OMB Peezy (RETURNS) EXPOSES Label’s Plan to Steal GloRilla’s Song! NoCap’s Beef & YFN Lucci| Yo Gotti's Business

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Low ship.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I had somebody I loved up that month statement, I
don't care if I lose my job behind this.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
We can go to war, Yeah, bro baby, we can
go to war with them or well they on your
side on this, we can was a gist. You can
go wall what over my song?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bro blay on me?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Brother don al really crying that they came through, Like, hey,
expecial when I hear about the glow Glow being on
that they weren't really tribute. They weren't really tripping at
first about that song going up on ticket Tide. They
were trying to wait place because if I dropped the tape,
if I dropped the tape and they seen the glow realer.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
They're like, oh four to grab me a Hordes performing
I Love Her from her debut album Glorious Picture Pain
Give It.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Up for Good.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
He really piggyback and off got it. They really use
and got it. But it's been this So what they
gonna do is they extorting that friendship with them too.
Niggas ain't no Kevin, no cap that's his name?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
What is he? Is? He?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Is he ops? Or is he homies? I don't know?
Is he ops? He's a.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
You know, me and Kevin little hurt he had a
little minute ago and you know it's like that shit
still got a you know, I ain't feeling looks like
with him at he ain't. Man, I see somebody man
who out they holes getting out the money and sh
you know, and we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Know bout it.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
We don't decride like everybody else be doing. That's why
they don't like us. I ain't telling about the drop.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
From the lafe. Yeah they what have you ran in
the Wifie and Luci?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
All right, some more news here in Atlanta, Atlanta rapper
Wife and Lucci was released just a year after he was.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Sentenced to prison. These are pictures is.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Here reunited with his family. The rapper whose real name
is Ray Shawn Bennett. He pleaded guilty to you one
counter violation of the Street Gang Terrorism and Prevention Act.
He was sentenced to twenty years with ten to serve,
but after nearly three years in jail before sentencing, he's
now free due to parole recommendations.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
YO, welcome to us up there podcast. I am your
active and attractive host for another episode. Y'all know the
vice man, I done got demming laced up my boost
and got back to my roots. You dig what I'm saying.
So you know everybody can't come on this platform. You
know what I'm saying. I'm not interested in speaking with everybody. Today.
We got one of my homeboys, man that I really

(02:40):
enjoyed music. Of course, y'all know that. I think the
young lady is a little legend. He's a legend in
his own right. He's a hustler and he got a
very bright future. We got O NBPZ number two. What's
going on? My brother return till it v Bro feeling good?
I'm like, you know, yes, lord man, I said, we

(03:00):
were just kicking it, just talking. You know, first of all,
how are you how you feeling? How is the game?
I'm doing good.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I ain't gonna lie peace for real, for real, like
they know, working, just hitting their games for real real?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right. It's how's business man? You know it's it's constant
changes in the business. You know, this game is in
a very unique place. How you feel about business right now?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Business boomer could have business boom for so Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Ship.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Like I've been telling people, I got time in this music.
So is it like the proof the proof's starting to
be in the.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Pudding now for sure. We were just talking about Glowrilla,
and I think it's important that we champion Glow because she,
you know what I'm saying, for her to do what
she done for you in that moment was so dope.
But you have fans. Always tell you got fans out there,
they laying dormant, and they just they land in sniper position,

(04:01):
us at street guys, US at guys that come from
the underworld. We got to learn how to massage that shit,
you know what I'm saying. How did the Glorilla remix
for lay Down? For people who don't know, Pisa has
a song called lay Down and dropped in one year.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Shit twenty sixteen, December twenty.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Sixteen, That's crazy, dropped in December twenty sixteen, and then
twenty twenty four TikTok revived and rejuvenated that song and
brought it back. That's some craziest shit. It How you
feel about that? I used to all so I got that.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I used to be joking with my pot and she's like,
I need me a TikTok here around his boys it.
But I woke up one day and everybody was just
sending me some shit.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Like it was a dude there cater rid shot got
this who started?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, okay, he.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Was dazz into it. I'm like, I'm like, what the
fuck feeling.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
But that's when I really noticed the power of Tiktoked, right, Bro,
that's TikTok is a power man.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Brought it all the way back. Oh craziness. Goddamn.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I see it going up. I see it going up.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
But you know, being in the game for for seven years,
I'm like, it's all you always got to think for it,
like you gotta be forard thinger. So I'm like, I
see it going up, But what's the next step exactly?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
They're gonna get tired of doing this day? Yeah yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I'm like, what's the next step? What's the next step?
So I'm at the house that chilling one day, I'm like, man,
I d M Glowyala, man, man, I need you on
the remix because I seen you do to dead. I'm like, man,
I need you on the remix. But she d M
me right back, like she has send it through sat
there like three days and what.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'm trying to take you, gangster bro, that's so much
I respect glow for that.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
The Lord though, like you know, she could have seen
she give me.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
She could have built the label. She could have sent
it to you for nothing and then had her people
invoice the lave.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah yeah, we need that.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, man, that's so love. And and don't forgetting that.
I remember you to like Gloryala. Yeah, don't start there. Yeah,
I'm talking about you like Gloriala before she before she is, yeah,
before she turned it over. See, what people don't know
is you got people like academics and others in the

(06:15):
game that used to look at Glororeala and say, and
she need to stop trying to be sexy. She ugly,
she ain't gonna be able to do it. They must
ain't come from the hood. They must ain't see we
done saw the live next door to us. Man, be
like like whees she get that. But that's how you know,
the really from our culture, bro. They black, but they

(06:38):
really ain't from the culture. And it's mean you from
the exactly. And it's those things that shine bright to me.
It's those little bitty tweets. It's like when you hear
a blogger say, yo, Glorilla is a hood rat. She
could never look good. The label trying to make her
be sixy that'll never go. I'm looking at Glorilla knowing
that that's just a young street girl that I don't

(07:02):
seen a blow up in the hood before. I have
seen a glow up from a girl to be like, oh, ship,
she getting herself together, She's starting to look actually, you
know what I'm saying, Like, but that's how much they
look at black women that come from the ghetto. That's
if you ask, that's really, man, I feel like it's.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I feel like it's to a certain extent with the
niggas to you hear, yeah, like they be trying to
force the niggas clean up and ship like look at
young but like I know it. I know for a fake,
it's part of somebody on the level of.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
That man clean up and stop doing that. He ain't going,
he ain't going. Yeah, but it's but then you.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Got people like you got people like, what's a bit?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
What's she keep You know what I'm saying, she keeps coming.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
He rigged riggs, he go to l a right, if
we stay frisking out of the car.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
The way glow up, I bet a lot of people
like he went to school with probably wouldn't keep I mean,
wouldn't wouldn't they speak?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
She keep it with he as far as being a person,
not even Yeah, yeah, and I think but she I
don't know. I think with women they get it hard,
especially like especially with Glow like bro, you gotta think
about what she looked like then and now. But I
know that's part of the process. I'm knowing that if
Shanta get some money, like her features is right, you

(08:21):
did what I'm saying, she ain't just I don't know what.
But it was so many guys in the culture man
that was so critical of that girl trying to when
she first was trying to like well weave and get
her makeup going and pushing back on that. It was
surprising to me. But you was with her when she
was badly like before now she just says she a

(08:43):
bad you know what I'm saying. But before then, yah, yeah,
nia know that though, so I already seen it. Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Know, you feel just how she killed herself. Then she's smut.
She ain't slow. You tell about what she's talking him?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
She like, yeah, she's just playing the game right right right.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I appre I mean did you do you think that
the relationship with her is open to what y'all can
do something else like what's your what's your relationship with
as far as like did y'all build on that? Or
oh you're for sure? For so we had already been
you know.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Uh, I wouldn't say talking because they might run with
this ship.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like what I'm saying, like we was talking talking, but
like look, look mutual.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was like a little friendship like sh DM and
something like had a birthday like like that ship like this,
but I had never asked stuff for like a feature you.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Feel and that's but you got that bad though. You
got their kind of And now it's time though, ain't
no more time, ain't no more Now it's down. Now
it's time, and you got to start hitting that line. Hey,
I saw you like my ship, yeah, you know, and
our self a relationship because I'm working and I got

(09:58):
to make another hunting me and I got to make
ten minutes like this shit, bro, I'm so serious about
this because it's so much riding on it, you know
what I'm saying, Like when I go home, my mother
and them is living a certain way because of this shit.
In fact, so this shit is serious to me. Bro
So when a rapper played with me and consol act

(10:19):
like it's something we were just talking about one of
the homeboy like, bro, you got one more time and
I'm gonna let you know it ain't even worth for us.
Keep doing this right here, player number one, I can
do this shit by myself, like you can. You can
really drop an album solo as rare bro So back
to Glorilla though, Number one. The business behind that record

(10:45):
is that a three hundred record? Did they try to
at the end because they'll run a trick man at
the end, try to oh that song going? Let us
get a part of that before you get out of here.
You dig what I'm saying. What's the business? And the
layed our records? I was already gone.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
You fee him boom.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
So God damn when I when I when I uh,
I had did a distribution deal with with with hit
maker him. I did a distribution shout out hit maker
you feel me?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's a hit maker which one from out of Memphis
or the light skin Nick it's baking out mephis Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
They they threw okay okay, okay okay where they based
out of.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Florida. Okay, it's got a Florida, but.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
It was like for a tape though, I feel me,
it was just like for one yeah, so boom. Then
the ship started going up on TikTok. So now I'm like, okay,
I hate been so I'm freeing and this happening to
me right now.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
God, that's God. Let's God say keep pushing now what
I was.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Telling you what I was sitting there like, but that's God,
like you know.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
They came with the hey, it's going on just the
song we signed you for it, like you know what
I'm saying because it was my first song. Then I
signed three hand like based out that song. I't had
no music when I signed three, I had for the
eight hour studio system and laid out and what I
made in that forty eight hours.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Studios that's wild.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
So they came through like hey, especial when they heard
about the Glow Glow being on that, they weren't really tripping.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
They weren't really.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Tripping at first about the the song going up on
ticket Tide.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
They were trying to wait and play the.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
See because they don'e punting on the niggas. So they
really came I dropped the tape. I dropped the tape
and they seen the glow realer pizza on them.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
They're like, I don't know. So you know we had
we had a shout out, Seleen, I feel you know,
I love I grew up with that man. It's just
been boom. But god damn they get the coming hold.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
On like oh who whoa, whoa whoa Like it was.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
It was a big thing about that. But we came
to an amicable agreement. You feel me too. What you know,
I could put this song on my tape and they
released it through on as a single.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I knew they weren't gonna let you get away with
that more. But you probably could have got away with
that more.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I think I did.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, but but see they want a piece of
but this is what but see, this is what I'm
saying about business. Right, So when that's song go up,
we don't even answer the call. Fact what happens is
you're sending brought back through there because now I got
a little leverage. Y'all got to re up for three
million or something like you use the song to make

(13:15):
them do something else, whether it's just on this one project,
Like all right, so if if we gonna agree for
you guys to pump it through three hundred put four
hundred thousand in the marketing for that plus my percentages
and shit stayed the same. But instead of us fighting
about it, you know what I'm saying, do something to
make me feel good. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,

(13:39):
because I mean it is just business, but it's also
it's hurtful.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's us feelings because from where we come from.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
You it's like everything we do we put our heart
in it because this is all we got.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
So things don't go right.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Be like, man, y'all gotta but at the end of
the day, you can't handle it like you're on a
linar street.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
So you got to learn how to play the game. Fem.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm like, bro, instead of getting on the phone cutting
the boy that them what because I felt like they
were trying to take a moment from it, you feel
instead of getting on the phone cutting near But I'm like, look,
we can handle like this.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I feel you feel me. I'm happy with the with
the agreement.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Right right. Do you see the money coming in from there,
because that might make some money.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah for sure, But you know I still't got little
recoop shit to do, but to recoup here, smile Lane.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
They don't whoop you with the recoop too. That's why
I'm saying the business, but you gotta That's why today
I'm gonna make sure that we talk about your mental health, bro,
because you gotta make sure that you don't let them
nail your your confidence to the cross or demoralizing or
make you feel you know what I'm saying, because you
can start to feel like, you know, unfortunate for us
where we come from. It feels good to see somebody

(14:52):
in power believe in you. Yeah, but sometimes the Nile
don't have to push without nobody in power believing it.
And this ship, you know what I'm saying, and it
gets rough on you and I already made it past that,
and now you gotta look back at that like, oh shit,
I'm back pushing with these with my own you know
what I'm saying. Just two years are for real?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, like people in power believing in it, and then
they not for like two three years ever, something like
me and him right here on the road trying to
figure it out doing it.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
How you deal with that ship though? Do it? Do
it affect you? At all. Ship.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, I'll be I'll be allied to be like, but
I'll be psyching myself out.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I've been doing that.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I was little like, I ain't never had ship.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
So when somebody proposed me something as a kid, I
already tho. I threw it over my shoulder, like might
not have it.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
So if they come with it, it made me ten
times more happier. But they don't.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I ain't even tripper, but you already won. See. And
also you gotta remember this. You can be someone getting
shy there, selling dog, driving a fork lift like you
do now ready conquered so much, so you gotta you
gotta learn how to harness your accomplishments. And understand, bro,
I could be anywhere. And this one man, I just
dropped the record with Glowriller. Fact after these folks slick

(16:07):
got out the way. You see what I'm saying. So
you in a blessed position. Sometimes we'll compare too much.
We'll look at other folks, look what other people doing.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I hadn't seen Kevin Get's interview with where he has
seen something like that. He like comparison is the compare.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Thief for joy. That's a quote and thief joint.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I'm like, damn that I don't even be I'll be watching.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I like to get motivated and inspired you feeling, but
I don't watch compared to be like, damn, I could
be doing that now.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I feel like it's too.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
It is rough, right, because if you're on a label
and you can see you seeing what Because I'm also
in that scenario, right, I'm signed. I understand what it's
like to have other shows, maybe bigger shows, like cause
you got to think I'm in the same space with
Breakfast Club Joe Budden, Like, my show is a part
of those large ELK shows. So when some comes down

(17:00):
the turnpipe for our heart, Breakfast Club is number one, right,
it's them, Like, so sometimes you have to deal with
like understanding, I know what y'all can do, but I
see what y'all doing for me, and my expectations from
what I see y'all doing from them and doing for me,
it's not. Yeah, it ain't clicking, but I can't be.

(17:23):
You can't take it personal. You gotta look at and
know how to work the building. Niggas got to learn
how to work these buildings. That's the number one thing.
It's like when you do get signed? Who is doing what?
And how can I get up under them? People that
the big wigs and all, they ain't emotionally attached to nothing.

(17:44):
They don't give a about an either way. But the
month it's head of marketing, this, the publicist, the head
of the strategy. These are the month Christmas gifts and
it's nigga running game like that, shooting Christmas gifts, Birthday cars.
Like I got with a publicist. I had a meeting,
right they were the first thing we're gonna do is

(18:04):
we're gonna send out the labels Da da da da da,
and we're gonna do this, and we're gonna send a
box to the dead. And I'm like, damn, I ain't
never thought about none of that. Then we're gonna throw
you a party because you gotta know everybody for you.
So if you are at a like for example, they
wanted to do it All Star weekend or the super Bowl.
They like loan, if you throw a dinner at one
of the weekends where all of there, it's gonna be leggy,

(18:28):
you see what I'm saying. So I was thinking, like,
oh shit, it's people that's actually running games like that.
What do you with your team, because that's what you
lose when you exit out of the building and you
leave from a contractual relationship with a label, you lose
some of those resources, some of that market and publicists,

(18:49):
some of that shit that they may not even be
utilizing for you anyway, but in the event they need to,
they got a number to call. You gotta replace that.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
You think, alright, all right?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
So, like I always been good at working rooms though
it is down, it's just yeah, like when I walked
my first started walking in three hundred office up?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
What are you doing on the computer? Over there? Walk
over there?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
You know what I'm saying? What you're doing?

Speaker 2 (19:11):
So I always been good at this. So I had
a good sense of like what everybody do, like in
Everybody Love Man THEMN. Matter of fact. The thing is
when when when I, uh, I ain't gonna say I
love three hundred cause it sounds kind of but when
we stopped doing bending together.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Like rate before that three hundred like chopped in hell?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
You feel me?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Sure? Did you know what I'm saying? So all the
people I grew up with don't even work there no more.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
It's probut they got probably like fourteen fifteen employees, Do
you still have relationship with you?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
For sure?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
All on be texting me.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I'll be texting the amount of guys they could still
make them call.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Heah for sure for shure then, but learning and see
them what they was doing when it was when I peeped,
like nobody was with the niggas. I got damn me
and kem. We built our own team, like I got
my own I got my own marketing person. You fear
my own digital, You fear me my own person who
make my uh my clover or it's all that ship
like you feel me on the studio, your feel So
it's like we we peat what was going on and

(20:06):
then we kind of made it for ourselves.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
And it's kind of like I ain't gonna lie that ship.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I'm finally seeing the foods of that ship for real
and it's only gonna get better. But you gotta spend
some money you have. That's my my biggest thing right now.
It's like I'm saying, bro, you make it, you make up.
You make good money with this ship. But I'm a
street dudes on you know, And I have to talk
to QCP. Now, I gotta talk to some that made

(20:30):
some money because it don't make sense to me. So
it's like bru they saying what they saying.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Oh yeah, we just did a dinner you know, oh
my got bro. Hey the label usually pay for this dinner.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, so ball.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'm like, man, I'm used to this like this, this
the type of lifetime use to your feels. So I'm like,
all right, boom when I go to New York, I
gotta eat up because I'm just what I'm used to say. Listen,
save money, they shut out, say they hit five, but
see he.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Go to game. This is where they whoop us at right,
they able to whoop us because our business don't be
our way structured. The label is structured in the way
where the five thousand is a right right off fixed.
Some nigs reaching and they show money and real talk.
Though that's what's making the niggash. It ain't doing no invention.
But if you know, if you know the text game

(21:26):
and understand how the washing the rents work, you see
what I'm saying. Because you know, again a nigga come
from the street and done done the thing where cod
or hey, I'm gonna leave my money, y'all won't send
the ship or whatever it might be. But Brou when
they look around and say, lord, you got to spend
eight grand on marketing and may nothing happen in eight

(21:46):
thousand for two months or a month, and may nothing happen.
You're gonna get some numbers and ship. But it ain't.
It's a what's the conversion of this? And they saying
it's visibility and it's brand building and it's and you're like, man,
but it's worth it if you're doing everything else. See
if you're only doing that exactly, but if you're doing

(22:07):
that in conjunction with an album coming out, what's some
merch next to it? What the that's when you get
to see it actually get to come back. You know
what I'm saying, You're gonna have to invest some money. Dogs,
It's crazy, bro, You're gonna have to invest some money though.
For sure you gotta pay the play. I mean, here
this is out since that was to understand that ship.
Yeah yeah, yeah, but you cant can't. You're not gonna

(22:28):
be You cannot be afraid to ask mar you met
alone this journey people that like you, and you know,
cause again with us, Brou, I don't even want to
see you at no fun. So I don't even really
want to come ask you this and you say no,
say you certa And I thought we were cooler in that,
Like it's so much just tied up in there, you

(22:50):
know what I'm saying. So and broke COmON was like, Bro,
come come down for the video, the glow, real little video.
Getting sick out man, the.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
More because I show head out like ill man.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Like then as I love, I said, Bro, when I
see glow, I'm gonna get on the show.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I know.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
But see that's staying with me. I know all the
niggas run all of that ship over there, but I
just won't hit them and just be like, yo, man,
plug me with glow. I just don't got it in me,
you know what I'm saying. But what I hope don't
happen is what I think you've done is way too
a nig away from the label and then start doing it.
Really the play is to really do it while you're

(23:33):
in the system, like when when you when y'all building
y'all marketing team to play is why I'm signing three
hundred and we moving now put you on email chain
with my marketing y'all kind of they start stealing ship
from you. And so when we do leave, we got
a few techniques. You know. It's it's just so much game.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
And there's one thing though, I can say, and I
will have to thank you about bro you for show.
So they see like, all right, I'll get it business
together like our lads coming say. I'm like, yeah, I
gotta get it beness together now for sure, for sure,
and everything just start filling filling the place for real.
It once't we start focusing on them like man, hold
on man. So we really were going on around.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
This business, right, what out have made? And how much more?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I ol like Nigga to ask them question. They're like,
all right, so we're just gonna yeah, so you fulfilled.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
All your all you so you can just yeah yeah,
because they because they want to just keep eating them
for And the biggest thing or one of the techniques
that they have is that they convince you either that
the music isn't making money or they understand the fact
that you don't know how to make money with the music.

(24:45):
But they do see they got a system making running through.
Even if it's just twenty grand, fifty grand a month,
thirty grand a month, they know how to move it.
We just gotta believe in ourselves. Man, with the independent route.
You know what I'm saying. You you reached out to anybody
else like rappers? Yeah, anybody else. You're gonna deal with
what my.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Nig right a ris right rigs supposed to be sitting
the verse, big family.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's dope.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Uh should I just reached that.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I just I don't want to put down.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
I'm trying to take over the summer with his next moment,
trying to get this another girl on this song that
just made bro so hord.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
I'm gonna listen here after so hard.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, if I you who I'm trying to get on
their business.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
It's old. Yeah, it's already over though because it's going. Yeah.
So the conversations, like the conversations at the label word,
what like what were they saying when I said when
they downside, what were the conversations like with them niggas
and where you felt like, yo, damn, feel like they

(25:47):
punting on this ship. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
It wasn't no conversation, That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's like they just went radio side.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
It was on the one person talking to a Nigga seleene. Man,
he was asking the phone when that was Rial telling
me right?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
And what was he saying? Like what was it?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Because you know, we ain't know what was going on?
We we ain't even know like that brother from tim
K came.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
He know what I'm saying, which is loose son. Yeah,
so that's who three hundred soul to.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Basically you can stepped down. So we ain't know how
it was going up. So on the phone, bro, be
like you know, it's a lot of changes, Bro, you
feel me like we trying to get a budget. It's like, man,
we came through it right now, Man, the most we
can do is small legs no more like damn bro, Like,
oh my tru Now, I ain't eve gonna say it

(26:40):
was me trying I'm bad at tasting the ship.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
He's trying to hit it about it though, like you
know what I'm saying, It's not.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Wasn't with There wasn't no conversation. You feel me and
then want well when out of the changes happened this ship
and then we found out what was going on, It's
like ship, I get it, you feel me, y'all really
couldn't afford it. You feel me and it's a lot
going on, right, it's a lot going on. Let me
go on by my way, right. And I kind of
felt Selene though you feel oh uh. He was like, man,

(27:10):
this is a song that you know, this this this
song is close to my heart.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I felt that. I feel like that was kind of genuine.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You feel I ain't feeling that. And salute to Selene,
salute to all my industry connects.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
All I'm saying is, if it mean that much to you,
let's read this motherble to me and I got three
four more these jokes though. That's what I'm saying, right,
I'm saying, your your words gotta come with some some actions,
verifiable actions. You don't think afford it though, So then
so so let's hold off on the emotional extortion. Yeah,

(27:47):
let's hold off on the emotional extortion. You know what
I'm saying, cause that'll give me you know what I mean.
So that's what I'm saying, Like, let's not play that game.
I feel good.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
But it's my new word.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
You got it, nig I be kind of a friend,
niggas door man. Most you know, I got a good heart.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
You know how I am? And they know that all
peas It really won't because you you making money. You
you don't gotta work your mama non you good? But
but but but they know in the back of Peasy man,
all he really want is a man with power to
believe in him. So anytime I need something from peas It,
I come play on that fact that I know, man,

(28:33):
I know you always had it a man, or you're
heard good, So I play to the man. It's close
to me, man like this the one man, you know
what I'm saying, not even to Bruh, just in general,
got to guard themselves out here, bro, and with this
business is far up because you gotta be open and guarded.
It's like a it's like a double women, you know

(28:55):
what I'm saying, because you do gott to be open
enough to receive the good people that's out there, but
you gotta also be stern insteadfast enough to make sure
you swatten down and stiff arming the bullshit. Bro. So
So basically, so you saying that you have a current
deal with three hundred and when they go through what

(29:16):
they go through, which as far as they're liquid, they
basically selling down size and reshaping, restructuring the entire business.
You get lost in that shuffle and then they come back.
They basically go radio silent while their process is going on.
And then when they pop back out, keV is not
there no more. And then what's Lucien's son name? I

(29:39):
forgot then what is it? Elliott? Elliott grays yup? So yeah,
so he's back there? Who all is on three hundred
right now? You know?

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Uh, Hunto shout out so hard at mother.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
See that's the thing. Hold on Huncho is hard. But
but but this is what I mean where you're gonna
have to emotionally check out of this game because at
the same time where they're telling Ken there's no budget available,
you gotta be watching what they're doing with hunt you right,
So clearly some some budget is available, you know what

(30:16):
I'm saying. Yeah, So that's when you can't be emotionally
tied to the business. You just gotta see that. Oh
they must not be believing in it anymore. Yeah, but
but you're saying it's Hunto and who else?

Speaker 3 (30:28):
So I believe Megan.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I think Meg gone.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, I think they got it up. They got they
might got wide seal the label and not Thug.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
So if they got Wye sealed the label. They got Gunner,
they got Grid. He just went with uh he just
they cool like them. They manager just hit me like, bro,
we you we gotta get bron your ship. I think
it was zenon someing know. Yeah, so they hit me.

(31:08):
So I said, I'm gonna come down to y'all spot,
and I'm gonna come down and see what y'all got
going on.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
How you feel about them young they curving, They curving
the they curving the game for the young niggs. Everybody
want switches and ship they like. Man, I ain't been
in jail for that long. I ain't going to jail
that I'm getting people. Yeah, I feel like that is
the type of shi we need.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, for sure. I heard one of them niggas songs saying,
I ain't got no ego in l A. We donna
put the Jim up game. I said, it take no
ego to say that the get tough tough here. They
ain't saying that, you know what I'm saying. But I
respected that because he know they gonna spank a niggas
don't heat out there about this ship. Yeah, but yeah,

(31:50):
I mean they pretty cool. I think it's interesting how
two or three of them get a deal at once.
What this speaks to is that number one win a
copycat leave right. So the same way that the NFL
are looking see all the wild cat is and things
doing wild cat. Now, these labels really don't know the

(32:12):
next move. They're watching people like gott It, people like QCP,
people who really love the coaching, right, and so when
they make a move, they say, are you getting him?
We'll get him then, or they run together, cause we
really piggyback and off got it, they really use and
got it. But it's business. So what they gonna do
is they extorting that friendship of them too, Nicks. So

(32:34):
there's a friendship of zion are Do and the Montana
and so they know naturally they gonna run together. He
just got the Gotti stamp, so his shit come with
a different kind of yeah and a different coat sign
next to it. The three hundred machine is cool, but
it's like the Gottic cod sign. He can make certain calls,

(32:56):
mix and match you with certain people that make it
a little easier and get you a little accepted, a
quick quicker yeah yeah, yeah, But I think because of
Zoe and Montana's relationship naturally, it's gonna be some bleed
over Like now I know about one of them, but
because I know about him, I know about the other.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
It's like with y'all like that you rollo and uh
cap uh.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Not really because you know, I moved to California right,
look you feel but when I had started, when I
had came back type ship, we were kind of like
you know.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
What we were thinking that ship, even though you was
in California.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
You gotta understand that your sound never represented in the
market ship. They're not looking at that as you know,
wherever you move, that don't mean shit. It's like what
you represent when we go in here and look at
these papers. That's a Southern artist. You know what I'm saying.
As far as how they be together, right, have y'all
ever been close like that?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Not really, Yeah, but y'all knew each other.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
We know each other and ship. You know, it was
just being like super duper closer.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I wanted to kick y'all three or tape. That'll be hard.
It'll be hard because I know Captain Rodriguez. They recently
squashed their beef. Yeah, you seen that.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
It was like misunderstanding that shit.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
It was like, I don't really know too much about
these situations and ship, but I feel like it was
just an uncomfortable situation, an uncomfortable situation that Ro you
know what I'm saying, Rolloh made the chruice kept didn't
make the same choice, and it was like, oh, it
was like confused. Behind that was like, damn, bro, I
can't even kick it with my dog because these people

(34:36):
might feel some type of way, you know, and bruh, Like, man,
I ain't even gonna.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Kick it with my dog on his situation, right.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
So I respect the season on that, and I respect
the season on there, but they for show finally moved
through that.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
She's like, man, that it is my people feel.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
So everybody gotta respect that. Yeah. And you know Ralo
number one baby love like it ain't even know it
ain't even yeah he really that boy. I'm talking about
soul for him, you know, looking at it. At some point,
Ralo just bossed up, like, yo, I gotta fix I
want to fix.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
That because I ain't gonna lie bring more money together, bro.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
And the really vibe a certain way they vibe is
this like they kick it like yeah yeah yeah yeah.
So for somebody like you right, let's say, how do
you even let's say you want to do something with them?
How do you go about even doing that? Like, I

(35:32):
know y'all cool, but like.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
She rallo ship, I can I can feel me. I
kept a little spurt you feel a little minute ago
and you know that s still got a You know
I ain't feeling with.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
A man I see somebody.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Man, Yeah, I feel bad about this ship im mediately
that I see the two.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You feel me. I wasn't right.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
That ain't no, that ain't no gangs ship keep it, you.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
But as far as like doing phone right like d
M and right now, you feel you're gonna be like
sitting that.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, have you have you spoke so you ain't spoke
the cap but nothing ain't noney his free noney something
my old.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
But my home but you know him my home boy
grew up.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Nigga talked to him brothers like man, ship, Well this
with Brad told me like like man here tripping brothers.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
She said about my mama.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
And I feel him though I respect the Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, I do what Nigga fixed that
though you can't that's deep. You really can't you feel
because I told Pooter man I have I've been apologized
that mama though she had d M like yeah, I'm like,
I apologize that wrong because I felt wrong soon as
I said, like.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Damn yeah that bro mama.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
But when she DM got apologized, I have to go
that for old you feel Yeah, then Poor said that
I had told Poodle like man saying nigga, I apologized
by saying that about the mama.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Right, yeah, what you what you what? You said something
in a song? Or was it it was an interview?
You take you were drunk on that. I'm always though, yeah,
got your little lid feeling good.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
But this is the thing though, this was what people do
when people don't understand.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
But the interview our fresh out ankle, our fresh out ankle, monitor.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Little pot in the head die you feel?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
So I was feeling a lot of like aggression like
on and on our angers, and I'm thinking, I'm going
to go sit down. You feel I'm I'm telling my
policy man, they off me two years, I'll go sit
right now. You feel like I'm ship like that.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Like I'm you ready to lead it on down? They
got good.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I'm preparing myself like, man, what it is?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
So when I got answer, ship, I feel like the
king of the world. Then I'm still mad, like ho, bro,
the world been doing.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
All this talking, all this ships been going on, man
for everybody.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
That's our feeling.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
On the one I said something, but yeah, that's the
only thing that take back though. You feel like that's
the only thing I see in the interview that I
take baking.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
That was wrong.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I shouldn't said that about it, mother, But everything else
I meant the that's big, that's big though.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but I think because I think he
was on eighty of them platform. Yeah, I know AD
eight them. You know, I interview ad them after the
no jumping thing. I ain't talk to him many a
lot of times, I think because these you want to
have a relationship with academics. You know, when I come
off how I and then I don't care about nothing, nobody, no,

(38:26):
not really had words, but you know how I am.
I'm gonna just call it how I see a passionate person. Yeah,
and then yeah, so so you know, sometimes I feel like,
you know, people want to preserve their relationship with act
when act don't even give a fuck, right because me
and Charlemagne, it's my brother acting. Charlemagne is cool. So

(38:46):
I'm knowing how I feel. I'm knowing what's going on.
I ain't no, it's just he know how I am,
the game, know how I am. I'm gonna speak on
what I speak on. I'm gonna put some facts next
to it. I'm gonna move on. Now. If it's a problem,
let me know it's a problem, so I can have
didn't like it's a problem. But if it's a press conference,
let's just talk about it. But if you know so,
I think on their platform at the time eight E them,

(39:09):
they platform wasn't even it wasn't big then it wasn't
really it was it was you really helped it basically.
It's what I'm saying. That clip went crazy, that no
clap clip that month went stupid crazy for them. What's
your relationship with them?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Now?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Do you still run? Yeah? Okay, cool, cool, cool? They
got I like what they've done with media on the
West Coast. They've birthed a little corner, you know what
I'm saying, so you can actually get some money. So
I respect that, you know what I mean? Then I'm
gonna go out there and tap down with all of
their platforms one time for the one time.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
You know what I'm saying. Oh man, that's gonna be Liza.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I'm gonna do that one time for the well I'm saying,
and they come on back probably when I dove for it.
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l Russell was telling me he wants me to be
there when he does the uh boosy and uh. I

(41:20):
think it was boosy juvenile. It was something he putting together.
But he wanted me to.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Be the man. You know, I guess to.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Put the man for shows. Yeah, we gotta beat up,
shut out to Russell. Man, he's doing good in the world.
But man, he's a good braid. Yeah yeah, yeah. So
I'm glad you're feeling good man and you've got yourself
in a better space. But I you, like I said,

(41:52):
you gotta be ready to invest, bro.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, I'm ready. I ain't gonna lie. Oh, I'm on
there for real, for real.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I feel like like I had seen some of my
my Instagram the other day, Like I never wanted to
be an overnight subcists. You feel like I never wanted
that anyway you feel so, I feel like this is
the best way because like everything I've been through, everything
I know in my life, I learned from mistakes or
like you know, up and shit.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
So I ain't no difference with the rap game.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I had to go through some shit so I can
learn it and then make sure all my people don't
go through it if they trying to do the same
thing I'm doing. You feel, Yeah, so shit is like
shit I learned. It's kind of I don't put it
into emotional enough for real. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
I just think, you know, three hundred downsides and it
did hurt them, but it was Yeah. But I always
find it interesting how they can tell one artist on
this label, man the budgets, man, we're trying to get
this ship cleared. And then I can look over and
I'm on the label, and I look over and I see, boy,

(42:53):
they spending money like a month for such and such.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Not even just for bo. So it ain't an envious thing.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
It's not a hating thing, and none of that is
like hold on, It's like if all of us plants.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Everybody plants, you feel men they keep pulling water over
the ship like that. We ain't getting nothing but sunlight
right here.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I need I need some wad over the money like
the thing like that you feel because I have been
rooting bro since he first came in.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
I'm not even just them.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I'm watching them spending money on autists that don't have a.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Quarter fan based or nothing.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
You ain't got no plant in the game, like you ain't.
You ain't been doing shit. But they come with.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yeah. And that's what's fun because you're gonna sit there
and say, I'm a proven act, like I'm on the road,
I'm being booked. I'm sure y'all making money each month
off the streams. I can see that we're streaming, we're moving.
There's some legendary songs in here, right, there's some there's
some songs in your catalog that they can work and

(43:58):
move around and make money out for you knowing this,
like for you guys to I always wonder how they
got away with that. How can a business get away
with cracking that meeting at ten o'clock, looking at one
person is saying, Yo, everything's tied up, the businesses down.
We can't get anything green lit. And they will have
another meeting that same day and they can have the

(44:21):
opposite conversation, always wide open. Anything you want to do,
we'll green lighted. And it's like you think we don't
notice that. And I just hope that you know what
I'm saying, like like I said earlier, just don't let
that ship.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Like I said, like if I were a little bro,
I been faking myself.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I give it.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Because I know God got me. I think when I
always up in the morning, I think of the baby given.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
You don't want, you're not already want, already want?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Telling them about the drop list?

Speaker 1 (44:58):
What is that? What is that?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I was on the drop list? Man?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
They they did, I was on the drop list like
all right from the life. Yeah, they dropped me like basically,
but I'm thinking ship.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Right, Yeah, they having meetings about it.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
That's what That's what mappened, was like the meanings. Yeah, yeah,
on the drop list or whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
It's blessing bro man about it. But this is the
thing why they ain't telling you what? Okay? What is
going on? Like I'm saying, how can I do something
because what y'all need me to? I can keep gates
and go runner put them both on one What we need,
like what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (45:47):
They had to give me, Yeah, they had to.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Give me yeah right, they get from up under that option.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, they had to give me a mother.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
So it's like we just gotta let them go because
it's not moving. But so they let them go type shit.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Boy, they gave you that meal, they gave it me.
They been happy because they would have made that back
off the first war, and then that everything else is
is free money again. See that's what they got to know.
That's that you don't done that for them.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Before multiple time.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
That's what I'm saying. So that's when it gets not
necessarily from a business perspective, because you got all right
to sign who you won't let go who you want.
But from a creative perspective, it can hurt an vision
when the niggas saying how they don't see it, how
they not seeing you? Think it's you, Just the same
way with the woman.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Who that's all I was saying, like yeah, see this
ship like everything everything happy, like not even a two
my own nothing, bro, but everything be heaping it for
me like real deal organically, like I don't be trying
like you feel me.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
I don't do no gimmicks. I don't do none of
that ship like my core fan.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Basically you feel me is like I got the blessing
for my court fan.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Basically loage enough to.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Move around and then make the ship grow.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
You feel so it's like, damn, y'all don't see this
as a as a as a corporation like gam you don't.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Or it's like you're overlooking it that haveing like damn,
who I made man?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
When I stepped throw somebody shoe or something like, I
ain't say excuse me the right.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Time, was like it'd be like it'll with your head.
But at the end of the day, you just can't.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Like like you said, Broy, I can't let this get
to them and I gotta keep they keep moving, bro,
keep thorst at a while, Ye'll report the tell and
keep Thorst at the wall.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Basically, something gonna stick.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
It definitely gonna stick. What you was doing in New York.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Oh, I had went to the next game.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
With a little bad Yeah, I've seen that. That was
the game flow seas out. Yeah, it's hard. That's everybody
out the whole love me Before I left the game,
mother time right to the form, Well, Okay, I got
a little margarite.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I should have got there them ceas to be expensive like.
But what I've noticed is that people like the person
that say less and some certain corporations they have floor seats.
Like when say you in negotiations with Netflix and they

(48:08):
fly you up and they'd be like, hey, when you
hear Friday, if you want to go to the game
or you want to go to we got you that
ship be crazy to win and dining process of someone
trying to get you to do business. You know what
I'm saying. It's like it's a it's a it's a
hell of a thing, Mama.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
It's going down and we're here forever and this sh
ain't going no. Well, straight to a I'm then talking
ship Ah they rep I need them ill and not
be bro. I need me now.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Reflu they gonna come home down.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I recruit on that.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Lift there it is lit only a certain decision fast
so they can't collect.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
The more money out of the sit there. All right,
it's dope, that's the business. Dog Get what that that's
the That's when you're gonna start seeing it and when
this is what I'm saying, like when you're gonna have
to start making them calls because this is your money

(49:23):
now that I fake. Nigga might don't want to make
them when it's all your hands in the job, but
now this is my pack. I'm hustling. Hey, gays, man,
I need you jump on this.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
What all the row way? What's going on?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
You know what I'm saying, Like cause you raw wave?

Speaker 3 (49:38):
And then it's another thing like when when when when
when a label.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Asks if for something you I'm sure you, I'm pretty
you know, nig gonna up to its like and then
it's like, this is a big ass label, so inninge
just ining just rapper that's gonna up to your fear gonna.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Up to.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
And they and they ain't tripping because they passing it
to you exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
And it's still coming out of my pocket the exactly
day instead of me just having the money and doing
it myself. I feelings like, bro, I'm I'm coming in
a dope like that broke with so you want me
to ride?

Speaker 3 (50:10):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
That's how they don't do it. Yeah, and then they
gonna get it done and they gonna respect that, you
know what I'm saying. Because people people know, like, like
you say, there's a difference. You inflated with the labels,
and because they inflated with each other, it's all inflation.
That's how they pencil whoop and keep a d you know,
to keep in the rig game is the most powerful
game in the music industry. You know what I'm saying

(50:34):
is to pencil whoop. You with expenses and and and
just recordings and just we've spent so much money over
here and the moneys went there, and oh man, it's
just we're bleeding money. You know what I'm saying, What
are y'all doing? We want to look at it, and
sometimes you have to add in them and people some
people take out in it this disrespect.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
I learned that too, like I did.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
It's like I'm just trying to see where all the
money been going for the past, Like what's been going on?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
If a person taking that disrespect, they cheat, I'm going on, they.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Cheat because they disrespects, like it's part of the bilding.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
It was like if I I ain't even for the
turning into dopest ship, but it's like, come on, like
where the money going?

Speaker 3 (51:21):
What's it going on?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
What are you paying for the stuff that you said
you was paying for with this money, show me or
what you buying couches exactly and ship for your big
as message. Well, I'm taking care of my whole family,
you know what I mean. You're living out with my budget.
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
That's listen a lot of times that's what's going on,
Like rappers budgets is creating a lot of these dudes
lifestyles and nods and some of these dudes that's eating
off the budget. Oh they knocking y'all lass.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Separene into something and ors like not this ain't even
got nothing to do through how to run some A
and R first than the artists.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
And what I'm trying to or down the ice style
rap and getting here in front of two hundred people.
It's like, did you know that your lay down record
was on that piff? Yeah? I did with them.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yeah, I ain't deal with them. They just grabould come out.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, she got millions because number one, not only it
ain't necessarily because of the view yeah, and it ain't
necessarily because of the view count. Right. What happens is
is that one of the biggest assets that you have
as an artist is your ability to centralize your audience.

(52:43):
You need for people to know, yeah where this is
where you find peace, not over there sometime not over
there when music come out, Yeah, this where you come to.
And when I seen it on that PIFF, I was like,
I wanted did he do a deal with them or what?

Speaker 3 (52:57):
That was another thing.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
So we posted this song to my YouTube. Dam and
Dad pillf had posted. I said, I'm like, I had
it on my YouTube, so I wasn't yourn. So when
we when we came to that amicable agreement, I was
telling you about the song was usually get off my
YouTube and then repose.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I'm like they had it chock down and repost.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
I'm like, what happened?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
So boom?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
At first they was like they was like, all right, y'all,
this this is not right. This is not been handled right.
Send us the assets to the song. And then when
we're we post, y'all can take y'alls down, just keep
it up until.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
We yeah, like hold on, h I'm like, how did
that work? I'm like no, because when when how is
y'all in this?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You feel like this ain't like we stole something from
all of that, So I'm like, what the when we
came to the agreement. It's like all the song put
out as a single, threw on it. But I put
the song on my tape through Hitmaker, feel through the
dish buse did.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Through my level over kid.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
You right, so boring.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
I guess when they put the single out through Warner.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
We don't take it down and put it back cup
type of shit you feel that's crazy?

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, ain't.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
That's but I think it's the relationship that they even
have with these platforms like YouTube or they can call
in and get something took down. I know that, But
that's what's so crazy is like they can just literally
be like, yo, that's I take that down and that's
clearly your record. So I can imagine if they had

(54:32):
all the paperwork showing that it was actually their song. Great,
you know those tools are there for that reason, but
this is clearly your song. And they still have the
ability to call and say and they come down and
then all my bad put it back up and they
put it you know what I'm saying, that's some crazy
ship Because I can't call YouTube and do that. I
can tell the man and people got my address in

(54:54):
their ship. Man, they still leave it up for three
four days at least to they have to look into
it and all that these folks is ain't take that down? Man,
come down, that's wild. So what the what the but
I'm glad you're eating up. So with the YouTube part
of it, why why would they take yours down to
leave that pips?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I don't know, that's what That's what I didn't get
and that's what I ain't gonna I was calling here
about this ship. So I'm like, bro, that pip got
more views than me on my song and like what
this heap? It's like, oh, it must have been a mistake.
We're gonna figure it out, know is that?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Like hold on, give me but y'all was able to
take mine?

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Like what happened?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Y'all can't call and just take it down the same way.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
The same way y'all did do. It's a trigger game.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
That's ugly. I seen it. He did more like I
don't know why, but he'll been on. If we ain't
a part of this, it ain't gonna be nothing. You
can't put it out trying to smash that type of
they try to.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, they try to smish a mad though, like like
like you guys, people, I love y'all deal man, like
shout out y'all.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
I grew up with y'all. How could I hate you
out here? It's like this the business. I'm just I'm
just learning the business.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
So it's like I have the right to speak on
the business, just in case it's some young guys out
here who growing up want to be a rapper. You
feel me, you know what I mean. I'm just I'm
I'm not running them. I'm I'm I'm I'm teaching them.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
And yeah, and also this is not only their experience,
but your experience. And also this platform me and everything
I stand for is edutainment, education on to learn. We
have a responsibility to over communicate because of the road travel. Right,
you come from Alabama when all the way out to

(56:44):
the west and was able to get on in heaven.
If God sees fit, that's one person life you can
change with with your story of what you've been through.
No one can feel a way about that. We have
a duty. We have a duty to do that. So
you not doing anything wrong. You have yet to use
any derogatory terms. You haven't emotionally attacked anyone. You're just

(57:07):
saying some of the tactics in business, and so I
don't I don't see anyone being able to look at
that and see and feel any kind of weather, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, But so when they came
at you and they say, yo, put this song out
through us. If we can't put it out, we're gonna
stop the song, how do they plan on doing that?

(57:28):
Making the calls like they I don't.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Even know I had somebody I loved up that much. Say, man,
I don't care if I lose my job behind this.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
We can go to war.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Verbatim. We can go to war with them, or well
they on your side, we can against you. You can
go to the war. What over my song?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Bro blowing me brother than the red of crying that bitch.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I'm also when I first like because I'm so happy
about that shit happening for a nigga.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Right, I can imagine you know what I'm saying. Basically,
after the move, they just put them.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
On Joe kind of my mama. Yeah yeah, me and
my mama happy. So y'all trying to.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Take this moment from me and you say I don't
care about little my job and we can go to walk.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
I was really grabb chop man.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I'm trying to figure out it was in your face
when they said this over the phone. Okay, but they
really told you that. I'm I'm really to go to war.
Your so about this? Every y'all got all these wise,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
The only thing I can say is I think that,
all right, a person of high power passed you feeling
me off to somebody else that that got put into
a hot power position, and that person made a mistake.
You feel by like basically like nah, like they got

(58:55):
their favorites and the lad feelous like that person made
that mistake.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
And Bro says he didn't know about it.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
You feel me, so he like, man, he I guess
he felt betrayed you feeling which I feel you feeling.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
But at the end of the day, this is my
whole life, right, you know what I mean? So I
have to goal what was right for me.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
It was I have to go it was right, you
know what I'm thinking though now, and I'm thinking about it.
Whoever this person is at this label probably was in
a scenario whatever about to lose their job, because how
do you go on to meeting and explain that the
next he just let go. Look it's literally just got
a song that's going viral on TikTok now got well

(59:39):
on it, right. And so if you were appointed the
person who were looking over his ship and responsible for
delegating resources and looking at our artists and you know,
putting people in position, and you let this slip by you,
especially with the current deal they may have had in place,

(01:00:01):
that splits they may have had in place, they probably said,
my boy, your whole job was to find these kind
of shits with the guy. So now he turns on
you because he know he can't really go in there
with them big wigs and explain like, we have nothing
to do with this song. You know what I'm saying
that that's embarrassing. Yeah, and also your job is on

(01:00:24):
the line, so he may be telling you I'm gonna
lose my job if if, if you don't just sign
it over. Because here's the thing I want to be
clear about, and the record labels know this, if they
had the legal right to do that, it will be
no conversation with you.

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
The mere fact that they're even that's the mere fact
that they're even in the negotiating that we can go
to war where we don't have to go to war
if your paperwork is right and you truly own the record.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
You see what I'm saying. Ain't no war, You see
what I'm saying. But it's only a war because the
paperwork ain't right. And and y'all slick need me to
sign something for y'all to have participation in this month.
You get what I'm saying. So he looking at you, saying,
I just don't know how I feel, Bro, we can
go to war about your song. It's wold, Bro, that's

(01:01:15):
some wow or shit like. That's completely like I can't
even imagine at home, boy, that's this dude record. You
know what I'm saying, But I'm telling you what it is.
It's the pressure of now he got to go explain
to Eliot and all of the people, the big wigs
that sitting at the conference room. He got to explain,

(01:01:35):
all right, what are we doing with Peas? Do we
see the record going on? TikTok? Yeah, we let him
go three months ago? Excuse me, you dig what I'm saying? Yeah,
let we let him go? Well didn't that isn't that
record a part of our Oh let's look, actually it's not.
I'm go fix that like I can see someone telling

(01:01:58):
somebody in the meeting, go fix that, and so that
draws him to a conversation with you. We can go
to war about then, Mama, Like he's spass it out
because they don't want to lose their job. You know
what I'm saying. But he's still wrong if you ask me,
so what was that? What else was saying on that conversation?
Like what do they like?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
My heart?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
A whole lot of like my feelings, my feelings, my feelings,
my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Man, Like this is close to me, So go get
the bank roll, go get the check book.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Come on with him, because I've been doing it over
and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
It took a little longer this time, but it's been
I've been proving myself, you know, being it, but not
saying that I deserve anything for pooling myself. You feelhim,
but I do because in the rep game, you're nothing
if you don't outdo yourself every time. You feel me,
So it's like I've been out doing myself. So why
am I not getting with these little lame mans? Police says,

(01:02:55):
You feel him to be real, like up the culture,
you feel me don't got no careers, But I don't
know how to talk to people.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Walk in the room and they make the whole room uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
How these getting three or four men and you got
a nice, smiling, beautiful black man like myself, talented.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Yeah, every room light up that I walk in. They
don't get by six men.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah, and you can't make sense of You're thinking to yourself,
what the fuck I'm done?

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
You hear man? I know I'm a good person. I
ain't did nothing nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
And even if I did, if they don't got the
nuts to address it, we can't fix it. Feel me like, Yeah,
like what trick bag? Y'all got a like what the fuck?
I don't understand it? But dog guess it's a crazy game.
It's deep though. This is hard, harder than football. Y'all
gonna let me go. How long has it? How long

(01:03:45):
were you parted ways from them when it's conversation about hey,
we're gonna participate and lay down now all of a sudden,
like I'm going back.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
I did the hey did the TI type ships? So
I have been before we did the other deal with
he make uh after it was after? Yeah, it was
after it was I'd say back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Three hundred them, Yeah, yeah, ten K right, ain't nothing
not right, So so tin K right, the ice spice
and all of them was under the tripping red was
under tin K.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
It was like too much like too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
With ten K, which is still kind of right. Yeah yeah,
because that's Universal downsize. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's that's the
record business downsides and now you there. Everybody used to
have their own building, but they but they was it
was always all an illusion, right because it was always
Universal at the top. And what will happen is they'll

(01:04:50):
down serve you the one of these subsidiaries. But if
you get big enough, Universal will pluck you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
From beside the alam mop up right or downstream.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
So that's what Universal didn't participate in a lot of
ship until it makes sense for them to actually be
like yeah, yeah, but they really own all.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
These ships too. All these ships really still under them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
You know what I'm saying. It's like a crazy monopoly
they have on the business. I really really don't look
at it. Yeah, they running some ship together. But let's
talk about this because that's what scenario Drake is in.
He's understanding. Yeah, so he's understanding that, hey, Universal is

(01:05:41):
a very big company. Right when when Drake represents raps
market share, right, He's pretty big and rap, but bro
Universal has Taylor Swift and Billy Irish like in all
these white folks and these big country artists and rock
and roll, it's just such a big entity Tim McGraw
and Miley Cyrus and like Taylor Swift and so it's

(01:06:06):
extremely huge. What's your feelings on what Drake and his
relationship with Universal and his label is. Because he's sewing
for people who don't know, he's sewing, allegedly Swing Universal
for the Not Like Us song coming out. What he's
allegend is is that basically he's been behind the scenes

(01:06:26):
and he's been able to see exactly how everything works.
And so the way that they're treating the Kendrick Lamar song,
he says it's unfair to him because they're not pushing
his music in the same way. What's your feelings on
his whole relationship with Universal and what's your understanding of
what's going on with him?

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
My understanding this shit it's sound like a dog fight.
It sound like shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
It's not like bake your dog fight, both of you
my dolls, but shit, maybe it's dog wan type shit,
but this dog.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
You remember I mean Kendrick and Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Yeh feel like a dog, right, So I ain't I
feel like what I really feel like. I don't think
you can go to war with computer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Yeah, I feel like, is he the you just gotta
learn how to play the game. And I feel like
he know the game enough. He should know the game
enough to know the know the route he's to take
with that. Shif you feel me, I can't call it
you feel because I do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
You think Drake is big enough to go to war
with him? I still think he lose.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Why Michael Jackson done lost.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
That was before technology. So if we want to argue
the other side, we can say, yo, that's before the
direct to consume a business. But it was in place, right,
So Drake has a unique situation. I just think he
may have waited and let the play developation. I think
Drake is big enough to have some global interests, right,

(01:07:55):
I think that. No, that yeah, I think he can
make him pull some all money. And and the reason
I say that is because I'm always watching business. Right,
So when I look at boxing, for example, boxing was
dead or dying for the casual fan, and they have
a guy by the name of Turkish Alashik who's now
came into boxing. His name is your excellency, and so

(01:08:18):
what he's no neighbor. Yeah he got paper paper, the
eatning here or come with the white They Saudi Arabian
see this is a different thing. They just love boxing.
So he come in with the money. So now you
see the money ain't even a thing, honey, mean for
you twenty me what y'all gonna do? So he piped
the whole shit back up the boxing. Now Javonte don't
like him as much because right he's friends with all

(01:08:42):
the other people who are not cool with Javonte. But
what I'm speaking about is boxing would have died in
the traditional form without the global interest. I look at
Drake and say, maybe at some point you have you
have a global entity that comes in and says, yes,
let's utilize your market share, your your celebrity, and let

(01:09:05):
us dump the money into the other side of what
Universal was doing. And now we'll try to compete with Universal,
you know, because it's all French money. That's what Kanye
was talking about, like it's all those big banks off. Sure,
that's really once you really follow the money all the
way up the food chain. It's bigger than Lucien Grange
and some of these guys they worked for. Allegedly, according

(01:09:29):
to Kanye, French banks have a huge investment into Universal,
which controls literally all of rap. Oh you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
So they.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
With the with the Universal. What do you say global entes? Right?
I think I think Drake, Yeah, I think Drake can
have some global hinde knowledge in the money from right,
he's already made it big. So he comes out so
all right, Drake puts his head down. He comes out
with no more Universal, but with a billion and a

(01:10:03):
half dollars. His brand, his music is talent. The same
way with you you look up for you come out
the label with whatever you come out with. It's like
they delivering a baby. You know what I'm saying. You
come out with whatever you come out with. And I'm
thinking that Drake still comes out on the other side
of Universal with enough cat shade and enough time because

(01:10:25):
he's still young and enough talent to where if any event,
some global interest was there. Because I mean, it's big business.
This is billions of dollars, Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
This ain't no little nick.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Telling twenty thousand When he come out. This is the
big boy, This is the person that Universal has used
for the last ten years to take all the reps
market share. So we have a real opportunity. And that's
the reason why I talk about the Turkish Alex sheet,
your excellency, guy, is because Boxing was already Boxing the

(01:10:59):
celebrity this while already there. You know, the superstar fighters
were already there. He just comes in with the money
aspect of it and reactivates the fans. And so that's
what I think. But you see it hard to to
and a lot of people do a lot of people
see it hard for him to win against the life.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Yeah, I see, I see from from from where I'm
looking at from and I'm in the stadium, I'm in
the game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
But from where I'm sitting there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Like a mean walk, what do you think they'll do
to him?

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Because I feel like I feel like it's a lot,
it's a lot that come with this ship like you
got you got, you got blogs and ship that I
was watching the blogger, right, I was watching the blogger
and he he.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Was live on stream.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
But me, I be I analyzed, I got twenty twenty
visits called me eyes and Pope Eye and log so boom,
he's streaming, right, so he pull up a YouTube video
or to roll a loud perform. You people like this that,
so he pull up a video or the row and
Low performance. But when he pulled up the video, you
know YouTube, when you're done watching the video got the
red line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
So I'm like, okay, he already watched this video.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Be folks, So now I'm watching he's going to he
picked he like he like uh he picking a certain
part of a person's performance where it's dead, the crowd
not mover.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
He like, see the world not with them, more people
ain't up them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Then a click another another part of the video or
another person whereform us where it's the lyttiest part of
their performance bem and like tornish and bruh nane feel.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
I'm like, man, it's a lot going on. Like it's
like he had to get paid for that. Can't nobody
tell me he didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
That's why you gotta be tapped in with media, bro,
because people like me not able to come out and
add context to certain things.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
The rap guys always tell him that they can't win
a media award because the dude can literally go live.
I can go live every day and talk about it.
You can't do that. You got to go rap, You
got to go to the studio.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
You just all got to come out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Yeah, you got a lot of ship you doing. I
can litterally every single day be swinging folks opinion about you.
You know what I'm saying, And it can hurt your brand.
But I think Drake is already dealing with the public. Yeah,
the perception battle when the smear campaign. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Campaign, Oh they strong, Yeah, yeah, that's shit powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
But you know, I also think have you heard drake
new album?

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
I heard?

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
What do you think about it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
I like it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
I like give me a whog.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
I like that brass there you know, yeah that deal.
So yeah, there's a couple of other one fuck with
Drake as an artist.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Maybe it was up to me, I would choose.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I would choose Draken's So Drake's music over kenj Lamar music.
But I love how intentional Kens Lamoi is with his music,
like he like you can tell, you can tell it's
very intentional when he put it out, Like I tried
to do this and and I did it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
I worried then white folks wasn't really feeling that Super
Bowl they was. They were saying, what is this ship?
Have been seeing a couple of reviewers, they were saying,
and got hup here and did a subliminal message, I
just want to hear some songs. I don't want to
see y'all letting me going on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I liked the performance feeling, but I feel like it
was so much hype around the performance that it didn't deliver.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
It didn't deliver as much as people thought.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, under delivered. I also think, you know, I, me
and Charlemagne been talking about it a lot, and Charlemagne
always he's big on not giving your haters that that
that that look on such a big stage, you know,
so he basically saying, I wouldn't have done that ship.
I would have went up being done my records. But

(01:15:00):
for me, it didn't. It didn't give what people were
anticipating it, if you know what I'm saying. I think
it was good. The second half of it was it
got better. The first half. I couldn't even hear his mic.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Yeah, I couldn't really hear.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I was like, Yo, this is not this is this
is not good. Everybody's looking especially form my culture because
it was all watching Bro and also with the the
Drake new album will Party next Door some sixty songs

(01:15:34):
for you. What they're saying too, is that he's running
a business play because again he's Swing Universal, so there
was a lot he's sing them, right, so this is
the thing. But here's the thing, right, So he's Swing Universal,
so he couldn't put it out through Universal, but this

(01:15:56):
is what he had in his contract. According to sources,
they're saying his contract read in a way where he
was able to put out singles and other music for
people who were on his label. So for people who
don't know, Party next Door so excellent. It's actually saund right.
So this is how we circumvence and kind of get

(01:16:17):
around the loopholes of the contract and the I'm sorry
the album actually came out under Sony, but I don't
see Sony putting no marketing in it. They ain't doing nothing.
They just gonna let the chips fall what they made.
You know, it's Drake. Let's see what happens. Because they
don't necessarily want to pump it up either because Universal
they're all in bed together, you know what I'm saying.

(01:16:39):
They all kind of like represent the same ship. And
if Drake wins the lawsuit, it's a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
You think you want we need that action.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
With the with the lawsuits, No, not with that one.
With the with the defamation, I don't. I thought he
had more action and its defamation though.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
And they got news people saying that they got news ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Say right, but it's protected under art, and I think
that's the that's the problem you're gonna have, is that
it's like it's protected on the art. And also you
gotta remember he's dealing with Universal. Universal again, Interscope is
a subsidiary of Universal. They were there for fifty and
g on it and game and all these shooting and
they were there for poking Biggie. Yeah, so they not

(01:17:30):
running from the words. They looking at that ship petty.
They said, Bro, there's some petty ship we don't need
to get shot out of outside of radio stations. It's
so like. And then with the defamation thing, I'm almost
certain he don't have a case because if he did,
the NFL wouldn't let him do it. Matter of fact,
I think they have had literally the biggest lawyers in

(01:17:53):
the game looking at the lawsuit and saying, yo, greenlight,
go ahead and do it on Super Bowl, doing on Grammars. Yeah,
this ship he talking about ain't hit it. Yeah, I
don't think so. Now I will say this, I think
he's reversed engineering his audience because if you remember, and
that's why I tell you to stick with your sound,
and that's what we're finna talk to talk about because

(01:18:14):
the labels sometimes to try to get you to switch
or go this rate of different tempo, which is cool,
but double down to your niche and serve your people
right if they know you for serving chicken at Popeyes,
serve chicken at Popeyes, that don't mean you can't have
a chicken sound with your chicken wing, a chicken leg
or chicken breast, a chicken thigh, barbecue chicken, spicy chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
You dig.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
But I got to stick with chicken. You see what
I'm saying. No and shit that go well with chicken, right,
but you gotta stick with your expertise. Now, speaking about Drake,
I think he's reversed engineering his audience because if you remember,
all of the niggles slow to get on the Drake,
not Fak. It was the females that brought Drake yea

(01:19:00):
had I don't put me on. So it feels like
he's trying to reverse engineering and go back through the
females and get us back through the women because we
ain't hearing him right now, kenduring them, donet put up.
They done black design a type of shit. Yeah, they
done black this mother god man. So you know with
this album that he dropped, you know, I just think,

(01:19:23):
I just think that the people are gonna be harshly
judging it. I'm also hearing it. They're pulling tricks on
the back end to inflate the numbers. You know what
I'm saying said they Lord, have you ever done anything
like that?

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Hell now, I just see any the good ship though you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Got the start though, this is the game right that?
Because think about Travis Scott. Travis Scott was on the
charts one time, not even long ago, sold three hundred
and fifty thousand. Nobody I know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Listen to the song and then you go to the
show down the music. How could you gauge how could
you gauge the like the the consumption of the music
if it's like fabricating.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
But you playing the game of numbers with the label,
so you can't worry about. It ain't really fabricated, it's
just I'll tell you what's happening. So they're they're utilizing
the bundle method. So yeah, so that's what Travis Scott
is doing. So when you see him spike back up
and sell three seventy five, it's because he got some
shoes attached toward right. So like if you going by

(01:20:27):
the shoes, the album, come with the shoes, so you
won't even give them the album.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
They're right, they're right there, right there, right, we were talking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
About this, right, yeah, so you wouldn't even care about
the album, like you might got a free Travis Scott album.
You don't even know you really wanted to shoes. But
all of it counts towards right. So that's the game
that that that they're utilizing and what their legend is
Drake them because Academics had came out and said that

(01:20:54):
he was hearing from Universal and people that work from
Universal that they was gonna sabotage Drake. I call cap
on that because if anybody in the world looks at
Academics in the last year, you say he's been kind
of the voice piece of Drake. Why would someone that
Universal that's gonna sabotage Drake. Come tell academics, who's the

(01:21:16):
voice of Drake. It don't to me, it don't make sense.
This is high level chest. This is a low level mistake. Like,
you know, you speak for Drake. Why I'm gonna come
tell you that we gonna sabotage Ain't he's suing us?
That don't make sense to me. But but but yeah,
what was I saying? Okay, but the bundle things, so

(01:21:38):
they say he was. So what they're saying is Drake
them lowered the price to four ninety nine for the
album three ninety nine, shit like that to you know,
make people get it. Yeah, try to do some merch
and shoes and shit with it, you know what I'm saying.
But are you gonna take advantage of the bundle thing?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Oh hey, that's a good ass Ida though for show
for show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
See after you was talking about bad YouTube views and shit,
and I'm thinking, like the basis like trying to like
real deal fabrication.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Yeah, that's not fair.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Nah, they can't. They ain't doing it on that level.
I mean maybe they are. But this ship count towards Billboard,
This ship count count. This is the real ship. Yeah,
so for somebody like you, and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
If they go back and if they consider an auditude,
what if they go back and try to see like, okay,
is this is this like solidified like numbers, like if
you know me like that?

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Yeah, it's that's a out of real boom.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
So even if they go back and look at he
did say that for real though, because they bought these shoes. Yeah,
and they wouldn't real it ain't a thousand folds in
the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
No, no, No, that's the see. And if I were
you or somebody like Little Baby or I would easily
go and get with a known stylist or known brand,
will drop out, will drop a collabed piece just for
the album. You dig what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Yeah, And but.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
If I'm gonna do this in the contract, it need
to read that that other person, that entity, we need
to have fifty k of marketing or something in the
contract because they're eat, we're gonna market We're on an
album push. So yeah, we're marketing and we're helping y'all.
So now we need it from y'all side, an investment

(01:23:26):
on y'all side. Traditionally, in the in the apparel infrastructure
where y'all run ads or do something to help out side.
You know what I'm saying now, where it's just one side,
if one hand watched the other both watch the face. Yeah,
but I would definitely do that like a collab piece.
Not won't even gotta do a bunch of pieces. One

(01:23:47):
piece collab piece.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
They buy this, they get the album download link.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
You know what I'm saying with they purchase and they
counts as a seale and you can start selling them
three months before your shit even come out. This the
games they play though, So when you drop, not only
do you got that lay down that's been streaming for
five months that's slick on the album to help the number,

(01:24:14):
but also we throw in all of those shirts and
smirch and bundles wet undone. You dig and then if
you get even colder, once you get big as drake
to where you're serving so many people, Travis Scott too,
you're serving so many people to wear a ticket come
in there. So now you gotta show tickets. You got
a ticket price, I'm sorry, you got a ticket sale

(01:24:36):
on under your belt. You got an album sell under
your belt and a merch cell all with one Swien.
You know what I'm saying, and that's inflating the number.
Whoever that's a bad thing, not well, people try to
make it like it's a bad thing. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
That's that's that's that's that's marketing at his fas.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
And then somebody like you can get with a hell
star or billionaire boards club, it could be in it,
you know, all the it could be one of them
kind of like uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Collaborative projects or even one of the young rich, young
black Even with people who selling marijuana legally, you feel like,
oh and ship like okay, you buy you buy my
blue straight and you get the you feel even when
you buy a for you by count all that count.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
That's what I'm saying. So you gotta utilize it. Make
sure you take advantage of that ship. You know what
I'm saying. That's the new That's how Travis Scott because
he and the reason I mentioned Travis Scott is because
he was the person that done that, not the person
everybody does it, all the big artists do it. Yeah,
but he just did it with the shoes. But because

(01:25:50):
he did a drop with the shoes, of course, the
next week and the next week, the hype isn't there
for the shoe anymore. You did because the people that
wanted it got it. That's that's what made the numbers
so high. Next week it was the biggest drop off
of any album ever because the true numbers are now

(01:26:11):
back of just the streaming. So I think it might
have did three hundred and seventy five thousand one week
and then fifty eight thousand the next week. But that
should show someone like y'all the power in the bundle thing. Yeah,
stayd nigg hating and they looking back man tricking the numbers,
inflating the numbers, that bullshit ain't instead of saying.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
That was a hell of a little tricky done now, Yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
You gotta pay attention to that man. What have you
ran in the WiFi and Lucas since he got

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