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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I can't stand down here with y'all, and I ain't
got nothing else to prove. I survived shot wreck, I
survived a ghetto, and you can't take that from me.
That's a trick that the inner City runs on. The
Inner City is like, prove you a gangster for what?
And I really come from nothing. I really come from
the ghetto. I really come from nothing. It's documented.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Ain't nobody, never had none in my family, and I
done got rich.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
What else I got to prove? What the else I
got to prove? You want me to defend the fact that.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I come up slinging in for what, I come up
putting belt to ask for what?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
And I have made it out the ghetto. That's up
the highest reward from God. I gotta honor what God
done for me. I got to honor the pathway that
been lit for me. And I gotta act this, Harriet Tugman,
I gotta show the underground railroad to get out the

(01:03):
burning city. Because sometimes when you barre everybody cross, you
would roll your opportunities.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You put a Rosi in on your opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
You could have saved your family, but you wouldn't leave
your neighborhood you could have saved the block, but you
wouldn't leave the block. The goal is to beat the game,
not standing relish the fact that I'm still in the game,
which one of you dumb been preaching that you know
that ain't in my ministry. That ain't in my fucking

(01:36):
ministry to be running around talking about what we've done
in the ghetto and defending the fact that we sold
drugs and beat the block dying.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Sometimes the proof is in the pudding.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Taste of pudding, eat the cake, and a may you
looking at proof?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Me you talking about the problem is we spend too
much time.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Holding on to what we were, her hold on to
what we had. And I get it, because coach is
in what you had. Sometimes you don't want to let
go of what you had because it reminds you of
who you are.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
But I think we need to spend less time on reminding.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Ourselves who we were and what we are and what
we're trying to be is what we need to focus on.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
And if you ain't talking no dough, than I ain't interrest. Look,
they say this guy's the limit. I'm going farther than that.
She get blowing on my phone, So I called her mama,
Come and get your daughter back. They want a little
better than get them boys.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Wag or what bab little one?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
And I bush your brain but get a hard hat.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
They say, this guy's a limb, I'm going fall. Or
you can try to but can't kill ummy bad or
I just bought a nigga life as in did decide?

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Come with that order you.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Leave the reason you broke. You don't know how to
horse try it ain't normal.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Stress on the red rud red dye and he Black
one twelve come out. You know I'm looking to the
as for good because he never felt want to stick
on to.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
The wilders and nail gun ride.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
With my dogs on a nail. Welcome to us, up
that podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I am your active and attractive host big Loan for
another episode of your favorite podcasts favorite podcast. One thing
I know for show. I know they miss me solo.
W's in the chat, W's in the shot. I know
they miss me solo, And I'm back and I ain't
gonna lie to you for the rest of the year.
I'm every week on y'all, maybe twice or three times

(03:30):
a week, because I really want to dedicate some time
to stay in here.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And get with y'all.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
One thing I know about when I'm in here, I'm
able to dance and battle. And because see, conversation is
Conversation is a sweet science.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
It's just like shooting the ball.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's just like riding a bike, right, And the more
you do it, the better you are at it. I
remember times, man that I don't even remember times Sometimes
I can get in here and I can get to
going and it'll just be so potent, doll get to
be so so polton. I can't even tell you where
I drawed it from. For those of y'all who looking
for the rest of the catalog, it's only on Patreon

(04:07):
dot com. One hundred and nineteen episodes of Solo Podcast.
Before I've done a little baby interviewer, did any interviews
with anyone. That's when I was really harnessing my skills
and putting myself in a situation where I can get
on this mic dolo by myself and hold an audience.
And I know so many people really and truly missed

(04:29):
that from me, because every time i'm mouth people really
come to me about that, Like Loan, we miss you,
Solo Bro.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
We want to hear from you. Solo.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
We love the interviews, and I can tell by the numbers,
the shares, the comments, the interviews gonna always go up.
But there's a level of people, there's a category, a
sub section of people who want to see me by
myself and hear what my thoughts are on current topics
and some of the game, some of the shit that's
out there that we can put a little game next to. Right,

(04:57):
So I'm gonna continue to do that. Man, Let's do
a little house keeping. If you're not on Patreon, come
there www dot patreon dot com. It's up there. Podcast.
We are starting to do a call in show on Thursdays.
I think I'm gonna choose Thursdays. It'll be one day
a week. We're gonna do a call in show or
people call in and give us current topics, so we
just debate topics. So we just talk about what's going

(05:20):
on in the world or going on in your life.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right, we tap in with the people.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
We're gonna do maybe an hour of that that'll be
exclusively behind the paywall as well. And so again, I
thank you guys so much for being just instrumental in
my life changing as I battle the industry and when
I say battle the industry, I never want that to
come off.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's like I'm.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
In some kind of situation where I can't handle what's
going on. What I will say is that I'm in
a situation where there's a lot of new information needed.
There's a lot of pathways that I don't know about
that it's yet to be discovered. Maybe there's a lot
of relationships and things that I'm not the best at
harvesting in the industry. I'll be completely transparent and honest

(06:07):
with you guys. There's a lot of fakes in the industry.
There's a lot of yo, give my number, dudes don't answer.
I don't know how to take that, because I really
come from a place where those kinds of things are
not even in the scenario. I'll just tell you, bra
don't even be giving my number out like that, or
I'll tell you something that you know ain't true. I
don't even got no phone, I don't even carry no

(06:29):
phone like but I'm not gonna give you my number,
and I'm not gonna answer that number for me.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Just little things like that.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I think you have to remove yourself from being emotionally
attached to those things. But here's a trick that I
noticed in particular with rappers. Right, I also believe no
one owes you nothing because I'm in a situation where
dudes think I should owe them or I should kick
back this or do this or do that.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
And that's not necessarily the case. But the second part.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Of that, and I want to spend a little bit
of time on that before we get into the topic, says,
while no one owes you nothing, that includes lies.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
See that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
A lot of these to get a little fame, get
a little money, and then they're hide behind man he
acting like an owe him some. Now, you don't owe
me nothing, not even the lies you telling me. You
see what I'm saying. You ain't got to tell me loan,
I'm gonna come on the platform, Loan, I'm gonna come
come do this. Loan, we gonna do that. You ain't
even got that. You don't owe me nothing. And that
includes the lies that you be peddling. So I'm not

(07:35):
familiar with the mask that well, I'm not. I haven't
incorporated the fun way of the shit that havel in
a repertoire. See, I haven't been that kind of entire
life I'd rather stay away from you. I'd rather tell you,
I'd rather patch you down, wave you off. But what

(07:57):
I ain't gonna do is promising some or say something
to it that I don't plan on standing by. That's
why you don't hit me. All go when you don't
hear me go back and forth with you. I want
to see me and see my energy. I want to
push up on the dollar sign and see what he
really he really talking about. But one thing I won't

(08:18):
do is make no false promises. So I ain't gonna
tell you when I see you, i'm gonna smack you.
And I see you and I don't and you don't
get smacked. I ain't gonna tell you I'm gonna pray
for you, and I ain't never thinking about praying for you.
I ain't gonna tell you I'm gonna help you, I'm
gonna uplift you, I'm gonna look out for.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
You you might need.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
And I don't mean that I stand by what I say, homie.
And in this culture, in this game in particular, what
the standing at the head nod can get you further,
or like a share of comment can get you further
to withhold it.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
But you gotta learn how to just say, oh man,
it's part of the game. They damned to turn you
into a sucker, because if you in this game and
you're taking these things the hard that exuot this game.
And this is for the people behind me.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
If you notice, I ain't never got into argument with
about what he ain't done for me. I ain't never
slick shot through, no thish and no what they ain't done.
But I take mental notes. I'll be like, oh, that
el kind of what kind of games they play?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
And if he lying.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
About that, what else do you lying about? What else
do you be lying about something that simple? Lie about
something that's simple? What else do you need to be
lying about?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
One thing? Got no homit. So I just want people
to know say this ain't no average. Two things can
be true.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Don't nobody owe you nothing, but not even the lives
that they run around.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Pelling when they in the casis.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
See when I'm in people face, I don't do no
whole bunch of trying to fit in and have this
low esteem because I always remember that authenticity is the.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Highest form of vibration.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm gonna stay authentically myself, regardless of who like it.
Regardless of who don't believe it, regardless of who don't
who don't get out with it. I'm already doing what
I'm doing. I'm already having what I'm having. So it
ain't no way. Nobody gonna interrupt or interfeel intercept.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
That ain't no way. But you don't owe nothing home,
and not even the lies you're telling them. So keep
them lies between you and your broad, you and your family.
You can lie to your kids, lie to all them.
Don't be running around the industry lying for me. That's
a violation to the highest extent. Because if you lying
about something so simple, what all you lying about? What

(10:48):
all you lying about? Love one?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
So clean your face, and if you wash your hands,
you can eat with king the It ain't no offense
you can't come back from.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Just make it right.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
It's a lot of in the ghetto, depending on a
lot of theseus running around line.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
When they pull up in the ghetto, this is who
is really for. This is what I'm really talking about.
A lot of you pull up in the ghetto and
because you around the killers. Now I'm gonna do that.
I'm gonna put you on the show. Matter of fact,
I'm gonna drop you the pill.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Later on, I'm gonna let you come through and see
what going on and meet this and do this. I
know you got your cold and line. I'm gonna be
with such and certain them God gonna come through. I'm
gonna let you.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
You don't got no plans on doing that while you
throwing hot air in this game. Somebody gotta help me
understand what benefit is that? Is that just for your
comfortability in the moment, I'm comfortable with at what ain't
comfortable when everybody uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm comfortable because I know one thing.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I ain't running around pelling lies to I ain't making
false promises. And sometimes people are not with you because
you don't do the false promise thing. They've been around
so many suckers and so many that's in the game
and having some kind of fame and money that they're
expecting you to come around and promise some shit too.

(12:03):
Like I remember hearing old stories and I don't know
if this is true or not about how Jay Prince
them would take things personal because these rapids get down
and Texas where the throng got and and make some
false promises to the old man. Now I'm gonna get
on the song and then leave and try not to
answer the phone and then be pushing.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Back up, Like, Bro, why you even do that? Like
what is that about?

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Like?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
What kind of sucker is that? That? Ain't no lollipop?
What kind of sucker is that?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
You understand what I'm saying, but you can't appear wounded.
You know, one of the fifty of laws or the
forty they laws of power is to pear to need nothing,
so you can't appear wounded. That's why you gotta be
in a position of power and talking about this shit.
They gotta know that if they never call, nothing never changes.

(12:54):
If they never answer the call, nothing never changes. If
they never takes back, nothing never changes.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
If they they.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Don't incorporate the infrastructure needed for you to move forward,
nothing never changes.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
One thing, you got it. Your hustle can't take that
from you. Love one can't nobody take if you a hustler.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Can't nobody take that from you. Cub that go from
the people that hate you the people that love you.
If they capture your confidence, that's the only way your
hustle go with your confidence. If they can get you
to stop believing in yourself one thing I want to
do is breathe life in the neck on the opposite

(13:36):
side of this sign to some of the people on
the come up and then they try to frame it
and they put a fence around it as it pertains
to the behavior and try to act like that you're
needy or you're asking for shit, And a lot of
times they volunteerize and I'm still trying to figure out

(13:58):
what that's about. But on the other side of it
that if you are who you say you are and
you're in a position, brother, you gotta keep going.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's the only way you can keep growing.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
So I don't want to get in their head about
what is happening, what did I do? Why do acting
like in and what's going on? Especially if the relationship
doesn't have enough equity for the conversation to behaved.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
You just got to keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
But don't nobody owe any one nothing, not even the
lives that they run around pending. I want to breathe
life into people who are out there hustling and trying
to make a way and let you know that on
the other side of your hustle is everything you ever wanted.
And there's a scenario where you get in this game.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
And.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's information based. The talent go out the window at
a certain point, like I ain't gonna lie. Just left
La and I interviewed Ge Herbo. This was Little Baby
was on the last show as it pertains to the
American leg of his Wham World tour, and so there

(15:06):
was a lot of rappers out there and I was
out there with Herbo. Me and Herbo had a great
conversation that's coming to us up there podcast soon.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And I'm particularly interested.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
In those guys that come out of Chicago, you know,
the herbals, The chief keeps the dirks, all of them right,
because I understand that coming out of Chicago isn't really
like coming out of any other city. That doesn't mean
that there isn't violence in any other city, but Chicago has.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
A certain.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Chicago has a certain stinch on it that I want
to talk about today. And coming off this interview with
Herbo Man and just looking him in his eyes and
feeling his demeanor and where he has came from, I
just I gested a lot from that because I know
being in a war zone isn't normal until it's normal.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's abnormal until it's normal.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
The shark don't know whether it's in the fish tank
or in the ocean, as long as you keep it
in water.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Didn't know how to survive. And so sometimes.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
When you in these scenarios where you come from these
states that's just riddled with violence, I'm so so intrigued
on how you shake that because I got things from
the ghetto, and residue from hustling, and residue from being
told on, and residue from being betrayed that I still
can't shake. I'm dealing with women now in my current

(16:44):
life that I have to tell them on the front end. Baby,
you gotta be patient with me. You gotta be patient
with me, love, because I done been through some things
that a normal man would have broke him down. It
would have broken, it would have broken in pieces, it
would have shattered it. And when you shatter something, it's

(17:07):
way way worse than just breaking it. Because you can
fix a break, you can fix a crack, you can
fix a hole, but when you shatter it, it breaks
it in pieces, it destroys it. And so my confidence
in certain aspects of human behavior has been, for lack

(17:28):
of a better term, shatter.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
And I try not to wear it on my sleeve.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
But when you get into my personal life and we
are intimate and we're around each other, I say, baby,
be patient with me.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
They done done a number on me.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
But I left that with my hustle, and I left
there with my mind intact. I might then lead that
with love, with an understanding of love. I might then
lead a ghettover with an understanding of a friendship. I
might not left the ghettover the understanding of nothing else.
But I left with my hustle, my mind intact, and
everything that the ghetto have taught me. I got the

(18:03):
tools you can use. Yeah, I got the tools you
can use. So I just asked that people who are
dealing with me on a level outside of this entertainment
or outside of right dealing with me intimately.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
And that just doesn't mean sex. That means if we.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Talk regularly, if you see me start to veer off
and get confused about some of the things I'm seeing, right,
you gotta be patient with me.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I've been through hell.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I got residue from the underworld, real life residue. That's
the reason why a lot of people see me by
myself and they wonder, man, dude, be Byselm.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
You know, I can't even help it. I can't even
help it.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'm in a situation where I can't even help the
fact that they've shut up my trust of people.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
But again, thank you guys, man. I think we got
so much we can talk about. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm only gonna do two or three topics because again,
I'm just I want to get back in the groove
of things, so you guys can just kind of be
in the flow with me. Of course, did it just
beat the verdict? I don't know how people are feeling
about that. If you haven't seen the doctor Umar Johnson
interview we just dropped. Make sure you go see that.
I see all the dialogue. Try to drop. He is
right after ours because he probably seen it getting so

(19:26):
much traction, right, I get to look at at things
like that. I really don't understand what's going on, but
you know, it's competition. It is what it is, so
we'll just keep it moving. But Diddy has beat the
RICO charges for people who are underwa did. He was
arrested and just went to trial. He had a number
of charges, six trafficking to engage in prostitution. He had

(19:49):
a RICO charge and a couple of other charges. The
charges that carried the most sufficient time were the RICO
and that charge was found not guilty by a.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Jury of its peers.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I always kind of felt like the end goal was
to seize the assets, take the houses, because if they
can say and prove that you were having these quote
unquote freakouts in those cribs and prostitutions in those cribs,
and you were running a rico enterprise and using these
cribs to kind of do some of that, they can

(20:25):
take those things and seize those assets. And I always
knew that I brought that up with doctor Umar well
before anyone in the general public started to have their conversation,
because number One, I've been in a situation where I've
had things seized from me by being involved in, you know,
a low level drug deal in which I was told

(20:46):
on and then you know, I had to sign over
some money and a couple of cars and things like that,
and so they seized the assets as part of the
guilty verdict. And I kind of understood that that RICO
hanging over him was a very very heavy charge and

(21:06):
it had some gravity attached to it. That basically would
have made his fortune and his life earnings disappear and
going to the hands of the federal government.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
And so I watched that with a close eye.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Have you noticed I haven't covered the ditty stuff a
lot because I never want to get in the way
of victims, and I never want to seem like I'm
victim shaming or I don't believe victims because we're in
a climbing right now where they can misrepresent some of
the things that you say. And I just I want
to play clean ball, you know what I'm saying. I
don't want to get down there in the mud and
the bush league and play those kind of games. And

(21:42):
so my heart still goes out to the victims. And
people have been involved with being a victim of domestic
violence or otherwise.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Right, we come from.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
A place where, if don't nobody know, I know firsthand
that relationships are hard. Love is much more harder than
people can imagine. I think the reward that comes from
love because humans need love, humans need companionship, and so
the reward average can outweigh the risk up until you

(22:17):
get to a certain level. And I think sometimes you'll
have black men that can feel like we're under attack,
and so you start to weigh the risk and reward
factor and you say, damn yeah, Like we may fall
in love and average and have a great time, but

(22:39):
any event you fall out of love with me, any
event that things go left, that can cost me everything.
And so sometimes we become apprehensive or have some arrested
development as it pertains to love and not really want
to engage in a high level relationship.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Or someone pours in you. Because also women get bitter
when they pulling the men and it don't work. Like
I've saw women spend ten years of their life with
a man and they hate him more than they could
have ever loved him when they was together. And it
ain't because anything changed about him. It's because it didn't
work out in her favor or his favor.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
And so the residue and the damage that relationships can
do can always keep you apprehensive. And I pray healing
over people who have been in bad relationships, who have
been betrayed by people who they once loved.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I know guys that have babies with individuals that want
to see them fail.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I could never want to see the mother of my
children fail, because that in turn hurts my kids. But
I do know that there are some women out there
that do want to see their baby fathers fail and
fall on his face and look dumb to the public.
And for me, that says a lot about your characteristics.
You put the man in a hard place because sometimes

(24:03):
sometimes the man wants to respond and he wants to
be just as vindictive as you. And then you look
at your kid and you say, I can't even do
it because in fifteen years, how does that look to
my son? How does that look to my daughter? What
does that mean to the relationship between my son and

(24:24):
his mother, my daughter and his mother? Right, it just
I don't know how to really put it. But does
a weird fascination that I see on the side of
some women that want to ruin the relationship between the
father and the son.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I just bro listen, my heart, my heart is. It
hardens my heart.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
It makes my heart black when I see a woman
go out of that way to try to ruin the
relationship between a man. And you know, it really really
does something to my spirit. And I wonder, and I
want to ask God, why doesn't he step in? Those
are the times like I rarely ask God anything I

(25:10):
rarely question God. I rarely put God back against the
ropes for lack of a better term, and ask him, God,
where are you when these.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Things are taking place?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Age when a man is put everything he has on
the line for the family and she want to.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ruin the family.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
If once this same woman help you create life, now
she's trying to destroy your life.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
God, where are you in these scenarios?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Why haven't you ripped the tongue of some of these
women or some of these men that are going out
of their way to slander instead of being a co
parent and trying to coexist.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
They want to destroy.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
They want to deploy hatred on a man that has
to look at their seed and just try to keep
smiling and act like that they're not bothered by those scenarios.
I pray for the men out that it's going through that.
I pray for the women out that it's going through that.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
One thing. I know.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
As it pertains to me, You know, I try to
keep myself out of harm's weight. I don't want to
ever alter the relationship between my kid and their parents.
See back in the eighties and even maybe the early
nineties and even now right there is a place where

(26:38):
some people are not in that kid's life, and there's
a place where some people deserve to be held accountable
for what they're not doing as it pertains to their child.
But to try to destroy someone that you once loved,
for me is just it is mind boggling. Never really truly, truly,

(27:01):
truly understanding. But that's a horse of a different color,
you know, that's a book of a different cover. So
we'll get to that at some other point. But I
do want to get back to Diddy a little bit.
Diddy as like I was saying, Diddy beat the rico charge.
I want to look at a little bit of this
interview with Jeene Dial as he talks about Diddy beating

(27:26):
the rico. Geen Dial, if you asked me, were instrumental
in how this entire rico started. And I want to
be clear, there's a lot of media in real time.
You see them flip.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
They were part of the beginning of this and at
the end of this now they're like, yeah, man, he
ought to be at man. Yeah nah.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
They were trying to hang a black man. And I'm
sitting back saying, yo, all of you need was helping
the investigation y'all were propping up people who were speaking
about this man's personal life, his sexual fantasies, things he
would do inside and outside of the bedroom. And all
of a sudden, now y'all support did it. This is

(28:07):
what I was speaking about, how fake the industry is.
And you can't even say nothing, you can't even act
like you see it. You just got to keep it
moving like yod fo here crazy for real. But I
want to look at a little bit of this gene
deal conversation. I have not seen it, so we're just
gonna see a little bit of what he said as
it pertains to this interview.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
And you people are here celebrating man, Yo. Check it out.
They are celebrating, but he's still.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Going to jail.

Speaker 8 (28:38):
You understand they celebrate yo, this Yo, I was thinking
about some stuff I said, Yo. They celebrating for a
psychotic narcissist, a social path, sex offender, abusing and degrading women,
beaten on them, brother and having them appease him. And

(29:02):
it's homosexual tendencies.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Now, one thing I want to point out really quick.
You know, you know we are the head out the tail,
you understand me. Were the people that kind of peep
the game. Now, pay attention to this dude. He's reading something. Now.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I don't know if someone has ridden him a monologue
to say when he gets on his platform, if he's
been instructed on how to frame these things or give
context setting what he's about to say. But if you're
speaking from the hard and you were this involved in it,
because this guy was involved in it, and I got
Gene Deal number, I was gonna put gen Deal on

(29:42):
the platform. Then I told myself, no disrespect to Gene Deal.
I was gonna put him on the platform. And I
told myself, yo, what I look like bringing that dude
on the platform to speak about Diddy being some kind
of sexual DV. I just I don't want to be
a part of telling nobody down.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Holding people accountable is one thing, and I think the
court process had as he had his day in court
and they found what they found, which he was guilty
on two charges. But I had several opportunities to fly
Gene Deal down, get him on the show and speaking.
Now I might actually speak to him and push back
on some of his finding some of the things he said,

(30:24):
because when I noticed when they go on some of
these platforms, and I believe that's kind of what makes
us unique in the market, is that when you come
on my platform and we have their relationship, I'm able
to push back and I'm able to have a real
dialogue about some of the demonstrations that you put out

(30:44):
to the public. And sometimes we come to find out
that there's a lot of dysfunction in your die try
in your dialect, you see. And with Gene dial you know,
my next question would have been to him out of
this would have been, now, what are you reading? Did

(31:04):
you write that? Did someone else write there?

Speaker 6 (31:06):
Like?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
That would have been the first thing I wanted to know,
because again, I'm just an organic, real person. I don't
take notes. I don't dance unless I like the music,
you understand. So I'm just one of those kind of guys.
And I think this Diddy trial showed me so much
as it pertains to how media works. And I'm in
the midst of it, and I didn't even eat off

(31:27):
of it. Trust me, A lot of people made a
lot of money off this Diddy thing, same way with
young thugs. And this is what I say about those
guys in entertainment or going through some of the harsh
darknesses that they have walked through. They are to throw
a bone, or they are to give an allie oop,
or they are to center thank you or head now

(31:49):
to some of the guys who are out here trying
to comb through the bullshit and not just position narratives
to get the views and eat and.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Eat and eat right, because that's so.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Many times where Yo, you do an interview with Jean
Deal and you got my kind of platform three hundred
four hundred, five hundred k easily easily, especially if I
don't push back and I kind of just let him talk.
The same with the young thug situation, like these dudes
go to jail, you bring people along from the opposite side,
let them task moundfut and say this and that you

(32:22):
can actually make a living like that, brother. And some
people have integrities so they won't do it. And I
happen to be one of those guys. But according but
looking at this Gene Deal situation, the first thing I
would have asked, was, Yo, is anybody writing this for you?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
What is that? What's going on? But in media, they
don't give a They just want the views.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
They just want to keep building the platform, right, They
don't care nothing about if you've been told what to say, if.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
You lying, if you're telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Because I also find an interest in that the Fearz
never brought gene dal along all of it, the hours
and hours of conversations and allegations that he's been able
to put down on interview after interview and after interview,
and the Fares didn't bring him in for one thing.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
But guess who will bring him right back? These platforms.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
They'll bring him right back even if the Fares don't
find him credible enough to put him on the stand
while they're trying to send a man to jail rightfully
or wrongfully. But they don't find him to be credible
enough to be on the stand. But guess what he's
credible enough to do, get on these platforms and get
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of yews. So

(33:37):
I may have a conversation with Jeane dial coming soon,
just because I want to push back on a little
bit of what he has put out there, and I
didn't want to do it in the midstter court.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
But pay attention.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
By letting random men, prostitutes, mal prostitutes, brother ejaculate, they
sexual juices on them so he can lick them off.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Is this what's.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
Happening in the hood now?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Is that's what's good in the hood? Tell me?

Speaker 8 (34:07):
Is that what's happening in the streets, brother, is that's
what the industry that came down to. Now they celebrating them.
This is what this man is. I talked about his character, Broh.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
In court.

Speaker 8 (34:25):
We heard stuff that came up that none of us know.
They out here celebrating YO and talking about YO. What
gin't gonna do now? How Jean feel?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Now? Jean Good in the hood.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
I could go open up my refrigerator anytime I want to.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Jan' Good in the hood.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
No one is celebrating or defending Diddy and some of
the things that came out in court, even some of
the charges that he's found guilty on. I think what
people are celebrating, or not even much so celebrating.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I think what.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
People are intrigued with and somewhat happy about, is that
the fact that they didn't get to not only send
that man to jail for the rest of his life
for being quote unquote freaky, because even with what he
just said, there's a bunch of freaky shit that's going
on I don't co sign all that. Yeah, I don't
need all that. Yeah nah, I don't. Yeah nah, I don't.

(35:25):
I don't even want all that going on in my
bedroom or my bathroom. You hit me, Yeah nah, I
don't need no whole bunch of a baby or sitting
in hot water in my bathroom. So we ain't celebrating,
and people are not intrigued so much with that side
of it, but they blurred their lines. And there's also
a conversation out there where people are saying that they're

(35:47):
shaming victims by celebrating a quote unquote win number one did.
It still has to go to centicing, and I think
that process is gonna be a lot harder than what
people are considering because the fiss don't like to have
egg on their face and they don't like to lose.
But I do want to say this, what people are
intrigued with or paying attention to with this Diddy thing

(36:09):
is it's kind of twofold one. Is they hit him
with the rico charge and he was just one person.
So in the history of the RICO I'm not even
sure that it's been applied in that way. It's almost
like they misused the law in that particular situation. And

(36:30):
we also know the RICO to have a high percentage
or a high conviction rate in particular with the Fed.
So there's people who are paying attention and saying, yo,
they hit him with the RICO and it's the FIZ
and he didn't get found guilty on that, And so
your history plays into account. The Feds have this Mike

(36:51):
Tyson like knockout punch. When they get you, bro, it's gone.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
They got a ninety eight percent conviction.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Rate in this that right, and they play games, you know,
if people that's in jail with the nine twenty two
g and in certain situations in federal government, in federal
court where you say, boy, you supposed to beat that,
but you don't get a chance to beat it because
of the way the laws are ridden and applied. So
I believe that people are surprised that Diddy was able

(37:22):
to overthrow the charges that were.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Threw at him.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
It ain't that co signing that he had baby oil
and man juice and he wanted to do this and
that with casting. It ain't that people are saying that
people are saying, is yo, they came for that, dude.
It's like when you first saw sug Knight get into
a fight and some knocked sug Night out, or if
a knock Mike Tyson out in his prime, it's like,

(37:48):
oh shit, we ain't never expect what I saw the
whole industry give up on did it?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
The entire industry said he was done.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Now, this doesn't exonerate did it of being an asshole,
a domestic violence perpetrator, cause that don't do right by
his business. I can't say he do or he don't,
but I can say that are not guilty in court.
Doesn't exonerate some of the experiences that people have had
with Diddy. If you ask me, that's not what they're

(38:19):
a positioning this ass. What they're saying is, yo, Mike
Tyson and his prime came for dude and he knocked
him out. And so I think the people on the
other side of the conviction, the ones that were hoping
for maybe a guilty verdict on all charges, I think
he can come off and it has a bad taste.

(38:42):
It leaves a bad taste in their mouth when people
are saying, Wow, that dude beat the fizz, knowing that
all of his ass sets his fortune and his life
Earnest would have went with the federal government.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
The stakes were extremely high.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
The rush you get when you gambling and you're a
degenerate gambler, you like Aiden Ross and some of the
that a better five million in a day, yo, you
get a rush when the stakes are high. That what
people invested in this case from a level that I
couldn't even understand.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
And so the stakes were extremely high.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
People understood that the fifty million dollar house in la
was coming with the fizz, the fifty million dollar crib
in Miami was coming with the fez, the jet was
coming with the fez. Even did he understood that? That's
why he was trying to liquidate some of it before
they actually charged him. As he was getting closer to
selling those things, they moved in because they know, oh,

(39:42):
he trying to liquidate some of this shit that he
know gonna come with us. And then the question becomes,
it's the bad boy catalog coming with him? If they
would have convicted of Rico. So again, the stakes were
extremely high. I just don't want people to blur the line,
especially as it pertains to me. I'm not here sympathizing
with Diddy. I'm not here shaming victims. I'm here saying

(40:06):
the Fez came after that boy, and he beat the Fez,
and if you asked me, that was a tall task,
that was a hard sale. In particular, at the beginning
of this case, you saw people that worked for Diddy
gave up on him.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
You saw companies that he.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Gave a lifeline, started to speak about things that could
have helped the federal government put him away. But they
applied to Rico law, if you asked me, in a
way that just wasn't gonna be conducive to the charges
that they presented or the evidence they presented. And so
again I want to make that clear. I'm not saying

(40:47):
or I don't think for the most part, and I
can't speak for everyone, but I don't think people are
intrigued with the fact that Diddy is a freakazord and
got with these men and male process to that shit
don't go away. He still gotta have a conversation about
that when he gets out of there.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
That don't just go on the back burner. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
People are intrigued with that as much as they all
with every person I see the Fez get they get
a conviction, I ain't never saw nobody beat the Fiz.
The mob couldn't beat the Fizz. The mafia couldn't beat
the Fed, Yo, bru. Beating the Fez is a tall task.
Let's not act like it's almost like beating Michael Jordan
in his prime when they won seventy two games in

(41:31):
seventy three games, Like come on, when he went back
to back. Had Clyde drex let the Houston Rockets beat him,
then it would have been a conversation for Ages. This
man just beat them on the rico charge. In the rico,
you gotta also understand the law. The RICO is not
a law that you necessarily have to have a lot

(41:53):
of evidence. As it pertains to the Feds. To convict on,
you have to have predicate act. And if you ask
the federal government, it seems like they believe they presented
their case in a way where Yo, we presented four
to five predicate accent. All you need is too to
convict on the RICO. So them losing that case, in

(42:16):
particular with the RICO, I think is what was intriguing.
Not the fact that people are saying, oh man, we
co signing the fact that he liked me and do man,
I don't think that's the situation, at least from this side.
It ain't the situation. Let me be clean, let me
be loud about that. Pay attention.

Speaker 8 (42:35):
So which room is mister comes It's the fourth bedroom,
the master suite, down the hall on the second floor.
And you took the food there. How many times you
say you take the food there to.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Him a week?

Speaker 8 (42:47):
Well, if he's in the room all day, you understand
two or three times a day, or whenever he called
he wanted me to make him a cheeseburger with apple sauce,
whatever the case. So that's mister Cole's room. They could
establish that those guns came from mister Cole's room, and

(43:10):
under the federal law, because they was defaced, he was
a mandatory ten years. They didn't even.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Charge him with the guns.

Speaker 8 (43:20):
They had the guns in the description, but they did
not charge him with illegal possession.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Here's something else that you know.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I was just speaking about this man, and sometimes I
have a hard time. Sometimes I have a hard time understanding.
And that is, you know, for Cassie, for the Jane does,
for the people that were involved. I understand them being hurt,
them being affected by the verdict not going that way.

(43:58):
People that have been intimately involved and hurt by Diddy,
I completely understand them having some vindictive attitudes towards whatever
has taken place. But when we look at some of
these guys who are on the outside of it, this

(44:19):
is where I have a hard time. Like a gene deal,
you haven't been around Diddy for quite some time. I'm
trying to understand, and again, I may bring him on
the platform to have some of these conversations. Why you're
so passionate and wanting this man to be in jail
and held accountable. And I think the opposite of what

(44:41):
he is criticizing, as it pertains to yo, y'all gonna
celebrate the guy, I think he's doing the opposite of that.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Now.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
The behavior isn't celebratorial the same way that they are.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Quote unquote happy.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
In his eyes, it feels like he lands on the
other side of that, and he's upset that the verdict
didn't go his way. And so if that is the case,
I don't understand how he doesn't understand the emotional factors
that are in place with this, because you're clearly upset
that the guy didn't get found guilty. So the opposite

(45:21):
of that is people being happy that he was not
found guilty. And so you guys are two p's in
the same part, and I don't think that either one
of them are justified, because again I'm not saying be
happy or mad that Diddy is in that situation or
he got found guilty or not guilty. What I'm saying

(45:44):
is I believe a lot of the coaches just intrigue
with the fact that the Feds came and they were
unsuccessful with the rico. This may be one of ten
cases in all of history that is beating the rico son.
They made the rico because John Gotti kept on whooping
them with these regular charges and so that's a history

(46:05):
behind the charge. And I just think that it's important
that people distinguish the difference between what they're viewing.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
But it felt it feels like even with him, why
they didn't charge him with the guns. They could have
got him with the guns.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
It's like, yo, brother, why are you so invested in
this man being put away for the rest of his life.
You already made a lot of money off interviews. You
aired out everything you possibly could have known about them.
This is when it starts to feel vindictive. You ain't
seen a man in ten, eleven, fifteen years. This is

(46:43):
what scares me about being in this situation that I'm in.
It's like, Yo, some of these people ain't saw you
in a decade, and they still have.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Come out and being like Yo, mano man. He left
us on Cleveland. Man, that left us right there about
the the sit go like, damn home, we ain't seen
each other in fifteen years. Y'all still thinking about that.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Y'all really got some hatred in y'all hard towards and
you'd have made all this money from these interviews, and
you still pushing the line of.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
They could have got him like this, they should have
got him like that.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
And again, my heart goes out to Cassie, right even
though I do believe that Cassie is in a very
unique situation and we're gonna talk about that here in
just one second, and any of the victims and any victims,
my heart goes out to victims. But when the federal
government put the case in front of a jury of

(47:38):
his peers and they come back with a verdict that's
not in your favor, and you were not sexually assaulted
That's what starts to make me think, brother, where you
did did he ever like? Let's have a real comment.
Do you need to heal from was did he ever?

Speaker 10 (47:56):
Like?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Because it starts to feel like that some of these
people on the outside are doing more than just commentating
on the trial. And if you care that much about
people who you say that he is victimized, go take
care of the business.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
You a man, You doing no interviews, ain't hpping it.
Go take care of the business. And I ain't calling
for the Vinus in any kind of way, but I'm saying,
as a man, if you feel like somebody you love
has been sexually assaulted in the federal regard like, I
don't know how us.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
To handle it. You see what I'm saying. But it
starts to feel weird. And that's weird energy surrounding some
of these men. I even see ovon Vlad and salute
the Vlad. I have no issue with Lad, but I
see Vlad is interviewing five and six sex workers that

(48:51):
surrounding did it? And he keep asking about the Hey,
so what did he do with the nothing?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Did you? Where did you ejaculate that?

Speaker 1 (48:58):
And I'm saying, damn, family, I get one, I get two,
I get But damn we up to four and five
sex workers?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Men?

Speaker 1 (49:08):
You want to hear that much about We've heard the story, bro,
We done got two three people saying this is what
he doing. We know that what the boy owned, that
what he doing. He own some weird shit in there.
But I'm not sure what the motivation is to keep
bringing up more people and rehashing the same conversation. Yeah, no,

(49:30):
he said that too. No, he said the same thing. Yeah,
I'm gonna say the same thing. So what now what?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
You just got another up here saying the same thing.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I'm like, even with Vlad, if I have a conversation
with him, I really want to ask him about that.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yo, what is that about? Brother?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Help me understand what the motivation? Are you that intrigued
with the fact that it's already been solidified. They've already
validated that that's what he was doing some weird, freaking
dumb shit. Why do we need five different people say
the same thing? That's my question? Pay attention.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
But I know this for a fact. He ain't getting
no time, sir. He ain't getting no less than five years.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
He's gonna get.

Speaker 8 (50:21):
The mandatory minimum or he gonna get more. He's gonna
get the mandatory minimum, or he's gonna get more, point blank.
So all you people that're celebrating and want to know
how Jeene Deal feel, I'm all.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Right, we're gonna get off of Gene Deal. Let me
say this just in response to what he just said.
There is no mandatory minimum on the charges that Diddy
was convicted of.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
That's one two. There is a possibility that he gets times.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I do understand the argument that the Feds are gonna
fight him getting time served. I do want to be
clear about that for anyone that probably does have their
hopes up, and for Ditty, I think they need to
kind of center his expectations and give him some realistic
expectations that listen, we're gonna do our best, but the
government is gonna put up a fight. They have a

(51:22):
twenty year window to work with. Diddy doesn't have any
real criminal history that they can use against him to
boost some of the sentencing up. But I do believe
that they're gonna fight too for Nail to get as
much time as they.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Can from Diddy.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
I don't know how the law works if they can
retry him on something else if they can bring new charges.
But I am in a situation where I do believe
the federal government is not happy with the outcome of
this trial.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Diddy as a marked.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Man in the Fed's eyes, and I don't think they
take this land down like they fought against the Bell
when you look. Listen to the judge on the day
of the verdict, because I was on the plane coming
back from LA and I'm listening to the judge or
listening to people read what the judge is saying, and

(52:18):
at first it felt like he was leaning towards letting
Diddy out.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
He was like, you don't want to go.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Back to MDC, mister Combs, and did he like, no,
damn show don't so for him to even have that
conversation in that line of questioning, That's what I always
tell people that pay attention to the questions. The line
of questioning can kind of tell you what someone hard
and mind lies, and it's very important that you are

(52:43):
intuitive enough to pick up on some of the stuff
that they're putting down in particularly in that situation. I
felt this though, that he was leaning towards letting him
out on the bond if it was just him, but
then the FIZ came back with their documents and the
fact that he basically admitted to being a domestic abuser.
Part of his defense in the courtroom was, Yo, this

(53:05):
dude is an asshole. He's a violent man, but he's
not charged with being a violent man. They're charging him
with running a RICO conspirator that they're charging him with
racketeering and rico and some of these crimes that just
doesn't fit the bill. And so they kind of used
that to their advantage and they paid the price for
using that here on a bond hearing. But again, without that,

(53:30):
I'm not sure you can just come in the court
and act like Diddy was innocent.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
You know, with the video going around, with.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Certain things being said and testified to I think that
they used the fact that he was domestically abusive on
their side to kind of confuse the jury, right, saying, well, yeah, no,
he was someone that will be on drugs and he
would have these fights with these women and do some heinous,

(53:59):
very heinous things women. But at the same time, that's
not what he's being charged with. And so it doesn't
feel like they were saying he's completely innocent, and this
is a sham. It's like, Yo, he did some things,
but they're overreaching. And there's a reason for the overreaching here,
and it's because, you know, they want the fortune and
they want they want to seize his homes and hold

(54:21):
him liable financially. A lot of these people are coming
with civil suits, right, so they they kind of went
down that road, and I think some of the residue
that is left over from that defense played against Diddy
with trying to get a bond. The other thing I
want to speak about is where Cassie stands now that

(54:43):
Diddy has been found not guilty on Rico and also
some of the lawsuits, because in the event that he
was found guilty for Rico charges, it would have strengthened
every single civil lawsuit that they had in place. Basically
would have made it a slam dunk because he's been

(55:04):
held liable criminally, which the bar set much more higher
to deem someone guilty in a criminal trial than it
is in a civil trial. So the bar still loath
for a civil trial, but the fact that he's not
found guilty in the criminal trial kind of hurt a
lot of those civil accusations and civil suits that they

(55:24):
have in court on Diddy as we speak, and I
want to be clear about that. But here's the other
conundrum that I find interesting is that Wild Diddy never testified.
He never testified, so he never admitted to any of
these freak offs and sexcapades. He never admitted to any

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of that. But guess who did, Cassie. So while Cassie
was on the stand and meanting to I paid the guy,
and we did this, and I did that, and we
did all of these different things that we were doing
in the bedroom on these hotel nights or these frea
ca alls. It opens her up for the civil suits.

(56:09):
So now what do you see. You see some of
the former sex workers come out to now suit Cassie,
and it's gonna be extremely hard for her to get
around the testimony that she went on the stand and
said about Diddy to try to nail him to the cross. Now,
maybe the nails that nails her to the cross. Pay
attention to this first sex worker that has came out

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and filed a lawsuit against Cassie, and I expect a
Domino effec pay attention.

Speaker 11 (56:38):
So good morning, I am Dave, the man who has
just sued Cassandra Ventoa for damages involved in the Shawn
called sex traffic Control.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
And I'm looking through.

Speaker 11 (56:49):
Social media and I see a lot of the women
out there, particularly black women like myself, who choose to
victim shan't me and try to do everything they can
to discredit me, because the truth is that the loss
of the Shawn Colme's trial was a loss to the
Me too movement into hating women like the women who
are trying to insult me. So let me tell you something,
you women out there who would like to insult me.

(57:09):
This is my story. I was paid by Cassie Cassandra
Ventura for eight years to be her male provider. I
didn't have to be the best looking guy. I was
the best in bed. And because I was the best
in bed, guess what I was given this arrangement. I
was coerced, I was drugged. I was manipulated with promises
of money and gifts for over a period of eight

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years to continue to be this woman's provider at her
expense and at the expensive ditty. Now, at the time, legally,
I didn't know my rights as well as I do now.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I didn't create this conflict with Cassandra Ventoa. She created
it with me.

Speaker 11 (57:44):
She's the one who decided to bring up things that
happened over ten to fifteen years ago to hold Seancomb's
accountable for what was a partial truth. She's the person
who introduced me to the US Attorney's office. She's the
person who told the US Attorney's office about our relationship. So,
in essence, those out there who want to hate on me,
who want to say that I'm attacking Cassie, you should

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realize the truth that Cassandra Ventoa, your idol, did this
to herself. She exposed herself to liability when she got
on the stand and decided to mention me as the
male escort who was with her when she overdosed, and
did he made her have sex with him? That was
a lie, people, Cassie had just woke up from sleeping
eight hours. Myself and Shawncombs were exhausted. We wanted to

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go home. Cassie's the one who forced that sexual encounter. People,
she tells you that Shawn Colmes made her have sex
on her menstrual cycle. I can't speak for anyone else
but myself, but I know the one time that did
happen that Shawn Colmes was not responsible for that. Cassie,
and a drunken, intoxicated, hormonally in balanced state due to
her period, manipulated and forced herself on me during her

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mentru cycle. And what I mean by that is I
had no knowledge she was on her menstrual cycle because
the room was completely dark. She manipulated the room, she
manipulated the environment to get what she wanted, and then
she totally got like I was the one who should
have been grateful you're on your period. That's disgusting and
I deserved more respect than that as a man. If
I had laid down with a woman and forced myself

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on her, hand orgasm in her and she got up
and it was leaking out of her, guess what I
would have raped her. So by statute by case law definition,
Cassandra Vento is sexually assaulted me. I'm not looking to
destroy Cassie. I've given Cassie more than a year to
settle this before things got out of control. The problem
is that she's being supported by women like you who
would choose to attack male victims instead of accept the truth,

(59:33):
which is that a woman could have lied to get
revenge on the ex boyfriend who broke her heart and
hurt her. It happens people. They say, hell hath no
fury like a woman's scorn. And that's true. If you
hurt some women, they will do everything in their power.
If you hurt some men, they'll do everything in their
power to hurt you. But I want to end this
by saying this, Cassie did this to herself. They say,

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he who built, he who sets out on the course
of revenge, should dig two graves.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
People.

Speaker 11 (59:58):
Cassie dug the grave. That is clear in Howard herself.
Cassie got understand trying to destroy Diddy. She should have
took her twenty thirty million dollars and walked into the
sunset people. She should have never gotten understand and created
further liability for herself by telling more of the lie
that she created to get this man sent to prison
for his life. She made a mistake when she got

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understand people. She made a mistake when she got understand
and lied about the events with Clayton Howard. Clayton Howard
is a victim of Cassandra Ventura. Clayton Howard didn't ask
to be in a relationship with Cassandra Ventour while she
was sleeping with numerous men per week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I get it.

Speaker 11 (01:00:34):
You all think I was a nasty mail prostitute sleeping
with women, all different women all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
It actually didn't work like that.

Speaker 11 (01:00:40):
To have certain types of people that can pay you
that well, which you really have to do, is you
have to focus on people who are affluent, and affluent
people don't engage in activities like that. So I might
have had a client once a month. The truth is
I was only a male escort for two years. I
continued in the profession because Cassie and Diddy continue to
pay me well, and I was an ex Khan. I

(01:01:02):
needed money. Yes, I was trapped in the situation. I'll
admit that I didn't know what to do. But does
that mean I should be victim shamed because the same
thing that happened to women all the time happen to
me as a man.

Speaker 10 (01:01:12):
No.

Speaker 11 (01:01:13):
And for those women out there, for you black women
who choose to shame me as a black man for
telling my truth, you should be a shamed of yourself.
That's probably pretty much all I have to say. You
will not see me too much in the media. I
don't need the public to believe me. I just need
a jury of my peers and twelve people to believe
me in the court. And thanks to the testimony of
Cassie during the Child of Seawan Colmes, I have that.

(01:01:35):
Thank you for watching stop Victim Shaman's thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:01:39):
I almost puted, but let me stay focused.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I ain't even gonna lie to you. Dog, I ain't
gonna lie to you. I almost puted, but let me
stay focused.

Speaker 9 (01:01:52):
I almost peuwed, but let me stay focused.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Number one that this is what this is?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
What to me is what did he get these folks shit?

Speaker 10 (01:02:01):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Then nigga here got the white frosts, you know what
I mean? Like it's smoking back to back to back
to back. Just got up out the bed, like, bro,
come on, what y'all was in there doing this? That's
what be freaking nasty to me, Like slim y'all was
in there on some slimy shit home like y'all had
these kind of in there. Man, Come on, man, only

(01:02:24):
a man. I'm thinking they play us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
What they doing man? And shout out to the homeboy.
He finnah get paid. You know what I'm saying. He
definitely gonna get paid. And when I say shout out,
I mean I see what he's doing. Salute to what
you're doing. Cause again he's a victim as well. And
again I said, my heart goes out to all victims.
But I think I think that this is a cautionary

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tell because while did, he did not get on the
stand in the mid to basically any involvement. There is
hours and hours of testimony of ca being the one
that paid prostitutes, linked them up, called them when Diddy
wasn't there. It's going to be extremely hard for her
to keep that thirty million dollars. So now at the end,

(01:03:10):
there is a scenario or there is a world where
Cassie may be drained of her finances that she got
through this by other people like these sex workers who
were involved. Because if he wins, I imagine someone else
comes out, and another person comes out, and another person
comes out. Because Diddy still has a fighting chance in
court with some of the best lawyers in the world, Cassie,

(01:03:34):
if you're asking me, has no way to go around
what she testified to and the not guilty verdict lends
itself to Ditty's defense, and the testimony from Cassie lends
itself to her being not only involved, but a co
conspirator and it came out of her own mouth, so

(01:03:57):
you really there's no way to back track or backpedal
or to deny those things. And I think she's in
a very weird place as of now, and I know
she's confused because she gets understanding things like, Yo, I'm
getting on the stand, and I'm sure that with my testimony,
this is gonna help do what we expected to do,

(01:04:19):
which is convict him of the rico and the sex
trafficking charges. And unfortunately for her, it just did not
paying out that way. And I think I think it's
more surprising the pool of people that they were pulling from. Right,

(01:04:41):
the physical appearance of this gentleman with all of the
white shit around his mouth is like, yo, y'all was
in there letting then that better not kiss my girl.
If he kissed it my girl, I don't want to
know more. I don't even want to know more of it.
If he kissed my woman, I don't even want to
know more. He esthetically, I ain't rup I don't even

(01:05:01):
want her no more, really can't no order, it's my girl.
But in specific, man, come on, man, and he know
he said, man, I ain't got to be the best looking.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
I was in that throwing dick. You hear me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Yeah, I was in there throwing it and she wanted it,
you know what I'm saying. But I'm just wondering, what
did it? What y'all pulling from? Where y'all getting this
kind of shit at? Man, this shit is some weird
shit going on.

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Again, my heart goes out to all the victims. We're
gonna move on from this. This really wasn't even on
the docket. I really wanted to speak about Chicago, and
we're gonna get to Chicago right now. So before we
roll this clip from the news up in Chicago, I
just want to let you guys know what happened on
A mass shooting erupted outside of Artists Restaurant in Lounge

(01:05:47):
in Chicago River North, right after rapper Mellow Bucks was
holding her album release party for Hollywood at around eleven PM.
OR dark vehicle pulled up with multiple people inside, opening
fire into the crowd. Four people, two men twenty four
and twenty five and two women twenty six and twenty seven,

(01:06:07):
were killed, while fourteen others were injured, some critically injured.
Among these victims was Mellow Buck's boyfriend and a close friend.
Police recover both hand guns and rifle casings, with no
arrests yet they're calling it cowardly and possibly targeted. The
venue has since been shut down pending investigation. I want

(01:06:30):
to roll this clip from the news up in Chicago
before we get into some of the commentary, and I
send my hearts out to Chicago. We're going to have
a real, real deep conversation today about this. Pay attention.

Speaker 12 (01:06:42):
So we begin with breaking news out of Chicago's River
North neighborhood. That's where police say eighteen people were shot
in a deadly mass shooting overnight. NBC five Sondra Torres
is live for us at the Senior Chicago and Franklin. Sondra,
Hey there, Lisa.

Speaker 13 (01:06:58):
We have confirmed with Chicago police exactly what you just said.
Eighteen people shot, four people dead after this incident that
happened here outside of a restaurant lounge on Chicago Avenue.
And as I step out of the way, you can
see exactly where this is located, very close.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
To Franklin near the l stop.

Speaker 13 (01:07:15):
And right now all you can see all that's left
is the red carpet that was outside of the establishment
for a party that took place last night here for
a local female rapper. Now video shows a chaotic scene
moments after the shooting took place, with police on the
scene and people trying to get help for their friends

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and loved ones. Chicago Police confirmed that around eleven pm,
someone started shooting from a dark colored vehicle towards the
crowds that were outside again for this party that was
for rapper Mellow Bucks. She is a local rapper here
and she posteds on social media that her boyfriend and
a friend were shot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
We have confirmed with the.

Speaker 13 (01:07:56):
Mayor's Office of Community Safety that the rappers boyfriend and
best friend both passed away. Now here's how people in
the neighborhood near the scene reacted seeing victims in need
of help, a gunfire.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
And then and next thing you know, a whole bunch
of police officers driving by bass and the las Meyer.

Speaker 10 (01:08:16):
And Rescue traumatized.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
And let's just show.

Speaker 9 (01:08:23):
Now.

Speaker 13 (01:08:23):
Overnight, families have been gathering at local hospitals, including Northwestern,
where there's also a chaotic scene as family and friends
try to get more information about their loved ones. We
know that thirteen women were shot, five men were shot,
and as we said four have died from their injuries.
As you look out here live once again, you can

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see where this is directly next to the L stop
on Chicago Avenue. There are a number of surveillance cameras
outside of this that may have captured exactly what happened
around in lepid Clock last night. Of course, this is
all part of the investigation. We know from Chicago Police
that at this time they are still looking for the shooters.

(01:09:07):
Reporting live from the River North neighborhood, Sandra Torres, NBC five.

Speaker 12 (01:09:12):
News, Sandra, thank you so much for that update.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
So as you see on the screen, mellow Bucks boyfriend
was actually killed as well, and she speaks out after
her boyfriend was killed in that drive by shooting, and
this is what she said. She made a post with
a picture of her and him, and we was having

(01:09:36):
so much fun in our private little life.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Couldn't leave each other. Long glue to my hip. Every day.
It's not a night we ain't spend together. I'm so angry.
You was woke.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I had your hand until I couldn't you talk to
me clearly? I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Six hundred Breezy, who was just coming off of being shot.
His elf speaks out and says, y'all shot all of
them women in words and b words for real, get
out their car and get up on your target, innocent
women and kids. You get no points for that, you flats,

(01:10:18):
he said, But you in words ain't had no structure
of big homie. So y'all born goof is with no guidance,
ain't gonna die the same goof for you being your
entire life. And so you start to see the outpouring
of people basically speaking to man, why would y'all do
that to these young people. Here's another video.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
That's blood.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
That's blood, so you would notice that they would drop it.
They were dropping their location and different things like that,
which was very interesting. I don't want to play the

(01:11:09):
video the actual shooting, but here here's some of the aftermath,

(01:11:43):
very sad situation that I want to speak to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Gotta cut that out because it's a little too gruesome.
Here's a post for Mellow Bucks. Also, damn Shorty, my
mi dog, my brother. You know, Vante was two people.
I'm so lost. I can't believe I lost both of
y'all in one night. Best friend and boyfriend was tragically

(01:12:19):
killed in this in this situation, and I guess today,
you know, I want to have a conversation with Chicago,
not even just Chicago, with our entire culture.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
I haven't been in here in a while, so excuse
me if I fum all over my words, or if
I'm not as clear as I usually am. You know,
I'm a little rusty with being on the microphone, but
I was called on to speak as it pertains to
this scenario. Number One, my heart goes out to anyone

(01:12:56):
that lost their lives, the people that was affected, shot
and just harmed by this situation, the friends and families
of the people that even live in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
There is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
A stench on Chicago that you can't smell from the inside.
And somewhere along the lines, you know, we're all black,
we all come from the inner City, we all come
from the ghetto, you know, And we hear sometimes that, yo,
the hood is just the hood, no matter where you go.

(01:13:38):
And the more I hear that and I understand it,
and I've been all across this country, I'm starting to
think that Chicago is just a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
And I don't say that in a good way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
And also, we got this weird obsession or this weird
interaction that we have with death, with killing each other,
with standing on this bullshit business. You know, I send
prayers out to Chicago as a whole, because again I
just interview Herbo. I'm looking forward to speaking to a

(01:14:09):
lot of a lot more to people out of Chicago who.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Have made their way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
And trying to make that way because the mindset that
you must have to have to make it out of
Chicago if, in my opinion, it's a little different than
anywhere else, but you got to sharpen your sword. You
got to sharpen your sword man to shatter the norm. Right,
A lot of people don't understand, and some of us

(01:14:39):
don't understand, even black people, so I know Middle America,
even the police, the federal government, a lot of people
don't understand what it's like to be raised in the
war zone. And you gotta pay attention to the words
I'm using because I do this for a living, and
so I'm not saying that people don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Understand what it's like to be in a war zone. Right.
You'll have a soldier sent to Afghanistan.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
It's another thing to be born in Afghanistan in that
war zone and so you couldn't understand the atmosphere of
Chicago in particularly if you didn't grow up there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
You don't look at it with a pair of eyes
that can understand the atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
That's why I sit in my heart because I can
talk to him blue in the face. You can never
understand the intensity of living in a literal war zone.
It's like living in the ghetto and you're a second
class citizen in your own country. There's a dark energy
and a dark power in Chicago. And that's why you

(01:15:46):
will hear me reference the Dirk situation or reference some
of these scenarios while I'm saying, bro, salute the chief.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Keefy got out, Salute the herboy. He got out. It's
like an escape room. Put the jurors on you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
You ain't even asked for an We going forward around here,
that's all we got around here. We make it the
twenty one. That's a that's a that's a blessing. To
make it to twenty one. Let alone make it as
being a million. Now, let alone is making it out
to get on that be in the hills, living in
Calabasitia's done, move to La It's a tall enough task

(01:16:25):
just to make it the twenty one in the war zone,
twenty one years in Afghanistan, they call it shyrack and
they pat each other on the back for catching hats.
It's a very unfortunate circumstance and it's a recipe for
a disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
You expect to feel.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
That one to foreign territory, you know, you know, I
take an eighteen hour flight as a soldier, and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Then we we're in a war zone. Now fix your mind,
fix your fix your posture. We now in the war zone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
But there's a different scenario when you're in a war
zone and you celebrating the same war zone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Album release party in the war zone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Kids graduating in the war zone, got your first car
in the war zone. Mama lived in the war zone,
granted living the war zone. Cousin live in the war zone,
barbecues in the war zone, played football in the war zone.
You can never understand the intensity of having an intimate
threat at your home. And I get it every I

(01:17:36):
understand what that's like. But this, if you ask me,
this has took up a couple of notches. It feels like,
according to some of the reports, that someone either pulled
up or a switch or something. That's another thing of
why the switches are sold so and dangerous. You can
shoot twenty people in five seconds, like when Rob Foe

(01:18:00):
now in French Montana and them, they had that situation
down in Miami. Dude got a switch and j and
you just pull up and just plenty of people hit.
These real bullets coming out. They sound fast like on
some call to dude this shit, but these just real
bullets coming out and real people being affected. You can
hit eighteen innocent people. You can hit fourteen innocent people

(01:18:21):
in a matter of two seconds, five seconds, ten seconds,
fifteen seconds. This scenario is just a recipe for disaster.
And I send the pre Warriors.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Dog over Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
What I don't like, and someone gonna have to do
something to change it, And you know, I understand it's
a tall task, but I don't like that they've turned
culture into a killing. You know, they have turned the
culture in Chicago into killing. I can't respect that. Ain't
nobody bucking the police. And I ain't say bucking the police.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
I ain't. I'm not encouraging.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
People to do anything the law and for, but it
feels like that we want to play call of duty
with each other and not with nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
It don't feel like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
It's saying, man, they just passed the law that's gonna
take my mama foolstanns. Man, I'm going to handle that. Man,
they just passed the bill. Man, we won't even we
don't got no good books in the schools. Man, I'm
going to handle that. It's just on some rap shit
and on some beef shit towards each other. It's internal,

(01:19:30):
and trust me, man, any event that it becomes external,
the fars do something to stop it. I hear about
so many killings in Chicago that's just left unanswered, just
oh yeah, fourteen people were shot, but they've yet to
arrest anyone. It's like, if you know that level of

(01:19:55):
killing and drama is going on, then they gotta probably
up some of the standards. It pertains to how they investigating,
when they're investigating what they're investigating. Some of the technology
needs to be used, some money needs to be deployed
into the ghetto to try to intervene.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Some prevention for some of these things.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
And it feels like a town with no sheriff, feels
like a town with no big homits. And I don't
know how to speak the young that they coach is killing.
When we came up, our culture was getting money. We
wanted some money. I don't know how to really talk
to the young the coach is killing, homie. I could

(01:20:39):
just give them a little bit of game that I got,
but I don't know how to reach them.

Speaker 6 (01:20:42):
Average.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Coming up, culture was always philosophy, right, language, food.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
You share certain aspects.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
That indicates where you come from. When we talk about Chicago,
it's like get back is part of the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
This is why I said there was a very.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Sensitive subject that people were with King Vaughan in little
Dirt situation, because it's sensitive to tell him that they
turn that off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Dirt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Don't worry about that when it's in my culture. This
getback thing is in my coat, and I'm one of
the biggest ones. And again I'm not saying Dirt was
involved in anything. I'm speaking about the mindset and the
pressure and the gravity of coming from a place where
they've indoctrinated you with the get back, with the press game.

(01:21:39):
They would even say, yo, everyone, I say, he ain't
got no hat, shut up, you going to heaven. I
seen one of these thing going viral the other day
when they said going to heaven like it was a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Disc You ain't never done nothing, You going to heaven?
I said, God, leieve they don'et really confuse them, young kind.
Now they got them trapped in the closet. They got
him trapped in the closet going against each other too.
That's what really hurts your heart when it's like it
ain't about nothing. And I ain't saying that a death

(01:22:12):
can't cause a war. And I ain't saying you gotta
overlook death. I ain't saying that. But what I'm saying
is it be about some little shit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
But the mistake of making killing your culture is something
that is irreparable. I don't know how you come back
from that, because you pass it down to the next generation.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
This is what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
You pass down the way we dance, the way we talk,
the way we dress, the way the things we do,
the food we eat, this, the holidays we celebrate, like,
the philosophy, the books we read, write, the music we enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
You pass all of that down. That's the culture.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
But what do you do when they've now put salt
in the kool aid? They don't put salt in the
kool aid instead of sugar. So now you pass down
something that ruins the culture moving forward. This is why

(01:23:13):
I celebrate Jee Herbal Chief, keep little Dirk, some of
the people that's made it out and trying to make away.
It's because you gotta you gotta retrain your mind. It's like,
we in this, but we're not of this, and we're
gonna We're gonna take this to the next level. We're
gonna get out of this. We got to get out

(01:23:35):
of this. Some of these guys out of the head.
Not to tell they the big fish. They the big fish.
It's like being Mama Bell. It's like being pap Up Bell,
like the big gorilla. Oh you with my children, you know,
Oh you with.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
One of mine. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
He come beating his chest nah me, And it's like,
how do you ignore that when it's been your culture,
your entire life. I send my heart to them, folks, man,
I send my heart to them, folks. Lime And I
know what it's like sometimes that you don't want to leave.

(01:24:13):
When I was speaking to her Bo, he was talking
about how like even with him, he had a scenario
where you would look at things and be like, yo, nah,
I can come back to the hood, Like, nah, I
can pull up in the hood in my bentley. Y'all
ain't running me from over here. Like it's pride in

(01:24:33):
putting your life at risk instead of living your life.
It's pride in putting your life at risk. Tell me
any other species that intentionally put his life at risk.
There's no other species in the world that intentionally.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Will put his life at risk to prove some kind
of point.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
When you see a lion, or when you see some
of these things in the world that is fighting as
you usually for food. These have all the food, all
the resources, all the money, and go put their life
on the line just to prove a point that they
still got pride and ego. You fall victim to your ego.
You study long, you study wrong. I can also feel pain.

(01:25:17):
It's like, yo, I can't leave yet because I ain't
able to take everybody with me. But you gotta remember
you is in a burning building. You got to know
I can I got to just better. I got to
just take what I can get. I got to just
take what I can get. You got to just get
what mean the most to you and get the out

(01:25:37):
of there. Get what you can carry and get the
out of there shit. Maybe you can send movers and
resources to try to like the pathway for others to
get out. But some of the people who can lead
the way find themselves not leaving yet because they can't
take everybody with them. Say, when you in a burning house,
when you know the house on fire, you might got

(01:25:58):
to leave the PlayStation and the TV, and you got
to grab what's really necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Your children, your dog, the money.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
You understand, you got to grab a few things and
get the out of this burning building. And sometimes it's
pressure that I don't want to leave little brother in them.
But you can always send move us back. You can
always send resources back. Say yo, Homer, I gotta go.
I gotta light the way. I can't stand down here

(01:26:29):
with y'all. And I ain't got nothing else to prove.
I survived shot rack. I survived a ghetto, and you
can't take that from me. That's a trick that the
Inner City runs on. The Inner City is like prove
you a gangster for what? And I really come from nothing.
I really come from the ghetto. I really come from nothing.

(01:26:49):
It's documented. Ain't nobody never had nothing in my family,
and I done got rich. What else I got to
prove average what the else I got to prove? You
want me to defend the fact that I come up
slinging in for what. I come up putting belt to
ask for what, and I'd have made it out the ghetto.

(01:27:12):
That's up the highest reward from God. I gotta honor
what God done for me. I gotta honor the pathway
that been lit for me, and I gotta act as
Harriet Tuckman. I gotta show the underground railroad to get out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
To Burning City.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Because sometimes when you bury everybody cross, you would roll
your opportunities.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
You put a Rosi in on your opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
You could have saved your family, but you wouldn't leave
your neighborhood. You could have saved the block, but you
wouldn't leave the block. The goal is to beat the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Game, not standing relation the fact that I'm still in the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Game, which one of you dumb been preaching that that
ain't in my ministry.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
That ain't in my.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Fucking ministry to be running around talking about what we've
done in the ghetto and defending the fact that we
sold drugs and beat the block dowing. Sometimes the proof
is in the putting taste of pudding, eat the cake,
and a may you looking at proof you talking about

(01:28:24):
the problem is we spend too much time holding on
to what we were, hold on to what we had.
And I get it because coach is in what you had.
Sometimes you don't want to let go of what you
had because it reminds you of who you are.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
But I think we need.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
To spend less time on reminding ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Who we were and what we.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Are and what we're trying to be is what we
need to focus on. You got an opportunity to be
one hundred million dollars. Were talking about what I've done
in the ghetto. I'm running around pulling up trying to
push a line by some street ships in the war.
That's when I knew these content creator run around pushing piece.

(01:29:07):
You can't stop this kind of shit, you taking videos
and spending money on you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Content creators need the bull loot.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
This gonna take a voice, This gonna take God, this
is gonna take instruction and trying to get rich and
still peddling this street shit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Can't give, can't light the way for this kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
You gotta focus on who you becoming. The ghetto will
trick you into trying to defend who you were and
who and what you're done, and and and and how
you beat the game. The game was on hard coming
out of Chicago, coming out of any ghetto that they
don't put the game on difficult, the difficulty all the

(01:29:48):
way up, starting from zero and running up one hundred
of them starting from zero and running up a honey Bunnon.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
The difficult is on a thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
My mouth can't explain what your wire seating average.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Don't get caught.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Trying to put your life at risk to prove a
point to who ain't gonna ride. If something happened to you,
they gonna post RP, get whatever cloud left off your name,
and gonna keep it moving. You gotta be smarter than
the average bell. You gotta shatter your norm, break the tradition.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
I'm grabbing what can come with me, and I'm leaving
footprints into saying, follow the footprints, Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
If you ain't cerebral.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Enough to follow the footprints, I might send for you,
but I ain't coming to get you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
You hear me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
I might send for you, but I ain't coming to
get you, because me coming put too much at risk.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
I didn't cover too much ground. Rap music is part
to blame too, because the tradition in rap music, especially
if you come from one of these seas, it is
what they know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
You're drilling and you're killing, and you're standing on business
and you ain't letting none slide.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
See, they'll get you, get you caught up in the protocol.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
But the tradition and the protocol it works in rap
because it keeps you relatable. But sometimes you lose your
exclusivity being relatable to these. Don't let these trick you
out of your exclusivity.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
I made it from the ghetto. I'm from that. I'm
not of that. We in this were not of this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
We gonna get out of this and be Black excellence
and lead the way in the rawest form. You get
stuck in their routine and rob yourself of your exclusivity.
Young I stopped going to the hood and start going
to the bank. I start going to the bookstore. I
gotta be able to lead, not just follow. See, sometimes

(01:31:56):
all these suckers can do is follow. I all these
know how to do it. Follow somebody else, but some
of us are leaders. In order to lead, you gotta
go get some information. I got to leave. I got
to go get it. The thing about me is I
went and got it by myself. That's why I certainly
made me. Ain't no cap on, that, ain't no rubber

(01:32:20):
band around this money, you understand.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
I went and got it by myself. The information I
dedicated myself. I got with some reals in the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Game that lifted me up, but they wasn't gonna trick
me into being stuck in routine.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
I saw everybody feel going that way. I watched them.
I watched play with the street shit.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
And dominate the head lies as it pertains the street talk,
and every single one of them end up in jail,
and that outran every single one of them. I was
just watching them for nest and freedom, for this. That's
my guy, Jonathan, that's my boy. We done linked a
couple of times, been around each other. He know I'm
a real when he can vouch for that. There's a

(01:33:11):
mistake when we glorify the game that we post to
separate from.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
He called hisself rich.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
And unemployed while, according to the federal government, been playing
in the fraud shit, the COVID shit. Hed been playing
with that shit, and his background was that you ever
noticed that the name of my show is what it's up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
There, Parker. If you gotta go with what I present you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
As far as my business, you don't know what I've done,
if I've done anything in the street, you don't know
what I sold like Roloh called itself misster dog food.
All this kind of shit you playing. And I don't
mean no disrespect to nobody, but y'all playing. Y'all must
see that's the thing I'm saying. You must be kind
of slow like I'm saying, we gotta lead the way

(01:34:03):
dog and not get caught in the routine. We robbing
ourselves from the exclusivity putting the John Goddess on the
back of our name and putting the John Wicks on
our name. And now we really involved in shootings and shit.
You're playing slow out there. You're playing slow ball out there.
Homie the white boy that scaming his scheme and got

(01:34:27):
a suit on running the business, he'll never mention it.
You ain't gonna know he was involved too. He's arrested.
I beat the game. Why would I lead the people
to the game I beat for They can put two
and two together and make it full.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
But sometimes all these can't do is follow.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
That's all they good for because they have neutralized their
ability to be different from the pack.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
I don't even run with a pack. That's how you
know I'm different than most.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Don't nobody influence my protocol, don't nobody influence my constitution.
How I feel is how I feel. How I move
is based on the information. I don't got no emotional
ties to anything outside of my family, children, and it's moneyon.
I want to honey megi and I don't want to

(01:35:19):
tap dands for it. You understand that I want to
put the game down. I want to be one of
the first that put the game down and win and
get a honey mess.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Not kiss rappers, ass, not kiss white folks. Says do
business with everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
But I want to put the game down and get
a honey meg, the first of its kind, the proto type.
That's how you break the tradition and break the generational
curses that they passed down.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
They put salt in the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Kool aide, knowing it were supposed to be sugar, but
they may do with what they had. Sometimes all you
got is your reputation, and I get that, but you
gotta know when that is changed Oh, now I got
more than my reputation. I got my legacy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
I'm living for.

Speaker 11 (01:36:13):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Used to be me living for my reputation. Ask me
living for my legacy. These are two different things. They
can live in the same place and sometimes one fees
the other. But I bet not get coding. Reputation is
past tens. Reputation is past tense. Legacy is what I
do from here forward. It feeds my legacy. And when

(01:36:35):
all you have is the ability to follow people, you
rob yourself, young, hit me well, hear me out there, son,
hear me out there. Don't rob yourself your chances to
get away from the pack and be exclusive and make
something happen for the entire culture. Don't ever compromise your

(01:36:58):
exclusivity for compatible ability and put your dreams on a guarney.
Ain't no average one hundred of you can't pull up
on me. I don't give where you're from and what
you kicking.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
But if it's one Chicago or it's one from the ghetto,
I can go for that. Let's see if we can
plug it in and make something happen.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
When you show up and it's fout there, you young,
all watching the interview, the other day, a bunch of
them a mad song. Cain't nobody come in my studio
with a mad song. I don't give what they claim.
Don't show up to my studio no more?

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
And mad song? What you playing?

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Some kind of call of duty game may come up
out my studio? You follow us, And I'm looking for leaders.
I'm looking for stand up men that want to make
something happen for their children, live for their children. But
sometimes you get caught in it. I know it, And
so I ain't just so hard on the black boy
because I know he caught in some bullshit. The reputation

(01:37:56):
go further than anything up there. That jersey, that jersey
on his back, it means something up there. I get it,
I know it, I feel it. They're trigger I know it,
I feel it. But some of this shit sinceless game.
Some of this shit is bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Love one. This ain't everything.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
At some point, you gotta shut down what you was taught.
Every tool you use to survive, it's useless. When you
get where you're going, you gotta shut down your apparatus.
You couldn't imagine moving your entire life trying to survive
by way of violence, learning how to swim with the sharks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Only for one day you be pulled out the water.
You was never blonging in the water.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
You done spend your entire life learning to swim with
the sharks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
This is what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
But you get some money, you get some opportunity, they
gonna pull you out the water.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Now what you know how to survive on land?

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
You and how to survive what he's thinking people and
not be emotionally driven and not get tricked in the jumping.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Back in the water after you have made it out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
So while you even in the water, you gotta be
knowing one day I'm gonna get pulled out of this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
So I gotta get prepared.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
I gotta prepare myself to one day I'm gonna get
pulled out of this water.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
I ain't gonna spend all my life in this shit.
I know this.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
The universe said it'll be, so I ain't spending all
my life going to water with I'm gonna defend myself
and that's until the last day, that's until the last
shell gone.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
At this I'm gonna defend myself. But what I ain't
gonna do is get caught up in I'm gonna be
in this water my entire life.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Now I'm packing luggage. I'm packing luggage. You know, packing luggage, say,
I plan on get where I'm going. I'm reading books.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
I'm trying to figure way out because I'm knowing at
some point I'm jumping out this water. Somebody gonna send
a life rap. I'm getting out this water one day.
And that's what I was doing. I was reading, I
was learning.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
I was getting up there goddamn day listening to these
talk this high level game, because I knew one day
I'm leaving the streets. I'm packing luggage. I plan on
land in somewhere at some point. Average I ain't staying
in this shit all my life. I don't give a fool.

(01:40:19):
Couldn't figure it out. The people you respect couldn't figure
it out. You need some new leaders. The people you
respect stuck in the street. You need some new leaders.
Then respect them boys, understand them boys and soldiers, But
find you some new leaders. Man were looking for the
people made it out. When I was talking to her,
bow that what he was telling me about me, and

(01:40:40):
I felt it in his spirit. He looked at me, Mell,
and he say, man, he was a street dude.

Speaker 7 (01:40:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
He won the one Chief Keith won, the one. We
know them bade it out. They made us know it's
possible to get you some money on They the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Ones taught us pack some luggage. You gonna land one day.
You're gonna get up at this shit one day, and
that what loon here to do. And even when you
stuck in the missile, you gotta fight every voice, every
voice of doubt, every fucking negative thought.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
You gotta fight the devil's administration. I know what it's like.
I'm dealing with it now and then everage.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
I'm fighting the unanswered cause, the unanswer messages, the left
on red that follows unfollows, the unwonted silence. I'm fighting
it in the midst of them thinking they watching a
drowning man. Niggada already jumped out the water. I'm good,
I'm more than good. I'm overly good.

Speaker 14 (01:41:42):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Nah, it's the highest level. I'm talking about supreme game,
the highest level.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Of game Lord one.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
It just hurt me to know they think I'm drowning.
Then they trying not to man list not. That's what
hurt me even more. It's like, oh, they think I'm drowning.

Speaker 9 (01:42:00):
I got more.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Money, put up the band camp, got poking beans. Ain't
no drowning man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
I'm just looking for resources and help because I done
jumped out the water. I'm living on land. I spent
all my life underwater, swimming.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
With the shawl.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
I don't know the next move. Somebody helped me. That's
the game I'm playing now. But if nothing else, I
ain't jumping back in that water. If I get back
in the water, they got to grab me and throw
me in the water and watch me swim back to
the bank. I'm gonna swim right back and get right

(01:42:37):
back out the water. You're dealing with determination on my side.
You ain't dealing with no puppy. You dealing with a
big dog. I'm gonna make sure every single time they
try to throw me in the water, I'm swimming right
back to the bank.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
I know what it's like being on land now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
I got luggage, and I tell every young pack looking
you're gonna be up out of that one day.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Don't get stuck in that shit. They done tricked all us.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
Like reputation is keen, when legacy is keen, Leave something
for your loved ones in your family, your little boys
to look up too. No matter what they tell my sons,
my son's gonna be able to see my daddy put
the work down. They get old enough to recognize the
difference between the talkers and the doors. My daddy was
a door. He were one of them men. He when

(01:43:24):
he got it done. It's a fact. My mama grew
up in the ghetto, and she done all she can.
She compromised everything she had to make sure I look good,
make sure I went to school with good clothes. But
she never put herself in position. It's documented. Her son
figured it out. It's documented them little boys. Daddy figured

(01:43:46):
it out, that boy nephew figured it out. It's documented.
I come from nothing. I don't got nothing to prove.
As it pertains to that, don't get caught proving yourself
in the arena.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
They don't matter. Love one.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
One thing I know is a low frequency. It's a
low vibration. And the devil is infiltrated the ghetto. The
devil is infiltrated the ghetto. And so why they're killing
each other. It's always gonna be an unanswered question for
me because it's something I can't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
I understand defending yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
I can never understand pulling up to a party and
hitting and hitting people who are not involved in anything.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
I just couldn't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
And the farther i get away from the ghetto, the
more information I'm getting in the high level I'm going up,
and the more I'm reading, and the more I'm getting
closer to God, I'm starting to realize that retaliation is
a trap. There's a way to do everything, like there's
a way to do anything. You hear me, You've got

(01:44:52):
to remember that a war kills expectation. That's why the
young don't even plan on making it out. They look
at themself. Man, listen, man, I'm twenty one, I'm twenty three.
I don't even know how many of them, knowing afty
years old, that really grew up gang banging. I don't

(01:45:15):
know a bunch of that I knew was super tough
that made it to an old age. I know one
real gangster that I know for a fact that wentn't
put in so much work, and he spent a lot
of time in jail, But he probably the oldest real
gangster I know. All the gangsters died when I was younger.
As I looked up too that was really them. Men
that died when I were young.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
I attended funerals, are real big dogs. At fifteen sixteen,
watching him die, who we respected, who can walk in
any neighborhood, gang banging and respected around this town, didn't
make it to my age, Lord one, So how are
you doing anything but setting yourself up for failure down

(01:46:00):
those pathways?

Speaker 6 (01:46:03):
Average?

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
And so God put it on my heart. Chicago, Memphis, Cashville, Miami, Atlanta, LA.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
The whole black culture. We got some unraveling to do. Love,
We got some unraveling the due. If we gonna be anything,
let's be soldiers for man. Listen, man, let me not
even But I'm just saying, love one. Let's not keep
doing this to each other. But the new question is

(01:46:36):
how do we end it? And that's something that I
haven't came up with an answer to yet. There ain't
enough opportunity for everybody to make it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
And I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
And that's what hurts your heart is because you know
that when you get some money, the only people that
has redeemed themselves is that when it got a few dollars.
And he kind of understand. But the ones that's broken,
they still got their jerseys on it, running around the ghetto,
can't figure nothing not. It's rough to try to tell him.
They turn that off. Lord, pack some luggage. Plan on

(01:47:10):
landing somewhere else. You may not land where Herbo landed.
You may not land what Chief Keith landed. You may
not land what Loom landed. You may not lanyd what
little baby landed. But pack some luggage. Plan on getting
from where you at. And I don't mean I don't
mean literally, I mean mentally. Spend some time on your
day searching for a pathway. I remember coming up dog

(01:47:34):
and this is why I don't go to funerals now.
But I do think my presence is needed in places
that I have retired from, because now my face and
my voice is more powerful than I could ever imagine.
I stopped going to funerals when I was fifteen, sixteen
years old. God is my witness. I went to like

(01:47:56):
ten funerals in a year. In a matter of two years,
I went like ten fifteen funerals, and I just cut
it off.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
I couldn't take no more. It was like.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
Losing somebody that was just business as usual, and that
hurt my feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
When I look back at it, and I look over
my life.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
It's like bro, I can name off names where it's like,
buried him, then we buried him, then we buried him,
then we buried this person, buried that person. Remember he died,
then he died, And you will show up to these
funerals and it'll take a little bit of you every
single time until it become business as usual. So what

(01:48:35):
do you do when getting nothing, getting no results is normal.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
That's when you deal with a little boy who expectations
are retired.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
He don't even pack no luggage. He don't even plan
on never going nowhere. He don't plan on never getting
out this situation. I just need to learn the neighborhood,
the backstreets around here. I need to just know where
Jack and them live at. I need to know what
Chicago New live here, because really I'm gonna be serving
them for the rest of my life. Come on, Lord,
w and pack some lucky God God has the final say.

(01:49:10):
My heart goes out to Chicago, my heart goes out
to everyone affected.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
My heart goes out to our culture because.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
We need we need a rentalvation, we need some rehabilitation.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
We need people who.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
Are breathing life into these youngsters and tell them to
pack some luggage.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Man, don't put yourself in the trick bag. And I
know it's easier said than done, but if it said,
it can't be done.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
I want to move on from this and I talk
about it more, maybe at some other point.

Speaker 6 (01:49:50):
Dog and.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Life is life in right. And I think when you
check out of the and you're watching from the bleachers,
even if it's from the floor seats, the game look
different to you. You can see the files, you can
see the reaching. You can see boy he calling that wrong.
Boy they don't practice him nothing. Boy, them folks ain't

(01:50:15):
even then his mind ain't in the game. But when
you in the game, you don't see all that be
on the corner. I'm open, dog district, I'm open.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
You don't even see him, but on the floor seat
saying watch the corner, that corner man always hoping they
ain't never guarding him. And sometimes that corner man is
I'm speaking towards the pathway of your way out of
this thing. And so it's easy for us to talk
about it because we're not in it. My heart goes

(01:50:44):
out to the stuck in it. But at some point
we got to grow up and pack some luggage. We
got places to be in, things to do, We got
people to see you dig pack some luggage. Young I
never want to talk about this situation that happened a
few weeks ago, and I was gonna let it ride

(01:51:04):
and I speak to it, but I think it deserves
some attention from our platform and from me in particular,
seeing that I do have a relationship with BT. But
I'm very disappointed in BT on a number of levels.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
For those who do.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Not know, BT had the BT Awards a couple of
weeks ago, and that was a situation where Casanet and
a young guy by the name of Tyleell, which is
one of Casanet's friends.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
These dudes both are streamers.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
We know Casanet is one of the biggest streamers in
the world, and what he's been able to do with
his platforms lends him a level of exclusivity to some
of these red carbs in some of these brands that
you know, maybe a lot of people want witness or
be able to experience.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
In their lifetime.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
And so I've always saluted Casanet's speed Aiden Ross, I've
saluted all these young guys because they've been able to
make something and they're entertaining. I want to just show
you guys how the industry works. And so I'm gonna
break down kind of what happened that we're gonna speak
about today. Recently, at the twenty twenty five B and

(01:52:18):
T Awards Red carpet stream of ty Leell and his
niche Sage were initially denied access, apparently due to a
no minor policy and questions around invitations, even though they
have been cleared by his team. After word got around,
Casinet personally intervened, made a call behind the scenes and

(01:52:40):
instantly got both of the men. So what happened is
Tyleell is on the red carpet. He's there part of
the whole Cosinet situation. And also you know he has
a level of notoriety itself. But he was told that, Yo,
your niece can't come on that. Hey stop pay you
know you can't go has here. Hey you can't. No,

(01:53:02):
this is something that you can't do. You can't bring
her on the red carpet. Pay attention to this video.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
You know that ahead of time?

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
And I have for you, like there's on the carpet, you.

Speaker 10 (01:53:14):
Cannot have it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
I just wanted to take a picture in the carpet.

Speaker 6 (01:53:17):
You can take a picture, you.

Speaker 10 (01:53:21):
Kid.

Speaker 9 (01:53:21):
I know today we're talking about the only.

Speaker 10 (01:53:25):
People that got to Shore are icons for their kids,
because they are.

Speaker 9 (01:53:30):
But you cannot have the car.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Okay, okay, so should I.

Speaker 9 (01:53:36):
I'm gonna call John.

Speaker 10 (01:53:37):
At this moment right now, they're not They're never They're
not respecting your uncle because your uncle, me, me and
you and their eyes because you're the biggest star in
the world and I'm one of the biggest stars in
the world. Right so at this very moment, they're not
really respecting our starts.

Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
Out of stage because it's a kid.

Speaker 10 (01:53:51):
Because watch everybody clip this right now and remember this,
Remember this time they gave me and Sage a hard time.

Speaker 9 (01:53:58):
On the red carpet. You know what I'm saying, I'm
not mad. I'm motivated.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
You fee what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:54:03):
I'm not mad.

Speaker 2 (01:54:03):
I'm motivated.

Speaker 9 (01:54:04):
I'm not mad.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
I'm motivated.

Speaker 9 (01:54:06):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:54:07):
It's just kind of frustrated. Why would I fly my
knees from New York to LA and I knew she
couldn't reach the red card? You feel I'm saying, But
I'm not mad. I'm motivated, you feel I'm saying, and
we gotta.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
Just work hard the chat chat.

Speaker 9 (01:54:17):
Everybody's been in a W chat chat.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Don't even be mad. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:54:20):
Yat Be handled it very well. Y'all handed it very well.
And it's all about It's all about how we're gonna
move That's all about what we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
Do moving forward. You feel me, But just remember this
moment as of right now, you feel I'm saying. You
heard them say that, Yo, we can't have kids on
there because there's liquor. You can see this in real time.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Me as a grown man, maybe not ty Lil and
them they're kind of younger, so they you know, they
have a certain level of respect for authority. And also,
let me say this, w mindset for ty Lie in
that moment, because his reaction in that moment could have
ruined the entire scenario.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
But he just held it down even though I know
he was.

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
Affected emotionally baited in that moment because it's like I
see kids on the red carpet, and so you see them,
you see them in real time, BT you see them
in real time with the parameters saying that, well, we
can't have kids. They're separate icons and this is liquid.
They definitely can't have miners, especially that one. I think

(01:55:18):
that's the part that would have got me, especially this one.
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Love?

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
Average, if you don't mind clarifying question, what do you
mean by that love?

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Especially this one? What does that mean?

Speaker 15 (01:55:32):
Love?

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Give me a little bit more? Yeah, let me get
a little more on that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
Can I hear a little more about that, especially this one? Yeah,
let me get a little bit more on that.

Speaker 10 (01:55:43):
You did.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
But he handled itself well with him knowing that that
scenario didn't sound It didn't sound right. He knew that
that scenario didn't sound right, So we hit up cassing
that I want you to see when Casa net shows up,

(01:56:06):
I want you to see what Casant does.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Pay attention.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
But but literally could not get through there.

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
That's crazy, he said.

Speaker 10 (01:56:13):
Listen, they said it's illegal, sad kids on the car
because it's liquid, and they said right there.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
And then they said only icons on the carpet.

Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
They told that's glazing. Like I was gonna say that word,
but I don't. I an't want to get kicked an
I wanted to say more than that, but I'm not.

Speaker 11 (01:56:27):
Treating hall rooms good.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
I can't get rid. They wasn't let you get right here,
you get read.

Speaker 4 (01:56:33):
That's crazy, like good, I can't get rid they wasn't
let you get right here, you get ready.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
That's crazy. I couldn't get rid of change.

Speaker 10 (01:56:42):
Love me for the iron that so I said, thing,
that's insane, shit, that's crazy, brood.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Only I could want to try that.

Speaker 10 (01:56:51):
You go into the carpet, had us out there, they
must not know we're family first, if they was like
you and I wasn't gonna go, ain't that right?

Speaker 15 (01:57:00):
Say?

Speaker 6 (01:57:02):
Ain't that right?

Speaker 7 (01:57:03):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
W consonant for real? W young W consonets line on
god W consonant. Like if I'm being honest, I can
even see tyleell light up.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
And this is what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
This is why I love the young more than I
love these old. These older to try to be like
they don't know what's going on. You'll ask these old
who got some poor Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Can you do that for me? Oh yeah, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
It seem like they ain't answering for me, yo, bro
y'all the lame look at these young boys. Man, salute
to the young men. You understand consonant come through now, man,
we that's my guy. Man, y'all can't do us like that.
He grab her and walk right through.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
You could call some of these bro you think you
can get me in contact with something and such. I
be wanting to do a deal with them, and I'm
a big fan, and let me see it. They never
get back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Cosinet showed up on BT Red Corbett to someone he
calls his homeboy and made sure that he was able
to bring his knee, said that he flew from out
of town. It don't get no really than that. And
Big Loan don't do no glazing. Yeah I do hazen.
I don't do glazing. You dig yeah nah nah nah,

(01:58:22):
I don't do no glazing. I'm keeping a gangster. That's
real love from Casanet And I appreciate that so much
as a young powerful black man. Because some of these
his grandfathered in or some of these old they'll play
the no, look you be standing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Outside, man. They'd have told me fly up here. I'm
trying to get in the thing. Stop answering.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
That's why if I invite you, you good bro, if
I tell you to come, you love you locked in
You love. I'm gonna come and get you myself if
it comes down to that. I don't play these industry games,
and clearly Cosinet doesn't either when it comes.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
To his people.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
But BT makes these things up as they go. BT
has dropped the ball on several occasions. They seem to
be culturally clueless. First, we're gonna listen to Consonette. First,
we'll listen to what Casanet said, and then we'll go
to Tylee.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Pay attention for stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:59:18):
Nobody told me nothing. I rap six, that's that says less.

Speaker 6 (01:59:21):
Nobody was telling me.

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
The whole time.

Speaker 16 (01:59:25):
Recently, the BT Awards happened, and while there a couple
of streamers were invited in order to promote the events,
that being Kyson Tyler among many others. But while they
were there, tylew and specific but asically disrespected or walking
on the red carpet because he was not allowed to
walk with his younger sibling.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
He know that ahead of time, and I got to
that's crazy. Bro in a carpet.

Speaker 5 (01:59:54):
Became the whole energy for stuff. Nobody told me nothing.
I rap sakes not that saints less dop.

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
It's get right here. Nobody even telling me shit nigga
the whole time.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (02:00:06):
Yes, you can say.

Speaker 9 (02:00:07):
Rules are rules.

Speaker 5 (02:00:08):
Yes you can say rules are rules, but they switch
when I came to the spot, So like, are you
feel what I'm saying? So she is a little vendable, bro,
Like she had her credentials. Tylo had the credentials, says
had her credentials. Bro, I don't like how they were
treated on a red carpet. It's not like they even
stopped me and said, hey, Kle Like, no, no, bro,
Like we got through that ship, bro, and what and
what a lot of people got messed up?

Speaker 11 (02:00:28):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (02:00:28):
Like your live streaming is actually what I like about
live shreaming events is like it's actually showing the.

Speaker 4 (02:00:34):
Real version of what's going on.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
It's showing the real moments of what people gotta go through,
but people don't see it.

Speaker 10 (02:00:41):
I can't even think Kyle enough, And I'm very thankful
that Kyle's ableue tough to help me and my niece
Kit in the red carpet, in my mother's life, you feel,
I'm saying, like, and I'm not gonna watch it. It's like,
I'm so thankful KD knows that you kid, if you
feel them saying, coy know that you guys know that
w KI you feel them saying. But I'm way more
thankful that me and Ki stuff together and he was

(02:01:03):
able to show the world what happens.

Speaker 9 (02:01:05):
Every day off camera.

Speaker 10 (02:01:08):
I can't even look at y'all because that shit happens
every day off camera.

Speaker 9 (02:01:13):
Game and no.

Speaker 17 (02:01:13):
And I'm not mad because I know his level to
this shit. I know his levels to this shit. I
know him not bigger in the program. But one thing
I could say, nobody's bigger than the program. Nobody's bigger
in the program.

Speaker 15 (02:01:25):
But for y'all to tell me all of those lies
to try to keep this four year old off the
red carpet, for Coss not to come through like I'm
not gonna lie, well, he came through, and Kyle walked
through the Metal Detectives with Sage because I didn't even
move through the medtective.

Speaker 9 (02:01:39):
With Saves, because I went through really really really see, like, Yo,
this is real, this.

Speaker 6 (02:01:43):
Shit is shit.

Speaker 10 (02:01:45):
If I'm ty little ty lier, this is a very
important thing for you to do right here. You have
to know your worth. I'm not I'm not fetting no
hate anywhere because me personally again in my personal world.

Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
It was amazing for me.

Speaker 10 (02:01:56):
If they call again, do you take an opportunity from
be easy again or do you say know?

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
The only way you move forward? I feel like is
if you get an apology.

Speaker 15 (02:02:04):
Game.

Speaker 4 (02:02:05):
That's the only way, the only way that you should
ever want to work.

Speaker 10 (02:02:08):
Again in this area right here, is if you get
a sincere, genuine apology for what happened.

Speaker 4 (02:02:14):
Complex. I've seen what they do with Chris. I've seen
what the Complex how to do with Chris.

Speaker 10 (02:02:18):
I wasn't doing enough for with a Complex unless there
was an apology and they publicly apologize to him till
now we're back on good terms.

Speaker 4 (02:02:23):
That's how it should work.

Speaker 10 (02:02:24):
Something happens, it should be an apology and they all
move forward.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
The other thing I want to speak to is that
these companies like BT, you know, they want these young
men's fan bases, but they don't want to actually have
a relationship with them.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
It's almost like, we don't give about you. We just
care about your fan base.

Speaker 1 (02:02:43):
And for me, that's alarming, especially for something that is
named black entertainment television. Also, this is a trick that's
being ran in this industry is that they put black
on something, and then they don't even stand for the
Black creator at all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:58):
This is part of the industry trick.

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
Even in rep you'll hear a lie familia and family
and gang and we.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
You know, we for life and all of that. These
are tricks that people run, so you don't run the.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
Chicks and balances to say, well, how are you actually
treating people?

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
Are you actually for the creator?

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
Do you care about us or just want to tap
into our audience to run your numbers up even more
or expand your brand equity with the young folks. A
lot of times they don't give eighth about the people.
They just care about the platform. Naming something black entertainment
television and not even with black entertainers in a way

(02:03:41):
that's conducive to where they're trying to go or what
they're trying to do is very alarming. There is no
value in an invite to the feasts. If they tie
your hands behind your back, you just gonna smell the food.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
You can't do it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
You're just gonna You're gonna sit there smelling the food.
You can't even eat nothing, and you can't get your
hands on nothing. You can't move and do nothing. You
just get to smell the food that they cooking and
they eating. But it's for the blacks. It's black entertain
and it's black this. It's black that, yo. My pay attention.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
I'm glad the young.

Speaker 1 (02:04:15):
Boys expose that because that's a trick that's always being ran.
I want to listen to a little bit more ty
Lil before we come back with some more commentary.

Speaker 10 (02:04:24):
Pay attention some people out there, I'm their idol, I'm
somebody's son. I'm a brother, I'm an uncle, and I'm
a king in my eyes and my eyes. Bet, I'm
a king and my eyes I'm that and my eyes
I'm a kon me yes me, Tyllo, Johnny James, I said,

(02:04:45):
my ain't no average bet, no bet employees to you guys,
I'm a kon to myself. I'm a icon to myself.
I'm a king and to myself, Yes, I'm that. And
I'm gonna be honest to the to the fat out

(02:05:05):
there because I didn't even get to speak to your fetis.
You suck to the fat out there on that carpet
that was sucking my and that told me to my
face because I don't give y'all know how to go
on a carpet, to set a good example, for to
set a good example to the people that was watching me,
and then to the set a good.

Speaker 9 (02:05:26):
Example to my niece.

Speaker 10 (02:05:27):
Of course I'm gonna keep my composure because I ain't
a leader, and of course I'm gonna be a good
role model to my niece. And I'm not about to argue.
I'm not about to yell, and I'm not about to
come out of my face in front of my little niece.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
That's not what you do.

Speaker 10 (02:05:41):
She's a kid and she gives she's gonna understand that,
she's gonna remember that. So it's a bunch of different.

Speaker 9 (02:05:47):
Reasons, chack.

Speaker 10 (02:05:47):
While I really kept my composure, and it's a bunch
of different reasons why I did not leave. Yes, they
did make me feel a way, and yes, at the
same time, I did feel like I was kissing that
because I feel like everybody's.

Speaker 4 (02:05:57):
Giving me to run around.

Speaker 10 (02:05:58):
You feel what I'm saying. But at the same time,
it was all learning experience and at the same time
and it was all.

Speaker 9 (02:06:03):
Sudden done.

Speaker 10 (02:06:07):
Bat I mean to bt employees, y'all really show y'all
true colors.

Speaker 9 (02:06:12):
How does it feel for a fact to tell me
what she said, it goes. He looked at me. I
y'all got to clip the lip at me.

Speaker 10 (02:06:21):
Literally said, Okay, I'm telling you, even if he comes,
nobody's that she's not getting in.

Speaker 9 (02:06:27):
Nobody can get her in.

Speaker 10 (02:06:29):
I want somebody to make an edit and say a
few moments later, Hostage.

Speaker 9 (02:06:40):
A few moments later, Hostage.

Speaker 4 (02:06:44):
Please, can somebody please make a edit?

Speaker 9 (02:06:50):
I hope it's in the reddit.

Speaker 10 (02:06:51):
I hope it's in the reddit because I'm gonna do
a few reactions that I'm getting over you feel.

Speaker 9 (02:06:55):
I'm saying, I got ship claif my father did, and.

Speaker 2 (02:06:58):
I will be at the.

Speaker 9 (02:07:05):
NBA draft.

Speaker 6 (02:07:06):
It ain't.

Speaker 9 (02:07:15):
Yo. I'm not gonna lie on my life.

Speaker 10 (02:07:20):
Chat.

Speaker 9 (02:07:21):
I'm not gonna lie on my life. And it's like,
I'm so thankful God knows that you could if you
feel them saying, Cad know that you guys know that
w Ki check you feel what I'm saying. But I'm
way more thankful that me and Ki.

Speaker 10 (02:07:37):
Stuck together and we was able to show the world
what happens every day off camera. I can't even look
at Chap because that happens every.

Speaker 9 (02:07:48):
Day off camera.

Speaker 15 (02:07:50):
Game.

Speaker 17 (02:07:53):
It ain't everything on.

Speaker 7 (02:07:55):
My mother's life. That shit happens every day off camera.
Every day off camera, that happens.

Speaker 9 (02:08:05):
Bro, they're gonna tell me.

Speaker 10 (02:08:09):
Somebody whispered to me and said, Bro, this is not
I think you should entrigue because this is not gonna
be a good look for brands out there in the future.

Speaker 9 (02:08:18):
No, I'm not gonna entreme one and two.

Speaker 10 (02:08:24):
It's not gonna be a good look for be et
staff and employee employees in the future.

Speaker 14 (02:08:30):
That's what It's not gonna be a good look for
for you guys to say. For that's it for y'all
to say, for you guys to say, for you guys to.

Speaker 10 (02:08:46):
Say, only icon kids could come on the carpet, says
cannot come on a carpet because this alcohol the icon
ca it's that can come. We got this, they got
to approve beforehand. And it's four people kids. If I
remember her name, I think they said Mariah Carey. I

(02:09:10):
forgot who they said. It was so much different, so
much different scenarios. It was so much different things being
told to me. It was so much different.

Speaker 9 (02:09:22):
Oh, she can't come in the cart because this says
she can.

Speaker 10 (02:09:24):
Come in the car because this, because this, because this,
because that.

Speaker 9 (02:09:26):
Because this.

Speaker 6 (02:09:29):
For consa that.

Speaker 10 (02:09:32):
To do this, for constant that, to do this, Constant
that walked into that carpet, like Lebron walking into the
walking into the Celtics stadium game six, Constant that walked
into that carpet. God, bring their kids, tend securities are

(02:09:56):
not cameras. God, go ahead, Where how are all these
kids with you? I think I think I'm gonna bring
two kids now, two plus twenty eight. I got thirty
kids with me, thirty kids, seven grenades, a truck, I
got seven different streamers.

Speaker 6 (02:10:16):
Okay, God from emis Et.

Speaker 9 (02:10:32):
Sage bush Dads.

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
This ship ain't gonna average.

Speaker 9 (02:10:41):
Joe y'all dead.

Speaker 10 (02:10:44):
Nah, I'm gonna be so on this this like, I'm
gonna be so honest. Gang, that's the most mature y'all. Y'all,
that's the most mature y'all ever gonna see the game.

(02:11:06):
That's the most mature y'all ever gonna see. Because of
my mother's life. If that's how I didn't do little
interviews out there because I was just I was mad,
but I was grateful. Oh my mother's like, I was
so grateful me and says to the picture. It was
a whole some moment me and Cod from the Bronx
to E B T, Oh my dog. But I'm gonna
be honest, if i'd have got on one interview that

(02:11:26):
I would have said from E B T to b
T to S M D, I would have said some
wild I would have released.

Speaker 2 (02:11:32):
Some wild word of my motherhood. Not get it.

Speaker 10 (02:11:37):
And yes.

Speaker 11 (02:11:39):
And no.

Speaker 9 (02:11:39):
And I'm not mad because I know his level of sedition.

Speaker 6 (02:11:44):
I know his level.

Speaker 1 (02:11:46):
So as you've seen now and again, I do want
to be clear too that you know I can't hold
the entire BT to the fire, but BT, the people
you guys have in position have made mistake after mistake
after mistake after mistake, and they just always late to
the part. Again, I sent a salute to casanet enty Leo.

(02:12:10):
That's the thing about being early. They don't recognize you
into it's too late. I want the youngsters to know
as well as me, you have to always remember, never
mistake or handshake with a seat at the table.

Speaker 2 (02:12:26):
And we'll do that a lot, because.

Speaker 1 (02:12:30):
We'll do that a lot because we come from not
so just even getting in the vicinity and getting a
handshake from some of these people will kind of place
us in a scenario where we say, you know what, yo, man,
I feel like we in it together now.

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
Now we ain't in it together until they show you
we in it together.

Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
And BT, you guys have made some monumental mistakes along
your journey, especially with your rebrand, and this is just one,
Like even with me. I was talking to them and
I'm saying to myself, I'm a black man. I'm one
of the more respected people in our culture. Period. I
got access to every big artist in the culture. They
know who I am, they listen to me. I have

(02:13:11):
relationships with some of the biggest names in culture that
is period, that is literally period. And so as I'm
speaking with BT, and I have my people speaking with BT,
and they're saying, Yo, we're gonna try to get you
into the media room, and then all of a sudden
they go dog And I'm saying to myself, how did
this happen? What else can they be looking for? I'm me,

(02:13:34):
I'm someone in culture, well established. I'm on like a
four year run, I'm a well established brand, a well
established podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:13:42):
We got I Heart backing.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
We're tied in with Black Effect, which BT Black Entertainment,
Black Effect. I'm saying whoa, this gotta be a layup.
It's a black owned company. I'm a black creator. I'm
tied with every black artist in the culture. So they
can't be looking for anything black to get it done.
They're looking for the white coat signe. This is just
what I came up with. They're looking for the white

(02:14:05):
coast signe. And so for me, like I told you
guys a long time ago, the black shit in the
brand and had you if people put that black shit
in the brand, you gotta be careful dog Like BT,
you have to be careful because a lot of times
it's actually not ran by black people, and they're actually

(02:14:26):
not tapped into Black culture. They just have black in
their name to mass themselves as being the pathway or
the interstate into black culture when really they're not even
tapped in in black culture. And what happens in content
world with podcasting, streaming, all these different things is going
through what REP went through. I remember when REP had
a time where a lot of the labels and brands

(02:14:49):
and shit wouldn't accept a hit as a hit into
it was whitewashed. Black people had been said, it's a hit,
it's by black people. But when the white people is
whitewashed when.

Speaker 2 (02:14:59):
They get their hand on it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
Now it's officially a hit. That's an oversight. And if
I'm being honest, this isn't an oversight by black. If
I'm being honest, this isn't the oversight. This is how
they operate. Be careful because sometimes you'll think, man, there's
just an oversight, now, little when this is how they operate.

Speaker 2 (02:15:20):
It's not on it's in that resume doll. This is
part of their resume.

Speaker 1 (02:15:29):
If they can't go in their roller decks of the
white companies or white people, it's gonna be hard for
you to even get into something that says black entertainment
when you're a black creator. It's almost no way to
come back from that. You'll have some of these companies
and it's a trick play. They'll asks you to provide
everything they know you don't have. That asks you to
provide everything you never had, to prove you deserve something

(02:15:52):
that they know they never gonna give you. So if
you can get your numbers here like these unreasonable bench marks,
these unreasonable expectations on relationships, like they'll put you in
a position.

Speaker 2 (02:16:04):
Knowing that yo, you put the benchmark out of reach.
I can never reach that.

Speaker 1 (02:16:08):
But it's in the contract. Oh, but it's in our relationship.
If you can just yo, you know, they playing one
hundred years worth games on you. And so I asked
that BT and other companies out there that hang they
had on their part of the culture speaking for the culture.
I asked that you guys, please, if you're gonna be

(02:16:30):
for the culture, be for all of the culture, not
just the parse with the corporate clearance, because a lot
of times you have to have a white corporate clearance
for these black companies to greenlight you. Even when you're
doing business as getting with some of these rappers and
you're going through publicist in the label, Like if you
say that you're signed to a white company like a

(02:16:51):
Complex or Barstool, they greenlighted you signed to a black company.
Or you're independent black creator that got a bunch of
following a bunch of traction, they hesitate because they're looking
for the white corporate clearance to make anything happen. And
that's what slowed down the rapper and the artists. It's

(02:17:14):
like they no longer have people that are of the
culture that's going to find the talent. See a lot
of times, the people who benefit from the culture, they
often fear the people that built the coature. And so
when I say BT is out of the loop, I
don't mean they missed the moment. I mean they missed
the movement. They missed the movement of streaming, they missed

(02:17:36):
the movement of podcasting. I look in the media room
and I see people and I'm saying, yo, it has
to be something going on. While I'm not in that
media room, or while they told my people that we
ran out of room this year, excuse me, I see
certain people in there, and I'm saying, Yo, it gotta
be something bigger than just you gotta be a black

(02:17:58):
platform with numbers deals, I got everything, every box is
checked off, and they just not missing the moment. They
missing the movement. But it's not a mistake. It's their
business model. BT is supposed to be the post of
the culture. But every year they show up blake to
their own party. They didn't find Ca Sannett, they didn't

(02:18:19):
help build Tylell, they didn't see us. They wait till
we traind go viral picked up by brands, and then
they try to act like they've been tapped in. But
that's the irony. A network name for US built on US.
Can't even recognize us in real time. BT don't follow
the culture, follow the coverage. That ain't a vision, that's
a TV guide they dealing with. They ain't tapped in.

(02:18:44):
Howd of you're gonna have black in your name but
put blindfolds on it in your practice. I'm a black
man signed to a black company doing business on the
highest level, tapped in with every black artist, and they
told me it wasn't room.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
So I'm no different than Tylerell. They just make it
up as they go. Love one.

Speaker 1 (02:19:01):
They say that this is the Culture Award Show, but
sometimes it feels like they're hosting a party but don't
know who they invited. They got black literally in bold letters,
but when black creators show up without a middle man,
the system glitches. It's not celebration and segregation. See I
was gonna go, but I'm not interested in going. This

(02:19:22):
is why sometimes I don't bring my kids. You see
Tylee go to that. Sometimes I don't bring my kids
places because I know if you do that to me
and my children, you ruin our relationship and I can't
guarantee how I'm an act I can't guarantee it. That's
why I don't put my kids in that situation. It's
probably only Baby and P that I feel comfortable showing

(02:19:43):
up literally.

Speaker 2 (02:19:44):
With my kids in Charlemagne. Charlemagne are sinned for me.

Speaker 1 (02:19:48):
But Bro, like even when Baby when I got to
the to the when I got to the window at
Baby Show, I had six different tags and six different
tickets in six different backstage things. Because Piece and some
baby saying something they both sent them up bakes your
loom good, you see what I'm saying. So I understand

(02:20:09):
when people with you, they really with you. But I
don't bring my kids bro because it's just gross. And
I keep myself out of those situations. Man, you know
what I'm saying. I just keep myself out of those situations.
It's just unfortunate that BT have the culture in his

(02:20:31):
name and then forget what the culture looks like. You know,
they saw a kid Tyleell streamer and forgot they were
looking directly at the next generation of start power. They
still act like access is earned by industry validation, not impact.
But who validates them now? The streets are the streamers.
I think BT continues to drop the ball. I'm starting

(02:20:52):
to think it's not them missing the moment, it's them
missing a movement. And this is just up there podcast
with signing out and I'll see you guys next week.
I love y'all for sure, for sure. Make sure you
hear like, subscribe, share show people, let people know you
want to keep seeing these episodes, just don't the way
I'm gonna keep doing them.

Speaker 2 (02:21:09):
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