Eat The Fish & Spit Out The Bones w/ Queen Naija

Episode 1 of Season 8 is here !!

In this powerful and personal episode I sit down with the multi-talented Queen Naija for a real conversation about growth, grace, and glowing from the inside out.

We talk about so much from body image, to the pressure to be perfect, mom guilt, and learning to love yourself at every stage. We talk therapy, fasting from social media, honoring our faith, and how she’s shifting the way she shows up as a woman, artist, and mother.

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Episode Transcript

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(01:01):
get into today's conversation, Calling all.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
My sweeties to the forefront.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm your host, christ and this is the Keeping Positive
Sweetish Show. Sweetie, I truly hope this season of impact
is enhancing you all. I have learned so much from
our guests this season, and I'm so grateful to be
able to share all these conversations with you. Y'all know
we do not gate keep around here. We are all

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in this to learn, love and grow together. Today's guest
is the Queen of Real Talk, raw vocals and relatable lyrics.
From YouTube star to R and B chart topper. She's
given us music that feels like a page out of
our own journals, and we love her for it. She's beautiful, bold,
and always brings the vibes. Sweeties, please give.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
A warm welcome to the one and only Queen Nausea. Hi, Love,
how you doing? I'm good? How are you do?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I know that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm so happy we finally made this happen.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
You hit me probably a couple of months ago on
Instagram saying how you love the podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
And one thing I will say.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
About you and the short times I've known you, is
that you have this beautiful spirit of humility. And you
were like, I love your podcast, and I was like,
oh my goodness, I want to have you on all
the things. You're like, I'm just glad you know who
I am, and I'm like and it was so beautiful
for you to be so known to still say I'm
just glad you know who I am. It was like
I was like, this girl has a beautiful spirit, and

(02:27):
I'm like, of course I know who you are.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I go for it a lot because I'd be in
my little bubble, so like I be feeling like I
don't really know who know me or not.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I never want to be that person like you should
know who a you know what? Correct? But I knew it.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I was like, you know how like you see people
name Papa mean like what I'm like, Oh, my goodness,
because I admire your work. So it just it really
felt good to know that you actually saw the podcast
and you enjoyed it, and I'm so excited to have you.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
On today here.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yes, so let's get into it. So you are from Ipsilante, Michigan, y'all.
I didn't know how to pronounce it at first, Like
how do you say this?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
I was born there, and then pretty much I just
since I was until I was six, I stayed there,
but I.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Kind of been everywhere around Detroit.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I lived in Detroit before, so that's why people usually
say she from Detroit. But like, yeah, I've been all
over the outskirts, the n skirts, side skirts.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
That is funny.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
And then you became known through your YouTube five million subscribers.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, like when you started, did you think that it
would get that big?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
So I kind of.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Had two youtubes where I had my I had my
old YouTube where well my first YouTube when I did
it with someone else and that was more like a
couple's vibe. And then once I broke off into my
own space, I had already had my fan base, like
people who genuinely had liked me. But then once I
started showing me my like just queen alone and just

(04:01):
like well I didn't really do music that much then,
but I had already built the fan base with my
personality and things like that. So once I dropped my
song like they was already behind it.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah that's I love that.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I love that they called you the Let me make
sure I get it right because I don't want to
misquote it, the first soul star of social media generation.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
When they say that, what like that's huge.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
I mean, you know, you just said I got a
lot of humility, So I feel like, what, okay, So
I'll accept that. But yeah, I mean maybe because you
don't get I guess you don't get too many people
coming from YouTube in that sense of just like vlogging
and stuff. Right, you do have people who started singing
on YouTube, like the Bailey Sisters and like Justin Bieber,

(04:47):
they started they were singing on there, but me, I
was just I was nothing, really just singing.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I was just being I was doing crazy stuff like
you know. So I love that. How much of that
crazy stuff is really you?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Like you did put it out there.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Pretty much all of it.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
But I'm gonna be honest, like just over time, I
was probably like twenty two on there. So just with
gross it's up. It's a lot of things. I don't
do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, when I was younger, no, for sure.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
But I still got that side. I still can be outlandish.
I'll be trying to contain it in certain areas like
right here, so I'm trying to keep it very cute
and classy.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Sweetie. I love it.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
You are funny though, be yourself. I love that now.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's what makes you unique, it makes you you, and
that's what people fell in love with. So I love that.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
We both are very active on social media and we
were talking offline about just how people can make you
look at yourself differently.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Like you said, I didn't even notice until somebody pointed
it out.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And I was telling you how there's this one girl
that always like talks about how big my nose is.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yes, so worried, so worried, And recently I was looking
at it more and more and I was like, well,
maybe I should get plastic surgery.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I know is done.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
And you were like saying, like, people make you look
at things that you never paid attention to.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
No, that I never cared about any angle of my face,
like putting on makeup before get on video. I didn't
care about that stuff until I started being in a
public eye. People really point out your flaw. And the
worst part about it is like if you already feel
that way, it just magnifies it even more.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Absolutely, Yeah, what are some things that you had to
like overcome being in that space and just even a
bout self esteem Because I dealt with body dysmorphia, I
felt like I just didn't look like everybody else.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I was like, this is what the men want.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't look like that, you know, because there's so
many opinions out there that are being thrown at us.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I dealt with body dysmorphia really. Sometimes I still deal
with it. I've gotten a lot better with it though,
Like I used to obsess over being one hundred and
thirty five pounds, like I have to be that, but
maybe I'm still close to one sixty.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Look, and I just thank you.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
I just learned to accept it, like honestly, like I'm
about to be thirty, so I feel like I should
just love myself and whatever shape that I'm in, and
you know, to be able to put myself in check
me like, girl, you gotta go to the gym, like
it's time. I've been eating cinnamon rolls and cookies and
stuff like that, so I know it's time to tone
it down.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I've just learned to, like.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I guess really just say to myself, queen, you're never
gonna be perfect, Like You're never gonna be perfect, so
just get with what you get with what your guy.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know what I'm saying. Sometimes people will.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Do surgery over and over just trying to get that
perfect look. Yes, and I have done surgery before too,
Like yeah, I had like life bow and that I
had to BBO and stuff like that, and I'm just like,
it's still not the way I want, But you can't
keep risking your life to go under the table. So
I'm like, look, if I got point hips, I just
got accepted. We're gonna have some point of hits. We

(07:51):
still look good though, you.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Look very good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, I get it. I get And it's a real thing.
And I think a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Don't understand when we decide to be vulnerab and put
ourselves out there, we're not also opening up ourselves for attacks,
you know. And it's like it plays a part of
our mental health, our securities. And I'm just like, why
does everybody have to like point everything?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
And so if I go look at who's talking, I'd.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Be like, ma'am, and most of the hide and behind us.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
I'm like, baby, we all don't have no room to
talk now, come on, Like, but you know, I try
to keep it cute.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't try to clap back and stuff that much.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
But all I'm gonna say is people definitely they know
how to point out someone else's stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
And that's so true.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I think I came to that same realization that these
are unhappy people that are behind computers hiding that aren't
happy with their selves, so they have to.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, one thing that I said was, like, happy people,
if you're so busy being happy, you shouldn't have time
to like be being negative. No, you don't have time
because I'm not always the happiest. But I just know me,
I could even if I wasn't known or whatever, Like
I can't. I wouldn't be able to go online and
type a comment under somebody's stuff to make them feel worse,

(09:07):
and they might already feel because I'm just trying. I'm
too busy trying to be happy myself, right.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, or get back to happy. That's so true.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I've never been like that. I've never been like that.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Has there ever been a moment where you posted something
or vlogged something you like I shouldn't have did that?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yes, really plenty of times, but like that's all trial
and error, you know. Yeah, Yeah, those were good learning
experiences for me, because like now I just i'm I'm
I know how to filter things a little bit better,
unless like I'm just in a super unfiltered Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh, like like I started twitch and you know that
was twitch.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
I haven't gotten all this fun, but I'm gonna tell
you it's dangerous. You really got to watch it because
it's live. You gotta watch what you say because they
will literally clip the small They will clip the smallest things,
and the next thing I know, I'm all over on
TikTok and they got a whole narrative made up about something.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So but I do like it. It's fun.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I feel like I get to be myself more. I
don't have to worry about edits and stuff as much.
But definitely, yeah, that that's gonna help me exercise filtering.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I love that you have shared on social media that
you are interested in on a gospel album, and I've
seen you singing gospel songs. You started in church, that's
when you found your voice. When did you know, like,
oh wait, I can sing, man.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
So I grew I probably around probably around three or four.
Like I grew up in church and stuff. My grandma
used to have me go up there and sing no
Weapon song. So I do know that my voice. A
lot of people be like, Queen, make a Godspel album
right now, stop R and B and you know Lord
is coming back and things.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like that, and I'd be like because he is so convicted.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Like oh, but and I also grew up in like
that very like religious kind of vibeor of the prophets
were coming, like your voice is for the lords, don't
use it for but as I means, y'all can see,
I'm doing R and B. So that has always been
like a struggle with me, but I have learned over
time it's more so like I'm just trying to get

(11:14):
my relationship right with God so that I could hear
from him directly, so he could tell me when he's
ready for me to stop doing R and B, because
I can't say that he hasn't used me even during
doing R.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
And B, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
And I do feel like there is going to be
a point in time where he might tell me, Okay,
it's time to it's time to do you know, I
don't know completely worship music or it's time. I feel
like how I come that is going to be way different.
It's going to be different from just a traditional gospel.
So I do plan to do that, but I just
know once I do it, like it's going to take

(11:48):
a lot of consecration being set apart. I'm not trying
to be dibbling dabbling doing this and that when I
do that, because I want it to be very like.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Genuine, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, and honorable to him.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'm working on music and I had already recorded some
songs and I was telling my manager.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
We had went to Woman Evolved last year and Big.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
West is probably like one of the few guys in
the arena. And Sarah Jakes had me out there for
a panel that she was doing, and first I.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Didn't feel like I belong there.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'm like, like me, like, I don't know if I'm
like I don't know if I'm like the one, you know,
or qualified to be on this stage speaking to all
these women about my relationship with God that I'm still
working on right and you know, like and I'm at
that point, I was still like straddling the fence and like,
you know what I'm saying, still in the world, doing
my thing, and and she was like no, she said,

(12:40):
people need to see you because you're where a lot
of people are, you know what I'm saying. But you're
bringing people closer, you know, because they're like that. Some
people can't look at her at Sarah Jack's probably.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like and be like, yeah, might feel like it's too
far from them.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
But she's like when they see you, it's like Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's relatable and they feel like they feel like it's doable.
Yes exactly. Yeah, yeah like that because.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
You can't I always say too, like, you can't just
reach people that's already in church. You've got to reach
the people that's outside, the people that might be in
a club. But that's the thing too, Like I be
so conflicted with that sometimes, like I don't That's why
I just gotta really walk close with guy, because a
lot of times people in church can discourage you too,

(13:24):
like yeah, yes, they were like, you ain't doing this.
It's the thin line I feel like between being super
judgy and also just you just gotta do things with
love men And.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
What did he say?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
The greatest of these is love love.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
People forget to lead with that.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, they forget to and then they run people away.
So you got to meet people where they are sometimes.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's so true. Yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I told Wes, I was like, we've recorded all these songs,
but I just feel like I don't want to push
people to do things that's gonna make them sing, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I was like, music is a portal. I said, I
have to be careful what I'm putting.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Out because I know certain songs I listen to maybe
want to be promiscuous, you know, so like I wake
up that little demon you know down yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Like oh yeah, that makes me want to real quick exactly.
I was like, wait, did guys say we can't be here?
Did you say that?

Speaker 4 (14:15):
You know? And then I'll be thinking in my hair
like well, you know, this is for my future husband.
I trying to dumb it down, like this.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Is this is gonna I'm just getting prepared, prepare.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah that is so funny. But yeah, like we were
having those conversations at first. He was like okay, and
I was dodging the studio. He kept saying we got
to get back in, we got to get back in, and.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I was like, yeah, I completely.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I'm like, I gotta find that voice in that lane
and really hear from God.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
What is it that you want me to sing?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because like you, I don't feel like it's straight gospel music,
you know. And I was talking to a friend of mine,
pastor Brenda Palmer, and she was like Crystal, she said,
look at Major, look at Stevie Whitney all these great artists.
She was like, the music wasn't bad, it was just secular,
but it makes you feel good.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
It's music that's.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Real life experiences too. That that's what I'd be talking.
My thing is, I can't go super rounchy. Once I
started going super UNCHI and be like, all right, I
can't convicted.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
There's been a couple of songs that I made.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
I'm like, dang, but but like you know, as long
as I don't go super I'm like, wait, this is
just experiences, real life. But I know that I can't
just use my voice only for that, because like when
am I gonna edi fly God?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
When am I going to glorify God?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You know?

Speaker 4 (15:22):
And I don't want this to be one of those
situations where we at the gates and God like, baby.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Why don't you use your voice again that I gave you? Well, God,
I thought I had more time, Like I don't, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
You on my street because recently I've been hearing him
more and more, and I just look at what's going
on in the world. And even when I was a kid,
my mom's like, we're living in the last days, living
in the last days, and I'm like, no, something different now,
I'm like, you're coming any day now, like, and I
was like, I just want to be ready. And every
day I'm talking to God, I'm like, God, I just
want to honor you and everything I do.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I know I'm not perfect, but you know I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
It was my prayer just in the car before I
got here. I really was friends.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I swear I was talking to God. I was like, God,
I know I'm not perfect. I know I can't be,
but help me, please desire what you want me to desire.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Because I don't want to want what's contrary to what
you want. And I really don't want to get I
don't want to get left here neither.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
And all this stuff that's on the news, I try
not to watch, like the news and stuff. I'm looking
at everything. The Bible is really unfolding, and I'm like, dang,
do I make this album? Do I put this out?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Like I don't want to focus on like too much
on myself. I mean, I don't know how long we got.
That's real. And I don't want to scare people either,
but it's also.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like I need but it is like I'd rather scare
them than for me and not to say hey, do better,
and then they weren't scared enough and they end up
going to hell. You know what I'm saying, when something
that we say could have changed their mind or changed
their trajectory to be like, let me get in the word,
let me find an intimate relationship with God myself.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I'm working, Yeah, me too, daily daily.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's hard.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
It's it's really not easy, especially with everything around.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
But yeah, I was talking to another girl and we
were talking about how it's not easy, but having your
tribe when people I've noticed, like friends falling off who
aren't on the same path as I am, or kind
of distancing themselves because you feel awkward when you're like
when you're around somebody who's really trying to pursue God
or Jesus Christ, and then they're like, I'm still trying

(17:17):
to be so they kind of distance.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, you gotta kind of let them distance. You know.
That's probably God. Yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
But I do have a talking about the tribe. I
have a like a I go to this private church
that's more so online because I feel like trying to
go in purchase.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
It's a little hard, it is.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
But I've been going there for like three almost four
years and they really helped me. They really keep me
accountable and things like that. Before that, I wasn't going
to church.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, I felt very convicted, like I say, because it
was like a year that I didn't go to church,
and that was because the church I was going to
it was some scandals happening and it just kind of
me away.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I was like, yeah, and I'd be feeling bad for
stuff like that too, because I feel like churches that
go through those scannels and think it run a lot
of people away. But I also be wanting those people
to understand that we're looking at humans here.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's the same.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, I always say that that's a human being, just
like we are, just of anointing.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
We both have annoyance.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
We still mess up every day.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
So you can't just let that run you away from
church and be like, well, I don't want to serve
God no more.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I might as well just do this.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
You need to eat the fish and spill the bones
and you know, or find ask God to help you
find somewhere else to go, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I just kind of no, that's real though, No, I
want that You're exactly right now. I remember calling. I
called somebody and they said the exact same thing. They said, Crystal,
they are human just like we are. They are like
look at some of the disciples. God chose them, but
they weren't without flaw. Yeah, cut off that man, ear ma'am.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
A lot of us want to cut off some ears,
you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, And the people he chose were not perfect people.
And even after they started following him and walking with him.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
They were with Jesus.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
We didn't have that luxury to be in the flesh
for him. You know, he's with us in spirit. But
if they're still messing up, I mean he knows. Yeah,
I can't imagine.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
But yeah, that is so true.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
And I love that you do have some type of
congregation that you can They can hold you accountable, that
you can be you have a shepherd that can lead
you as well. That's so important, because girl, we be
lost out here with so many influences.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah, especially in our industry.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, and you got to pay attention. You can't like
always accept everything from everyone.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
We'll talk about it. They have like just one.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Source, yes, because we get we can get confused, dis.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, because everybody's like the universe and the stars in
line and all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I'm like, listen, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
And I'll be trying to be like, man, I want
to knock you, but like at the same.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Time, I'm not going to allow for that, and I
don't like be like no, this is but I kind
of like be an example in my life so that
they can see like, okay, wait, wait there is something
to this Jesus guy, Like, let me look into this,
let me let me try to read and study up
on him and learn for yourself.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I tell everyone, don't take my word for it, you know,
and when you start reading that Bible, it really he
convicts you on things. He opens your eyes to things,
and then a lot of times you see what you
were being taught wasn't even right. People are manipulating the
scripture and you're like, wait, that is not even.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
What there it's church sayings that they got that. I'd
be like that's wait yeah for years and that was
never in the Bible.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yes, but yeah yeah at my church. I got to
change church.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
And doctor Darius always said, he goes, this is in
the Bible, and he's like, read it for yourself. And
he gives a study plan so that we can like
take the sermon and then actually study it for ourselves.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Baby there, everybody else there?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, wait on the plane.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yes, yes, the producer, yes, yes, she goes.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, so beautiful visit one day, Yeah, come on and
we have It's a way that they want us to
be able to have a place to worship because a
lot of us don't go to church because people asking
for pictures, there's certain things. So they make it to
where we can get the word and then get home.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
That Yeah, yeah, I know that.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
When I used to live in Houston, I try to
go to this old school church because I grew up
in a very like old school Pentecost College church. And
I tried to go on time and I'm like they recorded.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'm like, oh no, that's praise and worship.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
They allow people to go to like the altar so
that you can actually so you can actually.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Like praise and dance and sing with the fire.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
And one guy like had his phone up and then
like he put it down and then like you know,
he turned around and he saw me his phone's going
up and he's like and I'm like, are you serious
right now?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Like what are we doing.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, don't worry about me. You need to be worried
about the Lord. You know, about the wrong thing, sir. Yeah,
but no, Yeah, definitely let.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Me know when you want to come. Yeah, I love
to have you. Yes, I love that.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I feel like I went to the I brought my
kids to the They had some sort of harvest things.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yes, the Bounty House. Yeah, we do so many things
for the community like we have.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
It's I love on church. It's not just about coming
and getting the word. It's about how we can impact
the community. You talked about not saying yes everything, and
same thing with me with Roles. I take what are
some things that you had to say no to In
the industry, I'll be like, yep, nope, I have a
boundary here.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm not doing that well.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I know when I first came out and I first
had my my craziest buzz, like after medicine, I was
doing this, I was doing this shoot for Vivo and
it was just like a lot of we went up
this mountain in La It was I think it was
I didn't know at the time.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
It was like Marilyn Manson's mansion that he was running
out and that whole day. I was feeling crazy.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
It's on one of my blogs. I was feeling so
crazy that day. And I remember the night before I
had I don't know if you ever experienced this, but
I had sleep paralysis the night before and I remember
hearing it. But it was different this time, Like the
night before, I heard all these screams in my ear.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
I don't know, so when you were staying in that house.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
No, not the house, but this was the night before
we had the shoot, and I was in my hotel room.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
And then the next day I just felt uneasy.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Right, So we get up to this mountain and we're
about to shoot and I'm putting on all these you know, dresses,
and it was just a content piece for like some
songs I was performing live, and they had like certain
they had like I don't want to like say everything,
but they had certain things that we could have been
in the camera that I felt maybe they didn't. I

(23:45):
felt symbolized certain things and I was like, huh, take
that out.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yes, like I was. I think I got into this
and I still don't know what it means. But this
empty pool that it was like a smaller pool though,
so it kind of.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Reminded me of a baptism pool, but it was emptied
and have water in it. Had like this statue next
to me, but the statue was beheaded.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
It didn't have a head on it. It was just
very evil. Yeah, I was like, get that out of here,
like can we move this?

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Like a lot of times they be like, oh, this
is for art and things like that, but to me,
it's like you gotta.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Be careful because they be putting stuff in there has
another meaning.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, Like I don't know what this means, so I'm
not gonna do it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
And I feel like maybe that's I don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Sometimes I'm like, well, maybe that's the reason why I'm
you know, I'm just being in my own bubble and
I maybe feel like I haven't gotten.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
A certain heights or whatever yet. But that's cool. I
stand stay.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
True to myself, yes always, yeah, yeah, gotta continue to
keep blessing me.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So yeah, but yeah, it's been little things.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Like that, like.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's in our industry. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Everything don't gotta be dark all the time, right, Like
why is it gonna be so dark?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
You're not going through enough darkness in.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
REALI we need some light. We do.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So, yeah, that's good. You took a break in twenty
twenty two. What made you want to step back and
just say, let me just take a minute in.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Twenty twenty two? Was this after I did a tour.
I did Mary J. Bliges tour opened up for her
in twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I probably took a break after that because I probably
felt like I was doing a lot and I really
just wanted to focus on my family, my kids.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I feel like I was just an apsent mom. I
had that mom guilt. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah, so I just felt like I needed to get
my house in order that sense, I just wanted to
be a mom again. I have these like huge spans
of like being a mom and then being and.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I don't want to say celebrity, but being a singer. Yeah, yeah,
being a singer.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Being a singer comes with a lot, Like I'm about
to start gearing up to drop a project and so
I know I'm about to be really busy, and I've
spent time with my kids and things like that, so
now it's time.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
For me to be on the road. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, And those moments where you're feeling momy because I'm
not a mother in those moments like what are you feeling?
And what what kind of toad does it take on
your emotions?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I just feel, I just I have little thoughts in
my head, like man, what if what if they have
a resentment towards me when I when they get older?
And you know, sometimes like how you think you'll some
parents would think they're doing so good and then when
their kids grow up, it's like, Mom, I went through
trauma because of this and that that's real, and I'd
be like, wait, I thought I did. I thought I

(26:29):
did my best. Like I That's the kind of things
that I think about. So I try to balance it
out as much as I can, because I don't want
that from my boys. I don't want to say, Mom,
you weren't there and the babysitter had to raise me
and this and that. I'm just like, but I was
doing this for you and like I wanted you to to.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know, it could It's it's definitely a lie, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
I mean, but I was thinking too, like even if
I just had a regular nine to five, I still
would be away from my kids too. So it's just
one of those things where I got to continue to
pray on.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
How to balance it all out.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you, now that you've kind
of gotten past that, have you found a way to
balance both?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah? I think.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
I think I just need to know when to stay
home and even know when it's time to go work.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
And I've been staying home a lot lately, so that's good.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
But to the point where it's like, Okay, queen, you
gotta go get back out there and sing and stuff.
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
You said that being a singer takes a lot.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
What are some of the things that people may not
know that go into getting ready to put out an album,
getting ready to go on tour.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
People think you could just for for putting out a project.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
People think you can just go to the studio, record
a song, do a one take and put it out.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
No, not like that.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Like they don't understand even once you're done recording a song,
They're like, what's taking so long? All the paperwork and
things behind it. You got you gotta make sure that
it's cleared and the producers and people agree with their
splits and things like that, and sometimes the lawyers take
back and forth communicating with each other, and it just
it takes a long time, so you know, you can't
just and then after that, after all that's done, you

(28:15):
have to roll it out to where it's like it
can be market well so people can like it can
be in everyone's face. So like that's really people just
don't know, like even going to record a song, like
I had recently showed myself recording a song live and
they were like, wow, I have a whole different respect
for recording artists because we literally do takes over and

(28:38):
over again to get it right. I probably do about
fifty takes to make sure something is right, and like,
it's just not that easy. And then getting prepared for tour,
maybe you gotta go to the gym before that and
make sure you can breathe walking on the stage like yeah,
and then I'm naturally not a dancer, so I gotta
get some choreography, some movement, you know, to be able

(28:59):
to Yeah, I feel like I'm rambling now, but.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
No, that's it's good because people.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I feel like people don't understand that even with acting
the takes that we do, but I find getting in
the music booth and singing and doing all those takes
more annoying because my producers are like again, again, again again.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I'm like really yeah, but that be me on my
own self.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, I'd be like it sounded good in my ear.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, that was me.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
I was working with who Beer, like not too long ago,
when I was in Miami and I was and I
asked you for the link.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I was like, I was in the studio and he
was like and I was like, nope, get it again,
get it again.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
That'd be me on my own self, and it was like,
you just got it right, and I'd be like, nope again.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
It's not something was off.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, so like that, I'm like a super perfectionist.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
When it did you like study music?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Oh okay, because that sounds like somebody who like, no,
I heard something, something's off.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I always hear things that people don't hear.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
I hear when something's all key, when something is flat
in the slightest way.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's a gift.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
And I'd be like, wait, no, nudge that over because
that's too early. Like I don't know why I ain't
going to school Ford or anything. My brain just knows how.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, No, that's a gift from God. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yes it is.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I love that now and I love that you brought
them into the studio with you. Yeah, because people don't understand.
Are you like an early studio gir or do you go.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
At night time?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
You know what? I used to go at night, but
I realized I'm tired. Yes, so it's a saying girl,
I hate night sessions. Yeah, so I started.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
I started like just starting early in the afternoon until
the evening.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah. I still have that time to get back to
my kids too, right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Some guys like they literally, oh yeah, I just love
to see on this more. I'm like, what, Yeah, that's crazy, y'all.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'm home.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I gotta go home. I gotta sleep.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah. Would you say you are you enjoyed the studio
more or being live on stage?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I would say I really, I really love.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I used to actually say I hate it being like
doing live, But when I'm at my tours, the energy
that I feel for my supporters, like singing my music backs,
that is so fun good. It's so like I do.
Like I like being on tour. I like doing live stuff.
But if it's a crowd that I know is not
really used to me, I'll be a little nervous.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
What was it like opening up for Mary Well?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Like huge?

Speaker 4 (31:22):
It was it was amazing, Like I'm just so happy
and thank you to Mirror again forgive me the opportunity.
But it was a lot of I guess older people
in the crowd, you know, so I was like, I
ain't gonna know who I am. But turns out like
it was a lot of people there in the beginning
for the opening, and I did gain a lot of
I get a lot of new supporters and new demographics.

(31:43):
I was even looking at the people who was coming
to my meet and greets and it was different people
of all like cultures. I was like, oh, ok, you
know who I am, so you know, yeah, I always
do that.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
But it was really it was really fun.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
But in the beginning, like I said, I was nervous
because you got those people that sit in the front
that they there for Mary.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
They're not trusting nobody else.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
They're just in the front just like they just sitting down.
Come on, get up.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
And it's hard to try to hype the crowd up
because I like to feed off, you know, energy.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
It's a dance that you do with your audience. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
But I have learned also to like, you just gotta
hype yourself up. You got dancers, you know, feed off
of their energy, but like you gotta know how to
be the hype.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
What is something that you can share that you learn
from working with Mary and being on the road with
her just as a professional.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Mary, it was just you know what crazy thing is
we were We didn't like run into each other a
lot often because we were so busy, like trying to
get ready for the show. But at the end of
the tour we did have a we did have a
little party for and then I sat next to her

(32:55):
and was talking a little bit, but the music was loud,
so we couldn't talk a lot. But I just remember
her saying to me, like, take your time. She was
just saying take your time. I don't know if she
if she meant in relationships. I don't know if she
meant but look at me, like take your.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Time, don't rush. Yeah. I was just like, okay, I'm
a yeah, been through some stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
She can definitely give you advice on that is there
in growing in this industry. What are some of the
lessons that you've learned about yourself or like just about business,
because I know a lot of times when you're new
to this. You went from YouTube to be in this
breakout star where everybody knows who you are.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
What are some things that you learned?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Well, I want to say the most the biggest thing
that I probably learned was how can I say this
when it I hate I hate saying this, but like
when it comes to business, you can't think about people feelings.
It's not about being And I'm a very nice person.

(33:59):
So a lot of times in the past I have
like inconvinced myself for other people, even like people that
like I work with. Yeah, just inconvincing myself a lot
and just trying to I want to make sure everybody
is straight. But at the end of the day too,
you can't be too much of a pushover to I've

(34:20):
learned that in the business because when you're not like
stern about something like people will try to, you know,
run over you or like control things like that.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
So that's something I'm still working on as far as.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Being a business woman, like just really being that balance
between being stern but not being that person.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
It's like, I don't not like working with her, right
and there's a way where exactly you don't want that.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, I'm very I have people around me, and that's
what I love about me and Wester's relationship where I
can be honest with him, where sometimes you're afraid to
say what's really on your mind because you don't want
to hurt that feelings or people are sensitive, and it's like,
I really just want to say what I want to say.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
It's like, no, say what you want to say.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I can say it to him and then he can
be like, all right, got it, let me fix it.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, it's good because I can't do that with everybody,
you know, because I will be a bee you know,
to them, even though it's no, no. This is a
woman who's passionate about her business and she knows what
she wants.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
She's very sure of herself.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
If a man did it, it'd be like, oh, given,
But when a woman does it, you know, it's it's different.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
So they said the same thing on the Poor Minds
podcast about how like how like women usually get the
people don't really take them as serious.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, So I appreciate having a man who has my
bag to say, hey, not say what you need and
if I'm like yo, Wes, I'm not with it, or
why didn't he say you know what, I got it.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
You're absolutely right. It's never like a.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Matter to like having a really good manager and having
like yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Different, No, it matters, yeah, because if you don't have that,
if you're not able to to express yourself, things just
don't get done the way you need it to. And
this is this is your business, your brand that you're
building and that I'm building. And I think it's a
way to make sure people know that they're appreciated, to

(36:09):
treat people with respect, but to also demand that respect
and know that hey, when she comes in, like it's
time to work, because she's gonna work with us, you know,
and I always I'm in the field with them, like
I'm never like, okay different.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Really yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
I'm just because because I recently just over time, like
you know how sometimes you got to get a different
team and stuff. So my last manager was a woman,
and like she was, she was great, but like I noticed,
like a lot a lot of times she had to
work a little bit harder, you know, to get things
done because you know, old women. But my new manager

(36:44):
now is a man, and I just it's just different.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's just really it's sad too that like and women
have to be harder. They have to go harder to
get that same thing that a man can walk.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
In like, oh, yeah, I got this.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm like that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, we have to change.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, we got it.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
No, seriously, I think for me, one of the biggest
things that I've had to learn and still learning is
when you have a good team, you don't have to
control everything because like I know how one thing's done
and if it's not done.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
A certain way.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I'm very meticulous in.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Type A, so I'm like, Okay, I hear y'all, I'm trying.
So I take time to like go away and I
don't call them. I just make sure you're good, y'all.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Got everything you need?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
All right?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
And I know they'd be like, thank god, go to
Miami and leave.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Us something that means.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
That was so me too, like Okay, what's happening, Like
I want to have my hand and everything. But yeah,
when you have a good team, you don't have to,
but you have to because everybody know their role.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, and they should also learn you to know what
you will exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, but not saying take your hands completely off because
it's still your baby.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
And yeah, at the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
No one.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I don't care how much they love you and love
your brand, no one's gonna treat it like you would
treat it. So it's still like making sure that you're
on top of it and whatever. I like to make
sure that I can do what everybody else is doing.
When we dropped our merch, I think it was in December,
that's like we got to like, no, I want to
learn Shopify. I want to learn make sure I know
how to do this, like where's this going, how much
tax is coming out?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
What we're doing.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I wan to make sure we're doing everything right.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
And I made sure I brought on the right people
that if I didn't know, they could teach us. But
if nobody else is here, I know how to pack
it up and ship it and print it and get
it out here, you know. And it's yeah, it's so impressed.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
It so important because that's where I was in the
beginning of my career, just kind of letting every everybody
take the lead, and.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I'm just like, oh, well, I'm just here. And I
was always like not.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
I was always like under the assumption that you just
you just be the artist, you just make the good music.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Know I actually got to know a lot what's going on,
know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, I took that from b I say, like when
she fired her dad, and that's what actually helped me.
I had a shout out Sean Finny, my brother, he's amazing.
We had lunch one day and I was trying to
figure out a restructuring situation within my company and he said, Sis,
Beyonce fired her dad and.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
And I said, wow.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I said, I'm sitting here worried about letting somebody go
that ain't my dad. How hard would that have to be,
you know, And the stances she took and how much
she believed in herself. She really inspired me to like
stand on my own two feet. And how she's like
very hands on. I'm like, that's how I want to
do it. And look how far she's gotten with it,
you know. So she's somebody shout out be She's someone

(39:39):
that I really look up to when it comes to
like really handling your business as a woman and being
respected in her And even with songs, how they were
like that's not a hit, that's not a hit, No,
take it back, and she was like and all these
what number one.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I was like, yeah, so I need to do that too.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yes, those songs came from your experience, is you know,
so the way you deliver them is what resonates with
your audience.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
So somebody else who may have.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Not gone through they're like, all, this ain't it, This
isn't hit, And then those be the ones that go, oh.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
My goodness, Yes, that's actually what I'm I'm not going
through anything right now, but that's what That's just a
situation I'm in right now, trying to figure out what's
gonna be my next single. Yeah, and I feel I
feel like I know this one single is like this
one right here, like they really gonna feel it. But
you know, sometimes being signed to a label, they'll look
at like what's most upbeat, or what seems most popular,

(40:31):
or what you know? And I and I do know
that they could know some things that maybe I don't know,
like what could cross over. But like when you know something,
you just got to push for, Like, no, this one
right here, we got to make sure we put this out,
even if it's not the first one exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, So I'm glad you're able to say no, we
got we gotta do this one. Yeah, you're being in
the studio. What is your creative process like, because everybody's
just different.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Everybody's I feel like mine has changed over the years.
I used to have to like I used to wake
up in the middle of the night and I would
hear melody.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Are you serious? Yes?

Speaker 4 (41:03):
And I'd be like, I hear melody, and I'm like,
or I could be anywhere. I could be on the toilet,
I could get it, I could be anywhere, and I
to hear a melody and then so I start just
singing melody and then I want to go make that
a beat.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
But really I'm a producer too. I just don't press
the button, but I be.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I tell the producers, like, put this instrument, and I'll
like get a pin in a paper or a pending
on the table, and I'll like beat and I'll do this,
and I'm like, make that into a beat.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah, But now I've had to open up a little
bit more and allow for people to send me like
certain beats, and then I'll.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Just go in there and I'll like mumble.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
I'll mumble and cadences that I that I like and
then fill it in with words. And I used to
completely be like, no, I don't want no writers. I
just want to write my own stuff. But I'm open
to writers now, like co writing with people. Even if
someone wants to give me a song, I tell them like, okay,
but I got to make it completely like like mine.
If I gotta switch up words, yep, I'll do. I

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never take something like fully.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
On utcase smart so yeah, because there's money and your
publishing and writing to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah I get that poop hello because if my voice.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Wasn't on it, yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
So yeah, so that's why I do.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
I just mumbo jumbo. And then sometimes like I will
have a uh.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
What is it, what's the word? I'll have a not scenario,
but a concept. Yeah, concept.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
I'll have a concept in my head, like it will
be a good song about so and so, and then
I'll be like, I'm gonna like just write about that.
But so my current manager, now I don't know if
you know, but his name is no Idea. He's taught
me yeah so yeah, So he taught me that a
good song can go on any beat. You just gotta
like have the conversations first, and then your song is

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right there in the conversation. Wow. So I've been working
on rather than just like writing words down trying to
make stuff rhyme. Like we'll like have a conversation first
in the studio and then next thing, you know, my
song is right there. Like we'll just talk, We'll get
to these deep talks about these things, write that down
and then it turns into a song that's fire.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Who are some people that you would love to work
with artists wise or yeah, or producer, because that's some
incredible producers.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
I've always I've never got a chance yet to work
with Pharrell. I think he's super dope. Is Yeah, it
would be nice to work with the Dream Uh.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
I haven't.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
I have yet to work with London on the track
we try to do something, but we didn't end up
we didn't end up making nothing.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
But that was like a while back. But like pretty much,
I'm down with.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Whoever want, like as far as artists, if they want
to work, then we could work. I kind of used
to have this like dream list of like people that
I wanted to collab with, but I don't really have
that anymore. It's just like, look, if we're gonna work,
we're gonna yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
If not, I can hold it on, you know, you can. Yeah, yes,
who've been some of your favorite people to actually clad
with that? She've already clad with Big Sean definitely, yeah.
Place who else have I worked with?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
That?

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Like Ella May she's a very she's very much a
girl's girl. Yes, and then I work with Mariah Write,
a scientist and we have a song coming out soon,
but that she's I just love girls girls.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I love people that are super genuine.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
I love people that check on you outside of the music,
like and I'm just thinking about you like her, she
she checks on me a lot. We haven't done a
song yet, but yeah, I just enjoyed those genuine.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
People, those gamin vibes. Na Taylor is dope. Yes, I
could go down the list.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, that's fire.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
When you talk about that.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I also would like to ask you when it comes
to where you see your music going?

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Is there?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Like I know we talked about gospel, is there?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Like?

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Do you like what else do you see yourself doing?

Speaker 4 (45:03):
I'm gonna be honest, I see myself getting nominated or
winning a Grammy, myself doing that. I gotta speak that.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I used to be like no, I don't care, no, no,
we can, we can and I don't know when is
gonna happen, but it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
And when it do, I want you to come right
back to this.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
We will said, Yeah, I know that I will end
up doing is it? Is it weird to say that
I don't really like the term gospel because I want
to run people away. I want to do like more
so Christian contemporary worship or Christian R and B fusion,
Like where has that sound that people want to listen
to but it's still talking and.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Real, real about God.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yes, but I know there's a lane for that.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
They have a lane I've seen. Yeah, it's really good.
I'll be working out to it. It's really good. Yeah,
I'm like, okay, this is about guy. Yeah, But I
do feel like.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
God is gonna take me to higher heights right now
where I am, even even in this R and B lane,
to where it's going to open up that like a
bigger fan base. So then when I do finally, you know,
cross over to that side, I'm bringing all them folks
with Yep.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
It's so funny you say that, because I've noticed a
lot of these like big stars are turning life over
to Jesus, and but they I'm talking about hundreds of
millions of followers and they're bringing.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Them and like I said, sometimes you got to go
get the people and meet them where they are, be
relatable with them.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yes, I mean that.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
I feel like that's what I'm doing right now. And
I'm not going to pretend. Like I said, I love
doing RMB music. I love the way it sounds and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
And not just R and B.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
I want to cross over to other things too, like
alternative and things. I just like different music. But I
know for a fact that once I gained that that
bigger fan base.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, you know, yeah, it's going to bring them over.
It happens, It happens. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
No, I'm sure that what our theme for this season
is impact. Yes, impact, And I want to ask you, what,
even with your music, what is something that you intentionally
do to make sure that you're leaving a positive impact
on your listeners.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I feel like I do that more so through my personality,
and I.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Was thinking that on your social media.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, I'm always talk about God.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
I'm sorry, I don't here. I know I go off
and joke around a lot, but I'm going to always
get a glory to God.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
And then just always.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Keep that radiant energy and positivity regardless of what I
may be going through. I always tell people to just
maintain a lot of people don't believe in being humble,
but I believe in staying humble and always being happy
for others and just just staying.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Consistent, yeah, and chasing Yeah, not chasing a dream, but
just staying consistent and trying to be trying to do
whatever it is that you would like to write. You know,
yes for sure. What do you do to protect your peace?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Because it's so much noise intry, especially when we're on
social media, It's like, yeah, what what do you do
to protect your piece?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Well, like I said, I have those people around that
keep me accountable, keeping that relationship like open with God.
But also I'm a big believer in therapy.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Come on, like therapy.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
A lot of people will be like against it, but
therapy has worked so well for me.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Oh, I need to schedule me an appointment. She just
hit me up.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
I'm like okay, But therapy is definitely a really good
And then just having that quiet time to yourself, Like I.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Don't I have this car that I just sit in
really yeah, I just sit in my car.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Sometimes like just get away from the noise. And sometimes
you gotta put down that phone. And I'm talking to
myself too. I'm not trying to contradict, but sometimes you
gotta put the phone down and delete the delete the
apps and just really like sit with yourself and do
something on the outside that you want to get, just
some piece.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
That's why I keep your.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Peace, because that phone is distracting.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
It is distracting. I'll find myself going back to Instagram.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I don't even want to go to here, girl.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I was telling somebody a few years ago, I fasted
from Instagram and my thumb was.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Still even I deleted the home and it was gone.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Like the app was gone, but my thumb was programmed
to I was like, this is It's.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Gotta be something in there. I was fasting.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
I was fast and too from social media and I
had deleted the app, and I'm like, where's it?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Wait a minute, you want to pass or like if
I didn't delete it, like my.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Thumb is still clicking. I'm like, wait, yes, that thing
is probably its own. Yes, yeah, it's really addicted.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Because we're so programmed to do it so long, you know.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, I put a time around my phone, like Instagram
has that.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
I do like that about the app. Sometimes for the day,
I didn't be like I'd be like ignored for the day.
They'll never know. Just look a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I'll do like the fifteen fifteen more minutes and I'm
like ignored for the day.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
That's like, I know it gets when once it gets
to a point where my head start hurting from looking
at this ground.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I'm like, Okay, now this is too much. What are
you doing? What are you doing? So? Yeah, that is funny.
I love that.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
So you have a new album coming out? Are you
able to share any information on it?

Speaker 4 (50:16):
So my my supporter is now my album is done
basically right, But I have this little contractual thing where
my my label said I got to put out an
EP first. So I am putting out an EP okay,
and it's amazing. I went to go that's what I
did in Miami. I want to go record it. And
it's like I was like, this is so good. I

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might have to go change some stuff on the album
because you know, yeah, the more that I grow and like,
I just keep making good music, I'm like so either way,
whether it's the EP single, whatever, album, whatever's coming out,
it's gonna be good. I'm really excited about it. So yeah,
it's gonna be rather soon too. Okay, well, we're definitely
gonna look out for it. Let our audience know where
they can find you so we can support you. Tap

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in and keep up with everything. Y'all can find me everywhere.
That's sound crazy, Queen Nija everywhere n A I j A.
And also make sure you guys follow my snapchat and
follow me on Twitch, because I be I'll be acting
a fool on air. Filter me not this one.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, that's so funny. Definitely tapping onto it, y'all. Queen Ageah,
thank you so much. I thoroughly enjoyed this. Yes it was.
It was, thank you, Thank you? Yes, all right, sweeties.
Today I am wearing a denim dress by Fashion Nova.
I love this dress because it is made of recycled jeans,

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so dope and innovative.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Shoes are by Docha and Gobana.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Earrings. You guys already know at this point, I'm both
taking Vanetta and Brace.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
It by van Cleef.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Now, wasn't that one of the most warm and down
the earthly conversations. I just love her She is so humble,
so real, and just full of grace. She reminded us
that you can shine and still stay grounded, and that's
the kind of energy we're always here for. Until next time,
y'all know what to do, stay kind, stay lifted, and
as always.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Keep it positive. Sweeties, See you next time.