July 23, 2024 • 22 mins
You've seen the Guilty Pleasure music video, but did you notice the hidden aspects JoJo included?! What did the 'JoJo bow' and 'slime' represent? Did her tampon actually fall out in the video?! Why did they film on a set that was actually haunted?!
She spills all the details about her newest EP and everything that went into it over the past two years!! Listen to this episode, then go back and watch the Guilty Pleasure music video to understand...
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Jo Josia now with me Jojo Ciua
an iHeartRadio podcast. Ohlcome back to Jojoffsey.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What now? Oh my god? What the last man? Two
weeks now?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's been crazy ever since Guilty Pleasure came out.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I I can't.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Even believe how we have come to this point of
my life. I mean, I can remember two years ago
actually starting this project. It was right when I ended
Oh my god, is that.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Almost three years ago? Three years ago is crazy? Oh
my god. Okay, so it's almost three years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Remember starting this project of writing new music is right
after I got off of Dream the Tour and this,
like for context, this was a very wild time in
my life because I had just filmed my movie, The
J Team. Right after The J Team wrapped, I went
straight into filming our show Seas Dance Proper Revolution. Right
when that wrapped, literally a day later, I started filming
Dancing with the Stars right when Dancing with the Stars
(01:03):
were After the next day, I started Dream Tour rehearsals.
Right after that is when I went on Dream Tour.
And then I came home from Dream Tour and started
working on this music project. So it was a lot
happening at once a lot in my life changing. I
had come out a year ago, so I had like
experienced love for the first time, I experienced this crazy
wave of the Internet, I experienced being on tour, like
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it was just so much happening at once in my life.
And so to like think now that we are finally
at this point where some of this music is finally
out into the world is honestly like, it's such a
bit of a mind I'm not gonna lie, Like my
brain can't really process how long ago we started it
and now it's finally here. It makes me truly so happy.
(01:48):
And to see that the world's enjoying it and listening
and streaming and watching it just makes me so so happy. Now,
if you are insanely lost and you have no idea
what I am talking about, my brand new EP, Guilty Pleasure,
with five new songs on it just came out. I'm
so happy it came out on July twelfth.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Five new songs.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We have Balanced Baby, a song called Guilty Pleasure, We
have Choose Your Fighter, Yesterday's tomorrow is Today, and of
course old faithful Karma. You cannot go wrong with Karma.
And then a music video as well. For Guilty Pleasure
came out and the music video is doing crazy. I
mean today it went up again on the charts, which
is wild because I feel like for me, typically when
(02:32):
something comes out, it peaks and then it you know,
kind of tapers off. But for Guilty, it's still growing,
which is just wild and going up on the charts
and up, and it just ah, it makes my heart
so happy. Y'all are y'all are streaming, y'all are watching,
and I am so freaking grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Now, if you've seen them.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Guilty Pleasure music video, you know that there's a lot
happening in it. You are entering JoJo's pleasure house and
you are in all these different rooms and there's lots
of things going on. But there's actually lots of hidden
things in this music video. And then also if you
haven't seen it yet, go watch it and then come
back to this that way you can have some context
of what I'm talking about, and then listen to this
(03:11):
podcast and then go back and watch it, so that
way you kind of know and you can kind of
see what I'm talking about. That is why today I'm
gonna be giving you the five things that are hidden
in Guilty Pleasure. Are you ready? If you're ready, buckle,
they'll frockle up. That's a new word I just invented. Anyways,
let's freaking dive right into this because I got lots
(03:33):
of stories for you all. So if you watch a
Guilty Pleasure music video, you will see there is two
very significant moments, and that is when the two pleasure
house customers come up to the Zultar ticket booth. That's
kind of what we call the like the ticket booth
thing where I'm not frozen statue, and they bring two
items up. So the first one is a girl and
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she brings up a jojo bo and the second one
is a boy and he brings up slime and they
smack it on the window and they're like, let me
in this pleasure house.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
The significance of that is, if you watch the beginning
of the video, you see a bunch of people running up.
Everyone wants to get in, and they.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
All have money.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now, money ain't gonna get you in. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So this Ultar me. I am frozen in there. I'm
not moving.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And then all of a sudden, someone walks up with
that jojobo when she smacks it on the window, that
is what activates like, yes, you can come in. And
that is to represent like you have to turn in
your jojobo to be a part of this new world,
you know. And that doesn't mean thwda way, that doesn't
mean burn it, that doesn't mean anything crazy. But that
does mean that this is a new world and it
is not this that's behind me right now anymore. It
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is a full, full new thing, a full new vision
and a brace for impact. So that lets her into
the pleasure house. But then, you know, when we get
into the second verse, you see a bunch of people
now with their jojobo's. They think, oh, a jojobo's gonna
get me in. Oh that's gonna get me. And that
got her and I want to get in. Here's my
bo na na na na to recry someone else now,
I don't know what that is. And then you see
(05:02):
somebody his name is actually, his name is Diego. He
is freaking phenomenal. He actually he won season four of
the TV show World of Dance with a girl named
em and a girl named Madison. They were a little trio.
He's a phenomenal dancer. Unreal, and he walked up to
the ticket booth and he puts slime on the ticket booth.
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And now slim could represent a couple of things. Slime
could represent people have dated. Slime could represent a company
I worked for a lot of different angles of my life.
And so that is the second ticket to get into
the pleasure house. And so it truly is just like,
you gotta be creative, you gotta come up with something
to let yourself in. And uh So, anyways, he puts
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a slime up that gets him into the pleasure house
and then it is all for everybody. All of the
creatives are turned in and everybody is welcome. At this point.
The second thing in the music video is actually something
that I never noticed, and this is one of the
things that the world noticed about the music video, and
I was like, damn, you really just can't win, can you.
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If you're watching the music video, it's the very end
of the video, it is when we do the church
dance break. Now, I'm gonna talk you through this church
dance break. Right, So we go snap our hands open,
we go head shoulder, drop leg leg. Then we do
a big jump on this big jump. According to the Internet,
my tampon falls out? What is actually blowing my actual mind?
(06:33):
People really believe that my tampon fell out? This is
freaking psychotic. How can people believe that I am wearing
a full costume shorts, one legs a pant, one legs
a short and it just was like and people like
truly think it was my tampon, and that, I mean
actually blows my mind because I'm like, Okay, number one,
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do you not know how this works?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Number two? Why would your mind go? Number three?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
This is actually hysterical, Like I have so much ammunition
with this because it's like how how Now? What really
happened was my costume was super, super super fragile for
the Guilty Pleasure music video. That ending church costume was
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falling apart faster than we could keep it together.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean, it was actually really bad.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
We were using gorilla tape to just keep it together,
keep it on my body. It is so fragile. It's
falling apart still to this day, and so we just
we kind of just leave it be. But on set,
obviously you know we're dancing and I'm going very full out,
and so it was like, hey, look, we probably have
three takes till this whole costume is apart, like, don't fuck.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It up anyways.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So what you're seeing is one of the feathers on
the costume. The feathers were made out of foam and
one of them fell. But the way that the lights
hitting it, even though it was dark with rhinestones on it,
it looks like it is white and it looks like
a tampon. And the way it falls, I mean, it
looks like it falls parfectly out of my you know where.
And I mean it I understand what the world's saying,
(08:05):
but I'm more so like, how how did this video
get approved by.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So many people and no one caught it? Not me,
not my mom, not the drugs or not the card
for not anyone on my.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Label, not the producers, not the editors, not the team,
not the dancers that I let watch it now, my
friends that I I mean, there was probably one hundred
people that had eyes on this video before it came out,
and not one person caught it. And then all of
a sudden, the Internet was like, oh, you're too that's crazy,
y'all are psycho. But hey, I'm just honored that y'all
(08:36):
watch the video that long I'll take it. The next
thing that I want to talk about is actually the
writing process of the song, so not necessarily the video itself,
but this song. I have such an incredible team that
(08:58):
worked on this song. Now, Guilty is one of two
songs on my EP, Guilty Pleasure, that I wrote. I
wrote Yesterday's Tomorrow's Today, and I'm also a writer on
Guilty Pleasure. It gets a little confusing when I talk
about it, because the whole EP is called Guilty Pleasure,
but then there's a specific song, Guilty Pleasure, and then
of course the Guilty Pleasure music video, and so it
gets he is a little confusing when I talk about it,
(09:20):
but we're talking about the two songs specifically Yesterday's, Tomorrow's
Today and then Guilty Pleasure. So Guilty Pleasure the writing
process was honestly some of the best days of my
entire life. You're gonna die when I tell you the
team behind this. Who's a guy named Matthew Koma. He
is freaking amazing. Y'all might know the name Hillary Duff
and he is Hillary Duff's husband. He's literally one of
(09:44):
the coolest guys ever. So fun brings so many good
ideas at the table and the second writer on the song.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You might have heard of her before. Her name is
Megan Trainor.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
She's a small pop star, done a couple of things
here and there, a couple of couple of like almost hits.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now not really too major, I'm kidding. She is.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
She is mother. We love her like no other a
Miss Megan Trainer. She she is literally one of the
best humans ever. She is such a good friend, such
a good mentor, such a good mom, such a good artist.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
She is brilliant.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I tell you, this girl can write a song faster
than anyone I've ever seen in my life. It comes
to her, Melody comes to her, lyrics comes to her,
production comes to her. She is just so genius. And
we wrote wrote Guilty Pleasure out her house. Her dad
always pops in, her brothers are always there, her mom's
always there. It is It's truly a family affair. Such
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good people of course, Daryl, her husband, her kids, Ugh,
just like literally the best human I cannot speak highly
enough about this girl. She deserves the freaking world and
she has the world in the palm of her hand.
And I am so so grateful that she's in my
bubble and I actually I had a very candid conversation
(11:00):
with her because I was like, hey, look, I know
there's a lot of controversy surrounding me right now. What
is your take on me making it public knowledge that
you had something to do with guilty Pleasure? Because you know,
I know your image is very clean and you're very
family friendly, and I want to, you know, not drag
you into this whole of wildness that my life is
(11:22):
right now, you know what I mean, Like if you
want to stay removed, because I've had that happen with
other songs where certain writers want to stay on an
alias name, which is totally fine. That is a common
thing to do. And I was like, do you want that?
Like do you want me to not make it like public?
And she was like no, I'm so fucking proud of you.
I want the world to know. She's like I was
gonna do a post like I am stoked about this,
stoked about the song, stoked about the video, stoked for you,
(11:44):
like you.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Did this, own it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I'm a part of it, but it's your thing, but
like I don't care at all, Like I want the
world to know, like this is this is us.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
She was just so.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
She's just such a good human and she genuinely cares
about the people around her, and I am so lucky
had become one of those people. And I can't think
her enough truly. So, Megan, if you're ever hearing this,
I love you. I would do literally anything for you.
I'd take a bullet for you. You're the most amazing,
beautiful woman ever and I want to be just like
you when.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I grew up.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Anyways, the last person I want to talk about on
the team. There was a few more people on the
Guilty Pleasure team and this they all came from Paul's team.
But the last person that I want to talk about
on the song sort of team is this guy named Paul,
and he has DJ White Shadow. Now, Paul, I actually
went out on a limb and in twenty twenty, I
made a list and I was like, I want to
look up all my favorite songs, look up the producers,
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and I want to make a list of who I
want to write with and who I want to produce with.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And Paul was.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
One of them. And now this list had twenty people
on it. I was obsessed with all these producers, a
lot of the same producers did like a lot of
the songs that I liked, and so it ended up
being it worked out really easily that there wasn't a
billion people, and I message all them on Instagram and
I just I shot my shot and I was just like, hey,
I love your work, like I love making music. I'm
(13:01):
gonna be tapping into a different music world soon, like
I would love to work with you. Pick your ear,
happy to be a part of my team. And everyone
responded like, oh, good luck, Oh have fun with that.
Paul responded and he was like, let's go, let's do this,
and so he took a meeting with me, and I
was I.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Was a baby.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I was only seventeen maybe maybe a fresh No, it
was still only seventeen because it was it was actually
it was before I came out, so that's for context,
like how early on in my life it was I
was straight. And so Paul we took he took a
call with me and he was like, look, he's like
you're a little young, but he was like I really
want to work with you. And he was like I
think you have something special and like let's freaking do this.
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And we kind of just stayed in contact and then
when I signed with Columbia, they were like, who do
you want to work with? And I was like, actually,
I have I have a guy. I was like, I
want to work with this guy, Paul. Let's give him
a shot.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And Paul ended up.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Producing a bit of Karma along with Rock Mafia. Rock
Mafia started it, Paul finished it, and then Paul did
Guilty Pleasure. He he is, He's brilliant, and he gives
his two cents and his two cents and his ear
is unreal. He's done some of your favorite Gaga songs.
That's how I discovered him was through Gaga's music, and
so to have him be a part of this song
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was just fascinating. And he now has like a bigger
picture play in my music world, which I'm so freaking
grateful for. But yeah, that is it's kind of the
team in the context behind the team of Karma and
the writing and the producing of the actual song.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But now back to the music video.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I've got two more things for you, and they both
are pretty freaking fascinating, So get ready for this. Five
things hidden in Guilty Pleasure. The fourth thing that is
hidden in Guilty Pleasure is that on set of the
music video. It actually was haunted. Now let me give
you some context. Let me not say that without bullshitting it,
like full transparency, This set was haunted. Wasn't until nighttime
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that the people that were like, oh, by the way,
like you know, this is an iconic location, right, and
we were like, what do you mean. We're like, yeah,
this is where they filmed all the Saw movies SAW, like.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
The scary movies Saw. And we were like, oh cute.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
After they said that, so much freaky shit started happening.
I mean, lights going out, shit not working, Candle's Boy
like whax. So where we filmed the church stuff was
like upstairs and around a corner and like we all
thought we were gonna fall through the floor, Like it
was a little terrifying. Obviously we weren't and we were
very safe, but like, it was weird. And then get
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freaking this. So if you'd watch all my BTS footage,
you'll notice that when we're in the like Zoltar booth area,
there's actually no real BTS footage, and the reason is
out of nowhere. Once it hit a certain hour, the
mic on the camera stopped working. So we have all
the footage, but there's no audience that we can't use
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any of the like true bts. It's only like for
clips and stuff, and like there was no reason that
should should have happened. Like the MIC was working perfectly
fine when we left, like we used it together. The
next it was totally fine. Like nothing switch, not a
setting switched, nothing. All of a sudden when we were
filming outside, mic off like just like.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
The weirdest, freakiest, like what the are the odds of that?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And there was just a lot of stuff that happened
on set where we started off with the Teddy Bears
and that was fine. It was like a little eerie,
and then construction was totally fine. It was just super hot.
It was so hot while we were filming construction stuff.
It was literally like one hundred degrees in there. It
was wild. And then when we went to church, so
our order of operations was Teddy Bear, Construction, Church, Zoltar.
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And when we went to church is when it started
to get real fricking creepy. And there was this one
show that I did on Deariam the tour at the
Masonic Temple, and that show was Haunted. It's in the
Masonic Temple I believe it's in Detroit, Michigan. And essentially
the building is like one of the oldest buildings in America.
It's one hundred stories tall. Like it's this crazy building,
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but it is like known to be hot. Stuff's known
to go wrong at shows, like when you're in the
dressing room, like shit's gonna happen. And like when I
tell you it was accurate, I mean we got stuck
in an elevator. We found a pool that was abandoned
in the building, like wild. Have you ever seen the
movie There's this movie called as Above So Below, and
that is what it felt like. It felt like we
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were in the freaking catacombs in Paris. But this location
of filming this video was the same feeling where you're
just like something's off about this place and I don't
know what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It's that same feeling, all right, everybody, We have made
it too.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Our last fun thing about Guilty Pleasure, last thing hidden
in the Guilty Pleasure music video.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
If you look at.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The construction set, you will see we have all these
tools in there.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We got saws, we.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Got wood, we got hammers, we got screwdrivers, we have
electrical panels, everything in there is real except.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
For our hammers.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
So like this power saw only real. Be careful, don't
touch it. The electrical panels in the back were like,
do not touch them.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
They are real. We are using them currently.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The wood that I'm holding fully real, fully, a real
blank wood. It wasn't supposed to be holding it at all.
I literally just thought I was like, this will be hot.
I want to hold it. But our hammers, our hammers
that we use and our hammers that we dance with
are fake. Now there's a couple of reasons for this.
Number one safety. Obviously, we should not be using a
metal heavy hammer that could hurt somebody, especially with us
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dancing with them, flipping with them, being so in close
contact with each other, like you definitely want to stay safe. However,
these hammers are made out of styrofoam, so making it
look like it's a real hammer and making it feel
a little labored when you're using it. Especially when we
did the Bop Pop pop hammer flip, that was a
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task in itself, like getting that to look just right,
so that way we made it believable was believe it
or not actually kind of hard. Now, am I grateful
that it was strofoam and not metal. Absolutely, but thank
god it ended up working. I could not get the
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hammer flip for the longest time, I swear literally in rehearsals,
I think I did the hammer flip like twice, and
then on set I told everybody. I was like, look,
if you mess up the hammer flip, I was like,
it's totally fine. I was like, just tell me because
I don't want to finish the take and then be
editing and be like, crap, somebody dropped it, you know
what I mean, like, just tell me that way we
can fix it.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And nobody did except me. First take we did.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I dropped it and then I was like, Jojo, you
need to get your shit together.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Then I didn't drop it anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
There's this one time too, where somebody's hammer when we
do like the like big arm, big arm, like the
arm circles, somebody's hammer went flying and we were like,
thank god, it's fake. Thank god it's a fake, because
that thing would I mean, that would leave the mark
for sure, real hammer absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
All right, y'all. That That is.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
The five things that I have hidden in the Guilty
Pleasure music video. Now, look, I'm sure there's more things.
That y'all are gonna spot kind of like my tampon
flying out and that that is on you. I truly
just cannot believe the love behind the Guilty Pleasure music video.
I mean, I wanted to make a visual and a
vision that was bigger and more dramatic than Karma could
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have ever been. And I think somehow, somehow we cracked
that code and the team behind Guilty and it's unreal.
It's the same team that is behind Karma, and I'm
gonna talk about Karma next week, so stay tuned for
that one.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And it is the same team.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Behind the music video, and they truly are just the best,
most brilliant people ever me Shaw. If you haven't already
check out the Guilty Pleasure music video, you can see
it on my YouTube channel. It is it is special.
It is special. It makes you turn your head and
it makes you go, what the fuck is wrong with her?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And quite honestly, I don't know what is? And that's okay.
Something is.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm sure any users, I have said the word any
hoosers forty two times in the last hour. I need
to can it with the word any hoosers?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Any users? I'm gonna get out of here.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I love y'all stream my new Eve be Guilty Pleasure
five new songs. I want to know what your favorite
of the five new songs is. For me personally, I
gotta go with Balance Baby. I freaking love that song.
I can't help it. I also I like Yesterday's Tomorrow's Today.
There's something different about that song, and I've had that
idea for that song since I was fourteen, and so
like to have it finally be out. It's like, wait,
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I feel like it just came up with that idea
literally yesterday. But it's out now. Go stream everything, Go
check it out. Everybody listen to music. I freaking love you.
I freaking adore you. Thank you for hanging out with me.
Thank you for listening to Josh.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Be sure you stay nice, you stay kind, you stay happy,
you stay humble, you stay positive, stay a good human,
and just have fun.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
We literally only get one life. I love y'all, deuces,
Thank you so much for listening. Everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Be sure to follow us on Instagram and TikTok at
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Five stars i'll see you next week.
You're listening to Jo Josia now with me Jojo Ciua
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
What now? Oh my god? What the last man? Two
weeks now?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's been crazy ever since Guilty Pleasure came out.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I I can't.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Even believe how we have come to this point of
my life. I mean, I can remember two years ago
actually starting this project. It was right when I ended
Oh my god, is that.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Almost three years ago? Three years ago is crazy? Oh
my god. Okay, so it's almost three years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Remember starting this project of writing new music is right
after I got off of Dream the Tour and this,
like for context, this was a very wild time in
my life because I had just filmed my movie, The
J Team. Right after The J Team wrapped, I went
straight into filming our show Seas Dance Proper Revolution. Right
when that wrapped, literally a day later, I started filming
Dancing with the Stars right when Dancing with the Stars
(01:03):
were After the next day, I started Dream Tour rehearsals.
Right after that is when I went on Dream Tour.
And then I came home from Dream Tour and started
working on this music project. So it was a lot
happening at once a lot in my life changing. I
had come out a year ago, so I had like
experienced love for the first time, I experienced this crazy
wave of the Internet, I experienced being on tour, like
(01:24):
it was just so much happening at once in my life.
And so to like think now that we are finally
at this point where some of this music is finally
out into the world is honestly like, it's such a
bit of a mind I'm not gonna lie, Like my
brain can't really process how long ago we started it
and now it's finally here. It makes me truly so happy.
(01:48):
And to see that the world's enjoying it and listening
and streaming and watching it just makes me so so happy. Now,
if you are insanely lost and you have no idea
what I am talking about, my brand new EP, Guilty Pleasure,
with five new songs on it just came out. I'm
so happy it came out on July twelfth.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Five new songs.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We have Balanced Baby, a song called Guilty Pleasure, We
have Choose Your Fighter, Yesterday's tomorrow is Today, and of
course old faithful Karma. You cannot go wrong with Karma.
And then a music video as well. For Guilty Pleasure
came out and the music video is doing crazy. I
mean today it went up again on the charts, which
is wild because I feel like for me, typically when
(02:32):
something comes out, it peaks and then it you know,
kind of tapers off. But for Guilty, it's still growing,
which is just wild and going up on the charts
and up, and it just ah, it makes my heart
so happy. Y'all are y'all are streaming, y'all are watching,
and I am so freaking grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Now, if you've seen them.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Guilty Pleasure music video, you know that there's a lot
happening in it. You are entering JoJo's pleasure house and
you are in all these different rooms and there's lots
of things going on. But there's actually lots of hidden
things in this music video. And then also if you
haven't seen it yet, go watch it and then come
back to this that way you can have some context
of what I'm talking about, and then listen to this
(03:11):
podcast and then go back and watch it, so that
way you kind of know and you can kind of
see what I'm talking about. That is why today I'm
gonna be giving you the five things that are hidden
in Guilty Pleasure. Are you ready? If you're ready, buckle,
they'll frockle up. That's a new word I just invented. Anyways,
let's freaking dive right into this because I got lots
(03:33):
of stories for you all. So if you watch a
Guilty Pleasure music video, you will see there is two
very significant moments, and that is when the two pleasure
house customers come up to the Zultar ticket booth. That's
kind of what we call the like the ticket booth
thing where I'm not frozen statue, and they bring two
items up. So the first one is a girl and
(03:53):
she brings up a jojo bo and the second one
is a boy and he brings up slime and they
smack it on the window and they're like, let me
in this pleasure house.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
The significance of that is, if you watch the beginning
of the video, you see a bunch of people running up.
Everyone wants to get in, and they.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
All have money.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now, money ain't gonna get you in. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So this Ultar me. I am frozen in there. I'm
not moving.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And then all of a sudden, someone walks up with
that jojobo when she smacks it on the window, that
is what activates like, yes, you can come in. And
that is to represent like you have to turn in
your jojobo to be a part of this new world,
you know. And that doesn't mean thwda way, that doesn't
mean burn it, that doesn't mean anything crazy. But that
does mean that this is a new world and it
is not this that's behind me right now anymore. It
(04:40):
is a full, full new thing, a full new vision
and a brace for impact. So that lets her into
the pleasure house. But then, you know, when we get
into the second verse, you see a bunch of people
now with their jojobo's. They think, oh, a jojobo's gonna
get me in. Oh that's gonna get me. And that
got her and I want to get in. Here's my
bo na na na na to recry someone else now,
I don't know what that is. And then you see
(05:02):
somebody his name is actually, his name is Diego. He
is freaking phenomenal. He actually he won season four of
the TV show World of Dance with a girl named
em and a girl named Madison. They were a little trio.
He's a phenomenal dancer. Unreal, and he walked up to
the ticket booth and he puts slime on the ticket booth.
(05:25):
And now slim could represent a couple of things. Slime
could represent people have dated. Slime could represent a company
I worked for a lot of different angles of my life.
And so that is the second ticket to get into
the pleasure house. And so it truly is just like,
you gotta be creative, you gotta come up with something
to let yourself in. And uh So, anyways, he puts
(05:45):
a slime up that gets him into the pleasure house
and then it is all for everybody. All of the
creatives are turned in and everybody is welcome. At this point.
The second thing in the music video is actually something
that I never noticed, and this is one of the
things that the world noticed about the music video, and
I was like, damn, you really just can't win, can you.
(06:07):
If you're watching the music video, it's the very end
of the video, it is when we do the church
dance break. Now, I'm gonna talk you through this church
dance break. Right, So we go snap our hands open,
we go head shoulder, drop leg leg. Then we do
a big jump on this big jump. According to the Internet,
my tampon falls out? What is actually blowing my actual mind?
(06:33):
People really believe that my tampon fell out? This is
freaking psychotic. How can people believe that I am wearing
a full costume shorts, one legs a pant, one legs
a short and it just was like and people like
truly think it was my tampon, and that, I mean
actually blows my mind because I'm like, Okay, number one,
(06:56):
do you not know how this works?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Number two? Why would your mind go? Number three?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
This is actually hysterical, Like I have so much ammunition
with this because it's like how how Now? What really
happened was my costume was super, super super fragile for
the Guilty Pleasure music video. That ending church costume was
(07:21):
falling apart faster than we could keep it together.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean, it was actually really bad.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
We were using gorilla tape to just keep it together,
keep it on my body. It is so fragile. It's
falling apart still to this day, and so we just
we kind of just leave it be. But on set,
obviously you know we're dancing and I'm going very full out,
and so it was like, hey, look, we probably have
three takes till this whole costume is apart, like, don't fuck.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It up anyways.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So what you're seeing is one of the feathers on
the costume. The feathers were made out of foam and
one of them fell. But the way that the lights
hitting it, even though it was dark with rhinestones on it,
it looks like it is white and it looks like
a tampon. And the way it falls, I mean, it
looks like it falls parfectly out of my you know where.
And I mean it I understand what the world's saying,
(08:05):
but I'm more so like, how how did this video
get approved by.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So many people and no one caught it? Not me,
not my mom, not the drugs or not the card
for not anyone on my.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Label, not the producers, not the editors, not the team,
not the dancers that I let watch it now, my
friends that I I mean, there was probably one hundred
people that had eyes on this video before it came out,
and not one person caught it. And then all of
a sudden, the Internet was like, oh, you're too that's crazy,
y'all are psycho. But hey, I'm just honored that y'all
(08:36):
watch the video that long I'll take it. The next
thing that I want to talk about is actually the
writing process of the song, so not necessarily the video itself,
but this song. I have such an incredible team that
(08:58):
worked on this song. Now, Guilty is one of two
songs on my EP, Guilty Pleasure, that I wrote. I
wrote Yesterday's Tomorrow's Today, and I'm also a writer on
Guilty Pleasure. It gets a little confusing when I talk
about it, because the whole EP is called Guilty Pleasure,
but then there's a specific song, Guilty Pleasure, and then
of course the Guilty Pleasure music video, and so it
gets he is a little confusing when I talk about it,
(09:20):
but we're talking about the two songs specifically Yesterday's, Tomorrow's
Today and then Guilty Pleasure. So Guilty Pleasure the writing
process was honestly some of the best days of my
entire life. You're gonna die when I tell you the
team behind this. Who's a guy named Matthew Koma. He
is freaking amazing. Y'all might know the name Hillary Duff
and he is Hillary Duff's husband. He's literally one of
(09:44):
the coolest guys ever. So fun brings so many good
ideas at the table and the second writer on the song.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You might have heard of her before. Her name is
Megan Trainor.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
She's a small pop star, done a couple of things
here and there, a couple of couple of like almost hits.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now not really too major, I'm kidding. She is.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
She is mother. We love her like no other a
Miss Megan Trainer. She she is literally one of the
best humans ever. She is such a good friend, such
a good mentor, such a good mom, such a good artist.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
She is brilliant.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I tell you, this girl can write a song faster
than anyone I've ever seen in my life. It comes
to her, Melody comes to her, lyrics comes to her,
production comes to her. She is just so genius. And
we wrote wrote Guilty Pleasure out her house. Her dad
always pops in, her brothers are always there, her mom's
always there. It is It's truly a family affair. Such
(10:40):
good people of course, Daryl, her husband, her kids, Ugh,
just like literally the best human I cannot speak highly
enough about this girl. She deserves the freaking world and
she has the world in the palm of her hand.
And I am so so grateful that she's in my
bubble and I actually I had a very candid conversation
(11:00):
with her because I was like, hey, look, I know
there's a lot of controversy surrounding me right now. What
is your take on me making it public knowledge that
you had something to do with guilty Pleasure? Because you know,
I know your image is very clean and you're very
family friendly, and I want to, you know, not drag
you into this whole of wildness that my life is
(11:22):
right now, you know what I mean, Like if you
want to stay removed, because I've had that happen with
other songs where certain writers want to stay on an
alias name, which is totally fine. That is a common
thing to do. And I was like, do you want that?
Like do you want me to not make it like public?
And she was like no, I'm so fucking proud of you.
I want the world to know. She's like I was
gonna do a post like I am stoked about this,
stoked about the song, stoked about the video, stoked for you,
(11:44):
like you.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Did this, own it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I'm a part of it, but it's your thing, but
like I don't care at all, Like I want the
world to know, like this is this is us.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
She was just so.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
She's just such a good human and she genuinely cares
about the people around her, and I am so lucky
had become one of those people. And I can't think
her enough truly. So, Megan, if you're ever hearing this,
I love you. I would do literally anything for you.
I'd take a bullet for you. You're the most amazing,
beautiful woman ever and I want to be just like
you when.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I grew up.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Anyways, the last person I want to talk about on
the team. There was a few more people on the
Guilty Pleasure team and this they all came from Paul's team.
But the last person that I want to talk about
on the song sort of team is this guy named Paul,
and he has DJ White Shadow. Now, Paul, I actually
went out on a limb and in twenty twenty, I
made a list and I was like, I want to
look up all my favorite songs, look up the producers,
(12:35):
and I want to make a list of who I
want to write with and who I want to produce with.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And Paul was.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
One of them. And now this list had twenty people
on it. I was obsessed with all these producers, a
lot of the same producers did like a lot of
the songs that I liked, and so it ended up
being it worked out really easily that there wasn't a
billion people, and I message all them on Instagram and
I just I shot my shot and I was just like, hey,
I love your work, like I love making music. I'm
(13:01):
gonna be tapping into a different music world soon, like
I would love to work with you. Pick your ear,
happy to be a part of my team. And everyone
responded like, oh, good luck, Oh have fun with that.
Paul responded and he was like, let's go, let's do this,
and so he took a meeting with me, and I
was I.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Was a baby.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I was only seventeen maybe maybe a fresh No, it
was still only seventeen because it was it was actually
it was before I came out, so that's for context,
like how early on in my life it was I
was straight. And so Paul we took he took a
call with me and he was like, look, he's like
you're a little young, but he was like I really
want to work with you. And he was like I
think you have something special and like let's freaking do this.
(13:39):
And we kind of just stayed in contact and then
when I signed with Columbia, they were like, who do
you want to work with? And I was like, actually,
I have I have a guy. I was like, I
want to work with this guy, Paul. Let's give him
a shot.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And Paul ended up.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Producing a bit of Karma along with Rock Mafia. Rock
Mafia started it, Paul finished it, and then Paul did
Guilty Pleasure. He he is, He's brilliant, and he gives
his two cents and his two cents and his ear
is unreal. He's done some of your favorite Gaga songs.
That's how I discovered him was through Gaga's music, and
so to have him be a part of this song
(14:12):
was just fascinating. And he now has like a bigger
picture play in my music world, which I'm so freaking
grateful for. But yeah, that is it's kind of the
team in the context behind the team of Karma and
the writing and the producing of the actual song.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But now back to the music video.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I've got two more things for you, and they both
are pretty freaking fascinating, So get ready for this. Five
things hidden in Guilty Pleasure. The fourth thing that is
hidden in Guilty Pleasure is that on set of the
music video. It actually was haunted. Now let me give
you some context. Let me not say that without bullshitting it,
like full transparency, This set was haunted. Wasn't until nighttime
(14:54):
that the people that were like, oh, by the way,
like you know, this is an iconic location, right, and
we were like, what do you mean. We're like, yeah,
this is where they filmed all the Saw movies SAW, like.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
The scary movies Saw. And we were like, oh cute.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
After they said that, so much freaky shit started happening.
I mean, lights going out, shit not working, Candle's Boy
like whax. So where we filmed the church stuff was
like upstairs and around a corner and like we all
thought we were gonna fall through the floor, Like it
was a little terrifying. Obviously we weren't and we were
very safe, but like, it was weird. And then get
(15:29):
freaking this. So if you'd watch all my BTS footage,
you'll notice that when we're in the like Zoltar booth area,
there's actually no real BTS footage, and the reason is
out of nowhere. Once it hit a certain hour, the
mic on the camera stopped working. So we have all
the footage, but there's no audience that we can't use
(15:49):
any of the like true bts. It's only like for
clips and stuff, and like there was no reason that
should should have happened. Like the MIC was working perfectly
fine when we left, like we used it together. The
next it was totally fine. Like nothing switch, not a
setting switched, nothing. All of a sudden when we were
filming outside, mic off like just like.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
The weirdest, freakiest, like what the are the odds of that?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And there was just a lot of stuff that happened
on set where we started off with the Teddy Bears
and that was fine. It was like a little eerie,
and then construction was totally fine. It was just super hot.
It was so hot while we were filming construction stuff.
It was literally like one hundred degrees in there. It
was wild. And then when we went to church, so
our order of operations was Teddy Bear, Construction, Church, Zoltar.
(16:35):
And when we went to church is when it started
to get real fricking creepy. And there was this one
show that I did on Deariam the tour at the
Masonic Temple, and that show was Haunted. It's in the
Masonic Temple I believe it's in Detroit, Michigan. And essentially
the building is like one of the oldest buildings in America.
It's one hundred stories tall. Like it's this crazy building,
(16:58):
but it is like known to be hot. Stuff's known
to go wrong at shows, like when you're in the
dressing room, like shit's gonna happen. And like when I
tell you it was accurate, I mean we got stuck
in an elevator. We found a pool that was abandoned
in the building, like wild. Have you ever seen the
movie There's this movie called as Above So Below, and
that is what it felt like. It felt like we
(17:19):
were in the freaking catacombs in Paris. But this location
of filming this video was the same feeling where you're
just like something's off about this place and I don't
know what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It's that same feeling, all right, everybody, We have made
it too.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Our last fun thing about Guilty Pleasure, last thing hidden
in the Guilty Pleasure music video.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
If you look at.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The construction set, you will see we have all these
tools in there.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We got saws, we.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Got wood, we got hammers, we got screwdrivers, we have
electrical panels, everything in there is real except.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
For our hammers.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
So like this power saw only real. Be careful, don't
touch it. The electrical panels in the back were like,
do not touch them.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
They are real. We are using them currently.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The wood that I'm holding fully real, fully, a real
blank wood. It wasn't supposed to be holding it at all.
I literally just thought I was like, this will be hot.
I want to hold it. But our hammers, our hammers
that we use and our hammers that we dance with
are fake. Now there's a couple of reasons for this.
Number one safety. Obviously, we should not be using a
metal heavy hammer that could hurt somebody, especially with us
(18:27):
dancing with them, flipping with them, being so in close
contact with each other, like you definitely want to stay safe. However,
these hammers are made out of styrofoam, so making it
look like it's a real hammer and making it feel
a little labored when you're using it. Especially when we
did the Bop Pop pop hammer flip, that was a
(18:49):
task in itself, like getting that to look just right,
so that way we made it believable was believe it
or not actually kind of hard. Now, am I grateful
that it was strofoam and not metal. Absolutely, but thank
god it ended up working. I could not get the
(19:09):
hammer flip for the longest time, I swear literally in rehearsals,
I think I did the hammer flip like twice, and
then on set I told everybody. I was like, look,
if you mess up the hammer flip, I was like,
it's totally fine. I was like, just tell me because
I don't want to finish the take and then be
editing and be like, crap, somebody dropped it, you know
what I mean, like, just tell me that way we
can fix it.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And nobody did except me. First take we did.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I dropped it and then I was like, Jojo, you
need to get your shit together.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Then I didn't drop it anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
There's this one time too, where somebody's hammer when we
do like the like big arm, big arm, like the
arm circles, somebody's hammer went flying and we were like,
thank god, it's fake. Thank god it's a fake, because
that thing would I mean, that would leave the mark
for sure, real hammer absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
All right, y'all. That That is.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
The five things that I have hidden in the Guilty
Pleasure music video. Now, look, I'm sure there's more things.
That y'all are gonna spot kind of like my tampon
flying out and that that is on you. I truly
just cannot believe the love behind the Guilty Pleasure music video.
I mean, I wanted to make a visual and a
vision that was bigger and more dramatic than Karma could
(20:21):
have ever been. And I think somehow, somehow we cracked
that code and the team behind Guilty and it's unreal.
It's the same team that is behind Karma, and I'm
gonna talk about Karma next week, so stay tuned for
that one.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And it is the same team.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Behind the music video, and they truly are just the best,
most brilliant people ever me Shaw. If you haven't already
check out the Guilty Pleasure music video, you can see
it on my YouTube channel. It is it is special.
It is special. It makes you turn your head and
it makes you go, what the fuck is wrong with her?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And quite honestly, I don't know what is? And that's okay.
Something is.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm sure any users, I have said the word any
hoosers forty two times in the last hour. I need
to can it with the word any hoosers?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Any users? I'm gonna get out of here.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I love y'all stream my new Eve be Guilty Pleasure
five new songs. I want to know what your favorite
of the five new songs is. For me personally, I
gotta go with Balance Baby. I freaking love that song.
I can't help it. I also I like Yesterday's Tomorrow's Today.
There's something different about that song, and I've had that
idea for that song since I was fourteen, and so
like to have it finally be out. It's like, wait,
(21:33):
I feel like it just came up with that idea
literally yesterday. But it's out now. Go stream everything, Go
check it out. Everybody listen to music. I freaking love you.
I freaking adore you. Thank you for hanging out with me.
Thank you for listening to Josh.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Be sure you stay nice, you stay kind, you stay happy,
you stay humble, you stay positive, stay a good human,
and just have fun.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
We literally only get one life. I love y'all, deuces,
Thank you so much for listening. Everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Be sure to follow us on Instagram and TikTok at
Jojes You Are Now podcast. Be sure to write us
a review, and maybe if you're feeling to leave us.
Five stars i'll see you next week.
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