Erick Sermon talks 'Dynamic Duos' album: Tupac, Biggie, Mobb Deep, Snoop & more

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I gotta flex one time because I don't talk. There's
nobody like me. I don't give who out there because
again people talk about don't talk.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm talking now, Yo, what up y'all? This is Joe Crack. Yes,
it's your boy, Jayda Yo son, you know what it is? Yes,

(00:30):
did Joe and Jada's show?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Every show legendary, every show iconic and we never let
you down Today's guests.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
When you think of hip.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Hop, when you think of style, fashion iconic, when you
think of one of the first sonically voices that drove
everybody crazy, when you think of camaraderie, chemistry, when you
think of production, when you think of a mentor that
created the motherfucker conglomerate in the Dynasty way back before

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people was even doing that kind of things with their
labels and artists. When you think of somebody that's underrated
for those that must have been under a rock or
just stupid, but you know what I mean, he don't
really get mad because he get to the bag and
the bags get to him. So what when you think
underrated and you just think of one of the people,

(01:27):
one of the pillars and hippop that never fades away.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
He always finds a way to get to the vault.
Got no money, ladies, and gentleman makes some noise for
Eric Serman. First of all, I like that. That's true,
and so was Joe that. It wasn't he fucking with me?
Wasn't you? Though? He ain't fucking with me? Right now?

(01:50):
You ain't? Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
That's a great intro, but you want to pull it back.
But got that pot.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
First of all, I ain't get the memo for the camel.
Y'all look like y'all joined Maga and ship.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
That's some other kid. You look like the Count of
Monty christ that's right there, and that's the Count of
Monty Christo.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Motherfucker looked like he killed the whole community right now?

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Is crazy, yo?

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Eric Sherman a genius. That's the words he missed out.
Your fucking genius. You're ahead of your He didn't say
the word genius. No, No, I'm trying to tell you something.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's time. His name is Eric she That shamey, But
that's how jobing. What do you want me to do?
You already through the flat. That's a legit fla. I've
been calling the Maryland Sherman people. I take that one back.
I take that back, and a lot of people that
that says mature. I don't correct everyding that said. Take

(03:00):
it back.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Back back the flag we wound Eric.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
The word I gotta use is genius ahead of his
time musically, production wise. Pause blows my mind to this
day when I listened to E. P. M.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
D appalled first damn, anybody knows that guy that you
motherfucker's got this camerau flog on your one.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Hold up the plates, hold up, let me come off
for to shoot the plates up.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Let me do a sidebar real quick. This is crazy.
So just for minutes, my go to right.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Not no more. We want to let me finish. Don't
do that. Let me finish. Joey, I'm gonna throw two flags.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Listen, I didn't give it a shot, right, So I
gave it a shot because the Just for Men wasn't
in CBS. So I see your ship, right, I said,
I don't know if Joey says is correct.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Number. Wait, okay, you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I get rewind right, I open up the box and
I'm like, oh ship, he got two for the price
of one, and.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
The now now now you got me?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
So now I try it, and I'm like, yo, this
ship is just as ill, but it lasts long.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's Rose voice. I've had color. Listen.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I'm here not to give you the plug that you
plugged all the time, but to tell niggas is the truth.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
See, I'm never going to show my grade girls like
He's like, Yo, you can show no liars.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
They're liars.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm never going to show what the market they want
you off the moti, off the top.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
This right here, the truth go back to the genius now.
But thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's the truth is the Rose Royce is double the
product and actually our numbers better than their number. Yeah,
with the you know from five you know I'm the
customer that and this pneumonia.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
You're free.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
So black and brown people who be breaking out, most
of them won't ever break out with our product. Some
other product makes people get bumps.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's a fact. It never happened to me. I've been
baking my ship since I'm twenty son, and you come
with a fucking ship the remover.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah you're the remove Like, Yo, you went all out, Yo,
kissed the you don't know about this part?

Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Kiss you ain't there?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
You know what I feel like right now, I feel
like Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Fuck you yeah, fuck you too.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Nah, it's it's the ship is the hottest ship smoking man?
I think nothing, it's not No, it's not hYP for
niggas and yeah yeah, CBS, Sally's.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know what I'm saying, Stop the shop?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah yeah, no, no, let's go man, kiss, Let's change
the subject again. Okay, Yes, I was involved in selling
over seventy million records. That means that when you count
all the albums up that I was involved in that
ended up at that type of number. I just want
to put that flex out there that I want to
talk about that.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
But why you think that people don't give you your
props or you're not really appreciated like you should be.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I think that again, if we would have had this
type of social media back then, it'll probably be more,
you know, more talked about, you know, probably you know,
but we didn't have it, so people just heard records.
It wasn't about the producer. It's about the artists. Nobody
know who made shit. No until Pete Rock we mixed,
you knew about that though, But as far as the

(06:45):
actual production, So when me and Paris came in we
thought that we everybody that we heard made they songs.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I didn't know what the producer was.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I just made the records because we had the rhyme
on it, so we you know, we made the songs.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Afterwards, we were like, y'all producers. We had no clue.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
We thought that anybody we heard made their records.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I believe that because you know a flow Joe.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I did flow Joe all three verses and hooks without
a punch.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
I didn't know what a punch was. So everybody knows
fat Joe. And then when it come everybody, you gotta
float Joe. They in the booth with me, you gotta
flow Joe. Everybody knows said I didn't know what a punchy.
You came from the studio.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Me and Palace came from side by side in the
mic like this, wow, like this. So so we didn't
have no we didn't have studios. We didn't have enough money. Yeah,
we didn't have enough tracks. So we had to do that.
When it got time to do the mixing, you would
go up and down if I was lower, higher, whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
But this is what we did. You know, like this,
there was no other nothing.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
You guys made some of the greatest music ever created.
I remember me hustling, me in the street, me taking
They had these caves called OJ's. Right, So in the
Bronx you could rent the OJ for twenty five dollars
an hour. Right, So when you when you was hustling
and you made enough money, if you ain't own shit yet,
I'm talking about crack error. It wasn't a heroine, it

(08:18):
wasn't big money. You rent the OJ for four hours.
So a guy like Jada was just smoking weed, chilling me.
I'm in the back. No, no, I'm just saying, that's
the boy. Guys you're smoking that. He likes smoking. He
liked smoking that ship. He would have been in the
old j smoking his ship. They would have been driving
him around. You listening to hip hop. I'm going to

(08:39):
Spanish Hall to see my girlfriend over there and all
one O six and first and the OJ, the Beman shit.
But I'm pumping EBM D. It's a different you know,
when you ain't got it but you're just getting it,
and you're selling a couple of cracks making three hundred dollars,
and you know what I'm saying, You ain't really got it,
but you sitting in the back of a bean with

(09:00):
you stick in your face. You know how the dogs
stick the face out in the car to get the air.
Who's sticking your face out the ship listening to EPMD
kid and play SO eighty eight Biz Markey and say, hey,
you know what I'm saying? Those are classic times for me.
I like to know that you too young, You're symbol.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
No, no, you know what?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Who rest in peace? Tom g He was like an
ill one of my illest uncles, and he had the
white celleka cells that picked me up. The system was crazy.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Take me Downtown one hundred and twenty fifth Street, it's
the mixtape rocking well all of that get something and
he I remember one of his favorite tapes, that ship
It's my thing on it got just playing and I'm like,
this is my shame. I just told him play it
all the way back to yockeys in I remember that

(09:55):
and I got all.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
The yell give music, selection of samples. Where does that
come from? Your mom's your pat Yeah, my dad had
a bunch of records.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
One thing about me and Pirates is nobody would never
believe it though, but we didn't. We didn't know about
digging you know, as far as you know, going to
get records, have record stores, we long on. We don't
have that type of situation whatever was infirm of them speakers,
because you don't forget. Back then the records was against
the against the wall unit, so whatever that was over there,

(10:24):
we took to the studio.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Paris had his crib. He took to the studio.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
So the records that was there was again Parliament of course,
you know Earth with the Fire, BT Express, the whole
non So what you hear?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
What's what you say in Jane Brown? You hear? Do
you hear?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
You got the whispers, you got pair of the bell
you got you know, just those type of records or
for the fire, you know whatever you got those one
record we got from the label when we signed the
statement back of records we got from that was sitting
underneath their record player, you know, so there was no digging.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Whatever that was in at the crib is what we sampled. Man,
that was the best samplings. And it's my thing too.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Of course Brave Peasts was out too back then, so
prohaps with the DJ he had those, so we had
the breaks. That's where Jane came from. That's Joe text
this is my Things that mins a punk, the whole nine.
But again, we made these songs and we didn't know
how to make a chorus, so our records was just
going like this. The label called Ted Teddy Special k

(11:25):
to come to Long Island. He says, give me that
record you that you sampled, this is my thing from
So seven is a funk, right because we just got
to sample going boom boom, boom boom going it's my
thing going, none of it, no, no antics, no nothing.
They come in and they get to the part where
it goes particular particular between Ben Ben Ben Fan, So

(11:48):
I'm like, okay. They had to end, and when the
chorus is coming in, That's when I learned how to
make a chorus.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Before that, I had no clue. So I owed him.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
That because now when I when I'm making you a customer,
now I'm going get down, get down, But time keeps
on stipping, so I'm knowing how to format.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Now how does he bem dc Redman? How does Eric
Sherman be Redman?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
We had to show at CLEB Sensations in New New Jersey,
which is like being in Brooklyn or being someplace where
we know what.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
The bridge.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, up to the pre sensations, though, you can get
robbed in that place. So we go backstage and I
see do it all from those underground He rhyme for me,
a defense rhyme. He said, you're my DJ. Rhyme right
it is Reggie. No, So Reggie said, well he was

(12:47):
the DJ he was in. Yeah, so before those the
underground this was. I said, go ahead and say something.
He says, I felt like a butterflies, thing like the
rock roll. He didn't say Muhammad Ali. So I stopped
them immediately, put him on stage that night.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Didn't even know him.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now, the crowd saying, yo, what's redman doing up there?
There's people that I knew him for knew it. But
that's how my thing was. I already knew it was
special because he didn't say thing like Muhammad Ali. He said,
float like a butterflies, thing like the rock grew. When
I first met Murray, it took one of them lines,
let's squash the beef, cook it and we all can
get fat. So all I saw was my hamburger, so

(13:30):
and so rising whatever with the bet whatever in my
head metaphors. That's why when when I when nas came
to me when he was doing Ellmatic. I gave him
seedless beats because I didn't understand Queensbridge because my rhymes
was when a sp e l L solo, that's effects

(13:50):
wigod wow redman. I got a's bitch withevers. So these
are metaphor people. My only regret not to go in someplace. Eh,
that's great, me not taking nods seriously because when he
left me, he went to Pete Rocks house.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
You had a chance to do that, to be on that.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
And I want to put this out here too for
those who don't know about this, only Jaden exactly. Somebody
brought a Biggie Small to the barber shop Brooklyn and
listened to him.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
You should get a tattoo of two strikes on y'all. Yeah, yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Fuck, I'm sorry, Eric, sure, okay again fuck. So this
is two mistakes Illmatic. I could have been on big Yeah.
I wasn't paying attention to him. I went to Staten
Allen because but no father was a pastor the state Allen.
I got a picture with me and Wu Tang in

(14:52):
nineteen eighty nine with all them on my irock. You
I mean Paris had twin Irocks right, took a picture
me and Ray Kwan went to go said his name
was his name is charl Lade and we sat down
or on his steps of his building. I was gonna
sign Ray Kwan. He talks about that too. I couldn't
have wu tank plan. Then my mom, I'm too young

(15:12):
for that. I get it, so teflon Rick Ross, I
had Tony Jacob put him to my crib. Rick Ross
slipped in my basement for months. I didn't take him seriously,
taken rhyme. This is just rappers that I had. It's
right the time when you're feeling like you're gonna put
an artist out of work with him, or you could

(15:34):
be going through other ship where you just not focused
on I'm already got money, I got my own groups,
so again I'm gonna I'm gonna help you, but my
focus wasn't there. I'm living next door to Corey Rooney.
He knocks on my door and next to him is
Curtis Jackson. Curtis Jackson comes in, We go in the basement,

(15:56):
we make five records and then we make heat waves.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
You dude, like, what do you do that?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
That was his first single before he got shot, so
that two was again they brung that to me, but
something happened.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
He's just the rappers that came to me first.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Ludicrous knocked on my door for a month in a
landlanda when at but again I looked at him as Reggie,
so I didn't take it seriously.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Me the two at the.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Time, My boy d Mac brung the game to Fox
Hills Mall. I told Game spirit at sixteen. He didn't
know what the sixteen was. Go to Vibe magazine, you know,
on cap whatever. He tells the people. Yeah, I was
gonna sign with Eric, but he wasn't ready. I'm gonna
keep going on rappers. I mean, I don't know that

(16:46):
many people that got my story of those mcs that
came to me, who know first that I could.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Have added, But you know I could have signed the
crew you did a symbol.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Red Man, keep married case solo, effects, dods effects you
you signed?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
They want effects? That's Eric Sherman.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
B I'm in the chorus the live effects, some live
that's me in the chorus.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Let me tell you something. Their second single, they say,
in case you didn't know my flows fat like Joe
like Joe, Why you still love that kiss.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Kiss is throwing flesh. Come on now, take them his back, man. Yeah,
but I ain't know that.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
I did not know that dozz effects. So when you
did all the possible, everybody know hit Maker, listen right
six months I had him in the crib or hit
Maker six months. Talk about that story too. I gotta
I gotta remember the people. It's a lot of people.
I gotta flex one time because I don't talk. There's
no body like me. I don't give who out there

(17:58):
when it comes to know, when it comes to listen,
because again, people talk about sit and niggas don't talk.
I'm talking now for go to hip hop, my R
and B, M Vogue, Joessy, Mary j Blosse, Chico de Barge,
D'Angelo for fucking Keith Sweat, fucking Brownstone, Angie Stone. This
is I've been doing. I was doing R and B

(18:19):
as much as I was doing hip hop records. But again,
if you don't know Black Street or Booty Call, that
was my day first single. It's no everybody called me.
When I was doing Black Street, Pharrell was in the corner.
I got It's a record on YouTube right now. But
I let Pharrell rap with with somebody. It's called Bootnocolization.

(18:39):
I know it's an ill name, but but again that's
a that's a that's a poor and again but again
I looked at Pharrell and I was gonna do that,
but I took Dave Hollister from Black Street. Dave Hollister
was the man, and I did the first two albums
and then too a far So hunting niggas. Though they
look over that, you know, like, this is this is

(19:01):
They're not me a nigga looking for who out there?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Them niggas. I hear him talk.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I gotta do it on y'all show because again, y'all
had big names. Cali, it cardy uh, you know this
is this is Seerra, this is big names.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
On this show.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
You got the biggest, the biggest, like water and you
know there's names shutting them down.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
No, but listen, I just don't know. No, no, no, no,
This show right here is out of control.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
And whenever I try to do a favor, it's like
it's a favor, right. So there's certain people who are legends,
wat whatever, but I already know the people we turned down,
So when they come I'm like, how do I sneak
them on this motherfucker they snuck up the two Jewish
guys on me Jada kissing. These motherfuckers. Two Jewish guys

(19:47):
came up on it. They sat in here they did
that show.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
No motherfuckers stuck up on this shit. Like I said,
what the fuck is going on here? They shut down.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Jewish guys came with their own mic niggas, sat down,
they had they don't.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like, Yo, this this that?

Speaker 9 (20:09):
This?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I said, Yo, how these motherfuckers for neess dad?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
This is a heavily secured building. How they finessed it?
They came. I didn't know somebody is right, Yeah, I
knew the fix was in. But you know, I'm cool.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
I'm cool with every everybody getting they shine, everybody getting
the spot.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
The show is big.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So again you you know the pause, but listen, you
know what, why am I doing this? I'm not even
with that. No no, no, no, no no no, why
because this show?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Because you do it?

Speaker 10 (20:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, you do? Problem with is his favorite choice of
meal at the at a concert or okay? Nah? Yeah,
I mean it was good though. Culture You see big
Daddy came bolting himself, eating the glitz.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
They starting to ship. Yeah, yeah, it was different different,
that's no a sighth for God. They show that was
a Hebrew national. Who's just on site? Who changed the
word from the hot dog?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Pause? Who changed it? New generation?

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Okay, well the new generation got everything. Fuck they are here.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
You can't wear Air Force ones now Force ones his
grandfather sneaking.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I don't care what they say. We worked in the hospital.
You try to bolish. This is the first time. You
can't do that. Evil Why you look you say? Fuck
you right?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
This is the first time in my life they can
do the dumbest ship you've ever seen, paint their hair
or wild ship.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
I don't whatever they do. I'm like, God blessed. The
Air Force is the old man. Fuck you because they
stop being Did they stop be your money? You did
they stop being your money? Give a fuck about high
stiff and the money. It's just now is listen?

Speaker 11 (21:54):
I know?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Thanks overtime over time. You know what Mark Wahlberg tells me.
What Sevester Salon to us. Bill, Okay, olive bread, old townsmen.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Joe, go ahead, Joe, who want me to flex or not?
This is what this ship is? Yes, big up yourself,
Yes you have freedom.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Joe.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
The podcast allows you to have a freedom. You have
no boss, you need freedom. Stephen A. Smith came to
sat there and was like, Yo, you guys are envy
you guys because I work for a big corporate company.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You guys up here, you could do whatever the fuck
you want to have freedom. That's what this show is about,
is having freedom. We could talk about whatever the fuck
we want to talk about. It serving state. It's a
visible line, you know.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
And so my thing is my thing is right what's
going on right now? It happened at every level, you know,
when we'se kids. Unfortunately, I'm sorry everybody. When we was
coming up, we're young gangsters fourteen fifteen, we had to
beat up the guys. There was legends that was already
twenty one, twenty two years old in order to get
a name out there. That's how you make your name

(23:07):
in the street. So I see what the young kids
are doing. They're like, man, fuck, these guys are trying
to run ship today, one hundred years old.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Let's start with the Air Force.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Oh man, ship, they're trying to date us and we
are here told about nine. We trying to still get
the bag right now, like you trying to you know,
they're doing that. They're trying to consciously. The youth is
consciously trying to make us old niggas.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
That's it. They trying.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
They do it, and they they do it. They've won
that age a lot. Yeah, but we don't care be
kicking with music too. They be like, you know you
rhyme and steles or you. It's like this man wrap circles.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah. I know they don't end. Yeah, I know, but
they do that for some reason.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
It rich over.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm saying, rich you lost the battle. I'm can't stop
my nigga.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, that's one thing that Joe Golls wanted that you
knows about that bread No, I just I don't let
people know right now.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Don't don't come for me.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Somebody tried to come for me because I don't speak
about money, right.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I fucked around and went on drink chances made a mistake.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I was trying to teach the kids about only their publishing, right,
about what you can if it comes back to you.
You know what I'm saying, what can happen so when
we can sample the record. I was making the money
from Mario winings.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I don't want to know anyway, I probably was making
like one hundred thousand dolls and.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Back then, but the weekend one of the biggest streaming
hours in the world stream one point nine billion streams.
So my check was touring in for the grand every
three months, right for four percent only.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
For that, right for that. No, I don't cap on nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
So you got bread, so no, you no, but no,
but I don't you talk about So if I don't
have it, then you don't know I don't have it.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I've been buying houses since I was twenty. This is
not this is a flex. I've been rocking the bouge
scince I was eighteen. This is not something that that
was since it was new. As far as how people
talk about things about whatever I had, I had, I
was buying houses in Atlanta. I wasn't even living in
apartments the whole Non. I never even saw them look
at certain things because you don't. It's not a rocket scientist.

(25:23):
And no, if you look at Okay, here's the deals
that Eric is making in these companies. Okay, just Murray's
at Jive, but he's at depth jam of farmers that
dream works this and now whatever, how farmers at e
M I.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
So if you see me on that. Then I got
my own group. Right.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
So now these are all these advances, I own, all
the published I got owned my publisher. Now, so all
this stuff you look at whatever. Not a rocket scientists.
But I don't have to tell you that. But if
you're going to look at it, and you look at it.
But I know one thing that I determined the long
time ago. Young cats only respect the back. Right now, if.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
You are broke, nice nigger, they ain't even giving it up,
they not, they not.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
They looking past you. The only thing they respect. When
I see little Lotto, young Lotto, she'd be like you
get When I see these youngs, the ones that do
respect me, they be like the young ones are getting
it though, That's what I'm saying. Do they came into
time where the money is heavy for them? They It
wasn't like that for us. The husbled Joe I got

(26:31):
it was number one in the country. I was getting
five hundred dollars a show doing the Chitlin Circuit, Philly,
the Bronx Yonkers next week, Virginia d C the fucking
North Cat like you know, fifteen hundred like yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
His first record deal was fifteen hundred dollars. I got
PaaS got seven fifty. I got seven fifty. I went
to Marshalls and then I went to the grocery store.
That means, think Sidney, they want to kid up with me.
They bought they caught their advance and they bought a
kid coach took it up the Yonkeert Baltimore, Baltimore, y'all

(27:08):
did he did see the story?

Speaker 12 (27:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm telling Baltimore. It wasn't so feasible, right, And six
thousands for three people ain't so feasible. I know what
I'm saying. I'm not against Wait, wait, what year was that? Though?
Ninety something? Nervous? Three thousands, that's so ain't a lot
of nothing. I don't know lot of.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Well, my first apartment was six fifty a month, one
one one, one bedroom, one baths. You know what I'm saying.
I ain't had no furniture on there or nothing like that.
But you know, I was out the hood. I was
in Uh where's Rod's Nick? In the Bronx losses like
a mansion.

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Speaker 1 (29:36):
That Joe, the apartment that we had in Jersey, I
had won them too, never spent one day.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
In it, never did now one day. Man, I was
jealous because you already you know. I moved to Miami
twenty seven years ago, my big one of my biggest
you know how you say you could have signed, Yeah,
one of my biggest decisions. I don't regret Miami, but
within myself, when I land in Atlanta, I feel like
I'm at home.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Birds chirping. I love it.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I love the people, I love the atmosphere, I love
the food. I love everything about Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
And I always.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Wondered, did I make the right move when I moved
to Miami rather than Atlanta. If I would have went
to Atlanta, I would have signed all of them right
the future, that this way right right, right, and everybody
would have cleaned house in that bitch. They would have
been calling me, you know, the king or something because
I was signing. I signed, DJ Cally signed Big Pun,

(30:36):
I signed, Remy Man could have signed, Eminem, could have signed,
Rick Walls could have signed, pit Bull could have The
list is going smoke right, but in Atlanta, we gotta
get Smoky to wear some rewind if Smoky could do it.
Let me tell you something. You know, any good thing,

(31:02):
they laugh at you while you're doing it, and then
when you get that bag, they come to tell.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
You how much of a genius you are.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
They said, Yo, man, you man, you always know, Joe,
you always know when when when they hear this ship,
the type of numbers this ship doing, they're gonna be like,
and I've been keeping everything right. No, but we are
number one. And cvyes were the number one product or CVS.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
The number one. I just mentioned it to you. No, no,
but the number one. Okay. You could buy tooth brushes,
you could buy medicine, you could buy this, this, this,
that ships smoking.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Them number one. The other brand you mentioned got seventies.
The other brand you mentioned, their boxes got seventies. Porn
stars you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
The motherfucker, the ballfucker outdated Flabby just that new ship.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yo, I'm telling you no, I just I told you
about it. I'm working. I don't give a fuck. Now
you want to talk about my error. I came in
the game, jay Z nas just justin. No no, no, no,
Clo Joe was early man. Yeah, but it's the same
hero no way before jay Z jay Z. This is

(32:17):
ninety ninety six. Hoo, I'm ninety three. Okay, Well, what
I'm trying to tell you if I came in there
when I was ready in the game making my five hundred,
making my five hundred dollars, these guys came into the
game young. I watched them bill Billion Dollar Empires. I
watched Puff that Puff Daddy had the most visible see

(32:41):
through chain you ever seen in your life when I
met I met puff Daddy when he was promoting parties
before Biggie Smalls, before he had anything. So he used
to run up to me when I was in my
beams and business. Yo, he's my flyer when he's promoting clubs.
You mean back, Yeah, here's my flyer buddy for my party.
And this I watched these guys built billion dollar empires,

(33:03):
and I finally had to sit back and go, Yo,
it's time to invest, it's time to bring out products,
it's time to hum m you could love. It's trying
to do real business, you know. And so that's why
I'm behind the eight ball. When you talk about the
people I watch come in after me and fucking get
to the back to the bag, bag bag.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
But nobody taught us. See if you didn't do that,
nobody was told you shit. Nobody taught us. Those people
just happened to know. My man told me to make
clothes after Karl Kannai. I looked him like he was
crazy making clothes up. I'm a rapper. I make music,
you know. But he had the idea. But I never
looked at it like that.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Was a lot to do with it too, when you
felt like, you know, my brother rec of Peace, Raoul
was almost two years since he passed, but he had
a lot Raoul told me, because Raoul was the cameraman,
Raoul told me something that I thought was the dumbest
shake you ever heard. Even like you said, bro, every
time you perform us, see you drinking water, why don't

(34:07):
we sell water?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
This is before anybody sold water. Fuck hip hop. I'm
not talking about biting water.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Water used to get for free from the pump, from
the fucking water machine. This then Nigga was like, Yo,
we should sell water. I'm like, man, nobody does that
sound crazy? Fucking water?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Nigga like water, water is free?

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Nah, I'm telling you if you sold what he had
a couple of ideas prematurely.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I had a time that we didn't take serious. How
we took him serious.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
I mean when I go to his uh to the
grave all the time, I always tell him, I say, yo, Raoul, man,
you really have some ideas. Like he has some ideas.
It could have put us in the game a long
time ago. But we we ain't really listen to him.
You know what I'm saying. We wasn't thinking on that level.
We was trying to be rappers.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Right, because you had an idea for a long time.
You for you did that.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
My dad he was in coffee for my whole right, Okay,
foods early back in the day. He was always telling me, Yo,
you gotta do you own we gotta do I was
I was brushing them off.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
We thought we know, I tell him ship he don't
listen to me. You know, my man came to get me.
My man came to give me. John Singleton came to
get me to.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Be the name kiss.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I was supposed to man People's shot. John Singleton was
in the Bronx, Jimmy's Bronx got faith every day in
the movie shot.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I was being glory. I had to do something, so
I told themself, hold.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Show Joe, what's wrong with d man. They're telling you
the truth. I had so many opportunities I was. I
was too busy being the Jimmy's being a rapper. I
was like, yo, acting, I don't get even to this day.
My sister Brett Me, she's doing the movie right now.
I feel bad for her. I'm like, damn, that's the
She's like, yeah, eighteen hour days and like acting is

(35:58):
almost torture. It's like it's fun, it's great. I think
it lasts longer than the music. To be honest with you,
you have like a fucking hit movie, like if you have.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Like, hey, Joe, I'm not mad the movies with you
on the sofa with the gun in the sofa, the
I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad as you
two in the jail on the camera when when you
were talking like see, I fucked with you with them
since b but you know what happened.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I had a minute and juice be I was a star.
Did they rob me? But I was a stop in
the far and droud. But my thing is, I love
those moments, right, shout out, she's got a abit. I
love those moments.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
The problem is I'm not the boss right, so right
now we joking and were like, y'all, let's go over there.
Is like they was waking me up six in the
morning and my scene was at ten at night.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
For fucking uh yo.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
They were slaving me be and then I'll get to
the hotel like you remember how your dad used to
go home, like sleep with the clothes on this ship,
And that's what I was doing. And then it wake
me back up five thirty six o'clock. The van's coming
to get y'all do the same ship.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I go over there and wait clock at night to
shoot the saying they had Joe Krack the rapper.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
You know, I remember your man used to pick on me.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Kevin Harbles, come, you always say the studio you ain't rapping,
Wake up. I'm like, oh, shit Like the acting is
a whole different type of what they do to you.
But I love the fil just right here is tangible.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Now for those who don't know, I got to come
to call death rugs that I've been doing the rugs
for eight years.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Oh y'all got my rugs, everybody, that's one of y'all.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I don't know if you got if you I got
it jo Yo yeah again right see, I'm wanna do
the flex thing. I gotta just too niggas talk about
what they do with the niggas is not me, nigga
ain't know. Mean I gotta deal with Beleivi's that come
out January. You know, na just did they signed two people?
It's they did him. They did the E P and
D Right.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I need that. I mean, we gotta buy that Danny.
I know that shit gonna be crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Have a Netflix not Netflix Stars documentary series called eighty
eight first that's coming in February.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Right, Wow, I want to see that.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
This is the silent part of whatever, because this is
how the quiet because I'm an introvert at first, but
on this show is where I decided to say, Okay,
you know what, because you brung it up of underratedness.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
So I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
You know, they don't hear me speaking, So I'm speaking now,
and since this is what you not have to do
what people are doing, I'm doing minds that this.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
This is your home. You know what's crazy? Daylight Soul
came in. They kept laughing. He was like, Yo, this
is my favorite show. I can't believe I'm sitting here.

Speaker 9 (38:45):
No it is.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
It's sitting that my favorite show. They're sitting there like, Yo,
I'm looking at my favorite show. What the fuck are
you doing here?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yo? This is great. This is your house.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Everybody that knew on my schedule right and gonna miss
all the names too.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
When this name came up, they were like, oh word, yeah,
this is what it is. We the realists, were the
most authentic. We're the most realists. We're preserving of our
fucking on.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Us to do this, say that.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
We paid homage to the true legends. We got you
right now, we got Bill Bellamy. We ain't fronting on
the legends.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
This is water. This is liquid. I got you. Come
and hear you lay on the couch and do what
the fuck you want. This is your house. This is
the house that you built. Me and him. We just here.
It's during the time we get to sit with our
legs navigated. Yeah, and it's different levels of legends. Dela
Sol come here, you come here.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
I start by saying, you're a genius, right, I mean
to the people who who don't think I'm capped and
take my word for anything, I told them, it's a
fucking genius was.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Even able to do. It's out of this world.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Like I'm amazed, you know, I get amazed by some
of the guests that come here like you, and I
say here and every time I talk to you, I
know you always quiet, you mind your business, but you
know you put in that pain in this game.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
The shout out my brother Opie Megatron man. He plays
e pm D every day. He puts you on his
Instagram every fucking day. And certain Peace really love you, man, Opie,
love you man. Everybody people really really love you. And
your contributions to the game ain't for you. We ain't
got no red men or.

Speaker 13 (40:28):
Some man name.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
He passed away. I think he was used to be
with you back in the days. He was roll manager,
big guy.

Speaker 14 (40:37):
Oh aving Tony. How you know Elvin? He started somehow
we got somehow. I don't know if he was doing
promoto that somehow I did a future.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Oh you did, but didn you do some work with
the boss wrapping somebody? I remember that habits Yo, I
got Jay kiss on some on the record. I'm like, no,
you didn't.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
You can't get j him?

Speaker 1 (41:03):
What No, you can't get here get listen now, I'm
glad you what this up? This nigga right here? Yo,
yo Joe. Let's talk about it, yo yo listen, Yo,
listen Joe Yo. Yo's sing it? Yo yo yo eating it?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Whatever? Yo? I got you one month, two months, three months? Yo?
What up?

Speaker 12 (41:29):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
He said it? We're talking about Jada. Yes, oh no, No,
he's the hardest. He's the hardest, and I remember.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
No, but.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Okay, I had to track this guy down into the studio.
I had to call d from the Rough Riders like
I had, oh my him in the studio.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I thought it was just me. It was the hardest
record out My lifestyle was this ship. And I was like, yo,
I need like it was like, what you get Jada
kiss y'all?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
You know he just left on that be Yeah you
don't yeah, yeah, this kiss when you see it in
that one in this one too. In this ship yo yo,
when you get hold of rewind the tail be yo yo, man,
he's specs you on the phone the okay yo.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I got you.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Who's some other guys who've okayed you and never showed
up like t I? T I is one on the
text yo, he sent it no response? You know, man, listen,
I was one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I make a lot of you. He was one too, he.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Kanye West told me. Snoop told me one time this
that that didn't know. So I didn't even get mad
because I was that person at one time. You know,
didn't do it on purpose. Maybe something's going on at
the time, but so I can't get mad at him.
I couldn't get mad at such a I thought nor
he did it one time, but when it went straight
to my email, I would have never known because it

(42:59):
didn't tell me on the phone that I got an email.
So I'm like, no, yo, damn I hit you a
month ago?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
What was eric? I?

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Ben sent that so again on the email? Yeah, it
was in the email. You know your artists say Remy,
remy with me DMX. He would tell her he's gonna
do a song and one and should come back. This
is a young Remy and come back. And I'd be like,
I said, Yo, he ain't doing this. I'd be like,
you know, it's certain artists you would meet. That's what

(43:28):
happened with me when I met R.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Kelly. Kelly, you made the hit right here, but R.
Kelly came to me.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
I seen him All Star Weekend. He said, Yo, Joe,
I want to work with you. I said, brother, do
not lie to me. I said, Kels, don't lie to me.
I'm not the guy. I was still very ghetto, so
I was like, Yo, don't lie to me. Say three
Fat Joes Ago and fucking twenty four chin chillers a girl.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I was chilling out like this chiller hold up? What
year was that?

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I don't know because I was batting with you on
the radio with records, with that hit record. I think
it was two thousand and one, two two. Either I
was vattling with you with music or either react. But
for some reason he was on to tart me and
you San Paul and Missy ballin Big Boys two thousand
and two, like that week two thousand and one.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Okay, so two wasn't one on me? Lead them Philly
all star. He told me gonna do a song with me.
I'm like, yo, bro, don't lie the like. I was
just way too ghetto at that time. And I went
down or Land or we cut it. You know what
I'm saying. Song changed my life. But you know, we're
talking about guys who you meet and you swear you're
gonna do a song with then they disappear. And I

(44:44):
used to have like Remy would come up to a
couple of guys that come up to me and be like, Yo,
I met such and such. He said, he's doing the
song with me. Be I'm like, bro wish upon a
green clover.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
She said.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
He said, Remy My DMX said he was gonna do
a record with us mature and man young.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I was like, she could have got that, but Joe said,
hell no, that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
He did it to Tone Sunshine, Love Tone Sunshine like Tony,
Oh my God, you and Tony went to La hung
out with that dude for like a fucking week.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
When he went to do the verse, he fell asleep
in the booth. Some shit. Tone was like, yo, send
me home, God like, like, I can't do it no more.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
After sixty games of pool and this and that and
motherfucker riding his cars and all that tone was like, yo,
send me, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
You know what I'm saying. Sometimes listen, man, I was
one of them. Be easy. So so I know no no, no,
no no, but but but no no kiss, but you
missed it. I was one of them. That's why I
don't even look at it. I was one of them.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I promise you niggas will say. I was like yo,
and and it'd be production most of the time. Sometimes
I'd be like I just didn't do it. But no, Alexander,
he saved my life.

Speaker 8 (46:00):
I was.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I was already told me about that. About the money.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
Yeah, Like I was in the Bronx kicked up and
I refused to move even though I was in the
nicer party was still one and one.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
And now my wife was like, Yo, we got to
get out of here.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
All these strange cars keep coming around here and this
and this and that, and so I hit a banar.
But I was like, come to Jersey, bro, we'll be
over here. It was brand new, changed my life, brand new.
It was a townhouse water Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Inside that building, kiss, it was me Joe Dave Haster
too short ended up moving over there.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
So it was one of those crazy as I knew
they was hot.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
Fifty cent after fifty cent got I'm waiting for Oh
they drove me to the pogram and he's coming right,
but he don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I knew where he was at. You know what I'm saying,
but you know, but yeah, but I was man, Yeah,
it was none of my business. Oh yeah, time.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I didn't really know either side or whatever. And they
was like, y'all city just got to hit up.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'm taking.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
I was like, a you know what I'm saying, Like
what you want me to do? They had, you know,
we had a good time over there, talk about the
new product. Good okay, okay, we had enough because we flexed.
Jay went to the bathroom because you want to hear
by himself. And then we had the product promoted and

(47:23):
you flexed about what's the new project? You got the
Eddie Murphy ship where you can close the roof. No
Eddie Murphy, let me tell you that doctionmentary. That's how
I want to see my old gs now after you
we have Bill Bellamy. That's really what I wanted to
I don't want to talk to you about Eddie Murphy.
But I watched you saw the Eddie Murphy documentary. That

(47:46):
ship was fired, and that's how I want to see
my old g's big city.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
We never saw him flex before, like, ah, the motherfucker's
dying broke and all this and this and that. I'm
just happy, yo, you know nobody, I keep telling you,
we're not thought. If we was taught little see about
money and how to do certain things. Paris was the
one that showed me about homes because he bought them first.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Early.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I'm like, you know, what are you doing, you know
with the with the houses and stuff. I didn't have
no house at first he did. I had an apartment
and I ain't know. And then Burt Pidell was everybody's accountant.
So Burt Pidell was doing what he can do.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
But he was a crook.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
No Burt will just get you what you needed. But
he was switching the he was switching your social numbers
back then. So the crook, and you're gonna take a
piss break your.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I want to yeah, I want to hear with Burke
was doing.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Now Bert the bank was in the downstairs. So say
if you're young and you're new. See, I didn't My
social number wasn't the social number that he had. So
I got to go get a Social Security card with
my mom's one time, and it was a different number.

(49:08):
That's when I noticed, Okay, before you heard about the
scams of getting dead people getting whatever like that, that's
what was happening. So if I wanted the new bends
or home or something like that, I didn't have credit.
But here you got credit now because here's the new
social It wasn't said like that until you look at it,
you know what I'm saying. But that was, you know,

(49:31):
again something that we didn't We didn't know until later.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Aces was hit and then early already Yeah, but we
didn't know. We didn't know.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
He had every client, every everybody was with everyone, actors
to whatever it was, was in. But when I went
to get a new Social Security card and it was
a whole different number, and then I found out, okay,
this is how you can get things with these socials.

(50:03):
When I got when I learned stuff. But again, being
being taught about money, we don't know about money. Everybody
had the same program lawyer, accounted, business management, the whole
nine I know the lawyer was working with the label
until later on. No matter how funny they speak to you,
everybody is in co oo's with with each other. So

(50:23):
this is how it works. But you didn't learn that.
You think everybody is just cool. But the business is
it is a business, you know, and you file out
later on. So that's how people get stuck and we
get irs and we you know, people go to prison
and go to jail for such and such for not
doing that. Uncle Sam is real. You don't pay and
people don't file. If you file, you don't. It's like

(50:47):
you're not ducking. But if you file, then you and
the good. But when you don't tell you, when you
don't say nothing, not when they come and get you.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Get you. When they came to got me perfect time
counting fu to me.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Man.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
I had an attorney that I really trusted and I
really really loved, went to his kids, boy missus, family cookouts.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
This this that.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
My accountant that I had, his son became a quadriplegiate.
So he had to tend to his son because he
was in an accident. So my attorney there I trusted
in love forever, introduced me to an accountant. This account
is the guy who stole my money and I eventually
went to jail for so I never fucked with this

(51:41):
guy again. My lawyer, I told him, Yo, bro, I
can't fuck with you no more. You set me up
with this guy. Now I seen him yesterday.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I'm in Miami. I got a private show for Harbor
of View all of.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
You.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
No, I'm there, boy, har of you baby in this
Scotia rees. So it's like I'm up in there. You know,
Laura Piana. You know they said big money was in
the building. So I had to throw the lord.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I don't even know who that is.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
What was that hud Don't buy a fucking don't buy
a handkerchief in that bitch. That shit real deal, you
know what I'm talking about, Danny, that said another level.
But anyway, I come out the elevating, I see him.
I come out the elevating and I see him. Last
time I saw him was at Chris Lidy Rest in Peace.
If you knew he tried to talk to me, I

(52:34):
just came out of jail. It's like, Yo, my man,
don't talk to me. Don't don't don't come around me,
don't talk to me. Because he also disappeared when I
had the case, so boom. I seen him the other
day Saint Regis and Miami, and he was like, hey Joe,
and I said, what's up. I kept him moving after that,
and I don't think I'm over him introducing me to

(52:56):
the account who kind of destroyed my life and I
lost my money, went to jail. This this I just
you know, I try to be I was courteous to
your suck, but I still felt the way, you know
what I'm saying. I went upstairs to my room, I
was like, she did he set me up?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Did he not set me? You see, they go seek
the kingdom, seek the kingdom. Sometimes you got to smack
the ship out of somebody didn't seek the kick Yeah,
because you went to went to jail for jail.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
I also felt like I was somebody in my own
you know, they can say I'm delusional, but I felt
like I was somebody who never really got caught and
they wanted me for they was little big or something.
These boys wanted me, and I felt like somebody got
jammed up and they said, yo, who you got fat Joe?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Him? Get him? How could you give me him? In
the platter and the worst thing is you got somebody
you trust. That's how they get you.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
With somebody you really Really, this whole is as when
everybody works together the same way Spotify worked with the labels.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Got to put that out there with great, Yeah, somebody's
making some money.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Listen if the president of Spotify in twenty twenty four
he made three hundred million dollars. He don't own the company,
he is the president. He made three hundred million. We
think Spotify is getting so they're giving us ze point
four cent. Now Congress has passed the law. They've given
us one penny. Right, so one million, one million streams

(54:29):
gets you fourteen grand, right before one hundred thousand streams
that get you two hundred dollars. So all this whole
system is fucked up for us, for the labels and
the people who own Spotify. The president, not the owner,
Joe he made three hundred million dollars in twenty twenty four. Great,

(54:49):
and then he had a biggerne These guys all for yo.
Listen being crooked since the beginning of time? Oh you
made why it's been he made a one hundred million
points million and five.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
They take poor people, they got talent, They use them up,
and by the time they learn the game, they'll dust
you off and make you the old school at noon
to get the new young person the jerk. And they
just keep doing that and doing that and doing that,
and people like Spotify and all these people are.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
All everge who have made selling women made up the
point that fifteen hundred spins is one CD?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
So whoever made up the point that we only get
less than one cent? Fucking head? Yeah, one lesson less
than one cent though too, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
And then were getting a penny at least with the
labels signed to we got a quarter at least.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I said all the time, if you shall let me
ask you a hundreds, let me go right now. Fucked up?
I know, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Let me think satting. You put your pain, your soul,
everything into this. Let's say it's a CD. If you
sold it yourself on the corner for nine ninety nine
and somebody told you, who's gonna get eight cents, He's
not doing that.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
It don't work for fucking right right.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
This is the only business that glorifies you getting rot
in the minute you learn you've seen Prince with all
that slave.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Him. Alonda mc Millan was the first one that just
started to do it. The second he start going like this.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
I'm also looking forward to this Michael Jackson movie because
I think they're finally gonna start speaking truth to light
to where why he got attacked like that.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
You see, you gotta understand, we didn't know the.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Sophisticated ways of brainwashing the people and smearing people. They
smeared Michael Jackson the greatest of all time. They had
us thinking he was crazy right now, everybody rocking botts,
people bleaching their skin like there's some normal ship. People

(57:00):
sleeping and fucking what's my man forced with it?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Could sleep?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Yeah, you're right, right, Richer, you get you're doing what
Michael Jackson is doing right buying art.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
You thinking this guy's crazy weird? He actually was ahead
of his time.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
But even though we never thought Michael was getting jerked
though Pays, we didn't know that was happening.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah, but what I'm trying to tell you is that
you know what I'm saying, but we love jerk Michael
different kind of jerks, ye know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
But he for him to come out and say Timertoler's
get you know whatever, Like we never.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Thought that was Matola.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Tomtola's my But what I'm saying, Sony, he's saying that's nuts, Sony.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
My thing is, hold up, we're gonna go back. Michael
Jack's pro artists, man for the artists, not for the artists.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
And I also say, before you start one time, I
thought you was getting ready to say it's better.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Now. If only my eight thousand fans give me one dollar,
I made eight grand. That's more than me Spotify the
whole nine. Now if you give me. If I if
eight thousand people give me one hundred dollars, it's eight
hundred thousand dollars. Right at the end of the day.
If you have a name, why would you want to

(58:15):
go and do all that work on that album and
go put it on that platform. I don't understand, not
the people that's new, the people who have names. Don't
forget Joe. You can make a record right now. I
don't give fuck how big it is. It doesn't matter.
You already, Joe, you're already famous, you're already iconic. You're
not gonna get no bigger. The record's not gonna get

(58:35):
no bigger. They're gonna make no bigger record and they're
gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
You all ready you. But if you decide to make music,
why not selling yourself? You already you?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Where would you sell it? A like w You're doing
it on your your own platform. When I do the product,
when I'm doing whatever, whatever, You got fans. If eight
thousand people give me twenty dollars eight times, who is
sixteen it's one hundred and sixty grand, It doesn't matter.
Everything you can do direct to consume it is back now.

(59:07):
Every www is never left. That means whenever time somebody
goes on TV, every star, everybody with product, you gotta
go to a website.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
It's the same shit.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Go back to that, put that shop of fire in
that fucking fucking band camp on your shit and go yo,
go get my shit here and again let the platform
that take it. That's promotion. But at least you got
people listen. Ice Cream said that once he reached a million,
he wanted to reach two million.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Right sell records, but he left a million people back here.
That was his fans.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Your core fans ain't going nowhere. If you tell them
to do something, they're gonna so all of us here
that you went platinum. You don't need a million fans.
I said, eight thousand people give me two hundred dollars. Right,
it's one point six million dollars. They're gonna pay for
what you wanna give them. That means merchandise, the whole nine.
I got to preach that because again, that's what you

(01:00:03):
do if you selling material, if you if Be's selling
that though too. You know you again with a company
for the mattering. If you didn't your fat Joe, your kiss,
it doesn't matter. You do the marketing promotion on yourself
and bring them to your platform.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I like to learn new shit every day, and that's
what this shows.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I just give you the numbers, like Jay said, numbers
don't lie. It don't matter. They give you fifty bucks
eight thousand people. I'm not talking about Joe, you're millions
of fans. I said eight thousand, and give you fifty bucks.
Eight times five is four. That's four hundred thousand dollars
for only eight thousand people giving you fifty bucks. Talk

(01:00:44):
about money, Come on, man, you talk about that's why
people sitting here and be like, you want to go broke.
You don't want to do something here's how you don't
go broke. Here's how you have you know, you have
shit making money while you sleep them EPMD buckets, that's
while I'm sleeping. EPMD shirt is while I'm sleeping. The
money comes in while you sleep.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
That we got a new project, brother, telling people man,
because you've been philosophical today, so we really want you
to talk that that music the music. Well, I got
one question, Yeah, I got one question. So you sampled
Marvin Gay?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yes, right? How much did it cost you to same?
Two hundred thousand? It course it you two hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Right, because it caught me that because when Manad took
the CD and went to LA he went to a
convention that was happening with clear Channel. They played the record,
they added the record. So now hey, get to stick
me up. You're too fast. So it was one you
said to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
It was one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Jan God us dead the wife, and then was fifty
thousand dollars for the lawyer. But but it didn't matter
because Clive gave me four million. So so that whole
thing of how it went. I went to Jay Records
afterwards because Clive.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Wanted to sign me. The reason why I bring that
up right, because Pharrell getting sued.

Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
He didn't clear. That's it and what they got suit
for like seven million, seven or eight. Yeah, Farrell is smart,
little little no no, no, Well he's trying to run on. Yeah,
he interpolated the song he did. Listen, he said he
didn't know that. That's yeah, he's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Is this thing the same man you get caught? Yeah,
I don't know. It's the smartest thing that's said.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
But it's the dumbest thing when you know the fucking
planet Earth knew he jack Marvin Gate the whole fucking
what when you eat the same.

Speaker 14 (01:02:51):
Song, same song, it's just with the sender snow LOI yeah,
ago sena ship No no, no, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Hold up, well, why I'm back one hour? Wait for
these seven minutes thirty six seconds?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Got hold out. We ain't doing that. This is interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
What I'm saying is if I was around fer hour
to say, yo, settle with these people, because this it
is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
He was inspired by them, whether he do it. Yeah,
but listen, you're missing one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Ed Sherman ship sounded, Let's get it on and he
won play Ed Sherman's Marvin Gays whatever. It sounds just
like let's get on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
And he won. Let me tell you some crazy shit.
I didn't think he did. I went to the video tape,
no play the record.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I swear to god, I did. I went when he won,
just the same way. You tell me this man Sherman
and that, and you really make the same yo, yo,
yo yo, this is what yo. I swear, hold on,
hold on, hold up yo.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
When I watched this show, it's his reactions because that
what makes it mix.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Sure chemistry. I swear because he leans back and he
does this. I'm like, YO, tell you something.

Speaker 11 (01:04:08):
You know what there is?

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
This is the Honeymooners. Well, Ralph granted, because Art carn
let's talk about the project.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Now, let's go. It's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Okay, the dynamic duos. So I had it four years ago,
before COVID. I had the idea, before you heard NAS.
I figured that my colleagues wasn't working. I was wondering
why nobody was making records, right, So I kind of
got upset about that in my head, like you know what,
fuck it, I'm gonna make records for them if they
have studio problem. Nobody making no beat for them, the

(01:04:41):
whole nine. So COVID came, so that took two years off.
Kevin came and got me, Kevin Allows, so we did
the partnership at three hundred three hundred. Leo Cohen sells
it for four hundred fifty million dollars to Atlantic.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
That took a year in something. They're a nice check. Yeah,
but isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
See Leo got four point fifty from Allenic, which is
Mike and Julie people that he put there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Now that was the whole play keep going if you
can figure that one out. So so that was the
old WAT.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Yeah, that would sell to Styles Peace running phenomenal. Now
let me sell the Jada Kiss records to Styles Speak.
He got the bag over here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
He's gonna throw you the smither rings like yo. They
all ran now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
And now let me tell you someone he sold that ship.
Kevin Lows my next door neighbor. It was the first
sighting I saw Russell Simmons in like ten years that
it was next door. He called me in, Oh, come
next door. Everybody ran off with the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Their whole crew. They are the best that ever did it.
Kevin's that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Kevin Leo, the whole Julie Guyser they took care of everybody,
all of them, like I mean, bad Mania, all of
them is up to the wet.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
But what I'm saying is.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
They came in this game and said, all right, this
is our crew and we're gonna eat forever. Yeah, make
sure him and showed up. They was throwing like that
we sold the company for four hundred million. Because they
first said it was Kevin Lows. You know what I'm saying,
Leo Conan, I'm sure it was Kevin. You know they
were saying Kevin Lows. Kevin Lows threw a party. He

(01:06:27):
lives next door to me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Of course he got money, trust me, he got Kevin
Lyles lives one A. I'm one A. He's gonna beat.
His house is right next door to mine.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Russell Simmons's face times me out of no whay. I
ain't seen him in ten years. And he said, come
over with celebrating Kevin selling the company. I'm letting my
fat flow. I got no shirt on, know nothing. I
just put a T shirt on. I go over there
and put on my shorts. I go over there and
they celebrating, and I just the way I think. You

(01:07:00):
know what I mean now hustling me. I said, damn,
this man came over here to pick up bag they
sold where some Simmons came and picked up the bag
they just sold it. Check is in wires in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Russell came for fucking Malaysia or some shit to get
the bag and he's going back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Everybody's caked up, right, It's what I'm trying to take.
Every member of the crew caught something, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I designed that deal with Leo Well. I deal with
partners in AI now but has another flex but Hartness
and AI.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I went to his crib, right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
I looked at the picture on the wall was a
baby picture, me and my man with the papers. I said,
how with that picture? Because in my head I'm just
saying that it might course whatever. He said, Yeah, I
paid twelve grand for but it's worth five million.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
It was a picture of a baby. This and this up,
you know whatever. I want to put this out there, yo,
I'm a graffiti legend. I want to meet Banksy. Who's that?
Banksy's the illness artist? World number shows just fake yo.
You know I don't know what I don't know. Yah, okay, listen,
you don't believe nothing. Listen.

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
I didn't know why.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Wait, okay, listen, let's go back so dynamic dooh listen,
Let's listen listen.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Let me just get somebody know Banksy Fat Joe wants
to meet the real Banksy face to face. I don't rat,
I don't nothing. He's an artist. Nobody sees his face.
But I'm a huge fand we don't know why exact,
because then we would have found him in the UK,
and then it could be and then it could be
in Afghanistan wherever money banks He just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Okay, Well, banks Fat don't need you, okay one second? Okay.
So after that, the ship was three and a half
years so far.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
So now I do the Biggie smallest Tupac record, right,
So I get Biggie clear, but the Tupac estate. I
offered his sister one hundred thousand dollars. I give you
one hundred grands and you can keep the you can
keep the rights to the record. She didn't say yeah,
said I was say no, But she wasn't coming back
fast enough with the reaction. So I'm like, so, what's

(01:09:14):
going on. I found out that she was going through
it with Universal for them using Tupac music and making
money off of it in the move for you know
this period.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yeah, yeah, that too. So that delayed me. So, by
the way, as long as I wanted to because I
want to have that on the project. Right, So anyway, I.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Want to say, I don't know how I cleared Tupac
and his lawyer owns yeah at that time, but now
she's so and she she needed to get it, like
I did not understand when I was paying the lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Yeah, the one hundred, I would do every but no,
I called everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
That did the tulpoc before with with the RL ship
when you saw the video whatever. We went to those people.
We went to everybody nothing so that that gave more time.
I thought this mons fast. She must left to the lawyer.
I didn't have no clue. I didn't understand that. No,
how am my lawyer Rob Wafting things own stupid right,

(01:10:08):
So then I had Prodigy New Vocals the whole non
so or whatever. I called my lawyer he called, which
is you know, his friend Kevin. Then I talked to
Prizey's wife on the phone. She sounded like she was saying,
don't worry about I'm gonna check the record out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Whatever. I get back to you. Right, no call, I'm texting.
There's nothing there, you know. So I'm like, so that's
a hold up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
So I get that late. That took time. I called
Sean Price's wife. Then I talked to Drew. Hah, right,
she says, call Drew. You know I got jew number.
So but no it you know, good Goud, you just
called you. She just says, cool. I still took time,

(01:10:57):
Nate dogg estate. I gotta call this people and say
to do you want the money? This tell me a thing.
It just took time. Eventually they didn't want nothing. So
you see all these people on my on the album
that passed away. It takes time for the estates because
don't forget. If they can't find Kiss, then we gotta

(01:11:21):
wait to find Kiss. The estate means everybody on the
estate has to say yes if they're on the paper.

Speaker 10 (01:11:30):
So you can just have one person trying to or
you can have a sample. One time it went to
the point of like the man's dad, you ain't got
no more family members or nothing like that. That we
went to the burial type shit. They went to the
you know, the sample, the people who clear the sample.
They was like, yo, he ain't cast a check in

(01:11:50):
thirteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
There's no like we was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Looking like you got to clear these samples because then
it's on you if you let them go, right, and
they come back to sue you for that real one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
So anyway, that's all that happened, and now is coming
December fifth. So again this is volume one, right, So
volume one to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
It ain't just everybody who's there because I heard the record.
No no, no, no, no no no the bar the
record was sold, but that was a while. That's when
did they sold three hundred?

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
I ain't get a chance to get that or that
was the first record that came and it's gone at
but Brother Meth Snoop Dogg and Nate held the Skelter
m Op, Cypress Hills, E p M D, Dog Pound.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Conaway, the Machine Game, Lil Wayne mob D. This volume
one Public Public Enemy right, Volume one. Sure I'll get
on volume two of the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
So so this is what I ended up doing through
d MS and everybody who I who I kind of
called or DM. Everybody says yes, some some didn't say.
But again I was able to get stuff started at
the time, and then certain people like I called Dougie
freshman Rick. First, that's what I really wanted to do,
because I was trying to do I'm gonna I'm gonna

(01:13:22):
do the show in my head all over again, my
way and my version. So but and I I talked
to Andre two thousand way early all for them one
hundred thousand dollars two.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
But but I did U GK, I did a bull
and JG. I did Norty.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
These are the names are I just meant to West
and I got this already on that too for the back.
And then you got the people too that you want
to do. Caught the locks way in Ghost Blackstar s
that's already you know that you trying to get to
make sure I'm covering the bases up. But before Nas
did this, Joe, I was trying to bring my colleagues

(01:14:04):
just to say, you don't got to stop making records.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
But then time went by and now Master Pill do
what they did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
So now everybody's working now, but you know so so,
but I ain't always good though, you know what I'm saying,
So right, like right, everybody working, everybody or ain't always well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
On a plug in man, we got something to play.
He brought us up. M O p Oh my god,
Frankie Crock of that ship, James, they got their A
C the last.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
No, it's just it's just m O P. You know
the A C is on like jail level sidewalk executives. No,
you're gonna jail yo, the records going sidewalk executives, who
called them, who called them?

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Stuff that jail sidewalk executives.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Out the browns, brown rouse, brows, brown tail.

Speaker 12 (01:15:02):
Come on, David, sir, everything my mother, it's goods up.
When we pull up, till we ride, we pray feeling
you don't want to come out. It's a streets certified
by your own four present nigga. You fucking with the
south walking second, I didn't play my part.

Speaker 7 (01:15:25):
Don't k my heart through my career. Done made my.

Speaker 9 (01:15:28):
Mom John imagine where I'm from. Nobody walk faster than
a nigga going when they get his imagine get up
to kick in his hands. Feed up, I'm amphold pete
up from feet up. I'm set up loud from the marks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
How about the.

Speaker 7 (01:15:41):
Back seat holding my nuts?

Speaker 9 (01:15:42):
Test fop something double park kicking put the young It's
every stands.

Speaker 7 (01:15:46):
Sit on the floor home with the money for each John,
bring the getty back.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Nigga jigg it totally.

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
Oh my god, how to think they Lets see it.

Speaker 6 (01:16:03):
For the years down out browns round rouse, brown brown.

Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
Tail, every sermon, every sermon, my mother.

Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
What fock light?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
What's fine?

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
A light?

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
It's goods up till.

Speaker 7 (01:16:20):
We ride prayer feeling you don't want to collide.

Speaker 12 (01:16:23):
It's a streets certified by your own four percent nigga.
You fucking with the south walking second. I doesn't play
my part, don't k my heart through my career? Done
made my mom. John, imagine where I'm from.

Speaker 9 (01:16:35):
Nobody walk faster than the nigga going when they get
his imaginary gun.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
After kicking his hands.

Speaker 9 (01:16:41):
Feed up, I'm amphold pete up from feet up, I'm
set up, laugh from the marks.

Speaker 7 (01:16:46):
I'm about the back seat holding my nuts.

Speaker 9 (01:16:48):
Test foss something double park, I kick you with the
young Its every pasted on the flock shoot up.

Speaker 7 (01:16:53):
So you see your lawyer laughing with the prose for
each job. Bring that gaddy back.

Speaker 9 (01:16:58):
Nicknack, paddy whack gets you. When your clash up, we
pull up? Can we ride them on?

Speaker 7 (01:17:03):
Press feeling you don't want to collide?

Speaker 12 (01:17:05):
This is a street shirt of fine by your own
punt percent, nigga. You fucking with the side porking, SAIDs
good joff booies pull up. Can we ride on press
feeling You don't want to collib this is street shirt
of fine, it's by your own fut percent nigga. You
fucking with the side walking.

Speaker 9 (01:17:21):
You know me when I said so, an body know
me him? Its his other five fire six. It's my
EMOCHI the bigger home details on me. He can show
me your different route to the fag and I ain't
got to have the mag them on me.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
You go get fop frocks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
He swagged on. Dude, that's a major display. You can't
put a flag on floor. Oh no, that's the tent.

Speaker 9 (01:17:40):
I'm a dap with a window deep but tad and
I said, you can this slaationship the people hand. I'm
still have stamped meetings with chill us in the faces.
You don't have bab shows. We the de will us
in the standing yard.

Speaker 7 (01:17:50):
Knaf tell me and you.

Speaker 9 (01:17:51):
Tackle the front of your fans. You're flucy move bloes woosy.
I'm in the arm rock fo fly fucking that's old
food wave ottle niggas gone on me. The secondive start
the moons cuts up, then we pull.

Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
Up, then we round Prey feeling you don't want to
come out.

Speaker 12 (01:18:08):
This is street sort of five by your own purposent. Nigga,
you fucking with the South pork cutch up and we
pull up, then we round prey, feeling you don't want
to come out.

Speaker 7 (01:18:18):
This is street sort of.

Speaker 12 (01:18:19):
Five by your own purposent, nigga, you fucking with the
South porking secondive.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Crown. Yeah, it's fucking beautiful. Billion Fa ship was incredible, brother.
I take billion fame every time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I know you have the excitement. I had a great
time at this show, y'all. People that's watching this. To
to be on this sofa and to be with two again,
it doesn't matter. Man like successfulness, Joe, you we wused
to sit back and be like, yo, damn you got
another one. We got another one because in this to
come back can do every decade. Don't forget. This is
a decade from the nineties, two thousands and then the

(01:19:05):
late so it's three decades of still being able to
be relevant and still be able to say you was
dropping music and not just regular shit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
This was Big Records being made. It was hard to
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
People said, too, how did ever be able to come
back and come back with music from epm D nineteen
eighty eight to two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
You know, that's a that's people don't do that. That's
a feat to be doing that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
So at the end of the day, though, you know, again,
this ship right here is uh is what people talked about,
what they sold felt on the sofa, like this is
a show that you got listen man, y'all my boys,
but it's different shows.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Y'all came up fast, you know what I'm saying, Like
we're not playing. No, it was fast.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
People probably thought regular you know niggas be hating like
that ain't gonna work, saying that. I know a nigga,
I'm one ofing. I'm gona tell you I was out there.
I watched the fun you guys to the richest guy.
I know what, all the motherfuckers watching them. Nobody was believing.
They were like they ain't gonna work. Ain't gonna work.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I knew it would.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
You want to know why, because we respect the culture.
We respect, but it was it was the personalities about
hanging together, and they're gonna talk the way I look
at this. I look at this no different than Shaquille O'Neil.
I'm Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith. Oh okay, he really played

(01:20:31):
the game. But then we respect and saluted the legends
on another You understand what I'm saying. Like I used
to watch these hip hop documentaries and they have guys
on there commentating like they knew, and I'm like, I
don't know you, and I gotta know everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Oh you got the locks?

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Jay's like what you talking about? Because if I couldn't
get him that way, you was gonna get them exactly.
Vocal state legs down somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Damn chess. You see that man, motherfucker making up the
posta noops? Dirty they doing?

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Hey yo yo, But listen, it was just my version
of it, Joe, until I get to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I had to make so it ain't gonna lie to you.
I don't want to die.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
But they definitely have one hundred fat Joe versus in
different studios out there that I just did one day
and kept it moving knowing that they would benefit off
of me. I've done winning regular bullshit studios. Kick six
stained broke out. That's almost like, here you go, this
is a retirement. So when you know Fat Joe's out

(01:21:40):
of here and they put together the pasty shit, you know,
y'all got some shit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Y'all can make a couple of dollars off that shit.
You know what I'm saying, you all, motherfucker put the
shit together.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I'm going to bring.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Out on DJ Snatti Black. Pull out your verse from
Fat Joe one dollar Bella. I pull out your verse.
You got a couple of dollars covering your way. They
all looking like her. He knows we kept that ship. Yeah,
I know you Hey kids, you probably won't even remember,
and nobody's gonna know because it's a record.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
And again, it didn't go you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Know, so I could have asked him and said yo,
and it still would have been like, oh shit, you
heard that new you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I could have did that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
But again, but now since you know whatever it is,
what it is, I'm gonna play for assistant giggles b
I G.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Yes, that was dope, b I G. So you didn't
hear that yet?

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
No, Yeah, but I'm not talking about that. I got
talking about the only thing in the history of of life.
I didn't appreciate was like thin he after he died.
They was making cold yea yeah with me, Yes, I know,
I know all types of sh I was just like
the same vocals though I know the same ship with
the words, or if you had difference, if freestyled it

(01:22:53):
in the in the radio and changed like that and
they did, Yeah, that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
You're not gonna believe when you hear my said, you're
gonna think them toos in it to get wrapped to
the beat.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Fucking love you. Yeah, this is called It's called where
you at feat in the locks because nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:23:22):
Which rapper want to smile on him.

Speaker 15 (01:23:23):
Now if you want god sucker, you ain't say stoules.

Speaker 7 (01:23:26):
It's the best.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I'm disgusting.

Speaker 8 (01:23:27):
What up?

Speaker 7 (01:23:27):
Then we'll start the discuss it.

Speaker 15 (01:23:29):
The hands and sa homie, that's the body in Hudson,
lucky to be found by the riff of patrol.

Speaker 8 (01:23:34):
Be a piece of.

Speaker 15 (01:23:34):
Shit, rushing fuck thigging the hole which rappresent He the best,
telling them ghost sittings, the pitchers.

Speaker 7 (01:23:39):
And children to stay less. They give him my age
dress get the.

Speaker 15 (01:23:42):
Top ten niggas, the sour and chests best put my
blade to their skin, stretching like speed and decks. But
now I'm want some entrepreneurship. Spot seat in the car,
kidding the guard full of that raw ship at Leasta
said violate hitting him with a decent clip, knocked out
his eyeballs.

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
He ain't even beat.

Speaker 15 (01:23:58):
The ship ghost numbing like leon Cope, can't heat the
mixed simple you know.

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
Give a fuck?

Speaker 11 (01:24:02):
Cool when right here New York, lax where you and
you hit them three lettuce, you know that they represent it.

Speaker 15 (01:24:14):
I could go anywhere as long as I got the
I do it for the East, as long as I
got the coast, go out on my shield, as long
as I got my old and hip hop can never
be dead long as I got a pole.

Speaker 7 (01:24:24):
Now that's the kiddy sex hat, the fly on the
wall with the biggest set.

Speaker 15 (01:24:29):
Yeah, soaked it all up to spit it out with aggression,
felt the way about it every sin with affection.

Speaker 7 (01:24:34):
Yeah, you better believe that the bottles is on.

Speaker 15 (01:24:36):
Dak pays little cookies, Gildo's on days.

Speaker 7 (01:24:40):
Never sober, it's never on it.

Speaker 15 (01:24:42):
Rollout twenty one deep and eleven rovers headed shoulders. That's
where he pointed them things out. I'm playing the game. See,
I mean they had you could bring back.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
Yeah, at least it.

Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
Be y'all Danna and you hit them three lettuce.

Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
You know that they represented lax right here, pallaway.

Speaker 7 (01:25:02):
Yeah yeah, do you hit them three letters?

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
You know that they.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Can you remember that verse? You don't even remember it, right?
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
Sometimes I go overseas and they have an after party
and they start playing Fat Joe records Ice Swear to God,
I sit there like, I don't remember them ships.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
They be playing ship.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
I'll be like, we I do that. But everybody that
I play heards you just now and you watch the room.
Nigga's like, what is that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
That ship was incredible? Again the Rhams was fan.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
But again I could have, but I didn't want to
do that because again I know how artists be too yo.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I did that before. I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
But it's a new record to everybody. Want Eric Sherman
to produce my Albumlogue take my whole ship?

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Are you gonna play? You're gonna play godflaw on cheet though,
giving the mother just the last one. I'm gonna go.
We gotta go, you gotta go, ever Seving.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
But this is this is a lower vibration of what
I would do did this is Conway, the machine, little
Way and game. It's gonna be kind of long because
it's slow too, but as a vibe, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
It's over. Everything starts from now. We all go down
unless we stay together. Ain't no one man above the crew.
You know that ship. I ain't ship.

Speaker 6 (01:26:31):
I ain't never gonna be shipped.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
You remember that motherfucker God.

Speaker 9 (01:26:35):
Mold new godflow on God's son twelve goose swam pastoles
when every summer this gospel mob blowly.

Speaker 7 (01:26:42):
We're pretty bitch with a sign.

Speaker 6 (01:26:44):
No my blow Even Nigga.

Speaker 9 (01:26:46):
Chest would fly hole Congo Gorilla like I'm from Congo.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
I go on the reps, I colon seals.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
My name calis sol my holes the ritals homey, that's
not those top flows for consoles hanging up on the
walls and all on my swat stove.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Yo, bitch, my dick smacking up tom soles. My fans
be mashing like they have rock show.

Speaker 9 (01:27:10):
My man had a button on a ham pole, My
yams the guard cook on a hot stove.

Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
Smith the ticket that's so.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Ridges just the cop clothes, what's up?

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
Gooding like a black face.

Speaker 8 (01:27:24):
I could see the future in my luscos. This Christmas
listens what you're sending.

Speaker 16 (01:27:28):
The firepole on the firepole heaven God time, highway to Heaven,
no potholes.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
I put you on that highway to heaven. Take the
high road.

Speaker 16 (01:27:37):
Guy knows I'm weathering the storm, still in dry clothes,
Still got my foot on niggas. Next my nigga five
toes that shy holes coming out their shelves like tip toes,
got thy whole seal and puts their whole seal like cascos.

Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
I still come with syrup like roscoes.

Speaker 16 (01:27:51):
And I got those chickens in the trunks with no
white boat. It's black oats, peanut colada.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
I'm your cook. I've a provider. It's sweetest vagina trap.
I was jumping like them.

Speaker 16 (01:28:00):
I like the Rowinda get high into the I fel
nerd inciples a biment.

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
These rappers are biting like diamond and time is an issue.

Speaker 16 (01:28:07):
When I center back out, it's a missal dog food.
I turned the trap house to Kennel Rick men in Miami,
and they calling me brick.

Speaker 6 (01:28:16):
If you five, I want charge your nick to work. Now,
what's up coming?

Speaker 8 (01:28:19):
Lack of blind food. I could see in the future
of my last news. This person's that's the stricture sitting
the firebole on the bare bole, how many God.

Speaker 17 (01:28:28):
B last against the rapper alive. I swear to God
against those lives. The only nigga that show up the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
When out the squad.

Speaker 17 (01:28:34):
My presences, fit heart rates rides on my essence of
pit and no stephen a Smith fag. I don't wear
my hat over my ears niggas. My influence on these
rap niggas like Hennessy and they feel on the same
song until they fade out with you, my enemy from Lee,
Harvey and Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Don't shine here.

Speaker 17 (01:28:48):
I mean that ship and they saw see saying time
and trying to pull up black academics. Big so stop
playing like one hit Wonder's first song for I take
you back to the old game with the ball head
and the shirt long. I'm gonna mean after the earth gone,
when the ocean dry, Yeah, winging our fish scales, smoking
herb till on the dirt. Come fuck you new niggas
making a spot high. You ain't gonna last for long.
It's like you shot pot, hated and loved throwing the

(01:29:10):
dog still in the drop top and noble French kiss
or something in one of them Diesel prop tops to
Cubans around my neck like I got to work and
last album so twenty thousand the first week that got
to her. That's why I listened to bread Fayas and
Poppa Perk, but not before I call that summon, make
sure we got the verse that what's ull coming.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Like a blind food.

Speaker 8 (01:29:29):
I could see the future of my hustless presus last
criptures sending the pliable on the pliable ham and gone.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Sent to DT vessels, big time, big time, Big job,
December fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
The album is called Duo Dynamic Dynamic Duo put them
off deep then no no, I was like this, ain't that.
That ain't fit racking kiss, dive it up for each servy.
Thank you, thank you so much, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:30:07):
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