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September 27, 2023 10 mins

Bethenny launches into the chaos caused by a chain of celebrity scandals. Who’s in, who’s out and why! 

Plus, are a couple of Hollywood's golden elite in trouble?!

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Lizzo needs to send Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas a
fruit basket. Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas need to send
Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher a muffin basket. Melakunis and
Ashton Kutcher need to send Drew Barrymore a caviar basket.

(00:36):
Drew Barrymore needs to send myself and Shannon Badour o
Maha Steak of the Month club because each time a
new celebrity gets in trouble or there's something to talk about,
the previous ones get a fucking relaxing ride like they

(00:56):
were just like, oh my god, thank God. It's like
there's a new carcass to go get ripped apart. The
maggots have gone over to a new carcass. So who
will be next? Oh, well, Russell brand is next. That's
a serious, very very serious offense. Jimmy Fallon needs to
send all of us, all of us an edible arrangement

(01:21):
made of precious gemstones, because all of us made his
scandal really nearly invisible. And Andy Cohen and Bravo also
should send all of us a bakery basket. But I
think they're gonna come around the bend. From what I understand,
there's more common that way. So I don't think they

(01:43):
should start writing their Christmas cards just yet. And everyone
I just mentioned needs to send Taylor Swift and Travis
Kelcey the Lobster and the Caviar are the month club
close the carnival, shut the rides. The prize has been
given out. Game over Mike dropped story in film at eleven.

(02:08):
Not only has the entire entertainment industry, the music industry,
the media and branding industry closed for the day, the
NFL is basically changing its name to the National Fan League,

(02:29):
that is National Taylors Swift Fan League. It's over. I mean,
she's got to be the goat. She's the Tom Brady
of music of girlfriends. I heard Paul, my fiance said
he was on Watch What Happens Live with Ramona and
then he used to be on a dating show talking

(02:49):
about fallen upstairs, talk about stocks soaring. I mean, I
think Taylor Swift has spiked this guy, Travis Kelsey stock,
more than Kim Kardashian spiked Chris Humphrey stock. I know

(03:10):
it's going to be controversial because men and women are
arguing saying that this guy is a major football player
and she didn't put him on the map, but that's
fake news. She put him on the map. She put
him on every single map. Okay, there was no map.
She wrote the map. She decided where all of the
geography was going to be located on the map, and
she decided to pick him up like a small toy

(03:34):
inside a qua machine at an arcade and put him
on the map. And I was on the map. So
football and music have intersected. Game over. Oprah and The

(04:02):
Rock got in trouble for their video about Hawaii. I
think them living there made it challenging because it was
a glaring reminder of what they have and what the
people don't have. It's such a juxtaposition. I think that
you can't see, touch, or feel their relief efforts, you

(04:23):
don't understand them. This also happened with Mila and Ashton,
by the way, with the Ukraine efforts. They had a
third party that they wanted everyone to donate to, and
they sat just like they do together in this video
and got a lot of people to donate to Ukraine.
And I'll tell you my partner Michael was like you
gotta find a way to get some of their money
because the guys that they're donating to, they're not controlling

(04:45):
the money. It's a third party. And I think he
said that those guys were tech guys. They're not guys
that have disaster relief experience. So it gets tricky when
you know that someone's don someone's asking you to donate,
and then millions come in and then you're donating somewhere else.
How can you control exactly where and how it's being distributed.
There needs to be transparency. It happened years ago with

(05:07):
a woman with the Australia fires where she raised a
ton of money and the money, some of it, I believe,
had to be refunded because it was all going to
this one place that can't accommodate that kind of money.
So just because you get a big gofund me going
and it's really public and it's great how much you've raised,
which is valiant and admirable, the hardest part is not

(05:30):
raising the money. That's just asking people for money. And
the more famous you are and the better your hashtag
is and the better your picture of a koala during
a fire is, the more money you'll raise. That's what
being famous is. The real challenge is where is the
money going? So the problem is that then Oprah and
The Rock they're wealthy, and so it looked like they
were asking other people to donate. And while they donated

(05:52):
I think ten million either together, I don't think separately.
I don't remember. It just seemed like a drop in
the bucket, and it was just something that hit wrong
about them asking others to donate. Which I'm wealthy and
I ask others to donate, so there's something about the
way that they do it. I'm not a billionaire, but
still that bothered people. And I believe it was like
this machine that you could go up to and it

(06:14):
just didn't feel like you could see it, touch it,
feel it, and it didn't feel like Oprah giving blankets
at shelters was landing in the same way as it
would have if you felt that she was really involved
and it was really transparent. I think that that was
glossed over. I think people were just mad because she's
rich and they're poor and they were asked to donate.

(06:35):
But I think there's more to it. I think that
people like when there's transparency, when you're saying Okay, this
is what we aim to raise. This is exactly what
we're doing with it. This is what we need it for.
This is what we're running up against. This is what
we're bumping up against. These are the challenges. This is
what they said at the embassy. This is what the
citizens are saying. This is how many people this much

(06:55):
money feeds. This is a crisis kit for a family
that has rice and solar power and a backpack and
school supplies. This is what happened. This is we weren't
able to do this, so we have to do something else.
This is exactly where it's going. And then people were
also investigating the five oh one C three where it
was going, and they were saying that people have six

(07:16):
figure salaries. Let's just get something straight. People at five
oh one C three's do often have salaries and sometimes
six figure salaries, and that's okay. You want them to
run a good five oh one C three, be strong.
One hundred percent goes to the effort, because I chose
that to be the model. That's what I said to
my five oh one C three partner when I partnered,

(07:39):
saying I can't have any gray area with my people
if they donate, they have to know it's one hundred percent.
But my partner's five oh one C three and he
has a salary. Because these people, whether it's Oprah's charity
or you know, a trusted charity. I'm sure there are
some charities. I've seen people staying at the same regis
at Hurricane Harvey, and it's not great. If I go
travel for relief, I pay for it myself. But what

(08:02):
I'm saying is they have salaries. They work like eighteen
hour days, and they work like six days a week,
and they don't really take vacations, and they really just
this is a life. So people that work in disaster relief,
this is their whole life. They dedicate their whole life.
And you want to look on I think it's there
are different ones that like rate charities, Charity Finder. There's
another one too. They're like there are ratings and they

(08:25):
look at these five oh one c threes and they
show you the percentage that goes actually to the effort,
and you know where that salary and overhead is. And
you know, if you have a very low percentage in overhead,
it's totally justifiable that somebody would have a salary and often,

(08:45):
like we have billionaire partners that will donate to be
strong some of their donations, and then they'll say, we're
donating some of our money to the five OHO one
C three because we know that, let's say ninety six percent,
not one hundred percent is going to the effort, but
we're okay with the four percent because we want we

(09:07):
know that they're running a business, like nobody can run
a business, even if it's a not for profit business,
without paying people, without having a nice building, without having
nice offices. And I think that that's a mistake for
people to just blindly judge a charity based on the
fact that people have a salary and they do incredible work.
They're not making millions of dollars. If they are, then
there's a problem and people have gotten caught. And by

(09:28):
the way, study your your charities. Look into where every
dollar goes. Look there are line items. You can see
all of it. And most of the big ones have
a lot of red tape, have a lot of overhead.
There's a lot of money. You're just you gotta you
gotta go chase the numbers, you gotta follow the money,
and you gotta look it up. But I just think

(09:51):
that all these things converged in the Oprah and Rock moment.
It just wasn't executed properly. It didn't land well. And
I'm sure they did have good intentions. It just there
was something about that that machine. There was something also
about the mob on TikTok. They're relentless, and it just
it was the execution. It wasn't the effort or the idea.

(10:14):
It just reminded people of the money they have and
the land they have. And it's the haves and the
have nots. It's the down navvy upstairs, downstairs really too
close for comfort that you're seeing that visual things have
the land that didn't
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