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December 15, 2025 56 mins

Loon reacts to 50 Cent’s Netflix Diddy documentary Sean Combs: The Reckoning, breaking down the Diddy doc scene by scene, the edit, the missing context, and what it really means for the culture. Loon reacts to 50 Cent’s Netflix Diddy documentary Sean Combs: The Reckoning, breaking down the Diddy doc scene by scene, the edit, the missing context, and what it really means for the culture. This ain’t just “yo that was crazy” commentary — it’s a slow walk through how Netflix told this story, why it feels like two different documentaries smashed into one, and how 50 Cent’s name ended up carrying weight for a narrative he didn’t fully control. Loon talks about the pre-arrest footage, the “illegal tapes” conversation, the jurors, the Cassie part, the way the abuse is framed, and the weird spots where the doc backs off instead of really landing the plane. From there he zooms out: why big platforms love using familiar faces from the culture as shields, how the Diddy doc lines up with the lawsuits and headlines, and why this project might be more of a setup for the next move than a final word. He ties it into the bigger ideas he’s been on — “arrive alive” instead of dying on the climb, old heads acting as defluencers instead of leaders, kids cosplaying depressed and gangsta because that’s what the stories teach them, and what it really costs to make it through all this without ending up bitter, beat up, or broke. If you watched Sean Combs: The Reckoning and walked away confused, this is the breakdown. Patreon (full audio, early drops, exclusive episodes):👉 https://patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast Discord – Join the Looniverse:👉 https://discord.gg/3AwsHfDcJB More episodes & clips:👉 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnwwxLxHiDWYLCXvb81w69QAfr6cc1Y3N #itsuptherepodcast #loon #diddydocumentary #DiddyDocumentary #seancombs #Netflix #50cent 0:00 - Introduction & Setting the Foundation 1:30 - The "Arriving Alive" Philosophy Explained 3:45 - Distance vs Destination: Why the Journey Matters More 6:20 - Building Your Business Foundation: No Cruise Control for Beginners 9:15 - Working Through the Gears: From Foot to Autopilot 12:30 - Celebrity Wrestling Analogy: The Cost of Success 14:45 - True Climbers vs Those Brought to the Top 17:20 - 50 Cent's Diddy Documentary Analysis Begins 19:50 - Netflix's Strategic Use of 50 Cent as Cultural Shield 22:40 - Breaking Down the ABC Interview with 50 Cent 25:15 - The Flowers Message: Diddy's Strategic Communication 28:30 - Corporate America Weaponizing Black Culture 31:45 - Black Podcast Culture in Shambles Discussion 34:20 - Invisible Giant: Why Names Get Withheld in Culture 37:10 - Decoding "The Streets" for Young Black Men 40:25 - How Misunderstood Language Leads Youth to Violence 43:40 - Max B Situation vs Southern Artists: Media Double Standards 46:55 - Cultural Outsiders Running Hip-Hop Conversations 49:30 - Shape-Shifting in the Entertainment Industry 52:15 - The Importance of Arriving With Your Identity Intact 54:45 - Diddy Documentary Deep Dive: What They Didn't Show 57:20 - The Sex Capades Coverage Gap 59:50 - Two Documentaries Mashed Together Theory 62:30 - Numbers Don't Lie: Solo Show Performance Analysis 65:15 - Social Currency & Name Recognition in Black Media 67:45 - The Real Message for Young Black Boys Watching 70:20 - Final Thoughts & Closing Wisdom 72:30 - Outro & Patreon Preview Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Those flowers would indicate to me that tag you're it,
now's your turn. Cannot say that all of every celebrity
cars is on the table? Did it in a weird way?
Has an advantage now, especially at the level he's on. Hey,
I'm the only one of my kind that all my
cards are on the table. They've took me to town

(00:20):
about what I quote unquote have done. I've came back
with five years and now fifty you standing over there
working with them people trying to steal all right, my turn.
But if you pay attention, even when they intro the video,
even when they intro the interview, how does the mainstream
platforms intro the interview with fifty cent about the Diddy documentary?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
They always speak to his long term fuel.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
This is corporate America effectively throwing fifty under the bus.
Now we the kind of take limit and make lemonade,
that'll take the scraps and make soul food. So they
gotta be careful because he may know what he's trying
to do with it. But I'm telling you they throwing
him under the bus. There's no reason for them to
speak on any kind of backlash. It's been going on

(01:06):
on Twitter and Instagram went on mainstream media, but there's
an agenda attached to it because that footage that they
got was because they had a working relationship with Diddy.
Always told that I'm the one made the biscuits from battle.
I'm the one done it from scratch and to God

(01:27):
be the glory around now looking at the new bens
without the bells and whistles, God was just on pins
and needles.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Ya ya, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Welcome to us up There podcast. I am your active
and attractive host Big Loan. You already know hit that
like hit shall let somebody know I was there. I
beall witness to the game. If you're here, come toopatreon
dot com. It's up There podcast. That's what my congregation is.
That's what my sanctuary is. We come to put the
game down. I hope you guys enjoy every time we
do these solo episodes. I do see the growth and

(02:00):
I do want to thank y'all from the center of
my soul. It's nothing like this show. Let's just be clear.
Let's just set the reconstrate, because you know, I don't
want to sound arrogant. I had a long conversation with
some of my loved ones about yo. Never I never
want to come off arrogant, but I'm always gonna come
off truthful. And sometimes the truth can feel like disrespect

(02:22):
when I'm reaching for the same goal that you're reaching for,
when people didn't expect you to get as far as
you got. Sometimes it can feel disrespectful when you say
I've encountered things, I've overcame. I've been faced with things
that I have conquered. And so it's important for me
to stand up and let my children know. If nothing else,

(02:43):
my audience know, the people that believe in me know, Yo,
I'm a warrior.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Don't cry for me. Pray for me.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Pray for visibility, don't pray it don't rain for me,
Pray for when she'll wipe us. Pray for umbrolla, don't
pray it, don't get cold for me. Pray for cold,
Pray for he, Pray for understanding. I'm moving in a
way that I don't give a fool in a way.
They got to get out the way, or they get
rolled over. And that don't exclude anyone, because God has

(03:11):
placed me on a mission, and only a few men
can hit me and feel me. Only a few women
can identify with what's coming out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm on a mission. It's a different level.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And so while I'm in that pocket, let me speak
with clarity for people out there, because sometimes it's just
important to recalibrate. And first of all, let me give
God the glory. But there's no solo show anywhere on
YouTube in our niche, and I feel that matters to
our culture that's doing the numbers I'm doing alone. I'm
speaking about solo episodes. I want to be clear about that,

(03:45):
and not because I'm arrogant. It's because I'm noticing that
some of these people are withholding my name in some
of these conversations, in which is warranted. They should be
mentioned in my name, but they're hiding the results. And
so pretty soon I'm gonna have to go on my
Trump campaign and let you know they rig in the election.

(04:06):
And so when I speak about these numbers, I'm not
talking about something that I'm just pulling out of osmosis.
And this ain't arrogance talking, it's arithmetic. This is numbers speaking.
And there's so many conversations, even with people that I
think is we're pretty cool, they don't mention my name
they don't say yo, man, like how loan is done man?
And I've done bigger things than everyone that they mentioned.

(04:29):
And I always take that and wonder it's that hate
or are they trying to bury the bone? So many
times I feel like an invisible giant. Some of the
things I'm able to do. With God's grace, I'll be
able to do even more and feed my families, which
I'll support.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
But yeah, this game gets sticky, bro.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
But a lot of these individuals, they don't withhold my
name because they don't know who I am. Because I'm
starting to be uncomfortable with the amount of people that
know who I am. I'll be com letely honest. But
it ain't because they don't know who I am that
they withhold my name. Is because if they say my name,
they feel as though it cost them some social currency.

(05:10):
And we're living in an atmosphere, in a culture, in
an environment where all of these individuals are trying to
guard their social spot, their social currency. Notice, how if
black podcasters really could work together, we'll run the market.
But we're too busy competing with one another because there's

(05:31):
too many suckers. That's at the forefront and I'll say
it plainly, but we'll get more into that on Patreon. Man,
I see that I talked about the didd It documentary
last week. We had some audio issues in which we
had to drop it in two parts. I didn't appreciate that,
and we're gonna make sure that that doesn't happen again.
We put in checks and balances, so y'all bet with

(05:51):
us again. We've been dropping a lot of content, so
hopefully you guys appreciate that. But that did It documentary,
you know, I've seen a bunch of things in that
stuck out to me, in particular the mother part. I
didn't feel as though when they spoke about how did
he approached his mom after that catastrophic event took place
in which some people died, and he said, yo, man,

(06:12):
the guy's mom came up to him and she was
concerned with, YO, did you make the right decision you
left college? And he smacked his mom, and man, I
just I couldn't believe that I even spoke with my mom.
And I just don't think black boys do that. Black
boys to their mother, they don't do that. Now, can
they be raised into doing some stupid shit?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Can they get extremely upset or something provoked them. But
for his mom to be approaching him out of concern
and for them to say that he smacked her, that
right there struck me as odd. On top of that,
I feel as though the documentary didn't focus and beam
in on the sex capades. I thought we was really
gonna get into, like, yo, this is what he was

(06:53):
charged with. We're gonna outline some of this. We're gonna
go into the hotels. We're gonna go and get some
of the participants. Were really gonna break down how Diddy
got away with doing this for twenty five years. Again,
I still shot a opinion that they were working on
two separate documentaries. They massed them together and used fifty
cent as a cultural shield because they were doing business

(07:15):
with Diddy and they didn't want to be perceived as
sleeves balls, and so they used fifty to be perceived
as the quote unquote sleeves ball in its move. But
I feel as though they was working on two documentaries.
It felt like a smash together project. It felt like
there was a TUPAC documentary going on, maybe with Keefy
D and Diddy was involved, and then there was a

(07:37):
documentary going on about the trial, but the documentary going
on about the trial was the B option. I feel
as though the documentary with Diddy was the A option.
When he bagged out, it left them already invested in
a Diddy type of documentary, and so they wanted to
recoup some of the money. We put both of these together,
put fifty cent involved for the extra marketing and the

(07:57):
high behind some of the ethic behavior that some people
are pointing out, and we'll be able to position it
in the market. Now, fifty cent did come out a
few days ago after the release of Diddy's documentary on
Netflix called The Reckoning and said that Yo I received
some flowers and he said they were from Diddy. Let's
look at what fifty cent said. Pay attention to this. So,

(08:20):
according to this, Diddy sent them some flowers, and he says,
what kind of shit is this? Did he send me
some flowers to Club eleven? While all the four play
get busy? You know I'm stupid or warning I'm nineties grinding?
You don't warn me. Now, let's zoom in on this.
So it says fifty cents name and he says, did
he send him those flowers? If I'm gonna take that

(08:40):
at face value and believe Didd he sent flowers or
someone on Diddy's team sent flowers. What I would say
to fifty cent is this, I believe Diddy to be
sitting in jail. He's passed the upset mode at this point.
He's now gonna get strategic on fifty. And I think
fifty has to be careful because now those flowers would
indicate to me that tag you're it.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now it's your turn.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
So when I do get out, I'm gonna throw all
my financial mic behind trying to figure out what it
is you've been involved in, because you now have established
that it ain't no cod right. We use our money,
we use our resources, We work with white people, We
do documentaries, we do books, we post about it, nigga,
we do interview like y'all an established now in this

(09:23):
new age, ain't no cold. If that's an isshoe, it's
wide open with it. We see these young that'll FaceTime,
they opposition and say I Love you and all kind
of shit like they just on some other shit nowaday.
So if I'm gonna take fifty at face value and
thinking Diddy sent these flowers, he's basically saying, Yo, you
be prepared, son, because when I get out of this jail, cell,

(09:45):
I'm gonna use all my money in influence and hope
you don't got nothing in your closet, because if I'm Diddy,
they've already did everything they can do to me. They
threw a life sentence at me and try to take
my entire fortune. I end up with five years. All
of my cars are on the table. You cannot say
that all of every celebrity cars is on the table. Diddy,
in a weird way, has an advantage now, especially at

(10:07):
the level he's on. Hey, I'm the only one of
my kind and all my cars are on the table,
and I know the places y'all do everything. Yet because
all of us go to the same spots, because there's
this secret society that's what they call the Illuminati. It's
because every one of a certain magnitude and of a
certain stature goes to certain places and does things a

(10:29):
certain way. And so Diddy would be the only one
in that fold or has been in that fold. All
of his chips are on the table. They've took me
to town about what I quote unquote have done. I've
came back with five years and now fifty you standing
over there working with them, people trying to steal All right,
my turn, all this fan love and war.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I've done my time. I get out.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'm still rich, I'm still connected, I'm still diddy.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
We gonna see what this is. Let's figure it out.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Talking to one of my guys the other day, he'd
done made it to account, you know, he on his
last stretch to get out from the fist, and I
was communicating with him, and I was telling them, I'm
out here trying to save lives. I'm out here really
a part of the culture, pushing the right message. And
I'm having trouble with some of these forefathers, some of

(11:20):
these people that's been in position for a while. They
ain't passing the information around. It ain't the money we need,
it's to technique, where to go, where to spend the money,
Who to hit up, who to make this happen? And
no one is communicating in black culture, right, And so
I'm speaking to him about you know, I'm still trying
to save lives. I'm putting it all in the content, right.

(11:40):
Young come up to me, old men, come up to me.
People trying to start shows come up to me say, bruh,
any advice you can give me? I get asked that
at least five times a day when I go out
at least five times a day, and that's within the
span of a couple hours that I'm out, just out,
and about five people are ask me, is that any
advice you can give me? And always trying to tell

(12:02):
him be patient and try to arrive alive. And I
was building on that message because I seen it on
Instagram and I was like, Yo, that's such a great idea, right,
black men, sometimes we have trouble just trying to arrive alive.
And people didn't understand, and so I went to explaining
and breaking it down, and then Yo, I was saying,
it ain't even about getting to your goals. It's about

(12:24):
the condition you're in when you finally get there, because
the distance is more dangerous than the destination. So it's
about how you arrive, what condition you're going to be
in when you arrive mentally, physically, emotionally, financially, spiritually. You
can get caught up and work so hard for something
that by the time you get it, you ain't worth shit.

(12:44):
Now you've caught fatigue you've burnt out right when it's
time for you to shine, right, when the lights are bright,
right when they need you to come through, you can
no longer get it done. You ever seen a rapper
that was on fire in the street. Soon he signed
a deal, he can't produce.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
There's nothing no more.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
There's a number of reasons why, one of those being
the journey is mentally taxing. I notice amongst my peers too,
right when you look at the game, or you look
at the youngsters, all they don't convince is a get
rich quick scheme. Everybody think you can just flip over
and get the money real fast. It take a long
time to get a lot of money. I've heard that
from some people with a whole lot of money, and

(13:23):
so because they think there's this get rich quick scheme,
that expectations lead to that disappointment.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You can't be so quick to want to hit cruise control.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
See, people don't even understand cruise control is a luxury
in life to be able to put your business on
auto pilot. Oftentimes you'll hear people working for a company. Man,
I gotta work on Christmas Eve, and I bet you
the CEO is at home with his family. They really
are not understanding that cruise control is a luxury that
only work can provide. You can't just jump to be

(13:55):
the CEO and don't work on Christmas Eve there was
probably fifteen Christmas. Is that you work prior to these
that they see. And so you can't just hit auto
pilot as soon as you get on the road. You
gotta build up. You gotta shift through the gears and
be a thousand people that just started and want to
go get the rolls Russ and go live in the
bed building and get the big boy condo and the

(14:18):
two three hundred thousand dollars set up.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
But it's unrealistic.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
You gotta know, homie, don't nothing start with momentum that
ain't even a law of physics. And so before you
can even put your life on cruise control, before you
can even compare yourself to somebody that been hustling fifteen
to twenty years, you gotta put it in a proper perspective.
You gotta remember this shit start on foot, this shit
started on fumes. Then you shift through the gears, then

(14:45):
you able to put it in cruise controlling auto pilot.
After you don't put the work in but you can't
skip the work. You gotta have endurance with elevation, and
so if somebody just take you to the top of
the mountain, you'll dis as soon as you get there,
because the climb develops the lungs. And so in the

(15:05):
journeys where you get the tools and the techniques, and
that's why they ain't fuck with you. You pick up
things along the way that you will use when you
get there. You can't be so quick to put your
life on auto pilot. You gotta know what's work to
be done. Even though I'm getting money, I gotta get
information because people is fail from higher than this because

(15:28):
they didn't develop the lungs on the climb. The shit
is like, the further you get in the video game,
the better weapons selection you get. You ever notice when
you play a video game, they start you off with
the little nine millimeter. Once you get three or four
hours into the game, and then you got an SMG
with a scope of silencer and full metal jacket on it. Right,

(15:48):
You get better selection the further you go in the journey.
And some of these suckers are things just because we
both got guns were the same, just because we both
talking were the same man. Listen, man, that ain't what separators,
young blood. See, we both got weapons. We're separated by
our attachments. I'm separated from most of these my technique,

(16:12):
and so I'm one of the few that didn't just
make it out. I made it out with life hit me.
I made it out with my morals intact. That's a
totally different bracket of blessing. I made it out without
a scratch on me. I sit back and I watch
people lose themselves. And the older you get, the more
information you get, you see how life can swallow you hold.
I see individuals they shape shift depending on the room

(16:34):
now in and that's why along the way they lose
themselves and you running the people that knew you and
they don't know you. It's on some get out kind
of shit. You shape shifted to get in so many
different rooms and do with so many different things that
you no longer have any fingerprint on any identity. And
so my flex was never look where I am on it.

(16:54):
My flex is always look what I didn't lose getting here.
You know, there's a skill that required to decode some
of these things just happening in culture, and I think
that a lot of the people that's communicating on behalf
of what's going on or what you're seeing from the
advantage point, they're incorrect. I see this age old situation
in conversation going along or going around about trap Lord Ross.

(17:18):
I've had him on the platform. He's negated to come
back on the platform because when he came on the
platform that was conversation had that I'm not sure he
was able to wiggle his way out of like you
see him doing a lot of these platforms. He did
another documentary about Young Boy and Something with nineteen bodies.
Interesting documentary, interesting piece. I didn't even watch it. I'm

(17:38):
no longer interested in diving deep into some of these
cultural documentaries told from people who I'm sure their understanding
is off. Their understanding is often this is no disrespect
to trap Lord Ross, but you have no understanding. You
have to decode the culture. We intentionally put it in
coded language and there's reason behind that, and get into

(18:00):
that today. I'm gonna unpack that on a major platform
at some point. But I watch people like trap Loo
Ross and other people that operated media move around with
a limited understanding and the rest of development as it
pertains to understanding culture. And all I think about is
it's not necessarily all their fault. They do have to
share some of the blame that grown men. But I

(18:24):
even look at our children. I even look at the youngsters,
and I said, we've also confused them because we haven't
decoded our culture enough. Right, we talk with this high
level slick talk. Right, we talked in a certain way
that you have to have a certain understanding in vocabulary
to even keep up with it.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
If you notice they even in Atlanta at this point,
I am, they ain't even saying the word, but everybody
in Atlanta know what's going on. There's a reason, like
you did, we haven't done a great job at decoding
the culture, and so sometimes our babies are even lost.
There's a message in particular that I don't agree with.
I don't think we should have pushed on the babies,
on the teenagers, or even on the youngsters. In the

(19:08):
entertainment business, you will hear people always say you gotta
have the streets. That's too confused, and we should have
decoded that years ago for our youngsters. I think that
has led us to a lot of violence as it
pertains to our culture, because people has mishandled this term
streets like you gotta have the streets. A lot of

(19:29):
kids and a lot of young rappers took that as yo,
you gotta have a criminal background, you gotta have some
kind of stripes in culture to even be speaking this
kind of way, And that's not what that meant. What
they're saying is you have to have people that enjoy
your music in your city. But because we have been
very lazy with our communication and we've been intentional with
keeping it slick, that's with intention This is our hustle

(19:54):
we're using, so when we communicate it, we can't right.
It's a reason for that. But at the the same time,
our babies are now trying to understand what we're saying,
and something as small lass you gotta have the streets
behind you can lead a young black boy into criminal
culture thinking I can't rap without some kind of stripes
on my back. I can't even be talking like that.

(20:16):
Like I've saw this new culture of rap make children
cars play like they're depressed because some of these rappers
have a close relationship with their grandmother, and that grandmother
raised them because their mother wasn't in their life. I've
saw children whose mother's been there from day one ignore
that fact because their favorite rapper grew up with their
grandmother in thew They I missmiss my grandmama. My grandmama

(20:39):
the only one loved me, right. It's like they're trying
so hard to relate to the rapper.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Again.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Us, as the OG's and the culture, we got to
decode some of it for our babies, not all of it,
like for things of that nature. Like when we say, yo,
get the streets, we ain't talking nothing about no criminal thing.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Go just get people that.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Believe in your music around your way, like let us
see them believe in it. And I also disagree with that.
I think in twenty twenty six that's a feel so
I'm not even sure I agree with none of that.
But at the same time, I do want to clarify
that if somebody entertainment business tell you to go get
the streets, they better clarify that they talking about music.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Don't let these sitting in these.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Million dollar cars and shit send you on no crash mission.
You understand me, But it's good we got shows like
mine now because I understand the young black boys of
watching I'm a d Coode. Some of it for you, youngster.
Just pick up what I'm putting on the ground for
the hungry hound and stay around. I'm gonna make sure
you eat. You hear me. And that's why we don't
listen to these old guys running around. Time were giving

(21:42):
game we give y'all ain't giving no game. Y'all, ain't
hitping nobody in y'all, ain't putting nobody on their feet.
Y'all really putting folks on their back. A lot of
these people are not influencers. They defluence us. A defluencer
is not the same as an influencer. But because we're
in a new age, nobody has categorized it. But you

(22:03):
will have a lot of these old running around talking
about Yo, you ain't gotta choose that life, youngster. That
ain't the message that you should be given. But you's
so far removed. You just running around getting the checks
on behalf of the culture. You ain't really tapped in
the message. Ain't you ain't gotta choose that life. The
message is young, that life to choose you. If you

(22:25):
play the middle for long enough, that life will choose you.
You will find yourself in a situation that'll make you
go to the streets. You know why you will find
yourself arrested. Can't get a job now, you gotta hustle
when you had an opportunity to go the other way.
Because what I find in our young people nowadays is
they play in the middle of the street. They got
on the shisty mask, but they work at Krogus, and

(22:47):
so I don't want to play that game with them.
I want to let them know that you're doing the
right thing when you going to work. But your cars
playing as a gangster, and it come with things that
you ain't gonna be able to shake. When you take
that mask off, you hit me. So you gotta choose
to go the other way. Get out the middle of
the street. The cars belong there, And so we got
far too many young people that's in the middle. They

(23:11):
cars playing is rappers and gangster us, and the rappers
ain't decoding the message because a lot of them don't
know what we told them. A lot of them is
just going on. Some of the game we donne lay down,
but they can't break it down. That's why I'm so important.
That's why I be wondering why they ain't big in
this shit up When they know they can't break it down.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
When they know they can't decode the culture.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
We've been intentional with hiding it from you suckers, so
damn right, we get upset when y'all try sitting and
got it wrong. You don't know what you're speaking about,
and it's not criminal culture.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
You gotta really listen to people that did it.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
All of these you see hiding in the house and
sitting with celebrities, and they out the way, and you
ain't never seen them help nobody, not even they. They
won't even invite other podcasters in the atmosphere. Black Podcast
is in shambles and all these clapping, but I feel safe.
Guess why, I understand they gonna listen to the people

(24:13):
they know done it. It's unfortunate, but see, I'm still alive.
I arrived alive, I'm okay. I ain't like these other
that arrived bid up, beat up, broke. I arrived alive,
and so we ain't on shaky grounds. Ain't nobody man
but them. Don't think I don't see them, and it

(24:34):
don't hurt my feelings. I've always told them I'm the
one made the biscuits from better. I'm the one done
it from scratch, and to God be the glory around
now looking at the new Bens without the bells and whistles,
was just on pins and needles. I was just on
pins and needles. Now I'm looking at the new Bens
without a bells and whistles. Ain't God good? Won't he

(24:56):
do it? But they gotta listen to people who's done it,
people who's experienced. They know they can feel it. You
ain't got to say nothing. They know the texture. You
know the different kind of hoodies. I know that ain't Gucci.
That hood it too light. I know that ain't one
of them. Boy, you ain't even really got to say it.
But in the entertainment industry you gotta beat your chest

(25:17):
because they'll bury you up under bullshit accolades and bullshit connections.
So you gotta be loud and say that I did
it without them.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
God made sure to touch and blessed this thing in
a way where they couldn't interfere with it. And Lord
knows the audience can feel when you relatable. You can't
cars play up close. You can't cars play up close.
One of the few people that actually arrived alive. I
was watching The other day a video went out of
John Cena and Big Show. They're legendary wrestlers, and the

(25:52):
way that they walked told the story. You see John Cen,
he walked and hunched over Big Show, you are the same.
Hunched over seem like they're hurting their wrestlers. They made
their money using their bodies, sacrificing that by the time
you even get the belt, you can't even walk and
hold it up. You can't even enjoy the fruits of

(26:14):
your labor. You've beat your body up to get everything
to feed your people. And most people get here like that,
but they need to hear from people that's actually been
through the journey because you only get the lungs on
the climb. It's confusing because a lot of people are
at the top of the mountain. Some people been brought

(26:34):
there baby, other people have climbed there. You need to
speak with the climbers. That's what I tell my children.
If I can tell you something that's just in a parable,
only talk to the climbers because they the only people
that know how to maneuver. When the kitchen get hot.
They say, pressure bus pipes and see when the kitchen

(26:57):
get hot and the temperature rise. If you've never been there,
you don't know how to react. You'll grab that same
skill it that used to save you, and it escorts you.
Because the temperature has risen. You need a glove to
carry that skillet. Now just to feed yourself, you've now
harmed yourself. Also, let me say this about the did
It documentary. I've been paying attention to fifty cent during
a couple of interviews and I have some questions. So

(27:19):
before we get out of here, I also want to
speak about this. Fifty cent went and done an interview.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
What I believe.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
This is NBC ABC, one of the major news outlets,
and we're going to react to some of what he said,
and I'm going to try to contextualize what I feel,
my opinion, my thought process. Pay attention to fifty cent
on ABC here it is.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
She's the recent trial which saw him acquitted on the
most serious charges, including RICO, but convicted for prostitution crimes
that landed him in prison for about two more years.
Didy's team is also rebutting this project as a quote
shameful hit piece. They note the obtained footage was not
authorized for release. Netflix says they legally obtained the videos.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
In addition to.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Night, another dynamic here is that another famous rapper is
of course behind this film, fifty Cent, who has long
publicly clashed with Diddy and has recently expanded into a
wide range of film and TV projects. He has plenty
to say about Comb's record. A rapper, actor, and producer,
joins me now he's sold over thirty million albums one

(28:27):
all kinds of awards and accolades along the way, and
is now a successful film and TV producer. And we're
also joined by his colleague on the project, Alexandris Tapleton,
an Emmy winning showrunner and director of this series.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Welcome to both of you, ah man, thanks for having us.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Always great to have a fifty day.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah, it's always going to be good.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Great for me. There we go.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's an important project, clearly the question for both of
you fifty first, why this project?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Why now?

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Well, we waited until after the results of the trial
to release the project, but out of almost five months
before I was able to find Alex and finding an
Emmy Award winning show runner and director is detrimental to
the project being really well put together, so you know,
they should expect it to perform like Reggie Jackson's dip.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I think.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Why it's coming out now is we wanted to wait,
you know, to get through all of the legal proceedings.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
All right, we're going high level. We're going high level.
It's up there. So if you ain't, if you ain't
high level, tune out now. I want you guy to
pay attention to just this first part. Listen, we in
the first minute of it. I've already picked something up
that he's putting down. Fifty cent is a well rounded individual.
When I'm being critical of fifty cient being used by Netflix,

(29:47):
I'm not necessarily even saying it's a bad move. I'm
just letting you identify what's going on in real time.
And so when I look at fifty right, he's dealing
with mainstream media, but he's smart. What their whole for
is to throw these questions out cast his wide net,
and if he's emotionally involved, he's gonna always tied back

(30:08):
to some kind of messy shit and try to shit
on Diddy, and they're gonna get these incredible clips in
time spots with fifty demoralizing Diddy on national TV. But
what you have to remain cognizant of is fifty cent
is constantly taking it back to what the numbers the business.

(30:28):
So while Netflix is trying to use fifty he's using
them too, and he's not biting a bait in a
way where they can really mend. Now, I'm gonna get
into something a little later that I think they've used
one of his superpowers against him and he's bit debate,
but in particular on these kind of scenarios when they're
putting him on these mainstream media platforms, and listen, be clear,

(30:52):
there's an agenda attached to them putting fifty cent on
these platforms. To speak about the documentary. Early on, when
Diddy was a ra he threw his hat in the market.
He swung his helm and said, listen, I'll swing at this.
I'll take a shot at this. He let all the
companies know, all of the studios, anyone interested, someone from

(31:12):
coaches powerful is me. I'll come and speak on behalf
of what we feel and give you that notoriety from
hip hop culture that y'all always fiend for. Now they're
hoping to get a crash out fitty in front of
these cameras. That's why some of these questions are like
wide open. But if you pay attention, even when they
intro the video, even when they intro the interview, how

(31:34):
does the mainstream platforms intro the interview with fifty cent
about the Diddy documentary, they always speak to his long
term feud. This is corporate America effectively throwing fifty under
the bus. Now we the kind of that will take
limit and make lemonade, that will take the scraps and
make soul food. So they gotta be careful because he

(31:56):
may know what he's trying to do with it. But
I'm telling you they throwing him under the bus. There's
no reason for him to speak on any kind of
backlash that's been going on on Twitter and Instagram when
there on mainstream media. But there's an agenda attached to
it because that footage that they got was because they
had a working relationship with Diddy. They're using fifty as

(32:18):
a cultural shield. But you must pay attention. Fifty is
not the sword. Fifty is the shield, not the sword.
They've always told you that the line is rowing, ain't
the one that's eating. You can't roar what your mouth
for and so fifty is being used by Netflix. But
fifty is also smart enough. If you're asking me from

(32:39):
a distance, I believe he's smart enough to take this
and still do something with it.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Pay attention to some more.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
I'm the criminal trial and it spans it's four parts,
and it spans over thirty years of you know, pop culture,
his life. So it took some time to say the least,
to put all of this together.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
It's important story, and you could just tell it with
all the public material. You go further. You've got in
your hands on some extra new material people are going
to see for the first time, including this video. Any
journalists would want to know how you got it. But
it is Sean Didy Combs in the heat of this
right before the arrest for the trial. We just discussed

(33:22):
in private moments talking to his lawyer, cameras running.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Let's take a look.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
It's the middle of this of September, and this is
still no indictment that that's do.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
You have to have a spokesman, You have to have
some sort of calms to constantly be pushing that monk,
because you may just be a person that just does
you just may watch CNN.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
So you had y'all you at the wrong place, looking
to see what the people with the possible jurorsy thinking
it could.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Be somebody that that that that has dealt in the
dirtiest of dirtiest dirty business of media in propaganda. Fifty
How'd you get it?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
And what does that scene show?

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Well, I mean, you know you're a journalist, Harvey, Harvey,
you would not disclose your sources.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
We usually don't.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, but I got it.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Yeah, what do he said?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
What do you think it conveys? Because we see.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Let's start right down number one. It's interesting a couple
of different things. I think this clipm in particular, will
have the federal government furious because there's a clear indication
that he was trying to affect the jervy pool. That's
dangerous to let somebody even record me saying that when
if y'all win in the trial, they get this footage,
that's probably could be a mistrial. Well, let's do this
over and let's approach it different because they might have

(34:38):
been beating us on that. That's why they was hitting
did it with witness Tamper in this shit because he
was trying to affect people because he understands marketing. He
comes from this world where the narrative is more important
than the truth, so he tries to get ahead of it.
He also understands how YouTube videos and low level YouTube
was for the most part, uncovered a lot of this
about his sexual background.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
That's number one. Number two.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
This conversation about how fifty got the footage is short
because he's some witty individual. If you're asking me, I
believe the conversation is short because Fifty isn't the one
that got the footage. Netflix had the footage because they
had a working relationship with Diddy. I think Fifty again
for the tenth time, he's the cultural shield so they
can get behind him and say he's the bad guy.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
My new question is fifty gets all the backlash from it,
who gets all the accolades. It feels like fifty understands
that they're trying to put him in a blender because
he comes from the music business and it's a cutthrow business.
It feels like he understands that. That's why he's not
entertaining some of the emotional conversation when they ask him
some of these things. He's wrapping it back around to

(35:43):
the numbers, wrapping it back around to how it should perform.
Wrapping it a back around to how many awards it
could win, Emmys and other things, because he's trying to
stay on a business tip and they're trying to utilize
him like they utilize most of you other guys. You
other guys that get up there and really perform. As
it pertains to this footage, I believe he came from
Diddy working with them, and they knew the camera crew,

(36:05):
and they'll probably hide behind the excuse that, Yo, this
is a camera crew. We always work with fifty work
with them, and he negotiated something we didn't have anything
to do with it, again behind and behind fifty cent,
or it could be the truth. Either way, it's sketchy,
and so they needed to utilize fifty cent from an
ethical standpoint. Now, fifty ain't stupid, he's military minded, and

(36:25):
so I got new questions for him. My question is
why go so hard like this just for some documentary.
Something isn't that up. And so if you're asking me
something else is load and pay attention to a little more.
We'll come back with some more commentary.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Someone trying to pull the strings and talking about he
would say affecting, others would say manipulating, the public views
of the allegations.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
I think that, you know, one big theme of the
series is to go behind the scenes to really understand
how brilliant you could say, Shaw comms is at marketing,
at owning his narrative, controlling the narrative at all times,
and so why would that stop, you know, when when
his wife is on the line. So I think that

(37:12):
you know, on its face, that's what it is. But
as you get deeper in the film, you start to realize,
you know, perhaps how some of these these tactics, you
know how they how they really came to present themselves.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
You know, during the trial you.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Show that his abilities, his early rise, Alexandra. You also
give time to victims of the alleged abuse. Some of
the cases are in different procedural postures, and you show
victims who were women and men. Why is that important?

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Because you know victims of sexual assaults, sexual violence, You
know that that should there should be gender should not
be a part of that conversation. When you are a victim,
you are a victim. And I think that you know,
this series was a platform in a way for these
alleged victims to come forward, give their truth, put context

(38:03):
to their situations when so much of it was ripped out,
you know, and we just went the world was going
for the salacious headlines, the study a.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Girl that's in my group, that was all my last album.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
You're on my last album.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Now all of a sudden, I'm this person on this
monster that Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Glove's coming off.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Alexandria, what is what is this show in the story
you're telling?

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Well, this is a moment where the lawsuits, I would say,
take a turn, and they've become very personal for him.
Don Richard is one of the alleged victims who filed
a lawsuit, and I think that this is a moment
where he was nicked, you know, his armor was nicked.
I guess you could, you could say, because I think,

(38:56):
you know, Sean Combs is a person who probably feels like,
you know, to step to him, especially I legally, is
takes a lot of courage that I don't think he
really assumed that a lot of people were going to have,
even though the Cassie you know, lawsuit had already been out,
and so I think he was a little off balance,

(39:17):
but that quickly turned to anger and fifty the project.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I've seen all four episodes It doesn't feel like a
personality critique. It feels like it goes to the conduct,
the alleged abuse, some of it alleged, some of it proven.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
The searching for these moments, just to be clear, is
emotional attacks. They don't want fifty to bag off the
topic like that, like I never I don't see him
that way. We haven't got there. We had real problems.
I hired his sons. They didn't want that. They put
fifty cent in the forefront of this Dinny documentary to

(39:57):
carry the controversy. And because there's a warrior with kancers,
we lean into the problems, we lean into the beef.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
We'll lean into it. You want a problem, let's have
a problem.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Now they get to use his strength against him and
hopefully this is took and it's no disrespecting necklace, because
this is us just analyzing the game. But you tell
me another documentary that they rolled out with someone in
the way that they're rolling it out with fifty cents
framing the entire conversation around a twenty year beef that

(40:30):
fifty is basically on mainstream television saying.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
It really was nonexistent.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Now, is there something in the backdrop of course did
he win and got his baby mama fifty hiring these kids.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
They're doing little shit to each other, some industry bullshit.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
But now the corporate structure has really weaponized fifty cents
strength as it pertains to controversy, and they've hired him
to carry the controversy at this documentary. I've never seen
him roll a documentary out like this. I've seen him
sit actors and other things on promo runs and then

(41:08):
going and do press. I've never seen him roll it
out this way. And I just think you got to
pay attention to that. And I know fifty is probably
paying attention because he's not biting the bait.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
He ain't diving our way in. They'll have salava dripping
from their mouth.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
If he was going straight nuclear like, if he was
starting to go mainstream media and unveil things, then just
the culture talks about and just right, they want him
to unpack it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
And he won't do it.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Now. I still believe him to be in a position
with Didi saying you've done enough, you might as well
cut me all the way down.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
But for some reason, he's not going all the way
nuclear Dinny in this.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
And so although he's not getting too emotional. He's still
in a scenario where he's crossed the line, but some's
not allowing him to go nuclear on him, and that's
what they're looking for. I want to be clear about that.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Pay attention now and the tragic deaths of both Tupac
and Biggie. I think that for us, it was really
important to understand some of the dynamics of those three
Sean Combs, Biggie and Tupac and what was really going
on behind the scenes. That often gets lifted because everyone

(42:21):
just wants to talk about, you know, the murder, you know,
and and not to really digest why.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
But do you think of viewers left with the impression
that he was responsible.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
I think that that's really up to the court system
and not and not to me or the or the
film we're just presenting. You know, things that have been
reported on have been said by keify D you know himself,
repeatedly and you know the LAPD love go on.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
No, No, I'm just saying what he was saying.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yeah, and you're speaking about a key person who some
people would say, oh, that's strong evidence. Other people would
say when you get into years later and people with
various agendas. You don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
No, let me address some of the other things before
we get out of here. My question still remains, why
is fifty cent leaning into this documentary so heavy? And
because I understand fifty cent to be someone that's military minded,
very strategic, I believe he has to have something else
loaded with Netflix. I don't see him putting all of

(43:32):
this force behind this one check and one opportunity with Netflix.
I'll reiterate that I believe the flyer was sent from Diddy,
was a message or from someone that works for him,
was a message that Yo, it's your turn when I
get out, gonna throw our financial mic behind trying to
figure out if you could be indicted for some charges

(43:53):
they've already stripped me. The Emperor now has no clothes
and it's your turn. And I think fifty cent is
from the streets. He understands that nobody is bigger than
the program, and maybe he got arrogant at this point.
I don't know, but there's an old saying that it's
been living way longer than all of us, that you're
not bigger in the program, and even if you are

(44:15):
bigger in the program, you ain't bigger in the handbook.
As big as the elephant is, as massive as it
is the jungle, it's still superior. You are never bigger
than the program. So again, I think he has to
watch out for that. But I would love to know
the amount of money fifty cent was paid to take

(44:35):
on this documentary because he's actually going back and forth
right now with Marlon Wayne's online, Right, And you don't
step in front of a firing squad like this if
you're fifty without something else in the backdrop, first look, agreement, sponsorships,
what is it? What's in the backdrop of this Diddy documentary?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Move?

Speaker 3 (44:53):
You have a juror in here? What did that show
us about this case? Because there is a tension within
all this. It's no stranger to many people that the
justice system fails in all sorts of ways. You show
how it failed survivors and Cassie clearly at the same
time he beat the case of New York. I remember

(45:16):
the day it happened, and I looked at fifties Instagram
for ditty news, as so many Americans do. And in
all fairness, fifty said, Okay, did he beat a big
part of the case? Right? You said, many people think
that was an unjust outcome. But when talking to the jurors,
what did you find Because the film looks at all

(45:39):
of this horror, but then finds that a jury of
his peers in New York, ultimately in this era, said
they didn't the government did not prove the whole reco case.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's really complicated, and I
think that to break down what went right and what
maybe went and left or wrong in that trial is
a whole that's a whole other documentary. But I think that,
you know, we have two jurors, two very different types
of New Yorkers, you know that that were interviewed in
the film, and I think that when you talk to them,

(46:12):
I mean, it was very clear to me that they
stood behind that decision. They stood behind it one thousand
percent and because they felt it based on the charges
that were presented by the federal government, and that is
that they could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that
Shawn Combs was guilty of you know, rico, that they overcharged,

(46:34):
that they overcharged. I think that when you get into
the you know, I don't know if our laws or
a legal legal system are the best when it comes
to the gray matter of sexual assaultion.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Tanks out in front of his house are like they
made a bigger, more extreme approach to the investigation.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
So you think the government did basically saying what was
still strong evident.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
They did overdo it.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
They never did it.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
They did Grady, he beat the case. To me that
what he was charged with, that that's a victory like
that to end up with fifty months when you had
your life on the line as a victory, you know.
But to be the only person that's incarcerated for hiring
and transport mail prostitutes, it's different.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, life on the line also a fifty lyric.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Again, you see fifty handle it in a way where
he doesn't just stump Hi Matt and fifty again is
a smart man. You're going to see him in the
coming days. And I've already seen him started. Now he's
doing interviews and saying, yo, I was the only one
speaking up and if nobody from hip hop comes out
and says anything, then we might co sign the behavior.
I believe fifty didn't know that. That's not the case

(47:48):
because in the streets, you talking to mind your business.
In the streets, things happen and he comes up in that.
And so the bigger the business is, the more of
a politician people become, and they understand the aguage in
verb is to be able to slither their way out
of some of the uncomfortable situations. I think fifty is
gonna stand on it, but I think he's driven itself

(48:09):
into a cave that he doesn't profit the most off of.
He's been hired by Netflix to put it in Layman's terms,
to carry the controversy of a documentary and be from
colture and hide behind a cultural shield. But he's not
the sward. And I'm seeing them post things like yo,
I want all the smoke what for? What about a documentary?

(48:31):
I want all the smoke about a documentary? We too
level headed to let them triggers like that love one
about a doc I want all the smoke about a
documentary that ain't no fifty action dot com.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
It's on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Netflix is cloaked behind me as fifty cent for every
piece of backlash. Now, let's see when the Emmys and
all these other awards come out, what does the accolades
go to. I would love to see the accolades go
to fifty the same way the backlash is going to fit.
Nobody saying Netflix, y'all dirty mother. Everybody's saying fifty wrong.

(49:05):
But y'all fed these animals for years and they didn't
have our skin color. Y'all go and sit with platforms
and run over the white people and tell these stories
and give them and break down our anacular in front
of people who don't have any real interest of understanding.
They just want to sell the story. It's hot at
the time, So we've prostituted our entire culture for the

(49:27):
entire duration of it. But I'm wondering, what is in
the backdrop of this deal with fifty in Netflix. It
has to be more. It has to be a multi
doc deal, it has to be first look agreements, it
has to be something else in the mix. Again, I
understand fifty is in green lid at Netflix. Everybody looks

(49:47):
at fifty, great business man, But when it comes to Netflix,
it ain't just like he got a green light over there,
and so he's earning his key. He's doing a business
play against someone I don't care for from our culture.
And usually you protect your own and you discipline your own.
In prison, they'll take care of one of their own
like you stole something from one of them dudes over there. Y'all,

(50:11):
don't do nothing, will take care of We'll discipline him.
I just think it's an interesting dynamic. At the end
of the day, man, we're gonna see if Netflix do
any more business with fifty. If they don't, then we
know that my theory was true. But I imagine they will.
And not only that, I think it opens the doors
for other people that want to take these kind of

(50:32):
swings in culture. There's always gonna be two sides in
hip hop, man, because it's damnar like a sport man
shirts and skins, you understand me. It's like football, basketball,
any other thing. That's gonna be teams, that's gonna be alliances,
that's gonna be cool clubs. It's gonna be people kicked out,
it's gonna be people invited in. It's just an interesting industry, man,

(50:54):
and I'm gonna continue to watch it. We're not gonna
have a long episode today. But I want to ask y'all,
have you paid attention to how they're handling Max b
in the media versus how they handled people from the South,
people like Young Thug and others from the South. Maighborhood
who came out of jail. When Max b has people
who actually are going around saying that he's the reason

(51:15):
I'm in jail. I want you guys to understand when
there's an orchestrated hit or there's a cool on people
in hip hop, and it's unfortunate that a lot of
the people that are controlling some of the conversations, they're
not even us.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
They're not from the culture.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
They didn't grow up playing kickball or football, or football
up the hill. They didn't grow up playing nick knock
or you know what I'm saying. In some of these neighborhoods,
they're like outsiders to the culture and they're running some
of the cultural conversations that people are bowing down to them.
It's a very interesting time. I've told people this years
ago that because some people are black, that does not

(51:54):
mean they identify with our experience. The Black American has
a very unique experience and it's much more complex than
the rappers are able to communicate on music and the
movies are able to illustrate to visual entertainment. And because
the labels all pump up and do business with anyone,
they don't care if you're from the culture or not.
If you have an audience, they'll they'll utilize you for

(52:14):
your fan base. And they've actually funded a lot of
these individuals to get them to positions to be able
to dictate what's going on in culture in certain pockets.
But we got to be intentional with our brands. We
got to be intentional with our advice. I see a
lot of these little doing things and they don't make
sure none of the dons is in the building. I'd
be like, it's a goofy fist. It's a bunch of

(52:36):
goofballs in one spot, and they wonder where none of
the real there're no opinions about them because they ain't
hearing you talk, and they ain't seeing you live streams,
or they ain't paying attention to that shit. You know
what I'm saying. You ain't tapped in with the people.
That's tapped in with the people. There's a very interesting
dynamic going on. But now people are seeing like you

(52:56):
go on these Twitter pages and it's from Australia, is
from Germany and Nigeria and that Kendrick Bot pages and shit,
and it's like I've been telling y'all this the reason
I know that they're not one of our kindness because
they're blatant misunderstanding of culture. I'm saying, yo, these black,
but they ain't us. You ain't even gotta tell me
where you're from, just your misunderstanding of what you looking at.

(53:20):
I'm saying, man, some of the black talking about culture,
but they ain't really us. They got black skin, they
blending in. But based on what he's saying, I understand
he don't understand, so he can't be one of us.
Because once again, the journey gives you the understanding. When
you've been imported and just placed in hip hop boom,

(53:41):
now you part of this thing of ours. Yo, some
of the language, you ain't gonna understand, the handshakes, the
origin stories. You don't know what's going on. You don't, man,
you gotta do the knowledge. Nigga was born in and
not sworn in it. But let's talk about that, right.
I don't really know the temperature would max me, but
I do know there's allegations on his name, right. I

(54:02):
don't really speak on it. I don't give a about it,
but I do understand it. They're they are, and I
just want the audience to see how they're handling that
versus how they handle Young Thug or Gunn or some
of the people from the South. There's vitrioll on the
South because there's a blessing on our Southern states. That's
not a water, that's not a beef. But some of

(54:23):
these guys have cursed souls. Some of these guys have
evil spirits. The Young Thug situation ain't even got nobody
tied to it. It's an interrogation room video, and they
took the Internet by storm. The Max b situation got
people trying to do interviews and they've called me and
I've turned it down. So I'm not interested in exposing it,

(54:44):
but I want to expose the people behind some of
the orchestrated hits, right, but pay attention to it. If
there was a Southern artist, say that was Pooshi's to
getting out of jail and it's two three people, it's
a girl floating around saying he told or it's his
brother saying y'all want to do an interview. They'll be
a on their platforms every day speaking about that bit.
Because it's someone from New York up north, they're gonna

(55:05):
put a shield around it and they ain't gonna speak
about it because they got to deal with running into
some of them guys pay attention to that. Look at
how academics even talks the main Oh, because there's a
chance that I might run into Mayo, So he don't.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Make no problem, Jim Jones, man, know this not this right.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
So because they're so far away from the South and
reporting on the South, I think that also gives them
leadway to say certain things and handle certain things certain ways.
But if we're gonna be fair across the board, they
would have had a conversation about the max B thing.
I'm not interested in doing it because I don't really care.
Who done told no more? This shit is below my
pay grade? Yeah nah, no, No, My pay grade now

(55:46):
is who don't win public? How much money these folks
done got. Now we're still standing on integrity, but all
that shit, who done told shit? That shit below my
pay grade? Yeah, we're trying to take companies public, man,
we're doing big business right. So I'm just saying, like,
keep me out of the low level, low budget, low
peon ad leon shit and just keep me top tier.

(56:09):
You understand me. But I appreciate y'all watching to day. Man,
y'all know what it is. It's up that podcast. Make
sure y'all here like and shall let somebody know you
was there. Make some clips, take me in the clips.
I'll repost them. Let the people know. Man, we always
listening to It's Up There podcast. That's the only place
we get the game at. Man.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
That means something. Man, I really appreciate y'all. Love y'all.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
You know that I ain't gotta keep saying it, don't
you know it? Tell the truth, don't you know it?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Though? All right, then, over and night, I see y'all
in a few days. Let's get it
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