June 21, 2017 • 26 mins
For the debut episode, Elvis Duran sits down with the incomparable Miley Cyrus who opens up about the pain of being naked on a wrecking ball, never fitting in and refusing labels by "being a little bit of both" of everything.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I don't like to label anything. If it comes to art.
That's the worst way to stay creative is to give
yourself a box. People say that if you change from
day to day, or if you change from a year
to next year, that you don't know who you are,
that you're lost, and I think that means that you're found.
This is I Heart Radio's Label to Fires with Zico
(00:22):
Coconut Water, where we rip off labels to reveal the
size of your favorite artists and celebrities you didn't know.
We get to know the real them. Label to Fires
was created with our friends at Zico Coconut Water, who
encourage you to read the label to see what's inside Zico.
What's inside is everything. I'm Elvis Duran and welcome. This
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is our debut episode of Label to Fires. It's I
Heart Radio's newest podcast. It's always been a dream of
mine to sit down with artists and rather talk about
the stuff we read about them in the tabloids and
all the rumors that are out there. I want to
talk to them about what they're passionate about. What do
they want to talk about, because that's how we truly
you're at what makes an artist tick? What makes them real.
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And I can't think of a better person who's more
real and true to themselves and follows our own heart
and voice more than the unforgettable Miley Cyrus. So thank
you for doing this. Thank you, by the way, And
they told me the name of this thing was labeled
to fires. I'm like, well, how do I live up
to the title. So I guess people put a label
on you because of what they read or what they assume.
I want you to defy it. You know, if I
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ask you any question that seems to be going down
a road that you just know that's not true, just
call it out. Okay, cool? I like that idea, all right.
So Malibu, of course, is the first single from this
album that's supposed to come out sometime this year yep,
later this year, which I still I can't figure out
exactly a date because there's so many different things going on.
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Even with the voice now, you know, you are so
so vocal in your desire to help people, to make
sure people who don't have a voice have a voice.
So you're talking about your organization also going out to
pride festivities across the country. Why don't you just record
your song and go home. Why do you think you
really need to be out there helping people? Because I
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also really think that for me when I get to perform,
when I get to go to somewhere like Pride or
last night, I played like a pretty intimate show for
just a hundred fans or something last night, and human
contact is a nice thing. You know, people forget how
important it is to like communicate with people. I think
if people spent less times, you know, of all of
us staring on our cell phones are thinking about being
a survival mode and thinking about ourselves, and actually, if
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you can like communicate and kind of connect with people,
I think that's what keeps me going to write more
music because I actually want to connect with people. It
was really a great time to play Inspired in Manchester
because you actually got to see the way your song
is gonna affect people and the way that they can
heal people and use music for its full potential instead
of just to have something played on the radio. But Miley,
when you do a show like the Manchester concert, do
you walk off stage and have like do you feel drained?
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You know? Sometimes like I think touring also can be
really draining because it's something that's every night, and you're
giving so much and you don't always have those moments
to replenish. I guess yourself because you're doing something every day.
For me. After Manchester, I went straight back home to
Nashville and was with my family. How proud my dad
was of me, my mom and you know, of course
for them even it was kind of torn for them
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as like parents to know that during this time of
where I went to travel and went straight to Manchester
and there was some attacks in London earlier that day,
and just knowing that it's more important for me than
to think of my own comfort and to put myself
out there and to be brave and go and do
that show was something that my parents are really proud of,
and so it definitely makes it worth it. But I
think I kind of go and take that time to
be with my family, which is always fills me back
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up again if I'm failing, kind of like I've given
a lot. Do you consider yourself an introvert or an extrovert?
Does your battery charge up when you're alone or when
you're with other people? As I am with everything, it's
a little bit of both. There's times where I really
want to have like alone time even now, like just
being on this tour not having my seven dogs has
been really hard because that's kind of my big charge
up because I'm never alone because I have seven dogs,
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two pigs, the three cats. So when I reach art
is like alone, but also with the animals. I really
am like so lucky that we have animals to be
like our therapy. The thing about them is they don't
know who I am. They have no idea that I'm
out here promoting my music. They don't know like who
their mommy is. So I know that they just really
love me for me and let me be with them
and cuddle them. There's not many people in the world
that give me that freedom. They don't care if you
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stink um. I always think you don't care if I
think you're sitting pretty close, you smell okay, today you
didn't see You wouldn't touch my feet, which kind of hurt.
You don't need to like lick them. I just wanted
to rub them, yea. So the theme with you typically
is family and hearing you talk about doing something like
a Manchester concert and then having home to go to
I mean home. Of course, it's more than just a
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house and a bunch of acreage. It's this warm, pulsating
place where your family is hanging out in Mom's food
is like in the kitchen. Yeah, my mom's microwavable oatmeal.
That's pretty much it. She's gonna kill me, but that
is she's made two things, my whole life oatmeal and
bake z d. The Postmates was invented for the cyrus fact,
because that's pretty much what happens. Take out happens a lot.
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My grandma my actually both my grandma's and they always
make on Thanksgiving two separate dinners because they both think
that their recipes are the best. So my mom's mom
and my dad's mom both have the best stepping, so
they make both and then they fight the whole time
about why one is better than the other. And then
sometimes we'll switch them around on you so you don't
know who's is who's so you can like really make
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a huge mistake by saying, oh, this one is really
really good. I love the stepping, because then you might
say it's mammals and not mammy's, and then you've got
like Mammy on your case. So my grandma's are really
the ones that it sounds like a weird psychological food fight.
I know, you don't understand. My Grandma's could not be
more opposite. My dad and mom. They're kind of opposite
in their own way too, So Thanksgiving it always ends
in a fist fight. We've never had one holiday where
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we don't end up someone bleeding. That's the way it's
supposed to be, exactly, That's what holidays are all about.
So going home to the family, it's obvious. I mean,
we must assume that the family unit is just your energy,
that's your battery. I mean, you always know home is
there for you, no matter how good or a bad
a day you have. Yeah, for sure, especially even with
like OA now being on the road, she really understands
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more than ever kind of how I feel and how
drinking it is, because I think even my brothers and
sisters they always kind of felt like I went on
stage in my life. Was just like, she kind of
understands how hard it is now because my dad always
really understood, so he was the one that I could
always bent to, and my mom traveled with me on
the road a lot, so she knew how much I
was always going through. And but my brothers and sisters.
What I love about them too is know us. She's
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a horseback rider, so her priorities are always her horses.
And my brother, he's an artist, so doing his art,
taking his photos, directing, whatever it is. Now having someone
that really understands how hard it can be when you're
away from home for a month, Me and my little
sister have a new bond over that. I think so
now that she tells me more, now that she knows
that I actually do something. She always thought I did
nothing and that I just went and put two wigs on.
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She was like, what did you warn her? Did you
say I'm telling you right now, No, tell me that
this is really happening all of a sudden, which I
think she just wanted to really do it on her own.
So I'm really proud of her that she did, because
I think she didn't really involve me as much, because
she definitely keeps me involved more now, but I think
she just wanted to get on her own two feet
without this having to do anything with me. Right? Would
you try to protect her or you just say, hey,
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she's got a figure it out on her own. I
do I always, I really hope other people because when
you're in this industry. Adults treat kids like adults, you know,
And I just think the way that people judge too,
or when people would write articles on me when like
I was a kid going through all the times of
having crazy breakouts or like going through breakups or whatever
I was going through, people would treat me like I
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could handle these comments like I was an adult, like
I had this thick skin. And I think too, it
makes you get jaded and makes your garden and I
don't ever want her to get like that well. And
also it changes who you are or your style or
the way that you think because you want to please people.
So I really hope that she never feels those pressures,
and then I hope other people respect her and don't
actually try to make her something she's not because she
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has the best style. She's been my style like cons
and she was like six. She posted a photo of
the other day of her at five years old, six
years old with pink hair. Noah's always been punk rock.
Noah is my punk rock icon. There's some photos you
google young Noah, you will see why she is so
much cooler than me. Do you find that with social
media being I guess it's an important link with your fans.
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I mean, how much do you depend on it? I
think it's the best, and I think it's also great
for new artists. I have people ask me all the
time like how would you suggest to get started? Like
how if I want to be a musician, what would
I do? And I think the platform that we have
as young people is amazing because now we get to
use like social media, which someone like my dad, he
loves now if he wants to make a song, he
doesn't have to make an entire record anymore. He wrote
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a song for the Stanley Cup which Predators Be Lost.
But he was very excited about that, and he just
wrote a song about it and just put it on
Instagram or put it on YouTube. And so for people
to have that kind of place where you can just
get your music out there to millions of people like
whenever you want, is very very cool. So what's your
advice for people who are sifting through the negative bs
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that's out there aimed toward the middle. I don't know.
I'll keep your comments turned off. I love that Instagram
has that as a feature. Never read anything that anyone
says about you, so it obviously you couldn't turn it off.
And actually I was a part of that with Instagram.
I went to the head tip top of Instagram and
said that I couldn't be on the platform anymore if
they didn't start making it a place that artists really
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can express themselves and not be completely verbally abused. When
you do so, it's almost like you need to hire
an editor to edite go through it. It feels really
go when you read and say, we love this song
so much whatever, but it's not worth all the things
that can maybe stick with you. People too can become
very cowardly, and they can be very opinionated, like anonymously
instead of actually they saw you. They probably asked you
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for a selfie. But at the end of the day,
it is all positive, warm love when you're lucky. Yeah. Yeah,
I've kind of shut that down in a way too,
because I don't think people by attacking me get the
thrill that they want. I would lie if I said, okay,
nothing ever affects me. But I've been doing this now
for so long, and I've been doing in a different
generation than a lot of people have experience. Like from
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the time I really started being like in this industry,
As an entertainer, I've always been around like social and
feedback people having this outlet where they can just completely
word vomit what they think about you. Yeah, all right,
I gotta take a refreshment break. We created this game
with Zico. It's called the What's Inside Game? So what
I'll do. I'll give you rapid fire questions and you
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just say the first thing that pops into your head.
Let's play the game. You're ready, Let's go. I think fast.
The last thing you googled you don't want to know?
Why not? You don't want it? Like filthy dirty? Probably
the last thing you ate guacamole. I smell like it now.
I just want a huge junk of it out of
my teeth before I game. There. Favorite person to follow
the social media and why anyone entertaining you that you
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I mostly follow a lot of puppy sites, like I
followed Doug the Pug and he's really cute. Okay cool?
Your favorite thing to cook? If you do, I pretend
I'm a really good cook like I do, like stir
fries because you kind of can't mess it up because
he just he's like frozen everything and then microwaves some
rice and call it a day. When's the last thing
you ate meat three years ago? Your favorite morning ritual.
If you don't do it, you feel like you're not
in your day yoga, And I didn't do it today.
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That's why I'm evil, even insane. I thought you had
a Yeah, I don't feel right. Who's your go to
person for advice? My mom? Who's your role model? My mom?
What are you most proud of? Happy? Yeah? The best
advice you ever received? My dad A trying time is
no time to quit trying, he said, he wrote it.
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And then I drove by a church and saw on
the sign and realized that my dad lied about something else. Well,
maybe the church ripped off your day. So after he dies,
I feed my finger across because he lied about a church.
That's worse than anything I've done. The naked a lot,
But my dad lies about church. The one thing you
cannot live without period. My puppies. Okay, if you're an
idle mode, what do you think about the most? What
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do I think about them all? What do you just
think about? Carely? Cats? That was the first thing I
said to you today. I mentioned about cats. But you
have puppies. Puppies, I can't live without because I love
my puppies. Like I don't love him more than my cats,
but like my puppies have been there for me in
partner times. My cat jumped on my face. I posted
a photo I'll show on my Instagram and like actually
sat on top of my head, just attacking my head
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because it got scared of my dog. And it went
on the very top of a shelf and jumped on
my head and attacked me. Supposed to do that. I
just don't like how cats turn. Cats want you to.
I think about them a lot and think about how
they should be less lion ass on days when it
does matter or moments when it doesn't matter. What do
you want people to think about you? I want people
to think about what I do with Happy Hippie. I
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want people to think about what I say in my music.
I want people to think about songs like Inspired. I
want people to think about how I write my lyrics
and really let people into my life and encourage, you know,
people to be themselves. And when people tell you how
moved they are baring music and it actually changes their life,
it's the best thing ever in the entire world. I
saw a bunch of young kids last night outside of
a show that I was doing, those young gay boys.
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The fact that I started Happy Hippie, each person feels
like I started it just for them and in their
own way, they've had their own story about its change
their life. And that's the best thing that I could
ask for, because I know how it feels like to
feel like you don't fit in and to make them
feel like they belong and that can be the Happy
Hippie family. That's like the ratted stuff. Do you feel
like you finally fit in? No, I'm a freak. No,
and I love it and I'm proud to be a freak. Yeah,
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I'll never fit in. Excellent. Why would you want to
never fit in? Stand out? Always? I agree? Just three
words to describe yourself, happy hippy because all I do
is promote my foundation and free. Those are great words.
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With every answer you give for every question I asked,
the answer is ready to go. You seem totally I
just know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what you're saying,
But I don't got to think of what I say
in the last thing so I can make sure I'm
not lying. My point is, you've got this confidence going.
But you have said in past interviews with me anyway,
that right before you go on stage to perform, Yeah,
I've gotten better. I've got to see you in Miami,
and I've gotten better not being so nervous like I'm
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gonna throw up, because you don't seem like you're nervous
when you're up there. You don't look like you're about
to vomit. It's gotten better. I always feel like I'm
about to vomit. But it's gotten a lot lot better.
And I think gets because I got off the horse.
I like sat in my voice Share where I watched
everyone else performed. I wasn't performing for I guess a
year or two that I wasn't on tour and I
don't know what happened to me where I just felt like,
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I don't know, I've never had that in my life.
I was telling you where I've ever gotten as nervous
as I was just a few months ago. And I
think the response with my fans, seeing like how open
they are with my new music and watching them seeing
back as refueled my confidence. You've a an anxiety attack.
This takes over and you know, like, I don't know
why I feel like I'm just going to pass out
and black out. I would just feel that and it
would be a full on anxiety attack. But then I
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realized that my biggest enemy wasn't anyone in the audience,
wasn't anyone behind the camera. It was my brain, myself.
Do you think to improve something to everyone? I've good
and I didn't even know. You know, the worst thing
about anxiety is you're freaking out about the anxiety, which
isn't real. And when I think people also don't understand,
is that anxiety kind of is actually real. It's not
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to say your feelings are not valid. For me, I
had to go back to what yoga is all about,
which is extilling the mind, feeling myself be grounded, feeling
the weight in my feet again. That helped me a lot.
Actually was like feeling my hands we really weighted in,
feeling my feet be really grounded on the floor instead
of you know, when you're having anxiety, all your nerves
are up here and you just feel like you can't
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find yourself again and feel the weight. And I think
my fans really helped me do that of like just
get back into the groove of what it feels like
to be on stage. There's such a thin line. I
think we've talked about this between anxiety and excitement and
some butterflies. You never know to be able to understand
those butterflies you haven't your stomach actually means you're really
excited about what you're about to do on stage. Liamb's
always tells me that the good thing about feeling butterflies
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and feeling nervous as he goes anyone that cares about
anything always feels those kind of feelings, but also helps
you remember you're alive. And then that would scare me,
because if you're alive the opposite. It made me feel
like my heart was gonna stop and I was gonna
black out. And we're alive. You can faint. You can't
faint if you're dead. So I was like, okay, I'm alive,
so that means I can faint. And my biggest fear
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was fainting. I don't know what that was like, your
head would black count and I just passed out. It
almost happened when I was singing with Dolly. We were
doing Joe Lene at the Voice, and I felt like
I was going to faint who but then but then
I knew that she was there, and it made me
feel so much better because she was there and I
would have maybe like fallen back on our boobs and
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had to cushion, and not myself. I knew I was
there with family, so it made me feel weighted, and
so actually would know is that shows that helps me
a lot. When my dad's there helps me a lot,
helps me a lot. My mom is there, but my
mom now has got her own show, So now my
mom is like gone all the time and not all
my show. She's fabulous. I don't tell her that you
love her, because she's gonna be like, give me the
dimensions of your place. I'll redo your entire house. We
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ran into somebody the other day. We were in like
a home depot and someone came up to my mom,
ignored me and told me how much they loved her show.
And my mom was like, well, what are you here
looking for? Let me show you. Oh my god, I
just saw the most gorgeous towel and like, I'm like, Mom,
we've got to go. She's like, they have got these
door knobs that are just fabulous and like being insane.
So people really really love her show, and I love
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that for her, because she's always been behind the camera
for me too, and now like getting to support her
and she's doing her completely own thing. How she's always
done all my own room. How much of your have
you gotten to hang out with my mom? You want
to wreak out? I am my mother, Yes, but you're
acknowledging it's bad. Okay. So when I say, like, just
a second ago, I was telling you, when you're like,
do you feel this? You feel that, I said, I'm
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kind of both. This is what my mom does. I
had to tell this story. This is ridiculous. But my
mom got these new faucets in her house that she's redoing,
and they're not really silver and they're not really gold.
They're kind of both, which is what I say about
myself about everything. So now I feel like I can't
say that I'm both about anything because I'm being my mom.
And then last night when I was on Jimmy Fallon,
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I was doing the dance when I was doing the
Jolene Subway, and apparently I looked just like my mother.
And this is something that when you're younger it's harder
to hear. Now I'm more down with it until I
watched the voice back, and I look like my mom
at like an eighties rock concert anytime anyone of my
kids are up on stage, I have become my mother.
I won't tell her, but she knows. She text me
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last night about Jimmy Fallon and said, oh my god,
you were so good. You look so pretty. You are me.
I'm like, but I won't tell her, but question, it's
kind of an honor to be a little bit like
your mom. I'm super down better than my dad. I'm
just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I And
actually when she said last night, she said, you are me,
and I actually said I am. You and dad because
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they love each other so much, so I feel like,
hopefully of some way, I'm radiating their love. And my
dad is like so deep and so about music. He's
the reason why I started Happy Hippie because he has
always made charity the number one priority in our lives.
And then my mom, when I say I want to
start a foundation, she's the first one to make it happen.
That's cool. Yeah, my dad's the dreamer and my mom
is the doer. So if and when you become a mom,
do you think you'll be the same kind of mom.
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I hope that I could be with my mom is
because my mom is my best friend. But she's my
mom and that's what I love and where I just
respect your a lot. Don't tell her that either, because
I have been horrible to her as a child. I
was a nightmare. I was a nightmare. What do you mean? Okay, So,
like here's for example, So one time I really wanted
to go to waffle House. When I was a kid.
It's the best. So I want to go to waffle House.
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But I was still going to fit um golden. But
now I can't get waffle House that much because they
got mostly like pork belly, which I'm not really is
into um and like bacon and ship. Excuse there's not
many vegans at waffle House. But anyway, I wanted to
go to waffle Hospital exactly. I want to go to
waffle House. I was being a brat about wanting to go,
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and so my mom locked me in the car and
went and ate waffle House sitting in front of the window,
so I would have to watch her eat waffle House
to teach me. Like it was a big stupid lesson.
So then I was like Hey, I'm gonna break my
mom's rearview mirror to make her know that I'm really pissed.
But I decided to do it with my forehead. So
I like bashed my head mirror in front of a
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waffle house that proved to my mom. And then she
looks out and I'm bleeding and I've smashed my forehead
and I've had a complete meltdown. And this was all
over waffle House. This is the sad story to this,
the little things. This is just how bad I wanted
a down Waffall. Did you ever have the conversation with
your mom years later? You remember that day at waffle House?
Got Alexis and this is a really big damn my mom.
I just got her new Lexus and I like went
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out and put like my little pony stickers all over her.
Alexis was like obviously all that, so she made me
stand onside of the house with w D forty for
like four hours and get every single sticker. I don't
think you were any worse to your mom than most
other kids wrote to their moms. I mean, I never
really tell you the surface. I'm not telling you the
dark ship. You scarred for a lot my mom. Okay,
do you meditate? Yeah? I mean I seem like I've
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meditated or I assumed you did. I mean, I guess
I did that stereotyping. Well, she's a vegan, so you know,
you know, I can sit in lotus like a motherfucker.
I mean, when you're on the road, I mean, do
you have to find your private time just to like
it's kind of weird, Like I don't know. Most people
I hear to you when they're on the road, they
have a really hard time sleeping. I could sleep standing up.
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I don't want to get too deep or anything, but
I do have to answer a question on your behalf
that I want to ask. Are you happy now? You happy?
Hippie all? You sound like you're really happy and you're
cool with with you and everything going on. I'm happy
to see you, and I'm happy to be here, and
I'm happy to talk about my music, and I'm happy
with everything going on. I'm like, I feel like this
is what Mark and I want right now. When I
saw you perform a couple of months ago at a
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big fundraiser here in New York City, you blew everyone
away because I don't think anyone had seen you perform
in a long time. This is not to insult you
or anything, but no, no, no, no, but you you
were different than last time we saw you perform. You
were so relaxed, didn't seem like you were trying to
do anything outrageous overly fun, even though I'm sure you
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still have a big old ball of fund in you somewhere.
You weren't swinging around on a wrecking ball. You just
got up there and you gave us pure you. And
this song you sang to this huge multi billionaire crowd
raising money for New York City, and you just seem
so relaxed and so plugged into what you were doing. Yeah,
I really wanted to do that with that night in particular.
Everything that I do right now is I feel like
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people can really kind of see the truth of what's
going on. When I saw you at your studio, and
remember I was in the dress that I had gotten
in Malibu and the hat and whatever. And now today
I want to wear a bow, and then maybe tomorrow
I might want to wear something else, because I think
a lot of people when they see me and they
say I feel grounded or calm, sometimes they just also
look on the outside or what I'm not doing, and
they don't actually think too of like the music I
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think represents that so much stronger than anything else, And
I hope Malibu and Inspired is representing that, and that
night i'd talking about a revolution. I think even that
song could represent where I am right now too, because
I think a lot of the time for me, people
can be so like visual because I'm such a visual
person of like sliding down a tongue or whatever it is,
and they forget sometimes too to be able to listen
to my lyrics and really see where I am too.
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So I've tried to find that line, and Dolly's found
such a great boundary with that too. That's the best
I just showed last night. I told anyone that doesn't
like Dolly Parton, they're weird. If I say you're weird,
you're really me stuff. But I think she's found a
great line of being able to be a performer entertainer,
have some sort of kitch to her of fun and
create a character, but still like you feel like you
know her, You feel like you get a really hear
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who she is in her lyrics, and like be personable
rather than creating a character. That you never feel like
you could know. I'm going back to Wrecking Ball. I'm
not going back to Hannah Montana, but wrecking Ball time
to now, every time you performed, were you being honest
about who you were at that moment. So when you're
naked on a wrecking ball, I'm gonna be naked on
a wrecking ball to because that not did a lot
more uncomfortable than people give me how racy it is.
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They don't talk about how like brave. I mean, you
don't understand you wanted to show people how break. I
also want the show. I don't know what the hell
I was doing, Okay, but the night you performed Revolution
and you know, you did this incredible show for us
at this benefit here in New York City, I could
have been sitting there with my eyes closed and I
could visualize how honest you were being with the audience,
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and you were being real you. So going from Wrecking
Ball to now, we must assume this is how your
life has My life is always like that. I mean
right now, I've just been a lot of time in
Nashville and I've been missing home a lot. So the
way that I work as I put out a song
called Malibu, and then I moved back to Nashville. Is
just the way that I am. I do a Wrecking
Ball song and then I go and sing a Tracy
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Chapman song, and then I moved to Malibu and I
put out a song about how much I love it,
and then I move. So that's just the way that
I am. But I didn't move yet. I'm thinking about it.
But you seem very honest and everything you're doing. My
next song called Tennessee will be coming out next summer. Okay, yeah,
then yeah, exactly, I'm gonna come out with like, yeah,
I don't know, the Bahamas or something. You look at
your journey Minley from the Wrecking Ball, Let's do it
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to now? Yeah. I mean we can sit here in
form opinion about where you were and what you were
doing versus now, But what's your opinion of your work
and where you are on your journey? Every time, you
feel like you're a different version of yourself, but that
same person is inside. What I love about being a kid.
I got to go play baseball with my brothers and
then I go take ballet with my sister. I could
be those two people whenever I want, and as a kid,
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were always allowed to do that. And as we get older,
people say that if you change from day to day,
or if you change from a year to next year,
that you don't know who you are, that you're lost.
And I think that means that you're found if you
say that, hey, today I may be this way, I
may wear this like stupid bow in my hair, and
tomorrow I may not. I don't like to label anything.
I don't like to label people's gender. I don't like
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to label people's sexuality. I don't like to label people.
So I don't think you should do that with anything
that you make. If it comes to art, that's the
worst way to stay creative is to give yourself a
box or say that this is what I want to
try to be, or try to be the person I
was two years ago, or try to figure out who
I'm gonna be ten years from now. Just enjoy the
moment and be who you want to be right then,
and don't think about yesterday's and don't think about tomorrow.
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You've gotta be present right now. This was a great time.
Miley starrus. Of course Malibu is available now and the
album is gonna be out, but not soon enough, in
my opinion. Thank you thanks to our friends at Zico
Coconut Water for supporting this amazing new fund podcast. If
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mine to sit down with artists and rather talk about
the stuff we read about them in the tabloids and
all the rumors that are out there. I want to
talk to them about what they're passionate about. What do
they want to talk about, because that's how we truly
you're at what makes an artist tick? What makes them real.
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And I can't think of a better person who's more
real and true to themselves and follows our own heart
and voice more than the unforgettable Miley Cyrus. So thank
you for doing this. Thank you, by the way, And
they told me the name of this thing was labeled
to fires. I'm like, well, how do I live up
to the title. So I guess people put a label
on you because of what they read or what they assume.
I want you to defy it. You know, if I
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ask you any question that seems to be going down
a road that you just know that's not true, just
call it out. Okay, cool? I like that idea, all right.
So Malibu, of course, is the first single from this
album that's supposed to come out sometime this year yep,
later this year, which I still I can't figure out
exactly a date because there's so many different things going on.
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Even with the voice now, you know, you are so
so vocal in your desire to help people, to make
sure people who don't have a voice have a voice.
So you're talking about your organization also going out to
pride festivities across the country. Why don't you just record
your song and go home. Why do you think you
really need to be out there helping people? Because I
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also really think that for me when I get to perform,
when I get to go to somewhere like Pride or
last night, I played like a pretty intimate show for
just a hundred fans or something last night, and human
contact is a nice thing. You know, people forget how
important it is to like communicate with people. I think
if people spent less times, you know, of all of
us staring on our cell phones are thinking about being
a survival mode and thinking about ourselves, and actually, if
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you can like communicate and kind of connect with people,
I think that's what keeps me going to write more
music because I actually want to connect with people. It
was really a great time to play Inspired in Manchester
because you actually got to see the way your song
is gonna affect people and the way that they can
heal people and use music for its full potential instead
of just to have something played on the radio. But Miley,
when you do a show like the Manchester concert, do
you walk off stage and have like do you feel drained?
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You know? Sometimes like I think touring also can be
really draining because it's something that's every night, and you're
giving so much and you don't always have those moments
to replenish. I guess yourself because you're doing something every day.
For me. After Manchester, I went straight back home to
Nashville and was with my family. How proud my dad
was of me, my mom and you know, of course
for them even it was kind of torn for them
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as like parents to know that during this time of
where I went to travel and went straight to Manchester
and there was some attacks in London earlier that day,
and just knowing that it's more important for me than
to think of my own comfort and to put myself
out there and to be brave and go and do
that show was something that my parents are really proud of,
and so it definitely makes it worth it. But I
think I kind of go and take that time to
be with my family, which is always fills me back
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up again if I'm failing, kind of like I've given
a lot. Do you consider yourself an introvert or an extrovert?
Does your battery charge up when you're alone or when
you're with other people? As I am with everything, it's
a little bit of both. There's times where I really
want to have like alone time even now, like just
being on this tour not having my seven dogs has
been really hard because that's kind of my big charge
up because I'm never alone because I have seven dogs,
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two pigs, the three cats. So when I reach art
is like alone, but also with the animals. I really
am like so lucky that we have animals to be
like our therapy. The thing about them is they don't
know who I am. They have no idea that I'm
out here promoting my music. They don't know like who
their mommy is. So I know that they just really
love me for me and let me be with them
and cuddle them. There's not many people in the world
that give me that freedom. They don't care if you
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stink um. I always think you don't care if I
think you're sitting pretty close, you smell okay, today you
didn't see You wouldn't touch my feet, which kind of hurt.
You don't need to like lick them. I just wanted
to rub them, yea. So the theme with you typically
is family and hearing you talk about doing something like
a Manchester concert and then having home to go to
I mean home. Of course, it's more than just a
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house and a bunch of acreage. It's this warm, pulsating
place where your family is hanging out in Mom's food
is like in the kitchen. Yeah, my mom's microwavable oatmeal.
That's pretty much it. She's gonna kill me, but that
is she's made two things, my whole life oatmeal and
bake z d. The Postmates was invented for the cyrus fact,
because that's pretty much what happens. Take out happens a lot.
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My grandma my actually both my grandma's and they always
make on Thanksgiving two separate dinners because they both think
that their recipes are the best. So my mom's mom
and my dad's mom both have the best stepping, so
they make both and then they fight the whole time
about why one is better than the other. And then
sometimes we'll switch them around on you so you don't
know who's is who's so you can like really make
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a huge mistake by saying, oh, this one is really
really good. I love the stepping, because then you might
say it's mammals and not mammy's, and then you've got
like Mammy on your case. So my grandma's are really
the ones that it sounds like a weird psychological food fight.
I know, you don't understand. My Grandma's could not be
more opposite. My dad and mom. They're kind of opposite
in their own way too, So Thanksgiving it always ends
in a fist fight. We've never had one holiday where
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we don't end up someone bleeding. That's the way it's
supposed to be, exactly, That's what holidays are all about.
So going home to the family, it's obvious. I mean,
we must assume that the family unit is just your energy,
that's your battery. I mean, you always know home is
there for you, no matter how good or a bad
a day you have. Yeah, for sure, especially even with
like OA now being on the road, she really understands
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more than ever kind of how I feel and how
drinking it is, because I think even my brothers and
sisters they always kind of felt like I went on
stage in my life. Was just like, she kind of
understands how hard it is now because my dad always
really understood, so he was the one that I could
always bent to, and my mom traveled with me on
the road a lot, so she knew how much I
was always going through. And but my brothers and sisters.
What I love about them too is know us. She's
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a horseback rider, so her priorities are always her horses.
And my brother, he's an artist, so doing his art,
taking his photos, directing, whatever it is. Now having someone
that really understands how hard it can be when you're
away from home for a month, Me and my little
sister have a new bond over that. I think so
now that she tells me more, now that she knows
that I actually do something. She always thought I did
nothing and that I just went and put two wigs on.
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She was like, what did you warn her? Did you
say I'm telling you right now, No, tell me that
this is really happening all of a sudden, which I
think she just wanted to really do it on her own.
So I'm really proud of her that she did, because
I think she didn't really involve me as much, because
she definitely keeps me involved more now, but I think
she just wanted to get on her own two feet
without this having to do anything with me. Right? Would
you try to protect her or you just say, hey,
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she's got a figure it out on her own. I
do I always, I really hope other people because when
you're in this industry. Adults treat kids like adults, you know,
And I just think the way that people judge too,
or when people would write articles on me when like
I was a kid going through all the times of
having crazy breakouts or like going through breakups or whatever
I was going through, people would treat me like I
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could handle these comments like I was an adult, like
I had this thick skin. And I think too, it
makes you get jaded and makes your garden and I
don't ever want her to get like that well. And
also it changes who you are or your style or
the way that you think because you want to please people.
So I really hope that she never feels those pressures,
and then I hope other people respect her and don't
actually try to make her something she's not because she
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has the best style. She's been my style like cons
and she was like six. She posted a photo of
the other day of her at five years old, six
years old with pink hair. Noah's always been punk rock.
Noah is my punk rock icon. There's some photos you
google young Noah, you will see why she is so
much cooler than me. Do you find that with social
media being I guess it's an important link with your fans.
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I mean, how much do you depend on it? I
think it's the best, and I think it's also great
for new artists. I have people ask me all the
time like how would you suggest to get started? Like
how if I want to be a musician, what would
I do? And I think the platform that we have
as young people is amazing because now we get to
use like social media, which someone like my dad, he
loves now if he wants to make a song, he
doesn't have to make an entire record anymore. He wrote
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a song for the Stanley Cup which Predators Be Lost.
But he was very excited about that, and he just
wrote a song about it and just put it on
Instagram or put it on YouTube. And so for people
to have that kind of place where you can just
get your music out there to millions of people like
whenever you want, is very very cool. So what's your
advice for people who are sifting through the negative bs
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that's out there aimed toward the middle. I don't know.
I'll keep your comments turned off. I love that Instagram
has that as a feature. Never read anything that anyone
says about you, so it obviously you couldn't turn it off.
And actually I was a part of that with Instagram.
I went to the head tip top of Instagram and
said that I couldn't be on the platform anymore if
they didn't start making it a place that artists really
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can express themselves and not be completely verbally abused. When
you do so, it's almost like you need to hire
an editor to edite go through it. It feels really
go when you read and say, we love this song
so much whatever, but it's not worth all the things
that can maybe stick with you. People too can become
very cowardly, and they can be very opinionated, like anonymously
instead of actually they saw you. They probably asked you
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for a selfie. But at the end of the day,
it is all positive, warm love when you're lucky. Yeah. Yeah,
I've kind of shut that down in a way too,
because I don't think people by attacking me get the
thrill that they want. I would lie if I said, okay,
nothing ever affects me. But I've been doing this now
for so long, and I've been doing in a different
generation than a lot of people have experience. Like from
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the time I really started being like in this industry,
As an entertainer, I've always been around like social and
feedback people having this outlet where they can just completely
word vomit what they think about you. Yeah, all right,
I gotta take a refreshment break. We created this game
with Zico. It's called the What's Inside Game? So what
I'll do. I'll give you rapid fire questions and you
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just say the first thing that pops into your head.
Let's play the game. You're ready, Let's go. I think fast.
The last thing you googled you don't want to know?
Why not? You don't want it? Like filthy dirty? Probably
the last thing you ate guacamole. I smell like it now.
I just want a huge junk of it out of
my teeth before I game. There. Favorite person to follow
the social media and why anyone entertaining you that you
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I mostly follow a lot of puppy sites, like I
followed Doug the Pug and he's really cute. Okay cool?
Your favorite thing to cook? If you do, I pretend
I'm a really good cook like I do, like stir
fries because you kind of can't mess it up because
he just he's like frozen everything and then microwaves some
rice and call it a day. When's the last thing
you ate meat three years ago? Your favorite morning ritual.
If you don't do it, you feel like you're not
in your day yoga, And I didn't do it today.
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That's why I'm evil, even insane. I thought you had
a Yeah, I don't feel right. Who's your go to
person for advice? My mom? Who's your role model? My mom?
What are you most proud of? Happy? Yeah? The best
advice you ever received? My dad A trying time is
no time to quit trying, he said, he wrote it.
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And then I drove by a church and saw on
the sign and realized that my dad lied about something else. Well,
maybe the church ripped off your day. So after he dies,
I feed my finger across because he lied about a church.
That's worse than anything I've done. The naked a lot,
But my dad lies about church. The one thing you
cannot live without period. My puppies. Okay, if you're an
idle mode, what do you think about the most? What
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do I think about them all? What do you just
think about? Carely? Cats? That was the first thing I
said to you today. I mentioned about cats. But you
have puppies. Puppies, I can't live without because I love
my puppies. Like I don't love him more than my cats,
but like my puppies have been there for me in
partner times. My cat jumped on my face. I posted
a photo I'll show on my Instagram and like actually
sat on top of my head, just attacking my head
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because it got scared of my dog. And it went
on the very top of a shelf and jumped on
my head and attacked me. Supposed to do that. I
just don't like how cats turn. Cats want you to.
I think about them a lot and think about how
they should be less lion ass on days when it
does matter or moments when it doesn't matter. What do
you want people to think about you? I want people
to think about what I do with Happy Hippie. I
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want people to think about what I say in my music.
I want people to think about songs like Inspired. I
want people to think about how I write my lyrics
and really let people into my life and encourage, you know,
people to be themselves. And when people tell you how
moved they are baring music and it actually changes their life,
it's the best thing ever in the entire world. I
saw a bunch of young kids last night outside of
a show that I was doing, those young gay boys.
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The fact that I started Happy Hippie, each person feels
like I started it just for them and in their
own way, they've had their own story about its change
their life. And that's the best thing that I could
ask for, because I know how it feels like to
feel like you don't fit in and to make them
feel like they belong and that can be the Happy
Hippie family. That's like the ratted stuff. Do you feel
like you finally fit in? No, I'm a freak. No,
and I love it and I'm proud to be a freak. Yeah,
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I'll never fit in. Excellent. Why would you want to
never fit in? Stand out? Always? I agree? Just three
words to describe yourself, happy hippy because all I do
is promote my foundation and free. Those are great words.
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With every answer you give for every question I asked,
the answer is ready to go. You seem totally I
just know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what you're saying,
But I don't got to think of what I say
in the last thing so I can make sure I'm
not lying. My point is, you've got this confidence going.
But you have said in past interviews with me anyway,
that right before you go on stage to perform, Yeah,
I've gotten better. I've got to see you in Miami,
and I've gotten better not being so nervous like I'm
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gonna throw up, because you don't seem like you're nervous
when you're up there. You don't look like you're about
to vomit. It's gotten better. I always feel like I'm
about to vomit. But it's gotten a lot lot better.
And I think gets because I got off the horse.
I like sat in my voice Share where I watched
everyone else performed. I wasn't performing for I guess a
year or two that I wasn't on tour and I
don't know what happened to me where I just felt like,
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I don't know, I've never had that in my life.
I was telling you where I've ever gotten as nervous
as I was just a few months ago. And I
think the response with my fans, seeing like how open
they are with my new music and watching them seeing
back as refueled my confidence. You've a an anxiety attack.
This takes over and you know, like, I don't know
why I feel like I'm just going to pass out
and black out. I would just feel that and it
would be a full on anxiety attack. But then I
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realized that my biggest enemy wasn't anyone in the audience,
wasn't anyone behind the camera. It was my brain, myself.
Do you think to improve something to everyone? I've good
and I didn't even know. You know, the worst thing
about anxiety is you're freaking out about the anxiety, which
isn't real. And when I think people also don't understand,
is that anxiety kind of is actually real. It's not
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to say your feelings are not valid. For me, I
had to go back to what yoga is all about,
which is extilling the mind, feeling myself be grounded, feeling
the weight in my feet again. That helped me a lot.
Actually was like feeling my hands we really weighted in,
feeling my feet be really grounded on the floor instead
of you know, when you're having anxiety, all your nerves
are up here and you just feel like you can't
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find yourself again and feel the weight. And I think
my fans really helped me do that of like just
get back into the groove of what it feels like
to be on stage. There's such a thin line. I
think we've talked about this between anxiety and excitement and
some butterflies. You never know to be able to understand
those butterflies you haven't your stomach actually means you're really
excited about what you're about to do on stage. Liamb's
always tells me that the good thing about feeling butterflies
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and feeling nervous as he goes anyone that cares about
anything always feels those kind of feelings, but also helps
you remember you're alive. And then that would scare me,
because if you're alive the opposite. It made me feel
like my heart was gonna stop and I was gonna
black out. And we're alive. You can faint. You can't
faint if you're dead. So I was like, okay, I'm alive,
so that means I can faint. And my biggest fear
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was fainting. I don't know what that was like, your
head would black count and I just passed out. It
almost happened when I was singing with Dolly. We were
doing Joe Lene at the Voice, and I felt like
I was going to faint who but then but then
I knew that she was there, and it made me
feel so much better because she was there and I
would have maybe like fallen back on our boobs and
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had to cushion, and not myself. I knew I was
there with family, so it made me feel weighted, and
so actually would know is that shows that helps me
a lot. When my dad's there helps me a lot,
helps me a lot. My mom is there, but my
mom now has got her own show, So now my
mom is like gone all the time and not all
my show. She's fabulous. I don't tell her that you
love her, because she's gonna be like, give me the
dimensions of your place. I'll redo your entire house. We
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ran into somebody the other day. We were in like
a home depot and someone came up to my mom,
ignored me and told me how much they loved her show.
And my mom was like, well, what are you here
looking for? Let me show you. Oh my god, I
just saw the most gorgeous towel and like, I'm like, Mom,
we've got to go. She's like, they have got these
door knobs that are just fabulous and like being insane.
So people really really love her show, and I love
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that for her, because she's always been behind the camera
for me too, and now like getting to support her
and she's doing her completely own thing. How she's always
done all my own room. How much of your have
you gotten to hang out with my mom? You want
to wreak out? I am my mother, Yes, but you're
acknowledging it's bad. Okay. So when I say, like, just
a second ago, I was telling you, when you're like,
do you feel this? You feel that, I said, I'm
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kind of both. This is what my mom does. I
had to tell this story. This is ridiculous. But my
mom got these new faucets in her house that she's redoing,
and they're not really silver and they're not really gold.
They're kind of both, which is what I say about
myself about everything. So now I feel like I can't
say that I'm both about anything because I'm being my mom.
And then last night when I was on Jimmy Fallon,
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I was doing the dance when I was doing the
Jolene Subway, and apparently I looked just like my mother.
And this is something that when you're younger it's harder
to hear. Now I'm more down with it until I
watched the voice back, and I look like my mom
at like an eighties rock concert anytime anyone of my
kids are up on stage, I have become my mother.
I won't tell her, but she knows. She text me
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last night about Jimmy Fallon and said, oh my god,
you were so good. You look so pretty. You are me.
I'm like, but I won't tell her, but question, it's
kind of an honor to be a little bit like
your mom. I'm super down better than my dad. I'm
just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I And
actually when she said last night, she said, you are me,
and I actually said I am. You and dad because
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they love each other so much, so I feel like,
hopefully of some way, I'm radiating their love. And my
dad is like so deep and so about music. He's
the reason why I started Happy Hippie because he has
always made charity the number one priority in our lives.
And then my mom, when I say I want to
start a foundation, she's the first one to make it happen.
That's cool. Yeah, my dad's the dreamer and my mom
is the doer. So if and when you become a mom,
do you think you'll be the same kind of mom.
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I hope that I could be with my mom is
because my mom is my best friend. But she's my
mom and that's what I love and where I just
respect your a lot. Don't tell her that either, because
I have been horrible to her as a child. I
was a nightmare. I was a nightmare. What do you mean? Okay, So,
like here's for example, So one time I really wanted
to go to waffle House. When I was a kid.
It's the best. So I want to go to waffle House.
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But I was still going to fit um golden. But
now I can't get waffle House that much because they
got mostly like pork belly, which I'm not really is
into um and like bacon and ship. Excuse there's not
many vegans at waffle House. But anyway, I wanted to
go to waffle Hospital exactly. I want to go to
waffle House. I was being a brat about wanting to go,
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and so my mom locked me in the car and
went and ate waffle House sitting in front of the window,
so I would have to watch her eat waffle House
to teach me. Like it was a big stupid lesson.
So then I was like Hey, I'm gonna break my
mom's rearview mirror to make her know that I'm really pissed.
But I decided to do it with my forehead. So
I like bashed my head mirror in front of a
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waffle house that proved to my mom. And then she
looks out and I'm bleeding and I've smashed my forehead
and I've had a complete meltdown. And this was all
over waffle House. This is the sad story to this,
the little things. This is just how bad I wanted
a down Waffall. Did you ever have the conversation with
your mom years later? You remember that day at waffle House?
Got Alexis and this is a really big damn my mom.
I just got her new Lexus and I like went
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out and put like my little pony stickers all over her.
Alexis was like obviously all that, so she made me
stand onside of the house with w D forty for
like four hours and get every single sticker. I don't
think you were any worse to your mom than most
other kids wrote to their moms. I mean, I never
really tell you the surface. I'm not telling you the
dark ship. You scarred for a lot my mom. Okay,
do you meditate? Yeah? I mean I seem like I've
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meditated or I assumed you did. I mean, I guess
I did that stereotyping. Well, she's a vegan, so you know,
you know, I can sit in lotus like a motherfucker.
I mean, when you're on the road, I mean, do
you have to find your private time just to like
it's kind of weird, Like I don't know. Most people
I hear to you when they're on the road, they
have a really hard time sleeping. I could sleep standing up.
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I don't want to get too deep or anything, but
I do have to answer a question on your behalf
that I want to ask. Are you happy now? You happy?
Hippie all? You sound like you're really happy and you're
cool with with you and everything going on. I'm happy
to see you, and I'm happy to be here, and
I'm happy to talk about my music, and I'm happy
with everything going on. I'm like, I feel like this
is what Mark and I want right now. When I
saw you perform a couple of months ago at a
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big fundraiser here in New York City, you blew everyone
away because I don't think anyone had seen you perform
in a long time. This is not to insult you
or anything, but no, no, no, no, but you you
were different than last time we saw you perform. You
were so relaxed, didn't seem like you were trying to
do anything outrageous overly fun, even though I'm sure you
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still have a big old ball of fund in you somewhere.
You weren't swinging around on a wrecking ball. You just
got up there and you gave us pure you. And
this song you sang to this huge multi billionaire crowd
raising money for New York City, and you just seem
so relaxed and so plugged into what you were doing. Yeah,
I really wanted to do that with that night in particular.
Everything that I do right now is I feel like
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people can really kind of see the truth of what's
going on. When I saw you at your studio, and
remember I was in the dress that I had gotten
in Malibu and the hat and whatever. And now today
I want to wear a bow, and then maybe tomorrow
I might want to wear something else, because I think
a lot of people when they see me and they
say I feel grounded or calm, sometimes they just also
look on the outside or what I'm not doing, and
they don't actually think too of like the music I
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think represents that so much stronger than anything else, And
I hope Malibu and Inspired is representing that, and that
night i'd talking about a revolution. I think even that
song could represent where I am right now too, because
I think a lot of the time for me, people
can be so like visual because I'm such a visual
person of like sliding down a tongue or whatever it is,
and they forget sometimes too to be able to listen
to my lyrics and really see where I am too.
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So I've tried to find that line, and Dolly's found
such a great boundary with that too. That's the best
I just showed last night. I told anyone that doesn't
like Dolly Parton, they're weird. If I say you're weird,
you're really me stuff. But I think she's found a
great line of being able to be a performer entertainer,
have some sort of kitch to her of fun and
create a character, but still like you feel like you
know her, You feel like you get a really hear
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who she is in her lyrics, and like be personable
rather than creating a character. That you never feel like
you could know. I'm going back to Wrecking Ball. I'm
not going back to Hannah Montana, but wrecking Ball time
to now, every time you performed, were you being honest
about who you were at that moment. So when you're
naked on a wrecking ball, I'm gonna be naked on
a wrecking ball to because that not did a lot
more uncomfortable than people give me how racy it is.
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They don't talk about how like brave. I mean, you
don't understand you wanted to show people how break. I
also want the show. I don't know what the hell
I was doing, Okay, but the night you performed Revolution
and you know, you did this incredible show for us
at this benefit here in New York City, I could
have been sitting there with my eyes closed and I
could visualize how honest you were being with the audience,
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and you were being real you. So going from Wrecking
Ball to now, we must assume this is how your
life has My life is always like that. I mean
right now, I've just been a lot of time in
Nashville and I've been missing home a lot. So the
way that I work as I put out a song
called Malibu, and then I moved back to Nashville. Is
just the way that I am. I do a Wrecking
Ball song and then I go and sing a Tracy
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Chapman song, and then I moved to Malibu and I
put out a song about how much I love it,
and then I move. So that's just the way that
I am. But I didn't move yet. I'm thinking about it.
But you seem very honest and everything you're doing. My
next song called Tennessee will be coming out next summer. Okay, yeah,
then yeah, exactly, I'm gonna come out with like, yeah,
I don't know, the Bahamas or something. You look at
your journey Minley from the Wrecking Ball, Let's do it
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to now? Yeah. I mean we can sit here in
form opinion about where you were and what you were
doing versus now, But what's your opinion of your work
and where you are on your journey? Every time, you
feel like you're a different version of yourself, but that
same person is inside. What I love about being a kid.
I got to go play baseball with my brothers and
then I go take ballet with my sister. I could
be those two people whenever I want, and as a kid,
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were always allowed to do that. And as we get older,
people say that if you change from day to day,
or if you change from a year to next year,
that you don't know who you are, that you're lost.
And I think that means that you're found if you
say that, hey, today I may be this way, I
may wear this like stupid bow in my hair, and
tomorrow I may not. I don't like to label anything.
I don't like to label people's gender. I don't like
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to label people's sexuality. I don't like to label people.
So I don't think you should do that with anything
that you make. If it comes to art, that's the
worst way to stay creative is to give yourself a
box or say that this is what I want to
try to be, or try to be the person I
was two years ago, or try to figure out who
I'm gonna be ten years from now. Just enjoy the
moment and be who you want to be right then,
and don't think about yesterday's and don't think about tomorrow.
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You've gotta be present right now. This was a great time.
Miley starrus. Of course Malibu is available now and the
album is gonna be out, but not soon enough, in
my opinion. Thank you thanks to our friends at Zico
Coconut Water for supporting this amazing new fund podcast. If
you haven't tried Zico yet, grab one today. If you
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