Run it Back: BroMitzfa da Shitza

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Jay dot Il, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey everybody,
this is Jail Scott. Thank you so much for continuing
to listen to Jay dot L the podcast. So we're
sharing our favorite episodes, and mine would have to be

(00:24):
the episode where Jet and I went on his bro Mitzvah.
The reason why it's my favorite is because one I
had a chance to experience something really really amazing with
my son, you know, offering him a piece of world,
you know what a wonderful experience, and me coming from

(00:46):
North Philly, like I never imagined that I would be
able to even do something like this, but we went
to Paris, we went to Botswana on two separate safaris,
one in the Kylajadi, the other in the Okavango Delta,
and the last experience was in Amsterdam. And you get

(01:07):
an opportunity listening to this episode to just to be
there with us, and hopefully it inspires you to want
to create some kind of bromts for or sis Miths forward,
you know, for your kid. You know, we have an
opportunity to bless our little people. And it doesn't matter

(01:30):
if it's a trip to New York or a trip
to anywhere just giving them something that sparks their interests
and enriches their lives. Thank you so much. Enjoy Hi everyone,
it's Amber the producer here. I just want to give

(01:51):
a quick disclaimer before we jump into the show, and
this episode the ladies make reference to some of their
personal health choices related to COVID nineteen. He wants you
to know The jedi El Podcast would like to clarify
that we are not authorized to give any medical advice
or recommendations. Any of our opinions are our own and

(02:11):
not a reflection of the views of I hear media.
Well them. Well, I'm going back to j dot el podcasts.
It's been a whole minute, not too long, but it's long,
you know. Um, Welcome back to j dot Ilga podcast.

(02:31):
I'm sitting here with my sister friends Liars, Saint Clair,
the loud one. My bad. It sounds so ladylike, it
sounds genteel. It's like Saint Clair, I don't know what
to do. I've got the wrong silver well or you
need to call Liars. Saint Clair shouldn't tell you what

(02:55):
to do. Oh, I love it. You a whole character, honey,
And that would be means she Jill, what is she?
You're a name? Her name? Do her name? My name
sounds like somebody's third grade teacher. It's a graden Dangeler, Dunsler.

(03:18):
It sounds like I've run a nonprofit. I can definitely,
you don't have to talk about what Jill Scott sound like.
That's that's it. My mother made sure I got a job.
She was like, she said, they ain't gonna know, They're
not not gonna know till you show up, baby girl,
until she put that exclamation point on it. Then it
was like, well, wait a minute, who's that hold up now? Jill?

(03:41):
It sounds like somebody drunk, That's what it sounds like. Yo.
You know how many people thinks to the show putting
exclamation points on their babies names. I'm just gonna tell
you it's happening. It's happening. Listen. I wouldn't put nothing past.
Like I told you. There's a brother on a TikTok
that talks about African Americans and linguistics and our language,
which which is affectionately called now aa vee, which is

(04:04):
African American vernacular English m the language, the language or
the words. It's a thing I think it's been a
lot of new language and words while we've been inside.
I don't know if it's just me, I don't like
what like what covid E? Girl, like what you just said?
A B E T T A V E. I feel like,

(04:28):
since covid, did we get a couple more letters for
the LBGTQ community. Oh plus, Yeah, you just go plus,
you just go. Well, I noticed that the plus is
there now that I didn't know about that before. But
don't think because we just found out it was it
hasn't been there for a long time. Oh yeah, well
they and they ended up adding some more eyes and a's,
and so when you start doubling up on letters, you

(04:50):
might as well just throw that plus up. And now,
just not to confuse the layman rights, all the sys,
all the cis heteros out here, right, But then also too,
one of my children was like putting me down that
there's not as multiple flags too. God, Hey, now, well
all right, that makes sense. I listen. I know it

(05:12):
confuses everybody else, but I enjoy it. I like people. See.
One of the one of the quands of principles is
name yourself, defining yourself for yourself. And so I feel
as if if you are defining yourself for yourself. I
am with you. A cheerleader, I've been with you in them,
so I am too. Yes, I'm with you. Listen, y'all.

(05:37):
We we had a we had a we had a summer.
I know it's um, it's kind of early in the
game far as summer's concerned. UM, but we really did
have quite the summer. This is the first time that
the three of us have really and truly been outside outside.
But for you too, you haven't been going anywhere. Everybody's

(05:57):
been staying close to home. You know, we're we're being mindful.
We're not really you know, throwing parties like that, but
you know, we're not having gatherings like that. But we're back.
You know. I see on the news that the COVID
cases are rising again, and we have to be mindful.
Nobody wants to wear a mask. I don't either. I

(06:18):
thought I was gonna do it for the rest of
my life. I don't want to talk. I don't think
you do. Yeah, it's not fun, but it's to me.
It's just the back and forth and the deciding about winning,
where and how long and what you're gonna do. That's
where I get confused, where I'm like, all right, when
I'm going in and out of stores, that's a habit, right,

(06:40):
So I don't even have to think about that. I
put it on, right I get on an airplane, absolutely
not going bare faced on the airplane. Forget that you're
good they are a good one. I can't believe people,
I'm gonna put it on, you know, I'm gonna put
it on on that good people's airplane. But if I'm
in a restaurant, you know what I'm saying, and there's
nobody in there, and I gotta eat anyway, I gotta

(07:02):
take it off to eat. It's about when you walk
into your seat. When you walk into your seats, right,
I keep it on and then I go eat. But
then I'll be thinking to myself where I'm eating it.
So that's where I get confused. I'm just being honest,
and I'm definitely pro masking. I'm definitely pro vacs. You
don't have to get into you know, and nobody got
to hit me up on the side. Yeah, that's what

(07:23):
we did. We're about that. But my point is as
as I'm as we're moving towards like you know, the
rest of this, you know, navigating the outside. Those are
the things that sometimes get me a little frazzled. I
won't lie, what should I do? You know, It's like
I'm jumping into the jump rope. Like, just think about
aerosol and somebody and somebody aerosol in your mouth, and

(07:43):
how convenient is it for them the aerosol in your
mouth within six feet is that they would then six
set taking aerosol in your mouth, especially if they're facing you.
There you go, that's it. Aerosol in your mouth, jill face,
sick fall in your mouth. I don't know the scientific
way to say. And I'm done. I'm just I'm two

(08:07):
weeks over to the COVID, so I'm like, yeah, I'm
back to being massed up. And I did two days
at the goddamn Roots pic Neck and didn't get the
motherfucking COVID. I got to say, I must attribute this
to colloridial silver. I am learning. Shout out to Suzanne
Christine who told me that if you spray the collordial
silver and your mouth, you will keep the virus off.
So I think it worked at the Roots Picnic. Then

(08:27):
I got bougie and comfortable, went to the real cute
seats at the Hollywood Bowl for juneteenth and got the
goddamn COVID on June teenth and didn't spray the collordial silver.
So I'm just saying to the people, I ain't saying
it's secure, but I think that it may work. Clover
and silver. It's powerful, like rubbing it in. Yeah, for
like I heard, sometimes it helps your scars and stuff.

(08:50):
He'll quick, quick, good to know, good to know. So yeah,
so yeah, I got I got the COVID. I mean, luckily,
I feel blessed because I'm like, you know, triple boost
and so I just headaches and chills and fever for
a day. But being inside for seven days that ain't cool.
That it's not fun, I will have to say. But
I will say that, you know, having to kind of
get out and experience the world has also been a

(09:12):
part of people's self care over being locked up for
a couple of years. And I have to say, of
all that this summer that we made up for quite
a bit. Okay, okay, yeah, can you please tell us
what you have done this for summer thus far? Oh?
I mean that's I mean work, y'all know, I'm a traveler,
so I don't let the virus stop that. So I've

(09:32):
been doing that a little bit. Yeah, I've been. Yeah,
because like like Asia said, mask and whatnot? Yeah, no U.
But yeah, I don't know. I think, like I said
when I went to the Rootspecking, that was the first
time going out to an outdoor concert for real, for real,
and that felt so good. That felt like a whole
reunion of sorts. And yeah, I'm just been I've been outside.

(09:55):
Just don't stuff ride my bike doing it, you know,
I don't think. To be honest, I haven't. The only
new thing I did was be around people. And I'm
about to go somewhere again. I'm fed to travel, even
though I'm kind of magic and they lifting these mandates
and I'm not liking that. I like going places where
they make you get tested before you leave and then
nice yes, yes, he's like, because we kind of want

(10:16):
to know. Yeah, and before you get on the plane,
we let me see your paper, sir, so that way
you know everybody on the plane. We're good for this plane.
But I'm gonna still keep my mask on. Yeah I
missed that. I'm here for your storage, Jill. I want
to know all about the June. Look at your face.
Your face immediately just went into relaxed and enjoying us
when she said your June, I love it coming to it. Okay, friends,

(10:41):
I am certain that I had the best trip of
my entire life. Jet turned thirteen. That's my son. For
anybody who doesn't know, he turned thirteen. And I was like,
damn black boys in America, you know, or around the world,
except for maybe Africa. Obviously, they don't have a writer passage.
You know. If you're Zulu, you know, you go up

(11:03):
the mountain and for anybody who knows what that is,
you know what that is? Where from from what I understand,
if you go up the mountain, you go up the
mountain and there's men there and they teach you how
to do important things that help to establish your manhood.
And by the time you get back to your village,
you're a young man and people treat you as such.

(11:24):
Right for Jewish boys, you got your brab mentzvah. You
have to learn a passage in Hebrew. That's not easy.
You know, you have a big old party, everybody celebrates you,
and brab mitzvahs are a lot of fun. But I
was like, what do you do? You know, wait till
our kids are like sixteen to have a sweet sixteen

(11:44):
or fifteen for King Tiniera with some people do. So
I decided a couple of years ago I started putting
money away. And I know, I know people will hear
me say something like that, like I started to put
money away, But I need you to understand that I
saved for the things that I want to do, okay,

(12:05):
and I compartmentalized money the same way that I compartmentalized
my emotions sometimes. So I wanted to do it big
and I took I took money out of everything that
I earned, and I put it towards this trip for Jet.
I called it a bro Metzvah. I saw that on

(12:26):
Blackish once and I thought that that was really fly.
I was like, okay, a bro metzvah. But we didn't
want to. I didn't want to do a party because
it's been two years. Kids haven't really been hanging out
like that. So I'm gonna have a bunch of awkward
kids in the space, and I'm gonna pay a whole
bunch of money to have them look weird at each other.

(12:47):
I decided Jet had been talking about Paris for quite
some time. So how we flew to Paris. This was
his first time on like in business class. He was
just like, the chair was so fuss, all the buttons,
all the button the chair was so fun. And I

(13:09):
was like, this is about to be dope. Okay, that's
when I got excited. I was like, look and then
the food came. He looked at this meal like, m
this is great. We've been on first class tablecloth on
my table. We've we've even flown private you know before,
but this is our first time flying overseas together ever. Um.

(13:29):
He had a passport when he was seven weeks old,
but not not one you know that he could be recognized.
So now he's thirteen and he's got this passport with
his real pictures. So he's like that. I think they
have every movie ever. Was mom could watch movies, discuss
many movies. I want to yes, just the just I

(13:50):
took a video of him when he realized that the
chair turned into a bed. It was it was it
was like reliving that moment all over again. For for me,
I was like, this is great, this is gonna be great.
So we arrived in Paris and we just took it
really easy. We stayed at the Four Seasons because I
told y'all I put money aside from I saved for this.

(14:13):
We walked in there, it was flowers everywhere. It was
so god darn beautiful. Jet was. He just kept saying, dang, Mom, Wow,
my mom almost like yeah, this is He's like, oh,
I need to know where the flowers were. All the
flowers were. We were like wow. And all the people
were so fancy and they were dressed so sharp. This

(14:35):
this one guy walked by and Jet was like, oh,
I looked the dude's suit was tailored so well in
the fabric. Jet was like, dang, mom, that man looked nice.
I was like, totally look nice. Okay. So we get
into our room. It's all frenchy dingy. It's super frank

(14:58):
frenchy dingy. What is that? Even me? I love it?
And and and yellow with with um rich kinds of like
deep fabrics and swear up in this this beautiful room.
And we're like, okay, we're tired, so we're taking that anyway.
I'm not going to do this, see because it's so
much um. We get out into the world. It's beautiful day.

(15:19):
Paris is just is bright and it's it's exciting because
the everything is so damn pretty. The ark, the streets
are like, oh, you know. The breakfast we ate was like, oh,
what was the first breakfast? Wait, give me something I need?
I need to breakfast. It was simple. We just had like, um,
scrambled egg on on bread. But French scrambles be different.

(15:45):
French scrambled eggs be different. Right there, It's like they
just stay there, just rise in the paint. I don't know.
Fluffy had to close my eyes and hold on something
because the French butter, my friends, the French the botter. Oh,
I said, well, I mean we've had a bunch of

(16:07):
moments now. We were walking out. They were sitting in
the park, looking at the Eiffel Tower, walking around, you know,
the neighborhoods, looking at people's dope ass houses, doing dope
as stuff. You know. I'm a boyer, so I'm all
looking in windows like look at you know, and Jetta
is right along with me. He's fun. You're gonna get
us apprestive. So we had this conversation about two things

(16:32):
because we ended up going to two major cities, and
I was like, hey, listen, you know we we're looking
at the TikTok's and stuff. He's sending these things and
he's like, we went to Paris and we went to
amstam Um and he was like, Mom, we have to
be really mindful of pick pockets and in the real
you know, towards the areas. Okay. So we've we've we've

(16:53):
been talking about this a lot, like if I have
to go on my purse, I'm gonna need you to
be like a mere cat and look in every direction.
He was like, what's a mirrorcat? I was like, boy,
so he had to look up a mirrorcat that was
see first of all, youse, haven't you seen a lion king? Yes?
Thank you? Huh yes, So a mirrorcat is Timon Timona

(17:15):
and Pomba Timona is Americat and Poomba is a ward hall. Okay,
I knew that part. Okay, thank you. And mirrorcats you
jump out of the sand and they look here and
they look and we're looking out for each other. We
put the little bands on our phone so we can
have our phones around our wrists because we've heard that
people will run by a snatch your phone and keep going.

(17:36):
So we're trying to be mindful of all of these
things and have a really good time. And um Jack
became like my little hey, I'm saying, he became he's
taller than me now, but he became like my protector.
And when he had an inkling that something was wrong,
I said, We're going to follow these things wholeheartedly, no
matter where we go. If we feel like it's time

(17:57):
to go, if you feel that deep in your spirit
and you just want to leave, we leave in It's
not a discussion. It's not a discussion. If I tell
you jet walk to me, slowly, walk to me slowly,
don't be like mom, we'n what you don't look club.
I don't want to hear all of that. It's important, Yeah, travel, etiquette, safety.
We're gonna do this because it's you and me and

(18:20):
nobody else in the world right now. Like we don't
know anybody. We don't we don't have any friends in Paris,
we don't you know, so all right, and we've seen
taken exactly. Listen, I'm just saying, and Auntie Aga does
not have a certain set of skills. Okay, I know
somebody that know somebody. I know somebody that knows somebody

(18:41):
that do though, So we go to the Eiffelhower. That
was dope. We went at midnight so we could see
it light up, you know, and it was it was lovely.
It just was lovely. And we also saw a very
big rat and we were like wow. I was like, yep,
this city, homie, don't forget damn big like a raccoon.
Oh like New York, like past New York. Ill, but

(19:02):
you know, it's it's a big city. It's like you said,
you gotta you can you take the romance saying the
you know, the practicality. So it was sean delize all
of that. And then we went to the Louver and
this was this was a moment for me. Um. First
of all, the Louvers is gigantic. It is the premier

(19:24):
art gallery of the world. And first things first, we
went straight to Egypt. So we go there and Jet says, Mom,
you know if if if you dig up somebody's grave,
they call it grave Robin right, like it really wrong.
And I said, I say, that's my said. This trip

(19:47):
is about this. This this trip is about hearing him
out and him opening his mind and seeing things and
tasting things and discovering that the world is just amazing
and huge. You better kill Monger that joint. You better
kill Monger that joint. Listen, I told you what time
we was in the museum. I was in a museum
with the twins one time and they had like a
room where there was a mummy and Lana was just like, yeah,

(20:09):
it's gonna be a no for that. She was like,
she said, they didn't disturb that person's spirit and the rest,
and we're not going. She was like an old black lady.
She was like, oh no, no, no, no, we need
to get a byt of here. We can't go in there.
I was like okay, I said, okay, So we left
and then we went and we saw the Victorian design

(20:31):
and all the rich fabrics and all of that stuff.
That was real cool. And then we went to see
Mona Lisa, and you know, we took a picture in
front of that thing and he was just like, I
was like, that's what I said. It was like, it's
really a man. It's really a man kind of moment. Yeah,
that is so interesting. That is so interesting because twenty

(20:53):
years twenty one years before when I first started traveling
a bit, I'm gone to this Senegalese restaurant called Lovey
Lodge on Lovy Lodge, and I was like, I want,
I wonder if they're still open on them They were
still open, same place and everything. He went and had
a wonderful Senegalese meal. Um, it was awesome and it

(21:16):
was this painting of a lion and a cub and
I was like getting on emotional. I was like the sign,
you know, I know, look they don't be knowing, but
your little heartbeat heart just be going all of this.
He you know, he he had rather TWI and you know,
he closed his eyes and he was like, my god,

(21:37):
my god. I looked and I was saying, yes. He said,
he's such an old man. I love j child like
he is. I just yeah, my god, oh my god.
I was like, okay, it was so delicious. I had
no idea what rather tweet was. I saw the movie.
I don't know what it is. I'm not gonna lie
and squash. It's vegetables and some kind of sauce and

(22:00):
I don't know who prepared it, but they put angel
dust in that thing, some kind of fairy juice, and
it was so tender and delicious. I was like Okay,
I ain't no girl, more real talk after the break.

(22:27):
We love Paris, Okay, all right, so let's get to
the to the other part of this trip. We leave
Paris and we head to South Africa. I forgot about
that part. We get to South Africa, told him, I said, hey, listen,
this was a trick. Okay, yeah, how long a trip
is a well, from Paris to South Africa. It was

(22:47):
about ten or eleven hours. Okay, I'm not too bad,
but this is new for him. He's never flown this
long before the ETA was broken. So he was like,
I know, I slept for eight hours, Mom, I know
I did. How is it still four? How is it
all this time left? And I was like, it's not right. Okay,
just relax, you got a little bit time left again.

(23:09):
The flight was great, um, the whole deceeding and all
that other stuff. He loved it and thought it was
so dope. He kept looking at me like, damn girl.
You know, he kept giving me the damn girl, look
that thing good. Anyway, we go from South Africa and
we take a little flight to my womb um that's
in Butuana. So thus far he's gotten three stamps on

(23:31):
his passport, one to Paris, one to South Africa, and
one to Butwana. So we're back where I was pregnant. Why,
oh god, that's a lot. I know you was crying.
I just was watching most and the arrangement you must
have made based on your knowledge of that area, like,
oh right, So being able to go back and having

(23:53):
it not be a new experience for you so that
you could be the we discussed things together. So I'm
gonna say that I went to Paris. We went to
Paris first because he really wanted to go to Paris.
He wanted to see what it was hit before. And
I think that we had a great meandering of streets
and walk of thinnes. We definitely had some walk of thinness.

(24:16):
You know. He got to those ceilings. Friends, if you
have not been to the Louver and in Paris that
art museum, the detail, even the wood on the floors,
the ceilings, your camera will never quite do justice. It

(24:37):
gives a good idea what you saw, but it doesn't
really give you the dimensions of things. And he also
had an opportunity to see that the moors were present
around Jesus consistently in those in those paintings. I was like,
you know, pointing out the moors, pointing out the brown
skin you know, all over the place is particularly you

(24:59):
know in Greek uh in some of the Greek ared
we saw a lot of brown people. That's not an accident,
that's not time, that's not discoloration. I was like, wow, okay,
did they get Jesus's color right now? Hello? Those hotels,
those those images are in abatment of the Vatican. Oh oh, okay,

(25:19):
the afro downstairs, but the press out is upstairs. I
got you, I got you. So now we're in my
own and then we take a helicopter. Yep, we took
a helicopter to the Okavanga Delta. It's the jungle of Bruttara.
We're going on. Oh, I can't wait to see what
we land. I can't wait to see what we end
up coming, right because man, we went to see what

(25:42):
man did with all of this amazing architecture and this
beautiful artwork and these the sculptures and all of this stuff.
Making hair of a blow with stone like that was
really truly beautiful. A jill, can you spell that? Could
we could? We want to look as you're talking, I'm sorry,
what's what you spell that for me, it's really what

(26:02):
it sounds like, okay va delta, Okay, oh thank you,
or they or they all say okavango. I think American
says okavango, but it's okay, yeah, I'm about to go
on this tour with you. As you talking, you didn't
know that, but I'm here for this. Just like people
say Botswana, but it's really Botswana. It really is. When
you twa, we know that Asian and I now we're

(26:25):
we're aware now, but you we did not know prior
to the Jay do Ill podcast. Botswana, Zambia, Mozam no
Mozam beach and Botswana, so let us speak about our
mother land. That's when I learned all of the African
countries and that song. Right there, I'm in the helicopter

(26:46):
with Jet and we're watching the earth change. It went
from my womb and it's it feels kind of uh,
it feels like a beach town, but there's no beach
and we're flying over and all of a sudden, there's
absolutely nothing for as far as the yay I can see.
And he just understand how big Batuana is and then

(27:09):
how big the Okavanga delta is. So we we flew
for an hour on a helicopter too. We all of
a sudden there was water and you can see crocodiles
doing what crocodiles, dude. You can see um impala and
key do and elephants and zebra and everything. It's right

(27:31):
below us and Jet I could you know, I'm kind
of you know, looking at the corner of my eye
to see what he's doing. And he's just got his
mouth open like this is real. I said, I'm gonna
take you to Lion King, okay, And that's where we're going.
So we get we laying there and they have a
van a truck waiting for us. You know, you've seen
them on TV, the Safari trucks. So we get in.

(27:55):
Of course they're going to offer us beverages because when
I tell you, when you go on Safari, the one
thing that they're going to do two things for sure. Um,
they're definitely going to feed you like crazy. I want
to know what that is. Okay too, I want to
eat a half bath. And you're going to go on
Safari at least three times a day because it's it's

(28:18):
literally never the same show twice. I mean, I see
that okay, so walk us through these things, Jill. I
need to know what the food is. I needn know
what the different things you saw in the safari. Yeah,
what y'all eat? I guess lounge if you will. Everything
is on is on a platform, so we're not on

(28:41):
the ground the tents because we stayed in a tent.
The tenths that we're in are not on the ground.
Everything is like a bridge. Right, we're high up. Um,
not too high. UM, maybe about a good ten feet
off the ground. Um. Right. So that's all like really pretty.

(29:04):
Everything is just really well done. And it's what you
imagine with the white curtains and the um. It doesn't
have heat, it doesn't have air condition. Um. At night,
it gets very very cold, depending on the time that
you go. But they put what they call bush babies

(29:24):
in your in your bed um and and bush babies
are hot water bottles that are covered in something fuzzy
and it keeps your bed nice and warm. So every
night there's bush babies in your bed and you're it's
so happy to have them because this brick is really
really cold in the desert at night. But the dag

(29:48):
on foods, you know, I'm here with it. The lady
comes out and when I tell you, everybody's so pretty,
like they're just pretty. That's that was one of Jet's
first observations. He's like, Mom, everybody's just so pretty. I said,
this is crazy, right, just crazy. All different kinds of faces. Um,

(30:12):
some some with really big guys, some with slanted eyes,
some some really fair skinned, some some wide nose, some
big lips, some one big lip, one small lip, some freckles,
some balls. You know, this is people. People come in
all different shapes and sizes, but that there's something else
that is attached to these folks. It's like a light

(30:34):
within that is just you can't ignore it. So the
pretty lady comes out and I can't remember her name,
it was it was like four syllables forgive me. And
she comes out and she says, today I have prepared
for you and ted Acle, I'm soup with a fresh
crema and a sparticles. And then she goes on and

(30:57):
we're like just amazed, just like look, I'm like, oh,
whatever you say, you know, we're gonna eat it. Why
was it even better than Paris? Of course? Because way better,
like way better of course we got because these them
seasons there is just incredible and they feed you breakfast, lunch, dinner,

(31:19):
and high tea. They typically have like an English breakfast,
which is some baked beans, eggs, sausage. Um. They had
beef sausage, they had chicken sausage. I was like, thank
you so much. Um. And I don't recall eating like
fresh muffins and things like that. But they made omelets.

(31:43):
They made. The thing that Jet loved the most was porridge.
He loved porridge. Just ate it slow and looked at
the spoon and he was like, this is crazy porridge.
He loved porridge. Okay, so we go out on safari
and you know, I'm a little nervous because now I'm
second guessing myself. Did I just bring my cup out

(32:06):
here to get epped by something? Because you do have
to sign a waiver saying that if you happen to
die itself, the fault that you fully knew that you
were coming to an area where they're a wild and
honey mouths. That's a moment. They make sure that you
know as much as possible. How you know, they take
every precaution, every procution to make sure that you're safe,

(32:28):
and you have to follow the dog on rules. Don't
go off the damn bridge and decide you're gonna take
a walk. You're not safe, dummy, you know, but bab
boon could kill you. Mind you. They're babboons outside of
our room, and they are we just sitting on the
deck and just watch them play. And the baboons and

(32:50):
the zebra and the impala and the kid. They're all
together because you know, they're not out here eating meat.
They're just chilling, just chilling. It's so much to say.
We saw a leopard. They had killed a zemina and
had a piece of the legs up on the tree,

(33:11):
and she just looks She looked so satisfied. She looked
so satisfied. Her legs were gapped over, and I said, wow.
Our guide, his name was Kambungle. We also Delta, Delta
just he wanted to make sure. I told him while
we were there, and he really made sure to educate

(33:34):
Jet and Tom to go as close as possible. We
were so close to lions. I just was like, I
prayed the whole time. We also had a flat tire
while we were in the tall brush all bush. It
was during the day, but that means nothing. And the lions.

(33:54):
The lions are the exact same color as the bush.
And I stood up and Jet was like, what are
you doing? And I said, I'm looking like a mere cat,
and he was like, here you go with this meercat.
I was like, I'm watching because all I could think
of was if a lion happens to come out and
God for big killed come bonga, the wheels off. And

(34:19):
even if I could drive this truck, I don't know
where to go. We started an hour ago, an hour
in every direction, you still have not reached them. The
delta is so big. We saw hippopotamus, we saw ostrich,
We saw babylons, we saw leopard, we saw lions, we

(34:41):
saw so many. We saw eagles, white eagles. I didn't
know they existed. We saw my favorite animals, the key due.
We saw loads of them with their pretty selves, whatever
kind of mixture they are. We saw jackals, we saw
oh boy, we saw it off, and we saw morning, noon, tonight.

(35:01):
Because the show is never the same, like the animals
are always doing something. Yeah, they're living, They're okay. So
this is my first example. Oh god, oh my god,
a freedom. This is what freedom looks like. This is
there's no confines here. This is what freedom. It's like

(35:22):
You're able to do whatever you want, whenever you want,
however you want, for as long as you want. Period. Okay,
So um at night that the sky turns read sometimes
it's purple, sometimes it's it's it's the orange. Like we
can't fathom the way that the moon shines and the

(35:43):
way that the pictures do no justice. There's no camera
I think that could capture what these colors really look like.
So we spent four days there with them. Then we
took a helicopter to um the Kalajadi desert. Wow. At
this point, can I just ask an American question, Jill?

(36:03):
At this point, how are you guys avoiding the bites,
the bug bites these things? Are you still buck bite free?
Because y'all was standing in it's also fabric all around
you to make sure that you're that you don't get bitten.
They have the spray called boom in the room. UM,
so you can spray boom just in case if you
you know, you feel away. But I make it a
point to go um if and when I traveled to

(36:25):
to Putuana, I'm not going in there summer. I go
in the winter, okay, So, and that's June and July
are the best times to travel to me. And and
at winter the weather it's still what in June July
and what is done. It's reasonably warm during the day,
but it's a different sun there. It's a whole different
sun there. Okay, So warm is you know, eighties, upper

(36:49):
eighties um during the day and at night somewhere under twenties.
We slept in sweatsuits and fuzzy socks. Well yeah, I mean,
and I heard that the desert can't get really cold,
but I didn't think you're that cold, not that cold,
and that less it's the bugs because they don't be
around in the cold, that's true. So at least you

(37:10):
know when you're sleeping, they ain't gonna get you in
that sleep. So that experienced. They laid out the carpet
and then then there was one moment when they wanted
to tell me how they felt, and I didn't see
it coming, and it was very emotional. They were just
talking about my time there as modern mostway and um
in front of jet which was really awesome. You know

(37:33):
that I had introduced Patuana too so many to the world.
That was very emotional and they were like, we love you.
And they told jet Um. You hear about these stories
when when somebody says you're in Africa, welcome home. But
they were like, jet you were, you were created here,
you were, you were created here, Welcome home. They knew that. Wow,

(37:59):
you know. And I was three three weeks pregnant when
I when I got there, and I know they wanted
to give you all the advice and all of the things.
So yeah, I'm sure they were heavily invested. I mean,
that's just so beautiful. That's so beautiful. It's still bugging
me out how how beautiful it all was. So I'm
gonna try to make it brief because I've been talking

(38:20):
my head off. No, this is good because he is
going to this is going He's going to open up
bits and pieces of this gift over the years. You
know what I'm saying. It's going to continue to kind
of gift him forward. And it's it's good for people
to hear it because because you're also creating like goals
for people in a way like I never thought about

(38:41):
doing that. Okay, like Jill did. I might have to say,
my ducks because that sounds really cool. Right, And that's
that's the cool You're giving people a very real kind
of you know, just this moment where they can say
I can come up with the thing and create it
and then follow through and that these are all the
elements to what it would look like and feel like.
And then it goes with with whatever budget you have

(39:03):
that if we can't if we're not doing the big party,
you know, if we're not doing the walk with all
the men, you know, and they take the boy away
for you know, a week's time or whatever the case,
if we're not doing those things and we have to
do something to acknowledge, you know, that they're going into
their manhood and that they're going into their womanhood as well.

(39:24):
Like these things are super valuable, you know, I think. Anyway,
So we're in the Kalajadi. This is the most luxurious shit. Honestly,
I've ever seen this tent. The tent is a mansion, baby, Okay.
The fabrication of the tent is rich. That there's there's
um Persian rugs all over, Moroccan rugs all over the floors,

(39:50):
the sculptures, the mahogany beds. We both have four post
mahogany beds um. The bathroom has a as a chaise
la ounge in it, made with yellow velvet. The toilet
is an absolute throne of mahogany. Like you gotta be
kidding me. Ye, Look, we had our private pool, our

(40:12):
punge pool. We had an outdoor shower and an outdoor
toilet and they were separate from each other, just in
case you felt like taking the poop in the bush.
We went on safari twice a day because we were like,
we're a little bit We took naps in between. So
we got up in five three. We had an amazing breakfast.
Every day we went out, saw all the things in

(40:36):
the desert. It's different. So we're now we're looking at
we're looking at we're looking at the sky, we're looking
at the animals. Of course, we ended up bumping into
a very large lion, like okay, I don't understand what
a bump a bump. He just happened to turn the corner.
He was there in the car. We had a cage around.
There's no cage around the car. So he saw us,

(40:58):
we saw him, and then we just sat quietly and
he did He was like oh uh, and went on
about his business doing what he was doing because he's
free and living without fear. There's nobody there to shoot
him or hunt him or kill him. Right, So he
was like, oh, there's one of these things, huh. And

(41:19):
he's not hungry so because and we're also not exactly
on the menu, um, but there is. I've heard many times,
um that people get killed in Safari because they don't
follow the rules. They get out the van, they get
out the Safari jeep, they go and want to take
a picture with the lion like it's freaking simble. It

(41:41):
ain't and ain't. I can guarantee you they ain't got
this brown on their arms. I can guarantee you those people, girl,
Because what we're gonna do is follow the rules. We're
gonna do. We're gonna take a quick break and then
we'll be right back. We're we're in the Kalajadi. They're

(42:14):
serving meals that are so beautiful. Give us wine, Come on, jil,
give us, come on. They said, we've have we have
fried chicken and a lintil salad. And I was like, oh, okay,
I don't know what to expect this chicken. I don't
know they fried the chicken. It was so light and
crispy um and it was just the moistest pieces of chicken.

(42:38):
I need to take a picture of LA's face. I'm
sorry I got lost. Don't nobody talk about food like Jill.
You know that it'd be like close your eyes, y'all.
Just the salad was cold and the chicken was hot.
And they have something called pi pi. He said. The
salad was going and the chicken was hot, like it
was a surprise. I'm sorry, y'all's eyes is closed, and

(43:01):
y'all look like y'all two seconds away from a whole moment.
But it's fine. Popo sae. It's an oil. It's an
oil with all these peppers in it. It's like a
vinical oil with a lot of peppers. And you just
marinated and I poured that hot. It was. It was hot,

(43:21):
but it was like the righteous hot. It wasn't It
was hot, and you with a hint of sweet at
the end, not burning. It was sweet at the end.
I was like, oh, th friend, I ate Pilly Pilly
popo and everything. I couldn't stop myself. Sometimes I just
did a piece of bread and put some pill. Somebody
give me something to stop this up with, please, somebody

(43:43):
got a little piece of bread please, so so so
so so so so so so so that was the
meal for me. I ate it all. And I watched
the sea with Jimmy. He ate it all, and we
just looked at each other like, this is what's happening. Okay,
you talked about the food, but can you just tell
us did you have any cocktails? Did you have any?
Every day? Every day? They serve your dreams all day long.

(44:07):
And I never knew how good a Gin and Tonic was.
I was never a Gin and Tonic girl. Now I am.
That is the perfect summertime refreshing, just a little hint
to get your tipsy, just a little. I love a
Gin and Tonic. Now I'm in with a splash of lemon.
I'm in lemon on line, Okay, lemon on live. And

(44:27):
if I can get Botswana gin, that's what that's really amazing,
all right? All right? So we go for a walk
with the bushmen. They're called by saddleway. Fine, they look
like Asian folks. They look like Asian folks, but they're
really brown, and they they're titties is out? Okay? And

(44:51):
I just get the bushmen, know, right, or the bush
bushmen and women you know how you know how patriarch
is of course, yeah, we don't get a work. Won't
get a word, right, man, don't get a full word.
But there are women and of all eighties, um and
you know, titties out, and beautiful necklaces like string beads
are all over their bodies, and they have very short

(45:15):
hair that looks just like the earth. I swear it does,
like from a distance in the helicopter when you look
down on the earth, it's the exact same textures. Come
on and they take us for a walk. They speak,
they are one hundred thousand of them left. This is it.
This is it because the world is coming and the

(45:37):
kids want to experience other things, you know, and there's
very few, you know, one hundred thousand left that really
want to. I guess hold on to that. But they're trying.
They're trying. So they take us out for this walk
and they're they're all of a sudden, you know, they're digging,

(45:57):
and they're telling us about all the earth and all
the stuff. You get this take this dug a hole
and found some big ass thing. And they were like,
boil this is for pains. And I was like, damn,
I wish I could take this whatever, this thing it's
with me? Right, you did notice cell bring foil? Right?
A scorpion, right, this big scorpion they dug out the

(46:21):
ground and now they're playing with it. And I was like,
you know, I'm allergic to be stings, so now you know.
But they're they're telling us they didn't really they didn't
really speak English. We had a translator who had to
live with them in order to learn how to speak
the language, because people who speak Paddi, people who speak
Zulu pulsa, I don't know how to say that. Right,

(46:43):
whatever the language is, this is not that. This is old, old, old, old, okay,
And it takes a lot of time, and you have
to live, you have to be completely immersed in it
in order to learn it. And even still our guide
spoke six or seven languages, but he said he lived

(47:04):
with them and still struggles. He said, I can hear,
but I can't speak as well as I wish I could.
I was like, damn, okay. So they play with the scorpions.
The guy this this, the bushman puts the scorpion in
his mouth. I'm never I'm bugged out. I'm bugged out.
He was like, there, there are friends, there are toys.

(47:26):
We play with them. And they dug another hole, put
their dude away and buried him. And I was like,
it's scorpions in this damn doesn't really big factas right
underneath us. So now Jet and I are looking everywhere
because we are a little bit scared. Now, yeah, I'm
going back to meercat status. You know, have thorns in
our socks and trying to act like everything is cool

(47:48):
because their barefoot. Why aren't they stopping to take thorns
out of this socks because it hurts. How you got
you got shoes on the right, Yeah, but there's there.
These thorns are coming up under the under the hands
or something I don't know, and getting stuck like a
tiny mean needle, like a mean little needle. Well, this

(48:09):
is the reality also of nature and being outside and
you know, different terrain. We struggled with that one because
every few steps it was a new mean needle. And
when we didn't want to, we didn't want to play
ourselves like you y'all don't have no shoes on, how
are you not getting stuck by mean needles? I was like, yeah,

(48:30):
so they made fire out of jackal dung. How you
make fire to dodo, I don't know, but what we
watched it, we were amazed. We were mazed. I mean
I never even seen the jackal. Wait fire, I mean
out of the jackal, I'm dung. Wow. Okay, there's a
gas or something that comes off of poople. Well they

(48:52):
mashed it up and it was like soft because there's
a like a like like hey, it turns into kind
of like hey, so you know, enough friction it became fire.
We were like damn happy too. And it's crazy. The
pictures that we took with the with the bushmen, they
came out black, all of them in that crazy what

(49:14):
you feel like some things weren't meant to be seen
or you can't see their faces. And the pictures in
between are there, but the pictures directly with them standing
next to them are black. And we were like, oh wow,
in that dope. They bring us our lunch outside. It's
so it's so jazzy, it's so special, it's so extra okay,

(49:36):
all the things, and then we take ATVs into the
salt flats. A TVs are those four wheels vehicles. The
salt flats are as big as Switzerland. It's where your
water used to be, but no more, right, and so
it's like it's like white on the ground with the

(49:56):
big cracks. Yes, and we went directly into the salt
flass beautiful on the a TVs where we sped like crazy.
The guy was like a valet. He was like, you
want to go fast style? Jed was like yes, because
he's driving himself for the first time. Yes, and that

(50:19):
was dopeest shit. We get out, We get way out there.
We drove for like an hour into the salt flats.
That's what I'm saying. That's how big it is, Okay,
And then we get off and he says, find an
area by yourself. And I noticed that as I'm walking,
there's really no sound out there. There's no sound. Yeah,

(50:39):
I felt like that. Well, it's not the same, but
like out in the desert when you go to like
Arizona and stuff like that, Like you get out to
a certain point and it's like standing in like a
studio or something like, it's like flat, no sound. It
was deep and I honestly started to feel a little
fear because I'm not accustomed to not hearing any sounds.
But I was safe. I knew I was safe because

(51:01):
we're an hour away from any trees or vegetation. Animals
are not walking out there. They'll die, they know better. Yeah,
there's nothing growing out there. So he says, all right, now,
lay down, and we're in three different places, and he says,
enjoy the sunset. And the sky turned peach and then

(51:24):
it turned blue and then and then all of a sudden,
there were stars just popping up. I've seen you know, obviously,
we've all seen stars before, but they turned colors. They
were green and red and yellow. I've never seen a
rainbow of stars before. And then they were shooting stars

(51:48):
in between, not one, not twelve, not fifty, just so so,
so many. And he says, all right, now after and
now realize that we have to ride back. Yeah, there's
there's lights on the ATVs, but we also have to

(52:09):
ride through the bush on these ATVs. The driver, i
mean the guide valet shout out the valet. He's in
the front, jets in the middle, and I've decided to
take the back because I figured I'm gonna protect him.
And I got his back. I said, my god, what
am I gonna do something? Decided to jump on my chad,

(52:29):
where which direction to do? Out? What does something jump
on me? And Jet is gunning it. He's gunning it hard.
Just I got a gun it too, But also not
get in his dust because if I'm in his dust,
I can't see, you know. And we're just out here
in the middle of all of this, you know. And

(52:50):
I figured, Okay, maybe the noise will distract and they
won't want to, you know, fuck with us. But I
was scared. I was very, very scared. But we arrived
back at our jeep and then we rode on to
camp and had a wonderful meal, met people from all
over the world. Most of them were Americans, which was
really surprising. And then we left. We out there, any

(53:12):
chips out there, any chips, any American chips out there? No,
but I want you to go. I know you do.
We're gonna working on it, just to see that. See what.
So the first part of the trip was so Jack
to see what men can do in Paris with the
architecture and the artes. This next part is for him
to see what God does and what God can do.

(53:32):
We couldn't capture what the stars did. We only could
look at it with our eyes and be humbled by it. Yeah, magnificence,
like the true definition of creativity. Nothing better than this,
nothing from the animals, to the trees, to the all
of the things. Okay, so we leave this wonderful experience

(53:54):
just floating. We've learned so much. We'll be back after
the break. Now we're on our way to Amsterdam, and

(54:18):
we get to one of my favorite cities in the world,
and we kicked it. We walked the dogs, we ate
the waffles. We went to fabric the Luminesque, a light museum,
and that was freaking phenomenal because the light it was
what's his name, Gustav Clement his artwork, which is very,

(54:40):
very colorful. They had it everywhere. It just became all
around you. They have a black warehouse and they created
these freaking dope ass lights and the art was all
over you, everywhere you look. It was amazing. We must
have stayed in there for at least an hour, like
it was fresh. You can ride your bike everywhere. We

(55:02):
took a canal. I wanted to Heineken because Heineken is
better overseas. I gotta Heineken and I was like, you
want a beer, and he was like Mom, Mom, I'm
not I'm a child. I said, okay, and the guy says, well,
I mean we have Heineken zero. I said, what's Heineken zero?
He was like, just no alcohol in it? And I

(55:24):
was like, you got a coastin He was like I do.
So we enjoyed a beer together and we did that
multiple times, his Heineken zero or my Heineken, and we
you know, chatting it up and enjoying ourselves. We sat
on park benches. He's like, mom, I don't think or
a little cafe tables. He was like, Mom, I don't
think we could sit here. Where's the restaurant? I said, exactly,

(55:47):
their seats here because people need to sit. There'sh lollipops here,
because people get drug out there. It's like, you know
what I'm saying, Like, there's it's a conscious consideration of
what people want in this place. So we got a
chance to experience three different kinds of creativity and freedom,

(56:11):
which is hopefully, you know, the goal to inspire. He
bought some dope shit. I gave him a budget. I
watched he found his style between Parish, some good shopping
and Amsterdam too. Oh yeah, for sure, he found his thing.
He was like, this is apparently Hugo Bosses is where
the boy lives. I was like, oh, I said, you

(56:31):
know what this means, right, you know what this means?
He was like, what is it me? You good job?
You gonna shot. You gotta get that good good good.
We go into stories. He's like, oh, those sneak is mom, No,
sneak is fresh. Oh man, oh man. I looked at
the price. I was like, oh, look at your taste.
He was like, you're gonna be taking care of mama. Okay, good.

(56:55):
Ain't like it, you know? So we we did all
of those things. He had a burger in a place,
Oh my god, Cannibal royal. I think that's what it
was called Royal Cannibal. They made a veggie burger for
that child. I watched my son have his first food orgasm,

(57:15):
and I loved it. He did. He absolutely lost himself.
He didn't speak for forty five He kept looking at
it and shaking his head. He rolled his eyes back,
he closed his eyes, he looked at it again. He
bit it slow. I said, this is that's it. That's
what I'm looking And he is his mother's child. That

(57:36):
is truly. We're establishing your taste as well. Okay, I
see how you get there. So yeah, And when in
the Amsterdam, we also went to the Torture Museum and
all of this understanding when you take these trips that
this is really about the education of our kid, you
know what I mean, You want to broaden their horizons

(57:57):
and help him understand. So we got in there and
when I tell you the medieval shit that was going on,
the time it took to create some of that maniacal, vicious,
brutal shit, Jet says, Wow, So it's always been like that.
That's what I was just thinking that you were saying.

(58:18):
I was like the mind, the way these minds work.
They had a piece of wood, piece of wood, a
big triangle, right, This was the one that got me.
I think all of them were crazy and way too
freaking much, but this thing was a big triangle. And
what they do is they put the triangle way up

(58:41):
and you gotta get on a ladder to get up
on the triangle. Then they sit your raw neked ass
on the triangle and add weights to your arms and
your feet. Oh so it just hurts on your ass,
like you're just just digging into your ass. Like it
did slowly, ah, slowly. These others are so creative with

(59:04):
their torture. Wow, we saw oh they cutting titties off.
They was all kinds of crazy, extra brutal. And the
museum was only, you know, maybe about a thirty minute visit.
But we walked out of there like damn. Yo. Shout

(59:26):
outs to Jill because into all the people listening, y'all
gotta understand, Jill just broke down Amsterdam heavily without using
the word cannabis or red light district. And that is
truly beautiful because it is so much more, because it's
so much more to these cities. She didn't even say
to it. So look they had on June teenth, because

(59:47):
we were there for June Tea on Juneteenth um, they
had DJ's on every block. So in the areas where
people were eating and shopping, there were DJs. Now we
took it as it was June Teeth for us, like
this was but will know why y'all doing this, But
this is June teeth. They play Biggie and my son

(01:00:09):
and I blacked out dancing in the streets, dancing in
the street. It was so fun and so what again,
free free can I remind people as they as people
listen to your story. I want to also remind people that,
you know, not for nothing, most of us have a
friend or some type of family member that works for

(01:00:30):
the airline, and most of us tend to use those
advantages that we take to go to like Miami or California,
where I like to remind people that if you got
access to some type of flying privileges, you need to
use those internationally. Use some of this stuff that Jill
is saying, use it internationally. It's cheaper, it's cheaper, it
gives you more of a discount. I just want to
remind people that people who think they can't everybody knows

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somebody to work for the airline. Think about it. Well,
I've been traveling for forty something years and I used
my mama's flight attendant privileges. But I'm you're saying it's
a blessing. I just think it's closer than people think
it is. It's always yeah, I mean, you can you
can accumulate miles in a bunch of different ways these days,
and also to like even through your credit cards to
all kinds of different things. But you know, but then

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also too, like there's a bunch of different travel hacks
and a bunch of different websites and Instagram and TikTok
pages around being black and traveling solo and traveling with kids.
You know, there's a blog called the Traveling Child. I
believe it's called there's a black woman who travels with
her young daughters all the time and they've been everywhere together,

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traveling Noir, which is another good one, and so just
just like a lot of different you know, so it's
ways to travel and make it more affordable and travel
with kids. You know, I have six kids, even though
I wish they would give y'all your own plane sometimes,
but that's fine. I'm here. I'm here for it. I mean,

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it's a thing. In restaurant Cannonball Royale, they played a
hip hop they played hip hop in Dutch and they
got veggie burgers and it's called cannabaun. I love that.
I got a chicken sandwich and they put a chicken
wing on it, on top of it, and I was like,
why I would just what made you do that? I
don't know who's back there and whatever that mustard is,

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fuck you, fuck you for that mustard. Fuck you, but
that mustard I wanted to. I wanted to lay down
in it. I wanted to lick it off of someone
I love deep. Now I want to look it on
somebody I love dearly. I was like, that's that's that

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should be the caliber of sauce you should have or
anything from now warm. Yeah, that's a new standard. It's
definitely the standard. That's the standard of sauces from now war.
Oh what a wonderful time you got, Like food, culture, art, nature,
It's all all these really beautiful things that I kind
of incorporated, and then so much more. Like I said, well,

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it'll probably unfold over time all the things, you know
what I mean, It's gonna take me, take me some
time to do that. But we're gonna, you know what,
We're gonna end this podcast today because you know, it's
been kind of long, and we're just talking about this
one thing so much. You feel long because you've been talking,
but it's been great. Please take your time and unwrap

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these thoughts that our children deserve to have some kind
of right of passage into their maturation. We are their parents,
We are their aunts and uncles, were their grandparents. And
this was what I chose to do with the means
that I had, But it's it's fair to say that

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our kids deserve to have something really really special around
this time. And guess what you can do it. You
can do it. You can do it, Just figure out
how you want to do it. If that means a
lake house, an airbnb for a week with family and friends,
or just all your kids friends, that's dope. If it

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means a trip to New York City, you know, all
lights and all the fast pace and energy. If that's
what it means to that, oh yeah, a Broadway show.
Take your kids to a Broadway. So thank you so
much for listening to j Elba podcast, and we're going
to continue this conversation. How do you eat an elephant?

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One by? It time? Hello listeners, It's Amber the producer here.
I have a two year old son, and after listening
to this, I'm starting a travel fund. Like now, speaking
of travel funds, you do not have to be rich
to see the world, just intentional. I'm going to share

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with you in an article from Nerdwallet that outlines a
couple of the best apps for saving money. I personally
use capital to build my little travel fund and I
love it. I'm saving and I don't even realize it.
It allows you to create rules around your spending habits.
For example, like if I get a coffee, it'll automatically

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put two dollars into my savings. I'll also drop in
links to some of the incredible places Jill visited on
her trip. I hope we all get to see a
zebra soon. Hi. If you have comments on something we

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said in this episode, call eight six sis. Hey Jill,
if you want to add to this conversation, that's eight
six SIGs four three nine five four five five. Don't
forget to tell us your name and the episode you're
referring to. You might just hear your message on a
future episode. Thank you for listening to Jail Scott Presents

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