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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The reality reckoning?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
HM, why the reason is that I burned every bridge
at Bravo. All the opportunities there are gone. I wanted
to do multiple shows with them, and now I can't
riddle me this. What if I told you I make
so much more money since leaving Bravo than when I
(00:34):
was there, and I don't want to be there.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So if my podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Was heard by millions of people and the Real Housewives
is being watched by four hundred thousand people, where do
you think I want to be? So it doesn't matter
to me what people believe. It's comical. But I was
(01:02):
talking to Andy Cohen about a move where I was
living and what I was seeing, and he said it
would be a great show, and I agreed, and I
developed it and partnered with someone and cast it, and
then I decided I didn't want to do it. I
didn't want to be on Archaic Dinosaur TV.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I just didn't. Sorry, not sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And months before Andy had reached out to me saying,
is there a chance that I would want to come back?
And in fairness, many times I had dabbled with it
and thought about the number. What's the number? Would I
ever come back? But I decided that I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Want to go back. I just there was no number.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So we can make up fantasy blogs and posts and
videos to get clicks and go for yours enjoy because
the lovers and the haters alike. I'm grateful for all
of them. But the truth is, if we care about
the truth, the truth is I didn't want to be there.
(02:03):
I don't want to be there. I wouldn't burn this
bridge if I didn't know what I was doing. I
didn't want to be there. Also, I'm not leading the charge.
It's not my charge. I talked about unionization and compensation
for exploitation, for someone being completely exploited and im perpetuity,
(02:25):
and that unionization was necessary, and I even put out
a starting deal points. I know that that now has
become something because of all the people that came out
of the woodworks that warranted these gangster powerhouse lawyers that
don't just come out because Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And Donald Duck.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, well, actually Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck would
be very lucrative lawsuits. But because Joe and Blow come
out and complain, it's they have real cases. So they're
not my cases. They're not my lawsuits. Nobody seems to
care because all these bloggers don't know what they're talking about.
And it's funny and it's great and they're not educated.
And that's okay because they sell tickets to the show,
(03:10):
and they sell tickets to their own show, so they're
selling tickets to my show and their show and it's
all good.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But the charge is not mine.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The reality reckoning is mine, and I started it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I said it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was the first person to have the guts to
do it. So now everybody wants to jump on and
who cares? Okay, So separately, Rachel and I are really happy.
And if and when and how she was paid and
if and when and how we want to tell you.
Believe me, we'll tell you. But there's an answer for everything.
(03:47):
And there are many theories going on around the internet,
and ninety nine point nine percent of them are wrong.
The people are hilarious who have like their calculators out
and are putting up these spreadsheets to get clicks. I
don't have any idea about the money at all. I
make millions of dollars to do my podcast, whether Rachel
comes on or not, So that's just the facts. Those
(04:08):
are the deals that I make That's why I don't
want to be on reality television because I just don't
want to. I don't need to, and I'm not going to.
So I like content to the people. I like YouTube,
I like iHeart, I like that I could just pull
up and talk about something anytime I want, like right now.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So the numbers that people are throwing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Out are not only wrong and grossly low, they're just
not applicable because I make a lot of money and
I have a guarantee no matter what if I sit there,
nobody comes on. So but people around me are very happy,
including Rachel and one small creator got somewhat close to
(04:52):
what's actually going on. But all the big ones, the
big mouths, running off their mouths, trying to get clicks
because they cannot keep my name out of their mouth.
It makes me so happy. They hate me so much
that they can't stop talking about me. They're the ones
who are way off. Everything they're saying is off.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
They just are. And many of them have asked me
to be on.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Their podcasts and to be online, and they're just desperadoes.
But they sell tickets to their own shows and mine.
So all boats rise with the tide Go Baby, go,
We're here for you. Oh and I'm supposed to have
(05:33):
watched all the seasons of vander Pump Rules. Neither Rachel
nor myself wanted this interview to be about a show
that does not reflect most of her life. We wanted
this to be a show about a woman who had
an experience, had a certain trajectory, and where she is now.
(05:53):
So you guys, go do that, talk about it amongst yourselves.
Watch every single episode. I watched them at ten EPs episodes,
which is more than I would for anyone else because
I don't need to watch one hundred and twenty episodes.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
This isn't a.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Rewatch podcast of vander Barn Brules. This was a conversation
with one woman. I know it's hard, but try to understand.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand
it for you. So Rachel and I are very happy,
and iHeart is very happy. So if you're not happy,
talk about it to your therapist. Don't worry about us.
(06:38):
So Lala has entered the chat. I saw a clip
that someone posted from her podcast, and I don't blame
the cast for getting involved. They are the paid soldiers,
they are the unsullied that have to fight the fight,
and they are the shiniest gems in the crown of
(07:02):
Bravo's royal empire right now, and Bravo needs to pump
as much through the machine as they possibly can because
they are under siege. They have powerhouse lawyers with actual
talent and production that have legitimate claims against Bravo. Those
two Barrakudahs don't get involved unless there's something there, So
(07:24):
the only arsenal the Bravo has is their paid talent
to go out and pump this propaganda through the machine.
So bring it, you know. I love the love, I
love the hate. Only the strong survive, so the numbers
don't lie. The people have listened. The haters are hating,
(07:46):
the lovers are loving and supporting Rachel and I are happy.
There is a lot you don't know. There is probably
I don't know fifty percent of a story that you
don't know, and more to come, more to come, So
keep listening, keep talking, we love it, and watch what happens.
(08:16):
I acknowledge and own my place and reality TV the
things that I've said, the things that I've done, And
there are no talent being sued because they're doing their jobs.
Reality talent is paid to create ratings, to start arguments,
to do things that are out of character, to create
(08:40):
massive drama and water cooler sensations. And they don't do
things that people normally do. Otherwise you wouldn't need to
watch TV for it. It's produced. So I left twice
because I didn't want to be that example for my daughter.
I didn't want to be doing and saying the things
that you have to do and say to be on
(09:01):
reality television. It's produced, it's designed for ratings. I don't
think that Teresa is going to flip a table tonight
any more than I think that Aviva is going to
throw her leg anymore than I think that I'm going
to call Luan a name. It's reality television, and it's
designed to be rewarded for bad behavior. And that is
(09:22):
the reality reckoning. And why all of a sudden is
everybody so concerned for Rachel and her exploitation.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It feels like it's three months too late. She went into.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
An emotional health facility, so it feels like three months
ago would have been the time she's healthy and thriving.
Now you're worried about her emotional well being. Sell your
bullshit somewhere else,
The reality reckoning?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
HM, why the reason is that I burned every bridge
at Bravo. All the opportunities there are gone. I wanted
to do multiple shows with them, and now I can't
riddle me this. What if I told you I make
so much more money since leaving Bravo than when I
(00:34):
was there, and I don't want to be there.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So if my podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Was heard by millions of people and the Real Housewives
is being watched by four hundred thousand people, where do
you think I want to be? So it doesn't matter
to me what people believe. It's comical. But I was
(01:02):
talking to Andy Cohen about a move where I was
living and what I was seeing, and he said it
would be a great show, and I agreed, and I
developed it and partnered with someone and cast it, and
then I decided I didn't want to do it. I
didn't want to be on Archaic Dinosaur TV.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I just didn't. Sorry, not sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And months before Andy had reached out to me saying,
is there a chance that I would want to come back?
And in fairness, many times I had dabbled with it
and thought about the number. What's the number? Would I
ever come back? But I decided that I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Want to go back. I just there was no number.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So we can make up fantasy blogs and posts and
videos to get clicks and go for yours enjoy because
the lovers and the haters alike. I'm grateful for all
of them. But the truth is, if we care about
the truth, the truth is I didn't want to be there.
(02:03):
I don't want to be there. I wouldn't burn this
bridge if I didn't know what I was doing. I
didn't want to be there. Also, I'm not leading the charge.
It's not my charge. I talked about unionization and compensation
for exploitation, for someone being completely exploited and im perpetuity,
(02:25):
and that unionization was necessary, and I even put out
a starting deal points. I know that that now has
become something because of all the people that came out
of the woodworks that warranted these gangster powerhouse lawyers that
don't just come out because Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And Donald Duck.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, well, actually Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck would
be very lucrative lawsuits. But because Joe and Blow come
out and complain, it's they have real cases. So they're
not my cases. They're not my lawsuits. Nobody seems to
care because all these bloggers don't know what they're talking about.
And it's funny and it's great and they're not educated.
And that's okay because they sell tickets to the show,
(03:10):
and they sell tickets to their own show, so they're
selling tickets to my show and their show and it's
all good.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But the charge is not mine.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The reality reckoning is mine, and I started it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I said it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was the first person to have the guts to
do it. So now everybody wants to jump on and
who cares? Okay, So separately, Rachel and I are really happy.
And if and when and how she was paid and
if and when and how we want to tell you.
Believe me, we'll tell you. But there's an answer for everything.
(03:47):
And there are many theories going on around the internet,
and ninety nine point nine percent of them are wrong.
The people are hilarious who have like their calculators out
and are putting up these spreadsheets to get clicks. I
don't have any idea about the money at all. I
make millions of dollars to do my podcast, whether Rachel
comes on or not, So that's just the facts. Those
(04:08):
are the deals that I make That's why I don't
want to be on reality television because I just don't
want to. I don't need to, and I'm not going to.
So I like content to the people. I like YouTube,
I like iHeart, I like that I could just pull
up and talk about something anytime I want, like right now.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So the numbers that people are throwing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Out are not only wrong and grossly low, they're just
not applicable because I make a lot of money and
I have a guarantee no matter what if I sit there,
nobody comes on. So but people around me are very happy,
including Rachel and one small creator got somewhat close to
(04:52):
what's actually going on. But all the big ones, the
big mouths, running off their mouths, trying to get clicks
because they cannot keep my name out of their mouth.
It makes me so happy. They hate me so much
that they can't stop talking about me. They're the ones
who are way off. Everything they're saying is off.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
They just are. And many of them have asked me
to be on.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Their podcasts and to be online, and they're just desperadoes.
But they sell tickets to their own shows and mine.
So all boats rise with the tide Go Baby, go,
We're here for you. Oh and I'm supposed to have
(05:33):
watched all the seasons of vander Pump Rules. Neither Rachel
nor myself wanted this interview to be about a show
that does not reflect most of her life. We wanted
this to be a show about a woman who had
an experience, had a certain trajectory, and where she is now.
(05:53):
So you guys, go do that, talk about it amongst yourselves.
Watch every single episode. I watched them at ten EPs episodes,
which is more than I would for anyone else because
I don't need to watch one hundred and twenty episodes.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
This isn't a.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Rewatch podcast of vander Barn Brules. This was a conversation
with one woman. I know it's hard, but try to understand.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand
it for you. So Rachel and I are very happy,
and iHeart is very happy. So if you're not happy,
talk about it to your therapist. Don't worry about us.
(06:38):
So Lala has entered the chat. I saw a clip
that someone posted from her podcast, and I don't blame
the cast for getting involved. They are the paid soldiers,
they are the unsullied that have to fight the fight,
and they are the shiniest gems in the crown of
(07:02):
Bravo's royal empire right now, and Bravo needs to pump
as much through the machine as they possibly can because
they are under siege. They have powerhouse lawyers with actual
talent and production that have legitimate claims against Bravo. Those
two Barrakudahs don't get involved unless there's something there, So
(07:24):
the only arsenal the Bravo has is their paid talent
to go out and pump this propaganda through the machine.
So bring it, you know. I love the love, I
love the hate. Only the strong survive, so the numbers
don't lie. The people have listened. The haters are hating,
(07:46):
the lovers are loving and supporting Rachel and I are happy.
There is a lot you don't know. There is probably
I don't know fifty percent of a story that you
don't know, and more to come, more to come, So
keep listening, keep talking, we love it, and watch what happens.
(08:16):
I acknowledge and own my place and reality TV the
things that I've said, the things that I've done, And
there are no talent being sued because they're doing their jobs.
Reality talent is paid to create ratings, to start arguments,
to do things that are out of character, to create
(08:40):
massive drama and water cooler sensations. And they don't do
things that people normally do. Otherwise you wouldn't need to
watch TV for it. It's produced. So I left twice
because I didn't want to be that example for my daughter.
I didn't want to be doing and saying the things
that you have to do and say to be on
(09:01):
reality television. It's produced, it's designed for ratings. I don't
think that Teresa is going to flip a table tonight
any more than I think that Aviva is going to
throw her leg anymore than I think that I'm going
to call Luan a name. It's reality television, and it's
designed to be rewarded for bad behavior. And that is
(09:22):
the reality reckoning. And why all of a sudden is
everybody so concerned for Rachel and her exploitation.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It feels like it's three months too late. She went into.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
An emotional health facility, so it feels like three months
ago would have been the time she's healthy and thriving.
Now you're worried about her emotional well being. Sell your
bullshit somewhere else,
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