Pt-2 | Rich Homie Quan’s Dad Explains Cause of Death & 911 Timeline—Young Thug, Birdman, Paperwork - ITS UP THERE PODCAST W/LOONEY

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And when he transitioned and I had to go to
the hospital and I saw him, it was a piece
on him.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I han't seen you in a minute, man, So that
the nine one one call came out.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
For the fans who do not know what is the
official cause of death of.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Rich onman Korn. The official cause is deal was overdose. Overdose.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Okay, I need an amblance tell me exactly what happened.
My boyfriend. He's been sleep on the couch and I
put a cover over him because he gets a little cool.
And he's in the living room. And now I just
checked on him because I see he never got up,
and I don't see him breathing. I don't feel a
heart beat.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Now, I say this, man till my last days, this chair,
I'm sitting there along. I don't wish this on nobody.
I'm so much saying, brother, and it's rough, brother. A
few days, we're gonna be eight muchs in.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Listen, when I was watching my grass and go to
the prone the other day and I was looking around
and doing what this.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm fooling myself, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
House, But I've seen like mail on over floor, like
he had knocked over.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Something like he was trying to get somewhere to sit down.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Did you ever meet young Hug.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I met Thug before, Yes, I did, early on in
their careers. We had a personal relation. Okay, cool, But
like I said, man, like I tend to stay out
of certain things.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Don't want to be like, you know, too overbearing and overprotected.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
You know what I'm staying like, not only on thugside,
forcing to brother attitude and egos. Yeah, you know, like

(01:59):
thug da restot to me, big jail, Yeah, big Jeff
off of the conversation. But let's try to bring these
boys back together. But the attitudes and ego we wanted it,
but the attitude and egos we tried. Bro it was
some years it went by, and Jeff restopped to me
try to maintain.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Like, man, Jeff, want to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
And I called him and he was like, man, let's
try to bring these boys back together. But the attitude
and egos was so big we couldn't do it. But
but as fathers we attempted. Man, we didn't turn the
blind eye to it.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know what I'm saying. I wanted to find a resolution.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Man, You followed me like at the end of the day,
we couldn't come to one, but but me and Jeff
did try. What's happening to y'all? This is loan from
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(04:20):
to the show.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah you're Nate right when I said man locked that
in part Yeah, you see what I'm saying. Yeah, And
that was like your platform was people know yeah, people.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And now it's like it's all incoming.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Like I was telling our heart yesterday, I'm like, I
really don't be doing out out going bookings no more.
It's like incoming, which is a great sign for the business,
you know what I'm saying. But I still have specific
conversations I want to have with scientists, and like I'm
going somewhere else with this, and I'm taking the culture

(04:55):
with me.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
See that's the thing, you see, You're you're taking up
us to things we thought over, things that some kids
probably dreamed about.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
You follow what I'm saying. Like I used to have a.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Lot of respect for and still do for Frank Skith
when he had his his like like like the Aerospace
County had. You know, like a lot of inner city kids, bro,
we just hear about that in school. They don't get
a chance to do that. So so like when you
embark on your next levels, like you said, the main thing, bro, listen,
I'm taking the culture with me. It's called exposure. Man,

(05:27):
I'm exposing them to things brou that they probably never
even thought of.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And then it might be a kid to be like,
you know what.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Because I saw that or I had a chance to
hear about it, to learn about it.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I want to dig into.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
That, right because that's how it's all one hand washed
the other both watched the face, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's how it is, So like me doing this.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I look in the game in South Charlemagne and Joe
Budden's and certain people doing the same, but they missing
this point.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's literally what birth this? Right?

Speaker 1 (05:58):
When you talk about shithing, like yeah, but they ain't
saying this though, what about this? And then I would
sit back and wait a week ago by nobody still
ain't saying too. Then it starts, are you peeping ship
that they just ain't peeping because of where you come from?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Bro, that's real, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
So then I started to speak on things and the
reaction of like, oh, it's other people feeling like that,
but it ain't other people saying.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Talking about it. A lot of times like this, just
like I don't want to get off subject. That's just
like what the that should do a sounderstand. I'm sitting
here looking at certain interviews and certain people that came
from where me and you from their head, right, they're
not even speaking on it.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Bro, you follow me like.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
And it's clearly something going on. This is sabotaged, you know.
I mean, it's like they're trying to cappelate the kid man.
At the end of the day, he young, Bro, he
was born with money, he into money. I get it,
But do you penalize him an x amount?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Bro? Because of that? Do you think it's that's what
going on?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Because they're flat because he's more so flashy young dude.
Or is it Dion being his father and Dion being
over his back? Like what do you think is causing
their sounds now to drop out of the draft?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Man?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know what, it's very disturbing, and you know, like
I ain't gonna put no cap on it. You know,
like it's it's clear cut racial, you understand, Yeah, twenty
twenty five. Man, the kid got the numbers. Bro, you understand,
it has a lot to do with his last name.
It has a lot to do with his flamboyancy. It
has a lot to do with his arrogance, you know

(07:35):
what I'm saying. And at the end of the day,
guess what, bro, what does that do with his numbers
on the field? Like, like you got we're in the
third round now, yeah, third.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Round and he still ain't picked. He's probably gonna go undrafted. Bro. Yeah, man,
But you know what that that that just seems like
man like, But.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's like you said that, it definitely feels contrived. It
does not feel like an organic draft happening with this
man falling out of the first and second round.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
How it don't make sense. And you know, the second round.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
They saying they're gonna pick some quarterbacks, and you had
a team like New Orleans Pittsburgh, right pass, Yeah, you
go right past him and need a quarterback. But I
just feel like, man, them folks say, hey, man, listen,
collectively yeah, collectively moving on, We moving you know what
I'm saying. And I really feel like, you know, he young,
and I hope him pray he get a shot, man,
and I hope him pray that he used that you

(08:30):
know what he going through to to fuel him. And
you gotta remember, shit, Tom Brady was a sixth round
draft pick.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Right, but that was based on skill set, and shit,
that was based on numbers. If we're basing this on numbers,
he shouldn't have five times exactly. So also I'm thinking,
how can the league view him dangerous?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Because what's the difference between and I don't mean skill set,
what's the difference between his flamboyance and his arrogance and
his style versus his father When he came out, they
drafted his father with no problem. So is it the
father figure being there that is? You know what I'm saying,
because what I'm hearing from Steven A. Smith and other

(09:11):
people are saying that they believe that. Teams are saying
I like him, but I don't want to deal with
his father if he's not starting, if he's you know
what I'm saying, trying to tell me how to run
the organization.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
But they can also be an escape goat.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And you know what, I really feel like it's an
escape goat because at the end of the day, Dion
wasn't bigger than the NFL.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
You following that de Young can speak what he want
to speak.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I remember old Man told me one day, you know,
like it was players that got in their feelings and quit.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know, I ain't got to do this, so just
walk off, you.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Know, at an early age. And old Man told me
years ago. Make no differen They're still gonna kick off
at one o'clock here Sunday. Man, They're gonna still kick
off at one o'clock every Sunday. You follow that in fact,
and like, like I have mixed emotions. Could it be
dionn or could it be his arrogance? But you know,
at the end of the day, man, I hope he
get a chance.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And and it's it's it's really like it's a sad.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Day for us.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Man, Yeah, like it ain't. It ain't even covered up, man.
And you know, like like they keep making a moher
of he had all this jury out, he had you know,
he had they invited him, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
He didn't go.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
He wanted to do it with his family, had some
all the teams and to see now, man, we in
the third round. And man, that means they don't pick
what sixty to.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Sixty yea, even if you get drafted now still is
a no. It's like a no draft. You know what
I'm saying for him and his status, the damage is
done already.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Even if someone.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Picks like like you said, like like they've they've they've
smeared him so bad and probably messed with his confidence.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
But he's trying to And.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
So that's what I appreciate about the fathers being there.
And of course we'll transition back into our original conversation,
but Dion.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Being there, I'm seeing a man this. I know he's shattered.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I know he's shattered, he's he's he's damnar broken, he's rattled,
his confidences shooking. I know this, But what you see
him doing, you know, I thank God for everything.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know, God is the greatest. That's his father, that's
his daddy. And you know another thing you got to realize.
You got to realize dion and death for his son.
Right But as a dad, den feel this pain too, man,
And y'all saying in my fault, Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, Like like like like I could imagine because
see when I look, I'm like, how would I feel?

(11:36):
Like I'm hurt? You know what I'm saying. But but
in front of my son and my other kids, I
got these are people around the world. I got to
put on this fascn But then how you think he
like when he goes close his door, he probably lay
up against it though, Like, man, that's what I asked.
That's why, because you say you have strong faith. I
think this is a great question. It's like, is there

(12:00):
room for him to like, like what is this? Like
I've been here, I'm with my son. We got genetics
passed down and we know it's proving. We put him
on the proving grounds. He like took two programs to
the next level, and they're telling me it's my fault
in It's like.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
But guess what I'm gonna say this?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
And God knows I don't have no prejudice in me
at all, right, but it's okay for Archie to do
it for payting it, man, but it ain't okay for
THEA to do it for shit do it?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
And his other son? You follow me? So so it's
like it's like different stereotypes.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
You feel what I'm saying, that's the heart light, Like
think about just just think about what what what the
Manning legacy did to the to the NFL. So why
the Sanders legacy couldn't do it?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
You know why?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
It wasn't nothing but to come of our skin? Bro,
Like let's call an a. You know what I'm saying. You know,
like I'm not gonna say like you got to realize,
like this kid grew up around it and like DM
was who he was, and they say that don't fall
far from right.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
So it ain't no this is passed.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Down at the end of the day. What does that
have to do with the talent on the field? Nothing,
exactly nothing.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
And then if you do think Dion is this nuisance
or this person who would be a problem if you
if you draft his son, what do you think he
gonna be if you don't draft his son? If he
is dangerous or powerful or nuisance. I'm really gonna be
mad if y'all don't draft him. But but you know what,
let's go back. Let's show two scenarios. See what y'all

(13:32):
to understand. Negativity sale in America. If it's negative about us,
they gonna jump on. Right, let's do this Travis Hunter
number two, draft Pie right, everything should have been dead
aim on him, right. But y'all want to talk about
his dad to getting permission because he's on probation to
a ten. But Dionne ain't never left his kids side

(13:55):
ever never, I mean being with him from the time
they came up until now and now now we want
to use one of the largest platforms on earth to
try to tie down this family, the legacy they're trying
to build, and they're working hard, hard.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It is come on, man, Then at the end of
the day, you gotta realize at some point then I
gotta go back to Colorado, man. And I know he
damn she ain't trying to take you to do it
with him and give him no job, right, you follow me, man,
But it's like that if they make him do that,
that's come on, no team, take him, no team, no

(14:34):
team man, and he's somewhat like the quarterback coach for
the Colorado team. Brother, that's gonna be got print. But
guess what see you see them them boys who press
them buttons. They already knew the outcome with me and
music because I was riding somewhere and my partner said,
look at this. I said, what come on? I've been

(14:55):
waiting on the job because honestly, I wanted to see
the young boys life transfer and I wanted to see
him and his family.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And they've done all that work and like he's just
been missing.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
He doesn't done the work and then put it in man,
and then on draft day they don't call him man.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I said, ooh, this is getting slipper man.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Look at when when I looked at one through ten,
I start again concerned.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Then Man, I said it was over when he ain't go.
When he didn't go.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Ten, Believe I said something going on, y'all listen, and
I'm im media. So I go to calling around like, yo,
this is gonna be a big story.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
This before I.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Even knew he ain't even gonna get in the second round,
just the top ten was a story just that you
know what, I mean yesterday, I think I was all
in the first round. Woke up the next day, grabbed
my phone. Damn he didn't go first round, So second
round I didn't look. And when I grabbed my phone,
they say he still ain't went. I say, second round.

(15:55):
Then I started looking at it. Got some more quarterbacks
yesterday the second round. I was like, man, they ain't
stuttying that dude, bro, And that's fucked up man Price family. Yeah, sure,
press to him, man, keep you out, head up, man.
One thing about it. What God got for you is
for you, man.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's for sure. And again I do see him trying
to like be like unwavering and stoic. But I know
he broke.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's a lot on a kid man, That's a lot
on a grown man. Man.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
You got to realize, Like, like I had to tell
one of my partuts break, I said, bring up right here,
young Yeah he young man.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Think about me and he was his age. With what
we had, we probably worse than he was.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, and think about this, like we said, he got
presentations at the house and new jer bro that shit
cut deep.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I don't give it down. So I interview Brandon Marshall. Okay,
so Shakur.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Sanders didn't didn't get drafted yet, but Brandon Marshall failed.
Brandon Marshall had his entire family suit a draft day party.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
He thought he was gonna go top ten. I think
he might have failed to.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I don't know what number, in the teens or maybe
the twenties or something. And man, he snapped, I mean,
and that's what I mean. When the father's the honest
the only reason why this young man ain't showing emotional.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the only reason.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Brandy Marshall went up there, whole family downstairs. He trying
to take it in that it ain't happening. He go upstairs,
my man, he.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Breaks the break his hand, break the mirror, crying for
days and days because it hurt him. But like you said,
when when when the cameras ain't there, See, that's when
that's when being a father step in. Yeah. See, Prian
probably pulling that butt to the side, you know what
I'm saying, praying over him, you know, letting them know. Hey, man,

(17:48):
this this this is just a reminder of corporate America.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You understand, you know so.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
But but like you said, man, it's a big difference
in them fathers being there and not being there man.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Because that's the difference.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
He would have been emotionally called out a team said something.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
You racist? What he would have said something because guess
what me and you that did.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah that what I'm telling it wasn't that why Listen
would have been done. Flew the cool would have been done,
picked up the phone and called Loom record this over
the phone. Man it yeah, y'all, nigga trip it man.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
All y'alls. I got more yalls than him. More it
like you start putting his stats oude.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
He would have tried to rationally make his argument in public,
because if you not stoic, bro, and you don't have
any philosophy, you can be emotionally triggered easily. We just
also saw it with Shannon Shaw right for him to
come out and say certain things like, oh you they
done tricked you. You ain't supposed to come out and

(18:44):
docks the lady and say she like, bro, just relaxed,
let them people handle it, and then you in media
feed that ship to somebody else on media.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Pass it all man, you in media. But but like
you said, it's like I was, I was eating up
on his situation, like took me by surprise, man. And
then not only that, but check out how to play gold.
Just say Tuesday shining, shut up about them, bark on
a deal. Yeah, and Wednesday here come up.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Half.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
You see how they play the game, don't you see
how it's set up. It's like, hey, it's like okay.
Her lawyer knew the play, he worked on, so when
that start, he knows we're gonna come in and do this.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
And and ruin the whole. I guess what that play
probably off the table, off the table.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
And not only did it ruin the future play that
was on the table, which is the honey menion, it
also took me off ESPN.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
So it's the money up I.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Was currently getting all the way around. Man, he lost
all way around.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
You want the young white girl, man, listen, bro like
bro like, y'all got y'all preferences.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
But I'm telling you, at fifty five, you think the
nineteen year old this is you got to be swiff man.
And know what I'm saying, you ain't swift if you
thinking I'd have met this broad at the at the gym,
and in two weeks I met her house choking out.
You know what I mean beds and it don't work.
She's doing this with a motive.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Brother, you know, you know it's traps out there man.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Man. And at the end of the day, like you say,
you fit the fine, you gotta be looking like man.
That that that that's that's your daughter. Damn there.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Bro. You feel me.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
But once again, man, one thing I was always taught,
humble yourself or life would do it for you. Man,
You feel me a lot of revolve and revolt back
to being humble man, humility.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Man, you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
You know, like dude do ever since Cat did this thing, Dude,
dude just been different when the small stuff. Man, you
feel me like Cat turned him up. Man after that, man,
hold the mean and like when I heard about it,
I didn't pay attention when I read about it, I said,
nineteen years.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I guess what he'll never recoup from that, bro, Because.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
You can't explain the age gap. It tells me that
you don't. You know what that tells me is that
you're you're so you're such a slave to your craving. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. And you can never fall
victim to your cravings, bro, because you're gonna always lead
you to a bad place, right because you.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Think I don't want to Bro.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
You might want to freaking do this, but I got
to do it a certain way. And when you're doing
bdsc I and you worth something, Yo, I gotta have
history with this girl.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I can't just meet it at the.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Gym and thank in my mind or I hit the
jackpot game and it ain't how this works. Then then
you know, like I used to tell a coin man,
I tell my baby boy this all the time. Understand this, man,
decisions that you make don't only affect you. Man, think
about it. If you're looking out for family members, Bro,

(21:53):
I ain't telling my money. They may have been working
with you. They could have been employed. You feel actually
doing actually working for the money, not seeing you giving
it to us. But let's just say he got kids.
Imagine the impact that the kids have to deal with
because of these type of decisions. Yes, and now, Man,
when you look at it, you just be like, man,
I'm like, damn, I saying it for real.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Craziness. But let's get back to Quorn though.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
What when Quorn passes financially, where is he at and
how moving forward do the family do you guys distribute
the funds. Is there like a trust that the kids
pulled from? What is the scenario for Corn? And it's
a stake.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
When Quorn passed, man Coorn was in great financial shape,
Like I don't play the radio with the money man, right,
you feel me? Real structure, real discipline, O. Corn had
good lord, have mercy money what I call it? You
feel what I'm saying. As far as his finances, man,
I know what Corn would want and Corn would say, Dad,

(22:57):
make sure my kids straight.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
You follow me?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
The numeral number one priorty in my life, man is
to carry out what Corn would want for his kids.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Man, which are my grandkids? And follow me?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Make sure they have trusts, make sure they have education funds.
Make sure they understand, you know what they're about to
embark upon. Make sure that you know hopefully they go
to school, continue their education. But as far as like
the finances and stuff, man, his kids are going to.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Be in a great situation. Great situation. Right. And so
we saw also.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
RP take off the untimed demise of him, but his
shit kind of went into a probate or he didn't
have a living will?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Did Quorn have one? Didn't have a living will either.
But the way we had things, structure is not going
to be as difficult as a task because at the
end of the day, it's for the kids. Man.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Corn had five kids, Man, Koran didn't have a wife,
he didn't have a will, he didn't have anything in righting, Okay,
but the reality is his keydsaw, his next a king,
and the right that makes sense, they'll make sense.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, they're his next a king. Right that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, and one has kids from seventeen to four years old.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right, okay, so he wanted a couple of them should
be getting old enough soon to be able to kind
of wreak some of the benefits from what they father left.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Them, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
As far as the education or whatever you have going
for him, no doubt. But damn man, So did the
state get involved with that? Does the state get to
take in because what I what I've heard about takeoff,
what I've read in reports online, is that because he
didn't have a living will, I think millions of dollars
ended up routed to the state just out of some

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kind of it was a percentage number, but because he
was worth so much that percentage. It wasn't a cap
on the number, right, So you would think if they
say fifty percent, but you're getting twenty five hundred, so send.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Us to twelve fifty. That's one thing.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
But if they say fifty percent numbers twenty two million,
you wouldn't think.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That take left million dollars.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I don't let me tell you this, and I'll be
very honest and transparent. This is my first time dealing
with the probate court system. I'm learning as I go. Man,
you follow me. I have counsel that is expertise in
this field, so I trust in them to lead me
and give me the best advice. But one thing I
can say, man like I took for granted. You know

(25:26):
what I'm saying, I'll keep it a buck. Man Like
I thought my son would be burying me. Man, you
follow me. I never thought i'd.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
See the day that I'd be burying my son. Just
keeping it.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Real, Man, I thought I had time you follow me,
and realized didn't have. I had a lot of things
in order, But through my son's transitioning, which I like
to call it, I realized I got a lot of
loose things. I need to tighten up too, man, you
follow me. So things could have been tighter, but they're

(25:59):
not bad what I'm saying. And I know Coin's main
priort would be the kids and rest assure the kids.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Gonna be good, and that's the number one.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's the number one for him, Like I know, like
he want to make sure they straight. And I think
the things that we're putting in place going through the courts,
it's gonna benefit the kids. And hopefully, man make him
smile and say, pop, y'all did.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
For sure show that's dope. That's dope.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think with younger men and even with black men,
really men, nobody really wants to face the mortality like
and think about that death and how the casket needs
to be or how to finance and people just like
I don't want to talk about no depth. It's like
how niggas used to treat cancel or like a nigga
get a bump on their hand and man, man them

(26:47):
over there, you know what I mean. It's like they
don't want to approach your head on and that's a
critical mistake because you can be given literally giving away
half of what you worked all your life.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
And you know, I say this man to not only entertainers, raffles, actors,
just everyday people.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Man, take time, man to get your business in order. Man.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Right now, I'm in the process of doing a trust.
You know what I'm saying. A lot of times, Man,
we don't be educated to these things. You follow what
I'm saying, and you know, like sometimes like it takes
things of its nature, you know, in order for you
to get yourself together. Because like I heard of trust,
but even at fifty five, I hadn't really looked into that.

(27:31):
If I felt like I I felt like I had
a wheel, everything was cool. But nah, man, like a
trust would make things so much easier and the transition
would be so smooth for the family. And you know,
it's just we need to be educated on these things, man,
because if you ain't careful, like you said, brother, half
or more more of what you wait, all your life

(27:53):
will go back. I read an article one time. I
don't know how true it is, and I'm gonna share
it with you. When Prince passed, they said that this
man had had a compound thirty six people to thirty
eight people that daily, supposedly, and surprisingly, the day he passed,

(28:13):
he was there alone supposedly, man, he had won a
lawsuit for so many millions of dollars and got his
publishing back right from from Sony. Will come to find
out Sony had a one billion dollar insurance policy on him.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Brother, That's the thing. He wake up dead.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Look, they get all the publishing back and the billion
dollar policy.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Man, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Brou De rap niggas sometimes don't be knowing your label
might have a hit on you.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
That's how this spade a spade.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Sometimes you be worth more to somebody in depth than
you are alive. You know what I'm saying. But guess what.
We be so caught up in the the jury, the cause,
the girls, and guess what they'll put all.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
That on you.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Man.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, them get you in position to get this other bag.
We won't come home and listen, bro, this shit is
full d chest.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I tell I tell people all the time, Man, this
game and what you think is cracked.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Up to me.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Man, That's why I think that was a great question
for me to you was like from losing your son
or him transitioning, like how you view the rap game.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Did it swallow your son up? Did it kind of
you know what I'm saying, like I think, I think,
I think you know, the success and the darkness they
come with it.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Man, you follow me, you know, like I ain't got
the name name. Man.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
We was just thinking about some of the big boys
and where they at then and where they are mentally. Mentally,
That's why we were talking, man, Like, it's important, man,
to bring awareness to mental health facts upon my son's
that my son was in a dark space.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I got texts in my phone where I reached out
where his brother Dre was texting me concerned. Mone He
was texting me concerned people like, Man, that's your son. Hey, bro, listen,
porn was thirty four, he wasn't fourteen.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Right as a.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Dad, as a parent, as a mom. It's only so
much you can do, man, You follow me. But that's
why I'm telling you, like.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Try to get coin help.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, but you know the first step is that meting
I got a problem and I need some help.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It's hard to admit that with all the goddamn money.
Come on, man, that'd be the thing too.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
It's like, because when we come up, when we look
at a dope fiend or a crackhead, it's the motherfucker
out there.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
They can't get it together.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
They get they So you don't really see yourself as being.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Cousins to that, you know what I'm saying. You don't
see it because you're worth so much money, and so
do you feel any guilt with that? Do people try
to pass guilt of like, Yo, y'all kind of knew
he was on shit, pills or whatever he was doing, Like,
do you feel any.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Of that to a certain degree as a human? I'd
be lying if I say no. But at the end
of the day, and I can say this, and this
is not an excuse, my son never indulged in drugs
around me. You got to realize I'm his dad brother,
and I was a disciplinarian. I was strict structured, so
certain things I didn't see. I never saw corn popa

(31:21):
peel in front of me. I saw him smoke weed.
I saw him, But I know, but certain things I
never saw him do. But in my mind I knew
when he was higher than normal, and I would address
it with him.

Speaker 2 (31:38):

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I used to tell him like, hey man, whatever you're
going through in life, yo, I say't in a pill
about a look a bottom man. I used to tell
him that you feel what I'm saying. We used to have,
you know, conversations. I wasn't scared. I wasn't no yes
guy around here. You follow me because at the end
of the day, man, I know what hall at work
and grind and discipline and put my money up can
do for me.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
So I have to quote unquote kid, yes, lord, and
that's what we love. And I can feel that from you.
But that's what we love even with my kids. I'm
gonna be like that forever because you know I'm big,
I'm the final boss. Believe that I don't give a
damn if you go prod.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm the final.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And guess what, And guess what we had to kind
of understanding man like I don't care if you got
a three hund.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Or these big cord work six.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Guess what, man, you always respect me and I'm gonna
respect you. We're gonna have a mutual respect for each other.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Because at the end of the day, I used to
tell Corny and my other k man, listen these conversations
I have.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
They not for me, son, they for y'all. You feel
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
So do I have Like in hindsight, I be like,
maybe I could have done more, But at the end
of the.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Day, man, I did what I could do.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I don't have any ill feelings. I don't have any
remorse from my actions. If like I tell people, if
you see me upset because I missed dude in the flesh,
I don't have a guilty conscience where I could have
would a ship.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
No, none of that.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Because I gave him that in some of my life.
You feel what I'm saying, And I know he knew that.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
We used to laugh and he would always bring you
up whoever. He would talk with you, if you if
you was a real nigga, he would talk about his
daddy some way in that conversation.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
That was my man, That was my life. Like we
had a bun bro like like that's what I missed.
Like I ride my bike, Bro bicycle coin pass September
the fifth. I stopped riding my bike September the seventh.
I just picked my bike back up two weeks ago.
You know what was the hardest part of that ride
for me? Not talking to my son. We used to

(33:45):
talk in the morning, like you're on that bike, ain't Yes, sir.
But but we had them talks, and you know, he'd
be like, Dad, I love you, I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
You know what I'm saying. So I missed that. You
know what I'm saying. I missed.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I missed Like I was sitting there watching a basketball
game the other night and went to pick up the
phone and calling Bron. Sometime I think about in the
boxing game, these new up and coming boxes.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I don't know much about them.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Corn schooled me on all this, man, he he told
me about these young boy. Dad, he the truth. Man,
tell me you feel what I'm saying. I ain't know
nothing about old school, but you were boxing. But I
love boxing, man, and he used to school me on it.
But but one thing I'm forever grateful for. Man, we

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have some beautiful memories.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Right you follow me.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
And now that he's gone, Man, I didn't even know
how important pictures was until now, Man, you followed me.
I didn't realize how important that I love you as
a pop on won't And and I'm just letting you know
I appreciate you. Like sometime Bro. Later in I just
read them text messages.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Man, you follow me. It gives me a sense of him.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Still being now like like bro like, and I say
to our people, man, pay attention to your loved ones.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
You follow me even if it's uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
You know sometimes you got to have them uncomfortable conversations
to get comfortable.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
That's the fact, because guess what, man, I say this
man till my last days, this chair, I'm sitting there along.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I don't wish this's on nobody. It's rough. I mean,
I'm so much saying. Bro, Man, it's rough a few days.
We're gonna be eight months in. Brother. Listen, when I
was watching my grandson go to the prone the other.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Day and I was looking around and Corn wasn't there. Bro,
I'm fooling myself, you know what I'm saying. And coin
at the show you're trying. I'm trying to psych myself out,
you know what I'm saying. And it's life. I thank
the fans so much, bro Like. I honestly.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Didn't know the love, the respect that was displayed for
my son. Yeah. I was in oh man, Yeah, I
was in a legend. Bro. You raised a legend.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
That boy, that boy one of the most influential. And
I don't I'm telling you this Bro. That man was
one of the most influential artists of this generation. That
sound was not the sound of music. Them dudes single
handedly ushered in this melody type of flow.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
And then on.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Top of that, you could tell you was around because
when he got into it will fly with the business.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Hey, we stopped his hold on.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
That's how you can tell somebody is installing game in
this young man.

Speaker 2 (36:57):

Speaker 3 (36:58):
And so I'm telling you, Bro, you did a great
job with that. Boy man a legend.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I appreciate you've done that.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Bro, appreciate and when you lay down, know that I
did that one.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
You see what I'm saying. I did that one. Dog,
You know what I mean. Always that come from loom, Bro,
that come from me. Bro, You've done that one.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I appreciate that. I'm gonna say something.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
You just spoke on the t ig litigations and stuff, right,
must shout out fly again. Man.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
When when I.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Was making arrangements for my son, Fly met me over
at the church going over numbers and stuff, and I
got ready to go pay for the church venue. I
walked out in the hallway, Flyers already in the hall.

(37:48):
I said, where you going? He said, I got this, man,
you go back in there handle the rest of it.
I want to shout out, Fly, Man Fly. Before Corn
passed and after coins transition, Man Fly called me check
on my mental You know what I'm saying, how you feeling?
You know, how you day going? And you know we

(38:11):
developed a great respect and friendship for each other. Man,
And you know, I told him, Man, I appreciate you know,
the chance you took on my son.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I know things took off fast.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
And you know we were overwhelmed, but you know, through maturity, man,
and some praying, like we overcame that obstacle.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
And I shout out because dude stood in the paint
and went and spent the bag with me on my
son's homegoing Man, And that's that's we gotta commended. Like
you got to call an a SA center spade a spade,
you know, like you said, these labels make millions of
dollars off these kids, but won't even turn around and

(38:49):
send you a bucket of chicken when something and when
I say flowers there the whole way with me, Man,
making sure I was good, you know, and like I
heard a lot of my family, bro, So I know
how the process go. But this when he was a
bit overwhelming and Monday Day, they and Fly they were
all instrumental in bringing this home going together for me

(39:14):
because I wasn't in a space mentally to do it.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Really.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
But it's like, like, hey, man, we know what Corn deserved.
Corn's homegoing wasn't for flash or nothing. My son earned
that homegoing. Man, you follow me and shout out to
the team man for assisting me, Bro in one of
the darkest times of my life.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Man, burying sun is is so so so traumatic. Did
with the turnout at the funeral, did you feel like
that enough of the industry, the enough enough of the
rappers and stuff supported Corn like they shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
No.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I mean afterwards I paid attention to it, but that day, Bro,
I was so out of it it didn't matter. And honestly,
when I made the announcement that we were going public
with the funeral, it wasn't for the industry, man, it
was for those fans man that allowed my son to
be in places and spaces only he would have dreamed

(40:18):
of being. I have a big heart toward the fans.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Man. I don't get into the industry.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Catch you follow me because it ain't like if it
was somebody I was cool with.

Speaker 2 (40:30):

Speaker 3 (40:31):
But see, that's part of what had corned in the
dog space. It's this industry and them, not them. Not
when he were piping hot, niggas was hitting him and
he'll come right. He would come and always service some
or help him when he could. He did talk to
me about he had a time where he kind of

(40:51):
did get an arrogant bag and we were like ya,
nigga ain But for the most part, Bro would help
other rappers. And so when I speak about the industry,
it just also echoes the fact that it's just so
fake in this industry, Bro, where I can give you
a hit five years ago, and then because we ma
ain't talking eighteen months, you won't even check into my front.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Run right My point that you know, it's a scenario
where is like Loan if you and Mike going through it,
that ain't got nothing to do with Corey and Mike.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Ma'am understand that.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
But but but me being the man I am, I'm
gonna come in and try to help you and fix
it instead of put few on it.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
You fell what I'm saying. We got enough of that
going on?

Speaker 1 (41:34):
What what? What? Where are the people that say, hey, man,
let's sit these brothers down and and and you know,
you know what the elephant in the room be. Man,
when we're doing that, we leave so many bags on
the table. Man follow because of attitude, because of arrogance, ego.
You go like, Bro, you don't never sit down and
think about where you came from. You don't think about

(41:55):
when you ain't have what you all a pot to
pissing or wanted to throw it out? And man, when
you can late, I use example like this hill Man.
I never met Kobe, I never met Scheck. Rest in
peace Kobe. From what I understand, they didn't get along,
but they want championship together. Man, they want championship together.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
And at the end of the day, where does the.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
When does the division stop?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
So you basically what you're saying is you believe because
of the thug and quaw and ship it affected how
it affected corner on the street.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
It affected corner. I can only speak on Corn. Corn
wouldn't talk to me about it, but I know.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
My son it had a profound effect on his everyday life.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Man, I know it did.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Like like, let's let's call an as a center spade
a spade. Let's not you know, let's not play like
sugar colony. Nobody learned from that.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
At the end of the day, I lost a son,
brou These kids lost a father, r This mother lost
a son, This.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Brother lost a brother, This uncle lost a nephew.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Man, You follow me, So sometime I'd be like, man,
I wish he would have just went on with something else, man,
because you know what, there's a mean industry. Bru It's
like one day they praised you, and the next day
you ain't nothing. Because I'm telling you, man, And that's
part of success, is.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Backside, is that it'll take you so far up that
when it decided to drop you, it's a long way down,
you know what I'm saying. So if you fall off
a couch, you may not break nothing, but if you
fall off a building, you may die. So as high
as the industry brings you up. When I was talking
to Corn, I was like, yo, I know how you feel,

(43:55):
because you still rap good as a motherfucker, You still
fly as a motherfucker, still got the cause. But these
folks is trying to act like your music, ain't they
trying to like, no, look.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
You they box you out. Man.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
They caper NICKI bro my nigga, Like, let's let's just
keep it the book. They caper Nicki, Man. And you
know if Jada Kids got a song say it's a
nigga better than Joy and he just didn't get that
break off. You feel me. That's like sometimes I was
listening to coin mut the last night. Man, you're not
gonna tell me that one of the most lyrics niggas
you come across. Man.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Facts, But but but.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
It's like, you know, I got to be cool with
but I don't want him mad with me.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
So I can't come over there. I can't, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
But but but like at the end of the day, man,
I can't undo what's been done.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
You follow me.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I don't have no ill feelings, own hole, no grudges, man,
I just know Man at the end, man, like being honest,
that shit affected my son.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
He did.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Man, he's human and coin coin one coin one, no
hard cold nigga. He wasn't raised like that, good nick
He was emotional creature.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
You feel me, And no matter how he put on
to me, you I can imagine bro with him by
himself a like.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Like he the artist. If we see it, imagine he's
seeing it twenty.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Ten exactly, and then you gotta think he looking at
it like. Not only did me and Thug not continue
our relationship, but nigga, all these niggas out will fucking wishtart.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
The producers, the engineers, the VIDI, the DJ hold on
wall like, and that shit was affecting him broke.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I talked to him about.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
It, and I'm like, man, how do you get how
do you continue to push on that?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
My rapping ain't I'm still one of the best rappers, man,
do you know? Just keeping it a buck? Man?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Since we having this intimate conversation, where were times we
as a team carried that boy when he ain't had
a strength to carry hisself. We believe in him when
he didn't believe in hisself dog confidence, like when he
just was like, man.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm good some breach chasing this ship.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
But it was like, man, like mane teke dre me
day they even fly. You know what I'm saying, Man,
we still believe in you.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
We ain't gonna like like one thing I can say, man,
And I say this not because I was a part
of it. But I used to tell a Coin all
the time, man, whe thing, you're gonna have a profound
appreciation for your team, man, right, because there was time
bro we wanted it more than Coin man, Like, like, listen,

(46:37):
if he didn't have the support system he had, twenty
fourteen could have been I mean, twenty twenty four could
have been way earlier.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
You follow me because like like like holding them together.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, like we hailed him down, bro, We hailed them down, man,
even they like bro we sall knocked down drag outs
with Buddy Man because he was in a dog space,
you understand. And then like he would always say, y'all
don't know what I go through. Y'all ain't the artist. Hey, Man,
we with you regardless, We wit you regardless. But it's

(47:12):
just like you in your situation. You probably a time
you're like, man, you know what, but that shit with
cold how Nigga played this right, And I can understand
coin mentality towards certain things, But as a father, I'm
going with it through the end of time. You feel
me as your manager, I'm gonna be there to support

(47:34):
you and to.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Put you in positions. Man. But it was a lot
of time man like mentally, he just wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
They got him. They got your confidence. That's why I
try to tell niggas.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Like that, if they get your confidence.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, we were just talking about that we should do
with them, like you see that that that's a valuable word.
So it's like when we go back to our generation
and our people. Man, it's okay to raise your hand
and say I need some help. Like I told you, man,
I'm fifty five years old. I just raised my hand

(48:10):
and say I need some help. I see a therapist.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I told one of my partners, I see a therapy. Bro,
you do, I ain't gonna tell me. I don't care
who you tell. Man, I'm not embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
You understand. The nigga who ain't acknowledging should be embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Well, this is like what we're saying. When you are
a nigga that's taking in so much, you have to
dump it out somewhere.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Nigga, what you do with your.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Trash, take what anything you pile up, you got to
go get rid of that.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Something that's you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
You know like my mind setting now man, is that
like I got to release I got I got I
got to get some of this off me, man, and
going through therapy. It's before Look, it's before corn. Right,
I'm talking about childhood stuff that made me who I
am today. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
At some point, man, you had to learn how to
let go. Man.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
You you got to get off your dad. It wasn't
that you feel me. You got to get off somebody
else had to raise you. You because guess what you do?
You start caring that you affected innocent people that ain't
got nothing to do with, people that didn't cut it.
So it's like, Man, I'm gonna tell you one of
my biggest appocates for therapy man by my taping on
me for a few reals.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Man, yeah, shut out. He kicked that high level ship
like that. Hey hey, hey bro go see a therapist.
Bring got a lot on you. Yeah. And one day, man,
I just said, what did you find your therapy at?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Like you just found my therapist through my insurance provider,
through my insurance provider. And you know, I was kind
of queery at first, little nervous, didn't know what to expect.
You know, it was keeping some stuff and I just
told them. One that's saying I don't really not telling
you the truth.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
You're here to help me exactly, So Man, I just
start pouring in. It's dope.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I see I see her once a week, man, and
like I look forward to it now. Man.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
You know, like like.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
As you dumping the rest of the week, you take
it in. I'm taking it and it's like it's like, man,
it's like anything else. Man, pressure bus pipes. Man, you
know high blood pressure, alsus and you know stuff. Man.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
A lot of that come from word ration. Manr.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
You know, not not confide. You got to find somebody
to confide in.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Man, gotta dump this. I don't care who you is. Man.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Like like I read one time, dude say, if your
car check in, You're like, come on, you take you
to the shop. If your chest started her, you go
to the doctor. Well, if your mental ain't right, white,
you can't go get yourself. He They think your mental
can't be broken, but it can its man, I mean
September fifth, twenty twenty four, transition My whole life, Man,

(50:43):
my whole life took a turn. And guess what, bro
that ain't that ain't for the week?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Man?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Now that the week big journey to be on, Man,
you know what I'm saying, like like through my therapies. Man,
like you not go before I start talking about man,
I used to be at the cemetery self may.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Times a month.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I'm talking about man walking in this mausoleum, keeping it
real with you. Man walking in this mausoleum, walking up
the corn space and when I touch it, it move a
little bit, right, brother, so hurt want to just snatch
that mother? Come on, man, I just just want him
to say, pop, let's go. You feel me like, but

(51:25):
but but but you can't even do it all that
and you still got five grandkids, you still got businesses oversea,
you still got Corn's career, you still got you know,
projects you're thinking about. You got publishing stuff you're dealing with.
You're dealing with your last project you dropped. Then you
got grandkids. Then you got your life.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Yeah, and imagine that if you don't ever get to dunk,
imagine what you gonna take in and went and took in.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
That's your hid.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Right, that's a lot to just that's that's a lot
to put on a mother phone.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
And then you leave out of there and never dump
that again. Tomorrow, brother, listen, guess what you're gonna do.
You're gonna start blowing on innocon. People ain't got nothing
to do with it. Last Saturday, last Friday, my oldest
grandson prom. That's the happiest I've seen that kid since
his dad left outright. You spent all day Friday getting
him ready.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
For the prom.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Then Saturday Corn got a ten year old son had
a birthday, he turned eleven. Then Sunday I went to
church with my grandbaby to surprise. So you think about, brother,
that's a whole weekend consuming with grandkids. You follow what
I'm saying, and then at the end of the day,
you still trying to find some peace. When I see
my grandson Royal spinning image of coin man spinning image

(52:41):
hanging with me. About a month ago, he was laying
over there on the sofa, I said, roy you sleep,
He said, no, I'm on the phone Papa. I look
at him, man, he bowed up in a not just
like his dad, man of rhythm. And I look at
him sometime and I said, man, you raising Corn all
over again of time. And then when I see this kid,

(53:01):
he looking so sad. I'm like, let's sit down and talk. Man,
what's wrong? Papa, I just missed my dad. That's that's
a lot. That's just that. Guess what he got four
more than missing their dad. And guess what, Lune, I'm
missing their dad.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Whole family, just.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Brother, still in disbelief, man, still in shock, still in denial.
You followed them saying, like, Man, I sat with Ricky,
Ricky Smiley. You know he lost his son. Yes, yes, man,
it's like a salute the rick Man and like he

(53:45):
got a chap in his book said God will give
you double for your trouble.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
And he was talking about a scenario he lost his.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Son and God revealed him that he had two twins.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Didn't even know they were his.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Wow, when I said I one day, that just holler,
he said, pertaining to his son. And the test results
came back them two twins, was.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
He that's crazy. But like you say, God, that that
that that that rings true. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
But I wonder It's like I mean, I guess time
and and and and I just don't know how.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I don't have the words to make it through that stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
You never have, you know, and even through therapy, Man,
just keeping them the buck with you, and it's still
a fear.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
That I have.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I'll be honest, one of my biggest fears now. Man,
for me, it's more than myself to death. Man, I'm
just being honest, transparent.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
That's really like, bro, Like, how do you move on.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
With something you've been attached to for the thirty four years?
And I'm not talking about no no, no dropping dad.
I've been with Corn from his birthroom to the graveyard. Man,
you feel me like, Bro, We've had our ups and downs.
We guess what, it's my son. Yeah, I got texts
I read probably two three times a month, and and

(55:21):
and and my my, my, my suffering and my grief
is different because I can play a song and hear
my son you know what I'm saying, or you can
cut up. That's why I took a break from Instagram.
People were showing me so much love and I'm grateful

(55:42):
for that, but it.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
But it slows down my heeling process.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And not only are meeting my family hurting, whereas people
across the United States hurting because of my son's transition.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
And you be like.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
God, I thank you in spite of it. Man, I
always thank God because I know that Corn was blessed.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Man.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I know he was gifted, you know what I'm saying.
And to see the people that he has touched, now
it touches me, man like brum out of about. I
went to get a tagged the other day. When the
I pay the money, got the tag, the lady said,
you strong. I said, excuse me, She said you strong?

(56:29):
I said, you know me? She said, you Coin Daddy.
I said yes, ma'am. I said I'm not strong. I said,
just appear that way. I said that. Man up, there's
my strength, I said, ma'am. There are days well I'd
be so weak. Man, I don't know what to do.

(56:50):
But doing them times. Man like God stepped in and
he reminds me that Coin's time down here was complete. Man,
his job was done. And they go back to a
sermon I heard years ago. It's a passer here. Aint
Timothy Fleming. His son got killed in a car accident.

(57:13):
You know what, the son he preached the sermon. You
know what the sermon was. What? Now I know how
God feels losing his son. And now I know, man,
And not only that. I got a brother that was
traveling with corn and stuff. I lost him eighteen months

(57:34):
for corn pass damn my baby brother. Yea, so it's
like damn, It's like yeah, it's like RP the meat Man,
Like I raised him as my son. When corn first started,
I put him with corn. He was my eyes for me,
feel me, he was my eyes. I know he genuinely

(57:55):
loved his nephew, and his nephew loved him. You follow
what I'm saying, sot, tim. Then my middle brother had
a massive stroke before, probably a month or so before
my baby brother passed.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
And then a year and a half late, I lose
my son. And that's what you mean by mourning yourself
to death. And this is a very important conversation, bro,
because you a lot of people, you know, they say
death come in through reason, all these different things. So
what happens is you can find yourself in their feedback
loop of.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Just sad, sad, sad sad.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
You got to intentionally put some happy in now there
you go, But then what is happy?

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Now? Now? I got to redefined happy?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
And then then you know what, like right now in
my life, happiness or a smile is temporary right now? Man,
you follow me, I need to learn how to get
back to some permanencyn you feel it's temporary right now,
because I'm always reminded that. You know, me and Coryn
used to say we always got so we all we got?

(59:07):
And he gone, right, what do we get?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
What do I gain? Feel so?

Speaker 3 (59:12):
But but I think it's it's about perspective. So and
it's gonna take time. It ain't something you're gonna be
able to do. Just like all right, I'm changing how
I'm viewing this, But at some point the rubber has
to meet the role where we go from from missing
him to celebrate right where It's like when I do
get a tag from a fan, it don't hit me

(59:34):
while I make me missing, it makes me remember celebrate
that he done that.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
We've done that leader salute, We've done that, you know.
But that's gonna take time.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
But you have to be intentional with trying to like
curve that, you know what I'm saying. Mother got to
curve that because you're gonna have an emotion when you
see him for the rest of your life. But you
gotta choose which path do I need to go with
this or can I dictate it right now?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
It's too strong, it's overpowered. I can't even dictate it
the other way. But any event, when I get that
opportunity to start seeing my son and instead of mourning him,
celebrating because God.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Does have a final sake, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
You know, Like, and one of the things, like I think,
what keep me going is that I'm reminded this is temporary.
I understand we get caught up in and thinking it's
fail right, And I'm a firm believer that sometimes God
come get certain people to get our attention to let
you know, get comfortable out of here on earth. Yes,

(01:00:40):
because this ain't your final destination. And like I said,
I know I see him again, and like I have
a little science man, Like I woke up one morning,
I looked up and I just saw him smiling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Bro right, you feel me?

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah, So like I get science to here in a
better place. And when he transitioned and I had to
go to the hospital and I saw him, it was
a peace on him I hadn't seen in a minute, man. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So so like I I
see some light at the end of the time. You

(01:01:14):
following first it was real dog.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
And it's hopefully you'll you'll continue to walk towards the
light and it gets brighter and brighter.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
See Like, I want to use the platform man, to
just help others. You feel what I'm saying. Like my
partner said, bro, what you're gonna do next? I said, Bro,
I just want to help others.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Man, I just want to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Bring mental awareness, depression, you know, things a month. Let
our men know it's okay to discuss them things. And
you ain't got to discuss some on platform. Just talk
to somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Dump. You've got to dump this ship because like you said,
or not, man, she's gonna explode one day, man, and
and nobody's excluded from that nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
I want to ask you this too. Didn't you ever
meet young Thug? I met Thug before?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
So did you have a personal relationship with just In Passing?
No early early on in their careers. We had a
personal relations Okay, cool? Cause, like I said, man, like
I tend to stay out of certain things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Don't want to be like you know, too overbearing to
overprotected me. I'm staying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
You know, it's just like you have kids, man, one
day they gonna walk out that door without you. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yes, you pray and hope everything go all way? You know,
I give you the tools you give you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah, yeah, And I feel like, like, not only on
thug side, but quanto Bro's attitude and egos. Man, Yeah,
you know, like thug Daddy reached out to me big Jail, Yeah,
Big Jim off of the conversation. But let's try to
bring these boys back together. But the attitudes and ego
we wanted it, but the attitude and egos we tried,
Bro for.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Real, what year was this recently or when they first
kicked y'all was trying to get in the middle of
the product.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Now it was some years it went by, and Jeff
restocked to me like, man, Jeff on the top to
you and I called, and yeah, he was like, man,
let's try to bring these boys back together. But the
attitude and egos was so big we couldn't do it right.
But but but as father as we attempted, man, we
didn't turn a blind eye to it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
I wanted to find a resolution, man. You followed me like,
at the end of the day, we couldn't come to one.
But but me and Jeff did try, right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
I seen because Doug just had his interview with GQ
and he spoke on Rich Homie Kwan. Yeah, So basically
they asked him what was his relationship with Kwan after
you know, he has died, and what was his relationship
and what happened with the Rich Gang era, And Thug
basically said that it was Rich Homie Kwan's decision not

(01:03:46):
to want to continue to kind of do the music,
but he and then he said that for him it
didn't matter, he would have kept doing the music because
they were still dropping solo projects or something. And he
framed at the end it basically said, sometimes we make mistakes, and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
What's your thoughts on just that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
So some of my thoughts on that hindsight, being a dad,
being a protector, loum, I was instrumental in that, okay.
And the reason I was instrumental is because it was
a lot of paperwork that wasn't completed, man, you understand,

(01:04:31):
and had conversations with Bird in regards to the paperwork,
and we were gonna do this and do that and
never got taken care of. And I knew, like I
understand Thug being an artist, like, hey man, I'm just
gonna do the music. I understand that. But at the
end of the day, I wanted them to do the
music right. But I just wanted them to be compensated

(01:04:51):
and I wanted them to have their fair splits as
far as you know, the music was concerned. And you know,
like when you see songs doing all these big numbers
but it's not being accounted for the proper way, that's
when my responsibility as a manager and a dad come in, like,
hey man, these boys got some special let's just handle

(01:05:13):
this right and we could go on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
But when this one being handled, I had the advice
quin step away.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
You know what I'm saying, like, hey man, like the
business ain't being handled. And you know, Kawan only spoke
about that on my platform in detail. He really got
into the bird Man and what you talked about, like
the numbers and yo, the paperwork wasn't right, man, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
The split wasn't right. And then we did get into
the release of a lot of the records they've done.
It was like start to leak it from some of
those engineers, which devalues you know, the project in a
tremendous amount. But but yeah, I think I think, do
you do you think you made the right decision with that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I stand on because I stand on business man I
stand on business. I mean like and even like when
me and Fly talked about the T I G litigations,
But I never asked for nothing that wasn't in black
and white.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Honor what's already.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Just honor what's here, bro, That's all I'm saying, Just
to count to us in a timely manner.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Yes, not not not, but but.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
You know, like when when when you have artists, they
so into the hoopla they ain't think about the real bags.
But me, being a man of numbers, Hey man, listen, Corn,
you can have that show money, but I'm trying to
solidify you and your kids future.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
With this other money.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
That's the real When your body stopped moving.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
No more, that's them deposits coming in for the rest
of your kids life.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
You know i'derstand so so do I regret it? No,
not at all what I do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Listen, man, I was raised by a man. Yeah, And
if you and I told con this, were not going
through this for t I G. For for whatever reasons,
the motive you may have. We're standing on the paperwork
that you signed. And guess what if I'm asking you

(01:07:14):
to honor your responsibilities, it's only right that I asked
T I g to it a way, that's all it was, bro.
And it was the same way with the rich gang situation.
I just wanted the paperwork, right because I know in America, brother,
it ain't even black and white. What did you have nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah? You just talking that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
You just talked like I can't do nothing without paperwork,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
And guess what?

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
And that was your that was your that was your
approach in this business, which is the label's approach.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
They gonna have you to sign one hundred piece of document, Bro,
And guess what we get upset if you don't say,
let me go get a few days to go over that.
I want to understand when I'm signing. All I wanted
was an understanding because like, I didn't think that that
I would be responsible for that my grandkids being okay,
the rest of their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
So guess what.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
That's why that was did back then for a time
like now, right, That's what the universe is perfect?

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Believe that. Do you see what I'm saying? See how
the universe is perfect? Bro? You were fighting for.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Something you knew his kids were gonna need before you
even knew this was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
That's what And guess what that man, Listen, it wasn't
that's all it was. Man. I was doing what I
thought was right for my kids, kids kids, and for
the work that Coyn had put in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I don't do nothing what I pay for work now, man, Yeah,
I only care if I'm buying a car because I
know I know what it can do and what it
can't do. You follow me, So do I have interview?
You don't have to honor anything but your paper that's
got to put it on that you got to, man.
So no, I don't have no regrets. Man, gonna get whatever.

(01:08:57):
The chips fail, they fail.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
And at the end of the day, I lost my
son September fifth, right, but I can tell.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
You this long they kid lived the life that people
dream Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Yeah, now he lived like a rock starck and and
I told him not only him, family and friends.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
He allowed us.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Man, to see some things we probably never would have seen. Yeah,
he would We never would have will to meet some
people probably never wouldn't have missed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
You follow what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
So it's like it's it's deep when you look at
the overall picture.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Man. And at the end of the day man long as.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
He rest, and Bro, not for sure, for sure, for sure,
that's dope, man. I think it's I think. I think,
like I said, he left a good legacy. He left,
you know, he left a lot of great music. He
brought in this. I'm telling you how important it was
that helped the South take the whole entire music business, Bro,
because it was up north and all that. When them
niggas started mumble, they tried to call him mumble rappers.

(01:09:59):
That was their way of tru The.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Nigga stopped listening to that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
They ain't really saying them nigga kept pushing the line
that type of way when so goddamn crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
It changed music. It was him. I will never forget
that eraror type of way it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Cash Shout had a record, Theres the Shad had a
record this when they was ushering in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
That singy because it was new. It was like rappers
singing now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Man, that changed the entire infrastructure of music. And it
was thug and it was all these different dudes. And
then you started to see fruit off those trees with
the little babies and h you know, it continues the
go and the hunt Schos now off the little baby tree.
It's like it's just feeding. It was just it was

(01:10:46):
just so so much happening. Bro, That bro really shook that.
Did you ever meet Big Nut?

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Yeah, so you did.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
I knew Nut. My ex wife sister was nuts step mother,
so that was that's done. His wife, his dad, So
so I knew that when he was much younger. You
follow me and I met him a few times over
at t I G and like, man, one of the
coolest laid back guys I ever met.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Man, You follow me. I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
I ain't know nothing about what Nut had follow I
didn't because every time I seen he's so respectable.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
We sit down and chopped it up, had great conversation,
great dialogue. You know, used to be talking about corn
and loochie and stuff. And like when I found out,
like I wouldn't have never knew if nobody had.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
A told man like he wasn't he But that's how
we usually live.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
That's why you know that a lot of rapper guys
are acting, because when they popping it so much, that's
that Ain't that ain't that ain't that ain't what's really
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
What I mean? That ain't gonna get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
So anything you want to lead the people with, man, look,
just keep the family and prayer. Man. I appreciate you know,
the fans and everybody that you know still supporting my son,
still reaching out to me, letting me know that you
know you're thinking about me, because you know usually have

(01:12:15):
them two three months. Man, you be by yourself. Well
you know it's at the end, So I mean, continue
to keep us in your prayers. Man, I'm gonna do
everything in my power to keep his legacy going. And
it is what it is. Man, Thank you, man for sure.
Let me and I got one. I got a few
more questions because right here more three is still dropping music.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
He's been.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Passed away, I think for a couple of years now.
I don't want to misquote the actual year, but how
much more music does Rich Homie Korn have and how
many more projects or any documentaries any you know, pieces
of content, pieces of work that the fans can be
looking forward with you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
For most definitely, Man, Korn probably got a couple thousand songs.
But y'all to understand with me and the team being structured,
how it's structured, you know, it's levels, it's things.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
We have to do before we can release this music.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Like, I don't want to release music and have all
kind of obstacles after we've released it. So the plan
is the most definitely continue to drop music, continue to
build his legs, and yo, we got a documentary that
we're fine tuning. Now we got to fine tune it
to bring it out. So it's still a lot a
lot of music left behind by Rich homing Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Are you looking at the most three business model? Which
is all right, more three you know, transitions with all
this music on the hard drive.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Now, what we do as the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Team, we still go work these records, meaning, hey, take
one verse off of that who's the hot wrapper the baby?
Hey the baby, jump on this one. Pay him for
his feature, and now this is our record. This still
go to his kids. He may be not here to
you know, actually go and performing and stuff, but we're
adding to the catalog.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Well that that scenario, that's a team question. But if
I had to speak on it, because what we do
we move together. You know that somebody on the team
they say, yeah, that's a great idea. But I go
back to the game. Man, It depends on how you
want to play the game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Do you want to? I think when I think.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
About decisions, I still think about it if Korn was
still here and what his thoughts would be on this process.
As far as spending money on features, Man corn music
so pure and organic.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I'm just letting people hear him man, And.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Then it ain't necessarily because some of these niggas should
do it for because Corn is who he is, right.
But what I meaning is, you're gonna find yourself in
a scenario where your job now becomes to maximize the
exposure of the record exactly. You see what I'm saying,
because you want be making new money, and at some

(01:15:03):
point you can get in a situation where his fans
kind of get dormant a little bit and you may
have to pull, you know, someone that's moving out there
a little bit to just help with the visibility part
of it. You know what I'm saying. I think more
three of them has done a really good job.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
He just did a song with Tory Lanes, right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Those little things, I'm telling you, they help maximize the visibility.
And then also if the business is right, it's just
like a solo song, and you know you're gonna get
the business right, so it ain't gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Be no loose ends. They need to be tied up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
But what I'm saying is your job changes because when
in the streaming era and it's search engine era right
versus people grabbing CDs, you have to continue to have
people searching for quorn three years from them for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
And another thing you brought up a good point. Another
thing you have to realize, Man, their tension spans so
short now, so like if you ain't there, they gone
on on something, you know what I'm saying. So basically
going back to the team, I genuinely handler the business
as far as song selection, and you know what they
want to do as has features, money, dre you know,

(01:16:14):
the DJ's tank will have their input and if they
you know, say hey man, we think we should go
with this and they want to do it, I'm with.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
It, man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
And that's just me giving some game as to you
know what I'm saying, Because you got the rest of
your pack, you gotta you gotta put a little cut
in it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
You know what I mean, You got got your you
know what i mean. I'm just saying, keep to keep
the block roll, no doubt, not talking to you see
now later on today I go do some research.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
I want three They've been smoking it and did it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I'm talking about single singles and they're grabbing other artists.
That's still moving right now, momentum right now, because it
ain't about the song. It's literally about the kids and
maximizing the impact.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Of this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
He done done what he wanted to do far as
like now, I leave that one now from now, it's
about the little one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Let's button this ship up. You know what I'm saying, Like,
so that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
As I'm watching, I'm saying, oh, because see, nobody else
been able to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
You'll die out. Look at pop Smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Pop Smoke was one of the biggest artists in the world.
No one is searching for that right now. And that's
the problem. You take some of them old songs Pop Smoke,
here go based Swag, which is a rising New York artist.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
You mass that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
You see what I'm saying, and that now takes his
active fan base and hopefully go You know what I mean,
And it's just a constant putting a little cut on him,
trying to make it lock up, no doubt, I mean
the same way the same. One coin is how people
are reaching out for features. They're trying to They're trying
to get their ship to lock up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
They don't. They trying to bro this ship, you know
what I mean. So we can just tossed you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
I mean yeah, So that's all I'm saying. Man like
me being an old school See, I need to hear conversations. Yeah,
because you know, I'm laid back. I'm chill man. So
like like when I leave, like for I finish getting
the group message. Bro, y'all want to pick a song,
Let's find a feature, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
And it's gonna go and tell you and then it's
gonna make the fans. It's gonna make their fans. It's
just it's a marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
It's you're not you're not playing the traditional music business.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
You're playing the algorithm be there. So it's a different
business you play, you know what I'm saying. That's why,
that's why I'm always in debt at the little baby
because soon he do his role. I interview with me,
it jumped my algorithm, and it ain't even if you
don't give me a dollar, fuck the money.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Them niggas just dromp your algorithm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Up to the top.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
That's what you that's how they pay with their eyeballs
that you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
See what I'm saying. The presence.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Yeah yeah, so that's something I would I wanted to
put under you like appreciate doing the team, Yeah definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Also one more thing, so that the nine one one
call came out for the fans who do not know
what is the official cause of death of rich onen Korn.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
The official cause of death was overdose. Overdose.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Okay, and understand this, and I was educated on this.
You can drink some robotuesting and you could take a
time and all you and if you die, it's gonna
be classified overdose because there were two forms.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Of medication drugs or whatever in your system. I didn't
know that. Yeah, that's what had.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
It was marijuana, It was quote unquote of fake pill,
and it was some codeine. So so that that was
that was That's why it's labeled overdose.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
They did they ever arrest anybody about the quote unquote
fake No, No, nobody's been arrested. That's crazy because I'm
sure like in my time they going to rest for and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Guess what I'm not resting. Yeah, they want to wrestle
them all about that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Like when you when when you see out in Hollywood
when these folks next thing, you know, sh two weeks
they got.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Somebody Macklamore died, they arrested that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
I've been I've been I've been pressing that, man, you follow,
I've been pressing that, like like I'm on it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Yeah, because that's you don't I mean, you know, like
if you I tell these dudes in the street, man,
y'all can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Don't do that bro. Don't do that one. Bro, don't
do that one. I don't care which one you're working.
Don't work that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
One, bron, And don't do that one. Man. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
So, but what was interesting because before you got here
and we'll close up after this. So I ended up.
I was listening to something with rich On mccorn in
the nine one one call came up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
What it was that his girlfriend baby?

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
So it says that she seen him on the couch
and she left and then she came back or she
put a cover on them or something. There was a
series of events, a sequence of events that she didn't
notice anything wrong and then she came back. Has you
and her had a conversation about that day and what's
your understand.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Most definitely what you gotta realize they there with him
every day, you follow me, quote unquote, could have been normal.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
You know, I try not to look at the bad man.
I try not.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I try not to stereotype. I try not to pass judgment.
You know what I'm saying. There were a lot of
things I wish could have been done different that morning.
You follow what I'm saying, But I really think it's
just a face for Bridges took it for granted.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
You know, he'll be He'll be, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I'm gonna get in the bed when I get up,
he'll wake up or whatever. Like his brother Dre told me,
he said, I thought man by me taking the truck
to the shop corner takes me and be like Drake,
how I get on the sofa because Drake put him
on the sofa?

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Did you see what I'm saying? So I think I
think it just be man like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
You know, them folks been together forever, man him, and
and they seen him in these probably just like you
know here buck back or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
You feel what I'm saying. So in regards to that, like, man.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
When is your time? It's your time, man, you know, like,
ain't nothing nobody can do. Man, you know we we
be thinking like what a could have water?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Should have? You know, when it's your time, Like, it's
your time, and you really.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Can't spend a lot of time in could have water,
should have laan right because like I was saying, that
time well spent is in the future when it deals
with resolution.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
The past deals with trauma and what's already took place.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Fixing it deals.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
With the future. And see I was raised. Man, I
don't focus on the problem. I try to focus on solutions.
You follow me, And the solution is how do we
prevent once again from somebody else sitting in this chat
that I'm in r And that's and that's bringing awareness
on platforms like this. Yes, you know, just telling people
he man, pay attention manah because one thing I know,
and that's ceementy in me smiling faces tell lives. Man,

(01:23:00):
for sure, you follow me, for sure, motherfucker be smiling.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Blow his brains out. Man, Like I said, you you
were not here to dissect everything. But if you have
that feeling man, reach out man. Yeah, you know that's
that's the most important message I got out of my
son's transitions. Bringing awareness, man, and trying to help somebody
man who who may be going through it, who done
been through it and probably don't face it one day.

(01:23:28):
You feel what I'm saying, So like it's like I
don't I don't point fingers, man. I just know that
my faith and that man know everything. And I'm a
firm believer that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
What if you do in the dark, it'll come in
to life, come to you. You get by, you don't
get away, That's right. That's all I would say. That's
what you get by, but you don't get away, that's
real sure, man. But I thank you for having this conversation. Man.
Like I said, my heart goes out to you. You
got my number. Anything you need, I'm always with you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Like anything in the documentary, if y'all need my what's
y'all need to overlapped over double, anything y'all need, I'm
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Whenever he dropped music, shoot it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
I'm splashing it to the platform, you know. And this
is why I was saying, it's important that black platforms
and artists and business that we work together because GQ
is not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Once a motherfucker pass away, they gonna move on.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
Yeah, so we gotta we gotta lift each other up
and stay by each other. Man, And my heart goes
out to you. You have a long journey ahead of you,
my nigga, but you've done that. You've done that with
your son. You raised a legend and you know, like
I said, my heart goes out to you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Thank you, man. Appreciate you for having me man and
vice versa.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Anything you need from me or if you feel like
I gotta connect, you need my phone open.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Whatever I can do to enhance you and build you
up and keep you propelling, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
For you, Bro. I appreciate that. Ball love. Thank you
so much, Bro,

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