August 5, 2025 • 23 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
My girlfriend wants to share locations. I think this is
overkill and invades my privacy, but she says, if I
have nothing to hide, what's the issue. I can't argue
with her. I mean, it's frigging creepy. It's just like
a feeling. The minute someone like just walks over, like
my daughter picks up my phone, I'm like, what are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's like a rectal exam.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Like I don't like anyone in my body, in my purse,
in my phone, so I certainly don't need someone knowing
where I am all the time. It's creepy and weird.
What if he went to like get a colonic You
have to have trust? And I get his point, and
a woman who would ask that is like, it's okay
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to know where someone is, but you know what I mean,
Like I have my daughter's location. I even feel weird
when she knows that I have it, because it's like
where'd you go? What'd you do after that? And I
feel like a psycho And it's my child, So I'm
not here for that, okay. The girls actually prefer bad
boys when they're children. When they're children, when they haven't
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worked at their own issues.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Bad boys. Okay, there are different types of bad boys.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I dated a guy who worked on an oil rig
who was probably the hottest man that I've ever seen
in my life, and he had that like ruggedness, but
he was a good guy. And there are a lot
of those guys. They just they're not costplaying the rugged thing.
Like there are people on TikTok the guy that Christian
Cavalary dated, like he and his friends are all like
shirtless and like hot with a baseball cap on, like
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singing country shit. Like that's costplaying whatever it is, you
know what I mean. There are guys who are actually
like that because that's how they were raised. Like they
just they are like chopping wood and they like work
outside so they have that six pack, but not from
being like bros trying to cosplay that. So there, and
those guys are usually really nice. Those guys were usually
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raised well or just like have good manners and they're
real men. But like people who act like bad boys,
they're losers. So like these guys that want to be
like fucking tough in the gym and you know, acting
like cool and tough, they're losers. So I don't like
that at all because it's kind of if you're pretending
you're a bad boy, or if you're trying to be
a bad boy, or you're leaning into a guy who's
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a dick who sleeps with a lot of women. That's different, Like,
that's a dick, So do you want to be with
a dick? Now? I think that men want to be
with good guys. But the truth is, really good looking
men who have been good looking their whole life they're
very nice because they're secure. It's often like the short
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guy that got no women in college who makes a
little bit of money that later acts like a real
dick because he's insecure and he's trying to make up
for But I've found that really like the really good
looking guys who have always been pretty secure, they're really nice,
So it's not necessarily connected to what you look like.
Most really good looking guys shouldn't be pompous assholes because
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they have nothing to overcompensate for. It's the guys who
like all of a sudden, had to glow up or
have been working really hard at it. They want to
like act cool because they know it's not really true.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's not authentic.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So you gotta read between the lines because Ultimately, you
want a man who is very secure. People don't talk
about that enough. And by the way, I'm not in
a relationship. I haven't dated for seven months, and it'd
be like, what the fuck does she know she's the
worst at relationships. I'm actually not bad at relationships. I'm
actually not bad at being in a relationship. I'm not
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actually bad at getting guys. I haven't chosen at the
level that I should be choosing based on my intelligence, success,
relatively decent physical appearance. Like I do not think that
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I am a super I honestly do think I'm a supermodel.
But I've redefined what a supermodel is. But I don't think.
I don't have delusions of who I should be with.
Like I've been pretty good at getting men. I have
never been delusional about it. I know my worth and
it's not skewed. But I do believe I'm decent at relationships.
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I'm good at being a partner. I just haven't chosen
wisely for myself. I have not been good at choosing
something that could be sustainable. I settle based on what
I believe I deserve and should be doing. I'm choosing
my words wisely because I don't want you to think
I'm being pompous, but I'm I'm actually accurate in what
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I'm saying. Okay, I kind of like settle and don't
like go the distance, and this is the first time
in my entire higher adult life. But I have gone
seven months and it's nuanced and it's a couple of things,
and it's not me being too picky. I am not
too picky. I'm accurately picky. It's almost like you've been
great on your juice fast or your health regime. I'm
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not fucking ruining it for somebody that I know I'm
not ending up with. So this is not the age
to fuck around. So that's why I haven't gone out
in seven months.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I went out.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I think I'm one proper date and that was at
the level that's really pretty much it. So overall, I'm
not breaking it unless it's really worth it. Okay, she
hasn't texted since our first date three days, but it
felt good. Do I follow up or should I leave
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it in her court?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What court? What are you talking about? This is court?
You're a man, first of all.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
If you did follow up and she wasn't responsive, she's
not interested.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But you can't.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You know, there's a very fine line in pursuing and stalking,
and you better find out where it is. You let
the person know your interest level. You reach out. If
they don't respond that they're not interested in you, that's it.
You don't chase it.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You chase the dog. The dog runs away, the dog
chases you, you run away. You could say one thing
to say, it's clear. It's unless my radar is off.
You can be vulnerable. Unless my radar is off. It
seems you're not interested. I thought you were great, and
I wish you the very best, and you know, I
let them know in a nod stocky way that you're interested.
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But I'll leave this here like you're piecing out, but
in a very nice way, letting them know that you're interested,
but you're not gonna like chase them. You have to
find a very concise don't drone on because people like
to drone on about it. I thought it was a fit,
and I really want something down to earth. A lot
of men say to me because they know I'm a
public person. If you're looking for no drama down to earth,
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you know that's me. What the fuck are you talking
about who's gonna be like I'm looking for drama and
I want someone who's inflated and is not down to earth.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Shut up. It doesn't need to be said.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's like men talking about that they're a very involved
dad or they're into fitness.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Shut up. That's not like needs to be said.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You're not a gigantic, overweight, unhealthy sloth because I looked
at you already, so like, you don't need to tell
me you're into fitness.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's like weird. I get it. I'm into being healthy.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Who's not Like no one is like that now, no
one you're gonna be interested is like that. Now everyone
thinks they're healthy, just like everyone thinks they're organized and
everyone's full of shit. Also, but like, please do not
like I don't need to hear that. I don't want
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to bring my girlfriend around my guy friends. She thinks
it's weird, is it?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
This is even my I don't even understand. It's you
like bro culture, like fist some guy at a wedding
last weekend, try to fist, pound, fist, pump what is
it called. I don't want it to seem like I'm
getting fisted, but like whatever, that thing and I go no,
and he did it like three other times because that's
like his like weird and secure tick of like connectivity,
like cool, Yeah, I like, don't ever do that to me,
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And every time I wouldn't. It's sort of like I'm
just not responding. I'm not addressing this crowd at this time.
I'm not responding to it. I'm never doing it because
you're doing. It's like I'm leaving you hanging. I'm not
doing a double kiss either. I'm not doing a double French,
triple friend triple kiss. Get the fuck away from me.
You're a creepy weirdo that is literally should be doused
in cologne, have an askot on and like a pocket square.
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Get the fuck away from me, like a I don't
even like a double kid. What we're American? If we're
double kissing Eladia Baldwin, it's Spanish. Leave me alone. I
don't want to double kiss you. I don't want to
single kiss you. I don't want you touching me. And
I don't need to kiss people either.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I don't like someone who like met me once giving
me a kiss. Why get your face away from mind.
We just got out of a pandemic. All these things
are wrong. You might as well not wash your hands
if you're gonna double kiss me. And I really don't
want to be single kissed either. I want to cancel
double kissing. And also single kissing should become what double
kissing has become. Single kissing is a very intimate personal
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You need to be a more than an acquaintance act. That
was a digression because you don't want to bring your
girlfriend or in your guy friends.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't even know what that means. All of a.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Sudden, we're in the movie Goodwill Hunting when like Mini
Driver goes to meet Ben Affleck and all like Matt
Damon's friends, like at the bar, and it's like such
a big deal because like she gets along with the guys,
Like what are you fucking talking about? I almost need
to have you on this podcast. I don't want to
bring my girlfriend around my guy friends. When do you
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like work at the rodeo And it's like you to
bring her into like that at atmosphere. I don't understand.
I'm so confused. I don't is it a locker room experience.
I'm not gonna get over it. I don't want to
bring my girlfriend around my guy friends, like when at
a bar, at at the tailgate, I'm so confused at
the sports bar, like when do you not want to
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bring her in your guy friends? Ever, it's your girlfriend.
I'm never getting over this. And a fraternity party, how
old are you? Like I can't get past this question.
How do I approach a girl out and about without
being a creep?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Great question, Thank you caller.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I would go basics, don't do something stupid like ask
about her shoes or like just say hi, how are you? Like,
just say hi, how are you? Or how's your night going?
You're having fun tonight? Whatever, like something normal. Just be normal.
And then if you don't get But if you don't
get a red, get the fuck out. Don't get like
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if you don't get vibe, get the fuck out a
board and there's nothing gonna happen. It's like I used
to tell Brent on the beach when she wanted to
talk to when she had no friends in the pandemic,
and I'm like, just go say. We were like literally
looking for a vein, a social vein of any sign
of life. And so there was a girl on the
beach that was her age, and I was.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Like, go say hello.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm like, what's gonna happen. Let's say she says you're ugly?
I don't want to be friends with you. You never
have to see her again. You never have to see
this person again. So it's the same thing with the girl.
Walk up, say whatever you want, but I would probably
lean with something normal.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So you could get a shop.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But there's nothing you can't say, or nothing they could
say to you that's going to be a problem because
you never have to see them again.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Just rip the.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Band aid off, get in, and get the fuck out
if it doesn't work, and if it does work, you
stay in. It was like doing The Housewives. I was like,
what if it fails. If it fails, no one will
ever hear about it. If it succeeds, it'll be a win.
And it was a win worked out. I keep thinking
about an X from years ago. Should I reach out
or leave it alone? This is literally what my ex
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said to his therapist for one year, and he kept
asking her, what do you think's going on with Bethany.
She's like, there's only one way to find out, and
he reached out and we ended up together.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, reach out.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Why would you not reach out it's been three months,
and I want to ask if we're exclusive, but I
don't want to scare her off.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
How do I bring it up? Excellent question?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Call her three months is when you say it. Maybe
show like a dumb article that you looked at being
like three months is the pivotal point. Maybe make a joke,
Maybe bring up like Mel Robbins says that three months
you're supposed to ask, So blame it on someone else,
or just say wow, we hit the three month mark.
(12:41):
Oh wait, I mean you know how deep is your love?
Like make it funny. It depends if you guys are
sappy and like having amazing sex and like feeling like
the love feelings. Say it in that way, say wow,
Or give a gift on the third month. Give a
gift that has some meaning.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Is it a key?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Is it a reasonably priced piece of jewelry that's subtle,
that's just cute? Is it a certain flower? Is it
like something? Or say it in like that. Blame it
on somebody else's way, like you heard something on a
podcast or Joe Rogan or somebody said something about three months.
Or don't be too sappy and read some like girly
girl blog that said it like something that makes you
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not a pussy.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Say it and.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Then find out. Get in and get out is what
I'm saying. Don't linger, don't be weird. I want to propose.
She wants it to be a surprise, But then how
do I know I'm getting the right ring and planning
the right proposal for her? Excellent question, who do not
buy a retail ring? Do not go get the blue box,
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do not go. Do not buy a retail ring. You
will be buying your diamond from not just the first
diamond guy. Somebody said, but you will be buying it
from a diamond guy. Okay, it's time for diamond advice.
There is There are a few things besides divorce that
I know more about than diamonds. So let me give
you let me give you the tea. We have reached
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a point where lab grown is an important conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Why because you will live in a community. Everybody lives
in a community.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Where there are young girls and guys that want to flex.
And if you want the bigger show, the young girls
are going to tell their guys that they will want
lab grown because it is still a diamond. It was
just grown in a lab It's like there are many
tomatoes at the supermarket that were not grown in the garden.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
There are still tomatoes.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So we have reached a point where you will have
to make that decision. Now, if you have a psychological
thing about it, and you must have an actual, naturally
grown diamond, that's fine. There also are treated diamonds that
have heat on them, so this is a big discussion.
But if you want size and the flex, you're gonna
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want the lab grown diamond, and then it's so much
less expensive than a real, normal, traditional diamond. But I'm
still gonna tell you the rules that exist in both categories.
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Round are more common, find out I'm your girl if
she wants something that's more common, more classic, more traditional.
Around is just a traditional, classic common stone. They sell
way more around than any other size. Okay, and around
is going to show up better than some other sizes.
And around is brilliant, meaning it has all the fire.
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So this is where it gets important. In a round stone,
if there are flaws, they won't show as much. So
in a round, In an oval, in a princess cut,
in a radiant cut, in a pair, in a marquee,
they have more fire, So you can the flaws will
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hide more, meaning if there's an inclusion, if there's a
little line, if there's a hair, you won't see them
as much in those stones as say an asher or
an emerald.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
A heart is also brilliant like a.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Round stone, So if you love an emerald cut, you
will have to make sure that the quality, the clarity
is better because you will see a line in there.
It makes sense, right, you'll see a line in there
more than you will in.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
A brilliant stone. Within the brilliant section.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You have round pair, heart, Marquee, radiant princess. Then you
have to think about the color. So within those stones,
if you've chosen that, you're not gonna worry as much
about the clarity. You can worry more about the color there,
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meaning like you have to decide what you're focusing on.
If you buy an emerald, you can sacrifice on the
color and get a notch down on the color. Color
starts D and goes through I at Tiffany's, So from
D to I is all that Tiffany will carry. Many
people that you've seen who have big giant stones, they
could be a JA and it's still not a problem.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
A j okay okay, But.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Tiffany only carries to I, so I would just think
about only going to eye and with I you could
still see.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
A little bit of the color.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Like colorless is d it means it's like there is
not a single hint of any color, and flawless is flawless.
And then you go down the line and like you
keep finding the things that you're willing to sacrifice. So
I would go, if sir down the middle, D colorstone
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h colorstone is fine. You don't have to be flawless.
You don't have to be VVS one and two, which
is close to flowers.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You could be vs.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
You start to get into a lot of flaws and
then the stone is less expensive. If you're trying to
have an investment quality stone, you have to get closer
to flawless and closer to colorless. But if you're not
getting an investment quality stone, none of the shit matters, okay,
because diamonds drop in value like a fucking Chevrolet off
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the lot. So you decide lab grown or non lab grown.
But those are good guidelines. If you want a stone
that is going to appear bigger, you want an oval
or a pear shape. They appear bigger asher, you lose
the size cushion. You often lose the size. Princess shows
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up bigger in those square stones. Radiant shows up bigger
in the square stones. Then you decide whether you want
an elongated emerald or a square emerald.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Okay, same thing with ovals.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Do you want an elongated oval, You want it to
be a more puffy oval, which will often look a
little bit more like a cushion, which a cushion is
like a little pillow. They also have elongated cushions or
puffy cushions. There are all these different things about it,
So you just find out what vein she wants to
be in. Is she more classic? Which is emerald?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Or round?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That is more classic? Heart shape is fun. I love
heart shape. It's more rare and harder to move if
you anticipate selling the stone, upgrading it, or getting a divorce. Okay,
there are certain stones that Marquis is not as easy
to move. Heart is not as easy to move. You
can see know every single thing there is to know
about this. You want to set this bitch so it
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shows up bigger. You set it in a pavet setting.
You set it with diamonds around the main diamond, it's
an optical illusion to make it bigger. You want to
even triple down and do a Housewives setting to make
it look bigger than it actually is, which is a
full on Jersey and Atlanta and OC and Beverly Hills move.
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It's put sidestones with the ring and also have a
pave setting around it. That's when you get a lot
of schmaltz around it to make the center stone look
bigger because you can't really see what you're looking at.
If you're really fucking rich, your stone stands alone. You
don't need all that shit on the sides, but the
schmaltz is what makes the stone look bigger. So that's
another way that you could spend less on the middlestone.
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And side stones are always cheaper and pave is always cheaper,
so you could spend a little more on the setting,
but it'll make the whole thing look more expensive. There's
a lot of fucking trickery in the diamond deal. Okay,
So there are a lot of ways to go, and
you could I could teach a college course on this,
and I have had pretty big diamonds, and that's what.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I would like. I would like I'm a go bigger.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Go home person, but I think LAB is a great
option and you don't have to break the bank and
you can have a big show up and look gorgeous
and there is nothing wrong with it. This is like
talking about the expensive bags and watches and all that shit.
There are many ways to go planning the right proposal, though,
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Make it a surprise. Fucking stick the landing. Google it,
Ask the friends, not the best friends, because the best
friends will say you're planning it. Look on TikTok, find
the best proposals. Do not embarrass me, do it properly
be throw stick the landing. But it's good that you're asking,
But do a deep, deep dive, and you better make
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sure you stick that landing. I'm thinking a little moment
on the beach with flowers and a little table and
champagne and maybe as chef brings it over. If you
can't afford that, you make sure you go get the
right thing. Do some caviat like do not embarrass me.
Make sure it's documented in some way, because she might
be if she's like an Instagram girl, then she's gonna
want it. Document in it some way. If a tree
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falls in and heard it didn't really happen. If she's
super private, you don't need that. Do not embarrass me.
Stick the landing, think bachelor, Think subtle, but make sure
you don't botch it. She has a lot of guy friends.
It makes me jealous. How do I not act insecure?
Do not act insecure? Phone a friend. But she shouldn't
have too many guy friends that she's like talking to
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you too much because I don't like that either. When
people get drunk, it's like you put steak in front
of a dog. They're gonna eat the steak. She doesn't
need like best guy friends. They should be slightly demoted.
It's a little weird. Nobody like that. You don't need
to be in a relationship and be like too many
good guy friends.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's a red flag. I'm going to commit a.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Relationship, but still thinking about other people doesn't mean it's
not right. It does in fact me and it's not right.
If you don't know yes, it's no, so just you know,
downgrade it in your mind. If you don't know a
resounding yes, it's a resounding no.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
God, so hard.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
To be so fucking smart, Just kidding that up
My girlfriend wants to share locations. I think this is
overkill and invades my privacy, but she says, if I
have nothing to hide, what's the issue. I can't argue
with her. I mean, it's frigging creepy. It's just like
a feeling. The minute someone like just walks over, like
my daughter picks up my phone, I'm like, what are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's like a rectal exam.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Like I don't like anyone in my body, in my purse,
in my phone, so I certainly don't need someone knowing
where I am all the time. It's creepy and weird.
What if he went to like get a colonic You
have to have trust? And I get his point, and
a woman who would ask that is like, it's okay
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to know where someone is, but you know what I mean,
Like I have my daughter's location. I even feel weird
when she knows that I have it, because it's like
where'd you go? What'd you do after that? And I
feel like a psycho And it's my child, So I'm
not here for that, okay. The girls actually prefer bad
boys when they're children. When they're children, when they haven't
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worked at their own issues.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Bad boys. Okay, there are different types of bad boys.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I dated a guy who worked on an oil rig
who was probably the hottest man that I've ever seen
in my life, and he had that like ruggedness, but
he was a good guy. And there are a lot
of those guys. They just they're not costplaying the rugged thing.
Like there are people on TikTok the guy that Christian
Cavalary dated, like he and his friends are all like
shirtless and like hot with a baseball cap on, like
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singing country shit. Like that's costplaying whatever it is, you
know what I mean. There are guys who are actually
like that because that's how they were raised. Like they
just they are like chopping wood and they like work
outside so they have that six pack, but not from
being like bros trying to cosplay that. So there, and
those guys are usually really nice. Those guys were usually
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raised well or just like have good manners and they're
real men. But like people who act like bad boys,
they're losers. So like these guys that want to be
like fucking tough in the gym and you know, acting
like cool and tough, they're losers. So I don't like
that at all because it's kind of if you're pretending
you're a bad boy, or if you're trying to be
a bad boy, or you're leaning into a guy who's
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a dick who sleeps with a lot of women. That's different, Like,
that's a dick, So do you want to be with
a dick? Now? I think that men want to be
with good guys. But the truth is, really good looking
men who have been good looking their whole life they're
very nice because they're secure. It's often like the short
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guy that got no women in college who makes a
little bit of money that later acts like a real
dick because he's insecure and he's trying to make up
for But I've found that really like the really good
looking guys who have always been pretty secure, they're really nice,
So it's not necessarily connected to what you look like.
Most really good looking guys shouldn't be pompous assholes because
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they have nothing to overcompensate for. It's the guys who
like all of a sudden, had to glow up or
have been working really hard at it. They want to
like act cool because they know it's not really true.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's not authentic.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So you gotta read between the lines because Ultimately, you
want a man who is very secure. People don't talk
about that enough. And by the way, I'm not in
a relationship. I haven't dated for seven months, and it'd
be like, what the fuck does she know she's the
worst at relationships. I'm actually not bad at relationships. I'm
actually not bad at being in a relationship. I'm not
(03:51):
actually bad at getting guys. I haven't chosen at the
level that I should be choosing based on my intelligence, success,
relatively decent physical appearance. Like I do not think that
(04:14):
I am a super I honestly do think I'm a supermodel.
But I've redefined what a supermodel is. But I don't think.
I don't have delusions of who I should be with.
Like I've been pretty good at getting men. I have
never been delusional about it. I know my worth and
it's not skewed. But I do believe I'm decent at relationships.
(04:34):
I'm good at being a partner. I just haven't chosen
wisely for myself. I have not been good at choosing
something that could be sustainable. I settle based on what
I believe I deserve and should be doing. I'm choosing
my words wisely because I don't want you to think
I'm being pompous, but I'm I'm actually accurate in what
(04:54):
I'm saying. Okay, I kind of like settle and don't
like go the distance, and this is the first time
in my entire higher adult life. But I have gone
seven months and it's nuanced and it's a couple of things,
and it's not me being too picky. I am not
too picky. I'm accurately picky. It's almost like you've been
great on your juice fast or your health regime. I'm
(05:14):
not fucking ruining it for somebody that I know I'm
not ending up with. So this is not the age
to fuck around. So that's why I haven't gone out
in seven months.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I went out.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I think I'm one proper date and that was at
the level that's really pretty much it. So overall, I'm
not breaking it unless it's really worth it. Okay, she
hasn't texted since our first date three days, but it
felt good. Do I follow up or should I leave
(05:45):
it in her court?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What court? What are you talking about? This is court?
You're a man, first of all.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
If you did follow up and she wasn't responsive, she's
not interested.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But you can't.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You know, there's a very fine line in pursuing and stalking,
and you better find out where it is. You let
the person know your interest level. You reach out. If
they don't respond that they're not interested in you, that's it.
You don't chase it.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You chase the dog. The dog runs away, the dog
chases you, you run away. You could say one thing
to say, it's clear. It's unless my radar is off.
You can be vulnerable. Unless my radar is off. It
seems you're not interested. I thought you were great, and
I wish you the very best, and you know, I
let them know in a nod stocky way that you're interested.
(06:35):
But I'll leave this here like you're piecing out, but
in a very nice way, letting them know that you're interested,
but you're not gonna like chase them. You have to
find a very concise don't drone on because people like
to drone on about it. I thought it was a fit,
and I really want something down to earth. A lot
of men say to me because they know I'm a
public person. If you're looking for no drama down to earth,
(06:55):
you know that's me. What the fuck are you talking
about who's gonna be like I'm looking for drama and
I want someone who's inflated and is not down to earth.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Shut up. It doesn't need to be said.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's like men talking about that they're a very involved
dad or they're into fitness.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Shut up. That's not like needs to be said.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You're not a gigantic, overweight, unhealthy sloth because I looked
at you already, so like, you don't need to tell
me you're into fitness.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's like weird. I get it. I'm into being healthy.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Who's not Like no one is like that now, no
one you're gonna be interested is like that. Now everyone
thinks they're healthy, just like everyone thinks they're organized and
everyone's full of shit. Also, but like, please do not
like I don't need to hear that. I don't want
(07:53):
to bring my girlfriend around my guy friends. She thinks
it's weird, is it?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
This is even my I don't even understand. It's you
like bro culture, like fist some guy at a wedding
last weekend, try to fist, pound, fist, pump what is
it called. I don't want it to seem like I'm
getting fisted, but like whatever, that thing and I go no,
and he did it like three other times because that's
like his like weird and secure tick of like connectivity,
like cool, Yeah, I like, don't ever do that to me,
(08:19):
And every time I wouldn't. It's sort of like I'm
just not responding. I'm not addressing this crowd at this time.
I'm not responding to it. I'm never doing it because
you're doing. It's like I'm leaving you hanging. I'm not
doing a double kiss either. I'm not doing a double French,
triple friend triple kiss. Get the fuck away from me.
You're a creepy weirdo that is literally should be doused
in cologne, have an askot on and like a pocket square.
(08:43):
Get the fuck away from me, like a I don't
even like a double kid. What we're American? If we're
double kissing Eladia Baldwin, it's Spanish. Leave me alone. I
don't want to double kiss you. I don't want to
single kiss you. I don't want you touching me. And
I don't need to kiss people either.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I don't like someone who like met me once giving
me a kiss. Why get your face away from mind.
We just got out of a pandemic. All these things
are wrong. You might as well not wash your hands
if you're gonna double kiss me. And I really don't
want to be single kissed either. I want to cancel
double kissing. And also single kissing should become what double
kissing has become. Single kissing is a very intimate personal
(09:26):
You need to be a more than an acquaintance act. That
was a digression because you don't want to bring your
girlfriend or in your guy friends.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't even know what that means. All of a.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Sudden, we're in the movie Goodwill Hunting when like Mini
Driver goes to meet Ben Affleck and all like Matt
Damon's friends, like at the bar, and it's like such
a big deal because like she gets along with the guys,
Like what are you fucking talking about? I almost need
to have you on this podcast. I don't want to
bring my girlfriend around my guy friends. When do you
(09:58):
like work at the rodeo And it's like you to
bring her into like that at atmosphere. I don't understand.
I'm so confused. I don't is it a locker room experience.
I'm not gonna get over it. I don't want to
bring my girlfriend around my guy friends, like when at
a bar, at at the tailgate, I'm so confused at
the sports bar, like when do you not want to
(10:19):
bring her in your guy friends? Ever, it's your girlfriend.
I'm never getting over this. And a fraternity party, how
old are you? Like I can't get past this question.
How do I approach a girl out and about without
being a creep?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Great question, Thank you caller.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I would go basics, don't do something stupid like ask
about her shoes or like just say hi, how are you? Like,
just say hi, how are you? Or how's your night going?
You're having fun tonight? Whatever, like something normal. Just be normal.
And then if you don't get But if you don't
get a red, get the fuck out. Don't get like
(11:00):
if you don't get vibe, get the fuck out a
board and there's nothing gonna happen. It's like I used
to tell Brent on the beach when she wanted to
talk to when she had no friends in the pandemic,
and I'm like, just go say. We were like literally
looking for a vein, a social vein of any sign
of life. And so there was a girl on the
beach that was her age, and I was.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Like, go say hello.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm like, what's gonna happen. Let's say she says you're ugly?
I don't want to be friends with you. You never
have to see her again. You never have to see
this person again. So it's the same thing with the girl.
Walk up, say whatever you want, but I would probably
lean with something normal.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So you could get a shop.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But there's nothing you can't say, or nothing they could
say to you that's going to be a problem because
you never have to see them again.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Just rip the.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Band aid off, get in, and get the fuck out
if it doesn't work, and if it does work, you
stay in. It was like doing The Housewives. I was like,
what if it fails. If it fails, no one will
ever hear about it. If it succeeds, it'll be a win.
And it was a win worked out. I keep thinking
about an X from years ago. Should I reach out
or leave it alone? This is literally what my ex
(12:03):
said to his therapist for one year, and he kept
asking her, what do you think's going on with Bethany.
She's like, there's only one way to find out, and
he reached out and we ended up together.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, reach out.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Why would you not reach out it's been three months,
and I want to ask if we're exclusive, but I
don't want to scare her off.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
How do I bring it up? Excellent question?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Call her three months is when you say it. Maybe
show like a dumb article that you looked at being
like three months is the pivotal point. Maybe make a joke,
Maybe bring up like Mel Robbins says that three months
you're supposed to ask, So blame it on someone else,
or just say wow, we hit the three month mark.
(12:41):
Oh wait, I mean you know how deep is your love?
Like make it funny. It depends if you guys are
sappy and like having amazing sex and like feeling like
the love feelings. Say it in that way, say wow,
Or give a gift on the third month. Give a
gift that has some meaning.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Is it a key?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Is it a reasonably priced piece of jewelry that's subtle,
that's just cute? Is it a certain flower? Is it
like something? Or say it in like that. Blame it
on somebody else's way, like you heard something on a
podcast or Joe Rogan or somebody said something about three months.
Or don't be too sappy and read some like girly
girl blog that said it like something that makes you
(13:23):
not a pussy.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Say it and.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Then find out. Get in and get out is what
I'm saying. Don't linger, don't be weird. I want to propose.
She wants it to be a surprise, But then how
do I know I'm getting the right ring and planning
the right proposal for her? Excellent question, who do not
buy a retail ring? Do not go get the blue box,
(13:45):
do not go. Do not buy a retail ring. You
will be buying your diamond from not just the first
diamond guy. Somebody said, but you will be buying it
from a diamond guy. Okay, it's time for diamond advice.
There is There are a few things besides divorce that
I know more about than diamonds. So let me give
you let me give you the tea. We have reached
(14:08):
a point where lab grown is an important conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Why because you will live in a community. Everybody lives
in a community.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Where there are young girls and guys that want to flex.
And if you want the bigger show, the young girls
are going to tell their guys that they will want
lab grown because it is still a diamond. It was
just grown in a lab It's like there are many
tomatoes at the supermarket that were not grown in the garden.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
There are still tomatoes.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So we have reached a point where you will have
to make that decision. Now, if you have a psychological
thing about it, and you must have an actual, naturally
grown diamond, that's fine. There also are treated diamonds that
have heat on them, so this is a big discussion.
But if you want size and the flex, you're gonna
(15:02):
want the lab grown diamond, and then it's so much
less expensive than a real, normal, traditional diamond. But I'm
still gonna tell you the rules that exist in both categories.
(15:29):
Round are more common, find out I'm your girl if
she wants something that's more common, more classic, more traditional.
Around is just a traditional, classic common stone. They sell
way more around than any other size. Okay, and around
is going to show up better than some other sizes.
And around is brilliant, meaning it has all the fire.
(15:52):
So this is where it gets important. In a round stone,
if there are flaws, they won't show as much. So
in a round, In an oval, in a princess cut,
in a radiant cut, in a pair, in a marquee,
they have more fire, So you can the flaws will
(16:12):
hide more, meaning if there's an inclusion, if there's a
little line, if there's a hair, you won't see them
as much in those stones as say an asher or
an emerald.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
A heart is also brilliant like a.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Round stone, So if you love an emerald cut, you
will have to make sure that the quality, the clarity
is better because you will see a line in there.
It makes sense, right, you'll see a line in there
more than you will in.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
A brilliant stone. Within the brilliant section.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You have round pair, heart, Marquee, radiant princess. Then you
have to think about the color. So within those stones,
if you've chosen that, you're not gonna worry as much
about the clarity. You can worry more about the color there,
(17:10):
meaning like you have to decide what you're focusing on.
If you buy an emerald, you can sacrifice on the
color and get a notch down on the color. Color
starts D and goes through I at Tiffany's, So from
D to I is all that Tiffany will carry. Many
people that you've seen who have big giant stones, they
could be a JA and it's still not a problem.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
A j okay okay, But.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Tiffany only carries to I, so I would just think
about only going to eye and with I you could
still see.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
A little bit of the color.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Like colorless is d it means it's like there is
not a single hint of any color, and flawless is flawless.
And then you go down the line and like you
keep finding the things that you're willing to sacrifice. So
I would go, if sir down the middle, D colorstone
(18:01):
h colorstone is fine. You don't have to be flawless.
You don't have to be VVS one and two, which
is close to flowers.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You could be vs.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
You start to get into a lot of flaws and
then the stone is less expensive. If you're trying to
have an investment quality stone, you have to get closer
to flawless and closer to colorless. But if you're not
getting an investment quality stone, none of the shit matters, okay,
because diamonds drop in value like a fucking Chevrolet off
(18:32):
the lot. So you decide lab grown or non lab grown.
But those are good guidelines. If you want a stone
that is going to appear bigger, you want an oval
or a pear shape. They appear bigger asher, you lose
the size cushion. You often lose the size. Princess shows
(18:55):
up bigger in those square stones. Radiant shows up bigger
in the square stones. Then you decide whether you want
an elongated emerald or a square emerald.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Okay, same thing with ovals.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Do you want an elongated oval, You want it to
be a more puffy oval, which will often look a
little bit more like a cushion, which a cushion is
like a little pillow. They also have elongated cushions or
puffy cushions. There are all these different things about it,
So you just find out what vein she wants to
be in. Is she more classic? Which is emerald?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Or round?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That is more classic? Heart shape is fun. I love
heart shape. It's more rare and harder to move if
you anticipate selling the stone, upgrading it, or getting a divorce. Okay,
there are certain stones that Marquis is not as easy
to move. Heart is not as easy to move. You
can see know every single thing there is to know
about this. You want to set this bitch so it
(19:50):
shows up bigger. You set it in a pavet setting.
You set it with diamonds around the main diamond, it's
an optical illusion to make it bigger. You want to
even triple down and do a Housewives setting to make
it look bigger than it actually is, which is a
full on Jersey and Atlanta and OC and Beverly Hills move.
(20:13):
It's put sidestones with the ring and also have a
pave setting around it. That's when you get a lot
of schmaltz around it to make the center stone look
bigger because you can't really see what you're looking at.
If you're really fucking rich, your stone stands alone. You
don't need all that shit on the sides, but the
schmaltz is what makes the stone look bigger. So that's
another way that you could spend less on the middlestone.
(20:34):
And side stones are always cheaper and pave is always cheaper,
so you could spend a little more on the setting,
but it'll make the whole thing look more expensive. There's
a lot of fucking trickery in the diamond deal. Okay,
So there are a lot of ways to go, and
you could I could teach a college course on this,
and I have had pretty big diamonds, and that's what.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I would like. I would like I'm a go bigger.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Go home person, but I think LAB is a great
option and you don't have to break the bank and
you can have a big show up and look gorgeous
and there is nothing wrong with it. This is like
talking about the expensive bags and watches and all that shit.
There are many ways to go planning the right proposal, though,
(21:17):
Make it a surprise. Fucking stick the landing. Google it,
Ask the friends, not the best friends, because the best
friends will say you're planning it. Look on TikTok, find
the best proposals. Do not embarrass me, do it properly
be throw stick the landing. But it's good that you're asking,
But do a deep, deep dive, and you better make
(21:38):
sure you stick that landing. I'm thinking a little moment
on the beach with flowers and a little table and
champagne and maybe as chef brings it over. If you
can't afford that, you make sure you go get the
right thing. Do some caviat like do not embarrass me.
Make sure it's documented in some way, because she might
be if she's like an Instagram girl, then she's gonna
want it. Document in it some way. If a tree
(21:59):
falls in and heard it didn't really happen. If she's
super private, you don't need that. Do not embarrass me.
Stick the landing, think bachelor, Think subtle, but make sure
you don't botch it. She has a lot of guy friends.
It makes me jealous. How do I not act insecure?
Do not act insecure? Phone a friend. But she shouldn't
have too many guy friends that she's like talking to
(22:22):
you too much because I don't like that either. When
people get drunk, it's like you put steak in front
of a dog. They're gonna eat the steak. She doesn't
need like best guy friends. They should be slightly demoted.
It's a little weird. Nobody like that. You don't need
to be in a relationship and be like too many
good guy friends.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's a red flag. I'm going to commit a.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Relationship, but still thinking about other people doesn't mean it's
not right. It does in fact me and it's not right.
If you don't know yes, it's no, so just you know,
downgrade it in your mind. If you don't know a
resounding yes, it's a resounding no.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
God, so hard.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
To be so fucking smart, Just kidding that up
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