February 2, 2023 • 9 mins
Bethenny’s take on Britney Spears and what Gwen Stefani, Justin Bieber, Mariah Carey, Amanda Bynes have to do with it.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So I've never been acutely aware of Britney spears, her career,
what's going on with her, the free Britney stuff, any
more than just a person who just sees headlines, like
some of you really are rabbit and know it. And
it's funny the different stories at different people pick up on.
It might have to do with the time in their
lives that that person was famous. I might have to
(00:33):
do with age or style of music or movies or
whatever someone does. For example, Gwen Stefani, like, she's not
on my radar. She's around my age, I think, but
I've never really clicked with what she's doing or done.
I she's beautiful and it seems very talented, but it's
just never been something that's been on my radar. And
(00:54):
while I think Beyonce is an absolute queen beyond, I
think I'm more aware of what goes on with Rihanna
and I. It's not an age thing. I just I
don't know why. So it's interesting how we just certain
people just intrigue us. Maria I don't know a lot about,
but I'm just always thinking about her and find her fascinating.
I'm not always thinking about her, I don't know why
I said that. I just mean, like, I'll read something
(01:15):
about her. I find her interesting and fascinating. Um, okay,
So Britney Spear has never really been a person that
knows any more than anyone reading the headlines. But we
don't know what goes on with someone because we're just
reading headlines. So she has the incident with the shaved
head and the drink and the paparazzi, and you know,
my opinion at the time was like, that must be
(01:38):
so crazy, the paparazzi and living a life uh in
front of the cameras, And I mean, it could drive
anyone crazy. So it either young fame could drive someone crazy.
Think about Michael Jackson. I think about Justin bieber when
he had a crazy phase, in a destructive phase. I
just think that young fame is something that is extremely
dangerous and impossible for someone to imagine, and for a
(02:00):
young kid who can't process logic about how to handle it,
much less an adult who could handle that, which many can't.
I just think it's a laugh for for young kids.
So Brittany grew up in the Mickey Mouse Club and
in a relationship with Justin timber Lake, and she's been
famous most of her life. So she goes through this
divorcedness custody battle, and then you know, it becomes very
(02:20):
public for all of us, this conservatorship, and people are
listening to messages she's sending and thinking that she's sending
cries for help and team her and not her father,
and we're thinking about stage dads and people that steal
kids money and um. Then she's got a sister who
was really famous for a time but kind of dissolved
(02:41):
into the background a little bit, and what does she think?
And she sometimes seems team parents, and it all seems like,
how could we possibly know? But everybody got very free Brittany.
And you know it's funny because if you had said
something terrible at Harvey Weinstein years ago, you would have
been slow. And then Harvey Weinstein became a criminal and
(03:02):
Matt Lower was beloved and then what happened to him,
And then you know, Ellen went through a ship storm,
and because Fatiguan went through shipp storm, and everybody has
ebbs and flows where if you said something about somebody
that wasn't popular at the wrong time, you know you'd
get killed. So it's just it's very very trendy and
(03:22):
fluid when you're allowed to think something and say something.
And I remember when this whole free Brittany thing was
coming out, me thinking this sounds very cult like and
very extreme, that she would be in this conservator ship
that is so extreme, and that the public is now
(03:42):
saying free Brittany. She's an adult and someone's controlled her
money and she's doing all this publicly and talking about it,
and everyone's feeling compassion, And I actually did, because it
seems suffocating and debilitating and like she was in some
sort of a prison and trapped. But I also and
I also when she yelled at her kids, like who cared?
And he was trying to leak that, And I've been
through things like that myself, so I was thinking, big deal,
(04:05):
she got crazy with her kids. And listen, a lot
of celebrities are a little bit you know cookie, let's
just say um. But I do remember thinking, I do
really really remember thinking like, how many shades of great
is this? Like? If she was that extreme at she
(04:26):
had a conservatorship that a judge put on her, there
must be some pretty compelling evidence to have that happen.
And by no means do I know or sit in
any kind of judgment. I just remember thinking that and
then recently, and it's truthfully, people like Perez Hilton and
to report on it, you know, just in my periphery
(04:47):
on social media, I'll see these these these posts that
she does with these free association of thought, and in
looking at her wedding and some of those videos with
Drew Barrymore and Paris and everybody else, it seemed a
little chaotic, a little messy. It just seems little disorganized
over there. It seems a little messy, and you never know.
I mean, there are people that are so you don't
(05:10):
even know how messy it is privately. I mean I've
heard so many assistance and publicists and things like say,
it's it's it's insane what goes on over there, not
there there, but I mean in general, so who can
possibly know? But it definitely seems like if you put
all the ingredients together, something's off overall. Like something's definitely
(05:32):
very very off overall. And you know, celebrities are beloved
and famous. Think about Amanda bind She was like America's
Girl and all those young movies, and then she went
nuts like and I don't mean that I'm not. I'm
not making fun of mental illness, or so maybe I
said that in to cross Away, like she had severe
(05:54):
mental and emotional problems. And when you're a famous person
and you have a lot of money and people are
owing anything you want at you, you can kind of
act out. And I heard Whitney use Houston on an
interview recently saying that she wasn't thinking about if she
was doing too much drugs or if she was saying
(06:14):
if she was okay. She had everything thrown at her
and she just had money and there's nothing to worry about.
You could do whatever you want. There's no there are
no guardrails, and it seems like Britney doesn't have any
guard rails and a lot of these people are living
every thought and emotion through captions and it must be
maddening because if everybody likes it, then they're happy, and
(06:36):
if everybody doesn't like it's like another cousin of fame.
Social media is fame, but in a different vehicle. It's
a different You're not a concert pianist, you're not on
you're not you're not in the theater on Broadway, you're
not in a movie, you're not in a television show.
You're not a stand up comedian now. Your your stage
is social media, and so you could say this crazy
(06:56):
shouldn't get this attention immediately, Like you have to wagh
for a movie to be edited or a TV show
to air, and you have to wait live plus three
et cetera of the DVR and everything to get the ratings.
With social media, you get the ratings immediately. So you
could post fifty things a day and get the ratings immediately.
And that's psychotic and addictive and all kinds of fucking crazy,
(07:20):
you know. I mean, the case have built the whole
life and business on it. You know, let's put this
add up right now, and we know exactly five minutes
later how much product were we sold or an hour
later if we sold out. Like, it's just a different
world now. So Britney Spears was the vehicle through which
to make me think that, because she posts some crazy
(07:42):
stuff and then she deletes it and people laugh at it.
But it's it is it funny? I mean if she
said that stuff in an interview, it wouldn't be okay.
So I don't know, it's just a crazy, crazy, crazy world.
And it's also immediate and it's instant gratification, and there's
there's no control. Someone can control when the TV show
(08:02):
goes up and when the movie goes up, and when
the persons on stage and did they hydrate enough and
did they put the honey in their throat and all
of that stuff. But just to be going on stage
every ten, ten times a day if you want, or
every day saying something, taking it down, putting it up,
like do they like me? Did they not answering in
the comments. It's immediate gratification. It's crazy. Think about it.
(08:36):
Let's talk about click bait and cloud chasing. These are
terms that are thrown around, particularly on places like TikTok,
where people are talking about that you tag someone or
you do something trendy because you're looking for views. What
are people doing on TikTok or people on TikTok because
it's a charitable action, it's it's philanthropy. People are opening
(08:59):
air as boxes and showing you what they got at
Zara and and and doing their makeup tutorials and get
readies with me and dances because there it's for charity.
It's it's it's a work project. Or they're trying to
get people to view their videos. So anyone who says
or accuses somebody else of talking about something in particular
(09:21):
because they're chasing cloud or click baiting is an insecure loser.
Is someone who's jealous because they're just annoyed that it
may be working for you and it's not working for them.
So if you're not a monk living in a monastery
that doesn't have social media, uh, then then then really
you're not in a position to be talking about clickbait
(09:42):
or cloud chasing. I just find that so funny. Um.
I love when people sort of jealousy shines right through
So I've never been acutely aware of Britney spears, her career,
what's going on with her, the free Britney stuff, any
more than just a person who just sees headlines, like
some of you really are rabbit and know it. And
it's funny the different stories at different people pick up on.
It might have to do with the time in their
lives that that person was famous. I might have to
(00:33):
do with age or style of music or movies or
whatever someone does. For example, Gwen Stefani, like, she's not
on my radar. She's around my age, I think, but
I've never really clicked with what she's doing or done.
I she's beautiful and it seems very talented, but it's
just never been something that's been on my radar. And
(00:54):
while I think Beyonce is an absolute queen beyond, I
think I'm more aware of what goes on with Rihanna
and I. It's not an age thing. I just I
don't know why. So it's interesting how we just certain
people just intrigue us. Maria I don't know a lot about,
but I'm just always thinking about her and find her fascinating.
I'm not always thinking about her, I don't know why
I said that. I just mean, like, I'll read something
(01:15):
about her. I find her interesting and fascinating. Um, okay,
So Britney Spear has never really been a person that
knows any more than anyone reading the headlines. But we
don't know what goes on with someone because we're just
reading headlines. So she has the incident with the shaved
head and the drink and the paparazzi, and you know,
my opinion at the time was like, that must be
(01:38):
so crazy, the paparazzi and living a life uh in
front of the cameras, And I mean, it could drive
anyone crazy. So it either young fame could drive someone crazy.
Think about Michael Jackson. I think about Justin bieber when
he had a crazy phase, in a destructive phase. I
just think that young fame is something that is extremely
dangerous and impossible for someone to imagine, and for a
(02:00):
young kid who can't process logic about how to handle it,
much less an adult who could handle that, which many can't.
I just think it's a laugh for for young kids.
So Brittany grew up in the Mickey Mouse Club and
in a relationship with Justin timber Lake, and she's been
famous most of her life. So she goes through this
divorcedness custody battle, and then you know, it becomes very
(02:20):
public for all of us, this conservatorship, and people are
listening to messages she's sending and thinking that she's sending
cries for help and team her and not her father,
and we're thinking about stage dads and people that steal
kids money and um. Then she's got a sister who
was really famous for a time but kind of dissolved
(02:41):
into the background a little bit, and what does she think?
And she sometimes seems team parents, and it all seems like,
how could we possibly know? But everybody got very free Brittany.
And you know it's funny because if you had said
something terrible at Harvey Weinstein years ago, you would have
been slow. And then Harvey Weinstein became a criminal and
(03:02):
Matt Lower was beloved and then what happened to him,
And then you know, Ellen went through a ship storm,
and because Fatiguan went through shipp storm, and everybody has
ebbs and flows where if you said something about somebody
that wasn't popular at the wrong time, you know you'd
get killed. So it's just it's very very trendy and
(03:22):
fluid when you're allowed to think something and say something.
And I remember when this whole free Brittany thing was
coming out, me thinking this sounds very cult like and
very extreme, that she would be in this conservator ship
that is so extreme, and that the public is now
(03:42):
saying free Brittany. She's an adult and someone's controlled her
money and she's doing all this publicly and talking about it,
and everyone's feeling compassion, And I actually did, because it
seems suffocating and debilitating and like she was in some
sort of a prison and trapped. But I also and
I also when she yelled at her kids, like who cared?
And he was trying to leak that, And I've been
through things like that myself, so I was thinking, big deal,
(04:05):
she got crazy with her kids. And listen, a lot
of celebrities are a little bit you know cookie, let's
just say um. But I do remember thinking, I do
really really remember thinking like, how many shades of great
is this? Like? If she was that extreme at she
(04:26):
had a conservatorship that a judge put on her, there
must be some pretty compelling evidence to have that happen.
And by no means do I know or sit in
any kind of judgment. I just remember thinking that and
then recently, and it's truthfully, people like Perez Hilton and
to report on it, you know, just in my periphery
(04:47):
on social media, I'll see these these these posts that
she does with these free association of thought, and in
looking at her wedding and some of those videos with
Drew Barrymore and Paris and everybody else, it seemed a
little chaotic, a little messy. It just seems little disorganized
over there. It seems a little messy, and you never know.
I mean, there are people that are so you don't
(05:10):
even know how messy it is privately. I mean I've
heard so many assistance and publicists and things like say,
it's it's it's insane what goes on over there, not
there there, but I mean in general, so who can
possibly know? But it definitely seems like if you put
all the ingredients together, something's off overall. Like something's definitely
(05:32):
very very off overall. And you know, celebrities are beloved
and famous. Think about Amanda bind She was like America's
Girl and all those young movies, and then she went
nuts like and I don't mean that I'm not. I'm
not making fun of mental illness, or so maybe I
said that in to cross Away, like she had severe
(05:54):
mental and emotional problems. And when you're a famous person
and you have a lot of money and people are
owing anything you want at you, you can kind of
act out. And I heard Whitney use Houston on an
interview recently saying that she wasn't thinking about if she
was doing too much drugs or if she was saying
(06:14):
if she was okay. She had everything thrown at her
and she just had money and there's nothing to worry about.
You could do whatever you want. There's no there are
no guardrails, and it seems like Britney doesn't have any
guard rails and a lot of these people are living
every thought and emotion through captions and it must be
maddening because if everybody likes it, then they're happy, and
(06:36):
if everybody doesn't like it's like another cousin of fame.
Social media is fame, but in a different vehicle. It's
a different You're not a concert pianist, you're not on
you're not you're not in the theater on Broadway, you're
not in a movie, you're not in a television show.
You're not a stand up comedian now. Your your stage
is social media, and so you could say this crazy
(06:56):
shouldn't get this attention immediately, Like you have to wagh
for a movie to be edited or a TV show
to air, and you have to wait live plus three
et cetera of the DVR and everything to get the ratings.
With social media, you get the ratings immediately. So you
could post fifty things a day and get the ratings immediately.
And that's psychotic and addictive and all kinds of fucking crazy,
(07:20):
you know. I mean, the case have built the whole
life and business on it. You know, let's put this
add up right now, and we know exactly five minutes
later how much product were we sold or an hour
later if we sold out. Like, it's just a different
world now. So Britney Spears was the vehicle through which
to make me think that, because she posts some crazy
(07:42):
stuff and then she deletes it and people laugh at it.
But it's it is it funny? I mean if she
said that stuff in an interview, it wouldn't be okay.
So I don't know, it's just a crazy, crazy, crazy world.
And it's also immediate and it's instant gratification, and there's
there's no control. Someone can control when the TV show
(08:02):
goes up and when the movie goes up, and when
the persons on stage and did they hydrate enough and
did they put the honey in their throat and all
of that stuff. But just to be going on stage
every ten, ten times a day if you want, or
every day saying something, taking it down, putting it up,
like do they like me? Did they not answering in
the comments. It's immediate gratification. It's crazy. Think about it.
(08:36):
Let's talk about click bait and cloud chasing. These are
terms that are thrown around, particularly on places like TikTok,
where people are talking about that you tag someone or
you do something trendy because you're looking for views. What
are people doing on TikTok or people on TikTok because
it's a charitable action, it's it's philanthropy. People are opening
(08:59):
air as boxes and showing you what they got at
Zara and and and doing their makeup tutorials and get
readies with me and dances because there it's for charity.
It's it's it's a work project. Or they're trying to
get people to view their videos. So anyone who says
or accuses somebody else of talking about something in particular
(09:21):
because they're chasing cloud or click baiting is an insecure loser.
Is someone who's jealous because they're just annoyed that it
may be working for you and it's not working for them.
So if you're not a monk living in a monastery
that doesn't have social media, uh, then then then really
you're not in a position to be talking about clickbait
(09:42):
or cloud chasing. I just find that so funny. Um.
I love when people sort of jealousy shines right through
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Bethenny Frankel
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