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October 21, 2025 74 mins

A new NBA season is upon us, and TICKET & THE TRUTH IS BACK! Is this LeBron James’ final season? KG and Paul go deep on what keeps legends going. Wemby’s summer grind & meeting with Ticket, the Warriors’ window closing, and some bold East/West picks you won’t see coming.

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00:00 – Off-Cam Banter & Fly on the Wall05:00 – Summer Recap08:09 – New Season Energy08:51 – PrizePicks Picks24:12 –  AD BREAK25:14 – KG’s Fit & Preseason Grind32:00 – Wemby’s MVP Potential42:08 – Magic Top 3?! East Predictions Get Heated48:04 – Clippers vs the West51:14 – Joker vs SGA Aura Debate53:13 – Warriors Window Closed?1:01:45 – Rockets Debate: Amen vs Sengun1:03:56 – LeBron’s Legacy & Final Season Talk1:11:39 – Rookie Class Breakdown1:14:48 – KG Reflects on His Rookie Year1:16:00 – Wrap

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up before? We need to have a wrestling mattress.
You don't want no small right now. You don't want
no small like a bottom rack. You ain't doing one twenty?
I bet you deal with one twenty? What what twenty?
Dumb bouts? Niggas? You ain't doing not once? I got
the film of it? Right now? Who funk about your film?
I'm talking about what you're doing on the bank? I
recorded who ain't doing? Last week? I did it? You
don't want you got to record? You'll want to. I'm
a I'm a I'm a werewolf. Right now, niggas, you

(00:22):
don't want none of the I want none of us
right now, nigg I'm gonna go who who? Who had
lunch about wrestling? What's up? Nigga? You know you job hold?
Chuck this nigga niggas. What's up? Niggas haden? What's up?
What's happen? Shop? Let's we'll sew it. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Shup? What sup? We do what we do? And we
do what we do? How we doing? We doing? Helbow? Elbow, elbow, elbow, elbow, elbow?
You catch an elbows you catch a helbows. You catch
your hell. I'm standing in the pocket.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I'm standing here, tired out, tired, tired. Look, look, he's
tired itself out. MA get that out of you, busting

(01:24):
something out.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm fresh from the gym, fresh to me, praying Jay Man,
If I saw, I saw, I think I can get
back into the look ship, I don't do cardio. Get
your curl ship, spray his curls so we can. You
know what I'm saying. I was good man, almost kicked
you in your chin, boy, Ship, I blocked that. I

(01:48):
keep forgetting these hands registered. Dog, I can't even really
be kicking and throwing like that.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
I'm I'm I'm taking I know I can taste something.
You gotta take some guess now you're gonna take something
to get something.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
You stay in the pie, take the wrong one. You
might be sleep now. So I go offen to take
the cardio to another level. Don't worry about it. I'm
running eight minute mile. Lord, Nah, you're lying. Come on, man,
you want to put that on min nowhere. I'm eight
minute mile. No, I ain't running no maund nowhere. That's light.
That's life for me. Now, Hike, hike, goce a week. Now,

(02:20):
you're lying, man, come walking up the hill. Ain't hiking? Yeah, man,
I ain't going. I'll go.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
I went up to Whiston's name the other day last
week Calabasa stairs.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Now you can have that. I only see no niggas
doing no workouts like that, like them, like the foreign uh,
like the foreign joints. This last week, dog, what is this?
October ninth? October ninth? The moon was October nine.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
That was last week. Yeah, seven days ago.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, last week, last wednes last stars was definition of consistency. See,
I'm going tomorrow. What's the definition of consistency? Break by break?
All right, that's a week here, Get a pay child. Damn,
Laurier's still talking about me. I'm tired.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Look, I would have tired about. You gotta take tickets.
You gotta take ticket to the later rounds. He trying
to get you out of there. So I just gotta
stand there, just standing there, get into like the fifth rown.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
He don't even worry about all that.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You gotta take him to the later round You know,
I'll be shunned in the morning, be having to wipe
mynd shine because it's be so much gloss in here.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah, let's get it. Hey, when we're gonna get on
that court, we need to go out there. Listen, I'm ready.
It ain't hot, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
What I'm saying is, I've been trying to get this
man on the course for like two years. I'm a nigga.
I got the I got the lion. I'm ready.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
I'm about to start going out every Friday. I'm going
tomorrow with my nephew. We're doing every Friday.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Now. He got a regiment to go out now, he yeah,
we're going there. We're about to go right here to Burbank.
Got highlights in here, boy, this ship shining them. Turn
the light's damn, Oh my bad. You're right, you're right.
That's that old Ti my bad. Need to come out
with my own lotion. You called shine. You know what

(04:11):
I'm saying. Right, but we're back, man, let's get it.
Then here we go with the A D. D. Man.
I'm good, my little right, let's get it then, right,
my dog, you like the minic ship? You like you
feeling this? Oh my ben, hold on, hold on, here
we go. We got all the time. The niggas is

(04:32):
getting like elelementary in here. Now, man, you good see
all just love ship. Got you, nigga, got you man,
Come on, man, get it together. Man. Right, we back
at it baby, Yes, season four, that's rock nigga. Let's
get it baby. Are you funny to say? Sir? It
was some bro, It was good. I saw you in China,
was right and everything?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah. Uh, I've been I've been hooping a little bit.
You know what I'm saying. They might need a ten
day the way the league look right now, I need
I can get into a day everything. No, look last
last week and no, like actually Tuesday, I had like
about five dunks and and and and and pick up.

(05:12):
I had five dunks dunks.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah. We played like like like what you're doing?

Speaker 5 (05:17):
I went down middle like huh breakaway back door down
the middle, straight up, two.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Hands down the middle. What what? Yeah? Cat Cat had
the ball in the post. They trapped him.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
I sliced down middle called it went up boom, two hands.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah. Now I'm hearing you at the end say boom,
break away, one hand boom. It's just like just like,
are you okay cool? We're about to cameras over there.
I ain't see it on this joint. Are you usually
put anything?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
No?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
I am't recording. I don't need the things that's known.
They not to be said. You know everybody know people
that's there.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, you're getting the buddies back together for it.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
It's just I'm going right up. I just like to
you know, this is just like my routine. Now, this
is like my daily activities, our hoop a couple of
days a week, you know, go to the gym. You know,
I'm in the studio. This is just like my life routine. Okay,
sure you're finish, start throwing golf in there. Yeah, I'm
gona throw the golf in there, gonna start that up.
I'm trying to get you out there. We need to
go out there and get it out there. Late when
the last time you've been out there.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I've been busy these last two months, but I was.
I was pretty frequent, just getting you know, going to
the rage get Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We
need to go out there. I've been trying. We need to.
We need to.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
We need to get some content on that me and
you out there, since we probably like the same level. No,
we're probably the same level. I'm better than you and
well golf and golf yeah right, come on, ain't nobody
ever seen you on the golf court. Actually saw me
some host.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Saying fast, fast, where you go off that where you
go from the clip. I was just at a golfing joint. Yeah,
I'm saying that, you got put the beat on. We're
playing basketball. I'm fuck with everybody, every fucking resold out.

(07:10):
Damn man, I said, I said, relaxed, relax, relax. Y'all
wanted me to drive. We don't drive that giantself. We drove.
Everybody think GoF is easy. You got putting this ship.
You got all the putting it and the hills and
the deep grays and all that. Yeah, it's a round.

(07:31):
I think it's time to go. Oh ship, hold on, wait, wait, wait,
don't get my name right. That's what we are, all right.
We had a great summer. Man. I did the same joint.
Man went to Australia. Fuck with Ray over there. Yeah,
with the China macall that was cool. Yeah, got Capris
senior day. Man.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
I was like, no, that's funny that you said your daughter,
because I was just looking at the picture of my
daughter and I'm like, damn that our daughter.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Our kids are seniors. Don so sore they seniors. Lord, yeah,
we gotta make team. Damn.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Just when I went to the volleyball game, saw your daughter.
That my my, I've seen my daughter singing your picture
this morning. I'm like, they grown?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Where the time go? Damn that's well's I ain't even
trip just thinking that damn definition of growth. Bro. You
know what I'm saying. Damn great place to be. Man,
shout to everybody who got kids growing man. Real talk
for new season season boys season, for the pop off
the po y'all know what is taking the truth? Baby? Yes, sir,

(08:36):
certain fast, certain certified, certain fast, certain certain. It's a
green summer. Yeah, we built differently. He ain't watching the
games like I'm watching it again. Come outside, We're alive.

(09:00):
That's when you stop. We want damn, let's get it.
What what we got on the menu. Look, we got
that new thing, right, y'all know we got that new thing.
You know that new thing rise big nerve to the
price pick family, God, damn it shout the prospect. Good

(09:21):
love the family. Now, huh.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
That's a cool little squad on there though, because I
know my man Marshan and the family to word ai.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I just saw his commercial. Yeah, the other name you
Prospect what you love? Joy?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
No, not, you need to get on that Truth after Dark.
If you're listening, Truth after Dark. Right, and we got
to be you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm gassed though, Man,
gass to be over here. Man, they got a nice
little roster. It should be a cool year. Man, A
bunch of creatives in the works. Man looking forward to this. Man,

(09:57):
let's get it. Yeah, I am. That's gonna be fun.
You know what I'm saying. He that's at the Prospect
joints up just.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Right now, go to the joint. I'm downloading app right now.
That's the Prospect Predicting plate. Oh yeah, it's super said,
we're gonna run this up.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
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Speaker 1 (10:14):
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my promo? What's the promo code? So make sure make
sure y'all use their promo code KG. Now, Yeah, save
yourself some bread, get yourself together, right, let's get it.
Prize Pixures is in the bit. Look, I told you
my ship always cannot connect. Yeah, slow in here, damn
logging in for a minute. That means we ain't got

(10:36):
a bunch of radioactive energy in here. You know what
I'm saying. All right, that's what I like. I like
that it's a little slower. Here. Plug yourself to the phone,
to the modem joints so I can download something. I'm
finna give me a BlackBerry. I'm going back to BlackBerry,
Black Beerry. If you're listening, holler at me. All right,
damn got you real ship. I'm going back to the BBM.
I was cracking. So Price Pixel is giving us a

(10:57):
h A A. What is it? It's a promotional and
it's uh, it's Steph Curry. He has to get zero
point five points old point. That's easy easy money. Should right,
easy money. I'm saying the same thing as he should.
That's easy money.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
And then with price picks, you gotta pair.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Two things together, so two or more two or more
two more things together to be able to win minimum too.
You can do minimum too.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So Game one Tuesday Night, Warriors Lakers. So we have
Steph Curry more or less point five points. How do
you guys feel more or less?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
So that's more. That'll be an automatic win, right there.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Let's pair that with Luca.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Now Luca points no Broun he's at thirty one point
five points, so we have more or less.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I'm going more on that game one, more no bron
the Warriors, and I'm going.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
More thirty one. He's gonna get a lot of shots
of game one. He about to established that this is
his squad. Lucas gonna go for damn near forty. Nothing
to think about.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Tickets, goash Man first, that was nothing to think about.
Taking the whole room and my kind of reaction to
thank you rounds too much. There's too much, nothing to
think about.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Is he in? Is he in forty point game shape?
He's in forty point games shad, He's slimmed up. He's
on the cover of Men Muscles magazine. He's ready to go.
He's ready to go. I'm yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
He's just coming off twenty five in the last game
pre season and he only played twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
He's ready to go. Thirty one plus easy money, money,
easy money. I'm a double team playing. If the Warriors
stopped Lucas, nobody on the Lakers team, I feel like
they can go out and produce points at that rate. Yeah,
you got you got re rees. He gonna give you
a dub he's gonna give you about twenty maybe fifteen

(12:51):
to twenty. Yeah, I'm anticipating it being better than that. Right, Yeah,
they're gonna give me more. That's a lot, though, bro
to be in shape thirty He and major muscle magazine. Man,
that's man. Don't started on that. Now. He was on
the cover. I saw it, all right, come man, that's
what we're doing. Come you believe it? You believe it? Yeah,

(13:14):
I saw the cover. So what happens in January when
he's overweight.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
No, he's gonna be in shape. He's ready to go. Now,
you're a Laker fan, know, I'm said what Luca's doing.
I'm trying to put see that's what you're trying to
do right here, that's.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
What you put word. I'm rolling with Lu. I'm rolling
with Luca. I didn't say I was a Laker for
sh man. I don't know what man, the world is
upside down. I don't know what's going on. I mean,
he's only average thirty the last ten years. But you
act like he didn't get in November. In October. No,
that's like when when broke it into a rhythm. That's
more like man. Late December January the same when we

(13:48):
played He's Luca first night over thirty let's see it
thirty one and a half.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
You guys both got more Steph Curry point five points.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
You both got easy money.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
The second game is okay, see night and we got
Kevin Durant on the Rockets in Houston coming in their building.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Right, So Lee know what they're doing, Bro, Yeah, that's good, Lee.
You know what they're doing, right KD.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
They have him at twenty five points. So we're going
more or less KD with the new team with the Rockets.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
I'm going less KD at OKC in the Houston Rockets uniform.
I think it's gonna be a lot of emotions. He's
still getting to understand what his role gonna be at
this age. I feel like he's gonna have to defer
to Sagoon, to amen to the other kid, Junior, Jabari Junior,
because he got to be like these the youngster's got
to carry him through the regular season and he gotta

(14:38):
get him confidence. I don't feel like he should try
to come out and get twenty five thirty. I feel
like he know what he can do, so he should
be like kind of like, let me get the young
boys off. I'm going less with KD.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Okay, I'm gonna go You said twenty five, So if
he hit twenty five, he hits.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It, it's a wash, a wash.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
If twenty five, you gotta get twenty six ticket. Okay.
So so what I love about this is both teams
have some incredible depth, feel me. So it's going to
be played into the the ninth tenth guy, right then,
I don't think this, this is like a preview too. Right.
So my real reason for I think Houston getting a
player like Katie is for the fourth quarter. Fourth quarter.

(15:20):
I don't care what you're doing, you still have to
pay attention to this man. He can still get money,
he can still take over games. He still has the
ability meaning physical attributes. Right still, Agile still can get
to his shot. I'm watching him in preseason. He's at
the free throw line. Nothing's changed, he's just it's just
going to get better from him. So y'all say, I

(15:40):
understand when you say less because he has a better cast.
But Jabari Smith having showed me that he can take
he can he can be had a good preseason. I
got it. I'm talking. I'm going off with what you're
not done for me lately. That's all. That's all I'm doing.
I want to I'm hopeful in all these young guys, right,
but when you step out on the court, you got
to produce night. I saw some goon couldn't give him

(16:02):
the ball it was he threw it. I think he
threw it out of balls. It was a terrible pass.
I'm watching body language and how you react to certain
you know what I'm saying that the Houston team needs
to go through a duration of coming together, and the
early signs don't speak to that. For me. I'm just
watching by laying his hands, clapping, you know, all that

(16:24):
loose shit, right, So I see it's still some some
edginess and some things to figure out, like all teams do.
And I don't want to be long winded here, but yeah,
until until I see that synopsis on that man, I
don't know if I can, if I can jump in
like how you jumped there. You know what I'm saying,
they gonna have to understand that supporting cast is how
they're gonna win this year. You know, one or two

(16:46):
guys may have great nights, but trying to make the
All Star team, trying those guys ain't did that yet,
you know what I'm saying, So KD taking on that
role of having to you know, fourth quarter, man, I
ain't got I ain't about trying to please nobody. We're
trying to win the game and that's and those things
come into play. So with that, I say, yeah, I'm
gonna say less, but I'm expecting them to I watched

(17:07):
like Phoenix. Phoenix thought they was gonna have a steady
dose up these three heads, and he ended up being
the same KD as Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
I think that when you go get a play like that,
he could take over. Yeah, I'm gonna say less, but
they're gonna expect KD to do and save their ass
when you know what I'm saying. I got less on
KD for the twenty five, I got less.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Next up, SGA MVP Finals MVP thirty one points more
or less in game one, you.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Got Shae open the night Shave, open the night Shade
getting them free. Oh, nash Pick got him at thirty
one more or less.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Let me see you man, I'm trying to think thirty
a lot, bro. Yeah, he averaged thirty the last years.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Listen, bro, you win mold. Bro, you don't start off, man,
you don't. You don't throw the eggs in there. Flip
that mother for one time and she ready like unless
you got high flame, you feel me like, I'm just
I'm I'm up there, like, man, if you was, if
you was, matter of fact, I would have saw if
you was ready to get thirty in the preseason. One
way he's done in preseason. Let me see what he's

(18:14):
done in preseason because I seen him. He was still cool.
You know what I'm saying. Man, you know what I
saw the other day? See this? That that That tell
you how many times has Luca played? That's what I'm
telling you. Dog motherfuckers ain't playing in the preseason. You
can't expect them to jump in the first game. Who
who they playing? Who they playing? Who are they playing?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
The Rocket?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Okay, so look the Rockets still try to find themself.
They're still a young team. And who they point guard? Amen?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, Shepherd that he's not ready for the s G
mash up. They're gonna put Amen on him.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Bro, Amen gonna have played two preseason games. On Tuesday,
he had twenty three points in nineteen minutes.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'm going more for SGA. I just heard him say
this the other day. He was like, man, it's just
thirty is a lot of points. But like it's to
the point in his career to where thirty is just
is a is an average game for him. It's a
basic game. Think about that, thirty is a basic game
for him. People is expecting him to be like thirty five,

(19:25):
thirty six, that's just an okay game. If he just
gets thirty ticket, he's put hisself on that level to
where thirty is just an old gay game. He led
the league in scoring last year at thirty two to
thirty three points. That's hard around there, hard, So thirty
is a bad game for him. I'm going more for
Shay Gill just than thirty one. And Opening night, he

(19:45):
gonna be emotional. He getting he gonna see the banner
go up, the rig is gonna go. He's gonna be like,
I'm dad, dude, and I'm about to let y'all know
I'm about to establish this from day one.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Rockets, y'all a new kids on the block.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Y'all think y'all got smoked with us, Nah out the
gate and I got more than thirty one for shake, Gill,
just out the gate.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Let's do it. You need to get your used cost.
You know you can sell some. I'm over here listening
to your ship like Pete blow. But damn, that's a
good ass right overly gass right, that's a rhythm rhythm
right then you gotta start taking bad shots.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Man, he's about to say, check everybody playing. I'm the
MVP of the league. I'm the finals MVP. I'm the
best player. I'm about to go out here and establish
myself versus Rockets. Y'all say the Rockets is next to
be linear. I'm about to get him forty last year.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
You Pete, he got a mindset. He got a mindset.
I don't care. I saw I gotta see it. I'm
going less. I gotta see it because guess what, Check
want to get off. You know what I'm saying. You
got other guys over there that want to get off.
You know what I'm saying, Man, Okse, So what's my man,
Doug Man? I want to get off.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Many Man, those kids are hungry and they're eager to
show that. Yeah, we're the champions. They got their money,
so they're not tripping.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
They ain't got nothing to do with when you lace
them and you check it up and it's it's one
on one. I ain't talking about no Britain. I'm talking
about what your bag. The cature.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
They culture. You see that culture. Ticket when somebody doing
the interview, they got all behind each other, they like, yeah, yeah,
that's my man's, that's my man's. They for each other, ticket,
you know that they for each other. I see what
they're doing.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I see it. I'm gonna see if it's consistent though,
because now you got the little bully who've been coming
up the block bullying anybody. They want to see what's
up with you. This ain't no little bully either. I
like the young. I like the young. I like Houston dog.
Houston gonna come here and they gotta show me.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
They gotta show me they got some dog in them now,
because they was they been puppies the last two years
and now they growing, They growing, the Houston Rockets just
as a group, they growing now. So I want to
see if they developed into that dog now. So that's
what I'm waiting less man.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Because I think that if he got to come out
of hit thirty with this type of team, that's not
a good sign. You know what I'm saying. When you
got an emerging check and the merging dub, you got
caseo over there that got we do. This is what
we do. I get thirty, you get seventeen, you get nineteen.
Work last year, you're in the Scholar report. Shane Finner,
come down and do what he was doing. If that

(22:16):
that means that team, the other opposite team's coach needs
to be fired, There's no way he goes through this league.
I don't think he's gonna aver as third. He's in
the b BRO to stop the ok see, you gotta
stop shame That SGA is the first thing on the board.
So coming down, I'm expecting him to get more double teams. Man,
they're gona pick him up early. People gonna try to
turn them over, knowing that they ain't get the rest

(22:37):
of they got. I don't know if this is what
they don't tell you when you win that mouth and
when you go to the finals, but you get a
shorter summer. I'm seeing guys have six months out already
to CAF and having to go to surgery and shit,
you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I'm gonna say
less man I'm going with Sga less Man because if
he gotta come out of hit thirty forty right off

(22:58):
the top of Open the Night for them to win,
that's gonna be a bad sign for me. I'm just saying, like,
that's they blueprint, that's they blue But that's they blueprint
last year. This is a whole year before too. He's thirty. Huh.
The year before that, he was thirty. They went home Maryland. Yeah,
but they won it the next year. So that's the blueprint.
I hear you, Lord, you know hear what you said.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
I ain't ain't Just like Jordan's blueprint was thirty and
we're gonna win. His blueprint for them is thirty on
they gonna win. That was for them that we're not
saying though. It's the growth of dub kso check. It's
it's about four or five guys over there that's gotten better.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Their average is gonna.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Go there if they if they want to show they
more than what they are, they need to go to
another team like James Harden did. But if we're gonna win,
everything gotta be like this.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
You don't think that the former is the formula. Okay,
that one, but you gotta know that's going if advising
in there, right, we won because of this, I hear
you know what I'm saying. We're gonna come back to this. Actually,
we're gonna come back to this conversation about let's do
ten game, let's do twenty games, and then come back
to this. Okay, to this conversation because I want to.
I want to see how they actually, you know, and

(24:06):
those are kg's prize picks, and those are the truths
prize picks Man season four with back Baby, Let's get
it Mortimer back, yes, sir, right back, Mortimer. What you
got going on here? You're looking like an essaysaying I'm

(24:30):
doing sweats and dinnim this ship. Don't even worry about this.
You should just if you button all of these No, no, no, no, no,
I'm but to leave the top button. Focus, focus. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
I'm gonna show you how they ain't not your kids.
I'm not Prince you used to No, no, no, Prince
ain't doing that here. Get me all no, no, no,
relax doing that, man, listen, shout the Prince. My dog
keep going.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
You know what I want to ask you, dog? What
you are?

Speaker 5 (24:55):
How serious did you take preseason real ship? I said,
is very series. So I think I was like my
first four years, I was after in like thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Did you play it? Everyone? What was your view on preseason?
Did you look at it like this is me to
get in rhythm for Game one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
me too. I wanted to play every game in preseason
to get ready for Game one. Okay, back it up.
In the summertime, you was all getting ready for US preseason. Yeah,
training camp and all that, right, but when did working
out start again for you in the summer man, I probably,

(25:25):
like I don't remember in my first seven, eight nine
years taking no trips really. It was all promotional trips
for like whatever brands. I was outside of that, I
was like one week off and then I'm back at it. Truthfully,
I was like if I did anything, it was on
the weekends. But I never like really took it until
I started having like a family. Yeah so, but like

(25:46):
it was like one week off, I'm back in the gym.
Let my body rest, cause, like you know, especially if
I am on a deep playoff run, you know, so,
but I'll get into it by time. The end of
the NBA season like after the after the chip July,
I mean June. I'm in full mold, full.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Two days like August, August, July, July by July, I'm
in full mold like me too. Yeah, And then Peete,
when did you implement new things that you wanted to
add into your game?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
When did you do that when you went out and played?
Did you make notes? Did you sit with the coach?
Did you do stuff? I really didn't. I did a
lot of stuff myself.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
I watched a lot of film of players who I
want to emmulate certain moves, stuff like that. I watch
Big Man for my post stuff. I watched you know,
point guards for stuff out out top. I watched The
swing Man.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
You know.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
I like watching a lot of like players that was
like me more like you know grand Hill, Scottie Pippen,
Steve Smith, you know them dudes mash Burned, you know,
big guards that can handle that can set up like
stuff like that. You know, I watched a lot of
them study things stuff For the most part, How important
was it for you to go in there and work

(26:54):
on some of that stuff? Like seeing it is one thing.
Actually going and having the knowledge of working on what
you're looking at is. Another said, so like, I didn't
have no trainer, so it was just like ever ever ever,
So I go in there and work on some moves
and it'll be all me and and I'm doing these.
I'm practicing these in the five on five when because
I'm playing five and five every day when I'm playing

(27:15):
once every day, so I'm practicing in game mold at
game speed. It's not no trainer passing it to me.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Do this move.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Trainer passed do this move. No, I'm doing the move
as I ain't playing someone else working on that one
on one with you.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
That was that was big. You know a lot of
people don't notice about you. I played ones every day.
I swear to god, I've never seen someone play as
much as one on one basketball every day. I saw
you every day. That's how you not only worked on
your own game, but that's how you warmed up, that's
how you got your body. That's how because it's gang speed.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
You know what I'm saying, It's hard to go at
a game speed when nobody's there because you actually got
somebody in front of you playing defense and really trying
to play defense because you.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Got he got pride too. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
So then by the time practice started all by time,
that's like you in a full louther you like damn.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
So that was like a big part of you know,
our development in the league. One of the things I
want to stress to just the kids that are in
the league now and the guys that are in the
league not to call them kids my back. I don't.
I don't know if this generation takes the cardio as
serious as as to pass. I think I think that now.

(28:24):
I think guys think that they the pace is so
so fast that you can get in shape with the pace,
and I think the ideal is to come in shape
for the pace, right Yeah, And I think it's backwards
a little bit. I say that to say because I'm
watching a bunch of guys either get hurt or can't
keep up with the pace, you know what I'm saying.
I'm seeing a lot of guys sit out of preseason.

(28:46):
So it just makes me think, are we looking at
a different mechanism of how guys are getting into rhythm
or should we still expect that rhythm to come from
the preseas, because I think guy's look at that preseas
like man, I don't play no preseason game, and oooh
it's fun. Sure, the rhythm of the first night for
the first team, right, yeah, I see that across all
the sports though too.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
I see it in the NFL also, you know they
don't playing the preseason games. And I think, because guys
is looking like, well, I don't want to get hurt
in a preseason you gonna like that's that's the mindset.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
You're doing anything high here, Bro, you're gonna get you gotta,
you got, you got a percentage of getting hurt. It's
just what it is. If you ran out here and
ran across the street and carts coming across the street.
You know what I'm saying. It's a high risk and
all that. So I'm saying you can't use that as
no excuse, especially when we're trying to get in rhythm
with rhythm is a real thing.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
It's it's not only rhythm, ticket it's in shape. Because
I don't care what you do in the summer, because
I did a lot of Sad Hills.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Beach, It's dunes downstairs.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
But when I played in that first preseason game, I
was tired, how because I just ain't never I ain't
played at that pace all year, all summer, where you
playing at that pace at Okay, So even if I
go to the UCLI are you just winded?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
This is that it's two different things. I'll be winding. Okay, win.
It is one thing because now you go down and
back down the back, you supposed to be winning, right,
But when we go down the back after the free throw,
you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be over here like slobbing
asking for.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
But the thing is like, because like, ain't nothing can
simulate an NBA game in the NBA game. So that
first why you think, like a lot of preseason we're
having so many turnovers, Like every preseason you have both
teams have twenty something turnoffs because you ain't used to.
You ain't in no rhythm. You ain't used to playing
that pace. I don't I play pick up every single day.
I played once every single day I ran. But the

(30:32):
first game, you ain't going through no picks like this,
You ain't chasing Miller and rip off, no downscreens like
this in the summer.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
You know what I'm saying. So that's why the first
couple of games you use preseason to get in shape too.
You in shape. You in a certain type of shape, right,
but you that next level shape is that NBA shape
is different? You know that?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Speaking of getting into shape.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Someone that you spent some time with this summer and
I'm sure about was Victor Webbin Yama.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
What was kind of that experience?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Like?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Oh yeah, what was that? Like?

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Man, yeah, I saw you had an opportunity to uh
get with the young fellow big winby this songer.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Like? What what did y'all do? We didn't do anything.
We had a he wanted to exchange and it was
more like a some intro shit, you know what I'm saying,
just just high and by no not but he's uh,
he's on a he's on a journey to seek knowledge.
He wants okay, he don't want to be in that
box of the French player blah blah blah. He's trying

(31:32):
to break that whole narrative. I don't even think it's
about where you're from no more. It's about what type
of bag you got. He's changing the way we look
at the five position. He's changing how we're looking at
the post position. Victor is bringing a different level of
guard slash, you know, small forward to the to the
big man position. You know what I'm saying, Like, if

(31:54):
you think about it, he's mixing finess and force at
the same time, or trying to. Have you seen him
in the preseason. He's playing preseason games. He looks like
Katie and Shat mixed together. My dog. Hold on. That's
how I know you are watching the game. You know,
watching the games, Pete. That's how I know you ain't
watching the game. I ain't watching your face right there,

(32:16):
everybody in the room. And I said that. Everybody looks
to say, ext you you know I'm trying to delay. No,
I ain't gonna lie. I don't watched the preseason. I
know you haven't. He looks like.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
I've been watching the NFL right now, you blow. I
ain't watching it because they ain't preseason. They ain't playing
for a throttle, And I don't like watching that. I
don't know because I see it because because gus are
going for because I'm looking for throttle. Theers are going
forthwile looking at the statistic and I'm seeing guys play
ten twelve minutes, and I'm like, man, I get it,

(32:48):
I get it, I get it, I get it. I
understand that ain't really spark the interest to just see
you go for twelve minutes.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
But he whoever you're talking about, who played twelve it's
like a lot of the chars just like he.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Just like we saw Luke could play one preseason game,
right or who got four DMPs?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
We just talked about shape? Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
So I'm like, I want to see the actual product.
Don't give me the diet soda, give me the one
that got all the ingredients. You know what I'm saying.
So that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Another person weldn't he was in the lab with this
summer was the dream as well work from.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Him really, so I didn't get a chance to work
with him, but mentality and having a conversation about further
and being in his future. Man, I'm excited about being
able to work with him or talk to him about
simplifying things and dealing with space. You know, he's he's
did you see him grow? He's actually grown two inches.
Have y'all seen that he was seven three when he

(33:46):
got in. He's seven five this year.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Some people say he might be seven to seven.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Listen, he's actually seven. He's stretching, bro he might be
seven seven in shoes. Bro games like Shack. People, Now,
he don't look like Shaq. We know a Shock looked
like Shaq was a monster. Okay, this he another player
that put his feet on the backboard when he dumb
other than shot? Are you saying when he oh? You

(34:12):
saying oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Can we get
a coffee Starbucks? We're gonna make a Starbucks will Fred
hold on, Shack didn't shoot no threes, right, I just
shared a mixture, Katie Man. Listen, I guess Miami. He
looked like brand new money out the mint. So he
gonna be in the MVP talks because he's talking about
absolute absolutely and he leaves the league with eight blocks,

(34:36):
so defensive player. To listen, Bro, I just said, he's
tapping into a space we have not seen. He wants
to be something outside of the box. He's the best
player in the league. He's about to be something different
than we have never seen. We never seen somebody face
up in the post. Uh uh de sham. We ain't
see nobody snatch it. Lord, we ain't seen.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
This is what the only thing I said about Wemby.
I said, the only thing that's stopping him. All he
gotta do is get stronger, because he got all the game.
Now if you ask strength, like we saw with Gianni's
once Joanna's got stronger. Look what he turned into. No, man,
you know what I'm saying. That's all he Yeah, but

(35:15):
he got this, he got them now, he getting the knowledge.
I mean, look look at the system from the popa
fitch pop ain't around around his presence.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
He gave him that, He gave him that. Though he
gave him, ain't teaching like he was. Timmy came in
there four years he got ready. Timmy ain't in there.
They don't even get along. They ain't even working that jointy,
don't even come together. David Robinson is outdated. Ain't no
grace in they're teaching them. So he got to come
to the Wats. He gotta come to the wats. Everybody
when he wont me. Hey man, they didn't come here

(35:46):
for the soft you know what they came fun. They
came to me for the base, you hear me. That's
what he won't. He wants mentality. How do I get stronger?
How do I get better? And then when I'm out there,
what am I doing? Yeah? So look this is what
I'm thinking. Victor went do it. He never blinked. He
never blinked at me. He looked at me the whole
We were there for two and a half hours in
the football field where he was training that and he

(36:08):
never blinked. So yeah, I'm looking forward to work with
the young fellow. But what he looked like early on now, man,
bro check his game out against Miami. What he looked
like against the Jazz and he's playing pete. Yeah, and
they got a nice team, bro, Bro, they got a
nice young team. Yeah, I know, I know. He got
a nice little team San Antonio to make the jump
this year. They should be up there with the you

(36:28):
know when you know when we first started seeing okay
see and they had all those players was the old man.
That's how I'm looking at the spreads right now. Spurs
on the list, Bro, they're on the watch list. Okay.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Speaking to your strength, Victor Webbinelm was recently interviewed and
he said he's getting thirty pounds since entering the Leader.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Jeezus, so you know I'm saying year now, no, no, no,
I don't know what are the games since last year entering? Yeah,
that's fine.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
I don't know what that is, because he could have
just gained five pounds, like if he put on like
ten pounds.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I gotta see him. I just got to see him,
that's all. I ain't seeing him. I ain't been watching
the games. Lord. And let me say this man with
the combination of getting stronger, because a lot of stuff
that you learn from these grapes that you when you
work with you right, you gotta be strong enough, and
it takes a certain amount of strength and agility to
get some of the sawt Some of this is his
imagination to him. So some of the stuff ain't nobody

(37:17):
told him. He just thinking, oh, you know what I'm getting.
I'm gonna snatch his motherfucker there. Then I'm gonna donk.
So he doing and he left or right. He can
dunk you left, he can dunk you right. And he's
super like I don't know if I've seen him this athletic.
He's like, he'll give you a shoulder and if you
go back or no, he's finna. He comes to Shaquille O'Neill,
two hands, I'm talking about my feet on the backboard

(37:38):
type shit, you feel me? And he still got the
three balls so when somebody helps him, Jannis, you know
what I'm saying. I can see. I saw the difference
when Yanni start working with Cole myself started getting the
knowledge with Jason Kidd. When he started working with those guys,
then he did his body's maturing, and then all those
things came together. He mixed in a year row. Won't

(37:59):
nobody use the Euro like that, but James Harden at
that time, and then Giannis came and just made a
whole nother story with the Euro. Now you gotta have
a Euro on your game, you feel me. So I'm
just watching the evolution of these guys, and Victor is
right on pace for those savings. Okay, so, ering his.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Third season, I just want to ask. He was Rookie
of the Year, He's been Block Champion, he was an
All Star for the first time. What do you feel
like is the next step for him as an evolution
of him as a player.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I mean, it's shacking KD. What's next? I mean, that's
an MDV. I mean this is when he says, I'm
just saying, I ain't never heard nothing like that shot.
You know what I'm saying, you said, somebody anybody watching
the games. What do y'all see?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
What does it look like?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
It looks like that's a crazy game. Okay, let's ask
the crowd. What do you look like in Miami crowd?
You said shot mixed in with like Miami crowd, that's wild.
Looked like against the Jazz crowd, Shock mixed with k D.
That's crazy right. That means God, he got the bag half,
he got the work.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
I can't give him shack mixed with k D because
I ain't. I ain't seen him catching in the post
and just one step and just watch the game. You're right,
but I can't imagine that though. I'm just told you, Nah,
I gotta give him like Jannis and KD or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Ain't put his feet on the backboard. Joanna's is trying
to tear the rim off every single time. He don't
wait till you see this Jis like this is Winby,
Like yeah with shocks. You're taking him over Jis right now?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, actually yeah, funk out of here.
I'm yeah, this is a marathon. You're talking about the

(39:39):
marathon or you're talking about this spring talking about right
now today, I'm talking I'm riding with Victor bro today.
I'm not talking about next year, a year after next
time that I'm talking about right now. I'm still taking.
I'm still taking Janni's over here. I is still trying
to get his you know, brothers on the team. Don't
you know if you're gonna be in Milwaukee, he's doing
the but your other ship and ain't got nothing to do.

(40:01):
I'm rid with Victim. That's what I'm talking about. That's
what I'm saying. This kid got so much upside. Did
if you get some knowledge on top of strength, Yeah,
I said, Shaq and Katie go look at the field.
I gotta see his mindset. I got to pull it up. Fred.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
I know you're watching it right now. Yeah, I see
his game, but I got to see his mindset. This
is his mindset. What's the next question?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Man? Go ahead? This this is there man.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
I mean yeah, yeah, I see you believe it though,
I mean, go get your victory. Y'all be playing pom
poms then go get yeah, yeah, go get them.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Shout the Victor keep going, Lord right right.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Just to close this out, Victor was an all start
A second year Giannis say four years.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Don't say nothing. The man they watching the game man
watching football, Get get Beastmoe in here with him. Yeah,
go over some football players, hook go across the middle.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Peak as pre says, I'm ready to start watching games regularly,
to start watching it. Listen, I'm just talking about what
I'm seeing. Young fella is playing already. I'm gonna put
them on my favorite lists, on the favorite circle, on
my favorite they gonna come off. What are you talking

(41:11):
about right now, Orlando? Yeah, what about the pumpm Orlando out.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
They're gonna be real. Go ahead, and they're gonna be real.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Who's gonna win the Eastern Conference?

Speaker 3 (41:24):
We got Tatum out achilles injury, Halliburton out achilles injury.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
So the East kind of has a little bit of
movement here in.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
I think Cleveland's gonna win the East. I think New
York Knicks is gonna be right up there with Cleveland.
I think either of them, depending on health, can win
the East. But I'm saying Rando is right behind them
as the next tier. And I told ticket this at
the end of last year that Orlando will be a
top three team in the Eastern Conference. So I'm looking

(41:55):
for Paolo to take the next thing. You gotta understand
Paolo missed thirty something games from Wagner missed thirty something games.
They both have abductor uh uh, you know injuries.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Forty six sixty Frona get anywhere.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Your best player ain't even on the team. He didn't
even know the court for fifty games.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Yeah, and they ended up like a sixth seeds or
sixth seed or right, he gotta be available, bro. They
still became a sixth six and they got to add
at Desmond Bank. So imagine if they're healthy, if they
if this Orlando team is healthy, they got a superstar.
Let's not take Powell is a superstar in this league
one hundred. He should be on the next Olympics. Now

(42:33):
you got Franz Wagner is an all star, fringe all star.
And then you got a plethora of like role players
are really good. When you talk about Suggs, you added bang,
you got good coaching down there, You got the other
big Wagner who come off the bench and give him energy.
And you got Wendell what's his name, Windell Carter down there.

(42:54):
That they are solid team. And I saw, I know
Boston whooped on them. I think it was like four
to one. But every game was and they had no
answer for Pollo. He was giving Boston the Blues, but
they just couldn't win. But I'm telling you, Orlando, don't
sleep on them. If they come out the East, don't
sleep if they come out of the East, don't sleep
on them.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I think they got the best player in the East.
You're taking Pale over over Janni's hold on his mic. Michael,
I'm not right now, Mike, turn the mic up. Fred,
thank you, you're taking young what Okay, so wait a minute,
hold on thinking about it. I'm thinking about it right now.

(43:33):
The next question, am I taking him down? I like
the Knicks. I like the Knicks in the Cleveland. I
like I like the Knicks in Cleveland because of just
where they were last year. You know when I watched Okay,
see take all this progression is because their best player
was getting better. I see, I see Brunt, Sion and
Cat being a dope combination that you got to stop
with a great cash. I'm watching the depth of Cleveland,

(43:56):
Cleveland playing both sides of the ball. I think they
got better by putting DeAndre over there. I mean, man,
they I really like Cleveland. I just want to see
how they look consistently like the one question mark with
all these teams is just the consistency. Can your best
players be available to play? And if so, that's what
I'm That's what I'm That's what I'm That's what i'm

(44:18):
That's what I'm looking at, because if you're best player
nowt here Pete, you don't have a chance. And that's
just how it is. So I think Orlando's gonna be better.
I don't think they're gonna better in Cleveland. I don't
think they're gonna better than the Knicks. So I think
I think they're right there too. But ain't nobody talking
about Indiana. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
They lost, They lost their best player and can be healthy.
That's why you hear me. And then you know what
I'm saying. I just saw Jay Brown.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
He he would left out the first quarter, would have
hend me like you hear me, Bro, We can't make
true assessments on these teams. Bro, if some of these
guys are not available, you know what I'm saying. You're
gonna have we sit. If you're talking about all these James,
Atlanta got better. You know what I'm saying. We ain't
talking about nine teens nowe These teams ain't glossy and
it's shiny like the chain and ship. But man, these
are solid teams.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Atlanta is good enough with porzingis uh the JJ kid
who was hurt last year, and what's my man? They
can with that. That's what I'm saying. I like the
talent on Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
We're not talking about Philly, phil they can't. But they
can't just go from the bottom to the top. Atlanta
they cash.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
They can't. Why they can't, because they why they can't
when your best players hurt in Orlando for fifty games
and your best player I'm talking about Atlanta, Lord, I'm
talking about Atlanta, But I'm talking about when all these
other teams get canceled out because they the best player
missed fifty games. Jason Tatum adn't even touching the court
this year. Jay Brown went out first court. So guess
what all these teams start that you got up here

(45:48):
started doing this and then all these other teams. So
ain't nobody talking about right, Ain't nobody talking about Atlanta?
Right until Atlanta comes in here and they father and
know when you're like, what the fuck? Well, and yeah,
they got their best player, but they dogs, they play hard. Right,
they still got over there. They've still got that little
that little core over there, so they can they still
feel like they can win. Right. We ain't even talking
about their dishance to none of these teams. That's what

(46:08):
I'm talking about. So we're gonna start seeing as as
as all these stars and all these other teams that
don't have their stars, who need their star, who start
heavy and they don't have it and they start dropping.
Here comes these other teams that are just solid. That's
what I'm talking about. Because listen, ain't nobody talking about Charlotte.
You're laughing high hoigh shot, man. Charlotte is a young
team and they keep getting better every year. No, ain't

(46:31):
nobody got them in no skull until all these other
teams start fucking around. Listen, young teams gotta learn how
to win, man. Okay, see did that? I'm watching the
young Houston make the same things. This is the this
is the formulam right here. Bro, Washington, Knick's not been
together what a couple of years now, Bro, they went
deep not man, Listen, the Knicks are up, the caves
are up. They feel like we're up next. So I'm
looking for that. But the stars gotta be available, man,

(46:54):
start Listen, Man, I don't know what's going on, but yeah, man,
you need your start to ask to progress.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Man, let's move west. So obviously, okay, see trying to
defend their title. Denver had a great offseason.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
The Clippers. Who have you seen the new teams in
the West? Team up? Yeah? I mean I've been paying
attention for a little bit more Clippers. We got God
damn Brooklow pezz.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
I mean, Clippers arguably got the most talent, arguably in
the West. Like but you know we've been saying that. Yeah,
but we've been saying this about them for some years now.
They like last year we said there was the deepest team,
like when you looked at from the top of it.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I never said that. If you looked at their team
last year, ticket, they was they had a deep team.
Ticket it was deeper than okay, see yeah they was.
It was not they were to the bottom healthy Clippers.
I didn't even play what are you up? But I'm
saying if that was healthy, stop saying it, bro, if
it was spliff, we'd be all funked up in here.
You know what, I'm saying, so what are we talking about? No,
we can't use that if Bro, if then you know

(47:54):
what I'm saying, Like, we can keep doing that.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
But I'm talking about when you look at the rosters,
you had the names, you would have said, Clippers probably
had the most.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
You're talking taper now, Bro, I'm talking about what happened
like right now. Okay, so right now when we look
at the teams right now on paper, this is what
we got off right now before the season. That's right.
So right now, when you look on paper, the Clippers
probably got the most talented. Rocks this year have a
deeper They have a deeper joint. Yeah, a deeper team.
Yeah yeah, yeah, because they added what they added. Chris

(48:23):
considered them deep this year. John Collins is a big
because they needed some Chris listen.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, so they're starting five is hardened deal Kawhi, John
Collins and.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Box coming off the bitch Chris Paul Brook.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Lopez, Chris Dunn, Batoom, Derreck Jones Jr. That's a that's
a solid tim that's.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
That's that's the that's these you can do something with that.
Lou and by Donalds. We ain't even you feel me
is he healthy. Day Yeah, day day. That's what I'm saying.
We're going to politics. No politics, you.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Like, we're looking ahead. Who are the two three teams
that you guys are like, Hey, we're gonna see them
in May and Gym.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'm like, and I'm looking at Yeah, Denver, Denver has
gotten Listen. I like the ym Murray too. He got
the Wyyan little. The joints didn't shake when you shake
your hair. I like Yn Murray, Jamal wym Murray looks refreshed.
He got the joints going like like listen like and
they went back and got brown. He playing with your boy,

(49:28):
bron right. Listen man, Denver, Houston. And this is all
in the exception to okay, see because I got okay
see at top, I ain't even touching it right, But Minnesota, Houston.
I gotta throw the Clippers in there in Denver. Those
are my top heavies. Man.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Yeah, I gotta go. I think Denver, if they're healthy,
they're coming out the West. I like, if they like Denver,
because you still got the best player in the league
over there, and they was like Aaron Gordon had a
hamstring injury in that game seven versus Okay, see, I
feel like I figured like he healthy.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
That's a problem. They a big problem to Okay, see
taking Joke over over s g A. Yeah, I'm taking
Joker over s g A. Yeah, because Joker gives me
too many things, you know what I'm saying. Because Joker
can still he got an affect the game without scoring
too much, whereas like SGA got a score, kids a guard.
He does other things too, seven six steals. You know
what I'm saying. We'll talk about his stills, We'll talk

(50:25):
about defense. Yeah, I get you. I'm saying, he'll get it.
You know. He an aura. He got a young aura
about himself.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Like but the but the Joker aura is a little
bit different. It's a little bit brighter. It's it carries
so much more weight. I feel like his aura, like
everybody gravitates toward the Joker.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah, he'll say quiet and the whole thing. Yeah, no doubt.
He definitely has developed.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
He's definitely developed that ticket He's definitely developed into that
to where it's like, yes, he does have it, but
it's not as big an aura what Joker brings his
his like his gravitational pull is a little bit more
than Usgas today.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I don't know if I can even agree with that.
But we talking Marathon or you're talking Spread, I'm talking Marathon.
I respect both of them because you said you got
the best player in the league. And then that's like
a dig at the boy I'm being. Okay, you know
you can't. You know what I'm saying. Not when he
just did all that, right, he just went and swept everything. Yeah, yeah,

(51:27):
I get it. So that's all I said that to
show him some respect. That's it, because I know you
got to work for that when you came into Hell.
You want you want all that respect. So I gotta
get that. There. I've seen a man average thirty eleven
and eleven and not get the MVP. Why ain't get it?
Why he ain't get it because his team had a lesser,
lesser record than the other team's record, because another man,
because another team performed on a similar level. The other

(51:50):
team was better. Yeah, his team, he made his team,
This team was better. Yeah he was better. Yeah, man,
he had better players over there. And okay, see there,
stop Bro, he did stop Bro.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
One team you guys didn't mention is the Golden State Warriors,
and Butler and Curry last year and they played together
with twenty two and five in the regular season. They
have one of the older starting fives in the league.
But I'm curious what you guys think about the Warriors
to season.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
This is what I look at the station.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
I liked them when they first made the move, but
I look at like, I feel like the honeymoon is over.
I feel like, you know, how you get into a
fresh relationship and everything's all sparks and roses and the
dating and the flowers and all this little stuff, and
then the relationship mature. I think it's mature because I
look at them, they a year older. They got one
of the older teams in the league. I just feel

(52:39):
like the window closed on them. I love, you know,
their tenacity and their leadership and their veteran their veteran
presence on that team. I just feel like they can't
keep up with these young teams like the Minnesota's, the Denvers,
the OKC. I just think, you know, when you older
like that, it's tough. You know, this is a this

(52:59):
is a young man's league, and you gotta have some
athleticism over there. And I don't think nobody is looking
at Golden State with that presence. No more, you think that,
I think I think that. No, I mean they you
know this, They're gonna be fun to watch again. You
know we're gonna be It's gonna be fun always watching
Butler and Curry do their thing. But I just think
teams ain't giving them, ain't gonna respect them like they

(53:20):
did in the past. Teams is feeling like we're better
than y'all. Now, whereas like when you used to play
against Golden State there was a fear factor. I think
that fear factors gone. Wow, that says a lot. Damn
not to come in there and respect those guys, say
they don't respect them. I just think the fear factor
in fact, because remember you say we win a game
in layup line like that.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
That ain't happening with Golden State. No. So what you
think the movie? You break it up? The year they older,
they're the oldest team they got, They're gonna have the
oldest team in the league. You win, So what are
you doing? I think they're gonna be competitive? Well, at
what point do you break? Do you break it up?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Then?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
When do you break? Golden State? Though?

Speaker 5 (53:59):
And this still stay through all of this, man, I mean,
where else do Steph go? Steph is there till it's over.
So he's thirty six, thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
So let me ask you us, at one point does
Golden State start to rebuild when Steph retires? So that
means a couple of years, three years, four years. He
can still play three four years right now? Easy? Yeah,
So you're gonna wait three four years to rebuild? Why
not rebuild while he's here? Well, they had a chance

(54:32):
to do everything because they messed up. They messed up
because when you don't take a LaMelo ball or or
or you don't take a Anthony uh Edwards, Edwards, you
messed up your transition into the next you know. Uh,
they missed that.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
So now you just gotta go down with the ship
because they could have extended their window if they drafted right.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Dallas, We shoot Dave Dallas because Cooper flat look good?
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta throw that in
there too. Yeah. But I'm listening to you because I'm
saying they missed that wave. I don't know, some new
guys coming into the league that have a potential to
be able to be the new or be able to
slide into these new you know, what I'm saying, these
new positions. Yeah, so I don't think that they missed

(55:16):
the wave. I think they missed a wave on the
players that that could have brought him into this this
that could have made the jump or made this wave
a little whatever. Right, So you're behind that. So I'm
just trying to configure at what point do do you
make that? Because Steph is not just over here trying
to get in shape and you know, average whatever he's averaging,

(55:37):
you know, he want that to be purposeful, right, That's
who they was actually banking their buckle. They was banking
on Kminga to be this the new the news kind
of springboard into this and into this new age, right,
and you got to put pieces with him, you know
what I'm saying. You gotta put pieces with him that
are competitive in meat. I actually think Golden State plays
too much small ball for me. You know, I don't

(55:58):
think they valued the the office of rebounds, the second
and third shots. Bro. You had a marshal like go
when they play had Bogan at the five and they
played four small, they had big that big was able
to get some you know, So in the style of
which they play, I don't know if it fits, you know,
kind of in the mold of where we are today. Yes,

(56:19):
three heavy, but you need officer rebound and second chance
of chances points to be able to fulfill some of that.
They just don't match up no more. They don't match
up with Okay, see with Chat. They don't match up
with Denver and the Big Joker. They don't match up
with Minnesota and they big guys. Uh, they just don't

(56:44):
match up no more. And you old like they can't
keep up. They can't keep up.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
You keep saying like, oh there's a bad thing, bro.
You mean you said, oh, like now today, well you
got to defend. You gotta this league has you got
to be able to defend to some type of level.
Ain't scored like they used to, you know what I'm saying.
So where they gonna hang their hat on?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
So no one's run our testing straight up KG one
on one. Ain't nobody doing it no more. You actually
you actually guard your man to a space. And then
when we come together, they switching everything. So so you
gotta be able to guard. You gotta guard as a team.
So yeah, none of them and no.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
More team uh system defense like when we play like
you gotta guard one on one.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Now, it's gotta be the p everybody.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
There's no more defensive systems. Like you said, you gotta
switch everything everybody. Yeah, no defensive schemes, no more. You
gotta be able.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Butler that that's too old Warriors. But that's a lot
of knowledge. They know how to get to the free
throw line. They shoot a bunch of threes. Everybody's scared
of their their favorite player still has an aura. They
still can put it right. That's that's what I'm saying here.
They gonna be better than what people think. Bro. And
they ain't no walkovers, brotherucker pet what are they projected?

(57:59):
They're not in a scope of anybody's anything but you
you put them like they but do what you so
so so.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
And when I say that, it's like you gotta wear
it here, it's like courage going out. You can't play
him every game. You started saying, like, are you talking?
That's the era we live in, That's that's that's what
we live in.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Now. I'm not playing him every.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Game, projecting around seventh seed for them to win the
West or seventh Okay, so while paying for.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Every good No listen, but listen, they older which means
they're more susceptible to injury.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
If you know what I'm saying, you gotta factor that in.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
What you factor that in? Factor that they don't. They
gonna start talking injuries like this. I'm gonna factor that
in with Philly. I'm gonna factor that in with Golden State.
It's like, if you got a history of this, this
is what I gotta put into the uh until I
gotta put.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
These minutes down there, don't play him forty minutes, thirty
seven minutes and then now n lessens your chances of
winning these games, chances and winning it if you don't more, okay,
lessen your chance to getting hurt too.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
Listen, Bro, this is what I'm saying. That's why I
can't That's why I'm saying. That's the windows is. I
think the windows officially closed.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Nah man, listen man. You always got a chance when
you got when you got winners and champions on your team.
I ain't never count out Golden State. Yeah, they are older,
but guess what, they know how to play, bro, and
they know how to play together. Did you add piece?
Guess what they ain't lost? The main two pieces of
that court still there. They're just adding to that core.
Right at Al Horford, Jimmy Butler. Those guys know how

(59:25):
to win. Score ain't get to the line. Their leaders
in their own right, Like I ain't gonna say they're
gonna be whatever. And then all these young teams that's
that can run all day, they don't know how to
win yet. They don't know how to slow it down.
They know when to pick the pace up. They don't
know two for one all this other shit that goes
into into what you gotta have playing a better second half.
You know what I'm saying, making the adjustments. Nah, I

(59:46):
ain't listen, man, I ain't doing that. Golden State gonna
be ain't on everybody's radar. But I'm not shocked at
whatever they do this year.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
The host team last year in the first round of the.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
PLAYFFS in the first round though them nigga didn't know
what to do with Golden State Houston, they go ahead. Man,
I'm just like you said, a younger team. You kept
putting the emphasis on the owner.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Houston was in the last place in the Western year before,
Like who was really scared of Houston? Like the best
player is in his third year in the league. Like,
you know what I'm saying, they wasn't really a real
They was, yeah, but they wasn't a threat. Was nobody threat.
They did two seeds that don't matter you all over

(01:00:30):
the place and their best because their best players should
go not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
That's what I said, Queeny, That's what I seze me
the lead about what five years? Four years? He's not it,
miss be the lead three years? Stop bro stop listen
Jackson Goon, but he wasn't. Gweedy is the best player
on the Rockets.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
Stop if he's your best player, I don't really think
you going that far. Like I think he's a really
good all star. I think he's like uh, like he
has to be like your second or third best player
to really be taking them serious. Five Yeah, there was
good numbers. I mean he reminds me a lot of
Kevin Love. Like when does Kevin Love been the best

(01:01:11):
player on a really good team. He's always been the
second best or third. Like that's how I look at him,
like a Kevin Love. He can't be your best player.
You know what I'm saying, He's a really good player.
This is not a knock on saying good who's better?
Gwedy in the Rockets Kevin dur Red. Now, so now
they got a shot. You know what I'm saying, Durant
got there. Who's the best player on the Rockets?

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Sing? Okay, that's what.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Yeah, But I'm saying he can't be your best player
on a chip team. I'm looking at him like a
Kevin Love. Like Kevin Love is a Hall of famer.
He could be a Hall of Famer. Like a medi joker.
He's a medi joker.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Bro, he's twenty three years old.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Team, don't say nothing. Just let all this marinate in
the pot. Man, I don't see him. I don't see him.
I don't see him turning into a little bit. I
don't see him turning into an MVP candidate. Okay, cool
stepdadd your trip. Oh we saw this kid. Keep doing this.
Guess what with KD. He gonna have a better year
watching my shit. Listen, man, all right, it's so good.

(01:02:08):
I'm talking about the marathons and know this, And then
to be referencing the conversation we were talking about when
Golden State was playing the Rockets. That's why I was
saying the best player, That's what I was referencing. To
go ahead, May next thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Lebron James isn't going to start the season. He's got
a nerve issue of sciatica. I'm curious if you guys
think that this could potentially be his last season and
father time is gonna decide for him instead of him
going out on his own terms.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
I always feel like Lebron, you know, whether he's healthy
right now or not, this was his last year, you know,
because I just feel like, you know, he got to
play with his son. I thought that was pretty much
like kind of like icing on the cake. You know,
he got a year left on his deal. The Lakers
didn't extend him. I think he's starting to see, you know,

(01:02:54):
the end is near and what more do you left
do you have to accomplish? I mean, the Lakers is
probably not gonna win a championship this year, you know,
unless something major happened in the trade they needed. I mean,
you got Luca bron Is forty plus, you need a
little bit more. I'm not really sold on their supporting
cast bro eight, so I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Mean, I'm not really sold on their supporting cast yet
that's like a championship contender. So I just feel like, man,
he should just go out with his head up. He
should just go out with no major injuries or surgeries,
you know, because as you get older, though, you could
be that those teams, but you don't want to have
that in your last year's you know. So I think
this is his last year. What more do we got

(01:03:38):
to accomplish. He's exceeded everybody's expectations of him, and then
now we could just start having these conversations on who
we think is to go when it's all said and done.
So let me ask you this. You say you're back hooper, right, Yeah,
I've been hooping. I'm about to go after this. Okay,
right now. If the Clippers called you right now for

(01:03:59):
a two year d would you take the deal? It's
a yes or no question. It ain't a fucking clock,
it ain't a time. We ain't got time. D. It's
a fucking yes or no. Would you take the deal?

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Okay? So that means that tells me you don't want
to play. Okay, I don't want to play in the league. Okay.
If the deal was two for one hundred million, two
years for one hundred million, would you consider playing? Yeah? Okay,
So that means money's your factor. Okay, so in my
this is me digesting you. Right, I'm sitting here listening.

(01:04:36):
I think the reason Brian is playing is because he
wants to play, and guess what, he can. He's still
playing on a high level. So why not if you were,
if you still love playing, and you're still getting paid
to play, why not play till your king fuck as
you talking about he gonna get hurt it man, Listen, man,
I don't know what's going on in the world, but

(01:04:59):
every time you step from court, man, you got a
chance to get hurt. So when you train, when you play,
the last thing you're thinking about is that, bro, if
he enjoyed playing the game, I say play to you
don't want to play anymore? Guess what. It doesn't hurt
the play, It helps everything else that he's doing. That's
what I'm saying. So it's listen. We haven't seen a depth.

(01:05:21):
I haven't seen nothing of a man. A man ain't
averages seventeen fifteen, thirty man a man last year? Fuck
God at what age? Nate at best stop man, forty
year old nigga shit already be at home chilling, getting
the podcast, ready to get the multimedia, getting to what

(01:05:42):
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna sit on I'm gonna be
on Amazon, on be on NBC, on be on Turn,
I'm gonna be on av i'ma be on one. That's
that's the next move. Bro. If you ain't got bro
you have?

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
You average? What do you have? A twenty five? Last bro?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
You average twenty twenty four point four?

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Stop? Man, I'm gonna roast you your man, y'all. Can
y'all come get this work? I'm gonna give y'all this
work for another two to three years and then yeah, yeah, Bro,
my sons can't beat me. Why do I leading the
league when I'm at my bro? We can't even nobody's
been here, nobody's been here. Guess what this feels like
to me? Y'all don't want to get that deal done?

(01:06:20):
All right? Cool? Hey, Rich, hit the h hit the
hit the light on that ship. Due. This is leverage,
my dog. This is the goat telling everybody, or the
greatest of his time, telling everybody, Yeah, this is how
we're gonna run this. This feels like leverage. Yeah, he's
saying he not hurt. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
I'm not saying you said it sounded like leverage like
crystal button.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
That sounds like leverage. I ain't saying if he not
hurt or heard, I ain't getting into that. I said,
this feels like he love the game, a lot of
game you want to play. But they ain't gonna do
him any kind of way. Man, The man left him
in the JJ Reddy left him in the game. Ain't
the whole game you bogus for that? The man did
get a regular played the man forty eight. Man, you bogus.
You you should have been fired off that. You don't

(01:07:09):
leave a great like that in the fucking game in
the preseason watching the games, man, I can't even have
the conversation. Man, you don't know what I'm saying. Lord,
what game you talking about? He left on what game?
Preseason game?

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Man, last year. Man, I'm talking about how they treating him,
how they're using them. Yeah, and they just running. He
not doing that. You're not finna do that with him.
And I bet he's gonna put himself on a minute restriction.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Well, when Barbingham took him out of the game, he
got hot. So what you want JAJ, which I expect
them to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Be, He'll give him a rest JJ's fucking four quarters.
You know what I'm saying. It was a problems they
lost it anyway. Yeah, you're running them in the ground,
That's what I'm saying. So he ain't let nobody do anything.
This is leverage, and then guess what's gonna happen. It's
gonna have to be a conversation if they don't go,
they on this, they offer, they on this, and offer
because that's what he can go somebody. He can go

(01:08:01):
somewhere else and be a problem. Yeah. So yeah, man
a man, Brian, do it to your cake, bro straight up,
because when it stop, it stops. Yeah. You know what
I'm saying, Man, you love to play, you're getting paid,
You're still getting one. They're still giving us one fifty one. Bro.
Come on, man, he can do this for another four
years if you wanted to. Bro, he ain't out of shape.

(01:08:21):
He don't do no wild ass ship. Enough took up golf,
you know what I'm saying. That means it's the calmness
and everything is starting to settle in. Man, it's forty
ain't none of us being here? What now? The ain't
no motherfucker mayn stop.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
He'll be forty one December and he's making almost fifty
three million dollars this season.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Yeah, man, you talking about last they didn't extend him,
so you see the Lakers. Why the Lakers didn't put
covid Uh into the management the fuck like they some
genius will stop. Man, stop, I'm going to another team. Man,
if you want to, you can have the option. Yeah yeah, yeah,
you'll think New York or you'll think somebody could actually

(01:08:58):
want bron to come over there and help. Yeah. Yeah,
you think Boston won entertained the conversation of having him
around you Tatum and what let's talk about it and see.
Then I think this is it. I think this is
for the Lakers. I think this is it for him
the Lakers. I think this is it. I say, he
wont another ring.

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
You're gonna have to go to okay see or Denver
or something. Man, the joker, I mean that's the only boy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Stop. I mean stop, Like they gotta.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
They gotta add some pieces to the Lakers because you
got Luca Dog. Luca is arguably the best player in
the league.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Like, damn, ain't enough and that ain't enough with put
that little ship enough, that's crazy, we step out them. Okay,
So he's gonna be laying mother. You got the second
team sitting there looking at you. You buy your ship
now you you ain't enough, damn quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Just two more things. I want to talk about the
rookies this year. This rookie class is really strong with
Cooper Flag j Edgecombe har.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
I think the front runner is gonna be Cooper. I
like what he what I'm seeing from his versatility. Uh,
and he played hard every night. I like that other
kid out of Philly dj Uh. He's showing some great athleticism.
He's showing a lot of Anthony Edwards in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
I like him. What was the other kid out of Houston?
Uh A Bailey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
He's playing with Utah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yeah, he's in Utah. Like him.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
I like his skill set. I like his skill set.
I'm excited about this rookie class. You know, I'm gonna
be watching them closely, uh, you know, just to see
who's kind of the next butting stars, you know coming
into our league. Because as these guys developed, you know,
we're gonna be losing some stars in the next few years.
When we talk about k D, Steph and Lebron. So

(01:11:02):
I'm just saying, who's gonna merge. Who's gonna be I'm
trying to see out of these guys, who's gonna be
the American, you know, the American who's gonna step up.
We've had a lot of good national international players, but
this is the year for the first time in a
few years, we had a number one pick from America.
But you know, it's been like a lot of Europeans
being top picks, and so now I'm just I'm excited

(01:11:23):
about this American croppers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Young stars we got. Yeah, I like I like a
lot of the young kids too. I think the combination
of with Cooper flag with a d I've been watching
them for about three preseson three four games there preseason.
They look really good. They showed a couple of practices
and stuff. I like what I'm seeing. And then you
think about the supporting cash he has down there in Dallas,

(01:11:47):
that man Klay Thompson and Kay and all those guys.
I see Dallas being something in ahead of the schedule
as they actually made the jump. When you talk about
you know, those new new jacks, you gotta have to
be able to make the jump. Yeah, the Dallas is
ahead of head of schedule. I know. I know, the
Lucas situation wan't the sexiest and probably one of the

(01:12:07):
most popular, but it's put them in positions to be
in the front, run and up. And then I like
I like the harpy kid, Dylan. I like him. I
watched him a couple times with the Spurs. He looks fluent,
flows right into the game, looks like he was ready.
You know what I'm saying. I'm saying this, how his
decision making his pace, He's a stopping go I just
love I love how his game matches up well with

(01:12:28):
Victor and the other guys that's in San Antonio. I'm
with you with VJ. With the athleticism. This is a
really good class. I haven't seen this type of this
depth to why I was liking, like, oh yeah, I
like this guy. I like something about this Yeah. I
like the ash Bailey kid. He looks very, very ready.
So yeah, I'm just I'm super excited about these kids development.
But shout to all the rookies this year. Man, it

(01:12:49):
should be a good race.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
And last week, speaking of rookies, thirty years ago, Ticket
you were preparing to kind of jump into the league.
What was kind of your excitement level and thought process
before you kind of entered the league and played your
first game. You're in training camp right around this time
thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Yeah, man, it's my first time having to go through
something like this. Training camp. I can't speak for paulwa.
Training camp for me was a shock effect. I had
never you know, did three hour practices to this type
of intensity. My body was at a shock. I wasn't
strong enough, and yeah, I was just going through a
bunch of development stuff. But I had good teammates too,
with Terry Porter and Sam Mitchell to kind of lead

(01:13:25):
me through JR. Rod, of those guys, Doug West. There
was good guys. But yeah, you know, it started off
pretty rough, but I actually wouldn't change anything because it
smoved out as I actually got, you know, better and better.
And I think too some of that showed some of
my growth in all of that. But yeah, man, you know,
I think when you start something new and you're trying

(01:13:45):
to conquer that new thing, you go start on the bottom,
because yeah, that's where that's where you at with all
of it. But yeah, man, thirty years Pete damn, thirty
years he believed that. Yeah, thirty years, thirty years ago,
we made it happen. We are we arensd now super.
That's it. Let's get a h m hmmm
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