December 18, 2020 • 39 mins
Kesha's creepy guest of the week is the always fabulous Demi Lovato Demi has seen and experienced some pretty magical stuff, lucky for us she was willing to share it all on the latest Kesha and the Creepies episode!! We get into everything from experiences making contact with aliens, methods for furthering psychic abilities, astral projection, and evolution through self discovery.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kesha and the Creepies is a production of My Heart Radio. Yeah,
it just I had this experience where, like, all of
a sudden, I was like, sounds so wild. I know,
I don't fun to say this. I'm so new here
(00:29):
Kesha and the Creepies. We're welcoming the fabulous, legendary iconic
Demi Lovato. Hi, Hi, Oh my god, thank you for
being here. And you look fucking fabulous your hands. So excited,
so excited to see your hair. Oh, thank you. And
I know it's a podcast and it's not creepy, it's
(00:50):
just beautiful. How long ago did you do your hair
like this? So I thank you for having me um I.
I'm so excited to be here and I've had my
hair like this for I think like two weeks now,
just about I was so excited today. I was like
I can't wait to see it in real like thanks,
(01:13):
mine was black yesterday. And then I was like, you
know what, I feel like the light is coming this
new year, and I want to bring the blond back.
And so now I'm like in this in between kind
of this isn't the final look, right, That's how I
feel about this, Like I wanted to go like platinum,
like almost white, and it's like my hair was so
dark that it literally this is all I could do.
(01:35):
Yet I have to get it like healthier too than
I can take it lighter. That's we're on the same
hair journey, because, yes, especially after I don't know about you,
but for me, like hair is such a big part
of the whole thing. Yeah, it is. To me, it
was more of like a spiritual and emotional thing rather
than like, oh I need a new look or whatever.
(01:58):
It was like I've been putting my hair up in
a ponytail for so long, and and there's other reasons
that I'll get into later, but you know, I've been
putting my hair up for so long that I was
just over it. And then finally I feel like I
feel more like myself. You know. I love that. Yeah,
you look stunning and radiant. Thank you. I'm you. You
(02:20):
look so beautiful. Girl looks like a princess right now,
and you're set up. It's amazing in my queen chair.
Thank you. Yes, I'll go. The first question I ask
everybody is are you a believer in the supernatural? I am?
I so am? Okay me too. Yeah, that's the podcast
(02:42):
I was reading, like through your Instagram page, and there
was one post that you did that caught me in
a way that was so bizarre, because you articulated how
I've felt about extraterrestrial life in such a public way
where I was like, holy sh it, like he's going
for it, Like this is how I think in my head.
Someone is putting it out there in a perfectly articulated way.
(03:04):
So I just really want to ask you about your
experience in the desert with Stephen Greer, how that came
about what happened. Yeah, okay, So I've basically I've always
been a believer. When I was young, I was very
interested in the planets, and so for for Christmas one year,
like I asked for a telescope, and it was the
only thing I asked for, So my parents went all
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out and got me this really nice one. And the
problem was it was so nice, I didn't know how
to use it, and so I never used it. But
I've always been fascinated and just about I just always thought,
you know, it would be so selfish of us to
just assume that we're the only life form out there
in the universe, and so over the past I guess
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the past year, I've been doing a lot of research
and it wasn't until so I had watched Serious years ago.
Then this year I came a cross close Encounters of
the Fifth Kind, which was Dr Greer's most recent film
that he released, And so I watched this documentary and
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it really piqued my interest in making contact. Like I'd
always been a believer, but I had never taken that
next step to try to make contact, and so I did,
and I just realized he was really the one that
articulated the importance of why we should look into this
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and what are civilization is facing as a threat if
we don't look into this, and and it it gets
really scary. So yeah, I just I know the importance
of it. And after researching into it, I ended up
there's an app that you can download and I started
using it. And then on my twenty birthday this year,
(04:51):
which is really interesting, it's my year sat in return
um tattoo. Nice. Yeah, So on my birthday I made
contact for the first time. I meditated, Yeah, okay, I
wanted to know what contact means. Yeah. So basically, me
and UM, some of my best friends we had all
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gotten tested and so we were all together and it
was I was like, what can I do for my
birthday this year that, um, we'll be safe, and so
we we. I got a house in Palm Springs and
I went out into the desert and on the night
of my birthday, we're all just like we'd spent the
whole day by the pool and um that night where
I was like, you, guys, I really would love to
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do a group meditation and try to make contact. And
my best friends are all for it. So they were like, yeah,
let's do it. So we did. We meditated for about
thirty forty five minutes um together, and then we laid
out under the stars and we were just staring up
at the sky. And so what first happened was this
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we played these tones this app that you download. Do
you play these tones, You meditate and then you play
the tones and you wait for things to show up,
and well we did. We saw this bright light. We
were all laying down on the ground, so it was
just in the center of the sky. You also do
this visualization where you try to direct the the e
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T s where you are like you you visualize the
milky Way. Then you visualize our sun to our solar system,
than our planet, than the continent, than the country, than this,
you know, state, than the city that like, you go
through this whole thing, and you you're kind of like
make you're just putting a signal out there in case
they are passing by, like a map, like a like
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a pin. Yeah, you're you're giving them a pen. And
it's like this Google Earth type zoom that you do
onto your location. While we were laying outside and all
of a sudden, we all look up and this big
ball brighter than any object in the sky. One This
was around like ten something PM, so I think it
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was too late to be a satellite. Satellites only orbit
at a certain time of night. I heard, um, it
wasn't a plane because the way that it just came
into this guy right above us, and we were like,
oh my gosh, guys, do you see this? You know,
we start freaking out a little bit, and then it
just starts moving in these like directions that it's clearly
not a plane. Then it stops, it goes down like
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a falling star almost, and then it stops again and
then it backs out. And the way that it backed out, yeah,
it was it was. There was I literally was like, okay,
so there's there's no debunking that, because there's no that
wasn't a shooting star, that wasn't a meteorite, that wasn't
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a satellite, that wasn't a plane. So what the funk
else could it have been? And when that happened, I
was shooting a talk show for Quimby and and um
Dr Greer was one of my guests on the show,
and so when I interviewed him, we started talking and
he told me some really cool stuff, and he also
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invited me out into the desert, and that's when the
cool stuff, like a lot of cool stuff really started.
That was just the first time. Yeah, that was the
first time without Stephen Greer. That was just all my
own with my friends. Yeah. Whoa, Okay, so we haven't
even gotten to the crazy ship. Yeah exactly, because like
that's what I've seen some light patterns in the sky
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and my boyfriend and I and he's more skeptical than me.
So I'm like, there's the spaceships and he's like no,
trying to explain it all away, and then he came
back and started making different formations. So that's about the
level that what I've experienced, and I'm the kind of
person where I gotta see it. Once I see it,
I believe it, but I have to see it, I
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have to feel it, whatever it is. And so now
I'm so curious how you took that further. So Dr
Greer and I had talked about going to Joshua Tree
because that's where he goes to make contact a lot
of times. And so him and a group a few
of people from his team, and then UM me and
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once again a couple of friends of mine. UM all tested.
We're negative. So we all went out into the desert.
We did this thing and basically we we lined up
these um zero gravity chairs like in a circle, and
we had a sound bath going for the first fifteen
twenty minutes. Then we would do a pussia. What is
(09:38):
the pushia. The best way that I can explain it
is it was this meditation and it's kind of like
you're giving sinks. I had never done it before, so
this was my first experience with it. And Dr Stephen
does it whenever he goes to make contact. But Pusha's
I think it's a meditation that you can do to
help raise the vibration or the frequent and see of
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everyone around you. I'm not really entirely sure actually, but
we did that and um, and we would just meditate
and then so the first night, it was like an
hour before we saw anything. Maybe we looked up in
the sky. We would see these what Dr Greer calls
alleged shooting stars. Because we're in the desert, so you know,
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we can see everything. We probably saw a lot of
shooting stars. So, but there were there were times where
we would see something shoot across the desert and then
we would see a military plane come in right after,
and it was just weird because we're like, well, if
that was a shooting star or whatever, why what's the
need for this military plane. So at one point on
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the second night. The first night we didn't see too much,
but the second night we saw the most activity. There
was this really really bright light. I caught a video
on my phone. See all of this would make me
feel so fulfilled in my soul. When I see things
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like this, it makes me feel right because there's a
bigger purpose. It's so much bigger and especially as us
as artists, we live or we work in a career
that's very um so, I mean, it could be a
very self centered career, you know, is a very narcissistic
kind of career. But when you start to see the
bigger picture and you realize, hey, this isn't just about
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me and my music anymore. This is about how I
can like raise the vibrations of other people and and
help elevate our planets frequency to like I don't know,
it's it's it's so much bigger than us, and that's
that's what gets exciting. And then when you're like when
you make contact and you see that these beings are
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really rooting for us, and that's why they show up
when we when I try to make contact, you know,
they show up of the time, and it's because the
signal is out there and they're here again. They're like
I I truly believe in my soul at least what
I feel these beings are like, they're doing the work.
Let's show up for them. Let's pop in and give
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them a sign they're on the right path. And so
that's why I continue to meditate and fill my home
with crystals and all these things. That our civilization has
been kind of guided and directed that way on that
journey for so long. I think self discovery and self
growth is the key to evolution for humanity. Actually, I
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agree with you, and I feel like as to people
that are in front of the world and singing songs,
that's something I've realized, especially this year too, is it's
more than just singing a song and hoping it's a
hit song, Like, and it can be so narcissistic because
it feels like when you're about to go on stage
and you're getting zipped up and you're putting your ears
in and some drum sounds sounds weird, Like it feels
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like you're it's the biggest deal in the whole world. Yeah,
and it is because I care about what I do
and I want to do a great job, but like
it really isn't a big deal. And now I'm kind
of pressing more on, like how can it be a
part of raising the vibration of the entirety of the world,
not through me, but like just putting intention behind everything
I'm doing, just positive and like empowering. And I feel
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like you've always been that way too. It's just even
through your music face value, like confident things like that,
where you're just promoting people to feel the best that
they can in dancing. I think it's such a high
vibration as well. And just yeah, I've been dancing a
lot lately too, just like in my I have a
dance studio in my new house and so I've been
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dancing more. It's funny you say that, um, but yeah,
I I do a lot. Like yeah, it's all of
that stuff. Anything that's gonna raise my vibration and and
turn hopefully raise other people's vibrations. Like that's the path
and journey I'm on, you know, I don't know. I
just have like chills every time time you're saying these things.
It resonates so much with my heart because it isn't
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just about me. It was when I first started and
it was crazy, but now that I kind of have
weirdly gotten used to the lifestyle, now, I just want
to do things that bring awareness and I want to
listen and I want to be guided and I want
to like it's almost like asking for help from the universe,
being like, Okay, now I want to be of service
to this planet because I see some people destroying the
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earth and like, yes, treating it like we're not totally
dependent on this place we're living on, Like that's The
confusing part is we should be treating the Earth with
so much respect because we're in a symbiotic relationship where
if she goes down, so do we. And I don't
know how that's so lost on people. And that's why
I think it's so important that no matter how many
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people look at me as quote unquote nuts for thinking
of or believing in all of this, it's like, I know,
the importance is that we have to declare disclosure for
the American people because demand it like demand. We need
to demand disclosure for our civilization because what lies in
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those secrets is not just the existence of unidentified flying
objects or extraterrestrial beings, but what lies in those secrets
is the technology that could save our planet from climate
change and global warming. You know that that technology has
been hidden along with all of this other information and um,
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and it wasn't until talking to Dr Stephen Greer that
I really realized that, and also watching his documentaries. But
he's told me some really cool cool things and and uh,
but but what we saw, I'm sorry I was getting.
I was looking for loving everything you're saying, which again,
like I also loved Commander in Chief. Like when you
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think you. It was like, Fuck, yeah, you're just such
a badass and it's so weird because you put in
a post. I think you put it in the post.
But if we would all meditate together, I had this
crazy thought a couple of months ago, like what if
a bunch of artists got together. It wouldn't be everybody,
but at the stroke of midnight on whatever date, everyone
just did one minute of oming. I just wonder what
(16:04):
that would do for the planet. And I know that
sounds insane and like some crazy thing that nobody would do,
But what would happen. What would happen? Because oming actually
has health benefits. It can lower your it can help
your immune system, There's so many things that can do,
so not only is it good for you personally, but collectively,
Like if if our fans were to also tune in
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and watch and meditate and um, they might be able
to tap into something that there's gifts to meditation that
I think we're all capable of accessing. Like I actually
believe that everyone has psychic abilities if they meditate enough
and are able to hone in on those gifts through meditation.
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The more and more I've meditated, the more little rewards
I've gotten, which is I used to think like why meditate, right,
I can't sit still blah blah blah. It's like one
that's the whole purpose to it. There is a reward
system in a weird way, like I love jiu jitsu
because there's a belt system. You know, you can you
can work towards something. I was like, well, what's the
point of meditation if you can't work towards something. Well,
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now I've realized that those things that you work towards
are making contact, it's furthering your psychic ability. It's remote viewing.
It's things like that that are like gifts that come
with meditating, which is actually really beautiful. What is remote viewing?
I've never heard of that before. So remote viewing is
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where you can actually see something from where you are
psychically but in a different location. So I could like,
I can't do it yet, but yet I'm working on it.
But like I could describe the room that you're in,
and you know, it would have nothing to do with
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me being there before or whatever. It's just through psychic abilities.
So there's yeah, there's there's always cool little things that
like I guess I don't know. I guess because music
just doesn't do it for me like it used to anymore.
Like my life just became so much bigger than just
music over the past year. It became about activism. It
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became about trying to save the planet, but also not
putting that weight on my shoulders just like too much. No, No,
it's just like it's like, what can I do to
help others this year? And yeah, it's been very freeing. Well,
it's amazing because I can almost feel that it's okay
not to be okay. That song feels like it's being
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of service to people that need to hear that message.
So it is a song, and it's a great song,
and your voice is fucking insane, Like we all know
that your no. I was. I've like rewatched your documentary
and just watching you sing is like, oh, you might
be an alien. I think maybe you're an I think
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that as the highest complement ever I mean, I mean
as the formal compliment thank you, but I kind of
feel you. I love music. I've always loved it. I've
always had a passion for it, and I love touring,
but the main thing I love is bringing people happiness
and acting and that connection is what I think I
missed so much this year. Was like I don't miss
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putting on the outfit. The ass's chaps are like a cherry. Yeah,
but like it's somehow becoming bigger than me and I
want to do more and have these kind of conversations
and just I don't know, explore the stuff that keeps
life really magical and also ways to stay connected to
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each other and potentially to other worldly or other dimensions,
things that we can't really explain but are there, yes,
and it's almost taboo to talk about. Yeah, and that's
what's it's frustrating to have so many people kind of
put you down for wanting to spanned your perspective on
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life outside of human civilization. You know, it's people shouldn't
shame you for wanting to believe in things beyond our understanding. God,
no shame should be to me. I feel excited and
like I am like want to pick your brain because
I want to know what you've seen and I would
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love to raise my awareness. And then the people I
talked to about it, like even just through talking about
it on here, hopefully people listen to it and we're
not actually crazy people. Maybe we like act like that
on stage sometimes, but we're people that are just really
connected to a lot of people, and if we can
sit here and have a serious conversation about I fully
know that there's extraterrestrial life. I've seen it. I don't
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think I've had the contact that you've had, which I
still have to hear more about. Yeah, I still gotta
tell you, and I'm so sorry. I'll be sorry. I'm
like obsessed with this conversation because it is almost like
quote unquote crazy, and I hate that because it's some
of the most natural experiences I've ever had have been
with things that are paranormal or supernatural, and I get
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a lot of people rolling their eyes or saying like, oh,
that's kuka doo. And I didn't ask necessarily to see
some of it. And now I'm opening my heart and
being like, no, give me more. I want the access. Yeah, yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah, I mean I've I've definitely had some
very very I've had experiences of all kinds. The week
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that I was in Joshua Tree with Steven Greer, we
I saw a bunch of stuff, whether it was a
bright bright light from across the distance that I caught
on video the first one I don't really remember finding,
but I will show you the the the second night.
First of all, this blue orb kept, oh my god, beautiful.
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It kept floating in front of us like ft away,
and then when I would try to walk up to it,
it would just hop another back, so I could never
chase it or get to it. But I was trying,
And at one point in the night, I literally said,
meet me in my dreams. Let's let's hang out in
my dreams. We're calling it on the contact session tonight,
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but you're welcome to come hang out my dreams. And
Dr Greer calls this blue orb Kindness because they had
an experience with the same blue orb in the desert
where it actually healed somebody's hearing loss, and so they
named it kindness. This et and so another there. I
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don't know if you can see this, but there's these
like two lights blue. Yeah, that was caught on camera.
That just showed up in some of the pictures. Is
that the same thing as WHOA, that's insane? Yeah? And
and that I watched float in front of my friend
mod He he was sitting there and it floated like
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right in front of his sleeve, and I was just
like I looked at ductor green and I was like,
do you see that? I was like yeah, I was like,
that's wild. And then when that's all happening, are you
just like are you freaking out? I really love doing
this and I and I love meditating so much that
it doesn't really it's to me, this is fun. Like
I I would choose a night of meditation over like
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a night out at a club anytime, especially if it
is going to result in contacting. That sounds insane and
it almost sounds like I could be wrong, but it
sounds like how I would approach an animal or something
in the wild where you're yeah, I go swimming with
whales sometimes and the mom like will come up and
the baby will come kind of close, and then they'll
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come a little closer, and then they'll come a little
closer and kind of judge the safety of what they're
who they're dealing with. And to me, it almost sounds
like the same thing. Like this being is like I
want to like be around you, but like I'm judging
whether or not this is a safe space. Well, they
have to. When you're making con time, you actually like
you want to meditate, you want to say a few
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things you want to say, Please make contact if it's
safe for you. In Palm Springs on my birthday, I
realized that they only showed up for like ten to
fifteen seconds, and I think it was because they were
in the middle of an airspace and like something may
have could have happened. Maybe that's why they didn't stay longer.
You know, you have to make sure that you're coming
from a good intention place. The environment of who you're
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with is loving and supportive. You want them to feel
safe and otherwise they won't show So the most recent
contact I made, I went to this meditation retreat in
Mexico the week of the election. Actually, and um, the
foundation of the city was built. I think it's a
rose court. So the frequency of the city was just
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super amazing and it was super easy to make contact.
We had been meditating all week and then it only
took us ten minutes before we looked up and saw
I like, we saw a ship and what looks like
a Concorde plane. You know, there's like black ones that
look like triangles, looked like that, but it had two
red lights and then at one point the ship just
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separated into two different ships like it can't explain it,
but you're seeing it and you're just like cool, so
everyone else saw that, Yeah, all right, so what and
then you're just kind of and then it's just a
real moment of like, so do we go inside? Like
were you do we go to bed? What happens? Now?
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I had that moment with my boyfriend was like, we
saw that, So it's this weird like now what moment.
You're like, we just saw something so unbelievable. And sometimes
you just kind of go, yeah, okay, that was dope,
Let's go to sleep, and then you just go inside
and go to sleep. But what I will say, the
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most wild thing that's happened to me is it do
you know what astral projection is? Okay, I've been reading
about it and I'm trying to wrap my brain around
what it is. I've heard. I don't know exactly what
it is, though. The best way that I can have
been able to understand it and describe it is when
you're when your consciousness leaves your body and you travel.
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You can travel to different places in the present, future, past,
or um. You can travel to different planets like there's
you can go travel, but you're basically, it's when you
have like an out of body experience. And the night
that I asked that orb to come back and hang
out with me in my dreams, I've I've fully actual
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projected that night in my sleep, and I wouldn't. Yeah,
it just I had this experience where, like, all of
a sudden, I was like, sounds so wild. I don't
even know if fun to say. Then it's so yeah.
Well it just was like I had this experience where
I was like, come back, let's hang out in my dreams.
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And then I was in my room that night and
these beings, which I don't remember what they looked like.
They were just like, do you want to come back
to our planet? And I'm like hell yeah. So I'm
sucked out of my room and I'm floating over the
planet and I wasn't in like a ship or anything,
and I'm just like hovering in like deep space and
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was just like whoa, and they're like you want to
come see and I was like hell yeah. And then
I fly to this pink and purple planet that looked
like Dr SEUs, very Dr SEUs like, and then I
woke up and that's all I remember. And so I
don't know if it was just a really intense dream
or if I'm below an astro projected or I was abducted.
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I'm not really sure, but I open to any of it.
That's insane. It was it was beautiful. And then my
friend had the same experience a week later once he
got home from the same trip, and it was just
it was wild because I was I was like, so,
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were you in a ship? And he was like, no,
that was the weird part. And I was like, oh,
I know, it's just like things lining up. We're just
it's really really interesting and and yeah, I know there's
gonna be people that see this and they're like, she
has lost her blind No, Well, then signed me up
to because I think that the weirdest part is that
we're when you talk about it, people think that that's insane,
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but there's so many people that have had this experience
of something similar. Yeah. Yeah, just go watch some ancient
aliens and that will blow your mind if you're not
open to this. That's what I did with my dad,
my stepdad. He didn't believe in any of this stuff,
and a few years ago I was like, Dad, just
watch ancient aliens and try to like try to answer
some of those questions. So then when he couldn't, he
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started getting into it, and then he started you know,
now I think he believed. But I love that for you.
It sounds like really enlightening and it's an experience that
I'm like so open to having. But I feel like
it does take meditation. I think that's an important part
of making contact. And even I don't know if it
would be astral projection. I'm not sure what my experience was.
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I had a really strange experience during this time. Really,
I want to hear. Yeah it was. It's not quite
as cool. I didn't have a blob that wanted to
be my friend in the desert, but I was just
I was having so much anxiety about the world and
like the state of affairs, and I was like walking
to the Whole Foods to get some flowers and I
(29:38):
just couldn't stop crying. I just couldn't stop crying about
people in pain and like how much pain there is
in the world. I was so upset and I just
couldn't stop crying. I couldn't figure it out, and I
was laying in bed and I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna do um my like hypnosis kind of meditation thing,
and all of a sudden, this my higher consciousness perhaps
(30:02):
or whatever you want to call God. I don't really
like love that word because that has so much baggage
and death attached to it, But whatever you want to
call it, the thing, the thing that I feel like
people look for our whole lives. It like filled my
body physically and was started speaking to me. I was like,
you're the kind of person that needs to feel things,
(30:23):
and all of a sudden I just felt this way
of light and love. And then my cat, who I
swear to God is like a little mini Buddha. He
like puts my headphones in his mouth and brings them
over to me, and I just start hearing this voice
talking to me for three hours, asking questions and visualization
(30:44):
is kind of like what you're talking about. And it
looked very Dr SEUs is the thing which tripped me out,
which is what you said. Everything looked almost like a
cartoon from the seventies or something. Yeah. Wow. And it
was the first time I could say, like, Okay, I
believe in you, whatever you are, whatever name you need
to have, whatever it is, I feel you, So I
(31:06):
believe in you, and it kind of changed my life.
And now I'm like on this path to go as
deep as I can. So I'm so curious what next
time you go try to make contact? I am totally
tagging along. Yes, absolutely, I mean literally there's sometimes where
I'll just do it in my backyard. I'll just meditate
(31:26):
and then I just will look up in the sky
for a few minutes, since you if I see anything.
But so there's tons of things that I started doing,
things that have really helped me UM be able to
like make contact easier. I think the more you meditate,
the easier it gets. UM. I think also this like
(31:47):
the study of consciousness is something I've been really into.
So I've actually been studying a lot of quantum physics
and quantum theory and just like like string theory that
because I was thinking about that recently and I cannot
wrip my brain around some of the stuff though, Like
I got my g E. D say, I got my
(32:07):
my chest my California proficiency example, I passed that, and
that's it. Um. But there, well, there's this there's this
book that UM I started reading in Mexico called A
Happy Pocket Full of Money, and it actually has nothing
to do with money. It's all about internal wealth and
wealth consciousness, how you perceive your self value and um
(32:32):
and how quantum physics actually has to do with that.
They explain it in the second chapter and how like
what you put out into the universe is what you receive.
And so I don't think I've learned about string theory yet,
but it's just like that, there's a there's an actual
science and what goes around comes around, and it's insane
(32:55):
and it's I've just been like, whether it's I downloaded
um Guaia onto my phone, do you know about guy
about this? If I love it? Guya is basically it's
a streaming service and it's like a Netflix, but it's
all spiritual content. So I'm gonna write that down too,
and then Guya And then the book you read was,
or you were reading a Happy Pocket full of Money. Yeah, okay,
(33:17):
I'm gonna check all this out because I was reading
about dimensions and how we can only operate in three
four's time, and there's at least ten, if not more, dimensions.
There's more, yeah, I mean from my understanding, So it's
it's wild. I'll send you once you download Gaya. I'll
send you links to some of the stuff that really
(33:38):
blew my mind. And I think it's just gonna be
a fun little rabbit hole we're going to go down.
Oh my god, I'm so excited. I'm so excited to write.
I have an e extra a couple of minutes if
you want to tell anybody about anything to check out
or just anything at all. Yeah, Well, my favorite streaming
service is an app called Guaya. The topics on here
(34:02):
are so cool. So, like you go to brows and
it has topics. It has everything from the very first
is afterlife, but then it goes into ancient civilizations, decoded aliens, um,
big pharma, like chakras, so it goes deep into Kim Trails,
crop circle. I mean it goes because in there's some
(34:23):
like there's a lot that it goes in them, but
there's also a ton of meditations. There's also like this
really cool show called micro Dose where it's um big
ideas and white size information. It's like seven minute long
shows but um they talk about like one episode will
be about the pineal gland, another episode will be about channeling.
(34:44):
It's just really interesting. God, that sounds like my new
honey is just yeah, And I'll send you all this
stuff to watch. It'll be fun. Oh my god, I'm
so excited. I feel like you've just opened a door
that's going to open a lot more doors. Oh good. Yes,
And I can send you a bunch of books too.
There's tens of books. Yeah, because I've just been reading
(35:06):
about it. And then that's why I started this, is
because I missed connection. And then I also want to
take away the taboo of talking about things. I feel like, yeah,
once you talk about it, you realize things are not
a they're not quote unquote crazy. And I don't really
love that word because I feel like it's really dismissive
of things that people just haven't experienced themselves, or they
(35:27):
don't want to believe is true because it might funk
with their whole system in your head of what you
think is going on, or it might mess up the
lineage of what Jesus said doesn't match up with what
you're seeing, or it just I think it is too
big that some people are scared of it existing. Well.
I was raised Christian, and so I understand a lot
(35:48):
of those fears. But I think when you start doing
your own research and you start digging into it more.
I just have the belief that, like it's just a
little bit bigger than that. Like I don't think that
the bio bowls stops. I think there could be a
Bible for every planet. Who says that you know that
it that it just stopped with Earth. Who's to say
(36:09):
there isn't a bible for every planet planet in the universe.
And each person can take the goodness, you know, it's like,
take the good and leave the rest. There's this connection
happening in this meditation that I had because I have
a hard time with Instagram and all that ship. I
have a hard time seeing negative stuff and I love
connecting with people like that's how I reached out to you.
(36:32):
But at the same time, then I see one person
say something like terrible to me, and it bums me out.
So I've been like, why go back to something that's
hurting you? Why would I go back and look at
something it's hurting you? And I was reminded by reaching
out to other artists like this, it's a connection tool.
And in my meditation, this higher consciousness, extra terrestrial, whatever, God,
(36:57):
whatever you want to call it. Some people call it
God consciousness, God consciousness. I love that just because it's like,
I don't think it's religion specific. I think it's all people.
We all have this consciousness. Um. It was saying that
the connections were making through things like how we're on
zoom right now or our phones. At some point we're
all going to be talking about experiences like this enough
(37:21):
that it's going to be unavoidable to realize that we're
all experiencing really insane feeling things and we're not actually
going insane. We're evolving. Yes, yes, and it's just we
just need to talk about it and open the conversations up.
I think that the fastest ticket to human evolution is
self discovery and inner growth. I think the more inner
(37:45):
work we do on ourselves, the faster well collectively grow
as a civilization. I agree, and that's a beautiful way.
The end of this interview, Yeah, so much for lending
your amazing mind. I'm like you did about everything you
just told me, and I miss you already. I'm so excited.
(38:06):
I'm gonna text you later. I talk to other stuff
because it's I feel like we're onto something. Yeah, definitely,
I love this, and yeah, reach out to me anytime.
I love talking about all of this stuff anytime. Me too.
It's almost becoming like my obsession. Yeah. Yeah, there's some
other artists too that like, are really into this ship
as well. I think it can't hurt for us to
(38:28):
stick together, you know. Yeah, I have a feeling by
talking about it, and like, could be through music, but
it could be through conversation, it could be through other
forms of art. Who who knows, but I feel like
there are people experiencing this and it's happening. Yeah, definitely,
Thank you so much for being on my podcast. I
love you, Thank you, love you too. I'm so glad.
(38:50):
Thank you, thank you U
Kesha and the Creepies is a production of My Heart Radio. Yeah,
it just I had this experience where, like, all of
a sudden, I was like, sounds so wild. I know,
I don't fun to say this. I'm so new here
(00:29):
Kesha and the Creepies. We're welcoming the fabulous, legendary iconic
Demi Lovato. Hi, Hi, Oh my god, thank you for
being here. And you look fucking fabulous your hands. So excited,
so excited to see your hair. Oh, thank you. And
I know it's a podcast and it's not creepy, it's
(00:50):
just beautiful. How long ago did you do your hair
like this? So I thank you for having me um I.
I'm so excited to be here and I've had my
hair like this for I think like two weeks now,
just about I was so excited today. I was like
I can't wait to see it in real like thanks,
(01:13):
mine was black yesterday. And then I was like, you
know what, I feel like the light is coming this
new year, and I want to bring the blond back.
And so now I'm like in this in between kind
of this isn't the final look, right, That's how I
feel about this, Like I wanted to go like platinum,
like almost white, and it's like my hair was so
dark that it literally this is all I could do.
(01:35):
Yet I have to get it like healthier too than
I can take it lighter. That's we're on the same
hair journey, because, yes, especially after I don't know about you,
but for me, like hair is such a big part
of the whole thing. Yeah, it is. To me, it
was more of like a spiritual and emotional thing rather
than like, oh I need a new look or whatever.
(01:58):
It was like I've been putting my hair up in
a ponytail for so long, and and there's other reasons
that I'll get into later, but you know, I've been
putting my hair up for so long that I was
just over it. And then finally I feel like I
feel more like myself. You know. I love that. Yeah,
you look stunning and radiant. Thank you. I'm you. You
(02:20):
look so beautiful. Girl looks like a princess right now,
and you're set up. It's amazing in my queen chair.
Thank you. Yes, I'll go. The first question I ask
everybody is are you a believer in the supernatural? I am?
I so am? Okay me too. Yeah, that's the podcast
(02:42):
I was reading, like through your Instagram page, and there
was one post that you did that caught me in
a way that was so bizarre, because you articulated how
I've felt about extraterrestrial life in such a public way
where I was like, holy sh it, like he's going
for it, Like this is how I think in my head.
Someone is putting it out there in a perfectly articulated way.
(03:04):
So I just really want to ask you about your
experience in the desert with Stephen Greer, how that came
about what happened. Yeah, okay, So I've basically I've always
been a believer. When I was young, I was very
interested in the planets, and so for for Christmas one year,
like I asked for a telescope, and it was the
only thing I asked for, So my parents went all
(03:27):
out and got me this really nice one. And the
problem was it was so nice, I didn't know how
to use it, and so I never used it. But
I've always been fascinated and just about I just always thought,
you know, it would be so selfish of us to
just assume that we're the only life form out there
in the universe, and so over the past I guess
(03:49):
the past year, I've been doing a lot of research
and it wasn't until so I had watched Serious years ago.
Then this year I came a cross close Encounters of
the Fifth Kind, which was Dr Greer's most recent film
that he released, And so I watched this documentary and
(04:10):
it really piqued my interest in making contact. Like I'd
always been a believer, but I had never taken that
next step to try to make contact, and so I did,
and I just realized he was really the one that
articulated the importance of why we should look into this
(04:30):
and what are civilization is facing as a threat if
we don't look into this, and and it it gets
really scary. So yeah, I just I know the importance
of it. And after researching into it, I ended up
there's an app that you can download and I started
using it. And then on my twenty birthday this year,
(04:51):
which is really interesting, it's my year sat in return
um tattoo. Nice. Yeah, So on my birthday I made
contact for the first time. I meditated, Yeah, okay, I
wanted to know what contact means. Yeah. So basically, me
and UM, some of my best friends we had all
(05:14):
gotten tested and so we were all together and it
was I was like, what can I do for my
birthday this year that, um, we'll be safe, and so
we we. I got a house in Palm Springs and
I went out into the desert and on the night
of my birthday, we're all just like we'd spent the
whole day by the pool and um that night where
I was like, you, guys, I really would love to
(05:35):
do a group meditation and try to make contact. And
my best friends are all for it. So they were like, yeah,
let's do it. So we did. We meditated for about
thirty forty five minutes um together, and then we laid
out under the stars and we were just staring up
at the sky. And so what first happened was this
(05:57):
we played these tones this app that you download. Do
you play these tones, You meditate and then you play
the tones and you wait for things to show up,
and well we did. We saw this bright light. We
were all laying down on the ground, so it was
just in the center of the sky. You also do
this visualization where you try to direct the the e
(06:18):
T s where you are like you you visualize the
milky Way. Then you visualize our sun to our solar system,
than our planet, than the continent, than the country, than this,
you know, state, than the city that like, you go
through this whole thing, and you you're kind of like
make you're just putting a signal out there in case
they are passing by, like a map, like a like
(06:41):
a pin. Yeah, you're you're giving them a pen. And
it's like this Google Earth type zoom that you do
onto your location. While we were laying outside and all
of a sudden, we all look up and this big
ball brighter than any object in the sky. One This
was around like ten something PM, so I think it
(07:02):
was too late to be a satellite. Satellites only orbit
at a certain time of night. I heard, um, it
wasn't a plane because the way that it just came
into this guy right above us, and we were like,
oh my gosh, guys, do you see this? You know,
we start freaking out a little bit, and then it
just starts moving in these like directions that it's clearly
not a plane. Then it stops, it goes down like
(07:27):
a falling star almost, and then it stops again and
then it backs out. And the way that it backed out, yeah,
it was it was. There was I literally was like, okay,
so there's there's no debunking that, because there's no that
wasn't a shooting star, that wasn't a meteorite, that wasn't
(07:47):
a satellite, that wasn't a plane. So what the funk
else could it have been? And when that happened, I
was shooting a talk show for Quimby and and um
Dr Greer was one of my guests on the show,
and so when I interviewed him, we started talking and
he told me some really cool stuff, and he also
(08:09):
invited me out into the desert, and that's when the
cool stuff, like a lot of cool stuff really started.
That was just the first time. Yeah, that was the
first time without Stephen Greer. That was just all my
own with my friends. Yeah. Whoa, Okay, so we haven't
even gotten to the crazy ship. Yeah exactly, because like
that's what I've seen some light patterns in the sky
(08:33):
and my boyfriend and I and he's more skeptical than me.
So I'm like, there's the spaceships and he's like no,
trying to explain it all away, and then he came
back and started making different formations. So that's about the
level that what I've experienced, and I'm the kind of
person where I gotta see it. Once I see it,
I believe it, but I have to see it, I
(08:53):
have to feel it, whatever it is. And so now
I'm so curious how you took that further. So Dr
Greer and I had talked about going to Joshua Tree
because that's where he goes to make contact a lot
of times. And so him and a group a few
of people from his team, and then UM me and
(09:17):
once again a couple of friends of mine. UM all tested.
We're negative. So we all went out into the desert.
We did this thing and basically we we lined up
these um zero gravity chairs like in a circle, and
we had a sound bath going for the first fifteen
twenty minutes. Then we would do a pussia. What is
(09:38):
the pushia. The best way that I can explain it
is it was this meditation and it's kind of like
you're giving sinks. I had never done it before, so
this was my first experience with it. And Dr Stephen
does it whenever he goes to make contact. But Pusha's
I think it's a meditation that you can do to
help raise the vibration or the frequent and see of
(10:01):
everyone around you. I'm not really entirely sure actually, but
we did that and um, and we would just meditate
and then so the first night, it was like an
hour before we saw anything. Maybe we looked up in
the sky. We would see these what Dr Greer calls
alleged shooting stars. Because we're in the desert, so you know,
(10:21):
we can see everything. We probably saw a lot of
shooting stars. So, but there were there were times where
we would see something shoot across the desert and then
we would see a military plane come in right after,
and it was just weird because we're like, well, if
that was a shooting star or whatever, why what's the
need for this military plane. So at one point on
(10:42):
the second night. The first night we didn't see too much,
but the second night we saw the most activity. There
was this really really bright light. I caught a video
on my phone. See all of this would make me
feel so fulfilled in my soul. When I see things
(11:03):
like this, it makes me feel right because there's a
bigger purpose. It's so much bigger and especially as us
as artists, we live or we work in a career
that's very um so, I mean, it could be a
very self centered career, you know, is a very narcissistic
kind of career. But when you start to see the
bigger picture and you realize, hey, this isn't just about
(11:24):
me and my music anymore. This is about how I
can like raise the vibrations of other people and and
help elevate our planets frequency to like I don't know,
it's it's it's so much bigger than us, and that's
that's what gets exciting. And then when you're like when
you make contact and you see that these beings are
(11:44):
really rooting for us, and that's why they show up
when we when I try to make contact, you know,
they show up of the time, and it's because the
signal is out there and they're here again. They're like
I I truly believe in my soul at least what
I feel these beings are like, they're doing the work.
Let's show up for them. Let's pop in and give
(12:05):
them a sign they're on the right path. And so
that's why I continue to meditate and fill my home
with crystals and all these things. That our civilization has
been kind of guided and directed that way on that
journey for so long. I think self discovery and self
growth is the key to evolution for humanity. Actually, I
(12:28):
agree with you, and I feel like as to people
that are in front of the world and singing songs,
that's something I've realized, especially this year too, is it's
more than just singing a song and hoping it's a
hit song, Like, and it can be so narcissistic because
it feels like when you're about to go on stage
and you're getting zipped up and you're putting your ears
in and some drum sounds sounds weird, Like it feels
(12:49):
like you're it's the biggest deal in the whole world. Yeah,
and it is because I care about what I do
and I want to do a great job, but like
it really isn't a big deal. And now I'm kind
of pressing more on, like how can it be a
part of raising the vibration of the entirety of the world,
not through me, but like just putting intention behind everything
I'm doing, just positive and like empowering. And I feel
(13:12):
like you've always been that way too. It's just even
through your music face value, like confident things like that,
where you're just promoting people to feel the best that
they can in dancing. I think it's such a high
vibration as well. And just yeah, I've been dancing a
lot lately too, just like in my I have a
dance studio in my new house and so I've been
(13:34):
dancing more. It's funny you say that, um, but yeah,
I I do a lot. Like yeah, it's all of
that stuff. Anything that's gonna raise my vibration and and
turn hopefully raise other people's vibrations. Like that's the path
and journey I'm on, you know, I don't know. I
just have like chills every time time you're saying these things.
It resonates so much with my heart because it isn't
(13:54):
just about me. It was when I first started and
it was crazy, but now that I kind of have
weirdly gotten used to the lifestyle, now, I just want
to do things that bring awareness and I want to
listen and I want to be guided and I want
to like it's almost like asking for help from the universe,
being like, Okay, now I want to be of service
to this planet because I see some people destroying the
(14:16):
earth and like, yes, treating it like we're not totally
dependent on this place we're living on, Like that's The
confusing part is we should be treating the Earth with
so much respect because we're in a symbiotic relationship where
if she goes down, so do we. And I don't
know how that's so lost on people. And that's why
I think it's so important that no matter how many
(14:37):
people look at me as quote unquote nuts for thinking
of or believing in all of this, it's like, I know,
the importance is that we have to declare disclosure for
the American people because demand it like demand. We need
to demand disclosure for our civilization because what lies in
(14:57):
those secrets is not just the existence of unidentified flying
objects or extraterrestrial beings, but what lies in those secrets
is the technology that could save our planet from climate
change and global warming. You know that that technology has
been hidden along with all of this other information and um,
(15:19):
and it wasn't until talking to Dr Stephen Greer that
I really realized that, and also watching his documentaries. But
he's told me some really cool cool things and and uh,
but but what we saw, I'm sorry I was getting.
I was looking for loving everything you're saying, which again,
like I also loved Commander in Chief. Like when you
(15:41):
think you. It was like, Fuck, yeah, you're just such
a badass and it's so weird because you put in
a post. I think you put it in the post.
But if we would all meditate together, I had this
crazy thought a couple of months ago, like what if
a bunch of artists got together. It wouldn't be everybody,
but at the stroke of midnight on whatever date, everyone
just did one minute of oming. I just wonder what
(16:04):
that would do for the planet. And I know that
sounds insane and like some crazy thing that nobody would do,
But what would happen. What would happen? Because oming actually
has health benefits. It can lower your it can help
your immune system, There's so many things that can do,
so not only is it good for you personally, but collectively,
Like if if our fans were to also tune in
(16:26):
and watch and meditate and um, they might be able
to tap into something that there's gifts to meditation that
I think we're all capable of accessing. Like I actually
believe that everyone has psychic abilities if they meditate enough
and are able to hone in on those gifts through meditation.
(16:47):
The more and more I've meditated, the more little rewards
I've gotten, which is I used to think like why meditate, right,
I can't sit still blah blah blah. It's like one
that's the whole purpose to it. There is a reward
system in a weird way, like I love jiu jitsu
because there's a belt system. You know, you can you
can work towards something. I was like, well, what's the
point of meditation if you can't work towards something. Well,
(17:09):
now I've realized that those things that you work towards
are making contact, it's furthering your psychic ability. It's remote viewing.
It's things like that that are like gifts that come
with meditating, which is actually really beautiful. What is remote viewing?
I've never heard of that before. So remote viewing is
(17:29):
where you can actually see something from where you are
psychically but in a different location. So I could like,
I can't do it yet, but yet I'm working on it.
But like I could describe the room that you're in,
and you know, it would have nothing to do with
(17:50):
me being there before or whatever. It's just through psychic abilities.
So there's yeah, there's there's always cool little things that
like I guess I don't know. I guess because music
just doesn't do it for me like it used to anymore.
Like my life just became so much bigger than just
music over the past year. It became about activism. It
(18:12):
became about trying to save the planet, but also not
putting that weight on my shoulders just like too much. No, No,
it's just like it's like, what can I do to
help others this year? And yeah, it's been very freeing. Well,
it's amazing because I can almost feel that it's okay
not to be okay. That song feels like it's being
(18:33):
of service to people that need to hear that message.
So it is a song, and it's a great song,
and your voice is fucking insane, Like we all know
that your no. I was. I've like rewatched your documentary
and just watching you sing is like, oh, you might
be an alien. I think maybe you're an I think
(18:57):
that as the highest complement ever I mean, I mean
as the formal compliment thank you, but I kind of
feel you. I love music. I've always loved it. I've
always had a passion for it, and I love touring,
but the main thing I love is bringing people happiness
and acting and that connection is what I think I
missed so much this year. Was like I don't miss
(19:18):
putting on the outfit. The ass's chaps are like a cherry. Yeah,
but like it's somehow becoming bigger than me and I
want to do more and have these kind of conversations
and just I don't know, explore the stuff that keeps
life really magical and also ways to stay connected to
(19:41):
each other and potentially to other worldly or other dimensions,
things that we can't really explain but are there, yes,
and it's almost taboo to talk about. Yeah, and that's
what's it's frustrating to have so many people kind of
put you down for wanting to spanned your perspective on
(20:02):
life outside of human civilization. You know, it's people shouldn't
shame you for wanting to believe in things beyond our understanding. God,
no shame should be to me. I feel excited and
like I am like want to pick your brain because
I want to know what you've seen and I would
(20:23):
love to raise my awareness. And then the people I
talked to about it, like even just through talking about
it on here, hopefully people listen to it and we're
not actually crazy people. Maybe we like act like that
on stage sometimes, but we're people that are just really
connected to a lot of people, and if we can
sit here and have a serious conversation about I fully
know that there's extraterrestrial life. I've seen it. I don't
(20:45):
think I've had the contact that you've had, which I
still have to hear more about. Yeah, I still gotta
tell you, and I'm so sorry. I'll be sorry. I'm
like obsessed with this conversation because it is almost like
quote unquote crazy, and I hate that because it's some
of the most natural experiences I've ever had have been
with things that are paranormal or supernatural, and I get
(21:06):
a lot of people rolling their eyes or saying like, oh,
that's kuka doo. And I didn't ask necessarily to see
some of it. And now I'm opening my heart and
being like, no, give me more. I want the access. Yeah, yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah, I mean I've I've definitely had some
very very I've had experiences of all kinds. The week
(21:28):
that I was in Joshua Tree with Steven Greer, we
I saw a bunch of stuff, whether it was a
bright bright light from across the distance that I caught
on video the first one I don't really remember finding,
but I will show you the the the second night.
First of all, this blue orb kept, oh my god, beautiful.
(21:50):
It kept floating in front of us like ft away,
and then when I would try to walk up to it,
it would just hop another back, so I could never
chase it or get to it. But I was trying,
And at one point in the night, I literally said,
meet me in my dreams. Let's let's hang out in
my dreams. We're calling it on the contact session tonight,
(22:14):
but you're welcome to come hang out my dreams. And
Dr Greer calls this blue orb Kindness because they had
an experience with the same blue orb in the desert
where it actually healed somebody's hearing loss, and so they
named it kindness. This et and so another there. I
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don't know if you can see this, but there's these
like two lights blue. Yeah, that was caught on camera.
That just showed up in some of the pictures. Is
that the same thing as WHOA, that's insane? Yeah? And
and that I watched float in front of my friend
mod He he was sitting there and it floated like
(22:56):
right in front of his sleeve, and I was just
like I looked at ductor green and I was like,
do you see that? I was like yeah, I was like,
that's wild. And then when that's all happening, are you
just like are you freaking out? I really love doing
this and I and I love meditating so much that
it doesn't really it's to me, this is fun. Like
I I would choose a night of meditation over like
(23:20):
a night out at a club anytime, especially if it
is going to result in contacting. That sounds insane and
it almost sounds like I could be wrong, but it
sounds like how I would approach an animal or something
in the wild where you're yeah, I go swimming with
whales sometimes and the mom like will come up and
the baby will come kind of close, and then they'll
(23:41):
come a little closer, and then they'll come a little
closer and kind of judge the safety of what they're
who they're dealing with. And to me, it almost sounds
like the same thing. Like this being is like I
want to like be around you, but like I'm judging
whether or not this is a safe space. Well, they
have to. When you're making con time, you actually like
you want to meditate, you want to say a few
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things you want to say, Please make contact if it's
safe for you. In Palm Springs on my birthday, I
realized that they only showed up for like ten to
fifteen seconds, and I think it was because they were
in the middle of an airspace and like something may
have could have happened. Maybe that's why they didn't stay longer.
You know, you have to make sure that you're coming
from a good intention place. The environment of who you're
(24:26):
with is loving and supportive. You want them to feel
safe and otherwise they won't show So the most recent
contact I made, I went to this meditation retreat in
Mexico the week of the election. Actually, and um, the
foundation of the city was built. I think it's a
rose court. So the frequency of the city was just
(24:49):
super amazing and it was super easy to make contact.
We had been meditating all week and then it only
took us ten minutes before we looked up and saw
I like, we saw a ship and what looks like
a Concorde plane. You know, there's like black ones that
look like triangles, looked like that, but it had two
red lights and then at one point the ship just
(25:12):
separated into two different ships like it can't explain it,
but you're seeing it and you're just like cool, so
everyone else saw that, Yeah, all right, so what and
then you're just kind of and then it's just a
real moment of like, so do we go inside? Like
were you do we go to bed? What happens? Now?
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I had that moment with my boyfriend was like, we
saw that, So it's this weird like now what moment.
You're like, we just saw something so unbelievable. And sometimes
you just kind of go, yeah, okay, that was dope,
Let's go to sleep, and then you just go inside
and go to sleep. But what I will say, the
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most wild thing that's happened to me is it do
you know what astral projection is? Okay, I've been reading
about it and I'm trying to wrap my brain around
what it is. I've heard. I don't know exactly what
it is, though. The best way that I can have
been able to understand it and describe it is when
you're when your consciousness leaves your body and you travel.
(26:23):
You can travel to different places in the present, future, past,
or um. You can travel to different planets like there's
you can go travel, but you're basically, it's when you
have like an out of body experience. And the night
that I asked that orb to come back and hang
out with me in my dreams, I've I've fully actual
(26:46):
projected that night in my sleep, and I wouldn't. Yeah,
it just I had this experience where, like, all of
a sudden, I was like, sounds so wild. I don't
even know if fun to say. Then it's so yeah.
Well it just was like I had this experience where
I was like, come back, let's hang out in my dreams.
(27:09):
And then I was in my room that night and
these beings, which I don't remember what they looked like.
They were just like, do you want to come back
to our planet? And I'm like hell yeah. So I'm
sucked out of my room and I'm floating over the
planet and I wasn't in like a ship or anything,
and I'm just like hovering in like deep space and
(27:30):
was just like whoa, and they're like you want to
come see and I was like hell yeah. And then
I fly to this pink and purple planet that looked
like Dr SEUs, very Dr SEUs like, and then I
woke up and that's all I remember. And so I
don't know if it was just a really intense dream
or if I'm below an astro projected or I was abducted.
(27:51):
I'm not really sure, but I open to any of it.
That's insane. It was it was beautiful. And then my
friend had the same experience a week later once he
got home from the same trip, and it was just
it was wild because I was I was like, so,
(28:11):
were you in a ship? And he was like, no,
that was the weird part. And I was like, oh,
I know, it's just like things lining up. We're just
it's really really interesting and and yeah, I know there's
gonna be people that see this and they're like, she
has lost her blind No, Well, then signed me up
to because I think that the weirdest part is that
we're when you talk about it, people think that that's insane,
(28:34):
but there's so many people that have had this experience
of something similar. Yeah. Yeah, just go watch some ancient
aliens and that will blow your mind if you're not
open to this. That's what I did with my dad,
my stepdad. He didn't believe in any of this stuff,
and a few years ago I was like, Dad, just
watch ancient aliens and try to like try to answer
some of those questions. So then when he couldn't, he
(28:55):
started getting into it, and then he started you know,
now I think he believed. But I love that for you.
It sounds like really enlightening and it's an experience that
I'm like so open to having. But I feel like
it does take meditation. I think that's an important part
of making contact. And even I don't know if it
would be astral projection. I'm not sure what my experience was.
(29:18):
I had a really strange experience during this time. Really,
I want to hear. Yeah it was. It's not quite
as cool. I didn't have a blob that wanted to
be my friend in the desert, but I was just
I was having so much anxiety about the world and
like the state of affairs, and I was like walking
to the Whole Foods to get some flowers and I
(29:38):
just couldn't stop crying. I just couldn't stop crying about
people in pain and like how much pain there is
in the world. I was so upset and I just
couldn't stop crying. I couldn't figure it out, and I
was laying in bed and I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna do um my like hypnosis kind of meditation thing,
and all of a sudden, this my higher consciousness perhaps
(30:02):
or whatever you want to call God. I don't really
like love that word because that has so much baggage
and death attached to it, But whatever you want to
call it, the thing, the thing that I feel like
people look for our whole lives. It like filled my
body physically and was started speaking to me. I was like,
you're the kind of person that needs to feel things,
(30:23):
and all of a sudden I just felt this way
of light and love. And then my cat, who I
swear to God is like a little mini Buddha. He
like puts my headphones in his mouth and brings them
over to me, and I just start hearing this voice
talking to me for three hours, asking questions and visualization
(30:44):
is kind of like what you're talking about. And it
looked very Dr SEUs is the thing which tripped me out,
which is what you said. Everything looked almost like a
cartoon from the seventies or something. Yeah. Wow. And it
was the first time I could say, like, Okay, I
believe in you, whatever you are, whatever name you need
to have, whatever it is, I feel you, So I
(31:06):
believe in you, and it kind of changed my life.
And now I'm like on this path to go as
deep as I can. So I'm so curious what next
time you go try to make contact? I am totally
tagging along. Yes, absolutely, I mean literally there's sometimes where
I'll just do it in my backyard. I'll just meditate
(31:26):
and then I just will look up in the sky
for a few minutes, since you if I see anything.
But so there's tons of things that I started doing,
things that have really helped me UM be able to
like make contact easier. I think the more you meditate,
the easier it gets. UM. I think also this like
(31:47):
the study of consciousness is something I've been really into.
So I've actually been studying a lot of quantum physics
and quantum theory and just like like string theory that
because I was thinking about that recently and I cannot
wrip my brain around some of the stuff though, Like
I got my g E. D say, I got my
(32:07):
my chest my California proficiency example, I passed that, and
that's it. Um. But there, well, there's this there's this
book that UM I started reading in Mexico called A
Happy Pocket Full of Money, and it actually has nothing
to do with money. It's all about internal wealth and
wealth consciousness, how you perceive your self value and um
(32:32):
and how quantum physics actually has to do with that.
They explain it in the second chapter and how like
what you put out into the universe is what you receive.
And so I don't think I've learned about string theory yet,
but it's just like that, there's a there's an actual
science and what goes around comes around, and it's insane
(32:55):
and it's I've just been like, whether it's I downloaded
um Guaia onto my phone, do you know about guy
about this? If I love it? Guya is basically it's
a streaming service and it's like a Netflix, but it's
all spiritual content. So I'm gonna write that down too,
and then Guya And then the book you read was,
or you were reading a Happy Pocket full of Money. Yeah, okay,
(33:17):
I'm gonna check all this out because I was reading
about dimensions and how we can only operate in three
four's time, and there's at least ten, if not more, dimensions.
There's more, yeah, I mean from my understanding, So it's
it's wild. I'll send you once you download Gaya. I'll
send you links to some of the stuff that really
(33:38):
blew my mind. And I think it's just gonna be
a fun little rabbit hole we're going to go down.
Oh my god, I'm so excited. I'm so excited to write.
I have an e extra a couple of minutes if
you want to tell anybody about anything to check out
or just anything at all. Yeah, Well, my favorite streaming
service is an app called Guaya. The topics on here
(34:02):
are so cool. So, like you go to brows and
it has topics. It has everything from the very first
is afterlife, but then it goes into ancient civilizations, decoded aliens, um,
big pharma, like chakras, so it goes deep into Kim Trails,
crop circle. I mean it goes because in there's some
(34:23):
like there's a lot that it goes in them, but
there's also a ton of meditations. There's also like this
really cool show called micro Dose where it's um big
ideas and white size information. It's like seven minute long
shows but um they talk about like one episode will
be about the pineal gland, another episode will be about channeling.
(34:44):
It's just really interesting. God, that sounds like my new
honey is just yeah, And I'll send you all this
stuff to watch. It'll be fun. Oh my god, I'm
so excited. I feel like you've just opened a door
that's going to open a lot more doors. Oh good. Yes,
And I can send you a bunch of books too.
There's tens of books. Yeah, because I've just been reading
(35:06):
about it. And then that's why I started this, is
because I missed connection. And then I also want to
take away the taboo of talking about things. I feel like, yeah,
once you talk about it, you realize things are not
a they're not quote unquote crazy. And I don't really
love that word because I feel like it's really dismissive
of things that people just haven't experienced themselves, or they
(35:27):
don't want to believe is true because it might funk
with their whole system in your head of what you
think is going on, or it might mess up the
lineage of what Jesus said doesn't match up with what
you're seeing, or it just I think it is too
big that some people are scared of it existing. Well.
I was raised Christian, and so I understand a lot
(35:48):
of those fears. But I think when you start doing
your own research and you start digging into it more.
I just have the belief that, like it's just a
little bit bigger than that. Like I don't think that
the bio bowls stops. I think there could be a
Bible for every planet. Who says that you know that
it that it just stopped with Earth. Who's to say
(36:09):
there isn't a bible for every planet planet in the universe.
And each person can take the goodness, you know, it's like,
take the good and leave the rest. There's this connection
happening in this meditation that I had because I have
a hard time with Instagram and all that ship. I
have a hard time seeing negative stuff and I love
connecting with people like that's how I reached out to you.
(36:32):
But at the same time, then I see one person
say something like terrible to me, and it bums me out.
So I've been like, why go back to something that's
hurting you? Why would I go back and look at
something it's hurting you? And I was reminded by reaching
out to other artists like this, it's a connection tool.
And in my meditation, this higher consciousness, extra terrestrial, whatever, God,
(36:57):
whatever you want to call it. Some people call it
God consciousness, God consciousness. I love that just because it's like,
I don't think it's religion specific. I think it's all people.
We all have this consciousness. Um. It was saying that
the connections were making through things like how we're on
zoom right now or our phones. At some point we're
all going to be talking about experiences like this enough
(37:21):
that it's going to be unavoidable to realize that we're
all experiencing really insane feeling things and we're not actually
going insane. We're evolving. Yes, yes, and it's just we
just need to talk about it and open the conversations up.
I think that the fastest ticket to human evolution is
self discovery and inner growth. I think the more inner
(37:45):
work we do on ourselves, the faster well collectively grow
as a civilization. I agree, and that's a beautiful way.
The end of this interview, Yeah, so much for lending
your amazing mind. I'm like you did about everything you
just told me, and I miss you already. I'm so excited.
(38:06):
I'm gonna text you later. I talk to other stuff
because it's I feel like we're onto something. Yeah, definitely,
I love this, and yeah, reach out to me anytime.
I love talking about all of this stuff anytime. Me too.
It's almost becoming like my obsession. Yeah. Yeah, there's some
other artists too that like, are really into this ship
as well. I think it can't hurt for us to
(38:28):
stick together, you know. Yeah, I have a feeling by
talking about it, and like, could be through music, but
it could be through conversation, it could be through other
forms of art. Who who knows, but I feel like
there are people experiencing this and it's happening. Yeah, definitely,
Thank you so much for being on my podcast. I
love you, Thank you, love you too. I'm so glad.
(38:50):
Thank you, thank you U
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