The Ministry of Storytelling w/ Mignon Von

This week joining us is actress and radiant spirit Mignon Von.

We have beautifully layered conversation about what it means to live with intention, abundance, and alignment. We share our journeys of navigating Hollywood expectations and the spotlight.

Mignon, is a bold woman of faith who opens up about identity, womanhood, and what it really means to want better than you've seen.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, Christopher,
and this is a keep it positive, sweetish show. Sweeties,
have you ever met someone who doesn't just show up?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
They shift the room?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, we are talking impact. Today's episode is all about
that quiet power, that loud purpose, and that kind of
presence that leaves the mark after you've walked away. Because
cute is cool, but impact is forever. Let's get into it.
This is keep it positive, sweetie. Today's guest is someone
I not only admire on screen, but deeply respect offscreen.

(00:36):
She's bold, she's funny, she's real, and you know, she's
one of those women who brings that light with.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Her everywhere she goes.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You might know her as seen stealing Danny from Tyler
Perry's Sisters, but trust me, Mignon Vond is so much
more than a character. She's a storyteller, a creative and
a woman of faith. She has worked her way up
in this industry with grit and grace and that signature
Minyon Sparkle. I am so excited to have this honest,
joyful and impactful conversation with my sister today.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Sweetyes, Please give a warm welcome to Mignon, my sister
have now the people have been wanting this one. I know. No,
thank you for coming, thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'm so excited happy we could make their dreams come true.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know. See this is what we do once again.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
No people every week they're like, we want more of
Danny and Fatima. When are we gonna get some Fanny
or Fanny Fatima? Yeah, Fanny, I think that'd be our nickname,
Datima Datima.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Because the teama was like the team too exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, and we make a really good team like we do.
I do coming out, put it together.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I love it. Thank you so much. Thank you. We
when we're working, we don't get to talk as much.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
In the past few seasons, we didn't have a lot
of work together the past. Now, like I think the
last two seasons we filmed, we've actually got to work
more together.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
We built our own relationship, our own language.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Like I can just look at her and you like,
and I know exactly what she's talking about. It's so
funny of like you guess she's like, I'm like, got it.
I read I read all that, I.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Read it all talk about how I go mute, I
do have like I just start kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, but she has mumble core. She likesumed him up.
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
At time we did it, I was like, I didn't
understand anything but everything.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
The crazy thing is me and my brother had that language.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
So I guess you really are my sister because he's
the only one that understands me and you.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Now, my mom was like, what are y'all talking about?
Like he's like, is that Tennessee? It must be. It
must be. I don't know what it is, but that's why. Yeah,
I mumble and you get it. Yeah, I love it.
I love it. It don't even matter.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
It's like just she's telling y'all that the pickup is wrong.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I love it. So because we haven't got we worked.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
When we're working, we are working, And I was like,
I really want to sit down and talk to you
and even for the audience to get to know you more,
because the times that we have talked have been so
enriching for me learning more about your faith.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
We had financial talks.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
We talked about so much like in our breaks, it's
like what about this, and who do you use for this?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
What we like?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
We talk about so many different things so much. No,
you've got impeccable taste.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Thank you, so thank you, thank you so much. But
that's what it's about.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
We talked about in our prayer about not gatekeeping and
making sure that we're sharing the knowledge and this season
not gaykeep.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I don't for what somebody told me.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Hello, Why why should I take what somebody else gave
me and keep.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
It all to myself? Yeah, yep, that's it. You got it.
That's it, you got it.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
We know.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I wanted to have you on so we can learn
more about you because when we are working, we don't
really get to dive into those things. So I was like,
let's have me on so we can really dive in,
you know, dive into who you are, some of your
goals and everything, just so we can know more about
who you are. So you started. You were born in DC,
raised in DC, and then raised.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
In Georgia, oh. Raised in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Augusta Augusta, Georgia, Austa, born in DC, raising Augusta.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I did go to the Masters last year. We did.
It was crazy, was it. I've never been with Mercedes.
We need to.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
We need to make that heaven because you're driving Mercedes.
Come on, now, make it.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
With Mercedes like an ambassador or something.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yep, so we don't make that. Heaven, don't get.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Driving Mercedes. That's a double win right there. You need
to go to the Master's next year. It's an experience
of a lifetime. I got to go and Tiger was there,
so it was like, really, dope.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well that's the thing like growing up in Augusta and
literally lived down the street from the golf course, which
I might as well live a world away because you know,
you know, it's an exclusive club.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So and I was like child whatever, I'm trying to
get out of Augusta and go.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
To La anyway, Right, seriously, what was it like as young? Mean, like,
were you always did you know you were funny? When
did you realize that you had this knack for actor
and even wanted to act?

Speaker 3 (05:27):
So I always say that it was annoying with like acting,
I didn't necessarily know I was funny until a certain age.
But like the thing about acting, it just it was understood.
I was watching I used to love Muppet Babies, and
you know how there's the you know, rolling credits and
like there's ms Piggy just being an actor, like, oh,

(05:49):
that's what I do.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
And I was like three, so it was just annoing.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Wow, before there was an understanding of what being an actor,
of being Hollywood or movie star was. So I actually
tried to get away from it. I thought I was
going to be a biologists. I thought I was going
to go into psychology just because of different struggles and
traumas and insecurities. And then eventually I was just like nah, shouting.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
For a reason.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, what were some of those struggles and traumas that
you went through to that got you to that knowledge?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Shoddy, you got this well?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Just so I went to Peppernine University for film school, graduated,
had a hard time finding a job in film, so
I worked in a nonprofit world. Eventually got a job
in TV. I used to work on Dance with the Stars. Really,
I was a pair. I've been a PA, A production coordinator,
post production coordinator, coordinating producer, story assistant on short films.
Like with other people's short films, I've been like an

(06:42):
a D. I've been, of course a PA.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
May I did not know, ma'am, our stories are so parallel.
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, but like I just I tried to work behind
the camera. Then I was like Okay, I can work
behind the camera and event put myself and stuff. Because
of them, you know, you experience rejection in life, and
you experience trauma, and you experience being told, oh that's
not for you. Delta Burke was Delta Burke like, you

(07:12):
don't get to be your size and do this. How
many people your size are doing this, you know, and
so it's like okay.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
So I was like, all right, I'll just make my
own stuff. And then.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Doors started closing and I started fasting, like in my twenties.
And one of the times I was fasting, I was
reading the book called The Alchemists. Well listening to it,
that is one of my favorite books. It's absolutely one
of my favorite.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I tell people to read it at the beginning of
every year.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Top five, you know, I think it should be a
ritual for me as well.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
It's so good because Paulo Coela, I think that's how
you pronounce his last name.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean, he's also a believer.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
So it's just like understanding our journey, our life path
is just really important.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And that book really helped you in like.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Visual storytelling, to understand your own personal hero's journey. And
so anyway, so just kind of starting that.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
It was so at that time, it was kind of
like the call to adventure because my brother was kind
of pouring into me.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I was fascinating. I was like, God, just tell me
if this is for me or not.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
My brother was like, remember that little girl who had
these dreams and she and Carolin by thought and when
you were a child, and then there's you get to
that part in the Book of the Alchemist where it says, well,
if a child tells you and a dream, then it's true.
And I put all those things together and I was like, Okay,
we'll move back to Atlanta. They'll see them LA trained.

(08:41):
I'll get all the jobs.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Because that's the move, right people. They can go to
LA and come here. They're gonna definitely hire me. Doors
will open, so fly open zero zero my goodness.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Nothing.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
But that's because God was like, take acting classes, get back, really,
get back to it, because even when I was in college,
I was taking acting classes, but I still focused on
film studies.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
He was like, no, you need to go after this hard.
And then I did that. You know, I think I
really knew I was funny because like in school, I
knew I was funny. I knew I could make people laugh,
but I did improp here in Atlanta, and we would
have you know, those house teams and people come to shows,
and I would see the last I would get in
real time, and I was.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Like, okay, you know, heal a little funny. It'd be
kind of cute at this. Yes, yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
So I've always been funny, though I don't know you
are funny?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I mean, yes, I am funny. That's why people think
I'm Danny, because that's why I think I'm Danny in
real life, just because like, no, yes, I'm hilarious, but
I promise you I've not heard.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
But yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
So from moving from Los Angeles to Atlanta, all the doors,
the rejection being closed, what was that first big break
where you were.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Like, okay, we got some traction here. M really sisus
was that moment? What year? What do year did you
move to Atlanta? I'm moving back to Atlanta?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like twenty sixteen, so three years later because we got
people like twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
It was only three years, yeah, which is I mean
it felt like a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I bet do you hear me? Yeah? Because twenty eighteen,
I moved back to La, thinking, I remember you were
in LA when we started yep, I remember that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
And thinking, okay, I gotta go back to LA if
I want a real acting job, because out here you
getting day player roles, you know, get.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
In this series regular roleout right, So let me go to.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
A lot of times are passing from Los Angeles. Its big,
those the main roles. And it was pre COVID.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
So I was saying, let me go back to La,
get LA representation so I can get LA opportunity right.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Zero.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
My goodness, that was my story too, you know, I mean,
you know my story work behind scenes for all those
years and then finally got that shot. I remember the
first day we met. You came into your fitting. I
was costume designing season one, and I just loved your
character because she was she was so much fun, and
I was like, we are going to have fun with
her wardrobe.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Oh I didn't Taylor close before that, really I did not.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
When you tailored Michael, I was like, oh I have
a shape, honey, A good one too. No. Yeah, I
did not know a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
They some people just don't even know, like that's a thing,
you know, you think like, oh, I can get alterations
done on I eat something, but actually buying something and
tailor to your body can change the entire garment. Like literally,
you can get something from Walmart, y'all. Like, if you
bother on the budget, go to Walmart. You got your
aunts who know how to sew, get that thing tailored
to your body, and it may look like it's from

(11:51):
Louie okay for real, but now it's a real thing.
And I think even just knowing the woman's body and
knowing what to accentuate to like, it just it brings
out a different type of confidence, you know. But I
remember you coming in and I got to watch your audition.
I was like, oh my goodness. I was like, yeah,
this girl is funny, so funny. I saw you on

(12:13):
tape and I was like, yeah, she's got it. And
just to see where your character has gone from then
to now has just been amazing. Yeah, I want to
talk a person. Can we talk about like just the
anxiety and the the awareness that we have to have
now that we're celebrities and.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
We leave the house.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
How did you adjust from going from just mignon to
now It's like.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Danny Danny Dan like everywhere you go. It's not on
t R I him in public.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Because I I mean, I know for some people the
Lady Doth protests too much, but I'm not her, and
I am pretty shy when it comes to new people.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
I am introverted.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yes I'm funny, and yes when I'm with people I'm
comfortable with and it's like one on one, yeah, like
making jokes and I'm the life of a party. But
it's a small party, you know what I mean. It's
a party of five people I know really well. But
if it's like a big club thing, like I'm not
getting on the stage and dancing like and so I'm shy.

(13:24):
Like when a stranger runs up on me, I'm like,
it's survival mode, right, And then it's even more so
survival mode when you realize that people know who you
are in a crowd, but you don't know who they are.
That's scary, you know what I mean. And I've had
some instances that were really sweet but a little over zealous. Yeah,

(13:49):
and so it makes me I was, like I said,
I'm introverted. I've always been a homebody. I never understood
the club scene, even when I was like, you know,
in my college years, I was like, guys, we're standing
in line in heels and short skirts and it's cold.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Why are we doing this just so we can get
in for free? By eleven? Like I did not get
it right. I was the friend complaining the whole night
I was there, and so now I'm even more. But
I will say with the fame, it's like I'm in
the house.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah you know, I'm saying in the house.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
I need to be out the house because I'm gonna
meet somebody if I'm in the house.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
But that's what my friends are telling me.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
They're like, Chris, so, how do you expect to get
a man if you're always in the house? Wi you
said to your door dash man? I said, well, I'll
even go to the door for him. My directions are
leaving at the door, and then I'll watch them leave
and drive off, and.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I'm like, no, turn the corner. Do you know what
fear of.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Mine is that, Like I'm gonna open the door, They're
gonna be right there. So I'm always watching, like from
the ring and all my cameras, I'm like, okay, they've driven.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Off, all right, and grab it.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Primeal fear Primeal fear, and I feel like fame has
given me that even more so before Yeah that I
really didn't have. You have that primal instinct. But when
it comes to the fear that we have now, I know,
for me, like I've gotten death threats.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Like when you told me that, I was Yeah, it
was visceral for me when you told me that, Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's awful.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah it's scary because, like you said, I can be
in a crowd where every like I don't know who
they are, what they know, and like what if that
one person is just sitting.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
There the weirdo that Yeah, yeah, you know, you just
never know.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
So it's always having like this awareness now watching my bag,
you know, saying there's so many different things we had
to do now that we didn't have to do five
years ago, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
And that's the thing that sometimes frustrates me about my
family's advice or friend's advice, is like, do.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know how to navigate what I'm navigating? Though?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Does your advice take into consideration that you A don't
know how to navigate what I'm navigating and b how
to navigate what I'm navigating?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
And when it to friends that are in the same
field as US or like celebrities giving advice on dating.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
For me, it's more so.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Recommendations and saying, hey, I know this guy, I think
he'd be great for you, Like that's kind of how
I navigate it. But I have other friends that do
dating sites. I try that didn't work for me, so
I'm very much like I need somebody to know you,
so if you try something crazy, at least I'm like,
you said this guy was good, but he's not. And

(16:30):
I tried Riyah and I was just like, I never
would like try to match with anyone, So I'm not
really that girl. But most people like that I know
either do dating sites and they've had great success with it.
I'm just kind of afraid that primal fear that I'll
be the one to swipe on a serial killer.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
With my look. I think you're right about referral.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think they say that no matter who you are,
that's still the best way to tell people, like, hey,
I'm looking for someone. Yeah, I'm in the market like
either way, so maybe that's what.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I have to do. So are you're looking? Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (17:10):
You know?

Speaker 3 (17:10):
This week I was thinking about that. I was like,
I'm so used to being by myself that I'm like,
I'm fine, you know what I'm saying, except for there's
like certain moments where it's like, oh, yeah, you wish
you had a partner with you for certain things.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
But like I tried to even.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Like I was meditating yesterday and I was just trying
to think about, you know, the things that I wanted,
and my mind was like, oh, okay, we can think
about the gentleman. And I was like, better things to
think about, like you know what I.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Mean, because I tried to like just hit every.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Air of my life and I was like, okay, you
know yeah. Because I also think there's just phrases that
you go through and like where you think about it
too much and now you're just like I'm tapped out
like this.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I'm older than you mean, so I will tell you
you don't want to get my age and be like
I should have tried to focus on that a little
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
But how do you focus on something that you can't control.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, by telling your friends, hey, I'm ready, I'm willing
to date. If you know anybody that's great, shorty, swing
on my way, because if they don't.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
I'm ready and I'm willing to day. All right, you
can send.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
The right.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
See, there's only certain people that I want to send
referrals because.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
You got listen.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Now, you can't have everybody sending referrals because everybody don't
have the I got you, I got you trus me. Yes, no,
I can't ask all my friends did because sometimes they
bring people.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I'm like, do you even know me? Do you even
know me? Do you know me?

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I don't know if I like your relationship?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Come on? Yeah, yeah, that's real because I remember being
I think a really big part of it.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Two is like I remember being like twelve thirteen, Like
I wasn't always I'm a smart dummy? Or is that
what I'm trying to say? Like I'm highly intelligent, but
I'm dumb.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Sometimes I think we all have that either we did.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Some people are just dumb, but like, yeah, some people
are really smart and intellectual but make really stupid mistakes.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
It's like, why did I.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Just because I remember being twelve thirteen fourteen trying to
break up the patriarchy and my southern Black Christian family.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
There's like a billion women in my family, but we
do so much cooking that everyone's still tired, right, Yeah,
but the.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Men sit throughout the entire holiday. Oh yeah, well we
hear us arguing about who's turning is to watch dishes.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Obviously it's the teenage girls who are arguing like that.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
But we'll see that we're tired, and we'll only get
up to get a plate that's already made for them.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Won't wash their dish, won't help.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
The only thing they will do is maybe go to
the grocery show when someone asks them to. Yeah, but
the bulk of the grocery shopping is done by my
grandmother before we get there. Like, and I just remember
being like smart, saying, well, why don't we get some
of the men to help?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And the main people down my throat were the women.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
And I just remember thinking to myself, and this is
this is a knock against my dad, my uncles, all
the men in my family, even though I know they.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Love their partners. But I was just like, how can
a man love a woman?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
See she's tired, and there's nothing in you that says
how can I help?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
My Lord?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
So I remember being twelve thirteen, fourteen saying, Lord, I
want better than I've seen, And I think God set
forward and was like, oh, yeah, we can do that.
But I think I didn't realize at that time that
if I wanted something that I have not seen, I
would have to go through a process that most people

(20:51):
wouldn't go through. Right, that is so true. And so
I think I'm still cooking. Yeah, because he was like,
you want it better, let.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Me get different.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
You want it more so to who much is given,
much is required. So I think I'm still cooking. My
gentleman is still cooking. And because I really because I
feel like even in the Church, a lot of men
don't understand what it is to love like Christ.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Because Jesus said.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
I think it was Mark nine or Matthew nine.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I can never quote the exact book chapter in verse,
but he said, the gentile leaders lord their authority over you,
but in this kingdom not so. Whoever desires to be great,
desires to serve. And if you have the mind of Christ,
if you're going to love your wife the way Christ
loves the church, yeah, a.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Lot of men be like, I'll die for mint, Yeah,
but will you.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Live for yours? That when you wash speed, when you
are equal to God? Thought it not robbery to put
on the flesh of a servant, not a king, not
a warrior, but a servant, and then die death you
didn't deserve. Yeah you got the dying part, but do
you got the living part? And that's that's something I

(22:09):
think I saw at that age. But you know, I said,
don't have the language and still want that, yea.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
And so that's what I love about you mean, like
even when we go on our press tours and stuff,
and the way you speak on behalf of women that
started at a young age, the fact that you could
see that and like, but why don't we get why
are they not?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
And I grew up the same way.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I grew up On Sundays, all the men were in
the living room watching football while the women were cooking.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Same thing. Make your dad a plate like it was
that was the thing. And I still do that. It's
like when my parents said, here, dad, here's your plate.
Like that's just it was programmed and to do that.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
But of course, like being who I am today, of
course I want someone where we can help each other,
you know, and serve each other, not just to give
give give, give givet situation. That's one thing I was
telling JB. I was like, I love the way she
just speaks for women and even some of the things
that we go through and how you like, I don't
want this struggle of We talk about that, Yeah, even

(23:08):
through your characters, like you want more for Danny, Like it.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Goes from your real life.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
You talk about what you want and we talk about
characters and like, yeah, this is what we want to
make sure we're putting out because.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
A lot of us are dealing with struggle of and
it's not fun. Yeah, it's not about tip for tat,
you know what I mean. It's not about tip for tat.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
It's about it's about it's about love, it's about sacrifice
and it's really and I think that's the other thing
to me realizing like when you marry someone, you're marrying
their fears, their hopes, their flaws, their traumas, processor un processed,
their triggers. Like marriage is a ministry, it's work, like

(23:51):
you know what I mean. Like and so I just
think for women and men because I can already see
the comments.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
And that's fine. He's paying all the bills and it's.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
So basically I'm a higher is a woman a hired help?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Is that what you're saying, like is your partner hired
help because you pay the bills. That means you don't
have to pick up your draws. Like you got the
toilet looking like a Jackson Pollock paint. She gotta clean it.
What are you telling me?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
What are you saying to me? That was gross?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
But I'm trying to be gross right because it's gross.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's gross, And so it's not about Tippertiz.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
It's just about understanding how certain ideologies have infiltrated our society.
And it's the foundation of our society. I mean, if
you want to cut somebody out, it's a mother fl
what's your mama had to do with it? You're a
son of a bee, a female dog. If you want
to call somebody week, you call them the p word.

(24:50):
But peas push out babies. These can't get hit without
them punching over. So why is it that everything it's
female related or female ollanted.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's the substratum of our society.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
And I'm just you know, sometimes I feel like that
crazy person and a natural disaster movie with like a
mustard standing on their shirt and like.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Nobody will listen to them because their hair is crazy
and all over their head, Like right now, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
What I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, But at the end of the movie, the professor
died in like the first act, and they're.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Like they were right, right, But like.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
You know what I'm saying, Like, it's not about it's
not about upending traditions. It's not about not loving your partners.
It's just about understanding what it really means to love.
And I don't know, No, I love it. Yeah, I
think I love you your take on it. And I
think it's a great conversation to have with men.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, I just wish they could hear because I feel
like a lot of men will get defensive when they
hear that. Yeah, some men hear it because they've been
married and they're happily married. Yeah, emphasis and happily married.
They understand and that it's mutual submission. Especially the Bible
talks about mutual submission. A lot of people don't focus
on that either.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
We pick and choose, We pick and choose, We pick.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
And choose, like our parents do that too, Like honor
your parents, but also parents don't provoke your children around.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
They stop stop, you know, no, seriously.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I just I think that's part of it too.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
It's like when you're when you're kind of on your
own little That's why I have the orbital tribe. When
your own orbit, sometimes it takes longer to make a
full revolution and encounter another.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, the same orbits exactly. You talked about fasting. This
is actually a conversation we had in the garage after
we just finished filming and you were talking about fasting.
I didn't know you started fasting at at the age
of twenty, like that was when you.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Start even young.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I think I tried one time when I was in
I tried in high school too.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I was not fasting.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I didn't do that until probably until I really like
got became an adult or I understood what it meant.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know, I saw my parents fastening.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, see, yeah, I saw my parents fast and so
I tried that.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
And yeah, in my twenties is when I really picked up.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
And now mid thirties, trying to get right back into
the swing of it, because you know, with our job,
it's not always you know, always know where you're going
to be, what you're going to be doing right, and
you don't want to be trying to So yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
When you grew up in a Christian home, And you said,
I saw my mom and dad fasting. What did growing
up in that Christian home? What did it do to
shape who you are today? Because I was just blown
away just by our conversation in the garage that day,
Like I love when things happen like that where we
just start talking about the Lord and like, well by
fast and like, oh I want to fast and I
was doing this we had just finished with Lyn and
you were like, let's do it together, you know, And

(27:55):
I love that that orbit who's your tribe, you know,
people that like are in.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Alignment and that can like help you along the way.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
So what well, yeah, of course, no, thank you, and
I can't wait to do it together.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I just had doctor Sabe's daughter and she was talking
about the three Day Fast and I was like, we
were talking about that.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Watch that.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, it's so good, so good. Subscribe I'll see.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
When I was like telling when it comes out, I
was like I'm subscribed, thank you, But.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, I want to know, like what was what was that?
How did that shape who you are today?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Because I'm really fascinated about how even just in conversation
is so enlightening when you talk to people about God
and your faith.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, I mean I tell my parents all the time.
My parents weren't perfect people. But I mean the more
that I heal, the more I look back, I'm like,
I had a fun child. I think when I was
still healing, and I'm still healing, but just when things
were more, when I was more wounded, I should say, yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
I was like, no, they all these things, but I
look back and there was just so much good. And
I tell my parents all the time, if y'all did
nothing right, not one thing right, except for raised me
in the fear and aminitiony to the Lord, that was enough.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, that was enough.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, because they couldn't help me get on systems. They
couldn't help me through school, They couldn't help me through
my job. Like honestly, my parents even qualify for a
parent plus loan because they just fell on hard times.
My dad was an entrepreneur, and you know, before Obama,

(29:33):
like it wasn't universal health not that we have universal
health care now, but it's.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Some iteration of universal health care.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
But I mean, so when my dad was sick, it
was out of pocket on us, Like you know, it's
anyway they couldn't help me in a lot of monetary ways,
but raising me to love God, yeah, before anything and anybody. Yeah,

(30:01):
and that's the foundation that carries us.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah. None, that is so true.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Speaking of faith, something that I'm still trying to grapple
with is who I am on TV and who I
am in real life, and is the character that I'm
portraying is God okay with it? Have you ever felt that,
like because you know what I'm saying, like the things

(30:26):
that we do, but then how we live our real life,
like and we have me and Zach on that we've
we haven't really had to have sex a lot like
we were that during that in the beginning, it was.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
A lot and I was just like, oh my god,
you never knew.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
No, that's that's one of my and my writer like
no frontal if it is it's chess the chest, but
I have on nipple covers so like I'm not actually
touching him. It was so much even with the MC coordinator,
like these are my guidelines. This is where he can
grab me only on my waist, no butt grabbing, Like
very very particular about those scenes. And I love how

(31:04):
now like I think with our money, he's like he'll
see it and it'll be like one minute of like
passionate sex. He's like, yeah, we're not doing that. He
said it'd be like yealler's ha. Then flip over. I'm like, Okay,
I like that, we can do that.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
It takes too much time. You got to get the
intimate sycordinated in. You gotta get everybody.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Out way too much. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
But are you ever like conflicted because I've gone through
these times where I'm like a little conflicted about what
I'm putting out there on TV. And that's why I
go so hard on this to put try to like
kind of balance it out. You know.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I'm more concerned with messaging because Danny is a sinner,
we all are.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Center is gonna send it's a character?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, is there a redemptive art?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
What is what's our messaging? What story are we telling?
What messaging are putting out into the world. That's what
I care more about, because even Jesus praised the shrewd
servant who was stealing essentially, Yeah, because I mean so
I tell people that storytelling is spiritual because what did

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Jesus do in order to get his message?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Stories?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Storytelling is a ministry and that's why that's why there's
so much darkness in Hollywood, because the enemy understands how
powerful storytelling is.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Right. I think that's my point.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Like, yes, and so I don't mind a character who's
a sinner. I send too. I might not send the
same way she does, but what is our message? That's
that's where you know, I'm trying to tweak things here
and tweak things There's like and I catch things from

(32:55):
a you know, the female perspective, and like we've had those.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Conversations, yeah, where we're like, Okay, where is she going?

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Is?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
What are we doing here? What's the story we're telling?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
And then we're able to go back and say, okay,
like this or this is fine, but we need to
see where she's going. When you say the redemptive arc,
where is this going? And house can she redeem herself?
That's one thing I love about Denzel when he plays
all these characters. And he talked about training day and
he said, yeah, he was doing all these horrible things,
he said, but at the end he did.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Originally he didn't die.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
He said I wanted him to have or he did die,
but he said, I wanted it to be brutal.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
He was like, and that's why it was as bad
as it was, He said, I need.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Them to understand when you do we're on these are
the consequences, Like you can't just get away with it,
you know.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
And it made me look at it different. But just
listening to you, even just.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Now, really helped me kind of process it and not
be so judgmental of the character, like overthinking it because
my parents always like, it's sorrytelling you're just portraying a
character that's not who you are. But I'm like, but
what is somebody out there is really taking that Fatima
serious and like she's always carrying a gun and ready
to book up on people and think that's the way
to live, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
So I was always like mindful of those things.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
And I understand that and I agree with that. I
think it's the job of us, Crystal in your mind,
to be and embody our beliefs in our life, yes,
our characters. And now if I can't say this, I'm
sure you can cut it. But we got this discussion
for season ten storyline is like, if this is not

(34:25):
going to serve a purpose, then I don't know why
we're doing it.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Because we've done this.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Right, Yes, it's brutal. What are we saying? What is
the point of it? And I think that's what storytellers
have to take into account, not just entertainment, because there
are young girls watching us. And that's why I said
it on Twitter this season with Jonah. I said, it's

(34:56):
important for you to know, ladies and gentlemen, that we
have to stop putting the onus on girls to not
be attacked.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yes, yeah, when we talked about that too, and that
when we're on the phone. Yeah, just because she's wearing
a short dress, she's asking to be raped.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Non men have to start teaching men to be safe.
And yes, I understand there's always going to be criminals
in the world, but good girls get attacked too.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Bad things happen to good people too. Yeah, so how do.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
We explain that? Yeah? How do we put the onus
on the girl? Then?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Right, she wasn't drinking, she wasn't wearing anything wrong, she
wasn't teasing anybody.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, she was at the library, right, she.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Was out jogging in the park. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Okay, ladies, and you to take self to finished classes. Okay,
she took a self to finished class. He had a
gun yeah, So I think it's most important for us
to understand what stories we're telling, what's the messaging. And
I understand what you're saying about you know, Fatima and
Danny and all of that, But I just think that

(36:10):
things like having Danny in therapy and having Fatima be
the one who referred the therapist that matters to those
And I think that, you know, every TV show can't
be the chosen.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Right, you know who else? I talked to Divine Franklin
about this. I always talk to people who I know
are are strong in their faith about when I have questions,
and he was like, Crystal, he said, there's so many
different characters in the Bible. And he was like, so
what we're doing is just like just we're acting. We're
playing characters in real life. And he said, in those
characters in the Bible were living their real life at

(36:48):
that time.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
He said, you had all different types of people. And
Sampson was an acting baby, but hello, he was not acting,
but he was. But he's still failful. He's still fail
for it.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Seriously.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
So I've had these conversations with a lot of people,
just especially they're in the industry, but also of the faith.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
They're like, how do you feel about this?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
But also, you don't control. You're not in the writer's room.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I'm not in the writers.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
You don't control. You don't control what your character does.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I mean obviously where we are, Thankfully we're in this
space to be able to call on Mone and be
like yeah, yeah, saying but I also don't think it's
realistic to try to have every character be a saint.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
No, because it's almost isn't it almost.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Self righteous if we think we have to play perfect
characters if we ourselves aren't perfect. I'm not saying that
to you, but I'm saying like, because I did have something.
I'm saying that because I did have a church lady
email me season one about Danny.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Wow, I just ignored it. Yeah, I was just like
mm hmmm, mm hmm. It's hypocritical, Like it's self righteous.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
I mean, no, like I don't want little girls to
live the way Danny lives. But I still don't think
Danny's deserved the stuff she went through, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Like, so I just.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
It is it is a tightrope, but I think it's
also just understanding. Like Devon said, like, look at the
people God used, come on, Rahab is in the lineage
of Jesus, like when you look at Matthew, Yeah, that
working girl.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, it is in the lineage of work is m.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
So I don't think it's about God looking for people
who are perfect. It's about God looking for people who
have hearts that are looking for him. It's not to
say that we continue and sin so that grace may
have bound me. But yes, no, but I mean, yeah,
I think playing a character who is imperfect is it's
not only natural, but why would people watch it if

(38:57):
it's not relatable? And then it's my job as a
door tell her to have some message in there. Yeah,
that I'm trying to download to people.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Right, I love that. I love that.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
In the industry, is there any roles that you like,
are genres that you're like, I won't do that.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Is there any type of probably horror? Because I don't
like it. I don't watch it in my own either.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I'll be scared, Like even there's something I'm so scary.
And if I do watch something that people say, like,
you gotta watch it, it's so good, I'll like try
to watch it in the daytime because I am I
won't be able to sleep at night.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I'm so scared, I can't do it. Yeah, Horror is
definitely one of those.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
And then I used to say, like those like demonic movies,
like I'm really big on spirits.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
We're talking about that too, uh huh, yes.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Sure did, yes, yes, yes, that's another one, like I think,
what was it like the Exorcists and the one that
Lee Daniels just did where they had the preacher there.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, talk about that one.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Those are true stories, you know, so it's like and
demons are real.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
No, the one that Lee Daniels.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Did, what was it called the There's Something?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Was it something?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
But yeah, that was that was a true story. But
they had a pastor on set praying every day.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
But the Deliverance, but I know that. And then in
the I didn't.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I never watched it, but I've watched a lot of
the commentary about it when people were getting online talking
about it. The importance of binding demons in the name
of Jesus, and that was like the biggest part takeaway
from that movie. And I was like, Okay, I guess
if I had to watch it. When I see stuff
like that, I'm like, it makes me more comfortable.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Because I know you can. They did cover that in
the movie. That's yes, Yeah, so that's good. But I'm scary.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
That's why I stopped watching that show Evil. I like
that show a lot. I liked it, but I realized
why they didn't talk about the power of the name
of Jesus because the show have been over in two minutes.
Wouldn't beinish show it be short, wouldn't even been a shorter,
been a skit, like because they tremble at the name
of Jesus. Yes, you see what I'm saying. So, I mean,

(41:15):
I believe in portals being opened up. I believe in
I believe that demons have territory, like when Jesus cast
Legion out of the gentleman and the gatherings, and they
were like, don't make us leave this area, let us
go into the pigs, and then they went into the water.
But water is a body too, that's why it's called

(41:36):
a body of water. Come on, they need to stay
in their territory. Yeah, And I believe that demons have
like territory on blood lines because of you know, Great
Granny putting roots on Grand dadd because he wouldn't stop
messing with Shirlene and now now this, now there's the
devil has a demonic contract with this bloodline because of

(41:59):
Grandma playing in which craft and not realizing the ramifications
of it.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
No, you aresocated. I was just having a conversation with
a friend of mine. He's also in the industry. He's Nigerian,
and he found out that the strongholds that were all
in his life came from his lineage and how they
were practicing witchcraft back in Africa and it like passed
down to his father to him and he didn't know that,
but he's been delivered since then.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
But he was like, it was so much.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I learned when he finally went to go visit his
father and I was like, goodness, like that that bloodline
is serious.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I called my grandma and my dad.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
I said, did we have a root lady in our
family or did anybody put roots on anybody?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:37):
And my dad said on his side, he had an auntie.
People gaming roots.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Now explain roots.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Literally a plant room and like, I don't know what
they would do, but I think you would drink it
or get them to eat it, or get them to
drink it. I don't know the whole process, but she
had a book on I mean, I had to say witchcraft.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's I guess that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
It was it was it was esoteric and it was
spiritual and it was.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
So you know, witchcraft is the act of rebellion.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
I believe it's the act of rebellion because instead of
using the power of God, you're trying to use your
own power. Yeah, you're trying to control the circumstances of outcome.
And that's what her book was. It was just like
roots and different things to make people do, you know,
control things and manipulate, right, And I feel.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Like when people do that, it's it's the very not
office rebellion, but also some type of hurt where it's
something didn't go or you feel betrayed by God that
causes you to veer off, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
And no, you're not you a witch.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
No, no, no, it's love and it's light.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
But as you're trying to control an outcome, Yeah, that's
why there isn't as much condemnation in my heart. It's like,
you want to control things, and I get that, Yeah,
But the same way, we're a host for the Holy Spirit,
which becomes a host for the yes of the enemy.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Of our soul. Yeah, yeah, so that's so true. Yeah,
my goodness.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I want to talk about We're gonna switch gears a
little bit, talking about how coming into where we are
kind of stilling the same thing, but how life has changed,
even dealing with like finance, because it's something else you
talk about all the time we talk about finances. I've
talked to you about my financial advisor, my accountant, and
how she's like got me right, because taxes is something

(44:36):
that just hits different now. I called me one day
about eyes red.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
He said, I just paid the eye urs. I said, oh, brother,
I feel your.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Pain that ever come give me because the amount of
money I give y'all, you better not ever come get me.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Seriously too much. It's too much, too much.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
What did you like going from both of us going
from making what we were making to now, from what
we were making to now, what are some of the
lessons you had to learn and even pivoting and some
of the even mistakes that you made, and like, ooh,
just not knowing because I know where I'm from.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I wasn't taught how to save.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I wasn't taught like my dad taught us not to overspend,
like if you're going to give somebody something, if don't
expect it back, just give what you can give you.
If you can't give it without expecting it back, you
don't have enough. Yeah, And he would always say, I'm like, Dad,
I need this. He's like, I ain't got it. But
if he didn't have it, but he still had a
lot of money in the bank, but he had a

(45:50):
bottom line, and that was one thing he did teach me,
the bottom line. But when it came to like learning
how to save, I didn't know how to do that.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I didn't know how to budget.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
You know, So, what are some mistakes that you made
once you, like really started or were you already ready
once you started.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Making a lot of money?

Speaker 3 (46:05):
So similar, But my mom is a big saver, so
I didn't know how to say. So I do have
a lot saved, but that's the problem. It's time to
make my money, start making money for me, especially because
of the way this industry is.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Oh gosh, after strike, I said, ha ha.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
What she's not gonna do is ever catch me slipping
jokes on you, right, will not be on me.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
So now that's what I'm trying to figure out as
well to what does it look like to really start
to build. Well, yeah, I think I've been playing chess.
That's time started playing checkers. I got to really and
I would say a mistake I made was taking the
the LMA.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
With my portfolio. Yeah, I should have done that.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
I should have done that, because it's it eats away
that all the money, that the money the accounts are
making the market.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
And I'm like, because the interest rate on it is insane.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Right, it was low when I got it, but they
didn't tell me that, oh, hey, this is a variable
interest rate that could change, not a fixed fixed Wow.
And so they still haven't lowered the interest rates and
I'm still haven't been able to lock one in, just.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Trying to think about it. Right, to think that, because.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I also invested during a bear market, so right, and
then now it's like a it was a bull market
for a while.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Right now, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, yeah, I am one of the investments that I
made early on when we started making It's funny because Deuce,
our first ad for the first few seasons we shot,
he called me season one and he goes, you need
a financial advisor, and I was like, okay, yeah, I
do like, you know, somebody's I got somebody, I'm going
to send them to you, he said, Because you're about
to start making more money than you used to. He said,

(47:52):
so I want you to make sure that you stew
it over it properly. And I was like, thank you,
shout out a duce for that. You know, always looking
at good people, you know. And so I met with
the guy and then he actually introduced me to Alicia.
That guy did. So it's like just I just kept
meeting good people. And I remember it was this kid
that I grew up with. His family had left my farm, yes,

(48:15):
and he started growing cannabis on it, and this is
like cannabis. It was booming and I was like yo.
I was like, this is built right in my hometown.
We can create jobs with this. I was like, I'll
put one hundred thousand in it, and he was like.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Okay, great.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
The return was supposed to be I could either get
equity in the company or within the next two years,
I could get my money back with like interests added
on to it, so I would make a profit. And
we agreed that we would do the profit part. I mean,
they get my money back with the profit on top
of interest, give him money.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I ain't got a dime. Do you hear me when
I tell you? I felt? And I mean, this is
a part of investing, and you have contracts and you
like West not like he was. He did business with
him too, and I will find you. I will hunt
you down. Wait wait, wait, wait, you're not telling me
what happened. Wait what happened, honey? This man didn't went

(49:12):
and spent the money on his wedding. Yes, flexing. It
was crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
And then I had my dad called his aunt because
she like worked with him as well. And he kept talking,
I gonna send you like seventy some thousand. Now, I'm
gonna go ahead and seen you like a portion of it.
I was like okay, and then he's like the why
should be hitting any time?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Now?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
My aunt just went to the bank. He forgot Martin's
a small town. I said, Daddy, you know so and
so and he said yeah, he said, I'm doing some
work on her house.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I said, give me her number. H I called her.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
She said, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Just a lot girl like wante this is. I was
so excited about this investment, thinking like this gotta be
something really big, and when when that's one of your
first investments and you're you're just starting to really make money,
but you want to like this is something I saw
the RETI on it. I'm like, people are making a
lot of money if I get in it early, Like

(50:04):
this could be something great and we're giving back to
my hometown community. It was one of those things that
kind of scared me, and I was afraid to invest
in people and their businesses for a while, and I
to this day, I just when we were talking about it,
I hadn't thought about that in a while.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I want my money back now.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Man, Man like I had the fellow of the guy
was dated at the time, and he was just sending
us in circles.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
But that was like that was I mean, it was
a mistake that I made. You think it was a mistake.
It wasn't mistake. It was just a bad investment. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
He just wasn't an integral person. See that's why I'm
slow to do stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
I think that's why it's hard for me to like
even do business with people, like let's do this together,
because I just don't know how you're going to act,
you know, Like I got good people around me now
where I trust him. Like me and Westcott, we go
back years like when I had nothing, we both was struggling,
you know. So that's somebody that I know, like if
we did business together, he's not gonna like screw me over,

(51:06):
you know.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
But it's it's hard. That's always yesterday asking chat GPT.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Is it legal to do a mental health screening before
hiring someone? It needs to be legal, No, because people
be pre hospital dealing with you.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
No, seriously, And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I don't know what you want me to do because
I'm human too. I make mistakes too. I'm dealing with
things too, and and I just yeah, it's tough. You'd
be trying to help people, trying to put people on
work with people.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah. But that's the other thing that I think.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Part of the reason why I haven't done as much
investing too, is because I'll see something about somebody, but
then I'd be still trying to make it work.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
It's a lack of trust to myself too. Yes, I
know exactly what you mean.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Yeah, yeah, and be feeling like a bad person because
they're so nice. But I'm like I can just mm, yeah,
yeah something yes, and you gotta trust that.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
You have to trust that God has given us that
that's that spirit of discernment that He has blessed us with.
And I'm telling you there's been so many times, just
like you were, I've ignored it and it came to
buy me in the But every single time, every single time.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, that's like now.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Like for me, say things are like real estate, like
I'll buy a house in a heartbeat, you know, any
type of property, I'll do that. It's just that that's
a safer, low risk investment for me that I know
I can control, you know, I have a little more
control over it. But when it comes to investing in
people and really taking a risk with other people, it's

(52:52):
really that really damaged me.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
It really did. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
The other thing I was thinking too, about a relationship,
I was like, because that's how this one more talking
about how God wanted to heal her disappointment because she
realized that if God were to send the right person
in her life, she would still see life through the
lens of disappointment. And would you even be able to
open up to him and trust him. I'm like, because

(53:17):
out of all the videos that I suggested to me
that day, that one did, and I was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
That's good. He's healed me from disappointment.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Tell me from the disappointment and the lack of trust.
Because if it's a good dude, you're gonna sabotage it.
I don't even think it's I think that's part of it.
But I think it'll be more so like the only
people like if I'm a boundary person.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
You know me, I'm a boundary person. I'm kind of guarded.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
I'm like, but like you can still see it's like, yeah,
you know, you're a decent human being, so you're not
gonna try to climb over those boundaries. Right, So if
he's a decent person, he's gonna be like, I like her,
but I don't think she's I wouldn't even he wouldn't
even feel like he had the opportunity to be like, hey,
so yes, but somebody who is a narcissist will be like,

(54:02):
I can break down those boons, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
But is he a narcissist or somebody that like really
likes you is not going to give up.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
I think that a good man will be in proximity
and will be It's kind of like when people rescue dogs,
they just sit. They'll sit there for an hour until
the dog comes to them. But human beings don't have
that type of time. If he's also a good man,
he would have to really hear from God just wait

(54:35):
for a second. Yeah, and not too many people go
to hear God that clearly and be that obedient. I'm
not saying this impossible. Yeah, but like why should he
have to go through all that? Let me do my
human I'm not a rescue German shepherd, like I need to,
you know, continue to work on myself. But I just think.
I just think, And it doesn't make them a bad person.

(54:58):
Some of them, people who are super overseealou and go
try to Petter rescue. They get that and now you're
mad at the rescue and then the dog got to
get put down and.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Read the room, Yes you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
But people can't read. People can't read people read. People
are socially illiterate.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Literally, Yes, that is funny.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
When you think about your legacy and your future, what
is something that you want to leave behind that's impactful
to other people.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I haven't been asked that in such a long time. Really, Yeah,
So it's like gosh. I want to be concise. I
want to have a left of mark, especially with storytelling,
that will make people feel less alone, will guide people

(55:53):
to the one who created them and have empowered them
to operate in their gifts and their purpose so that
they can do the exact same thing, like that ripple
effect of you know, a candle doesn't lose fire when
it lights another candle. So I want to light other

(56:15):
people's candles. I want people to see my stories and
feel like, all right, I can go. I can I
can take on the world. I can take on this classroom,
I can take on this disease, I can take on
this research project. And people are walking in their gift
and operating in their gift, and they know who they
belong to and who they are, and they feel empowered

(56:37):
and they love themselves because of the work that I've done.
And right now in this moment, I'm like I got
a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
We all do.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
No And when people when you answer that question, you
do think you're like, oh, wait, there's more I gotta do.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
I'm the same disappointment and the trauma, and it's the
trying and being pushed back down, like I don't know
when you got Fatima, maybe season two at least because
season one you were reoccurring. Ye season two.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
When you saw that, he was like, all right, he's
giving you a shot.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah. I don't know about you.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
But when Raven called me and told me I got
the role, I enjoyed it for like sixty two seconds,
and then I felt something in my spirit say, now
the real work begins.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yes, oh, I had sure.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I went straight to back to studying school, like I
gotta get this.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I can't mess this up.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
It was real work, just even just starting stuff like
starting your podcast, I'm sure, like getting other deals, doing
like the amount of work we still have to do,
even though we're series regulars on a hit show, Like
it's it's almost harder because it's the mental.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Warfare of what am I doing? Like what is the problem?

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Like, yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
I was just telling my friend driving here today, she
was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I'm headed to the office.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
I've been filming episodes all week And she goes, oh,
and she was like.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Shed been busy.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
I was like, yeah, what straight from filming, straight to
BT Awards, straight to ABFF home to work. I said,
even when I'm off work. I'm working, you know, it
doesn't stop. And we've built these brands. We've been blessed
with the platform to be able to build brands off
of it so that when say, whenever Sisters may be done,
you know, then we're like, Okay, I've built enough that

(58:21):
I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
You know, We're not like, oh gosh, like what am
I gonna do now? You know?

Speaker 1 (58:27):
But it's a thing like and people think it's we
make it look so easy.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
It's not. It's just you.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
You make it look like warm butter on warm toast.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
My team probably say different.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Oh I know, she keep you all running because she
ain't stopped.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Don't stop.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah, that's what him and Shine I always say, Chrystal
will outwork you if you let her. Like, I'm right
there with them, like, let's go what we're doing. I
don't care what it is we're packing up. They like
sitting down, just giving her an Alani honey, and I'm
good to go charge.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Alani, give go ahead and send them money. Cut the check, Alani,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
And send the check. Please check. Seriously.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
No, I'm so grateful for them because when God does
bless you with ideas and you want to be creative.
The team is what hells push it, you know, Like
I could not do this without them. So that's the
warm butter on the bread, because I couldn't do without them.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
See that's the I think that's the warfare too. It's
like relationships, yes, you know what I mean. We're two
or more gathered yep. And that's why I feel like
that's sometimes why it's hard. It's like just finding the
good people, the people that you don't feel like you
need a mental health screening for, like, and I feel
like that's been my struggle and that's been the warfare
for me.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
It's like, oh God, can I just give me one Lord?

Speaker 4 (59:54):
One?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
And yeah, you know it's beautiful, glad you have that.
And then everybody just loves the Lord, you know, so
like we're all like you did two or three prayers
before we start, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
We should did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
And I just got JB during BT Words when you
came to BT House and I was when we exchanged numbers.
I was going to be Psycho and put Christopher and
Hazel you're stuck with me. It's my contact name because
I was like, you have to come work with us,
Like yeah, there's where are we going where where you
thought you was going to know, you're stuck with us.

(01:00:27):
But I felt it like you feel it instantly. And
it's hard to find good people, especially in this day
and age, within this industry as well, because everybody has
ulterior motives. It's just like who is just loves what
they do. They're passionate. They're here to like just push
the dream.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
It's a lot, but yeah, I think it's also a
passion So that's probably why it looks like it looks
easy because I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
I love it. Yeah, I can tell thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
So I want to talk about orbital tribe. Let's talk
about how did you even come up with the name?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
What I was saying, like, I've always felt like I've
kind in my own orbit like feeling like that crazy
professor with the mustard stain dropping papers that nobody listens to.
I've always just kind of been different and walked to
the beat of my own drum, like in my own family.
It has been very you know, like just different, you know,

(01:01:22):
And thank God for the Bible, because without the Bible,
I would not be able to make peace with just
kind of being vulnerable here, not really having a sense
of belonging, and so the Orbital Tribe was really kind
of for those people that God has kind of called out,

(01:01:44):
even amongst the people He's called out, and say like, hey,
you might not get there the traditional way, people might
not always see you, but you can get there, which
is my story for this show. And that's what I
love about Tyler like key with me, Baby, you don't
mind a dimond in the rough, Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
He does not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
He said, We're gonna get this thing right, make it shine.
I was going through so much. Remember I had the
whole like breast cancer callback while we were filming.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
And we had a scene.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
The day before I had to go in for my appointment,
and I was just my brain was just like all
over the place and I was just like and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
You were looking at me, and I was like where
are we?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Like I could I could not track and musically like
I have a photographic memory, I can like see it
on the pages, so like, oh I know where we are?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Got it like one line? Got it that day? I
could not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
And I left and I was like, oh my god,
I hope Minyan does not hate me. She probably like, girl,
come on, because you had a crazy few days in
your house and it was a lot of content. So
I always liked to come in like when I'm coming,
I'm helping, I'm your your wing girl, you know. And
I just like I feel like I let you down
on that day and remember I hit you, not take and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I'm like no, no, because like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
I felt like, because especially my storyline, I was like,
there's gotta be some grace because the day before, you
were at the townhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
All day, all day long. Yeah, we all have our days.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
You were at the townhouse all day and then the
scene we shot was it wasn't seen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
It was scenes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Yeah, weren't they wasn't it twenty pages pages y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
It was crazy. It was like boom boom, boom boom.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
So I did not like me personally. I was like,
I expected you to be like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Because right supposed to do yeah you know what I mean,
what are you supposed to do?

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Like what like you at the townhouse. When I saw
the townhouse black, I was like, m hmm, I was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, it was a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Yeah, not at all, thank you, because Joe Be told
I was like, is it me?

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
It was not you? It was definitely me me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
I do that all the time. I be calling line.
It will be other people's line. I was like, oh
my bad, sorry, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Listen, and I feel I'm like, okay, good, it wasn't
me life, Okay, thanks God.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
I feeling like, dang, I could have got away with
it if I hadn't called line, because now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I'm I need it when we get to this next
book line.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
It could be anybody, I said all the time. Brian
will laugh because I'll be like, it could be anything.
This could be anything, literally anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I love it. I'm so happy we're getting to work
together now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Yeah, they wanted hopefully we got a loving yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
And it's so many people that Hollywood has overlooked that
Tyler has given a chance and changed your life completely,
change your families, like the generations, and that's what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
So grateful for him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, I mean that's what the Oracle
trip is. We're filming season two right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
That I'm gonna ask you, Okay, Paly, so it makes you, guys,
tap in subscribe so you can follow along with the
older child that I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Mean, I'm proud of you, thank you, and I'm glad
we finally got to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Me too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
This was like so relaxing, like it's trying to look
like it's trying to rain again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
It's like forty days and forty nights here in Atlanta.
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yeah, I can roll up on.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
This little rug.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Don't bother me. Thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
All right, Let the people know where they can follow you,
your YouTube, your Instagram, all the things. We want to
support you in any way we can. If there's anything
else that you have going on that you can share.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
With, Yeah, from what I can share the season two
of The Orbital Tribe we are filming right now, so
it's dropping soon, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
So the Orbital Tribe is on YouTube. It is on
you can follow our Instagram page. The Orbital Tribe is
on Spotify. iHeart Apple, of course, I think Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
And YouTube anywhere you listen to your podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Anywhere you listen to your podcast, Yeah, and then share it,
refer to people if it helps you. And then of
course you can follow me at Mignon and my g
n O n Underscore fof on Instagram by it's just initials.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Okay, Yeah, you got it. Okay, they wouldn't give me mignon.
Are you at it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Somebody already has it, but they don't post and and
but Instagram said that they were they were active, and
I was like, they're not active or it's a it's
their fence to Uh yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Just give it to me, like I'll give you, give
give it to me this one that is so funny.
I love but thank you so much, and make sure
you tap in with my girl being and we will
see you soon. Getting into today's fit, today, I am

(01:06:57):
wearing a cream Louis Vauton matching set.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I absolutely love this outfit. It's super comfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Today we were just all the things, keeping it simple
with the jewelry. Today I'm wearing Botake of Another earrings
and my Van Cleeve bracelet.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Sudez.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
I hope you all enjoyed this conversation as much as
I did. Look remember, keep company only with those who
uplift you and whose presence calls forth your best. Until
next time, keep your pies and sweeties, love y'all,