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August 25, 2025 85 mins

Rich Homie Quan’s Father Explains Cause of Death & 911 Timeline—Young Thug, Birdman, Paperwork & ATL Politics (Part 2) Rich Homie Quan Father: 911 Call & Overdose Truth | Young Thug, Birdman, Rich Gang Paperwork Pt 2 Rich Homie Quan’s Father Breaks Down Rich Gang Paperwork, Birdman Splits & Young Thug Peace Attempt In this deeply emotional Part 2 of our exclusive interview with Rich Homie Quan's father, we dive into the most personal and revealing conversations about losing his son, the music industry, and preserving Quan's incredible legacy. 💔 What's Inside This Powerful Interview: The heartbreaking truth about Quan's official cause of death (overdose explained in detail) His father's raw grief journey - 8 months of pain and healing The real story behind the Rich Gang era and relationships with Young Thug Industry support (or lack thereof) during the funeral and aftermath Quan's massive unreleased music catalog and future projects Documentary plans currently being fine-tuned The impact on Quan's 5 children and family Mental health awareness and the dark side of success How the team is preserving and building Quan's legacy 🎵 Key Revelations: Quan had "a couple thousand songs" in his catalog The business model for posthumous releases Industry relationships and who really showed up The 911 call details and investigation status Quan's influence on modern hip-hop's melodic sound 💭 Most Emotional Moments: Father's bike rides without his morning calls with Quan Visiting the mausoleum and touching his son's space Grandson Royal being "spitting image" of his father Reading old text messages from Quan saying "I love you Pop" The journey from mourning to celebration This interview isn't just about music - it's about family, grief, mental health, and the responsibility of carrying on a legend's work. Quan's father shares intimate details about their relationship, the challenges of the music business, and how he's navigating life without his son while ensuring Rich Homie Quan's impact lives forever. 🙏 Support Mental Health Awareness - This conversation highlights the importance of checking on your loved ones and addressing mental health in hip-hop culture. 🔔 SUBSCRIBE for more exclusive interviews and real conversations that matter. 💬 Share your memories of Rich Homie Quan in the comments below. His music touched millions, and his legacy continues through stories like these. 🔗 Connect With Us: Follow for more exclusive content: [Social Links] Previous interviews and content: [Website Link] Rich Homie Quan Forever 🕊 #RichHomieQuan #HipHop #Legacy #MentalHealth #MusicIndustry #Atlanta #Interview #Documentary Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO 0:00 - Introduction and Opening Remarks 2:15 - Rich Homie Quan's Mental Health Struggles 5:30 - The Dark Space: Understanding His Son's Pain 8:45 - Rich Gang Era: Behind the Business Decisions 12:20 - The Split from Young Thug: Paperwork & Protection 16:10 - Thug's Recent GQ Interview Response 19:35 - Team Support During Quan's Lowest Moments 23:50 - Official Cause of Death Revealed 25:40 - Father-Son Bond: Bike Rides & Daily Conversations 29:15 - Grief Journey: Seven Months Later 32:45 - Therapy and Mental Health Awareness 36:20 - Cemetery Visits and Healing Process 40:10 - Grandchildren Coping with Loss 43:55 - Financial Legacy and Estate Planning 47:30 - Unreleased Music: Thousands of Songs Left Behind 51:15 - Documentary Plans and Future Projects 54:40 - Mo3 Business Model Discussion 57:25 - Fly's Support During Funeral Arrangements 60:50 - Message on Mental Health Awareness 64:15 - Final Thoughts and Tribute to a Legend 67:30 - Closing Remarks and Call for Support

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And when he transitioned and I had to go to
the hospital and I saw him, it was a peace
on him.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I hadn't seen you in a minute, man, So that
the nine one one call came out for the fans
who do not know what is the official cause of
death of rich onman Korn. The official causes there was overdose. Overdose. Okay,
I need an amblance tell me exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
My boyfriend. He's been sleep on the couch and I
put a cover over him because he gets a little cool.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
And he's in the living room.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
And now I just checked on him because I see
he never got up, and I don't see him, believe,
and I don't feel a heart beat. Now I say
this man till my last days. This chair, I'm sitting
there along. I don't wish just on nobody. I'm so
much saying brother and rough brother. A few days, we're
gonna be eight muchs in.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Listen, when I was watching my grass and go to
the prone the other day and I was looking around
and doing what this.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm fooling myself, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Else But I've seen like mail on over floor, like
he had knocked over something like he was trying to
get somewhere to sit down.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I don't know. Did you ever meet young Hug.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I met Thug before, Yes, I did, early on in
their careers. We had a personal relation. Okay, cool, But
like I said, man, like I tend to stay out
of certain things. Do want to be like, you know,
too overbearing and overprotecting what I'm staying like not only
on thugside.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Becoring too brother attitude and ego.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, you know, like thug da restot to me, big jail, Yeah,

(02:02):
big Jeff off of the conversation. But let's try to
bring these boys back together. But the attitudes and ego
we wanted it, but the attitude and egos we tried.
Bro it was some years it went by and Jeff
restopped to me. Try to MATAI like, man, Jeff, want
to talk to you. And I called him and he
was like, man, let's try to bring these boys back together.
But the attitude and egos was so big we couldn't

(02:23):
do it. But but as father as we attempted, man,
we didn't turn the blind eye to it.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know what I'm saying. I wanted to find a resolution. Man,
You followed me like at the end of the day,
we couldn't come to one, but but me and Jeff
did try. What's happening to y'all? This is loan from
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(04:20):
the show. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, your Nate right when I said man locked that
in part yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
See what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, And that was like your platform was people know,
yeah people.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And now it's like it's all incoming. Like I was
telling our heart yesterday, I'm like, I really don't be
doing out out going bookings no more. It's like incoming,
which is a great sign for the business, you know
what I'm saying. But I still have specific conversations I
want to have with scientists and like I'm going somewhere

(04:52):
else with this, and I'm taking the culture with me.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
See that's the thing, you see, You're you're taking up
us to things we thought over, things that some kids
probably dreamed about.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
You follow what I'm saying. Like I used to have a.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Lot of respect for and still do for Frank Skith
when he had his his like like like the Aerospace
County had. You know, like a lot of inner city kids, bro,
we just hear about that in school. They don't get
a chance to do that. So so like when you
embark on your next levels, like you said, the main thing, bro, listen,
I'm taking the culture with me. It's called exposure. Man,

(05:27):
I'm exposing them to things brou that they probably never
even thought of.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And then it might be a kid to be like,
you know what because I saw that or I had
a chance to hear about it, to learn about it.
I want to dig into that right because that's how
it's all one hand washed the other both watched the face,
you know what I mean. That's how it is. So
like me doing this. I look in the game in
South Charlemagne and Joe Budden's and certain people doing the same,

(05:54):
but they missing this point. That's literally what birth this
right when you talk about shithing, like yeah, but they
ain't saying this though, what about this? And then I
would sit back and wait a week ago by nobody
still ain't saying too. Then it starts, are you peeping
ship that they just ain't peeping because of where you
come from? Bro, that's real, you know what I mean?
So then I started to speak on things and the

(06:15):
reaction of like, oh, it's other people feeling like that,
but it ain't other people saying.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Talking about it. A lot of times like this, just
like I don't want to get off subject. That's just
like what the that should do a sounderstand. I'm sitting
here looking at certain interviews and certain people that came
from where me and you from, they dropping their head right,
they're not even speaking on it. Bro, you follow me like.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
And it's clearly something going on. This is sabotaged, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean, it's like they're trying to cappelate the kid man.
At the end of the day, he young, Bro, he
was born with money, he into money. I get it,
But do you penalize him an X amount?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Bro? Because of that? Do you think it's that's what
going on? Because they're flat because he's more so flashy
young dude. Or is it Dion being his father and
Dion being over his back? Like what do you think
is causing their sunders now to drop out of the draft? Man?
You know what, it's very disturbing. And you know, like

(07:17):
I ain't gonna put no cap on it.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know, like it's it's clear cut racial, you understand, Yeah,
twenty twenty five. Man, the kid got the numbers. Bro,
you understand, it has a lot to do with his
last name. It has a lot to do with his flamboyancy.
It has a lot to do with his arrogance, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
And at the end of the day, guess what, bro,
what does that do with his numbers on the field?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Like, like you got we're in the third round now, yeah,
third round and he still ain't picked. He's probably gonna
go undrafted. Bro. Yeah, man, But you know what that
that that just seems like man like, But that's like
you said that, it definitely feels contrived. It does not
feel like an organic draft happening with this man falling
out of the first and second round. How it don't

(08:05):
make sense.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
And you know the second round they saying they're gonna
pick some quarterbacks, and you had a team like New
Orleans Pittsburgh go right pass, Yeah, you go right past
him and need a quarterback. But I just feel like, man,
them folks say, hey, man, listen, collectively yeah, collectively moving on?
We moving, you know what I'm saying. And I really
feel like, you know, he young, and I hope him
pray he get a shot, man, and I hope him

(08:28):
pray that he used that you know what he going
through to to fuel him. And you gotta remember, shit,
Tom Brady was a sixth round draft pick.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Right, but that was based on skill set, and shit,
that was based on numbers. If we're basing this on numbers,
he shouldn't have five times exactly. So also I'm thinking,
how can the league view him dangerous? Right? Because what's
the difference between and I don't mean skill set, what's
the difference between his flamboyance and his arrogance and his

(08:58):
style versus his father When he came out, they drafted
his father with no problem. So is it the father
figure being there that is? You know what I'm saying,
Because what I'm hearing from Steven A. Smith and other
people are saying that they believe that. Teams are saying
I like him, but I don't want to deal with
his father if he's not starting, if he's you know

(09:20):
what I'm saying, trying to tell me how to run
the organization. But they can also be an escape goat.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And you know what, I really feel like it's an
escape goat because at the end of the day, Dion
wasn't bigger than the NFL.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
You following that de Young can speak what he want
to speak.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I remember old Man told me one day, you know,
like it was players that got in their feelings and quit.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know, I ain't got to do this, so just
walk off, you.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Know, at an early age. And old Man told me
years ago. Make no differen They're still gonna kick off
at one o'clock here Sunday. Man, They're gonna still kick
off at one o'clock every Sunday. You follow that in fact,
and like, like I have mixed emotions. Could it be
dionn or could it be his arrogance? But you know,
at the end of the day, man, I hope he
get a chance.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And and it's it's it's really like it's a sad
day for us. Man as lay. Yeah, like it ain't.
It ain't even covered up, man. And you know, like
they keep making a mohri of he had all this
jury out, he had you know, he had they invited him,
he didn't. He didn't go. He wanted to do it

(10:23):
with his family, had some all the teams and to
see now, man, we in the third round, and man,
that means they don't pick what sixty to sixty yea.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Even if you get drafted now still is a no.
It's like a no draft. You know what I'm saying
for him and his status, The damage is done already.
Even if someone.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Picks like like you said, like like they've they've they've
smeared him so bad and probably messed with his confidence.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
But he's trying to And so that's what I appreciate
about the fathers being there. And of course we'll transition
back into our original conversation, but Dion being there, I'm
seeing a man this. I know he's shattered. I know
he's shattered, he's he's he's damnar broken, he's rattled, his
confidences shooking. I know this, But what you see him doing,

(11:14):
you know, I thank God for everything.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know, God is the greatest. That's his father, that's
his dad. And you know another thing you got to realize.
You got to realize dion and death for his son.
Right But as a dad, den feel this pain.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Too, man, And y'all saying in my fault, yeah, you
know what I'm saying, like like like like I could
imagine because see when I look, I'm like, how would
I feel like I'm hurt? You know what I'm saying.
But but in front of my son and my other kids,
I got it. And these are people around the world.
I got to put on this fas son.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
But then how you think he like when he goes
close his door, he probably lay up against it though, Like.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Man, that's what I asked. That's why, because you say
you have strong faith. I think this is a great question.
It's like, is there room for him to like, I like,
what is this? Like I've been here, I'm with my son.
We got genetics passed down and we know it's proving.

(12:12):
We put him on the proving grounds.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
He like took two programs to the next level and
they telling me it's my fault in It's like.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
But guess what I'm gonna say this, And God knows.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I don't have no prejudice in me at all, right,
but it's okay for Archie to do it for payting it, man,
but it ain't okay for THEA to do it for
shit do it?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
And his other son? You follow me? So so it's
like it's like different stereotypes. You feel what I'm saying,
that's the heart, Like think about just just think about
what what what the Manning legacy did to the to
the NFL. So why the Sanders legacy couldn't do it?
You know why?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
It wasn't nothing but to come of our skin? Bro,
Like let's call an a. You know what I'm saying. You know,
like I'm not gonna say like you got to realize,
like this kid grew up around it and like DM
was who he was, and they say that don't fall
far from right.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
So it ain't no this is passed.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Down at the end of the day. What does that
have to do with the talent on the field? Nothing,
exactly nothing.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
And then if you do think Dion is this nuisance
or this person who would be a problem if you
if you draft his son, what do you think he
gonna be if you don't draft his son? If he
is dangerous or powerful or nuisance. I'm really gonna be
mad if y'all don't draft him. But but you know what,
let's go back. Let's show two scenarios. See what y'all

(13:32):
to understand. Negativity sale in America. If it's negative about us,
they gonna jump on. Right, let's do this Travis Hunter
number two, draft Pie right, everything should have been dead
aim on him, right. But y'all want to talk about
his dad to getting permission because he's on probation to
a ten. But Dionne ain't never left his kids side

(13:55):
ever never, I mean being with him from the time
they came up until now and now now we want
to use one of the largest platforms on earth to
try to tie down this family, the legacy they trying
to build, and they're working hard, hard.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It is come on, man, Then at the end of
the day, you gotta realize at some point then I
gotta go back to Colorado, man. And I know he
damn she ain't trying to take you to do it
with him and give him no job, right, you follow me, man.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
But it's like that, if they make him do that,
that's come on, no team, take him, no team, no
team man, and he's somewhat like the quarterback coach for
the Colorado team. Brother, that's gonna be got print. But
guess what see you see them them boys who press

(14:47):
them buttons. They already knew the outcome with me and
music because I was riding somewhere and my partners sid
look at this. I said, what come on?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I've been waiting on the job because honestly, I wanted
to see the young boy's life transfer and I wanted
to see him and his family.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And they've done all that work and like he's just
been missing. He doesn't done the work and then put
it in man, and then on draft day they don't
call him. Man. I said, ooh, this is getting slipper. Man.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Look at when when I looked at one through ten,
I start again concerned.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Then Man, I said it was over when he ain't go.
When he didn't go ten, Believe, I said something going on,
y'all listen, and I'm im media. So I go to
calling around like, yo, this is gonna be a big story.
This before I even knew he ain't even gonna get
in the second round, just the top ten was a
story just that you know what.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I mean yesterday, I think I was all in the
first round. Woke up the next day, grabbed my phone. Damn,
he didn't go first round. So second round I didn't look.
And when I grabbed my phone, they say he still
ain't went. I say, second round. Then I started looking
at it. Got some more quarterbacks yesterday the second round.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I was like, man, they ain't stuttying that dude, bro,
And that's fucked up man Price family. Yeah, sure, press
to him, man, keep you out, head up, man. One
thing about it. What God got for you is for you, man,
that's for sure. And again I do see him trying
to like be like unwavering and stoic. But I know
he broke. That's a lot on a kid. That's a

(16:20):
lot on a grown man. Man.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
You got to realize, Like, like I had to tell
one of my partuts break, I said, bring up right here,
young Yeah he young man.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Think about me and he was his age. With what
we had, we probably worse than he was. Man. Yeah,
and think about this, like we said, he got presentations
at the house and new jer bro that shit cut deep.
I don't give it down. So I interview Brandon Marshall. Okay,
so Shakur Sanders didn't didn't get drafted yet, but Brandon

(16:50):
Marshall failed. Brandon Marshall had his entire family suit a
draft day party. He thought he was gonna go top ten.
I think he might have failed to. I don't know
what number, in the teens or maybe the twenties or something.
And man, he snapped, I mean, and that's what I mean.
When the father's the honest the only reason why this

(17:13):
young man ain't showing emotional Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the
only reason. Brandy Marshall went up there, whole family downstairs,
he trying to take it in that it ain't happening.
He go upstairs, my man, he breaks the break his hand,
break the mirror, crying for days and days because it

(17:34):
hurt him.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
But like you said, when when when the cameras ain't there, See,
that's when that's when being a father step in.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
See, Prian probably pulling that butt to the side, you
know what I'm saying, praying over him, you know, letting
them know. Hey man, this this this is just a
reminder of corporate America.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You understand, you know so.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
But but like you said, man, it's a big difference
in them fathers being there and not being there man.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Because that's the difference. He would have been emotionally called out.
A team said something, you racist? What he would have
said something because.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Guess what me and you that did. Yeah, that what
I'm telling it wasn't. That was why Listen would have
been done. Flew the cool would have been done, picked
up the phone and called Loom record this over the phone.
Man it yeah, y'all, nigga trip it.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Man, all the y'alls. I got more yalls than him.
More it like you start putting his stats oude. He
would have tried to rationally make his argument in public,
because if you not stoic, bro, and you don't have
any philosophy, you can be emotionally triggered easily. We just
also saw it with Shannon Shaw right for him to

(18:39):
come out and say certain things like, oh you they
done tricked you. You ain't supposed to come out and
docks the lady and say she like, bro, just relaxed,
let them people handle it, and then you in media
feed that ship to somebody else on media. Pass it
all man, you in media.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
But but like you said, it's like I was, I
was eating up on his situation like took me by surprise, man.
And then not only that, but check out how to
play gold. Just say Tuesday shining, shut up about them,
bark on a deal. Yeah, and Wednesday here come up.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Half. You see how they play the game, don't you
see how it's set up.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's like, hey, it's like, okay, her lawyer knew the play,
he worked on, so when that start, he knows we're
gonna come in and do.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
This and and ruin the whole. I guess what that
play probably off the table, off the table. And not
only did it ruin the future play that was on
the table, which is the honey menion, it also took
me off ESPN. So it's the money up I was
currently getting all the way around. Man, he lost all
way around. You want the young white girl, man, listen,

(19:51):
bro like bro like, y'all got y'all preferences. But I'm
telling you, at fifty five, you think the nineteen year
old this is you got to be swiff man. And
know what I'm saying, you ain't swift. If you thinking
I'd have met this broad at the at the gym,
and in two weeks I met her house choking out.
You know what I mean, beds and it don't work.

(20:12):
She's doing this with a motive, brother, but you know,
you know it's traps out there man. Man.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
And at the end of the day, like you say,
you fit the fine, you gotta be looking like man.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
That that that that's that's your daughter. Damn there, bro.
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
But once again, man, one thing I was always taught,
humble yourself or life would do it for you. Man,
You feel me a lot of revolve and revolt back
to being humble man, humility. Man, you feel what I'm saying.
You know, like, dude, do ever since Cat did this thing, Dude,
dude just been different when Big in the small stuff. Man,

(20:48):
you feel me like Cat turned him up. Man after that, man,
hold the mean And like when I heard about it,
I didn't pay attention when I read about it, I said,
nineteen years.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I guess what he'll never recoup from that, bro, Because
you can't explain the age gap. It tells me that
you don't. You know what that tells me is that
you're so you're such a slave to your craving. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. And you can never fall
victim to your cravings. Bro, because you're gonna always lead
you to a bad place. Right, because you think I

(21:19):
don't want to bro. You might want to freaking do this,
but I got to do it a certain way. And
when you're doing bdsc I and you worth something, yo,
I gotta have history with this girl. I can't just
meet it at the gym and thank in my mind
or I hit the jackpot game and it ain't how
this works.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Then then you know, like I used to tell a
coin man, I tell my baby boy this all the time.
Understand this, man, decisions that you make don't only affect you. Man,
think about it. If you're looking out for family members, bro, right,
I ain't telling my money. They may have been working
with you. They could have been employed.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
You feel me actually doing actually working for the money,
not seeing you giving it to us. But let's just
say he got kids. Imagine the impact that the kids
have to deal with because of these type of decisions. Yes,
and now, man, when you look at it, you just
be like, man, I'm like damn saying it for real craziness.

(22:17):
But let's get back to Quorn though. What when Quorn
passes financially, where is he at and how moving forward?
Do the family do you guys distribute the funds? Is
there like a trust that the kids pulled from? What
is the scenario for Corn? And it's a stake.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
When Quorn passed, man, Quorn was in great financial shape,
like I don't play the radio with the money man, right,
you feel me? Real structure, real discipline, O. Corn had
good lord, have mercy money what I call it? You
feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
As far as his finances, man, I know what Coorn
would want and Corn would say, Dad, make sure my
kids straight. You follow me? The numeral number one priorty
in my life, man is to carry out what Corn
would want for his kids. Man, which are my grandkids?

(23:10):
And follow me? Make sure they have trusts, make sure
they have education funds. Make sure they understand you know
what they're about to embark upon. Make sure that you
know hopefully they go to school, continue their education. But
as far as like the finances and stuff, man, his
kids are going to be in a great situation. Great situation, right.

(23:31):
And so we saw also RP take off the untimed
demise of him. But his shit kind of went into
a probate or he didn't have a living will, did.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Quorn have one didn't have a living will either. But
the way we had things, structure is not going to
be as difficult as a task because at the end
of the day, it's for the kids. Man.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You know what I'm saying. Corn had five kids, Man,
Koran didn't have a wife, he didn't have a will,
he didn't have anything in righting, Okay, But the reality
is his key saw his next.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
A king and the right that makes sense, they'll make sense. Yeah,
they're his next a king, Right that makes sense. Yeah,
and one has kids from seventeen to four years old.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Right, okay, so he wanted a couple of them should
be getting old enough soon to be able to kind
of wreak some of the benefits from what they father
left them. You know what I mean. As far as
the education or whatever you have going for him, no doubt.
But damn man, So did the state get involved with that?
Does the state get to take in because what I

(24:33):
what I've heard about takeoff, what I've read in reports online,
is that because he didn't have a living will, I
think millions of dollars ended up routed to the state
just out of some kind of it was a percentage
number but because he was worth so much that percentage,
it wasn't a cap on the number, right. So you
would think if they say fifty percent, but you're getting

(24:54):
twenty five hundred, so send us to twelve fifty. That's
one thing. But if they say fifty percent numbers twenty
two million, you wouldn't think that take left million dollars.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I don't let me tell you this, and I'll be
very honest and transparent. This is my first time dealing
with the probate court system. I'm learning as I go. Man,
you follow me. I have counsel that is expertise in
this field, so I trust in them to lead me
and give me the best advice. But one thing I
can say, man like I took for granted, you know

(25:26):
what I'm saying, I'll keep it a buck. Man Like,
I thought my son would be burying me. Man, you
follow me. I never thought i'd.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
See the day that I'd be burying my son. Just
keeping it real.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Man, thought I had time, you follow me and realized
didn't have. I had a lot of things in order,
But through my son's transitioning, which I like to call it,
I realized I got a lot of loose things I
need to tighten up too, man, you follow me. So
things could have been tighter, but they're not bad, know

(26:00):
what I'm saying. And I know Coin's main priort would
be the kids and rest assure the kids.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Gonna be good, and that's the number one.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
That's the number one for him, Like I know, like
he want to make sure they straight. And I think
the things that we're putting in place going through the
courtz is gonna benefit the kids. And hopefully, man make
him smile and say, pop, y'all did.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
For sure show that's dope. That's dope. I think with
younger men and even with black men, really men, nobody
really wants to face the mortality like and think about
that death and how the casket needs to be or
how to finance and people just like I don't want
to talk about no depth. It's like how niggas used
to treat cancer or like a nigga get a bump

(26:45):
on their hand and man them over there, you know
what I mean. It's like they don't want to approach
your head on. And that's a critical mistake because you
can be given literally giving away half of what you
worked all your life.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
And you know, I say this man to not only entertainers, raffles, actors,
just everyday people.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Man, take time, man to get your business in order. Man.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Right now, I'm in the process of doing a trust.
You know what I'm saying. A lot of times, Man,
we don't be educated to these things. You follow what
I'm saying, and you know, like sometimes like it takes
things of its nature, you know, in order for you
to get yourself together. Because like I heard of trust,
but even at fifty five, I hadn't really looked into that.

(27:31):
If I felt like I had, I felt like I
had a wheel, everything was cool. But nah, man, like
a trust would make things so much easier and the
transition would be so smooth for the family. And you know,
it's just we need to be educated on these things, man,
because if you ain't careful, like you said, brother, half.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Or more more of what you wait, all your life
will go back. I read an article one time. I
don't know how true it is, and I'm gonna share
it with you. When Prince passed, they said that this
man had had a compound thirty six people to thirty
eight people that daily, Supposedly and surprisingly, the day he passed,

(28:13):
he was there alone. Supposedly, man, he had won a
lawsuit for so many millions of dollars and got his
publishing back right from son from Sony. Will come to
find out Sony had a one billion dollar insurance policy
on him. Bro, that's the thing. He wake up dead.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Look, they get all the publishing back and the billion
dollar policy.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Man, That's what I'm saying. Brou De rap niggas sometimes
don't be knowing your label might have a hit on you.
That's how this spade a spade.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Sometimes you be worth more to somebody in depth than
you are alive. You know what I'm saying. But I
guess what. We be so caught up.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
In the the jury, the car, the girls, and guess
what they'll put all that on you, man, Yeah, get
you in position to get this other bag.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
We won't come home and listen, Bro, this shit is
four D chest I tell I tell people all the time, Man,
this game and what you think is cracked up to me.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Man, That's why I think that was a great question
for me to you. It was like from losing your
son on him transitioning like how you view the rap game.
Did it swallow your son up? Did it kind of
you know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I think, I think, I think you know the success
and the darkness they come with it.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Man, you follow me, you know, like I ain't got
the name name. Man.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
We was just thinking about some of the big boys
and where they at then and where they are mentally. Mentally,
That's why we were talking, man, Like, it's important man,
to bring awareness to mental health facts upon my son's
that my son was in a dark space.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I got texts in my phone where I reached out
where his brother Dre was texting me concerned monet. He
was texting me concerned people like, Man, that's your son. Hey, bro, listen,
porn was thirty four, he wasn't fourteen.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Right as a dad, as a parent, as a mom.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's only so much you can do. Man, you follow me.
But that's why I'm telling you, like, try to get
coin help.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, but you know the first step is that meting
I got a problem and I need some help.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It's hard to admit that with all the goddamn money.
Come on, man, that'd be the thing too. It's like,
because when we come up, when we look at a
dope fiend or a crackhead. It's the motherfucker out there.
They can't get it together. They get they So you
don't really see yourself as being cousins to that that,
you know what I'm saying. You don't see it because

(30:44):
you're worth so much money. And so do you feel
any guilt with that? Do people try to pass guilt
of like, Yo, y'all kind of knew he was on
shit pills or whatever he was doing, Like, do you
feel any.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Of that to a certain degree as a human? I'd
be lying if I say no. But at the end
of the day, and I can say this, and this
is not an excuse, my son never indulged in drugs
around me. You got to realize I'm his dad brother,
and I was a disciplinarian. I was strict, structured, so
certain things I didn't see. I never saw corn popa

(31:21):
peel in front of me. I saw him smoke weed.
I saw him, but I know, but certain things I
never saw him do. But in my mind I knew
when he was higher than normal, and I would address
it with him, you know what I'm saying. I used
to tell him like, hey man, whatever you're going through
in life, yo, I say't in a pill about a

(31:43):
look a bottom man. I used to tell him that
you feel what I'm saying. We used to have, you know, conversations.
I wasn't scared. I wasn't no yes guy around here.
You follow me because at the end of the day, man,
I know what hall at work and grind and discipline
and put my money up can do for me. So
I have to quote unquote saying yes lord, and that's

(32:04):
what we love.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
And I can feel that from you, but that's what
we love. Even with my kids. I'm gonna be like
that forever because you know I'm big, I'm the final boss.
Believe that I don't give a damn if you go prod.
I'm the final. And guess what, and guess what.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
We had to kind of understanding man like I don't
care if you got a three hundred chick.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Man or the big cord work six.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Guess what, man, you always respect me and I'm gonna
respect you. We're gonna have a mutual respect for each other.
What I'm saying because at the end of the day,
I used to tell Corny and my other k man,
listen these conversations I have.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
They not for me, son, They for y'all. You feel
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
So do I have Like in hindsight, I be like,
maybe I could have done more, But at the end
of the.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Day, man, I did what I could do. I don't
have any ill feelings. I don't have any remorse from
my actions, right I Like I tell people, if you
see me upset because I missed dude in the flesh,
I don't have a guilty conscience where I could have
would have ship No, none of that because I gave
him that in some of my life. You feel what

(33:11):
I'm saying, And I know he knew that. Bro. We
used to laugh and he would always bring you up whoever.
He would talk with you, if you if you was
a real nigga, he would talk about his daddy some
way in that conversation. That was my man, that was
my life. Like we had a bun bro, like, like,
that's what I missed. Like I ride my bike, Bro
bicycle coin pass September the fifth. I stopped riding my

(33:34):
bike September the seventh. I just picked my bike back
up two weeks ago. You know what was the hardest
part of that ride for me? Not talking to my son.
We used to talk in the morning, like you on
that bike.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Ain't yes, sir, but but we had them talks, and
you know, he'd be like, Dad, I love you, I
appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
You know what I'm saying. So I missed that. You
know what I'm saying. I missed.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I missed like I was sitting there watching a basketball
game the other night and went to pick up the
phone and calling Bron.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Sometime.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I think about in the boxing game, these new up
and coming boxes. I don't know much about them. Corn
schooled me on all this, man. He he told me
about these young boy. Dad, he the truth. Man, tell
me you feel what I'm saying. I ain't about.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Old school, but you were boxing.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
But I love boxing, man, and he used to school
me on it. But but one thing I'm forever grateful for. Man,
we have some beautiful memories.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Right you follow me?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
And now that he's gone, Man, I didn't even know
how important pictures was until now.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Man, you followed me.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
I didn't realize how important that I love you as
a pop on won't And and I'm just letting you know
I appreciate you. Like sometime Bro. Later in I just
read them text messages. Man, you follow me. It gives
me a sense of him still being now sure like
like bro like, and I say to our people, man,

(35:11):
pay attention to your loved ones.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Man, you follow me even if it's uncomfortable. Man. You
know sometimes you got to have them uncomfortable conversations to
get comfortable. Man.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
That's in fact, because guess what, man, I say this
man till my last days, this chair, I'm sitting there along.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I don't wish this's on nobody. It's rough. I mean,
I'm so much saying bro, Man, it's rough a few days.
We're gonna be eight months in. Brother. Listen, when I
was watching my grandson go to the prone the other.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Day and I was looking around and Corn wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Bro, I'm fooling myself, you know what I'm saying. And
coin at a show, you're trying. I'm trying to psych
myself out, you know what I'm saying. And it's like,
I thank the fans so much, bro. Like, I honestly
didn't know the love, the respect that was displayed for

(36:15):
my son. Yeah. I was in ah man, Yeah, I
was in a legend. Bro. You raised a legend. Bro.
That boy, that boy one of the most influential, and
I don't. I'm telling you this, bro, that man was
one of the most influential artists of this generation. That

(36:35):
sound was not the sound of music. Them dudes single
handedly ushered in this melody type of flow. And then
on top of that, you could tell you was around
because when he got into it, will Fly with the business. Hey,
we stopped his hold on. That's how you can tell
somebody is installing game in this young man. You know

(36:57):
what I'm saying. And so I'm telling you, Bro, you
did a great job with that boy man a legend.
I appreciate you've done that. Bro, appreciate and when you
lay down, know that I did that one. You see
what I'm saying. I did that one. Dog, You know
what I mean. Always that come from loom, Bro, they
come from me. Bro, You've done that one. I appreciate that.

(37:18):
I'm gonna say something. You just spoke on the t
ig litigations and stuff, right, must shout out Fly again.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
When when I.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Was making arrangements for my son, Fly met me over
at the church going over numbers and stuff, and I
got ready to go pay for the church venue. I
walked out in the hallway Flyers already in the hall.

(37:48):
I said, where you going? He said, I got this, man,
you go back in there and handle the rest of it.
I want to shout out, Fly, Man Fly. Before corn
passed and after coins transition, Man Fly called me check
on my.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Mental You know what I'm saying, how you feeling? You
know how you day going?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
And you know we developed a great respect and friendship
for each other. Man, And you know, I told him, Man,
I appreciate you know the chance you took on my son.
I know things took off fast, and you know we
were overwhelmed, but you know, through maturity, man, and some praying,
like we overcame that obstacle.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Man. And I shout out because dude stood in the
paint and went and spent the bag with me on
my son's homegoing Man. And that's that's we gotta committed
salute like you got to call an a SA center
spade a spade, you know, like you said, these labels
make millions of dollars off these kids, but won't even
turn around and send you a bucket of chicken. When

(38:51):
something happened.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
And when I say flowers, there a whole way with me, man,
making sure I was good, you know, and like I
heard a lot of my family, Bro, so I know
how the process go. But this when he was a
bit overwhelming and Monday Day, they and Fly they were
all instrumental in bringing this home going together for me

(39:14):
because I wasn't in a space mentally to do it.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Really.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
But it's like, like, hey, man, we know what Corn deserved.
Corn's homegoing wasn't for flash or nothing. My son earned
that homegoing. Man, you follow me and shout out to
the team man for assisting me, Bro in one of
the darkest times of my life.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Man, burying sun is is so so so traumatic. Did
with the turnout at the funeral, did you feel like
that enough of the industry, the enough enough of the
rappers and stuff supported Corn like they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
No? I mean afterwards I paid attention to it, but
that day, Bro, I was so out of it it
didn't matter. And honestly, when I made the announcement that
we were going public with the funeral, it wasn't for
the industry, man, it was for those fans man that
allowed my son to be in places and spaces only

(40:17):
he would have dreamed of being. I have a big
heart toward the fans. Man, I don't get into the industry.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Catch you follow me because it ain't like if it
was somebody I was cool with. You know what I'm saying.
But see, that's part of what had corned in the
dog space. It's this industry and them, not them. Not
when he were piping hot, niggas was hitting him and
he'll come right. He would come and always service some

(40:45):
or help him when he could. He did talk to
me about he had a time where he kind of
did get an arrogant bag and we were like nigga.
But for the most part, Bro would help other rappers.
And so when I speak about the industry, it just
also echoes the fact that it's just so fake in
this industry, Bro, where I can give you a hit

(41:07):
five years ago, and then because we ma ain't talking
eighteen months, you won't even check into my front run right.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
My point that you know, it's a scenario where is
like loan off you and Mike going through it that
ain't got nothing to do with Corey and Mike.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Ma'am understand that. But but but me being the man
I am, I'm gonna come in and try to.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Help you and fix it instead of put few on it.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
You fell. What I'm saying, we got enough of that
going on? What what? What?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Where are the people that say, hey, man, let's sit
these brothers down and and and you know, you know
what the elephant in the room be Man, when we're
doing that, we leave so many bags on the table.
Man follow because of attitude, because of arrogance, ego. You
go like, bro, you don't never sit down and think
about where you came from. You don't think about when

(41:56):
you ain't have what you all to pot to pissing
or wanted to throw it out, and man, when you
can late I use example like this hill Man. I
never met Kobe, I never met Scheck. Rest in peace Kobe.
From what I understand, they didn't get along. But they
want championship together, man. They want championship together.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
And at the end of the day, where does the.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
When does the division stop? So you basically what you're
saying is you believe because of the thug and quaw
and ship it affected how it affected corner on the street.
It affected corner. I can only speak on Corn. Corn
wouldn't talk to me about it, but I know, my son,
it had a profound effect on his everyday life. Man,

(42:45):
I know it did.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Like like, let's let's call an as a center spade
a spade. Let's not you know, let's not play like
sugar colony.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Nobody learned from that. Ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
At the end of the day, I lost a son,
brou these kids lost a father, r This mother lost
a son, This brother lost a brother, This uncle lost
a nephew. Man, you follow me, So sometime I'd be like, man,
I wish he would have just went on with something else, man,
because you know what, there's a mean industry. Bru It's

(43:23):
like one day they praised you and the next day
you ain't nothing.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Because I'm telling you, man, And that's part of success
is backside, is that it'll take you so far up
that when it decided to drop you, it's a long
way down, you know what I'm saying. So if you
fall off a couch, you may not break nothing, but
if you fall off a building, you may die. So

(43:47):
as high as the industry brings you up. When I
was talking to Corn, I was like, Yo, I know
how you feel. Because you still rap good as a motherfucker,
You still fly as a motherfucker, still got the cause
but these folks is trying to act like your music,
ain't they trying to?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Like no, look you they box you out, man. They
caper NICKI bro my nigga, Like, let's let's just keep
it the book. They CAPPRINICKI, Man. And you know, if
Jada kids got a song, say it's a nigga better
than Joy and he just didn't get that break off.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
That's like sometimes I was listening to coin mut the
last night. Man, you're not gonna tell me that one
of the most lyrics niggas you come across.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Man. Facts, But but but it's like, you know, I
got to be cool with but I don't want him
man with me, So I can't come over there. I can't,
you know. But but but like at the end of
the day, man, I can't undo what's been done. You
follow me.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I don't have no ill feelings, own hole, no grudges, man,
I just know man at the end, man.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Like being honest, that shit affected my son. He did.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Man, he's human and coin coin one coin one no
hard cold nigga. He wasn't raised like that good. He
was emotional creature. Man, You feel me, And no matter
how he put on to me you. I can imagine
bro with him by himself a like like he the artist.
If we see it, imagine he's seeing it twenty.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Ten exactly, and then you gotta think he looking at
it like. Not only did me and Thug not continue
our relationship, but nigga, all these niggas out will fucking wistart,
the producers, the engineers, the viti, the DJ hold on
wall like, and that shit was affecting him Broke. I
talked to him about it, and I'm like, man, how

(45:36):
do you get how do you continue to push on that?
My rapping ain't I'm still one of the best rappers, man?
Do you know? Just keeping it a buck? Man?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Since we having this intimate conversation, bre were times we
as a team carried that boy when he ain't had
a strength to carry hisself. We believe in him when
he didn't believe in hisself dog confidence, Like when he
just was like, man.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm good Breach chasing this ship.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
But it was like, man like mane teke dre me
day they even fly. You know what I'm saying, Man,
we still believe in you.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
We ain't gonna like like one thing I can say, Man.
And I say this not because I was a part
of it, but I used to tell a coiner all
the time, Man, one day you're gonna have a profound
appreciation for your team man, right, because there were times, Bro,
we wanted it more than coin man, Like like listen,

(46:37):
if he didn't have the support system he had, twenty
fourteen could have been I mean, twenty twenty four could
have been way earlier.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Man. You follow me because like like like holding them together. Yeah,
like we hailed him down, Bro, We hailed him down man,
even of theay, like Bro, we say, knocked down drag
outs with Buddy Man because he was in a dog space,
you understand.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
And then like he would always say, y'all don't know
what I go through. Y'all ain't the artist.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Hey, Man, we with you regardless, We wit you regardless.
But it's just like you in your situation. You probably
a time you're like, man, you know what, but that
shit with cold how niggas played this right?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
And I can understand coin mentality towards certain things, but
as a father, I'm going with it through the end
of time. You feel me as your manager, I'm gonna
be there to support you. And to put you in positions. Man,
But it was a lot of time. Man Like, mentally
he just wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
They got him. They got your confidence. That's why I
try to tell niggas like that, if they get your confidence.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, we were just talking about that we should do
with them like you see that that that's a valuable word.
So it's like when we go back to our generation
and our people. Man, it's okay to raise your hand
and say I need some help. Like I told you, man,
I'm fifty five years old. I just raised my hand

(48:10):
and say I need some help. I see a therapist. Man,
I told one of my partners, I see a therapy.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Bro, you do, I ain't gonna tell me. I don't
care who you tell. Man, I'm not embarrassed. You understand.
The nigga who ain't acknowledging should be embarrassed. Well, this
is like what we're saying. When you are a nigga
that's taking in so much, you have to dump it
out somewhere. Nigga, what you do with your trash, take
what anything you pile up, you got to go get
rid of that something. That's you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
You know, like my mind setting now, man, is that
like I got to release I got, I got, I
got to get some of this off me. Man, and
going through therapy it's before Look, it's before corn right,
I'm talking about childhood stuff pack.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
That made me who I am today. You know what
I'm saying. At some point, man, you had to learn
how to let go. Man.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
You you got to get off your dad. It wasn't
that you feel me. You got to get off somebody
else had to raise you. You because guess what you do?
You start caring that you affected innocent people that ain't
got nothing to do with lead on people that didn't
cut you. So so it's like, Man, I'm gonna tell
you one of my biggest appocates for therapy man by
my taping on me for a few reals.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Man, yeah, shut out. He kicked that high level ship
like that.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Hey, hey, hey bro go see a therapist. Bring got
a lot on you.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah. And one day, man, I just said, what did
you find your therapy at?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Like you just found my therapist through my insurance provider,
through my insurance provider. And you know, I was kind
of queery at first, little nervous, didn't know what to
expect you know, it was keeping some stuff and I
just told them one that's saying I don't really not telling.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
You the truth. You're here to help me exactly, So Man,
I just start pouring in. It's dope.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I see I see her once a week, man, and
like I look forward to it now.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Man, you know, like like as you dumping the rest
of the week, you take it in.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I'm taking it and it's like it's like, man, it's
like anything else. Man, pressure bus pipes, man, you know,
high blood pressure, alsus and you know stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Man, A lot of that come from word ration. Manr
you know, not not confide. You got to find somebody
to confide in. Man, gotta dump this. I don't care
who you is. Man.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Like, like I read one time, dude say if your
car check in, you're like, come on, you take you
to the shop.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
If your chest started her, you go to the doctor.
Well if your mental ain't right, white can't go get
yourself here. They think your mental can't be broken. Listen,
but it can.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
It's man, I mean September fifth, twenty twenty four transition.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
My whole life, Man, my whole life took a turn.
And guess what, bro that ain't that ain't for the week? Man?
Now that the week big journey to be on.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Man, you know what I'm saying, like like through my therapies, man,
like bring you not go before I start talking about Man,
I used to be at the cemetery self may times
a month. I'm talking about man walking in this mausoleum,
keeping it real with you. Man walking in this mausoleum,
walking up the corn space and when I touch it,

(51:12):
it move a little bit, right, bru so hurt want
to just snatch that mother? Come on, man, I just
just want him to say, pop, let's go. You feel
me like, but but but but you can't even do
it all that and you still got five grandkids, you
still got businesses oversea, you still got Corn's career, you

(51:33):
still got you know, projects you're thinking about. You got
publishing stuff you're dealing with. You're dealing with your last
project you dropped. Then you got grandkids. Then you got
your life.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Man. Yeah, and imagine that if you don't ever get
to dunk, imagine what you gonna take in and went
and took in that's your hid, right, That's a lot
to just that's that's a lot to put on a
mother phone, and then you leave out of there and
never dump that again.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Tomorrow, brother, listen, guess what you're gonna do. You're gonna
start blowing on innocon. People ain't got nothing to do
with it. Last Saturday, last Friday, my oldest grandson prom.
That's the happiest I've seen that kid since his dad
left outright. You spend all day Friday getting him ready
for the prom. Then Saturday Corn got a ten year
old son, had a birthday, he turned eleven. Then Sunday

(52:26):
I went to church with my grandbaby to surprise. So
you think about it, brother, that's a whole weekend consuming
with grandkids. You follow what I'm saying, and then at
the end of the day, you still trying to find
some peace. When I see my grandson Royal spinning image
of coin man spinning hanging with me about a month ago,
he was laying over there on the sofa, I said,
Roy you sleep, He said, no, I'm on the phone, Papa.

(52:48):
I look at him, Man, he bowed up in a
not just like his dad, man of rhythm. And I
look at him sometime and I said, man, you raising
Corn all over again of time. And then when I
see this kid, he looking so sad. I'm like, let's
sit down and talk. Man, what's wrong. Papa just missed

(53:08):
my dad. That's that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
That's just that. Guess what he got four more this
missing their dad. And guess what, Lune, I'm missing their dad.
Whole family just bro.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Still in disbelief, man, still in shock, still in denial.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
You followed them saying.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Like, man, I sat with Ricky, Ricky Smiley, you know
he lost his son.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yes, yes, man, it's like a salute the rick Man.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
And like he got a chap in his book said
God will give you double for your trouble.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
And he was talking about a scenario he lost his
son and God revealed him that he had two twins.
Didn't even know they were his.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Wow, when I said I one day, that just holler,
he said, pertaining to his son. And the test results
came back them two twins, was.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
He That's crazy? But like you say, God, that that
that that that rings true. You know what I'm saying.
But I wonder It's like I mean, I guess time
and and and and I just don't know how. I
don't have the words to make it through that stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
You never have, you know, and even through therapy, man,
just keeping them the buck with you.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
And it's still a fear that I have. I'll be honest,
one of my biggest fears now. Man.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
For me, it's more than myself to death. Man, I'm
just being honest. I'm transparent.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Man. That's really like, bro, Like, how do you move on.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
With something you've been attached to for the thirty four years?
And I'm not talking about no no, no dropping dad.
I've been with Corn from his birthroom to the graveyard. Man,
you feel me, like, Bro, We've had our ups and downs.
We guess what, it's my son. Yeah, I got texts
I read probably two three times a month, and and

(55:21):
and and my my, my my suffering and my grief
is different because I can play a song and hear
my son you know what I'm saying, or you can
cut up. That's why I took a break from Instagram.
People were showing me so much love and I'm grateful

(55:42):
for that, but.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
It but it slows down my heeling process.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And not only are me and my family hurting, whereas
people across the United States hurting because of my son's transition.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
And you be like.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
God, I thank you in spite of it. Man, I
always thank God because I know that Corn was blessed. Man,
I know he was gifted, you know what I'm saying.
And to see the people that he has touched, now
it touches me, man like brum out of about. I
went to get a tagg the other day. When and

(56:22):
I to pay the money, got the tag, the lady said,
you strong. I said, excuse me? Was She said you strong?
I said, you know me? She said, you Coin Daddy.
I said yes, ma'am. I said I'm not strong. I said,
just appear that way. I said that. Man up, there's
my strength, right, I said, ma'am. There are days well

(56:44):
i'd be so weak. Man, I don't know what to
do already, but doing them times man like God stepped
in and he reminds me that Coin's time down here
was complete. Man, his job was done. And they go

(57:05):
back to a sermon I heard years ago. It's a
passer here, aint Timothy Fleming. His son got killed in
a car accident. You know what, the son he preached
the sermon. You know what the sermon was.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
What? Now I know how God feels losing his son.
And now I know man.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
And not only that, I got a brother that was
traveling with corn and stuff. I lost him eighteen months
for corn past. Damn my baby brother. Yeah, so it's
like damn. It's like yeah, it's like RP the meat man.
Like I raised him as my son. When corn first started,

(57:47):
I put him with corn. He was my eyes for me,
feel me, he was my eyes.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I know he.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Genuinely loved his nephew, and his nephew loved him. You
follow what I'm saying, sot Tim. Then my middle brother
had a massive stroke before, probably a month or so
before my baby brother passed.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
And then a year and a half late, I lose
my son. And that's what you mean by mourning yourself
to death. And this is a very important conversation, bro,
because you a lot of people, you know, they say
death come in through reason, all these different things. So
what happens is you can find yourself in their feedback
loop of just sad, sad, sad sad. You got to

(58:34):
intentionally put some happy in. Now, there you go, but
then what is happy? Now? Now? I got to redefined
happy and.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Then you know what, like right now in my life,
happenings or a smile is temporary right now. Man, you
follow me, I need to learn how to get back
to some permanency.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
You feel it's temporary right now because I'm always reminded that.
You know, me and Coyn used to say we always got.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
So we all we got? And he gone, right, what
do we get? What do I gain? So? But but
I think it's it's about perspective. So and it's gonna
take time. It ain't something you're gonna be able to do.
Just like all right, I'm changing how I'm viewing this,
But at some point the rubber has to meet the
role where we go from from missing him to celebrate

(59:29):
right where It's like when I do get a tag
from a fan, it don't hit me while I make
me missing, it makes me remember celebrate that he done that.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
We've done that Leader salute, We've done that, you know.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
But that's gonna take time. But you have to be
intentional with trying to like curve that, you know what
I'm saying. Mother, got to curve that because you're gonna
have an emotion when you see him for the rest
of your life. But you gotta choose which path do
I need to go with this or can I dictate
it right now? It's too strong, it's overpowered. I can't

(01:00:06):
even dictate it the other way. But any event, when
I get that opportunity to start seeing my son and
instead of mourning him, celebrating because God does have a
final sake, you know what I'm saying, you know, Like,
and one of the things, like I think, what keep
me going is that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I'm reminded this is temporary. I understand we get caught
up in and thinking this fell right. And I'm a
firm believer that sometimes God come get certain people to
get our attention to let you know, get comfortable out
of here on earth. Yes, because this ain't your final destination.
And like I said, I know I see him again,

(01:00:44):
and like I have a little science man, Like I
woke up one morning, I looked up and I just
saw him smiling. Bro right, you feel me? Yeah, So
like I get science to here in a better place.
And when he transitioned and I had to go to
the hospital and I saw him, it was a peace
on him I hadn't seen in a minute, man. Yeah,

(01:01:06):
you know what I'm saying. So so like I I
see some light at the end of the time. You
following first it was real, dog.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
And it's hopefully you'll you'll continue to walk towards the
light and it gets brighter and brighter.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
You know what, I like, I want to use the platform, man,
to just help others. You feel what I'm saying. Like
my partner said, bro, what you're gonna do next? I say, Bro,
I just want to help others. Man, I just want
to bring mental awareness, depression, you know, things a month.
Let our men know it's okay to discuss them things.

(01:01:45):
And you ain't got to discuss some on platform. Just
talk to somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Dump. You've got to dump this ship because like you said,
or not, man, she's gonna explode one day. Man. And
and nobody's excluded from there, nobody. Man, I want to
ask you this too. Didn't you ever meet young Thug?
I met Thug before? Yes? So did you have a
personal relationship with just In passing?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
No early early on in their careers. We had a
personal relations Okay, cool? Cause, like I said, man, like
I tend to stay out of certain things as don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
To be like you know, too overbearing to overprotecting me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I'm staying you know, it's just like you have kids, man,
one day they gonna walk out that door without you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Man, Yes, you pray and hope everything go allway. You know,
I give you the tools you give you. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
And I feel like like not only on thug side,
but quar two brothers, attitude and egos.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Man, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Know, like thug Daddy reached out to me big Jail, Yeah,
Big Jeff. Off of the conversation, Bro, let's try to
bring these boys back together. But the attitudes and ego
we wanted it, but the attitude and egos we tried.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Bro, for real, what year was this recently or when
they first kicked y'all was trying to get in the
middle of the fire.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Now it was some years it went by, and Jeff
restocked to me like, man, Jeff on the top to you,
and I called and he was like, man, let's try
to bring these boys back together. But the attitude, the
egos was so big we couldn't do it. But but
but as fathers, we attempted. Man, we didn't turn a
blind eye to it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You know what I'm saying. I wanted to find a resolution. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
You followed me like at the end of the day,
we couldn't come to one. But but me and Jeff
did try, right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I seen because Doug just had his interview with GQ
and he spoke on Rich Homie Kwan. Yeah, so basically
they asked him what was his relationship with Kwan after
you know, he has died, and what was his relationship
and what happened with the Rich Gang era? And Thug
basically said that it was Rich Homie Kwan's decision not

(01:03:46):
to want to continue to kind of do the music,
but he and then he said that for him it
didn't matter. He would have kept doing the music because
they were still dropping solo projects or something. And he
framed at the end it basically said, sometimes we make mistakes.
And what's your thoughts on just that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
So some of my thoughts on that hindsight, being a dad,
being a protector, loum, I was instrumental in that, okay.
And the reason I was instrumental is because it was
a lot of paperwork that wasn't completed. Man, you understand,

(01:04:31):
and had conversations with Bird in regards to the paperwork,
and we were gonna do this and do that and
never got taken care of. And I knew, like I
understand Thug being an artist like, hey man, I'm just
gonna do the music. I understand that, but at the
end of the day, I wanted them to do the
music right. But I just wanted them to be compensated

(01:04:51):
and I wanted them to have their fair splits as
far as you know, the music was concerned. And you know,
like when you see songs doing all these big numbers
but it's not being accounted for the proper way, that's
when my responsibility as a manager and a dad come in, like,
hey man, these boys got some special let's just handle

(01:05:13):
this right and we could go on. But when this
one being handled, I had the advice Quinn step away.
You know what I'm saying, like, hey man, like the
business ain't being handled. And you know, Kawan only spoke
about that on my platform in detail. He really got
into the bird Man and what you talked about, like
the numbers and yo, the paperwork wasn't right, man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Like the split wasn't right. And then we did get
into the release of a lot of the records they've done.
It was like start to leak it on some of
those engineers, which devalues you know, the project in a
tremendous amount. But but yeah, I think I think do
you do you think you made the right decision with.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
That I stand on because I stand on business, man,
I stand on business. I mean like and even like
when me and Fly talked about the t I G litigations,
But I never asked for nothing that wasn't in black.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
And white as honor what's already just honor what's here, bro,
That's all I'm saying, just to count to us in
a timely manner. Yes, not not not, but but.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
You know, like when when when you have artists, they
so into the hoopla they ain't think about the real bags.
But me, being a man of numbers, Hey man, listen, Corn,
you can have that show money, but I'm trying to
solidify you and your kids future with.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
This other money. That's the real When your body stopped moving.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
No more, that's them deposits coming in for the rest
of your kids life. You know i'derstand so so do
I regret it, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
What I do. Listen, man, I was raised by a man. Yeah,
and if you and I told.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Con this, were not going through this for t I G.
For for whatever reasons the motive you may have, We're
standing on the paperwork that you signed. And guess what,
if I'm asking you to honor your responsibilities, it's only
right that I asked t I g to honor it
a way. That's all it was, Bro. And it was

(01:07:21):
the same way with the rich Gang situation. I just
wanted the paperwork, right because I know in America, brother,
it ain't in black and white. What did you have nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah? You just talking that. You just talked like I
can't do nothing without paperwork, right, that's all. And guess what?
And that was your that was your that was your
approach in this business, which is the label's approach. Believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
They gonna have you to sign one hundred piece of document, Bro,
And guess what we get upset if you don't say,
let me go get a few days to go over that.
I want to understand when I'm signing. All I wanted
was an understanding because like, I didn't think that that
I would be responsible for that my grandkids being okay,
the rest of their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
So guess what. That's why that was did back then
for a time like now, right, That's why the universe
is perfect. Believe that. Do you see what I'm saying?
See how the universe is perfect. Bro, you were fighting
for something you knew his kids were gonna need before
you even knew this was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Gonna happen, That's what. And guess what that man, Listen,
it wasn't That's all it was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Man. I was doing what I thought was right for
my kids, kids kids, and for the work that Coyn
had put in. I don't do nothing what I pay
for work now, man, Yeah, I only care if I'm
buying a car because I know I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Know what it can do and what it can't do.
You follow me, So do I have interview?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
You don't have to honor anything, but your payper's got
to put it on that they got to, man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
So no, I don't have no regrets, Man, gonna give
whatever the chips fail, they fail, man. And at the
end of the day, I lost my son September fifth, right,
But I can tell you this long they kid lived
the life that people dream Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah, Now he lived like a rock stock. And I
told him, not only him, family and friends. He allowed us.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Man to see some things we probably never would have seen. Yeah,
he would faces we never would have went to meet
some people I probably never wouldn't have missed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
You follow what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
So it's like it's it's deep when you look at
the overall picture, man, and at the end of the day,
man long as he rest and Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Not for sure, for sure, for sure, that's dope. Man.
I think it's I think. I think, like I said,
he left a good legacy. He left. You know, he
left a lot of great music. He brought in this.
I'm telling you how important it was that helped the
South take the whole entire music business, Bro, because it
was up North and all that. When them niggas started mumble,
they tried to call him mumble rappers. That was their

(01:09:59):
way of tru The nigga stopped listening to that. Sh
They ain't really saying them nigga kept pushing the line
that type of way when so goddamn crazy. It changed music.
It was him. I will never forget that eraror type
of way it. Cash Shout had a record, theres the
Shin had a record, this one. They was ushering in

(01:10:19):
that singy because it was new. It was like rappers singing. Now. Man,
that changed the entire infrastructure of music. And it was
thug and it was all these different dudes. And then
you started to see fruit off those trees with the
little babies, and uh, you know it continues the go
and the hunt schos now off the little baby tree.

(01:10:40):
It's like it's just feeding. It was just it was
just so so much happening. Bro, That bro really shook that.
Did you ever meet Big Nut? Yeah? So you did. Me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
I knew Nut. My ex wife sister was nuts step mother,
so that was that's done. His wife his dad, so
so I knew that when he was much younger. You
follow me and I met him a few times over
at t I G and like, man, one of the
coolest laid back guys I ever met.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Man, You follow me. I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
I ain't know nothing about what Nut had follow I
didn't because every time I seen, he's so respectable man.
We sit down and chopped it up, had great conversation,
great dialogue. You know, used to be talking about corn
and loochie and stuff, and like when I found out,
like I wouldn't have never knew if nobody had.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
A told man like he wasn't he But that's how
we usually. That's why you know that a lot of
rapper guys are acting because when they popping it so much.
That's that. Ain't that? Ain't that? Ain't that ain't what's
really you know what I mean, that ain't gonna get
it done. So anything you want to lead the people with, man, Look,

(01:11:59):
just keep the family and prayer. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
I appreciate you know, the fans and everybody that you
know still supporting my son, still reaching out to me,
letting me know that you know you're thinking about me,
because you know usually have them two three months. Man,
you be by yourself, well you know it's at the end.
So I mean, continue to keep us in your prayers. Man,
I'm gon do everything in my power to keep his

(01:12:23):
legacy going. And it is what it is. Man, Thank you,
man for sure let me and I got one. I
got a few more questions because right here more three
is still dropping music.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
He's been passed away I think for a couple of
years now. I don't want to misquote the actual year,
but how much more music does Rich Homie Korn have
and how many more projects or any documentaries any you know,
pieces of content, pieces of work that the fans can
be looking forward with you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
For most definitely, Man Korn probably got a couple thousand songs.
But y'all to understand with me and the team being structured,
how it's structured, you know, it's levels, it's things we
have to do before we can release this music. Like
I don't want to release music and have all kind
of obstacles after we've released it. So the plan is

(01:13:17):
the most definitely continue to drop music, continue to build
his legs. And yo, we got a documentary that we're
fine tuning. Man, we got to fine tune it to
bring it out. So it's still a lot a lot
of music man left behind by rich Homi.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Man, are you looking at the MOS three business model?
Which is all right more three? You know, transitions with
all this music on the hard drive. Now, what we
do as the team, we still go work these records, meaning, hey,
take one verse off of that who's the hot wrapper
the baby? Hey the baby jump on this one. Pay
him for his feature and now this is our record.

(01:13:56):
This still go to his kids. He may be not
here to you know, actually go and performing and stuff.
But we're adding to the catalog.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Well that that scenario, that's a team question. But if
I had to speak on it, because what we do,
we move together. You know that somebody on the team.
They say, Yeah, that's a great idea, But I go
back to the game, man, It depends on how you
want to play the game. Do you want to I

(01:14:26):
think when I think about decisions, I still think about
it if Korn was still here and what his thoughts
would be on this process. As far as spending money
on features, Man corn music so pure and organic.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I'm just letting people hear him, man, And then it
ain't necessarily because some of these niggas should do it
for because Corn is who he is, right. But what
I meaning is, you're gonna find yourself in a scenario
where your job now becomes to maximize the exposure of
the record exactly. You see what I'm saying, because you

(01:14:59):
want be making new money, and at some point you
can get in a situation where his fans kind of
get dormant a little bit and you may have to
pull you know, someone that's moving out there a little
bit to just help with the visibility part of it.
You know what I'm saying. I think more three of
them has done a really good job. He just did

(01:15:21):
a song with Tory Lanes, right. Those little things, I'm
telling you, they help maximize the visibility. And then also
if the business is right, it's just like a solo song,
and you know you're gonna get the business right. So
it ain't gonna be no loose ends. They need to
be tied up. But what I'm saying is your job
changes because we're in the streaming era and it's search

(01:15:42):
engine era right versus people grabbing CDs. You have to
continue to have people searching for quorn three years from
them for whatever reason. And another thing you brought up
a good point. Another thing you have to realize, Man,
their tension spans so short now, so like if you
ain't there, they gone on on something, you know what
I'm saying. So basically going back to the team, I

(01:16:04):
genuinely handler the business as far as song selection and
you know what they want to do as hard as
features money, they dre you know, the DJ's tank will
have their input and if they you know, say hey man,
we think we should go with this and they want
to do it, I'm with it, man. And that's just
me giving some game as to you know what I'm saying.

(01:16:25):
Because you got the rest of your pack, you gotta
you gotta put a little cut in it, you know,
what I mean. You know what I mean, you got
got your You know what I mean. I'm just saying,
keep to keep the block.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Roll, no doubt, very not talking to you. See now
later on today I go do some research.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
I want three They've been smoking it and did it.
I'm talking about single singles and they're grabbing other artists.
That's still moving right now, momentum right now, because it
ain't about the song. It's literally about the kids and
maximizing the impact of this ship. He done done what
he wanted to do far as like now I leave

(01:17:00):
that one now from now, it's about the little one.
Let's button this ship up. You know what I'm saying. Like,
so that's what I'm saying. As I'm watching, I'm saying, oh,
because see, nobody else been able to do it. You'll
die out. Look at Pop Smoke. Pop Smoke was one
of the biggest artists in the world. No one is
searching for that right now, and that's the problem. You
take some of them old songs Pop Smoke, here go

(01:17:21):
based Swag, which is a rising New York artist. You
mass that. You see what I'm saying, and that now
takes his active fan base and hopefully go you know
what I mean. And it's just a constant putting a
little cut on him, trying to make it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Lock up, no doubt. I mean the same way, the
same one coin is how people are reaching out for features.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
They're trying to They're trying to get their ship to
lock up. They don't. They trying to bro this ship,
you know what I mean. So we can just tossed you.
I mean, yeah, So that's all I'm saying. Man like
me being an old school see, I need to hear conversations. Yeah,

(01:18:06):
because you know, I'm laid back, I'm chill man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
So like like when I leave, like for I finish
getting the group message. Bro, y'all want to pick a song,
Let's find a feature, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
And it's gonna go and tell you and then it's
gonna make the fans. It's gonna make their fans. It's
just it's a marriage. It's you're not you're not playing
the traditional music business. You're playing the algorithm be there.
So it's a different business you play, you know what
I'm saying. That's why that's why I'm always in debt
at the little baby, because soon he do his role.
I interview with me. It jumped my algorithm. And it

(01:18:39):
ain't even if you don't give me a dollar, fuck
the money. Them niggas just dromp your algorithm up to
the top. That's what you That's how they pay with
their eyeballs. That you see what I'm saying. The presence, Yeah, yeah,
so that's something I would I wanted to put under
you like doing the team. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yeah. Also one more thing, so the nine one one
call came out for the fans who do not know
what is the official cause of death of rich On Korn.
The official cause of death was overdose. Overdose.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Okay, and understand this, and I was educated on this.
You can drink some robotustin and you could take a
tile and all, and if you die, it's gonna be
classified overdose because there were two forms.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Of medication drugs or whatever in your system. I didn't
know that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Yeah, that that's what had. It was marijuana. It was
quote unquote of fake pill and it was some codeine.
So so that that was that was that's why it's
labeled the overdose.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
They did they ever arrest anybody about the quote unquote
fake No, No, nobody's been arresting. That's crazy because I'm
sure like in my time they going to wrist for
and guess what, I'm not resting. Yeah, they want to
wrestle them all about that. You know what I mean,
Like when you when when you see out in Hollywood
when these folks next thing ain't no shit. Two weeks
they got somebody Macklamore died, they arrested that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
I've been I've been I've been pressing that, man, you following,
I've been pressing that, like like I'm on it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yeah, because that's you don't I mean, you know, like
if you I tell these dudes in the street, man,
y'all can't do that. Don't do that bro. Don't do
that one. Bro, don't do that one. I don't care
which one you're working. Don't work that one, bron man,
don't do that one. Man. You know what I'm saying. So,
but what was interesting because before you got here, and
we'll close up after this. So I ended up. I

(01:20:40):
was listening to something with rich On mccorn in the
nine one one call came up. What it was that
his girlfriend baby. Yeah, so it says that she seen
him on the couch and she left and then she
came back, or she put a cover on them or something.
There was a series of events, a sequence of events

(01:21:01):
that she didn't notice anything wrong, and then she came back.
Has you and her had a conversation about that day
and what's your understand.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Most definitely what you gotta realize they there with him
every day. You follow me, quote unquote, could.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Have been normal. You know, I try not to look
at the bad man. I try not.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I try not to stereotype. I try not to pass judgment.
You know what I'm saying. There were a lot of
things I wish could have been done different that morning.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
You follow what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Saying, But I really think it's just a famous Bridges
took it for granted. You know, he'll be He'll be,
you know, like I'm gonna get in the bed when
I get up, He'll wake up or whatever. Like his
brother Dre told me. He said, I thought man by
me taking the truck to the shop, corner takes me
and be like Drake, how I get on the sofa
because Drake put him on the sofa.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Did you see what I'm saying? So I think I
think it just be man like you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Know them folks been together forever man him and and
they seen him in these probably just like you know
here buck back or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
You feel what I'm saying. So in regards to that, like, man,
when it is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Your time, it's your time, man, you know, like, ain't
nothing nobody can do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Man. You know, we we be thinking like what a
could have water should have? You know, when it's your time,
Like it's your time, and you really can't spend a
lot of time in could have water, should have land, right,
because like I was saying, that time well spent is
in the future when it deals with resolute there you
know what I'm saying. The past deals with trauma and

(01:22:33):
what's already took place. Fixing it deals with the future.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
And see I was raised man, I don't focus on
the problem. I try to focus on solutions. You follow me,
And the solution is how do we prevent once again
from somebody else sitting in this chat that I'm in
r And that's and that's bringing awareness on platforms like this, Yes,
you know, just telling people, hey, man, pay attention man,
because one thing I know, and that's ceementy in me

(01:22:58):
smiling faces tell lives.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
For sure, you follow me for sure. Motherfucker be smiling. Man,
blow his brains out. Man. Like I said, you you
were not here to dissect everything. But if you have
that feeling, man, reach out.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Yeah, you know that's that's the most important message I
got out of my son's transitions. Bringing awareness, man, and
trying to help somebody man who who may be going
through it, who done been through it and probably don't
face it one day.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
You feel what I'm saying, So like it's like I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
I don't point fingers, man, I just know that my
faith and that man there know everything. And I'm a
firm believer that what if you do in the dark,
it'll come in to life, come to you. You get by,
you don't get away, That's right, That's all I would say.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
That's what you get by, but you don't get away,
that's real sure man. But I thank you for having
this conversation. Man, Like I said, my heart goes out
to you. You got my number. Anything you need, I'm
always with you. Like anything in the documentary, If y'all
need my what's y'all need to overlapped over double anything
y'all need, I'm with you. Whenever he dropped music. Shoot

(01:24:07):
it to me. I'm splashing it to the platform, you know.
And this is why I was saying, it's important that
black platforms and artists and business that we work together
because GQ is not gonna do that. Once a motherfucker
pass away, they gonna move on. Yeah, So we gotta
we gotta lift each other up and stay by each other. Man,

(01:24:27):
And my heart goes out to you. You have a
long journey ahead of you, my nigga, but you've done that.
You've done that with your son. You raised a legend,
and you know, like I say, my heart goes out
to you. Thank you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Appreciate you for having me, man and vice versa. Anything
you need from me or if you feel like I
gotta connect you need my phone open.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Whatever I can do to enhance you and build you
up and keep you propelling, I'm here for you, Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
I appreciate that. Ball love. Thank you so much, Bro,
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