January 6, 2026 • 29 mins
Most wonderful time of the year... and it can also feel like the world is ending. Plus, something a little more lighthearted! Take care of yourselves and each other.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Every year we think we have a handle on the holidays.
We have to pack, we're going away. We have to
get the holiday stuff out, we have to put it away.
We have to get the platters. We're cooking.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We got a shop.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We haven't gotten our roots done. We didn't get a manicure.
We are starting to eat garbage. And we said we
weren't going to We stopped working out. We just stopped
working out. Nothing happened. We just decided we just stopped
working out because we're going away or it's gonna be
the holidays and we're gonna fuck it up anyway. The gifts,
the gifts and remembering people, and you know, I'm a
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psycho about the gifts, but then like I keep remembering
a new person every day, which is anxiety producing because
I'm not gonna leave here until giving all the gifts
out and then me OCD. I have to clean everything out.
Everything has to be organized. And the holidays will beat
the shit out of you. And something comes to a
head with your business and your family. Your kids are
going through finals or midterms. Your kids are going through
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midterms at the same time that you're stressing out about
the holidays and they're studying and they're cracking and they
think that their work is the only work that's going
on when we're working like dogs. So at the same
time that they're fucking crashing out because of exams, we're
crashing out because of oh my god, did we do this?
Did we tip that person? Did we do end of
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the year bonuses? You know, all of that. And their
job is school, and if they're doing a good job
of it, they are working really hard and stressing and studying,
and so they're like, but we I have this, and
I have that, and I have to do this, and
you're literally on fumes and the exhaustion is real this
time of year, it's real, and you're like, wait, am
I going to be able to make it through? And
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it hit me yesterday where like I thought the world
was coming to an end. I was like, I was
thinking about that tragedy, that Rob Reiner tragedy. I was
thinking about the horrific nature of the crime, and then
I was thinking about, Ugh, that kid getting the best
defense attorney in the fucking world, and like I don't know,
I don't know, Like, yes, mental illness, yes, drug addiction,
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but like we were kids, people didn't have such severe
and intense and nuanced food intolerances, meaning, yes, you have
a foodology.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's real. I have a very serious foodology.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I could die, so coming from me, it's rich to
say this, but like everybody, I'm intolerant to this and
I can't have that, and I like to stay away
from this, and I like to stay away from that.
And everybody gets caught and everyone gets a ribbon. And
now every single person who you know has a moment
that's uncomfortable needs special attention. And mental illness is absolutely real,
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and drug addiction is real. So it's just it's fucking insane.
Has that it's fucking insane? It really really is it?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Really?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I can't stop thinking about it. It's just it's just
it's just so infuriating. What something didn't need to happen.
But let's talk about this, like, how could it have
actually been prevented? You can't think your kid is going
to murder you. The kid lived in their guest house,
had been to rehab all these different types of years.
What kind of pain underlying pain and shame do those
poor parents have in having to like be happy and
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friendly and pillars in their community and people liked them,
and they were social and they were nice, and I
spent the afternoon with them one time, and they were
so open. I don't know them. I can't pretend to
have known them. I don't know them. I didn't know them.
But like, what are you hiding underneath when you have
to manage a kid's addiction like that? And I know
other people who have had this, and all those people
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it must be triggering so much at this time, because
how do you know where the line is? And how
do you know what line you have to draw with
your kids? Meaning there's a line in what the kid
is capable of, But then where is the line that
you're drawing? Because there are probably so many parents right
now of addicts that are saying, wait, am I not
supposed to speak to my child? Am I supposed to
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have a gun next to my bed? I'm I supposed
to have a padlock on my door? Like how do
you know the sister seemed to feel signs of it.
Something happened at a dinner, But something could tweak someone
in one second, Like, it doesn't mean there's not going
to be a bunch of signs leading up to someone
slashing their parents' throats. So I mean, how are parents
of addicts, husbands of addicts, kids of addicts supposed to
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handle this? How are they supposed to know where the
line is? Like right now, a lot of people have
to be very triggered by this story, wondering what they're
supposed to do, not sleeping and I thinking their kid
is going to come in their room and kill them.
When it is an outlier, most things don't happen, but
it could happen. So how could you possibly prepare for
something like that? How could you prepare? I just want
someone to explain to me how these people are supposed
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to process this piece of information and what Rob and
his wife were supposed to do. The kid's an adult,
never let him in the house again because he's an addict.
There's got to have been a massive bridge between what
he did and what he's capable of. Because Rob Ryner
would not have done a movie with a kid or
been around a every day. That seems any version of
capable of murder. It's just upsetting. And all the hate
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and all the violence.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Right now, we're just all walking on eggshells overall, We're
all like sort of hanging on by a thread, so scared.
It's bringing up a lot of political divide again. I
hear a lot of hate. I was at a birthday
party that a woman had and I was her birthday
gift from her husband, and it was so fun and
the women were so nice. Shout out to Laurie, the
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birthday girl. And there were a bunch of blonds in
the background and they all were well dressed, and everybody
was coming in with like maga comments like you can't
have blonde hair and not a voter for Trump? Like
what the fuck is going on? You have blonde hair
and you wear in diamond earrings you voted for Trump?
Like I don't even understand it. I mean I do
understand it, because there's become a stereotype. But it's bizarre.
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And first of all, I was just there, like it's
just it's so crazy. But it just says divisiveness. It
just says divisiveness. So what are you doing for the holidays.
I love being home as much as traveling. I am
traveling and I'm excited to connect with britann and do
a nice trip with Like we're renting jeeps and we're
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going somewhere beachy and we're gonna shop and be cute
and like I even offer her to do another boat trip,
like not a crazy whole week one, but she was like,
I don't want to. I just want us to be
like going for breakfast and walking and driving our jeep
to the beach and like she wants to have a
home moment. I am so lucky that I have a
daughter who loves the meaning and the traditions. For example,
I said to her, did you want to go to
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the Bahamas or did you want to go somewhere away
for like actual Christmas, or even did you want to
go skiing somewhere? And she was like, can we Mama,
can we just go to the Hamdans with the babies?
The doggoes, can we just be with the babies? And
can we just like do the tree and be cute
and like she says, be cute, like be basic, like
wake up and drink coffee and snug the babies and
watch a Christmas movie. Like I am so lucky, like
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my daughter just her dream is to be and Christmas
pajamas with her mama, drinking coffee with the babies. We
go to decorate gingerbread house, We go to ice skate,
we go to pick out our ornament, like nothing, we
go to TJ Max, Like we'll do nothing and it
will be everything. And I'm so excited because it's transactional
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during the school year. And even if I'm home, which
is important, I might get into that in a minute.
Even if I'm home, it's just like I can't I
gotta study. I'm doing this, so let's have dinner. But
it's like, hug a hug, can you listen to my homework?
Can I read this to you? But it's like, gotta go, mom,
I gotta run to school. Like it's just choppy, and
to have that time that we're gonna just be together,
just laying doing nothing, feeling stale, and like we're gonna
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make our own Christmas dinner.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
On Christmas Eve, we do it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
We cook together, and then we wake up when we
do the presents for us, for the dogs, and then
we're flying home on Christmas night. But I don't even
mind it because it's with her, and it's like we're
gonna fly in the evening and it'll be like sort
of dark and like chilly, and I don't know. I'm
just so excited just to be with her and like
absorb her, just like five days, three too, four five
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days in the Hampton's and then eight days away somewhere sunny,
Oh the dream. And right now she's in midterms and
she's been studying so much, and I have been home
for an extended period. I would say this is three weeks.
I was supposed to go shout out to TikTok. I
was supposed to present a TikTok award and TikTok has
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been great to me and I love TikTok, and I
canceled and I just told them. I just said, guys,
like I can't do it, like I'm running out of gas,
and I need to be here for my daughter. And
like I just the six months have been on fumes,
and I've said yes to so many amazing opportunities that
it's hard to even balance because they're all so good.
So saying no is hard because they're all good opportunities.
So you start saying no to big ticket, good items.
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And I just was like, I can't go to La
and do. I need to be with my daughter. I
just need to be here even if she passes me
like ships passing in the night, and right now she's
studying for midterms and it's stressful and like she'll get
upset for like ten minutes about something and just to
be there when she comes in to do that. Or
last night when she was like, can I just read this?
You just have to listen? Can I just read?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
My Christopher Columbus a push information? And I'm like sure.
And even if she gets snappy when I ask her
a question about it, she's like, oh, I don't know, Mom,
it doesn't matter. I'm like, okay, sorry, just a quick question.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And being there is so critical just for like the
drive buys, just for them to see you, just to
know that you're in the house, Like just being in
this space. It's so critical and important. It's so critical
and important. Some of us are lucky enough to go
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on a vacation or just having your morning's free as
a vacation, but if you have your kids home, it
might not feel like a vacation. So I say to you,
sleep is your friend. Alcohol is not. Last night I
got my first real solid I can't say it was
uninterrupted because it was interrupted, but I can say that
your brain functions differently, your mind, your emotions, function differently
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when you've had a good night's sleep, and if you're drinking,
it's going to disrupt your sleep. So try to take
care of yourself. Try to lock the door before you
get robbed. Try to be as healthy as possible. Try
to take a walk, try to do yoga, try to
drink water, try not to get overly activated. It is
a very activating time. You're also bracing yourself for seeing
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your family. Who's coming, who's not, who got invited, who't,
who's cooking, who isn't. How many people are we having,
why do we have to have them? And why do
we have to go there? And how do we navigate
the traffic? And I don't want to do this. One
of my friends wants to go to this place on vacation,
and one of her daughter desperately wants to go there,
but it's a cold place, and she is exhausted because
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she's working and she just wants to do something warm,
and her other child wants to go somewhere warm, And like,
if you have many kids, everybody is running in different
directions and wanting to do different things.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
How do you hide the gifts from the kids? Did
everyone good?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But they wanted Do you have to be on the
VIP list to get the thing that's viral that all
the kids want? Are you getting the real expensive sneakers
or the cheap oversion? Are they gonna know? Are you
gonna feel like a loser? Can you afford all of this?
Are you doing the cookie baking party? Like? I'm not
trying to complain, I just do hear a lot of
people getting very stressed out at this time of year,
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Like it's just like it happens. So I think about
all these celebrities that are constantly in hair and makeup,
constantly traveling, constantly working, constantly doing, and I am very
aware of the meaning of time. Now many days I'm
just home in pajamas and like, I wouldn't be doing
anything interesting anyway. I wouldn't be going to a museum.
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I'm not going to be at the beach all the time.
I've taken like a week now. By the way, for
those of you who think I work out all the time,
I haven't lifted a finger in two weeks now, not
one thing, not a single thing. But I say what
I'm saying about that I'm not every day doing something
useful and productive, even if I have the day off,
but I'm very acutely aware of the meaning of time
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and how precious it is. And I've been around a
lot lately with my daughter, and like I've told you before,
last night, she wanted to come in and do all
these flash cards for her exam.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Like it wasn't the biggest deal.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It was probably thirty minutes of my time to do
the flash cards, but her knowing that I was here
to do them with her, even though I didn't speak
to her the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
She's been studying.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And then she had a bit of a challenge with
something going on a school and I was right there
to help her solve it. And you know, they just
need to know that you're there, And so I'm not
ever going to give that up. My daughter doesn't always
come first, meaning I don't if she has a hangnail,
I'm not jumping off a cliff to deal with it.
I'm not that version of a helicopter parent. But I
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like being around And I bring this up because there's
no amount of success that's worth me sacrificing that time.
And also my mental health, like also just feeling like
a lot is coming on. I have a new startup
the dating community, which is amazing and it helps a
lot of people. But I have a very bad habit,
and you might have this too. Doesn't mean you're a
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big entrepreneur, doesn't mean you have to have a business
by size. You could do it in your neighborhood. You
take on too much. Something seems like a good idea,
you say yes to it, you do it, you go
with it. It could be anything. It could be volunteering. It
could be making the costumes for a show. It could
be making plans, planning the party, doing something for your husband,
planning the trip, whatever it is. And you take on
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too much, and it's almost too late once you've realized it,
like you already got robbed. You can't lock the door anymore,
so you could lock it for next time. But it's
hard to really like stop the tide. And I've been
very overwhelmed and I've taken on too much, and I'm
trying to control everyone around me who's constantly just like
thinking that one more thing to dump onto me is okay.
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And I end up getting resentful of the people around
me who just think, like, she'll just take on one
more thing, just dump it on.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Her, just give her that.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And if you're a doer, if someone just says like, hey,
you don't have to and if at any point you
feel inspired and you want to do this, then I'm
gonna do it, or hey, this kind of has to
get done, and like then I'm gonna do it. So
people around you will just sort of like subtly push
the envelope. It could be your kids where like they're
not helping you load the dishwasher or they're not making
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a bed. Like it's just like a little nuance where
like you're supposed to do it, you're supposed.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
To handle it. And that just seems to happen to
women more. It just does. It just seems to happen
to women more.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm not saying men aren't pleasers and don't want to
bend over backwards and do and they are.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Men are great.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'm just saying, take a deep breath and do not engage.
Do not take the bait this holiday season. Okay, do
not take the bait. So sometimes I say something that
I think is so obvious, and then people will be like, wow,
that was beautifully written, et cetera. And maybe it's the
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way it's written because I feel like what I'm writing
is stupid. Like I feel like when I do relief
work sometimes like what the hell's the difference? Like, and
that's such a terrible attitude. But sometimes you get defeated
and you're like, what does it even matter? Millions of
people like that lose their homes and these disasters and
these bad things happen, and we, you know, give a
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couple million dollars, which yes, is amazing and it helps
some people, and that does make a difference, but like,
sometimes it feels like it's like I drop a poison
in the ocean. So I did a post yesterday about
all this hate and murder and violence, and it's hard
to argue there is a sense of dread like ugh,
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Brown University. And then you're a parent and you're like,
fuck like when we when we were kids, when we
were kids, when we were kids, when we were kids,
were those people now, Like I went to the roller
rink by myself. From sixth grade to ninth grade, I
would go to Hot Skin It's I think it was
sixth grade. And like I used to go into the
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city at fourteen years old and go to nightclubs. Again
not an example, but at thirteen years old was going
to nightclubs in Saratoga. Again, not an example, but the
point is, like I would take the train into New
York City and go to Eighth Street to buy Doc
Martin type like goth shoes, and I don't want my
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kid in the city in public places. I like when
we live in like suburban, boring communities, Like I don't
want that shit anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't need any action.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Like it's too much, it's too fucking scary and too
much Coachella. She wants to fucking go to one day,
Like that's my nightmare, God forbid. She ever one day
wanted to see the ball drop a Times Square.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Immediately, No, immediately. No.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Brown University is not even like an action packed urban
center university. It's it's just it's like almost no rhyme
or reason. And then there's no what's the point. You'd
never leave her house. It's just like a lottery. I
did something last night. I was talking about the importance
of knowing that if something feels uncomfortable in any way,
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you cannot ignore it. I have been in situations in
my life where I have thought someone might be capable
of doing something. I'm referring obviously to Brown University to Australia.
I'm referring to Rob Reiner and their son killing them.
And there's a new show called Task and the man's son,
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who's mentally has mental illness, kills his mother. It's too
eerie and it tears the entire family apart, obviously, and
there's so much blame. And the son is an adopted son,
and so there's a sister that's not adopted and she's
like resenting that the adopted child killed the mother, and
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the father is left to deal with the aftermath and
doesn't go to visit his son.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He can't handle it. He was done them too much.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And in the end of the show he has to
end up deciding whether he's going to write a letter
on his behalf or not because the other adopted child
as a sister and she's advocating for the father to
write a letter, and the father saying that he'll always
have a home this for this kid, and like, I
don't know if he should, even though it's a character,
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because that was Rob Reiner. Rob Reiner is the character
in Task who's like always having an open door for
his child because it's his child. So anyway, I have
had situations where I have felt that someone might be
capable of doing something to me. I have felt like
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there's a potential risk of harm. It's just felt like
I wouldn't put it past this person. And it could
happen with a coworker. It could happen obviously with your child.
Let's say your child bites people. There are red flags.
Your child throws something, and parents have shame about their kids,
so they cover it up. People do that with their dogs.
People do that with their dogs. It sounds insane, But
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people with their dogs. Oh no, no, no, she's friendly. No no, no,
just when she sees green, No, just when like people
are like trying to over explain for their misbehaved dogs
or dogs that have like problems, and dogs mall people.
Dogs kill people. It happens with dogs, It happens with people.
She's oh no, she just yeah, he didn't mean it.
He's just this, He just gets frustrated. He like, people
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have a lot of shame and cover up for their
kids and their family members, their siblings, their kids, their parents.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Shit happens, Shit happens. Parents kill their kids.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
If there's a crack, it can become a crater if
there's a pink flag, it can become a red flag.
A jealous husband or spouse or boyfriend or fiance doesn't
want the person to be with anyone else.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You just don't know the world.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And again this is a circular reference because the world
is so fucking stressful right now that people are tweaked.
There used to be a movie called fall Down with
Michael Douglas where one day, like I think he loses
his job, something else happens, He gets in the car,
there's traffic.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's just the.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
One day, this one day that like everything hits sideways.
He's unhinged. We've all had that, an airport delay, you're exhausted,
you're tired, you're broke, you're hungover. Listen, the world is
stressful to begin with as a result of a lot
of these things, as a result of a lot of
this hate. And then compound that with the stresses of
maybe having multiple jobs, or mental illness or addiction or
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money issues or whatever, jealousy, something tweaks you. So someone
could fucking go off who didn't even have anything happening,
that never did anything in their life. So with how
stressful life is, you have to be looking around you.
What could go on, because a lot could go on,
and most things don't happen, but some things do happen,
and they can happen to you.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
So enough with the shame.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Because you feel like you're not being a good person,
good parent, good sibling.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You have to do your best.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You shouldn't abandon everyone. I'm not saying that, but sit
can go sideways. Rob Reiner and his wife. I spent
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the day and evening with one time the afternoon and
evening with. I was in Malibu on Carbon Canyon. I'm
pretty sure it was Carbon Canyon, which is like the
nice strip.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And I was at someone's.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
House and I don't remember whose house I was at,
which is interesting, and I guess it got a little.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Either rowdy or overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And I just took a beach walk as I would
and do, and I was walking by this house and
these people are always outside in the summer, like it's
sort of very social in Malibu, and people just barbecuing
and hanging out and it's a slight vibe. It's not
crazy or anything, but it's like a thing. You'll see
somebody and people know each other at the different houses.
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Not crazy, not like the Jersey Shore or Cape Caught
or something, but just like it exists. And I was
walking by and the woman recognized me or one of
her friends someone recognized me. And this was a long time,
but I am pretty sure Brynn wasn't born unless Brynn
was with us, huh, I don't remember. I don't know
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if that's an important detail, but it was that long
ago she would have been a baby. And they invited
us into their house, Rob Reiner and his wife, and
they had family and friends over and I don't remember
what family, it's not important and certainly not important now.
And we hung out with them and we ended up
having dinner with them, like we just had the day
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with them. We just hung out with Rob Reiner or
his wife one time in my life. And we did
message after, but that was kind of it, like that
was just it. I just had had that day with them.
They were lovely, amazing people, so nice. I mean, think
about it, like we freaking ate at their house, at
their house, and I knew someone in common with them.
I don't want to say the name of the person
because it's maybe not relevant, but.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, what a tragedy.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And I am taking more time to think about how
precious life is and what matters and doesn't matter. And
from my brief, tiny little glimpse and perspective, they were
really nice, open people. And what a tragic thing to
have a child who's an addict. I'm gonna cry, like
to just love fuck, fuck, just to love your child unconditionally.
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And I don't know that. I don't know that I
would have it. I don't know that I would be
as good as they were. I don't know that I
would be as patient and open and tolerant and vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I just don't think I would.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I think if I had a child who was like
a severe addict and had done so many things to
hurt me, I don't know that I could do it.
So I actually they died being open, loving, vulnerable, open
heard people.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Honestly, What a what a mess? What a mess?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, one of these douchey designers trashed Kendall Jenner's house,
And now I know that the world is flat. Okay,
now I know that this planet is flat because Kendall
Jenner designed a house and I saw it's funny because
I had an airstream that I was buying and I
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was gonna put it on my Hampton's property and design
it and I've wanted to do that. It's a passion project.
I still will do it. And she created this guest
room out of this airstream. It's so creative and her
entire house is so her personal touch that like she
was the way that sometimes she'll wear like a daring
fashion outfit, like she'll go for it is the way
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that her house expresses itself and herself. And someone was
calling it like grandma, Like what is I just have
a dumb question for everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
What is taste? Like what I'm gonna look up the definition.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Of taste and I don't think there can be bad
taste or good taste because somebody would have had to
decide that there was good and bad taste, and then
it's that person's taste that's deciding. Who the fuck is
that person to decide. I see people wear things all
the time in fashion. I'm like, what are you wearing?
So my taste doesn't like it? And my taste may
not even love Kendall Jenner's house for me, but like
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I like it for her.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I like it. I get it, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
She did what she wanted to do. Hold on a
person's liking for particular flavors. Okay, So you can't have
a good person's liking. It's their liking. It's Kendall Jenner's taste.
It's funny because when I look at someone's design or fashion,
I don't really look at whether I like it or not.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
When Kim wore like a thing over her head that
Kanye had done before, I don't know how to even
like it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I don't even know that she likes it. It was
a mess.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It was like it was it was it was a
it was a self expression. So I feel like when
someone does something, it could reflect where they are in
their life. It could reflect what they like. It could
reflect some whimsy, It could reflect some gimmick, like it
could be like when I decide to lean into the
joke and where something super rainbow and rhinestony, like, Do
I like like it? Do I think it's good to
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I just think it's silly, Like do when I wear
my pajamas every day that have a different creature cookie animal? Like?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Do I like it? I find it to be fun?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So I think that it's a reflection of someone's personal choice.
So I think, like if Kim Kardashian's house is completely muted.
Maybe she's like me and she wants to live in
a sanitarium. She wants peace and calm. Her life is chaotic,
she's so busy. If Kendall Jenner has a house that's
like Grandma chic with lots of like dark and rich
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colors and patterns and expression, like, maybe that's her way
of standing out in her family, or her way of
like nesting, and.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Who fucking knows who cares.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Like it's just funny that someone will come in and
criticize someone else's choices. Also in twenty twenty six, when
everyone's supposed to be able to be free and express yourself,
when we don't judge and all body types and everybody
gets surprised and everybody gets a metal and size doesn't matter.
You could be big, you could be small, you could
like any type of food, you could be from anywhere.
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You could be tall, you could be short, you could
be Latin, you could be Asian, you could be anything.
But you're not allowed to have your own personal taste
and what you wear, eat like people will make fun
of what you eat. I've had people that get mad
o the way I made it for me, I'm eating it.
So Kendall Jenner is going to be criticized for her taste.
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There's no I don't look at her house because I
need to like it for myself. I look at her
house because I want to know what she chose as
a self expression of a person who we've seen since
she was a little kid on a show with her sister.
At times overshadow her with her being one of the
most famous women in the world, with their other big
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sister become a billionaire, Like, well, how did you express
yourself in your home and how is it different than
how you expressed yourself last time? And how did you
express yourself with a met gala with what you wore
or to your kid's birthday party that you went over
the top or under the bottom? Like people are just
fucking insane. I give Megan Markle a lot of credit
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for her Netflix show. I have not seen it, but
my friend sent me a clip of her putting an
old like vintage scarf on a wine bottle and then
adding to it some holly, and like, I thought that
was a decent idea. I think it's uninspired to give
a wine bottle and I think like elevating and glowing
up a wine bottle, which I do with like fur
bags or ad coasters or a canda. I don't know,
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like she's just doing shit that she does and then
people now and I know, listen, I've had my opinions
on Megan Markle and some of her choices, but I
think her wine bottle and wrapping it in a nice
scarf is not the worst idea I've ever seen. And
she's just expressing ship that she doesn't like. So yeah,
that's I guess what I have to say today as
we talk about the holiday season.
Every year we think we have a handle on the holidays.
We have to pack, we're going away. We have to
get the holiday stuff out, we have to put it away.
We have to get the platters. We're cooking.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We got a shop.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We haven't gotten our roots done. We didn't get a manicure.
We are starting to eat garbage. And we said we
weren't going to We stopped working out. We just stopped
working out. Nothing happened. We just decided we just stopped
working out because we're going away or it's gonna be
the holidays and we're gonna fuck it up anyway. The gifts,
the gifts and remembering people, and you know, I'm a
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psycho about the gifts, but then like I keep remembering
a new person every day, which is anxiety producing because
I'm not gonna leave here until giving all the gifts
out and then me OCD. I have to clean everything out.
Everything has to be organized. And the holidays will beat
the shit out of you. And something comes to a
head with your business and your family. Your kids are
going through finals or midterms. Your kids are going through
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midterms at the same time that you're stressing out about
the holidays and they're studying and they're cracking and they
think that their work is the only work that's going
on when we're working like dogs. So at the same
time that they're fucking crashing out because of exams, we're
crashing out because of oh my god, did we do this?
Did we tip that person? Did we do end of
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the year bonuses? You know, all of that. And their
job is school, and if they're doing a good job
of it, they are working really hard and stressing and studying,
and so they're like, but we I have this, and
I have that, and I have to do this, and
you're literally on fumes and the exhaustion is real this
time of year, it's real, and you're like, wait, am
I going to be able to make it through? And
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it hit me yesterday where like I thought the world
was coming to an end. I was like, I was
thinking about that tragedy, that Rob Reiner tragedy. I was
thinking about the horrific nature of the crime, and then
I was thinking about, Ugh, that kid getting the best
defense attorney in the fucking world, and like I don't know,
I don't know, Like, yes, mental illness, yes, drug addiction,
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but like we were kids, people didn't have such severe
and intense and nuanced food intolerances, meaning, yes, you have
a foodology.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's real. I have a very serious foodology.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I could die, so coming from me, it's rich to
say this, but like everybody, I'm intolerant to this and
I can't have that, and I like to stay away
from this, and I like to stay away from that.
And everybody gets caught and everyone gets a ribbon. And
now every single person who you know has a moment
that's uncomfortable needs special attention. And mental illness is absolutely real,
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and drug addiction is real. So it's just it's fucking insane.
Has that it's fucking insane? It really really is it?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Really?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I can't stop thinking about it. It's just it's just
it's just so infuriating. What something didn't need to happen.
But let's talk about this, like, how could it have
actually been prevented? You can't think your kid is going
to murder you. The kid lived in their guest house,
had been to rehab all these different types of years.
What kind of pain underlying pain and shame do those
poor parents have in having to like be happy and
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friendly and pillars in their community and people liked them,
and they were social and they were nice, and I
spent the afternoon with them one time, and they were
so open. I don't know them. I can't pretend to
have known them. I don't know them. I didn't know them.
But like, what are you hiding underneath when you have
to manage a kid's addiction like that? And I know
other people who have had this, and all those people
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it must be triggering so much at this time, because
how do you know where the line is? And how
do you know what line you have to draw with
your kids? Meaning there's a line in what the kid
is capable of, But then where is the line that
you're drawing? Because there are probably so many parents right
now of addicts that are saying, wait, am I not
supposed to speak to my child? Am I supposed to
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have a gun next to my bed? I'm I supposed
to have a padlock on my door? Like how do
you know the sister seemed to feel signs of it.
Something happened at a dinner, But something could tweak someone
in one second, Like, it doesn't mean there's not going
to be a bunch of signs leading up to someone
slashing their parents' throats. So I mean, how are parents
of addicts, husbands of addicts, kids of addicts supposed to
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handle this? How are they supposed to know where the
line is? Like right now, a lot of people have
to be very triggered by this story, wondering what they're
supposed to do, not sleeping and I thinking their kid
is going to come in their room and kill them.
When it is an outlier, most things don't happen, but
it could happen. So how could you possibly prepare for
something like that? How could you prepare? I just want
someone to explain to me how these people are supposed
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to process this piece of information and what Rob and
his wife were supposed to do. The kid's an adult,
never let him in the house again because he's an addict.
There's got to have been a massive bridge between what
he did and what he's capable of. Because Rob Ryner
would not have done a movie with a kid or
been around a every day. That seems any version of
capable of murder. It's just upsetting. And all the hate
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and all the violence.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Right now, we're just all walking on eggshells overall, We're
all like sort of hanging on by a thread, so scared.
It's bringing up a lot of political divide again. I
hear a lot of hate. I was at a birthday
party that a woman had and I was her birthday
gift from her husband, and it was so fun and
the women were so nice. Shout out to Laurie, the
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birthday girl. And there were a bunch of blonds in
the background and they all were well dressed, and everybody
was coming in with like maga comments like you can't
have blonde hair and not a voter for Trump? Like
what the fuck is going on? You have blonde hair
and you wear in diamond earrings you voted for Trump?
Like I don't even understand it. I mean I do
understand it, because there's become a stereotype. But it's bizarre.
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And first of all, I was just there, like it's
just it's so crazy. But it just says divisiveness. It
just says divisiveness. So what are you doing for the holidays.
I love being home as much as traveling. I am
traveling and I'm excited to connect with britann and do
a nice trip with Like we're renting jeeps and we're
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going somewhere beachy and we're gonna shop and be cute
and like I even offer her to do another boat trip,
like not a crazy whole week one, but she was like,
I don't want to. I just want us to be
like going for breakfast and walking and driving our jeep
to the beach and like she wants to have a
home moment. I am so lucky that I have a
daughter who loves the meaning and the traditions. For example,
I said to her, did you want to go to
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the Bahamas or did you want to go somewhere away
for like actual Christmas, or even did you want to
go skiing somewhere? And she was like, can we Mama,
can we just go to the Hamdans with the babies?
The doggoes, can we just be with the babies? And
can we just like do the tree and be cute
and like she says, be cute, like be basic, like
wake up and drink coffee and snug the babies and
watch a Christmas movie. Like I am so lucky, like
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my daughter just her dream is to be and Christmas
pajamas with her mama, drinking coffee with the babies. We
go to decorate gingerbread house, We go to ice skate,
we go to pick out our ornament, like nothing, we
go to TJ Max, Like we'll do nothing and it
will be everything. And I'm so excited because it's transactional
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during the school year. And even if I'm home, which
is important, I might get into that in a minute.
Even if I'm home, it's just like I can't I
gotta study. I'm doing this, so let's have dinner. But
it's like, hug a hug, can you listen to my homework?
Can I read this to you? But it's like, gotta go, mom,
I gotta run to school. Like it's just choppy, and
to have that time that we're gonna just be together,
just laying doing nothing, feeling stale, and like we're gonna
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make our own Christmas dinner.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
On Christmas Eve, we do it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
We cook together, and then we wake up when we
do the presents for us, for the dogs, and then
we're flying home on Christmas night. But I don't even
mind it because it's with her, and it's like we're
gonna fly in the evening and it'll be like sort
of dark and like chilly, and I don't know. I'm
just so excited just to be with her and like
absorb her, just like five days, three too, four five
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days in the Hampton's and then eight days away somewhere sunny,
Oh the dream. And right now she's in midterms and
she's been studying so much, and I have been home
for an extended period. I would say this is three weeks.
I was supposed to go shout out to TikTok. I
was supposed to present a TikTok award and TikTok has
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been great to me and I love TikTok, and I
canceled and I just told them. I just said, guys,
like I can't do it, like I'm running out of gas,
and I need to be here for my daughter. And
like I just the six months have been on fumes,
and I've said yes to so many amazing opportunities that
it's hard to even balance because they're all so good.
So saying no is hard because they're all good opportunities.
So you start saying no to big ticket, good items.
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And I just was like, I can't go to La
and do. I need to be with my daughter. I
just need to be here even if she passes me
like ships passing in the night, and right now she's
studying for midterms and it's stressful and like she'll get
upset for like ten minutes about something and just to
be there when she comes in to do that. Or
last night when she was like, can I just read this?
You just have to listen? Can I just read?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
My Christopher Columbus a push information? And I'm like sure.
And even if she gets snappy when I ask her
a question about it, she's like, oh, I don't know, Mom,
it doesn't matter. I'm like, okay, sorry, just a quick question.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And being there is so critical just for like the
drive buys, just for them to see you, just to
know that you're in the house, Like just being in
this space. It's so critical and important. It's so critical
and important. Some of us are lucky enough to go
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on a vacation or just having your morning's free as
a vacation, but if you have your kids home, it
might not feel like a vacation. So I say to you,
sleep is your friend. Alcohol is not. Last night I
got my first real solid I can't say it was
uninterrupted because it was interrupted, but I can say that
your brain functions differently, your mind, your emotions, function differently
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when you've had a good night's sleep, and if you're drinking,
it's going to disrupt your sleep. So try to take
care of yourself. Try to lock the door before you
get robbed. Try to be as healthy as possible. Try
to take a walk, try to do yoga, try to
drink water, try not to get overly activated. It is
a very activating time. You're also bracing yourself for seeing
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your family. Who's coming, who's not, who got invited, who't,
who's cooking, who isn't. How many people are we having,
why do we have to have them? And why do
we have to go there? And how do we navigate
the traffic? And I don't want to do this. One
of my friends wants to go to this place on vacation,
and one of her daughter desperately wants to go there,
but it's a cold place, and she is exhausted because
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she's working and she just wants to do something warm,
and her other child wants to go somewhere warm, And like,
if you have many kids, everybody is running in different
directions and wanting to do different things.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
How do you hide the gifts from the kids? Did
everyone good?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But they wanted Do you have to be on the
VIP list to get the thing that's viral that all
the kids want? Are you getting the real expensive sneakers
or the cheap oversion? Are they gonna know? Are you
gonna feel like a loser? Can you afford all of this?
Are you doing the cookie baking party? Like? I'm not
trying to complain, I just do hear a lot of
people getting very stressed out at this time of year,
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Like it's just like it happens. So I think about
all these celebrities that are constantly in hair and makeup,
constantly traveling, constantly working, constantly doing, and I am very
aware of the meaning of time. Now many days I'm
just home in pajamas and like, I wouldn't be doing
anything interesting anyway. I wouldn't be going to a museum.
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I'm not going to be at the beach all the time.
I've taken like a week now. By the way, for
those of you who think I work out all the time,
I haven't lifted a finger in two weeks now, not
one thing, not a single thing. But I say what
I'm saying about that I'm not every day doing something
useful and productive, even if I have the day off,
but I'm very acutely aware of the meaning of time
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and how precious it is. And I've been around a
lot lately with my daughter, and like I've told you before,
last night, she wanted to come in and do all
these flash cards for her exam.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Like it wasn't the biggest deal.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It was probably thirty minutes of my time to do
the flash cards, but her knowing that I was here
to do them with her, even though I didn't speak
to her the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
She's been studying.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And then she had a bit of a challenge with
something going on a school and I was right there
to help her solve it. And you know, they just
need to know that you're there, And so I'm not
ever going to give that up. My daughter doesn't always
come first, meaning I don't if she has a hangnail,
I'm not jumping off a cliff to deal with it.
I'm not that version of a helicopter parent. But I
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like being around And I bring this up because there's
no amount of success that's worth me sacrificing that time.
And also my mental health, like also just feeling like
a lot is coming on. I have a new startup
the dating community, which is amazing and it helps a
lot of people. But I have a very bad habit,
and you might have this too. Doesn't mean you're a
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big entrepreneur, doesn't mean you have to have a business
by size. You could do it in your neighborhood. You
take on too much. Something seems like a good idea,
you say yes to it, you do it, you go
with it. It could be anything. It could be volunteering. It
could be making the costumes for a show. It could
be making plans, planning the party, doing something for your husband,
planning the trip, whatever it is. And you take on
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too much, and it's almost too late once you've realized it,
like you already got robbed. You can't lock the door anymore,
so you could lock it for next time. But it's
hard to really like stop the tide. And I've been
very overwhelmed and I've taken on too much, and I'm
trying to control everyone around me who's constantly just like
thinking that one more thing to dump onto me is okay.
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And I end up getting resentful of the people around
me who just think, like, she'll just take on one
more thing, just dump it on.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Her, just give her that.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And if you're a doer, if someone just says like, hey,
you don't have to and if at any point you
feel inspired and you want to do this, then I'm
gonna do it, or hey, this kind of has to
get done, and like then I'm gonna do it. So
people around you will just sort of like subtly push
the envelope. It could be your kids where like they're
not helping you load the dishwasher or they're not making
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a bed. Like it's just like a little nuance where
like you're supposed to do it, you're supposed.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
To handle it. And that just seems to happen to
women more. It just does. It just seems to happen
to women more.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm not saying men aren't pleasers and don't want to
bend over backwards and do and they are.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Men are great.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'm just saying, take a deep breath and do not engage.
Do not take the bait this holiday season. Okay, do
not take the bait. So sometimes I say something that
I think is so obvious, and then people will be like, wow,
that was beautifully written, et cetera. And maybe it's the
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way it's written because I feel like what I'm writing
is stupid. Like I feel like when I do relief
work sometimes like what the hell's the difference? Like, and
that's such a terrible attitude. But sometimes you get defeated
and you're like, what does it even matter? Millions of
people like that lose their homes and these disasters and
these bad things happen, and we, you know, give a
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couple million dollars, which yes, is amazing and it helps
some people, and that does make a difference, but like,
sometimes it feels like it's like I drop a poison
in the ocean. So I did a post yesterday about
all this hate and murder and violence, and it's hard
to argue there is a sense of dread like ugh,
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Brown University. And then you're a parent and you're like,
fuck like when we when we were kids, when we
were kids, when we were kids, when we were kids,
were those people now, Like I went to the roller
rink by myself. From sixth grade to ninth grade, I
would go to Hot Skin It's I think it was
sixth grade. And like I used to go into the
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city at fourteen years old and go to nightclubs. Again
not an example, but at thirteen years old was going
to nightclubs in Saratoga. Again, not an example, but the
point is, like I would take the train into New
York City and go to Eighth Street to buy Doc
Martin type like goth shoes, and I don't want my
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kid in the city in public places. I like when
we live in like suburban, boring communities, Like I don't
want that shit anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't need any action.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Like it's too much, it's too fucking scary and too
much Coachella. She wants to fucking go to one day,
Like that's my nightmare, God forbid. She ever one day
wanted to see the ball drop a Times Square.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Immediately, No, immediately. No.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Brown University is not even like an action packed urban
center university. It's it's just it's like almost no rhyme
or reason. And then there's no what's the point. You'd
never leave her house. It's just like a lottery. I
did something last night. I was talking about the importance
of knowing that if something feels uncomfortable in any way,
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you cannot ignore it. I have been in situations in
my life where I have thought someone might be capable
of doing something. I'm referring obviously to Brown University to Australia.
I'm referring to Rob Reiner and their son killing them.
And there's a new show called Task and the man's son,
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who's mentally has mental illness, kills his mother. It's too
eerie and it tears the entire family apart, obviously, and
there's so much blame. And the son is an adopted son,
and so there's a sister that's not adopted and she's
like resenting that the adopted child killed the mother, and
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the father is left to deal with the aftermath and
doesn't go to visit his son.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He can't handle it. He was done them too much.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And in the end of the show he has to
end up deciding whether he's going to write a letter
on his behalf or not because the other adopted child
as a sister and she's advocating for the father to
write a letter, and the father saying that he'll always
have a home this for this kid, and like, I
don't know if he should, even though it's a character,
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because that was Rob Reiner. Rob Reiner is the character
in Task who's like always having an open door for
his child because it's his child. So anyway, I have
had situations where I have felt that someone might be
capable of doing something to me. I have felt like
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there's a potential risk of harm. It's just felt like
I wouldn't put it past this person. And it could
happen with a coworker. It could happen obviously with your child.
Let's say your child bites people. There are red flags.
Your child throws something, and parents have shame about their kids,
so they cover it up. People do that with their dogs.
People do that with their dogs. It sounds insane, But
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people with their dogs. Oh no, no, no, she's friendly. No no, no,
just when she sees green, No, just when like people
are like trying to over explain for their misbehaved dogs
or dogs that have like problems, and dogs mall people.
Dogs kill people. It happens with dogs, It happens with people.
She's oh no, she just yeah, he didn't mean it.
He's just this, He just gets frustrated. He like, people
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have a lot of shame and cover up for their
kids and their family members, their siblings, their kids, their parents.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Shit happens, Shit happens. Parents kill their kids.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
If there's a crack, it can become a crater if
there's a pink flag, it can become a red flag.
A jealous husband or spouse or boyfriend or fiance doesn't
want the person to be with anyone else.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You just don't know the world.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And again this is a circular reference because the world
is so fucking stressful right now that people are tweaked.
There used to be a movie called fall Down with
Michael Douglas where one day, like I think he loses
his job, something else happens, He gets in the car,
there's traffic.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's just the.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
One day, this one day that like everything hits sideways.
He's unhinged. We've all had that, an airport delay, you're exhausted,
you're tired, you're broke, you're hungover. Listen, the world is
stressful to begin with as a result of a lot
of these things, as a result of a lot of
this hate. And then compound that with the stresses of
maybe having multiple jobs, or mental illness or addiction or
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money issues or whatever, jealousy, something tweaks you. So someone
could fucking go off who didn't even have anything happening,
that never did anything in their life. So with how
stressful life is, you have to be looking around you.
What could go on, because a lot could go on,
and most things don't happen, but some things do happen,
and they can happen to you.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
So enough with the shame.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Because you feel like you're not being a good person,
good parent, good sibling.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You have to do your best.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You shouldn't abandon everyone. I'm not saying that, but sit
can go sideways. Rob Reiner and his wife. I spent
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the day and evening with one time the afternoon and
evening with. I was in Malibu on Carbon Canyon. I'm
pretty sure it was Carbon Canyon, which is like the
nice strip.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And I was at someone's.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
House and I don't remember whose house I was at,
which is interesting, and I guess it got a little.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Either rowdy or overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And I just took a beach walk as I would
and do, and I was walking by this house and
these people are always outside in the summer, like it's
sort of very social in Malibu, and people just barbecuing
and hanging out and it's a slight vibe. It's not
crazy or anything, but it's like a thing. You'll see
somebody and people know each other at the different houses.
(22:02):
Not crazy, not like the Jersey Shore or Cape Caught
or something, but just like it exists. And I was
walking by and the woman recognized me or one of
her friends someone recognized me. And this was a long time,
but I am pretty sure Brynn wasn't born unless Brynn
was with us, huh, I don't remember. I don't know
(22:22):
if that's an important detail, but it was that long
ago she would have been a baby. And they invited
us into their house, Rob Reiner and his wife, and
they had family and friends over and I don't remember
what family, it's not important and certainly not important now.
And we hung out with them and we ended up
having dinner with them, like we just had the day
(22:43):
with them. We just hung out with Rob Reiner or
his wife one time in my life. And we did
message after, but that was kind of it, like that
was just it. I just had had that day with them.
They were lovely, amazing people, so nice. I mean, think
about it, like we freaking ate at their house, at
their house, and I knew someone in common with them.
I don't want to say the name of the person
because it's maybe not relevant, but.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, what a tragedy.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And I am taking more time to think about how
precious life is and what matters and doesn't matter. And
from my brief, tiny little glimpse and perspective, they were
really nice, open people. And what a tragic thing to
have a child who's an addict. I'm gonna cry, like
to just love fuck, fuck, just to love your child unconditionally.
(23:32):
And I don't know that. I don't know that I
would have it. I don't know that I would be
as good as they were. I don't know that I
would be as patient and open and tolerant and vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I just don't think I would.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I think if I had a child who was like
a severe addict and had done so many things to
hurt me, I don't know that I could do it.
So I actually they died being open, loving, vulnerable, open
heard people.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Honestly, What a what a mess? What a mess?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, one of these douchey designers trashed Kendall Jenner's house,
And now I know that the world is flat. Okay,
now I know that this planet is flat because Kendall
Jenner designed a house and I saw it's funny because
I had an airstream that I was buying and I
(24:31):
was gonna put it on my Hampton's property and design
it and I've wanted to do that. It's a passion project.
I still will do it. And she created this guest
room out of this airstream. It's so creative and her
entire house is so her personal touch that like she
was the way that sometimes she'll wear like a daring
fashion outfit, like she'll go for it is the way
(24:52):
that her house expresses itself and herself. And someone was
calling it like grandma, Like what is I just have
a dumb question for everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
What is taste? Like what I'm gonna look up the definition.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Of taste and I don't think there can be bad
taste or good taste because somebody would have had to
decide that there was good and bad taste, and then
it's that person's taste that's deciding. Who the fuck is
that person to decide. I see people wear things all
the time in fashion. I'm like, what are you wearing?
So my taste doesn't like it? And my taste may
not even love Kendall Jenner's house for me, but like
(25:28):
I like it for her.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I like it. I get it, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
She did what she wanted to do. Hold on a
person's liking for particular flavors. Okay, So you can't have
a good person's liking. It's their liking. It's Kendall Jenner's taste.
It's funny because when I look at someone's design or fashion,
I don't really look at whether I like it or not.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
When Kim wore like a thing over her head that
Kanye had done before, I don't know how to even
like it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I don't even know that she likes it. It was
a mess.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It was like it was it was it was a
it was a self expression. So I feel like when
someone does something, it could reflect where they are in
their life. It could reflect what they like. It could
reflect some whimsy, It could reflect some gimmick, like it
could be like when I decide to lean into the
joke and where something super rainbow and rhinestony, like, Do
I like like it? Do I think it's good to
(26:21):
I just think it's silly, Like do when I wear
my pajamas every day that have a different creature cookie animal? Like?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Do I like it? I find it to be fun?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So I think that it's a reflection of someone's personal choice.
So I think, like if Kim Kardashian's house is completely muted.
Maybe she's like me and she wants to live in
a sanitarium. She wants peace and calm. Her life is chaotic,
she's so busy. If Kendall Jenner has a house that's
like Grandma chic with lots of like dark and rich
(26:50):
colors and patterns and expression, like, maybe that's her way
of standing out in her family, or her way of
like nesting, and.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Who fucking knows who cares.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Like it's just funny that someone will come in and
criticize someone else's choices. Also in twenty twenty six, when
everyone's supposed to be able to be free and express yourself,
when we don't judge and all body types and everybody
gets surprised and everybody gets a metal and size doesn't matter.
You could be big, you could be small, you could
like any type of food, you could be from anywhere.
(27:22):
You could be tall, you could be short, you could
be Latin, you could be Asian, you could be anything.
But you're not allowed to have your own personal taste
and what you wear, eat like people will make fun
of what you eat. I've had people that get mad
o the way I made it for me, I'm eating it.
So Kendall Jenner is going to be criticized for her taste.
(27:42):
There's no I don't look at her house because I
need to like it for myself. I look at her
house because I want to know what she chose as
a self expression of a person who we've seen since
she was a little kid on a show with her sister.
At times overshadow her with her being one of the
most famous women in the world, with their other big
(28:03):
sister become a billionaire, Like, well, how did you express
yourself in your home and how is it different than
how you expressed yourself last time? And how did you
express yourself with a met gala with what you wore
or to your kid's birthday party that you went over
the top or under the bottom? Like people are just
fucking insane. I give Megan Markle a lot of credit
(28:25):
for her Netflix show. I have not seen it, but
my friend sent me a clip of her putting an
old like vintage scarf on a wine bottle and then
adding to it some holly, and like, I thought that
was a decent idea. I think it's uninspired to give
a wine bottle and I think like elevating and glowing
up a wine bottle, which I do with like fur
bags or ad coasters or a canda. I don't know,
(28:47):
like she's just doing shit that she does and then
people now and I know, listen, I've had my opinions
on Megan Markle and some of her choices, but I
think her wine bottle and wrapping it in a nice
scarf is not the worst idea I've ever seen. And
she's just expressing ship that she doesn't like. So yeah,
that's I guess what I have to say today as
we talk about the holiday season.
Host
Bethenny Frankel
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