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May 15, 2025 15 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I do not know where to start today. I have
a lot to say. I can't breathe. Sometimes I realize that,
like I get on here and I get excited to
tell you guys things and I can't breathe, and breathing
feels relevant, critical and important. So I posted yesterday about
loneliness and wow, did it hit and did it strike

(00:33):
a chord with people? If something I'm really thinking about
I'm reflecting on, particularly on a day like Mother's Day
when I just want to say something about myself. I
don't have a great bedside manner. I hugged one of
my staff members today and I think she's in shock
because I get into it. I'm not big on four

(00:53):
place small talk. I'm like, Hi, okay, did we get that?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Do we do that?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm the person that will send somebody a text to
do something, and then that passag person will text me
back good morning. I'm like, well, fuck off, we could
do pleasantries later.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
That being said.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Somehow, with my crowded brain that never stops thinking, I'm
always aware, like I notice everything, it just sometimes can
be on a delay. I notice how people are feeling,
what they're going through. I am an EmPATH and I
have compassion, I just don't show it. I got this,
I think from my father. My mother was an extremely cold,

(01:29):
scathing person, you know, like she could just cut through,
but she used that to the end in a very
bad way, where she would literally smash everything in the
house and she would go below the belt.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I don't really go below the belt.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I just have like a skating cold way about me
that can be like not fuzzy, but I am a
warm person and I have like the combination.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So it's confusing to people, right.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I think probably people who are attracted to me will
love me know that part of me, and that's what
brings them in. But I'm very guarded and not trusting,
and I really trust only a very small group of people.
But by the same token, like I'm aware of big
swings and things going on. So I'm aware that it's
Mother's Day, and I'm aware that people are alone or

(02:13):
single moms or lost people or their kids or their
husbands didn't or their partners or their boyfriends or their
self grand kids didn't reach out, you know, and like
I may my daughter reach out to someone to make
them feel good because they're older and like kids can
be fleeting and forget things in the moment they think

(02:34):
about it, but then the next moment they do something else,
And I think we have to like hold people to that.
And in that day, I was thinking about this move
and I had a slightly unpleasant start with my daughter.
I won't get into that, of course, so I was
a little bummed. I was a little sad, I was
a little sleep deprived. It was just like, it's not
like my birthday, which I despise, but sometimes there's a

(02:56):
day that if it's not what you wanted it to be,
or it's a disappointment, it can be a weird day.
And then something happened where I wanted to honor my team,
the moms for my team, and do something that I've
never done before, and I won't get into that detail,
but that got botched too, and I was upset about that.
And I'm a person that when something gets ruined, I
get very very upset, like I can't get out of it.
So I was upset for partially something I happened with

(03:19):
my daughter, and then I was upset that I didn't
get to honor everybody on the day and the way
that I wanted to, particularly because I've never done it before,
and it was the first time that I had the
best intentions and effort and knowing myself. This morning, everyone
will come into work and we're moving, and it will
be like, not huggy, kissy, you know, how is your
day and has the weather and had your sleep, which
I do, but sometimes we're right into the action, and

(03:39):
I do want to work on that. This morning I
was like, Okay, be kind. Not that I'm not kind,
I can just be like direct. So yesterday was the day,
and it had a weird start and I ended up
on a rooftop of my daughter and we were just talking,
and we're talking a lot about this move to each other,
Like she has a very good friend, a best friend
that you know, she really gonna miss, and I'm feeling

(04:01):
like more than secondhand, like first hand sadness about that.
I'm very nostalgic and I don't like her leaving this
best friend, Like she literally would stay and we would
not move this entire house and this entire crazy move
for this one friend, which is completely certifiable, but like
I love this one friend for her, so I'm sad
about that, and like she has a best friend, like

(04:22):
she has a best friend who's just like her in
the similar way that she's sweet and cute and like
smart and slightly like flighty and ditsy and like fashionable.
And I'm just a little broken hearted about that. And no,
she'll love new friends, but like my best friends are
from high school, so I have anxiety about that. And
then you know, I'm a very OCD person, so like

(04:45):
we have to do this, and we have to do that,
and we have to unbraid this, and we have to
do that, and the staffing and it's just like I'm
very activated right now. I'm very heightened, I'm very wound up.
I'm very manic, and I'm manic on a normal day.
So there's a lot going on. I'm not a person
that's scared to move. I know that this is a
move in the right direction. Do I know that Florida
and where I'm moving is like my life's dream. That's

(05:06):
so irrelevant because I'm just moving in the right direction,
And so is my is my daughter because we don't
have a community where we live, and I need for
my daughter because we have a smaller family because both
my parents are dead and she has good grandparents that
she loves, and a number of different things, but it's
not I don't know, she has enough siblings, so I
want a community for her. And we have a community

(05:28):
in Florida. Like yesterday we spent Mother's Day with my
friend Terry from high school and her husband and her
son and daughter, and we did that same thing last year.
We went to see a play and we went to dinner.
And it feels like now we might have a tradition starting.
And that's what my daughter loves. Like every year for
Christmas Eve, she and I go to the Hamptons by
ourselves and we go get the special ornament at the
one place, and we go ice skating and then we
come back for the day at the main house. And like,

(05:51):
I don't know, that's probably will probably in the future
spend Christmas in the Hamptons unless I'm in a relationship
or something like that. Like I want her to feel
part of something, and she loves that. And she loved
that with my last relationship because it was like she
felt like she was part of something, but that was
a little insul or two that wasn't like as warm
as what we love and are looking for. I have
a big community there so we can feel like we're

(06:12):
part of something. And yesterday I was honest with my
audience kind of because I'm being honest with myself too.
When we have things that are going on and we
can't control them, we don't bring them up, we stifle them.
And it's almost more annoying, even in therapy to talk
about something it doesn't matter, I can't do anything about it,
and then someone wants to help you manage it, and

(06:33):
you know that's frustrating. I will say that I've been
very lonely living in the suburbs in Connecticut because I
haven't known anyone. And then if someone's like, you should
meet friends, It's like, I don't want to meet friends.
Like you're a certain age, I don't want to meet friends,
you know, I just don't want to. And I also
don't trust people. And I'm also a public person, so
it layers that, and no one wants to hear a
public person complain about being a public person. But like,

(06:55):
I don't know who wants to be friends of me
because of me, and I don't just want to make
new friends, and so I've been really insular. And guess what,
I'm a very insular person to begin with. So the
pandemic gave me license to be as insular as I
want and no one would notice. That's the difference. No
one would notice. And because everybody's being that, and so

(07:16):
you feel like you have a group with you that's
being that. And then the pandemic opens up and you're like,
oh wait, now we're like over here and a lot
of people.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Are going through this.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
A lot of people are going through it in ways
that like people haven't put on heels in years because
it just said why are we putting on heels? The
sweatpants generation completely woke up an aviator nation and all
this like lounge set life happened because of the pandemic.
The pandemic affected fashion, like in many cases people don't
care about pants because of zooms.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Like it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I it was very insular and I was in a relationship,
but it didn't matter because I was like home alone
with Britain, and then moved to the suburbs, had a
really good feeling, and then suburbs exploded in real estate
and now people are just getting back into recovering and
realizing they're being social. It fucked up a lot of people,
and people don't realize it. We think we're out of it,
but things change, trends changed. So now I'm in a

(08:24):
place where I'm alone all the time, to the point
where I'm not going to get in the car and
go drive seven minutes into the town to like shop
or go to a museum or go to a workout class.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Like that's not me.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
My type of being social is either going to something
amazing it's an amazing event, or just walking outside and
like seeing something. So if I go on a vacation,
I like to stay near a town. Yes, up, beach
is number one, But I don't like to be on
a beach forty minutes from a town cause I like
to walk in and get a coffee that feels like
I did something, I saw someone who lived there, I
experienced the culture. I got a little sandwich, Like I

(08:58):
come back, I look at a little leather makeer, like
in Italy, like on a street, like I like to
see something. Because I'm not that social and I like
to be alone, but alone with people. So in Miami,
for example, which isn't where I'll be living most of
the time, that's where I have a place I can
just walk outside and like see somebody on a rollerblade

(09:19):
or at the beach and I'm not talking to them,
but I could get a coffee, like I've breathed the
air and experienced human life.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
And that's what it's like. When I'm in the city.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I wake up and I don't ever go to a
gym or do anything like that, but I like walk
to the park and get a juice and experience something
and post something for the people and do the Lord's work,
and it just feels like I'm part of something. And actually,
this move to Florida, I think is gonna reinstate and
revitalize my relationship with New York City because now I

(09:47):
live in the suburbs in Britain. Because with teenagers, they
don't want to be like shuffling around so much. And
when you're a divorce kid, that happens to begin with
her stuff is in Connecticut. You know, she's school in Connecticut,
like you're in Connecticut. So if I go in the city,
I'm going in for a panel, I'm going in for
a business thing. It's transactional. Go in, get makeup done,
do social media, do the appearance, come home, repeat, Like

(10:11):
it's not like you're having a relationship with the city.
You're just going in and like getting out. You're not
like walking around and you know, going to a market
and looking at a farm stand. And this weekend for
Mother's Day, we went in because we were meeting my
friend and her family and Brennan and I were walking
around the city. We went to like a street fair
and just bought disgusting, gross pickles and like bought a

(10:33):
vintage pair of shorts that was woven. Like it was
just like we were experiencing And that to me was like, wait,
this moved to Florida means when I come to New
York for work, I'm going to experience the city again.
I'm going to have a relationship with the city because
I'll be staying in my apartment and I'll be having
this experience.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
It's a big shift.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And I just want to say that I haven't been
honest about my loneliness. I've been I've been insular. I
haven't said anything because we do things for our kids.
This is a moment in time. I'm not gonna like
shake up and move my kid when she's doing well.
And so I just was honest with my audience about this,
and it really struck a chord and hit a nerve

(11:15):
like obviously civilians and normal people.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And then like.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Porscha from Atlanta reached out on my Porscha she's always
like glammed up and like looked like a glamazon and whatever,
but she said, I experienced. I know what you're saying,
and I've never I don't even know that Porsha knows me.
I've never even heard from her that spoke to her.
Kristin Channawi like a lot of us seem like we're
one thing. I'm really another. I am an introvert. I
am insular. It's crazy, it doesn't make any sense. But

(11:40):
I'm gonna explain to you. I go out last week
to Miami, and I turn it out. I get dressed,
I make it madder, I talk to people. I'm social.
To me, that's the biggest thing in the world. Then
I hide because it was too much for me. And
then like I know friends who are like, yeah, since
after Miami, I did this, I did that, I did

(12:02):
the other thing. I'm going to chipry on ets and
and I'm like, what, like what I am still recovering
today a week ago from that, Because it's not just
the physical and it's not the staying out late, which
was amazing and fun, and I went on this incredible
major boat and met some interesting people and had the
greatest time. But like that, I gave it all I got.
That was the marathon. Like I put my back, my soul,

(12:25):
my body, my blood, my hydration, all of it, my
pores into it, got home and like it took five
days to unbraid that. That's me storing up. Now I'm
the camel or the bear. That's like hibernating until the
next thing. And that's week in a May thirty first,
Like I'll go to the Hampton Memorial Day weekend, I'll
fiddle around my house, I'll go on the boat like

(12:46):
all normal things, like nice things, go to dinners, but
like I won't like burst like that for a month
from that. So it's weird when you see people that
are seem so out there and it seems like what
are they talking about? How are they an introvert but
or an insular or whatever you call it. I don't
need to label myself, but like I'm just telling you
that I left my own devices could be in the

(13:09):
house for days on end, and I could even do
that in like a city when I used to live
in New York City, but you walk outside and go
to the chew a pair, or go to get your
nails done, or leave the house.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
So I think this move will be great.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
And I guess I'm also like validating a lot of
you that feel this because a lot of people at
a certain age, they've been taking care of older parents,
their kids have gone to college.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
There's a transition in your life.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You don't realize you've been surviving but not thriving. The
work life balance is not the ultimate balance. The ultimate
balance is between surviving and thriving. You're just going through
the motions. You're cooking, you take your kids to school,
you make the costume, you make the thing, you do that,
you be the wife, you do whatever, you go to work.
It's going fine. You're going well. Your healthy things are good.
You hug your dogs, you love your life, you laugh sometimes,

(13:54):
you watch good shows. You're not dead, but you feel
a little dead. And then you decide, wait, I don't
want to just survive this thing. I want to I
want to thrive this thing. And that's the difference. And
that's kind of where I'm at right now. And I
do think it shows and I'm slowly explaining this to
people as I realize it myself, as my daughter says

(14:15):
to me, I didn't realize you were so unhappy and
so lonely. And it's like I kind of didn't either.
There's nothing to say. So now I've said it and
it's out. And I really always love if I can
say something to connect to other people and help them.

(14:36):
You know, it's never really about me.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean, I just.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Don'ted to you on Mother's Day, be like, hi, and
this is a shout out to mother's, furry baby mother's.
If you don't't a mother, if you don't have a mother, Like, yes,
that'll mean something. But we've heard that all like you
need to get deep and like really connect to people
so they can feel better about what they're going through
on a day like Mother's Day. So that was really
the rose of my Mother's Day, being able to share

(14:59):
something that could help other people. If you saw the
amount of people in my comments, be like, wait, this
was me, This is me. This speaks to me. I
want to do this, I want to move. I didn't
even realize I was thinking this, like all that stuff
people stifle. Everybody stifles men, women, everyone, stifles kids.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
So it's not to be

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Dumping shit out all the time, but once in a
while we have to unstifle
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