May 7, 2025 • 19 mins
I'm moving! It's bittersweet.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm moving. I'm moving, and a lot of people have moved.
I'm not the only person who ever moved. I have resources, etc.
But the impetus of the move is immediate. I am
a person at the minute. There's like a disaster. And
that's why I can like activate and get into high
gear and move mountains and raise tens of millions of dollars. Okay,
(00:32):
but the problem is, I'm good for it. It's not
good for me. Is to produce events. I was good
for it, it wasn't good for me. I can't leave
one detail undetailed. I can't know it's not all finished.
I lay down to sleep in a place. Everyone around
me has to understand that there is not a fucking
corn husk prong thing in it. To eat corn if
(00:55):
you want to like meaning, it has to be a
fully stocked universe and everything has to be perfect. And
it's a problem. And I'm not saying it's good. It's
not changing. We are fucking too far into this thing.
We are the horses left the barn. We are pot committed,
and we just that toothpaste is not going back in
that fucking tube.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So wah.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was in a relationship and I mean fucking hi.
I was born at Long Island, Jewish in Queens, nearby
stake Charlie's near the tennis stadium. Wow, there's a lot
to say. I could tell you my whole life story.
One day, I'll tell you why I'm not Jewish, not Catholic,
not anything. My whole life is just being Ish. But
here we are in this discussion, and I will tell
you that I left the Housewives, was in a relationship,
(01:39):
was in the sick sick apartment in New York City
in Soho. The pandemic hit and that six sick apartment
in Soho became less desirable at that time. So I
ended up migrating out to the Hamptons. Don't forget, I
have a daughter and did never all the time, ended
up the pandemic, ended up cracking open something crazy and
saving my life. And I just ended up in a
(02:02):
different place than when the pandemic started, as it pertains
to my daughter. And so I was in a relationship
and it was long distance, but long close distance, which
is almost worse than long long distance, because long close
distance isn't that sexy, and like it's the travel isn't sexy,
and you're just sort of like trying to figure it out.
But it's still almost the same effort as getting on
a plane to go somewhere like far distance, and it
(02:25):
just it wasn't very ideal. And so as a dumb
idea in fantasy lamb when we thought like find a
place halfway or equidistant or close or whatever. I ended
up moving to the suburbs during the pandemic. And what's
funny is certainly my personal well being and health and
love is more important than money. But by making this
(02:46):
move to the suburbs and going out to Connecticut, I
can say it now because I'm moving and it's no
longer security risk. I ended up flipping three houses and
making millions and millions of dollars in Connecticut, including the
house that I bought. I am very good at real estate.
Touching story, it doesn't matter. But I ended up moving
to the suburbs and moving to Connecticut, to an area
called Greenwich that is beautiful. It is then I'm gonna
(03:09):
say this as I leave Greenwich in my house that
I sold and made a big profit, rockets to the
to the fucking to Saturn because of this sentence. But
I'm gonna say this. Greenwich is probably the nicest town
in the United States of America. And I mean I've
been Aspen and Palm Beach and Beverly Hills and bel Air,
et cetera. Like Greenwich is not even a town. It's big,
(03:29):
but it's like horses and property and old gorgeous stone
walls that go on forever and gates and honestly, in
the movies, it's like portrayed like Palm Beach, and there's
an allure to it because of the name. It's actually
pretty fucking chill. It's not like that, like there are
people and there assholes everywhere, but it's like very nondescript,
(03:50):
like Palm Beach is like dress in pastels. You're in
a costume party every day, Like you're in the costume party,
costplaying yourself, and you have of a billion dollars and
you actually feel like you're a loser because you don't
have five billion dollars. Like people are warped there, people
are insane. It's a big flex and it's a big
flex of a place that people pretend that they don't
(04:13):
care about their like they play like it doesn't matter.
Money is the main thing that matters, and Greenwich is
not like that. Okay, Aspen's like that, but it's also
not like that. Aspen is highs and lows like down
like Aspens, like the ski operators hanging out at like
a tech billionaire's house. So it's got the texture, and
Miami has that too. Miami can be like cheesy European
(04:36):
South American international Dubai asshole, douchebag, flashy watch, tight black
T shirt, but also like chic Argentine woman with her
hair slicked back like a band of sole ad, et cetera.
Palm Beach has one note. It's called money. It's gonna
be the longest story in history. I'm not even getting
(04:57):
close to it, so anyway, I And also like Nantucket
is different. Nantucket's a little more like Aspen. Like you
have like like probably fishermen, but like also like billionaires
and like you know, you've got Dave Portnoy, like degenerate
gambling in his basement and like the rich wasp bos
from Palm Beach don't want him there, but he like
probably gets along with some of the local people and
(05:19):
like Boston people, they get off the ferry and like
it's a mixed bag. It's just different. Okay, pom Beach
doesn't really have a lot of lows. They export them
at the end of the day of five o'clock, after
the work's done. Okay, So I moved to Greenwich, and
(05:42):
I think Greenwich is one of the nicest places in America,
if not the it's just it's and also there's horses,
and there is water and boating and you know, assholes
and nice people. But there are like middle class people
and Greenwich of people don't know about and it's bigger
than people think. And I liked it. But I'm not
from here and I'm not really from anywhere. But I
don't have any connection and it's almost like you're playing
(06:05):
double Dutch.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You're trying to like jump in.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And I could have any connection I want because I
have access and I know people, and the few people
that I do know here, every single one of them
is like a name brand person. But I'm not, like
I only have two really good friends here, a couple here,
and like other than that, I'm not gonna just like
start hanging out with people because I know them and
because they're like name brand people.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's just not my personality. I like my people.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I like the Hamptons, which also is extremely highs and
lows too. It's extremely they call it bonic, which is
like locals and fishermen and watermen and ocean rescue. And
then also yes, there are billionaires that are like in
Sagaponic and run major hedge funds and everything in between. Honestly,
there's like a lot going on there too. But like
(06:52):
I know the Hamptons, I've been going there since I'm twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I feel comfortable there, and there's a vibe there that,
even in January when it's freezing, like you feel like
you're on some version of a vacation. And Granwich is
more like where you live. And I just didn't really immerse,
and I just like, I'm familiar with the place I'm
familiar with, and I love them. In addition, in flipping
these houses, I ended up in this massive house, a compound,
(07:19):
and it was a reaction to the first house I
was in, which was a good, substantial house. But because
of my business and because of this podcast, and because
of the studio, and because of the shooting, and because
you know, shooting social media shit, and because of people.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Being around, I want people around. I need people around.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But I don't actually want them around, so I need
different spaces. And the place I ended up in had
like a separate structure, which is like great, this would
be a we work, which it became we call. It's
literally called the we Work. This entertainment bar and this separate,
separate structure that I created out of like a wood shop.
These are all the things I do also to create value.
The work was a shed. The entertainment barn is a
(08:03):
shit like place where rakes were. But I'm very good
at envisioning what things can be. That's just like my
that's my gift in life, knowing seeing something and being
able to see something nobody else sees.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I'm really good at that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's why I've been exceptional at personal real estate, and
like the numbers are all live, I've done extremely well.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So the entertainment barn.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
In britn and the movie screen in the bar, and
I create all these fantasies that like don't end up
happening for me. You know, this amazing gorgeous dining room
in this landmark property that's from seventeen forty three, and
it's historical and has original beams. So we're gonna take
the original beams that I found in the attic, and
we're going to put them under the stove, you know,
the top of the stove and the ceiling of the
(08:45):
kitchen and like all this vision right, and you don't
know how you're actually gonna live. And like this gorgeous
dining room that is original seventeen forty three, this has
those only twenty people that have ever lived here.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's a landmark property. The governor lived.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Here, and this relationship that I'm in, but like then
everybody gets deal fatigue, and like I don't want to
go there, and they don't want to come here, and
like kids have their own activities and they're doing their
own things on the weekend. So it's not the thing
where you like took this house because you like thought
everyone was gonna be frozen in time and live in
the same house together, and like it never happened, and
(09:19):
I never I did one. The only dinner I've ever
done in that dining room was my team for like
takeout Italian and my daughter and I Christmas Eve, and
like it was beautiful that we did it, but it
also felt sad. Like I used to say, like I'll
one day be in a relationship where I'm gonna have
like a dinner party here and have people over and
someone's gonna come play the piano, and like it never happened,
(09:39):
and it was kind of sad. I just didn't talk
about it ever because there was nothing I could do
about it. And I was in this big property with
an addition, there was this apartment that I made if
anybody was ever gonna live on the property, or if
anybody ever needed to like sleep over because they drove
too late, or an assistant we were doing HCN in
the morning, and like there was this apartment under this
(10:00):
three thousand foot cottage, and in my mind it was like,
I'm gonna shoot commercials there and like brand things there.
But I ended up wanting to do it in my
own space, in my own house, and I built a
studio in my basement, and I was like the cat
lady living on his fucking property. And it became Chicago
O'Hare or Atlanta Airport. It became this hub where like
I would be as a waiting place to go other
(10:20):
places to go to snowboard and assmen to get out
to the Hamptons to go somewhere do something, be on
a vacation, but like I, it was suffocating me. At
the same time, I started this social media life and
brands were sending shit, And as I kept getting more
and more shit, it found more places. Put it in
the cottage, put it in the basement, put it in
a studio, put it in the we work, give it
to that person, put it in the Hampton's, put it
(10:42):
in the city. And like I used to have this
anxiety like this house is gonna kill me. And I
am the opposite of a hoarder. I keep nothing just
to tell you how much this house like enveloped me
as just one person with a daughter who's here probably
like three quarters of a time. And like I'm looking
around it, like the light in the equipment, and I
make everything cute. I can't help it. I make everything
(11:03):
like perfect. I have heart shaped lights on the ceiling
for the studio, and like I keep trying. But I've
always been a person that likes small spaces in special places.
So I left my gorgeous Soho apartment when I went
to the Hampton's and I sold it for a massive profit,
(11:23):
and I dipped back in because of my daughter and
where she was in school at the time. And I
bought a two bedroom apartment in New York City, like
for when I do shoots in the city and like
working there. And that seemed to be very good because
it's a small it's two bedroom, but it's it's small
for me and like for what I do. So it's
like a small space and a special place in a
(11:47):
different part of New York City I'd never spent time in.
So now I feel like I'm like a tourist when
I go. You know, it's not the Soho Tribeca of
my younger years. It's more like calmer, like more almost
like adult in a way. It's not cool, it's more
like just nice. And then I always wanted to have
a place in Florida, so I bought a small place
in Florida and like that too. I was like, wait,
(12:09):
I really like this small space life. So I was
just sitting here like everybody else my age, and I
talked about it on this podcast. That's like waiting to
see what's gonna happen when their kids go to college,
knowing that I will move out of here, and then
Brita would be like, but mom, I'm gonna want a
place to come back from college. I'm like, we're not
from here, and I know we love it and you
(12:31):
have good friends, but you're gonna come back from college
and you're gonna go to spring break and in the summer,
you're gonna want to be in the Hamptons where we are,
Like this house will be probably a two week a
year thing for you. You know it's not. And I
left it alone, like I'm doing. We do everything for
our kids. I'm staying here for her until she graduates
college or goes to college. And let's see what happened.
(13:06):
So we were down in Florida and something very personal
transpired and I went to school in Florida, and I
don't want to get into all the details of this now,
but something happened and my daughter, who had said years ago,
I want to move to Florida, she cried to me
one time. I'm like, we can't. There are a set
(13:27):
of circumstances we can't, and I can't. And it actually
would have helped that other long distance relationship because that
person wanted to move to Florida too, But at that
time it was just a concept and I couldn't have
imagined living in Florida. So she said, I want to
move to Florida this trip, and I was like something
had happened, and I was like, maybe this is a
silver lining that this thing happened and Florida became a
(13:51):
real concept, like she had years ago said it. We
dropped it because she has great friends and a great life,
and she just said it, and she met and she
begged me, but she didn't have to beg me, like
she's just like I really want this. I'm like, you sure,
And I know my kid, and I knew that once
this was presented, this situation for her, that she'd want
to move, and I just was like fuck it, like
(14:14):
like fucking fuck it, Okay, you know. I didn't say
that to her. I said it to myself. And I
was in mode. I was in mode like the California
fires had just happened, Like something had just happened and
I had to solve the problem. And I got in
mode and I that was a month ago. That was
literally a month and four days ago, and I have
(14:36):
been a frazzled, manic mess since then. It leaned into
school house, sell house, pack house, and I was always
thinking in the background, like this fucking house is gonna
kill me. This fucking house is gonna kill me. It's
the best house. It's an amazing, extraordinary house for a
family that has kids, that have kids that will come
home for you have a staff, Like there's an apple orchard,
(14:59):
there are apples, like I can't believe I was so
successful that I was able to buy this, But more importantly,
I can't believe that I am so like I have
such vision that I was able to make this into
such an extraordinary property for someone like I don't get
emotional about things like that. I sold the house in
the Hamptons that I was in for like ten twelve years,
(15:20):
and we were just like ready. But there's something about
this house that I've been in and this town Greenwich
that I feel like I didn't give it its fair share,
you know, for me at the stage of my life,
and it was so amazing. And the person getting this
house like once this is out, like the deal will
be done already. This house sold itself. This house, I
had ten people come to look at it off market.
(15:42):
Four wanted to come back, two wanted to make offers
like it's been crazy and it's a lot more than
I paid. Because I put my blood, sweat, tears, pours
into this house, and like I was almost crying on
the planet today coming home from Florida, just for like
feeling like there's a plaque that says there were only
twenty people since seventeen four three that have ever lived
in this house, and I'm one of them, and my
name is on the plaque, And like I feel like
(16:04):
a fucking sellout for leaving this house after a couple
of years, but like someone deserves to be in here.
That's not gonna not use that dynamo and it's not
going to not use the entertainment bar and that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I built for them.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And I'm a person that like doesn't like when somebody
made a lot of money on a house, Like I
need to see the work. So whoever these people are,
because I don't know their names that came in, like
they are getting such an extraordinary home that I've put
my life into, and like people would pay me a
lot of money to do what I've done, like it
was insane. So I was like sentimental about it. But
I've been a manic fucking mix because I've had my
(16:38):
entire staff and I have a staff in circles moving
shit out. Here's the thing and You've heard me talk
a lot about decluttering and stuff. The thing is, this
is the thing I have gotten rid of. This is
not an exaggeration. Seventy percent of my stuff seventy percent.
(16:59):
Not a day goes by that there are not ten things,
and we haven't gotten to furniture yet. I'm leading every
single fucking thing. There has not been a day that
I haven't said dump it, dump it, dump it, goodbye,
donate it, get rid of it, to ten things. I
am dispassionate about anything. I don't care about stuff. I
want this new life to be stuff free. I want
to not be shackled. I want to not be enveloped.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I want to not.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Feel that I need all this space. I want to
feel free. I want a date. I want to enjoy.
I want to live. I want to have fun. I
want to travel. I and this weird, majestic, magical thing
that I did put out into the universe, it just
came and it saved me, Like I just I got out,
and I got out ethically in the sense that like
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I did not.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Push this on my kid.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And we can tell our kids what they have to
do and where they have to go, and they have
to switch schools, the last year of high school. If
we want because we're about to get a job, or
we're going to do something, or we get married, or
we could do whatever we want.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I didn't do that. I just didn't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
My kid's been through a lot and she wanted it.
And I just feel so happy that like it's all
coming together. But at this particular moment, I'm a just
a goddamn fucking wreck. Like I'm just a little bit
of a frazzle mess. I can't get out of it.
I have to finish everything. I swam in the ocean
this morning. I walk down the beach this morning. Like
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my best friends of my entire life live in Florida.
My best like the best friends that I have on
this planet live in Florida. I have a community there.
I want a community for my daughter. I want a
family for us, and like a place like, for example,
my friends from Florida, that's who we're seeing on Mother's Day.
I want to feel like we're part of something. We
don't have that strong family unit. I want to feel
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like we're part of something, and like I don't feel
like that in Greenwich, and I don't feel like that
in the city because I feel like that's what the
city is.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I just don't feel it. So my body, my choice.
We're moving.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm stressed. Had a glass of wine on the plane today.
For the first time in a while. I haven't been drinking.
It just feels like the only thing that's gonna like
calm me a little bit fucking down is to just
have a drink.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And it's not a good idea. I think I'm allergic
to tequila. The other day.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
My face started getting read right away and I had
like a terrible headache the next day. And that's why
I stopped drinking to begin with. One tequila, give me
one margarita. So anyway, I had a glass of wine
on the plane because I was just like, what am
I gonna do? Like I need to calm down. So
I'm a mess, and that's a ramp
I'm moving. I'm moving, and a lot of people have moved.
I'm not the only person who ever moved. I have resources, etc.
But the impetus of the move is immediate. I am
a person at the minute. There's like a disaster. And
that's why I can like activate and get into high
gear and move mountains and raise tens of millions of dollars. Okay,
(00:32):
but the problem is, I'm good for it. It's not
good for me. Is to produce events. I was good
for it, it wasn't good for me. I can't leave
one detail undetailed. I can't know it's not all finished.
I lay down to sleep in a place. Everyone around
me has to understand that there is not a fucking
corn husk prong thing in it. To eat corn if
(00:55):
you want to like meaning, it has to be a
fully stocked universe and everything has to be perfect. And
it's a problem. And I'm not saying it's good. It's
not changing. We are fucking too far into this thing.
We are the horses left the barn. We are pot committed,
and we just that toothpaste is not going back in
that fucking tube.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So wah.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was in a relationship and I mean fucking hi.
I was born at Long Island, Jewish in Queens, nearby
stake Charlie's near the tennis stadium. Wow, there's a lot
to say. I could tell you my whole life story.
One day, I'll tell you why I'm not Jewish, not Catholic,
not anything. My whole life is just being Ish. But
here we are in this discussion, and I will tell
you that I left the Housewives, was in a relationship,
(01:39):
was in the sick sick apartment in New York City
in Soho. The pandemic hit and that six sick apartment
in Soho became less desirable at that time. So I
ended up migrating out to the Hamptons. Don't forget, I
have a daughter and did never all the time, ended
up the pandemic, ended up cracking open something crazy and
saving my life. And I just ended up in a
(02:02):
different place than when the pandemic started, as it pertains
to my daughter. And so I was in a relationship
and it was long distance, but long close distance, which
is almost worse than long long distance, because long close
distance isn't that sexy, and like it's the travel isn't sexy,
and you're just sort of like trying to figure it out.
But it's still almost the same effort as getting on
a plane to go somewhere like far distance, and it
(02:25):
just it wasn't very ideal. And so as a dumb
idea in fantasy lamb when we thought like find a
place halfway or equidistant or close or whatever. I ended
up moving to the suburbs during the pandemic. And what's
funny is certainly my personal well being and health and
love is more important than money. But by making this
(02:46):
move to the suburbs and going out to Connecticut, I
can say it now because I'm moving and it's no
longer security risk. I ended up flipping three houses and
making millions and millions of dollars in Connecticut, including the
house that I bought. I am very good at real estate.
Touching story, it doesn't matter. But I ended up moving
to the suburbs and moving to Connecticut, to an area
called Greenwich that is beautiful. It is then I'm gonna
(03:09):
say this as I leave Greenwich in my house that
I sold and made a big profit, rockets to the
to the fucking to Saturn because of this sentence. But
I'm gonna say this. Greenwich is probably the nicest town
in the United States of America. And I mean I've
been Aspen and Palm Beach and Beverly Hills and bel Air,
et cetera. Like Greenwich is not even a town. It's big,
(03:29):
but it's like horses and property and old gorgeous stone
walls that go on forever and gates and honestly, in
the movies, it's like portrayed like Palm Beach, and there's
an allure to it because of the name. It's actually
pretty fucking chill. It's not like that, like there are
people and there assholes everywhere, but it's like very nondescript,
(03:50):
like Palm Beach is like dress in pastels. You're in
a costume party every day, Like you're in the costume party,
costplaying yourself, and you have of a billion dollars and
you actually feel like you're a loser because you don't
have five billion dollars. Like people are warped there, people
are insane. It's a big flex and it's a big
flex of a place that people pretend that they don't
(04:13):
care about their like they play like it doesn't matter.
Money is the main thing that matters, and Greenwich is
not like that. Okay, Aspen's like that, but it's also
not like that. Aspen is highs and lows like down
like Aspens, like the ski operators hanging out at like
a tech billionaire's house. So it's got the texture, and
Miami has that too. Miami can be like cheesy European
(04:36):
South American international Dubai asshole, douchebag, flashy watch, tight black
T shirt, but also like chic Argentine woman with her
hair slicked back like a band of sole ad, et cetera.
Palm Beach has one note. It's called money. It's gonna
be the longest story in history. I'm not even getting
(04:57):
close to it, so anyway, I And also like Nantucket
is different. Nantucket's a little more like Aspen. Like you
have like like probably fishermen, but like also like billionaires
and like you know, you've got Dave Portnoy, like degenerate
gambling in his basement and like the rich wasp bos
from Palm Beach don't want him there, but he like
probably gets along with some of the local people and
(05:19):
like Boston people, they get off the ferry and like
it's a mixed bag. It's just different. Okay, pom Beach
doesn't really have a lot of lows. They export them
at the end of the day of five o'clock, after
the work's done. Okay, So I moved to Greenwich, and
(05:42):
I think Greenwich is one of the nicest places in America,
if not the it's just it's and also there's horses,
and there is water and boating and you know, assholes
and nice people. But there are like middle class people
and Greenwich of people don't know about and it's bigger
than people think. And I liked it. But I'm not
from here and I'm not really from anywhere. But I
don't have any connection and it's almost like you're playing
(06:05):
double Dutch.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You're trying to like jump in.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And I could have any connection I want because I
have access and I know people, and the few people
that I do know here, every single one of them
is like a name brand person. But I'm not, like
I only have two really good friends here, a couple here,
and like other than that, I'm not gonna just like
start hanging out with people because I know them and
because they're like name brand people.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's just not my personality. I like my people.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I like the Hamptons, which also is extremely highs and
lows too. It's extremely they call it bonic, which is
like locals and fishermen and watermen and ocean rescue. And
then also yes, there are billionaires that are like in
Sagaponic and run major hedge funds and everything in between. Honestly,
there's like a lot going on there too. But like
(06:52):
I know the Hamptons, I've been going there since I'm twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I feel comfortable there, and there's a vibe there that,
even in January when it's freezing, like you feel like
you're on some version of a vacation. And Granwich is
more like where you live. And I just didn't really immerse,
and I just like, I'm familiar with the place I'm
familiar with, and I love them. In addition, in flipping
these houses, I ended up in this massive house, a compound,
(07:19):
and it was a reaction to the first house I
was in, which was a good, substantial house. But because
of my business and because of this podcast, and because
of the studio, and because of the shooting, and because
you know, shooting social media shit, and because of people.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Being around, I want people around. I need people around.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But I don't actually want them around, so I need
different spaces. And the place I ended up in had
like a separate structure, which is like great, this would
be a we work, which it became we call. It's
literally called the we Work. This entertainment bar and this separate,
separate structure that I created out of like a wood shop.
These are all the things I do also to create value.
The work was a shed. The entertainment barn is a
(08:03):
shit like place where rakes were. But I'm very good
at envisioning what things can be. That's just like my
that's my gift in life, knowing seeing something and being
able to see something nobody else sees.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I'm really good at that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's why I've been exceptional at personal real estate, and
like the numbers are all live, I've done extremely well.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So the entertainment barn.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
In britn and the movie screen in the bar, and
I create all these fantasies that like don't end up
happening for me. You know, this amazing gorgeous dining room
in this landmark property that's from seventeen forty three, and
it's historical and has original beams. So we're gonna take
the original beams that I found in the attic, and
we're going to put them under the stove, you know,
the top of the stove and the ceiling of the
(08:45):
kitchen and like all this vision right, and you don't
know how you're actually gonna live. And like this gorgeous
dining room that is original seventeen forty three, this has
those only twenty people that have ever lived here.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's a landmark property. The governor lived.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Here, and this relationship that I'm in, but like then
everybody gets deal fatigue, and like I don't want to
go there, and they don't want to come here, and
like kids have their own activities and they're doing their
own things on the weekend. So it's not the thing
where you like took this house because you like thought
everyone was gonna be frozen in time and live in
the same house together, and like it never happened, and
(09:19):
I never I did one. The only dinner I've ever
done in that dining room was my team for like
takeout Italian and my daughter and I Christmas Eve, and
like it was beautiful that we did it, but it
also felt sad. Like I used to say, like I'll
one day be in a relationship where I'm gonna have
like a dinner party here and have people over and
someone's gonna come play the piano, and like it never happened,
(09:39):
and it was kind of sad. I just didn't talk
about it ever because there was nothing I could do
about it. And I was in this big property with
an addition, there was this apartment that I made if
anybody was ever gonna live on the property, or if
anybody ever needed to like sleep over because they drove
too late, or an assistant we were doing HCN in
the morning, and like there was this apartment under this
(10:00):
three thousand foot cottage, and in my mind it was like,
I'm gonna shoot commercials there and like brand things there.
But I ended up wanting to do it in my
own space, in my own house, and I built a
studio in my basement, and I was like the cat
lady living on his fucking property. And it became Chicago
O'Hare or Atlanta Airport. It became this hub where like
I would be as a waiting place to go other
(10:20):
places to go to snowboard and assmen to get out
to the Hamptons to go somewhere do something, be on
a vacation, but like I, it was suffocating me. At
the same time, I started this social media life and
brands were sending shit, And as I kept getting more
and more shit, it found more places. Put it in
the cottage, put it in the basement, put it in
a studio, put it in the we work, give it
to that person, put it in the Hampton's, put it
(10:42):
in the city. And like I used to have this
anxiety like this house is gonna kill me. And I
am the opposite of a hoarder. I keep nothing just
to tell you how much this house like enveloped me
as just one person with a daughter who's here probably
like three quarters of a time. And like I'm looking
around it, like the light in the equipment, and I
make everything cute. I can't help it. I make everything
(11:03):
like perfect. I have heart shaped lights on the ceiling
for the studio, and like I keep trying. But I've
always been a person that likes small spaces in special places.
So I left my gorgeous Soho apartment when I went
to the Hampton's and I sold it for a massive profit,
(11:23):
and I dipped back in because of my daughter and
where she was in school at the time. And I
bought a two bedroom apartment in New York City, like
for when I do shoots in the city and like
working there. And that seemed to be very good because
it's a small it's two bedroom, but it's it's small
for me and like for what I do. So it's
like a small space and a special place in a
(11:47):
different part of New York City I'd never spent time in.
So now I feel like I'm like a tourist when
I go. You know, it's not the Soho Tribeca of
my younger years. It's more like calmer, like more almost
like adult in a way. It's not cool, it's more
like just nice. And then I always wanted to have
a place in Florida, so I bought a small place
in Florida and like that too. I was like, wait,
(12:09):
I really like this small space life. So I was
just sitting here like everybody else my age, and I
talked about it on this podcast. That's like waiting to
see what's gonna happen when their kids go to college,
knowing that I will move out of here, and then
Brita would be like, but mom, I'm gonna want a
place to come back from college. I'm like, we're not
from here, and I know we love it and you
(12:31):
have good friends, but you're gonna come back from college
and you're gonna go to spring break and in the summer,
you're gonna want to be in the Hamptons where we are,
Like this house will be probably a two week a
year thing for you. You know it's not. And I
left it alone, like I'm doing. We do everything for
our kids. I'm staying here for her until she graduates
college or goes to college. And let's see what happened.
(13:06):
So we were down in Florida and something very personal
transpired and I went to school in Florida, and I
don't want to get into all the details of this now,
but something happened and my daughter, who had said years ago,
I want to move to Florida, she cried to me
one time. I'm like, we can't. There are a set
(13:27):
of circumstances we can't, and I can't. And it actually
would have helped that other long distance relationship because that
person wanted to move to Florida too, But at that
time it was just a concept and I couldn't have
imagined living in Florida. So she said, I want to
move to Florida this trip, and I was like something
had happened, and I was like, maybe this is a
silver lining that this thing happened and Florida became a
(13:51):
real concept, like she had years ago said it. We
dropped it because she has great friends and a great life,
and she just said it, and she met and she
begged me, but she didn't have to beg me, like
she's just like I really want this. I'm like, you sure,
And I know my kid, and I knew that once
this was presented, this situation for her, that she'd want
to move, and I just was like fuck it, like
(14:14):
like fucking fuck it, Okay, you know. I didn't say
that to her. I said it to myself. And I
was in mode. I was in mode like the California
fires had just happened, Like something had just happened and
I had to solve the problem. And I got in
mode and I that was a month ago. That was
literally a month and four days ago, and I have
(14:36):
been a frazzled, manic mess since then. It leaned into
school house, sell house, pack house, and I was always
thinking in the background, like this fucking house is gonna
kill me. This fucking house is gonna kill me. It's
the best house. It's an amazing, extraordinary house for a
family that has kids, that have kids that will come
home for you have a staff, Like there's an apple orchard,
(14:59):
there are apples, like I can't believe I was so
successful that I was able to buy this, But more importantly,
I can't believe that I am so like I have
such vision that I was able to make this into
such an extraordinary property for someone like I don't get
emotional about things like that. I sold the house in
the Hamptons that I was in for like ten twelve years,
(15:20):
and we were just like ready. But there's something about
this house that I've been in and this town Greenwich
that I feel like I didn't give it its fair share,
you know, for me at the stage of my life,
and it was so amazing. And the person getting this
house like once this is out, like the deal will
be done already. This house sold itself. This house, I
had ten people come to look at it off market.
(15:42):
Four wanted to come back, two wanted to make offers
like it's been crazy and it's a lot more than
I paid. Because I put my blood, sweat, tears, pours
into this house, and like I was almost crying on
the planet today coming home from Florida, just for like
feeling like there's a plaque that says there were only
twenty people since seventeen four three that have ever lived
in this house, and I'm one of them, and my
name is on the plaque, And like I feel like
(16:04):
a fucking sellout for leaving this house after a couple
of years, but like someone deserves to be in here.
That's not gonna not use that dynamo and it's not
going to not use the entertainment bar and that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I built for them.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And I'm a person that like doesn't like when somebody
made a lot of money on a house, Like I
need to see the work. So whoever these people are,
because I don't know their names that came in, like
they are getting such an extraordinary home that I've put
my life into, and like people would pay me a
lot of money to do what I've done, like it
was insane. So I was like sentimental about it. But
I've been a manic fucking mix because I've had my
(16:38):
entire staff and I have a staff in circles moving
shit out. Here's the thing and You've heard me talk
a lot about decluttering and stuff. The thing is, this
is the thing I have gotten rid of. This is
not an exaggeration. Seventy percent of my stuff seventy percent.
(16:59):
Not a day goes by that there are not ten things,
and we haven't gotten to furniture yet. I'm leading every
single fucking thing. There has not been a day that
I haven't said dump it, dump it, dump it, goodbye,
donate it, get rid of it, to ten things. I
am dispassionate about anything. I don't care about stuff. I
want this new life to be stuff free. I want
to not be shackled. I want to not be enveloped.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I want to not.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Feel that I need all this space. I want to
feel free. I want a date. I want to enjoy.
I want to live. I want to have fun. I
want to travel. I and this weird, majestic, magical thing
that I did put out into the universe, it just
came and it saved me, Like I just I got out,
and I got out ethically in the sense that like
(17:45):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Push this on my kid.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And we can tell our kids what they have to
do and where they have to go, and they have
to switch schools, the last year of high school. If
we want because we're about to get a job, or
we're going to do something, or we get married, or
we could do whatever we want.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I didn't do that. I just didn't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
My kid's been through a lot and she wanted it.
And I just feel so happy that like it's all
coming together. But at this particular moment, I'm a just
a goddamn fucking wreck. Like I'm just a little bit
of a frazzle mess. I can't get out of it.
I have to finish everything. I swam in the ocean
this morning. I walk down the beach this morning. Like
(18:22):
my best friends of my entire life live in Florida.
My best like the best friends that I have on
this planet live in Florida. I have a community there.
I want a community for my daughter. I want a
family for us, and like a place like, for example,
my friends from Florida, that's who we're seeing on Mother's Day.
I want to feel like we're part of something. We
don't have that strong family unit. I want to feel
(18:42):
like we're part of something, and like I don't feel
like that in Greenwich, and I don't feel like that
in the city because I feel like that's what the
city is.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I just don't feel it. So my body, my choice.
We're moving.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm stressed. Had a glass of wine on the plane today.
For the first time in a while. I haven't been drinking.
It just feels like the only thing that's gonna like
calm me a little bit fucking down is to just
have a drink.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And it's not a good idea. I think I'm allergic
to tequila. The other day.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
My face started getting read right away and I had
like a terrible headache the next day. And that's why
I stopped drinking to begin with. One tequila, give me
one margarita. So anyway, I had a glass of wine
on the plane because I was just like, what am
I gonna do? Like I need to calm down. So
I'm a mess, and that's a ramp
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