October 1, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
All right. So there's so much discussion about where I
live and what it's like. And I was on the
Shared Private Play and the other day and saw this
woman that I had seen before, and we were in
the bathroom and she was like, I miss it here
because we just landed in New York. And I was like, right,
but you're here. And it's funny because everyone people wanted
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to find where I am in my life by where
I am right now. Like it's just I don't know
if it provokes something and other people about changes they
should be making or where they should be living. I
don't have imposter syndrome in my career, but I have
some version of it in my life now. Like we're
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so used to life being some version of a struggle,
Sunday scaries, dreading, Monday business trips, things you don't want
to do. Things you only have to do all your
kids are home. You have to go to all the
recitals and make the costumes or do the sports games
on the weekends and do the travel team and get
the snacks and be the class mom and go to
the parent teacher conferences and all the things.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
How is my life in Miami? Have I settled? In
How is.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It different than me being in Connecticut. Connecticut was a prison.
That's the honest truth. I could say it another way,
but for my personality at the point of my life,
Connecticut was a burden. It was a trap. It was
a prison. It was stifling, depressing, soul crushing. Not because
of the state of Connecticut, which is beautiful, because of.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
My life there.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Because I am older, I spend a lot of time alone.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I work a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I want to feel every day like I'm connected to
some version of nature. And while I would walk in
Connecticut and go on nature walks and it was nice.
Now every day I jump in the ocean, I am
in the salt water, I walk on the sand, I
feel the sand on my feet. I can't believe this
gets to be my life. This is what connects me
to the earth. Some people love the mountains, some people
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love a lake. Some people love a desert. Some people
love a cactus, some people love an open field. Love
what you want. Some people love the concrete jungle. I
like the ocean and jumping in the water. It saves
my life. So I could not be happier because even
if I'm lonely, bored, feel purposeless, depressed, sad. I still
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can connect to the ocean, and that's all that I
really need. So my life is now that I have
a better relationship with the New York. I have a
place in Miami. I have another place in Florida. I
have created the greatest life for myself where I don't
stay in hotels in New York or in Miami. I
have a beautiful home there if I want to go
there to do work, or to go on a date,
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or to have fond or to go out and dance
or to drink.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I've worked so hard, and it still works so hard
to get to live this life.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And it feels a little bit like I've never felt
imposter syndrome in what I have and in what I've
earned and what I've created and how much money I
have or fame or any of that stuff. I have
some cousin of impostor syndrome where I can't believe that
this is my life. Like somebody yesterday was like, what
are your goals? What career would you like to have?
I'm like, I have everything I want. No one has
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anything I want. I have a career that you can
only dream of. I can't believe this is my life
and real, and I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And when I walk on.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The beach every day, it's like doing yoga. I thank
the universe. I can't believe it. I can't believe I'm
in the water. I can't believe I get to wake
up at seven o'clock in the morning if I can't sleep,
go to the ocean. I just can't believe it. So
I'm thrilled. And it changed my life and my daughter's happier.
But I am thrilled. But it's really a life that
I made like this, like it was always some version
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of a struggle for me.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm just used to.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Not struggling in a way that many people in this
country unfortunately struggle. But my own version have a struggle
of not knowing what's going to happen to me and
how I'm going to support myself and how I'm going
to get there. And once you hit the cover off
the ball, if you're smart and you don't get caught
up in the joneses and showing off or anything like that,
if you're smart and you're smart with money, you can
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really never have to go back there again.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't mean like making one nice paycheck or one
nice thing. But if you've had one thing happen, like
you sell a house or a big bonus, or something
big happens, or someone leaves you money or you inherit it,
you can turn it into something positive. Like you could
probably always go in that direction if you're smart. People
get excited, people get greedy, people get stupid, people get insecure,
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and they want to show off. And I'm not any
of that, to be honest, I've always been pretty much
the wolves are at the end of the bed with
the money, meaning you never know when it could be
taken away. But then you get to a certain point
where you've been fairly smart, and for me, real estate
has been a part of that. Things that I know
that I could let go of at anytime and move
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at anytime.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Like I don't get over my skis.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I happen to like places that are of good size
and value. But I always like charm more than just
gigantic or I won't spend. I never spend more than
I can afford.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Never. It doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
When I was younger, I did, I had credit cards,
I'm a charge and have anxiety.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But now I definitely don't.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So what I've built is a life where I don't
have to work ever again if I don't want to.
My daughter doesn't have to work ever again. I like
to work, I like to have purpose. I like to
Actually it's not I don't know that. It's not that
I like to work. I'm not a workaholic. It's that
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I like to ide e and if I have an idea,
I like to execute it. That's sort of like it's
not an addiction, but it's it's just in my nature.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's just in my nature.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So an idea I'm going to execute, I'm going to
follow through five partners. I'm going to make them proud
and make them money. And that's just sort of how
I think about things. But this life now is pinch me.
I mean it's like I woke up this morning, bring
goes to school. I'm getting a rhythm, like when you
move someplace now you have to get your rhythm. Now
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this has become a new base for me. I'm traveling
a lot, but in burse meaning I'm going this Friday
to Paris for fashion week to walk in the Lorel
Paris Fashion Show, and then I'll run back to the
nest four days later, and then two weeks later or
ten days later, I'm going to New York and Vegas
for the Alex Cooper on Well Show. And then I
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go to New York for a photo shoot and things
like that, and then I come back to the nest.
You know, my daughter this weekend is going to see
some friends. We're kind of like, we're not peers. She's
a teen and I'm an adult, but peers in our
making our lives work for us in this new environment. Like,
she misses some of our friends from home. So because
I'm going to be away this it's a good time
for her to go to New York to go see them.
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Another weekend, her friend's going to come in and visit.
And last weekend we both stayed here so I could
take her to the University of Miami game.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Like, it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like where some version of a mom and teen a
roommate where we're both getting what we need to get done,
spending meaningful time in between and making it work for
the whole household. That's very unique. It's not like a
struggle or sacrifice for either of us. We're both right
now getting what we need. So this has become a
New Base. I have a big house here in Florida,
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and then I have a place in Miami, which is
like the city.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
That's like I consider that New York City.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
People are shocked by that that further up north, I
have a home. But then that I have a place
in Miami, but that is like a workplace, meaning I
go there, yes, if there's a concert, or if there's
a date, or if there's something fun. But there are
a lot of business appearances and opportunities that I've had
in Miami that have justified me buying that place. Because again,
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it's an investment, it's a write off, it's an investment,
and it's a place that I could move at anytime.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I always increase value.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So real estate becomes something great to use for you
if you're smart about it. So I woke up this
morning and bring I wake up. I wait for her
to come down so I can see her before she
goes to school and just give her a kiss. And
she's always so sweet in the morning, which is so nice.
She's not sweet when I walk in her rooms, that's
like a no no. But when she says good morning, mom,
I love you, and then she leaves, it's like a
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nice little button on the morning, and then I go
walk to the beach, which is I live at the
beach now in my life, this crazy life that I've created.
Three out of my four homes are on or right
at the beach. So I walk this morning, jump in
the ocean. I make sure I jump in the ocean
because that feels like medication, It feels like one with nature.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's the moment.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Try to create moments where you're grateful, like, yes, I
get I make a lot of money, and I get
amazing business opportuit comunities every day, and I get excited.
But there aren't that many moments where you actually stop
and say thank you to something, like to universe and
for me, every time I do a yoga class, which
isn't that often, even if I do a yoga DVD,
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at the end, I thank the universe and myself and
not in some like faux spiritual way. It's just what
comes to my body. It's just like thank you, like
I'm almost thanking myself. I'm just thinking all of it.
And when I go to the beach and take a walk,
I feel really good. But when I jump in the
water and swim, I am grateful. I can't believe my life.
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I can't believe it's happening. It just shifts everything. It's
really really good. I strongly recommend if you can get
in some water, it's just a different type of experience.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So that's how I started the day.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And even though I don't have that many friends in
my new environment, it's very different than when I was
in Connecticut and would take like a nature walk as
my big activity. But the going in the water makes
this whole house worth it. And even if I don't
have tons of here and I'm not social and I
don't even go out to dinner unless I'm going on
a date, Like in a whole week, I could be
at this house except for a manicure the whole entire time.
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That beach walk and ocean makes me feel like it
gives me purpose in living in this home, and that
can keep me going until I get on the plane
and go to the next work activity. So I'm very bursty.
I stay home, be healthy, nest, and then go burst
into the next exciting thing that, like on a global scale,
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would be exciting, you know, doing a Lorel Paris fashion show,
going to Paris, wearing all the outfits like acting like
this is what my entire life is, which it really isn't.
It's very small percentage of my life, but it will
feel and look like that in the coming days.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So that, to me is my cadence. That's just how
it works.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
What I'm saying is you find the lifestyle that works
for you within where you're living. Where you live does
and have to be the most important thing that defines you.
Like it's not like it's just that I'm living next
to the ocean that's making this feel like my entire
life is complete. But it's not like living here means
I have tons of friends and a social life and
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everything is perfect.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's just that I at least gave myself that to
make this change in life meaningful for myself.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I hope that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The base of where I'm living, being in an environment
that is conducive to that kind of like therapeutic effect
for me means that when I have to go to
New York for work, I'm like leaping. When I was
living in Connecticut, I was dragging into New York it
was only an hour. Now I'm leaping because it's like, wait,
I'm part of the New York City experience, Like everything
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feels like an adventure and a vacation and an experience,
where before it all felt like a drag. If I
wasn't in the right place and the right base.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I really wasn't.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And I am a work from home person that could
be challenging too. I'll say, like, sometimes I'm just wandering
around my house all day, you know, in slippers, and
I am making an effort. The pandemic fucked all that up.
When we were all on in pajamas every day and
just got into like ordering in food and never leaving,
it was really weird. And now I make an effort
to wear something cute, even though I'm not leaving the house.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like it's just that I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Seeing Jack who works with me, and he dresses really
cute every day, and I just want to make some
version of an effort to put on some of my clothes,
even if it's for one social media picture like a story,
just to be like, Hi, I woke up, I got dressed.
Otherwise I'm just like weirdo in sweats all the time.
So I'm liking that I'm making like an effort in
this house where the last house I was really in
pajamas half the time. It's a transition. I don't know
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if I'll be here forever and how long. And that
affects dating too, to be honest. You're dating people and
you kind of have a new dialogue, a new baseline
of who you want to meet. So that's kind of
weird because in life you want to think that there
might be a soulmate for you, but it really is
irrelevant if there is, because if they don't live in
the places where you live, then you're not going to
spend your life with them. It's just not the time
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where you want to start meeting people from Napa and Naples,
Like you just don't understand those areas. You're not moving there,
you have no connection to it, or Des Moines and wherever.
Someone at the Jersey Shore I was like, I get
the Jersey Shore and I know it, but I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
To live there.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So as you get older, you narrow your opportunities. My
dating now is like when the lottery was like at
billions of dollars. Me Meeting someone that is lined up
with where I am and what I'm doing is definitely
a long shot. So I'm excited to go to Paris
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Fashion Week. It feels different than last year. Last year
felt like I was an intruder and I was just
like so excited to be invited, which I am this year.
But this year, I feel like I'm going to act
like I belong a little bit more. I also, well,
don't have to do every single thing. I'd like to
make some of these work trips more of the big
thing that we're doing work, but the rest really relaxing
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and get a massage and have a nice meal and
enjoy instead of feeling like I have to do everything
and be everything. This next couple of months will be
the busiest, most exciting, big ticket item period of my
entire life and career. Everything I'm being asked to do
that I'm agreeing to do is so big. It's so like,
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wait what, It's such an opportunity, it's so outrageous. So
many things are coming that I can't believe the opportunities
I'm being presented. I can't believe the money I get
paid to do something. I can't believe that this entrepreneurial
glow up is at this age.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's like such a surprise, it's shocking.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm so grateful and as a result, I mean I've
had a little bit of a party lately, dating and drinking.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I mean, they go together, and I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Like you really like someone, you get excited for it,
and you start drinking, you're the best time ever with them,
and like maybe you're smooching, maybe you're dancing, but like
it's exhausting. It's exhausting at any age. But I am
still tired from partying last weekend. Like it's not worth it.
It actually is not worth it. It's fun to have like
a drink or so, but it's not worth it to
like just fucking shoot yourself in the foot.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's been an exhausting week.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So I'm gonna try to be inn a wellness ERA
to coincide with this opportunity ERA to like really be
focused on all these things and not come in on fumes.
This will be difficult to believe. This will be as
difficult to believe as the fact that I invented the
skinny margarita, not the skinny girl margarita. I invented the
skinny margarita. I invented the low calorie margarita. I created
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the low calorie cocktail space. I brought to life the
ready to drink cocktail space. I brought to life the
celebrity alcohol. It's hard to believe because people like George
Clooney and Ryan Reynolds and all these people. Diddy was
before me, but I made this popular with the media
that I got. Sorry, So I created the term food
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noise the way that we hear it today. Now people
have different definitions, so much so that people have argued
with me on social media trying to tell me with
the definition of a term that I created. In the
modern day, There's a man named Breck who talked about
noise and I allocated it to food, and I defined
what my version of food noise was and a food voice,
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and that became something that was in a book that
was on the New York Times bestseller list for five months.
So I think food is more associated with joy and
nourishment than it ever was, because people don't count calories
as much as seed oils and is it healthy for you?
And people do chia and sie and bowls and things
that are not low calorie but are good for you,
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and eat avocado and coconut. So I do think we've
moved in that direction. Back in my day, it was
either f it was low calorie. You didn't care if
it was good for you or not. You would have
taken arsenic to be thin. And now it's very different,
So we have evolved. Food will always be something that
people have to develop a relationship with because it's not
going away. You have to have it in your life.
I want to feel good, I want to feel happy,
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I want to feel healthy. I don't want to feel
like I'm dragging. But the opportunity tour is starting right now,
and let's just start it with this weekend, the Laurel
Paris fashion show. The runway show that last year I
was gigantic platform heels and it was like a giraffe
coming down the runway. And this year I'm not going
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to be a giraffe, but I do have giraffe pajamas
in a robe, just to play the joke. But this
will be the first big ticket item this weekend Paris,
and then I'll take you from there. I've been invited
to speak to Harvard University a couple of times. Like
there's so many things that it's going to be between
now and December. The most exciting time I've ever had
in my career. Okay, so people are asking me about
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connection and being a crowdsourcer. You can only trust your
opinion because everyone has a skewed version. I was talking
to one person about the Jimmy Kimmel situation. This is
a very very right, undeniable Republican. He is going to
confirmation bias every single aspect of a situation to make
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it fit towards his narrative. Meaning in every situation, everything
is fake news, everything is a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Jimmy Kimmel has.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
No ratings and he deserved to be off television. He
was talking about MAGA and they're a private company and
they can decide whether or not to take him on
or off.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And like that's one version. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Then another friend who's actually a Republican, who said, this
is now China. We are now in China or Russia.
It's unacceptable that a person can't opine on a president
who's a public figure, and this is becoming communism.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Then other people think it's just deplorable what happened to
Jimmy Kimmel. He's a comedian, he's allowed to express himself.
Then people go back to when Kathy Griffin held up
a Trump head and lost her whole career because that's
where the line is. And that's like burning a flag
because it's disrespecting a president. I mean, there are fifty
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shades of gray. You could be listening to Fox and
watching them nod their head and it all sounds amazing,
like your horoscope.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
It sounds just like you. It's you.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Then you change the channel, you listen to CNN. It
all sounds amazing, it sounds like your horoscope. It's just
like you. You have to try to use some logic
and take the source. I went on a date with
someone who was a hunter, very Republican, doesn't like Trump,
doesn't like him, he's a very strict Republican.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I went on a date with a liberal who who goes.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
To Burning Man and who is from the tech world
and thinks Trump's the devil and that what happened at
the Capitol is the worst thing that ever happened to
mankind and it's never been worse, and doesn't really acknowledge
the fact that everyone covered up the fact that Biden
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was like weekend at Bernie's, and that Kamala couldn't answer questions. Now,
this doesn't have to do with anything. You could be
a Democrat Republican. You can have an opinion. It really
hasn't been possible to have an opinion. Okay, So you're
talking to these different people and you're thinking about how
rigid each person is, how open mind it is each person.
Is this person like where you could basically trip them
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up and say something and see if they're just going
to always go in the same direction that they have,
if they can never change their opinion because they're so
scared of going to the dark side and having an
opinion opposite of what theirs is that they can never
say that Like that to me is insane. For a
person to blindly agree with every single ass respect of
what the Democrats have done and said, or to be
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completely blindly dedicated to everything that Republicans have done or said,
I think is insane. I think that's crazy to me,
Like there has to be some great I'm very open minded,
I'm very reasonable. That freaks people out. They're always trying
to like figure out what I am. Like I happen
to be open minded, I happen to make decisions in
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the moment based on what the circumstances are. It's just
who I am and so crowdsourcing, you are the one
whose opinion you trust. You're just listening to a bunch
of different things, and then sometimes you're taking blind faith.
You may not be right, and you may not be
able to even affect change. And in this world now,
not everything needs to be said. It's a very sensitive time.
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You could lose your entire career as a result of
saying something. So it's bullshit that everybody's supposed to be
so open and honest and authentic. You have to be
thinking what everybody else thinks you should think. At the time,
you were never allowed to question vaccines. You were never
allowed to question masks or COVID or how the man
was telling us how to do it. Everything was about Fauci.
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Everything was about Cuomo. When Cuomo was on television every day,
he was a god. But then the pendulum swings and
everybody hates him. Everything is like has a season and
a reason and people completely forget what they thought before.
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I've been doing the deepest dive on dating, like much
deeper than I have here. I've had dating coaches on here,
dating matchmakers. There are some things that have been true.
The guy Evan who came on Here said that dating
is interviewing for the most important position. Let's say it's
your personal life CEO, and you have to treat it
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as such. In the way that they act is a
way that you would consider whether or not you would
want to hire them.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And I really love that. I think that's accurate. That's great.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And there are other things I have and agreed with
on here about telling women to like lean into the
feminine and it almost gives damsel and distress. And there
are parts of what I've been told by matchmakers that
are like this person is like religious, so I know
you're not, but like you don't have to really mention
that or whatever. Like It's like what I have found
many surprises with intentional dating. Number one, everybody has different
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political views, and people walk in the door at least
men do, thinking that it could be a deal breaker
if someone's not aligned with their politics. And what I've
said point blank to two people right up front from
the jump is the following. I am a very open
minded and reasonable person. I mean, we do relief work
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for the Republicans, for Democrats, for Habad, for the Bible Belt.
We've sent aid to people suffering in Israel in God's
in Russia and Ukraine and Poland. Like we literally are
not political and I'm not a political person. There are
aspects of both parties that I understand, and I've been
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on CNN and Fox to promote my projects entertainment and
also relief work. So it's not a hedge and it's
not a waffle. It's just that I just do not
believe in a one size fits all model. And there
are different reasons for voting, from your body, to your mind,
to your wallet, to your kids, to education, to a
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myriad of things, to war. And I have said to people,
are we supposed to be meeting our clones are twins?
Because I'm open to having discussions or disagreeing or splitting
the difference or just understanding why someone else feels some way,
Like the Jimmy Kimmel situation with him being let go.
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I've had a few different opinions on it, and I'm
a crowdsourcer. I want to talk to you and here
you think why you voted for this person, why you
feel this way about that, what you think about this,
like there are different reasons. So anyway, I have my
own personal opinions about different aspects, Like I think that
a political leader must be someone that commands a presence.
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Should they also be someone that is respected, that people
think is smart, is compassionate, is a good business person,
is philanthropic? Is a maybe a good parent? Maybe not
a cheat. I mean, there's a thousand things that you
could think, but you have to put it together in
one crystallized answer. So anyway, I've been meeting people and
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saying to them like, hey, I just want to let
you know I'm not you and I have many different feelings,
but if you're very extreme, it might not work because
I'm not into extremes in politics or religion. I'm not
into extremes. It doesn't work for me. It makes me
feel uncomfortable. So I did not watch Dancing with the Stars,
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but I so some clips and Iladia is good, Like
there's a difference between being mechanically good and going through
the motions and having that flow and fluidity, and I
would not be that. People think I can dance, and
so they always think I should be on Dancing with
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the Stars, which I've been asked to do multiple times
since the early days, and I've declined because it's not
for me. But I think I wouldn't be great. I
don't think I would like have that like loose flow.
I would be going through the motions, maybe be able
to get the steps, but there wouldn't be a fluidity
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and an authenticity to it.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's looks really hard.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
So Iladia is doing superbly well and it was really
smart of her to do this. If your husband is
dead weight and boring, can you not bring him on
trips with your girlfriends and like dinners and things. It's
just it weighs the goddamn trip down. Like women want
to hang out with other women, like your husband can
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stay by himself, don't bring him. Don't come women, Like
a woman invites you for something you don't be, like, yeah,
I got to bring my husband, like nobody wants him around.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
We really don't.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
What's his value? Is he bringing fucking Is he a bartender?
Is he gonna DJ for us? Does he have like
goodie bags? Like we don't want dead weight husbands. I
have friends who have dead weight husbands. You may love them,
you may love the friends, you may love the husbands.
No dead weight, no dead weight and friendships in business
and husbands, we don't want it. We're not interested that's
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another night when you bring your own fucking dead weight.
I'll bring my own goddamn anchor on another night. But
we don't want that. Women want to talk to each
other about their vaginas, about their dating, about what was
on sale, about they smell, about their version on politics,
about their boobs, about not just being sexist, meaning women
have brains. But we don't want to talk with another
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man present about everything going on with us.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We just don't want that.
All right. So there's so much discussion about where I
live and what it's like. And I was on the
Shared Private Play and the other day and saw this
woman that I had seen before, and we were in
the bathroom and she was like, I miss it here
because we just landed in New York. And I was like, right,
but you're here. And it's funny because everyone people wanted
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to find where I am in my life by where
I am right now. Like it's just I don't know
if it provokes something and other people about changes they
should be making or where they should be living. I
don't have imposter syndrome in my career, but I have
some version of it in my life now. Like we're
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so used to life being some version of a struggle,
Sunday scaries, dreading, Monday business trips, things you don't want
to do. Things you only have to do all your
kids are home. You have to go to all the
recitals and make the costumes or do the sports games
on the weekends and do the travel team and get
the snacks and be the class mom and go to
the parent teacher conferences and all the things.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
How is my life in Miami? Have I settled? In
How is.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It different than me being in Connecticut. Connecticut was a prison.
That's the honest truth. I could say it another way,
but for my personality at the point of my life,
Connecticut was a burden. It was a trap. It was
a prison. It was stifling, depressing, soul crushing. Not because
of the state of Connecticut, which is beautiful, because of.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
My life there.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Because I am older, I spend a lot of time alone.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I work a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I want to feel every day like I'm connected to
some version of nature. And while I would walk in
Connecticut and go on nature walks and it was nice.
Now every day I jump in the ocean, I am
in the salt water, I walk on the sand, I
feel the sand on my feet. I can't believe this
gets to be my life. This is what connects me
to the earth. Some people love the mountains, some people
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love a lake. Some people love a desert. Some people
love a cactus, some people love an open field. Love
what you want. Some people love the concrete jungle. I
like the ocean and jumping in the water. It saves
my life. So I could not be happier because even
if I'm lonely, bored, feel purposeless, depressed, sad. I still
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can connect to the ocean, and that's all that I
really need. So my life is now that I have
a better relationship with the New York. I have a
place in Miami. I have another place in Florida. I
have created the greatest life for myself where I don't
stay in hotels in New York or in Miami. I
have a beautiful home there if I want to go
there to do work, or to go on a date,
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or to have fond or to go out and dance
or to drink.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I've worked so hard, and it still works so hard
to get to live this life.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And it feels a little bit like I've never felt
imposter syndrome in what I have and in what I've
earned and what I've created and how much money I
have or fame or any of that stuff. I have
some cousin of impostor syndrome where I can't believe that
this is my life. Like somebody yesterday was like, what
are your goals? What career would you like to have?
I'm like, I have everything I want. No one has
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anything I want. I have a career that you can
only dream of. I can't believe this is my life
and real, and I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And when I walk on.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The beach every day, it's like doing yoga. I thank
the universe. I can't believe it. I can't believe I'm
in the water. I can't believe I get to wake
up at seven o'clock in the morning if I can't sleep,
go to the ocean. I just can't believe it. So
I'm thrilled. And it changed my life and my daughter's happier.
But I am thrilled. But it's really a life that
I made like this, like it was always some version
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of a struggle for me.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm just used to.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Not struggling in a way that many people in this
country unfortunately struggle. But my own version have a struggle
of not knowing what's going to happen to me and
how I'm going to support myself and how I'm going
to get there. And once you hit the cover off
the ball, if you're smart and you don't get caught
up in the joneses and showing off or anything like that,
if you're smart and you're smart with money, you can
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really never have to go back there again.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't mean like making one nice paycheck or one
nice thing. But if you've had one thing happen, like
you sell a house or a big bonus, or something
big happens, or someone leaves you money or you inherit it,
you can turn it into something positive. Like you could
probably always go in that direction if you're smart. People
get excited, people get greedy, people get stupid, people get insecure,
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and they want to show off. And I'm not any
of that, to be honest, I've always been pretty much
the wolves are at the end of the bed with
the money, meaning you never know when it could be
taken away. But then you get to a certain point
where you've been fairly smart, and for me, real estate
has been a part of that. Things that I know
that I could let go of at anytime and move
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at anytime.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Like I don't get over my skis.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I happen to like places that are of good size
and value. But I always like charm more than just
gigantic or I won't spend. I never spend more than
I can afford.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Never. It doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
When I was younger, I did, I had credit cards,
I'm a charge and have anxiety.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But now I definitely don't.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So what I've built is a life where I don't
have to work ever again if I don't want to.
My daughter doesn't have to work ever again. I like
to work, I like to have purpose. I like to
Actually it's not I don't know that. It's not that
I like to work. I'm not a workaholic. It's that
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I like to ide e and if I have an idea,
I like to execute it. That's sort of like it's
not an addiction, but it's it's just in my nature.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's just in my nature.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So an idea I'm going to execute, I'm going to
follow through five partners. I'm going to make them proud
and make them money. And that's just sort of how
I think about things. But this life now is pinch me.
I mean it's like I woke up this morning, bring
goes to school. I'm getting a rhythm, like when you
move someplace now you have to get your rhythm. Now
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this has become a new base for me. I'm traveling
a lot, but in burse meaning I'm going this Friday
to Paris for fashion week to walk in the Lorel
Paris Fashion Show, and then I'll run back to the
nest four days later, and then two weeks later or
ten days later, I'm going to New York and Vegas
for the Alex Cooper on Well Show. And then I
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go to New York for a photo shoot and things
like that, and then I come back to the nest.
You know, my daughter this weekend is going to see
some friends. We're kind of like, we're not peers. She's
a teen and I'm an adult, but peers in our
making our lives work for us in this new environment. Like,
she misses some of our friends from home. So because
I'm going to be away this it's a good time
for her to go to New York to go see them.
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Another weekend, her friend's going to come in and visit.
And last weekend we both stayed here so I could
take her to the University of Miami game.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Like, it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like where some version of a mom and teen a
roommate where we're both getting what we need to get done,
spending meaningful time in between and making it work for
the whole household. That's very unique. It's not like a
struggle or sacrifice for either of us. We're both right
now getting what we need. So this has become a
New Base. I have a big house here in Florida,
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and then I have a place in Miami, which is
like the city.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
That's like I consider that New York City.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
People are shocked by that that further up north, I
have a home. But then that I have a place
in Miami, but that is like a workplace, meaning I
go there, yes, if there's a concert, or if there's
a date, or if there's something fun. But there are
a lot of business appearances and opportunities that I've had
in Miami that have justified me buying that place. Because again,
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it's an investment, it's a write off, it's an investment,
and it's a place that I could move at anytime.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I always increase value.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So real estate becomes something great to use for you
if you're smart about it. So I woke up this
morning and bring I wake up. I wait for her
to come down so I can see her before she
goes to school and just give her a kiss. And
she's always so sweet in the morning, which is so nice.
She's not sweet when I walk in her rooms, that's
like a no no. But when she says good morning, mom,
I love you, and then she leaves, it's like a
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nice little button on the morning, and then I go
walk to the beach, which is I live at the
beach now in my life, this crazy life that I've created.
Three out of my four homes are on or right
at the beach. So I walk this morning, jump in
the ocean. I make sure I jump in the ocean
because that feels like medication, It feels like one with nature.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's the moment.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Try to create moments where you're grateful, like, yes, I
get I make a lot of money, and I get
amazing business opportuit comunities every day, and I get excited.
But there aren't that many moments where you actually stop
and say thank you to something, like to universe and
for me, every time I do a yoga class, which
isn't that often, even if I do a yoga DVD,
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at the end, I thank the universe and myself and
not in some like faux spiritual way. It's just what
comes to my body. It's just like thank you, like
I'm almost thanking myself. I'm just thinking all of it.
And when I go to the beach and take a walk,
I feel really good. But when I jump in the
water and swim, I am grateful. I can't believe my life.
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I can't believe it's happening. It just shifts everything. It's
really really good. I strongly recommend if you can get
in some water, it's just a different type of experience.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So that's how I started the day.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And even though I don't have that many friends in
my new environment, it's very different than when I was
in Connecticut and would take like a nature walk as
my big activity. But the going in the water makes
this whole house worth it. And even if I don't
have tons of here and I'm not social and I
don't even go out to dinner unless I'm going on
a date, Like in a whole week, I could be
at this house except for a manicure the whole entire time.
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That beach walk and ocean makes me feel like it
gives me purpose in living in this home, and that
can keep me going until I get on the plane
and go to the next work activity. So I'm very bursty.
I stay home, be healthy, nest, and then go burst
into the next exciting thing that, like on a global scale,
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would be exciting, you know, doing a Lorel Paris fashion show,
going to Paris, wearing all the outfits like acting like
this is what my entire life is, which it really isn't.
It's very small percentage of my life, but it will
feel and look like that in the coming days.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So that, to me is my cadence. That's just how
it works.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
What I'm saying is you find the lifestyle that works
for you within where you're living. Where you live does
and have to be the most important thing that defines you.
Like it's not like it's just that I'm living next
to the ocean that's making this feel like my entire
life is complete. But it's not like living here means
I have tons of friends and a social life and
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everything is perfect.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's just that I at least gave myself that to
make this change in life meaningful for myself.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I hope that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The base of where I'm living, being in an environment
that is conducive to that kind of like therapeutic effect
for me means that when I have to go to
New York for work, I'm like leaping. When I was
living in Connecticut, I was dragging into New York it
was only an hour. Now I'm leaping because it's like, wait,
I'm part of the New York City experience, Like everything
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feels like an adventure and a vacation and an experience,
where before it all felt like a drag. If I
wasn't in the right place and the right base.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I really wasn't.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And I am a work from home person that could
be challenging too. I'll say, like, sometimes I'm just wandering
around my house all day, you know, in slippers, and
I am making an effort. The pandemic fucked all that up.
When we were all on in pajamas every day and
just got into like ordering in food and never leaving,
it was really weird. And now I make an effort
to wear something cute, even though I'm not leaving the house.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like it's just that I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Seeing Jack who works with me, and he dresses really
cute every day, and I just want to make some
version of an effort to put on some of my clothes,
even if it's for one social media picture like a story,
just to be like, Hi, I woke up, I got dressed.
Otherwise I'm just like weirdo in sweats all the time.
So I'm liking that I'm making like an effort in
this house where the last house I was really in
pajamas half the time. It's a transition. I don't know
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if I'll be here forever and how long. And that
affects dating too, to be honest. You're dating people and
you kind of have a new dialogue, a new baseline
of who you want to meet. So that's kind of
weird because in life you want to think that there
might be a soulmate for you, but it really is
irrelevant if there is, because if they don't live in
the places where you live, then you're not going to
spend your life with them. It's just not the time
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where you want to start meeting people from Napa and Naples,
Like you just don't understand those areas. You're not moving there,
you have no connection to it, or Des Moines and wherever.
Someone at the Jersey Shore I was like, I get
the Jersey Shore and I know it, but I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
To live there.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So as you get older, you narrow your opportunities. My
dating now is like when the lottery was like at
billions of dollars. Me Meeting someone that is lined up
with where I am and what I'm doing is definitely
a long shot. So I'm excited to go to Paris
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Fashion Week. It feels different than last year. Last year
felt like I was an intruder and I was just
like so excited to be invited, which I am this year.
But this year, I feel like I'm going to act
like I belong a little bit more. I also, well,
don't have to do every single thing. I'd like to
make some of these work trips more of the big
thing that we're doing work, but the rest really relaxing
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and get a massage and have a nice meal and
enjoy instead of feeling like I have to do everything
and be everything. This next couple of months will be
the busiest, most exciting, big ticket item period of my
entire life and career. Everything I'm being asked to do
that I'm agreeing to do is so big. It's so like,
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wait what, It's such an opportunity, it's so outrageous. So
many things are coming that I can't believe the opportunities
I'm being presented. I can't believe the money I get
paid to do something. I can't believe that this entrepreneurial
glow up is at this age.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's like such a surprise, it's shocking.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm so grateful and as a result, I mean I've
had a little bit of a party lately, dating and drinking.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I mean, they go together, and I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Like you really like someone, you get excited for it,
and you start drinking, you're the best time ever with them,
and like maybe you're smooching, maybe you're dancing, but like
it's exhausting. It's exhausting at any age. But I am
still tired from partying last weekend. Like it's not worth it.
It actually is not worth it. It's fun to have like
a drink or so, but it's not worth it to
like just fucking shoot yourself in the foot.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's been an exhausting week.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So I'm gonna try to be inn a wellness ERA
to coincide with this opportunity ERA to like really be
focused on all these things and not come in on fumes.
This will be difficult to believe. This will be as
difficult to believe as the fact that I invented the
skinny margarita, not the skinny girl margarita. I invented the
skinny margarita. I invented the low calorie margarita. I created
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the low calorie cocktail space. I brought to life the
ready to drink cocktail space. I brought to life the
celebrity alcohol. It's hard to believe because people like George
Clooney and Ryan Reynolds and all these people. Diddy was
before me, but I made this popular with the media
that I got. Sorry, So I created the term food
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noise the way that we hear it today. Now people
have different definitions, so much so that people have argued
with me on social media trying to tell me with
the definition of a term that I created. In the
modern day, There's a man named Breck who talked about
noise and I allocated it to food, and I defined
what my version of food noise was and a food voice,
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and that became something that was in a book that
was on the New York Times bestseller list for five months.
So I think food is more associated with joy and
nourishment than it ever was, because people don't count calories
as much as seed oils and is it healthy for you?
And people do chia and sie and bowls and things
that are not low calorie but are good for you,
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and eat avocado and coconut. So I do think we've
moved in that direction. Back in my day, it was
either f it was low calorie. You didn't care if
it was good for you or not. You would have
taken arsenic to be thin. And now it's very different,
So we have evolved. Food will always be something that
people have to develop a relationship with because it's not
going away. You have to have it in your life.
I want to feel good, I want to feel happy,
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I want to feel healthy. I don't want to feel
like I'm dragging. But the opportunity tour is starting right now,
and let's just start it with this weekend, the Laurel
Paris fashion show. The runway show that last year I
was gigantic platform heels and it was like a giraffe
coming down the runway. And this year I'm not going
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to be a giraffe, but I do have giraffe pajamas
in a robe, just to play the joke. But this
will be the first big ticket item this weekend Paris,
and then I'll take you from there. I've been invited
to speak to Harvard University a couple of times. Like
there's so many things that it's going to be between
now and December. The most exciting time I've ever had
in my career. Okay, so people are asking me about
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connection and being a crowdsourcer. You can only trust your
opinion because everyone has a skewed version. I was talking
to one person about the Jimmy Kimmel situation. This is
a very very right, undeniable Republican. He is going to
confirmation bias every single aspect of a situation to make
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it fit towards his narrative. Meaning in every situation, everything
is fake news, everything is a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Jimmy Kimmel has.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
No ratings and he deserved to be off television. He
was talking about MAGA and they're a private company and
they can decide whether or not to take him on
or off.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And like that's one version. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Then another friend who's actually a Republican, who said, this
is now China. We are now in China or Russia.
It's unacceptable that a person can't opine on a president
who's a public figure, and this is becoming communism.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Then other people think it's just deplorable what happened to
Jimmy Kimmel. He's a comedian, he's allowed to express himself.
Then people go back to when Kathy Griffin held up
a Trump head and lost her whole career because that's
where the line is. And that's like burning a flag
because it's disrespecting a president. I mean, there are fifty
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shades of gray. You could be listening to Fox and
watching them nod their head and it all sounds amazing,
like your horoscope.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
It sounds just like you. It's you.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Then you change the channel, you listen to CNN. It
all sounds amazing, it sounds like your horoscope. It's just
like you. You have to try to use some logic
and take the source. I went on a date with
someone who was a hunter, very Republican, doesn't like Trump,
doesn't like him, he's a very strict Republican.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I went on a date with a liberal who who goes.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
To Burning Man and who is from the tech world
and thinks Trump's the devil and that what happened at
the Capitol is the worst thing that ever happened to
mankind and it's never been worse, and doesn't really acknowledge
the fact that everyone covered up the fact that Biden
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was like weekend at Bernie's, and that Kamala couldn't answer questions. Now,
this doesn't have to do with anything. You could be
a Democrat Republican. You can have an opinion. It really
hasn't been possible to have an opinion. Okay, So you're
talking to these different people and you're thinking about how
rigid each person is, how open mind it is each person.
Is this person like where you could basically trip them
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up and say something and see if they're just going
to always go in the same direction that they have,
if they can never change their opinion because they're so
scared of going to the dark side and having an
opinion opposite of what theirs is that they can never
say that Like that to me is insane. For a
person to blindly agree with every single ass respect of
what the Democrats have done and said, or to be
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completely blindly dedicated to everything that Republicans have done or said,
I think is insane. I think that's crazy to me,
Like there has to be some great I'm very open minded,
I'm very reasonable. That freaks people out. They're always trying
to like figure out what I am. Like I happen
to be open minded, I happen to make decisions in
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the moment based on what the circumstances are. It's just
who I am and so crowdsourcing, you are the one
whose opinion you trust. You're just listening to a bunch
of different things, and then sometimes you're taking blind faith.
You may not be right, and you may not be
able to even affect change. And in this world now,
not everything needs to be said. It's a very sensitive time.
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You could lose your entire career as a result of
saying something. So it's bullshit that everybody's supposed to be
so open and honest and authentic. You have to be
thinking what everybody else thinks you should think. At the time,
you were never allowed to question vaccines. You were never
allowed to question masks or COVID or how the man
was telling us how to do it. Everything was about Fauci.
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Everything was about Cuomo. When Cuomo was on television every day,
he was a god. But then the pendulum swings and
everybody hates him. Everything is like has a season and
a reason and people completely forget what they thought before.
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I've been doing the deepest dive on dating, like much
deeper than I have here. I've had dating coaches on here,
dating matchmakers. There are some things that have been true.
The guy Evan who came on Here said that dating
is interviewing for the most important position. Let's say it's
your personal life CEO, and you have to treat it
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as such. In the way that they act is a
way that you would consider whether or not you would
want to hire them.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And I really love that. I think that's accurate. That's great.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And there are other things I have and agreed with
on here about telling women to like lean into the
feminine and it almost gives damsel and distress. And there
are parts of what I've been told by matchmakers that
are like this person is like religious, so I know
you're not, but like you don't have to really mention
that or whatever. Like It's like what I have found
many surprises with intentional dating. Number one, everybody has different
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political views, and people walk in the door at least
men do, thinking that it could be a deal breaker
if someone's not aligned with their politics. And what I've
said point blank to two people right up front from
the jump is the following. I am a very open
minded and reasonable person. I mean, we do relief work
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for the Republicans, for Democrats, for Habad, for the Bible Belt.
We've sent aid to people suffering in Israel in God's
in Russia and Ukraine and Poland. Like we literally are
not political and I'm not a political person. There are
aspects of both parties that I understand, and I've been
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on CNN and Fox to promote my projects entertainment and
also relief work. So it's not a hedge and it's
not a waffle. It's just that I just do not
believe in a one size fits all model. And there
are different reasons for voting, from your body, to your mind,
to your wallet, to your kids, to education, to a
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myriad of things, to war. And I have said to people,
are we supposed to be meeting our clones are twins?
Because I'm open to having discussions or disagreeing or splitting
the difference or just understanding why someone else feels some way,
Like the Jimmy Kimmel situation with him being let go.
(24:55):
I've had a few different opinions on it, and I'm
a crowdsourcer. I want to talk to you and here
you think why you voted for this person, why you
feel this way about that, what you think about this,
like there are different reasons. So anyway, I have my
own personal opinions about different aspects, Like I think that
a political leader must be someone that commands a presence.
(25:16):
Should they also be someone that is respected, that people
think is smart, is compassionate, is a good business person,
is philanthropic? Is a maybe a good parent? Maybe not
a cheat. I mean, there's a thousand things that you
could think, but you have to put it together in
one crystallized answer. So anyway, I've been meeting people and
(25:37):
saying to them like, hey, I just want to let
you know I'm not you and I have many different feelings,
but if you're very extreme, it might not work because
I'm not into extremes in politics or religion. I'm not
into extremes. It doesn't work for me. It makes me
feel uncomfortable. So I did not watch Dancing with the Stars,
(25:59):
but I so some clips and Iladia is good, Like
there's a difference between being mechanically good and going through
the motions and having that flow and fluidity, and I
would not be that. People think I can dance, and
so they always think I should be on Dancing with
(26:19):
the Stars, which I've been asked to do multiple times
since the early days, and I've declined because it's not
for me. But I think I wouldn't be great. I
don't think I would like have that like loose flow.
I would be going through the motions, maybe be able
to get the steps, but there wouldn't be a fluidity
(26:40):
and an authenticity to it.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's looks really hard.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
So Iladia is doing superbly well and it was really
smart of her to do this. If your husband is
dead weight and boring, can you not bring him on
trips with your girlfriends and like dinners and things. It's
just it weighs the goddamn trip down. Like women want
to hang out with other women, like your husband can
(27:06):
stay by himself, don't bring him. Don't come women, Like
a woman invites you for something you don't be, like, yeah,
I got to bring my husband, like nobody wants him around.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
We really don't.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
What's his value? Is he bringing fucking Is he a bartender?
Is he gonna DJ for us? Does he have like
goodie bags? Like we don't want dead weight husbands. I
have friends who have dead weight husbands. You may love them,
you may love the friends, you may love the husbands.
No dead weight, no dead weight and friendships in business
and husbands, we don't want it. We're not interested that's
(27:36):
another night when you bring your own fucking dead weight.
I'll bring my own goddamn anchor on another night. But
we don't want that. Women want to talk to each
other about their vaginas, about their dating, about what was
on sale, about they smell, about their version on politics,
about their boobs, about not just being sexist, meaning women
have brains. But we don't want to talk with another
(27:58):
man present about everything going on with us.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We just don't want that.
Host
Bethenny Frankel
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