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December 23, 2025 17 mins

And shoutouts to Miley and NPH's forced facetune. PLUS: Doing business with friends? DON'T

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay, So Kim Kardashian is my guru, my Gandhi, my
north Star, my shaman, my life coach, all because of
one moment that I hope actually was her and wasn't
some manufactured AI.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Reproduction of her.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
But people on TikTok share clips of other people, so
it'll be like Kardashian clips or Bethany clips, and so
you don't know where it came from. But I just
landed inside Kim Kardashian's bathroom where she had candy broken
all over the top of the bathtub, like the surface

(00:54):
next to the bathtub, which we can unpack later or
never for my mental health journey. But then I guess
there was a letter or some indication that an elf
had come or many elves had come to her house.
These are the Calabasis elves, and her bathtub was filled

(01:21):
with liquid chocolate.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Now I'm a.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Bad parent because moments like that would be hard to
appreciate the cuteness and the thought, which is the most
important thing, because when I'm going to be buried in
the box, I'm certainly not going to be worried about
the chocolate ring mark around my bathtub. Maybe I'll be
buried in the bathtub. Maybe I'll be right in the
bathtub with chocolate. I don't know, but I do know

(01:49):
that in that moment, if I walked into my bathroom
and I saw that it was filled with liquid chocolate,
I would have anxiety. I would just have anxiety. I
would have anxiety. I also, I don't know that I
would want to drink it. I don't love liquid chocolate
that much. I just would start to worry about who's
cleaning it up and how, and everyone in the comments
was like, well, Staff's gonna clean it up.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like okay.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Still, even with seventy five and staff, I would still
have to control myself. Like it'd be like if my
daughter brought me like a plate with no tray into
my bed that was like overflowing with syrup, even though
I intellectually know that it's just sheets, and like I
even have a multiple bedding deals like Bowl and Branch

(02:34):
would give me sheets just for syrup content and to
prove how many threads are dedicated to syrup absorption. Like
it doesn't even matter. I could call Cozy Earth and
they would they would they would sew a bowl into
my sheets on my bed to put syrup and pancakes

(02:55):
in I could eat cereal in my bed, in a
cereal sheet bowl, but even still I would still be thinking.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
About the mess.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm that crazy bitch that like if I spill something,
because yes, also I eat in the bed, not full meals,
not things with significant smells.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm not a fucking animal.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
We could talk later by people that eat in their
car on social media with long nails that like like
like sauce and crunchy like chicken finger bits are getting
underneath and it makes me sick, like putting your nails
into an in and out burger, digging into the bun
with the onion. Like I took one bite of an
in and out burger and I couldn't get the fucking

(03:37):
smell off of my hands for hours, and that onion
thing that like Dutchman thing. No, so I don't eat
anything that has a smell in my bed. I will
eat ice cream. I will eat some version of a
chip that's not like oniony. But but nevertheless, if I
spill a tiny drop of something that might have a

(03:58):
little colors, I mean into my sheets, I become Lady
Macbeth out damn spot, and I need to get it
out right away. And that's how I am a stains
on my clothes too. I got a stain on a
place mat last night. That's a fucking sociopath that needs
to clean a stain off a place mat, which is
the purpose of the place mat in the first place.
But it was like a cloth place mat, which is

(04:20):
for fucking psychopaths. Okay, only a psychopath designs a cloth
place mat. That says, you're a rich, stupid asshole because
you know that you've never gotten sauce on a napkin,
a cloth napkin deep sauce like red wine or chocolate,
and it's never come off. It's never come off. Because
if it doesn't come off clothes, why don't we or

(04:42):
we should make clothes in the material of holiday time
napkins because somehow majestically there's gonna be cotton that's on
your cotton dining table napkin, and you're gonna just like
wipe your hands on it as if it's your clothing
because it's made of cloth, and that doesn't make any sense,
but it's a napkin, so we're gonna just wipe your

(05:02):
hands on it, just like chocolate cake with raspberry sauce,
No problem, wine, get it off the corner of your lips,
no problem. What fucking magic dry cleaner is cleaning met
What majestic Aladdin on a fucking magic carpet wizard dry
cleaner is cleaning the napkins that sit around your holiday table,

(05:25):
Because that's who needs to be cleaning my clothing. Because
I have stains on white T shirts from things that
never even spilled on them. Never you walked past a
floral arrangement and somehow that pollen jumped across the room
and is fucking on your shirt. So I don't know
how a napkin is supposed to weather all that storm.
Nor do I know why a place mat should be

(05:46):
absorbing and staining. And then I'm cleaning my place mat
And that was my moment with Brin last night, and
she was like, isn't that the point? I'm like, get
me on medication the minute you see more signs of this.

(06:12):
I just love Miley Cyrus. I just love her. If
you don't love her, fuck off, Like, if Miley has
hold on, I have to look up.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
If Miley has haters.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
If Miley has haters, I don't mind having haters. That's
what I'm gonna buy. If people hate on Miley Cyrus
or troll her in her comments, or she gets any
version of canceled, then I will never care about having
any haters.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Again, not that I really do. Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Neil Patrick Harris had a problem. Neil Patrick Harris commented
on a post that I guess he was in with
Abby Lee Miller. She's a dance mom. She's been on here,
because I guess he was like, what the hell happened
in my face? Because people take creative license with filtering
other people's faces, and I don't know why nobody talks
about this. It's such an extraordinary topic, like this is

(07:08):
so Bethany coated right now, Okay, this is facts. I
was with my daughter and there is an A list
performer woman and I took a picture of her with
my daughter and I could tell that she didn't want
to do it, and she gave a really stink ey face,
and I took the picture and then I saw the
picture and I was like, I can't fucking post this.
There's no way I could do this person that I

(07:28):
don't even like dirty, I can't do it. And I
had the picture for years because this person looked like
shit because every picture they've ever posted is filtered and
doesn't look anything like them. So now I couldn't post
the picture with my daughter. I couldn't even show it
to anyone. It's horrendous. Countless times have I been with
housewives backstage at something, seeing them, we take a group

(07:49):
picture and then they're like looking at me with the
look of death, do not do me dirty? And then
I'm self conscious because what am I gonna do. I
can't like go fill filter them to not do them
dirty and make them look like weirdo dolls, and then
I'm gonna look like my normal self next to them,
and I'm not filtering myself. So that's another picture that
goes in the dumpster fire. I've been with other actresses,

(08:12):
women that, like I guess, they're very protective of their image,
their body, their choice. We take a picture, they didn't
even say anything, and I'm like, I'm not doing that.
They'll fucking hate me forever. Is no way I'm posting
that picture. So suffice it to say, I just I
think celebrities that don't celebrities that need their image controlled.
They have to like get photo approval. They can't let

(08:34):
you take them. Maybe that's why people are super hesitant.
You can't know, do not take a picture of a
woman over forty without Except for me, I couldn't care less,
which is why I'm in cookie monster pajamas looking like
I just crawled out of a sewer. But I understand
because he's like, what the actual fuck? Because she had

(08:56):
it goes the other way too. She wanted to probably
filter herself, so she had to take him down with
her because otherwise he's gonna look like normal.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
And it's the comparison.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's the same weird reason why I think that older
men look older next to younger women, because it's the comparison.
An old man on his own could look like a
man next to a younger woman.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Mmm, looks like a fucking skeleton.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh god, let's talk about doing business with friends. Don't
fucking do it. Don't do business with friends, don't do
business with partners. Sometimes it just seems like a good idea.
It's not a good idea, and it's not because it's
not because you're gonna fuck them over or they're gonna
fuck you over.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's not that at all.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
It's because the way you speak to people in business
is different than the way you speak to people personally now,
I don't mean respectfully or not respectfully, or you talk
to someone like the.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Boss because you are the boss. But that too, that too,
I've that too.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
You could have a way of being very direct with
people that you work with, not a lot of foreplay,
not a lot of pleasantries, not a lot of intros
and outros. You just get to the main act because
you have a lot of work to do, and you
are more hey, what are you doing? I made the pasta,
I bought the thing I returned, And you talk totally differently,
but not just because of that. Your friends may not

(10:28):
understand how you operate in business, and because they're just
two totally different ways of communication. Like on the day
to day, you could want to waste tons of time
fucking around talking about nothing to your friends, and you
could gossip and you could be funny and you could

(10:49):
be light, and you could be cute, and you could
be Business is not funny and light and cute. It
can be, but it by and large is goal oriented.
And friendships are not really goal oriented. They're fluid, they move,
they vibe. Relationships are not necessarily goal oriented. But with

(11:09):
business at all times, the people that you're doing business
with have to be adding value for you, and vice versa.
It's a deal, and your friendships aren't really like that,
and so it's the psychological and emotional aspect of business
and friendships that are difficult, and I just don't recommend it.

(11:30):
My one friend said that every time she's gone into
business with friends, it's ended horribly. But here's a different thing.
I have someone working with me that is a friend's son.
It could not be better. I have a situation where
I'm doing something with a friend and they're great, and

(11:55):
they're a great person personally from a business standpoint, we
come from two grossly different backgrounds. And I'm more indulgent
in how much I'll talk to my friends, so then
they might think that I'm going to be that indulgent
in how much I can talk about business. And I

(12:16):
could walk someone through every second of a date that
they go on, everything about their parenting, their organization. I
literally just did someone's entire wardrobe over I would have
charged easily fifty thousand dollars to do what I did.
I picked every single article of clothing for their wardrobe.
That's friends, I would not be in a business situation

(12:39):
and be able to time suck and waste this much
time on a task like that in business. Nor can
I drone on about organizing and chicken salad in business.
I am very different. And sometimes if I even go
close to business with someone i'm in a relationship with,
it doesn't work well because because I'm usually in the

(13:02):
superior position, and that doesn't work well because I don't
want some of that I'm dating to be in any
kind of inferior position and seem like they work for
me that I would never want that for them. And
I'm by nature a boss. It's just who I am.
I'm a boss, and I've worked for other people. I
am great working for other people. I'm a great partner.

(13:22):
I'm a great I was going to say I'm a
great employee. I don't know if I'm a great employee,
but I'm great if there's a client and I'm serving them,
if someone has something they need me to do and
I'm being paid to do it, i am Yeah. I'm
a great employee actually, but I am a boss in
many situations that I don't want to be a boss
in my relationship. I don't want that. I want to

(13:42):
be with a partner. So there are many different dynamics
to working working with friends, working with partners, working with kids,
working with family, But I've the one exception for me
is a friend child. There is a side of TikTok,

(14:16):
a small side called Bethany hate Talk. I'm naming it that,
and I only go on there once in a while
because someone will tell me something that someone said.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
So one of the things was people were.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Very mad that I on the Toast podcast said that
I created food noise, which I did. Now, one straggler
found something that one time, I think the National Institute
of Health maybe in two thousand and six mentioned something
about food noise, like maybe the two words were written
together in one time. But in the modern day, I no,

(14:49):
in any day, in the modern day and the olden
day and the golden day and the fucking the cave era.
I created the term food noise.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I did.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Sorry, I did. I wrote about it in a book.
There's proof the Toast Kwadia Ashri. Everyone was criticizing, saying, no,
she didn't, no, she didn't. She went she did a
research with chat GBT. But also if you look at
naturally thin my book in two thousand and I don't
know seven nine something. I created the term food noise,
So you are so very fucking welcome. I did invent
the skinny margarita. You're also fucking welcome, Okay. I was

(15:21):
one of the first people ever to get women to
drink tequila.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
You're welcome. Sorry, not sorry.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I also am an influencer, so those things have influenced people.
People talk about food noise, make any money off of it.
I invented the skinny margarita. Believe it or not, I don't.
In this day, every time someone orders a skinny margarita
to make money off of it. Some people say things.
Paris Hilton said, that's hot. I'm sure she's not the
first time someone uttered the two words that and hot together,

(15:52):
but she coined the phrase. I coined the phrase food noise.
Christian Siriano hot mess.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
He coined it.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm sure things have been hot and things have been
a mess before, but he coined it. It's okay for
people to have done things, seen things, been things, invented things,
and said things first.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
First person to monetize the Housewives First Housewives book, and
people are allowed to sing their own praises. There might
not be somebody else singing your praises. You better fucking
do it for yourself. If you feel like you look good,
to be like, you know what, I feel like, I
look good today. Because also there are many times when
you look like shit, and you'll tell your friends you

(16:35):
look like shit so they feel better too. But when
you look good, you could say I feel good today.
You're allowed to feel good. You're allowed to be happy.
You're allowed to have done something, said something, thought of something.
You're not going to run around all day every day
talking about it. You're not going to brag all day
about everybody that you know. I don't talk about it
all day, but once in a while I'll say it.
And you know what, you should say it too. Look

(16:57):
at this, Look at my Christmas tree. Look how beautiful
well it is. Look how I wrap this gift? Look
at this gorgeous meal. What is social media? Social media?
Everyone's posting, so people look at the ship that they're
doing and saying and have invented. So don't hate the player,
hate the game, and get off my jock. Because I

(17:19):
did that, I said that, I did that. I invented
that I started that you're welcome
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