December 15, 2025 • 14 mins
Coming from nothing makes it hard to care about... a lot of "problems." But giving them a life you would have loved is precious. PLUS: Fill your love tank!!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
One thing I do sometimes struggle with is the level
of compassion we should be having for our teens if
we grew up in a challenging environment, Like do any
of you have this thing where your teenager will be
going through something and it's real and their struggle is real,
and you validate that their struggle is real or it's
not that real, or it's not or it's like a
(00:33):
high class problem that you are dealing with them being
upset about and lacking a compassion or sensitivity chip because
you know what it's like to be in an alcoholic
or physically abusive or drug addiction or gambling, soaked, dysfunctional,
fucked up, smoked and drank while pregnant, throw the kids
(00:56):
out in the backyard, pray for the best immoral, psychologically warped
household like I did. Like it's hard when our kids
like they didn't get the most expensive sneakers, or everyone
has this, or they're all going here, and like it's
hard to have compassion in those areas, And there has
to be a line where if it's something that seems
(01:17):
fairly real, you do validate their experience. You don't want
them to be experiencing the pain that you had. I mean,
there's fifty shades of horrible childhoods. And then you have
a child that really orders in uber eats, you know,
lives on asa e bulls, or has really nice clothes,
or never has to worry about a meal or going
(01:38):
on vacation or going to a camp. And I tell you, now,
there's no way for me to say my.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Daughter's not spoiled.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
She goes to a nice school, she has nice things,
she has wonderful experience, she's a very good person. She's
a wonderful human being, and from what I understand, compared
to most other teens, she's exceptional. That's what other parents say.
I don't know. I don't have access to that many teens,
so I'm not one of these people. It's gonna be like,
my child's the smartest, my child's the best. I get
it from other people that they say she's really wonderful,
(02:04):
and she happens to do very well in school, completely
self regulated, having nothing to do with me. But you
just also want to find the line between validating what
they're going through and having compassion and not indulging every
single whim or struggle. They're not made of glass. They're
(02:25):
not supposed to be wrapped in bubble wrap. They're not
supposed to be fragile. Handle with care per se. Because
they have to deal with life, which is not fragile
handle with care. They have to be resilient, they have
to be strong, they have.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To be tough.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Different people have different ways of doing things. I was
just out with someone who said that their parents never
gave them anything, and they will give their kids very little,
even though they have a lot of.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Money, because they have to have that hunger.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't know that I subscribe to that specifically for myself,
because I had that hunger times a thousand, and that
I am very triggered by it. Because I was in
my thirties not knowing if I could afford a taxi
down or worrying about being able to order a drink.
I lived in like panic fear money noise, where I
would bounce checks and have insufficient funds fees, and then
(03:09):
you'd get five insufficient funds fees because one check was
bouncing another and the ATM would say, you don't have
enough money to take out forty dollars. And it was
very stressful and gave me anxiety. I really just don't
want my daughter to have that. I talked to mare
Cuban about this, Like he's on a private plan. He's
not putting his kids in, you know, in a train,
and they're not going to live the exact same life
that we lived. A you want better for your kids,
(03:30):
but it's a different hand they were dealt. It's a
hand to be dealt to be my daughter, like just
to have some people talk to her because of me.
Some people the first thing they say about her is
ask her about me. Sometimes she doesn't want me to
always go to school because she doesn't want it to.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Be about me.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I get that by the same token, she gets to
go to amazing things and we go to good sports
games and concerts. Like everybody has their own struggles, and
everybody has their own triumphs, and some have way more
struggles than others. So I just implore you to not overindulge,
but not over belittle based.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
On your own experience.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Like my inner monologue is very different than my outer
monologue of my daughter sometimes because my inner monologue is like,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Who gives a shit?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I don't say that because she's not supposed to
feel the pain of what I felt, and she doesn't
know exactly what it's like to really suffer. And even
with relief work where I want her to come and
do it and she will, she hasn't experienced it to
the degree that I have. She hasn't been like in
the trenches. I feel bad about that I have to.
I haven't wanted to expose her to how unsafe some
(04:36):
of the zones have been. And sometimes she's been at school,
and I could do better. I could definitely do better,
and having her feel and view what hardship is like,
so I can increase her compassion, so I can increase
her philanthropy.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It's hard. It's also hard for it to get our
kids to understand what's going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But I don't understand a lot of what's going on
in the world. I don't read enough, so she doesn't
read enough. She reads for school. I don't know that
much about politics, so she she doesn't know that much
about politics.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Like I don't go to museums that much.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
She hasn't been to that many museums unless it's field
trips that much. I don't travel that much out of work.
I do one or two trips a year with her,
which to me is substantial. We go to Europe, but
my friend's kids are older, so they're empty nesters. They're
in Saudi Arabia, they're in Doha, they're on Safari, like
(05:24):
I go to La I go to Paris for fashion week,
like I. You know, we beat ourselves up in a
million different ways. But I'm just saying that they're not
supposed to live the exact same life that we lived,
and we're not gonna make it perfect. We do the
best we can. I'm very glad that she self regulates
because I'm not good at that either. I'm not good
at a lot like I'm a good parent. I structure,
I'm strict, I'm on the case. I have a good, beautiful, sweet, kind, smart,
(05:50):
compassionate child, but I have many areas where.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I can improve.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
VICKI gumbleson years ago in the house. So I talked
about her love tank being empty in her relationship. It
can happen in relationships that are romantic. Let me tell
you something. Your car and your engine are stripped and
you feel gross and disgusting and like you have a
jaloppy dirt bag car when your love tank with your
(06:31):
kids is not full, it's really the worst. So I've
been doing a bit of business travel. Now I do
a couple of days and then I come home for
giant stretches, and it's like on paper, I'm gonna be
with my daughter the whole time. We're gonna have all
this meaningful time. And when I'm away from her, I starve,
Like I just crave being back and like having just
moments in between her doing homework or like just hugging,
(06:52):
or just a car ride where we're laughing, or we
go to get popsicles, or the sit down dinner, which
is so critical and there have been books written about
the sit down I'm dinner with your family, which I
need to be way better at because she's coming home
from a practice or studying and she wants to order
into this and then it's like more transactional and it's
not as like substantial. When I cook them and I
like really plan a meal and we sit down and
(07:14):
it's plated nicely and we sit down together. She'll always say,
how was your day, And it's so cute because like
that's meaningful. But like we had Thanksgiving coming, I had
been away and then she said, can I go away
to New York to see my friends, and I had
someone go with her because I had just gotten off
a plane and I just needed to be home for
my mental and physical health, and she wanted to go
to New York. So I allowed her and treated her
(07:35):
to go to New York for two days. But then
it meant days we weren't together, and I also secretly
liked it because it meant some day as I could breathe.
But then she got back and I had like a
friend around, and then she had work to do, and like,
we still weren't vibing. And then it was before Thanksgiving
and something went off with the two of us. Something
went a little bit off, and then it permeated into Thanksgiving,
so it wasn't like a connected day, and Thanksgiving isn't
(07:58):
really a connected day anyway, because you're cooking, you're driving,
you're planning, you're getting dressed, you're transacting, and there's a
lot going on, and that's not what I mean by
meaningful connection. So my tank got even more depleted. And
then my daughter had a friend come visit. This was
the Thanksgiving break, so then she wanted to see her
absolute best friend, which I want for her because you're
only as happy as your least happy kid. And I
(08:19):
don't care if she's mad at me as much as like,
I want her happy with her friend. So she left
her best friend in Connecticut, so now she's with her friend.
And it was still a little snippy. And then Sunday
came and we both it's not just me to get starving,
it's her too, and we both were starving for it,
and she said, Mama, can we just stay around all
day in pajamas and watch movies?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And we watched a show all day.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
In pajamas and snuggle with her head on my chest,
and then I made a really beautiful dinner for the
two of us. It was like scallops and brown rice,
and it was so nice to sit down together and
then get back in bed and then watch our favorite
holiday movie, which is The Family Stone Holds Up.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It is decades old.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Diane Keaton rest in Peace is in it, Sarah Jessica
Parker is in it. It is amazing, meaningful, not kitchy deep,
but also has very moments of light Christmas movies. And
we watched it because we're big on rituals and traditions.
And I was so fed that she came home from
school yesterday and on Monday was like, MoMA, can I
get into bed and can we watch because she.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Like craved it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We both did and we were so cute with each other,
and like it was so nice that it was the
day before she went right back to school because it
kind of made up for the whole week of not
being fed and my tank being empty. And I just
want to say, find the meaning, convey the need, and
like it's not a group activity, it's not a dinner
with all your kids, like with each kid.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's harder for you.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Guys if you have more find the meaningful tank filling time,
because it's so incredible and it's so important during the holidays,
and it's so important during the teen years because they're
emotional and hormonal and people have mental health struggles and
things like that. So I just need you, guys to
fill the tank, like please do it for me and
(10:06):
for you and for them.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It just heals me. It heals me to the core.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I'm so happy because I am going away on
a secret mission that is supermodel secret that I can't
share with you, And like I was going to go
away for a couple more days because it's in a
beautiful exotic location, or you're flying all the way there
just for a shoot.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't care about all the money. I'm going there
to do a work and I just I don't want
to leave my daughter. I want to be back and
like I want my tank perpetually full right now, I'm
like craving it I am going on a trip. It
is also more unrelatable content. I can afford to fly private,
and I rarely do not rarely, but I don't always
(10:49):
do it because I do feel it's wasteful.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It has to be something that means something with a group.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And sometimes I'm flying for work and it's exhausting and
I have to do it quick turnaround and there are
a lot of people with me, or I have to
carry a lot of shit, or it's a hard to
get to place, and then I'm exhausted and I don't
want to even do the thing I went there for.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And then I don't want to work anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And I say to myself, like I can afford it,
and it's lavish, but like, why don't I fly private?
Because sometimes I like count up how much it actually costs,
and it's wasteful and like the fuel, and like I
always say, I can never break the seal, Like can't
I just become that person that's like, you know, successful,
Because people will be like, why do you want Spirit
Airlines once in a while. Why because it's got the
fastest route sometimes two different places. And why am I
(11:32):
on Jet Blue sometimes? Why because sometimes I'll take a
whole row for Britta and I And because it's convenient
and they have good snacks, and because they have a
good lay down Jet Blue Mint. And people just have
all these judgments and I don't really care because I
will fly commercial all the time and have done it
so many times for relief work. Again, not relatable, but
I'm getting somewhere because it could be meaningful in your
own way. It could be about the mini bar, it
(11:52):
could be about the hotel expense, it could be about
the sweater, it could be about whatever it is for you,
you know, going out to a restaurant, whatever your version
of a spurge that you can afford. Is. So I
have this amazing supermodel experience and I'm going on this
incredible trip that is impossible to get to and it's
gonna be hours and hours to get there like well
over ten hours versus you know, under five maybe, And
(12:16):
I said like, because I kept saying, why don't you
break the seal? And one time I broke the seal
because we couldn't get out of Aspen and it was
like a snow issue. And I was like, Brin, I'm
doing this treat for the two of us and we're
gonna enjoy it and celebrate it. And I will say
it felt like a crazy treat, like it didn't feel
like an entitled, snobby celebrity vibes. It was like, wait,
look at us, and look how hard Mommy worked and
(12:36):
I worked so hard, and look what we can do
for ourselves. And it was like a little inspiring between us.
It was inspired. It was like, wait, I don't need
a man, and you know I could do this for
ourselves and it had meaning. And the boat when I
did that with her, which I included you guys in
the journey, felt the same too. It didn't wasn't wastebault.
It wasn't I was spoiled. It was on a work trip.
I maximized it because I was working and utilized it
(12:57):
for a work event. And then it was us getting
to have the freedom to go from that work event
in one location to another. Because of the boat. It
was meaningful connection. It was privacy when sometimes I get bothered.
It was not about the lap of luxury. It was
about the freedom to jump in and bond with her
and do all the sports all day, versus just being
transactional in a hotel. So again it's not relatable, but
(13:19):
you find your own version of this, but it had
greater meaning. And I broke the seal and then I
had this place that I'm going to which is so
incredibly hard to get to, and I was like, wait,
this is when you spurge and spend the money. This
is when you do it right. And I'm doing it right,
and I'm gonna make an experience.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I'll probably get kevi arm and bring interesting food on
and have fun with it, and I'm going to document
the whole experience for my business trip.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So it is still business.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And it became a good reason because it combined all
things that I need.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So that's what I think.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's what I'm doing, and that's the story.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Most to do the faster, faster, most the past
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Want to do to the faster
One thing I do sometimes struggle with is the level
of compassion we should be having for our teens if
we grew up in a challenging environment, Like do any
of you have this thing where your teenager will be
going through something and it's real and their struggle is real,
and you validate that their struggle is real or it's
not that real, or it's not or it's like a
(00:33):
high class problem that you are dealing with them being
upset about and lacking a compassion or sensitivity chip because
you know what it's like to be in an alcoholic
or physically abusive or drug addiction or gambling, soaked, dysfunctional,
fucked up, smoked and drank while pregnant, throw the kids
(00:56):
out in the backyard, pray for the best immoral, psychologically warped
household like I did. Like it's hard when our kids
like they didn't get the most expensive sneakers, or everyone
has this, or they're all going here, and like it's
hard to have compassion in those areas, And there has
to be a line where if it's something that seems
(01:17):
fairly real, you do validate their experience. You don't want
them to be experiencing the pain that you had. I mean,
there's fifty shades of horrible childhoods. And then you have
a child that really orders in uber eats, you know,
lives on asa e bulls, or has really nice clothes,
or never has to worry about a meal or going
(01:38):
on vacation or going to a camp. And I tell you, now,
there's no way for me to say my.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Daughter's not spoiled.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
She goes to a nice school, she has nice things,
she has wonderful experience, she's a very good person. She's
a wonderful human being, and from what I understand, compared
to most other teens, she's exceptional. That's what other parents say.
I don't know. I don't have access to that many teens,
so I'm not one of these people. It's gonna be like,
my child's the smartest, my child's the best. I get
it from other people that they say she's really wonderful,
(02:04):
and she happens to do very well in school, completely
self regulated, having nothing to do with me. But you
just also want to find the line between validating what
they're going through and having compassion and not indulging every
single whim or struggle. They're not made of glass. They're
(02:25):
not supposed to be wrapped in bubble wrap. They're not
supposed to be fragile. Handle with care per se. Because
they have to deal with life, which is not fragile
handle with care. They have to be resilient, they have
to be strong, they have.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To be tough.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Different people have different ways of doing things. I was
just out with someone who said that their parents never
gave them anything, and they will give their kids very little,
even though they have a lot of.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Money, because they have to have that hunger.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't know that I subscribe to that specifically for myself,
because I had that hunger times a thousand, and that
I am very triggered by it. Because I was in
my thirties not knowing if I could afford a taxi
down or worrying about being able to order a drink.
I lived in like panic fear money noise, where I
would bounce checks and have insufficient funds fees, and then
(03:09):
you'd get five insufficient funds fees because one check was
bouncing another and the ATM would say, you don't have
enough money to take out forty dollars. And it was
very stressful and gave me anxiety. I really just don't
want my daughter to have that. I talked to mare
Cuban about this, Like he's on a private plan. He's
not putting his kids in, you know, in a train,
and they're not going to live the exact same life
that we lived. A you want better for your kids,
(03:30):
but it's a different hand they were dealt. It's a
hand to be dealt to be my daughter, like just
to have some people talk to her because of me.
Some people the first thing they say about her is
ask her about me. Sometimes she doesn't want me to
always go to school because she doesn't want it to.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Be about me.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I get that by the same token, she gets to
go to amazing things and we go to good sports
games and concerts. Like everybody has their own struggles, and
everybody has their own triumphs, and some have way more
struggles than others. So I just implore you to not overindulge,
but not over belittle based.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
On your own experience.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Like my inner monologue is very different than my outer
monologue of my daughter sometimes because my inner monologue is like,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Who gives a shit?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I don't say that because she's not supposed to
feel the pain of what I felt, and she doesn't
know exactly what it's like to really suffer. And even
with relief work where I want her to come and
do it and she will, she hasn't experienced it to
the degree that I have. She hasn't been like in
the trenches. I feel bad about that I have to.
I haven't wanted to expose her to how unsafe some
(04:36):
of the zones have been. And sometimes she's been at school,
and I could do better. I could definitely do better,
and having her feel and view what hardship is like,
so I can increase her compassion, so I can increase
her philanthropy.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It's hard. It's also hard for it to get our
kids to understand what's going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But I don't understand a lot of what's going on
in the world. I don't read enough, so she doesn't
read enough. She reads for school. I don't know that
much about politics, so she she doesn't know that much
about politics.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Like I don't go to museums that much.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
She hasn't been to that many museums unless it's field
trips that much. I don't travel that much out of work.
I do one or two trips a year with her,
which to me is substantial. We go to Europe, but
my friend's kids are older, so they're empty nesters. They're
in Saudi Arabia, they're in Doha, they're on Safari, like
(05:24):
I go to La I go to Paris for fashion week,
like I. You know, we beat ourselves up in a
million different ways. But I'm just saying that they're not
supposed to live the exact same life that we lived,
and we're not gonna make it perfect. We do the
best we can. I'm very glad that she self regulates
because I'm not good at that either. I'm not good
at a lot like I'm a good parent. I structure,
I'm strict, I'm on the case. I have a good, beautiful, sweet, kind, smart,
(05:50):
compassionate child, but I have many areas where.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I can improve.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
VICKI gumbleson years ago in the house. So I talked
about her love tank being empty in her relationship. It
can happen in relationships that are romantic. Let me tell
you something. Your car and your engine are stripped and
you feel gross and disgusting and like you have a
jaloppy dirt bag car when your love tank with your
(06:31):
kids is not full, it's really the worst. So I've
been doing a bit of business travel. Now I do
a couple of days and then I come home for
giant stretches, and it's like on paper, I'm gonna be
with my daughter the whole time. We're gonna have all
this meaningful time. And when I'm away from her, I starve,
Like I just crave being back and like having just
moments in between her doing homework or like just hugging,
(06:52):
or just a car ride where we're laughing, or we
go to get popsicles, or the sit down dinner, which
is so critical and there have been books written about
the sit down I'm dinner with your family, which I
need to be way better at because she's coming home
from a practice or studying and she wants to order
into this and then it's like more transactional and it's
not as like substantial. When I cook them and I
like really plan a meal and we sit down and
(07:14):
it's plated nicely and we sit down together. She'll always say,
how was your day, And it's so cute because like
that's meaningful. But like we had Thanksgiving coming, I had
been away and then she said, can I go away
to New York to see my friends, and I had
someone go with her because I had just gotten off
a plane and I just needed to be home for
my mental and physical health, and she wanted to go
to New York. So I allowed her and treated her
(07:35):
to go to New York for two days. But then
it meant days we weren't together, and I also secretly
liked it because it meant some day as I could breathe.
But then she got back and I had like a
friend around, and then she had work to do, and like,
we still weren't vibing. And then it was before Thanksgiving
and something went off with the two of us. Something
went a little bit off, and then it permeated into Thanksgiving,
so it wasn't like a connected day, and Thanksgiving isn't
(07:58):
really a connected day anyway, because you're cooking, you're driving,
you're planning, you're getting dressed, you're transacting, and there's a
lot going on, and that's not what I mean by
meaningful connection. So my tank got even more depleted. And
then my daughter had a friend come visit. This was
the Thanksgiving break, so then she wanted to see her
absolute best friend, which I want for her because you're
only as happy as your least happy kid. And I
(08:19):
don't care if she's mad at me as much as like,
I want her happy with her friend. So she left
her best friend in Connecticut, so now she's with her friend.
And it was still a little snippy. And then Sunday
came and we both it's not just me to get starving,
it's her too, and we both were starving for it,
and she said, Mama, can we just stay around all
day in pajamas and watch movies?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And we watched a show all day.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
In pajamas and snuggle with her head on my chest,
and then I made a really beautiful dinner for the
two of us. It was like scallops and brown rice,
and it was so nice to sit down together and
then get back in bed and then watch our favorite
holiday movie, which is The Family Stone Holds Up.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It is decades old.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Diane Keaton rest in Peace is in it, Sarah Jessica
Parker is in it. It is amazing, meaningful, not kitchy deep,
but also has very moments of light Christmas movies. And
we watched it because we're big on rituals and traditions.
And I was so fed that she came home from
school yesterday and on Monday was like, MoMA, can I
get into bed and can we watch because she.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Like craved it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We both did and we were so cute with each other,
and like it was so nice that it was the
day before she went right back to school because it
kind of made up for the whole week of not
being fed and my tank being empty. And I just
want to say, find the meaning, convey the need, and
like it's not a group activity, it's not a dinner
with all your kids, like with each kid.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's harder for you.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Guys if you have more find the meaningful tank filling time,
because it's so incredible and it's so important during the holidays,
and it's so important during the teen years because they're
emotional and hormonal and people have mental health struggles and
things like that. So I just need you, guys to
fill the tank, like please do it for me and
(10:06):
for you and for them.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It just heals me. It heals me to the core.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I'm so happy because I am going away on
a secret mission that is supermodel secret that I can't
share with you, And like I was going to go
away for a couple more days because it's in a
beautiful exotic location, or you're flying all the way there
just for a shoot.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't care about all the money. I'm going there
to do a work and I just I don't want
to leave my daughter. I want to be back and
like I want my tank perpetually full right now, I'm
like craving it I am going on a trip. It
is also more unrelatable content. I can afford to fly private,
and I rarely do not rarely, but I don't always
(10:49):
do it because I do feel it's wasteful.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It has to be something that means something with a group.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And sometimes I'm flying for work and it's exhausting and
I have to do it quick turnaround and there are
a lot of people with me, or I have to
carry a lot of shit, or it's a hard to
get to place, and then I'm exhausted and I don't
want to even do the thing I went there for.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And then I don't want to work anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And I say to myself, like I can afford it,
and it's lavish, but like, why don't I fly private?
Because sometimes I like count up how much it actually costs,
and it's wasteful and like the fuel, and like I
always say, I can never break the seal, Like can't
I just become that person that's like, you know, successful,
Because people will be like, why do you want Spirit
Airlines once in a while. Why because it's got the
fastest route sometimes two different places. And why am I
(11:32):
on Jet Blue sometimes? Why because sometimes I'll take a
whole row for Britta and I And because it's convenient
and they have good snacks, and because they have a
good lay down Jet Blue Mint. And people just have
all these judgments and I don't really care because I
will fly commercial all the time and have done it
so many times for relief work. Again, not relatable, but
I'm getting somewhere because it could be meaningful in your
own way. It could be about the mini bar, it
(11:52):
could be about the hotel expense, it could be about
the sweater, it could be about whatever it is for you,
you know, going out to a restaurant, whatever your version
of a spurge that you can afford. Is. So I
have this amazing supermodel experience and I'm going on this
incredible trip that is impossible to get to and it's
gonna be hours and hours to get there like well
over ten hours versus you know, under five maybe, And
(12:16):
I said like, because I kept saying, why don't you
break the seal? And one time I broke the seal
because we couldn't get out of Aspen and it was
like a snow issue. And I was like, Brin, I'm
doing this treat for the two of us and we're
gonna enjoy it and celebrate it. And I will say
it felt like a crazy treat, like it didn't feel
like an entitled, snobby celebrity vibes. It was like, wait,
look at us, and look how hard Mommy worked and
(12:36):
I worked so hard, and look what we can do
for ourselves. And it was like a little inspiring between us.
It was inspired. It was like, wait, I don't need
a man, and you know I could do this for
ourselves and it had meaning. And the boat when I
did that with her, which I included you guys in
the journey, felt the same too. It didn't wasn't wastebault.
It wasn't I was spoiled. It was on a work trip.
I maximized it because I was working and utilized it
(12:57):
for a work event. And then it was us getting
to have the freedom to go from that work event
in one location to another. Because of the boat. It
was meaningful connection. It was privacy when sometimes I get bothered.
It was not about the lap of luxury. It was
about the freedom to jump in and bond with her
and do all the sports all day, versus just being
transactional in a hotel. So again it's not relatable, but
(13:19):
you find your own version of this, but it had
greater meaning. And I broke the seal and then I
had this place that I'm going to which is so
incredibly hard to get to, and I was like, wait,
this is when you spurge and spend the money. This
is when you do it right. And I'm doing it right,
and I'm gonna make an experience.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I'll probably get kevi arm and bring interesting food on
and have fun with it, and I'm going to document
the whole experience for my business trip.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So it is still business.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And it became a good reason because it combined all
things that I need.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So that's what I think.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's what I'm doing, and that's the story.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Most to do the faster, faster, most the past
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Want to do to the faster
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