantic celebrations of love like what they just pour love

(14:28):
on to you. This was a married thing, this was
a one time and anniversaries and other special occasions. But
Instagram has now provided a runway to where people are
competing as to who's being celebrated the most because they
think because what they're trying to say is my sex
is so good, okay, And so they're competing about who's

(14:50):
being celebrated the most. And also you have women who
are competing and saying this puss it got me all
lists ap on the risk, paddick on the other risk,
big brothers outside, you did my pussy got this, you
know what I'm saying. And so this is them flexing,
not only the other women. Here's the interesting part. This

(15:10):
is them telling the men that they puss it good.
Now what if they got a simp on the other end?
What a puss ain't really good? But he spenting this
kind of money. You got niggas with money like me.
That's saying, boy, that shit must be foul over. So
it's campaigning. Yeah, it's campaigning. Let me say this too.
What's funny is that from the outside, and this is

(15:32):
what I'm saying, the universe is always perfect. You just
gotta pay attention from the outside. Kevin Gates, if you
ask his fans or you look at some of the
narratives online, he has always been in a relationship where
people have looked at it and said, yo, that's the
ideal relationship. Dreker was the ideal woman. He should have
stayed with Drinker, should have stayed alongside Drink. And I'm

(15:52):
sure their family so they still ties. This family ties there.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I respect women that respect the foundation, right, even if
you ain't with your baby mama, your baby daddy, your
ex husband, your ex wife, you still respect the foundation
right for the kid's sake, for the peace of it,
all right, the environment you got to raise the children
in should be a little bit better than one going
against the other. So I definitely appreciate that. With that

(16:19):
being said, while while the viewing public spent a lot
of time celebrating Dreaker and how she treated Gates and
how Gates appeared to embrace her in love on her,
Gates ended up courtside of a game with Britney Renner
speaking on Lebron James and Savannah James laying next to
Britney Renner. So what it looks like on the outside

(16:42):
is what it's not always what it is in the inside, right,
Reality is not always perception. Right Again, the fan narrative
would describe I'm sorry. Again, the fan narratives will frame
the Dreaker and Gates' relationship is perfect, but they could
never describe Drinka in gates relationship because you can only

(17:05):
describe what you have information for. And that's what Kevin
Gates feel sure that when trying to describe Savannah James,
but he ended up framing her. And I also want
to close out with this, seventy five eighty five percent
of the league is looking for a woman with the
characteristics that Savannah James possesses. Let me be clear, most

(17:25):
of these NBA guys are in a scenario where they
don't know who loves them, if it's love or what
is love. Lebron James is with his high school sweetheart.
They've had a family, right. So again, you gotta look
at the entire race. You can't just look at this quarter.
You can't just look at this mile. You can't just
look at this stretch, right, you gotta look at the

(17:47):
entire game. What is the cyst what is the points?
What is the average?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Right?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
The law of averages kick in, right, So we got
to respect Savannah James for what she's been able to do,
as it pertains to have in a high level man
in that situation.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
There's been no scandals.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
There's been no it's been no real public mishaps as
it pertains to his personal relationship. I mean, things happen.
People do have some of these, you know, hiccups. But
I mean, this could have been a disaster for Lebron,
right if he had a certain kind of woman. So
I think the I think that a large amount of
the league and I'm not speaking about looks in totality, right,

(18:26):
we can leave that off the table because I'm almost
certain that Gates wasn't talking about looks when he was
speaking about this situation. He was talking about behavior, characteristics, attributes, right,
And so again I would say that most of the
players in the NBA is looking for their Savannah. James
and Uh, you know, these two brothers I imagine to

(18:48):
get on the call at some point. I'm not sure
if Lebron can ever be close to him again, because
his wife probably views this a certain way. I'm not
sure if Gates understands that. Gates came back out and
he said he responded to Lebron calling him a peasant,
and he said, man, I'm way less than that. I'm
a serve and see, and that's the thing about Gates

(19:10):
he's smart. So it's rough to play with a nigga
that's smart because when you say something like, nigga, you
a peon.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Now I'm way less than a peon. Nigga, I'm a
serving to the almighty hot God. You know what I'm
saying that day? Huh, Yeah, I got you. Ain't nothing.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
You can say I got you. Reverse on though, I
got him, ain't nothing. He can say, it's over with,
conversation dead. And then he said, yo, man, we just
want the results. We want you to be celebrated. But again,
I truly think that he's double down. He doubled down
on it and standing on it. But I think that
message is for Brittany Renner. You know, maybe before that,

(19:45):
maybe before that cell phone cut on for that video,
maybe she was arguing the other side. You know, well, no,
maybe she's calm, Maybe she's always there, right because Britney
Renner someone with a very check of past. But here's
the contrast. If you're someone that is going by Brittany
Renners past, you can assume a lot of things. One

(20:05):
of the things you may can assume is that she
would know how to please Gates because Gates is someone
that has for lack of a better term, fell in
love with this woman, right, so we could assume that
she know how to please Gates. But when she's out,
she's all covered up. She looked like she you know,
like a like she looked like a Muslim woman. And

(20:27):
that appearance doesn't necessarily represent the activities.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
So again with Savannah, that appearance doesn't necessarily represent the activity.
She may be rubbing his foot when he get off
for four hours nigga after this game.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
So there's other attributes to take in consideration. Again, I think,
you know, I do think that there used to be
an unspoken rule when speaking on a man's family. But
I do understand that the fans have already been nibbling
at this narrative, and Gates, in my opinion, was trying
to speak to his new Wii, to his new marriage

(21:06):
or relationship or whatever he had he has with Brittany Renald.
That's my take on the Kevin Gates and Lebron James situation.
Now before I get out of here too, It's like
Gates came to the game, what is supposed to happen
there dumb fans may think that he should.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Have went over it like he did Stephen a smell. No,
he shouldn't. He shouldn't have went over there.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
That's something I would have done, if I'm being honest, though,
I would have probably came to the game too, just
on something. I'm coming to the game. Ain't no beef.
It's no issue, there's no real beef. I don't have
no beef with you, my brother at all, you know.
But I think speaking on a man wife, it can
get slippery.
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