August 24, 2025 • 54 mins
In this unforgettable episode you get an honest and vulnerable look into the life the one and only Ciara. She is GRAMMY Award-winning artist, entrepreneur, wife, and mom and we are still trying to figure out how she does it all.
Ciara opens up about living her life in chapters, with this season being one of gratitude. Join us as wee dive into love, faith, and family. This episode is inspiring, joyful, and full of gems you’ll want to replay again and again
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host,
Christoph and this is the Keeping Positive Sweetish Show. Hey, sweeties.
In this season, I have been so blessed to have
conversations with people who I've been impacted by, people who
have grown up watching and admiring. And today is truly
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going to be special. My guest today is a wife, mom, artist, actress, philanthropists,
just to name a few, kid's family. Please give a
very warm Atlanta Welcome to Sierra.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, how are you amazing?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You look amazing. Thank you so much to thank you
and thank you for coming.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh my gosh, let me just say, in all my
years that I've done interviews, I have never seen what
I just saw happen before we start our interview with
JB praying before an interview. Yes, that is amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Listen, we keep God first and everything.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Amen. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thank you. No, that's that's one of the things in
every thing we do, we always make sure we pray.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, it's the best way to kick off the day.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It is, no for sure. So I want to start
with a little story time. So just a month ago,
two months ago, the top of June BT Awards, we
were a BT Media house and they're like, Sierra's coming,
We're gonna get you an interview with her. I was like,
oh my goodness, Sierra is coming, so we see you come.
My little booth is right next to Angie Martinez's door,
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so I was like, all right, guys, I'm not taking
any interviews. So like as soon as she comes out
the door, we're gonna grab her. So you come out
and they're like, she has to go to another interview
and I got a quick picture with you and it
was so cute. Actually, Drea shot that. It was a
really beautiful picture of us. And I was like, it's okay,
we're gonna It's something else is gonna happen. God has
something better in store. And I really wanted to interview
that day, and now I have you here, and that's
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just how God works. So I was like I always
be looking out. I was like, come on, come on
your hometown. Yeah, this is I love it and Kaya
and depotated hit me and Kay was like yes, yes.
She was like you got to get here, like y'all
are perfect for each other, y'all have the same brand.
She loves God, you love God. She's like she's so
positive it'd be perfect. And then denvill has hit me
(02:06):
and she was like, we're gonna do it, and I'm like, yeah, no, Lie.
Before you came in, They're like, are you nervous?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And I was like, yeah, no, it's amazing, man.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, but she has so much going on. You are busy.
You just had the second you opened your second you
had your second annual Sierra Day, and then you opened
your second why not Center?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, that's like, no, it's amazing. So technically it's my
first time actually celebrating this holiday or this special day
that the state and the city, you know, granted me.
And I got to give thanks to Flana Williams because
she really spearheaded that. And I've noticed since I was
a baby at one point in time. She's my manager really,
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like she's known me since I was like literally when
I got signed to Aristis, she was a sign of
my project. Wow, so twenty plus years ago, because twenty
one years ago my album Goodies came out, so war
that came out, So I know I was like sixteen
wo or fourteen, fourteen, fifteen, anywhere somewhere in that place.
Fifteen to sixteen. That's when I met her, and so no,
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it was amazing because Russ and I we've always had
a vision with our wy Not You Foundation, and we
have a big vision to do a few things right,
and one of those things where to create centers for kids. Yes,
and we've been very fortunate in our partnership with the
Boys and Girls Club that we're able to put why
not You Centers and boys and some of the Boys
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and Girls clubs. We start off in Pittsburgh last year,
and then we both said that we have to make
sure we have the why not You Centers in the
places where we came from. Absolutely, because I mean, for me,
you know, I've always wanted to get back to my
city because I feel like the city has given me
so much, and you know this Atlanta is the city
that made me, you know, so my like next tier
of like growth and like leveling up is like giving
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back in my hometown. So yesterday was just the start
of that on Sierra Day, and it was to me,
it was the best way to kick off a day
like that, Like I really want, you know, every time
that I get a chance to celebrate this day, I
want to make it a day of impact. And it
was so sweet you know, giving the kids at the
Boys and Girls Club or why not you Center and
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dance Hall, and you know, there was the dancers that
came there and they were the first months to dance
in that space, and all the kids that go to
the Boys and Girls Club. It was just so much
great energy. It was so beautiful. Like I was so
touched and moved and just so thankful to God that
we can do stuff like that. Yeah, I want to
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do more and more of it. So that was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's amazing. You mentioned impact and that is actually the
whole theme of this season for the podcast, because we
inspire people, but what impacts are we leaving? So I
love that you are literally putting action behind your words
and doing that. That's so dope.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You also have a new album coming out entitled CC,
a new single with Lotto. So what you're having an
album called Cierra. What was the emphasis of CC?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now, Well, you know it's my nickname and a lot
of my fans have called me CC over the years. Yes,
and my family obviously calls me CC. And I feel
like when someone calls you by your nickname is personal. Yes,
And so I just I have a special connection with
my fans, and my fans are really the reason why
I am where I am today, you know, especially being
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an independent artist and running my own label, that is
the most vulnerable place you can be in and you
really don't know what's going to be like in those
independent waters. And my fans have showed me the power
of you know, who they are and what they mean,
and our relationship dynamic. You know. When I kicked off
Level Up and within one click of a button, you know,
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my song was crazy viral. Yes, and it's one of
my most viewed videos to date, and I'm so proud
because it's mine, Like I own that side, own the master. Yeah.
So on this album, I just really want to It's
like the chapter and season of gratitude for me. I
kind of live my life in chapters, you know, sometimes
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you have transitional chapters. Sometimes you just have, you know,
I just have. I just do life and chapters. So
this is the chapter of gratitude for me. I love
that and I just wanted to simply say thank you
to my fans. And I also had been when I
started this project. It was in the form of an
EP and there's songs like how We Roll on there
and ecstasy. They've gotten a little taste of d you know.
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But I had been also what's up with feature and
buster rhymes? So I've been putting out songs like that.
But I've been putting out songs along the way, and
it's like, okay, let me just stop giving them one
by one. Let me just give them this body of work.
And I have these amazing songs that I've been sitting
on and also creating, and now it's time to complete
the whole project. So I'm super excited about this album.
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It's a lot of energy, a lot of fun. My
goal is always to make the worlds yeah, and to
hopefully give inspiration where there is in love, where there
is in life in general war they just want to
feel good and just like have fun like all that's
on there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I love that you talked about ownership in owning your
your masters and owning the song when you were actually
in the studio doing level of did you realize like
that you really had a hit and it was like
this is gonna go? Did you know instantly?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I knew. I knew the song was a smash. I
really believed in it. It's funny because I was pregnant
as all get out with my daughter Sienna, like the
story of my life, Like I was pregnant. Yeah, uh well,
a lot of great things happen when I'm pregnant. Apparently,
absolutely No. I remember I had I was carrying Sienna
and jamming out with my friend Taran Eve. Yeah, who
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doesn't love to run?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Run so amazing?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
What's a gun?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But Tran, you know, we've known each other for years.
We've had great success together. Yeah. And he and I
were in the studio and I was like he had
said to me. He was like, CEC, there's this song
is like going crazy in the club. It's called it Up.
I don't like person, but he was like it's the
ef it Up Challenge and it's just like going crazy.
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And I'm like, He's like, I want to play it
for you because I think it'd be super cool. So
he plays it for me. He's like, you know, to
be a good inspiration. And I was like he's playing
and I'm like, oh, that's a vibe. And then I
started saying like level up, level up. But I knew
at that point when we were creating the record, I
wanted energy and I wanted to inspire through the song.
But I was very intentional about every line, like we
really walked through every line together to make sure that
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like every detail was buttoned up and really helping us
tell the story because that was the place that I
was in. But I knew when we finished that song
that it was special, to the point that when I
went to the label that I was signed with at
the time, because I was in a traditional label, a
traditional deal at that time, I went to the and
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it was a new CEO I had to represent to,
which is never fun, but you're still optimistic. So I
went to present to him and I'm like, there's a
song I have or this is a song I have
called Level Up. This is the visual I had the
visual as well that I had. Yeah, I said like
this is like I think this song's gonna be the next,
you know, big song for me, blah blah blah, and
(09:17):
he literally looked at me and was kind of like
it just fell on like deaf ears, like flat like
he just was like like okay, like very like just tonal,
like you know, flat tone, and he didn't see what
I saw, and that was like unfortunate in that moment,
but it was like one of the biggest blessings in
my life because literally, like that one day I had
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was like one of the most unfortunate days, but the
next day was one of the best days because I
decided I'm going to start my label. But I knew
that that song was special. And I've had moments in
my life and in my career from the very beginning,
whether it was Goodies or One two Step or just
certain songs, I'm like, this is going to be the song,
And in most cases, I've been right when I felt that.
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So I did believe in the record.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I love that in that moment when you're in that
conference room or in his office, what did it feel
like to be Sierra, the acclaimed artist that you are,
and for someone still not to believe.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And be like, oh my gosh. You know you know
what it does? It like helps you, Like, it motivates
me when people do that, you know, like I feel like, okay,
like you you're gonna wish that. You wouldn't have said no, absolutely, yeah,
you know that you're gonna wish that. So it really
motivates me. You know when that happens, and it's life like,
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it's perspective. I think some of the best of the
best are always gonna get someone's gonna try to knock
the best of the best down, you know, And that
motivates me too. When I see people that that inspire
me and I see how they persevere through people saying
you can't yes, you know, or saying it's not possible.
It's like, Okay, we're gonna find a way to make
the impossible possible. Like that's always my mentality. But I
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really believe that's why I always tell people, you have
to believe in yourself, you know, because if I didn't
believe in myself in that, I would have been so
discouraged and I would have given up. And you know,
I also say proudly like at that time, it was
like I really became a big girl, Like I became
a big girl really young in this industry because you
have to be. But I really was like I felt
so vulnerable. I'm like, oh my gosh, like I don't
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have this big system that I'm used to being in,
Like what's that going to be like? But you know,
like I said, it's one of the greatest blessings in
my life and in my career, and I feel more
empowered than ever. And the funniest thing of all of
that is that when I had, you know, when we
weren't seeing eye to eye, I asked for my master's
back and he gave it back to me for free.
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Like that's how you know, he didn't believe. But it's like, okay, God,
you got me, Like I'm gona trust this thing. And
I'm like, thank you because i'd have Ethos costs right exactly.
Thank you so much. That's the one thing he did
do you know, But yeah, no, it's it motivates me
though when that happens, and yeah, it's it's a good
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things sometimes when it happens.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
No, absolutely going back to goodies like Young Sierra to
having your own label now and it's Beauty Marks Entertainment. Yeah,
I absolutely love that.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
What are some of the lessons that you learn to
get to the point where you're like, you know what
I need to start my own label?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Well, I think the greatest thing is numbers. Like I'll
just keep it simple. It's numbers, and it's the ability
to create you know, how you want to and when
you want to. Like the way that we get to
flow right now is so fun because if I have
an idea, I can express it right away. If I
want to, you know, share something with my fans right away,
I can click the button versus having to go through
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a whole like process of you know, approvals, because not
everyone's gonnap prove They're not gonna like what you're doing.
They're not gonna prove it. And honestly, at points, I
was investing into myself, but I wasn't reaping the full
benefit because of the back end part of it. And
that is real. Like I you know, when you're young
and you like, I'm living my dream. I'm getting to like,
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you know, do this thing I've always wanted to do.
You don't think about that stuff. And then what happens
is when you're like, you're like, you get to do
a number check and you're like, wait, I thought that
there was gonna be way more on my bank account
than that, and it's like, oh, wait, do the math.
You have to pay your manager, you have to pay
your accounts, and you have to pay your lawyer, you
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have to pay you know, all your invoices, you know
all those things, and then you have to do taxes.
And then after that you're like, wait, what they hit right,
like hold up, like wait a minute, math a math
and like something bliss in my butt. Right, I'm giving,
I'm sacrificing so much, and but I'm not seeing the
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full benefits of my labor. And that that's real, like
and that's what really moted me for the chapter again, chapters,
yes of ownership. Ownership became significant for me because that's
where you know, to me, your true financial and wealth
success is on the finance, on the economic side of life. Yes,
you know, so that matters, like you know, I hope
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you know, you know when I look back years later,
because legacy is everything, right, that's the one thing that
I really work hard to protect. And and again, like
when you're labeled, sometimes they don't have the same passion
to protect your legacy like you do, right, And so
that's important for me. But I hope that I can
also do something that hasn't been done even within my
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own family. Legacy, right is the extension of wealth for
our for our babies, right, you know. And that's like
my mentality, like I'm working hard for that. I'm working hard.
So when I'm in a certain place in my life,
I'm gonna say mid fifties. I ain't got to hit
that matrix now up unless I won't do you know
what I'm saying, I won't hit the maxus to the
make okay. And you know, like so like what are
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we working for? Right? It's like I got goals that
I'm trying to get to you. And at some point
you want to work you know, smarter, not harder. Yes,
that's real. The you know, big part of my like
baseline perspective on how I approach business and and and
life in general. So it was a combination of all
those things that motivated me. And I'm so glad that
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I took the risk and allowed myself to be uncomfortable.
And you know, I'll never look back.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, I love that. I love that. From the outside
looking and you talk about somewhere in your fifties you
won't have to make. You can pick and cheese when
you do the matrix, Which is so funny from the
outside looking in, most people look at you and like
why is she still going so hard? You know, because
you got it made in the shade looking like she
got the husbands, she got the beautiful children. You know.
(15:43):
It's like some women would just be like Yep, I'm done.
I'm just gonna take care of these babies. But you
still go, what is that push besides the legacy that
keeps you going?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's my passion for what I do. I love being
an artist. I love performing. I love traveling the world
and you know, meeting my fans and meeting new people
and you know, learning different languages, and you know, I
have an appreciation for what God has blessed me to do,
and that is to be an artist and plus all
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the other things that you know that I'm fortunate to
be a part of. It's that like heartbeat. It's like
that that that beat like it's a it's a it's
a beat that that's like it's like what is it
like to the beat of your own drum? Like it's
a it's a drum pattern that I feel like the
things that I'm doing like it's feeding me, Like it's
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like music movement within itself, you know. And so those
are the things that I love doing. They fill my cup.
They are part of my identity, right and so I'm
I'm so so blessed, like I'm not gonna you know,
front like it's a blessing that I get to wake
up every day knowing that I'm doing exactly what I
want to do. Like if that's something I could wish
for every person in this world or anyone, is that
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I want to do what you love because the truth
is that when you do what you love, you never
work a day in your life. And or if that's
how it feels, and I think it's like i CC
sets goals like I set goals and I'm trying to
achieve those goals So that's a big part of my
motivation too, right, And I just feel more empowered, you know,
the little more I played in life, Like I love that,
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you know, I get to go from the stage to
the classroom with my babies. Literally I was performing in London.
It was like, I don't know, almost thirty thousand people,
and I mean that was like insane love that London
showed me was amazing. But literally the next day or
like the after I left London, I was humbled and
I was in that classroom like, Okay, what do I
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need for the kids? They need this, this and this
and this. Wow, you know, and then Russ has football.
I like being there for him, Like these are blessings,
all of them are blessings. Like I said, I was like, listen,
we ain't stressed out, we blessed out. It's perspective, you know.
But I just love what I do and it's big
part of my identity. And I think that as women especially,
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you know, you have to fill your cup. You have
to do things that you know that that feeds you
what you need. And these things feed me. Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now, is there anything else like in your downtime? Because
you have so many things going on. You're an artist,
you're an entrepreneur, you have skincare line, you have a
spirits line, you have so many different things that you
that you have your hands in. How do you balance
it all with the children and then taking time for Sierra?
What do those moments look like when you're like, Okay,
this is my time or do you even get that?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I'm actually trying to master that a little better
because I do sometimes take the greatest hit within my schedule,
right and reference to like me time, But schedule is everything.
I was literally just talking to Dimples on my team
and I was saying, I want to walk through how
we're going to do a couple of promo days so
we can stack some things because I'm like, I got
to give myself for a little room to breathe. Yes,
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but I'm so hungry.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's the drive, like I'm hustling right now, and there's
something that's really fun about it. But also life is
important too, so I really do try to master it
by my schedule, Like I schedule, you know, whether it's
like and again, sometimes you go off the beating path,
but it may be like these four hours or my
time with my kids. Yes, okay, then after that I
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have two calls, and then after that I go do
you know, to the gym or and then after that
I go to date night with us. Like my days,
I get to like schedule them, even the personal time.
So that way, I'm also intentional with carving out the time.
If I don't have a schedule, then it's like we're
just kind of what they say, Willy Niely, like we
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just kind of phrase stylling. And that's when it gets
really crazy because before you look up, time passes you by,
and sometimes, like you know, I do really master being
punctual with my flow, like I'm just efficient, and I'm
also looking forward to date night. I'm looking forward to
just blocks of times to put my phone down, be
(20:01):
with my babies, like because I have to. But I
would recommend to any mom schedules you know. Yeah, that's
like changing.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't have children, but my life is
I have to, like at nighttime, I kind of go
through everything I have to do, and then even like
the insulary things that I have to kind of pencil
in in between my mandatory things. I have to put
it all in the schedule so in the morning I
can look at and be like, Okay, got it, this
is what I got.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's game changing, is that structure and the intentionality of
making sure that you make time for what's important.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah. And you know what I'm trying to really master.
Excuse me, I'm trying to master rest. Come on here, Yeah,
because rest is so vital. Yes, And I never knew
I needed rest until like these stages, at this stage
or in my life. We gotta get rest, you know.
Sleeping is vital for like health. I have gotten sick
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twice within the shortest timeframe that I ever have. I'm like, okay, now, okay, God,
Now I hear you Lord, and then my body I
hear you body. So I need to like make sure I, like,
you know, do that too, because your body gets to recover.
Your body can like endure everything when you're grinding, you know,
trying to work on building my immune system, like all
(21:17):
these things are vital. So I'm really trying to like
level up my rest. I'm trying to level up like
my my immune my immunization or am I saying that right?
My immunity, like my care. Yeah, I'm trying to make
sure I'm like doing these things that are gonna also
feed me too. I really want to master like resting.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's so good because our industry has its whole entire
sleep when you're dead, and it's like, no, you're gonna
die if you don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But that is true. It's big facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, are you like a night time I know in
the studio a lot of people work better like in
the wee hours of the morning. I'm not like that.
I have to have like daytime hours when when you're recording.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
When are you used to do the wee hours? Actually
did wee hours last night? This is the craziest thing.
I came from Africa. We traveled for seventeen hours I landed,
I went to go to do the Boys and Girls Club,
the why Not You centers. Then I went from there
to a podcast taping, and then I went from there
to the studio, and we were up to like almost
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one o'clock in the morning. See here, two o'clock, she said,
two o'clock in the morning. So that's like an abnormal night. Okay.
But I did that again because I knew, Okay, today
I'm gonna come see you, and then I'm gonna, you know,
have the rest of my I have like a couple
more things I have to do in this day, work
work related. And then when I get home, I got
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to go into mommy and also hubby WiFi mode, you know,
so I had to like I'm being strategic again, Like
my babies aren't here, Russ is working doing this thing. Okay,
now Mama can like grind it out, you know. But
normally I like to work early, so like if my
kids were at I do studio. When I was young,
I didn't do that. I worked to the wee hours.
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But now it's like take the kids to school studio
at nine o'clock, which is so like crazy how life
falls like that. But I'd like to try to get
my heavy stub out the way early in the day.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's good. It's so important. And I go, we get
so caught up in like just loving what we do
that we forget because it's like it's literally it's feeding us,
it's keeping us away, and it's like, oh, I haven't slept.
I need to eat even eat.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yes, and I love to eat me love, Oh my gosh. Okay,
So I always sound Blexican because you know, black and Mexican.
I love Mexican food. I'm also Blazian. I love Asian food. Yes,
those will be my top two cuisines, and also Italian.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Italians my favorite it's fire, yes.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And I love carbs, like, help me, lord, I need
a mass of that too, because I swear I feel
like every meal deserves a carb and that's just not
the way to so I gotta work on that. But
I love eating. It's just it's so fun. Like eating
is like, you know, it's community, like it's you know,
it's it's just everything really. And I'm from Atlanta, you know, Yeah,
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we do everything with seasoning. But yeah, but lorry's all
that stuff, you know, So it's kind of what I
how I grew up. Every Sunday was like Thanksgiving out
the church, you know, and like every other day it's
like Thanksgiving. So it's just in me. I do love food.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
You love food, but your body is always tea.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
How oh, thank you so much. I try. Okay, So
after my baby girl and more my last baby I have,
I still haven't gotten all the way back to my
base weight. And at one point in time, it's funny
because I weigh the same weight as Russow, so she
I gain the most with her, and it's honestly it's hard,
(24:56):
but I will say this. What I do try to
do is moderation. Yeah, stop when you're full, and it's hard,
like when food is good, it's hard to stop, but
moderation is key. Right. So sometimes I realized I went
a little too crazy. Let me like dial it back.
This evening, I try to eat just fish and veggies like,
but I have to literally talk to myself like, don't
(25:17):
do it, don't do it, don't do it, like that's
how bad it is. But it's really bad. Oh my gosh,
yeah exactly, I did it right, yeah, you know, and
also tons of water like when you're training, you know,
I did this thing with my nutrition is years ago,
and he did a body mass index calculation on me,
(25:38):
checking your muscle mass and like all these different things.
And he gave me like the water ratio versus like
my weight and all that stuff. So when I'm trying
to come down, like sometimes I'm drinking a gallon and
almost a half when I gained like seventy five pounds, right,
so it's like you're just being mindful of like your
water intake. Those things matter, but moderation.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, when you're think you look up amazing, like to
wait for a baby more. I was like, this girl
looks so good, but that I knew you were thicker
than normal? Was E ever a mama where you looked
at the man and was like or were you like
I see your girl?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I gonna lie. I loved every step of the way good.
And you know what it is, I got to give
my husband some love because Russ really made me feel
even more like, Okay, I'm liking my curd. Put a
cup on it kind of babe, you know, because he
was like he tells me, and I was like, don't
you get too crazy because he likes my hips, you know,
so that makes me feel good. Right, it's like that stuff,
(26:33):
you know, Can I give us ladies a little okay?
And absolutely, Q okay, we can. We can appreciate these
extra little you know grips or you know rippers, whatever
you want to call it. So no, it's really sweet.
And I think there's something too about like where you
are in your life, Like I love having a little
(26:54):
more on me. You know, I've always been a little smaller,
but I like it. I like all the jeans me
and I'm liking it.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You look good. Yeah, no, I saw it and I
was like, sexy is looking good? Thank you? No, for sure,
you just gave props to your husband Wrussell. You guys
are a couple goals. Like everybody all the women are
praying your prayers. Oh my gosh, I was like, when
she comes out, needs her to pray over.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Oh my gosh. It's such funny.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
But you both have your own careers, your own lives.
How has it been managing the relationship and now having
a family, But still like you're doing your thing and
he's doing his thing. How do you guys? What are
those conversations? Like, all right, babe, we gotta how do
we keep together?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, communication is really important. And you know what's really
great is that with him doing football, his world is
more structured. Yes, my world I can kind of like
plan around his world. So that is, like you know,
I would say, is a blessing and the dynamic of
what we do. And we're just really big on like
you know, communicating like he knows my schedule, like he
(27:56):
tell me my schedule back. Sometimes I can even tell
it myself, you know. But we're really you know, lock
and step on that, you know, and we find ways
to stay connected even when we're a part, whether it's
like watching a show. We have a thing like you
can't watch the show without the other, right when you're
in two different places. But if we're going to do it,
we're watching it like simultaneously, like they put your computer
(28:18):
on you, you know, so we don't have the sound,
you know, So we'll do little things like that or
like you know, we really do work on coordinating things
as best as possible. And I think that that's like
the game changer against schedule, Like it's huge, right, so
we kind of know, Okay, I'm going to be going
these amount of days or you know, if he has
(28:39):
to do something same thing, but we're like mapping out
so we can like make sure it comes back to us.
Like we're very intentional, you know, even date nights, like
we do date nights every Friday when he's in the season.
And I've been a big belief like that little thing,
you know, or that I don't little, but that moment
(28:59):
has been like game changing for us over the years,
I think, because one, I'm always looking forward to it.
You're not forgetting to date each other. Yes, you got
to do that, right, We always talk about that. He
always says you got to always compete, you know, like
that was one of his things that he and I
like that idea because it's like searching for the beginning,
always searching for the beginning, like when we first met
(29:20):
up my kid. But I'm aware of it. You know,
you still want to do yeah, you know it's still
it keeps it exciting, you know. So it's it's honestly
just being intentional. I would say. That's the thing, Like
we both want our love to be as sweet and
fool as it can be, and so we're very intentional
(29:40):
about achieving that. Now we don't get it right all
the time, you know, but we the place that we
come from is it's the foundation is set and it's clear,
and so yeah, we're very very intentional.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I love that. And your relationship is built on the
foundation of God.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh my gosh, Us at the center.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
When we first got engaged and say, shells, he actually
the first thing that we did is we went and
we prayed, and you know, he actually initiated, you know,
the the thought of you know, having Jesus at the center.
And I really love you. I want to cry. I
don't know why I be up here crying like this.
(30:19):
I have been like on Ail a chapter of tears.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Let's not get crazy right now, Okay, I I really
have been like an emotional like.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah it is it's gratitude, you know. But that was
really sweet and powerful to have that you know, connection
or like in that very moment, like that's the foundation
we're going to set this on. Like and it's honestly real,
Like having Jesus at the center is significant because when
man leans on man listen, that's when it gets murky.
(31:03):
We start trying to be like, well, I feel it's like, hey,
what does God want? You know, where is the spirit
in all this? Like, where is the you know, go
to the place of love. When we do that, like
it brings everything back down like to like the right place,
you know, so, and I think that's huge. It is,
you know, especially in our world, like it's our worlds
(31:24):
are crazy, like hectic and like fast moving and convenient
like you know, so it's like okay, whenever we have
a little funky something like the spirit is what brings
us back. It brings us like back to where we
need to be and it takes both right. Like we
were saying, we have certain like rules too, like the
(31:44):
past our pastors jud who actually officiated our wedding and
he's in one of our he's like amazing, but he,
you know, talked about like how in relationships, like you
can have an idea where you never say the D word,
like you never.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Say yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And then also you say you gotta be able like
when you make the mistake or you cause the turn
up or the friction, you gotta be able to say
will you forgive me? And that is hard because I'm stubborn.
I'd be like if people forgive me because I went wrong,
(32:23):
and then I might be wrong. It's like see her
just say it, like I'm talking about it, like just
say it. Rolling my eyes, like I don't want to
say it, just say it. You better say. You know,
it's a whole thing like that is hard they think
to be like will you forgive me? You know, but
it's like it's game changing, it is right, and we
both have that understanding. Like those little things, you know,
(32:44):
they're really they're really helpful.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, and it's beautiful that you can because asking for
forgiveness is not only an humbling state, but it's also
very vulnerable to like look at yourself in the mirror
and say, wait a minute, this is me. I messed up.
And to be able to go to the person and
then that, you know, so the fact that you are
so comfortable with each other to allow each other to
see each other in that state is so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, and I think it. It feels good when someone
takes accountability, right, you know, you don't want.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
To Breezy exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, okay, And I'll get rust credit. He does pretty
good with coming back around, Like we were saying, the
day he gets like more worked up, I get very quiet,
you know, like when he raises his voice. It's funny
because like you know, his love remind like reminds me
of like my dad's love, right, and I remember like
my dad would like reprimand me, like the tone of
(33:35):
the voice was just like enough to make you go, yeah,
you're just crumble. And so if he gets like about
it's like and depending on what it is, I'll be like,
you know, I just sit back where you going with this,
you know, like or I might feel like you don't
have all these different feels, you know, but like he
typically is the one that could like get a little
(33:57):
more turned up with me. I get quiet turned like,
you know, yeah no, but he's so you know, he's
really good about like him come back around like you know,
so I'll give him that. He does that really well. Okay,
I love you tell you.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Know, I love that is so beautiful. Now, word on
the street is that y'all started a matchmaking service.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh my lord, we did not start a matchmaking.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Service because we're trying to sign the people are like
we're doing we should actually like think about this thing.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Let me tell you. We love seeing our friends experience love. Yeah,
we have fun, like and we're just so blessed. We
have a really great group of friends, Like you know,
in all different parts of the world, and I for me,
like especially with my girls. I'm like, I just want
my girls to be happy, like if that's what they want, right,
(34:54):
you know, Like I have a I don't want to
call her out, but I have someone. I have a
dentist in my life. Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna
say her name. She was like Sierra, but like she's
so like sweet smart boss, owns her own dentist, dentistry
like business like she has. She's amazing, like great vision,
(35:16):
and like she's you know, single, and I'm like, Okay,
we've got to figure this out. Like so I will
be like on the search. I love it because I'm like,
she is a queen and she deserves a king. Like yes,
that's my mentality, right, So I just love trying to
help in any way that I can. We both love it.
We have been very fortunate to introduce people, and that's
(35:41):
the funds Cocoa and Okay, so wait we did not, Okay,
so they just assume that they Okay, so this is
what happened. What happened, Okay, So Coco and Donovan shouted
both of them, and I'm so happy for you, my girl,
Cocoa is the sweetest she is, and Donovan is so
cool and and just amazing, And Russ and don even
have their boyflow. Honestly, they've been having their whole like
(36:03):
boyflow for some time, like low key behind the scenes,
and I love that, Like I love how the men
connect on that kind of stuff. But basically, you know,
the fellas are over there doing their thing, Russ and Donovan.
And Russ has like he's really obviously I think he's
the best on the field, but off the field, he
(36:23):
has like this creative mind that runs wild with a
lot of cool ideas. So he actually has a company
West to East Lux where he's doing like providing luxury
like experiences and stuff like that. So it's his passion
for him. But basically, him and Donovan connected and all
of a sudden, I look up and like Russ is like,
we set this up, blah blah blah, Like he had
(36:44):
the whole like they were doing the whole thing planning
the engagement for him and Cocos. So it's just so sweet,
you know, and so we're just really happy for them.
It's so beautiful and it's just amazing, Like God's good.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
He is so good. He is so good. At BT
Media House, you stopped by Jim Jones interview and he said,
you need to I think it was steal it properly. Yes,
that let me know that you love.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I was totally you know, sometimes that's just me. I
think it's my passion to just like want, you know,
the best for people and listen, you know, I don't
know them from a can of pain, but I just
remember my last memories of them and knowing that they've shared,
you know, their journey with the world. And I think
(37:37):
the greatest thing that we all have to remember is
that imperfect love. Like in imperfect love, that's where the
perfection is. Yeah, you know, it's like there's not a
perfect way to do love. The perfect way to do
love is just to love and the best way that
you can and to love right. And that doesn't mean
you can always get it right. And that doesn't mean
(37:58):
you can have the perfect story where you went through
this phase, this phase, this phase and now it's wila.
Some people go through a phase it's amazing, then it
falls flat and it comes back again, then it goes.
Everyone's love story is their own.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It is, yeah, and that's what makes it beautiful.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, and there's no judgment in love, right, And so
I think that when I saw, you know, when I
was in that moment, I just was it was from
a place of love absolutely, you know, and just you know,
wanting uh, you know, something beautiful from my perspective, or
wanting that, you know, for the people that I've loved
watching on TV, like you know, y'all got to do this.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I was like, it's fashion properly. And I felt it
because I'm hopeless romantic, I love love, and I'm on
this new journey really being more intentional about my walk
with Christ in my Bible, and through that, God convicted
me on sex. So I stopped having sex. And because
I wanted to. I want to love the way God
(38:56):
intended and I wanted to do it properly. When so
when I heard you say steal it properly, I'm like, exactly, like,
because that's that was my conviction. God was like, you're
doing it wrong, Like this is not how I designed this.
I need you to trust me, and do you trust
me to bring you love the way I intended it
so that you're not continuously getting hurt?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, So I felt that I didn't take any I
didn't read it as judgment. I was like, I'm with
her because she's all about it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, steal it, you know. I mean I think that
we owe that to ourselves, you know, and I think
that when you know, it always hurts, like in general,
like you know, we live in this era and I
don't wanna say era because this has been like it's
just a new word that they coin it like love bombing,
you know, which is not writing because oftentimes for us
as women, excuse me, Okay, so when guys see a girl,
(39:45):
it's exterior first. Yes, when we see a man, it's
interior and exterior. We see you on the front, like, okay,
you look amazing, but like what is he Like, Like
we started like fantasizing and thinking about like, you know,
is he a family used to be thinking about all
of these things.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Literally instantly we're like, yeah, you map it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Through and you you think in your mind through all
those things, and sometimes too, like a guy can mishandle
you know where we are, and that's like crushing. Feel
like you've set back, you know what I mean, Like
it's like a blowback because we're going with the right intentions,
but then a guy has different intentions and like it's like, man,
you just wasted a chunk of my life. Yeah, just
(40:22):
waste a chunk of my time. Like I'm I'm really rolling,
like I'm really like in this thing and you over
here kind of plan like now we're just losing a
little time.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Like what we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But I can relate to where you are in your
life in reference to just like causing like wanting to
like be very intentional with yourself, your body. You know,
how you're loving on yourself like being you know, set
to me, like you talk about prayer, Like prayer really works,
it does, right, And I do think there's something about
(40:54):
when we start to envision who we want to be
within ourselves and we cement it with prayer, like the
evolution starts to happen like overnight, Oh.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
My goodness, Herera seriously gotta be moving fast. It's like
what I just I.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Just said that, And it trickles down to everything. It
could be like in your business, it.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Can be your podcast and see her is here, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
It can be just even if somebody's off in your
friend circle, like just when you start to be like
in tune with yourself. Yeah, and you start to pour
into yourself, like everything starts to become more clear, and
you start to walk with a different pet like you
start to feel like you know, it's like okay, hold up,
my shoulder starts to get taller, like my walk starts
(41:41):
to get more like like, Okay, she know who she is,
Like she know where she want to go. She ain't
there yet, but she gonna get there. Like that's the
kind of mentality you start to have. So I love
you know, I love like what you're saying, and I
relate to what you're saying. And I think that the
season for things, right, this season you're talking about is
like Okay, this is before this season is important. Yeah,
(42:05):
very this season you're talking about it is important because
like you know, like when we do that, when we
make commitments to ourselves and like what we're trying to
do and trying to evolve, like we got to really
like okay, let's do it. Yes, right, And then I
swear to you like God is so good. The blessings
start to overflow. Yes, you know, they come. Yeah, And
(42:25):
like I was saying to somebody, to someone the other day,
it's like you want to be right, yeah right, you know,
so like I love that.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah. Ari Lennox, she had just posted something about she's
been upstaining from sex. She's posted on Instagram and she's like,
I'm staying from sex, but it's hard dating guys because
that's all they want, yea, And she said, it just
seems like we're not winning the girls who are trying
to just do think date right the right way. So
I DM there and I was like, listen, I'm in
the same boat with you. So we exchanged information because
(42:53):
we have been known each other for since earlier this year.
And she's like, you too, yeah voice. I was like
me too. So you're just having the friendship.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
The circle, Oh my gosh, the circles that you surround
yourself are really important. Who you share information with when
you're vulnerable is really important because what they say back
to you can impact your life so significantly. You can
have a friend that encourages you to do the right thing,
and one then encourages you, encourages you to do the
bad thing, and when you're vulnerable, sometimes you go with
(43:22):
the bad thing because like that's how the devil works.
It is, you know, like the feeling can feel like
that's the right thing, but it's the wrong thing. Yes,
So who advises you is really important.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
So important. And I was in a state like that
last year where I've been open about it. I was
kind of running from Jesus. I was like, you know,
like I just felt like I just want to be
me and I was trying to straddle the fans around
like I want to like be me, and it wasn't
aligning with where.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
No man, yes, lean on your owner. And I was
But you know what you made me think about to
you when you're talking about you know, abstaining and like
that phase you're in the right guy will respect it
and the right guy will appreciate it and like will
hold your hand with you. Yes, that's what I do know, right,
(44:10):
I know that for a fact. Okay, like you know,
I can cry again, but I know that right that
the right person. You know, listen, we're not perfect, you know,
not going to always you know, say everything perfectly and
do everything perfectly. But the right person like they're going
(44:30):
to wait for you, and they're going to respect you,
and they're going to you know, be patient with you.
And when they're thinking like rus and we talk about
being equally yoked. Like that's a game changer, right, because
that already already changes the playing field. Now we're we're
operating from the same platform, same foundation perspective, Like now
(44:51):
we can really go up together, you know, because yeah,
like we're you know what I'm saying. So it's like
that's the thing, right, And I think there's a difference
between boys, boys and men, right, you know, so like men,
they're gonna wait for you, they're gonna be patient with you,
they gonna put the time in, they're gonna send you flowers,
(45:12):
they're gonna think of you. It's gonna be the little
things that are gonna actually make the biggest difference. But
they're gonna be so intentional because they real men. Like
that's so, you know, I think that to me is
also something I learned in life through my journey. Right,
there's a difference between boys and men.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, and you're raising young men
and a daughter, Like, how is that like seeing your
images of you walking around the house and instilling these
principles into them.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Oh, my gosh, it is the best. Being a mom
is the best job, the best job on earth because
it is a job okay, So I'm gonna shout out
all I don't care if you stay at home mom,
like it is work. Yeah okay, but I wouldn't have
my life any other way. And I think, you know,
(45:59):
it's fun. And you know Sienna, especially little.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
CC baby so much personality.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
See boys, she be coming hat okay, but she loves
me so much, like and I'm like looking at him,
like I'm seeing she's going through this interesting face. She
just wants to do everything with me and like me,
and I'm like, wow, like what a gift? What a
how sweet is that my daughter looks at me and
she like looks up to me, like wow, that is
(46:27):
so precious, Like, you know, God, like, please help me
to be the best example I can be for her.
Please help me to teach her the best way possible.
Please give me the words to say to her when
she's gonna need it the most, like please let her
feel comfortable to come and leave my shoulder, you know,
when she's gonna need it the most. Like that's what
I hope for with my baby, my baby girls. And
(46:48):
like like I said I was saying to JV earlier,
I was like I'm out here ground like it's the
early two thousands, and she is not feeling it. Like
she had the greatest cry the other day and I'd
never seen her do that before because she didn't want
me to travel. But I do hope that when she
sees Mommy can do it, I can do it.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I hope that for Mauramora is just one years old.
She's like twenty months now, and this girl is one
going on twenty one for sure, Like I think she's
gonna be really confident too, love it. So I just
hope that they both will look at mommy that way.
And I just pray over our bond and our boys.
You know, I think they get to see how Dad
(47:27):
loves me. You know, I think that's important. You know.
I hope that they also get to, you know, have
the right perspective on me, you know, like when it
comes to them meeting a lady in their lives. Like,
you know, it's an interesting dynamic with boy and girl.
But it's a blessing that I have both. You know.
It's it's NonStop. Boys think everything is a jungle gym.
(47:51):
Maybe yeah, he'll be eating food in a case of
dealing'll be like like jumping from I'm like, what we
doing right? And see she said, I don't do hair
and makeup. That like there's a clear dynamic between both
of them, both you know, boy and girl. But I
do get the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, the state of the world that we're in, I
have a fear of bringing children into this world. When
you're raising children, is there ever like fear that creeps
in as they're leaving the house, Like what influences are
gonna interact with them as they leave the house?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
One That's why I'm trying to really work on communicating
even more at home because we come from the air.
I'm not sure if you feel this way, but I
feel like we came from the era where a lot
of conversations were just like you don't talk about them,
absolutely right. It can be sex conversations, it can be
you know how just anything like if you know, we
(48:41):
just wouldn't like talk about things. And so for me,
I'm trying to really challenge myself to create a lot
of communication and also tell them about things before the
world tells them because oftentimes, unfortunately kids go to school
and they get information right, you know, and like that's
never good in most cases because they're like sponges and
(49:02):
they absorb so easily they do, so, you know, I
try to find the fine balance between like what we
talk about and how far we go with things, but
also equipping them for the world because it is a
whole new world.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
It is.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
It is really so interesting when we were growing up.
I'm like, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, And they have so much access now to things
that we didn't have access to growing up.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
They do, they do, you know. But I think if
we talk about things, like, you know, try to avoid
as many surprises as possible for them, Like when they
go in the world, it's like, okay, mom, we talked
about that. My mom told me, like I know what
that is. And they can also know, like they need
to be able to know stuff if someone's telling them.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
But like, no, that's not right. Yeah, that's so true.
That's good. I love that.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Here.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Thank you so much. Congratulations on your new element. You're
driving super excited about everything you have going on. Make
sure you guys go buy her rum. It is ten
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Speaker 2 (50:04):
So you can go to omskin dot com. But I
also wanted to share with my friends, my fans and
just the customers that have been like the best supporters
with OM in particular, is that I'm one of this.
I'm on a mission to keep evolving in this space.
So I'm also even though it's me, my my business
is still really small, so I go go through those
(50:25):
growing pains that a lot of small business owners go through,
and yeah, and it's a beast. So there is an
evolution that's happening behind the scenes with OM. And so
because you're probably like, what's my posting cadence, like it's
it's like it's slowing down. Like if you're a true
fan of OEM, you're probably like, Okay, what's happening. But
what fortunately did happen for me is a lot of
(50:45):
my SKUs sold out multiple times, so that was great,
and our subscription subscription world has been amazing and growing.
But now people when they go to omskin dot com,
you'll see I have my serum and my writing pads,
and those were two of are like strongest sellers. And
so luckily I have a great amount of inventory. So
I tell everybody to get it while it lasts, because
(51:06):
OEM is about to evolve and I have new formulations
that I'm working on and it's super exciting. I'm using
them every day. I honestly can't go without them. Thank
you so much. So yeah, I'm excited, good amazing.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Before we leave, I want to play a quick quick
game love it or leave it? All right? The first
one is five am workouts leave it?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Well, I do it, yeah, but leave it. Group chats
love it?
Speaker 1 (51:35):
You love it? Who's in your group chat?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Okay, it's funny because okay, my group chat with my girls.
We have one with me law V. Yeah, we have
mel V sometimes Melvy and Kelly. Yeah, that's my girls
and also my best fend of makeup artist, Yolanda. I
(51:58):
have to shout her out because she's been in my
career since I was my very first professional shoot really
when I was sixteen years old. So we have our
sometimes it might be me La Yolie. I'd be between
Russ and I. We've been doing multiple group chats. It
depends on the topic, right, It's just like our flow.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. Long phone calls or text messages.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
You see the phone for a long time, Well do
you leave it? You said love it or leave it? Right? Oh?
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, so yeah, long phone calls.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, I love it with my love love it.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
I love it. I love chatting.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
What's the longest you like? Looked in like, oh my gosh,
you were on the home phone for three hours.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
No, babe, do not kill me. See this is one
thing we ain't even doing lately. But you know, we've
been busy or whatever, so I would get that gay.
But in our early days especially, we fall asleep on
the phone on the face time and then you wake
up and then he's there.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
That's a long time TikTok, dead streams love it.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, I knew you love that. I love it. Sierre,
Thank you so much. Thank you are amazing. This was
incredible to sit down and talk to you. I'm so
glad we were able to make this happen.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Me too. This was so much fun and congratulations to
you on all your success. Thank you. Everyone loves to
see what you talk about.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Thank you, Thank you. They're gonna love this one. Let's
go all right. Thank you. So today I am wearing
silver Wave bo sandals. These are my favorite new sandals,
low Wave shorts, a Balenciaga Crosstie shirt, Scaparelli earrings, and
(53:42):
my signature jeey fou fou bou bow. Yeah. I cannot
believe we just had this moment with the mention of gratitude.
I'd like to take this moment to thank you, my sweeties.
You all have supported this platform, You've grown with me,
and I am truly, truly thankful. Remember we ain't stressed out.
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We blessed out in the meantime in between time. Keep
it positive, CDs.
Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host,
Christoph and this is the Keeping Positive Sweetish Show. Hey, sweeties.
In this season, I have been so blessed to have
conversations with people who I've been impacted by, people who
have grown up watching and admiring. And today is truly
(00:21):
going to be special. My guest today is a wife, mom, artist, actress, philanthropists,
just to name a few, kid's family. Please give a
very warm Atlanta Welcome to Sierra.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, how are you amazing?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You look amazing. Thank you so much to thank you
and thank you for coming.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh my gosh, let me just say, in all my
years that I've done interviews, I have never seen what
I just saw happen before we start our interview with
JB praying before an interview. Yes, that is amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Listen, we keep God first and everything.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Amen. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thank you. No, that's that's one of the things in
every thing we do, we always make sure we pray.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, it's the best way to kick off the day.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It is, no for sure. So I want to start
with a little story time. So just a month ago,
two months ago, the top of June BT Awards, we
were a BT Media house and they're like, Sierra's coming,
We're gonna get you an interview with her. I was like,
oh my goodness, Sierra is coming, so we see you come.
My little booth is right next to Angie Martinez's door,
(01:23):
so I was like, all right, guys, I'm not taking
any interviews. So like as soon as she comes out
the door, we're gonna grab her. So you come out
and they're like, she has to go to another interview
and I got a quick picture with you and it
was so cute. Actually, Drea shot that. It was a
really beautiful picture of us. And I was like, it's okay,
we're gonna It's something else is gonna happen. God has
something better in store. And I really wanted to interview
that day, and now I have you here, and that's
(01:44):
just how God works. So I was like I always
be looking out. I was like, come on, come on
your hometown. Yeah, this is I love it and Kaya
and depotated hit me and Kay was like yes, yes.
She was like you got to get here, like y'all
are perfect for each other, y'all have the same brand.
She loves God, you love God. She's like she's so
positive it'd be perfect. And then denvill has hit me
(02:06):
and she was like, we're gonna do it, and I'm like, yeah, no, Lie.
Before you came in, They're like, are you nervous?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And I was like, yeah, no, it's amazing, man.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, but she has so much going on. You are busy.
You just had the second you opened your second you
had your second annual Sierra Day, and then you opened
your second why not Center?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, that's like, no, it's amazing. So technically it's my
first time actually celebrating this holiday or this special day
that the state and the city, you know, granted me.
And I got to give thanks to Flana Williams because
she really spearheaded that. And I've noticed since I was
a baby at one point in time. She's my manager really,
(02:50):
like she's known me since I was like literally when
I got signed to Aristis, she was a sign of
my project. Wow, so twenty plus years ago, because twenty
one years ago my album Goodies came out, so war
that came out, So I know I was like sixteen
wo or fourteen, fourteen, fifteen, anywhere somewhere in that place.
Fifteen to sixteen. That's when I met her, and so no,
(03:11):
it was amazing because Russ and I we've always had
a vision with our wy Not You Foundation, and we
have a big vision to do a few things right,
and one of those things where to create centers for kids. Yes,
and we've been very fortunate in our partnership with the
Boys and Girls Club that we're able to put why
not You Centers and boys and some of the Boys
(03:32):
and Girls clubs. We start off in Pittsburgh last year,
and then we both said that we have to make
sure we have the why not You Centers in the
places where we came from. Absolutely, because I mean, for me,
you know, I've always wanted to get back to my
city because I feel like the city has given me
so much, and you know this Atlanta is the city
that made me, you know, so my like next tier
of like growth and like leveling up is like giving
(03:54):
back in my hometown. So yesterday was just the start
of that on Sierra Day, and it was to me,
it was the best way to kick off a day
like that, Like I really want, you know, every time
that I get a chance to celebrate this day, I
want to make it a day of impact. And it
was so sweet you know, giving the kids at the
Boys and Girls Club or why not you Center and
(04:17):
dance Hall, and you know, there was the dancers that
came there and they were the first months to dance
in that space, and all the kids that go to
the Boys and Girls Club. It was just so much
great energy. It was so beautiful. Like I was so
touched and moved and just so thankful to God that
we can do stuff like that. Yeah, I want to
(04:37):
do more and more of it. So that was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's amazing. You mentioned impact and that is actually the
whole theme of this season for the podcast, because we
inspire people, but what impacts are we leaving? So I
love that you are literally putting action behind your words
and doing that. That's so dope.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You also have a new album coming out entitled CC,
a new single with Lotto. So what you're having an
album called Cierra. What was the emphasis of CC?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now, Well, you know it's my nickname and a lot
of my fans have called me CC over the years. Yes,
and my family obviously calls me CC. And I feel
like when someone calls you by your nickname is personal. Yes,
And so I just I have a special connection with
my fans, and my fans are really the reason why
I am where I am today, you know, especially being
(05:28):
an independent artist and running my own label, that is
the most vulnerable place you can be in and you
really don't know what's going to be like in those
independent waters. And my fans have showed me the power
of you know, who they are and what they mean,
and our relationship dynamic. You know. When I kicked off
Level Up and within one click of a button, you know,
(05:50):
my song was crazy viral. Yes, and it's one of
my most viewed videos to date, and I'm so proud
because it's mine, Like I own that side, own the master. Yeah.
So on this album, I just really want to It's
like the chapter and season of gratitude for me. I
kind of live my life in chapters, you know, sometimes
(06:11):
you have transitional chapters. Sometimes you just have, you know,
I just have. I just do life and chapters. So
this is the chapter of gratitude for me. I love
that and I just wanted to simply say thank you
to my fans. And I also had been when I
started this project. It was in the form of an
EP and there's songs like how We Roll on there
and ecstasy. They've gotten a little taste of d you know.
(06:33):
But I had been also what's up with feature and
buster rhymes? So I've been putting out songs like that.
But I've been putting out songs along the way, and
it's like, okay, let me just stop giving them one
by one. Let me just give them this body of work.
And I have these amazing songs that I've been sitting
on and also creating, and now it's time to complete
the whole project. So I'm super excited about this album.
(06:55):
It's a lot of energy, a lot of fun. My
goal is always to make the worlds yeah, and to
hopefully give inspiration where there is in love, where there
is in life in general war they just want to
feel good and just like have fun like all that's
on there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I love that you talked about ownership in owning your
your masters and owning the song when you were actually
in the studio doing level of did you realize like
that you really had a hit and it was like
this is gonna go? Did you know instantly?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I knew. I knew the song was a smash. I
really believed in it. It's funny because I was pregnant
as all get out with my daughter Sienna, like the
story of my life, Like I was pregnant. Yeah, uh well,
a lot of great things happen when I'm pregnant. Apparently,
absolutely No. I remember I had I was carrying Sienna
and jamming out with my friend Taran Eve. Yeah, who
(07:47):
doesn't love to run?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Run so amazing?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
What's a gun?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But Tran, you know, we've known each other for years.
We've had great success together. Yeah. And he and I
were in the studio and I was like he had
said to me. He was like, CEC, there's this song
is like going crazy in the club. It's called it Up.
I don't like person, but he was like it's the
ef it Up Challenge and it's just like going crazy.
(08:13):
And I'm like, He's like, I want to play it
for you because I think it'd be super cool. So
he plays it for me. He's like, you know, to
be a good inspiration. And I was like he's playing
and I'm like, oh, that's a vibe. And then I
started saying like level up, level up. But I knew
at that point when we were creating the record, I
wanted energy and I wanted to inspire through the song.
But I was very intentional about every line, like we
really walked through every line together to make sure that
(08:36):
like every detail was buttoned up and really helping us
tell the story because that was the place that I
was in. But I knew when we finished that song
that it was special, to the point that when I
went to the label that I was signed with at
the time, because I was in a traditional label, a
traditional deal at that time, I went to the and
(08:56):
it was a new CEO I had to represent to,
which is never fun, but you're still optimistic. So I
went to present to him and I'm like, there's a
song I have or this is a song I have
called Level Up. This is the visual I had the
visual as well that I had. Yeah, I said like
this is like I think this song's gonna be the next,
you know, big song for me, blah blah blah, and
(09:17):
he literally looked at me and was kind of like
it just fell on like deaf ears, like flat like
he just was like like okay, like very like just tonal,
like you know, flat tone, and he didn't see what
I saw, and that was like unfortunate in that moment,
but it was like one of the biggest blessings in
my life because literally, like that one day I had
(09:38):
was like one of the most unfortunate days, but the
next day was one of the best days because I
decided I'm going to start my label. But I knew
that that song was special. And I've had moments in
my life and in my career from the very beginning,
whether it was Goodies or One two Step or just
certain songs, I'm like, this is going to be the song,
And in most cases, I've been right when I felt that.
(10:01):
So I did believe in the record.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I love that in that moment when you're in that
conference room or in his office, what did it feel
like to be Sierra, the acclaimed artist that you are,
and for someone still not to believe.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And be like, oh my gosh. You know you know
what it does? It like helps you, Like, it motivates
me when people do that, you know, like I feel like, okay,
like you you're gonna wish that. You wouldn't have said no, absolutely, yeah,
you know that you're gonna wish that. So it really
motivates me. You know when that happens, and it's life like,
(10:33):
it's perspective. I think some of the best of the
best are always gonna get someone's gonna try to knock
the best of the best down, you know, And that
motivates me too. When I see people that that inspire
me and I see how they persevere through people saying
you can't yes, you know, or saying it's not possible.
It's like, Okay, we're gonna find a way to make
the impossible possible. Like that's always my mentality. But I
(10:54):
really believe that's why I always tell people, you have
to believe in yourself, you know, because if I didn't
believe in myself in that, I would have been so
discouraged and I would have given up. And you know,
I also say proudly like at that time, it was
like I really became a big girl, Like I became
a big girl really young in this industry because you
have to be. But I really was like I felt
so vulnerable. I'm like, oh my gosh, like I don't
(11:16):
have this big system that I'm used to being in,
Like what's that going to be like? But you know,
like I said, it's one of the greatest blessings in
my life and in my career, and I feel more
empowered than ever. And the funniest thing of all of
that is that when I had, you know, when we
weren't seeing eye to eye, I asked for my master's
back and he gave it back to me for free.
(11:38):
Like that's how you know, he didn't believe. But it's like, okay, God,
you got me, Like I'm gona trust this thing. And
I'm like, thank you because i'd have Ethos costs right exactly.
Thank you so much. That's the one thing he did
do you know, But yeah, no, it's it motivates me
though when that happens, and yeah, it's it's a good
(12:00):
things sometimes when it happens.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
No, absolutely going back to goodies like Young Sierra to
having your own label now and it's Beauty Marks Entertainment. Yeah,
I absolutely love that.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
What are some of the lessons that you learn to
get to the point where you're like, you know what
I need to start my own label?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Well, I think the greatest thing is numbers. Like I'll
just keep it simple. It's numbers, and it's the ability
to create you know, how you want to and when
you want to. Like the way that we get to
flow right now is so fun because if I have
an idea, I can express it right away. If I
want to, you know, share something with my fans right away,
I can click the button versus having to go through
(12:38):
a whole like process of you know, approvals, because not
everyone's gonnap prove They're not gonna like what you're doing.
They're not gonna prove it. And honestly, at points, I
was investing into myself, but I wasn't reaping the full
benefit because of the back end part of it. And
that is real. Like I you know, when you're young
and you like, I'm living my dream. I'm getting to like,
(13:01):
you know, do this thing I've always wanted to do.
You don't think about that stuff. And then what happens
is when you're like, you're like, you get to do
a number check and you're like, wait, I thought that
there was gonna be way more on my bank account
than that, and it's like, oh, wait, do the math.
You have to pay your manager, you have to pay
your accounts, and you have to pay your lawyer, you
(13:23):
have to pay you know, all your invoices, you know
all those things, and then you have to do taxes.
And then after that you're like, wait, what they hit right,
like hold up, like wait a minute, math a math
and like something bliss in my butt. Right, I'm giving,
I'm sacrificing so much, and but I'm not seeing the
(13:43):
full benefits of my labor. And that that's real, like
and that's what really moted me for the chapter again, chapters,
yes of ownership. Ownership became significant for me because that's
where you know, to me, your true financial and wealth
success is on the finance, on the economic side of life. Yes,
you know, so that matters, like you know, I hope
(14:06):
you know, you know when I look back years later,
because legacy is everything, right, that's the one thing that
I really work hard to protect. And and again, like
when you're labeled, sometimes they don't have the same passion
to protect your legacy like you do, right, And so
that's important for me. But I hope that I can
also do something that hasn't been done even within my
(14:29):
own family. Legacy, right is the extension of wealth for
our for our babies, right, you know. And that's like
my mentality, like I'm working hard for that. I'm working hard.
So when I'm in a certain place in my life,
I'm gonna say mid fifties. I ain't got to hit
that matrix now up unless I won't do you know
what I'm saying, I won't hit the maxus to the
make okay. And you know, like so like what are
(14:51):
we working for? Right? It's like I got goals that
I'm trying to get to you. And at some point
you want to work you know, smarter, not harder. Yes,
that's real. The you know, big part of my like
baseline perspective on how I approach business and and and
life in general. So it was a combination of all
those things that motivated me. And I'm so glad that
(15:14):
I took the risk and allowed myself to be uncomfortable.
And you know, I'll never look back.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, I love that. I love that. From the outside
looking and you talk about somewhere in your fifties you
won't have to make. You can pick and cheese when
you do the matrix, Which is so funny from the
outside looking in, most people look at you and like
why is she still going so hard? You know, because
you got it made in the shade looking like she
got the husbands, she got the beautiful children. You know.
(15:43):
It's like some women would just be like Yep, I'm done.
I'm just gonna take care of these babies. But you
still go, what is that push besides the legacy that
keeps you going?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's my passion for what I do. I love being
an artist. I love performing. I love traveling the world
and you know, meeting my fans and meeting new people
and you know, learning different languages, and you know, I
have an appreciation for what God has blessed me to do,
and that is to be an artist and plus all
(16:14):
the other things that you know that I'm fortunate to
be a part of. It's that like heartbeat. It's like
that that that beat like it's a it's a it's
a beat that that's like it's like what is it
like to the beat of your own drum? Like it's
a it's a drum pattern that I feel like the
things that I'm doing like it's feeding me, Like it's
(16:36):
like music movement within itself, you know. And so those
are the things that I love doing. They fill my cup.
They are part of my identity, right and so I'm
I'm so so blessed, like I'm not gonna you know,
front like it's a blessing that I get to wake
up every day knowing that I'm doing exactly what I
want to do. Like if that's something I could wish
for every person in this world or anyone, is that
(17:00):
I want to do what you love because the truth
is that when you do what you love, you never
work a day in your life. And or if that's
how it feels, and I think it's like i CC
sets goals like I set goals and I'm trying to
achieve those goals So that's a big part of my
motivation too, right, And I just feel more empowered, you know,
the little more I played in life, Like I love that,
(17:23):
you know, I get to go from the stage to
the classroom with my babies. Literally I was performing in London.
It was like, I don't know, almost thirty thousand people,
and I mean that was like insane love that London
showed me was amazing. But literally the next day or
like the after I left London, I was humbled and
I was in that classroom like, Okay, what do I
(17:44):
need for the kids? They need this, this and this
and this. Wow, you know, and then Russ has football.
I like being there for him, Like these are blessings,
all of them are blessings. Like I said, I was like, listen,
we ain't stressed out, we blessed out. It's perspective, you know.
But I just love what I do and it's big
part of my identity. And I think that as women especially,
(18:06):
you know, you have to fill your cup. You have
to do things that you know that that feeds you
what you need. And these things feed me. Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now, is there anything else like in your downtime? Because
you have so many things going on. You're an artist,
you're an entrepreneur, you have skincare line, you have a
spirits line, you have so many different things that you
that you have your hands in. How do you balance
it all with the children and then taking time for Sierra?
What do those moments look like when you're like, Okay,
this is my time or do you even get that?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I'm actually trying to master that a little better
because I do sometimes take the greatest hit within my schedule,
right and reference to like me time, But schedule is everything.
I was literally just talking to Dimples on my team
and I was saying, I want to walk through how
we're going to do a couple of promo days so
we can stack some things because I'm like, I got
to give myself for a little room to breathe. Yes,
(18:56):
but I'm so hungry.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's the drive, like I'm hustling right now, and there's
something that's really fun about it. But also life is
important too, so I really do try to master it
by my schedule, Like I schedule, you know, whether it's
like and again, sometimes you go off the beating path,
but it may be like these four hours or my
time with my kids. Yes, okay, then after that I
(19:19):
have two calls, and then after that I go do
you know, to the gym or and then after that
I go to date night with us. Like my days,
I get to like schedule them, even the personal time.
So that way, I'm also intentional with carving out the time.
If I don't have a schedule, then it's like we're
just kind of what they say, Willy Niely, like we
(19:40):
just kind of phrase stylling. And that's when it gets
really crazy because before you look up, time passes you by,
and sometimes, like you know, I do really master being
punctual with my flow, like I'm just efficient, and I'm
also looking forward to date night. I'm looking forward to
just blocks of times to put my phone down, be
(20:01):
with my babies, like because I have to. But I
would recommend to any mom schedules you know. Yeah, that's
like changing.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't have children, but my life is
I have to, like at nighttime, I kind of go
through everything I have to do, and then even like
the insulary things that I have to kind of pencil
in in between my mandatory things. I have to put
it all in the schedule so in the morning I
can look at and be like, Okay, got it, this
is what I got.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's game changing, is that structure and the intentionality of
making sure that you make time for what's important.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah. And you know what I'm trying to really master.
Excuse me, I'm trying to master rest. Come on here, Yeah,
because rest is so vital. Yes, And I never knew
I needed rest until like these stages, at this stage
or in my life. We gotta get rest, you know.
Sleeping is vital for like health. I have gotten sick
(20:57):
twice within the shortest timeframe that I ever have. I'm like, okay, now, okay, God,
Now I hear you Lord, and then my body I
hear you body. So I need to like make sure I, like,
you know, do that too, because your body gets to recover.
Your body can like endure everything when you're grinding, you know,
trying to work on building my immune system, like all
(21:17):
these things are vital. So I'm really trying to like
level up my rest. I'm trying to level up like
my my immune my immunization or am I saying that right?
My immunity, like my care. Yeah, I'm trying to make
sure I'm like doing these things that are gonna also
feed me too. I really want to master like resting.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's so good because our industry has its whole entire
sleep when you're dead, and it's like, no, you're gonna
die if you don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But that is true. It's big facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, are you like a night time I know in
the studio a lot of people work better like in
the wee hours of the morning. I'm not like that.
I have to have like daytime hours when when you're recording.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
When are you used to do the wee hours? Actually
did wee hours last night? This is the craziest thing.
I came from Africa. We traveled for seventeen hours I landed,
I went to go to do the Boys and Girls Club,
the why Not You centers. Then I went from there
to a podcast taping, and then I went from there
to the studio, and we were up to like almost
(22:20):
one o'clock in the morning. See here, two o'clock, she said,
two o'clock in the morning. So that's like an abnormal night. Okay.
But I did that again because I knew, Okay, today
I'm gonna come see you, and then I'm gonna, you know,
have the rest of my I have like a couple
more things I have to do in this day, work
work related. And then when I get home, I got
(22:42):
to go into mommy and also hubby WiFi mode, you know,
so I had to like I'm being strategic again, Like
my babies aren't here, Russ is working doing this thing. Okay,
now Mama can like grind it out, you know. But
normally I like to work early, so like if my
kids were at I do studio. When I was young,
I didn't do that. I worked to the wee hours.
(23:03):
But now it's like take the kids to school studio
at nine o'clock, which is so like crazy how life
falls like that. But I'd like to try to get
my heavy stub out the way early in the day.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's good. It's so important. And I go, we get
so caught up in like just loving what we do
that we forget because it's like it's literally it's feeding us,
it's keeping us away, and it's like, oh, I haven't slept.
I need to eat even eat.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yes, and I love to eat me love, Oh my gosh. Okay,
So I always sound Blexican because you know, black and Mexican.
I love Mexican food. I'm also Blazian. I love Asian food. Yes,
those will be my top two cuisines, and also Italian.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Italians my favorite it's fire, yes.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And I love carbs, like, help me, lord, I need
a mass of that too, because I swear I feel
like every meal deserves a carb and that's just not
the way to so I gotta work on that. But
I love eating. It's just it's so fun. Like eating
is like, you know, it's community, like it's you know,
it's it's just everything really. And I'm from Atlanta, you know, Yeah,
(24:16):
we do everything with seasoning. But yeah, but lorry's all
that stuff, you know, So it's kind of what I
how I grew up. Every Sunday was like Thanksgiving out
the church, you know, and like every other day it's
like Thanksgiving. So it's just in me. I do love food.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
You love food, but your body is always tea.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
How oh, thank you so much. I try. Okay, So
after my baby girl and more my last baby I have,
I still haven't gotten all the way back to my
base weight. And at one point in time, it's funny
because I weigh the same weight as Russow, so she
I gain the most with her, and it's honestly it's hard,
(24:56):
but I will say this. What I do try to
do is moderation. Yeah, stop when you're full, and it's hard,
like when food is good, it's hard to stop, but
moderation is key. Right. So sometimes I realized I went
a little too crazy. Let me like dial it back.
This evening, I try to eat just fish and veggies like,
but I have to literally talk to myself like, don't
(25:17):
do it, don't do it, don't do it, like that's
how bad it is. But it's really bad. Oh my gosh,
yeah exactly, I did it right, yeah, you know, and
also tons of water like when you're training, you know,
I did this thing with my nutrition is years ago,
and he did a body mass index calculation on me,
(25:38):
checking your muscle mass and like all these different things.
And he gave me like the water ratio versus like
my weight and all that stuff. So when I'm trying
to come down, like sometimes I'm drinking a gallon and
almost a half when I gained like seventy five pounds, right,
so it's like you're just being mindful of like your
water intake. Those things matter, but moderation.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, when you're think you look up amazing, like to
wait for a baby more. I was like, this girl
looks so good, but that I knew you were thicker
than normal? Was E ever a mama where you looked
at the man and was like or were you like
I see your girl?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I gonna lie. I loved every step of the way good.
And you know what it is, I got to give
my husband some love because Russ really made me feel
even more like, Okay, I'm liking my curd. Put a
cup on it kind of babe, you know, because he
was like he tells me, and I was like, don't
you get too crazy because he likes my hips, you know,
so that makes me feel good. Right, it's like that stuff,
(26:33):
you know, Can I give us ladies a little okay?
And absolutely, Q okay, we can. We can appreciate these
extra little you know grips or you know rippers, whatever
you want to call it. So no, it's really sweet.
And I think there's something too about like where you
are in your life, Like I love having a little
(26:54):
more on me. You know, I've always been a little smaller,
but I like it. I like all the jeans me
and I'm liking it.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You look good. Yeah, no, I saw it and I
was like, sexy is looking good? Thank you? No, for sure,
you just gave props to your husband Wrussell. You guys
are a couple goals. Like everybody all the women are
praying your prayers. Oh my gosh, I was like, when
she comes out, needs her to pray over.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Oh my gosh. It's such funny.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
But you both have your own careers, your own lives.
How has it been managing the relationship and now having
a family, But still like you're doing your thing and
he's doing his thing. How do you guys? What are
those conversations? Like, all right, babe, we gotta how do
we keep together?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, communication is really important. And you know what's really
great is that with him doing football, his world is
more structured. Yes, my world I can kind of like
plan around his world. So that is, like you know,
I would say, is a blessing and the dynamic of
what we do. And we're just really big on like
you know, communicating like he knows my schedule, like he
(27:56):
tell me my schedule back. Sometimes I can even tell
it myself, you know. But we're really you know, lock
and step on that, you know, and we find ways
to stay connected even when we're a part, whether it's
like watching a show. We have a thing like you
can't watch the show without the other, right when you're
in two different places. But if we're going to do it,
we're watching it like simultaneously, like they put your computer
(28:18):
on you, you know, so we don't have the sound,
you know, So we'll do little things like that or
like you know, we really do work on coordinating things
as best as possible. And I think that that's like
the game changer against schedule, Like it's huge, right, so
we kind of know, Okay, I'm going to be going
these amount of days or you know, if he has
(28:39):
to do something same thing, but we're like mapping out
so we can like make sure it comes back to us.
Like we're very intentional, you know, even date nights, like
we do date nights every Friday when he's in the season.
And I've been a big belief like that little thing,
you know, or that I don't little, but that moment
(28:59):
has been like game changing for us over the years,
I think, because one, I'm always looking forward to it.
You're not forgetting to date each other. Yes, you got
to do that, right, We always talk about that. He
always says you got to always compete, you know, like
that was one of his things that he and I
like that idea because it's like searching for the beginning,
always searching for the beginning, like when we first met
(29:20):
up my kid. But I'm aware of it. You know,
you still want to do yeah, you know it's still
it keeps it exciting, you know. So it's it's honestly
just being intentional. I would say. That's the thing, Like
we both want our love to be as sweet and
fool as it can be, and so we're very intentional
(29:40):
about achieving that. Now we don't get it right all
the time, you know, but we the place that we
come from is it's the foundation is set and it's clear,
and so yeah, we're very very intentional.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I love that. And your relationship is built on the
foundation of God.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh my gosh, Us at the center.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
When we first got engaged and say, shells, he actually
the first thing that we did is we went and
we prayed, and you know, he actually initiated, you know,
the the thought of you know, having Jesus at the center.
And I really love you. I want to cry. I
don't know why I be up here crying like this.
(30:19):
I have been like on Ail a chapter of tears.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Let's not get crazy right now, Okay, I I really
have been like an emotional like.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah it is it's gratitude, you know. But that was
really sweet and powerful to have that you know, connection
or like in that very moment, like that's the foundation
we're going to set this on. Like and it's honestly real,
Like having Jesus at the center is significant because when
man leans on man listen, that's when it gets murky.
(31:03):
We start trying to be like, well, I feel it's like, hey,
what does God want? You know, where is the spirit
in all this? Like, where is the you know, go
to the place of love. When we do that, like
it brings everything back down like to like the right place,
you know, so, and I think that's huge. It is,
you know, especially in our world, like it's our worlds
(31:24):
are crazy, like hectic and like fast moving and convenient
like you know, so it's like okay, whenever we have
a little funky something like the spirit is what brings
us back. It brings us like back to where we
need to be and it takes both right. Like we
were saying, we have certain like rules too, like the
(31:44):
past our pastors jud who actually officiated our wedding and
he's in one of our he's like amazing, but he,
you know, talked about like how in relationships, like you
can have an idea where you never say the D word,
like you never.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Say yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And then also you say you gotta be able like
when you make the mistake or you cause the turn
up or the friction, you gotta be able to say
will you forgive me? And that is hard because I'm stubborn.
I'd be like if people forgive me because I went wrong,
(32:23):
and then I might be wrong. It's like see her
just say it, like I'm talking about it, like just
say it. Rolling my eyes, like I don't want to
say it, just say it. You better say. You know,
it's a whole thing like that is hard they think
to be like will you forgive me? You know, but
it's like it's game changing, it is right, and we
both have that understanding. Like those little things, you know,
(32:44):
they're really they're really helpful.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, and it's beautiful that you can because asking for
forgiveness is not only an humbling state, but it's also
very vulnerable to like look at yourself in the mirror
and say, wait a minute, this is me. I messed up.
And to be able to go to the person and
then that, you know, so the fact that you are
so comfortable with each other to allow each other to
see each other in that state is so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, and I think it. It feels good when someone
takes accountability, right, you know, you don't want.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
To Breezy exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, okay, And I'll get rust credit. He does pretty
good with coming back around, Like we were saying, the
day he gets like more worked up, I get very quiet,
you know, like when he raises his voice. It's funny
because like you know, his love remind like reminds me
of like my dad's love, right, and I remember like
my dad would like reprimand me, like the tone of
(33:35):
the voice was just like enough to make you go, yeah,
you're just crumble. And so if he gets like about
it's like and depending on what it is, I'll be like,
you know, I just sit back where you going with this,
you know, like or I might feel like you don't
have all these different feels, you know, but like he
typically is the one that could like get a little
(33:57):
more turned up with me. I get quiet turned like,
you know, yeah no, but he's so you know, he's
really good about like him come back around like you know,
so I'll give him that. He does that really well. Okay,
I love you tell you.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Know, I love that is so beautiful. Now, word on
the street is that y'all started a matchmaking service.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh my lord, we did not start a matchmaking.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Service because we're trying to sign the people are like
we're doing we should actually like think about this thing.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Let me tell you. We love seeing our friends experience love. Yeah,
we have fun, like and we're just so blessed. We
have a really great group of friends, Like you know,
in all different parts of the world, and I for me,
like especially with my girls. I'm like, I just want
my girls to be happy, like if that's what they want, right,
(34:54):
you know, Like I have a I don't want to
call her out, but I have someone. I have a
dentist in my life. Oh my gosh, I'm not gonna
say her name. She was like Sierra, but like she's
so like sweet smart boss, owns her own dentist, dentistry
like business like she has. She's amazing, like great vision,
(35:16):
and like she's you know, single, and I'm like, Okay,
we've got to figure this out. Like so I will
be like on the search. I love it because I'm like,
she is a queen and she deserves a king. Like yes,
that's my mentality, right, So I just love trying to
help in any way that I can. We both love it.
We have been very fortunate to introduce people, and that's
(35:41):
the funds Cocoa and Okay, so wait we did not, Okay,
so they just assume that they Okay, so this is
what happened. What happened, Okay, So Coco and Donovan shouted
both of them, and I'm so happy for you, my girl,
Cocoa is the sweetest she is, and Donovan is so
cool and and just amazing, And Russ and don even
have their boyflow. Honestly, they've been having their whole like
(36:03):
boyflow for some time, like low key behind the scenes,
and I love that, Like I love how the men
connect on that kind of stuff. But basically, you know,
the fellas are over there doing their thing, Russ and Donovan.
And Russ has like he's really obviously I think he's
the best on the field, but off the field, he
(36:23):
has like this creative mind that runs wild with a
lot of cool ideas. So he actually has a company
West to East Lux where he's doing like providing luxury
like experiences and stuff like that. So it's his passion
for him. But basically, him and Donovan connected and all
of a sudden, I look up and like Russ is like,
we set this up, blah blah blah, Like he had
(36:44):
the whole like they were doing the whole thing planning
the engagement for him and Cocos. So it's just so sweet,
you know, and so we're just really happy for them.
It's so beautiful and it's just amazing, Like God's good.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
He is so good. He is so good. At BT
Media House, you stopped by Jim Jones interview and he said,
you need to I think it was steal it properly. Yes,
that let me know that you love.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I was totally you know, sometimes that's just me. I
think it's my passion to just like want, you know,
the best for people and listen, you know, I don't
know them from a can of pain, but I just
remember my last memories of them and knowing that they've shared,
you know, their journey with the world. And I think
(37:37):
the greatest thing that we all have to remember is
that imperfect love. Like in imperfect love, that's where the
perfection is. Yeah, you know, it's like there's not a
perfect way to do love. The perfect way to do
love is just to love and the best way that
you can and to love right. And that doesn't mean
you can always get it right. And that doesn't mean
(37:58):
you can have the perfect story where you went through
this phase, this phase, this phase and now it's wila.
Some people go through a phase it's amazing, then it
falls flat and it comes back again, then it goes.
Everyone's love story is their own.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It is, yeah, and that's what makes it beautiful.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, and there's no judgment in love, right, And so
I think that when I saw, you know, when I
was in that moment, I just was it was from
a place of love absolutely, you know, and just you know,
wanting uh, you know, something beautiful from my perspective, or
wanting that, you know, for the people that I've loved
watching on TV, like you know, y'all got to do this.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I was like, it's fashion properly. And I felt it
because I'm hopeless romantic, I love love, and I'm on
this new journey really being more intentional about my walk
with Christ in my Bible, and through that, God convicted
me on sex. So I stopped having sex. And because
I wanted to. I want to love the way God
(38:56):
intended and I wanted to do it properly. When so
when I heard you say steal it properly, I'm like, exactly, like,
because that's that was my conviction. God was like, you're
doing it wrong, Like this is not how I designed this.
I need you to trust me, and do you trust
me to bring you love the way I intended it
so that you're not continuously getting hurt?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, So I felt that I didn't take any I
didn't read it as judgment. I was like, I'm with
her because she's all about it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, steal it, you know. I mean I think that
we owe that to ourselves, you know, and I think
that when you know, it always hurts, like in general,
like you know, we live in this era and I
don't wanna say era because this has been like it's
just a new word that they coin it like love bombing,
you know, which is not writing because oftentimes for us
as women, excuse me, Okay, so when guys see a girl,
(39:45):
it's exterior first. Yes, when we see a man, it's
interior and exterior. We see you on the front, like, okay,
you look amazing, but like what is he Like, Like
we started like fantasizing and thinking about like, you know,
is he a family used to be thinking about all
of these things.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Literally instantly we're like, yeah, you map it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Through and you you think in your mind through all
those things, and sometimes too, like a guy can mishandle
you know where we are, and that's like crushing. Feel
like you've set back, you know what I mean, Like
it's like a blowback because we're going with the right intentions,
but then a guy has different intentions and like it's like, man,
you just wasted a chunk of my life. Yeah, just
(40:22):
waste a chunk of my time. Like I'm I'm really rolling,
like I'm really like in this thing and you over
here kind of plan like now we're just losing a
little time.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Like what we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But I can relate to where you are in your
life in reference to just like causing like wanting to
like be very intentional with yourself, your body. You know,
how you're loving on yourself like being you know, set
to me, like you talk about prayer, Like prayer really works,
it does, right, And I do think there's something about
(40:54):
when we start to envision who we want to be
within ourselves and we cement it with prayer, like the
evolution starts to happen like overnight, Oh.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
My goodness, Herera seriously gotta be moving fast. It's like
what I just I.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Just said that, And it trickles down to everything. It
could be like in your business, it.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Can be your podcast and see her is here, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
It can be just even if somebody's off in your
friend circle, like just when you start to be like
in tune with yourself. Yeah, and you start to pour
into yourself, like everything starts to become more clear, and
you start to walk with a different pet like you
start to feel like you know, it's like okay, hold up,
my shoulder starts to get taller, like my walk starts
(41:41):
to get more like like, Okay, she know who she is,
Like she know where she want to go. She ain't
there yet, but she gonna get there. Like that's the
kind of mentality you start to have. So I love
you know, I love like what you're saying, and I
relate to what you're saying. And I think that the
season for things, right, this season you're talking about is
like Okay, this is before this season is important. Yeah,
(42:05):
very this season you're talking about it is important because
like you know, like when we do that, when we
make commitments to ourselves and like what we're trying to
do and trying to evolve, like we got to really
like okay, let's do it. Yes, right, And then I
swear to you like God is so good. The blessings
start to overflow. Yes, you know, they come. Yeah, And
(42:25):
like I was saying to somebody, to someone the other day,
it's like you want to be right, yeah right, you know,
so like I love that.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah. Ari Lennox, she had just posted something about she's
been upstaining from sex. She's posted on Instagram and she's like,
I'm staying from sex, but it's hard dating guys because
that's all they want, yea, And she said, it just
seems like we're not winning the girls who are trying
to just do think date right the right way. So
I DM there and I was like, listen, I'm in
the same boat with you. So we exchanged information because
(42:53):
we have been known each other for since earlier this year.
And she's like, you too, yeah voice. I was like
me too. So you're just having the friendship.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
The circle, Oh my gosh, the circles that you surround
yourself are really important. Who you share information with when
you're vulnerable is really important because what they say back
to you can impact your life so significantly. You can
have a friend that encourages you to do the right thing,
and one then encourages you, encourages you to do the
bad thing, and when you're vulnerable, sometimes you go with
(43:22):
the bad thing because like that's how the devil works.
It is, you know, like the feeling can feel like
that's the right thing, but it's the wrong thing. Yes,
So who advises you is really important.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
So important. And I was in a state like that
last year where I've been open about it. I was
kind of running from Jesus. I was like, you know,
like I just felt like I just want to be
me and I was trying to straddle the fans around
like I want to like be me, and it wasn't
aligning with where.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
No man, yes, lean on your owner. And I was
But you know what you made me think about to
you when you're talking about you know, abstaining and like
that phase you're in the right guy will respect it
and the right guy will appreciate it and like will
hold your hand with you. Yes, that's what I do know, right,
(44:10):
I know that for a fact. Okay, like you know,
I can cry again, but I know that right that
the right person. You know, listen, we're not perfect, you know,
not going to always you know, say everything perfectly and
do everything perfectly. But the right person like they're going
(44:30):
to wait for you, and they're going to respect you,
and they're going to you know, be patient with you.
And when they're thinking like rus and we talk about
being equally yoked. Like that's a game changer, right, because
that already already changes the playing field. Now we're we're
operating from the same platform, same foundation perspective, Like now
(44:51):
we can really go up together, you know, because yeah,
like we're you know what I'm saying. So it's like
that's the thing, right, And I think there's a difference
between boys, boys and men, right, you know, so like men,
they're gonna wait for you, they're gonna be patient with you,
they gonna put the time in, they're gonna send you flowers,
(45:12):
they're gonna think of you. It's gonna be the little
things that are gonna actually make the biggest difference. But
they're gonna be so intentional because they real men. Like
that's so, you know, I think that to me is
also something I learned in life through my journey. Right,
there's a difference between boys and men.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, and you're raising young men
and a daughter, Like, how is that like seeing your
images of you walking around the house and instilling these
principles into them.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Oh, my gosh, it is the best. Being a mom
is the best job, the best job on earth because
it is a job okay, So I'm gonna shout out
all I don't care if you stay at home mom,
like it is work. Yeah okay, but I wouldn't have
my life any other way. And I think, you know,
(45:59):
it's fun. And you know Sienna, especially little.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
CC baby so much personality.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
See boys, she be coming hat okay, but she loves
me so much, like and I'm like looking at him,
like I'm seeing she's going through this interesting face. She
just wants to do everything with me and like me,
and I'm like, wow, like what a gift? What a
how sweet is that my daughter looks at me and
she like looks up to me, like wow, that is
(46:27):
so precious, Like, you know, God, like, please help me
to be the best example I can be for her.
Please help me to teach her the best way possible.
Please give me the words to say to her when
she's gonna need it the most, like please let her
feel comfortable to come and leave my shoulder, you know,
when she's gonna need it the most. Like that's what
I hope for with my baby, my baby girls. And
(46:48):
like like I said I was saying to JV earlier,
I was like I'm out here ground like it's the
early two thousands, and she is not feeling it. Like
she had the greatest cry the other day and I'd
never seen her do that before because she didn't want
me to travel. But I do hope that when she
sees Mommy can do it, I can do it.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I hope that for Mauramora is just one years old.
She's like twenty months now, and this girl is one
going on twenty one for sure, Like I think she's
gonna be really confident too, love it. So I just
hope that they both will look at mommy that way.
And I just pray over our bond and our boys.
You know, I think they get to see how Dad
(47:27):
loves me. You know, I think that's important. You know.
I hope that they also get to, you know, have
the right perspective on me, you know, like when it
comes to them meeting a lady in their lives. Like,
you know, it's an interesting dynamic with boy and girl.
But it's a blessing that I have both. You know.
It's it's NonStop. Boys think everything is a jungle gym.
(47:51):
Maybe yeah, he'll be eating food in a case of
dealing'll be like like jumping from I'm like, what we
doing right? And see she said, I don't do hair
and makeup. That like there's a clear dynamic between both
of them, both you know, boy and girl. But I
do get the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, the state of the world that we're in, I
have a fear of bringing children into this world. When
you're raising children, is there ever like fear that creeps
in as they're leaving the house, Like what influences are
gonna interact with them as they leave the house?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
One That's why I'm trying to really work on communicating
even more at home because we come from the air.
I'm not sure if you feel this way, but I
feel like we came from the era where a lot
of conversations were just like you don't talk about them,
absolutely right. It can be sex conversations, it can be
you know how just anything like if you know, we
(48:41):
just wouldn't like talk about things. And so for me,
I'm trying to really challenge myself to create a lot
of communication and also tell them about things before the
world tells them because oftentimes, unfortunately kids go to school
and they get information right, you know, and like that's
never good in most cases because they're like sponges and
(49:02):
they absorb so easily they do, so, you know, I
try to find the fine balance between like what we
talk about and how far we go with things, but
also equipping them for the world because it is a
whole new world.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
It is.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
It is really so interesting when we were growing up.
I'm like, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, And they have so much access now to things
that we didn't have access to growing up.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
They do, they do, you know. But I think if
we talk about things, like, you know, try to avoid
as many surprises as possible for them, Like when they
go in the world, it's like, okay, mom, we talked
about that. My mom told me, like I know what
that is. And they can also know, like they need
to be able to know stuff if someone's telling them.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
But like, no, that's not right. Yeah, that's so true.
That's good. I love that.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Here.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Thank you so much. Congratulations on your new element. You're
driving super excited about everything you have going on. Make
sure you guys go buy her rum. It is ten
to one rum and then you have a skin care line.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
So you can go to omskin dot com. But I
also wanted to share with my friends, my fans and
just the customers that have been like the best supporters
with OM in particular, is that I'm one of this.
I'm on a mission to keep evolving in this space.
So I'm also even though it's me, my my business
is still really small, so I go go through those
(50:25):
growing pains that a lot of small business owners go through,
and yeah, and it's a beast. So there is an
evolution that's happening behind the scenes with OM. And so
because you're probably like, what's my posting cadence, like it's
it's like it's slowing down. Like if you're a true
fan of OEM, you're probably like, Okay, what's happening. But
what fortunately did happen for me is a lot of
(50:45):
my SKUs sold out multiple times, so that was great,
and our subscription subscription world has been amazing and growing.
But now people when they go to omskin dot com,
you'll see I have my serum and my writing pads,
and those were two of are like strongest sellers. And
so luckily I have a great amount of inventory. So
I tell everybody to get it while it lasts, because
(51:06):
OEM is about to evolve and I have new formulations
that I'm working on and it's super exciting. I'm using
them every day. I honestly can't go without them. Thank
you so much. So yeah, I'm excited, good amazing.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Before we leave, I want to play a quick quick
game love it or leave it? All right? The first
one is five am workouts leave it?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Well, I do it, yeah, but leave it. Group chats
love it?
Speaker 1 (51:35):
You love it? Who's in your group chat?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Okay, it's funny because okay, my group chat with my girls.
We have one with me law V. Yeah, we have
mel V sometimes Melvy and Kelly. Yeah, that's my girls
and also my best fend of makeup artist, Yolanda. I
(51:58):
have to shout her out because she's been in my
career since I was my very first professional shoot really
when I was sixteen years old. So we have our
sometimes it might be me La Yolie. I'd be between
Russ and I. We've been doing multiple group chats. It
depends on the topic, right, It's just like our flow.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. Long phone calls or text messages.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
You see the phone for a long time, Well do
you leave it? You said love it or leave it? Right? Oh?
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, so yeah, long phone calls.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, I love it with my love love it.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
I love it. I love chatting.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
What's the longest you like? Looked in like, oh my gosh,
you were on the home phone for three hours.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
No, babe, do not kill me. See this is one
thing we ain't even doing lately. But you know, we've
been busy or whatever, so I would get that gay.
But in our early days especially, we fall asleep on
the phone on the face time and then you wake
up and then he's there.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
That's a long time TikTok, dead streams love it.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, I knew you love that. I love it. Sierre,
Thank you so much. Thank you are amazing. This was
incredible to sit down and talk to you. I'm so
glad we were able to make this happen.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Me too. This was so much fun and congratulations to
you on all your success. Thank you. Everyone loves to
see what you talk about.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Thank you, Thank you. They're gonna love this one. Let's
go all right. Thank you. So today I am wearing
silver Wave bo sandals. These are my favorite new sandals,
low Wave shorts, a Balenciaga Crosstie shirt, Scaparelli earrings, and
(53:42):
my signature jeey fou fou bou bow. Yeah. I cannot
believe we just had this moment with the mention of gratitude.
I'd like to take this moment to thank you, my sweeties.
You all have supported this platform, You've grown with me,
and I am truly, truly thankful. Remember we ain't stressed out.
(54:05):
We blessed out in the meantime in between time. Keep
it positive, CDs.
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