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September 3, 2025 15 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I dated Jennifer Aniston's boyfriend and he was a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
He was a nice guy.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm not going to get into too much detail out
of respect for her and her relationship. I'm happy for her,
and I want to say this in the right way.
His name is Jim Curtis, and he's getting a lot
of attention because he's with her now and he's in
like the wellness space. I didn't really understand it when
I dated him, Like I didn't have any reason to

(00:40):
see it. I think it says like he's a hypnotist.
I don't think he was that then, or I didn't
know about that. I knew that he walks with a
cane because he has some wellness thing that happened to
him and it was very scary and life altering and
life threatening, and it changed his life and turned him
towards wellness. I never participated in it. As a NAT
food chef, I know a lot about certain areas of wellness,

(01:04):
but I don't love all areas of it, and I
don't always take all areas of it seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm not saying that about him.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I'm saying I literally we talked about it, but.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Like I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
We just didn't get that into it, and he was
earlier in on his journey. But with that and with
the wellness aspect, there was an earthiness to it, and
it does vibe with jen Addiston, like there are people
that would be better suited with other people than with you,
not because they're not great, nice people, but from what

(01:39):
I remember, kind nice man. This was maybe ten years ago.
But I'm happy for Jennifer Aniston because I do believe
she wants to find love. I do believe it's been difficult,
as I understand as well as anybody can, and I
do believe she's sort of got that earthy, mellow side

(02:01):
to her just because she's an actress and successful. I
give her a lot of credit for doing red carpets
for all these years and always having the same simple hairstyle.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
She doesn't get tricked out.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
She always has a simple dress style and it's not forced,
it's not put upon, and where she's trying to force
minimalism or trying to force muted tones, it just reads
very genuine. It just reads very natural California girl. I
believe she was raised in California. She's an actual, true
California girl, and while he is not a California guy,

(02:36):
he vibes with that wellness talk and it's very Hollywood
and very actor And that is not a diss it's
just a fact. In La there's so much talk about
everything before any other place. It's every peptide, every facial,
every plastic surgery, every herb, every sie she all these
things that other people don't. You know. I'm sure they

(02:59):
were matching it and chying before anywhere else in La.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
So I like it as a match.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I once very briefly met her ex justin Throw, and
he seems more intense. Brad actually seems like a decent
match for Jennifer Anesta because he was like mellow and
she's kind of like that mellow California boheme earthy type.
And I like this guy for her because I do
have institutional knowledge. I'm hesitating to say whether I'm betting

(03:29):
on it.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I might be.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I think I'm betting on it because she's at a
similar she might be a little old, a little older
than I am, but at a similar age, where like
you have different priorities and you want peace, you want balance,
you want support, you want love, you want nice, you
want simple, you want easy, but you want to be challenged,

(03:56):
and you want attraction.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
He's a handsome, nice man and he seems kind.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
This is my analysis, and I'm pretty decent with people,
believe it or not. I know you've seen me make
some big mistakes. But what's weird is my first gut
instinct on my big relationship mistakes was right. I just
masked it with being love bombed and didn't know the difference.
We didn't have terms like love bombed yet. So it's
the first answer is best. Often, the first wedding dress

(04:26):
is best, the first house is best. The first answer
on the SATs was best statistically, So I am team
Jennifer Aniston and Jim Curtis and I would bet on them.
I'm going to bet on them. I think this is good.
I like it, and I'm happy for her and for him,
who I like.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I said thought was a lovely man.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
The two women on TMZ that were standing in front
of a restaurant at Rhode Island, and what I've come
to realize is being asked to leave the restaurant because
I suppose it was either closing time they were there
and had to leave, or they couldn't get in because
it was closing time, refusing, and then these two blonde,
stereotypical New England girls like young Karens that one worked

(05:16):
at PEPSI. One kept saying, I'm the assistant, I'm an AG.
I didn't even know what she meant. I thought it
was a d assistants. I didn't know what she was saying.
It could have been the assistant director, but it was AG,
which is attorney general, but she was an assistant.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
These girls had a kicking.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
And screaming tantrum, trying to pull rank, trying to say
they know the law, trying to say a body cam
has to be taken off. They didn't know all the boopholes,
They didn't know all the details, they didn't know the
fine print. They were in this CoP's face. They just
wouldn't leave. They had to flex like two fucking morons.
One that works at a high job at PEPSI, one
that is in the legal profession. Their spouses or husbands

(05:51):
or boyfriends are nearby. They get cuffed. They take it
from a zero to a two thousand. They get cuffed.
One is kicking and screaming like a lamb going to
slaughter leaving her legs out of the cab so that
you could tell they wanted the cup to have to
like hit their legs. Then they could say you hit me.
Like they were everything that's wrong and they thought they
had it on their side, Like you're gonna regret this, Like,

(06:15):
oh my god, I said to Brent, you could take
it from zero to one hundred and no time. If
you don't do anything wrong, you won't get in trouble.
I was like, listen, we can get jammed up. You
can associate with bad people. Bad things can happen, you
can be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Yes,
shit can happen. Everything will not always be perfect. But
what the actual fuck you are.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Just standing there?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Can't get into a dumb It's not the met Gala,
it's not the Academy Awards. It's a restaurant and Rhode Island.
Get your life together, do better, aim higher, shoot for
the stars.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Cheat up.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
You're begging, stealing and borrowing and kicking and screaming to
get into a restaurant in Rhode Island. You'd wacko and
now your whole life has changed. You probably lost your job,
Like no one behaves that way. You're allowed to fire
someone for acting like a complete lunatic in public over nothing.
On the other side of the coin, a woman found

(07:13):
the young fourteen year old that pickpocketed her, took her
purse with her passport and it. The woman has eight kids.
I wouldn't care. She fucking whipped this person on the street.
She took her by a ponytail. Justified. This girl stole
her purse with her passport and it. This poor woman
has eight children. Not that the young girl could know that,
but like, that's justified getting cancuffed. Trust and believe someone

(07:35):
steals my purse with the passport in it. We are
throwing down, I might get arrested. Someone comes from my child,
I will throw the fuck down. Get the handcuffs, let's
go make a fool of me. Put the body cam on.
But for to go to a restaurant and Rhode Island?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Are we good? Are you unwell? It's unbelievable. It has
to be a risk reward.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
If I'm throwing down with a police officer, it has
to be high stakes poker. There has to be a
very serious reason. Why What was the reason? Did anyone
back them up? Did anyone think it was a good
idea to fight. To fuck with the police, Why would
you fuck with the police. There has to be decorum
and the law. Police officers make mistakes, people make mistakes.

(08:22):
There is a margin of error. Police officers have done
terrible things. Humans have done terrible things. I get it,
But you're being denied access to a restaurant scram. I
don't got to tell you twice, babe, A doorman, maybe
police officer GTFO. In business and in personal, the power

(08:58):
of no is very important. I've had some massive deals,
come through massive deals, but I know my worth, I
know my value, and based on the other deals I'm doing,
it's just not at the level and this will be
so over our skis and we will say no and
be willing to walk. Don't say no if you're not

(09:19):
willing to walk. You have to be willing to walk.
You have to walk. You're walking. And I've done that
many times. So I'll get these deals and then I'll
say no, it's just not exactly it. There are many reasons.
There are ways that I negotiate, and nine times out
of ten they come back. Because the power of no
and the power of being able to walk and willing

(09:41):
to walk and by the way, I've been on the
opposite side. I don't fuck around with what I'm not
willing to lose. I've paid full ask for many homes,
not knowing whether or not they could have taken two
hundred thousand less.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It wasn't a risk I was willing to take. One
of them.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Is a waterfront property that I'm on right now in
the Hamptons that I I believe I underpaid because I
was willing to do a lot of work and it's
worth a lot more. Did it matter if I got
it for two hundred thousand less because they might have
taken two hundred thousand less and they ask.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I wasn't willing to lose it.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It was on the sand, on the water property I'll
never find again for that price. So I was like,
this is the fuck around and find out program. I
don't fuck around with what I'm not willing to lose.
I always was by the book in my divorce, and
you know I'm a rule breaker. I was not fucking
around with what I was not willing to lose. I
don't play games when it comes to my daughter, and
if there's a deal and I want it so bad

(10:32):
or back in the day when I wanted something so
bad it was a spinoff. It was this, It was
take less on this so I can do other things.
I don't fuck around. But when you know you have
the leverage and you're willing to walk it's the sweet spot.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Then you get a lot more.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
And then you realize, do that take those chances, because
those are the times that you start to learn your
real worth, how much people really are willing to sacrifice
for you, pay for you, And then you can reset
all your boundaries because if you find out that you've
pushed the threshold and there's room, then you go further

(11:06):
next time. That's what happens in yoga posts. How far
can you take it? That's what happens in a relationship.
What is your worth? It's a very powerful thing. You
set a precedent for yourself of what's going to happen,
of what your value is. Whoever you go out with
needs endorsements. Really try your hardest, try your hardest, but

(11:27):
also dig down the rabbit hole. Where do they live,
what do they do, how do they vibe? How many
kids do they have? Where do they vacation if they do,
like where do they work before? Like where did they
go to college. Get as much information that will tell
you something. Do not go out cold and blind. It
will just you want to preserve your energy, your bandwidth.

(11:49):
You want to be excited. So if I had gone
out with this guy that looked good looking and successful
and not ask my friend, I would have wasted the
night or maybe wasted a month. Maybe I would have
thought he's good looking. Maybe I would have slept with him.
Maybe I would have gotten into a relationship with him
and then realized what a piece of shit he is.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Please do your research. So there's a guy Alex Hormosy.
I don't know who he is.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I just see him on TikTok, which means he could
be real or he could be not real, meaning like
TikTok is another planet and there are different creatures that
live on TikTok. And I don't know if you guys
know who Alex Hormosy is, but I think he's some
version of an entrepreneur. He has books, he's a very
good speaker, and he gives very good advice. I don't
know what he's even who he's talking to, but he
always has some entrepreneurial quote that is good and again,

(12:34):
not again. But there are people who he could be
an amazing entrepreneur. He could be not a good entrepreneur.
I don't know anything about him. What I do know
is that he's good at talking and communicating, which is
half the battle. Many people have won presidential elections because
of that. So he said, ambition means you need to
get used to being alone. You're exceptional, you may not
do non exceptional normal things.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Bingo, I hear it.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, first of all, ambition and success means you need
to get used to being alone, because to be successful
means you beat to a different drum. And this is
what he's saying. You think of things differently. But when
you sign that dotted line, you are alone. Like you're
ultimately doing it alone. It's hard to really hold someone's
hand and do it the whole way. There are some
partnerships that are like that, but it's not that common.

(13:20):
And for me, it is a very alone process. Okay,
I'm taking all the risk. I have the upside, and
I have big ideas, and those ideas don't come nine
to five.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't really have a work life balance.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I do because I make myself have one, and because
I get to be at home a lot. But I
don't have the traditional sense of a work life balance
by any hours or anything like that. So this guy said,
but I always think of Steve Jobs, the ones crazy
enough to think they could change the world are the
ones that might actually do it. And he was unusual

(13:53):
and he had strange hygiene habits and people thought he
was insane. Now I'm not Steve Jobs. I don't have
a success life, and I also bathe every day. But
I do think some people think them a lot, think
them intense. You know, don't understand me because I do
do some exceptional things. No, I'm not gonna I do
exceptional things, and I have exceptional ideas. That's just the fact.

(14:15):
I'm not going to apologize for it. So I do
sometimes feel different. And if you feel lonely or like weird,
or like you're different, or people look down and you
were self conscious because you're strange, that's just because you're interesting.
Be interesting, be unique. If everybody thinks you're just so
nice and amicable and wonderful, you're either hiding something or

(14:36):
you're pretty basic.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
An average.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Dating, do not go out with anyone unless you know
from at least one person something about them, someone lived
in their town, someone works with them, someone understands it,
someone knows them, someone knows about I guess their job,
but their kid. I would rather be someone knows firsthand.

(15:02):
I've definitely gone out with many people and not known firsthand,
and I'm not saying it hasn't always worked. But I
almost went out with someone and I saw the name,
I saw the town where they live, and I called
someone I know and he said run. And it was
so freeing to be like bye bye, Like it was
a non discussion. It was zero wasted times, zero wasted

(15:26):
make up, nothing,
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