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August 13, 2025 10 mins

More advice from Dating University! Trust your gut, trust your Board of Advisors (you have one, right?)--and FACETIME them before you go!

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
So I've been talking about aboarding dates because I've aboorded
multiple dates, and I've been talking about this on social media,
and later I'm going to get into the stories. But
the data Board is about cutting your losses. It doesn't
mean just being afraid and running into your cave. It
means doing a little bit of due diligence and trusting
your gut and your instincts and if something feels bad
in your body, not going. So you got to find

(00:36):
that line between being scared and just not wanting to
put yourself out there and in something not feeling right
in your body. And sometimes something doesn't feel right in
my body and it feels like a pink flag, and
I'll go and I'll do a deeper dive as a
result of that. And it's left me inside someone's divorce agreement,
finding out that their ex wife supports them and that
they were lying about how much they make. It's left

(00:59):
me finding out that someone was lying and pretending they
live in a certain area that they don't, that they're
hanging out with a certain wealthy person that they're not.
And it's left me realizing that a person wouldn't give
me their last name and I could have mistakenly met
with them and put myself a risk, like dating is

(01:19):
also a risky business. And so I've aboarded multiple dates.
And it's not because I think I'm better then. It's
not because I will never be happy and I can't
be alone and I just have to wait. I'm not ready.
It's not because of any of those things. It's because
I don't want to go out on a date with
someone who is supporting a woman who asked me to
pick them up on the way to the date. I
don't feel good about it. And one thing I talk

(01:42):
a lot that comes up in every time I talk
about a dat aboard, I don't like how it makes
me feel. I don't like how this is making me
feel like you're allowed to say that, you're allowed to
be that. I had a guy on a text very
early in I don't know this person, I've never met them.

(02:02):
Start judging the fact that I'm friends with a married
couple and go to dinner at their house and we'll
sit next to the man in the married couple because
he's a business minded person and we talk about business.
And I had a guy say to me like, don't
tell me that he wouldn't want to fuck you. I'm like,
excuse me. He's like, yeah, your friend is comfortable. I
don't know this guy. I'm like, are you okay? I go,

(02:24):
I don't like how this is making me feel. Please
don't call me again. Like there's a strength in that.
There's a strength and a dat aboard. There's a strength
in saying I don't like how you're making me feel. Now.
By the way, if you have to say that sentence,
it's probably somebody. It's something you should a borught. You
should be like, please don't call me again if you
get to that point, like it means if someone's like
texting you back and forth a little much, but if

(02:45):
they're being a little sleazy and you don't feel the
way that someone's texting you or something, or the way
someone's talking to you on a day, like oh maybe
it shouldn't have worn panties tonight on the first day,
people go sleez and I don't know how you feel
about that, but for me, am I judging you. If
someone is gonna go sleeze like go and people go
sleeze early. I've had someone say oh yeah, like something

(03:07):
like that. Wow, I like, if you wore a shorter
skirt or I have about not wearing one pieces, Like
I've had people go sleeze and I'm like, yeah, I
don't like that. I don't do sleazy, And maybe you
just have to get yourself through the check and get
through the date, Like maybe it's not bad enough that
you're gonna get up and walk out, which I would
absolutely do too, but I don't like how this is
making me feel. And I've done it where someone has

(03:27):
been so different than what was supposed to be set
up with and you feel enraged and you gaslight yourself
where you feel like a bad person that you want
to get up because the person didn't present is who
they are. The person presented a certain way, you know,
on their profile or in their picture or was described
a certain way, and then you see somebody totally different,
and now you are gaslighting yourself because you feel like

(03:48):
you're being superficial because you thought the person was tall
and they're short, because you thought something and it's something else,
and you feel guilty. And that's sort of like you're
gaslighting yourself because the person intentionally or unintentionally kind of
duped you. Like you need to look like what you've
presented as, you need to be what you've presented as.
And I'm sorry if this is going to be a

(04:09):
hardcore business, because it is. But I have been out
and i have gotten up and I've said I'm so sorry.
I don't think this is a fit because I'm not
leaving my house and leaving my child and leaving my
dogs and getting duped, which is why you must FaceTime.
You must FaceTime. If you're meeting people on apps, like
it's not a discussion, you're not going out and getting
dressed and taking that risk. It's gonna make you feel bad.

(04:31):
And you don't want to risk how something's gonna make
you feel, because if it makes you feel bad, it's
going to deter you from wanting to go when it's
gonna be good, and then you'll get full and feel
bad about yourself and not want to go because you're defeated.
So you've got to really treat your time wisely. So
when people are thinking I'm being too precious about it,
someone was like, well, maybe they're busy and their text
game is off or something. Because someone that I made

(04:53):
a date with weeks before, on the day of that
I text in the morning by eleven thirty. I feel
like a loser. I don't like how it's making me
feel that I don't know where we're going. And if
we're still even on and I've blocked out that night,
I text the person. They don't text you back within
a couple of hours like, yeah, no, we don't have
to go, It's okay, we'll do it another night. Why
Because I don't like how this is making me feel

(05:15):
like as a woman, you've got to be strong enough
to say that, and that's your intuition, that's your gut,
and you could say the words out loud, or you
can know the words and back out. Quality over quantity.
This is not a volume business. This is a patient business.
So that's how I feel about aboarding dates Absolutely something
I completely condone. I don't care what the person is
going to think about. You do it nicely, be confident.

(05:37):
If someone's being a sleezebag, also do it just confidently
and emphatically and block. It's my opinion that when you're dating,
you should have a dating board of advisors, and that

(05:59):
means some trust. People. Could be someone you work with,
it could be a girlfriend, it could be a guy.
Whoever it is. It should be a group that you
can go ask questions, tell them the situation. Everything doesn't
have to be somebody you want to marry. It could
be someone you're just dating, and then you're going to
give them the context to be able to be honest
with you about who's paying. Do I go on this trip?

(06:22):
Do I have sex? Do not? Does it matter? Does
it matter that he goes to church twice a week?
Does it matter that he has four kids? Does it
matter that his kids are young? Like, have a dating
board of advisors that are not going to be yes,
people that are going to push back and then crowdsource.
I'm a big crowdsourcer of opinions with business and with

(06:45):
personal and then I ultimately make a good decision. But
that does reflect the advice I've gotten. Nothing's worse than
getting advice from people and then realizing you're just asking
them to hear your self talk like You've got to
be a person that is willing to validate and take
other people's opinions and criticisms and in your minds assigning

(07:05):
who those people are. It doesn't mean it's not an
official board. It's ridiculous, But people that also feel like
they're part of it and you're including them and you're
validating and thanking them. You got to thank them, thank
you so much. Like it's a lot of work to
be on that board. If someone's in the dating process,
then they're not. But sometimes they're entertained by it. Sometimes
they're married they find it fun. I have you know

(07:26):
a major guy who's very successful and his wife that
are on that board of mine that I'll ask questions
and you would be shocked at the perspective you get.
One person gave me the perspective of, don't you know,
go away with someone for more than two nights. It's
going to be too much, too much of a good thing.
Somebody else was like, yes, stay in a hotel or
don't sleep with them on the first night. Everyone's going
to have a different opinion. And then, like in business,

(07:49):
you're going to ultimately make the decision yourself. But I
think a dating board of advisors is extremely valuable. And
you could have one of your kids on the dating
board of advisors, Like if your child is at a
certain and including them is maybe helpful, maybe makes them
feel like they're not left out, or they may know
you better than you know yourself because they live with you.
I mean, there are many different ways to go about it,

(08:09):
but I think it's a good practice. So dating is
like fishing, and fishing is a patient game, as is golf,
as is anything to be good at. It's not something
where you expect a fish to jump right on the
line the second you sit down. You could have a
really bad day. You could go out for hours. I'm

(08:31):
allergic to fish, incidentally, but I am aware of what
the sport is like or the hobbies like, and it
takes a lot of patience. It takes understanding the process.
It takes appreciating the reward, and it does take sort
of not like just settling and not just you could
be frustrated. You could go home frustrated, and you also
could be and I go, I'm gonna go now, say

(08:52):
fishing and hunting, because you could be a big game
hunter and you're not going to settle for something that's
less than what you deserve. And if you kind of
fold before the big fish comes on your fishing rod,
you could be doing yourself a disservice because if you
get nervous and you sort of choke and like then
you just accept like something that in your mind is

(09:14):
dating down or a smaller fish. You're being impatient and
you're expecting it just to come on a silver platter.
That means that you're not trusting yourself enough to wait
for the good thing to come. And we've all done that,
like we all have done that where you've like convinced
yourself and then you end up settling. And it's not
just that you end up settling and you get less

(09:34):
than what you deserve, which is the worst thing. It's
that you end up settling and then you take up
that time block and maybe if you just went a
little longer, if you just sat a little longer with
the fishing rod, would you come with a great, amazing fish.
So I think you have to be patient and you
have to go through the frogs to get to the prints,
you know, I really do think that. And that's where

(09:56):
people fold. That's where people you know, that's where you
separate the men from the boys, the women from the girls.
Where if you're willing to wait, and you're confident enough
in yourself and in being alone, then you might be
willing to wait for something great because you'd rather be
alone than be with something mediocre. In any situation. I'm
like that with food, with anything, I'd rather not go

(10:16):
if it's not going to be great, and i'd rather
not eat if it's not going to taste great, and
I'd rather not date if there's not the potential of
something being amazing. I'd rather be home with my dogs
and my daughter.
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