BEST OF OCTOBER | Allen Iverson & Common's Fat Joe stories, Mobb Deep taking Jada & Styles P's track, 50 Cent's debut & "I miss my Uncle George" - Joe and Jada

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Come on, don't go there. Now go there, because if
we go there, you must I'm gonna have to say
fifty second, get Richard dot Trump. We turned it up
real quick, jeez unit. We could get the drama Poppa Nick.
That probably might be arguing to be one of the
best debuts.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's like up there with Snoop fifty Sugars, up there
with with Doggy Style.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
If you ask me for the East Coast, for the
World coast. They had the same kind of effect as
Doggy Style. Man, that shit was everywhere when Nick came out,
some nigga shit is semi everywhere.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Both of them.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Shits was everywhere every way you could think of white
people everywhere, every commerce, you every spring bake Eavy, you
open your door, your window, you saw that ship Richard,
I try and Doggy Style.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Imagine you got beef for them shortly after that, and
they playing that ship. It was beating up every DJ
allegedly did not play the shout. The beef was beef.
The niggas at beef with fifty. It was at to
get Richard. I try for the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It worked bad, No, no, really bad. It was still
the residue. It was the other album Man Biggie Bank.
It was down there, cool door for a little not
a lot on the little enough enough. Yeah, that was
a different force field that we don't play.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
That we don't have out that wast and when you
create music, fifty cent was giving you like three songs
in one song, three different hit it was it's it's crazy, bro.
That album could have really been three albums, four olbls.
The way he was doing all that shit. Ah to unit,

(02:04):
we don't play around. He was like, yo, it was
too easy for I don't know what kind of zone
he was in, but everything was too easy for me.
At the bars he had the beats, he felt like
my back was killing shit. It's a difference. There's a

(02:26):
difference between street park bars. At your leisure, you can
have a nice pop you come down. When we see
him in the videos in the street part, you can
jump out and have a coconut. It's different when you
in jail doing bars in the bars, just what they
did do him. He was trying to like to beat

(02:47):
with them, and then we ain't doing like him. Don't
do that two times. You ain't doing bars like Jada
Kiss get at it. Yeah, man, the nigga doing well.
He going up like this ship doing all type of
shit you ain't doing and all that gone. Don't stop. Please,
just because you did jail time don't mean you know
how to do that. They don't know how you pedal

(03:09):
the bike. I'm not don't do that. Jay Z.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Reasonable doubt, crazy, basy, crazy shit crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
He taught me right because I was a street dude. Man,
I was a street dude, but I didn't really so
much really get into like the business down drug dealer
ship to like my second album, the first album was
I Stick You Up. I smacked you up, you know,

(03:37):
all that type of shit. But that Reasonable Doubt showed
me you could talk like like I could real my live,
my real life music. I'm listening to this ship, and
I felt like it was my life. I felt like, Yo,
you could rap about your life and music. So in videos,
I'm wearing the Army fatigues, but I'm going to my

(03:58):
man's party with the god blue suit on, with the
gators with this this this, Now we can rap about
it and put it in the video and do that.
I felt like reason it moved out did that for me.
And I remember driving back and forth from New York
to Miami just playing that one album back to back
to back to back. Uh, that's another one right after Illmatic.

(04:23):
That kind of changed my life to where it was like,
all right, if you're gonna wrap this where you need
to be, you need to talk more about your life,
you need to talk that shit, you need to die
that That pushed me more towards me being the down Cardagina.
Like publicly, I was already the don carda Gina behind
the scene, but publicly it said you can do this.

(04:46):
And I don't know what the fuck onyx first album
was with them two they changed Fat Joe's whole life.
Because I just pick a buck dad one shot. I
was like, what the fuck? God, Onyx onsung heroes. Some
of the greatest music I ever heard was Onyx. Sticky

(05:10):
just sent me so I feel not all.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Lats right now twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
He sent me saying, are you listening to the meat? Sticky?
Just send me a song that's crazy? Last week crazy?
Who had to pick beats? The beat is crazy? They
knew how to pick beats.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
They had some meant one of them, Onyx. I think
it's the second one. The beats on the second Onyx
album is.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Obviously some of the best. Trying to revisit those ship's grave. Yo, huh,
fraid Joe. Nobody right fat Joe Robbins, I seen you
and my brother. I love you. I'll see you on
the video on the he said this, he said, you know,
Joe got ghostwriters, this and that. Yo, you're delusional. Nobody

(06:02):
could write my life, write my rhymes, nothing like that.
And I love you, Frajoe. Fraje's a good guy. I've
just picked you up on another level by seeing you.
The only person in history on a video talking about Yeah, Joe,
you know Joe got please, brother got me fucked up
thirty seven years of doing this shit. I do this
in my slate, but Fradoe produced all that. Let me

(06:27):
tell you something. He's a genius. Calin them guys. Them
guys are different and they changed my life. So Frajoe,
when you look at my interviews about you, they always
say you changed my life. Documentary The game crazy is
that an album. Game is the first rapper that if

(06:48):
you didn't tell everybody says that a million times. But
if you didn't tell me he's from Compton, I would
think he's from New York. He was the first, you know,
the West coach. They got their own sound.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Heard he study in the first Compton Nigga with the
Yankish flow. Holl the Bronx, a Yankish flow. Looking up
Compton Nigga with a Yankish flow.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I repeat, still New York Yankee now and will gre
no listen. I agree with him, get a know where
you want me to go? Yonkers fucking locks of some
of the greatest rappers ever lived. I'm not disrespecting that.
Who said that? No, he said that he got a

(07:37):
Yonkers flow. Okay, I'll give you that. What I'm trying
to say is Martin Lufa had to dream dream Hey
didn't love it crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
He had new clear missiles on on both hold documents
to this day. The first one with the debut though,
is a is a smoker lo biking.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Nobody get in front the numbers. The numbers prove it
four or five million, right, I'm gonna nobody's saying ready
to die? Her niggas is over here playing around like ready,
you're not just floating all over He's floating over He
stop floating for a minute. Ready to die? Is? He

(08:20):
came in and twitched the old way niggas was rapping
back then. Who be I? Biggie Small sings the whole
entire rap game. His float, his flow is cadence to
this day. Don't make sense. He died when he was
like twenty six, twenty seven. He only did two years

(08:42):
of damage and in fucking phenomenal. There's not a day,
not a day in my blessed life that God has
given me that I do not hear Biggie Small song.
What he was able to do to take rap, underground
music and commercialize it changed my life, in every other

(09:05):
rapper's life. He was twenty four years old when he died,
a fucking baby, twenty five or twenty six or twenty four,
twenty four, Pack was twenty six, Oh it was pac
Pack was young too, twenty six, But man twenty five
and twenty four. It's crazy man to bally get in

(09:26):
the club, ain't That's some bullshit? But Biggie Small's to
this day, his flows, his cadence. You know, I help
get the song together with him and Bone Thugs in Harmony.
That's another album. Look up the first Bone Thugs in
Harmony first album. So thirty million records he's nineteen ninety nine.

(09:51):
For the love of money. Gotta get that money, baby, money, baby,
gotta get that money.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Baby.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Let me tell you some boy, I missed my uncle Georgia.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Call him George ms Buncle Georgia, Uncle Charles, George.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Ms Buncle George. At least yo George. You know yo. Listen,
now you know George. You know how you go to
the hey at meeting and be like, Hi, I'm Joe,
I'm an alcoholic. It's like, Hi, I'm fat, Joe, I'm
a fuck up, I'm a bug out. I change all

(10:41):
the words. That's why we're gonna have a problem.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Rich.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
We put it back Rich toward back to. You can't
even memorize my own rocks, so imagine memorizing your rhyme
just somebody else when I fuck everybody ship up. But
I got that bone and Biggie done. Biggie hit me up,
said Joe, I want to rock with your man's. I
know that your man's be on the same label. I'm
hanging out with them every day. Then he had a

(11:07):
relationship with Bob. I had to really really convince them,
and I know to this day they're happy. I convinced
them and Steve Lobell brought them to the studio. The
rest is history with that bone in Biggie Biggie bone it,
and nobody in New York was thinking about m in
danger us ain't too miny can bang with us?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Sing up? We know, ain't with us?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
And Torios so co be with you know who this
Nobody was thinking about that flow at that time. Well
he did it. It was like, you know, big with
somebody that is like you. I mean, damn man, we
got a big this thing right over here. Yeah, something

(11:49):
saluted man. Biggie was like you in the very way
of you never said a whack verse. So every time
Biggie kul ryme on one twelve he could rhyme on
fucking a girl's TLC shit whatever, ain't not anything that
we would listen to him. We would listen to the
new verse and be like, damn, Biggie did it again.

(12:11):
He was super nice. He did this and this and that.
It was crazy. You know what I'm saying, b I
g that ready to die. That ship to this day
is one of my favorite uh you know what I mean.
For the slaves since for the same and the two
yo Biggie, I have my homies, total bust of shit
every record. It wasn't just total. I don't know if

(12:33):
it was a fan, but as a rapper, every verse,
similar to you, every verse Biggie ever spit, we would
analyze it immediately be like, yo, he did this song
with total you know everything. You'd be like, damn body
that ship again. It's not easy to body every single verse.

(12:57):
You know, Jadi Kish, you know really good at that.
You know what I'm saying here. We be listening for
every verse like, oh shit, Jennie gonna spit that ship
right now? Who else you put in that in that
category of every verse they have a spit you would
listen to it like, oh shit, he about to spit

(13:18):
that ship.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Huh, Black thought back, thought it's superiorly nice.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
We all agree. Recipece DiAngelo the man was Cock Diesel.
I've been fat my whole life. I'm keeping it a buck. No, No,
I'm just saying to you, it's like, Yo, I gotta
appreciate every day. I'm at the point where when I
wake up in the morning, I peak to see the

(13:48):
sun and be like.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Oh god, yo, I'm a fan of this show. Cock
Diesel was one of them. We can't say that no more.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Cock Diesel and you and you love yo, you love that,
you love it so much.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Paul's you too.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
This show is like fucking Eddie Murphy, Beverly Hills cop.
It's one of them, sister with my partner ships on
me every day. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Now, you got people said Jad's Kiss. Don't even believe them.
That's why he throws the face. He throws like, you
got a little ship going on out there were You're
giving the suckers some content, you know what I mean?
Because we got blood Well you do another one. We

(14:38):
got bloodsuckers. They they whole ship is based off what
we talking about. And so that's how I know how
we driving the culture is when you got other guys like, okay,
what Jady Kiss says, have anything sound like to sign

(15:00):
by here. It's the same way in the podcast. Well,
I watched guys wait till a new podcasts come and
they fake think, they lit and they go on right
about what we say and they got a problem with
it or they agree or they whatever. Is so we're
giving them, We're feeding them content, you know what I'm saying.
So it is what it is, brother, the flags. It's okay.

(15:24):
You know, I know what I'm doing. I'm into getting money.
We know a whole lot of money. I'm not even
gonna lie to you guys. And so we in this
podcast game. Motherfucker came out of jail Favo for him
and said, no, save the records, hit maker, I'm a
stream streaming to the podcast. No, no, I'm not saying that,
but he said they asked him. He came out of jail.

(15:46):
I don't know if you've seen that little video clip
and they say you're.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Going the studio.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
No, I'm streaming. I'm streaming. There gotta be a reason.
That's where the bags at. The podcast, the streaming, that's
where the bags at. So you see me in it.
You may laugh, and I'm here to entertain you. I
tell you we provide a service. But Jo laughs. That
Glizzy Talk is gonna turn into so many m's and

(16:12):
I'm gonna say thank you for loving the Glizzy Talk.
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Joe gonna be the spokesperson for Oscar Mayer like I
will to check you, yo.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
But I'm true. I'm listen, bro, I'm true to what
I say. You say, cap I went to the Yankee
game the all the day. We're gizzy. The guy next
to me is eating steak lobster crab. You know the Yankees.
They got some ship. They got like a club. You've
been in there, right, steak lost or this this this,

(16:52):
I'm Glizzy Mania, little Mustard. I don't give a fuck,
little little Mustard. Were going to the awards later, my
wife trying to cook me all type of ship when
we out of Yes, a man, just give me a
couple of goodseas, man, I'd be all right. Then we'll
go to awards show. Maybe we eat something over there.

(17:13):
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Is a nostalgic, like what is it with the I
don't even want to say that.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
R about I'm not phobicines start stay the way hold
on that is yo, hop out. I'm not phobic. You know.
I'm cool with some gay guys, just like really Jay
Okay at L's Finest and I'm in the Essence Fest.
I don't know no better. I'm in the golf cart.
I see my man, Miss Lawrence. I'm like, yo, Lawrence,

(17:40):
I jump. These guys are like, you know, they holding
up the flag. In another level, his friends are looking
like Yo's fat Jo the gangster rapper jumping off the
I don't give a fuck. If you my brother and
I love you.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
I don't give a fuck for sure, So.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm jumping off the cart Yo, Lawrence, what's up? Yeah, y'all.
I don't get a fuck if I say, Glizzy, I
know who I am as a man, I don't. I
don't care about none of that ship. None of that
ship bothered me. Man. Certain ship just don't sound right though,
Like I feel you, like.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
I know you older the Stiggers say, I'm dene with
the Paul's Game, the Paul's Police and all the other ship.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
But like that, that certain stuff don't sound right.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Certain ship sounds crazy, sounds unbelieve you see the flags
stay out here, out we here, Man, were here to
talk about the new docu series. We'll tell us about it.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Man.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
Look, I said it last night at the at the premiere.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
The way I.

Speaker 7 (18:42):
Describe it, it's a confirmation to the world, uh hm,
that the devil is a sucker, you know what I mean?
And he can't fuck with me. Fucking right, bro, He's
a liar, he's a he's a whimp, he's a shrimp, right,

(19:05):
he's a peon.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know what I mean. He's a he's a manipulator.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
He prayed on the week, he prayed on the people
that don't believe in God.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
He's just He's just a sucker. And my journey proves that.
The ups and downs in my life, the turbulent times,
the times where you know you you fall down and
then you believe in him so much he enables you
to get back up, brush yourself off, keep on going.

(19:37):
My mom told me eight years old, I could be
whatever I wanted to be in life, and I actually
believed her, you know what I mean. All those times
my friends Instilled Garden, you know, used to tease me, Chuck,
you know, saying he going to the NBA. You know, nigga,
don't nobody make it in the NBA from here, you
know what I mean? You hit this nigga took this line.

(19:59):
You know, I mean, come on, Chuck, you know what
I mean, he ain't making it. Come back in the
crib and crying and all that. Mam, they said I
can't do it. Whatever she said, you can do whatever
you want to do. From that moment, at eight years old,
I knew that I would be here right now today
because of those words that came from her.

Speaker 1 (20:16):

Speaker 7 (20:17):
Then, navigating through this life, all the things I've been through,
all the turbulent shit, the ups and downs, you know
what I mean. My grandma told me before I got sentence.
The day they sent me to jail, I was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
When I was eight years old.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
They waited your turn eighteen to try me as an
adult eighteen years old. And that morning, I said, no,
why are they doing this to me? If they know
that I didn't do what they accused me of doing.
Why is this happening to me?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
You know?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Why is God letting this happen? And she said, son,
don't you ever question God? And I never have.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
I mean, from that point on, I never questioned God
anything that happens going in my life.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
You know what I mean. I've been through a lot
in my life. You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
I've been through you know, like you talked about Rob Bugie.
You know, different friends of mine, true, you know what
I mean, a lot of guys that I love, you
know what I mean, a lot of people in my
life and my family that passed away. You know, different
things happening in my career, you know, even getting to
a point where my money was funny, you know, the
lowest part of my life with getting divorced, you know

(21:22):
what I mean, from a girl.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I've been with my old life that man bless you
at to Lois, you know what I mean, I know everything,
and it's like whenever think it's over, you get a
miracle check jump.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
Back like yo, never questioning them though, you know what
I mean, And it's a gift. It's a gift, crack,
you know what I mean. This documentary is a gift
to that and and everybody like you know they do it.
It's so cliche when we always talk about, you know,
us as entertainers, athletes or whatever, that we're only supposed

(21:54):
to be role models to kids.

Speaker 4 (21:56):

Speaker 7 (21:57):
We inspire everybody, all ages, you know what I mean,
wee we inspire them, you know what I mean, We
help them believe.

Speaker 4 (22:04):

Speaker 1 (22:04):
They live, you know through us and believe through us.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
People look at it if chuck and make it, I
know I can. And that's the message. That's the gift
to show you everything that I went through. You know
throughout my life and being an open book. You know
what I mean, a lot of motherfuckers just be so
embarrassed about things that they went through in their life,
the ups and downs and the mistakes that they made.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I ain't that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (22:29):
My girl tell me all the time, you always let
motherfuckers stress you out, and you know you care so
much about people.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Why do you do that? And that's not a gift
that I have. I don't know how. I try my
hardest to not let it stress me out.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Whatever.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
I'm just like that on a big hearted people apart person,
and I love who I love, you know what I mean.
But my gift, a gift that I do have, is
that I am an open book. I don't mind, you know,
telling you the mistakes that I make. I tell my
kids all the time. You know, why do you have
to learn the hallway?

Speaker 4 (22:58):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (22:59):
And I already did it, you know what I mean?
Why can't you listen to what I'm telling you? I
love you, I want you to do what's right. I
don't want you to go through the shit that I
went through. And I made this big ass uproar like
last night before last one was it to night before
last we did Atlanta the book tour, and Tip told
me he said he moderated my joint and he was like, yo, man,

(23:22):
your homeboys did a number on you. You know, but
he was saying it, you know, he was saying it
like all you talk about is the pain and the
hurt that you have from the dudes that you grew
up with, like these motherfuckers, like I was the one
that took that ass whipping, would bringing your aunt's rage.
And you remember, I was the first one that took
everybody from my hood with me.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
You know what I mean to show them the world
and it ain't none of here. Something controvers you all
the time, ain't ain't none of me. I say you
the closest thing to Tupac because you're the only person
I ever seen play basketball and have a fucking after
party in every city where the realest guys, these guys
ain't no fucking chumps, got the AI, the Alan Lson

(24:07):
jerseys on the whole fucking party every night. Guys that
won't give it up to somebody, Guys that ain't in
the business of being suckers. They was wearing the AI
jerseys and I was like, yo, I always tell everybody
I say, Yo, that was the closest thing I've seen.
The truth box you call the love and the pure
respect from every gangster in every hood that you have

(24:31):
always had.

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Speaker 1 (26:13):
In Virginia. Yeah, I wouldn't want to remember. I got
too many stories with you that we will chill on. Yeah,
I know, I know. Don't listen to his stories. You
listen to my stories. They won't even That's why one
you want it. That's why I say. That's why I
tell you know we got beat up in bad news.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Man, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Hey, and you know Ross started those ship, so he
starts something happened you remember you admitting this something happened.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
Yeah, you say I got you beat up? He got
hit in the chest with a Heineken bob.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
What they threw about it? He said, I got him
beat us.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
He got somebody threw a hoeget bottom and hit him
in the chest.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Chest. Yeah, I never said I never said that. Didn't that.
But he said, he said, I gotta beat up to
the chest. Did nothing to you, He said, I got him.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Beat up, beat up.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Well, first of all, Rock snuffed it through. Ro Rod
jumped in the crowd after the dude. Right, we are
his birthday part. You the hottest ship going on out there, right,
I don't understand the ship. One man, we over there,
we're like, yo, we were AI bad news. The next
thing they throw with so many No, man, you was rapped.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
You was you was performing, You was performing, and it
was a It was a motherfucker in the stands that
wanted to he wanted to mic and Rob was telling
the dude chill. And then after he started telling him chill,
then the dude was fuck y'all.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
And then Rogers. What I do know is we had
just got ro They threw they threw so many glasses
of Jack. Daniel got hit by that was gonna steal me.
You got hit behind them bottle. See whenever people talk
about him, Cavin on the joint.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
See, I know him personally, so I know I've never
known him as a liar, you know what I mean?
And he and and what people got to understand.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Take the flags back.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
Listen, yeah yeah, listen, but but listen, I'm listening only
only thing like the stories that you know where I
wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (28:14):

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I can't confirm him, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (28:17):
All I can I can speak on the person that's
telling the story, so I know he don't He don't lie.
He ain't never lied to me. So when he's telling
my stories, that's what I go off. So he get
him ninety nine point nine percent, right, yeah here, you
know what I mean, got our ass beat man.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
That didn't happen. Everything everything, And so if you if
if he calls hit by the motto, I asked what
he got his ass? Well, we played seventy games of Spade,
for sure, and we was in there for hours and
we were so hyped to go to this point. I
don't know what the fuck happened. I just shows you
what happened because when we pull up, everybody chasing us.

(28:53):
Now he got the drop tops out there, so it's
like ali boom bay yeate everybody. Yo yo that year,
you know, because you remember what you told to me
in front of my uncle Stevie house.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
All that day we was it. Yeah, I ain't gonna
throw no crag on him.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Look, I'm telling you what.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
Look if you think about all the ship that he's
done in his life and the place he's been in,
the events he's been through and like and all the
ship that go on in it a motherfucker like his life, man,
you cannot be.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Totally accurate on everything. Ship get blurry. And then we well,
I know, I drunk a lot.

Speaker 4 (29:31):

Speaker 1 (29:32):
But I remember in front of.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
My uncle house, in front of Uncle Stevie house, I
had the blue bent leez or drop top joint and
we were sitting down in front of the joint and
he was like, yo, Chuck, I'm gonna have one of
these one day, you know what I mean. And the
first I don't know what was your first color was
at the siling sky blue sky blue sky blue joint.

(29:54):
And I remember, I don't know, I don't know, I
know It was the video because you know usually in thevideos,
you know, cause I had when I was in Atlanta,
I had everybody using my cars videos.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
But I remember seeing you in it.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
It was it was something they was doing and he
was driving the joint, and man, I was watching it
on TV, and it fucked me up, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
It felt so damn good because I was like, yo,
like I was a part of that.

Speaker 7 (30:21):
Like he told me that he was gonna get in
one of them joints, and you had the joint.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Man, you got the joint, you know. I got the
picture with him. He was like fat Joe, this guy
you remember, he was big Jada kiss. He was a
little joke like fat. She was a little plumpy. I
got the fucking picture, Ja, I got the fucking pitch.
You could do pull ups now with one finger and
all that shit, but back then you was eating that
fried chicken. Boy. That boy boy fucking some sit up.

(30:48):
I got that picture. He get mad. I post that
ship like every three months for no reason. Be like
me and Jada, Man, why are you posting that ship? Joe?

Speaker 7 (30:57):
I love when you posted man, let me do you
remember that night though you took no telling when you
took me we couldn't find a hotel.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
You know, when you told that story, let me Yo
told me the right way. Yes you did, but let
me I don't know about it. I don't think I
had the game the next day though, yes you did.
We will sit listen. First of all, the owner hate me.
What's his name, all Pat Croche. He thought I'm smoking

(31:25):
and drinking with you, and this and this and that.
He told me. One day we went to some Adams
Samuler window and he said, fat Joe man, I'm so
proud of you. Man, how you he said. I used
to tell him all the time. I didn't want you
with Chuck. I thought you was a bad guy. Ceo,
I was the nicest guy there. What the fuck are
you talking about? So he comes up, he got a
game like Saturday, and he come to Jimmy's cafe with us.

(31:48):
He got the drop top. We said, I was I
was not cked, all right, you wasn't driving, So I
drove drunk.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
I never did.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Okay, he never drove.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I used to be drunk as a motherfucker, say something like.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
We was tore down Bubba Chuck at the game the
next day. But I mean like not regular, like smad,
like walking sideways and said, my man, I threw up.
I ain't never threw up. I never threw up drinking. Yeah,
I remember you telling the story. I ain't never threw
up drinking. We pull up in my man's house in

(32:22):
the bummiest area of the Bronx's the only place to go.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Do you remember him?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Do you?

Speaker 8 (32:27):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
You still slept on Yes, we slept on clothes. His
house is so bummy that they got clothes all on
the fucking You're still cool, of course he's family. When
you want me, say, I'm talking to your true story.
We spend the night. He got a game against the Knicks.
The next day, I wake up, He's gone already. So
I wake up, say tell in the morning, Chuck is

(32:50):
gone already. I don't know how he did it. So
I go to the Knicks. Man, if I'm keeping it
a buck with you, we drank so much I had
diarrhea in the next day, Like, I was fucked up,
and Jimmy's too. Jimmy, I was too. That shit was crazy.
And I go to the game. I'm fucked up. So
I go to the game and I purposely I'm not courtsided.

(33:12):
I'm like tenth row, like hiding, and I'm looking at Yallas.
He dropped like forty one. He was in they and
the Joe buttons stopped. You gotta stop.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
You think about it, though, think about it. How old
was I that recovery time was nothing?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
They gave us a sign. I don't know who's controlling
your time, but hold up. So he only got five minutes. Mama,
come over here. I want you to sit on the couch.
Make this shit legend deviy. You know what I'm saying,
said sit damn Mama. You know we love you. How

(33:47):
proud are you to be Bubba Chuck's moms and his
journey in life, you know, with Bubba Chuck and all
the success and how you see him come around as
a man. It's important because you're the first mother athletes
mother that we all fell in love with. We love
you braiding his hand in the middle of the court,
and you gotta stop you with that. That's not me.

(34:10):
I braided his hair from the first I braided.

Speaker 9 (34:14):
I braided his hair from all the when he first
wanted his hair braided. Now I did breik his hair,
but his hair was coming loose in the back, and
he was worried about his hair. You know, he liked
to be fly. He was worried about his hair coming
to loose. So, you know, my sister called me and
she was like, and he keeps on telling me and

(34:34):
looking at me, and I don't know how to breathe here.
And I was like, but all you gotta do is
just braid his hair. You're braiding just the back of it.
And so when I got there, I saw my son.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
That cap running is rubbing off on it. If it
is cap is rubbing off, Mommy got yeah, because mommy
got bout over there. Mommy got his flat, Mommy got
his story off.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I gotta be authentic. You taught me to be that way.
But you know what I mean, it didn't go down.
It didn't go down. And then he over there called him, now,
I'm bubba chuck. Why are you talking to mommy?

Speaker 8 (35:08):
Now?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Now I go to my first I was Ai now
turned in the bubba chuck.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
When he talking to mommy. But it didn't it ain't.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
It ain't happened like that. Well you you you, I
got my version, you got your yeah. Okay, So all
of a sudden. You know, you know your son Ai.
You know my moms ain't here, Man, so we want
to hear it. You know, you know how proud are
you of your son Man in all his accomplishments and
how he inspired generations and people.

Speaker 9 (35:35):
First of all, I was proud of him from the
first day I saw him, you know, because back then, yeah,
back then, back then when you have a baby, and
I was so young, like he said, so you know,
I had to have him Sinceirian bird and I was sleep.

(35:56):
So when I came, when I woke up in recovery,
and he brought me to it, brought him to me,
and I was like, he's so light, and you know
what I'm saying. But when he opened his eyes and
he looked at me, and I saw my eyes looking
back at me, I said, oh, yeah, that's my babe,
you know. And I checked everything on him. I checked
everything on him. But what really blew my mind is,

(36:16):
first of all, I got kicked off the basketball team
because I got pregnant with him.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
But what blew my mind was his hands and his arms.
His arms was past his kneecap when.

Speaker 9 (36:26):
I laid him out like that, they were wave past
his kneecap, and I was like, I got a baller,
and I was happy. I was happy, and so I
told my family, I told my whole family. I was like,
you know, I got a baller. So everybody was like
looking at me, like I was simple whatever. But the
thing is, from that point on, he came in my
life and he was the perfect child. He was not

(36:50):
hard headed. He would listen to everything I said, and
he loved the daylights out of me. And at that
point I needed love because of the fact that my
mom had died at twenty nine years old male practice.
But anyways, the Irish said center to Virginia and they
that's the best thing they could have done for me.
And when I had him, when I was carrying him,

(37:13):
I was pregnant playing ball in the Heart for Connecticut,
and I went from there to Bethel High School playing
ball and he had a favorite cheer and his cheer okay, yeah,
it was a favorite.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Cheer, and it used to be no, no, it used
to be everybody.

Speaker 9 (37:34):
Be on the court and we were we're halftime, and
then they had everybody else seeing go Breugh his goal
and everybody will shut up and he'll say, shake that thing.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Show.

Speaker 9 (37:50):
So that's my story. But fist proud. I want to
tell you something that he said to me this year.
I said, Bubba, I said, you know, I am so
proud of you. I said, you just make me so proud.
I'm proud of you. I just wanted to express that
to him so he'll know it from my all right, Yeah,
and he said I'm not finished. He said, I'm not

(38:12):
finished making you.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Bro, And that's what he's been doing. But that being said,
this ain't that.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
That ain't there.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's cracking kiss makes some noise from our guests. Hey,
I am mama love.

Speaker 10 (38:41):
It's two moments in my life, in my career that
I can cite you for and just want to say
thank you.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Brother.

Speaker 10 (38:46):
It's like you don't know what it meant to me.
One was you putting me in the video in your
video the.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Y Man, like you know, pictures come out like once
it's in the pictures, like it's gonna be here forever.
I love that.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Man.

Speaker 10 (39:03):
We was kids in the arm but you pulled up
to the Bronx and I missed some note that meant something.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Because let him get in, you know, coming from Chicago, man.

Speaker 10 (39:13):
One of the things we wanted was just to be
heard by New York and for you to be like yo,
even though he was on the same label.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
If you if you thought I was on some weak ship,
you've been like, uh, beloved and all for love it.

Speaker 10 (39:33):
I'm gonna tell you sh second one, well, the second
one we didn't talked about a lot. Man, you practically
saved my life. Get there on the fla, yo, Yo,
that man really saved my life. Like I was on

(39:56):
the West Coast with my guy, one of my guys.
I through one of my close homies, but he was
my guy, and he just wasn't happy with the whole situation,
the whole ice q mac tan beef that we had
told him we had squashed it, were doing it.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
We were sitting there doing a commercial.

Speaker 10 (40:11):
This was the most money I was getting paid ever
for something at that point in time, right, So we
at peace were like, Yo, things is good.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Everybody was like God, just be from Chicago. We just
couldn't hold it.

Speaker 10 (40:22):
He couldn't hold it, so he started ruffling shit, and man,
it just got a little heated.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
And I want to say, Dad, it's not because Fat
Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally begged for your life.
I literally got in the middle, was like, please, he's
my friend, he's my brother, you know he you know,
some people take things personal. And they finally saw him
and he was on there, saw you, and they was

(40:50):
talking crazy and I was like, no way, this guy,
I said, this is literally my brother. And I was
begging them because it was just serious ones. I was like, please,
this is my brother, Joe. You know we've been we've
been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't.

(41:12):
I just couldn't do I just see and basically I
stood in the middle like please, guys, like I cannot
do it.

Speaker 10 (41:19):
But they they set up it was over after that day,
right after that day. But you settled that like like
I'm like, man, we are on we in California. Don't
start nothing my homie already because they already, like you said,
they already wanted to piece on me no matter what.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Because so my guy out there, he just he's just
going off.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Anyway.

Speaker 10 (41:40):
I knew Joe. I ain't even hit it, but I
ain't know everything he did. But oh no he did.
I knew it was him.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
They said, Yo, this can't happen. And because he had
a you know relation, super relations. Still my brother and yeah,
shout out to my family. Brother Wood family was good.

Speaker 10 (41:58):
That's when Fat Joe the gangster, I was like this,
this is because he's straight up, was like, he can't
do that to my man. It was like like one
of the movies was talking about good family. Hey once again,
I begged him. I was in there, mercy and I
was just like, please, this is my brother, this is
my family. I did that one time for Rich playing

(42:21):
my best friend. One time they was about to do
it and not saying rich and I mean real deal.
Well he was getting into it with a seven headed
monster guy who who just kills he's in jail for
too many bodies.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
And I had to jump in the middle and be
like yo, yo, yo, I can't. It's like yo, fat boy,
get out the way. I was like, oh no, I can't.
This is my family. I can't. I knew what it meant.
They real deal and this other guy's you know, Jeffrey Donald,
and I'm and I'm a monster, and I'm sitting there like, yo, listen,

(42:56):
please let me get in. I said, no, knock him,
dead head, knock him that y'all had he yet up there.
But they go, but they go. The man go because
the first argument I ever had with him, Right, he
goes the next day to rich and they had blocked
on Cyphus and says, if Joe got in the middle,

(43:16):
that means you're good guys. Let's become friends. And they
wound up being best friends. My man is still in
jail thirty seven years. But he went the next day.
He took it on himself, as said, if fat Joe
threw himself in the middle trying to squash it, these
guys gotta be good guys. And it was all over,
you know, staring at each other in the club and

(43:37):
a couple of girls. And you know, these guys they
kill each other over girls. These gangsters. Man, a lot
of gangsters in jail killing over girls. I'm telling you
I had a guy. This guy was a meaning. He's
still in jail too, forty years, right. He was mean,
looking at scared straight. No, No, because no, A lot

(43:59):
of wars have over women, most of them.

Speaker 8 (44:02):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
But listen, this guy. All I'm gonna say to you
is this was a mass murder. He's still in jail
forty years. He would come to the club and he go,
he's Puerto Rican. He'd be like I, and I'd be
like Yo, said I the nanna he's talking bout his
His wife was bad as ship to her she was
fucking dudes like she was loose. So he come on then, Nah,

(44:29):
you know Jimbo from the barber shop. Oh yeah, he
was with the net with everybody. If it's ten, God,
not Jimbo. He didn't yes with the net net. Jimbo
won't be away the two more days like he would
come all of one time. I argue with the niggas
like a and I said, no, I don't want to

(44:50):
hear that ship. You're a fucking liar. She's the most
decent girl in the world. She didn't do it. Yes,
and everybody knew what that somebody was disappearing over then
then now, no, I know maniacs like that man, But
you know, common man, you're the beloved of ball beloved.
Let's keep it peace. I said, you know what I said,

(45:16):
I didn't see what's that like spoken sage or something.
It was posted, but that us for that story.

Speaker 10 (45:24):
It's similar to say it's Plasanto, it's Palisanto. You know
it come from the trees down in chili, bringing the good.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Energy, bringing a good energy, motive energy we gotta go to.
I used to love him. Okay, okay, you knew that
was like a lean back when when you finished that bitch,
you was like, oh, I knocked this shit out, though, Paul, Like,
what was making I used to love it? Where did
that come from? What was the exception of that idea?

(45:51):
Because to this day, I mean, we did it in
so many big hell did the bonics to this. Everybody
did some version of it. But that was like a
pit of me.

Speaker 10 (46:03):
Man, whenever God dropped that idea into my spirit, bro
I was, I was geek. I just know no idea
made this dope beat. He was dopey except George shoutout
killed yo. I was sitting at home. My homies had
just left the crib and I was staying with my

(46:23):
guy son. We had we had a crib together like
an apartment, and I was sitting up. It was two
in the morning. I just had that beat playing. I
was like, man, what if I made hip hop or woman?
And then I just started writing and used to take me.
I don't know how for y'all, but sometimes I'll be
taking I'll be taking a wilder right attack in the days,
the way back in the day, it used to be
like you need.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Busting you but Yo, Rain come up with some show.
That one started coming to me.

Speaker 10 (46:51):
And then I started, you know, just understanding the metaphor
not understanding, but just getting into the metaphor of it
and taking it through the through the whole ride, and.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
I was like, I ain't gonna fuck. I was.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I did feel like this is this is something this
way through you was like, yo, this is some ship
right like that shit start calling you like yo, yo.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Man. I was like yo.

Speaker 10 (47:13):
And then by the time I got to the third
verse and it was like summon it up and got
to who I'm talking about, y'arless hip hop? I was like, man,
I knew that it could have something, It could hit
somebody because when I was in that studio landed my
guy right sound was he was. He was like I
could see him through the booth. I was sitting there
rapping and uh, you know we're young, so he like,

(47:36):
you're going out girl?

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Yeah? He like yo, He like why are you doing
this love song? Even want to?

Speaker 10 (47:40):
You know?

Speaker 4 (47:41):
He like doing a love song like this.

Speaker 10 (47:43):
As soon as I said, won't talk about y'allis hip
hop and nib his.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Head, Like, Oh, you want to know what's crazy is
when you came in here, I know how much you
love ill Matic, and so we're doing some ell Matic
and similar. I used to love her to ill mad.
It is over the years, every time I heard I
used to Love, I picked up something new and I

(48:08):
learned something new, and I was just like, Yo, this
shit gets better. You know, like ill manner, you can
still like right now we all could have wrapped and
didn't know the word the right word right quarter Body
halfway Houston? What the fuck he meant with quarter body
got for Houston, head for Houston, head for Houston, called
the body quarter Body had for Euston. Yeah, you know

(48:32):
it's like so you could keep like That's how the
Lover was for me. Like every time I heard it,
I would hear something new and something new and be like,
oh ship that shit crazy?

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yo?

Speaker 10 (48:43):
What what?

Speaker 4 (48:44):
What hit me? Too?

Speaker 10 (48:45):
Was like, man, that was the first time I really
started like I remember, you know, back back in those days,
you would have like people give you a quote for
your album. Biggie gave me a quote and like I
was like, damn, I'm actually getting respect from, you know,
more and more people. But then that movie Brown Sugar
came out and brown Sugar was based on I Used

(49:05):
to love Her?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
And wow do that it was based on I used
to love her? That writer shout out to him, Michael Elliott.

Speaker 10 (49:12):
He had come to me to write something, like write
some movie stuff with him, but I was like a
little bit, you know, I didn't know how to do that.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
We're just moving, you know, I'm just so he ended
up writing Brown Sugar. Boom.

Speaker 10 (49:25):
Then me and Erica, me and Erka Badu did a
song for Brown Sugar, which was Loving My Life based
on I Used to love Her.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
You was.

Speaker 10 (49:36):
So, I was like it was it was one of
those things that kept evolving in a way, like that song,
and it was just yeah, see that keeps growing.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
And you know what's crazy is being that you're saying that.
I'm just you know, I was supposed to be in
the movie Chef. I was supposed to be people's once.
You know, the actor is a big, big yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
y'all Rest in peace. John Singleton. He was coming to

(50:05):
Jimmy's Bronze Cafe every Friday trying to convince me to
be in chaft, but we was too much on that
party like a rock star. We was like give it.
We ain't give a fuck with young rich rat niggas,
big punt double plat. We don't give them fuck. He's
John Singleton was in the trenches. He was with me

(50:26):
in Washington Heights and fucking bummy apartment house, but he
had no business being there. Like Yo, Joe, I got
this role. You could be People's because you know what's
my man? That the famous actor he played People's he's
You see how he was speaking with a Spanish site.
He ain't staying no, no no. From fact, Joe was
supposed to be people, Bro, you turn that road down,

(50:48):
dumb motherfucker. Dumb motherfucker.

Speaker 11 (50:51):
Every time I watched that movie. Was supposed to be
in Glory, all right, I believe Ah, what's something that
happened to you that you had the opportunity? And he
was like, fuck dad, I'm gonna stay in d block
with YONK this. I ain't doing that ship. But now
when you look back, you're like, damn, I should have
did that.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
One of them.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
You got somebody you gotta give up. The last thing
of Power. The last episode of power. Last season of
Raising Knan, I had to take my wife to the
Usher show.

Speaker 12 (51:26):
I saw you that that back. I couldn't get a private.
It wasn't meant to be. It was one of them
be sad or be happy. You know how big that
Raising Tailing was. Shout out one of the now the movie.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I saw you at the show that or you was
there too, Vegas. You know you go to Usher man,
he forced you to do the greatest hits like I'm
over there trying to go. All I want is two
free tickets. It turned in, it turned it costs you more,
My brother, fat show the light come like just you

(52:02):
don't stay shick and you got another word. Then it's
on another, one another, one another. I'm like ships.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Mars Is, make you do a little concert. DJ my god,
it's a fast forward. How does it feel?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
The whenevery goddamn a walk?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
And I feel good whenever I see when thank you
because I know what you stand for, what you represent,
where you come from.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
When they when they let one of us in and
you just dominate the way you've been doing me feel.

Speaker 10 (52:37):
Man, I love that because for us right So when like,
let me tell you when I'm up there. I feel
like I'm representing us because we all, we all the tribe, man, Like,
we know where we've come from, we know what we do,
We've been through it together. We ain't got to see
each other all the time to know we just we're
from another tribe, bro, we love each other. So when
I'm out there, man, I ain't gonna from when I

(52:59):
was on the Oscar stage, I felt like I was representing.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I was representing God.

Speaker 10 (53:04):
Black men, brown men, black people like hip hop su Chicago.
It was a lot that I felt like, Yo, this
is this is what I'm this is why I'm up here,
and my ancestors.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I felt all of that, and I'm like, I'm so grateful.
Did you feel that way?

Speaker 10 (53:22):
Because I'm like, man, when I see y'all doing, I
came in and say, man, I'm proud of y'all. Man,
it's just like what y'all doing, man, this is like
it offers so much to people, people who like needed,
we needed. We need to We need the fund, we
need the joy, we need the wisdom. We need to
come in like in an authentic way so to see
us us like just man, it was ninety three ninety.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Two, bro, ninety.

Speaker 10 (53:49):
Bro so to see us like finding ways and real
ways to actually impact life and culture and be doing
great things and taking care of our loved ones families
and you know, y'all you know the same way.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I feel like we all want. Now, I'm gonna tell
you crazy thing. I wrote my first ever positive song
right now. You don't remember this, you know, I'm gangst
the fat jaw smack your baby at the Christian and
I'm doing you know, I'm talking all this crazy shit.
And I made one positive song and I went to you,
I Seek the Kingdom Never Forget, and I played it

(54:24):
for you. I felt like the old Common is gonna
love this shit. It's a positive song. And I played
it for you. He was like, that's Joe, Joe, what
the rest of the album sound like? Like you wanted
that sho. I came with the Least black Man, this
Arnaul can form the million Man And he was like,
Yojoe was up with the rest of the album. I

(54:46):
was like, yeah, yeah, the album is harged. I came
to you with the positive joint like I thought, was like, yes,
no you want that Joe crack fat gangster ship. No,
but yeah, but you know, it was at the end
of the day you were showing the evolution. But sometimes
it's like, you know, we all climb.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
And grow our way. We grow in our own ways
when it's time.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I mean, for me, it's like positivity ain't gotta be like, oh, preaching. Man,
I don't like that. I don't like it.

Speaker 10 (55:17):
I don't like that in movies. I don't like it
in music. I don't like it in church. I don't
like either. Like I don't like the judgment. I don't
like it self rightous. I don't like man. We I'm
conscious now, you know, like you was doing the goodness
out there to be honest, even if you know, like
you know what I'm saying, like bringing bringing me on

(55:38):
that that in itself.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
But I feel like, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Kind of remember when you played that joy But I
what Joe, But you know what happens, you know, somebody
like carri us One who had the machine gun in
the cover and we think it's coming gain he's air
planes laying and it's overseas, people dying, politics and lying.
I'm trying not to escape. That ship was like a

(56:04):
fucking a rose blooming. I remember how the train I
had to walk man and I played that ship and
then he was like, eh, plane's flying overseas, people dying,
Poloiticisians lying, I'm trying. I was like it was like
a rose. I was like, Yo, what the fuck is this? Yo?

Speaker 13 (56:22):
Man?

Speaker 10 (56:22):
Cal rust kill us want and hip hop in itself
at that time too. Man taught me so much about
who I am as a person. This stuff I ain't no, like,
I ain't know like even what he was just talking about.
It just certain things about Africa that I all bench.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Just mean benka man, Why is that snoring?

Speaker 9 (56:42):
Yo?

Speaker 8 (56:42):
That is that?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Why is that? He was going?

Speaker 10 (56:45):
He was creating and the even to be able to
break down the books of the Bible when he was
Abraham was the father of Isaac. Isaac was the father
of Jacob. Jacob had twelve sons for real, the needs
for the children of Israel. I'm like, man, to get
us to be singing that and rapping that like man,
that dude just elevated us all man hip hop.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Being at that time teacher man.

Speaker 10 (57:10):
And he made it sound but that's don't talk about
like he made that joint sound good.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Like I had to get to that.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
I had.

Speaker 10 (57:17):
It was a point where in my in my music
and career where I felt like I was getting stuff
and I wanted to spread the word, but it was
too it was too like self rights. It was too like,
you know, you got to find a balance. Life is
a balance. So it's like, you know me growing up,
he was my hero, my idol still is.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
But christ Woman was God in the Bronx right, and
then Fat Joe Yes became the new like you know,
the dawn, We're going double platinum, we on fire. I
used to walk the streets with Karris one everybody, teach,
the teacher look at me like you know, you know,

(57:58):
we attitudes. And I asked him one day, I said, yo,
I said, yo, Chris, how come everybody comes up to
you smiling with the teach the teacher and then look
at you. He said, that's easy. I rap about positivity
and unity. You wrap around gangster shit. They gonna make
you prove you a gangster every time out here. Me

(58:18):
did just smile. I posed no threat. I was like, wow,
that ship was so deep for me at the time
where it was like yo, He's like yo, they look
at me like this is the unified. They look at
you like, yo, you still found Joe the gangster out here,
So dude, that's when we went right back to the
studio and killed some more people. That's a fact, more

(58:39):
babies at than Christian. But that's for me.

Speaker 10 (58:43):
I knew, like, okay, man, I wasn't selling a lot
of records, Joe. You know, I remember walking into Relativity
Records and it was I tell people this story, it
was it was Bone Thugs at Harmony.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Fat Joe.

Speaker 10 (58:58):
I don't know if the rough House Riders were performing
like Fat joint sould maybe twenty thousand this week, but
Bone Thugs are sold forty thousand this week. I sold
five thousand. So it's like that board let me know
like the priority of the label and what was going
to be put into my career. So I knew that, man,

(59:21):
I gotta go on my truth no matter what in
state who I am because record sales wasn't it for me,
like to be honest, like I mean, I did have
some great ones at times, but some good ones, but
overall it was like, man, my integrity of what you're saying,
like just putting positivity out there, putting creativity out there,
and putting that light out there is what to the end,

(59:44):
of the day. Some people ask me, man, why are
you still doing it? That's that's why I'm doing it. Yeah,
the passion.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Well you talk about how you don't you gotta feel
and he thow man ain't getting a lot of push back,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I thought it was a beautiful thing, man, that he.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Just coming off the biggest world tour, bringing almost damn
there billion dollars to the island of Puerto Rico, and
now OVI is giving you a chance to check him
out at the super Bowl, and now he's getting now
a bunch of hoopler.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
I don't understand it. I don't. It's damn devvy do
you damn divvy do? What's your take on that? Brother?

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Let's be clear about this. He's the number one streaming
star in the world. Somebody's listening to this man, number
one streaming star in the world. You could google that
shit if you want fel it, google it, fell it
to Tom Felons. He got a job, man, It's the

(01:00:52):
most streamed album of all time. He's number one in
the world. He made me, the whole world go to
Puerto Rico to watch him perform. He deserves the spot
The problem with America is so racist that if we're
celebrating art, we're celebrating culture, we're doing a halftime performance.

(01:01:12):
Somebody gotta perform, whether they black, white, Asian, K pop,
whatever you want to name. So at the end of
the day, Kendrick Lamar did it last year. Is he
big enough? Is he did? The ratings? Was through the roof?
Was he big enough? Is he disn't drinking this? Now
you got a guy who's Puerto Rican. By the way,
ICE cannot arrest Puerto Ricans. We're Americans, duh. So I

(01:01:37):
don't know what the fuck you on your truck? What's
your Confederate flag? Thinking? Y'oll, we're gonna lock up some Latinos. Yeah,
they all Puerto Rican the American citizens. What the fuck
are you talking about? And my problem is why does
race have to always always come into everything going, I

(01:02:00):
mean everything, and you perform it. I didn't even see that.
Right when they picked him, I said, all right, bad bunny,
he the biggest, he gonna rock.

Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
I'm Latino and I don't know all the words to
his song, but I know he's the ship and he's fired.
So my thing is, once they throw in the race ship.
I'm like, yo, what is this? Who's I hate people? Black, Latino,
white people, whoever? Who always gotta bring race into every

(01:02:31):
single thing? I just don't know why to man every
single thing since I've been born, so.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Oh no no.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
But but now with social media is at an all
time I don't know how they break this ship down
into is everything everything turns into some racial ship. Bad
Bunny's coming to entertain you if you're if you're white
and you don't know Spanish, throwing your dancing shoes and
have a hell of a time because all your friends
are gonna jump up and dads, he gonna rock that
shit like you never seen it. Fe what the Apples

(01:03:04):
talk about that? So Apple got this, So Apple presents
the halftime, got the eyepods that translate it can translated
to English feet right at time? So why you I
need that shit? They're making us buy the new phone
for this ship. Ma, everybody got an eye full fifty.
I don't know if it's me, I'm I'm look, I'm
played out. Let me stay sing when it comes to technology.

(01:03:29):
It comes to technology, I'm played out. Every time they
want a new phone to take me a month to
figure out how to take a picture of something like that. Like,
stop making these shits, man, because every time they make
it is like real, Like you got the seventeen. Hell no,
I'm going to be the last one to get it
because every time they bring up something new, I get it,
and I don't know what the fuck going on. How

(01:03:51):
to do Instagram, how to do this, how to do that?
I'm confused. You know my phone, I just got used
to it. And my ship.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Oh it's not the fifteen, it's not I used to
have the fifteen, the little bit twenty at the fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Yeah, but I really don't want no more upgrades. Na, man,
that ship whack now? One day's like a computer. You
must up me so bad. Bunny at the super Bowl,
he earned it. I hate when they try to make
a narrative like, oh, they did this on purpose to
fight Ice that that's not true. He earned it. He's
the number one streamer. What do you want me to

(01:04:26):
do if next year they bring the K pop guys,
the guys, I don't know how much I would feel
about that, But the K Pop guys, because they broke
records and all that. You would have to understand that,
you know, they the biggest in the game. The problem
is that the NFL have always had like, you know,
don't go messing with Cotton Nye, Joel Cotton Night, Joel

(01:04:46):
Cotton Night, Joel, don't go nobody. We say ship. We
must have seen Pat bennettar ten times, Joe Cotton Night,
Joel that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
You know, I used to halftime was only for the
Rolling Stone to U two, and I thought it was
there at a lifetime residency with the super Bowl, I
thought I never see a black guy the Super Bowl halftimes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I sweeping. Guess what, ever, since they put the black guys,
they've been winning Emmys every year.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Guess what.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
The rating's been up. So you know, you say what
you want. You know what I'm saying, And it's become
a thing. Every time somebody does Super Bowl. The next
week we talking about it was good, which rated it was,
you know, shout out the whole that's raight forerazz shut
the old rock nacksure getting together pulling this one off,

(01:05:40):
because shout out to the rock. I love that Bad
Bunny even did it because Bad Buddies said he wasn't
gonna tour in the United States. So I love the
fact that he said, Okay, I'm doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
My sister Marry, her bag went oh after she killed
that halftime, she was headlining Essence Fested next day this this,
I watched the bag. I know what the super Bowl
could do for you, Mary, Yesterday's right, it's not today's price. Mary.
Shit went dumb after that toward this this, that ship,

(01:06:14):
that ship went crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Wow you heard that. That's hip hop. Shout out the
hip hop man. Kendrick is the most viewed. He beat
out Michael Jackson. Mike had that spot for thirty two years.
Shout out to Kendrick for that. You tell you that
hip hop. Shout out to Kendrick. Let me tell you
what's crazy, right. You know I always complained about the planes,

(01:06:38):
even though I go across the world. But for a
long time I was the John Matt and the hip hop.
I got that they ain't a highway.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I'm telling you. He never flewent. I man of Swiss.
He never ain't no.

Speaker 14 (01:06:54):
He swist the trade. He had his own trade. Well,
I took the buses old we got the old dream.
Let me explain saying you, I never salute the man
for that. I didn't know he did a lot. I
did the bus. I go to New York and Miami
so much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
I come out on the gas station or the crack
of Battle and like, hey, Joe, like I lived down
the block fave Ville, North Calline, like I done, did
every highway in America. As somebody was asking me and
I thought about it, I said, you know, we took
We did spring Break that changed my life. Recipes Earth
God in Me and de Chante did spring Break. After

(01:07:29):
that show where they seen the Crack of My Ass,
the album went up twenty five thousand a week, like
America couldn't get enough. That's when they discovered Joey Krack.
They be on soap talk Saturday Night Live, Joe you
believe this guy, Joey Crack, the crack of his ass
shows no incredible, but the sales that's how bugget No.

(01:07:50):
It just went platinum after the American love a fat guy.
I don't know why they love a fat guy. But
the point I'm trying to make, man, is we took
the bus through Mexico. This is before we knew about
chop oning up and I was thinking about it. I
drove through the whole Mexico to get to can't con

(01:08:11):
You gotta drift through the whole. I drove through through.
I drove through forrest that had elephant crossing other thing.
You just said elephant. The sign ain't dear, it's elephant, right.
I drove through the whole thing. Right, We're on the
tall bus. It reminded me. We got stuck up seven times.

(01:08:33):
Stuck up. Do you know who robbed us? Every time?
The police? Your fucking Policeea, pull us over middle of
Mexico City. You gotta drive through the whole chill Wawa,
you drift through gym and nazz waraz the whole Mexico Right,
So they stopped me seven times. I got stuck up
by the police. The last time. I just want you

(01:08:54):
to know I'm not pussy. I don't get stuck up. No,
I'm just letting you know this is very foreign to
my DNA, to my spirit be. They keep pulling us over, yo,
one hundred dollars. They're like, they're sticking us up, like
you know, and now you gotta sit there like you
pussy and just be like, all right, it's the police whatever.
This last time we in the middle of nowhere, some

(01:09:17):
little Mexican dude walks out in the middle of the road.
He got like the army shoot on boom. His gun
is taller than him. The man got a girl with him. Now,
this girl, she looks like a working girl. That's the
nicest way to put it. She got the cheap shoes,

(01:09:37):
the shirt. She's a whore. Right, she's with him in
the middle of nowhere, right, fuck it, in the middle
of a jungle. She got the little guy like this
stops the bus. Yo, they're stopping us within the middle
of the full hord stuff, you know, the the cop whatever,

(01:09:58):
he stops us in the middle. We got this gunch
bigger namies. A little comes on the bus. While he's
coming on the bus, he's telling us one hundred dollars. Right,
we only got stuck up by cops. The girl sitting
there laughing at us in our face, like because he's

(01:10:18):
like we're pussy, Like he's really robbing us for it.
She's ah, fuck, these guys are pussy. This to this
my man. After they got off the bus, I ran
so fast, slid on my knees, slit on my knees.
I grabbed that Bible so fast, started praying God please yes,

(01:10:40):
And job was and gods were I couldn't take it,
no more like getting robbed by a little dude like
this with the girl laughing in my face. Yo, I
couldn't take that shit. I had to There was nowhere
else to go but to the Bible, the Good Book
of God. I went up in there. I started reading
that shit, like every single word, trying to God, is

(01:11:01):
this the page you want me to read? Is this
two thirty four?

Speaker 8 (01:11:04):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
That was some of the most craziest ship and I'm
I'm yo that that was a tough time. I got
one for y'all. Okay, I got I got one here.
Take these now, now, you gotta take these. You're gonna
need them. You drove the can't listen. No, we drove
the can't cool. That's easy. I'm gonna tell you this one.

(01:11:27):
You're gonna die. There's too many flags, right, So I
remember I used to go to Battery Studio. You went
to Battery Studio, right, Manhattan hatcha Yeah, twenty seventh Street. Man,
it mays fucked your back up for real? Man, you
keep stretching say that, yeah, yeah, Yo, listen. I love massages.

(01:11:52):
I love massages, right, I love massages. I get massages
on the regular. Yeah, yo, listen, shit, yo, listen, what yo?
What I did my little four months? They told me, Yo,
the guy in all Sell twenty four he's a real
masseuse when he's home and I speak up, my man,
Oh fuck you talking too. She get the fuck out
of here with that in jail house. But you can't.

(01:12:16):
I don't give a fuck who you is. Bernie Madoff
can't explain that one. He got a nigga massaging him
into jail. That shit. Oh but let me tell you something, man.
I thought about Battery Studios the other day, and that's
where I met irv Gotti one time. We both booked
the same studio because he was he was on the
other side than me, you know what I mean. They
kept telling them, don't be cool with fat Joe, don't

(01:12:39):
talk to him. But you know, when we met each other,
we realized we like brothers.

Speaker 15 (01:12:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
But Battery Studio, I had that shit rented seven days
a week. If I wasn't working there, Remedy was working there,
she wasn't working. Their plum was working there, he wasn't.
We just had that shit on lot and I loved it.
One day, I'm in the studio. Right, and Tony Sunshine
don't kill me. Bro, I'm in the studio and Tony
Tony's Sunshine walks in with big punt.

Speaker 8 (01:13:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
They walk in the studio, y'oll crills this up, this, this,
that and talk and Punk keeps selling tone your tone,
your tone, yo yo yo, showing the apple, showing the apple, this, this, this.
You know, these guys were like crazy, right. So the
engineer is a little white boy, right, He's sitting there.
They go and they tell me to sit straight. So
I don't know what I'm not in on this, right,

(01:13:28):
so they telling yo, shit up, don't worry about it.
Punk got this, You're gonna be great.

Speaker 8 (01:13:34):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
So the guy sweating bullets, he's sitting there, he's scared
to death. Tone puts an apple on his head. Apple
sits straight, Bro, don't move if you sit straight, you
good this this this pump pulls out a gun. True story.
Pump pulls out the hammer. Right, Yo, sit there, this this,
the kid is sweating bullets like this, I'm sweating, but

(01:13:54):
I'm not yo fun chill like I'm telling the dudes
like yo, yo, yo yo, stop playing this. This punch
shoots the gun so punt bah shoot that No, the
apple force there and the guy dives under the fucking thing.
I start screaming because you gotta understand. They call me
the funk kill you don't pun. What the fuck? Fuck you, nigga,

(01:14:16):
this this I'm losing my mind because of the kid.
It was like a prop gun that they used for
the movies. But they shoot the ship. Sounded like he's
shooting the block. The apple fall down. Yo. You know
they never let us in battery studio again. I never
was able to, but I tried two years, three years,
four years later. They was like, Yo, your money not

(01:14:38):
good here. These guys we lucky. If it was today,
that little white boy would shoot us for a billion dollars.
You know what I'm saying, But Yo, this shit, these
guys were too much man, big pun with his bullshit.
He shut the apple with a blank but he never
shot it. It just sounded like a real gun. There's
no bullet come out of there. You know what I'm saying, Yo, Man,

(01:14:59):
this kid dove under that dashboard. That that shit, he
dove under that fucking shit. I looked at him. I said,
you know, some guys, I said all the time, some guys,
you can't like you. Guys are lucky. This guy's a
leader and he's calm, he thinks and once y'all to

(01:15:19):
not go to jail. He if Tony Sunshine was the leader,
we all be in jail for thirty thousand years. Like Tony,
you get fool with that fucking baby facing that R
and B. Shit. I'm sitting in the Mandi and the
Oriental one day and the food come and it's cold.
He smacks the cheek off the guy, the delivery man.

(01:15:42):
They threw me out of the mander and Oriental because
if yo, all the food is cold, the nuggets is cold.
This is I'm like, yo to my serve, smack the
shit out it. They never let me get back in
there for like ten years. I went back two years,
five years yo. They was like, now, mister Carterager and
I used to live in there, Nah, mister carf Eight
years later in Miami, Miami, the low one in Miami,

(01:16:05):
in it Oh, I love that spot. I come up
in there. They threw me out of there for like
ten years. They kept like, nah, you can't come back.
Finally they must have changed the manager. They got me
off the list. Now I could go back. But Yo,
this they told sun Shot got me in a bunch
of trouble man. And then Mark Sanchez he caught. So

(01:16:25):
Mark chis, yeah, he caught that ketchup, legend, Mark Sanchez
what he caught? He caught that ketch up legion. You see,
young boys, don't be sleeping on them old dudes. It's
vice version. I learned my lesson one time I fronted

(01:16:45):
on these young boys. They was about sixty pounds and
they pulled out a gun so big. We got the running.
They was blaming the whole like I mean, like you
should have knew you just all right this get sixty
round flat talking man shit big diesel dudes it they
gave him the beats. He pulled out the yalla and
let that thing ring. So legend, so he's starting with

(01:17:08):
you because the same thing I'm talking about legend gold
for a bit, Like I'm telling you legend right. What
I'm saying is we should have known the kid of
sixty pounds, how you gonna start with a bunch of
cock diesel guys coming in. You should have knew what
he wanted to do. This old man sixty nine, Mark Sanchez,
cock diesel football player kept fucking with the man. He

(01:17:30):
fucked with the man. Yes, the man said, he feared
for his life. I was deserved catch. So the man
gave him all heepestrates first, try to calm him down.
And I don't know. Box Sanchez was just drunk, high
out of his mind. He wanted to start with this
old man. The old man tried to pepper spray and

(01:17:51):
back him up. He kept coming. He said, at that point,
I thought this guy was man. He did something so
man seventy years old. He fucked that old man up.
He's seventy. So you got howked look either without the
old man. The old man had that Joey cupcake. He
gave him that cup in it. He in the tube,

(01:18:13):
the Mike quick, He in the tube the mike with
the old man said, you know how you got that thing? Yeah,
I think you are honorary Puerto Rican. You got that catch.
I don't bring the ketchup off because I know I'll
give him the ketchup. So no, sometimes is it sometimes
if you know you might get it's situations we might

(01:18:33):
get out with without the ketchup. If you got the
ketchup on you, and I tell anybody anybody would look
he got that he got Mark sans just the fuck
up off him, sixty nine year old man, give him
that ketchup. Legend like that ketchup will save your life.
It'll look like that for the ten guys beat you up.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
This guy's got.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
This guy's seventy damn bro. It ain't got arrested. No, no,
monk shanches got You're thirty years old beating up a
seventy y old. I don't know how to explain that.
You get all been arrested though that ain't that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Don't go with each other, yea.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
He and there he had coffed the thing he bleeding out.
I saw some strong sixty year olds. I ain't never
see a strong seventy yold like seventy old the man
that got every right to give you ketch up? You know?
And I like Mark saying it says he's a good dude.
He had a bad night. He probably fought with the wife.
He probably went around the world two three weeks in

(01:19:30):
the road, came home and still got cursed out when
he said, and the couch no food done, and it
got he went outside and tried to fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
With the old man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
The old man gave him catch up, legendary, tell him
tell your story walking. Anybody could pull that trigger, anybody
could pull that ketch up out again and give you
the end of two men's release that air quick. Well,
this ain't that. That, ain't this. This crack ain't kiss baby.

(01:19:57):
Don't get catch up from a man of seven, he's six,
don't get yo. Listen. I mean, I've been seeing a
lot of old dudes talking like this. Sold You've been
seeing a lot of old dudes, hood dudes talking wow
shit on there like like they don't realize they sixty
seventy or something like. I've been seeing them talk crazy

(01:20:19):
at what point? Like like me, I tell you the truth,
Fat Joe, I tell you all the gangst the stories
when I was young, Geruy Fort everybody. This is that
right now. My crew gonna dance on you, on my security.
You're gonna shoot your face. I'm being honest with you.
It's no fair ones. There's no one on one in
the face. No, no, shoot your face, scar face. He
shoots your face, he shoots your face. What you think

(01:20:41):
the guy looked like? Boring supremacy father for the man
gonna take I'm telling y'all. I don't have a problem
with it. It's legal. You want to fuck with me,
you gotta hammer you got whatever you got. He's shooting
your face off. My guys. They're gonna dance, so you
fat Joe. Today is a one on one somewhere. It's over, okay.
So I don't know what these old dudes are doing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Podcast nigga's money want to scrap with you though, you
ain't gonna come back out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
And they're gonna get pounded out every time. They're gonna
get not by me.

Speaker 16 (01:21:11):
Shus, It's not it's a level.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
You know who taught me that one time? I think
I want to say, uh, Jay Prince told me that
one time I seen him somewhere in La. We was
chilling Beverly Hills, and I'm just like, yeah, yo, Jay,
you look young this, this, that, And I was like,
you know me, I was telling him about seeing He
was like, you're not supposed to be in that. No war,
you what you think you got the guys for it?

(01:21:48):
You're older now, Joe. You're not supposed to be. No
guys is supposed to be like you know what I'm saying.
So if you want to invite me to a one
on one. You're very confused. I don't have a problem
with and then I don't have a problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:22:08):
I mean, what are you supposed to know? My das
is over man. And even when I did I have
one on ones, there was actually guys I liked that.
I had no choice, and I was like, you know what,
gif yeah, because the guys are killer. We didn't famous,
so I'm like, yo, all right, we could fight one
on one and get it over with and keep it moving.
If I actually liked him, he was somehow a member, right,

(01:22:33):
but a stranger one on one Never in my life, Man,
we beat up this guy. I told you that story
about the box, that that we I hit him with
the bottle on his head. I told you that story
that I'm not playing. Let me tell you something. My
brother was dead nice with his hands. My brother money man.
Ain't you called a gena for everybody in false projects?

(01:22:53):
Dead nice? Every time he fought the whole project to
come out.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
He fight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
One day I heard a rumor he was off the dust.
Dude knocked him out. So they telling me, Yo, Joe,
such and such knocked your brother out, this and this
and that. Now my brother is my biggest idol. Months later,
I see the guy they talking about. I go wake
my brother up. That's why I don't wake nobody up
out of their sleep. If you got beef, don't wake

(01:23:20):
nobody up out of their sleep because they chilling you.
Waking them up for a problem. They sleeping, chilling in
the house. They safe A ready, you make at home?
You safe. I wake up my brother. Yo, bro, that
goud man he outside. They say, he beat you up.
This is that my poor brother man, such a decent guy.
He came out of work, he was sleeping. He didn't
want to let his brother down. He throws his sneakers

(01:23:42):
on the sweat suit. He come out there with me. Y'all,
y'all already feel out of it. Yo jada, yo jada.
I go over there. So now, according to my brother,
the guy we talking about snuffed them. He ain't give
him the fairwek right. He snuffed my brother. That's how
it happened. And my brother was hogh, what angel does?

(01:24:04):
But my brother catch him coming out the window, duffing boom.
The dude fall on the floor. I'm a kid, I'm
like ten years old. My brother help him up and
tell him now, let's shoot the fair one. The guy
he's fighting is the Golden Gloves champion. Everybody know he dead.
Nice now, me, I'd have hit him with a bottle,
gave him some ketchup, stumped him out with the crew.

(01:24:27):
That'd have been the end of the conversation. Right, So
they get to fighting. One on one. He knocked my
brother down. This he been. He gave my brother the
beats one on one. But the whole time I'm walking
with my brother, I'm a little kid, and I'm like, yo,
why you give him the fair one? Why you ain't
starting out while he was on the floor, June, Why
you ain't hit him with a bottle. He was like, Nah,

(01:24:48):
that's not It's not me. That's how I get No.
I'm so I'm hitting you with a rewinded just we're
hitting you with a rewinded tent over your head. I'm
not playing with you. Boy. You went to Temple t
you went to Temple University. Temple was dope.

Speaker 15 (01:25:09):
That was a good That was a good time too,
because it was I was. I was at Temple right
when like the roots were taking off. Erica Jazzy Fat
Nasti's common black Star. Everybody was there. Everybody was I
was there for all that Softwarans D'Angelo. Like there was
just like this renaissance free shows everywhere every night, Jazzy
Fat Nasti's five spot. Like you notice that you would
just see real music hip hop all the time. Uh,

(01:25:32):
you know, shout out to like you know the electric Yeah,
studies where Joe Scott fell in love with Joe Scott
there like, and we had our basketball team was nice too.
That's when we had like Pepe Sanchez, Quincy Wadley. We
played lamar odem u r I. We played them like
we made like the Elite eight live on TV. Coach
It's our motto is to you motherfuckers. So that didn't

(01:25:54):
really work well for ESPN. It was like live on ESPN.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
They didn't they never came back. But we had Coach Chaney,
no doubt. We had Coach Chrainer. Yeah. That was a
good years. And I taught high school in Philly for
a few years. Uh what was like? That was dope?
That was that was the best job I ever had.
You know, I taught high school in the hood.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Explain that to us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Just for the love of the kids. Yeah, for the
love of the kids for how important it was like
a kid. Yo. There were some badass kids there too,
but it was detective in the fucking from first to
sixth grade. We had that too.

Speaker 15 (01:26:25):
I had I had kids with a loaded gun in
my class like that to a high school thought, and
I looked like I was in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
I was in my early twenties. They had guns, but
we had a daycare center. They had babies, like you know,
kids in the school had babies. Oh yeah, we had
a daycare center like it was. Yeah, a lot of
girls were pregnant. It was real. Ship is where we
came from. So it was like we were I was
that bad ass kid like it was.

Speaker 15 (01:26:48):
I've been definitely had my life turned in the right
direction by great teachers before, and I was trying to
do that like it was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
It was beautiful work. It was important. I had really
great students.

Speaker 15 (01:26:58):
I taught like you know, I turned every last I
was a sub, long term sub at first, and I
would have turned everything into African history, find it and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
It was and it was beautiful. It's just changed. But
it's such a lack of that right because right now
I just saw, uh, they have a museum right now
when they're trying to like erase African American history. Basically
just got the gun that killed Emit Till. The person
who found it is also the guy who wrote the

(01:27:25):
book about Mmettil and he says, there is no mention
of Emmett Till in no history book in the whole
school system throughout the Civil Rights era or nothing like that.
So it's it's so important to teach African American history
to the youth because we don't know, like, you know,

(01:27:46):
I argue with these like you know, sometimes I'm in
the car and and somebody says something said, do you
know the traffic stop was yeah, the traffic yeah, person,
do you know the plasma with Charrich?

Speaker 15 (01:27:58):
None of this if they know that what we created,
like the whole hustle of this society and white supremacy,
the con doesn't work if you actually understand the role
the contributions that black VODs work, and this shit don't
st our slavery. If you learn where Greece actually study,
where Rome actually study, where they what they learned in Africa,
whereas institutions and mathematics and all these things came from.

(01:28:20):
It's not just like to feel good. It's the actual
history is foundational of all this shit. Empires rise and fall,
you know what I mean, Like we're in one that's
going to fall.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
And hope and not while I'm here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Yeah, but my kids, I'm being able to to fall,
being able to well, every empire falls, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Like so you know how we feel like this is American?
Can nobody come blow us up? We safe this? That's bullshit.
It happened that every empire in the past, you know.
And uh, And what's crazy is I just came back
on a flight from Dubai with a couple that went
to Egypt. It's one place I've never been to that

(01:28:59):
I always want to go. Yeah, And I was talking
to them and they were like, yo, you know King Tut,
Like I find this confused, And they was like King
Tut is still in the tomb right there. You could
see them, And I'm like, how could you see King
cut didn't he died like ten thousand years ago. Don't
like disintegrating and all that. But the main thing about
it was they were explaining that the pyramids were made

(01:29:24):
so that if there's an earthquake that sways with the earthquake,
you can't blow them buildings. Them buildings won't fall. And
I've seen they had ac you know how it is,
and fucking Egypt, them the pharaohs, and on that ac
they figured out how to make a c all these

(01:29:44):
years ago with the water system.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
And all that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
These guys were brilliant. I'm not lying Google. Oh god,
he threw a flag on the plane house. Still I
ain't see it don't work sometimes ac.

Speaker 17 (01:29:58):
Always, and they had air shafts keeping it shaded. You
could say, keeping a shade.

Speaker 15 (01:30:09):
How many things are temples connected to start the constellation?

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Laying it the right way?

Speaker 18 (01:30:15):
Yeah, you made it seem like they got situated like
we got. They just plugged that shit in Jada one
hundred and forty degrees outside. Yeah, there's a way for
you to make it cool. I got that adapter, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Was the point is there's been extra extraordinary intelligence with
with Africans. African Americans dead, they don't teach it. So
teaching in Philly, Yeah, and you're teaching the kids that
absolutely evident chance, every every chance you get.

Speaker 15 (01:30:50):
I mean, I'm teaching them showing them, you know, figures
in African history, including Keemit Black as they are with
corn roads that are the leading irrigators, astronomers, architects, city planners, physicians, surgeons,
all these things well before Europe came out of the
dark ages. And you just watch your students, just like
I did when my dad was teaching this to me.

(01:31:11):
Posture change, lifting up, like asking questions, now involved like
it includes me. It's the only element of school that
includes you. And it's telling you that you've already been here,
you already had You didn't come from the mud, you
ain't come from slavery, edit at the beginning and nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
That's the end of something.

Speaker 15 (01:31:27):
And are confidence And it's not just for us, you think,
you know if white kids and everybody else also had
to learn that we invented. You can't walk through this
country without touching ten things at an African invented, invent
that affects you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Why don't we mention something that come to mind just
so for the kids just watching right now.

Speaker 15 (01:31:47):
Elevator refrigeration, early cell phone technology. Would you say you said,
traffic fighter, e big light, Lewis Latimer and the light bulb,
the actual work with Edison when in live with hi
light all of London.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
They don't know that right, Joe Slider Man, as you
did a life for medicine, true done, edis what I'm
saying to you is. And I was thinking the other day,
I said, man, you know, Tupac and Biggie were young kids,
right and twenty six and whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Yeah, but whatever came to their mind.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Like Tupac was talking about real shit that that happens
right now and Big two and so back in that day, right,
because I was trying to think, like, other than his
family being black panthers and stuff like that, I was
like trying to think of him a Biggie. They was
talking about issues that was happening at the time. And

(01:32:43):
then I thought about it. I said, well, you know
that we was coming right off of Karius One, Public Enemy,
Queen Latifah, that whole right, It's all that conscious movement.
So they were more like the lyricists, but they were
including consciousness in the music. I see a lack of that,
unless I don't know with the youth today, like I

(01:33:07):
see a lack of that. You know, at least we
caught that in our era, you know, talking about like
where he made a song like why but why it
comes from? You know of that era from people in
front of them, and so it's very important that we
teach our history. Why do you think that?

Speaker 4 (01:33:25):
Why do you think that?

Speaker 15 (01:33:26):
Do you think we can get that level of musicality back,
that level of songwriting where it's about just love and
real ship in our community from that that entire era.

Speaker 19 (01:33:36):
I say we have to go the way you went
about teaching your class, Like when when when amongst each other,
you make it sound interesting, interesting, and they want to learn.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
Then the posture change, then the music would change.

Speaker 15 (01:33:52):
So leading by example, maybe a couple O g's need
to do something just to see that it is cool
that there is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Something I also believe that's in our culture.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
That's how you start to yeah, spread some of you
who lean gag, Yeah, what is cool is I don't
want you can't be about money?

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Okay, because the world the way hip hop is fucked up?
Is it just it went from an art form that
was created by poor people in the Bronx don't know, Hey,
I'm from the box. Maybe we invented this shit. We
want to have these couches in this motherfucker without the Bronx.
But wasn't for the Bronx to rap shit? Never don't
do that. But what you know, I try to pluck

(01:34:33):
it every time. But the truth is it came from
an art form where these people, unfortunately, our pioneers who
started this, they never got their money or they just
too no, because they did it out of love and
if they would do it ten times again, a hundred
times again, they were going in party for free again.

(01:34:53):
And so this conscious movement of this time right now
can't be currency based because now people is all thinking
about let me get one hit and I'm gonna make
my money. It's a bag, it's a lick. They're not
preserving the culture. They're not so much about teaching the
youth for whatever. So it got to be a group
of people. A group of people a collective decisions money

(01:35:18):
and you can make money to make it. You make money,
but you don't use it makes good money. But you
guys be inventive and creating the job. Yeah, to fund
that it might be our job or find it at y'all,
we're gonna donate platform we make a lot of money. Yeah,
that's donate some money towards those guys who are trying

(01:35:38):
to give the positive message and ain't making no money.
It's not even about the money.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Like you said, you have to show them firsthad that
is cool and then in it, well, I think what
about it?

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
It?

Speaker 15 (01:35:50):
Also we have to remember it and make it anti
blackness has got to be uncool. It's like how many
niggas you can destroy us just killing each other and
inviscerating each other. And I think it was a young
brilliant brother, you know, Vince Staples. He said in an interview.
It was good to hear from a young a young
artist's mouth like the MCS used to wrap about having

(01:36:10):
a sling crack, right, having to be alchemists and create
something out of nothing, having having a pushdough.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
And now it's the drug users. Now it's the drug.

Speaker 15 (01:36:17):
Addicts making making music about being addicted to drugs and
using drugs. And that's a that's a shift because we're
all listening, we're absorbing it. Those high school kids are
wrapping it. We memorized. You can't memorize your time stables
or the history.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
But you but you know that, but you know the
song they had a kid out of Philly, brilliant only
wrapped about positive beautiful brother. This gave him two blocks
of Philly. Yeah, and that was three blocks. Yeah, yeah,
you know, but that would that that right there touched
me because, uh, this kid he was he was.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Doing that one of the you doing the conscious movement
isn't enough though, it wasn't enough behind it. It wasn't
He was the he was alone.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
He was the he was the under you know, more
of the negativity than them. He was the out cast.

Speaker 8 (01:37:02):
Many of the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Scott's starts, you know, changed his life. What I'm saying,
they just rap talked about it. That was that was
the reverse rapism. They had that boy doing all them
fucking hits and they wouldn't give him credit. And so
rob Reef to by only A and R did I
ever one of the great is from one of the greatest,

(01:37:32):
changed my life, made me millionaire. This guy rob reath
too low because the other dah on A and R's But.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
I don't like he's a different breed. He's from that era.
Br there was the best maybe ever and even back
in those days, he made sure I got my bread,
even if it was a little bit because they.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Didn't have to do that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
He was one of those guys like I don't know,
hats off to you know to reef man straight up.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Let me explain. I don't even want to go there
because I don't want to earned this interview into a
cap interview, right, but thank you. What I can say, Yo,
let me tell you some rob Reef too Lott changed
my life. You know what I'm saying. He he heard
you know what I'm saying. I was working with Biggie

(01:38:17):
on a project and he came and Divide and Conquer.
He said, Yo, you're doing this work with Biggie. I said, yeah,
I only had two albums before that. I had no money. No,
nothing flowed Joe. None of that ship made money, sold records, this, this,
and that. He was like, y'all want to give you
your own label. He took me to Atlantic and because
I was going to put out a project with Biggie.

(01:38:38):
It's the only reason I never saw I didn't deserve
my own record. Like, wait a minute, a minute, you
had records with Biggie? Yes, where you are under a rock.
I'm sure to tell you that one you got out.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
They never cared.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
That's the inception, that's the exception of Cap Joe. Because
I told people I was doing the man out of
where are they records? Listen, I don't have it. No, no,
how come to snow I'm too will you know? I
ain't gonna lie never. Me and Biggie was cutting records.
He want to be the black Down. I'm the Spanish Dawn.

(01:39:12):
Some people call it cat whatever. This is Rob Toolo,
as the A and R of Atlantic, heard that I
was doing this project and stepped to me and was like, yo,
you're doing it and I'm like yeah. He was like, yo, yo,
I want to give you your own record label. I
didn't even deserve the recording. So I on a million dollars.
I might have had two brand in my fucking back.
Can't you have pun already?

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
No, no yet?

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
This was this is terr scud Records.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Yeah, but this is the beginning. This is keep it
fun or nothing like that. It was just me only
had two albums. Are hustling is the key to successful
flow Joe? So Rob came and gave me millions my
own record label. And that's why they gave me my
record label because he was like a Biggie fucking with
this guy. Fat Joe's on our shot you with l

(01:39:59):
O and all of them that was out already, Let's
grab him right here. That was out. So he was like,
you know, the momentum, the projection was there, it just
wasn't there. You know how we all say Big L
wouldn't have died, he would have been the biggest. So
I was like projected to win, but I wasn't there yet.
And Rob took the chance with me and did that

(01:40:19):
same thing with Scott Storch when he when he introduced
me to Scott Storch, and he was just so talented,
and I was just like, yo, and I'm the first
to go yo. Scott Storch on a hit record.

Speaker 20 (01:40:30):
I just use that tag on the song Tomo just
he just plays some keys on the song. I just
drive with Az Chike and Baby Charing and yeah, you
heard the Yo. Scott Storch was up after that. He
had cheese lines outside the state. But let me tell
you what's crazy about you producers? Man, Yo, Jada, it's
the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Scott's too good. After I shout it out, Scott Storch,
I'm going to the studio. It's met the man Redman.
This one that was cheese lines of rappers? Whoever is
your number one rapper? It's Jada? Was you on the line? Yes?
He what he wasna sit with over Scott. He's a y'all,
what up, nephew, ain't see you on man, y'all, let

(01:41:09):
me tell you something. You've fed your credit. But I said,
I said, a lot of trends in this game. I've
seen Scott's story. You know, we have it boy and
now miss it. Scott storches. Oh nothing, Scott storks down.
You do those don't care. But let me tell you something. No,
it's a lot of Scott Storge stories. Listen, So I

(01:41:31):
got Scott Storch.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
That man is Leonardo DiCaprio of the Music Game. When
he tells his story, he got stories. Oh my god,
life lived life. Did you guys have no super like?
Do you guys?

Speaker 4 (01:41:53):
Ever?

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Like make a pack so you come see Jada and
it's like, all right, I hear this for Jada, but
you keep the other pack for jay Z. I used
to hate these produce. They come in the studio to
bring us beats and some ship. They be like, oh
this is for Hole. It's all. I'm over there trying

(01:42:14):
to make a fucking hit my mind. I got a
fucking wrench around my brain, man, trying to crack open
us something we went to a bad boy with big
to the beach to say, no, that's for big for me.
If you were running wild all them is they were
coming to the ship, would they'd be like, all can't

(01:42:37):
really give you that? We got the red Man and
we like, yo, my man, Like what the fuck were
you giving me chopped liver?

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
We used to come to the studio, you remember those days,
like in Battery when y'all would have like album mode
and we used to come and line up. It would
be buck wild rock Wilder, whoever come with the dats
and have to play beats. But y'all used to have
the fucking shenanigans like I remember one time it was
you and punted the studio and I came in in
the studio to play beats and it was it was
it was a hammer on the table allegedly saying all right.

(01:43:07):
So I walked in and Plumb was sitting all the
way on the back on the couch against the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Right, that's what he used to say.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
And he put a he he went and grabbed the apple.
He put an apple on his head. That let's see flying.
He put an apple, take the he put listen. I
spoke to Joe in a minute. He put an apple
on his head. He said, yo, Joe, Joe. Joe said
right now, right here, he said, Joe, go go go ahead,
go ahead. Joe said, now we can't do that, right,

(01:43:35):
he said, go go go. Joe took the hammer and
playing with like this, they made the made the fucking
it was a it was an arragun like.

Speaker 8 (01:43:43):
He made it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
He made the apple. I tell you I started recently
if I het did that. But Tony sun Shot today,
you know, they never put us in battery studios again.
Tom SunShot put the apple on some young this little
white engineerah, and they plunged it the same ship shot
it and never let me rant that studio again in
my life. It was my favorite fucking studios. Them sessions

(01:44:06):
were crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
Sessions were crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Cap He gets one taken back, he guess from the
story checks out, He gets his time out, then he
gets another challenge.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
Those were crazy days, man, But yeah, I mean, you know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
They were the fun days for sure. See I thought
you was a member of marv D. I mean shitty.
You can say that. Well the way I looked at it, right,
because you got havoc, you know, Nigga's calling that the
number one album of all time produced straight up, I
see I see less all the time with infamous Yes influences.

(01:44:42):
And so you come afterwards and team up with Prodigy
music you're putting in and work with came in Murder
Murder music is when I got down. Come in when
he already has a doctor Drake. So I thought you
was the third member of mal Deep.

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
I swear to God, listen, I tell half all the time.
I thank him, And that's a real testament to confidence
he's having. He made a whole sound. So when I
got to New York, I was around soaking up all
that shit, figuring out how to make the drums a
certain way, like hal As of Mastermind Genius. We noticed,
you know what I'm saying. But you know, the connection

(01:45:18):
was through Cyprus. So it's funny how I work. You know,
Mugs was working with them all but I came to
New York and he linked me with them, and they
just saw me in New York like just out here
Dolo still reping soul assassins. But they were like, come
fuck with us, you know, and I just I was
out here kind of by myself, so them putting me
into the mix. You know how that made me feel like,
think of that Marb deep Murder music. Is they already

(01:45:41):
did Hell on Earth infamous.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
So I'm trying.

Speaker 4 (01:45:45):
I was a fan when I met him, you know
what I'm saying. So the fact they left me, and
you know how it is is it was gradual too,
because they're not the type to just be like, come
on in you with us. It took a while until
I was like with Kwan's wedding and I went, do
you know how you go to a wedding?

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
They give you them shuttle bus, sit next to Riz
and his wife. The wizard turns around. It's like, no,
I used to let you, you know, work with Gray yo,
Like you know some cruise they wouldn't even let you
work with each other. They be like yo. He was like, yo,
you know, I'm glad we at the wedding because I

(01:46:20):
don't feel about that. I mean, that's you know Rizzard
as it was a boss. That's like you called my
outfit a little elf. He kind of like a little
out of way. I used to let you vinky in
the brain that shit looking fly right there. But you know,
your brother compliments your outfits. Man, just say something about
my outfit. Man, it's outfits to motherfucker boy. He won't

(01:46:43):
give me a compliment for nothing, like you're covering men
all the time, yo, listen. But where we was at
with the cruise, like even me right, and I please,
I don't want to start no type of beef. I
worship you guys. I love you guys to death. But
I'm a member of Digging in the Crates from the beginning.

(01:47:04):
And I remember when they asked me to do I
shot you l's I shot you with keeping. Of course,
some of the members was like, they don't rock with it. No,
they was the underground. They they was underground. They didn't
believe that it was forbidden for you to do a
shingle that was about to blow. They didn't want yeah
with my idol, WELLO cool there.

Speaker 16 (01:47:25):
I was like, Yo, this is my idol.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
This guy's full time planer. I was like David James.
There was like strictly underground. It's seven members and Digging
in the crowd.

Speaker 8 (01:47:36):
Who was it?

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
No, I can't what I'm what I'm saying. Two of
the three members, No, I think I know who it was.
Two of the three members I know who. It was like, yo,
only it was a show.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
It was a show.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
I knew. It was like it's two or three members.
That was like, yo, we rock with us when I
was just like I said, look, that was the one
time I say, man, I wasn't. It wasn't and Giant
leave it alone. So it was at week and there
were down but that record was hard. I was born yesterday. No,
it was a stepping stone, you know what I'm saying.

(01:48:09):
It was almost like a pop that French Montana like
it was a time like I shot to put me
on another. Was that a Chris Lighty Chris light and
Chris Lighty and the track masters. Yeah, yeah, but Chris
talked to me. They fucked me hard, so they came.
They hurt my second album. I was working that Battery.

(01:48:30):
It was like, YO, want to jump on this LL.
But I know about you know you working with Prodigy,
you know, I know they must have had some internal
talks like yo, ah, man, we ain't talking about that.
He made it in he made this ship. It was
always love. Have always showed me love.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
But we kind of you know, still sharp and still
like oh we shot out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
We gotta shout out my men keg aka Rockstar ak
Ti Roie because he put us together.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
That's right. And Yo, you know what's crazy? You're doing
this thing now shouting god. You might go evenim the
best wreck it ever?

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
And you know what's crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
Do you remember?

Speaker 8 (01:49:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
No, that's a no.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
It's definitely timeless.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
He had a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
I don't know what he like one he gave me
still feeling and feel me. This is another connection. That's crazy,
kidding me?

Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
Remember the beat for bringing on? Remember to be for
bringing on, Remember to bring it on? Beat right, bring
it on? So there was a stretch.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
It was a stretch that beat in the cobra cluts
you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
And then and then Stretch came and told me y'all
was asking who did the beat? Because I didn't know
y'all yet, Stretch on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
Stretching while went up on stretch. We bowed there. Now,
what's the real story? This the last time we ever
going to talk about this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Could shout out to my brothers, cast shout hold on.
He's going to say shadow Joe rast cast a lessond.
Let me say your moses, chill out. I'm talking a
moment for me. Can I have my mom I want
to take my moment. No, no, let me get it's
a cafe con truck.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
So whatever happened because all I know, you came in
played me some bits. I picked that in that and
then I got a you know what I mean, so
with because it's really your height took. I took the
heat for it, but it was really our He didn't
tell me what was going on with it. This is
the last time we ever did to talk about this

(01:50:34):
because he's all love. So let's it was just a
mix up, man, it was. It was a misunderstanding. I
had love for both of y'all still, do you know?
Shout to Rap. I just saw Rast last week, you know,
living legend killing it. It was Contrast chill.

Speaker 19 (01:50:48):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
It was a mix up. It was early in my career,
you know what I'm saying, And it was like it was.
It was a lot of little moving parts and ship
that happened. But in the end, you know, I wish
it didn't go that way, you know what I'm saying.
But then in the end, the record we made definitely
became something that lasting forever.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
And shouts to Rast too, you know what I mean
it was. It was just a mix up and back
in that time. But you know, I wish the best
for everybody going. Everybody's doing great now. Well you know
what happened to me? Yoh we Yeah, I told it
ahead of Talp did he have first? Fougie Live was

(01:51:27):
star spiggled manner in my face by salam Remy right
after flowing. I'm not telling you I wouldn't have did
a better job than Fuji lot, but I was in
his house in man he made Fuuji line in my
face for fat Joe. We used to be nothing but
what he said. Laurence Hill came like two hours later
and was like, oh no Joe, this is my ship

(01:51:51):
and they snatched up that Fuuji li. It was made
for me. If you Fuji, it's the same type of drums,
just flow Joe, same face saying everything. She came and
through that ship, and nicolebra Clutch was like, Yo, I
need this, we get that batch.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
I just heard recently you said when the lose was
originally for me and Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:52:10):
I never told you, nap. See this is what happened.
You know when we were doing all albums.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
Can we hit could you play when the lose right out.
Think about imagine that too.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
Imagine this. We were finishing the Mall album and like
when we were doing the album, we would go to
the studio and work, but sometimes they would come to
my crib and we record joints. So that was a
joint I had in my crib in the computer. The
album was done, and I was like, I secretly I
hadn't told you, but I was like hoping they would
forget as I wanted to put sp and kiss on it.

(01:52:43):
And then Pete came to my crib like a week
before they were finishing the album was like, Yo, remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
It was that one joint we had in the computer.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
And I was like, oh yeah, but you know, you
know what I'm saying. I always what would that have
been like? Man, because all they wanted to say imagine
and you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
You know here, Joe j we don't let nobody finish
their answer.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
I'm glad, he said, I'm glad that was one of
the best things you ever said, you brother.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
That, Yeah, I need to do a clip of like
you know what happens is I'd just be like the
ideas come up while I'm hearing that, I'm like, oh,
I got a better I gotta work on that. Put
it up cranky dropping man, Oh you would have wear crazy, right,

(01:53:39):
imagine that, you know you would have wear craz.

Speaker 16 (01:53:41):
I had the right idea.

Speaker 21 (01:53:43):
Whoa yes, another thing, another dollars, a house of my
nose running up and out in the coat because it's
so DRM's know, but better.

Speaker 16 (01:54:01):
I feel that different than my pus.

Speaker 22 (01:54:02):
Like a ship song, it's time to go shopping for
cars not passing. I went thro the ball my clothes
ship that we had all fuck look at you say
that for the bro.

Speaker 21 (01:54:13):
It's the a J video set up a reload knock
not gifted that a.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
Platform through the ping pole slack starts pay. So we
beat those to getting locked in them slutting the CEO.

Speaker 22 (01:54:23):
The only niggas you know that fuck their pos. They
push our fast to the top.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
You're still on parole. We got money, your roll, no
time for was different. If I was you, I wasn't
want to hear that that's it. Well anyway, that's a
legendary song, but that that definitely uh got the locks
written off. They would have been phrased we got music.

Speaker 23 (01:54:50):
The play lest his song do you play low in
license free?

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
I got the leg right, show us the low challenge,
and then you gotta.

Speaker 23 (01:55:01):
We can make one up though, because it's you and I.
We can just go low how we want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
You gotta take it easy.

Speaker 23 (01:55:07):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait, we can lean back and
go low. We can lean back and go low.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Give us a low and give us what the matrix.
Give us a lean says a little different. If you
do that, we are there. We passed. If you on
the street.

Speaker 23 (01:55:29):
When the track comes on, we're gonna get up and
try together. We see it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
You guys so aggressive, show us and then we gotta try.

Speaker 23 (01:55:40):
Guys, you New Yorkers are so aggressive.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
Come on, Joe said. Joe said to me, so what's
the low?

Speaker 23 (01:55:48):
New Yorkers? Yes, show us, so what's the loan?

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
We've been the hood and win over here. We can't
agree to anything until we see Oh cray, he's right.
Let's new song. Okay, this a sustained.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Shout out the life man, just living life, being good people. Yes, sir,
mm hmmm, he took a sip. You can get load now,
you know, definitely get low. You don't take SIPs. One wrap,
one more ship you low.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
Let me get it. No, let me get let me
get one more. Tell you something. I'm like the scarecrow.
I need a little oil with my joints. No side,
I can't get low.

Speaker 23 (01:56:44):
All right, I'm gonna play this record. So this is so,
this is me and Diamond Platinum. Let's see my song Low.
The video is out.

Speaker 24 (01:56:52):
It's been amazing. All the love everybody's been showing, it's
been incredible. And like I say, I'm my boid Diamonds
from Tanzania. So I'm a get into this record right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
It turns nope, turns to me. Is the furthest place
I've been on earth?

Speaker 23 (01:57:05):
That's you haven't been there yet.

Speaker 4 (01:57:08):
I've been there.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Put it dellow, crag.

Speaker 25 (01:57:16):
Yo, talk your money's calling. Tell me to show you
how I can't make you fas.

Speaker 24 (01:57:33):
I put it down the right away.

Speaker 23 (01:57:35):
Ye seems make up.

Speaker 25 (01:57:36):
I won't try makes pretty basicly behind me, behind me.

Speaker 23 (01:57:41):
We'll choose positions. You take a hold on me. I'm
having visions.

Speaker 13 (01:57:48):
You get me and I know and I know you're
watching men.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Did you more rid.

Speaker 23 (01:57:58):
O'ha?

Speaker 25 (01:57:59):
Let you take it?

Speaker 23 (01:58:00):
Control wine down for you. No, Lord, just don't name me.
It's in no my, how much you take.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
And I think you.

Speaker 13 (01:58:16):
And now this game on going.

Speaker 8 (01:58:20):
No no no no no no no no no.

Speaker 26 (01:58:25):
No no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no, whole load of mirrors here.
When you put the boss, then the Bristoe crazy come

(01:58:47):
from MS and puts up from crazy for your own.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Right way to spire town.

Speaker 8 (01:58:56):
You put it down.

Speaker 4 (01:58:59):
Around.

Speaker 23 (01:59:00):
Tell me how that sounds?

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
How thick him?

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
Any quick, quick quick? But can you.

Speaker 23 (01:59:11):
Take control?

Speaker 8 (01:59:14):
Well? You come you joke Jo, you don't you don't.

Speaker 24 (01:59:44):
You babby in me.

Speaker 25 (01:59:52):
Baby, thank you, mek me.

Speaker 13 (02:00:00):
It means something becomes all the means control the things, control.

Speaker 9 (02:00:15):
What you.

Speaker 8 (02:00:17):
Something else control baby man.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
I can't wait to see that. Let's go. I can't
wait to see that on now doc good. That was good,
that's fine. That song is no that song is crazy
like so much so that sounds like a hit to me.
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
And and then you know what the Joe and Jada
effects going on, magnetize whatever.

Speaker 23 (02:01:02):
I need unknown videos, I need those iPhone videos.

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
I need them and me going low. That's crazy. That's
too good.

Speaker 23 (02:01:15):
Let me tell you man, I got one more for you.

Speaker 25 (02:01:18):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
So this next record, the freaking Nature you went low
to the point of where your neck almost hit the floor.

Speaker 27 (02:01:29):
Come on, my fat ass is like lo lo lo,
like no, no, no, no, Joe, stop. You did good,
You did good.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
Okay.

Speaker 23 (02:01:41):
So this next record right here is this is me,
Molly and ox Late. Again.

Speaker 24 (02:01:46):
Molly is from Ghana and ox Lated is from Nigeria.
So again I'm just in my bag with my people.
So this is called Nice and Sweet and we're gonna
sauce it up November fourteenth. It is a big day,
so I'm about to give it to y'all. Nice and
sylet's go.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
For me.

Speaker 24 (02:02:05):
I definitely feel incredibly empowered to be doing it my
way because literally the day, uh you know, I had
one of the worst I called one of the worst
beings in my career, I would say, in one day
in the next so I was I went in with
level up right, and so trying to make this story short,
but basically I was in this the recording system, the

(02:02:25):
major system, right, I don't like saying the name, but
I was in the sign of the label. And then
there was a rotation of CEOs coming in and out.
So you all know, like I know, when you have
a new system coming in, you have to resell all
over again. That's exhausting.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
Not only that they come in with a new minds.
I didn't want to run.

Speaker 23 (02:02:44):
Yeah, knew everything, so you got to convince that I've
understood that.

Speaker 24 (02:02:50):
Yeah, so you gotta do it all over again, right,
So that was my second round of having to do
that again. I'm like, man, this is crazy because you
already start the process, you already know where you want
to go. But I got to sell the next person
all over again. So I had the meeting with the
with the gentleman and with the guy, and then you know,
I played in the visual for Level Up, played in

(02:03:10):
the record.

Speaker 23 (02:03:10):
I'm like, you know, I think this is gonna be crazy.

Speaker 24 (02:03:14):
You know, I'm feeling real confident, and he basically just
kind of looking at me like like oh, like he
didn't see the vision of what I saw. And so
I walked out kind of like depleted because I'm like,
I was so hyped up for this meeting and now
I'm about to get this record out and he yeah,
but it's crazy because the power manifestation is real. Literally
a few weeks before this, Russ and I were playing

(02:03:35):
because I was so frustrated with the system in general.
I'm like, man, I can't wait to round my own
label one day, Like I can't wait to do it
my way. And we start researching like people that own
their own labels, women that have their own labels, Like
we should start going to this whole like rabbit hole.
So then fast forward to literally it's crazy, like what
you say is so important, Like there's life and death

(02:03:55):
in the tongue. So I always say, when you speak,
you have a chance to tell your life story, say
great things. So I'm like talking, like subconsciously speaking life
into what I wanted to do.

Speaker 23 (02:04:04):
Literally, have that meeting worst meeting in one day.

Speaker 24 (02:04:07):
The next day one of the best days, because I
started Beauty Marks Entertainment, my own label, and my idea
was that all the scars you get from the offices
you face some life or your beauty marks. So I
was able to look at life's journey and be like,
you know, all that I've gone through that hasn't been
so beautiful and felt so ugly and so like uncomfortable
when I went through it was they're my beauty marks, right,
So me kind of just like encapsulate my journey. But anyways,

(02:04:31):
you know, I asked my master's back, gave them to
me for free.

Speaker 23 (02:04:34):
Didn't believe like that?

Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
Like that right like that? Yeah, so I know who
to call.

Speaker 24 (02:04:42):
I even talk from me of because jokes, Joe, let
him know, let the handbra get on of No, but
I asked for it, gave it to me for free,
and then you know, I'll never look back. And now
fast forward to levels. Level up is almost four times
platinum to day or money. Yeah, it's a blessed thing.

Speaker 23 (02:05:00):
And it's a song.

Speaker 24 (02:05:01):
It just keeps on leveling up, right, you know, just
recently it's the song for the Starbucks you know, commercial
for the protein drink they have, And there's just been
so many opportunities to started retrending all over again on
TikTok not too long ago.

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
And and then God works.

Speaker 24 (02:05:16):
Yeah God is, so I say, he's a boss of
all bosses, so like whatever he said is gonna be.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
You know the CC album. I've seen you cooking up
with tigers. Yeah, I've seen some fasage of all our
guess I usually have a song with.

Speaker 24 (02:05:32):
I just want to know why listen you say less
when I walk out of here, I might have a record.

Speaker 23 (02:05:38):
No, you don't understand. You don't understand, you know, because
I because I flow you down. Wait, I flagged you down.
At the next game, I said, Babe, I got Jay's
gonna go.

Speaker 24 (02:05:54):
I gotta watch it because you know, sometimes you go
back to the back, but you don't understand, like you're
like the best.

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
You know, like your tiger cooking that ship was dope.
I'm like, damn, why the felt would have been perfect
on you?

Speaker 2 (02:06:12):
And then to the second part remix, No, no, I'm
here baby, you know that done?

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
Then the second part.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
I feel there's one thing I don't like being signed
to the majors that all of the hard work, everything
you showed them what you can do. How every time
you want to release a project, it's like you gotta
keep selling it doing the audition.

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Who the do you not know who we are? Why
the fact they would turn the like back the star shirts?
Why why don't you make your own independent and hid
hire me for free as your CEO and I show
you how to do it? Fuck dumb man, I'm telling me, yo,

(02:06:57):
we show them I know how to do it. No,
that's my whole I've been green, I've been winning. That's
winking like I never knew. I've been fucking winning, independent
non stop.

Speaker 24 (02:07:11):
That's why the power of believing in yourself is so important,
especially especially when you here in those moments, because you
know you got Those are not flags.

Speaker 1 (02:07:26):
This is good stuff. Is a good flag. Yeah, you know,
it's a good you know, the flags of the loop.

Speaker 23 (02:07:35):
You gotta gain on it. You gotta gain on the flag,
gain on the

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
Plant, all our football you we're gonna get into that

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