The Influencer

Arden and Julie Anne talk with British Influencer Tallia Storm who was invited by Elton John to open for him at the age of 13. Since then she has appeared on X Factor and dropped an album titled Teenage Tears!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H Hello, there's no need distress. She's She's a lady

(00:28):
Mark Rivers Dinner again with that theme song. Hello, and
welcome to another episode of Lady of the Road. My
name is Arden Marieen coming to you from my boogie
garage in Los Angeles, California. You may know me from
Insatiable on Netflix, or Shameless or Chelsea Lately, or maybe
you don't know me at all, and that is fine
with me. Is my friend, my partner in crime and

(00:50):
my co host, Miss Julie Anne Robinson. And where do
people know you from, Julianne? Oh, they might know me
from Arn'tus and you Black Castle Rock, Nurse Jackie, ap
Biopox and wreck those things. I think there might be
something else. Okay, I just directed bridgeton and excuse me,

(01:10):
excuse me, And by that, I'm going to say she's
the sexiest lady in Hollywood. And those are her fans agreeing?
Is this sexiest lady in Hollywood? That was my mom?
Actually those are her pet cricket Um. Juliette, how are
you today? I'm good, I'm good. I I just went
on a very long, you know, socially distanced walk. Uh

(01:35):
you know, and that was good. And with us we
also have our wonderful producer Anna Hi. We are so excited,
so excited to have this person with us. She is
a singer who Now if you guys do not know
the story, and I'm sure she's told her a million times,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna, unfortunately give her a little

(01:56):
warning that we're gonna ask her to tell it again
because it's truly the greatest story ever. She was discovered
by Elton John at the age of thirteen and I'm
not going to say anything more about the discovery. And
he invited her to open for a concert for him
in the UK in front of seventeen thousand people, and

(02:16):
you need to google a video of it. She did
it with so much poise and this little thirteen year
old sensation, this Scottish girl had the voice of like
a classics like an Ella Fitzgerald, old fashioned like soul singer. Uh,
it's just I mean, he picked the right thirteen year old.

(02:38):
I'm just saying. She toured with him. She has had
numerous albums out. She appeared on X Factor. She wrote
a novel called Pop Girl about a girl named Storm.
She's an influencer, and she says that she made social
media a part of her life and turned it into
her business and at the age of seventeen, Instagram paid
for her debut album entitled Teenage Tears, and her new

(03:00):
album entitled I Am the News is out now. Please
welcome to the podcast, Miss Talia Storm. I feel like
we missed a lot out as well. Gave Ted Talk.
She gave me breaking Ted talk. Wow, I am blushing
over that introduction. Thank you so much for having me.

(03:20):
I'm so excited to be here. Where are you in
the world, Miss Talia. I am sat in London and
it's dark outside, but I'm not complaining. I am very
very looking forward to this, so thanks for having me
for Because this is not a visual medium, I have
to say Talia is the best dressed of all of
us and our guests. So I mean she came just

(03:44):
you just had a photo shoot, Is that correct? Yes?
I had a photo shoot and I had someone help
me if my makeup, my hair. So I am. I'm
feeling good. I've got a cup of green tea necks
to me and I think everything, everything is under control,
Everything's under control. Well, we're so happy to have you.
I hope that you have had an okay year and um,

(04:05):
you know when Julian was like, we have to have
I met this young lady and she's so interesting and
so like just such an unusual journey that she's had.
I'm sure you've told it many many times, but would
you mind sharing with our listeners sort of your origin story?
I would love too. So when I was thirteen years old,

(04:26):
I passed my demo tape to Sir Elton John's partner,
an incredible man named David Furnish, during a chance encounter,
and twenty four hours later, Elton John phoned my mobile
said he'd listen to the demo tape. He said he
actually played the demo through the speakers at his concert
in Hawaii and played out loud I'd love my voice,
and asked me to open his concert in Scotland six

(04:49):
months later in front of seventeen thousand people. Can I
say there was one thing about this story that I
was particularly gripped by, and it was that you. Elton
John called you as you were going through security at
the airport. So he called you, and because you're going

(05:10):
through security, you had to hang up and you couldn't
finish the conversation, so you just didn't know. It's like,
was that actually? What was that? John? The stress of
having to hang up on elon John halfway through a conversation,
that's mind blowing to me. That is probably the most
real part of the story. And I always think about
it in my mind because I've got two younger brothers

(05:30):
who at the time we're literally four and five. I've
got my mom and dad and my grandparents. So there
was literally a party of nine of us, a traveling
or and we're insecurity and my literally sony ericson flip phone,
which is like, it's pink, it's also pink, and it rings,
and this is the first time it's wrong the entire holiday,
and I'm like, first of all, I'm like, I'm also
going through security and you're not allowed to answer a phone,

(05:51):
but like, actually totally answer because I didn't even consider,
didn't even cross my mind that it could have been
ill anyway answering He's like, hello, is this Talia. It's
Elton here. And I will never forget this moment because
I remember like looking around as there's like thirteen year
olds in the middle of security. You can't go backwards.
You can only go forward. And I remember literally going
like I have not felt this through what now? And

(06:16):
I'm like I can feel myself like kind of freaking
out because I'm like, how do I explain to Sir
John hanging in a minute, laugh, I can't talk right now?
Oh my goodness. So I'm like kind of sweating, and
I'm like, can you phone me back? You know, I've
got the security guy come shouting me now because you're
really not allowed phones in security. And I had to
turn it off, put it in the thing, and at
this point I literally floods of tears. I'm like, I

(06:37):
don't even know if it's going to for me back.
Maybe that's it. I'm also trying to explain to my
mom like that was out John phoning me, and I
feel like I've just lost my chance of a lifetime.
But she's not even caring. She's got my two younger
brothers to deal with. Would you mind us back backchecking
a bit because like part of it, so you were
on holiday in Hawaii for your grandfather's birthday and he

(07:00):
so your whole family went and you were supposed to
leave two days earlier, but your grandpa got sick. Is
that right? And so you have just and your hotel
was booked up, but he was not well enough to travel,
so you had to switch hotels. And would you mind
us saying a little bit about how the handoff of
the because because I loved in your ted talk you

(07:20):
basically were saying, I know who you are, know what
you'r lane of the highway is, and then be prepared. Um,
So just just a little bit of like how this
phone call came to happen, because I think it shows
so much poise and just having your own back and
the guts of like believing in yourself. I love this.
Oh well, thank you for asking. This is actually probably

(07:41):
my favorite side of the story because we were in
Hawaii for my granddad's eighteenth birthday and it was a
massive trip for us, Like we are from Scotland, we
don't do these crazy man trips, but it was a
massive deal. My grandfather was like that set and treating everyone,
We're going to Hawaii as you do, and we had
been there a week and we were literally setify whole.
But my grandfather got so so sick, so obviously we're

(08:03):
all freaking out. We're like, okay, we need to try
and extend the trip by two days. So we changed
the flights and we try and rebook the hotel for
another two days, and they're like, I'm really sorry. It's
like Christmas New Year. There's absolutely no challenge. You can
stay here for another days, two days, especially because there's
so many of us. So we find this other hotel.
And now this hotel is obviously a lot nicer than
the one we were in, so part of us is like, wow,

(08:25):
this is also very exciting, but also that's sad at
the same time. And as soon as we arrived in
the hotel, um, you know, my my, my mom off
to deal with my grandfather in the room and staff,
and we hear this rumor that Elton John is staying
in this hotel as as literally as we arrive, obviously,
like the whole hotel is talking about it. So I
mean thirty me is like, oh my goodness, John, this

(08:47):
is incredible. So I'm like, I literally I remember spending
the entire two days like in the lobby, like walking about,
as if John would just casually walk through the lobby.
I don't, that doesn't exist. He's like using back in
Justes and whatever. So I told myself that I would
I would meet Elton John, and I would make this happen.
So obviously I did not meet Elton John. And the

(09:08):
day we were leaving, we were having one final breakfast
in like the breakfast room, and two tables away from
us was David Furnish, and I'm like, oh my goodness,
this is my moment that Elton John's partner. Elton John's
partner exactly. So I turned to my mom and I'm like,
what do you think if I went up to him
and you know, gave him the demo and wrote a note,

(09:31):
and you know, do you think he would pass home
to Elton? So my mom looks me in the eye
and she's like, Talia, if you're prepared to be told
go away in front of this entire restaurant room because
you're interrupting his personal private space, then absolutely go for it.
You need to be prepared that it might be a
massive note. So, you know, I'm getting to thinking, you know,

(09:52):
thirteen of me, and I'm like, you know what I'm
gonna do. I have the cutest four year old brother
in the room. Mart I walk over with my little
brother and like Zack, my little brothers called Sack and
I'm like, Zack, you're doing this with me and held
his hand. I walk over and I'm like hi, and
obviously I'm like also very young. Yes, he was so kind,

(10:14):
David furnished was so kind, and I literally I was
a nervous wreck and I just kept like over talking
and I remember this very well, and I remember just
not giving him a moment to speak. But eventually when
I did stop talking, he was like, I have a
connection to Scotland. We started speaking about Scotland and he

(10:35):
was like absolutely, I would love to pass this on
to Elton. And I was like wow. So that was it.
I walked back to my table, I finished my croissant
and then we went to the airport and that was
the day. I didn't think anything of it. And it
was to fly back to Scotland. We had to do
literally three stops. So it was the following twenty four hours.

(10:56):
We're doing our like final They get this point where
in like San Francisco, go to fly back to London
to then Glasgow, and it was San Francisco airport where
I'm going to security when Elton John rings my moba,
how many years have you been carrying that tape in
your purse. So I think this tape was probably about
a year old, but I had been carrying tapes in

(11:20):
my purse for probably about three years prior now. They
were very very very rough. Let's make that very clear.
But I think the thing about being young and just
having this kind of confidence, people always ask me, and
I'll Talia, how are you so confident? But I think
from a young age, I've just always had this feeling

(11:41):
in my soul that like I have a bigger purpose
and I've never really been able to explain it. But
one thing that I've always known is that I don't
really get embarrassed by things like this because I'm like,
you know, everybody starts from somewhere, and you've got to
be ready for that opportunity. And this is what I
said in my Ted talk. You know, no matter who
you are, whether you're a painter or a runner, you know,

(12:02):
what can you do? What can you be ready for
so that when the opportunity comes, how prepared are you? Wow?
It also says a lot about Elton John you know
what I mean that he it makes it. I mean,
I'm I've already been a fan of him, you know,
Obviously I loved Rocket Man. If you guys haven't seen,
I watched it twice, cry like a baby. But the

(12:25):
fact that he I don't know how many people like
in his position he is as a legend, that he
listened to it, and that he took the time to
call you, find you. And then so when you finally
talk to him, what did he offer you? So he

(12:48):
said he loved my voice. He said that I had
such a soul signature that not heard in twenty years.
He said that he's done googling and he'd been on
to my website that at the time was just pink
flamingos and a few pictures of myself, and he said
he loved that. And I said that my mom was
managing me and my dad was helping me with these demos.

(13:09):
And he was like, oh my goodness, you guys are
like the swear word, the Waltons of the music business.
And then there's me, like thirteen of me like ha ha.
And I didn't even get the joke at the time,
like the Waltons are thirteen. I was like yeah. And
so the craziest part is we at this point, we're

(13:32):
literally late for our flight, and because this call is
taking so long. By the time I've actually spoken to me,
we're on the phone for about happener and then our
names get called out on the tannel and being like
can you please go to gate and we're literally running.
My grandparents are already on the plane and we get
on their crying thinking they were about to like lose
them and being stranded in San Francisco, and we were like, no,
no Elton. John phone Talia and I remember her going

(13:56):
yes and I have just spoken to the Queen said
be quiet, And literally the entire flight back to London
because we are to do another connecting, I was literally
just listening to every single John song being like was
that real? And and the weirdest part is when we
landed in London, my mom's like, tell you just turned
on your phone, like whether she still taxing on the

(14:17):
tar mark And as I turned my phone on, it
was ringing and it was again checking if I had landed. Okay,
I love Melton, Like what what? And at what point
did he invite you to open for him? So he
in the first phone call, literally straight after security, he

(14:38):
said I would love you to open my concert in Scotland,
which is which was if this was January the seventh
when he called me, the concert was on June seventh,
which is crazy because lucky number seven, right, Like the
call was the seventh, the concert was the seventh. Six
months later. And then I think we eventually get back

(14:59):
to Scotland and he phones the house born and speaks
to my mom because he was like, I don't want
your parents to think I'm some sort of crazy man.
I'm going to speak to your parents. And I was
like great, And he spoke to my mom and said
that he was going to send like the head of
like Rocket Entertainment up to Glasgow to meet us and
just like sort everything out for the concert. And then

(15:19):
that was it had six months to literally prepare and
just get ready for this line changing opportunity. And that
was when you started being this kind of one person
at school and then the other person on stage kind
of thing. Correct, And we we were just having a

(15:41):
chat about that and we were thinking, gosh, that must
have been quite stressful in a way, because I mean
I grew up in the northeast of England. I remember
what it's like people. You know, people don't necessarily want
people to be different and it's this. I'm just curious

(16:02):
how you how you coped with the school versus the
stardom opening for Elton, how the cognitive dissonance of that. Yes,
so this was such a big part of it because
it was very uncool in my school that this was happening,
and like you said, it is not cool to be
doing something out of the ordinary. So the bullying was bad.

(16:28):
And I'm also from Scotland, so like Scottish building is
like a different level of like bullying. I know, It's
like northeast of England is one level and then Scottish
is like the other level. What kind of stuff would
people do? People would like print off pictures of me
and then like scrutch some of all like throw them

(16:49):
at me. They would also, like, um, print off pictures
just like draw on them and like stick them around
the school like laughing at me. Um, and like learn
the lyrics of like my songs and like sing them
like but like groups of people will come up to
me singing them just to like take the entire joke
out of me. And at the time I say this
now and I'm like, it doesn't really sound that bad,

(17:10):
but literally, I just nobody really wanted to like hang
out with me at school because they were worried that
if they were seeing with me, their reputation would then
turn into like a bullying frenzy as well. So I
just remember it being very dramatic and like I remember
thinking like, isn't it crazy that like such an incredible
thing has happened, But yet in my school it was

(17:31):
like the uncoolest thing. And no, obviously I look back
and I'm like, oh, my goodness, of course they were
bullying me. And you know, I had big hair, I
was I was doing my thing, and I was living
a dream that millions of people dream of. But I
think at the time it was like I've always had
this different I can't explain it. I just always had
this like feeling inside me. Like I said that, it
didn't really bother me to the extent it just made

(17:53):
me want to work harder. And I remember just being
like just being so driven and being like, Okay, this
is this is now a challenge. This is not a challenge.
And I approve every single one of your all that
you were laughing at the wrong girl, but also a
challenge to myself that not only am I going to
get through all that and I will make it. And
I remember just always feeling that. And I was very

(18:14):
very academic at school. I loved it. So I literally
just threw myself into my books and made sure that
I would not only be taking the books out of school,
you know, living this kind of fantasy, but also in
school making sure that was getting straight eight. This is
so interesting. We're going to take a quick break and
come back. I'm very moved by hearing about how um.

(18:37):
I do think sometimes when people dare to dream, dare
to be different. I turned on I hadn't seen American
Idol probably in ten years, and I was like trying
to turn on my Netflix, but it was like on
my and so I watched this young boy from a
farm town the other night when I and you know,
he grew up here, grew up in this football town,
and he's got all these brothers that play football and

(18:57):
some you know, rural America. Uh, and he sang once.
He's got this beautiful voice. He's sang once in front
of the school and just was tortured, tortured that he's
not a football you know, and here he is. And
he came and like just watching of how picked on
people can be for daring to be ambitious, for daring
to go against the grain, daring to be you know,

(19:18):
a little flame inside of people. You know. Not everyone
grows up in places that are like go for it,
You're safe. You know that it can feel quite vulnerable
and actually be quite vulnerable to risk having ambition, um,
to step out from the herd, to be a little
bit different. So I'm very moved by your story and
I can't wait to chat more about all of that

(19:39):
when we come right back and we're back. I mean,
it is a weirdly familiar story for me, obviously a
lot a lot longer ago, but um, yeah, and it
is something that it does us take time to overcome

(20:02):
those feelings of insecurity and low self esteem that that
are generated by experiences like that, I think, I mean,
there must be part of it still, certainly with me,
there's there's part of it still resonating. It's not that easy.
Did you ever think about becoming homeschooled or was that

(20:22):
just never an option? So I moved school when I
hit about I think probably about fourteen and a half,
so I literally only did about a year and a
half at that the original school. And when I moved school.
The second school was a lot more I would say,

(20:42):
inviting to the fact that I was doing something, and
I they often think strangers will support you more than
people you knew. So the only way I can explain
it is because I went to the school with complete strangers,
they were more inviting of, wow, you would do your thing,
Whereas because my original school had gone there since I
was a baby, know kinder Martin, it was no, we
know her that she can't go out and do that

(21:04):
because we know where she came from. She's come from
a little village and outside Glasgow, that's not allowed. So
I think I was really lucky that I I found
that that second school that was just really inviting to
this idea of Okay, she's she's chasing her dreams, let's
just respect it. And I think had I not had
that change of school in that in that invitation to

(21:25):
on you go do your thing, that I think my
story probably would have been really different in terms of
insecurities and and overthinking everything. But like you said, I
think experience is just such a matter of part of it,
and in a way I'm really grateful for it because
I've got really thick skin, and you know, but nowhere.
Nowhere means finished or where where I think my journey

(21:45):
is going to go. But also I'm very grateful for
all of these little steps and the ups and the downs,
because it really does make you who you are. It's
interesting here you talk about like how strangers. I never
thought of it that way, but I can see how
sometimes it is the most complicated with people that you
grew up with, Like it's some you know, I think
as we grow, we change, and you know, say you're

(22:08):
playing your part in your life. It's like you've you've
been you know, Romeo the whole time. You're like, I
don't want to be Romeo. I want to be Mark.
She was like, no, no, you're Romeo. You don't get
to change who you are like that. There is a
certain thing of it's okay to change, It's okay to
dream bigger, it's okay. You know, it's okay if people
don't like it, and it did. It sounded so isolating

(22:29):
in the beginning, and I'm glad that you were able to.
Did you find a group of friends at that second school? Yeah,
I really did. I think that the second school had
a lot more. It was just it was a sports school,
but I had a big music department, so like I
studied music engineering, sound engineering, and there was just lots
of kids there who had to dream like me. You know,
when like a lunch time, everybody like play their guitars,

(22:51):
and I just felt like I was on the set
of High School Musical because it was a much bigger
school and everybody was just you know, having fun, whereas
the other one was just snow vibe. And it's also
important to say my I've got such a big family
in terms of my younger brothers, you know, my my
older sister. So when I was going through all that
madness at school, I could still go home and just
be like, Wow, I'm lucky I am to have such

(23:11):
an amazing supported family. So I am. I'm It's not
like I was completely on my own, albeit at school
was isolating, if you know. So that was what I
was going to ask you about your family. Um, it's
almost like it's a family business what you do. Can
you talk a little bit about that and how how
that emerged? Yes, So I think ever since you know,

(23:33):
twelve year or thirteen year old Italian, when I started
making those rough demos with my dad, and explain about
your dad. Yes, so my dad actually does classical arrangements
for like a movie scores. So we're talking like orchestras,
like you know, like the big the very technical side
of music. And he is incredible at that. And he

(23:55):
knew that I lived and breathe singing literally ever since
I was like about four, I was sessed with sound.
So it was almost kind of a like like almost
like a birthday present. It would be like, all right, okay,
come on, come in, come into the studio today and
I'll help you, like make a song. And it was
always like a gift, you know, like a I'll do
this for you today like I need. Dad would. And

(24:16):
you know, like I said, it wasn't it wasn't something
that we really thought over on a bigger scale. It
was just that he was giving me this favor. And
perhaps that's also why I was always carried these demo
tapes around, because I also thought that, like, my dad's
doing me a favor, and I now need to, like
I need to I want to make something off this
for it to be worth this time. Did you write
the songs or the original songs that you were doing

(24:37):
demo tapes? Of yeah, I wrote them, so they're obviously
very different from the stuff I'm righting now, but I
also do love listening back on them and even hearing
my young voice, I am like, Wow, it's so cute
and my mom managed me. And funny enough, how did
that happen? How did that come to be that your
mom managed you? So my mom's background is fashion and branding,

(24:59):
so she let they'd be doing that for twenty years
and she does looks after like luxury brands in Scotland
and events and all of that glitzy stuff, which is amazing.
And so essentially she was just doing for me what
she was doing with all the brands that she would
work with on a daily basis. And funny enough, when
Elton formed the house phone, one of the things he

(25:20):
said to my mom was, you managing Talia will be
the best thing to ever happen to her, because if
she signs her life away at this young age, gave over,
you know, there's no one else that's going to care
for her the way that you know her parents, I e.
You guys will And one of the things he also
said was I really want you guys to know that

(25:42):
I promise you it's gonna take you ten years before
she starts to break through. And also that was kind
of sold destroying at the time because I remember thinking,
how can it take ten years? And funny enough, I'm
on my ninth fear now and it will be ten
literally next summer. And I do generally like, no, I
am starting to put my head above the water. So

(26:03):
you know, he is right in every sense. And also
your sisters, your stylist, is that right? Yes? So I
think that the great thing about my parents is we
because there was four kids, I either you know, we're
all in the house, we're all doing our thing. They
didn't want it to be some sort of Talia Storm show,
so they were always very like everyone could get involved.

(26:24):
But if you want to do change your dreams, and
you can do it. And I think my mom and
dad aren't fully workaholics, Like I grew up with my
mom and her emails to like three am, working every night,
and that was such an amazing environment to be around
because it just made me want to just work hard
and just you know, be this this this empowering woman
that my mom always was. And my mom was always

(26:45):
like to my sister because she loved fashion. She loved,
like literally dressing up and creating all these cool it
My my mom was like, well stick to what you're
good at. And Talia, you know nothing about fashion, so
let Chansey do it. And that's my sister. And and
that was that, and I think him I really lucky
that my mom always had that mindset so that there
was no there was no competition in our heves. It
was like, if you can see it, you can be it. Wow,

(27:08):
that's it's it's pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing, and so
can we Should we stop talking about the influence so
side of things for sure, because I don't really know.
I don't really know what it entails being an influenza.
It seems like you're just looking at like, you know,
it seemed like you were you had the voice and
that you appeared to have a good time and be

(27:31):
ready to dive in with like I'm gonna make a
strong look, I'm gonna do like you know, there's a
constant content like a feeding the beast of you know,
Was it like from a when you're like thirteen year old?
Was it was Instagram around when you started when you
were with Elton John? Did it exist then? I was

(27:51):
actually looking at my Instagram yesterday, funny enough, in my
first post, and I think Instagram literally came around in
the October. Fact I had performed in the June, and
I remember posting all the pictures I saw my Instagram
down at the bottom. It was like a picture of
a news article and a really blurry picture of me
on stage. So it was definitely not a thing. I
don't really think it kicked until about twenties sixteen, but

(28:14):
it was definitely like there. It was all about Facebook.
I remember Facebook being the thing, um, but definitely, like
you said, the influencing side of things, I don't really
think kicked until about like when I was eighteen nineteen,
and that literally just came around because I'm one of four.
There's no such thing as a bank of mom and dad.
It's if you want to carry on this, then you
better get to work. And I think I definitely got

(28:38):
that kind of entrepreneurial side from my parents in terms of, well,
I'm not giving up. I know in my head this
is gonna take me ten years, so I'm gonna have
to make my own bank of tally a storm, and
the only way I know how to do that at
this stage still being young is is through influencing. So
how did you, like, how did you start to go
about that? When you made up your mind, You're like, Okay,

(28:58):
I'm going to build my brand online. It's so interesting.
It's you know, look, being an actress. I had a
friend do an intervention on me. I grew up in
New England. It's the equivalent of it's don't shine your
light to it's braggy to post too many you know,
Like I grew up in the opposite world of like
the Kardashi and Kelly. It's like, who do you think

(29:18):
you are? Don't post too many things about yourself, don't
be too braggy, like, don't show too many you know
just that And my friend had to do an intervention
and say, you know, are to No, it's not gross.
You're sharing who you are. You love design? Can you
just think of it as like putting on like sharing
yourself with people, sharing your love of fashion, your love
of your house, like think of it like playing apart,

(29:40):
like it's there and it's a reality in the business,
and so how can you do it in a way?
Like I do love visual things. I like pretty pictures.
I enjoy but I think if she hadn't done that,
I was so frozen. I knew I had to do it,
and I didn't quite know how to go about it.
Like if you're we're talking, I know Julianne has has
to do it now, and I have a I have

(30:02):
a story about this. It was a real It was
really a wake up call for me. I was producing
a TV show and one of my stars had many,
many followers on Twitter and was able to tweet about
the show, and that was like a really meaningful thing.
It sounds so naive, but I sort of like, oh, okay,

(30:26):
I see it is. Actually it's it's a meaningful tool
of communication that I had, you know, underrepresented to myself.
So then that's where why I started getting involved. But
it's really obviously it's important. It's a commodity, Like how
did you approach it three years ago when you decided

(30:47):
I'm going to double down on this to try to
earn money and to try to build this and to
like what advice would you give to to your younger
self of like what did you get right? Like what
like what do you say to somebody that wants to
sort of build their presence or and do it in
a way that doesn't mentally take them down. Well funny enough,

(31:07):
I would always I would say to things, I would say,
if you know who you are, you know what you
stand for, then go be yourself, go out there and
just start posting. You know, and you know we can
archives and you know, a couple of months time if
if if some of the posts weren't quite right. But
the other part of you would say, if you are
ready to go, but you're just not sure you know
who you are or what what you could bring to

(31:30):
the table, then invent that character. And I literally mean this,
if your life was a movie, who's your character? What
is she? What does she feel? What does she do?
And how can she make other people smile? And I
think if you kind of ask yourself those questions, and
I think you're like, you start to look at your
life differently, like, actually, hang on a minute, Well, my
my character really likes Goffe and we could you know,

(31:52):
she's kind of funny, so how can we how can
we put that into my Instagram so that other people
can enjoy it? And I think the most important thing
is some people make the mistake of like you said,
it's it's super important to share your successes but also
in a relatable way. So I've always had this joke
in my head that I really want to win a
brit Ward, but when I win my brit Ward, I'm
gonna go to McDonald's and like have my brit Wards

(32:13):
and just eat McDonald's because I love McDonald's. I think
you're just whatever your thing is, right, share it in
a way that it's like relatable, but also like okay,
she's she's she's having fun with it, not too serious.
But the number one thing is just bind your character.
And I think that's that's the message. That's so two things.
I have a friend who is sort of is pretty

(32:35):
good at all this, and she would always say that
people that advised her said aspirational yet relatable, which I
thought was so interesting. And I my friend who did
my intervention on me also said post about other people.
Do women crush Wednesday? Traveled Tuesday? Like it doesn't have
to just be selfies, you know, like look at your grid,

(32:55):
you know, like person place thing like is there like
just ending love to other people that you're friends, that
you're proud of like that, you know, just thinking bigger
in a life way. But hearing you talk about the character.
You know, I do stand up and I started it later.
And one of the things that really help unlock it
for me with somebody saying I was so scared of it,

(33:18):
and somebody's saying to me, who's the character on stage?
Like it sort of makes it slightly less personal. But
I don't understand how you're being authentic. You have to
explain to me, how are you being yourself if you're
like being a character that you're creating at the same time.
So just help me understand that a little bit, both

(33:39):
of you. In fact, for me it was stand up.
It was still the essence of It's still the essence
of who I am. It's still authentic to me, but
it's like I guess, it didn't feel like I was
completely giving myself away. It was so for me really
it was learning how the audience liked me on stage,
you know, like that I had one eye, yeah, and

(34:00):
then it seemed like the audience like like Kitty who
got into the champagne bottle and Kittie wants to play
And that way, I didn't live and die by each joke,
because sometimes you're sometimes and when you're like this one
I get a laugh every time. Sometimes you don't, and
that if my self esteem was so like you're living.
If you're there and you're bringing a vibe of yourself,
that's like it's still you, but it's just knowing what

(34:24):
version of you you're bringing. It's not fake, it's not
like trying to pretend you're something else. But it makes
for me, it gets past my social anxiety and makes
me able to take it less personally if I don't
get the laughs. I hadn't ever thought of it in
terms of social media, but like for me with stand up,
it made it not so much. Every part of me

(34:45):
is raw and wide open, like and everybody can know everything.
I couldn't agree more. I was especially about to say
the exact same thing. And I think that the other
side of it is if you do get hate and
you know, people aren't calling nasty things and people want
to judge, which is also a big part of it,
it's like, well, I don't need to take that personally
because you don't. You don't really know me, you know.
And I think that's another important thing that that you

(35:08):
hear these really big stars talk about that, it's like
we keep of that that tiny bit of themselves to themselves,
and I think him at the end of the day,
there's this massive trend of you know, Instagram's not real
life and all this which is which is true? You
know Instagram is not real life. But at the same time,
like you said, you've still got to be authentic. So
where you know, the point is where do you be
authentic and where is being a character? And I think

(35:30):
it's just kind of that middle ground of I'm being
exactly who who I want to be, like the happiest
version of me, and I think for me, I always
want my content to be uplifting and I'm fun and
bright and colorful and that's what makes me happy. So yes,
it's definitely not being authentic in terms of some days
I'm like not feeling great and in my bed writing

(35:50):
sad songs, but well, I don't choose to share that today.
I want to be happy and uplifting. So I think
that's what we mean by finding that character and what
the characters morals. Of course, it's me, It's just not
how I feel every day. Yeah, can I I have
a kind of a follow up question. I have a
son who's twelve, and um, these guys know him, and

(36:11):
he's you know, he's always saying, you know, I would
love to do social media. I would love to do
And I've always been concerned about that because of the
oh the idea of the likes, you know, the likes,
and and becoming addicted to to that, and the fact
I've read these articles about people getting burnt out because

(36:33):
they've got to keep producing content, to keep producing content,
and that side of it has always been kind of daunting.
How do you mentally deal with that side of it
when it's a big part of your life. Well, it's
funny you say that, because my younger brother just turned fourteen,
and he did go through a phase around about eleven

(36:55):
twelve been like, oh, I'd quite like to do something
like this, And I remember my mom saying, you need
to what is your thing? Because if you're just going
on there to post to a bunch of bubbish, then
you're not going to get you anywhere and it's just
gonna make you sad because the bunch of bubbish is
not going to go viral. And going to tell that now, darling.
But I think the good thing was it was that
he was like, well, I I want to be music

(37:15):
and my brother has is like me on like, I
don't know rocket Field, He's like, plays a saxophone, the drums.
He's just he's just generally just a gifted soul. So
he just got really into saxophone and that kind of
was his whole being. He didn't really care about social
media after that. But I think the most important thing
is if you if you know what your thing is.
So if you're you know, if you want to be gamer,
if you want to be a you know on Twitch,

(37:35):
or you want to be you know, like an into fashion,
and I think that if you know, as long as
you know the thing, then I've got no problem with
jumping in. But I think the most important thing is
just potentially monitoring it and making sure that everything is
it's all fun. But what about you? Do you ever think, oh,
have I got a post today? Oh I've got to
keep my Yeah? Yeah, you know, do you ever feel

(37:56):
like that? Yeah? I think for me in Lockdown, I
definitely did go through phases of like, well, what now
because my my character right now isn't really enjoying this,
so how do I do? You know what I mean? Like,
I'm not enjoying this right now? So what what where
do we go from here? And I think that's the

(38:17):
lovely side of well, let's let's keep it real. Let's
you know, let's be honest and let's share on there
that we're all feeling a little bit down where there's
a global pandemic going on, and that's okay. So I
think it's just the balance of if you feel like
I want to call it over sharing, if you if
you're in the mood for over share, absolutely, but make
sure you're not putting that pressure on yourself all the time.
It's okay to just go back into the character's bubble,

(38:40):
but it's good to overshare every so often and let
them in. This is so good. I want to talk
so much more about this. We're gonna take a quick
break and we'll be right back. I'll tell you storm
and we're back. This is so interesting. I'm fascinated by
the only business side of it and the reality TV

(39:03):
side of it. Talia's mom is on The Real Housewives
of Jersey, which is not to be confused with the
Real Housewives of New Jersey. It's a British version that's
on an island. She is one of eight women and yeah,
she's she's she's she's done very well on that. It's
been a bull last did she she had a good time.

(39:25):
She would never admit this, but I think my mom
going into this world of the show was grety fun.
But my mom is straight talking, doesn't stand for anything,
and just you know, but says it like it is
business woman personified. And I think that because she was,
I would say, the realist on the show. She has
like she's definitely much further on than a lot of

(39:47):
the other ladies. So she's just she just had fun
with it. And this is what I mean by my
mom went in there as herself, and I think that's
why she's come out on top in terms of she
wasn't hooking back. She just was like, you know what,
I'm fifty years old. Now let's let's just give them
exactly who I am. And it's come across that way
and people have seemed to really love it. So, um,
great show and great fun. Did you have any tips

(40:10):
for her? Because I know you've done reality TV, haven't you? Yes,
So I actually love reality TV. I think I love
I remember I did my first show and when I
was nineteen, and it was called Slabs with Dating on
E four and I remember a lot of people, especially
like label people because I'm independent, being like, oh no,
she's going into reality TV and really looking down on
me on it. But this is what I mean about

(40:32):
having a vision and having a goal. I will find well,
I will get there. And in terms of I come
from a tiny village in Glasgow, me even getting offered
to go on that show, then who am I to
turn that down? So very well? You love sitting in
your offices and you know Hyde Park telling me that
that's not cool. Well, you know, And ironically now all
the labels are trying to get all of their apps

(40:53):
on reality TV because it's the only thing that's bringing
in the numbers. So for me, I was like, this
is a dream come true. So I loved every mine
of it, and I just I learned so much. What's
the format of that show? What do they do when
they don't have that here? I don't I don't know
how it goes. So basically it's like I think it
was six celebrities and we would go on dates with
like a bunch of random people. It's the best show.

(41:15):
You've got to watch it. I love that show. I
host a podcast about the Bachelor franchise. So this I'm
anna and I might have to this is definitely up
our alley. Okay, so six celebrities, they go on dates
with just people everyday people correct, And the base of
the format is there was two relationship growers called Nadia

(41:36):
and Eden, and we would always put back to them.
They would set us on these dates and we'd keep
going back to them and with updates how the dates
were going, and then they would also watch back the
dates and then judge us in our performance. I well, today,
you were rubbish on that date and why the hell
do you think that you're gonna get something out of this?
And then the finale was in the Fluels all to

(41:57):
keep Verdant, which is like Western Africa. We had the
finale and everybody got to bring a day I and
you'd like hopefully like finished with like a general partner
like that you would enjoy. Did any long term couples
come out of it? Absolutely not, But that's interesting that

(42:18):
it's interesting that. Um. I remember when I booked mad TV,
my manager told me not to do it, and I
remember thinking at the time, who is no longer my manager?
And at the time thinking, well, it's all well and good, like,
you know, I was doing a pilot every year, but
it wouldn't get picked up, and it's like, well, you're
getting checks from all these huge clients, like you know,
because he thought that because it was late night money

(42:39):
and not primetime money. It's like, well, you know it
was on the twenty episodes of smaller Checks. There's still
twenty smaller checks. That's a much bigger pile than no
money of like fantasy version of these shows that never go.
So like, I'm going to do the one that I
think it's easy, like in a fantasyland, if you can
hand pick your dream career, like yeah, obviously that would be,

(42:59):
but wasn't my situation. So you found out. So the
label people were like, don't do it. But I'm just curious,
what's the difference between a label person and what you're doing.
What's the difference between those things. So I'm fully independent,
and I think the difference is that I'm literally doing
everything myself with my mom, and I employe lovely person,

(43:20):
which I'm also very proud of. You know, that's all
my hard earned money, and the differences are label sits
there with probably thirty five people working on one act
thinking about how they can dress them, style them, take
them to the stars, which is incredible And and I
would never slag off labels because I will definitely one
day sign, if not within the next year or so.
But I just think it's really important as an artist

(43:42):
to have built a following and have done your time
and done your work. And I think that's what makes
me really excited to kind of be where I am.
And going back to speaking about house Wives my mom show,
you know, when you ask what my advice would be
to her, I said, first of all, absolutely do it,
because she didn't want to do it because they actually
came to her first from my mom does this event

(44:03):
called the Jersey Style Awards, and she gets at the
big celebrities over to go like Surely Battery to perform.
So that is like the hottest event on the island.
So when the show came and started speaking to my mom,
it was literally my mom literally giving everything. It was
like who do you think should be on the show, Like,
let's like, what of your friends? So my mom's definitely
like the pioneer behind this entire thing. But my mom

(44:25):
didn't think for a minute that she would be on it.
She just felt like she was behind the scenes, you know,
it wasn't really her cup of tea. And I was like,
you know what people are quick to judge about, you know,
this reality TV and going off brand or whatever, whereas
I'm of this, this, this picture that's like life is
so sure. If you get an amazing opportunity to work
with the production crew of forty five people, then who

(44:46):
are we to turn that down? Like genuinely, who do
we think we are? So she did it. She had
so much fun. And my only piece of advice was
in reality TV, you've got to repeat, repeat, repaint, So
you know, you filmed for like eight hours and they
use four minutes of your time. So it's not it's
not like we're producing some sort of bridget in here.
You are your own script writer. So if you want

(45:06):
a message, keep repeating until that message is said. So
that was my advice. That's interesting. That's so interesting. Yeah, yeah, repeat, repeat, repeat,
Dr Banana, Dr Anna hose Na. I know you had
a few questions for Talia. Yeah, Hi, this is a
very interesting hearing about your story. I I'm curious, so

(45:29):
when just because like Instagram, I started going on around
college for me and I feel like as a millennial,
I I picked it up pretty quickly. Like I've been
online since I was in elementary school, so it's very
easy for me. But like the whole influencing like branding,
you know, to me, I'm like, wow, that seems like
a lot of work. I could never do that. But
I'm curious like when you were, you know, starting to

(45:52):
build your career, like how like did anyone kind of
like or your mom I'm assuming I'm guessing your mom
like kind of tell you how to like build your following,
like what to post? Like did anyone tell you anything?
Or were you just like it wasn't intuitive because you know,
you're young and you're like in this world. Um yeah,
I'm curious about that. Yeah. So I can only put

(46:14):
it down to time in terms of in my head,
I was like, how can I I was thinking more
about wanting brands to work with me than I was
building my followers at the beginning, and I'm gonna be
honest about that. I was like, how do I get
this brand to want me? So I was just thinking
about like, well, what can I post? What can I do?
Even just like very early doors like buying the products

(46:35):
myself and I'm like quoting it and like posting up.
And I remember writing for Miss Magazine, which just like
a kid's magazine in the UK and not being a
big thing. I was so excited about it. I was like, wow,
Miss Magazine, and I wrote looks like blogs for them,
and they're like loads of brands with like semi stuff
and I remember it being like like literally nail polished,
and I was just so excited. And I think that

(46:56):
was probably the moment that I realized that hey, if
you like give, you get back in this world. And
then from there it's literally over time. Like I remember
my first kind of like little jobs for like a
little like high street brands. It was literally just they
were telling me what they wanted, and then I learned
so much from that. Okay, what sort of thing did
they want? So they wanted like just like wearing outfits

(47:19):
and it being color coordinated and like posted this certain
time and use these certain hashtags. But obviously this has
changed so much now, like all of most of my
revenues from TikTok now everybody wants me to be making TikTok.
So what you know, chatting about how I started is
very different from how you would start nowadays. Like if
I was telling anybody to start nowadays, I would just

(47:41):
get out there and post, get on a nice outfit,
stand in front of the wall, make a few I
G t v s, chat to your fans and your stories,
and and it will come organically because you have to
understand Instagram and social media. It's just your own reality TV.
You know, we're the world is addicted to the Kardashians.
Want to know what they're doing next. So serve us
your Kardashian on your Instagram. Serve us while you're eating

(48:04):
for breakfast service. What makes you laugh? I want to
be addicted to to your story? Huh. I know my
friend I still never do stories. And my friend who
my friend who did the intervention, the intervention on me,
thank you. She I'm like checking out just thinking about it.
She she I never do my stories, and she's like ardent.
If you don't do your stories, you're like a store

(48:26):
that's like has all these shelves that you're not putting
product out. There's different you're ignoring, like the main shelf,
and you've got to keep restocking the shelf. And I'm like,
I can't be I mean, I try, I try, I try.
I think you can. I honestly think you can. You're
very funny. I think every day you should be waking up,
we'll seeing a little story about even just maybe maybe

(48:47):
having coffee on your face, on your But that's what
Retta told us to We spoke to Htta, who is
just a icon't over here, but she said, and if
you look at her Instagram feat she posts something about
her coffee every single morning. She just takes a picture
of her coffee. You should look at it. See way,
I'm not doing my coffee. I'm not doing my I'm

(49:10):
such a night owl. So wait, you're telling me so
you were if you were doing an intervention on me
right now, you're like, arden girl, get on your stories.
And I have a funny cat. So I would every
day do like a video or like a live like
what help me, Talia? Help me? I have this room

(49:32):
if I am trying to if I want to fall
in love with a person, right I can, I need
to in my head to have like three things that
I know you're obsessed with. So in my head, I'm like,
what are your three things? So you know, if you
think of like I don't know if you think of
like I think probably the people be obsessed with are
very different. But there's like an influence in the UK.
Has got five million followers. I know every day she
has a Starbucks. I know every single day she's madly

(49:55):
love with a boyfriend and she has a dog. So
those three things, I think, Starbucks, boyfriend, dog, that's her. Okay,
So one are those three things that I can fall
in love with you over. If you love your cap, great,
let's get the cat up every day. Humming bird feeder.
I've got my hummingbird feeder. I mean, I still like
such a loser. I sound like I sound like such
a loser. It's like I try to avoid panic attacks.

(50:17):
I watch a lot of episodes of The Bachelor. I
like naps and peanut butter well. I mean, but that's good.
I love that. I mean I watched bridget In like
three times. That's that was my that was my lockdown.
I was beyond upsett. Did you post it on your story?
I posted it all over my story. It's pretty cool.
And do you feel Can we talk about TikTok? Yeah?

(50:37):
Tell us a bit talk about TikTok. Dollia So TikTok.
It's my favorite thing in the entire world. So be
up and so above Instagram. It's just I'm go on TikTok.
I'm not playing any character. I am Italian story, I
am fun. Let's just make the room feel great and
have fun. And this is why TikTok is my favorite
thing because there's no pressure on posting. If you want

(50:58):
to pull six videos a day, if you want to
post one video day, you can do it. Whereas Instagram,
you know what it's like, one post dares and so
you know, don't don't don't feed the beast. But TikTok
is content is king. So you can be funny, you
can be serious, you can do like green screens, you
can do be creative. I don't get how to edit.
I don't get how to do like I don't get

(51:18):
how to stand in the room and have all my
outfits change and then turn around and like shake my
booty and doing a fun little days like I don't
get the editing of it. Well, I really enjoy that
side of things because I really like getting creative and
I think even like I used to like edit like
the deals from my i G TV, But it just
wasn't fun. You know how to edit well funny enough.
I actually I actually do. I used to. I mean

(51:40):
I say used to. I just found a new music,
but when it was the first one I ever did that,
I'm not editing because I usually just do it on
Final Cup Pro. And I think because I knew, I
know so much that I'll often just edit them on
Final Cup pro so and it takes seconds, but it
is very easy to do it actually on the TikTok app.
It's just time consuming. But my point is there's a

(52:02):
there's a niche for those changes. And I would never
my advice to you as a you know what an
Instagram TikTok consultant would You don't need to do that.
I want to see you. I want like literally tame
second videos, maybe like telling a joke or something that
made you smile, something that will make me laugh, something relatable,
maybe even like I only guess I'm having coffee, I'm
having my cat. What was my life friend? I hashtag
lung time, like just something that will I can chuckle.

(52:24):
You can be my manager and your mom is your manager,
and then I'll just come in and live with your
family and and all of your stifles. Your sister can
style me, and I'll go get into a fight with
like one of the other housewives defending your mom, and
like they'll be like, who's this crazy upstar the throat water.
There's a stranger and a balloon sweater coming at me

(52:46):
with tossing a glass. It's the dumb deal. It's really god,
it's really really interesting. Did you does your mom? Did
your mom ever go do you really want to be
doing this influencing thing because she's a different generation obviously, No,
My mom has actually always very been like get up,

(53:07):
get out, and get it shared. If you've got something
to share it, then share it. And I think, um,
you know on my Instagram, But does go through stages
of this kind of aesthetic to this even like, um,
you know, when I was doing even when I was
doing sec dating in twenty whenever, that was my Instagram
very different then, just because I was having so much
fun and there was a different kind of side to
my life. So I think the main thing is don't

(53:29):
stress over what you're posting. Just do whatever you're doing
in that current time. Okay, final question, because it's constant contact.
Who takes all the pictures? Oh, my goodness, you are
I am hilarious with this. I really do have no chamber.
When I was filming storms dating sometimes it would be
like the Addison lead driver would be like, please, can
you just take one fo because I live alone and

(53:53):
in London, because my family are in Jersey. So it's
generally whatever is possible anybody that has a finger that
will touched the button on like I have a funny story.
I'll just diving because I know we're running out of time,
but here's my story. Yes, okay, On Bridgetain, I said
to my assistant, hey, could you just take a couple
of pictures from me on set? You know, because I

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don't have any. I mean, I look back through my career.
I've got so I've worked on so many big shows,
and I haven't got any pictures of me with all
these famous people that I've worked with. It's ridiculous. Anyway.
His name is Barnaby Bolton, so I don't know if
that name means anything now, but he took it and
he ran with it. So he is the main onset

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photographer and he had a twenty page spread in the
Daily Mail of his photographs and that all came from Yeah.
All came from me going, hey, can you just take
a couple of pictures? No way? Yeah? Yeah, if you look,
if you google. I mean he's got forty four thousand
followers on Instagram. Now, he's got a great name, Barnaby Bolton.

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I follow Barnaby Bolton. He's a great guy. Yeah, follow him.
He's going to have yes, the three. I just wrote
that down because I could enjoy some more bts with
Britain because I lived and bread it. So I'm going
to follow him straight after this again all of that content. Yes, yeah,
well wow, that's that's how that happened. Shall I ask

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our key question? Yes, milady, Yes, What advice would you
give your young self? Looking back? What advice would you
give your young son, a little tiny Talia? What would
you tell her? Oh my goodness, I think number one
would be. Although I'm we're talking about all the incredible things,

(55:40):
I'm very grateful for happening. There has been a lot
of like so many maybe so many, almost so many
like even when which we didn't even touch upon. When
I was fifteen, I did get a record deal, five
album world deal, Capitol Building flew me out, took six
months to sign sign the deal. Three weeks in my
A and R got sacked and we'd literally be in

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literally sorting to steal a lawyers, you know, setting up
American companies for literally six months and I we literally
got me stray out of the deal and that was it.
So I think younger self will be You're gonna do it,
You're gonna make it, love, but just enjoy every single moment.
Don't put a pressure on yourself, because I think although

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my strong point is that I'm so honored all the time,
I think the other side of me is like, just
like it's gonna be okay, Like relax, don't don't put
pressure on yourself. And I think I'm probably even just
going back to bully days, like don't let any of
that affect you. And I remember, even in the in
the lovely school that I was chatting about, there was
this one boy who really did not like me. And

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I'll never forget the day I was walking down the
stairs and threw a pen at me, and I remember
just being like, I remember being so I can't even
explain how sad I was, because I think it brought
back the memories of the first school. And I remember
just being like feeling so like I can't even explain it.
I was just like I felt like I was standing
on alone on the moon, like just floating. And I

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remember like literally going to my English class, putting in
my back and going straight down to like speak to
like whoever was like in charge of my year at
the time, because I just wanted to cry and run away.
But I think number one thing is do not let
these people affect you deep down. Number two, don't compare
yourself to anyone's journey. This is probably the main thing
I should have said immediately. I think when I was

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so younger, when I was younger, I always had this
idea of what pops I would be, I like writing songs,
getting a record deal, making it, you know, And I
think only even as every year I learned something new
and it's more detail as to you know, how these
people are made. And I think him, my, my journey
has been so incredible, so many ups and downs, but

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you know it's I can't compare my journey to anybody else's.
You know, if I had told their to note to me,
you're going to go into reality TV, You're gonna do
to top boot deal all these things. But and and
you're still still breaking through as a singer. Then I
probably would have been like, like, what I have not
had my record deal and my number one hit, so
I think number one. You cannot compare yourself, especially to
these you know, these incredible artists who have people sitting

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a desk creating their strategy. You know, So don't compare yourself.
Keep at it talking and everything's gonna be okay. Well,
Julianne and I talked a lot about the gift and
the magic of knowing what makes your tail wagon, building
your own boat, and I gotta say you certainly have
that in spades. And you're You're a brilliant You're a

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great singer. You're a great You're a great singer. You're
a great singer, and you're a lovely young woman. And
we thank you so much for from the middle of
the night or whatever time it is there. I don't
understand I don't understand time travel, guys, but we appreciate
you taking the time to chat with us, and I
couldn't wish you anymore. Soon does all the success in

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the world, I really, um, we're rooting for you, and
it was so nice chatting with you and Where can
people find you? What would you like to promote? Miss Talia, Well,
thank you so much for having me. This has been
so much fun. I have smiled the entire time. So
you can find me, um and just TikTok Instagram at

(59:13):
talian Storm. That's so great. Um you can follow, or
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My Heart or re ever get your podcast? Miss Julianne,

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where can people see these amazing behind the scenes photos
you had taken? Jib directory. I got excited every time
you post. I'm always like I love also seeing I
got excited seeing twelve year old Julianne. I like that.
That was a good that was a great post, just
like I just kept cross that picture. I thought, oh
my god, I look exactly. I mean obviously with added

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eight but I look the same. So I loved your character.
Did a good job on Instagram that day, Julianne, Miss
Anna dr Banana, Where can people find you? I'm just
at Anna hosting on Twitter. UM thank you so much
for our listeners. We appreciate all you. Please reach out,
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our marine. Until next time, goodbye, bye bye