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Arden and Julie Anne are joined by iconic actor and comedian Retta, star of Good Girls, Parks and Recreation, Girlfriends Guide To Divorce, and more. Retta talks to the ladies about combating stage fright, trusting your own path, and what it is like to have your own catchphrase!!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Um, Hello, that's no need stress, She's taking She's lad.

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Lady of the Road.
My name is Arte Marine. You might know me from Netflix.
Is Insatiable or Shameless or Chelsea Lately, or is the
author of the book Little Miss Little Compton available worldwide.
With me today in her Adorable Basement is my friend
Judy Anne Robinson. Yeah that sounded insane. Can I say

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it again? Yeah? I just wasn't expecting it. Okay, ready.
Also with me today from her basement is my friend
Julie and Robinson about it? That's that was you know that? Okay? Great? Well, yeah,
we're gonna put a pin on you and we'll be
in touch. How are you to day, Julian? You have

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a nice sweater on? Oh thank you? Note a wrap.
It's a nice rap. You've got a nice ractual rap
that I will on the set of Brita. I was
directing it. So you're gonna say that that wrap has
been Duke adjacent? Does It's been very much Duke and Jason. Okay, well,
I'm just gonna go out and limb and say that
is my new favorite rap. We also have our producer,

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Anna is hiding lurking in the shadows with a key
chain of our upcoming with the key chain of the
face of our upcoming guest, which sounds a little bit
like maybe she should go to prison. And of course,
the ever patient tech Wizard with us Zack Hi, zach Hi. Ladies,
are we the podcast that's going to break you? Um?

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All right, Anna, we're gonna come. We're gonna throw to
you later on with your key chain. I'm gonna guess
you're probably not the first person to present a key
chain with the face of our guests to our guests,
because I guess, based on who she is, she probably
gets this a lot. We are so excited to have
this woman with us, to come to us on a Saturday,

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given us her time. She is a busy lady. Here's
what's fascinating her. She claims that she's lazy. Let's find out.
She is an actor. You know her from Parks and Wreck,
you know her from Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce. She can
currently be seen on a Netflix hit Good Girls. She
is a stand up comedian who has won numerous awards

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and toward the country in the World. She is the
author of the book So Close To Being the ship.
Y'all don't even know. She is really good on the
dance floor. She's an amazing singer. She has a catchphrase,
excuse me, treat yourself. And she is worked with my
co host Julianne, who's so excited to have her. We
just of her, We're obsessed with her. Please welcome to

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the podcast, Miss Htta Rhetta. This is what I want
to say. I read your book. It's a great read,
so good. We're going to talk about it more later on,
but I do want to say this, how can you
describe yourself as lazy? That's insane. I would say I

(03:25):
have stood in the middle of a muddy graveyard with
you at three am in the morning in Georgia and
you belted out, what was it? My name is Mary?
God Mary. I totally forgot about that again and again

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and again, and we were like fighting the light coming up,
and you never once complained. So anybody that will do
that cannot be described as lazy. We're here to do
an as your mention on your say you're not lazy,
read well when I you know, when I'm working like
I love to do my work, like I love acting.
And then I also tend to get. When I'm focused

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on doing something, I almost do too much. I'm lazy
with regard to things I know I need to do,
Like I put off stuff like I have a deadline.
I push and push and push and push until it's
the last minute and then so then I have to
work hard. But I'm like, I don't want to start it.

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So I'm that person. If you're a procrastinatory as opposed
to lazy, I guess to me, in my head, it's
lazy because it's like you could be doing something and
you're not doing it. But maybe that's just your Maybe
that's just your process. Like maybe for whatever reason, I
wish it wasn't. I understand. I get that, I I understand,
and I really related. I really related to the first

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story in your book of the Dread of Auditioning. Yeah,
she got an audition for dream Girls, And I very
much related to something that's almost so close to the
dream that you should be excited that it has come in,
and it's so over. It's almost like staring into a
light that's too bright and it's crippling. And I had
so much compassion for you. I understand that that you

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almost can't even take that first step that it's just
too much. I related to that. That's how I learned
about the fear of success. It never it never made
sense to me. I was like, that's the dumbest thing
I've ever heard, the fear of success until you're in
a position to start moving towards what you've wanted to
do forever and you're paralyzed, Like the fear is of

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not being good enough to succeed. So that I think
the phraseology is what I didn't understand. Do you feel
like that ever goes away? I do think slowly because
now I've kind of taken on in my head. You
know that, Nike, just do it? Like, I have the
memory of all the things that I did fear, and

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the memory of like fearing something and then knowing it
wasn't as bad that it as it was in my head.
So I like, I have to rely on that to
push myself forward. Be like, the bad thing didn't happen
in this case, The bad thing didn't happen in this case.
The bad thing didn't happen in this case. Let's assume
the bad thing is not going to happen in this case,
and so that helps me to do things that normally

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would be scary. Can I ask you so this is
somewhat selfishly self healthy for us? Yeah, I think we
present as brave, but I think very much relate to
what you're saying. So let's say you've got the equivalent
of if you could go back in time and you
had compassion for sweet Ritta who was just terrified, Like

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what would be the first action, like how would you
circumvent that fear of Like what baby step would you
tell her to take? Or like how to sort of
brace herself to feel the fear and just start prepping.
One of the things that helps me, I don't know
if this is what you mean, but one of the
things that helps me, Like I I fear auditions so
bad too. One of the things that helps me is

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knowing this, like they want you to do well right
that room. You always think that they're just like sitting
there like I don't care. And there are rooms where
you're like, yeah, there, do you want to be here?
But generally because they want to find the one, So
they want you to do well so they can go home,

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you know, and start the project. And I know that now,
but I didn't know that before. If this makes you
feel any better. One of my great sort of a shame,
and I have compassion for myself. Because Bill Condon directed
dream Girls, so I was in Kinsey. It was like
one of the biggest movie parts I've had. I played

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John Krasinski's wife. There was a movie premiere and I
was so nervous that I couldn't get out of the house.
I was so frightened to go to the red carpet
that I missed it. And I remember somebody saying to me,
like you dummy, like you you know, and it was
just like, I have so much compassion, you know, I
grew up in a tiny town in Rhode Island with

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no stop like like, I was just terrified and I
didn't know how to do it, and I felt not
quite good enough and I didn't feel quite glamorous enough,
and my outfit didn't feel right and I was afraid
and I couldn't. I missed it. I missed it. I
had that fear when I, you know, my first carpets
being plus sized. One of the big things was not

(08:27):
having access to, you know, what I thought was appropriate
red carpet clothing. And it wasn't even a real carpet
carpet because I actually wasn't a carpet. It was concrete.
But it was, you know, my first step in repeat. Yes,
it was for Parks. It was for a screaming of Parks,
and I wore my go to outfit on stage was

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this very oversized polo button down and white jeans. What
you looked adorable. I look back at those cheers and
I'm like, for me, that was. I wore anything that
was big enough to hide in, but as long as
it was dry cleaned, so it was neat. You know,
that was me looking good but being comfortable, especially because

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you know, performing on stage, you want to be comfortable.
Then I remember when Parks got nominated for an Emmy,
so excited, like, oh my god, the Emmys and he's
going to the Emmys. And then I was like, I
have to find something to wear, and I was sick
to my stomach thinking about it. I was googling plus
size dresses online like I was about to and I

(09:36):
was about to order from some one of those like
scam sites because I didn't know, and I had screenshot
all these pictures and I was like just about to
order it, and then there was a pr company that
repped a designer who lived he lived in Egypt, and
he you know, offered to make me address. So I
went on his website, picked the shape, and then I

(09:58):
went to there. They have a they had a place
at the Design Center, and I went through and I
saw dresses and I was like, okay, like that with
this and that, you know, picked different things to put together.
He made it. It was so big, and then we
brought it. They sent shipped it here and then I
went to a tailor to fix it. But I didn't
never in my wildest dreams that I think that somebody
who's gonna make me address. I thought I was going

(10:18):
to buy an online dress. And here's the thing. You
don't get those scam dresses where they're like this big
like that. I would have had nothing to wear. But
I was just like, I don't know if I'm gonna
be able to go because I don't have anything to wear.
It was like the worst, and then it was great.
Can I ask you, is this like historical feeling like

(10:41):
going back? Because I'm like really interested to talk about
Marietta Surley, how you pronounced yeah? Living in a two
bedroom apartment with six people in New Jersey. So in
terms of clothing and all of that, was that a
feeling that you had all the way back then or
you didn't you weren't aware of it. One. I didn't

(11:02):
really not that I shouldn't say. I didn't really care.
When I was younger, I was all about school and
playing with my friends, being with my friends. I didn't
really think about clothes for me, I guess until maybe
kind of like high school. But because you know, my

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parents didn't you know, they weren't wealthy, so it's I
never was going to get designer close. I never I
was going to get you know, what everyone was wearing.
You just try to get your version of it, so,
you know, I always had cheaper stuff, but I didn't
care about it so much. I was a cheerleader, so
there was a uniform so that, you know, so I

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didn't have to worry about what I had to wear
for that. And for the things that I did, I
didn't I never went to prom for dances. I remember
one of the big deals. I was going to a
dance when I was young. It might have been fifth grade,
and the dress that I got was from Kmart, and
I thought it was the most beautiful I just I

(12:03):
couldn't believe it. It It was all lace. I'm sure it
was like if you lit a match, it would have
gone up in moments. But to me, it was the
most beautiful, dainty, loveliest dress ever. So I didn't really
think about that because and I was small. I was
a kid, so even as a kid, even though I
wasn't as big as a kid as I am as

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an adult, but I also didn't care so much. My
mother handled that, so it wasn't something that was like
that stressed me out. I wasn't. I wasn't as a
materialistic as a kid as I am as an adult.
To be honest, do you remember when you were a
kid if you had like expectations placed on you by

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your family at all? I would say the only like one,
you know, be respectful of your elders and of my
parents obviously, and the other was too well in school,
do to do your school work. But I but I
loved school, so what it didn't feel like an expectation
like I was trying to exceed my parents expectations. I

(13:08):
was always trying to do better for myself. I didn't.
I didn't do my home, I didn't do my school
work for my parents. I didn't do anything for my parents,
so I never really felt any pressure other than just
you know, be a good girl. It says in your
book you went to Liberia at age seven. I went
when I was a baby, baby, like three months because

(13:28):
I got the months, and then I went again for
first grade. So whatever age that was, can you remember
anything about that, either the whole year. Was it a
whole year there or a trip? No, No, I went
to school. I was in first grade for at least
per half my school year. I remember like my aunt's

(13:49):
house that we stayed in in the courtyard. I kind
of remember this street where the guy pushing the and
they didn't have the s cream truck, but they had
the guy with the cart and he had like cold sugarcane,
so it was, you know, there was I'm sure there
was some candies and stuff, but I remember, you know,

(14:09):
the thing was to suck on cold sugarcane. I barely
remember the market and how busy it was, you know,
it seemed. And I remember the smells, like when they
were cooking outside and you could smell the burning wood.
Whenever I smell burning would it makes me think of
um Liberia. Did you feel kind of torn between cultures

(14:33):
when you were younger or was that it feels like
your parents were so supportive like that. You probably didn't
experience that. M hmm. I didn't know. It was just
my life and I grew up in the apartments that
we we lived. We had a lot of Hindus, we
had a lot of Koreans, and a lot of Jewish

(14:53):
people lived there. So my group, you know, my best
group friends were best Climbing, sung He Yang, Zarah, Jowanni
and so it was the four of us, and then
Evelina Kushner. So there was a lot as a Russian.
So there was a lot of different groups and we
all hung. I just told all their names, I know.

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But one of the things we used to make fun
of was the way we all got yelled at. My mother.
You know, mother had a Liberian accent, and my family
called me Nick. So when she called me in the
house Nick, and then sung He's mother called her son,
and Evelina's mother when she yelled for her like Lena
Lena um Zarah's mother would say za, and the best

(15:42):
mom would be like best, get your fucking ass in
the house. I just had a vision of that pasta
commercial from like the seven is like today. I was
one of the things Julianne and I were talking about
the floorhand how from your childhood that we both really

(16:03):
related to was we were both completely unsupervised and raised
by television. Does hear like every show you ticktok and
just watching really adult stuff. And you know, my mom
was a good mom and she I mean I could
watch anything I watched. I'm a night owl. I watched.
I wasn't allowed to watch everything. Benny Hill, that was

(16:26):
the one thing we would try to watch and so
we'd hear if we heard our parents footsteps, we try
to change the channel and back then that's what you
see the boot box and with the cable box. But
it would make a sound if you change the channel,
so we like pressed the button try to get switch
before they came into the room. I also remember seeing
Monty Python Meaning of Life. I think it was six

(16:47):
and which I should never remember, but like it was
just like boot it was. It was it was like
the epitome of Gigli. Yeah, which so many I thought
I was being um a good parent years ago with
my kids because my kids, my my oldest one obsessed
with Pox and Wreck watched every single episode multiple times

(17:08):
and I said, okay, we've got to sit down and
watch the Life of Brian. And if you remember, in
the middle of that this a lot of remember there's
there's a lot of books. It's very full frontal, very
very full frontal. Anyway, that was great, but sorry, odd
back to you and TV. So so, I mean, I
I really really because I grew up in this tiny

(17:28):
town on the East Coast, and there was something of
I want to move into my TV, like I really
related to I want to move into my TV. I
want to be part of that family this you know,
I had a quirky family. Some of it was good,
some of it not so good, and like like it
just felt like things were happening on TV. What were
the ones where your dream ones like that gave you

(17:50):
the vision of like even when you were talking about
how you saw how stand ups that you wanted to
be a stand up, because you saw stand ups got
their own sitoms like we're there ones that were ort
of your number, like your beacons in the night of
like I want that. Yeah, your favorite Well, love Boat
and Fantasy Island were huge Saturday Night excuse me. I'm

(18:12):
I'm an aesthetics person. Like I'm drawn to packaging, great
packaging that I like, you know, like, why do you
like that product? I was like, did you bottle? I
mean it's one of those, you know. So I'm drawn
to aesthetics. I like clean lines. Love Boat always looks
so clean, and you know, pristine and Fantasy Island. I

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like because you could create whatever world. They would create
the world you wanted, even though it was always, you know,
something crazy went down. So I loved those. I liked
the Jefferson's because their house was so nice. Their apartment
was you know, that was high end then. But like
Archie Bunker was hard to watch because I hated their furniture.

(18:56):
I hated Mash because it was the coloring. It was
all just dirt and green, you know, military green, and
so I hated it. When I got older, I realized
it was funny. But when I was younger, I was,
I want to watch and this the colors on here
are terrible. Did you want Did you watch Solid Gold?
I did? Um, I didn't live for Solid Gold. I
like watching dancing shows. Now I didn't. Yeah, I didn't

(19:18):
live for My mother watched it, so I watched it.
But yeah, and you know, like the Brady Bunch, I
liked their house, so I liked the places that had
nice homes. And so you combined a love of TV
with studying really hot. And when it came to going
to Duke University was that you were motivated to do

(19:41):
that completely yourself. There was no kind of parental pressure
to know. My parents were like the bed of the school,
the work. It was gonna be right. Yeah, no, that
was me. That that was all me. I'm telling you.
I was obsessed with school. I loved school. I got
off on getting good grades. You know, it just made

(20:03):
me feel cool. For those of you who don't know,
Retta was, she was premed. She was on her way
to becoming a doctor, and then started doing stand up
which is and I just loved in your book. I
loved your family. I have to, I mean I did.
I loved you family, and I love that they trusted
you like after you know, after going through Duke all

(20:26):
the way through Duke, and I also realized Ken Jong,
who is another brilliant comedic actor who also went to
he became a doctor. He had also Duke also have
you worked with him I've only done some stand up
shows with Ken. It really struck me, Like what your
parents I saw. I'm sure many parents after you're going

(20:48):
all the way through pre med at Duke. You know,
it's pretty much a set life of like I want
to Duke, I'm gonna become a doctor, Like your life
is set. It's like, you know what, I'm going to
become a stand up comedian. And I love that your
parents action was Okay, we trust you. Just you need
to have health insurance because if something happens, we're not

(21:08):
going to be able to take care of you. But
like how much faith and and how much faith in yourself,
Like I just love that you had the guts to
know that you had enough in yourself that it was
perfectly fine to have pursued pre med and it was
fine to say, you know what, I'm gonna go a
different way and I'm gonna bet on myself for something
that's calling me inside. I were you terrified when it

(21:30):
started coming up inside? You know? One of the things
is and because of my you know, my parents are
who they are. I've always had in the back of
my head, in like the very back, I'm like, if
all of this goes to ship. I know my parents
will let me live at their house, so I knew
that I would never not have someplace to to live
to sleep. I don't want to go back to Jersey,

(21:54):
but I've always known base that was I had that
On top of that, I've always known worse comes to worse.
You'll go home, you'll start studying, you'll take the m cats,
you'll go to medical school, You'll figure it out some
about Like I think I may still have my study
guides and stuff from you know, from my m cats

(22:15):
that I've stepped away from probably the last five years.
But I literally every time I pull the stuff out
to get rid of it like that, it's you never
know and put it right back in that closet. And
then the other thing that I talked about that I
had going for me, and I've talked about how I've

(22:35):
had this conversation with Amy Poehler and she felt the
same way. Once I had made the decision that that's
what I was gonna do, I always kind of knew
you have to know what's going to happen and then
you don't worry about it so much. So I was like,
I'm coming to l a I'm going to be an actor.
That's gonna happen. I've decided that's gonna happen. Now it's

(22:56):
on me just to do whatever little steps it takes
to move forward in my quote unquote career. So once
you've decided that's what you're gonna do, you kind of don't.
I feel like, you don't worry about it. My anxiety
was when, But my anxiety it wasn't if I had
the same thing, you know what I mean. I knew

(23:16):
no one. I always knew it was gonna happen. And
my mom, I didn't know when or how, but she
always was like, don't have a B plan. You don't
need a B plan. Go for it. Just go for it.
Chris Rock said one of his things was like he
bought like a big expensive house. He's like, now you
gotta paid for the house, so figure it out, you
know what I mean, Like he got this house. So

(23:38):
you went tortured when you were deciding. Yeah, I wasn't.
I wasn't. Um. You know, you had those moments when
other people did because I was going to stand up
route when you see other people do stuff and you'd
be like, oh, I wish I could have gotten in
on that audition or whatever, but I never had the

(23:58):
feeling of like what my doing here. Also, one of
the things that I always believed was you have to
be happy in your current situation, because if you're suffering
in your current situation, you're never gonna believe that you're
going to get to where you're going. So it was
it was the kind of thing of have always be
around good people, be around talented people, be around people

(24:22):
who you want to be around good friends. Essentially, just
make sure you have good friends, like, don't have the
bullshit friends like people who cancel on you all the
time and that kind of thing. Um, you have to
be able to enjoy yourself. And so I've pretty much
had the same friends for a long time. Once I
came to l A. You know, people go in and out,

(24:44):
but it was always I always felt I was around
good people. I didn't feel like I was competing with
any people that I was with. It was, you know,
I was with a lot of comics and so we
were pretty much, you know, helping each other out, you know,
helping each other with with punches and tedd and things
like that. But people you enjoyed being around that's so good,

(25:05):
just in any part of life like that. Life is
up and down. It doesn't always, I mean, that's just
the nature of things. And even if sometimes your external
stuff looks okay, maybe your personal life is hard or
your personal life is going great maybe, but that if
you really protect yourself and that you're around the people
that that you have fun with no matter what's rain
or shine, like, it's a good day regardless. So you

(25:28):
would you were doing so you did stand up for
a long time and then you made the switch to
deciding to become an actor. No, I did stand up
as a means to become an actor because I wanted
my own sitcom and because so many sitcoms were their
leads were former stand ups, I was like, well, that's

(25:49):
I'm just gonna do stand up so I can get
my own sitcom. Having toward as a stand up I
have to say. Hearing about your stand up schedule the
college route, that my tip of the hat of respect.
How many shows did you do in a year on
the road. I think my biggest one was like two forty.

(26:10):
This is another reason why we don't think that it's
right for you to call yourself lazy. But that was
all creative for me. So so it's but that's hard.
That's a hard life to show up for that. It's
hard now, it is hard. But particularly when I started,
I was like it was I thought it was cool
to fly into staying hotels. I burnt out on that clearly,

(26:30):
but at first, so it was fun to start. And
when I started, you know, I was booked like crazy,
So I was that was just my job. That was
just the work, you know, that was my nine to five.
My commute was to l a X. But I I
started stand up because I wanted to sitcom I didn't
start stand up because I I love I didn't enjoy

(26:53):
Stand Up Economy. I loved watching it. I never I
thought I should do it. I never had any desire
when I started stand up to have a special I
wanted to be funny and I wanted to be noticed
like I I never wanted to go down in history
as one of the best that had been cool. But

(27:14):
that wasn't I want an Oscar, I want an Emmy.
I don't want to be known as a genius comic
or that's fine, that wasn't my goal. I have a
slightly off the wall question here I'm just intrigued because
when we first met, Um. You may or may not
remember this, but I directed Parks and record Yes, Um,

(27:37):
and I always saw you as somebody who it's very,
very funny obviously, but who also had the emotional kind
of range to do straight drama. Was that ever on
the cards at this stage or no. I never thought
that until I used to watch a lot of television

(27:59):
and then when I'm to l A, I used to
buy a lot of movies on DVD, and I liked
watching indie movies particularly, and I really loved seeing people
who weren't necessarily known for dramas to do dramas, like
people like stretching their wings and doing a movie that
no one would expect. I loved watching that sort of thing,

(28:19):
and I think somehow, in the back of my head
something was telling me you can do more. And then
I did a play at the Beverly Hills Theater I
forget what it's called, and it had like drama in it,
and I was like, oh fun. When people saw me
in that, they were like, oh, I didn't know. I
was like, yeah, I mean, you're acting. I mean I

(28:40):
came here to act. But when I when I first
came it was a stand up I mean it was
about comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy. I wasn't pressed. It
was after you start working more and then you see
people do do more, you know, they do the comedy
to do the other things. Then you're like, oh, that
would be interesting. So that's something that evolved that you know,
war and just like when you people act and then

(29:03):
they want to direct. I think it's experiencing and seeing
all the different things and being like, I think I
can do that and that would work for me and
I would be comfortable doing that. We're going to take
a quick break and then we're going to come back
and we're going to talk more about this, more about
parks and rack all sorts of things. Will be right
back with Lydia the road. I'm just curious somebody threw

(29:29):
up on you on an airplane? Was that? I really
wish this was on the air Actually, Ardent is currently urinating. No.
I that wasn't the turning point. I mean for me,
it was the travel. But but like I said, I

(29:50):
was only doing stand up to try to get into
acting anyway. Uh huh. You know, so the travel was
that amount of foresight. It just blows my mind, it does,
it does? I mean, sorry, and we've been talking. It's
been really interesting. Sorry, why do you guys talk about Well,
I'm like, blows my mind that Retta had the foresight

(30:14):
to become like a really massively successful, award winning stand
up with a view to acting. It just that's incredible
to me. I guess no, I can say it's a
little bit though. I became a theater director, but I
always knew I wanted to shoot using a camera. I
always want to do drama using camera. But I did

(30:36):
theater first in order to get this, So maybe it's
a bit like that. I won't relate to Retta. I
knew I needed to get on stage to get an agent,
and I thought there wasn't a lot of twenty one
year old women doing it. I knew I could write
five minutes from myself, and like the second I got
a job, I quit stand up until my thirties. You know.
But it's it's hard to get signed as an agent

(30:57):
if you don't like go to Juilliard or you know,
it's a way to show what you can do. And
I also very much related to I stopped touring I've
never heard anybody else say it, Like I think a
lot of stand ups just want to be a stand
up and they go on the road and then they
hang out during the week, Like I never had a
day off, so then I come back sometimes I miss
my auditions. I was tired, so I wasn't able to prepare,

(31:19):
and then other women have been prepping all weekend because
they were doing late shows at Crackers in Indianapolis, and
I can't brutal, you know, like and I felt like
it is my ladder on the right wall, and I'm
just putting more and more towards stand up, and there's
like at a certain point you have to take the
leap of like, Okay, I'm not going to have this

(31:40):
X number of dollars coming in this month, but I'm
going to be in town available for the jobs that
I actually want. So I was touring a lot. I
was making good money. I was making really good money
because I've been doing it for so long, and you know,
the more you do, and then if you have shows
go well and they keep bringing you back year a year,
you know, you earn more. But it wasn't what I

(32:01):
was here for. It's not why I came to l A.
It was a little bit hard to decide. You're earning
good money doing this, but you're not doing what you
came for. And then I'm not here to get auditions,
Like I can't even there even if I want to audition,
I'm gone for the week. So when I would get

(32:22):
stuff in town, you know, I'd be very excited. So
I had to cancel a lot of shows when I
got parts. So I made more money doing stand up
than I did when I first started doing Parks, and
so there was like the challenge there, like do you
stick with the stand up? And I was like, yes,
it's not worth it. I want to be acting. And

(32:44):
I thought, just hearing about your your Parks experience is
such a good of like taking a bet on yourself,
showing up and being cool. Like I'm good friends with
Kate Flannery who played Meredith on the Office, and I
know it was similar like her first few seasons she
is just hired in the beginning to just sort of
fill out the office. A lot of those secondary kids,
like they were just around and I just hearing you

(33:06):
say that you still have your medical books. She kept
her waitressing job at Kate Mantalini's on the weekends through
the first two seasons of the office because it was
a really good waitressing job. She didn't know how long
it was gonna last, and like they would give her
some stuff. But like I think it was season three
or four she got bumped up to being a regular.
But like just hearing about your trajectory, like you're there,

(33:29):
You've got your buddy Jim, like that you know they're
going to come to you, and just how you were
ready when they tossed you, like when they tossed you
the ball, like that you just hit it out of
the park, but that you were a good sport along
the way. That just having faith that It's like I'm
around the right people. What was that like for you,
Like those first few years I took the job. I

(33:51):
mean Brian Reese, who I used to do, his acting class,
his cold reading class. Brian Reese was like, take a job.
Just take the job, like that was his big thing.
Don't wait for the great job, Take a job. Because
I remember my manager saying, well, it's glorified background. I
was like, yeah, but it's school for me because I
don't know, I don't really know what it is to

(34:13):
be on set regularly and me, I learned LINGO, I
learned ten one, I learned um, you know, like I
learned all the little things and literally was like I
was always that person that was like my hair in
my hair. But I'd still like that, I don't know
who I'm trying to kiss me. I don't know how

(34:34):
people I always run in like always people do it.
I don't know how they do it. The worst thing
is because you know, Parks was a mockumentary. You know,
last week I kept looking at the camera. I was like, God,
bless Parks. But I but it has has me looking
at the camera doing at like the gym take. Okay,

(34:58):
so this is me. That's a director asking you, how
do you not look down? Like I am like amazed
by actors that don't just like that, But how do
you do you like backstep it or something. It's like
when it's like neon, you kind of learn your peripheral
type thing. When it's I've just left the black mark,

(35:21):
I'm like, so you have to kind of stand on
the mark and kind of look around you and see
what it feels like to be in that spot and
then walk it back. It's it's hard for listeners at home. Basically,
when a character has to like come in and like
land at a certain spot, often for lighting or to
make sure you're not blocking somebody else that's in the
scene with you. There's little tiny pieces of tape on

(35:43):
the floor that are very specifically you have to hit
your mark, so you're light saying you're right and don't
mess up everybody else in the scene. But you're supposed
to hit this tiny piece of tape without looking at
your feet. They go, okay, we're gonna take up the marks,
and then there's like more than a fingernails. I'll try
to really look at it in advance, and I'll try

(36:04):
to look at a piece of furniture or something that
is nearer so I can kind of eyeball, like I
try to get near the chair, like a right near
the filing cabin. And then I always feel highly unprofessional.
I have had sandbags. When you're just stepping in a door,
you have to stop at a certain spot. I'm like,
it's hard. So you so you were learning your trade

(36:28):
amongst the best comedy. I mean, that cast was amazing.
That was another thing, Like I was completely intimidated by improvisation,
Like I would never agree to do an improv show
or anything, and that show I was surrounded by really
good improvisers, so I kind of learned improvisation with them.

(36:52):
That's an intimidating group to be thrown in with, you know,
and just have to roll with and be cool like
you know that, that's all. And as you were writing it,
you know, because I came up through the Chicago im
prophecy and and I know how like dirty, Like I
can see how if you're not used to that, and
I'm sure they thought you were because you did stand
up that Like that's a whole like wait what like

(37:13):
the jokes can't get really They used to play improv
games in between takes, and one of the ones was
like they would just say a name and you'd have
to do an imitation, and I would literally would be
quiet and back up because I'm like, yeah, I don't
do voices. I don't I don't know how to do impersonations.
How did you self soothe? Like how did you keep

(37:33):
your cool at like both technicals you know, TV schools
and very quiet? Okay, so are those listeners at home
and you're nervous? Is keep your mouth shut and listen.
I was just observing, observing and like taking it in.
And then once you make a friend, you start feeling
a little more comfortable. So like Paul Schneider was the

(37:56):
first person like really like talk to me because one
of my first scenes it was it was his scene,
you know where I was just sitting there, so he
was chatting me up. And he was one of those
people that did a lot of indies, so I knew
him from that and I was like, oh, he's so famous,
you know, from all these indie movies that I had
that I bought, you know, used from Hollywood Video at

(38:20):
my house. And then Jim because Jim and I were
always sitting in the background together, so we spent a
lot of time together. I loved your love of him
in the book, like it's just so I think it's
so important to have your palette any job. I mean,
I mean when I worked in restaurants, he said your buddy,
like anywhere you need your buddy. I think the thing

(38:40):
that about Pox and Wreck and I do feel like
a member of a very exclusive club because I worked
on the show. The thing about is it took a
very specific style of acting. I think to be able
to be on the show. So it is kind of

(39:00):
like you could throw it away, you know, you didn't
have to act in inverted commas, you know you It
was all really really underplayed, and that's incredibly tough to
pull off, I think, And a lot of the guest
stars are people that came from the same improvs and

(39:22):
groups and knew each other. Like I felt like every
guest star new two or three people on the show
because of you know, New York improv, Chicago improv, that
kind of thing. I feel like Bill Murray was like
the only person. Bill Murray and maybe Patricia Clarkson were
the only two people that hadn't worked with people on

(39:44):
the show before. How did you feel when you just
kind of turned around and you started realizing that people
knew who you were, that you were getting more a
bigger and bigger name, and that how did that? How
did that start happening and growing on that show? That
was that was pretty much Treat Yourself. Oh my god,

(40:06):
that's so fun. That was like the big the first
episode that I felt like people realize who I wasn't
you know, started being like, oh my god, she's funny
with us. The Hunting Trip episode where my car got
shot and I lost it. But Treat Yourself was definitely
the thing that sparked the Donna and Tom Tom and

(40:30):
Donna thing. We're not going to say treat yourself though
we're not gonna say it. There's such a joy in
the friendship of you, like watching those two it was.
It's such a perfect combo, so much joy, like you
could tell that you were having fun filming it. It
was fun. Yeah, But I didn't see it coming. A

(40:50):
lot of that stuff, even you know, the stuff with
Andy in April. It came from the writers watching what
was airing or what was you know, after stuff was
being shot and seeing sparks of whatever. I didn't see
Tom and Donna becoming like besties. Alan m Yang wrote
that episode. I remember thinking, Oh, this is gonna be

(41:13):
silly to do. Never in a million years what I
think that it was going to become the thing that
it was. And my friend Brittany, I tell this story
all the time, was on set. She happened to be
visiting me that day when we were shooting that talking head.
I also don't I'm not a good judge of my work,
you know, like what I've done or whether that's going

(41:35):
to be great or whatever. But after we finished shooting that,
she's like, that's gonna be huge and I was like
what is And she was like that treats uself. She's
like that's gonna kill and I was like, really, you know,
to me, I was just like I was just doing
what I was supposed to be doing. I think that's more.
That's more. That's nice. Though you don't want to be
somebody like this is it. Like, then I'm gonna get

(41:57):
a catchphrase treat yourself as you know, but it's always
but it's always like the thing. So I had a
line where I was like, it's not my favorite outfit,
but it is my least favorite outfit. I didn't think
that line was funny. I was like, I didn't know
how I was going to say it, so I was
just like, just just say you have to say the line.

(42:19):
It tortured me because I didn't get it, like, it
just didn't seem funny to me. When it aired, everybody
was like, oh my god, it's so funny, and I
was like, it was like for me, I just I
for some reason, I can't see I can read a
script and be like, this is hilarious, This is so funny.
But when it comes to me performing something, if I

(42:40):
didn't write it, I'm so tortured. I'm like, is this
how I supposed to do it? Like, you know, some
things are very you know, it's obvious how it's supposed
to go, and then some things I'm like, oh, just
figure it out, And then it comes back to the
just do it. It comes back to the like initial
what you were going to do that just at a
certain point, just just do it. I hate to admit this,
and so any writers listening, please close your ears. But

(43:04):
sometimes I don't understand what I'm direct and I try.
I'm like, Okay, get your happy. It makes sense to them. God.
I think it was partly as well. When I first
came over here, I was coming from the UK and
there was a lot of americanisms and I would be like, well, OK,

(43:30):
but I'm intrigued to know in this whole trajectory. You're
like amazing on social media. Is it true that you're
one of the first live tweeters of TV. I don't
know if it if I was one of the first,
but that's how people start kind of got to know me.
On Twitter, our producer Anna if she could reveal herself

(43:51):
right now, has your key chain of you live treating Anna?
There's a there's a key chain. It's not a treat
self key chain. I thought she had a tweeting key chain.
Did you have a tweeting key chain? The key chain
says hashtag live tweeting this bitch that I know. The girls. Yeah,

(44:14):
these girls they do a lot of parks, key chains,
mugs and stuff like that. I have that keychain somewhere.
I like that Anna bought it and about years ago
and purchased it. Yeah, I was. I think I was
really getting into Twitter at that point in my life,
and like I would follow all the shows you were
watching and I would read your tweets and I'd be like,

(44:34):
she gets it. It was. It was a big It
was a big thing. I remember I used to do it.
You know how I started doing it because you know,
when Emmy season comes, they send you the DVDs of
all the different things that they're trying to get nominated.
And so I would watch Breaking Bad in my trailer

(44:55):
and because it stressed me out so bad, I would
tweet about I was like, oh my god, you guys
he's in the shower and the cousins are sitting on
the bed. There's no I don't think I can take it.
And literally people would tweet back, it's gonna be fine.
It's gonna be fine. You know, is not canceled, so
you know he's not gonna die. Just it's gonna be okay,
all right, So you were tweeting DVDs. It wasn't even live.

(45:16):
It was just like I was. And because I had
to stop stuff like I would literally have to pause
things and walk away and be like, I can't take
listen Game of Thrones. I had to give it. I
had to walk away from I couldn't even deal with stress.
It made me like there's some stuff that just stresses
me too much and my body can't take. And so

(45:39):
I have to watch it on DVD because I have
to know, okay, this this is the middle of the season.
It's not any but Game of Thrones. I mean, they
would kill people now too much. You got a cat
when I killed whoever the dad was. At the end
of the first season, I was like, what is this
show and what is it trying to do? You can't

(45:59):
handle can't handle it. It was very stressful. Did you
live tweet Briartin, I didn't. I haven't really live tweeted
in a long time. When we come back, we're going
to take one more quick break and we're gonna see
what Juliete was about to ask. Oh, okay, and we're back.

(46:25):
Do you know you don't need to go again? And
I mean I do, but I don't want to let
Redda know that, so I'll just bet my pants. I
can't tell Redda that I want ready to like me, Jorda,
I wandered to think I'm an adult, not like a
five year old. I was going to ask about Bravo's
first scripted TV show, which, again you kind of built

(46:49):
your own, built your own character Barbara on Girlfriend's Guys.
Fois of course, a very good friend of mine, pulled
Edelstein was on that show. Um, I just wanted to
ask you, but how that felt, because having said that
pos and Wreck was a very understated, throwaway kind of
style of acting. How did that feel to make that

(47:12):
change over to Girlfriend's Guide? Well, it was nice that
it was the first time that a part was I
didn't have to audition for the party. Excuse me, thank you.
Actually that's not true. I mean I did get a
small part in the movie once as an offer, but

(47:34):
the circumstances that I had auditioned for this casting director,
it had gone really well, and she was like, oh,
I can't believe you know, they gave it to someone else.
So when she was doing something else, she YEA, it
was just like a little part. But the scene was
with Anthony Hopkins don't worry about it's not excuse me,
excuse me, I don't worry about me and Tony and
he introduced himself as Tony. I was like, I'm sorry,

(47:57):
I'm not calling it. I didn't respect and there's a
sir in front of it. It's not I'm not going
down to Tony likes j C. What. But so it
was my first offer. It was you know, it was
like a recurring so it was it was such like

(48:18):
such a big deal. And so my first day the
first scene that I it was actually the second scene
that I shot. There was this monologue where she's just
talking about how you know, things aren't her divorce wasn't
so great for her the way it is for Abby,
And I was like, I feel like she would kind
of break down in this and so I said that

(48:40):
Tom and and he was like, go for it, and
so I just I did it, you know, and I
broke down and he was like So he was really excited,
and so he kept like he's like, okay more and
so he I was like, I need a minute to
like again, let's go again. And I was like, no,
I need to breakdown. I can't start the sea like broken.

(49:03):
And so it was such a relief and it made
me feel so good that he liked what I did,
you know, my the choice that I made in that
that kind of gave me the feeling of you can
do whatever you put your mind to or or decide
you want to do in this industry. I don't have
to be locked into the comedy of it all, you

(49:24):
know what I mean. So that was kind of rob
Rob directed that episode. I love your your does your
inner flame, your inner guide, your instinct? You know, it
feels like you have such a good, strong, just naturally
like listening to the next indicated thing And when do
you get that from? Can I have it? Can you
help me? I'm actually serious about that. Do you have

(49:49):
advice about how to We asked Joe Jet the same thing.
By the way. What did she say? She said, like,
get rid of the background noise. And I think that
it was okay to be nervous about stuff like that.
It wasn't if you don't expect that it's not. You
still might have nerves, You still might have stage fright.
You still might But that sort of what you're sticking

(50:09):
with the people that you like and you know, just
trusting what's good for you. For me, it's like trust yourself,
not for yourself, trust yourself. This is a weird way
to say it. Like I feel like I'm a good person,
and I feel like I'm intuitive in a way that

(50:29):
you know, when I'm around people and I'm like, oh,
this person, I don't know if I want to be
around this person or if it's someone that people tend
to be like, and I'm like, you know, there's something
about this person. I think there's something that happened in
its past and that's why it's like this, but he's
really good, you know, like and it's always on the
other side of it. I was right about that, So
I trust my instincts. Having notice that I have instincts

(50:53):
that bear true at some point, So that's why I
will when I do something, or if I decide to
do something, I'm like, it's gonna come out all right.
They may not come out exactly how you thought or hoped,
but it's gonna work eventually. It's gonna work to your benefit.
I just assume that for some reason. But people say,

(51:16):
don't just trust yourself. Trust your instincts, especially like when
they say if you're out and you have a weird
feeling about someone thought behind you or what, trust your instincts.
Gift of fair, Gift of fair. I used to have
a crazy stalker and I did a self defense Ladies
out there listening, I had a weirdo and I took
a self defense class, and there was a book Gift

(51:37):
of Fear, written by Gavin de Becker, and basically they
said a lot of police officers says that there's an
animal instinct and that a lot of women will talk
themselves out. They'll say, I had a funny feeling, but
then we're taught to be polite to you don't want
to be rude and you don't want somebody to feel bad.
It's just like literally something on your back of your neck.
And that oftentimes when assaults from strangers are like in

(51:59):
a working out and building. Those people say I had
a weird feeling, but I didn't listen to it. And
that was an interesting just to trust, like no, like
go back into the store and get somebody to walk
you to your car, like trust your instinct. And I
think that is such a good thing, like in in
all areas, like in business and friendships and work like

(52:21):
it's true. You know, the other day, I was, well,
recently there was a job kind of came up, and
I was like, I'm not sure about this. My first
gut was I'm not sure that this is exactly the
right thing. And then you know, and then you hear, oh,
it's going to be great. Oh no, it's a it's
a really good opportunity. You should and I that's my problem.
I guess that's why I'm asking for your advice. Is

(52:44):
that I get caught up with all those other voices.
And then it kind of went full circle. I was like, no,
I was right in the first place. I was right,
But how do you not get caught up with all
the other voices that are around kind of persue waiting
you otherwise. I don't know. I just I just don't

(53:05):
like I will say you know in the beginning, when
I like, if I get an audition for something and
I'm like, I don't think this is for me. But
I'd be like, but the agent got it for me,
and I don't want to not go. And you know,
I finally got over that ship, you know, you know,
I've gotten to a place, especially as you get older,
like like when you get a call, a solicitation phone call,

(53:27):
like I would be that person. I'd be like, no,
I'm sorry, I don't want to know because I already
have a and I'm not but I didn't. Now I
gotta call. It's like, Hi, I'm calling them serious, don't
want it? Yeah, they don't know me. I don't know.
Then why am I trying to save their feelings? They're
getting this ship? And I used to really be stressed
about not being rude to somebody who's trying to waste

(53:51):
my time and take my money. That's right, which is
a really good segue too good girls, Right, Yeah, I'm
getting the hang. I'm getting the hang. You did a
really good job. You did a really good job. I'm
really gad are you doing? Did you a podcast on fantause? God?

(54:13):
Can we talk about for one second, what do you
want to say? I mean, how about how about listen?
You know what? You know, what I've noticed is that
because I saw that, I saw that you had directed,
and I was like, this, Jewels, she is fucking directed
ship that I was like, I was talking about a

(54:34):
show and I was like, oh my god, I love
this show. It's so great. She's like, you know, I
directed that pilot. Like the pilot, and for those of
you at home, the people who direct the pilot, they
set the vibe of the whole show. They said, look
at the show, they said, the directing style. They said,
like they build the boat that everybody has to cattle
like stay. So that is like kind of their their

(54:58):
stinks on the show, if you like, show their stinks
on the shot, just for our listeners at home, stinks
all over all of all over. What can I tell you?
When you read the script, did you have the moment
of I don't know what the hell this is but
or were you like really, I mean, it was so fun.

(55:22):
It was so fun. One it was exactly what I
needed Christmas present, excuse me Christmas Day, Thank you Netflix.
You know you read the book. You know I was
obsessed with Hamilton's and so period piece, you know, the music,
the orchestra at the at all the events. To me,

(55:42):
it was like one of the things that reminded me
of was Vampire Diaries because it was always a dance.
Every episode that was I love dance that was. I
was like, Oh, they're gonna gather somewhere and start talking
to about somebody. Sounds content like there was and then
the music and listening to be like, oh that was left,
you know, like I love that. I love those moments.

(56:04):
It was just perfect for me. With the music was
something that we went all the way back to the rehearsals.
We choreographed all of those dances to contemporary music. And
that sounds crazy, but the timing of contemporary music is
exactly the same as the as the timing of music

(56:26):
back then, as the period music of the regency. And
so I worked with this amazing choreographer and I just
really wanted it to feel like Hamilton's. I wanted it
to feel really contemporary. And one of the ways to
help the actors realized that they weren't in another kind
of period drama, of which I love those. By the way,

(56:50):
I'm not criticizing those but it was to really embed
this contemporary feeling music so that they really eyes that
they could be fresh in their performances as well, and
fresh just in the whole approach. And I was really
lucky that Sean Land is incredibly supportive. It's so nice

(57:12):
to hear that you enjoyed it, though honestly it really is.
I've been trying to decide when I should revisit. I
don't want to do it too soon, you know, But yeah,
I know I'm gonna watch it again. But I'm intrigued
because I mean, I really want to talk about good girls.
But you have got a knee injury, You've got ankle injuries,

(57:33):
You've had to deal with this ship. For those of
you who don't know, Red had this terrible accident where
she was were a porch collapse. She was at a party,
and I mean, it's just like the worst luck, you know,
and it's affected probably your every experience, your day to
day life that you have to deal with that other

(57:54):
people aren't thinking about because they're just walking around and like,
you've had pain, you know, and I just felt for you.
It Also it causes me to think about other people,
you know, so like I'm always like, when someone's standing
for a long time, I'm like, sit down, do you
want to sit down? Or like when I'm like if

(58:15):
I have to get my hair done, I'm like, I'll
sit on the lower thing so you can sit on
a high thing like I want. I've tried to overcompen
sate as if it were me to help someone out,
because I'm like, I hate to see people having to
be on their feet for a long time. Nothing makes
me crazier, and so I get it because that's always ready.
The first thing I think about when I have to

(58:36):
go somewhere is where am I going to sit? People
are always like when they see me at parties. You know,
my favorite thing is people watching at Hollywood party. It's
it is. I love it. Watching famous people be drunk
and dance is manna from heaven. You're us, really, you're us.

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You allow us to be excited. You know, it's so odd.
It was solf A. For those of you haven't read
her book, you should read it. It's so fun. But
people would always say, I just love I love coming
to a party because Rhada, you're like the queen. You're
always you always sit in your throne and come to you.

(59:20):
That's because I can't stand up. People don't realize that.
I'm like, I can't be on my feet right. So
all I think about is if I go to a bar,
I'm like, how proud is that bar gonna be? Is
there going to be a stool for me to sit on?
Otherwise I can't I can't hang out. That's hard to
have to think about. That's it is. It's hard to
have because other people aren't thinking about it, and you
have to like think ahead. And so I wonder because

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about with Ruby Hill, you know, the emotional girls. You
are the emotional kind of rooting, grounding force in that show.
I mean, I love everybody on it. It's a really
great show. The dynamic is so fun. And I wonder
if some of that comes from what you just describing
some of the experiences that you've had to go through

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just physically. Ill. I don't know, I mean, I mean,
I don't write the show, obviously, but I will say
when we did the table read of the pilot, Justin Spitzer,
he's married to Jenna, our creator, and he said to
her after reading he created Superstore And he said to
her after I didn't know that okay around that Ruby

(01:00:33):
and Stan. He said to Jenna, that's your show, that's
your the base of your shows. I love watching you
guys together the dynamics. He's wonderful, and your humanity just
shines through. Like I mean, obviously your humor is effortless,
but I think that watching it, you just have so
much humanity that just comes through. And like, I believe

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you guys are a married couple. I bought. I'm rooting
for you. I I mean watching you when he buys
the karaoke machine and you're, first of all, you're a
really good hurt really good excuse me, excuse me, push it,
excuse me. Never mattered that song, the fun of that
scene into the turn of the pain of like the betrayal,

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and like I don't want that, Like it's just you
guys are so watchable, Like you need that couple in there,
because it must be so fun to have such a
meaty role, you know, to feel so fully seen. It is.
It's nice to not play a trope, you know, it's
nice not to just be the you know, sidekick or whatever.

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With Reno, we're so similar, Like I didn't I didn't
think we were at first. I only really knew Reno
from Mike and Molly, so it was just like jokes, jokes, jokes,
you know, but I'm bump, but I'm bump, but I'm bumped.
So when I met him and we spent our first
day on set together and realized that we like the
same kind of music, we oh the same kind of

(01:02:00):
music and the cornball wraps and we would just we
sang a lot. We we sang a lot on Parks too,
but we just that's how that's how push it got
in the show because he and I were singing it
in between takes, and the writer recorded it and sent
it to Jenna, and she's like, we're putting in the show.
I mean, it's one of the greatest songs of all time.

(01:02:22):
And you guys, I never even thought of it for
karaoke and never even crossed my mind, and that was
an option on the playlist. I was like, and now
nobody else can never sing it because it will never
be taught. It's perfect. I feel I have to be
the grown up one and say we're during the end
of that time. Oh my god, you did such a
good job at the time, Julian, But I really want

(01:02:44):
to ask rhetta a question that you kind of asked earlier,
but again it's a self help question. If you could
give your young self advice, what piece of advice would
you give your young self? Oh, it would be don't
worry about it. In that it took me to get
older where I was like, like I said, once you

(01:03:07):
know it within yourself, it's going to happen. I think
I spent more of my younger years just worried what
is my future, what's it going to be, instead of
like kind of living in the moment, like I said,
you know, you've got to be happy where you are
or you're never gonna get where you're going. I think
I lived more of that when I was younger, because
for me, it was like I need to go to

(01:03:28):
medical school, I need to do this, I know all
these things that need to get done, or you know,
I'm not gonna be able to become a doctor. And
but where I was like, you were doing all the
things you were supposed to do to get there, and
then I was steps from it and I was like, oh,
this is not what I wanted to do. And I
totally changed and I wasted all that time stressing about
going someplace that I really wasn't even trying to go to.

(01:03:50):
So I would say, don't let anything stress you out.
If I could have been in hippie mode when I
was younger, I think I would have had a lot
less crying myself to sleep moments. The thing, you know,
that's such good advice. I love that. You know, you
know how kids get like so worked up in they

(01:04:11):
gets so anxious about stuff, and like your five what
are you worked up? But you know I get anxious
for Christmas because you're what if I don't get whatever?
Like obviously a five year old, you can't convince it'll
be fine if you don't get Rackham Stock them Robot
And by the way, we bought it. Just relax, Yeah

(01:04:33):
we bought it. We got as you can't. I would, yeah,
I would somehow try to convince myself that it's gonna
be fine, don't worry about it. Read it. It has
been such a joy to meet you. I feel I've
loved reading your book, I've loved watching you. And thank
you so much for your time and I think for
such good wisdom, both for Julianne and I for all

(01:04:55):
of our listeners. You were of service to all of us,
and I wish you nothing but success and is there
anything you want to promote? What else I got going on?
By her book? You should buy her book. Thank you,
really really thank you. All right, well, thanks for inviting me. Ladies, Jallian,
you did a really great job with your Segrays, Retta,

(01:05:16):
keep by keeping on Anna, you have your key chain
going and Zach will touch you again next week. You guys,
you can email us at Lady Podcast at Lady podcast
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It's not? There? We go and I say, Lady Podcast,
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Road Podcast at gmail dot com. My name is artam Marine,

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along with my co host, Miss Julian Robinson, Miss Retta.
We'll be back next week. Thank you so much, goodbye,
Thank you,