Loon Reacts Akademiks calls Dude who exposed Drake_s DMs speaking on UMG Lawsuit & Bron

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tweet. Tweet says title in valor. What's going on, everybody.
We got a couple of videos we're gonna do today.
First one is gonna be about this scenario with DJ Academics.
For those who do not know, Drake is quote unquote,
according to Twitter, being exposed as lying to this designer

(00:24):
about what's going on with Lebron, about what's going on
with his UMG lawsuit, and for whatever reason, they're saying
that Drake fed academics information that was incorrect information and
destroy this credibility. We're going to react to Academics actually
getting this guy on the actual phone. So let's pay

(00:46):
attention to that. Right here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Sawn that people thought was supposed to be both of them.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
We had a conversation about it backstage at Migos. Are
bringing a three Migos tour about him potentially.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Again for y'all. Is just pouring in. Shout out the Patreon,
shout out to my YouTube YouTube subscribers. This gentleman on
the phone is the guy who exposed the DMS on Drake.
He was the guy that released the DMS where he
was talking about Lebron. Now, this dude has a checkered

(01:21):
pass in the industry. He was, according to him, involved
with Javonte Davis. He has business with Stefon Diggs. And
so before we get to the Drake part, we're actually
dealing with this individual calling in to academic stream and
speaking about Stefon Diggs. He's allegend that Stefan Diggs is
a gay in the closet. Man, things get spooky. Pay attention.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I didn't won the record, but my brother was being
managed by a dude, Nino, who was working heavily with
Party at the time. Gots in history. He's got early
history with Drake as well. If you know Nino, he's
got producing pedigree. But yeah, he fucked this situation up.
The dude in ll fuck this man management situation up
is Stefan Diggs situation.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Let's bring that to the folk.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Okay, let's get it because that's.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
The justified one if we really want to get you
what you need, Champ.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah, yeah, because I won't be all you like from
the word around town was Stepan Biggs. He smashing about
four rappers girlfriends. I never heard him smashing niggas.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'm gonna be honest, No dog is real activity. But
I'm gonna tell you it was. It was a couple
of fashion weeks where we're in a couple of parties
and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Bro, we are only straight niggas here.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
And then I watched him walk over to certain individuals
who names I won't mention that, why know, and hug
them a little differently then I would greet.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Somebody of another, uh sexual preference type shit first of all,
second of all. But anyways, it was certain times.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Even he put his hands on my shoulder as we
were designing his limb collection that ended up turning out
to be like some glorified forever twenty one men this
type ship.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
When we were supposed to be making contour, put.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
His hands on my shoulder and said, you know you're
the mused for this collection and looked at me dead
in my eyes, thinking to myself what type And his
girl was sitting across.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
I'm like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
You think he was trying or maybe what something cast
was good?

Speaker 4 (03:19):
This is like maybe he drunk or something dunk.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's that's not when he tried me black, He tried,
see all right.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Let me get a game, cham I'm a go ahead
walking down, you know, And.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
He called the academics be black.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Dunk.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's that's not when he tried me black. He tried
see all right, let me get a game.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Cham.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I'm gonna go ahead, walk it down. You know the script.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
If you got these bitches in rotation, you got to
find a weak point.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
If I got.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Millions and millions and millions of dollars, we can't even
call the boy. What am I willing to give it
to get what I want tonight?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ain't no telling.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's how this that's that's how homes is living his
life on the daily. So he might look at you
and your little twenty thousand dollars ax bill that you're
sitting on that you need to clear in order to
get your credit up and run.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I got that easy. You know what? To pay me
a week? That's simple for what for you? On the man?
At any point something like come on, I need that.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So what he's explaining is Stepfan diggs aggression as it
pertains to some of these Instagram models, some of these
girls you see online and everybody I guess won't too
flo out and have sex with. He's speaking to the
thirsty behavior of Stefan Diggs. Now it's about to get

(04:36):
interesting because this dude basically goes from Stefan Diggs, you know,
invites all the girls out, he pays their bills. He's
a trick. He's tricking hard shit. You know. They say
Instagram is a rich man's me and you all the
rich niggas I know say that. So I'm telling you right,
if you're right, we'll leave at there. But so what

(04:57):
he's saying is, Yo, Stephan Diggs, he done became a
freaker zoy. So he fucking so much it done got
to the point where he finished try the stylists. According
to the stylists and allegedly, don't drag me in court.
I didn't say it. I'm reporting the news, sap.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
That's the vibe. So with that said, he's setting it
up like that. He ordering him like oo eats and
they coming. Bong's got a strong play. I can't care.
He got a strong play here tapping with the agent.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Wait, step a niggasam pain for the joy?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Now come on, now, come on?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
What you think you think that you hold on? You
think he's cute?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
No got a mean game? I heard I heard you
know how.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Don't nobody don't nobody got no game? Like that. This
ship is paper play. You think Karsha going you Karisha Blad.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Hold I don't know who Blad is, but but hold on.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm I'm talking about Caresha act. You know the game.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Oh oh yeah, that is that's what ste things.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
They got it like that.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Now come on, stop playing, bro.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm let me. Let me, let me keep the main
thing the main thing, and just get your scrip with
Hey Ad, I see you.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You let them get you let them get away with
their lad. A couple of times it seemed like you
tried to stand up, but you let it go. Man,
that nigga was colling. You've laid for the first twenty
five minutes.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So what happens is you find a weak point, you
exploit that.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh I got that, this, that and the third, and
now that person's psychologically feels indebted to you. So I
had a situation where, you know, my my son's mom.
She looking at my life. She's calculating, you know, how
they go pocket.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
While yo, you know the score. She needs more for this,
she needs.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
More for that. And even aside from just that, she
looking at who I'm with. Now I'm about to have
new babies on and so forth, she want to cause
friction because to keep my attention elsewhere, let me just rouse.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Some ship up. So what she does and at the
time she didn't somebody who in the league. He's funding
the lawyer. She telling him a narrative that's completely capped. Anyways,
I'm like, yo, bro, I think I need. I think
I need And at the time me and step on
and design it, designing his line. When I'm designing his
line and he running the bread.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
He's like, He's like, yo, what's wrong with you. We're
riding back from the club one one night in DC.
He had just did the celebrity game.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
For his charity, so on and so forth, riding back
to his cribs, probably four in the morning, and I'm
in the car.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
I thought I had what was something that it wasn't
and I start, you know, my mind start doing shit.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Whatever the case is. We're riding back, he asking me
about who.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yoa whoa whoa whoa whoa academics gonna let him just
get that off. That was just a bunch of words, Sally.
Hold on, man, what the fuck did he just say?
Right there? And then I bet you after that he
gonna go right into some kind of dramatic point. Let's
run that.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Back show and so forth. Riding back to his cribs
probably four in the morning, and I'm in the car.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
I thought I had what was something that it wasn't
and I start, you know, my mind, start doing shit,
whatever the case is.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
When I busy, Oh, Pabo, you going to bed looking?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
What the fuck did that just mean? It sounded like
he hold on, he might be complicit. This is all alleged,
but it sounded like hold on.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Riding back, he asking me about you know, bro, you
just you seem like you need help. I'm like, Bro,
you got the public opinion, you got the you got
the big face. I need a high profile lawyer to
walk with me in this court room and help me
get my son back or denounce whatever she got going
or whatever homes is funning for whatever the case is.

(09:06):
He's like, Man, don't worry about that. You can get
that from me tomorrow. I got that, That's easy.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I said. It's not about the money, bro, I need
you set me up with a lawyer. He said, Man,
I do both. Don't even worry about it. Just keep
working on the line. So as we walk in toward
the crib get out the car. It's a nine to.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Eleven Porsch two seats. He put his lips to my motherfucker.
Ear pause, A part in the left lips to my
head talking about cut of my room.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
What man, hey, when I bus Oh pa root you
going to bed?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Man?

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
No, man, I know he just didn't say this. Man
put his tongue in his ear. My nigga, hold on,
run that back. Ain't no way. Your family ain't no way.
He just said, A nigga put his tongue in his ear,
and he kept working with him. I done got.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Mad, now going or whatever is running for whatever the
case is. He's like, man, don't worry about that. You
can get that from me tomorrow. I got that. That's easy.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I said.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's not about the money, bro, I need you send
me up with a lawyer. He said, Man, I do both.
Don't even worry about it. Just keep working on the line.
So as we walk in toward the crib, get out
the car. It's a nine to eleven Porsch two seats.
He put his lips to.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
My motherfucker heard pause. Act part in the left lips
to my head talking about count of my room. He
makes a left and go up a spiral staircase. I
make a right, go all the way down the hallway
to a bathroom. My pupils big as a bitch. I'm
swapping water on my face, cold water on my face,
trying to wake the fuck up for his lunch, like

(10:41):
about forty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't know hold long, man, when I oh, parrot, you.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Going to bed.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
There's no way that this dude is sitting right here
saying that a man put his tongue in his ear
and he ran up and dosshed itself in water. You
went up there and took a bath after the nigga
put his tongue again. Yeah, you went up it gonna

(11:11):
take a bath man, the nigga put his tongue. Man,
I'm sick of bro.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm gonna walk out this bathroom. It's a bunch of
girls in there.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
And we gotta remember this come off of word salad.
So this come off of him saying, take it mind
what he said, and all listen legend. I don't know
the guy, but take it mind what he said. Oh man,
my mind start going everywhere. Next thing, you know, he
offered me some money when I bus oh pa root

(11:45):
you going to bed, don't y'all forget that's how we
got here. First thing he said was, Yo, my mind
start going somewhere.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
And this thing, you know, you know what I'm saying.
I told him, Yo, man, you know what I mean,
I need a lawyer. Man, you know what I'm saying.
What And next thing, you know, his tongue in your head.
Next thing, you know, you go to the bathroom. Man, y'all,
nigga playing a wicked game in this industry. Man, I
don't want him. Man, I don't want to be no stylist.
Man I man, y'all, nigga. Man, this ship here getting spooky.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh god, I just shuttled this. There was a bunch
of people there earlier in the day. It's four o'clock
in the morning this morn. I don't know what the
vibe is.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Maybe you would try to take a freak off, like
get mad run through.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Nah no, no, you don't put it. Don't put your
lips to your man.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, you're right, you're right, yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
And he has slipped a little tongue.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
So I'm like, that's why I be lining to the bathroom,
wiping his little little bit of live getting get.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Oh, that's a freaking you going to be that monster
a fuck act yo.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
He he s posed to punch him out. Man. See,
but what do y'all niggas do. The football nigga that's
in good shape. You don't put his the nigga don't
put his tongue in you. You got to squabble him up.
You got to squabble the football player. Ass nigga got
to catch his squabble when a oh paw rooting the

(13:24):
pig just because of the nigga football player, y'all nigga
let it ride. Shit. Man, Come on, man, you don't
want to be and douse your face after the nigga
put his tongue in yo. Em My boy, Man, y'all
niggas don't win out the saddiest man funk niggas going
out sad. Y'all done went out the saddest. This is
the saddest I have never heard of. The nigga go out.

(13:45):
He posed to squabble him down.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Man. I think bro the same that quick.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
They drop parallel between an NFL game being like multiple
car accidents.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
If you want a bad car accident, say ship, look
at step there, what are gonna pain medication? Correct?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah? Yeah, you think he got CT if he if
he's taking the same pain medication that somebody at an
EDM festival will.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Potentially be taken to go crazy.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
This, that and the third there could be a connectivity
of an issue going on and the NFL got.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
A thing where they just want you to go out
on the field and perform habits conformed. So on a case,
I honestly think the drugs don't turn this butt up.
And he just couldn't. He couldn't help himself. He got
a little justified and it was what it was. He
tried the wrong one. I come out that bathroom, and
what happened.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
When you come out of the bathroom? Will you come
out of the bathroom? What the fuck happened at that point?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I come out the bathroom, I was greeted by like
three or four girls. That's trying to get me to
corroborate a story.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
It was also his his.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You know this this is way too like, yo, what
is a is?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Act?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Must be just right there? Lit, you know, just let
and ramble because what the what like that? This story
is not cohesive? I mean, I can't understand, yo, Okay,
So you guys are riding home, your mind starts to wonder,
and next thing you know, he's offering you a lawyer.
After he offers you a lawyer, y'all get to the house,

(15:17):
he gets this close to you without you being like, hey, bro,
hold on family, Hey whoa whoa?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Brother?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Don't get what the fuck was at.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Nigga? What the fuck was that nigga?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Like, he get this close to you, where he get
the bro, I don't even this something I can't even understand.
Then next thing you know, you come out the bathroom
and you say it's women there trying to get you
the coroborator store. Yo, yo, brother, what do we What
is this word?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Sally?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Bullshit?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
And this is why I think Drake doesn't lean all
the way in to academics because he understands that you
will turn around the platform shit like this, which you
have a responsibility to your audience. So I get it.
But if I'm Drake, I'm watching this saying, yo, yo, bro,

(16:11):
is he not paying attention? Like I'm wondering if I'm
Drake and this nigga talking about me to a nigga
who supposed to have my back end media. I'm saying
to myself, Yo, Bruh, is he not listening Some of
this shit this dude's saying ain't making sense right. And
this before we even get to Drake. This is on Stephan.
So he got an issue with Javonte, issue with Stephan,

(16:32):
and an issue with Drake. Now that may look like
that he's going crazy or he's bitter, you know, but
I'm telling y'all, as I navigate this industry, there's a
lot of people with broken hearts, that been handed broken
promises that people promise from gold and gave them silver. Like,
it's so much of that in this game. Like, Bruh,

(16:54):
I walk across niggas and come across people in this
industry that's on their way back, on their way back
from the industry with nothing. You see, as I'm coming
into the club, I'm seeing people leave the club whooped
and battered and beaten with nothing broken heart. This industry

(17:17):
is a weird place, my nigga. So you gotta remember
that you got all this kind of sexual devian bullshit
going on.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
This, in my opinion, up into this point, has been
words solid. Now we have got, you know, a chain
of events or I guess you know certain things that
took place, but it's not cohesive. It's not a timeline
that I can follow you and say, Yo, I understand
what's going on here. I think I understand what this

(17:45):
guy's getting at, and that's pertaining the step on this.
I haven't watched this, so I don't know what he's
gonna say, what he's gonna get to. I'm reacting to
this live with my community. So I'm telling y'all up
into this point if you're asking Loan with this, dealing
with words salad. After this we'll get into academics and
Drake and why Drake may look it at a certain way,

(18:06):
like people want Drake to lean in the act, but damn,
like you know, act is very unpredictable. If we're being honest,
He's an unpredictable nigga. And he stands out on that
hill because he say, Yo, I'm a content nigga. I
don't really need you rap niggas. Niggas hearing that. Man,

(18:26):
Like when I say shit about rap niggas, they hear that.
When I say, yo, these niggas kind of slow, main't
these niggas they hear that, so they gotta take a
certain kind of light to me to want to come
fuck with me, cause they know I'm critical of the
bullshit culture. Loan is right me dollar sign, I'm I'm

(18:47):
critical of the bullshit coach. I don't play the same
games niggas play, right, So when you come high, let me,
it's gonna be real conversation. These are live reactions. I'm
trying to just build my community out and fuck with
y'all on another level. But I could go in the
back cave and just pop out with interviews and do
two three hundred K honey k on a bad day, right,

(19:08):
that could be my vibe. I don't even got to
build the community, But I get jealous of these niggas
that got the community. I say, man, you know what,
people fuck with me, man, I gotta go fuck with
my people. Man, I gotta go build this thing, got man,
and let the people reach me and see me outside
of the work environment. Just see me pull up and
we just react, pop some shit on, just some real timing, right,

(19:31):
that's what we own. But always remember what we got here,
how we got here. This individual said he was in
the car he got up here. Again, this is in
my opinion word salad. Let's continue.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Brothers that was ended up getting charged and convicted, and
the robbery case that had to do with me.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I saw you post a video that was a cute segment.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
All on the way. I thought that.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
So the narrative we got was that because you somebody said,
how you missing the point where he said he drunk something.
I don't see. I didn't hear him say he drunk nothing.
I don't hear him. No, let me rephrase that. I've
never heard him say or leg that he felt like

(20:18):
anyone drugged him. In this industry, being at an event,
being at a game, being in some of these environments,
drinking is gonna be an option. So just the mere
fact you were drinking isn't enough. I need to hear
him say definitively, yo, I think that nigga drugged me.
I don't let beating around the bush and eating around

(20:40):
the tush my nigga say what it is? You doing
too much praying, pranking and promoting. Did the nigga drug
you and try to get it? Or did you bulldshit
and you trying to gas light us? That's all I'm saying.
I ain't saying whether he done something right or wrong.
But I wanted to address that, young lady, and if

(21:00):
you got more, let's continue that again.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's what this is for.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
This is for us to have a conversation and flush
some of the shit out.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Dick, they were beating your ass up.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
No, that's not that's not what happens.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
So what happens is in that moment they try to
get me to corroborate this story.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
They take my clothes, They put bullshit on me.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I had like a Ramo Trump, the big one, so
on and so forth. They took my suitcase, gave me
the most bullshit suit. A homeless man wouldn't take the
suitcase from me. Shout out to the homeless swear od
send me to the airport, no ticket, no nothing, matter
of fact, they put me in a car. I didn't
even know I was going. It just so happened to
be the airport I go.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
And I did have a return flight home from coming
down here, coming to.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
DC specifically for the celebrity game. Yeah, and I take
that ticket to the front desk and we were able
to swap it out because they took everything from me
and stripped me like literally.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
And set me back like I'm trying to get the
why thank you start to ask some questions. Academics is
sitting there like, he don'na do this shit for a living.
The boy been feeding you word salad. You gonna just
eat the word salad. He talking about some of the
biggest players in the game. He talking about Lebron and
Drake and Stefan Diggs and question the nigga's sexuality, saying,

(22:15):
niggas put tongs in their ear and you're gonna feed
me word salad. That's what I tell you, broke a nigga.
When you come out and you come to sell these
people something, you better be concise, You better have it together.
You better make sure people can feel you understand what
the fuck you saying, because if you out here with
word salad, they're gonna be like, what the fuck was that?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
What was?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
What do he just say? Are e cloud chasing? And
you can literally have been done wrong. I always tell
people the packaging it's almost more important than what's inside
the box. You ever notice how much detail and the
craftsmanship that go along when you buy Mercedes beans, I

(22:58):
don't know if people bought the Mercedes. Let's me down
a little bit people that may about a Gucci shirt,
people that may about a Gucci had an lv hat.
How how the presentation is important, man, It's almost just
as important as the product. So when you someone that's
coming out with certain allegations, or you got an ideal,

(23:19):
or you got a business playing. Man, I was hollering
at a dude the other day, great chef, right, I
plugged them with the baddies, Natalie done right, I plug
plugged them with them. He goes somewhere and I hear
him talking to one of the homegirls in the community,
and you know, he telling me he had the opportunity
with Natalie none and you know how it took place.

(23:41):
And I say, you know what, man, this is a
good dude. He always in the community. Yo, man, what
do you add?

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Man?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
What can I tell me more about what you do
as a chef?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Man, you know I can make anything. Let's see. Damn
all right? You know he and he's part of our community.
So I don't shun him. I asked him again. I
try to, you know, I try to just the question.
I try to. You know, I don't want to play him,
so I'm trying to, yo, right, but tell me, tell me,
what do you add right? What is your special to

(24:12):
give me a dish? What is your style?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Right?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I'm trying to give him a way to explain to
someone exactly what the difference between them hiring him versus
them hiring another shelf. And he didn't have anything. And
I told him, and this is just information for people
that's on the grind. I told him, I say, you
know how I got on so fast, young nigga. Number One,
I got playing purpose and prosperity next to me and

(24:37):
God and the universe is working in concert on behalf
of this here. So that's one, but two. I was
fully prepared the first time I walked into Revote and
I met the CEO to Tavio, shout out to them,
right they still now interested in all everything I got
going on from a business perspective and got chicks on
the board for me. But I met the Tavio. First

(25:01):
thing he said is what do you do? You know
what I told him, I had a whole spill I
had been working on.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
You know what I do is podcasting. A podcast thing
really lends itself to communication. That's what we lack at
this Like, I had a whole spill. You know what
he said within a minute of seeing me. You know
what he said? God damn yo, hey bring him back
here where we at like it was a private dinner.
This one puff was in good grace. They didn't even

(25:28):
know me, right, People knew me, they saw people coming
to speak to me, but the Tavio did not know
who I was. Bruh. After that, I end up on stage.
After that, I end up with a revote deal. After that,
I end up in the contract. After that, black effect
buys me out of the country.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
So I'm telling you, it's one thing that can lead
to another. But when you are on these platforms, bruh,
you gotta have this shit together. You gotta know what
you want to say, how you want to say it,
and who you saying it to. You understand that this
dude ain't serving number word sealing. But academics is starting
to push back. Let's see where it goes.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I now know who he is. I never knew him
in that regard.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
So now you have confronted the zest monster and and.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Oh my gosh, the Boogeyman is now alive. And now
that he knows that I know, and I don't corroborate.
It's just a walking ticket time bomb for me to
be able to do something along the lines of what
you and I do.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
So all right, let's let's bag up. I must have
missed something. Let's bag up. See, get some perspective.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
No ticket, no nothing. Matter of fact, they put me
in a car. I didn't even know I was going.
It just so happened to be the airport I go.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
And I did have a.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Return flight home from coming down here, coming to DC
specifically for the celebrity game.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
And I take that ticket to the front desk.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And we were able to swap it out because they
took everything from me and strip me like literally and.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Though like I'm trying to get the.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Why I now know who he is, I never knew
him in that regard.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
See this is what I mean, right, So everybody in
the chat, we got a lot of people on a
different lot of different platforms. Salute to everybody listening. As
matter of fact, Salute to everybody that continues to say, Loan,
your perspective is the realist perspective in the game. You
solid you know gangster love best doing it all that

(27:22):
shit man. Salute to everybody that's saying that I salute
y'all were working right now. Hopefully everyone is having a
great day as they watch this stream. But here's the thing.
Do you actually think that a man is gonna put
it's gonna get this close up to you, put their

(27:43):
tongue in your ear, put their tongue in your ear,
and that's surprised that you know who they are at
this point? Do you think that he would think that
you wouldn't feel, that you wouldn't see that that wouldn't
be noticeable, Like what what?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
What?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I don't see how that becomes a wild moment for
him because basically what he's saying is they strip me
and beat me up. Because when he put his tongue
in my ear, I come out of the it don't
even I don't know what he's saying. Let's run it back.
I don't even want to try to make it make
sense because it's not my job. He gotta make it
make sense. Pay attention.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
I go.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
And I did have a.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Return flight home from coming down here and coming to
DC specifically for the celebrity game. Yeah, and I take
that ticket to the front desk and we were able
to swap it out because they took everything from it
and strip me like literally and.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Like I'm trying to get the why I now know
who he is.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I never knew him in that regard.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
So so now you have confronted the zest monster and
say this is what I don't like about academics. You're
you're spitting it back at him and making it make sense,
because clearly it's not making sense. But when you do that,
you give them out. What I've learned in podcasting and
trying to be great in my broadcasting career, I've learned
to uh uh, I don't want to make it make sense?

(29:12):
What do you mean by that? Then you fall back?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, you fall back and what hold on?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Hold on one second, what what do you mean by that?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
And then you you put the motherfucking kind reverse and
then you cut tee. That's what made me and doctor Umar,
and I tell Umar is that's what made doctor Umar
have another run. If you notice, right, we put Umar
in a different light, bro. And now this is documented, Bro,
And everyone that has been in contact with Umar has

(29:51):
came through us except Joe Budden. But the people in
the South where you finally seen do doctor Umar on
their podcast on their show you know, after years and
years and you never seen like, oh, doctor Umarza, that
came through us, right. And what we're saying is I
allowed doctor umar although I stand for a lot of
the stuff he speaks about, I allow him to qualify

(30:13):
and clarify. I just say, hold on, man, that don't
make sense what you're saying by that. And see, you
gotta understand. I'm giving him a runway. And when you
give a master communicator like umar that runway, it's gonna
make magic. But so many people don't give that runway.
And I think that's a problem. But academic is spitting

(30:34):
this back out of this dude, I don't appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh my gosh, the Boogeyman is now alive and now
that he knows that I know, and I don't corroborate.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's just a walking, ticking time bomb for me to
be able to do something along the lines of what
you and not doing right now. But anyways, I get back,
I get back to La. When I get back to La,
I it.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Was Memorial Day and I had I was leaving my
girl house and I not knowing me, but I'm known
in the industry for connecting dots from the world of
strategic partnerships, and those people typically tap my shoulder for
like aesthetic curation styling, if you will. But it's a
little bit more personal than that. So Cromharts is like
a good partner online. We come up with exclusive pieces.

(31:16):
They always give me an access. I never had a
problem so on and so forth, which is why you
see Givonte Davis slurshing and that light as we speak
right now.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
But anyways, back to the topic. In my bag and
I just my carry on backs.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
It was the holidays, I'm moving around, you know, it's
la I might go to the club later. But in
my bag, I had a shit ton of just one
of one's rings, bracelets while it chains, so on and
so forth, which some of which you've seen stuff on
end up walking to walking into Monday night football and
later on in the storyline. But anyways, I walk into

(31:47):
my building, I get off on my floor. The first
thing I see is his half brother standing right there.
They say, what's up with all that Crome shit? And
I back onto that elevator and then he walks toward
and he put his hand in as the sensors were
trying to close it. It opens up, two brothers follow,
two other guys follow, and they pulled me out the elevator,

(32:11):
but Bruddy's strapped. But people don't realize is these niggas
had guns. You go out there trying to throw all
the fistfights you want.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I know the building. I'm home at the end of
the day. These niggas not home. I'm trying to get
my life.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, in my crib it's a Cromharsh jacket with one
hundred plus crosses on it. They're talking about the crosses.
Is x y Z three hundred per cross or whatever
the the case was at the time. This jacket getting
me motion.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm fucking with it.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I don't know what they really on, but I know
what they're there for. The first thing he said is
what's up with all that chrome shit?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
And I'm hearing niggas. You ain't gonna say nothing. You
don't want to say nothing. They got knives, they got guns.
It is what it is, Bro. I just had to
do what I had to do to protect myself in
that moment. But after that I survived it. So on
and so forth. His brother was charged. I didn't know
the other niggas. Two names, Bro, I got a history.
Like when I was coming up with who is his brother?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
His brother's name is uh not not, I'm not talking
about Travon and Trevaon have the same mother and father.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Because he right, there's a nigga named Travon in the league.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Right, Trevon, he played for the Cowboys. That's his that's
their little brother.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
The middle brother.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
His name is Dures Marshawn Diggs, but he go by
Marshawn because that's stepan middle name.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Has a different mother, So he has a different mother.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
So you're saying all the Diggs brothers a zesty.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
No, I ain't say that. I'm not. I'm not. I can't.
I can't. I can't speak the trade being a zest ball.
I can't speak to I can't speak to Stefan just
because of the personal experience.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Like I spend time time around the guys, and they're like, yo.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Bro, come to the room, this, that and the third
because in the room, you know the next question is.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
The next question is like did you continue to work
with shut up?

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Chanced up? Before I get the top of shit.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I ain't gonna do that. Trader hit me multiple times,
yo bro, conn of the room, this standing that I get.
There's seven joints. You know it's different.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
What if a nigga put his tongue in your ear
talking about count of.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
My room walking the fuck?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
What down? Give a fuck? What bit in your room?
You on different time? Well, best get back to the
fact that the nigga lied to you.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Why say, look see how he belled. You see how
he belled, And academics is gonna let him bail because
see see then why I'm telling you all about mind game.
That's why I came. None of these nigga fuck with me, right,
they know they came to trust me because they not
equipped that like I've been I've been out here like shah,
like this ship has been on the floor for years.

(34:42):
So in that moment and this dude seems to be
like a slick talking guy, this dude in that moment
understands that I just unloaded so much information and it
was all words selling. But I got to hear certain
points on this big platform that's gonna do the job

(35:03):
that I wanted to do, which is, you know, make
Stefan Diggs look like he's gay, which if he is,
that's his issue. And if he did some weak shit
like that he should have knocked him out or he
should have squabbled him down. He's a full ball nigga,
so he just accepted them. Niggas is big and the athletic.
Y'all niggas going for anything. But he understood that the

(35:26):
best way to get academics off this topic is appealed
to the topic that means something to him and involves him.
So why you let the man lie to you like that, bro,
I'll put him on defense, all man. Oh yeah, let's right,
so he getting him out of there. Hold on, we'll
get to that in a minute. That's what makes me
one of the best at this shit. I might be

(35:47):
top two, not too, but I ain't ready to say
that yet. I know I'm top five though, literally top
five on the mic in this genre period. But guess
what he understood that if it was me, i'd have
set that to the side of your homeboy. We'll get
to We'll get to Drake in a minute. Let's let's
flush some of this out where you're talking, my tongue

(36:08):
in your ear and all these different things that you're
throwing around. But he knew that act would probably move on.
And I don't know if he did. Let's pay attention,
all right.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Hold on, come back, hold on on, No, no, no,
we're getting through all these drake next drake so so
so basically.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I thought Act was a rookie. ACT didn't let him
get it off, and he tried to get it off.
Act didn't let him get it off now because he
tried to get out of there.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Stepan dich tried you. You didn't go.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
But then later because of your association and everything with
Chrome Hearts and you know, they realize you wasn't going.
They tried to press you at guns Nights blah blah blah,
charges got fired whatever whatever, But you got off of that.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Have you heard about the people who are investing in
real estate that we're gonna get this. We're gonna have
to get the YouTube premium to get get rid of that.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Holy shit before DoD Stefan Diggson cutting connection on us
chet hold on now the reason why we're getting into
this to the work.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Look like he was helping.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Goodness gracious that go to fight right now, there's.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Another angle or whatever, show us a whole bunch of
stuff happening, and so it.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Doesn't seem like he's lying at least about this part. Now,
what does him being gay? How does that come into this?
Is he saying that they've done this because he has
the information that their brother is gay and he may
be exposing it. That's what it says. Chris Blake Griffin claims,
oh that he just posted.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
This, So this is this has nothing to do with
him getting the alted in terms of him not doing
gay sex.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
But that is the backdrop. Let me try to call
this guy again. Yeah, my bad, my phone died. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, Greg.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
So so you know, I was trying to tell everyone
that this is all kind of sequentially getting to the
point that we're getting to because this whole thing with
the brother of Stefan Diggs does eventually lead into this
conversation that.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
You have with Drake.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Correct. Correct, Okay.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
So, by the way, we do have the video that
TMZ put out, and it looked like, you know, it
kind of matches up with a story that looked like
this guy named d Rez try to get at you
and the elevator him and some other guy.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Right, So it does it a did like I was
just saying, it does it does look like as as
it pretastes at least that video that you know his
story makes sense.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
They see me coming off the elevator, they approach. I
tried to get back in, they pulled me out, put
the beats on me. Right, But I think we got
more to discuss.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
One of the guys whose name I didn't know, that
yanked me out the motherfucking elevator snatched the chains off
my neck to say, my son, that ain't threatened my
motherfucking life in that elevators.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I note done.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Hey man, he going all the way. Man, he going
all the way when I bus Oh, Paul rout you man,
that boy going federal federal fed on y'all, boy.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
On god, federal approbation before I'm not going into the
Just imagine if you work at Goldman Sacks and two
guys decided to get funny and meet you at your crib,
and this that and the third after you the revolutionize
your life.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
So on a sofa.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I'm not going back into a trip back. Don't get
it twisted. And I don't mean the fast forward shit.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
And I love the boy, I love I love I
love I love I love the boy, bro.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
But at a certain point we saw a whole revolutionized evolutionized.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
We see, Hio. You can't say you love the boy
and you come out with this while he going through that.
I'm just saying, and I ain't on his side. I
don't got no dog in the fight. I'm really biased media.
I really can't be bought. Ask them niggas in the industry.
I done had every deal you can imagine run across me.
I can't be bought. Documented facts. I done been off

(40:11):
of companies, documented on Jesus Christ. Everybody in the industry
know this. All the big players know. Home can't be bought.
Home won't bush for that money. The boy won't ownership,
equity and information. And if I can't get that, I'll
scratching caw out of the ghetto with this shit. Y'all
have already gave me a mellion. I'll figure it out.

(40:34):
I done already made seven figures. I'll figure it out.
But what I won't do is be bought, nigga or controlled.
And I'm unbiased. I'm unbiased. Seriously, tie on around like
thirty thirty one.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Eventually he puts streetwet back on the shit like that,
but he became a man. I loved the boy, but
if you look at the no face video.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
If Drake going on thirty eight years old, he got
his arm around niggas, that's fully great. They gotta be
forty seven, forty eight, forty nine. I don't want to
see thugs doing that shit. I love the boy, but
that looked crazy. No face, no face, no face with
niggas that got kids. That's my age.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Come on, bro, I don't want to see that from
my goat. I want you go grab a few young
niggas that got the ability.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
To spit like Yatty or some something some some something.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
And give them a platform similar to what yours was.
Charge them boys up, you got the intel. You talking
about making the building a safer place.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Do some shit like that.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Okay, So all right, So so again we want to
get we want to get fully into the drink. So
plus see.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
But again, and let me say this right because you know,
I know, you know how how I came in the
game was such a force. Right, spoke on acts, spoke
on a couple of these niggas winning check no jumper.
When it got like I come in like you ain't
never seen nigga. I come in, yo, bro. When I
do the documentary, I come in so hard. So I

(41:57):
know a lot of these niggas don't know how to
take me. They think, man, that nigga there man goodness,
and they know I'm the truth. So let me say this.
The last couple of months or for the I think
Academics has been gone for baby a month. I think
he said Joe Budden was going through what he was
going through. Four month. Charlemagne was gone for damn near
a couple weeks on vacation, YO, without us for I

(42:21):
promise to God, I don't know who to fuck y'all
to listen to to get these breakdowns. That's on Jesus Christ.
That's on g I'm talking about. That's on Jesus Christ.
I don't know without me, Joe Budden, Charlemagne and Academics,
I don't know where y'all get like this kind of conversation,
like the intricate details like the levels and the layers

(42:42):
and the unpacking, And I don't know where y'all get
that from.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Y'all gotta really be thankful that niggas crack these mices
and cut this shit on and really get it going,
because BRU, the market will really suffer if we leave
y'all with and I say this respect and I ain't
eve gonna say nigga's name, But if we had to
leave y'all for two years with these niggas breaking this
ship down, to me, that's my opinion, my style of

(43:06):
the shit. I like to listen to the entertainment, the
information that's in there, Like, it's a lot to go
with this game, bro, and I appreciate those that appreciate
us that's on this side of it and trying to
break all of this shit down, all right.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
So the Free Chap, Atlanta, So the Free Chap, the
Free Chap shows up on the Eye Black. When the
Free Chap shows up on the Eye Black, I find
out it's a guy by the name of Charlie Jordan
who also has been involved in a bunch of other shit.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
This, that, and the third.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
At a point in time, he might be free now
from what people have been sending me so on and
so for, but at this point in time, they had
him arrested in Maryland or something along those lines for
drugs and guns. It was a bunch of shit if
you look at like the little tags on my story,
that justice.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
For Chris Blake type shit. My Instagram is Chris Blake Griffith.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
If you look at the highlights on my story, you'll
see exactly what I'm talking about. Is I break it down,
this things uncovering in front of my own own eyes.
It was Instagram detectives to help bring the ship to
the light. The reason them boys didn't get charged because
I didn't know their name.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Oh, Charlie Jordan. Okay, soar Bingo. So he got arrested
in connection to some of the ship he did to you.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
He got arrested on some whole other ship.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
But wait, he later got a charge for that too, Yes, okay,
cool cool?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
And then there's another guy named Corey Darnell Mack ok.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Bingo, he was He was the third party two of them,
two boys I had no intel on until he decided.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
To walk out on the field with the free under.
At this point in time, Bro, it's big bank, little bank.
The same way we was talking.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
About, how it goes whooping him for something.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Man, So these niggas be holes too. I hate to
say it, but it is what it is. I watched
people switch on me.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Quicker than a blick a glock accessory. Bro, I'm talking
about snaper my mother fucking finger. So to see the
boy pull the plug on me as I'm you gotta
think if I'm saying I'm close to you in the
same way, you come to DC and as soon as
you laying all the.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Guys hit me they want to go to Rose Bar.
I'm setting it up. It's a Monday. It's I like that, CJ,
Mark Chubbs want to go out this, that and the
third week got roll.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
So basically Stefan Diz is wearing the free chap, which
is the guy who put the beats on this dude,
and I guess that shows the affiliation and basically saying, yeah,
you know who sent their missile that way? You know,
it's like Ukraine them when they want to take credit
for an attack or take credit for what it's took in.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Place on a Monday, it's probably just us there literally
on some shit like that.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Or Daniel from Division come to the city one hundred
wings from stadium, two hundred wings from stadium.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
It was almost like I was the marror in that sense.
So as I go around moving.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Around guys like Dreda mal who got relationships with push
your teeth and you got beef and I'm in a
city like DC where pushing t actually lives on the outskirt,
So Bro, I'm actually holding the floor.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I got this obo shit in my skin. I'm in LA.
I got homeboys that come from all walks of life.
As I'm out here, bro, I get busy.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
That said, if my fucking if I'm around Kendrick people
to stand in the third and I'm still holding the fence.
Same way when I was around g and I was
constantly waving the OVO flag and his nigga was telling
me I was Dick riding because I was doing it
for free because I saw them on fucking vision. Bro.
But what I'm saying is when Hanks pulled the plug
on me after I have still with him and aligned
with him for all this time.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Like, Bro, shit you on okay and I didn't even
ask you for nothing?

Speaker 5 (46:33):
And I said, okay, perfect. So so so now let's
get to the Drake stuff. And I'm gonna pull that
up on a separate tab, right, So all right, so
now we get the whole stuff on Dick's thing, we
get his brother get here.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I don't know about y'all. I didn't really get much
out of that. I didn't get any information about how
long did you work with him after he put his
tongue in your ear? How did he even get to
a position even think you would expose him when that
night after it happened, you didn't knock him out, You
didn't say anything to him, like after it happened, all

(47:09):
of a sudden, ladies are outside of the bathroom and
you just dip out like there's a lot of holes
in that. But again, I think the interest from academics
lies in the Drake subject because his credibility was on
the side of Drake with this gentleman. So this gentleman,
according to him, had a conversation with Drake, and I'm
sure they'll explain it. Pay attention free Chap.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
We hear all that right now.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
We then later see you publish these dms that that
has to Drake. It appeared that looked like you guys
were having a conversation. Look at the conversation didn't go
too well. I want you to give me the context
because the conversation was later posted by you, and from
what we see, like I'm looking on one of your posts,

(47:54):
he says, damn gangnn follow me from college day play
blah blah blah. Explain to me what the nature of
the conversation in the last couple of days was and
where the disappointment and breakdown was that led to all
of this and subsequently you putting out these dms, which,
by the way, and I'll tell you this. You know,
he basically says you're spiraling. He says, your captain cloutches.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Okay, okay, great, that don't make me a liar.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Okay, No matter what you want to call me whatever,
no matter what adjective you pull out the book, whatever
sending him you pulled for said adjective, that don't make
me a liar. And what it did for me when
he called me a liar. And I'm gonna get to
your point, but what it did for me when he
called me a liar, It made me think about everything
that everybody ever said about that man, about his writing credits,
when I see forty five fucking names or anything of

(48:45):
a life bro. And I want to speak respectfully because
at the end of the day, he's still my goat.
I just think what he did with some Karen shit
not always.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Let's talk about how perception can be swayed even by
people close to you. This is why Drake is so
emotionally attached and emotionally vulnerable when it comes to not
like us. People in his real life are being affected
by the perception changing, and Drake is such a big

(49:13):
artist that he doesn't. He thought he was the exception
to the rule. Yeah, they're change on everybody except me.
I'm too big for him to change on me. I'm
bigger than Mike, I'm bigger than the Beatles in the
stream and the era. Like I'm the biggest. They ain't
gonna change on me.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
They need me.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
If you remember Drake, what did he do? He would
always say, Yo, when them niggas need to hear this,
they come get me. It always sounded like Drake feature
and Drake like he would always position himself like everybody
can everybody can get it except me. And I believe

(49:50):
that now him seeing the very people that was around him,
the Lebrons, DeMar DeRozan's, the hundreds of fucking content creators,
the Rappers, the Futures, the Metros, all these different individuals
as he see them exit stage left. You gotta remember

(50:13):
it never crossed his mind. Out of all the things
that dude prepare for it was never this. The numbers
just didn't give this an opportunity to creep into his
roller deck, says it pertains to thinking about the outcome
of the next few years. It just never thought. I
never pictured this. They all need me. I wish I

(50:37):
had an evil lab because I will put it right there.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
And if you look at me like I'm spiraling, how
to fuck it, look in front of the that's what
I'm getting to. Let me.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Let me get to my point in the middle of
a rap beeft bro, And I don't know if it's American,
And I speak respectfully because at the end.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Of the day, these boys raised me in too a sense.
So I just want to make sure I'm speaking respectfully. Bro.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
You don't you don't file a lawsuit for defamation when
you said the same shit about him that he said
about you, vice versa.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
That's a that's that's it's a word for that. Come on, bro,
we don't play like that. That's foolish. It's in the
middle of a rap piest defamation. You want to pull
that card?

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Do you think that that was sideways?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
That's what that's what That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Sisters, say yo, hold on this nigga can't say nothing
about Snitcher? What my motherfucking when I, oh, Paul Rout,
how is this dude gonna say anything about snitch? And
when he went to the police about what happened to
Stefan Diggs, when his brother when he sent his brothers
to him.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Shut up, dass up before I get to talking shit
about you.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Now we now, all of a sudden, we don't do that. Now,
we don't do that. You just came from the motherfucking
police department. You just left officer do bed. Nigga, How
all of a sudden, we don't do this now Now now, nigga,
you ain't gonna run that play. You ain't gonna be
able to run that one. Which one you're working because

(52:01):
that one ain't gonna work. That one is not working,
Not on me.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Steve Drake doing that was a stitch me.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
What he's doing on the label right now is taking
a flashlight and saying, Oh, all the bullshit that you
did on me, you did it for him too.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Outn't align with that, so now everything gotta blow up.
It's like watching It's like watching Frank lucas.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
An American gangster to a certain degree and again, I
speak respectfully. It's not necessarily no street shit. And when
I was trying to relate to homes is my shit
ain't no street shit. I don't know these niggas on
no street shit. Stiff, I ain't no street motherfucker. He
got a couple of dollars.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Also, let's think about this and respectfully to this gentleman.
I know if you're looking at this, which I'm sure
somebody may send it to you, I'm just speaking to
what you're saying. I don't know you, your character, you're
on academic stream. I've never met you. I'm speaking to
only what I'm dealing with coming out of your mouth
here right you're talking about You cast so much much

(53:00):
about Drake and his well being, and he shouldn't have
filed a lawsuit. It doesn't look good, homie. Is so
much contradiction in your comments and your statements because in
the middle of the said lawsuit you asked him to
post something that would be deemed snitching on Stefan Diggs.

(53:20):
So if you cared enough for him not to file
a lawsuit, that, in his opinion, justifies his ability to
continue to work with Universal in a way that's lucrative
for both of them. Then why would you want him
to post something that you know the coach are gonna
come right out after Kenny Done tried to stomp him
at the coach You're gonna come right out and say, man,

(53:41):
you see what Drake post about Stepan dis that nigga
of police man, that boy when straight police man, that
nigga puts Stephon Digs up there beating a dude up man,
he got a hundred some thousand five right median followers.
People would have instantly said that, so don't. I don't
really think I believe that he cares much much as
he's lead known as he's speaking to academics. I could

(54:03):
be wrong. That's my opinion based on what's coming out
of his mouth.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
A couple of dollars of some crashing of dummies, and
that's why the shit went the way it went.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Justified Press the button. It is what it is that's
press the button.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
It's also let me ask you, did you share these
opinions before things went left? Because I think people will
be like, if did you stand by him follow a
lawsuit until you felt you were done wrong?

Speaker 2 (54:31):
No?

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I never, I never, I never necessarily stood by him
following the lawsuit. And what I also want to clear
clarify to you is these messages are not from the
last couple of days.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
We had this conversation over the holidays, he and I.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I gave him ample amount of time because at the
end of the messages it says, give me some time.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I'm on a plane. I'm gonna find another place to
write this, this, that, and the third. I waited and
in true Drake's fashion, you wrote me off and then
you never wrote back. I'm not here to tell no songs.
These is cold facts. Come on, come on, I wait
the ample you go through the stream with aiden. I'm waiting,
get me ask a question like it's like it's like
the Varnel.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Jones episode of Martin when Varnell said that he could
come on the show and he didn't actually expect him
to get it.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Do you understand the parallel? No?

Speaker 4 (55:15):
No, no, I do hear you, and and I understand it.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
But but let me ask you a question because you
said to me you didn't ask for anything, but but
your behavior does appear like you felt like he didn't
deliver something or didn at least give you an answer.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
So what did you expect even going to him with this?

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Because if and again you know, we could, we could,
we could later you know, go through some additional steps
to make sure these are actually verified, actual d ms.
But if if, if we're just gonna go with that,
that saying already what he was saying right like, he
said something to you.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
He says, you're asking me to pose the tape about you.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I got you, I got you. So I clarify that,
and and and and uh and a GFF I sent
I was working on a mixtape and I sent it.
It's called Chris Blake the Mixtape.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
It's available everywhere right now on my Instagram is Chris
Blake Griffin Chris Blake the Mixtape. I'm working on it
and I and I sent him the soundtout link before
it even went up.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Oh so he a rapper, shut up, danced up before
I get the topic.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Shit about you?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Say less?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
It's chilling.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
He and I every now and again with chat and
the DM so on and so for I can prove it,
bro like to talk about you.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Are you from Jersey or New York or whatever? I'm
from Bottomore If I was home. I just ride down
the street. I could show you. Why would I lie
to you? But anyways, back to and he didn't even
say ahning o d for me to Why would I
Why would I create d MS making myself calling myself
a wret? It doesn't even make sense. Anyways, back to
the topic, what you asked me.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
So what he said to you is that you're asking
him to pull Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
So I sent I sent him the tape. I sent
him the tape early I center, I said, Yo, let
me know what you think. And then after I said,
let me know what you think. It's just marinate, it's cool.
I didn't expect nothing. I just said, let me know
what you think.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Once I seen that he had unfollowed me, it wasn't
that I expected him to do anything. At that point
in time, my social media was just was was the
only platform I had to be able to elevate my
voice against the quote unquote powers that be that have
more popularity or more capital or access to capital, so
on and so forth, to be able.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
To suppress what actually occurred to me that I deemed
to be wrong. So at that point in time, at
the very least I.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Expected my family to just not switch people I considered
to be friends to not switch, and me knowing the
relationship that back dates since the early stages of his
career from so far gone days.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
What was that relationship?

Speaker 5 (57:51):
Because again I see post a few things, but you
might have to contextualize it because ye, and I'm not
playing deliography, but I cann't it sound like if all
these vessors are true, right? It sounds like you said, Yo, dude, Yo,
I want to be left out of your issue. I

(58:12):
don't want to be a guy posting or this up.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
This is my thing. You still follow the niggas that
don't even fuck with you, g don't even fuck with you.
That's why I sent them the box with I'm talking
about Giavante. He followed cashing them.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
He don't even follow.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Drake back the reason he never saw it and every
time I would see prey, I gotta keep answering the
question because he wrote g asking.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
For some gloves.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
He's like, Yo, can you coordinate this for me? G
asked me that I go get the gloves. I lay
all the gloves out of the crib for multiple days,
multiple weeks, multiple months. I kept laying these gloves out
with the shop. Prim only asked for one pair of gloves.
But out of my just thinking strategic mind, I'm gonna
bless all the guys because if I give to one,
I know the next one you I need some too.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
So I just lay it all out.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
You can look at the thing and men and see
the names Oliver, Future, the Prince Rock, so on and
so forth, to the guys that got relationships to and.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
So on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I laid them all out for the gloves to get signed.
He looks at me and tell me, I'm not signing
no gloves for a nigga. Feel away my shorts if
he can show.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Me he's still.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Wait hold on, okay, we're getting somewhere now. So you're
saying that Jamonte Daves refuse to sign these boxes, why,
like what I just told you, he did just too
because drake shorts.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
He has a memorabilia like haul at his crib jersey,
so on and so forth. When the boy would post
he looking like were my shorts?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Were my shorts? Where my shorts just no different?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
If you gave him like some form of like expensive
memorabilia and you had like a memorabilia section in your home,
you'll probably look at it.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I think he calls it the Hall of Fame. Don't
quote me. I don't want to be wrong. I usually
be right. That's why I don't like I'm Drake careful
with my words. But yeah, he was looking for it,
and he was like, man, he don't got my ship.
He don't got my ship. If he can show me this.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
That I do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
And he never did it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
But even still, I'm always offering tickets to the gods
for the fights because they would ask. I'm always offering
the plug. I'm always sending the invite. I'm always doing
what I got to do in the opportunity was always
vice versa.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Sure, all right, so listen out, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
So this dude seems to have a relationship with Drake.
I mean, I don't know why Drake would deny the DMS.
Let's let's read what he said about lebron Net. I
guess they'll get to here in a second.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Drake got the shows. That was the Apollo Theater, this, that,
and the third. I couldn't even get right myself. I'm
sending Stefan's assistant, you know what I mean, under my
name or sending my girl under my names or my
ex on my BM under my name. It was never
a problem in that regard, and we always had that kinship.
It was always like that. It was always love, even
if it was me on behalf of G or me

(01:00:51):
by myself, it was always loved. So to be in
a situation where all I really needed was nobody else
to switch, just don't nobody else leave me on this
island by myself when I'm watching everybody pull a plug.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
So let me ask you this question. And you know
I like to be very honest.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I think it's important for you to understand that Academics
is texting while he's speaking to him, So I think
the good the better question is who is he texting?
Is he texting someone from Ovio? Is he being text
because people are watching the stream, I'm sure that someone
has been notified. Yo, that dude that talked about Drake

(01:01:30):
is on there with Academics right now. Because it happens
in real time. Like if you're up here speaking, man,
you can get a text and be like, yo, I'm
watching this right now. That ain't what happened, bro. And
it'll be a rapper or a manager or a producer
or publicist or someone close to that person. So I
wonder who he's texting right here. I think that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
Because the kills me because they think I'm like Drake
walking stick Like they're like, yo, he says anything to you,
he lies to you and me notoriously.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I don't really like even like one time I want
to take it to his couch. I don't even get it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
It's like, I don't really hold people to that because
also I do understand at that level there's so many
other people that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Are are requesting the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
I want to ask y' all this, Do y'all think
that academics all flip on Drake while we're listening to
them go through this At any point in the next
twelve months where you see academics change his tune towards
Drake and start to do what we see almost everyone
doing the Drake. The people that has been championing Drake
for the last ten years are now turning their back

(01:02:41):
and say, Yo, this dude's a Karen. Yo, he ain't
part of the coach and Yo, we don't do that, Yo, Bro,
you walk funny, won't walk like that? Are you chew
like Nigga? We won't even be chewing like that. Oh
you use spoons, Nigga, We don't, Nigga, we don't eat
with spoons in the culture anything Drake do yo yo, Nigga,
you got eyebrow had Nigga, We don't do that in
the coach Nigga, you still wining what We don't even

(01:03:06):
do that in the coach. You ain't want to us.
So he's dealing with that. Do you think that Academics
in the next twelve months, Because I think that some
of the resentment is there, But Academics has been in
the industry enough to try to pat it off any successful.
So he got almost probably whatever he wants oute of
the game. But he can't make me, the dude that's

(01:03:26):
in this game. He can't make me believe that he
don't identify an issue with Drake continuously going on different streams,
continuously doing different things, and not coming to speak with Academics.
But if I'm Drake, as I continue to say, I
understand why he doesn't lean all the way in because

(01:03:48):
we're looking at the same guy, Academics that is literally
on stream right now with a guy who's trying to
expose Drake when Drake is sitting at home. How does
he really feel about academics? We don't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Dealing with a million people, I know how show days are.
Do you feel like any of this might be entitlement
on your bath?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Bro? What I'm saying to you is any time I
ever asked for something on the opposite and they things
always got it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I didn't ask for shit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Me asking you as my homeboy, yo, let me know
what you think it is is not be asking you
for shit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I didn't ask you to post it. I didn't ask
you to like it. I didn't nothing and honestly loose.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
It's not like I barely have a relationship with you now,
but you called me if I sent you a message
and said, yo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Bro, let me know what you think it is? This,
that and the third I'm not I'm not. I didn't
wild out on him because he didn't respond about that.
I asked him why he unfollowed me, and I gave somewhat.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Of a preface as to what I was thinking when
I when I wrote the message. That's why he responded
the way he responded, the way I took his response,
and I give you my personal take, yo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Bro, Where I come from Baltimore, Maryland.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
You don't call nobody no rat without no paperwork, first
of all, And if you listen to Drink in the
Heart part six ten ninety, Jake would have tore all
the walls down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
And if that's the case, I don't know if it's
a testament of jumping off the porch late or all
respect to him, never jumping off the porch at all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
I don't even know if.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
They have porches where they come from. All respect still,
I know they come from certain places and then and there,
but me studying the pot I don't know if a
porch was ever involved. That's said, don't throw that. You
don't throw that rat word around.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Bro. You don't play with that word. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Let me read his response. Are you talking about this response?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Black? Black?

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Black?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Before you even go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
He keep calling him flag, He keep calling him flag man. No,
we're glazing to that. We are sure, we're glazing to night.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Say something?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Ship, I'm on that shit?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Oh wow? All right? And ship my man. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I apologize. I most respect.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
So if you say I don't have all the details, fam.
You don't call nobody a right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Check this out, man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
That boy keep saying Vlad. That's how much man, Listen,
that's he don't know who act is for real. He knowing,
but he don't really know him because you wouldn't get
that boy name wrong seven eight nine times. Literally every
time you got to say his name, you say it wrong.
So if I'm Drake and I'm sitting at home, I'm like,
why you got this nigga on your stream? The nigga

(01:06:31):
don't even he ain't even knowing your name. Player. He
on that calling you Flaed, like what the fuck is
going on? If I'm Drake, I'm looking at it like that.
That's why he can't lean out the way in. What
I question is those who have people in media who
ride with him one hundred percent and they don't lean
into that. But he's his act is unpredictable.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
Are you talking about Are you talking about the message
you posted where he supposedly said you're asking me to
post a tape about you ratting on people? Ge I
just don't really come from a family or a friend
group or a city where that's acceptable. I live by
a code that's become law. We all got to deal
with our own ship off of here and not telling

(01:07:17):
you to to be on some super gangster ship or
tell you what to do. O.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Is there another one?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
The next one? The next one? He says, I don't
have all the details, So I.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Mean, I don't know all the details, Fan, I'm just
showing you an outside perception. I think there's better ways
about going about it than he makes the him and
Nike you know him in universal compared to Nike lebron thing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
And then he says, your ship is personal. It involves violence.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
And I do and and and and and and and
the difference is your personal.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
You're the one that's upset that they tap the other
guys show and gave him the same pack.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
You remember when Kanye kept screaming, Yo, Drake got the
same drinking bad Bunny got the same package. It was
the same package they removed from me and charged them up.
All he's mad about.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
And I say this with love and respect, and I
honestly speak from a place of subjectivity as I say this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
It just looked like they pulled the pack from him
and charged Kendrick up. And he don't like the way
it went.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Down, and much like how Kanye went quote unquote spirally,
he went quote unquote spirally, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Found no defamation, lawsuit, petition, whatever the case is. In
the middle of a war on words, come on, hold on,
and you don't say and you don't call nobody or rap.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I do think Drake was. It doesn't feel like Drake
was prepared to and I mean have a long term
plan because you have to remember that he's not going
to be able to put out music, you know. I
don't know if people thought him dropping that freestyle out
of a camera was him trying to bring back a
nostalgic feel. What's happening is Drake can has no channels

(01:08:58):
to release music. That's the only way he can put
something out. And then that still is gonna get took down.
He's in the middle of litigation with his label, and
so I'm not sure if he thought that all the
way out, because you left the game on a on
a low note, right, and so if they now block
you from being able to redeem yourself in any way,
I don't know if they do that because they need

(01:09:20):
him to, you know, pay the bills right without draking
the market. I mean the catalog still eats, but I
know he wants to drop the P and B Rock.
I'm sorry, R I P P and B the what's
his name? Y'all put his name in the comments? That
just that blank my mind. I just said P and

(01:09:42):
B Rock. But anyway, he has a joint joint project
with them that he wants to drop. The he's from Kindada.
I like him too. That's why I'm sorry about this man.
His name is literally slipping my mind. But I just
don't don't know, you know, if Drake thought this out
in a way that's going to be effective for his brand. Yeah,

(01:10:07):
P and B, P and D.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Also say, I don't have all the details.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
And that's right, party next door there go salute.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Y'all stepped the gunner. Y'all heard what y'all heard.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
Let me just interject here and I will say this,
and and by the way, if you're wondering why.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
I went to him to ask if this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Was true, is you should have I respected.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
The reason why I asked him is that, like, I
have a lot to say if this is his reasoning
right where he's criticizing Universal, I have a lot to
say if that's what he actually feels because it's you know,
as much as I'm one of the biggest fans of his,

(01:10:54):
I don't think you could just I just don't think
you could get at them for or doing something that
they've probably done in your favorite books.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
So that was my point, Bro, that was my point.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
So let's move Let's move forward with under the Let's
move forward under the context.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I've seen a huge effect. You can go watch it
on this channel. That ain't what this is fun. Your
own respect you, you can move around in.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
You because at any point at this conversation, if you
want to send flight information, I will be where you
are and I can prove it to you that I'm
not lying to you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Know how these phones you know, you know you come on, clockwork, textbook,
come on, bro received.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Well, well, if you block you, how could you prove it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
When I when I show you the date, the time,
every single message he was sending back and forth, I
was screenshotting and send it to my best friend because
at the time I'm in bed, laying next to my
girl and my my.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
And my nine month old daughter, thinking of myself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
I'm going back and forth with the biggest artists in
the world right now, who happened on somebody who I
considered to be a mentor, and he actually gave me
his reason to ask the why he went back at Universal.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
The way that he did it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Okay. So so I also have to ask you this
screen recording the entire time, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
And I have to ask you this because listen, me
and Drake had shared many conversations me personally, especially when
if we're talking about personal things, and it seems that
you and Drake were closer than me and him have
ever been, honestly right, I don't record a shit, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Like, that's not so you call me a rat, my nigga,
you call me a rat. Okay, I'm from Baltimore, Nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
I don't come from like a place where you just
carry it. You see, fat you call somebody, you call
somebody a rat in this industry.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
So you called you a rent. So you start recording
this conversation you started, He called you a rent, So
now I'm gonna start recording your conversation. Is crazy for
people just joining This is the guy who is trying

(01:13:08):
to expose Drake for DM and him. Also the guy
that got beat up by Stefan Diggs Brothers. He's a
legend a lot of different stuff. You have to catch
the replay station with the name.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Come on, bro, your kids got to carry that. You
don't play with my name like that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
All respect the goat, Bro, Just be accurate with what
you said. You don't put the word rat with I
don't have all the details. Anybody on this stream right
now that ever been through anything real will stat what
I'm telling you. You don't use the word rat loosely.
That's not where we come from. That was my issue,
That's my only problem. Don't call me no motherfucking don't

(01:13:45):
don't call me no rat. And then the fact that
you said I was lying about some shit that you said.
That rubbed me wrong because it made me put skepticism
on everything you ever said.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
And I love you, bro. My heart was broken when
I heard the reference Orry track on on Mob to Us.
I thought you was really pissed off. But I still
credit him with the fact that he came back at
the very end of the song getting shook. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah, you get the elements of the point. Great this,
that and the third, But I got to tell you
the truth homes like I just told you rat and
lack of details, don't align.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
You got to be able to read that. Anybody will
tell you that, bro, I don't know if you come
from it, anybody to you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
All right, okay, so let me ask you this question, right,
I think you reasonably are going through a lot of shit,
and you You've given me a lot of information that
I could understand if I'm putting myself in your shoes,
how you could feel like, Yo, ABC and D, this
is going maybe not the way you would like it.

(01:14:44):
And you're trying to use whatever leverage or whatever resources
you can to try to, you know, do what you
gotta do.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Once you hear the word rat, you automatically start thinking
from every angle, who's trying to take me out?

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Hold on? But but don't you I should go through
the same though, and I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
That's that's that's That's why I wrote to him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Continue to read the messages, my good brother. That's why
I wrote to him. If anybody knows what I'm going through,
it's you. That's why I wrote to him exactly that,
and I was waiting for his response. I even told
him about a situation that I was in. I was
very vulnerable in that moment, Bro, Paul's pardon the left,
I'm saying to the goat, my.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Nigga, this when I'm going through homes you then you're
going to stream with aid and that and the third.
I gave you a matter of time. You act like
I don't exist. Cool this, that and the third.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
All fine, goodness that and the third. But you're playing
with my name and paranoia kicking. When you start dealing with.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
The word rat, Bro, you gotta think step An in Houston,
a boy in Houston, this person affiliated.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
This person for him to say he called me a rat.
So I started recording that rats are the ones they record.
You can't that that does not the math. Just don't math.
It don't add up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Affiliated.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
The only I can't afford ten million dollar security to
protect my back at all costs. I also know that
criminals don't do crime on the internet, so that's my buffer.
So the same way you was protected at certain instances
by just being able to speak up online, I'm gonna
do the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Same for me. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
I got kids, I got a real name, and at
the end of the day, I've been through real shit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
I'm from Baltimore, Maryland. I've been on federal probation before.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Why would I jump into a trick bag for some
niggas who I was just putting clothes on and letting
them look like me, and they was paying me to
do it. He get fruity and want to get get
in his bag and try to touch me in a
way that I don't like, and I stand up for
myself and then he put a hit on my life
and I lose all my motherfucking friends. And this guy's
supposed to look at me and call me a motherfucking rat.
That don't make sense. And it hit me back talking
about eye and got all the details.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
That's got fast bullshit now rungs you out of pocket.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
So I was reading your conversation and I've seen people
commented and they said, hey, bro, what you're doing currently
is messing up opportunities.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
And I'm pretty sure you eat.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
I was just about to say that. So what I
believe just triggered that is you couldnot be a stylist
in the industry and say niggas is paying me so
they can look like me. They just canceled. Anybody that
got any kind of ego, which all rappers have ego,
why would they come in and spend with you, knowing
that somewhere in the back of your head, you're thinking

(01:17:19):
that we want to look like you, not that you're
styling this artist so he can look the best he
can look. Oh yo, they paying me so they can
look like me. Like they just looking at his swag
or his style, his you know, aura, and they want
to be like him. That, in my opinion, was a
counterproductive statement from a stylist. You don't never ever go

(01:17:42):
in the trick bag like that. That was he put
hisself in the trick bag with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Who are these people that don't even have no motherfucker
They can't tell me about no motherfucker opportunity?

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yeah, I already covered that, right, already covered the fact
that he's on here saying that rat thish rat that
and he told on the people that jumped him. He's
asking Drake to post a video of niggas stomping him out.
He's recording conversations, right, So the rat title isn't too
far from that. You just got to get the police

(01:18:15):
involved at this point. You got all the paperwork, right,
But we already spoke about that, so I know people
watch this stuff on the replay, So I don't want
to rehash that and go back down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
No, you don't know who I'm connected to. You don't
know my abilities, you don't know my skill set. I'm
just getting a chance to be able to speak to
the quote unquote world at attention. How could you be
able to critique my life? You don't even know what
I've been through to be able to get to this
point where I'm speaking of academics in this very moment.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
So suck my mother.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Yeah, yeah, Yo, listen, without a doubt, Drake is watching this,
whether he's watching us now, we're watching some posts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
I let you go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
There's some current ass bullshit though, And you can't call
him motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Rat's my businessman.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I don't understand how he hanging his head on the
red that he ain't throwt this out. Man, He has
not thought this ship out.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Hold. Do you believe that there's a possibility of maybe
he sees me seize this and be like, oh no,
I get his side, all right, Maybe I did tweak
out because at this point I think a lot of
people looking like yo, you've put him out, like you're
speaking against him, You're what what did he say? That
was no, no, no, not the messages.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
But even now, even now you're basically saying, hey, you
you stitched by going against universal you Yo, I was
disappointed about reference tracks and everything I've.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Seen I've seen. I've seen the piece it up with
people who are set words.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Okay and that and ladies and gentlemen. That's the classic quote.
Watch how people treat you because you're training other people
how to treat you people. Watch how are you made
up with them? Niggas? They went all the way left?
Like I'm just point in you faun y'all ain't even
hanshit out for real, Like I think reconciliation is always

(01:20:06):
on the table with blood ain't being shed. But there's
a way to do these things when the embarrassment and
the criticism and the humiliation has been public. How the
fucking y'all just come back and then all of a sudden,
y'all piece it up and thank everybody again. I say
this with academics all the time. People think that, yo,

(01:20:26):
when they be for academics, they can go piece it
up with academics and that's gonna fix something. Well, what
really happens is is that even if academics is quiet,
there's other bloggers that say, that's how you get their attention.
That's why I never mention. That's why I never respond
to the guys that's chasing Cloud. It ain't many that's

(01:20:48):
gonna involve my name in the Shenanigans, but it's a
few that may involve my name looking forward an opportunity
to have a back and forth, and I'm gonna ignore it.
But what I will do was engaged my peers. I
engage the people that's in this this niche that I'm in,
and that's working in this environment that I'm in. These

(01:21:09):
are my peers. I'm speaking to my constituents, right, And
so you know, I think I look at it like that,
but you know, it's a weird situation at the end.
You can't you can't say these things and then think
that because he made up, Like for instance, Wayne and
bird Man when they made up, that's family, right, some

(01:21:31):
people expect them to make up. But there's other people
in the background saying that, Yo, if he can make
up with bird Man over fifty million dollars, nigga, he
better not be trying to treat me like that. And
all I did was such and such. It's other people
in his life that's taking that position every.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Time they using got it, every time they're using piece
that I be at my head inflator if I'm quoting
correctly something.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Along those lines. I love you, know what I mean.
I'm for a long time bro. For a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
He would always give me the greenlight to be able
to come to his birthday party, his birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Two days before mine. I would be able to go,
and that would be like my moment until my shit came,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
If my parents could have took me the ie hop
by the time the two days later came. Because I
had such a good time times, I woke up in
the back of overo security card cars not even.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Knowing where my wallet was, but I had so much
of a good time it didn't even matter to me.
At the end of the day. The reference is always there.
I'm forever grateful for the path that he sent.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Even when I think about it from the perspective of
me not being a writer, slash rapper, musician, singer, whatever
you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Even as I did see all of them names.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
In the writing credits, I don't know if he's just
taking care of the guys like I nat say he do.
But even regardless, I'm grateful for the fact that whatever
he did, I thought it was all him and it
forced me to be able to push my pen to
just be one guy. So I'm grateful in that regard
as well. In the same way Kanye can come out
of his mouth and say that if Drake broke my
raps my life to be a better place, I still
revere him in that regard.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
My only thing was the fact that you called me
a rat out of context. Bro, you can't play like that,
especially if you are affiliating yourself in certain worlds. That's
the same name that my kids got, just the same
name that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
My daughter got.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I'm Chris Blake Griffiths. My son, my little Blake Griffis.
My daughter is Blake A Leah Griffiths. I carry my
name with legacy homes. And when you attach rat to
it and then saying I am in on mother fucking details.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
That's sideways.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
This was a business relationship I had with these boys
that tried me, no different than if Universal decided to
play funny time and start digging into his closet and
taking a shovel to his past and trying to find
anything to just stir up controversy. It's no different, bro,
I'm not spiraling out of emotion. This is sheer calculation.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
Come on, go, So are you in fear of you know,
maybe any retaliation, Like obviously I would imagine the OVO
guys that they're not trying to kick it with you
at this point where there it's absolutely I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
I wouldn't say fear.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
I'm a Christian man, so I walked by faith and
not by sight. But I'm aware that they might have
some ruffle feathers with some of the things that I
have to say.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
And I also know that they are loyal to who
they are loyal to, and that's the same pedigree I
come from. And at this stage, I got to be
loyal to me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
Why are you not in y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Make sure to hit that like now, man, show him
what the hype about it did, like right now, share
that thing, man, we outside right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Ship.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
I will follow up with a question that Drake later
and be like Drake, listen, listen. I talked to the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
There's some things that sound convincing. He never denied, he
said no, people know that. No, no, no, he never
denied it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
He just said you were crashing out and you know
you're doing some cloud chasing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
I think he legitimately believed that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
But when you take the lens and you shift it
slightly differently, I think you could look at it from
a different perspective as well anything that I'm probably going
through if I put the mirror back at him. The
reason I reached out to him is because, out of
all people, I figured dog knew exactly what I had.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Going But if you know what I got going on,
why would you come emotionally dump your shit on me?
Knowing I'm going through all this I'm going through. This
is how selfish people are, man like or they just
look at you like superman. I go through it all
the time. It's like, yo, I know you got a
lot going on, but he go my problems? What you
think I should do? You know what I'm saying? That's

(01:25:22):
emotional extortion, man, Exactly what.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
The fuck I was working on.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
I'm trying to feed my motherfucking kids, bro, That's all
I'm doing. This is not associated with the fact that
I gotta feed my kids. But I did want to
hold my goat accountable at the same time, and you
can't call me no motherfucking rat without no motherfucking paperwork.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
That's too strong of a proclamation, bro. So it's true.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
A part of him, him supposedly saying that to you
was was you know, he said this whole thing, and
he says, yo, he says, I come from a family
and a friend group or a city where you know,
basically saying it's unacceptable and he lives by this code
of law.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
But it's not that I come from that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
But when he said he comes from that too, are
you not believing it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
No, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
It's not that I'm not believing him. I'm saying looking
at it wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Like for instance, right throughout this call, when I spoke
to you about Javonte Davis, I had certain conversation we had,
We touched on certain topics that could have been touching.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Do you think I tread it carefully and out of
respect to a certain degree.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Yeah, I would imagine, I would imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Right, And that's exactly what I did. Why because it's
GTD on my wrists, it's GTD.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
In my skin the same way as over all my skin.
But that GTD show.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Yeah, he know that, but that's not that's that's that's
that's not that's not the foc upon him. What I'm
trying to say is the people who I've actually built
my family. But I looked at GTT and Gavonta Davis
and them boys like family. We had decade and plus
we have a disagreements and things of that nature. Right
now we might never speak again. But what was built,
I guess you could compare it to kind of like
with uh and I hate to pull other names into it,

(01:27:01):
but kind of like you see Jimmy and his quarrels.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
That go on with Cam and things that that, and
that's like my real brother to a certain degree.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
It's not my actual blood, but blood wouldn't make us closer.
That's the relationship and the love that I got for
my brother. I just think he gets to a certain
point of self sabotage. But what I say is you'll
never hear me take it past a certain point and
discuss some of the things that have gone on and
my days spent in the GTD Empire, the Javat Tank
Davis Empire, because of the fact that that is my

(01:27:28):
family and we don't discuss certain things.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Jeez, niggas, I don't know about this. They're not even
streeting other facers.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
I compare him to gold mis sex.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
It be no different the ring I was charged to
Stephan and I actually got from homes that worked at
at Vogue, and he wanted to he wanted to charge
a certain amount of money per style, and day I
was doing a better job than him, So I just
took his rate and kept it going. And Stepan was
praying it that was a business relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Not no street shit. It turned to violence, And to that,
I say, it's the same thing that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
If Universal decided to play funny business behind closed doors
and put a shovel to his pass and start digging
up things and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Trying to draw narratives and this, that and the third
to have nothing to do with a business relationship. Stefanie
ain't no street dude.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
What is he talking about? Can like this nigga is
literally serving word salad man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
The dudes around him that he didn't even know, the
street dudes that I knew better than he knew.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Because I actually was doing quote unquote street shit with him.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
I can speak to it now because it's all our say,
but you'll never hear me take it past a certain
point because I survived all that, Bro, I'm just not
going back into a trick bag. So the same point
when he decided to quote unquote whistle blow on Universal,
I'm a quote unquote whistle blow on these batherfucking zestifides
that decided to take my life because like, hello, here,
I am fighting for my motherfucking life home and they

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drawing narratives preventing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Me from actually getting work done. That's a problem, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
And then when somebody who I consider to be a
friend is calling me a rat, and just so it
has to be happens to be one of the biggest
platforms both uh to the world.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
And behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Same way he said he know me and people know this. God,
is that in the third people have conversations. Same way
he could think I'm spiraling. This is probably because he
spoke to somebody that's like yo dog office rocker. It's
then a third or Javontine not around him, but it's
then a third something along those lines.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
God.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
Yeah, So when I looked at it and even me
thinking about I'm like, all right, I'm assuming everything's on
up and up.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
I'm like, if Drake was not trying.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
To own up to see this is what makes me
think Actor is on the phone with someone from Drake's camp,
because if you just listen to the last five minutes
of what I think his name is, Chris Blake, I
think that's his name. The gentleman on the phone was
just saying it was all about Stefan Diggs, it wasn't

(01:29:47):
even about Drake. But Act jumps back in and takes
it back to what we were talking about. Hey, yo,
let's get to this Drake thing because you like, you know,
people want to know about this. And plus I came
out to said that you were capping and people are
saying my credibility is shot on top of them already
saying that, yo, man, look how hard you going for Drake?

(01:30:08):
Like he ain't even coming on your stream and this
and that. So they're trying to put this mental mental
weight on academics and making flip. They're really just sitting
back waiting on them to flip, thinking that, yo, every
we're gonna keep pulling this shit on and showing you
like it's the same way they do with females when

(01:30:29):
they're in a relationship with a dude and they're like, girl,
you need to leave him. Kind of like how they
were doing Krishan Rock with blue Face or how they're
doing blue Face with Krishan Rock. Right, there's an audience
doing both. But there's a situation where people are trying
to get Academics to flip on him because they're saying, Yo,
he owed you more than he's given you. But people
need to understand Academics has made millions off of this shit. Literally.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
Maybe it's because while he was explaining something to you,
Lebron's name came up, and you know, I don't think
he wants to.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
You know, from a pr perspective, I could have yo.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Bro's someone in the comments say, imagine explaining yourself to academics.
You'll be surprised, young blood.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
So many different ways around that that that personally, I
would have navigated differently if I was if I would
have been his team, he could have looked at me
and said anything other than the fact that I lied.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Anything other than that would have worked for me.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
He could have said I was having a one on
one conversation with somebody who I deemed to be a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Be careful who you're trust in this industry. Anybody will
turn on you. No new friends, some ship like that.
You could have spent it from that regard as opposed
to saying a nigga lied that's kep.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
So many different different different approaches and Oliver in future
and all.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Of them boys are highly intellectual or on that side.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
So the fact that in Oliver unfollowed me immediately, I
mean like clockwork, I mean, I get.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
It again, He's just what is he saying? Is anybody
getting anything out of this?

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
He don't followed me. And you know what I used
to do for them niggas man, And it was just like, yo,
what is going on with this? And ag is just
sitting there like in La La Land.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
At the end of y'all gonna look up that song
that's safe House song by Margret and uh and and
and and Drake on a SoundCloud. It's not actually Drake,
but it's Margret. It's a running video on YouTube. If
anybody want to just do the homework, you'll see it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Hey, Drake Rocks and.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Hey, by the way, do you think that you know?
I mean you had one of your captions that basically
say not like us. Some people might be like, wow,
that that seems very disloyal, Like you know, as soon
as you getting the problem with him, you're now claiming
you know his biggest ops song, that's this in it?

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Bro Listen to me. He called me a rat, a rat.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
I've seen him piece of up with people who have
done a lot worse. Let's you want to you want
to pull.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Every manuscript of Kanye balls or Kanye interviews where.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
He spoke a little Boy, whether it be with Justin
Little Boy, whether it be with Nori, whether it be
with I'm probably as well versed in Drake as Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Like I was in school on Sundays and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Reading Hold On Running Back.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Whether it be with Nori, whether it be with I'm
probably as well versed in Drake as Drake.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
When I bus, oh, Babo, you going to bed, he
just said, I'm more well versed in Drake than Drake.
We are sure we're glazing to night. What's up? Say something?

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Like I was in school on Sundays and I'm reading
the Bible and I'm also reading The Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
Come on, bro, we come from this.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
You was probably raised on the same way I was
raised on this while I fight as hard for him
as as a possibly good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
That's why, even in these moments, will you call me
a parent?

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Will you call me around? I'mna still regard you as
the goat. I think you are the goat artists of
all time. But calling me a round is out of bound.
Cliver jumped immediately to the side.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
YO, get this nigga out of here. Not nigga, but yeah,
this my forgot out here. I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
I don't again. I want to give y'all some opportunity
in the comments in closing this one, and we'll be
back on in by thirty forty minutes. You know, we
got one or two more these we're gonna do for today,
So y'all hang tight. If y'all want to be involved
with the next conversation, we'll we'll be going live. I'm
looking at some comments super chests will put on the screen,

(01:34:43):
comments that's interesting they'll feel to me, and we'll read
some of those and try to get y'all opinion, see
what the fans are and supporters are thinking about, not
only this, but whatever's on your mind surrounding this scenario. Yeah,
you know, this gentleman has issues in the industry. I

(01:35:05):
think he's going to be facing the uphill battle because
not only does he have issues with people who you know,
have fan bases and have a network of people that
trust them, he's also just made a decision to come
out and say that the people that hired him to
do stylist work were just trying to look like he looks,

(01:35:29):
trying to look like him. So I think he made
a grave mistake by doing that for sure. Yeah, like
they're saying that, you know, picture you explaining yourself to acting.
I said that you'll be surprised, and you definitely will
be surprised. Man like these gentlemen will ben over backwards

(01:35:52):
to try to keep their perception in a good place,
especially the record labels, because it's all business with them.
They don't care how you make that artist look. They
care more about the relationship with the platform the media
than they do their own artists. And there's only a
couple of people that sit on the outside of that.

(01:36:18):
All right, I want to thank all of y'all. Shout
out the Patreon, shout out to all my supporters. Again,
if you don't listen to It's Up There podcast, go
listen to the audio anywhere you find podcasts that we
got exclusive one on ones over there with me where
I just speak to the audience and I really give game.
And then also on Patreon, we got one on one

(01:36:38):
conversations where I break down topics and business. Y'all got
to always stay tapped in with the real man. It's
a it's foggy out there, so you gotta find a
way to get over here with the real ones, with
the thinkers, with the people that's trying to elevate, because
you know, we have fun over here too, like we
ain't over here no other shit. But I'll get with

(01:36:59):
y'all on the next one, man, Dick, you know what
I'm saying. So I see y'all about forty five minutes,
y'all stick around, and I see y'all in a minute
on God,

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