"Family Style" (w/ Will Ferrell)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look man, oh I see you? Why why? Oh? And
look over there? How is that culture? Yes, goodness, culture's
calling and it's a moment for the pod. It's gonna
be a moment for the pod. Matt I think, um, well,
we've been sitting on this news for a while. I
would say, we've been sitting on it so much. Our

(00:23):
butts are, our little tushies are they're not? Well, okay,
let's just let's just like get down to like business
brass tacks with this business first. That's actually real culture
number sixties six. Business first. So the whole move to
my heart was sort of package to us, and we
were lured even the order, Lord, would you have the
unlot to the you, Matt, I would say, lured, Lord,

(00:46):
We were lured. And actually that's the way Lord the
singer pronounces her name now breaking as I'm getting that
in my ear. She wants to be known as Ludlord.
She's an artist's thing. Oh and it's so funny how
home louds in just that sort of dip thong valel
sound kind of relates to what our guests is promoting
right now anyway, right exactly, it really does, And and

(01:07):
that's part of the cultural crossover. Yes, And when I
say that, I take both my arms and I sort
of fold them over each other to sort of physicalize
them out. And this was the business that needed to
come first, by the way, for everyone, right, right, right,
So we're just saying that the whole the move to
my Heart was predicated on this lure that um our guests.
Let's just say there was a proverbial fishing hook because

(01:30):
the oh, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not familiar with fishing.
Um the line was cast. The line was cast, and
we being the fish, and we to varying degrees, we
both are fish because we are water signs astrologically, that's
right now, we bait the hook hook. Our guest was
starting a new podcast network with I Heart Radio. It's

(01:55):
called Big Money. Players were so happy, excited, honored to
be a part of the network work. Oh, we're thrilled.
And I have to say this was sort of this
was because you know that on this podcast we talked
about the culture that made us say culture was for us.
And it's actually interesting to have a guest that was
a part of the culture that I think for both
of us made us say culture was for us. Let's

(02:15):
just start off by saying you and I were both
high school intercommon announcers. My sign off lines, my sign
off lines treated off between have a good day in
a pleasant tomorrow, which is a weekend update, which is
ripped from Tina Fey, and it's theF well Chevy Chase
and it's def what you've done well. They they send
Jane Curtin, they said it in the in the first
did they? That wasn't it? Okay? Now I'm the one

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being a brought it back. But then my my other
sign off line, which was my sisters sign off line
when she did it was you stay classy Smoky Hill
and that's ripped. And that's ripped, and that's ripped from
our guests. Now, now what's your How is it formative
for you? You go go, well, let's just say that.
Um well, I'd actually rather tell this to the guests. Okay,
So so I I'd rather just first let me say

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so before this, but and I recorded a video trailer
for this podcast, thought Cultures, and I decided for that
video trailer to wear quote unquote a fun shirt. And
then I I was sort of volleying back and forth
with Bowen like, do I change out of my fun
shirt for the guests? And I realized I was nervous
and anticipated in the guest to that point where I

(03:20):
didn't know what shirt to wear. It like it was
a damn date or something. Because I want to represent
myself well, conservative but attractive, appealing, jumps off the screen,
but not obnoxious. These are the things we navigate. Oh
my goodness, And you had to tone yourself. You to
dial yourself back and code switching that I'm doing, you know.
But the thing about our guest is he I mean,

(03:42):
and and now you know, now it's sort of you've
sort of proved this out for yourself once you see him,
once you talk to him. It's a way. It all
amounts a way. He's not this. You know, a list,
he's not fast and a list now, yeah, he's not
fast and any list. You know, he's not down at
what's the cult the chateau, you know, sort of like
with his eyes down, like don't look at him like
he's very sort of you know, he's an approachable guy.

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And I feel that he's wearing the appropriate hat for
the moment. Yes, we'll talk about that. Let's just quickly
go through the credits. What are his credits? Where we
we know him from? Well, he was a cast member
on sn L for seven seasons. He Um co founded
beloved comedy outlet Funny or Die, has produced so many

(04:25):
wonderful works. He is founding Big Money Players Network, which
we're so happy to be a part of. And he's
promoting his new film Your a Vision Song Contest the
story of Fire Saga, which we have seen, which we
have seen. We'd love it. It's so funny, is a
goof aloof fest. We love it. And it's based on
of course your Vision, which is amongst the gayer things

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to happen in history. So we're very excited that there
is a film depicting the moment that is journal vision. Yes,
and so we're so excited to have the moment that
is our guest, welcome to your ears well fair, yes, yes,
Well tell everyone what you're wearing. What the hat you're wearing?

(05:08):
It that I am wearing a what appears to be
a Maga hat, the same font, uh, same red hat
with the white letters, but it says make America gay again,
and thank you. We need to make America gay again

(05:30):
again again. We need I I love that you know,
walking down the street could be a trumper and he
could look into your eyes and think there's one in me,
and then upon closer inspection, no, sir, here's the best thing.
I have worn this hat a couple of times, and
I would get so many looks from people who were like, wow,
he's actually wearing that hat, and then it would be

(05:53):
a double take once they saw what it actually said
so right, and then it just I got too many
of the the first round of looks, which were, uh,
please take that hat off, and so I stopped wearing it.
So this is fun to get to put it back
on again. Yeah, it's it's sort of um, it's a

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trick of the eye because upon first glance, I mean
I actually saw Bowen before he had to go all
the way up close to his computer to say that
he can't possibly be wearing and make America great again hat.
And then I saw the look of sheer delight in
his eyes once he realized the the the the humor.
I was incredulous at first, and I saw what the

(06:34):
wording was and then I and then I sighed, you
were sort of internally this Will Ferrell where, oh do
I know him? I don't think I do. And wait, okay,
I do. I do know him? Yea, I know this guy.
So I have to tell you, um, the one of
this is very exciting to have you on because not

(06:54):
not only just because you are you Will Ferrell and
icon to us, a hero to us comedically, but also
you kind of did enter my personal life in a
time I really needed help because it was ninth grade.
I think I was in I needed help bad. So
it was like ninth grade. I was like a gay teen, young,
gay closeted teen. And then I remember I wasn't fitting

(07:17):
in with like everyone in school and Anchorman came out,
and I remember going into school and everyone was quoting Anchorman.
It kind of became one of those movies wherever everyone
universally was loving it, and it actually did make me
fit in and make friends. The fact that I had
like a knowledge of that movie, Oh, that you could

(07:37):
kind of throw down some Anchorman specific quotes. Yeah, it
was kind of just like because that was that was
very much like a thing. I think it's like, oh,
we can all quote the same movies, we all have
the same cultural language. But that that entered my life
at a time when I was like, yeah, I needed that.
That's nice to hear, because that's that's not exactly what
was happening in the theater's initial because we were getting

(08:01):
stories from friends and family who were who I literally
had one of my best friends in college go to
see it opening weekend with his wife and another couple,
and the other couple just halfway through just were like,
We're out of here. We don't get this movie. I'm
so sorry. Yeah, just um. I remember Adam telling a

(08:23):
story of a friend of his calling calling him up,
saying he had gone to the to the theater ahead
of time. He was he was watching something else, He's not,
I'll watch the last ten minutes of Anchor Man. He
poked his head into uh and he watched. He literally
as during the end credits, he heard like a verbal

(08:43):
altercation between people in the theater. One person was like, well, Farrell,
I want my money back, and someone else was like,
shut up. That move was funny, and so it really was.
You know, when it first kind of came out, people
were like either absolutely loved it or or or just
thought I do not know what to make of this,
which is kind of a good place to be. It

(09:05):
sounds like a cop out to say this, but I
feel like that's how you know you've done something correctly.
It's interesting you say that, though, because I actually went.
I remember, okay, this is the story of how I
saw Anchor Man. My family and my cousins were all
going to Coney Not Coney Island, We're going to a
dorney park. So we were we lived in Long Island,
and we were all driving up to go to Dorney Park,

(09:26):
and we were so excited. I'm like, always, thank god,
you were not going to Coney No, no, we park.
It was a dorney park trip and those are those
are singular. So we were on our way to Dorney
Park and it was I couldn't have been more excited
because I was like, I'm I still am to this
day like a theme park person, and when this becomes
a therapy session in five minutes, will unpack it. Um.

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But I was so excited, and so we're all my
cousins to do roller coasters and like do the whole thing.
It downpoured the most in Pennsylvania history. It rained them.
I remember, like the the news was like, well, not
only is everything closed today, but it's raining more than
it ever has ever like kids days of ruined, especially
if you're going to Dorney Park and san um But anyway,

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so we were devastated. It wasn't even like, oh, let's
still go to the theme park. The lines will be
short now. So me and all my family, including my
little cousins, went to the movie theater and there was
Anchorman playing, and so he thought, what the heck we're
watching it? And me and my cousin, who were like
like thirteen fourteen, were dying laughing htorical because we we

(10:37):
didn't know really what it was gonna be. And then
it turned out to be truly so fucking funny. But
my mother did have to take my little cousin and
my sister out. They did leave because my mother was like,
I can't be talking whales vagina to my young daughter,
like what is this? And just like it was so
it was so jarring, And I think that's part of

(10:59):
why I loved Yeah, because I did not know what
it was going to be, which maybe speaks to what
you're saying, it's funny because we are having come from
SNL where you're obviously given uh some leeway as to
what you can kind of you know, present to the table.
But for the most part, there are a lot of
that that shows governed by a lot of rules. And

(11:19):
I think it was our expression of like, we're just
why does it have to follow this way at this time?
We just we're like, let's break every comedy rule we
can think of and and just have this be this reckless,
kind of joyous experience and kind of come back to
the ensemble comedy that you know, I kind of grew

(11:40):
up loving and and we just had as much fun
making that movie as we could, partly because I think
there was a real feeling of like they may just
shut us down. This may be the last time we
get to do this, so let's uh, let's just go
out with a bang. You you thought that that early
on that and you're in your post SNL career that
like this the end, well, just because you know, you

(12:03):
have to remember, like I think we got we had
written the script and it wasn't We just went out
with it, and I think we got like ten twelve
rejection like that, that movie just kept getting Uh, no
one really wanted to buy a a comedy about a
newsroom comedy. Uh, they just couldn't add up, you know,

(12:24):
they I don't think they saw how absurd it was
going to be, and you know what, you know that
cast was gonna kind of bring to it and things
like that. So we just when we finally got to
make it, we thought, oh, this is like we're playing
with the house's money here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
when you're talking about it's like you have to imagine
it wouldn't like pitch super well, you know what I mean,
like off the page, it doesn't feel like in the

(12:45):
studio would be like, yes, that is something that I
think it's we need that like um comedy about seventies
Anchorman like sort of navigating sexism right and throwing you know,
purpose littering, you know, things like that. But it really is,
like that's one of the reasons I love it so much,

(13:06):
is it really is about sort of like toxic masculinity
and like like it is like a it's a satire
of that taken all the way down the road. But
then like in recent years since that movie has come out,
you realize, like this, while it is a sort of
extreme caricature of that situation, it's actually really not dissimilar

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to the way that women would be treated spoken to.
I mean it's it's just really it holds up any
any sort of news person I've run into, as has said, Oh,
we've I know people exactly like Ron Burgundy, which is
funny and scary all at the same time. But yeah,
I mean it was while it was a silly move.

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I remember one of the worst reviews we got was
actually from the San Diego local paper and they they
were like, we're very disappoint waited in this movie. It
really really had an opportunity to say something and it
just it just missed the mark. And uh. But you know, conversely,
like the Guardian, a lot of the British papers, they

(14:12):
totally got what we're doing and they were like, this
is this is great satire. I'm wondering what I mean,
you and Adam writing it after us and now having
that mindset of let's break every rule because we have
been so used to like a pretty stringent environment, Like
was that did you guys? Were you guys aware of
that as you were both finishing up your ten years there,

(14:33):
Because I feel like once you're I don't know, not
to make it sound like this, watch it, watch it.
What I'm saying like working there, when you work, when
you work there you sort of like sort of like
abide by all the rules and you have to. And
I feel like, did you guys like intentionally bring that
with you once you guys left I that mindset? That's

(14:56):
a really good question. I think it was probably probably
I think it was still probably more subconscious, but yeah,
there was there was a feeling of of being sick
of the rules and quotes of common and why can't
we punt a dog off a bridge and have it

(15:18):
come back to life and save us from grizzly bears? Why?
Because if if I pitched that, uh, someone's gonna someone's
gonna laugh politely and then leave the room and go
that that's the worst I ever heard. So I think
it was probably an extension of both of them, you know,

(15:38):
both of of just executing that idea and wanting to
do something crazy and then also just uh yeah, wanting
wanting to kind of get away from something that has
such a form that it sticks to, right. Yeah. I
think that's something that Bowen and I respond to, like
and that when we whenever we're together and like we're
really laughing at something, we laugh at something because it

(15:59):
is so stupid, bid like and that's that's just our
funer together. And I think that's what's something I recognized
in it, like, um, from a very early age. Like
even like if you watch like the sort of outtakes,
I prefer to call them bloopers. I think bloopers is
the funniest word in the industry. I want to call
them bloopers, and actually, really culture number one hundred, they're

(16:21):
not outtakes, their bloopers, they're not They're bloopers, and they
can be shortened to bloops. Shortened bloops. Yeah, that's yes,
we'll add an addendum onto the rule. But we have
people that that do that. Um. So, like there was
a scene where like you're in the car with Christina Applegate, who,

(16:41):
by the way, is our queen, and she's so incredible
and oh my god, she's so amazing in that movie.
But there's a scene where you are doing the Whales
Regina san Diego thing to her in the car and
you start breaking down laughing and you say, it's just
so stupid. Yeah, this is so stupid. Yeah, And that's
that is I think something at gets a little lost nowadays,

(17:03):
which I think is sort of uh having a resurgence
or I hope it is because I almost feel like
or I'm hopeful that that we can return to sort
of like really going for the joke, big characters, Like
comedy is supposed to be funny, you know what I mean?
Like right right, yeah, that that was just, uh, you know,
the realization of of the moment that these stupid lines

(17:28):
that we'd written in a room in a in a
vacuum we now had there. We were parked on a
bluff in the middle of the night with a crew
of fifty people having to film this moment and you're
getting paid for it, and it's, uh, yeah, it's kind
of like, oh, this is you know, if I don't

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ever get to do another thing again, I'll be good.
Yeah you know yeah, speaking of um, speaking of stupidity,
I would say or just like, um, a big budget comedy,
which I feel like is as a concept is like
waning from Hollywood. Right now. Um, let's talk about your
revision song contest the Story of Fire Saga. Do you

(18:11):
like that concise title? By the way, I love the title.
I love that, but that it's it's for that same reason.
It's like that's why we love Ricky Bobby. That's so
funny though, like a title should be titles should be
like fucking Fiona Apple album titles, like they go on
and on and on. Like the fact that it's such
an epic title I think only helps. That matters. So

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I love it. It communicates something to the audience. You're like, Okay,
I know what I'm in for. This is gonna be
the entire paragraph. It's so fun. Okay, So I so,
but I was talking about about this before we started
recording over text. I was like, oh yeah, like I
can't remember. Maybe it's just because I have a million
blind spots with this, but I'm like, when was the
last like big budget comedy that like I've seen with

(18:56):
like international stars and like it's about and like it
just very It felt like a nice like comedy Frozen
and Amber kind of thing from like early to mid
odds where it's like, oh, yes, like I enjoyed this
kind of movie very very much. Um So was that
like was that kind of what you and because you
and Andrew were going to Andrew Steel, We're going to

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your vision to like like figure out a story around
this or like like like what was the sea crystal
behind him? Yeah? I mean the crazy The crazy journey
of this is that so I uh, my wife Vivica
is Swedish. We've been going to Sweden uh for twenty
years every summer. Um. In fact, this summer will be

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the first summer we haven't gotten to go. And that
first trip we went, we were with her cousin and
we were out. They had like a little cabin in
the country that we were out picking mushrooms, you know,
with rubber boots on, as you would do in Sweden.
It's right. And this is a good film. By the way,
have you written this down that this is the is

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a really good this is a good film. There's a
feature in that. Um. So she just uh we had
dinner and she's like, oh, shall we sit down and
watch Eurovision And we're like, um, yes, of course, and
we It happened to be the night of the finale

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because there's there's two semi final nights for for your listeners,
and then there's a final final night and we watched.
We sat there for three hours and watched the It's
a whole thing because the last twenty acts or so
they do their performance, then they have some special guests
and then they tabulated all the votes and each country

(20:44):
does this whole series of voting and it builds this tension.
But I was sitting there going, what is going on
is in um? And it's even gotten over the years
a little more um. You know, everyone pretty much things
in English now, and the acts are are kind of

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you know, they're really trying to get played on the radio,
and yet there's still some just amazing moments between the staging,
the costumes. And so I was watching this, you know,
twenty years ago, going oh, this this has to be
a movie, and so that's going to make it and
no one ever did. I kept waiting to like, you know, reado.

(21:27):
Someone so finally made a comedy about your vision. And
it wasn't until yeah, four or five years ago that
I called up Andrew Steele, former SNL writer, and I
was like, Andrew, you gotta check this thing I'll called
your Vision. I've always wanted to make a movie. I
don't I'm not I'm not doing anything right now in
this moment of time. Let's fly out there. And so
we flew out to Copenhagen and that was the year

(21:48):
that con Cheeta versed watching for Austria and so we
we got to see it, you know, in its entirety
there and I was with Andrew and our producer Jessica album,
and I was like, do you guys see what I'm
I'm talking about here? And so yeah, and then from
that point on, that's when we sat down with the

(22:10):
Eurovision people and said, would would you let us make
a movie? Yeah? And what? But what was their response
because you have to imagine, like there's been nothing about it,
so this would be the first thing. It was, Um,
I think it was very it was very European. It
was well, we don't really need the publicity. We get

(22:31):
like two million viewers every year. Uh and uh. And
I said, you know, obviously be a comedy, but I
think would we'd be making fun but it is also
an homage and with love at the same time for
the process. And they were like, yeah, I don't see
why not and and that was kind of the agreement.

(22:53):
And then they let us kind of yeah, it's interesting
that you say that, like it's a comedy, but it's
also it is also an homage because something about the
movie that I didn't expect is it is actually a
very sweet movie, you know what I mean, Like it's
it's way sweeter than we then we really set out
to make it, and then we we really we started
uh um really kind of digging in deeper and making

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it about a relationship between uh these two these two friends,
uh and and you know what the music means to
them and in terms of the competition and listening to
each other and things like that. It is surprisingly sweet
in a way that um in the final song that
Rachel's character sings. Uh. There I was at every single

(23:38):
test screening. I'm in the back of the theater crying,
uh kind of with how sweet the song is. I feel,
And it's actually a really good song. And then every
time I I would watch that moment, I just would
think about, Gosh, I can't believe we finally made this movie.
And um, anyway, all of those things kind of kind

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or interwoven when I watched that moment, it's it's really
love Like, Okay, we should say, um. Your co stars
are Rachel McAdams, Dan Stevens, Pierce Brosn, and Demi Levado.
Demi Levado has fun moment. We endorsed Demi Levado on
this podcast. This is a podcast that loves endorses and
as the kids say, stands Demi Levado and something explosive

(24:20):
happens with her character. We love her. What's what's she like?
She was fantastic. I mean that was you know. David Dopkin,
our director, kind of has all these ties to the
music world because he's still uh does a lot of
music videos. And he was like, I think we can
get Demi to to play this role. And she was
so sweet and lovely and it was she was actually

(24:42):
shooting during her birthday. We kind of had this really
special moment where and and she had just come out
of her last for or rehab. Stant Yes, I really
wanted to work on this because I'm a fan, and
I go, you're so sweet. We can't believe you're doing this.
We just can't believe. And she said, but I have

(25:04):
to tell you, like watching your movies really kind of
helped me kind of go through what I had to
go through. And it's weird when you get hit in
the chest with something like that and it's uh and
it's so personal to her and uh, it was one
of the sweetest things ever. And I was like, and
now you're gonna do this crazy character in this movie

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and she's like, I don't get to do things like this.
So it was it was really kind of beautiful and
she just was she was up for anything. And the
thing that struck us too was, uh, you forget that.
Oh my god, she is a she's an absolute pro. Yeah,
she's well, she's one of those kids like she was

(25:47):
like a Barney girl, you know what I mean. Like
she's been doing it since the jump. She hits the stage,
she knows exactly where the camera is, she's turning perfectly. Yeah,
she's a pop star. Oh my gosh, Stone Cole pro Yeah,
and would do like three takes and like, oh my god,
I don't know what else you're gonna do. And she

(26:07):
sounds unbelievable on the track that she sings like it's
just great. It's really cool. Um. But you mentioned like
just the behavior of a pop star on stage, and
actually that was something that I really really picking up
on during it. Like obviously Eurovision is a very European
show and the prop stars are very European, um, and
so there is like this element of like whimsy to everything,

(26:31):
and it's something that I love. It's like it's like
pop music taken all the way to that pop place,
like it is they're truly playing characters on Maximal Music.
So did you like sort of observe a lot of
a lot of performances. I would imagine that you've like
probably seen years going back. But did you and Rachel,
who also I would say, really embodied a pop star

(26:51):
on stage during their performances, Um, did you what did
you do for that? Yeah? We, I mean Andrew and
I we we we we attended three of them in person,
and just yeah, watching everything we forget because because we
have American idol, we have the voice, we have these
habitual kind of things that are happening all the time,

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and and the US is kind of the epicenter of
pop music culture in so many ways. For this for
your vision there, it's it's forty seven countries and some
of the countries are so small and you know, might
be thousand people if that, And this is this moment

(27:34):
for them to get in front of fifty thousand people
in a worldwide audience, and you can tell it means
so much the moment, and they just don't have the
same platforms that I think we all take for granted,
whether it be the UK or over here. That's one
of the things you know, obviously we observed the funny

(27:56):
or interesting or kitchener how do we want to describe it?
Costumes and you know, uh, when we were in Tel Aviv,
I believe, which is where we shot a lot of
the crowd stuff. You know, one of the acts is
a guy. I couldn't figure out what the camera angle
was this guy singing and it looked like he was
kind of upside down and then he's being raised up

(28:18):
and he's a full vampire coming out of a flaming
grand piano. And uh, I was like, wow that they
thought of this, built it, they can They talked about it,
there was meeting and they pulled it off. And I
don't know that that kind of European style and flare

(28:42):
is just a whole another thing to comment on. It's
truly crazy, like to the well I want it's a spoiler,
but insane things happen on stage while you and Rachel
are performing, and like it's almost like you the audience
believe the insanity, like that could be part of the performance.
Like I seem crazier things in your revision than like

(29:02):
an actual disastrous thing happening as a plot point in
this movie. Like that is like what goes down because
it's it serves the comedy very well, especially in the
physical ways, or especially in like the slap sticky ways.
Like and I would say, well that this is I
think your your gayest film, your queerest film, Matt, would
you would you agree? I would have to agree, yes, yes,

(29:25):
And like there's there's, there's there's would you would put
it above Blades of Glory? Blades of Glory is Blades
of Glory is your most incestuous film. I feel like
I love of Glory. I feel Blades of Glory is
up there for me because it really again about something

(29:45):
super specific, super fun characters, big jokes, and also like
I fucking love Amy Poehler and Will Arnett. Yeah that
is the strang and fair child. She's like blowing out
the guns, like, well, I don't know, it's just so fun,
so stupid. I wanted to I wanted to ask, like,
so we as a podcast have our on record for

(30:07):
saying that Rachel McAdams deserved an Oscar for mean Girls.
So this is like a podcast that has for many
years wanted to see her return to like a big
comedy like this, and then it's so fun to see
her return to big comedy like this, because she has
become such a movie star and you know, that's kind
of just what happened after Mean Girls, and she's sure
she's done comedy, but to see her play a character

(30:27):
is fun. What's your experience with her? And please spare
no detail. We love Rachel, I mean Rachel. Yeah, she
you kind of forget, just like you said, She's probably
known more for the notebook and the serious actress and
that sort of thing, but she is so committed and
funny and specific and even to the point of singing

(30:52):
with a specific Iceland accent. And because we are fire,
saga is from Iceland. Yes, your readers, it's you're the readers, right,
thank you, right um. But she I think she was

(31:12):
a little bit like, oh, here we go. I haven't
been on the ship in a while. But then she
just she just dove right in and she's funny. She's
funny and so lovable to look at that she kind
of gives my character, Lars, you know, the the weight

(31:33):
behind it, because she's willing to go on his journey
with him, and and she brings such sincerity to how
much she loves this guy with this dream that you know,
he's tried twenty something years now to get in and
and and so it it allows you to believe in
my story and our story collectively. We had the best time.

(31:56):
I mean, she's all hands on deck, she's got kid
and a partner, and so I didn't get to see
her that much. I was out partying in London. She
could not answer the bell. No come on, she got
come on, waitchil come on, We're going to party. Also,

(32:16):
not for nothing, but I went. I went to Stockholm.
This is a couple of years ago, but we did,
like for the first Europe for the first time, we
landed in Stockholm. We were going to Amsterdam, but we
still had like a day and a half to spend
in Stockholm and such such a fun city. And also
we did go to the Pop Music Hall of Fame,
which I've talked about a little bit on this podcast,
but it's essentially like an Abba Hall of Fame, but

(32:39):
pop music Hall of Fame. But there's like, have you've
definitely been, I've been to the Abba exactly the euro
it's like a whole Eurovision section and you can watch
all the performances, and that I think was my first
experience with it. Like this is crazy, like finding out
that Celine Dion was in it. Sure truly, Like it's
like there's such such a deep well of pop music

(33:01):
history that I think Americans don't really know about that
is euro Vision, but it's it's an institution. Yeah yeah, yeah,
it's um um and which is which is why um
it's interesting something that's so viewed there. We don't really
we don't really know that much about it over here exactly.

(33:21):
It's so weird until two weeks from now, and then oh,
America will know whether whether they want to or not,
whether they want to or not. I do love I
do love the idea that you will Ferrell are the
ambassador for your vision. It's too good. It's perfect. Also
that I do want to I do want to say
that I have a deep appreciation for the fact that

(33:43):
the Dan Stevens character in this film is like a
baritone pop singer, because that is like, that is something
that is a very prevalent thing in euro Vision and
around the world. Is like, yeah, you men who are
singing like this, we don't really have that here. No,
it's all tenors. Yeah right, so guy, super super high voices. No,
he is he is all man and very sexualized and big, big,

(34:10):
deep powerful baritone. Yeah he is, he is there. He
is a masculine singing with his song Lion of Love,
Lion of Love, which had amazing I don't know when
you guys watched the movie if you noticed the video
screen behind the performances has amazing graphics lions and and

(34:33):
Paula's and animals from the from the African tundra jumping
behind his performance. The animal Kingdom is very much pleasant,
very much so. Um you guys try and wear like
Glasgow and and Edinburgh and like Iceland. You guys were
in Iceland. We actually were in Iceland for the last

(34:54):
four days. But yeah, we were in London and Scotland
and then uh ice Land for the last four days,
which was kind of amazing. We were literally in this
town of Housavic, where our characters are from. And I
think we could have found a place that looked similar
to a small town that would have been just twenty

(35:14):
miles out of Raakovic. Yeah, but instead we're four hours
away that and all the Icelandic actors I would talk
to that be like what you're actually shooting in Housavic.
I was like, yeah, isn't that great? Were like, why
there's nothing there. There's two restaurants, one hotel, and uh

(35:34):
so here we were. This big movie crew kind of
took over this small, little little town which had an
amazing Uh have you guys been to Iceland? It was
my first time, never know, but I've always wanted to go.
It's like sort of become like a very popular vacation
destination in the past couple of years. I've seen a
lot of install photos from there. These hot springs. Yeah,
this small town of maybe ten thousand people had this

(35:57):
incredible hot spring complex of the top of the hill.
Um so everyone would after shooting go up and have
a beer in the hot spring. Unbelievable that sounds. I
was literally I was wondering, like this Iceland, there is
this movie magic, because you know, they could do amazing
things in Hollywood. This movie magic. They can make you
believe anywhere in the world. We were. We were limping

(36:18):
to the finish line a little bit on the movie
because I went into my trailer and all of a sudden,
someone just came in and she starts. There was no knock,
It just burst into the trailer and uh, there's just
she starts putting a piece of paper on on the
bathroom door of my trailer. I'm like, oh, hello, She's

(36:41):
like hello, just keeps working of like, uh, can I
can I help you? And he's like, yes, you cannot
use your bathroom and uh and it's starting. This is
in October, so it's starting to get I don't think
it's cold for them, but it was cold for me.
Um And I'm like, oh, why like just for like

(37:03):
the next hour or like no, for the whole time.
I go can I ask why? She's like, well, we
the pipes will freeze. We can't so oh okay, so
but she said, but don't worry. There's a porta potty
that's you guys can share over here. And so I

(37:26):
didn't worry. I didn't understand. I didn't understand what was happening,
because I know they make a lot of movies in
Iceland now, but for some reason we could yeah, exactly
Hollywood or so. I think that meant that someone didn't
want to stay up all night long and run the heater.
Pipes don't freeze. And I think the toilets are unionized

(37:52):
in Iceland. I think that's what that's what the deal
is that's a huge that's a very strong union, big
union movie toilets. That has to be. Um. Okay, so
you finished shooting that in October and then you I
really before we asked the question, and to cut to
a break, I do want to ask or talk about
the sketch, which I think has taken on this weird

(38:12):
life of its own. Um. But well, you came and
hosted an November of this past season. It was highlight
for me and highlight for everybody there. We were so
excited that you were back. We did the sketch, a
dress rehearsal called cast list, and then it got cut
for time. But it's it's sort of has had it's
a weird like little at a moment online. It was

(38:33):
cut for time, but it was it was it was
where you were the drama teacher and then well we
were all the kids waiting for the cast. Did you
help write that or no? No, that was that was
Streeter and Mikey Streeter side and god, I love that sketch.
I looked it up last night just to put for
this interview, and I was just like, let's just like
relive this and watch it. But then in my YouTube search.
More like there's at least one video out there of

(38:54):
an actual drama club out of high school like doing
a line for line re enact smith of the sketch,
adding their own details in there. But like, I feel
like this is like part of like that little subculture
now of like actual high school drama departments who like
watch that sketch and are like, oh, this is so real,
because that was the response. Everyone's like, this is so accurate,

(39:16):
and and it was just kind of a collection of
of stereotypical memories, memories of of drama types. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Oh my god. That's well, that's I mean, I guess
that's the good and bad part about the show is
that things cut for time now have this second life.

(39:37):
Um where in my in my day it was when
it's cut for time, it was just it was just gone.
You had to mourn it. You maybe would hopefully get
to bring it back. But I I probably I yeah,
I probably had as many people reacting to that as
anything that was on the actual show. That Yeah, that's

(39:59):
how do you guys feel about when stuff gets put online?
Would you rather have it have a second life on
the real show or oh that's a good question. Um,
I it depends. So for me, when it's when something
gets cut for time that can't really be recreated with
another host, I would say then, like that's when I've
only had to do that once. And that was when

(40:19):
RuPaul hosted in February and we he and I had
a sketch that was cut for time, and I was like,
I'm not gonna be able to do this with another host,
like she's like, and the fact that things are consumed
in so many different ways, it's not totally exactly and
like a lot of people are watching it the next
morning anyway. Um, but yeah, like I hadn't really and
and this is the myopic of me for not thinking that,
like oh yeah before YouTube, like you know, just we're gone, Yeah, yeah,

(40:44):
you're just How great is RuPaul? By the way, so
great are you? Interviewed him for Burgundy and we were
just blown away at how smart the guy. The guy
is so smart, he's kind of talk about anything. Yeah,
he really has. He's incredible. My school dropout, right, So
that's why I've been telling all like you, all the

(41:06):
readers that listen to this, everyone's got to drop out
of high school. This is what I keep you got.
That's the new that's the new movement. That's my big initiative,
and actually that we should make. We should say right
now the title of this episode is dropped out of
high school kids. Um. So just as we get that
message out there straight away, I always feel like whenever
did you tell me something is cut bowing it it

(41:26):
always and it appears online the next day. I think
that another thing we have to remember is not everyone
is watching it at Saturday night anyway, and so it's
like for them, for anyone, it's just like another SNL sketch.
You know, they're just consuming piecemeal and granularly. Anyway, did
the did the peaka boo jeans? Did that air on

(41:48):
the on air? Or was that cut for Was that later?
That also got cut for time? And I was very
sad about it. Yes, they were out to get you
that week, Bow and Yang. I didn't get any on
um I did. I did get to um stand next
to Will. Will was playing Tom Styer. I was playing
indury ing Um and my my terrible terrible injurying. But

(42:10):
then um but in this peakaboo, this rerangular peakaboose sketch
written by um Alex Moffatt Will Stephen. Um. I was
so excited because I there was a moment where you
and I Will had to walk down this bar, but
we just and we had bump butts and our our
ass cracks were showing, and I was like, I can't
believe I get to like, did your butt crack touch

(42:31):
touch his book cracks in touch? But yeah, it got
it got pretty close. It got close. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
but there wasn't. I was like, I can't believe I
get to air my asshole with Will and I got
to uh to hip check a jukebox with my rengular peekaboos.
Did that hurt? No? Not really. It was just like, hey,

(42:53):
what if I walked over here and gave the jukebox
a little, a little, a little how do you do?
And uh? And that stayed in the commercial. That's your
Your instincts are always perfect. Okay, let's no, no, not
one thing, which is that I can't believe that we
have not spoken about the sort of the sketch that

(43:15):
you did with Cecily, which was the sort of reality
show Bravo type thing James Anderson, and it also made
me think of the sketch called when you saying call
me a boy. Dot night that one years ago, like
the cabaret what was it called? It was Kristen Wig
and Bill were hosting like a jazz night. Oh I

(43:35):
should know this James Anderson, that guy, he's a legend. Yeah.
I actually listened to your guy's show with James. Uh,
and it's so funny to hear him be interviewed. Yeah,
well he's the best. We so you know, like we
we came to visit Sudi Sudie Green, who's one of

(43:56):
the writing supervisors, and we were upstairs. Eyes met yeah,
and we met him and it was it was like
one of those moments though, because that was another thing
like around the same time, the same kind of people
I was connecting with in high school over Anchorman also
loved the sketches that we would later find out he
was writing almost all of them, and so that was

(44:17):
like a true moment, like he is he is amazing, No,
And that was that was such a fun thing because
I would just remember, oh, this is Paula Pell's friend
James come by and then wait, James is now writing
great and uh, but it's crazy that he's been writing
for twenty years Yeah, he's a he's a hit machine
head factory. Okay, we'll take a quick break and we'll

(44:38):
be right back with Will. We'll ask the question. Okay,
and we're back with Will. Matt, why don't you ask
the questions? So here's the question that we've been alluding to,
and it is the moment that we're going to ask it.
So this is we're going to ask you, Will Ferrell,

(44:58):
what was the culture that made you say? Culture is
for me now to sort of boil this down, it's
just defining pop culture. It could be something you saw
as you were becoming you that sort of helped define
how you did become you. Oh my gosh. Um, you know, well,

(45:19):
there's probably a bunch of different answers. Okay, you mentioned, though, Matt,
theme parks, your love of theme parks. Okay, I'm gonna
e brace myself now. Okay. So, growing up in Orange County, California,
in the mean streets of Irvine, Um, which which is

(45:39):
Jason to Anaheim, home of Disneyland. So I grew up
going to Disneyland probably two to three times a year.
And in thinking about, um, this this actual question, Disneyland
was a huge that was a huge part of my life.

(45:59):
Think about amazing to hear. And I remember being five
years old and thinking at my first thought of, uh,
this is what I want to do with my life.
I came, but it wasn't being entertainment my my job
that I pictured in my little kid head. I wanted
to be a character, so that I wanted to dress

(46:21):
up as Goofy, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse and just walk
around the park. And I was, I was. I was
thought that would be the most joy filled experience to
get to, even though I have no no consideration what's
for for temperature control or break time especially then, or

(46:43):
the fact that you don't get to say a word,
you just have to you are a silent human form.
But I was in love with those with that kind
of uh kind of watching, that kind of connection between
the meat and green experience. Yeah, exactly, And I remember
thinking that that those were probably the first seeds of

(47:08):
wanting to entertain. We're planted with our annual biennual you know,
three times a year forre lucky trips to Disneyland, which,
by the way, trips to Disneyland started with tears and
ended with tears because they're so damn tired, but tears
of anticipation of not being able to sleep the night

(47:28):
before going Tomorrow's the day we are gonna nothing like
waking up on that morning. Nothing like waking up and
nothing like I remember getting in the most ridiculous arguments
with my brother about which rides we've got to go
on first, And you know, the impulse is to go
on matter Mount. You knows Matterhorn, Matterhorn right out of

(47:49):
the game. I'm like, no, you gotta save it. You
can't do Matterhorn right away. We got to start with
the teacups and work our way up. And he's like,
why would we do the teacup They're terrible? Um, but
having fights about that and then before you know it,
moms saying one more ride and we're like, and we're
out what And it's tears and you've let go of

(48:11):
your helium balloon as you see it drift off into
the parking lot. So that's like a huge thing. Yeah,
I have to say I'm I'm more of your brother
type because I'm the kind of person, especially the way
that they do it now where it's like with the
fast pass of it all, where it's like you have
to kind of get a reservation to do these rides,
and if you don't get one, it's gonna run out

(48:32):
for the rest of the day. So you kind of
got to do that stuff early. That meet and great
experience that you that you describe, it's on a whole
other level now, especially in the past couple of years
as some of the movies have really popped off, Like
talking about Frozen. We went to Epcot one time and
obviously there's no kids in my and my family and

(48:52):
I don't really care about the meeting experience at this point,
but um, it was like the line to meet Elsa
was longer than any attraction line, Like it was like
a four hour imagine, I thought to myself, like, imagine
being a parent and you this is what you really
have to be a selfless person to be a parent
in Disney. But like standing in line for I'm not

(49:15):
kidding you four hours to meet a woman who is
dressed up as a character to get this experience for
your kid. But but the little girls you could see
it meant so much to exactly exactly, Yeah, it's pretty cool.
And then and then I, um, my dad. My dad's
a musician and played for years on and off with

(49:39):
the Righteous Brothers, and there were summers where they performed
at Disneyland. Uh. And so that was like a magical experience.
They have like the Tomorrowland stage which rises up out
of the center of the earth like it does in
the future, like like stage as well in the future
we should say. Uh. And I was like, Oh my god,
this is incredible. They had this like in Disney World.

(50:02):
They have it's called the Starlight Cafe. I think it's
called the Starlight Cafe where they have this like I've
never been to disney World, by the way, Oh you
must go. It's I mean, it's like Disneyland on true
Like it's like it's an acid it's like fully exploded.
It's ten thousand times bigger. It's like it's really a
little overwhelming and a little bit kind of scary how

(50:23):
big it is and what an expedition it is. But
it's something you should go at least once. But they
have this like alien playing the piano and sort of
like doing like a like sort of cabaret like sort
of thing while you eat your like fast food. And
I used to think it was the coolest thing ever
that they had an alien doing that. I was like,
that's such a good touch to get the alien coming

(50:44):
in the alien going. It was a full animatronic But Bowen,
do you did you have a family pilgrimage to do
to any of the Disney parks? We did. We um
understood the significance of Disney, So we nine d nine
when we we went and so um, but it was

(51:04):
a thing where and this was a too built up
It was not too built up. And I remember, I remember,
I remember remember even as like a nine year old
leaving and being like the succeed in my expectations, which
which never happens as a child, I thought this was
strictly like an immigrant thing. But I think this is
just like if you're middle class. Um. But we couldn't

(51:26):
eat in the park. We had to bring our sandwiches
into the park. I was talking like buying a commemorative
cup was a huge yes, huge deal and like my
sister and I would use all our powers of persuasion
to like get at universal um cup Jurassic Park with

(51:47):
a t Rex head like that was like the prize
that was yes, yes that was what you that was
what you like went there for. So you could theoretically
bring the cup home and bring it to school and
like show your friends. Yeah, it is all about the cup.
And remember the thing that they did to sell the
cup was to tell you this is a cup that
you can keep refilling. It was like, this is a

(52:08):
special cup. You know, these other cups, these other young girls,
you can't reveal them. This one you can fill back
up with any refreshment of your job. I almost I
almost worked there one summer in college and went through
the orientation and everything and um uh, only to not
show up for my first day of boy and because

(52:30):
I wanted to be one of the jungle cruise guys,
you know with the you know, so happy you brought
this up, with the jokes and the whole banter and
the I was like, I can do that. I could
nail that. And I didn't realize that that's one of
those jobs. You have to work there ten years at
the park to get those. And it's like a whole
audition process, hierarchy, it's the whole thing. And did you know,

(52:53):
speaking of things, you but when you walk down Main
Street the candy stores, they pump the scent of vanilla
out into the streets. Oh, it's a huge It's everything
about it is planned out. So I got a little
peek behind the curtain. I didn't like it as much
as when I was a kid. Well, I mean, if
you peek behind the curtain there, you're not gonna like

(53:14):
a lot of what's happening. I mean, those workers are
under paid. Let's flat outside that right now. It's a
rule of culture number those words under But this is
the thing about Disneyland, I think, and even let's say
Universal Studios or like not Sperry Farm, but like l
A or in the in the southern California area, like

(53:35):
Will talking about his dad playing gigs at Disneyland on
the Tomorrowland stage, I'm like, I don't know if this
does this track. It's like in New York you get
like a bunch of performance venues and like growing up there,
you get to like whatever, like engage with live performance
as much as you want and whatever what you want.
But I feel like in California it's like you go

(53:55):
to see the theater in l A. But like that's
not like what l A is known for, Like no,
you totally Disney And then you see street performers where
you see like people just performing live or even if
they're just like slinging jokes at the Jungle Cruise. No,
that was and and not s Very Farm. Another another
kind of watching performance moment they had Well, I don't

(54:19):
I'm I'm older than you guys, but I don't know
if you guys remember the song Convoy. We got a
great old Convoy trucking on down the line. It was
a song I love it. I just want to stop
everything and say I love that. That's my favorite song.
The guy's whole stick was he was it was music
for truckers and he had this number one hit. God,
we got a great old Convoy. It. He was performing

(54:43):
at not Spury Farm, and I said, I said to
my dad, like I gotta go see the show. I
just gotta go. And so I sat there alone as
a kid and watch and then found my I gave
my gave him a standing ovation like with of course
you did. Was like it was a damn good show. Yeah,
because they're great. That's the thing about those people that

(55:04):
performed is that they're great. And and a lot of
people that I know, um, you know they worked at
Disneyland or you know. I now that we now that
people have listened to this podcast and they know that
I like Junior World so much and and I actually
let them know when we're gonna be there. We've met
a bunch of people that performed there and they're awesome.
And um, it's funny that you bring up the Jungle

(55:26):
Cruise Skipper because you want to know when I was young,
my and Bowen knows this because I did a whole
show about it when we were in New York. Um,
I wanted to be a Universal Studios the Jaws ride.
The guy who was on the boat, like the skipper
of the Jaws, skipper who is like We're doing a
tour of amity and this I know every word. I'm

(55:49):
literally off book on it, not right now, but in
theory I am. And of course Jaws attacks the boat
and he has to kind of be like oh no,
and fire a grenade launcher at like fake sharks and
like you know, react to everything. But that was my
whole dream for years, as I wanted when I was
a little I wanted to move there and be that,
and then years later I was. I did it as

(56:10):
a bit on stage where Bowen played the shark. Bowen
played the shark and I was the skipper, and I
would just be wildly shooting, and we would take members
for the audience and we put them on the boat
in the stage and that would be the stipper and
Bowen would come out at different points and you see
be Chelsea and attack the boat. Inch in shark costume?
Do you have like a minimal shark costume? Very minimal

(56:31):
shark costume. But I mean it was all in the performance.
It was all in the vocal placement of you know,
you're screaming shark. But it was me. I played Jaws,
but I had inherited the role from writer from and Dressen,
who writes SNL now and A. Dressen was the first
shark when I did it at the People's Improv Theater
and she, I guess, was was too busy to play
the shark, and Bowen actually stepped in as the shark

(56:53):
and I played our friend Dave Mazzoni played the fire
and Anna got the boot and got never to play
the shark again. Now, yeah, and she's actually not doing well. Now,
She's really not doing well. Now when she looks back,
she knows what she where she made her mistake, that
she made her mistake there. But Bowen was an amazing
shark place I don't know if you know this about Bowen,

(57:15):
but he's an amazing performer, and he's explosive. He's so explosive. Yes, yeah,
he comes the way he would scream at the at
the at the audience members, he was very scary. Well,
I'm sure they're not expecting it from Bowen, who seems calm,
cool and collected, and the next thing, you know, shark attack. Yeah,

(57:37):
there were really many times where I felt he was,
you know, endangering the people on stage. Would you just
vocalize what you felt like a sharks that sound like
or would you just say shark attack? Well, this is
the thing. When Matt says he's off book, he's he's
not only off book, but he's synchronized to the actual
track that plays. That's impressive on the vehicle. So he

(57:58):
would play the track at U C b um and
it would I would have to synchronize. I had like
you have to be ready to go, you can't. Ye,
this was mariographed blocked thing. Yeah, no, we're not kidding.
This is really true. This is very true. And in
the track, jawns the sharks screams like this is like

(58:20):
prime whatever they thought a shark noise was put in there.
It was like a Jurassic Park roar, which surely does
not happen with Sharks. But I had to sort of
match my pitch, my tone to whatever was in the track,
and I had to form audio cues, like internal like
self made cues like oh, when when there's a rustle
at this at like minute four, that's when I'll be right,

(58:43):
you know, if you know, Jaws famously has a very
signature soundtrack, and so there's points in the music where
Bone would know, this is where I enter stage left
and scream at the people that Maths put in the boat.
And also we should say they were also multi sort
of like four D elements where I would have buckets
of water, I had a water gun I would set
and the audience would get wet and I would Actually

(59:04):
the show was called you Will Get Wet, and it
is online. It is on YouTube. I'm I'm checking that
out as soon as we're done here. You must check
it out. It was and yes, by the way, it
was a musical. So this was not just a four
minutes This is a long. It started as a bit
I was doing on stage where I just did the

(59:25):
Jaws ride and it was like people would like book
me for like a stand up set, and I was like, cool,
I need time in the space beforehand here in my
tech I need. It became too much of a thing.
One's gonna do the show too. Yes, So I did
it like several times, and then I was like, this
will not sustain. I can't do this like on the scene.
I must actually do it as part of its own show.

(59:47):
And so I wrote a show. It was called You
Will Get Wet. It was all about a fictionalized version
of myself wanting to be the Jaws boat skipper, and
it culminated in the Jaws performance, which was my addition together.
And that's bone was incredible Shark and he's gone on
to do amazing things as a result of playing of

(01:00:08):
you and some of you. Um, but it's still it's
still listened in your credits though, right, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
I am yeah, I am Broadway Broadway Dada perfect. It
was Broadway, yeah, the Broadway database. Well no, but I
mean I I do like this concept of like you

(01:00:31):
like going to like as a destination performance, like I'm
gonna go see the guy who sings convoy um, and
like that's like that's like, what like sparks something in you.
It was a bonus, a pleasant surprise that you know whatever.
June afternoon, I just happened to see that that performer
was at the you know, Silver Wagon show room and

(01:00:53):
that not very farm and amazing. Yeah, yeah, before we do,
I don't think so, honey, I want to asked about
where you're placing. So okay, so big many Players Network,
new podcast network network with I heart Media from Will
and thank you for producing us, and thank god, thank
you guys for coming on board. This is a a

(01:01:15):
coupe all the time. And there's that that we were
talking about, um making a way in that comedy. It's perfect.
I feel like, okay, so so I like that. I
feel I would say the flagship show is the Ron

(01:01:37):
Burgundy podcast now. And and you have Carolina, who's your assistant,
who's lovely, we've met, she's phenomenal. Perfect But okay, but Ron,
let's place Ron like in space time here, so he
is in the he's in like yeah yeah, but like
but yeah, he hasn't really aged since the seventies, right, No,

(01:01:57):
he hasn't aged. He's kind of yeah, he's stuck at
whatever A g is a robust late forties Okay, I
would say, yeah, and he's learning. He's like he's like
learning so much about this world and like he's trying
to evolve. Yeah, he um and he he ping pongs

(01:02:19):
back and forth between. Sometimes he is incredibly enlightened, he's
right with modern times and you kind of can't believe
Ron's really this with it. And then other times he
of course is is hopeless. Um, and poor Carolina suffers
the brunt of a lot of Ron's uh misinformation. Yeah,

(01:02:43):
it's perfect in that Carolina is straight manning you. But um,
but also I feel like what Ron is going through
is like a nice mental model. It's a nice blueprint
for everybody to to see. Oh, I can be so
far behind on something, but very as you said, enlightened
in others and willing to learn, but prone to us

(01:03:06):
to flare ups and abusive language and abusive behavior, which
is not fair. But he's always apologetic. Yes, I think
that's that's what we gotta take away. That's what we got.
He's trying his best. Ultimately, Now, where does the Veronica
corning Stone exist in this universe? Are they still married?
Is that? As shame moved on Veronica isn't referenced that often.

(01:03:29):
In fact, Ron is always talking about past girl friends.
It kind of makes no sense. Um. And in fact,
the last season Ron um uh Ron had a relationship
with with Siah right yes, about two or three episodes

(01:03:51):
he was dating Cia, which he Sia did tell Ron
she was interested in hang out, but they and she
had to break it off. And but I don't I
don't think she was as serious about it as Ron
was to be quite honestly. So he's a little broken
hearted over that still, but he's technically still married, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:04:15):
well I would love to hear him discuss that. And
Baxter's probably a hundred years old and been through so much.
There's a lot of a lot of things are being bent, yeah,
right in his reality. And this is not to say that,
um the lawns of physics even applied in the original movies,

(01:04:38):
right right, but they definitely don't apply in the podcast
of course. Way with it. Yeah, yeah, it's a looser medium,
write you, yeah, super loose ye. This medium there is
amongst loose lips, loose lips medium, you know, loose lips medium.

(01:05:00):
That's that's that's actually the sister network of big money
players loose Lips medium and I'm starting it and it's
only podcast with mediums. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I have Theresa Caputo. Uh,
she's the Long Island medium and I have at least
twenty podcast pitches from her already already since I've said it. Yeah,
she already knew. She was like, I've been waiting for

(01:05:21):
someone to say they had a podcast for mediums, and
so she read ready to go, Ready to go. They
all they sound, they sound okay, Um, okay, we're gonna
take a quick break and we're gonna come back with
I don't think so honey. Okay, and we're back even

(01:05:47):
and we're back even, Okay. So I think it's time
for I don't think so Honey. I don't know. I
don't think so Honey. Is our one minute segment where
we take one minute to rail against something in culture. Um,
there's a lot going on, there's a lot to look
forward to, there's a lot to feel some dread around.
I would say there's a lot going on in the world. Um,
I have chosen a topic that is not necessarily I

(01:06:09):
would say topical per se. And I would say a
lot of people might not even be thinking about this
at all. And that's actually why I feel it's important,
because in this time, something slipped through the cracks and
and everyone I I'm ready now. I should just preface
this by saying, as a result of my bike accident
two weeks ago, my phone is still shattered, so bone,
I will need you to what was your accident? Well, well,

(01:06:31):
what happened was? Should I not ask? Am I opening
a can of word? And I'm actually very open about
my my injuries. Um, so I have flipped. I flipped
over the bars. It was stupid too. It was I
was riding my bike and I went to break so
I could put directions in my phone, which is just
not a way you should behave in life. And I

(01:06:54):
flipped over the front and landed on my elbow and wrist. Luckily,
we're fine. I just have some I've banged up a
little bit. That's that's not so bad in the world
of bike bike injuries. My boyfriend said it looked like
I was dead. Like he said that it was. It
was a kind of shocking that I didn't die. He
sounds just a little disappointed, Um, but I was No,

(01:07:15):
I'm just kidding. He he likes me, but he was like,
I was so shocked that you were able to get
up because I almost let me know how you are.
But I'm the kind of person that I freak out
about little things like my internet will be cutting out
every now and then, like I can't get my Netflix
to work, like it was a real m had a
real time trying to get Eurovision to play because my
internet was going in. And that's the kind of ship

(01:07:36):
that I lose my mind about. But I flipped over
the front scene of my handlebars on my bike and
I was just like, it's cool. Just like drive back
and drive back with the car and come get me.
He's like, it's crazy that you didn't freak out about that,
but like, wait he had to pick you up. Well,
we were far away from the house, and so I
was like, just continue to ride on your bike. I'm
gonna sit here, you get the car, come back. And

(01:07:58):
he was like, I can't believe you're being so measured
because you're such a crazy idiot. I was like, well,
it was this, It was this was not on such
a busy road. I take it. It really wasn't. We
actually we were on we were on vacation. We left
l A for a little while, and it happened like
far away in like the suburb area. So I flipped
over and I was like, Okay, this wasn't like a

(01:08:19):
busy intersection or any it was. It was very actually
was very temcular, I would say, and I was, and
I was about to say that, um so anyway, by
antman John, he does not have to do with that,
though I do feel it's important if you care about it. Okay,
all right, that's a good profesce. This is Matt Robbers.
Wasn't his time starts now? I don't think so, honey.

(01:08:42):
The circus, it's bitch. There's nuts everywhere on the damn floor.
Clean it up. How come the circus is something people
go to circles? Circus is I'm gonna say controversially, Eurovision
without singing? Excuse me. If you're expecting me to pay
to watch someone flip over, excuse me. I could turn

(01:09:02):
in once a year every May and see someone do flips.
And also built a high G sharp. I bet you
didn't think that note existed on the musical scales. Guess
what bitch it do? Yes? I don't think so, honey.
The circus. I have to sit in what is a
circle to watch something, and oftentimes this is not an

(01:09:23):
optimal way to watch things. I like to theater bit,
I like to be seated and watch the audience perform
out staging. Wise, I have problems with the circus. Now,
let's get real. These animals are enslaved. They need to
become free. I don't want to see an elephant in
a big hat. I want to see an elephant with
no hat in the what African wilderness or wherever they live.

(01:09:46):
They also are in Thailand. If I'm to believe the
many Instagram photos I see from hashtag white people, I
don't think so, honey. The circus and the enslavement of elephants.
And that's one minute in seventeen seconds. Well, I went
a little over take that Greatest Showman. And can I
say the reason I'm even thinking about this is because
we just watched The Greatest Showman the other night and

(01:10:07):
I was like, this is a circus of a film,
right right. But I did enjoy it. I did enjoy
I enjoyed it too, And some of the music is
so damn good. Rewrite the stars. It's a moment we
love Zendia. We love Zach Effron. We wish he would
do more musical things. It's no double trouble. It's no

(01:10:27):
thank you, it's no double trouble of the song from
if we're ranking duets and film, double trouble stars is
no double trouble. Gosh, that was a tour divorce there, Yes,
it really was. I think it's a rule of culture.
The circus is just your vision without singing that. The

(01:10:49):
circus is just without And I would also say like
the circus would be better if someone came out at
the end and we all devote on the different an
x and there was like a sort of Eurovision moment
of actress because I need I need some competition at
the circus. That's the way to bring the circus back

(01:11:09):
is with the absolutely element. Und I want to say
that anything that's circus themed, I'm also not on board with.
I'm watching Legendary, that ballroom show, that being show on
HBO Max. The every episode is great. My least favorite
was the episode where they did a circus theme and
I was like, I don't care for any of this.
I don't actually care for the aesthetic of a circus

(01:11:31):
or the fact that I'm supposed to be transported to
a circus setting him like, I don't really, this doesn't
mean anything to me. Well, circuses have dark of course,
and we should say that. And also P. T. Barnham
was not this magician that we all think. He had
hashtag problems, but he was very handsome. He was very,
very handsome and very convinced. According the Greatest Showman, I mean,

(01:11:52):
if you looked anything like Hugh Jackman. Have you ever
met Hugh Jackman. Yeah, I met him a couple of times. Delightful.
Is it something to be hold? It is? Yeah? Yeah,
he actually hosted the show when I was there and
we did a Oh yeah, I bet back in his
Wolverine days. Yeah, exactly. He's got pipes. He's got the

(01:12:13):
pipes for real. Oh he's he's speaking of pipes. I
was just gonna mention, remember that era when all the
pop star girls were doing circus themed things like Brittany
Spears had Circus, Pink had fun House. There was like
in this era where all the pop stars were like
in circuses. I think it's ongoing. Maybe it is. It's
great to think about that. There was, wasn't there. CBS's

(01:12:36):
evening of of the stars and they would do they
would act, they would train and do circus acts. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was like a thing. It was like, we're gonna watch,
you know, Amy Brennaman do the exactly. Yeah, Amy Brennaman
is gonna do the Strapeeze the stars of CBS shows
within Yeah, they would, they would put them in circus scenarios.

(01:12:58):
So that happened. I forgot about that. Yeah, that's it's
almost like the entertainment industry thinks the circus is a
thing it can bring back, sort of like variety shows
or something. Were you ever served people at all? Do
you have any appreciation for that? By the way, I
I auditioned. I tried to audition for you know what,

(01:13:22):
you'd be good at Blue Man Group? Oh, I that
would be something that would be a limited run of
Blue Man Group. I think that you would be really
good in a group that I kid you not. The
guy on the left is Will Ferrell. How do you know.
I swear he was on Lost Culture. So about wanting
to do a run on Blue Man Group, and I

(01:13:44):
swear that's him. It would be very good. That'd be
very meta. That'd be very meta. No, I don't know.
I think they'd be happy. I think that your top
credit from now on should be lost cultures. Is that okay? Okay?
Number one? Yeah, I wanted to I wanted to ask
before that became canon. Um bow and Yang. I think
it might be time for you to do it. I

(01:14:05):
don't think so okay, all right, this is Bowen yangs.
I don't think so honey, and his time starts now.
I don't think so honey. Family size anything. You don't
know my life. Don't know my life and family size
something is on the opposite spectrum of meals for one

(01:14:25):
in the frozen aisle. Do not try to push this
nuclear family narrative on me. Don't try to shape my
lifestyle into something that I don't want or am not
ready for quite yet. So let me buy the small,
reasonably priced bag of hot cheetos. Let me buy the
big bag, actually the moderately sized bag of pizza roles

(01:14:46):
when I'm shopping at the grocery store. Grocery stores, as
we know, are basically the most perilous, dangerous, precarious places
in the world. Right now, bringing ground psychologically happen me
for there with this ideological nightmare that you are trying
to graft onto my lifestyle. Bitch, I'm gonna be single,

(01:15:09):
and I might own two dogs, one fair who doesn't
smell because of what genetic modification thing. And that's one minute.
And I have to say family style is a psychological
ideological attack. And then it's funny that it's great that
we say that. It's important that we say that when
you are a family style restaurant or food product service,

(01:15:30):
it's an ideological I've never thought of it that way
in agreement, thank you. There's no reason for it. It's
normative and we don't need it. We only pizza should
be personal only, and that's actually rule of culture number sixty.
Pizza should be personal only, four little slices. Every anything
else is normative family style ideological attack. Even though when

(01:15:54):
I go to a restaurant, I always ask if that
can be served family style? Whatever I'm eating, I will
say I like the style at restaurants, even if you're not,
even if you're not in a family. This is a betrayal. Hans,
our producer, just said I love family style. Get the
funk out of here. No one asked you. Who the
hell asked you a head of Content Hans he is
he is HC, so he is HFC, and I mean HFC.

(01:16:19):
Hans can actually take several seats because no one asked him.
No one asked him. Why did he have to chime in?
I have to say, I think we've discussed this on
the pod before, but it's true. It's like family style.
You know, when and I am talking about restaurants, I'm sorry,
I'm gonna go there, but you order family style, it's
usually one person deciding everything that gets ordered, and then

(01:16:41):
you'll see yah. No. Hans also says anti family stylist,
anti immigrants out here. No one asked you, Oh my god,
but how was an anti immigrant? Because family style is
and tell him. Hans says, okay, okay. So the idea

(01:17:02):
of like single plates, single serve is very much like
I would say, I would say, it's it's kind of
like not even a European concept, but it feels like
an American concept, whereas if you eat family style, it's like, oh,
this is just this is how a lot of this
is a lot of like immigrant cultures around the world eat,
and so you know, and the fact that we have

(01:17:24):
to even call it family style to differentiate it from
the norm is kind of you know, it's it's it's
other rising language. I don't mean to together. I have
an announcement to s j W about this, but that's
my thing. What I actually have an announcement to make okay,
As as a result of this conversation and the exchange
of ideas, I've changed and I now have come to
a place where I realized that family style is the

(01:17:46):
only way that we should be eating at restaurants and
absorbing food and time together. And I want to apologize
for recent comments in which I and which I called
family style not good. End of statement. I actually think too,
this could be transcended into a new uh, a new
positive euphemism, like, hey, what's up we all let's we're

(01:18:09):
all family style? Right yet? Yeah, that's really good. I
don't know what its specifically is about, but yeah, the
new title of this episode is family family Style. What
was it previously? I don't remember out of school to
drop out of school kids. Well, I don't know, I do.
I do want to send that message out. Well, it's
pretty explicit in the episode. I think the title family

(01:18:30):
style is nice. It's inviting. I want to point out Matt.
That turn that was there, that was not only spectacular,
that was very Ron Burgundy, very like you know, I
aspire to be um late twenties gay Ron Burgundy. And

(01:18:51):
I say that as a thirty year old man. Yes, yes,
thank you. Will. I think it's time for Will to do.
I don't think so. It's time for Gosh. Okay, okay, Well,
you're gonna nail. You're gonna nail. It's gonna be great.
I'm just supposed to launch into it, right, You're supposed
to launch it. Here we go. We're gonna We're gonna
kick you up. This is Will Ferrells. I don't think
so many as time starts now, I don't think so. Honey.

(01:19:13):
Let's talk about Lady G. Okay, let's talk about Senator
Lindsay Graham from the great state of South Carolina. You
can't show up with the beautiful blonde hair and the
puffy hair do and not be Lady g. You are
full on Lady G and just let it all go

(01:19:38):
go and you will become a folk hero. You will
be allowed back in South Carolina, that's fine, but you
will be trumpeted, you will be heralded in New York
l A, Miami, Philadelphia, any major city in America, and
people will bow out to you Lady G five seconds.

(01:20:05):
And that's what I don't think, So I agree. So
so that's one minute. I have to say, I personally
will never forgive him for doing the things that he's done,
but I will say, if he wants to come hang out,
he can go sit in the corner of the bar
over there. But that's the thing. He could go sit
in the corner and he could do a Lady G

(01:20:27):
tour and he could go, Hey, you guys are right.
I was wrong about this. I was wrong about that,
and I was wrong, but I was too scared to
just step out and be who I really am. And uh,
that would be a powerful thing now for people his
his his generation who may be struggling in the same way.

(01:20:49):
I think that perhaps it would be very powerful. It
would be because I think that's an epidemic. Absolutely. I
would say that in order for Lady G to be
full redeemable in my eyes, you have to do something
to like to rescind the Brett Kavanaugh appointment. I think,
like I think he was like, well he would, Yeah,

(01:21:11):
he'd have to come clean on a list the whole
list of things that goes without saying that can only
be addressed in a one man show. I think I
think he, I think he has to come out in
a one way show Lady G like, well, what's that
Lady Day Like the Dan McDonald play that she wanted
Tony for. It has to be that, But Lady G. Okay,
That's the only way I can forgive Lindsey Graham is

(01:21:32):
if he does Lady G at at Emerson's Barn, grill
at the Turkish Baths, at the Russian Lady g at
the Russian Baths, And it has to be storytelling with songs,
with songs, and then I can talk about forgiving Lady G.
It would be the first step in frankness. Yeah, and
I should say I'm not buying a ticket to the show,

(01:21:52):
but he started to do the show, Yeah, right, as
part of the mini steps. Yeah, just start with the show,
start with the one man show, and then we'll talk
and then we'll we'll we can begin a dialogue perchance. Yeah,
I'm I was gobsmacked at the Platinum Blonde. Yeah. And

(01:22:14):
here's the thing. I mean, there there's there's a lot,
there's a lot going on there actually during quarantine, who's
getting their hair worked on. I mean, look what's happening here.
That looks great. Here's the thing, that's what gays in
crisis do. They go platinum blonde. So to watch him
sort of like live that tell tale sign. Yes, all
the messes in my life, like you see them go

(01:22:36):
platinum blonde the second let the second things start going south.
So to see him like in the midst of like
the gop I hope, finally finally tanking in front of
our eyes, to see him go platinum on the world stage.
It's just two on the nose. It's two on the nose. Yeah,
and that's actually going to be the opening number. Two

(01:22:57):
on the nose, on the nose, it's two on the
nose me, Lady g G l G. Yeah, that's I
think that's actually a really good opening number, and I
think it would it would rival all that jazz as
the great opening numbers of our time. Yeah, for sure.

(01:23:19):
Is there any way to figure out who coined the
moniker Lady G Well, supposedly that's his self self anointed name. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
it's not self appointed. It's the sex workers that he
allegedly hired right began calling him lady in order to

(01:23:41):
refer to him without saying Senator Lindsay Graham of South Carolina,
because they would be nervous about a paper trail. This
is the thing, though, is this is the thing that's
wrong with um. The allegations is that there's a lot
of conflicting inform, contradicting information. Where what I read was
Lady G was what he wanted the sex workers to

(01:24:01):
call him. I feel that's see, that's a bridge too
far from me. He was like, not only am I closeted,
but I'd like to be referred as Lady G. I
think he'd make up some boring name artist formally known
as Lady G. Yeah. Well now, and I feel bad
if Lady G is what he did want to be called,
and now he kind of like has had that taken
away from him. Actually just kidding, I don't feel bad. Well,

(01:24:24):
it's just fascinating. Yeah, if if he's just stuck and
cannot doesn't have the courage to kind of you know, look,
I mean that that's it's really dark and sad, and
I actually I mean then you get to all this,
how do you pronounce it? Is it Matt gets this
stuff with the nineteen year old quote unquote, son, I

(01:24:46):
just I just learned about that yesterday. I I literally
don't think so, honey. Yeah, know that there's a lot
going on, and I always feel like, um, the people
that feel the need to be the most publicly disparaging
about certain group, you have to wonder what their complex
is about that group. You know. It's like it's like
with this kind of all this talk about you know,

(01:25:08):
LGBT rights and um, you know, with the Supreme Court
doing what they've done recently, it's like seeing people and
thinking about people that would stand against that. It's like,
what is your damage? Man? Like, what is your deal?
Like why do you need to step in the way
of someone's job being protected? And they always bring it
back to well, people should have control over who they hire,

(01:25:29):
and it's like, what this is such a redirection from
what the issue is, which is equality and their treatment.
So you have to wonder about these people that are
the most vocal about an issue, and that's this is
I'll stop short of saying more, but like, if someone
out there is the most vocal about an issue and

(01:25:49):
really makes themselves a figurehead, I always think we have
to kind of question that that person, like, what's the deal? Well,
you and I'm met are most vocal about Eurovision in
song contest. The story of fire, Saga and our complex
is that all of it. We hope everyone sees it.
June the segue of the year. I was incredible. I

(01:26:11):
was gonna say, my damage is that we weren't in it. Yeah,
that's well what the fun was up? But they're bad.
That's our that's my full Lady G. I pulled. That's
your lady G. Yeah that was you were too afraid
to put us in it because you knew we would
shine right to exactly you knew we would shine too bright.
I um, I'm gonna have to redeem myself. I have

(01:26:34):
a way you can do that. Can you publicly stay
right now that me and Bowen should be cast as
the eels and Flotsam and Jetsam in the Little Mermaid movie.
That's all we want. I want to go on record
that Matt Rogers and Bowne Yang should be cast as
the eels, Flotsam and Jetsam, Yes, in the upcoming Little

(01:26:57):
Mermaid movie. And there there's kind of no other choice.
I really think there is I don't think that was
an And what you've done there as red has redeemed you.
And I want to say it goes along with yeah,
it's done, it's done. It's that feel like it's like
my family style moment. It's like this is this is
your family style moment. We've got a lot of redemption

(01:27:22):
on the pod today. Wow, that's good. Well, Will Ferrell,
thank you so much for coming on the podcast. So
great to talk to you. And uh, you guys are
so smart and funny and uh's really creative and it's
just fun to finally be on here and great that
you guys were willing to come on the platform and
and no joke, you were one of the first ideas

(01:27:44):
we thought of, and that was Carolina was like, you
got you have to listen to last Coulturesta's and then
my heart was like we already know who these guys are,
so it was it was it's just great to kind
of formally get to hang out, you know, totally, and
we wish we could do it in person. We will,
you'll be back. I think we should hang out in
Bowen's yellow room there my parents my parents basement. Okay, yeah,

(01:28:08):
that's where we have to do it. They would love that.
I think I think they would actually really respond to
that idea, to be honest. Um, Well, likewise, thank you
for everything you've done making us laugh all these years,
and for having us on this platform. Thank you so
so much. And the movie is great. We love you. Well,
let's close that every episode with the song. We close

(01:28:30):
out each and every episode with the song. Okay great,
huh huh u huh okay v okay you guys, Okay,

(01:29:05):
I just like to put this down, sorry to read
the soundtracking by the part just comes out. Everyone's gonna
know it off word perfect

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