June 25, 2024 • 54 mins
This week, Tommy is joined by acting powerhouses Jared Padalecki and Genevieve Padalecki for a rare joint interview. Jared is of course best known for his iconic role as Sam Winchester on the CW series Supernatural which ran for an incredible 15 seasons. He first gained national attention playing Rory’s charming and loyal boyfriend Dean on Gilmore Girls. Fast forward to today, he developed and stars in Walker on the CW which is airing its series finale on June 26th. His beautiful wife Gen is best known for her starring roles on the ABC Family series Wildfire, and of course the legendary Supernatural. She just finished playing Emily alongside her husband in Walker. Today Jared and Gen open up about how it has been processing the end of a show that means so much to them, what they have most learned about themselves through doing the series Walker, growing up on television in front of the world for most of their lives, the ways in which they work towards keeping their commitment and marriage strong while balancing demand jobs and a busy family life, what would make Jared say yes to a Supernatural reboot, their biggest personal and professional dreams, the importance of paying attention to our mental health, one of the most embarrassing things that has ever happened to Gen, and so much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,
Tommy di Dario. Today is a very special episode because
I have two wonderful actors on my show who also
happened to be in a marriage that makes the entire
world say well hashtag couple goals. The talented Jared and
Jen Padlechi are here today, and man, we had so
(00:24):
much fun chatting. I could have kept them for eight
hours because the conversation just kept flowing. They are such
good human beings and I loved this chat. Jared is
of course best known for his iconic role as Sam
Winchester on the CW series Supernatural, which ran for an
incredible fifteen seasons, but he first gained national attention on
Gilmour Girls, playing Rory's charming and loyal boyfriend Dean, another
(00:48):
fan favorite character, and fast forward to today, he developed
and stars in Walker on the CW, which is airing
its series finale on June twenty sixth. Now, his beautiful wife,
Jen is best known for her starring roles on the
ABC Family series Wildfire and of course, the legendary series Supernatural.
She also just finished playing Emily Walker on the hit
(01:10):
series Walker alongside her husband, of course, and aside from
gracing us with their talents on screen together, Jared and
Jen are passionate about the planet and they promote a
more sustainable way of living, and they really encourage us
to get out in nature.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Doesn't that sound amazing?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, I'm all about peace, putting my device down, getting
in nature. Sign me up today. We chat all about
their fan favorite projects. We get a deeper glimpse into
a relationship that so many people look up to, and
we connect on some really personal levels.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We go deep. So let's see if.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We can get Jared and Jen to say something that
they have never said before.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Jared and Jen, it is so good to see you guys.
How you feeling today?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Feeling good? Yeah, feeling good. We were in Europe for
a few weeks with kids how to Blast, so there's
a bit of jet lag still so little like, where
are we okay? Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah? A little discombobulated, I think right now.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Jet leg is real.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I go to Europe probably once a year, and I
always feel like it takes me a couple of days
to recover. So I appreciate you being here and showing
up and happy belated Father's Day. Very happy related. Thank you,
very very nice. I'm happy you guys are here, so
thank you again. We have so much to get to God,
we don't want to begin. I guess let's begin with
(02:35):
the fan favorite show that is sadly coming to an end,
which is Walker, and the big series finale is airing
on June twenty sixth, and man, people are people are
not ready for it. They're not ready for it. So Jared,
we'll start with you. You know, how are you processing something
like this coming to an end, something that means so
(02:55):
much to so many people, including yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I'm sure, yeah, no, thanks, thank you for the question.
Funny enough, this is the first time I've really spoken
about it, because I found out on a Tuesday and
was asked if I would be willing to share the
information with our Walker family and our extended kind of
supernatural family come a girls family, this and that people
who are tuned into the show. I haven't really had
(03:19):
time to really digest it just yet, because two days
later I went to Europe and got back four weeks later, essentially,
so I haven't really digested it yet. It's heartbreaking. Man.
I'm erect. You know, had our final mix and that
was a pretty intense session. A lot of tears in
the last four weeks, but I think this is important.
(03:41):
They weren't for me, you know. They were tears for
the amazing cast and crew and their families. And we
just had a blast, and we went through pandemic and
we went through the strikes and an incredible family not
only on screen and behind screen, but the people who
view and watch and have talked with the show and
asked quiet and express their excitement with it. So I'll
(04:04):
get back to you on that next time. But I
haven't really had the time yet to sit and digest it.
I'm kind of sometimes quick to have perception but slow
to have perspective, Like I have to sleep on something,
and I'll have to sleep on this a lot. But
I'm so proud of the family and the friends that
we got to meet and work with, and that'll be everlasting.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And Jen, I know for you, you put on Instagram
that this was a dream project for you to be
a part of.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Why so I.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Think, to sort of echo what Dared's saying, it really
has become a family of sorts and for us to
work from home, you know, to be able to take
the kids to school and then either visit Jared while
he's working, show our kids how our lives behave you know,
when we're not at a hope to see us. You know,
(04:57):
when we're not at home. It's not normal for them
to be able to experience that. You know, when Jared
was on Supernatural is when the kids we had our children,
and then we moved to Austin and Jared would commute
once they started school, and so they never really got
to experience the day to day. And so it's been
a dream because I felt like we didn't sacrifice.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
A whole lot, which is a I mean, I love
the sacrifice in a project, and I love we talk
about sacrifice often with our kids, about you know, the
sacrifices that we both make in traveling and.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Working for our family. This one was just the ultimate
dream because to play a role alongside my husband and
my partner and so many different levels and have so
much fun with that, but also have truly the dreamiest
cast and crew. I mean every cast we worked with,
(05:49):
every crew we've worked with, is exceptional. We feel incredibly
lucky and blessed to be able to really say that
every you know group, it has been incredible but this
one in particular for us, just because it was in
our backyard and it was a collective that. I mean,
(06:11):
they will be family for the rest of our lives,
you know, like they have just left an induble mark
on all of us and our kids and our family,
and it's just it's been dreaming on so many different levels.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So for the finale, are you both satisfied with how
it wraps up? And now you can't share too much,
but are you happy with how it ends?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's a great question. Yes. So we knew while filming
the finale that it might be the series finale, and
we took that into account. There are many meetings behind
the scenes about like what should we do with these characters?
Those characters. I feel like every character has a proper
final moment, so to speak. So I am happy with
(06:55):
the finale. I'm not happy that it's the finale, but
I am happy the characters all get a proper send off,
which we were prepared for. We weren't expecting it, but
we weren't. We knew it was a possibility. You know,
we remained the most watch show on the network, and
we came in under budget, and we weren't their most expensive.
So we were like, okay, cool, like we can come
(07:15):
back and play again in the sandbox. That didn't happen
is what it is. But yes, yeah, I love the melopy.
I watched it last night as a matter of factor,
and lots of tears, all tears. I watched most of it.
It was blurry at times because I was trying to
wipe tears away. But yeah, it's very horribleming.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know, with every new project, with everything that we
take on, it's like a new chapter of our lives,
right and the Walker chapter for you both, I'm sure
you grew a lot, you learned a lot, you discovered
a lot. So is there something that you can both
think of that you feel like you learned about yourself
through doing this series or through being a part of
it for you know, the last few years.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, God, great question. So Walker was hatched in twenty
nineteen and my trailer season fourteen of Supernatural because we
Jenson and I had talked about season fifteen the next
year being the last season of Supernatural, and I was
sort of like, well, maybe I retire, like I've been
doing TV like Gilmore Girls. It was gonna be a
(08:16):
twenty year career. I was like, cool, I missed my family.
I'd like to get to know them. Then COVID happened
in twenty twenty, and so I was down here with
Jen and our kids. We still had about two or
three weeks to shoot Supernatural to wrap it up, but
we knew Walker was coming next. I'm coming in Austin,
and so I had a lot of time to think
and spend time with the family, and a lot happened.
(08:39):
And I hate talk about myself, but this is a
funny situation because like Kilmore Girls for five years, I
left to do Supernatural, and then Supernatural we knew it
was ending season fifteen. We announced it, Hey, this could
be the final season. But Walker was kind of like
the rug got pulled out. So I always had a
job coming up, something to work for, and so I
(09:01):
think one of the things that I'm realizing and I'm
still kind of fresh into it because it's been less
than a month since finding out we're not come. It's
weird because this time, you know, mid June, I'm always
not working. That's a strange way to say it, but
it's usually like, oh, we're prepping for the next season.
So yeah, it's time off. Kids are in summer, I'm home,
(09:22):
we're traveling here maybe hopefully. So it hasn't really hit yet.
I think once like August, September, October come around and
I'm like, why am I not like memorizing lines to
go to work. Then it'll probably hit again, you know.
But it hasn't really hit. But I feel life goes
on and it's not always how you expect. And so,
(09:44):
kind of to your prior question about our thoughts on
the finale, it occurred to me that if Walker ended
after any episode in the four seasons, I'd be satisfied,
you know, because the riders, the brilliant riders behind the
scenes every episode wonderfully, Like we weren't writing to have
some big, oh my gosh, like what's happening next, Like
(10:06):
it's what's right for the characters. So it just felt
like this is life, and we're going to go through life,
and this is this episode, this is the next But
it wasn't like we were trying to trick people into
got to tune in next week, got to tune in
the following week. It was sort of like, hey, here's
here's a week in the life of the Walker family.
Their friends, their colleagues, et cetera. And so to some extent,
I'm kind of right now thinking about life in general,
(10:29):
and sometimes, you know, it goes longer than you'd expect.
Sometimes it doesn't go as long as you'd hope, and
just kind of do your best along the way because
you never know. And I think we all did our best.
So I'm trying to hang my hat on that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I love that. And what about you, Jen Gosh, I.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Learned I mean on every job. I think, at every
adventure in life, you know, or every fork in the
road or project. I think, no matter what, I hopefully
you continue to learn from it. And I think particularly
with this one. You know, we met on Supernatural, which
filmed in Vancouver, got married, started a family. My career
(11:04):
took a back seat while we had kids, and you know,
Jared was working, and then when our kids started school,
I was really full time in Austin and he would
commute from Vancouver to Austin. And I had a set
way of life and a certain structure to things and
the way that the kids were being raised, and you know.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
That particular flow and for me, Walker was sort of
all encompassing because it really incorporated our family life into
our work life, and then on top of that, as
our kids have grown up a bit more, it's also
given me more space to find more creative pursuits as well.
So I think within that Walker space, I've been able
(11:48):
to play again as far as my acting is concerned,
have a voice. We co produce, although that's really your
line and share with Walker, but yeah, I mean, he's
so generous with saying that he's the lines there of
producing Walker. But yes, it's been I've sat and been
(12:08):
part of those meetings and privy to those meetings, and
sort of to preface that, I'm kind of one of
those people that feels like they have to go to
college to like have some sort of voice in a
situation like I have to go to college. I have
to get my masters to be able to be a producer,
you know, even though I've also been in this industry
for I guess twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Years, I guess. But I think what this has done
has been like a really gentle introduction for me into
the other side of things and the inner workings of
production and what goes into it and also you know,
which has been really nice and that I say it
it's gentle because I've been able to watch and be
(12:51):
a part of these meetings and now you know, we're
also in the process of producing projects together that we're
sort of bringing to life, the seed to the next chapter,
next chapter, but also to be able to wear the
hat of a mother and producer and heart and so
(13:11):
as you. But it's just I didn't I wasn't in
that place before. I believe, you know, I would jump
into supernatural here and there, but I didn't really do
anything other than that. I just didn't have the space
and we just didn't have you know, our marriage and
our family really comes first, so we had to make
sure that that was intact and really strong in that,
(13:33):
you know, in order for that, you know, for me
to be able to do other things or you know,
find projects or wherever. We had to really make that
was really solid and our kids were really solid. So
for Walker, it just developmentally for me, was just a
way for me to feel confident in really expanding my wings,
so to speak.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, that is so fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I love when I hear things like that, because you know,
a lot of people feel that way.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A lot of people feel.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Like, oh, I didn't necessarily study something so I can't
possibly pursue it or I'm not going to be taken seriously.
But it's it's not about that, and so many of
us feel that way. In fact, my husband is an
anchor on Good Morning America. It's like he reached his
highest dream ever and he still says, oh, I always
wish I went to a better university, And it's like, well, why,
(14:21):
like why, what does that have to do with anything?
Look at what you're doing, you know. So I feel
you Gen on that. I think a lot of people
feel you on that. But it's so cool that both
of you have created this life together where you are
able to do the work you love and you are
able to put yourselves as a couple and as a
family first and seemingly you know, manage it the best
that you can. And we're going to get into that
(14:41):
in a BIX. I'm so interested in the dynamics of
all of that with any relationship. But something that came
to mind when you both were talking is that you've
both been in this industry for most of your lives.
You've grown up in front of people essentially right, You've
been working, working, working, and even gen even though you've
taken breaks to you know, raise your family. You've been
doing it like you've been doing it from an early
(15:03):
age too, So how the hell did the two of
you grow up on TV and in the spotlight? Because
I would be a hot mess.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well we are hot messes, or at least we're messes.
You're hot, we're messages. A fair question. I think what's
funny is that these days, and with our kids, we
have a twelve year old boy, a ten year old boy,
seen year old girl, we're seeing how rapid things are
happening with like social media and everybody has a device
(15:33):
and people are growing so rapidly. I think for Gen
and me both, it was kind of like I joke
that I'm like that twenty four year overnight success. Like
it was slow, like when Gilmore Girls, I was seventeen
years old in two thousand, left college to do four
episodes of a show, and I'm doing eighty or something,
but there was no Netflix, there was no streaming app
(15:55):
there was no DVR yet, Like we were recording it
on vhs, like on a v to go back and
try and watch. So it was very slow, Like I
didn't get recognized until probably season two or three of
Gilmore Girls, so I was like able to pay my bills.
I wasn't driving fancy cars. I'm not driving in fans
cars now. But I'm saying like I was a working
(16:15):
actor at the time. But by no means was it like, Okay,
this is going to be a viable job for me
to do. Like we'll see, and we'll see. I'll get
back to because something she said and we've talked about
just today makes me think of that. But it happened
really slowly. And then I think because of the shows
we've done, the movies we've worked on, it's not like
(16:37):
somebody in the street sees us and goes like, oh,
you were part of that scandal blah blah blah blah,
take a picture. Like people either don't know who the
hell we are and don't give a shit and we're
human beings, or they're like, hey, I love that show
you did. Hey, my daughter and I watched Gilmore Girls
and we bonded. Hey, my brother and I watched Supernatural
and we bonded. Hey, my family watches or wildfire Walker
(16:58):
or whatever. So it's not like when someone comes up
to take a picture or say hi, it's not like, hey,
someone said you're famous. Let's do a picture so I
can get some likes on social media. It's like, hey,
that scene where you talk to your brother or father
or son or friend or whatever, like it meant a
lot to me, and I thought about it and that
it meant something, and so I feel like our level
of fame or a celebrity, however you would try and
(17:21):
quantify or measure that has been commensurate with the work
we've put into it. So people don't come up to
us and say like, hey, I here a you're famous.
They come up and say like, hey, I love that
show you did, Like I bonded with some other human
being over some project you did. And that makes me
think about like bands I loved growing up, or sports
teams or TV shows or movies, and it's like, oh,
(17:42):
you look that too, like let's talk and you get
to meet somebody. And so it wasn't like we, you know,
blasted into infamy like some kids these days that I
feel for the teenagers and twenty some things that all
of a sudden are enormously famous and their life changes
and they haven't been to really gradually deal with it,
(18:02):
you know. The progression of it. The in Criminal Progression, I.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Will say, I literally came out of college and got
a lead of a TV show and I had never
been on.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
TV, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It's so crazy, and I'm so that really was for me.
I'm so grateful to Lloyd Segen and Sean and Michael
Piller who believed in me, because I don't know who
else would hire some person who's never been on TV before.
But I'm so grateful because I was so I was
so lucky, but I was so green. And I also
at the time thought I've made it, like, you know,
(18:36):
I'm number one on a call sheet, and then I
ate some humble pie because I got right off of Wildfire,
and then I was back to auditioning again, you know.
So I'm really grateful for those experiences because that, you know,
this industry is full of humble pie. And I think
it's a lesson that we teach our kids often or
echo it and repeat it often, which is kindness is free.
(18:58):
So you know, on Wildfire, you know, I'm still I'm
grateful that I wasn't a little shit, but I definitely,
you know what, I thought, I was pretty cool being
number one, and I'm grateful for the relationships that I have.
I just feel like it's allowed me to be open
because every experience, in every situation is so different, and
(19:23):
you know, to if we're a bunch of carnies and
just to be a part of that circus together and
you know those orbits, and it's just it's really it's
really special.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, one thing that definitely strikes me is the two
of you are both you lead your lives with gratitude
and you're humble and you appreciate all the opportunities that
have come your ways. And that's very cute and saying that.
You know, you have a lower profile than you actually do.
But when I announced you guys as my guest, the
questions flooded in and people were so excited and they
(20:01):
were like, oh my god, we've been waiting for this forever.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So it's very cute.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
But I'm here to say, you guys are the shit,
So settle down with that and let's feel here for
a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But you know what's.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So cool about the two of you two is you
you have developed these amazing careers and lives and personal
and professional lives. I want to say, because it's not
just about the work, it's about having that personal life
that is fulfilling as well.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But it's so.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Challenging in any career when you have two busy people
and you're trying to balance it all, right, So how
do you keep that commitment so strong without burning out
or without letting it fall to the back burner, because
that is something that you know a lot of people struggle.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
With out there.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
There are I mean, there's several things that we do
and I will say it's it's seasonal too. It's not
that this is what we do every Monday. It's sort
of seasonally where are we in our own individual headspace
and then where are we together and where the kids
and you know, so there's a lot that goes into that.
I will say a big part of that is therapy.
(21:04):
We're very open about being in therapy. Our kids are
in therapy. It's important for us to have that outlet
to check in and be honest and work on things
in our relationship, having conversations with each other and being
open and honest. And I think for me, what I
had to do was give up feeling like this is
(21:26):
how a nuclear family lives, and I need to live
like a nuclear family and I'm going to raise my
kids this way. And we show up every night for
dinner together, and I make dinner and he sits down
and we all talk about this and he alps with
the mathwork. We don't have that kind of life, you know,
or even parenting styles. We have very different parenting styles.
And sometimes, you know, in the beginning, sometimes I would
(21:48):
get frustrated because Jared would come in from Vancouver and
he would be the fun dad and I was like, well,
it's bedtime.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Who wants.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
And I think, at least for me, I want to
speak for you. But I had to go, where am I?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What do I love?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
What are the things that I love?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Where?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You know, I love this human so much, he's not
the things that I infrustrated by are the things I
actually love about him? And so you also for me,
you had to say I had to let go of
certain things about the perfection of it all and about
living our lives in a nuclear way, like we just
don't have that lifestyle. We chose this lifestyle. We chose
(22:26):
to get into this acting industry. Granted we didn't.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
I don't think we thought, oh wow, we'll be forty
with three kids and a mortgage, and you know, like
there's some real stuff with life that we.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Have to deal with. But we don't have a traditional
life and that's okay. And so I think for me,
I had to let go of some of that traditional parenting,
traditional marriage and ideals, and not to say that we
don't have you know, we have our contract, we have
our relationship, we have our marriage. You know that that
(22:58):
is at the core and very important to us. But
you know, he can't be it in there every weekend,
even every night with the kids, and so when we
do have that time, it's very important, it's very sacred
to us. But you know, it's challenging because it's not
every Thursday night or something. You know, it's it's evolving
and so sometimes sort of our friends and friend group
(23:21):
that can be challenging because we cannot be consistent all
the time and I've just had to make plans. Yeah,
it's hard.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well, yeah, I think to our point, I think it's
it's interesting. And as you get older and your life
goes here and there, you realize that there are certain
people in your world that they're around when you do
what's best for them, and then there are those in
your world that when you do what's best for you,
they're even more excited and that becomes even better for
them than doing what they think might be best for them.
(23:50):
And however, many aspects, So you're talking about other people,
like other professionals who are going through this, and that
they're in a relationship or they're not, and things seem
high and low. Tattoo it says if it's a poem
by Rudyard Kipling, and there's a great couplet in it
that says, if you can meet with triumph and disaster
and treat those two impostors just the same. And so
I think that's where I kind of try and live,
(24:12):
you know, like right now I'm jobless for the first
time in twenty four years, Like I've always had a
job to look forward to. So seemingly it's a disaster,
right like, oh shit, I don't have any work, Like
I'm not reading through a script, so it's seemingly a disaster.
It'll change, and so there are highs and lows, and
especially in a relationship, she'll have highs and lows because
(24:33):
she's a human being. I'll have highs and lows because
I'm human being. If we seek to communicate with each other,
and there might be times where she's like, hey, maybe
I'm overly doting or something, and she's like, I just
eat some space. It's like, got it, and it's not about me,
it's about her, and vice versa, when she wants to
do this or that, and I'm like, hey, I don't
want to be a Debbie downer. I just need to
(24:53):
stay home, like I'm going to go go for a
walk or listen to album I love or something, and
she gets it. And so that mutual trust of like
growing alongside each other but also realizing you're not growing
at the same speed at the same rate, like sometimes
I'm here, she's there. Sometimes vice versa, and often we're here,
but just listening and communicating, being like, hey, can I
(25:15):
do anything? No, you need you time? Cool, take you time.
I'll hang with kids or whatever. Get out your hair,
and not taking offense by you know, like we're all humans,
like we all we're all gonna have highs and lows. Otherwise,
what's the point of living, right if you're not going
to have your highs and your lows and hopefully find
some balance.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
One hundred percent, I couldn't agree more so this is
something that I was very interested in, you know, as
I was thinking about our conversation today, and I want
your both of your perspective on this. So, for one,
you mentioned thinking about retiring from acting, So is that
something you're still considering or is that kind of on
the back burner or you're you don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm always considering it. There are some stories I really
want to tell, want to help tell. Like I know,
I've even really considered myself an actor. I consider myself
a storyteller and there happened to be a camera pointed
at me or something. So I love the process. I
love developing things. I love reading a book and going,
oh my god, this would be amazing as a TV show,
as a limited series, as a movie. Like, people who
(26:16):
aren't often readers still need to see these tropes, these
archetypes delivered in this way. I'm not retired from acting.
I'm excited about some stuff we have coming up, but
I'm not excited about the industry. I guess so if
it can be done in such a way. There was
another wonderful think about Walker is when Mark Pettwitz was
(26:37):
running CW. He kind of said, like, what kind of
stories would you hope to tell if you could, And
we went through some ideas. I went through Walker and
He's like, I like that, and so we developed this
and now we have this family and that kind of situation.
I'm less eager to sell parts of my life that
(27:00):
I hold so dear now and you, you know, do
what you do with GEO. There are a lot of
sacrifices and I'm not complaining. I signed up for this,
Like Jen said earlier, we signed up for this, and
it's amazing and the people I've met and the stories
I've been able to be a part of the relationships
I've been fortunate enough to grow. There are still some
things like, Hey, you can't take your kid to camp.
(27:21):
Hey you can't be there for their birthday. Hey you
can't be there when they're crying. It Like, there are
just some sacrifices that I need to measure, like what's
what's worth it?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, I get that you kind of want to do
it on your own terms. And yeah, and Jen, do
you feel the itch to get more into the acting
world again or you're loving the direction that your life
is taking.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I love acting, I really do. In storytelling. I love
the whole process of it and creating a character. And
you know, I feel like you learned or I learned
so much about myself in the same way that you
read a book, like whether you relate to it or not,
you find something that resonates with it you and that
discovery and learning about people and cultures and all of it.
(28:05):
I really enjoy that, and how they interact with other
people and things and problems, and I really enjoy that
that part a lot. We're in the process now of
sort of forging a path of creating some projects that
we can.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Own.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, so I'm really excited about that adventure. And I
don't know if it's a control thing, but more of
like being able to tell these stories and in a
collaborative process and be more m Yeah, I suppose in control,
you know, not just being told go here here, stand here,
(28:43):
do this, and you'll go here, you know, but being
more of like, hey, I want to be part of
the community and help figure out who's in that community.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
We're having a vote instead of an opinion.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, I'm sure you're both at a point where you
want more ownership, right.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yes, and not for the sake of being called a
co owner. It's more like Hey, I love this story.
I'd love to help tell it. If it changes too much,
then that's not really the story I want to tell. Like,
let's tell this story, and let's do it in the
best possible way where it's all, you know, good faith,
(29:18):
we're all going to work together, we all realize we
still have lives off set, and so the ownership is
a funny word, and that's probably the best placeholder. But
it's it's not exactly ownership. It's it's having the vote
over having an opinion, you know, not like hey, Tommy,
what do you think. I think it's a bad idea. Well, cool,
(29:38):
good for you. We're doing it anyways, but like, no,
my vote is I'm one of two votes and my
vote is no, you know, like having that to go
like I didn't. You know, we've both we've talked about
it between each other. We've both been in situations on
sets where something happens and you're like, I don't feel
like this is not what I expected and I don't
feel comfortable with this, but they're like, hey, they're ready
(30:00):
on set and you got to go do it. It's like, well,
the script that I signed up for this was the
scene and now I have these new pages, but don't
I don't like this. I don't feel comfortable here. It's like, well,
too bad, they're waiting, you know. And so that situation
is not my favorite if it serves the story. Because
also it happens when it's like, hey, where should change
(30:20):
the scene? Because and the lasting the episode, this is
a better tease for it. You're like, oh, bad ass,
Like cool, let's do it. Then sometimes you're like this
is superfluous, you know, like this is not necessary for
the story that I care about. And so trying to
avoid those situations, I think is something that we're both
interested in.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
All right, So here's the million dollar question, and it
involves both of you because as a family, you make
these decisions, right, Yeah, obviously everyone and their mother asks you,
Jared about a Supernatural reboot, and I believe you've said,
if and when the time is right, you might entertain it.
So would that be something you really would think about doing,
(31:02):
even if that means it would take on the next
five years of your life assuming it's a success, because
everyone who watched the original would be tuning into this.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Is that something as.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
A family you both would be ready for and wanting
to make happen.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I will say to this, I don't want to do
another fifteen years of Supernatural. I don't want to do
another five years of Supernatural. I am dying to do
a reboot of Supernatural, akin to like the Gilmore Girls reboot.
You know, it's like, here are four one and a
half hour episodes. We'll shoot it in three months. I
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think Jensen and I both said in twenty twenty, we
love to revisit these characters this world. Give us five years,
which is next year. And I see him often, we
talk often. I think he and I are both really
eager to do it. We love the characters, we grew
up together. I've met my wife on the show. I'm
certain I'll put the flannel on again and place in Winchester.
(32:00):
Not for like a linear television kind of situation that
I'm not interested in, but something that can be strained
and not take nine months out of the year, ten
months out of the year for the next five six
years of my life. Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And you're you're on board?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah I am. I mean I would. That show has
been such a gift for a family. I mean, I
met my husband, we started a family. Uh, you know,
it's such a great story, the writers, the actors, everyone involved,
the crew. You know, it was amazing. So I would
I would definitely be on board. I think again, like
(32:38):
with Jared's saying projection wise, like what does that mean
and what does that entail? But you know, like it
would be so fun and especially the fan base too.
It's given us family that yeah, or the family, So
I would be really excited about it, right.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Good.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I think you made a lot of people happy with
that answer, and that makes sense too. I like, I
like doing something that's a little different it right, not
not necessarily a huge another five years series, because like
you said, there's other hopes and ambitions and goals you have,
but but revisiting that is super fun. And we live
in the day and age of nostalgia, right and even
though it hasn't been that long, people love when things
come back.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So that's that's really cool. All right.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I am going to ask you guys a few rapid
fire couples questions.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
All right, what is.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
The one item that your partner would take on a
deserted island, not kids, not people, not each other?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
What is one item?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I know this one?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I think Jen would take something to read. Let's say
a book.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
You took the high Row one. I thought you were
going to say Bravo.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Oh yeah, the streaming Bravo device.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
But book is a book.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
She spends more time with books than anything else.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
What you would bring. He's got a treble fan.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's right, best present of a time.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I need more information.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
He used to go get it, all right.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I'll get it.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
It's a travel fan that we got him for Yeah,
Father's Day last year. He needs one white noise when
he sleeps like it doesn't matter where we are. He
never asked permission. He just turns it on, so we've
all gotten used to it. So he he needs the
white noise. But he also runs really hot. So in
(34:25):
our house we did a remodel and I never put
any fans in and he was very bummed out. So
I ended up getting him a travel fan that he
can use.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
While we're by the way. We have no association. I
don't even know what the company is. Venti Venti. This is.
I literally have not gone to bed without this in
years since you got it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I sweat in the snow. I'm just a sweater, and
so they have like a little.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Text text me your address, I will send you one.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It is us, Like, you don't understand. So we we
run hot. You should see in our bedroom. It's like there,
it's sixty.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Five air is the air.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
We have a sound machine, a white noise machine. We
have a fan running. We used to have a second
sound machine. And then I'm like, okay, if like our
fire alarm goes off, we're dead because you can't hear
anything outside of our apartment. So now we're like one
sound machine.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
What's your uh, what's your White Noise app? So I
have the White Noise.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
No, no, no, it's not an app. It's a machine from Amazon.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
No way.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Oh yeah, so no, this is hardcore. I don't do
an app.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh no way. Well what if you forget it? What
if you're traveling?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh, I have a travel version.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Okay, send me info and I'll send you infoo on
the app I use because I have a little portable
charger with my phone, and I use the White Noise app,
but I use Brown Noise. They're like a hundred different.
Some are like construction, like who the fuck wants this? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right right right? No, it's amazing. My god, we're like
spirit animals.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I love that for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
For sure, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
All right, next question, I felt this was a fun
one who takes the longest to get ready me hands
down you it's trying to get chairs out.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, I mean, but in fairness, she does not take
a long time get ready. But I like, I haven't
showered today, I have a beanie on and time out.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So I'm usually getting myself ready and plus three best
so I take the lion's share of that, and then
like I'm worry, I'm warning, and I'm like I'm putting
shoes on children.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I have to say, dang shirts and pants and socks.
So I am not an exciting fashionista by any means.
She does not take a long time at all. But
I'm just sort of like, where are we going to
a gala? All right? Let me grab my waterproof boots.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
But also I'm like, laid out his outfit ahead of
time for him, So I mean, yeah, but yes, I
mean I take longer, but I would say, in the
grand scheme of things, and I probably take I could
take anywhere from ten minutes to thirty.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, that's nothing, that's nothing.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I don't know a FEELI it. Oh my god, you
don't protest too much.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh I stirred up a little something. That's for after
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I'm gonna be outside thanks.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
To You can hassle that out on your own time.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
All right, one more, let's go with Okay, if your
partner would perform one song live at Madison Square Garden,
what song would they choose?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Oh? God, she would do Baby Got Back.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
That's because our daughter started singing her basically and Terre
It almost died. He's like, what I've only I have.
I will dance all day long. I have not a
lot of rhythm. But I did want to dance recital
in seventh grade and it was a Baby Got Back?
And like, thankfully my mom did not record it. I
don't even know if my mom went, but I'm gonna
(37:44):
find it. She said she didn't go. I just when
she came last time, She's like, you know I didn't go.
Did that because I was like, why would you let
me wear this outfit? And what song would you sing?
Probably something my Pearl jam or just Breathe or that
John primesng you that you love so much.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Clay Pigeons.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I don't know if you'd seen it, though, I think
you would probably sing.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Actually, yeah, there's a song called Clay Pigeons by John
Prime that I love.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh, I'll look it up.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, it's like a huge like.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
No, he's not. He's not known for being Adele esque
vocalister because Stapleton style by any means he's just real
and raw and you can hear the pain the life lessons. Yeah,
Clay Pigeons by John Prime. I want to turn back?
What would you do?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
What do you mean? What would I do? What song?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
What would you do? Msg?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Oh? Bon Jovi Dead are alive?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Jersey boy, Jersey boy.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I had to stay drunk nights with that song growing up,
where perhaps my shirt ripped off.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
So yes, amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, I like, Oh my god, I wish that happens.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
That would be at John. I have not met John.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
No, he's one of the few people I've never met,
but I would love to meet him.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I did a movie with him twenty one years ago.
No way, Yeah, he's the.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Nicest guy I hear. He's the best, I mean, the
best of the best. He's I mean all his music.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
He wasn't bon job You wouldn't know he's bon Jovi.
It's just like, yeah, he did something. We were shooting
movie in Richmond, Virginia at the time. It was pretty
dangerous and it was a low budget film and they
got him like the nicest room at whatever hotel was there.
I don't think it was some massive place, but it
was like a very nice room. And he talked to
(39:28):
the producer after we checked in. He was like, Hey,
I don't need that big room, Like it's just me,
my kids, my family's not here, Like, can I get
a smaller room? And our producer was like are you sure.
He's like, yeah, man, I'm not low maintenance. I'm no maintenance.
Like just give me a normal room. You don't pay
for this, because he knew we were a small budget film.
Like that was the way it started. He's just the
(39:49):
nicest guy.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
See Jersey in the house.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I love that representing.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
We have come to that point of the show where
I ask every single guest who comes on, what is
one thing that you have never said before? So whatever
you're comfortable with sharing. I know you guys over the
years have done so many interviews and have talked about
so many things, so it might be challenging, but can
you think of anything that you have never said.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Before, never said before. I've been proudly open about my
own relationship with mental health, and that Always Keep Funding
campaign has been a great help for me, and I
think for many others that have expressed that it's helped them.
So I'll say this. It was twenty fifteen, at a
really low moment. I was open about going back and
(40:46):
going to therapy and going to a clinic, but I
was letting my thoughts kind of take over and go
into a place of like dramatic suicidal ideation, and called
my wife and she said get home, And so at home,
went to a clinic for a couple of weeks and
looked into it and haven't been suicidal since, not not
for a moment that hadn't been said. There are still
(41:09):
highs and lows that we talked about earlier, like you're
not you're a human, I'm a human, She's a human.
Everybody who's listening to this presumably as a human going
to be a human. So there are highs and lows,
and I don't know about what I have never said,
but I will say this for now, as I said
here today, today's a low just and I'm fine, nothing
(41:32):
to worry about, but there's a lot of I have
a lot of sadness about Walker the family, and again
my tears aren't for myself. But I know I'll be
fine because I'm talking to you about it. I talked
to Jen about it, I talked to my friends about it.
And so just to please please be open, please share,
Please find somebody, whether it's a friend or professional, and
(41:54):
speak and speak your truth. And just because you're low now,
you know, meet with triumph and disaster and with those
two imposters just the same, I know the other shoe
will drop. And I have friends I love, a new
friend I love, and family I love. So just excited
to be up there, be open, and something you said
earlier or Jen said earlier, will see just those two
(42:16):
words or one contraction and one word, but we'll see,
you know, something seems great, might not be. We'll see
something seems terrible. We'll see. Like keeping an open mind
and looking to tomorrow, looking to next week, next month,
next year has helped a lot. So just that, just
thinking about like, hey, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Thank you for opening up about that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, and Jim, before we get to you, Jared, I
think that it's so impoor and more and more people
talk about that. And you brought up something specifically that
I do want to touch on a little further because
I don't think a lot of people would feel safe
or often enough to reveal that. And you mentioned a clinic,
and I presume that's a place you actually went for
(42:56):
a period of time to get some help. And I
don't know, I don't know if you if you've talked
about that before or not, but I thank you for
that because I don't think people there's such a stigma
surrounding that. Still, there's a huge stigma around mental health still.
I mean, I've lost a friend to her mental health struggle,
which was a horrifying time in my life, and I
don't think people talk about that enough, but people certainly
(43:17):
don't talk enough about going to a place to actually
get the help. So thank you for sharing that and
for people listening who might feel like that's something they
could never bring themselves to do, even though they might
need to do that.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
What would you.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Say, Well, first, I don't think everybody needs it. I
got to a place where I needed it. I needed
a full reset. I had spent you know, fifteen years
in this industry where I was. You know, when you
go to an audition or a red carpet, they don't
want like, Jared, how are you doing today? Oh? Man,
today was rough and like I didn't sleep. They want like, oh,
(43:51):
it's great, like excited to be here, excited to be
you know. So I had done that for so long,
trying to focus, Like we talked earlier about like what's
best for the person who's talking to me as opposed
to like just being honest. And there's a time of place.
I don't wear it as a scarlet letter, Like it's
not like I'm shameful, Like, hey, I see a therapist.
I've been to a clinic. I like wear proudly, like
(44:13):
I put it on my face and like tell everybody
like yeah, dude, if you're not in the situation where
you need that degree of help, then don't seek it.
But I needed a surgeon, not literally, but you know
what I mean, Like, yeah, I needed it, and here
I am, and I've never been, Like I said, today's
a hard day. It's been a hard month since we
found out, But I'm in a great place with my wife,
(44:35):
our children, my friends, my family, and so I'm certain
without Jen and without my time spent really going like Okay,
these feelings and thoughts are real feelings and thoughts, but
they're not reality, Like how do I put those over there?
And like, Okay, I'm feeling really excited, that's going to change.
I'm feeling really down, that's gonna change. I'm feeling really anxious.
(44:58):
That's going to change. So just to look seek help,
open up, even if you don't think you need it,
Like even if you're doing it, like, hey, you're fit,
you're healthy, why not talk to a nutritionist? Why not
get a personal trainer to show you how to properly
do the squads? Like why not, like we spend all
this time, you know, we have financial planners. If you're
(45:19):
fortunate not to have a job, you have prospit trainers
or Orange theory or whatever showing you how to properly
do a row, Like why not look at your brain?
Like you live in your brain? You know, we don't
have a brain. We are a brain and our body
just follows, So why not, Like it seems so silly
to not want to look into it, but not silly.
(45:39):
I don't want to want to make it sound flippant,
but if you have the opportunity, there are a lot
of resources out there, so please, please please please look
into it. And it's great, it feels great, that's a
great work.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Again, I'm so happy you're putting that out there. That's
something very important and a message that we never should
get tired of hearing.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
So thank you for that. And Jen, what about you?
Speaker 4 (46:03):
I'm not going to mention where what city hotel is
a more fun one. We went to bed and did
what married couples do or couples do, and in this
particular hotel room was not a configuration that I was
quite used to. And I wake up.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
And I realized that the door is closing on me.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
And I'm in the hallway of the hotel and I'm
butt naked. No, I'm asleep, he's he's sleep.
Speaker 7 (46:32):
I don't know where I am, but I just know
that the door just clicked and it kind of hit
me in the butt, and I'm like, where am I?
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Where am I? Why am I?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Where?
Speaker 4 (46:42):
What is happening right now? So I'm like I'm sweating
thing about I'm sweating everywhere I'm like, I'm sweating it. Well,
I'm sweat dripped out my body. I'm a butt naked
in the hotel. In the hallway. I'm going to go
to the elevator section. There's usually a phone there. Like
in my mind, I'm gonna dig myself out of this.
(47:04):
I'm gonna figure this out. I'm gonna bang on the door.
Jared's gonna come out. It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Like it's like two am. I'm the sixth floor hotel.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Don't even say don't think I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
You're like, I don't want video footage to be pulled up.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
I do want video to God, I don't even want
to know what happened. I don't want to see this.
Speaker 7 (47:21):
So I have the bag out of the door and
I'm like quietly baking me have the door said, I
want to wake anyone or someone looking through their people
like my naked ass.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
So I'm like bay out.
Speaker 8 (47:30):
The door, like please please answer the door, ring the bell, nothing,
and there was like a little living area, so I figured, well,
he probably can't hear it.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
So I start kind of walking my way down the
hallway and I go through a door not even thinking
about it, but our bedroom was attached to where this
through the door. So I go through the door but
realize it's cinder.
Speaker 7 (47:49):
Block, and I'm in the stairwell and I've locked myself
in the stairwell and I'm butt naked.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
There is like nothing.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
Around me except a cinder block, a door that's closed
in a stairwell, and some insulation on the ground that
I decided to.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Pick up and cover half my body with.
Speaker 8 (48:08):
So I fiberglass and asbestos off my butt and this
is so this is like a funny question, Like I
had to like kind of cover my body and like
cover half of it.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
And I've had friends comment like, well, why would you
cover like one boob and one butt? Shet like how
did you know?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
What?
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Up? I have comments on my choices of what I'm coming,
but I was, like I felt I was just doing
my best.
Speaker 8 (48:37):
So I'm like tiptoeing my way down theirs like six, six, seven,
eight nine, Who knows.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
How many don'ts me out to the backyard of the
hotel where the pool is buck my life. So I
go in and the only way in is through the.
Speaker 9 (48:56):
Bar, which is very It's closed, but there's a whole
cleaning crew, and it's very well lit and it's horribly lit,
in fact, so much so that you can see everything.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
And so I'm like, hey, anyone know where the lobby is?
It just like it was like, and everything goes quiet
and they're like looking at me and just like point.
Speaker 7 (49:18):
Oh imagine, I've never said this before.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
So I walked through the lobby. It's a lady there.
She's like, can I help you? I was like, yes,
can I have a rub leady as so politely like
some idiot, and she's like, okay, what's She goes and
(49:43):
I said, I left myself out of my room? Can
you please a new back? And yeah, Basically she's like,
what's your name? I was like Jennevie Padalaki. She's like okay,
so I obviously don't like have any idea on me,
and so he has to want me into the elevator.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
No elevator, oh god, Like.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
She like lets me into the room. I was like, no,
see this is my room.
Speaker 9 (50:14):
My husband's asleep over there, like and like you know,
she got proof of this is my room.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
I'm not some weirdo, like I swear like I know him.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
I promise she woke me up. I woke up out
of swords and I was also like looved. She's like
I was naked outside with as bestos, but I was
all over my butt. I was like, what are you
like you have like a nightmare? Like she don't have
night terrors. It's like what's going on on a wake
up walk? Sleepwalk?
Speaker 4 (50:41):
I cannot even.
Speaker 7 (50:42):
Tell you the story, but I'm telling the story because mortifying,
Like it's one of those moments where.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
I was like, it's like when you're naked on like
you dream about these moments of like being in class,
like butt naked, and you know, you think of four stories,
and like it fucking literally happened to me. And I'm like, okay,
just go to sleep. Like it's like count to ten.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
What can I do?
Speaker 4 (51:00):
I have to go to say, Okay, I have to sleep.
I sleep sleep. Then the next morning we have like
I will say, when we checked into the hotel, there
was maybe one or two people we called down for
the car, and I shit, you not. I think every
single person who worked for this hotel chain was all
lined up just waiting for me, like it was the
walk of shame, and so I just what some less
(51:21):
is on?
Speaker 8 (51:22):
And I walked my little strutted right out there with
like mustard any confidence I could find.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Gone to the car and I was like, drive, we
gotta go, we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Now get.
Speaker 7 (51:38):
It was just like just so wild that you have
to like laugh at the at the experience of the
absurdity of being in this moment.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
And then what was really funny is we had a
dinner with some friends and I was like, oh, my god,
just just happened. And then they were all, yeah, that
happened to me. I was in the elevator too, and
I was like, oh.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
My god, Okay, I'm got It's so funny you told
the story. I was sworn to secrecy. I think I
told my brother and then she found out I told
him and she was like ever. I was like, okay,
well that's fine. So I can't believe she just shared
that with people.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Well that's a That's probably one of the best stories
I've ever heard of my entire life. I think the
headline that y'all are skipping over is something happened in
that bedroom that put you both into trance.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
So there you go, two of you that all right,
it's better, Yeah, take two will be better. Well to the.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Two of you.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
There's some magical shit happening over in that bed. So
I see how, I see how you guys are all
you guys, this, this conversation has been so much fun today.
I love that we talked about, you know, the projects
that people love, but really got to open up in
in deep and meaningful ways. And I mean I just
looked at the time and I'm so sorry I've kept
you for so long, but I feel like talking to
(52:54):
you guys could last for eight hours. So I really
appreciate you coming on the show. I hope you guys
wtuate it as much as I as I have.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Well huge fans of your Yeah, we just you know,
we're so grateful to We feel like the ship being like, wow,
Tommy has is to be on the show. We're so
excited and we've been wanting to be on your show
for a long time. So we feel really honored and lucky.
And you just feel like an old friend and so
I'm excited to hang out more.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
And there are are amazing, beautiful mutual friend. Katini tomorrow
spoke super highly of you, and I was like, you
can't live up to that, but you surpassed. Yeah, you're
a great soul. Thank you so much for being here
and thanks for being a love.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Oh thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I appreciate that you have a friend and forever fan
of me now and I look forward to making some
memories in the future.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
Can't wait, hopefully not running naked through a hotel.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Never say never. I am from Journey and we're a
little crazy, So yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
We'll see you.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Never know, you never know, all right, I see you
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I'm Tommy Diderio.
Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,
Tommy di Dario. Today is a very special episode because
I have two wonderful actors on my show who also
happened to be in a marriage that makes the entire
world say well hashtag couple goals. The talented Jared and
Jen Padlechi are here today, and man, we had so
(00:24):
much fun chatting. I could have kept them for eight
hours because the conversation just kept flowing. They are such
good human beings and I loved this chat. Jared is
of course best known for his iconic role as Sam
Winchester on the CW series Supernatural, which ran for an
incredible fifteen seasons, but he first gained national attention on
Gilmour Girls, playing Rory's charming and loyal boyfriend Dean, another
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fan favorite character, and fast forward to today, he developed
and stars in Walker on the CW, which is airing
its series finale on June twenty sixth. Now, his beautiful wife,
Jen is best known for her starring roles on the
ABC Family series Wildfire and of course, the legendary series Supernatural.
She also just finished playing Emily Walker on the hit
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series Walker alongside her husband, of course, and aside from
gracing us with their talents on screen together, Jared and
Jen are passionate about the planet and they promote a
more sustainable way of living, and they really encourage us
to get out in nature.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Doesn't that sound amazing?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, I'm all about peace, putting my device down, getting
in nature. Sign me up today. We chat all about
their fan favorite projects. We get a deeper glimpse into
a relationship that so many people look up to, and
we connect on some really personal levels.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We go deep. So let's see if.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We can get Jared and Jen to say something that
they have never said before.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Jared and Jen, it is so good to see you guys.
How you feeling today?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Feeling good? Yeah, feeling good. We were in Europe for
a few weeks with kids how to Blast, so there's
a bit of jet lag still so little like, where
are we okay? Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah? A little discombobulated, I think right now.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Jet leg is real.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I go to Europe probably once a year, and I
always feel like it takes me a couple of days
to recover. So I appreciate you being here and showing
up and happy belated Father's Day. Very happy related. Thank you,
very very nice. I'm happy you guys are here, so
thank you again. We have so much to get to God,
we don't want to begin. I guess let's begin with
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the fan favorite show that is sadly coming to an end,
which is Walker, and the big series finale is airing
on June twenty sixth, and man, people are people are
not ready for it. They're not ready for it. So Jared,
we'll start with you. You know, how are you processing something
like this coming to an end, something that means so
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much to so many people, including yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I'm sure, yeah, no, thanks, thank you for the question.
Funny enough, this is the first time I've really spoken
about it, because I found out on a Tuesday and
was asked if I would be willing to share the
information with our Walker family and our extended kind of
supernatural family come a girls family, this and that people
who are tuned into the show. I haven't really had
(03:19):
time to really digest it just yet, because two days
later I went to Europe and got back four weeks later, essentially,
so I haven't really digested it yet. It's heartbreaking. Man.
I'm erect. You know, had our final mix and that
was a pretty intense session. A lot of tears in
the last four weeks, but I think this is important.
(03:41):
They weren't for me, you know. They were tears for
the amazing cast and crew and their families. And we
just had a blast, and we went through pandemic and
we went through the strikes and an incredible family not
only on screen and behind screen, but the people who
view and watch and have talked with the show and
asked quiet and express their excitement with it. So I'll
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get back to you on that next time. But I
haven't really had the time yet to sit and digest it.
I'm kind of sometimes quick to have perception but slow
to have perspective, Like I have to sleep on something,
and I'll have to sleep on this a lot. But
I'm so proud of the family and the friends that
we got to meet and work with, and that'll be everlasting.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And Jen, I know for you, you put on Instagram
that this was a dream project for you to be
a part of.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Why so I.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Think, to sort of echo what Dared's saying, it really
has become a family of sorts and for us to
work from home, you know, to be able to take
the kids to school and then either visit Jared while
he's working, show our kids how our lives behave you know,
when we're not at a hope to see us. You know,
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when we're not at home. It's not normal for them
to be able to experience that. You know, when Jared
was on Supernatural is when the kids we had our children,
and then we moved to Austin and Jared would commute
once they started school, and so they never really got
to experience the day to day. And so it's been
a dream because I felt like we didn't sacrifice.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
A whole lot, which is a I mean, I love
the sacrifice in a project, and I love we talk
about sacrifice often with our kids, about you know, the
sacrifices that we both make in traveling and.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Working for our family. This one was just the ultimate
dream because to play a role alongside my husband and
my partner and so many different levels and have so
much fun with that, but also have truly the dreamiest
cast and crew. I mean every cast we worked with,
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every crew we've worked with, is exceptional. We feel incredibly
lucky and blessed to be able to really say that
every you know group, it has been incredible but this
one in particular for us, just because it was in
our backyard and it was a collective that. I mean,
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they will be family for the rest of our lives,
you know, like they have just left an induble mark
on all of us and our kids and our family,
and it's just it's been dreaming on so many different levels.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So for the finale, are you both satisfied with how
it wraps up? And now you can't share too much,
but are you happy with how it ends?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's a great question. Yes. So we knew while filming
the finale that it might be the series finale, and
we took that into account. There are many meetings behind
the scenes about like what should we do with these characters?
Those characters. I feel like every character has a proper
final moment, so to speak. So I am happy with
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the finale. I'm not happy that it's the finale, but
I am happy the characters all get a proper send off,
which we were prepared for. We weren't expecting it, but
we weren't. We knew it was a possibility. You know,
we remained the most watch show on the network, and
we came in under budget, and we weren't their most expensive.
So we were like, okay, cool, like we can come
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back and play again in the sandbox. That didn't happen
is what it is. But yes, yeah, I love the melopy.
I watched it last night as a matter of factor,
and lots of tears, all tears. I watched most of it.
It was blurry at times because I was trying to
wipe tears away. But yeah, it's very horribleming.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know, with every new project, with everything that we
take on, it's like a new chapter of our lives,
right and the Walker chapter for you both, I'm sure
you grew a lot, you learned a lot, you discovered
a lot. So is there something that you can both
think of that you feel like you learned about yourself
through doing this series or through being a part of
it for you know, the last few years.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, God, great question. So Walker was hatched in twenty
nineteen and my trailer season fourteen of Supernatural because we
Jenson and I had talked about season fifteen the next
year being the last season of Supernatural, and I was
sort of like, well, maybe I retire, like I've been
doing TV like Gilmore Girls. It was gonna be a
(08:16):
twenty year career. I was like, cool, I missed my family.
I'd like to get to know them. Then COVID happened
in twenty twenty, and so I was down here with
Jen and our kids. We still had about two or
three weeks to shoot Supernatural to wrap it up, but
we knew Walker was coming next. I'm coming in Austin,
and so I had a lot of time to think
and spend time with the family, and a lot happened.
(08:39):
And I hate talk about myself, but this is a
funny situation because like Kilmore Girls for five years, I
left to do Supernatural, and then Supernatural we knew it
was ending season fifteen. We announced it, Hey, this could
be the final season. But Walker was kind of like
the rug got pulled out. So I always had a
job coming up, something to work for, and so I
(09:01):
think one of the things that I'm realizing and I'm
still kind of fresh into it because it's been less
than a month since finding out we're not come. It's
weird because this time, you know, mid June, I'm always
not working. That's a strange way to say it, but
it's usually like, oh, we're prepping for the next season.
So yeah, it's time off. Kids are in summer, I'm home,
(09:22):
we're traveling here maybe hopefully. So it hasn't really hit yet.
I think once like August, September, October come around and
I'm like, why am I not like memorizing lines to
go to work. Then it'll probably hit again, you know.
But it hasn't really hit. But I feel life goes
on and it's not always how you expect. And so,
(09:44):
kind of to your prior question about our thoughts on
the finale, it occurred to me that if Walker ended
after any episode in the four seasons, I'd be satisfied,
you know, because the riders, the brilliant riders behind the
scenes every episode wonderfully, Like we weren't writing to have
some big, oh my gosh, like what's happening next, Like
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it's what's right for the characters. So it just felt
like this is life, and we're going to go through life,
and this is this episode, this is the next But
it wasn't like we were trying to trick people into
got to tune in next week, got to tune in
the following week. It was sort of like, hey, here's
here's a week in the life of the Walker family.
Their friends, their colleagues, et cetera. And so to some extent,
I'm kind of right now thinking about life in general,
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and sometimes, you know, it goes longer than you'd expect.
Sometimes it doesn't go as long as you'd hope, and
just kind of do your best along the way because
you never know. And I think we all did our best.
So I'm trying to hang my hat on that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I love that. And what about you, Jen Gosh, I.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Learned I mean on every job. I think, at every
adventure in life, you know, or every fork in the
road or project. I think, no matter what, I hopefully
you continue to learn from it. And I think particularly
with this one. You know, we met on Supernatural, which
filmed in Vancouver, got married, started a family. My career
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took a back seat while we had kids, and you know,
Jared was working, and then when our kids started school,
I was really full time in Austin and he would
commute from Vancouver to Austin. And I had a set
way of life and a certain structure to things and
the way that the kids were being raised, and you know.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
That particular flow and for me, Walker was sort of
all encompassing because it really incorporated our family life into
our work life, and then on top of that, as
our kids have grown up a bit more, it's also
given me more space to find more creative pursuits as well.
So I think within that Walker space, I've been able
(11:48):
to play again as far as my acting is concerned,
have a voice. We co produce, although that's really your
line and share with Walker, but yeah, I mean, he's
so generous with saying that he's the lines there of
producing Walker. But yes, it's been I've sat and been
(12:08):
part of those meetings and privy to those meetings, and
sort of to preface that, I'm kind of one of
those people that feels like they have to go to
college to like have some sort of voice in a
situation like I have to go to college. I have
to get my masters to be able to be a producer,
you know, even though I've also been in this industry
for I guess twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Years, I guess. But I think what this has done
has been like a really gentle introduction for me into
the other side of things and the inner workings of
production and what goes into it and also you know,
which has been really nice and that I say it
it's gentle because I've been able to watch and be
(12:51):
a part of these meetings and now you know, we're
also in the process of producing projects together that we're
sort of bringing to life, the seed to the next chapter,
next chapter, but also to be able to wear the
hat of a mother and producer and heart and so
(13:11):
as you. But it's just I didn't I wasn't in
that place before. I believe, you know, I would jump
into supernatural here and there, but I didn't really do
anything other than that. I just didn't have the space
and we just didn't have you know, our marriage and
our family really comes first, so we had to make
sure that that was intact and really strong in that,
(13:33):
you know, in order for that, you know, for me
to be able to do other things or you know,
find projects or wherever. We had to really make that
was really solid and our kids were really solid. So
for Walker, it just developmentally for me, was just a
way for me to feel confident in really expanding my wings,
so to speak.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, that is so fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I love when I hear things like that, because you know,
a lot of people feel that way.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A lot of people feel.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Like, oh, I didn't necessarily study something so I can't
possibly pursue it or I'm not going to be taken seriously.
But it's it's not about that, and so many of
us feel that way. In fact, my husband is an
anchor on Good Morning America. It's like he reached his
highest dream ever and he still says, oh, I always
wish I went to a better university, And it's like, well, why,
(14:21):
like why, what does that have to do with anything?
Look at what you're doing, you know. So I feel
you Gen on that. I think a lot of people
feel you on that. But it's so cool that both
of you have created this life together where you are
able to do the work you love and you are
able to put yourselves as a couple and as a
family first and seemingly you know, manage it the best
that you can. And we're going to get into that
(14:41):
in a BIX. I'm so interested in the dynamics of
all of that with any relationship. But something that came
to mind when you both were talking is that you've
both been in this industry for most of your lives.
You've grown up in front of people essentially right, You've
been working, working, working, and even gen even though you've
taken breaks to you know, raise your family. You've been
doing it like you've been doing it from an early
(15:03):
age too, So how the hell did the two of
you grow up on TV and in the spotlight? Because
I would be a hot mess.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well we are hot messes, or at least we're messes.
You're hot, we're messages. A fair question. I think what's
funny is that these days, and with our kids, we
have a twelve year old boy, a ten year old boy,
seen year old girl, we're seeing how rapid things are
happening with like social media and everybody has a device
(15:33):
and people are growing so rapidly. I think for Gen
and me both, it was kind of like I joke
that I'm like that twenty four year overnight success. Like
it was slow, like when Gilmore Girls, I was seventeen
years old in two thousand, left college to do four
episodes of a show, and I'm doing eighty or something,
but there was no Netflix, there was no streaming app
(15:55):
there was no DVR yet, Like we were recording it
on vhs, like on a v to go back and
try and watch. So it was very slow, Like I
didn't get recognized until probably season two or three of
Gilmore Girls, so I was like able to pay my bills.
I wasn't driving fancy cars. I'm not driving in fans
cars now. But I'm saying like I was a working
(16:15):
actor at the time. But by no means was it like, Okay,
this is going to be a viable job for me
to do. Like we'll see, and we'll see. I'll get
back to because something she said and we've talked about
just today makes me think of that. But it happened
really slowly. And then I think because of the shows
we've done, the movies we've worked on, it's not like
(16:37):
somebody in the street sees us and goes like, oh,
you were part of that scandal blah blah blah blah,
take a picture. Like people either don't know who the
hell we are and don't give a shit and we're
human beings, or they're like, hey, I love that show
you did. Hey, my daughter and I watched Gilmore Girls
and we bonded. Hey, my brother and I watched Supernatural
and we bonded. Hey, my family watches or wildfire Walker
(16:58):
or whatever. So it's not like when someone comes up
to take a picture or say hi, it's not like, hey,
someone said you're famous. Let's do a picture so I
can get some likes on social media. It's like, hey,
that scene where you talk to your brother or father
or son or friend or whatever, like it meant a
lot to me, and I thought about it and that
it meant something, and so I feel like our level
of fame or a celebrity, however you would try and
(17:21):
quantify or measure that has been commensurate with the work
we've put into it. So people don't come up to
us and say like, hey, I here a you're famous.
They come up and say like, hey, I love that
show you did, Like I bonded with some other human
being over some project you did. And that makes me
think about like bands I loved growing up, or sports
teams or TV shows or movies, and it's like, oh,
(17:42):
you look that too, like let's talk and you get
to meet somebody. And so it wasn't like we, you know,
blasted into infamy like some kids these days that I
feel for the teenagers and twenty some things that all
of a sudden are enormously famous and their life changes
and they haven't been to really gradually deal with it,
(18:02):
you know. The progression of it. The in Criminal Progression, I.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Will say, I literally came out of college and got
a lead of a TV show and I had never
been on.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
TV, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It's so crazy, and I'm so that really was for me.
I'm so grateful to Lloyd Segen and Sean and Michael
Piller who believed in me, because I don't know who
else would hire some person who's never been on TV before.
But I'm so grateful because I was so I was
so lucky, but I was so green. And I also
at the time thought I've made it, like, you know,
(18:36):
I'm number one on a call sheet, and then I
ate some humble pie because I got right off of Wildfire,
and then I was back to auditioning again, you know.
So I'm really grateful for those experiences because that, you know,
this industry is full of humble pie. And I think
it's a lesson that we teach our kids often or
echo it and repeat it often, which is kindness is free.
(18:58):
So you know, on Wildfire, you know, I'm still I'm
grateful that I wasn't a little shit, but I definitely,
you know what, I thought, I was pretty cool being
number one, and I'm grateful for the relationships that I have.
I just feel like it's allowed me to be open
because every experience, in every situation is so different, and
(19:23):
you know, to if we're a bunch of carnies and
just to be a part of that circus together and
you know those orbits, and it's just it's really it's
really special.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, one thing that definitely strikes me is the two
of you are both you lead your lives with gratitude
and you're humble and you appreciate all the opportunities that
have come your ways. And that's very cute and saying that.
You know, you have a lower profile than you actually do.
But when I announced you guys as my guest, the
questions flooded in and people were so excited and they
(20:01):
were like, oh my god, we've been waiting for this forever.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So it's very cute.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
But I'm here to say, you guys are the shit,
So settle down with that and let's feel here for
a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But you know what's.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So cool about the two of you two is you
you have developed these amazing careers and lives and personal
and professional lives. I want to say, because it's not
just about the work, it's about having that personal life
that is fulfilling as well.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But it's so.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Challenging in any career when you have two busy people
and you're trying to balance it all, right, So how
do you keep that commitment so strong without burning out
or without letting it fall to the back burner, because
that is something that you know a lot of people struggle.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
With out there.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
There are I mean, there's several things that we do
and I will say it's it's seasonal too. It's not
that this is what we do every Monday. It's sort
of seasonally where are we in our own individual headspace
and then where are we together and where the kids
and you know, so there's a lot that goes into that.
I will say a big part of that is therapy.
(21:04):
We're very open about being in therapy. Our kids are
in therapy. It's important for us to have that outlet
to check in and be honest and work on things
in our relationship, having conversations with each other and being
open and honest. And I think for me, what I
had to do was give up feeling like this is
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how a nuclear family lives, and I need to live
like a nuclear family and I'm going to raise my
kids this way. And we show up every night for
dinner together, and I make dinner and he sits down
and we all talk about this and he alps with
the mathwork. We don't have that kind of life, you know,
or even parenting styles. We have very different parenting styles.
And sometimes, you know, in the beginning, sometimes I would
(21:48):
get frustrated because Jared would come in from Vancouver and
he would be the fun dad and I was like, well,
it's bedtime.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Who wants.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
And I think, at least for me, I want to
speak for you. But I had to go, where am I?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What do I love?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
What are the things that I love?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Where?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You know, I love this human so much, he's not
the things that I infrustrated by are the things I
actually love about him? And so you also for me,
you had to say I had to let go of
certain things about the perfection of it all and about
living our lives in a nuclear way, like we just
don't have that lifestyle. We chose this lifestyle. We chose
(22:26):
to get into this acting industry. Granted we didn't.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
I don't think we thought, oh wow, we'll be forty
with three kids and a mortgage, and you know, like
there's some real stuff with life that we.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Have to deal with. But we don't have a traditional
life and that's okay. And so I think for me,
I had to let go of some of that traditional parenting,
traditional marriage and ideals, and not to say that we
don't have you know, we have our contract, we have
our relationship, we have our marriage. You know that that
(22:58):
is at the core and very important to us. But
you know, he can't be it in there every weekend,
even every night with the kids, and so when we
do have that time, it's very important, it's very sacred
to us. But you know, it's challenging because it's not
every Thursday night or something. You know, it's it's evolving
and so sometimes sort of our friends and friend group
(23:21):
that can be challenging because we cannot be consistent all
the time and I've just had to make plans. Yeah,
it's hard.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well, yeah, I think to our point, I think it's
it's interesting. And as you get older and your life
goes here and there, you realize that there are certain
people in your world that they're around when you do
what's best for them, and then there are those in
your world that when you do what's best for you,
they're even more excited and that becomes even better for
them than doing what they think might be best for them.
(23:50):
And however, many aspects, So you're talking about other people,
like other professionals who are going through this, and that
they're in a relationship or they're not, and things seem
high and low. Tattoo it says if it's a poem
by Rudyard Kipling, and there's a great couplet in it
that says, if you can meet with triumph and disaster
and treat those two impostors just the same. And so
I think that's where I kind of try and live,
(24:12):
you know, like right now I'm jobless for the first
time in twenty four years, Like I've always had a
job to look forward to. So seemingly it's a disaster,
right like, oh shit, I don't have any work, Like
I'm not reading through a script, so it's seemingly a disaster.
It'll change, and so there are highs and lows, and
especially in a relationship, she'll have highs and lows because
(24:33):
she's a human being. I'll have highs and lows because
I'm human being. If we seek to communicate with each other,
and there might be times where she's like, hey, maybe
I'm overly doting or something, and she's like, I just
eat some space. It's like, got it, and it's not about me,
it's about her, and vice versa, when she wants to
do this or that, and I'm like, hey, I don't
want to be a Debbie downer. I just need to
(24:53):
stay home, like I'm going to go go for a
walk or listen to album I love or something, and
she gets it. And so that mutual trust of like
growing alongside each other but also realizing you're not growing
at the same speed at the same rate, like sometimes
I'm here, she's there. Sometimes vice versa, and often we're here,
but just listening and communicating, being like, hey, can I
(25:15):
do anything? No, you need you time? Cool, take you time.
I'll hang with kids or whatever. Get out your hair,
and not taking offense by you know, like we're all humans,
like we all we're all gonna have highs and lows. Otherwise,
what's the point of living, right if you're not going
to have your highs and your lows and hopefully find
some balance.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
One hundred percent, I couldn't agree more so this is
something that I was very interested in, you know, as
I was thinking about our conversation today, and I want
your both of your perspective on this. So, for one,
you mentioned thinking about retiring from acting, So is that
something you're still considering or is that kind of on
the back burner or you're you don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm always considering it. There are some stories I really
want to tell, want to help tell. Like I know,
I've even really considered myself an actor. I consider myself
a storyteller and there happened to be a camera pointed
at me or something. So I love the process. I
love developing things. I love reading a book and going,
oh my god, this would be amazing as a TV show,
as a limited series, as a movie. Like, people who
(26:16):
aren't often readers still need to see these tropes, these
archetypes delivered in this way. I'm not retired from acting.
I'm excited about some stuff we have coming up, but
I'm not excited about the industry. I guess so if
it can be done in such a way. There was
another wonderful think about Walker is when Mark Pettwitz was
(26:37):
running CW. He kind of said, like, what kind of
stories would you hope to tell if you could, And
we went through some ideas. I went through Walker and
He's like, I like that, and so we developed this
and now we have this family and that kind of situation.
I'm less eager to sell parts of my life that
(27:00):
I hold so dear now and you, you know, do
what you do with GEO. There are a lot of
sacrifices and I'm not complaining. I signed up for this,
Like Jen said earlier, we signed up for this, and
it's amazing and the people I've met and the stories
I've been able to be a part of the relationships
I've been fortunate enough to grow. There are still some
things like, Hey, you can't take your kid to camp.
(27:21):
Hey you can't be there for their birthday. Hey you
can't be there when they're crying. It Like, there are
just some sacrifices that I need to measure, like what's
what's worth it?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, I get that you kind of want to do
it on your own terms. And yeah, and Jen, do
you feel the itch to get more into the acting
world again or you're loving the direction that your life
is taking.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I love acting, I really do. In storytelling. I love
the whole process of it and creating a character. And
you know, I feel like you learned or I learned
so much about myself in the same way that you
read a book, like whether you relate to it or not,
you find something that resonates with it you and that
discovery and learning about people and cultures and all of it.
(28:05):
I really enjoy that, and how they interact with other
people and things and problems, and I really enjoy that
that part a lot. We're in the process now of
sort of forging a path of creating some projects that
we can.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Own.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, so I'm really excited about that adventure. And I
don't know if it's a control thing, but more of
like being able to tell these stories and in a
collaborative process and be more m Yeah, I suppose in control,
you know, not just being told go here here, stand here,
(28:43):
do this, and you'll go here, you know, but being
more of like, hey, I want to be part of
the community and help figure out who's in that community.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
We're having a vote instead of an opinion.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, I'm sure you're both at a point where you
want more ownership, right.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yes, and not for the sake of being called a
co owner. It's more like Hey, I love this story.
I'd love to help tell it. If it changes too much,
then that's not really the story I want to tell. Like,
let's tell this story, and let's do it in the
best possible way where it's all, you know, good faith,
(29:18):
we're all going to work together, we all realize we
still have lives off set, and so the ownership is
a funny word, and that's probably the best placeholder. But
it's it's not exactly ownership. It's it's having the vote
over having an opinion, you know, not like hey, Tommy,
what do you think. I think it's a bad idea. Well, cool,
(29:38):
good for you. We're doing it anyways, but like, no,
my vote is I'm one of two votes and my
vote is no, you know, like having that to go
like I didn't. You know, we've both we've talked about
it between each other. We've both been in situations on
sets where something happens and you're like, I don't feel
like this is not what I expected and I don't
feel comfortable with this, but they're like, hey, they're ready
(30:00):
on set and you got to go do it. It's like, well,
the script that I signed up for this was the
scene and now I have these new pages, but don't
I don't like this. I don't feel comfortable here. It's like, well,
too bad, they're waiting, you know. And so that situation
is not my favorite if it serves the story. Because
also it happens when it's like, hey, where should change
(30:20):
the scene? Because and the lasting the episode, this is
a better tease for it. You're like, oh, bad ass,
Like cool, let's do it. Then sometimes you're like this
is superfluous, you know, like this is not necessary for
the story that I care about. And so trying to
avoid those situations, I think is something that we're both
interested in.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
All right, So here's the million dollar question, and it
involves both of you because as a family, you make
these decisions, right, Yeah, obviously everyone and their mother asks you,
Jared about a Supernatural reboot, and I believe you've said,
if and when the time is right, you might entertain it.
So would that be something you really would think about doing,
(31:02):
even if that means it would take on the next
five years of your life assuming it's a success, because
everyone who watched the original would be tuning into this.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Is that something as.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
A family you both would be ready for and wanting
to make happen.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
I will say to this, I don't want to do
another fifteen years of Supernatural. I don't want to do
another five years of Supernatural. I am dying to do
a reboot of Supernatural, akin to like the Gilmore Girls reboot.
You know, it's like, here are four one and a
half hour episodes. We'll shoot it in three months. I
(31:37):
think Jensen and I both said in twenty twenty, we
love to revisit these characters this world. Give us five years,
which is next year. And I see him often, we
talk often. I think he and I are both really
eager to do it. We love the characters, we grew
up together. I've met my wife on the show. I'm
certain I'll put the flannel on again and place in Winchester.
(32:00):
Not for like a linear television kind of situation that
I'm not interested in, but something that can be strained
and not take nine months out of the year, ten
months out of the year for the next five six
years of my life. Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And you're you're on board?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah I am. I mean I would. That show has
been such a gift for a family. I mean, I
met my husband, we started a family. Uh, you know,
it's such a great story, the writers, the actors, everyone involved,
the crew. You know, it was amazing. So I would
I would definitely be on board. I think again, like
(32:38):
with Jared's saying projection wise, like what does that mean
and what does that entail? But you know, like it
would be so fun and especially the fan base too.
It's given us family that yeah, or the family, So
I would be really excited about it, right.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Good.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I think you made a lot of people happy with
that answer, and that makes sense too. I like, I
like doing something that's a little different it right, not
not necessarily a huge another five years series, because like
you said, there's other hopes and ambitions and goals you have,
but but revisiting that is super fun. And we live
in the day and age of nostalgia, right and even
though it hasn't been that long, people love when things
come back.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So that's that's really cool. All right.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I am going to ask you guys a few rapid
fire couples questions.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
All right, what is.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
The one item that your partner would take on a
deserted island, not kids, not people, not each other?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
What is one item?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I know this one?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I think Jen would take something to read. Let's say
a book.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
You took the high Row one. I thought you were
going to say Bravo.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Oh yeah, the streaming Bravo device.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
But book is a book.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
She spends more time with books than anything else.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
What you would bring. He's got a treble fan.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's right, best present of a time.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I need more information.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
He used to go get it, all right.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I'll get it.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
It's a travel fan that we got him for Yeah,
Father's Day last year. He needs one white noise when
he sleeps like it doesn't matter where we are. He
never asked permission. He just turns it on, so we've
all gotten used to it. So he he needs the
white noise. But he also runs really hot. So in
(34:25):
our house we did a remodel and I never put
any fans in and he was very bummed out. So
I ended up getting him a travel fan that he
can use.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
While we're by the way. We have no association. I
don't even know what the company is. Venti Venti. This is.
I literally have not gone to bed without this in
years since you got it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I sweat in the snow. I'm just a sweater, and
so they have like a little.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Text text me your address, I will send you one.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It is us, Like, you don't understand. So we we
run hot. You should see in our bedroom. It's like there,
it's sixty.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Five air is the air.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
We have a sound machine, a white noise machine. We
have a fan running. We used to have a second
sound machine. And then I'm like, okay, if like our
fire alarm goes off, we're dead because you can't hear
anything outside of our apartment. So now we're like one
sound machine.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
What's your uh, what's your White Noise app? So I
have the White Noise.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
No, no, no, it's not an app. It's a machine from Amazon.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
No way.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Oh yeah, so no, this is hardcore. I don't do
an app.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh no way. Well what if you forget it? What
if you're traveling?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh, I have a travel version.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Okay, send me info and I'll send you infoo on
the app I use because I have a little portable
charger with my phone, and I use the White Noise app,
but I use Brown Noise. They're like a hundred different.
Some are like construction, like who the fuck wants this? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right right right? No, it's amazing. My god, we're like
spirit animals.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I love that for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
For sure, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
All right, next question, I felt this was a fun
one who takes the longest to get ready me hands
down you it's trying to get chairs out.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, I mean, but in fairness, she does not take
a long time get ready. But I like, I haven't
showered today, I have a beanie on and time out.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So I'm usually getting myself ready and plus three best
so I take the lion's share of that, and then
like I'm worry, I'm warning, and I'm like I'm putting
shoes on children.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I have to say, dang shirts and pants and socks.
So I am not an exciting fashionista by any means.
She does not take a long time at all. But
I'm just sort of like, where are we going to
a gala? All right? Let me grab my waterproof boots.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
But also I'm like, laid out his outfit ahead of
time for him, So I mean, yeah, but yes, I
mean I take longer, but I would say, in the
grand scheme of things, and I probably take I could
take anywhere from ten minutes to thirty.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, that's nothing, that's nothing.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I don't know a FEELI it. Oh my god, you
don't protest too much.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh I stirred up a little something. That's for after
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I'm gonna be outside thanks.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
To You can hassle that out on your own time.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
All right, one more, let's go with Okay, if your
partner would perform one song live at Madison Square Garden,
what song would they choose?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Oh? God, she would do Baby Got Back.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
That's because our daughter started singing her basically and Terre
It almost died. He's like, what I've only I have.
I will dance all day long. I have not a
lot of rhythm. But I did want to dance recital
in seventh grade and it was a Baby Got Back?
And like, thankfully my mom did not record it. I
don't even know if my mom went, but I'm gonna
(37:44):
find it. She said she didn't go. I just when
she came last time, She's like, you know I didn't go.
Did that because I was like, why would you let
me wear this outfit? And what song would you sing?
Probably something my Pearl jam or just Breathe or that
John primesng you that you love so much.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Clay Pigeons.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I don't know if you'd seen it, though, I think
you would probably sing.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Actually, yeah, there's a song called Clay Pigeons by John
Prime that I love.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh, I'll look it up.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, it's like a huge like.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
No, he's not. He's not known for being Adele esque
vocalister because Stapleton style by any means he's just real
and raw and you can hear the pain the life lessons. Yeah,
Clay Pigeons by John Prime. I want to turn back?
What would you do?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
What do you mean? What would I do? What song?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
What would you do? Msg?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Oh? Bon Jovi Dead are alive?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Jersey boy, Jersey boy.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I had to stay drunk nights with that song growing up,
where perhaps my shirt ripped off.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
So yes, amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, I like, Oh my god, I wish that happens.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
That would be at John. I have not met John.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
No, he's one of the few people I've never met,
but I would love to meet him.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I did a movie with him twenty one years ago.
No way, Yeah, he's the.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Nicest guy I hear. He's the best, I mean, the
best of the best. He's I mean all his music.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
He wasn't bon job You wouldn't know he's bon Jovi.
It's just like, yeah, he did something. We were shooting
movie in Richmond, Virginia at the time. It was pretty
dangerous and it was a low budget film and they
got him like the nicest room at whatever hotel was there.
I don't think it was some massive place, but it
was like a very nice room. And he talked to
(39:28):
the producer after we checked in. He was like, Hey,
I don't need that big room, Like it's just me,
my kids, my family's not here, Like, can I get
a smaller room? And our producer was like are you sure.
He's like, yeah, man, I'm not low maintenance. I'm no maintenance.
Like just give me a normal room. You don't pay
for this, because he knew we were a small budget film.
Like that was the way it started. He's just the
(39:49):
nicest guy.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
See Jersey in the house.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I love that representing.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
We have come to that point of the show where
I ask every single guest who comes on, what is
one thing that you have never said before? So whatever
you're comfortable with sharing. I know you guys over the
years have done so many interviews and have talked about
so many things, so it might be challenging, but can
you think of anything that you have never said.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Before, never said before. I've been proudly open about my
own relationship with mental health, and that Always Keep Funding
campaign has been a great help for me, and I
think for many others that have expressed that it's helped them.
So I'll say this. It was twenty fifteen, at a
really low moment. I was open about going back and
(40:46):
going to therapy and going to a clinic, but I
was letting my thoughts kind of take over and go
into a place of like dramatic suicidal ideation, and called
my wife and she said get home, And so at home,
went to a clinic for a couple of weeks and
looked into it and haven't been suicidal since, not not
for a moment that hadn't been said. There are still
(41:09):
highs and lows that we talked about earlier, like you're
not you're a human, I'm a human, She's a human.
Everybody who's listening to this presumably as a human going
to be a human. So there are highs and lows,
and I don't know about what I have never said,
but I will say this for now, as I said
here today, today's a low just and I'm fine, nothing
(41:32):
to worry about, but there's a lot of I have
a lot of sadness about Walker the family, and again
my tears aren't for myself. But I know I'll be
fine because I'm talking to you about it. I talked
to Jen about it, I talked to my friends about it.
And so just to please please be open, please share,
Please find somebody, whether it's a friend or professional, and
(41:54):
speak and speak your truth. And just because you're low now,
you know, meet with triumph and disaster and with those
two imposters just the same, I know the other shoe
will drop. And I have friends I love, a new
friend I love, and family I love. So just excited
to be up there, be open, and something you said
earlier or Jen said earlier, will see just those two
(42:16):
words or one contraction and one word, but we'll see,
you know, something seems great, might not be. We'll see
something seems terrible. We'll see. Like keeping an open mind
and looking to tomorrow, looking to next week, next month,
next year has helped a lot. So just that, just
thinking about like, hey, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Thank you for opening up about that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, and Jim, before we get to you, Jared, I
think that it's so impoor and more and more people
talk about that. And you brought up something specifically that
I do want to touch on a little further because
I don't think a lot of people would feel safe
or often enough to reveal that. And you mentioned a clinic,
and I presume that's a place you actually went for
(42:56):
a period of time to get some help. And I
don't know, I don't know if you if you've talked
about that before or not, but I thank you for
that because I don't think people there's such a stigma
surrounding that. Still, there's a huge stigma around mental health still.
I mean, I've lost a friend to her mental health struggle,
which was a horrifying time in my life, and I
don't think people talk about that enough, but people certainly
(43:17):
don't talk enough about going to a place to actually
get the help. So thank you for sharing that and
for people listening who might feel like that's something they
could never bring themselves to do, even though they might
need to do that.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
What would you.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Say, Well, first, I don't think everybody needs it. I
got to a place where I needed it. I needed
a full reset. I had spent you know, fifteen years
in this industry where I was. You know, when you
go to an audition or a red carpet, they don't
want like, Jared, how are you doing today? Oh? Man,
today was rough and like I didn't sleep. They want like, oh,
(43:51):
it's great, like excited to be here, excited to be
you know. So I had done that for so long,
trying to focus, Like we talked earlier about like what's
best for the person who's talking to me as opposed
to like just being honest. And there's a time of place.
I don't wear it as a scarlet letter, Like it's
not like I'm shameful, Like, hey, I see a therapist.
I've been to a clinic. I like wear proudly, like
(44:13):
I put it on my face and like tell everybody
like yeah, dude, if you're not in the situation where
you need that degree of help, then don't seek it.
But I needed a surgeon, not literally, but you know
what I mean, Like, yeah, I needed it, and here
I am, and I've never been, Like I said, today's
a hard day. It's been a hard month since we
found out, But I'm in a great place with my wife,
(44:35):
our children, my friends, my family, and so I'm certain
without Jen and without my time spent really going like Okay,
these feelings and thoughts are real feelings and thoughts, but
they're not reality, Like how do I put those over there?
And like, Okay, I'm feeling really excited, that's going to change.
I'm feeling really down, that's gonna change. I'm feeling really anxious.
(44:58):
That's going to change. So just to look seek help,
open up, even if you don't think you need it,
Like even if you're doing it, like, hey, you're fit,
you're healthy, why not talk to a nutritionist? Why not
get a personal trainer to show you how to properly
do the squads? Like why not, like we spend all
this time, you know, we have financial planners. If you're
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fortunate not to have a job, you have prospit trainers
or Orange theory or whatever showing you how to properly
do a row, Like why not look at your brain?
Like you live in your brain? You know, we don't
have a brain. We are a brain and our body
just follows, So why not, Like it seems so silly
to not want to look into it, but not silly.
(45:39):
I don't want to want to make it sound flippant,
but if you have the opportunity, there are a lot
of resources out there, so please, please please please look
into it. And it's great, it feels great, that's a
great work.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Again, I'm so happy you're putting that out there. That's
something very important and a message that we never should
get tired of hearing.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
So thank you for that. And Jen, what about you?
Speaker 4 (46:03):
I'm not going to mention where what city hotel is
a more fun one. We went to bed and did
what married couples do or couples do, and in this
particular hotel room was not a configuration that I was
quite used to. And I wake up.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
And I realized that the door is closing on me.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
And I'm in the hallway of the hotel and I'm
butt naked. No, I'm asleep, he's he's sleep.
Speaker 7 (46:32):
I don't know where I am, but I just know
that the door just clicked and it kind of hit
me in the butt, and I'm like, where am I?
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Where am I? Why am I?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Where?
Speaker 4 (46:42):
What is happening right now? So I'm like I'm sweating
thing about I'm sweating everywhere I'm like, I'm sweating it. Well,
I'm sweat dripped out my body. I'm a butt naked
in the hotel. In the hallway. I'm going to go
to the elevator section. There's usually a phone there. Like
in my mind, I'm gonna dig myself out of this.
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I'm gonna figure this out. I'm gonna bang on the door.
Jared's gonna come out. It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
Like it's like two am. I'm the sixth floor hotel.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Don't even say don't think I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
You're like, I don't want video footage to be pulled up.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
I do want video to God, I don't even want
to know what happened. I don't want to see this.
Speaker 7 (47:21):
So I have the bag out of the door and
I'm like quietly baking me have the door said, I
want to wake anyone or someone looking through their people
like my naked ass.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
So I'm like bay out.
Speaker 8 (47:30):
The door, like please please answer the door, ring the bell, nothing,
and there was like a little living area, so I figured, well,
he probably can't hear it.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
So I start kind of walking my way down the
hallway and I go through a door not even thinking
about it, but our bedroom was attached to where this
through the door. So I go through the door but
realize it's cinder.
Speaker 7 (47:49):
Block, and I'm in the stairwell and I've locked myself
in the stairwell and I'm butt naked.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
There is like nothing.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
Around me except a cinder block, a door that's closed
in a stairwell, and some insulation on the ground that
I decided to.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Pick up and cover half my body with.
Speaker 8 (48:08):
So I fiberglass and asbestos off my butt and this
is so this is like a funny question, Like I
had to like kind of cover my body and like
cover half of it.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
And I've had friends comment like, well, why would you
cover like one boob and one butt? Shet like how
did you know?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
What?
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Up? I have comments on my choices of what I'm coming,
but I was, like I felt I was just doing
my best.
Speaker 8 (48:37):
So I'm like tiptoeing my way down theirs like six, six, seven,
eight nine, Who knows.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
How many don'ts me out to the backyard of the
hotel where the pool is buck my life. So I
go in and the only way in is through the.
Speaker 9 (48:56):
Bar, which is very It's closed, but there's a whole
cleaning crew, and it's very well lit and it's horribly lit,
in fact, so much so that you can see everything.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
And so I'm like, hey, anyone know where the lobby is?
It just like it was like, and everything goes quiet
and they're like looking at me and just like point.
Speaker 7 (49:18):
Oh imagine, I've never said this before.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
So I walked through the lobby. It's a lady there.
She's like, can I help you? I was like, yes,
can I have a rub leady as so politely like
some idiot, and she's like, okay, what's She goes and
(49:43):
I said, I left myself out of my room? Can
you please a new back? And yeah, Basically she's like,
what's your name? I was like Jennevie Padalaki. She's like okay,
so I obviously don't like have any idea on me,
and so he has to want me into the elevator.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
No elevator, oh god, Like.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
She like lets me into the room. I was like, no,
see this is my room.
Speaker 9 (50:14):
My husband's asleep over there, like and like you know,
she got proof of this is my room.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
I'm not some weirdo, like I swear like I know him.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
I promise she woke me up. I woke up out
of swords and I was also like looved. She's like
I was naked outside with as bestos, but I was
all over my butt. I was like, what are you
like you have like a nightmare? Like she don't have
night terrors. It's like what's going on on a wake
up walk? Sleepwalk?
Speaker 4 (50:41):
I cannot even.
Speaker 7 (50:42):
Tell you the story, but I'm telling the story because mortifying,
Like it's one of those moments where.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
I was like, it's like when you're naked on like
you dream about these moments of like being in class,
like butt naked, and you know, you think of four stories,
and like it fucking literally happened to me. And I'm like, okay,
just go to sleep. Like it's like count to ten.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
What can I do?
Speaker 4 (51:00):
I have to go to say, Okay, I have to sleep.
I sleep sleep. Then the next morning we have like
I will say, when we checked into the hotel, there
was maybe one or two people we called down for
the car, and I shit, you not. I think every
single person who worked for this hotel chain was all
lined up just waiting for me, like it was the
walk of shame, and so I just what some less
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is on?
Speaker 8 (51:22):
And I walked my little strutted right out there with
like mustard any confidence I could find.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Gone to the car and I was like, drive, we
gotta go, we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Now get.
Speaker 7 (51:38):
It was just like just so wild that you have
to like laugh at the at the experience of the
absurdity of being in this moment.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
And then what was really funny is we had a
dinner with some friends and I was like, oh, my god,
just just happened. And then they were all, yeah, that
happened to me. I was in the elevator too, and
I was like, oh.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
My god, Okay, I'm got It's so funny you told
the story. I was sworn to secrecy. I think I
told my brother and then she found out I told
him and she was like ever. I was like, okay,
well that's fine. So I can't believe she just shared
that with people.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Well that's a That's probably one of the best stories
I've ever heard of my entire life. I think the
headline that y'all are skipping over is something happened in
that bedroom that put you both into trance.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
So there you go, two of you that all right,
it's better, Yeah, take two will be better. Well to the.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Two of you.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
There's some magical shit happening over in that bed. So
I see how, I see how you guys are all
you guys, this, this conversation has been so much fun today.
I love that we talked about, you know, the projects
that people love, but really got to open up in
in deep and meaningful ways. And I mean I just
looked at the time and I'm so sorry I've kept
you for so long, but I feel like talking to
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you guys could last for eight hours. So I really
appreciate you coming on the show. I hope you guys
wtuate it as much as I as I have.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Well huge fans of your Yeah, we just you know,
we're so grateful to We feel like the ship being like, wow,
Tommy has is to be on the show. We're so
excited and we've been wanting to be on your show
for a long time. So we feel really honored and lucky.
And you just feel like an old friend and so
I'm excited to hang out more.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
And there are are amazing, beautiful mutual friend. Katini tomorrow
spoke super highly of you, and I was like, you
can't live up to that, but you surpassed. Yeah, you're
a great soul. Thank you so much for being here
and thanks for being a love.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Oh thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I appreciate that you have a friend and forever fan
of me now and I look forward to making some
memories in the future.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
Can't wait, hopefully not running naked through a hotel.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Never say never. I am from Journey and we're a
little crazy, So yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
We'll see you.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Never know, you never know, all right, I see you
guys soon and contracept I've Never Said This Before is
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