"Kakuna Gay Harden" (w/ Richard Perez)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look may, oh, I see you my own and look
over there is that culture. Yes, goodness, lost culture, dinging,
lost culture. He is calling, Matt. Would you describe yourself
at any point in your life as a princess? Hmm.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
There was one time I dressed up as a little princess,
and actually it was pretty viseral because my younger, Oh
my god, this is like not me having a flashback
to a traumatic memory. You didn't know this was going
to unlock something, but it did. My cousin Megan dressed
me up in a princess outfit and I went upstairs
in the princess outfit, and I can tell I could,
in the moment know that it was not the thing

(00:40):
to do, because my parents and all their friends were like, oh,
it's a little boy dressed as a girl.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
The first sign you.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Can feel the adult sort of like like, oh.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
They slurped mad.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's what I meant to say the whole time when
I went up the dresses of the princess and they
went as well, I just went.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
They went. The princess has an like in origin are
you already in? Sorry? Sorry? But now was there ever
a time when you felt like a princess?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I say, I've only really felt like a princess in
the presence of another princess, you know what I mean.
And there was something really important about our guest one
time when we were hanging out. I don't even think
you like anointed me as such, but you were just like, well,
we're princesses, and I went, you know what I mean,

(01:30):
you start your job dropping. So do you feel like
we should start a Queen's of comedy?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
But it's the.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Princesses of Comedy because I am like, here's the thing
is like, it's a big joke, but I do say
I'm the Prince of Christmas once a year. So when
you say princess, that's hard because I've just branded us
something else. But I could change my brand if you
guys were like, we were the Princesses of comedy, like
the queens of comedy before us.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yes, I think that's a really important discussion we should have.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So our guest is fabulous comedian. You might know him.
Princesses of Comedy is title of that, by the.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Way, Princess of Comedy. Oh my god, Look he's being
a princess right now. Can we cut to him?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, he's threat. He's threatened to sort of spike at
the camera the whole time. And I said, that's going
to be tough for us, someone who's had a conversation
with you.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's going to be tough for us because we're over here,
but the camera's over there. But I mean, this person
knows his his frame. He knows how to work the
camera in a way that I don't think I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
But here's the thing is, it's like I kind of
want to be the camera now.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I know. I'm Wow. We need to talk.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
We need to talk about all things Princess, camera everything. Okay,
if you're listening to this, we I think this might
come out.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Before his show July twelfth.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
This comes out in time for the Junion Hall show
on July twelfth. Hopefully you guys hear this in time.
Hear this in time, We'll cut this out and it'll
get down at Park Slope.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
July twelfth, Union Hall. How How did you get to
bark Slope from here?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Bark Slope, Yeah, but I would get I would hop
on the F train and I think I would maybe
i'd transfer Barclays and I don't know if it stops
at the Unions the Union Street stage. Oh no, you
have to transfer at Barclays to the r take that
to Unions.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, that's how we'd get there from here, and we
record this podcast from what would you call this Fifth Streets. Yeah,
we're at the iHeart offices and in a studio that
we found out was originally made for Ryan Seacrest.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
It feels very like Coca Cola Lounge American Idol era.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, and then our guests sang the theme song
from American Idol. No no, no, no, no. Do you
perform this in the show. And by the way, there's
other shows that are gonna happen later on September.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
You said September, I have a solo show called I
Have to Do This.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, huge, huge, huge moment in comedy. I think I
have to do this. I think Richard really rocked the
scene with his centuality. We need to talk about sensuality.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
We have to explain what it is.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, well, you know, there's definitely camera work involved and
just kind of like, don't be scared to like look
at it.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Who do you think?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Who do you pretend the camera is somebody that you know?
Or I pretend it's like a reflect that it's like
a mirror. I'm kind of just like, well, because you know,
when you like act in the mirror, you know when you.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Do, they're always better when you're acting in the mall.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
So I just pretend that I'm like, I know what
this looks like sometimes in the mirror, just giving, and
we can be like transparent.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
We got it.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
We got to talk about gay mirror. Let's really get
into it. How many times have you looked into the mirror.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
And been giving? I really have the time, the time,
all the time.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
And then outside of the bathroom, it's, you know, impossible
to get a guitar. Yeah, it's so hard to get
in there.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah. I would push.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
For mirrors, mirrors on cameras on all sets. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean, Like, it's a shame that
we don't have a mirror here today.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I know what for me, I don't know about for y'all,
but the work that you'd get out of me if
I just could act with the mirror, it would be crazy.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, Emma Stone, worse than dead, jealous, threatened.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Wait, it's actually really cool.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Number thirteen jealous, that's worse than dead to be caught.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
When when you're jealous.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Oh, I mean there's that saying about it? What is
is a disease or whatever?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yes, jealousy is a disease, so get well soon. There's
also jealousy is the green eyed monster?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Get well soon? Oh, envy is the green eyed monster.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Envy is the green eyed monster, and jealousy, jealousy is
a disease.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Get well soon. Do you know who first said that?
Who was Mirror Tomorrow?

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Really like her?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Well, I don't like, I don't watch housewives like I
don't know that universe like at all.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I think you, out of anybody, would really love it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Really. I feel like you'd like like old New York.
Don't you think that?

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yes, I think like I don't know of course, like
my friends love it and it's just such a big universe. Friends,
we both we both leave got him Richards lied to
us they only had two big poofy dresses, your little
like prince very.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Who's the best princess in media? Do we know?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
I'd say, like I was when I was thinking about us,
So the princess discussion, I'm like your mind's eye, like
Mario Party, Like there's Peach Daisy and then there's another one.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
The Princess.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
She is from Mario Galaxy. She has a really tragic
story and you find out about it as you go
to visit the library, as you unlock more worlds you read,
you read about her.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's very much like Little Prince. She her parents die.
They based Mystic River on her. Did you ever see
Mystic River?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think actually it was on TV once.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Emmy and then watched her character. It's based on Rosa's sister.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, horrible. And her dad is Sean Penn.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, and he was like, my god. And then Marcia g.
Harden in Universe turned to performance bitch. I think Marsia
Harden is a princess of screen.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, wa wait is that the one that was wait
wait you came to last and I do?

Speaker 5 (07:54):
I do?

Speaker 6 (07:56):
She was?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
She was?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
She an urban ledge and my god, I don't even
know that.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
I don't know that. I might be thinking of someone else.
She got like light eyes and like she got light eye. Yeah,
she's like, oh she plays she.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Have you ever seen the movie? You ever say that?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Mono?

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Lisa smile? No, God, I don't think about me.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is I've never seen a movie that's okay, movies, I
haven't seen movies. Really, I'm trying to think of a
monoculture piece of work that Marcia gay Harden was in.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And it's hard.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
But even then, like those, some of those, I'm like,
I missed it and it's and there's you're never gonna
watch it one day. I could same with like how's wipes?
Like one day if I.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Broke both my legs, I would I'd be caught up
on all this.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yes, God, yeah, but absolutely I think that's kind of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm gonna list some movies that Marcia gay Harden has
been in and you guys, tell me, if you've seen
this movie and if you think this movie qualified see
what she looks Yes, you can see what she looks like.
This is Marsha gay Harden, So Justin and the Zoom
and for everyone, that's Morden. That's actually of Frozen two. Okay,
So I don't know, but I'm gonna imagine that she

(09:12):
was there for some reason.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
So her acting credits include The First Wives Club, she
played No someone inmed doctor Leslie Rosen.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I don't remember her. I remember, I don't know me.
Joe Black m that's the Gorilla.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Alison Parrish again, Julia Roberts is in that Amazing You
may if you haven't seen that?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
No, all right, have you ever seen the movie The Missed? No? Okay,
that's the this?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
You know? What? How about Fifty Shades of Grave? She
played Grace Trevillian Gray. I'm only gonna imagine must be
a Christian Grace mother.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I took around.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
When someone asks me if I've seen a certain movie,
I'm like, is it like forty Old Virgin?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's that's your your north star? I guess, okay, And
now I'm like, what about TV? You know, do you
watch the Morning Show? And the Morning Show she plays
like a cunty reporter's like, I'll get you.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
She's always talking, she's always telling you. You know.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's like her adversary is Jennifer Aniston, who's like one
of the top Warner Show hosts, and she's.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Very like sorry read a Skeeter vibes where she's like, Hm,
Carrel is yeah, briefly, briefly, okay, gotcha. His character drove
off a cliff.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh my god, but by accident. Well, I think your
vibe is very Marcia gay Harden.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
What do you what do you think of that name?
Gay Harden?

Speaker 4 (10:41):
I think that it's a great last name, and I
think gay Harden. I think that I relate to it. Yeah,
gay resonates, do you Harden? So I actually do quite
a bit.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
What's the name of the Pokemon that has hardened as
a move meta pod?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So if Couna was part of the lgbt Q plus community,
he would be gay hearted art that actually might be titled.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Wow, that's such a joke for Bo and Yang.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
If I also.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Loved Pokemon, like I at my dad's apartment, we like
he still has the binder, I like left it there.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
We had one fifty U all those there there.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's time to sell. Really, they're up in marketing is
nodding our camera guy?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Are you serious? Cell sell? Yeah? People will buy them? Yes?
For how much? How?

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like what what would you say? If anyone's interesting?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I could go for I think like five k? You're
fucking no, what do you think thousand? You're saying five k?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I will never forget like going to the Pokemon card
so I called it the store, but on Tuesdays we
would go every week, and well I could never buy
a charge ark because it was twenty two dollars. But
my mom was like hopefully you'll find it in a pack,
because I'm not allowing you to pay twenty two dollars
for a card.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
And then one day and now she's eating her fucking hat.
It's I don't think she understood, nor did anyone, that
it would be worth thousands, But.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
No one understood except us. Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, like we it was so like tremendously valuable, like
the feeling of getting one of the cards you wanted,
and also you would trade for it. There was there
was a bit of strategy to it as well, and
just trying to like yeah, you know, every card was
so purposeful or something, and the holographic of it all
like that was just like yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I remember like the first deals, Like I remember, like
I got in a fight with my cousin and my
aunt called our house because he regretted trading a blastoise
to me for a venosaur, and I was like, I'm sorry,
but we did say no trade backs, and that's a
verbal contract.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
You got the blast door. I got the blast I remember.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
I don't remember which card it was, but there was
someone from like my I think that was in fifth
grade or something or middle school that must have been
hard and yeah, this is my princess origin story. So
what happened was there was this guy who was so sweet,
very friendly guy.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
No, I don't know, but I don't think so that
must have been really hard. Yeah, and he Basically what
happened was he told me he had a card that
I was looking for and he was like, yeah, I
actually have three of them, and you have three of
them he said, yeah, I do, and so then I

(13:41):
was like, well, I have this other one, like I
think I had two of like a rare one, And
I was like, what if we trade? And he was
like yeah, absolutely, like I can meet you or if
you want to come after school. Like I forget what happened.
We somehow Basically what ended up happening was I had
my mom drive me to his house. Yeah, but I

(14:04):
feel like like I don't think he actually explicitly was
like we're you were meeting me at my home to exchange.
I think he was more like like sure, like we
could do it.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
This is like when a guy on Grinder is like, yeah,
i'm horny, I'm down.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's like he's like, oh I'm horny, I'm horny. It's nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's like I guess he's at the childhood version of him.
You're like, come over, I'll trade you like my clferry,
and there's nothing of the sort.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
He he didn't show me any cards.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
He was just like he was like, oh, it's actually
at my it's at my dad's house, like all the
cards or something.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Just wanted to play with you. He wanted to play
with you, but he keep he catfished you.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
He fished you.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, fish fish, Oh my god, Yeah, what was the
fucking deal?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
You was sort of he was like kind of like
Emo a little bit. It was just understood. Yeah. Do
you think me is Emo?

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Me was a little bit em Oh no, mewtwo, Yeah,
Metwo is Emo.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Mew was like was like this is fine, like.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
God, and then it turns into like he hardens, he hardens,
Gay heartens tour Guy mewtwo And then there's that movie
The Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I just think I remember that because mewtube was very scary. Yeah,
because capable of anything. I don't know what that song
it was, well not for nothing, but dark Horse is
kind of YouTube coded, like it's scary.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Richard, you could like you were you ever an a cappella? No,
you have an ear you have.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
An ear for like mimicking instruments. You could be a
mimic on Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, we have plans to do a singing together at
Joe's Pup. Remember I'm only remembering now in the moment
that we did. We just said we were going to
do a cabaret night.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, what what?

Speaker 7 (16:07):
What?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
What would it be? We'd sit on two ends of
the stage and.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
We stand the same time, exact time, our own very
different energy access and then me tops be like and bottoms.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, I'm doing like physical comedy, like to get away
with not like having written material. I'm like dropping it
low checking master.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
What's it like to have like juicy asses? Both of
you are are juicy ass queens? Please you mean like
in a physical sense?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, like the energy you do answer that question, I'm
a mad could drop it to the floor and people
would erupt and scream.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
You can take a picture from behind.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
You've done like the bunny the bunny feet, so if
you if you don't know, Richard is I think also
very famous for his bunny feet photos.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Right, it's like the feet peaking. It's like it's like
you're taking a photo above.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yes, you you you're kind of like on your knees,
like on the ground, and like your feet, you're like
sitting on your feet. You're sitting on your toes are
kind of poking out of your bums. Yeah yeah, but
you're taking a photo from above, so it just looks
like a little like rabbit. Yeah, like a little I
call it bunny feet making people uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
But no, no, no, I'm more comfortable now than.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I'm glad you addressed it.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
We're just breaking down the walls, like the room, because
I gotta say, I have I have Hank Hill ass.
You have Hank You're hanging Hank Kill has nothing. Peggy
Hill is the only member of the of the Hill family,
the Hill that has an ass.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Dead ass.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I have Hank Hill ass you have. You have some
of the most iconic legs.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I was gonna say, I'd rather have a good ass.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
But having having such strong legs does make your ass
sit higher, Like you don't have no ass.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's not true. I understand that that might be a lie.
You're telling yourself.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Like a catfish, like I feel like my ass isn't
like it's not actually real, richer, it's all an illusion.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Can we can we just like not see it, but
like do you want to, like you get up unless
you're unomfortable for us, Like, don't do that. Also, what
I'm wearing, I like wanted to keep like the illusion
of like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Maybe I'm like Arcade Fire.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
That's Arcade Fire. Yeah, you want people to hoe to
watch and say that's ArKade Fire.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh my god? Should we say the episode is with
arkid Fire Jay Harden?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
But if you would, you would have to actually have
hit the episode to know that it was working for us.
We should do that. We want everyone to know. We
want to know right when they see the social.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know, that's all. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's like it's like it was where the wild thing
is the wild thing. I might like them then because.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Dun't dun't dun't dun't dun't du dun't dunt You have
such a good, easy tone, And every time I do
hear you singing, I'm always like so blown away by
how easy your access is and your resonators. Have you
ever told a cigarette or how to octo alcohol in
your life?

Speaker 4 (19:40):
I I've smoking. I don't know how to do that. Really,
I tried and it goes bad, Like I bought a
pack of cigarettes when I was like a freshman in college,
because you know, it's like how you meet people to
like everyone's.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Outside what they told you. That must have been hard, know, like.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Where I went to college, Like my freshman sophomore hero
is in Delaware for and it is my Princess origin story,
Princess of the Cards.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
That's Ashley Biden's vibe. Girl. Oh mgez waits you grew
up in Delaware? No no, no, I grew up.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
No no, So I'm the Princess of New Jersey, right, but
I did take a little bit of time. I spent
some time in Delaware and then for the taxes and
and I was getting I got in trouble with some
stuff in Jerseys, so my parents sent me to Delaware
for two years.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
And so then like, I.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Wait, what's the trouble the trouble Princess origins story?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, this must have been hard. Whatever this is? Oh
that's fake? Are you serious? Love that? It's really good?
This is what I'm saying. It's like literally really good.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
But your vocal stylings are like lisman Ellie.

Speaker 9 (21:08):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much. I what
was the trouble in Jersey?

Speaker 4 (21:19):
I I think I was just like I was Indie
and so like, yeah, I was, I was just I was.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
I did.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I was a bit mute at first, and then I
got mewtwo okay, and so then like I got to
get away from here, okay, okay, like Indie Emo, like
I was just like I gotta get away, Like this
is like you guys, like how old were you in Delaware?
I was eighteen, freshman year of college, okay, okay, it
ud no, no, no. This was a school that doesn't
exist anymore, called Delaware College of Art Design. It closed

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down like a couple of years ago. Decad decad what
do they call it?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Decad? Like scad? Yeah, like Scott and.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Their sister schools. They were sister schools with Pratt and Corkoran.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
So like people generally would go there and then transferred
to either school. And so that's what my mission was.
I'm right here and then I ultimately want to get
to New York.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
And then wait, wait, when did you bet to New
York again? Twenty eleven? Right on time, right on time?
When did y'all move? Huh? When did y'all move here.
So we got here and then sort of everything changed,
you know what I mean? Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Here when when they got bin Laden? Because I was
twenty eleven.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I don't actually I think that was in the beginning
of the.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Year, right was May I remember. I don't really remember
the like, where were you in London? To be honest
with you, I.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Don't remember where I was when they got bin Laden.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
I feel like I was in my like like sophomore year,
like apartment when I found you were in Delawary.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, and but no that there's a Thailand.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
But the when I when I moved to New York
the next day the earthquake happened.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
What Earth? Which was there was an earthquake here? There
was not? Yes, now August twenty eleven.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
This is Mandela effect. So then you moved in August.
That's you know what effect is?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yes, yes, we'll explain it then that you guys.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Mandela effect is something that can happen when you start
to think that things are going a certain way.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It was always different. Yeah, well that's a great way
of putting it.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
What is it, Berenstein bears, Oh, yeah, bar, yes, and
it's been and it's Barren's stay in this timeline, Yes.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Got it, but you'll be able to remember the earthquake.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Honestly, No, I don't remember the earthquake. I think I
remember one happening more recently. There was one last summer, Yes,
last summer, but then it hasn't happened since this one
in twenty eleven. But you know, even when I'm in LA,
I don't feel them. My group Chad will be like earthquake,
all caps and I'll be like and like, and I'll
be like, I didn't feel it. I never feel them.

(24:07):
I felt them maybe a couple of times. One I'm
famously and we were in Palm Springs in a restaurant
that was not fun. I'm sorry that was shocking, hits Hey,
just like.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
About the vocal quality. I'm telling you. I mean, listen,
if you I guess, we just have to stop smoking.
We just have to stop smoking. Okay, yeah, okay weed
for me.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
So my princess origin so like I so I went
to this very small art school and uh just there
was basically two dorms, like or an apartment building that
like students lived to, and then there was a dorm
and then the school, which was like really small, okay,

(25:05):
and people would hang out outside the dorm just like
smoking cigarettes and like whatever, and so I was like
trying to make friends and so this what I I was,
you know, eighteen, So I was like, okay, I can
buy cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
So I went for it. And then I just I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Anytime I've tried to smoke, I just like end up
like coughing for like thirty minutes, and I don't know
how to like inhale.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Same with right, you're not supposed to No, I'm sorry
you are.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I will say this like it takes me at So
when Bowen Yang whips out cigarettes, which is every day,
not really but sure is has it been more recently
because we've been doing a lot, and that sort of
comes away, Wait, what is it with you and cigarettes?
Like when you whip out a cigarette, like why are
you doing that? Physiologically? Its stress oral fixation and stress.

(25:56):
It's like what let's say, I'm gonna say it's like
six a week, okay, and I do it for community,
which is like I would never think to buy it
by myself, but when there's one around, like I will
have a cigarette with Bowen or a friend, right, But
it takes me a second every time to not cough.

(26:17):
I'm not because I smoke so much weed, and that is,
of course a different mechanism.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Even we too, like I tried to get into it
and every time vaping as well. I'm like, I remember
hookah bars like.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, especially when you first moved to New York.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Did you have the same experience When I first moved
to New York, I was going to hookah bars all.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
My god, like I'm a adult, the hookah era of
New York. Remember Horus on Avenue A. I actually do.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, I think it's still there. Really, I think it's
a hookah bar. Like the theme is like.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's by the bagel place or whatever. There's probably a
lot of bigel places new York City. Hunt anyway, we
can't be sure. Yeah, anyway, you can.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
You do try whistleson.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
No, No, that wasn't okay.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Oh I feel I feel scared. Yeah, that's probably spread
and night.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Did you have when you were young? Did Actually?

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I used to listen to my visit my dad on
the weekends, and he would buy me like marian the
Mariah Carey like he bought me like her Greatest Hits.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Album and White One number one.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, and then he also bought me the clean on
One one of them, yeah, the one that's like all
the way, yes, yes, all the way, and then.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
The same and then Whitney Witney that was such a
good cover.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
The Whitney one is great because the first one, the
red one is the ballads, and the blue one was Yeah,
so so many good ones. Yes, she probably out of
the three of them, that was probably the best.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Greatest hits. Yeah, it takes you on such a journey. Yeah,
it's such a journey. There's a remix of Queen of
the Night on that.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yes, yes, see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's so good.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
It's so like my dad, like on the weekends we
would go I visit him and he would bring me
with like he cleaned offices on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
He cleaned offices and listen to divas.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
No no, no, Like on the weekends, like he would like
drive us there, like me and my brother. But then
we would like hang out. Sometimes we'd help him, but
mostly we were just like there was vending machines with
like free candies, so we would just like hang out.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Such a thing going to your dad's office where there's
free or whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
And I'm like perfect, and I'm like I'm in her,
and so would you on the way, I would have
my headphones on blasting.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, literally, you were You are Adison, You really are.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's the princess that you are. Princess Addison. Oh my gosh,
that's a good title.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
That's a good title.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Addison, Princess Addison, Arcade Fire, gay hardened, gay heartened.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Might be too many words.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
No, oh really, but just make sure my name is first, Okay,
Richard Perez, the Princess Addison, Arcade.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Fire, you're really quiere. I can't really understand you. Well,
I bet just you're Are you doing a s m R?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Just make sure you guys think include my name, will
include your name. It was just a bit I think
on the subject of your voice. Unless this makes you uncomfortable,
I did earlier ask you to show your ass to everyone,
which I don't know why, but I think I think,
what is what is it about your sensuality as a performer,
because it's really magnetic?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Thank you? What is about scentuality?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Well, because like I think, one of the thing that
shook shook me. I'll always remember this is just it's
just the moments of you posting videos where it's it's
you know, pov.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Of you getting fed up.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
That was I think that was when it changed for
me that I was like, Okay, this is a comedy
Central comic to watch.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, And which the companion piece to that is the
album which I tried to find the other day, by
the way, I couldn't was the Alama draft House film.
And that gets interrupted because someone because.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
People are using their phones or.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
People using their phone, and you came on screen as
the general manager of the Alma draft House saying guys, I'm.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
So phones away.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
But it was it would it would be during these
like love making scenes while you were in like the
closet at work.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
We're like, I see, I try to do it now.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
And I felt self conscious and I was like I
can't totally tap into that.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Maybe I used to. I mean, I mean I could.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
I definitely am so self gosteous like sexually, but like,
I I don't know. I think maybe it's because if
the real thing is happening, I'm like, what Yeah, If
it's just like I'm like fantasy of it, then I'm
like I can totally just like like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm trying to to you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
I recently had phone sex, which I've never done in
my life, and it was so fun on the phone.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Vintage phone call.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, just a regular phone call, and it was spontaneous
and like.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
We were on the phone for like an hour and
a half.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
It's like so we were like building a scene and
like we were we were like, yeah, it was so
fun like the and I was like getting used to
like my voice earnestly saying things or whatever. And I'm
just like, I'm like, this is my sexual like self,
like my true like desire something. I'm like, let me
like try to like own it right now because I

(32:07):
hide behind it as like joking around and stuff, but
you know and being like yeah, you know doing these
bits and and even like live performances and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But I was like, let me try to like express
this in a true way.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
And then after like thirty minutes of that, then we
were like, so, like where did you grow up?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
So you know, I actually.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Think that people are onto something with this thing of
like if you like somebody really with gays like have
sex first and then go to dinner and stuff, because
then you don't have to like negotiate whatever the hell
lot all is, you.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
If you if you find that you can get on
the same page as someone like, oh, we like each
other and we're sexually interested in each other. I've actually
found that that's actually a nice way to date someone.
You feel like, Okay, we're not in our heads the
entire time, we're hanging out thinking about whether or not
we're gonna kiss, whether or not we're how far it's
gonna go. Like you figure that out immediately. If that

(33:11):
part doesn't go great, then you kind of save the
time totally. Not to say lead with sex and like
that's better, but I'm just saying as an option, it's been.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Especially if you get in your head like to kind
of like break the ice that way exactly. And then
especially because i feel like every date I'm getting better
with it. But i feel like I'm like a little
or instant that and I'm also thinking, like the whole time,
it's like there's like an intrusive thoughts. He's looking his

(33:42):
eyes shifted, like, oh, he's.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Just engaging for me.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's I'm always fixated on what. It's not about sex,
it's whether or not we're gonna kiss. I am crazy,
but I it feels the dates ending, like I'm like,
what's gonna happen, What's gonna happen? And I'm just like
and then and then on the outside, I'm just like
uh huh yeah, to the point where I'm like, when

(34:07):
the food comes, I actually get I get upset.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
When the why did you get upset?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Because when the food comes, it's like, oh my god,
Like we moved on to another stage of this, We're
getting closer to the we're gonna find.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Out that part.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's interesting that's entirely an anxious response you identify with that.
It's because I it's because we were actually just talking
about this on the walk over here, Like we have
two very different responses to being anxious.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Like I have like an.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Very anxious response to things, and he has like a
more like I guess what you call it, like a
depressive dude.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, it goes down, Yes, I go okay, like and
then and then it's just a downward slow But both do.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You mean like do you kind of withdraw or something?
Are you like this is like I withdraw?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
And this is to Matt's point about leading with sex
or just starting with it being I'm gonna say for me,
it sounds like the better option because this is what happens.
I've been on either side of this, where you go
on dates, they're great, and then for some reason, the
anxiety of sex coming up is the thing that like,
and if it doesn't go well, like what does this mean?

(35:12):
Then people pull away or they pull away before the
sex even happens. So then if you're ripping the steal
off of sex and then you're like, okay, pressure is off,
let's just get to know each other, like like the
pillow talk after the phone sex.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, it's like mostakes, right.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
They're also a lot less likely to perform like or
like be fake or be a version of yourself. That's
not true. If someone has already seen.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Like the whole up close, that's true. That's the way
with Balls went to a whole.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I mean, that's a lot too depressive anxious. That's just
sort of the binary up here.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Balls is depressed. Depression is so anxious. I just don't
balls for me.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Maybe it's because mine are so sensitive and whenever guys
are interacting.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
With them, it's like hurt.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's like painful when guys want me to like lick
their balls, stuck their balls.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Like, I'm just like, okay, I mean it's not my favorite.
I don't balls, but I love Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Don't crave it, but I'm like, this is cute balls.
Balls like depression. It's just something that's there. Are you
know what I mean? Do you like balls?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
It depends every now and the I'm like.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Balls, Are your balls resilient? I would say they are.
I've got good balls. Yeah, I think I do too.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I mean, it certainly work. It's just like I'm producing
but I don't. But they are incredibly sensitive.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Holes.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
All I am so sensitive. Whole is anxiety because it is,
am I gonna do this? You should do ans? You
should do that in the show. This is my impression
of a hole.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
You I feel insane. Oh my god, wait that's she.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm so much more comfortable with my hole than my balls,
like my w I.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Want to get there some hick golly. I really want
to get it. Damn, damn.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I don't know what it is like, but maybe it's
because whatever, Like I was so so so not okay
with anyone like doing whole stuff to me until later
and then when I became that way.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I was like, oh my god, it's like.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
That Solan Mile line for me.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yes, And you know what's crazy is like that's a
Mandy Moore song. And I think, like, you know, she
loves the podcast, like she's probably gonna hear me talk
about like.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Le my head back and pray see.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
To be.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
To be yours.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
I know, no, you Mile.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
You know it's not the first time we've done that
entire part of the song.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
When was the last time twenty eleven the earthquake.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I think it's happened since, but maybe maybe I probably do.
I don't know about y'all, but probably that comes up
as a thing to sing.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
At least once a year. Absolutely, yeah, at least.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, great songs. That really is one of the great
scenes in film. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
I also just love like like a recently rewatched Laguna
Beach and there's that did.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Did you see Cavalaries podcast? No, Elsie is on Christian
like huge, this is recent yeaheah, I have that culture.
I'm immediately going to watch that after this. Of course,
that tell us.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
What that is in terms of in terms of Kristin
and Elsie, in terms of your recent viewing of Theaguna beach. Yeah,
what was your take on Kristin and Elsie? I would
love to know in a twenty twenty five lens.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
I think, I mean, okay, from mind you, I watched
this five years ago, okay, and a lot has happened,
so you're watching.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, so everything was all fucked up blur Yeah that
was so.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
I don't necessarily remember so the details of their dynamic,
but I do feel like, I mean, I don't I
relate to both of them. I feel like Elsie was
a bit more like maybe insecure or something like.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
She seemed more ensurished to me, like she was always
Elsie was always I mean obviously like she's she's.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Watched She's.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
No for sure And this is a this is a
binary that makes perfect sense to me.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Elsie.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Remember when when Elsie like didn't go to Paris? Yes,
she think about it every day. I think about that
every day.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
What would you have done? I would have gone to Paris? Well? Yes,
what was the name of the guy Justin? Bobby?

Speaker 4 (40:28):
No, Justin Bobby is Audrina's guy? And what were your
what's your take on Audrina? Audrina is like I love her,
I love her. I love a person that's just like
kind of like smiling and kind of like dead eyed
a little bit. She's like I don't see, like what
I did wrong, Like I don't know if I feel

(40:51):
for her, Like I feel like she is like put
in these circumstances that are like stressful, and she's kind
of trying to like make things.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
I don't know, she's trying to diffuse things. Yeah, she's
trying to diffuse.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I really relate to that just anything that I'm doing
right now, Like this is my Audrena impression.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know, I will never put
she's uncomfortable when she's like happy like it's and it's
kind of like like I don't know, even like Corney
Kardashian has that too, but there's always a smile while
like they're the same tone.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I love that. Yeah, like I love that tone. The
same tone there.

Speaker 10 (41:25):
Wait is pussy if la la Lauren's balls, you know
what Adrena want?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Like this is my favorite Audrena Patrick's fact. And this is.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Something that I think do the math only I know, Okay,
if any of you know this, please let me know.
Audrina Patridge won an award for acting in Sorority Row It.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Was called the Show West Female Star.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Of Tomorrow Award that they gave to the entire cast
of Sorority Row, which people forget that Audrina Patrick was
in it, but so was rumor willis My entire cast
won this award, and I swear to god it was
the same award that like Anne Halfaway had won when
she was like.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Whoah, my god, every I'm gonna look why don't we
know this? I'm gonna look at.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Like the history of the female I don't know what
Sorority Row is either, but I want to.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I want to share a quick thing about Audrina Patridge.
What I don't know Sorority Row. No, you're a horror girl.
Oh no, share this, Share the Adrina story.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
I will never get my Audrina sort of thing that
I will always associate with her is there was an
US Weekly, mind you, this is the Midots where they
were doing celebrity diets and her quote it's her in
a bikini and then a big burst in a bubble.
It's her quote she says, sometimes you don't have to
eat the whole burger. I'll eat a burger, and I'll
have a couple of bites, and I'll put it down
and I thought at the time, Wow, that's so incredible

(42:46):
the most I'm sorry ed thing. Poor girls were fucking
on TV like in their in their teens and twenties,
like being like fucking like taken to apart. Like I
don't know if I don't know if the culture was
ever good around reality TV, like in terms of the audience,
but like I feel like with those hills, with those

(43:07):
Luguna Beach Hills people, I'm like, oh my god, you
you were you were put through the fucking ringer. And
I remember watching one episode of the City with Whitney
and then being done.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Literally I'm right, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Two thousand and nine, they won the Female Star of
Tomorrow and literally so was Vanessa Hudgens, Chris Pine, Emil
Hirsh Wow, Breslan Hia. This goes all the way back
to Mark Hamill won it, but Roberts in two thousand
and seven, look random, Ralph Jennifer Hudson one and six, like.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
What's this award called?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
It's the It's the Show West Star of Tomorrow Award,
And they would pick like a male and a female
and they would give out the awards and Audrina Patridge
as part of the cast of Sorority.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Wrote won this award. Wo wow, he was the most
recent person see it was. Yeah, they're still doing I
bet she's a fantastic actor. I don't think I've seen
her work. I think you kind of have to be
like in a vessel, a vessel.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
See, I think Elsie was maybe had more like was
too much, had too much space in the vessel, you
know what I mean, Like I was more. I love
Lauren Conrad for life. Yeah, I was watching for Spencer
and Heidi.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Oh you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean I could literally list all day,
and it's like it's like it's like a best New
Artist thing.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Who actually made it? Who didn't?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Like Hailey Steinfeld twenty thirteen made it totally anyway? Yeah no,
justin uh fucking Heidi and Spencer like they had staying.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Power too, they did and still like they're still in
the culture in a way.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Absolutely, you know what I mean. Oh, it makes news
when she didn't she because her Wig artist.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Her Wig artists like hop Off kind of pulled a
prank on her on a carpet recently. Oh real, yeah, yeah,
put her in the way. Her hairline was low that's all.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
That's all it happened. Yeah, truly, truly it does.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
It happened to me on that's it out Those hairlines
are right, no, Jody Queen. Yeah, wait, I want to
know more about this.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Well, you don't have to go into it. Wait any culture.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Here's a question, Richard Pres What was the culture that
made you say culture was for you? You know this
wasn't we actually have to have it.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
We're right, I've okay, by the way, I've listened to
this podcast for years stop since like I got into
it around like twenty eighteen. Really yeah, And like I
used to work like at an office job, and I
was just like listen this before I was performing, and
I was just like listen to you guys and like
find out about like so many comedians I'm like now

(45:41):
like such a big fan of and some of I've
become friends with, and like, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I didn't know that you didn't know.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
You never told us that, you never told us, Thank
you for that and they and so this like feels
so surreal to be chatting with both of you.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
We love a guest and.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Actually and I remember one time I met you really
briefly at Metro but it was like such a quick exchange,
and I was like so starstruck, and I was like.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
I was like, I listened to your podcast.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
I love like you were he yeah, I think you
put your hand in my face and then.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
You get a shot. I'm trying to take my shot.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, and then you had a big poofy dress made
your ass.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Oh so you're gas lighting my ass? Now, well you
you had the bounce.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh my god, that thing. I always wondered what that.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Know, that's a gay thing. It's like where we all
want to know what that we all wish we had.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
I know, I think of like Cinderella, like.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Like come come girls, and yeah, they bounced, come come,
come girls.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
And they would say and then they would snarl on
the way out.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Because here's the thing about Cinderella's stepmother and the sister.
They at least knew they were awful. Yeah, but they
knew they were rotted. They never even tried to be nice.
They were never they They lived it, snorted it, and
fucked it.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah. Truly, yeah truly.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
So what was the culture that made so sorry, so sorry,
so funny enough that we're talking about the hills and
all this stuff. I wrote down in my notes that
my culture okay, so this isn't okay, it's too The
year two thousand and seven is what I will say
is my answer for like culture that made me say

(47:36):
cultures for me, like, I feel like it's such a
big year in media culture like the world, but but
even just like personally for me, I feel like that
was definitely like a time that I took things in
in a different way and especially trying to visualize like
what my life could look like and starting to have
like really more vivid dreams of like, oh, like a

(47:58):
city life of you know, either La or New York
or you know. Gossip Girl came out there like there
was I don't know even like the music like getting
like more like indie and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Like I feel like that was around that time. What
were the what were the touch points?

Speaker 4 (48:14):
So gossip Girl, Brittany, the gossip Girl, Brittany blackout, Blackout
of course, uh.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I started working at Panera. Bread was this already so
bread was already huge though, right there's actually the pan
was like the new girl in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I literally pana Bread will always live on the same
byeline to me as Kristin Cavalari.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I mean, I do, I do feel like.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I do feel like they were both at their imperial
phase at the same time, Panera Bread and Christian And
by the way, I have Panera Bread like three times
a week.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
You know, I have two all the time.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
But I can recognize that it was around that time
that they were out their peak.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
You picked two is still to this day one of
the best food systems.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, period, absolute and you.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Don't need more than that. No, No, here's what i'd say.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
You get your half sandwich and I always do get
the bowl of soup.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Yeah, I sometimes get a salad. I get the food once.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
In a while. But I started working Panera two dozand
and seven, So I started. I worked at Panera Bread
in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
All the task they would like, move us around, so
like I mostly did, like cashier or like I clean
the like dining room like duty they liked so soa
stream too, the Panera Bread. Didn't you think Panana Bread
was one of the chains and Delta Work knows what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Always their soda machines I felt were some of the
better quality.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, really good carbonation.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah, but also Okay, Like when I started working there,
they told us and train that, you know, like their
ethos or I don't know, like they were kind of
just like we're a break from the day to day
like life, you know, like work and all this crazy commotion.
That were an oasis from all of that.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
So we would never number one, that was what you
were told. But they were like, we would never open
in a major city lying there, we would never do that.
That's capitalism for you.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
So then like that's two seven.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
But then what's crazy is that went because then like
I when I went to college, like when I was
in Delaware, I would work at. I would be home
on the holidays or summer and I would work at
in Jersey. Yeah, and so then I would work there again.
But then I was officially done with it when I moved.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
To New York.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
And then Guests they open. They opened in twenty eleven
into J Street.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
J Street Metro Tech.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, because I feel like I associate the the New
York pera as you know, where I'm going to say
to Chelsea one, I was gonna say Union Square one.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Of course, the Union Square one closed, I think so,
and so.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Did the TGI Fridays, the city is going down Zorn
save us.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Why is that not the theme song?

Speaker 9 (51:21):
You can use?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
This is huge for his campaign. We're gonna play this
for him. Please send it to he can use it
for free. That's so free busses free song.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Yeah, you give me the free busses.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I you had a texture on that one that was giving,
that was giving like Springsteen. Ye you ever like you
ever think about throwing on up at the end like
Jennifer Holiday.

Speaker 7 (52:00):
The Road.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Like wait, yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
So I started working at Pana Brad and then also
I started going to New York City for the first time,
like alone or with friends, so without without my parents
and so like like one of my friends, like she
moved to our town a few years prior and she

(52:33):
grew up in Brooklyn, and so she moved to New
Jersey from Brooklyn. So she and she was like so stylish.
She just like had fantastic taste too, and like music
like everything.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I just thought she was so cool and so.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Like like me her and like my like bestie. Like
we would go like she would be like, you guys,
want to come with me to so and you know,
we can go shopping and then you know, I was
just starting to make money at Panera Bread, so like
I would save some of that, and then we go

(53:13):
to Soho and go to like American Apparel and Urban
Outfitters and like that was like catour and like that
was that first So like, no one, this isn't in
our malls just yet, yeah, or if it is, it's
like far away from the one that I.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Remember American Apparel being.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I actually distinctly remember walking in there the right across
from NYU Tish there was one yes, and I remember
being like, I'm gonna buy something nice for myself.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I'm going to really splurge and spend fifty bucks.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Yeah, yes, yeah, I was like fifty four screens, zip
a puddy twenty eight dollars T shirt, send.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
The first wash. But the deep fees? Were you doing
a deep fee? Yes, we all were.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Come on, But if you're out here saying I never
wore a V neck, yes it is unless you were
Mandela acting.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
You were in a different time on that Merger Tower.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Don't look like, yeah, I like you're not a whole.
Don't act like you're not balls exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Even if it wasn't like a deep V you were
doing a V you were doing because they did give
There was different iterations of the V neck there. Remember
there was the one because I remember for reality show
we had have to wear them. There was there was
a shallow V which I chose, and there was a
deep yes which some people were choosing. And it was
the very frosted tipped vibes at the time where I
was like, I know that's not going to age.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Well, no one's gonna like later the pictures of you
and the deep thing.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Oh my god, a deep V on someone who had
the tits was so important.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, you know what I mean, I need to see that.
I need to see that. I miss cleavage.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, male cleavage, any cleavage. Well, female cleavage is still around,
not as much.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Remember a couple of years ago when people were doing
the thing, like male celebrities were doing the thing of
like just a jacket nothing underneath, right, Yeah, and then
you know it was over when the other two made
fun of it.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
I beg my friend, my best friend Olivia, I like
beg her like every other day. I'm like, just please
show them you're a book gay like me.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, totally, I am. We're out here.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah, you know what I mean, and I'm just like,
show it, come on, what do you want to see?

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Like the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm always like joking with her.
I'm just like, she's like, what should I wear to
like this event or whatever? And I'm just like, well,
I have to body con, like fucking like tit's pouring out.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, yeah, just like a really like body con. Bring
that back. Yeah I want. And she's like, no, I want.
I want body con for guys. Yeah, me too. You
know what I mean. I would wear that body stalking
for guys.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
They have it, I know, but it's like it's like
a wrestling singlet you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Have you ever worn male spanks? Yes? I have kind
of fun I was living.

Speaker 11 (55:58):
I'm like, yeah, it's very.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Diet pepsi.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
They should collab Son and Addison that it would got
honestly diet pepsi with Son from back in the day
wrapping on a future. My god, how you get elected
this November?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Oh my god. That's how you get the.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
People on the phone, That's how you get the clomo
sexuals to come your way.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Sure, sexuals are politically homeless, now, you know what I mean.
I don't know where to go. Come here, come here,
come here, come here. Wait. So I think we need
to really explore two thousand and seven in Yes, Yes, Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So besides Panera, what was so great about it the
Hills is the peaking.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Yeah, Hills was peaking. Gossip Girl Chess came out, and
like I also feel like and this might be so dumb,
and I think maybe just like growing up or something,
and also like things have changed tremendously of course since then,
like in Little World, but like I felt like at

(57:13):
that time like indie movies or indie music or something
like felt like oh me, and like five people in
New Jersey know about this, no one else like you
truly feel yeah, like I'm like no one else knows
about passionate it. But they were actually like they were
very big, and now things are just so much more
broken down or something or much much more.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
It's ironic.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
It's like things that you think would be more mainstream
today are actually a niche. And then the things that
you were like convinced that was it was just Carly,
you and five other people were huge.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Things were yeah massive, So like Rylo Kylie, like I
remember like VH one, like artists who I don't know,
or something that felt like a true like I'm like, oh,
we're stepping into this like unknown territory or something.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Did you ever like did you guys ever like go
to like Borders or Barnes and Noble and like flipped
through like Spin magazine, Yeah, and you'd be like, oh
my god, Spin, Oh my god, I can't say yeah,
like who who are they?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yeah, Sufion steven I'm specifically thinking of my friend Allison Guela,
who was my bestie in high school and we would
do these things together. Passion Pit was huge for her,
and what you just said, which was Sufian Stevens, was
huge for her. And I remember we went to go
see the movie Five Hundred Days of Summer and I
thought it was like I thought I saw like Red

(58:30):
Rocket was.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I was like, I just saw the indie film.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah year and it was literally like, well in two
thousand very successful movie. In two thousand and seven, Juno
came out, Yeah, and that had a tremendous influence, Like
what part on me? Just like the tone of the movie,
the like the acting, the music, the soundtrack was just like,

(58:54):
oh I brought I used to bring a bag of
CDs with me everywhere. I would I I've always been headphones.
I've always been headphones. I've always been headphones on my
whole life, like or at least like like the a
few years leading into two thousand stuff I get you
know me too, because I would always just like bring
them with me and just kind of like and I
brought a little bag with CDs and and I would

(59:16):
just like change them if I wanted to, and uh
kind of just like start.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Living in my little world. But also like it was
a bit of a defense like or a protective thing
because people definitely would shout things like from their car
and you know, like say like unkind things. And so
I was just like, okay, like this I'm listening to
you know, Coldplay, like Mariah cold Play, like Vampire Weekend.

(59:42):
Like I'm like I'm good, Like I'm just like, you know,
having a day right now. And so jo I felt
like that just that soundtrack was just like really really influential,
and I don't know, that was like one of those
projects that made me think like, oh.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Maybe I don't know, I want to like in.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
A real way, I'm asking this, did you feel like
seen by the character, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
So yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I guess, I guess
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, because humor was a defense mechanism for her. Totally yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
And and then also I just developed a massive crush
on Michael Sarah and that led me to like arrested development.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Oh, like Nick.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Is infinite and I was just like, Okay, well I
got to move to New York.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
That's beautiful. Nick is such an underrated Yeah. But Juno,
you know what seeing I'm like that Elli Page doesn't
get the credit for is when after like Jason Bateman
like puts a move on Juno and she the character Juno,
like gets in the van drives pulls over to the

(01:00:46):
side of the road, and it's just that shot of Junia's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Best car c truly so underrated, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
It's so heartbreaking, really good hands on the wheel breakdown act. Yeah,
and the time when it wasn't a trope, right, not really,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
But also recently someone referenced this like as a joke
and I was like, it just like took me back
because I haven't watched that movie in a while. But
the like part where they do a montage with like
sea of love like hat power. I love that, and
she's like, like Juno is like I think I think

(01:01:25):
he was always hers and then it cuts to like Jennifer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Ge the note that said if you're in, I'm in. Yeah,
and I was like, but you know, not to interrupt.
The jam sash was an improvised line by Jennifer Garner.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Really love that. I love that her rate of the
Patty Saver. Can you hear me be b Jennifer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Jennifer Garner in that era was in her bag. By
the way, thirteen going on thirsday.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I saw that for the first time, Like, what is
that as weeping?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I didn't expect it to be that, Like, it's incredibly
it's phenomenal, by the way, Like also all of Alias,
this was like what made j j Abers Yeah yeah, yeah,
in many ways like this this was like she's like Alias,
there's certainly no.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Loss because Jennifer Garter, there's no Alias popping off the
way to yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yeah, they were in tandem.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
No, Jennifer, the pilot of Alias is one of the
great pilots. Like they it's just so good. It's Jared
Frieder's favorite show of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Yeah, my god, he loves alias. You know, Jared, we
heard along grade.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
I feel like we should just like very intensely focused
in on like indie culture in that time, because it
did to slowly fall apart. I would stay around twenty thirteen,
Yeah twelve like that we didn't know how good we
had it about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah, it because they started to say a thing like
the hipster thing like went out of control?

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Was that was that in handem with this? No, I don't.
I don't know, like did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Your friend who lived who came from Brooklyn? Did she
like because because we because we actually talked about this
Josh and Aaron on their episode a couple of weeks
ago where it was like behind every gay guy like
millennial gay guy is like a straight girl and honors
English quote unquote, who like told you like what to
listen to, told you what to watch?

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Yeah, what to do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
So this girl, Kayla stirback one year from my birthday,
bought me The Hipster Handbook, which was like totally off
of Urban Outfitters, but back then that was like the
cool thing to do buy books from urban The whole
thing was like hipsters don't call themselves hipsters, Like yeah,
like hipsters like just like moving, silence and all these things,
and like, yeah, I think it did like go out
of control with like I don't know, like something, you

(01:04:04):
know what, something kind of like I'm gonna I'm gonna
put something out there once like so Lunge came on
the scene and like bridge the gap between like indie
hipster music and like pop music in a way like
things started to like blend into one and then totally

(01:04:25):
absumed because beyond it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Doesn't get the credit for everything. It trickled up, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
I had literally just moved here and like losing you
in the music video, yeah, oh my god, and the
same with like two and two, like yeah, like dancing
on my own like Robin, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Like that, there was this like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
It did feel like there was there was like mainstream
pop at the time, and then there was like what
the cool girls were doing even in music at large,
not to just say pop because we actually we were
in Paris like a couple of weeks ago. We were
seeing Beyonce and we were talking about Beyonce about how
everything changed between I Am Sasha Fierce and four and

(01:05:11):
we were talking about like what it was, and it
was like obviously when she got rid of Matthew, her
dad as her manager. But really I think it was
so lange.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
I think so lange.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Being as cool and having less expectation than Beyonce made
Beyonce look at her sister and be like I want
to do what my sister is doing or something closer
to that. So I'm like yep, because then then was that.
Then after that was the digital title.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
A Man because it was so lange and it was
so luge going to like a Dirty Projector's concert. Totally,
it was Beyonce and jay Z going to a Grizzly
Bear concert beach House, beach House. That's that's when things
started to sort of like true, you know what I mean?
And I think I do think pop music swallowed a

(01:05:59):
little bit of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Up totally, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Absolutely so yeah, because it's and now it just feels
like I can't tell if like how what's where we're
at now with like, oh, pop music or like what
would like what would be alternative or like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Well, because in that time I was like eighty totally
like right, like I don't know. My listening habits now
are so weird where I'm like I like ten years
ago now, twelve years ago, twenty thirteen, I was like,
you know what, I am really going to curate these
like these like unknown artists, these like these like artists
that feel very independent along with like my pop music, and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Now it is all pop. Yeah, I've lost that like totally.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
It Also, pop now means so many things as genre
has broken down, Like now it's.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Like like Addison, like yep, you know, like she's pop.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
She's she feels she's like so straightforward pop.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
But that's because I think, and I think one of
the reasons why she's like the pop girl of the
moment is because it does she's like weirdly playing with
a lot of retros.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
As well of life.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
That's why it feels like and that that's what makes
it feel the most current.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Like I feel like I have not kept up in
the ways that I should. When I'm like, oh, there's
a great new like Spoon album out, and I'm like,
and I don't know if I like gave them the
regular listening that I like Since like twenty twenty eleven,
twenty twelve, I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Don't even know what Spoon is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Oh spoon oc coded soundtrack, Yes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I had the soundtrack. Yeah, my bag of CDs I
was in there. Was it okay? Was it an actual
back or was it bind a bag?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
And then and then I had a binder too, But
I think I would like have the binder home and then.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Bring it was too big. It's too big, So.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Then I would just like bring a few CDs. I
would like make us select which ones. I'm like, okay,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Was it Windows Media Player burning or was it iTunes?

Speaker 10 (01:08:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
No, no, these were I bought. I was too scared
jump the Torrent. I was way too scared to like
down viruses or getting either getting down your door.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Yeah. I was literally like something will happen. It did
feel at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
It was like they'll come get me download something really yeah,
like the lawsuits that were happening in the news.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
It was like, oh, that's like I'm next.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Because I had a crazy napster like I was, I
was a thief.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I was like, really really really download a lot of
bad stuff, not us.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
The viruses that your computer would get to would be
so crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
No, they'd be normally they and then there's so much
that the virus narrative really stayed with you for a while,
like I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Still pretty pretty scared of like down the well. Then
they said, oh, what's Apple? You can't get viruses?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I really can't, but yeah you can't get crew. You
don't really get viruses on Apple stuff anymore. Yeah, I
don't think so the list, but I mean, who knows.
It seems like anything can happen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
But yeah, this is the perfect device. You know, you
have so much to learn see this? Yeah? What is that?
Did you get that? Break the I love it? It's

(01:09:25):
so good. This is not selfie. Wait we get in
I'm over here. This is gonna be the photo of
the episode. Ready, hold on, get in on. It has
to be that. That will be.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Not come to you to do You're gonna break that, Cara?
That is really cool. I love it. Make it's the
new flip phone. We're not to take this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
What I love to be like such a little like
it makes me feel like a little coquettish. When I
met in my bathroom and I just like do like
that's in the mirror, and then I take a FaceTime
while I'm like, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Talk to me? What's going on? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yeah, but I do feel that when I want to
do that a mirror because I need to that you
see the it's not a perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Science, but I need to get one. I have to you.
But he's got that's what this is? What this is ball?
It's a fidget spinner on this makes so much sunsee balls.
Literally this is sucking up.

Speaker 12 (01:10:52):
Oh my god, it's my phone books. Oh so now

(01:11:17):
you know it's really and yours is like for everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
At home that's just listening to this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
We are sort of looking at each other's phone, said
I I have I have something that like you can
stick to the mirror and picks your phone up and
Bowen has.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Puffe gender jiggly puff right now, Yeah, what is in
the show?

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
What's the jigg puffs gender in the show? Because Bowen
thinks he knows that I think are now I think
jiggly puff in the show? Is he Okay, that's not
what Bowen thinks. I think she she her day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Them say them, I don't think any of the Pokemons
have gender.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
That's me. Actually they really don't they do they actually
maybe something is that? Is that actually true?

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Of course you Oh you guys haven't played since Gen one.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
It's been so long. So there's no female Pikachu. There
is a female Pikachu. It looks she looks the same
as a male Pikachu. The only thing at Pokemon that
that appear different and involved different branch out evolutionarily based
on their gender. So Nita Ran goes tonoh arena or
need arena, and then queen. But then there are other

(01:12:31):
things where like a female you know, uh, a female
I think uh snore un goes into uh frost lasts.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
That means I recognize that this is the only one, right, Like,
there's only one of the three.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
There's one. There's one Mew, there's one. There's one legendary bird.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Yeah, legend jinks Jinx, yes, Jinx is there's some mil
Tank is always female. Jinx is always female. Yes, you
know what.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Pokemon I literally never got to fuck with because I
didn't have the version of the game that they were in.
I think they were in blue version and I only
had red and then yellow. Magmar I could never fuck
with Magmar. Never don't even know her, never matter him,
I don't know. Yeah, it depends there is that one
can be both gender.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
There there are yes, most Pokemon are are are are
any gender.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Doesn't matter if you love him or capital H.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I am.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
You were born. Mama told.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
Superstar money.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Wrong.

Speaker 13 (01:14:07):
Love it who you are, she said, because it made
you perfect.

Speaker 9 (01:14:11):
Baby.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
The right your fun you had to fall in my
way is comic. Sou say, I'm on the right trying
to baby.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I was born this way. I tried to yourself and
regret yourself, and you said, I'm on the right track.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Baby, I was born this way.

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
This way.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
First heard that song, I was in Delaware, and I, yeah,
that changed my life. DoD Go is huge for you, Yes,
Like that was like because I also I wasn't like
out necessarily to anyone. I mean in high school there's
few people I would like talk to about it. Yeah, yeah,

(01:15:04):
like like three or four friends or at least. Yeah,
and also like my best friends also like a gay guy,
so like no, but like but we were we like
grew up together and like you know, we had each
other to like go through all that. So that was
like really really like I was so lucky and yeah,

(01:15:25):
like I feel like in college just going out and
you know, meeting new friends, like meeting new people, Like
I was just so scared of like that, like anyone
finding out, even though I've always been exactly like this
and so like you know, but still like it was like,
you know, so then when that came out, like I

(01:15:48):
was kind of just like I also I developed a
crush on this guy that I became friends with. It
was my first like crush on a guy. Yeah, and
I feel that I had, yeah, that feeling. So I
was like, did I went crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Find out? I told Eventually I like broke down and
I told him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Was it that you broke down and told him that
you were gay? You broked and told him that you
were gay and had feelings for him?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Wow? And was he kind?

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
He was so kind about it. I was like, I
was very like crazy about it. And yeah, but that
but that that came that that single came out in
the beginning of that year of like twenty eleven, from
my memory of it, and then that summer like that
was the last time I saw him and I never

(01:16:37):
saw him again. But then that summer that album came out,
I think or something wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Yeah, yeah, right? Is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
And Gaga and Got and Born This Way Skidmore? But ok,
the Born This Way of single came out to February
of twenty eleven. Yes, and yeah, yeah, so wow. So
that was February. And then that was when Matt and
I were like kind of like bombing for the first
time meaningfully. We were like screaming at singing, singing born

(01:17:10):
this way and then.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I forget that that song was a part of that. Yeah,
I think you know what this is. Famously, it took
me a little bit longer to get fully on board, sure,
but actually was gon until art Pop that I was
like writing hard for God.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Yeah, I definitely that's hard.

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
Part.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Also, like I was for Halloween twenty thirteen, I was
like her vm A performance The Mermaid, that the White Boy,
that was can feel yourying your hand.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
Meeting ready.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
It's so.

Speaker 7 (01:18:09):
That is what I was best performances and was like
applause Yeah, and then all those changes of costume changes,
like oh my, I like I rewatch that still when
I need like inspiration.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Mac Taylor Swift's favorite lady song really.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
She plays before every aerstor Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
One Dog says that Taylor Scheff came up to her
at a party and was like, I love applause And
she was at first like, Okay, this girl coming up
telling me she likes applause?

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Why because it's like the last single.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Yeah yeah, and then like legitimately, like in private, people
would be like, Taylor is black laughing applause. Right now
she was like, Okay, this girl is the real She actually.

Speaker 9 (01:18:50):
Loves a law.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
It's like she plays it there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
It's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
I'm actually inspiring me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
And I'm gonna I'm gonna go there for my I
don't think so, honey, and it's it's gonna look it's
I might be like biting the hand.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
What do you mean biting the hand?

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Just just you wait, just you wait. And this makes
me nervous. No, no, no, not biting the hand. I'm
just saying, like, there's something that I want as a
as a true little monster, and we're all little monsters here.
There's something that I think should happen. But I you know,
I say this as a as a fan, of course,
but I just want to point out that born this way,

(01:19:30):
people like you are you saying that there is a
direct link between you coming out and that that album
coming out, Like this is the thing that people don't
realize that was like that unleashed something in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
It gives permission to a lot of people like and
you have that's why people ride so fucking hard for Gaga,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Absolutely actually found recently found I have like a few
bins of just like college, like because I studied photography,
so like, I have like negatives and slot like pictures whatever,
and like paperwork notebooks, and so I found a little
notebook I guess I used to bring around with me.
I don't really remember this, but I found a page

(01:20:13):
that a loose page, just like torn off, and I
wrote quotes that I guess I was inspired by. I
literally wrote, like, wait, what was it like born this way?

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Yeah, it was born this way lyrics I heard exactly
which one people don't really.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
I think it's so easy for people that have been
either been in cities for a long time or exposed
to you know, more complex kinds of social dynamics and
social scenes and sexual sexualities and things like that, like
people take for granted how important it is to be
explicit sometimes in messaging. Yes, because I feel like, you know,

(01:20:52):
before Gaga, obviously there was Madonna. Madonna like was like,
you know, like her messaging was very explicit, and then
of course, like she do so much work, that was
then more like, you know, for her experimental and things
like that, and then people were able to get on
board with it, but only because she had been made
an explicit connection with her fans and her messaging and

(01:21:13):
so Gaga saying you are born this way and it
doesn't matter what you are, You're amazing, Like that opens
the door to then literally art pop, which was so
many things hard to quantify, how hard to boil down.
But it's like that with Chapel Roone too, you know
what I mean, Like Pink Pony Club. This is a
place that I'm explicitly uh like realizing for you where

(01:21:37):
you belong. And I think sometimes people it's almost like
why overcompensating I think is connecting so much too, because
it's there is power and there is real like benefit
to just being explicit and clear because so many people
need that even if like we may not or you
may not, there was a time that you really did.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Yeah, so that's so beautiful, that's so true. I think,
like it's so easy to or not easy and it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
The right word.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
It's like we just take it for granted. Yeah we do,
We truly do. And I think sometimes like to create
things too, and sometimes you want to hide behind the
direct the actual messaging of something, which totally makes sense
sometimes as an artistic choice or an expression or something
like maybe sometimes you don't want to be so deliberately

(01:22:29):
you know, like this is what this is a you
know whatever, but like and there's power in that too,
and like people interpreting things for sure, But but it
is like songs like that absolutely just like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Enter your like heart and yeah, oh they're telling and
it's exactly what it is that I feel like that's
exactly it like, and I think sometimes there's like especially
twenty eleven like that whole because there was also so
much like you know, in detail, and this type of
that also had like was so expressive too and felt

(01:23:07):
so like but also I felt like I was constantly
on song meanings dot Com like okay, now what Yeah,
I'm so stirred and like moved by these songs, but
like what the hell does this mean?

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Right, you know?

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
And I'm like yeah, and I'm still I'm still like
kind of trying to you know, and I'm like, well,
you know, but but then at the same time, something
like that to come out and also to just like
pierce through and and just like pull out your heart
and yeah and just be like you know, it's okay and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Yeah because it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
How like the lyrics to Born this Way are so straightforward,
and like the story of it is so straightforward, but
she was doing such crazy stuff in terms of style
and aesthetics and even sound yea that it's like it's
like it's I remember when it came out and people
were like, oh, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Like like the cynical.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
People were like, this is like more basic than something
like Bad Romance or poker Face that had like layers
to it, Like poker Face is kind of like when
you read it on the page, you're kind of like,
what is this, Like it's it's it's dealing in metaphor, right,
Whereas like Born this Way wasn't, And like there was
this idea that like it was like more basic and

(01:24:17):
that was bad. But like, I don't think it's basic
to be explicit. I think you know, like you can
you just get away with other things and you find
other ways to dynamicize.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
If that's a word what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Yeah, right, that sounds like a word.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Sound like a word.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
But I wonder if we if we looked it up,
if it would be dynamic I think I actually.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Have like dynamicizize dynamicized Gayhearten.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Dynamicize dynamicism. Can you can you do what you do?
You remember what you did during when we were doing
the earthquake.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Like, oh yeah, that would you when when the earthquake happened,
you guys liked it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
You're like, yeah, yeah, it was that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
Oh oh my god. Now again starting out, oh god, this.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Is holy, Oh baby, wait, this bit is my This
actually is my second favorite bit that you do. Do
you know what the first one is, I don't have
to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
It's you on the roller coaster.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Oh yeah, because I never in my live show, which
everyone you've never seen anyone to perform well not only
being a roller coaster, being on a is it that
you're on a date on a roller coaster and you're
sort of pretending you're okay with what's happening, but you're
very scared.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
I'm very scared to go on the ride. I've never
been on a roller coaster before. And then it builds
up and it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Because one of the things he literally gets so right
is the g forces, Like when it wastes on your.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Body, you kind of pass out and you kind of going.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I remember just I forgot where you were doing it,
but I was watching it and I was just like
feeling so seen because it reminded me of like Nitro,
you know, when you're going on the helix at the
end and you're like, oh you pass out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
I remember Anna Gastier was there too, Oh my god.
It was that it was so like she was there
her yea, she so like she was into it. She
was so like easy to talk, very warm.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Whenever you were whenever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Because now we've been lucky enough to be around a
lot of those women that like when we were coming,
which is like the one and like it'll happen more
and more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
But the thing is like you are.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Nervous because you care so much what they think, but
then you realize they're just sketch comedians too, you know
what I mean. So it's it's so surprising how quickly
it can go from like you know, the reference to
also be like like there's that there's that person making
their noises and doing their things and doing their bits,
which is really like who they are, but yeah, they

(01:27:10):
are these I just want to go up to Amy
Poehler and be like me, you could love it. We
hope you're watching this, Amy, Amy, Amy, this is Richard.
You need to know rich lovely to meet you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Thank you for listening this far if you have, and
I hope you're having.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
I hope she didn't turn it off with the whole part.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Hear this? Enough of this? God damn it, this is this,
this is her? Get this? You know, what's a good bit?
Remember when Rachel wanted to do you used to do
this bit? It would be it would be have you

(01:28:01):
been with it since grew days? Guys? I think there's something,
there's something something on. This is going to be crazy.
That was scary. It was so scary. My gosh, I'm

(01:28:23):
so serious. Be careful. I knew it. What was that?
I liked it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
This is all those episodes that people are gonna be like,
we can't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
A YouTube channel.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
YouTube as you know, wait is doing this and is
the bunny feet. That's photography major.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
I you know, that's part of my photographic practice that
I take pictures a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
But I do want to get back into it. But
you know, how to present something visual or communicate something visually.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
I think compositionally a lot that's perfect comedy too. Maybe yeah,
of course, describe what you mean, like like even just
like building up my show, like I was like thinking
in that like cinematically a little bit, or just kind
of like or when I'm envisioning myself in the scenes
or something, it's like I'm thinking from a I'm like, oh,

(01:29:28):
like this would be like here, yeah, we got to
get you a special or something.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Yeah, like if this one you're working on now, would
you hope to televise it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
I would yeah, and I hope to do like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
More if it was really like one of the experiences.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
I was just like I love acting. Yeah, yeah, I
really you are an actor? Are like you are like
like I feel like some people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
This is not to say, but I feel like this,
Like I did comedy because I wanted to act. I
don't know, I think a lot of gay guys, yeah,
queer people totally out here, Like I I didn't see
like doing comedy for myself, Like I never thought I'd
be that person, like doing sets like it was all
it means.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
To an end. I don't know how you guys feel.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
I was weirdly like wanting to yeah, I was wanting
to act, but I was like I didn't give myself
the permission to it. So I was like I would
be so happy and like a writer's like a staff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Job, because you and your in your head were like
mitigating it to that to not like.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
Yeah, I'd be like I'm not gonna be in I'm
not gonna be in movies or anything like truly, honestly,
I'm not gonna They're not No one's gonna want to
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
So it was like self protection but also something you
convinced yourself was true.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Yeah, Like I would like stop at like Simpson's episodes
and be like, Okay, who wrote that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Okay, oh this person?

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
You know, Like I like I got really irolly granular
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Yeah yeah, but do you know, do you know how
what that was for you? Like what what compelled you
to perform?

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
I feel like ultimately, I mean around this time, you know,
two thousand and seven, I feel like I I was
thinking about going to the auditioning to like get into
a program or something. Privately, I didn't really I talked
to like maybe one or two friends about that in
high school, but like I was way too scared and
I was just like, oh, like I don't know, like

(01:31:21):
people will I think it was more like, you know,
just being closeted and being like, oh, like I don't
know people will like sniff it out and make fun
of me or I don't know, Like there was something
like yeah, and so I was just like, there's no
way I'll ever do that. But then I felt I
did fall in love with like photography, and that's a

(01:31:42):
different perspective and like and that was so thrilling and
I love doing that. So I'm just like when I
just like look at you know, photo books, or like
I'm at an art show or just even like just reminiscing,
I'm just like, oh yeah, I'm so like captivated by this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
But I feel like comedy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
Uh, I love performing live, like I have so much fun.
But I don't know if like I see myself, yeah,
like having like like stand up set or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
What you do is so beyond that. Like that's when
I feel I feel like you're like caper Land, You're
like Cola Scola, Like that's Richard, you know what I mean.
Like I feel like you can do whatever you want
to do because you're that good. I really feel like
so safe when you're performing, Like I really and I
really feel like what you do is like brand new
and so specific to you. That's like one of the
reasons why, like I don't know, it's it's like I

(01:32:41):
haven't sometimes I'm like I haven't been around in a while.
I know, I feel that way absolutely, like like watching
shows and stuff. But you make me excited to go
watch like live stuff again. Yeah, thank you so much.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
So people should be going to see Yeah, definitely. I
haven't been to Union Home so much. True, hold in
a long time. July twelve, Come with me, Oh, be in. God, well,
I'm gonna be out. You'll just come back. I'm right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Well to do I don't think so, honey. And my
thing is, I don't have one yet. So can you
go first, because you definitely do.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Yeah. Sure, and maybe something in yours will inspire me. Well,
I mean I have one. No, no, no, I'll come first.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
I mean I'm gonna have one, but and it will
happen here we go, So all right, I mean, should
we be nervous, No, I'm not nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
This is Boneniangs. I don't think so, honey. His time
starts now, I don't think so, honey. Please please, I
need an art pop song in the Mayhem Ball just one, yeah,
one that would be good.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
I understand go goa that that was a very very
tumultuous time in your life. But here we are talking
about art pop in the way that we have the
patina on that, and now we say, if you gave
us applause, hopefully you think that that is a song
that has aged enough, you have enough distance from that

(01:34:08):
time in your.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Life that you may seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
It is such a brilliant narrative if you're saving it
for the narrative for I'm not going to do anything
off of art pop for a decade. Now we're on
a decade of no art pop live anywhere. It would
be so major, it would be such a ufort second
lease for the little.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Monsters out there. I'm not saying I'm not telling you
what to do, Gaga.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
I love you. I would die for you. You don't
have to say think about anything that I say. Five second,
but I think I would weep. And I'm not a
crier because I'm on Ssriyes, I would weep if you
sang any song off urt pop.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
And that's one minute.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
See I'm not on an SSRY, and I feel that
I'm confident.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
You would cry. I would. I absolutely know for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
That yeah, absolutely, because I feel like I what would
happen to me if she performed from art pop is
I would be on the floria like dead, like not alive.
So the fractionally you have to at least be crying.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Of course, I think applause is sort of the safest
choice for her and for us. It's like people would
get excited for applause. She would sing applause, and it's
like it's it's so, it's so conceptually interesting. It's obviously
had a life of its own since eras tour. Truly,
it's such a thing starts Okay, the show is about
to start, like they're playing applause, like it has lived

(01:35:26):
on in such a such a beautiful way.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
You just got to say, I have I have my
I don't think so, honey, based on this question. Okay,
and it's it's again, it's a roll of the dice,
and I'm gonna risk it because I really.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Do believe this risk it. This is Matt Rodgers. I
don't think so many as time starts now, I.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Don't think so, honey, can we not?

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
I understand we're not supposed to use the term gypsy,
but can we.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Listen to and love the song Gypsy please?

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Like I feel like sometimes there's like a little bit
of angst on the song Gypsy because of the term gypsy, like,
but I feel like that is a pee a. Gypsy
is one of the great Lady Gaga songs, and like it's,
It's also opens the door for so many other things.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
I kind of believe it opens the door to like
Babylon in a.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Way, like It's is like a brand of Lady Gaga
song that I don't want to forget, like, and I
really feel like it's an important installment and it's important
Cannon and Gaga culture. I think it would tear if
Gaga did Gypsy at the May I really, I think
it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Hit everyone so much harder. I think applause.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Obviously, I'm adonna tell Astan I think it would go crazy. Yeah, please,
I mean, but Gypsy, and I don't want us to
be afraid of it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
I think we all know the deal. But Gypsy, hey,
I do think so, honey, I'm gonna gypsy Gypsy hey,
don't you know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
I feel like there was a little bit of a
time there and that like sort of like you know,
like over correct the time period.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
We can't do gypsy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
And I'm like you guys, like if we if we're
gonna comb through all of Gaga's lyrics, like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Not We're not gonna like it's just not just such
a great The.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Brand of song that you're talking about, that Goga something
you're talking about is like when she is doing when
she's just at the piano doing her channeling maybe Billy
Joel or Elton, like I love go go at the
piano Germany, in Germany, in Germany, like.

Speaker 7 (01:37:22):
These mustache, the mustache, Oh my god, like our pop
era which she was had the blonde bleached mustache and
she had the contacts in.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
I mean like that, that's my god. The only way
I can describe it as like it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
You know what else it speaks to, which also really
should be performed is the edge of glory pop songs
ever ever. And so the fact that that that's the
same brand, the same tone, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
I think, I think and so far like the Gaga
Cella moments, Goga Cabana, like all those like Singapore this
like pre mahem balld Tour sheet like the piano songs have.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Been shallow yea, yeah, and yeah, I'm forgetting one other one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
I mean you would and you wouldn't want to yeah, yeah,
you wouldn't want to lose any of those the thing.
But we're now at this place with Gaga where it's
like you can watch even a two and a half
hour set of hers, oh at three and a half
four No, yeah, I'm saying, but like you could have
like a super long set and you'd still lose like,

(01:38:27):
oh my god, so many.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Songs on the catalog that you would want to hear, yes,
so many.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Like even at the Gagachella, I was like, oh, wow,
she didn't do that. One, shouldn't do that. One shouldn't
do that one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
And you could just.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Keep going yeah, And I don't want the narratives to
be like, oh, she she didn't do anything, she need
anything like CHROMATICA. It's like, I think it's totally at
her discretion. I do think that the bubble is about
to burst on. We've been blue balled out of anything.
Anything are popping, Yeah, twelve years one, And it's out
of love that we say. It's out of love and
enjoyment that we say and also yeah, I mean Venus babe, like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Venus and you touch me the side.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
I mean we've we've performed that live more than I'm
always hitting tears down everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
I mean, yes, self produced Venus. She produced that song herself.
I mean, you should be so proud of that entire album.
But I saw her at Roseland Ballroom. She closed it down, like.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Oh my god, so yeah, yeah, oh yeah, so I
saw I saw Beyonce's four there she did four shows
for four shows of the album. Yes, it was two
thousand and eleven. The summer of twenty eleven, it was four.
She did four shows at Roselyn Boom, and they were
by far up till that point. Because now I've seen

(01:39:54):
her since and obviously so she's gotten even better.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
We just started.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
At the time, I was like, that is the most special,
intimate performance of something so big I'd ever seen and
that and then the real gag was like two months
later or shortly after she did the Blue Ivy Carter
baby bump reveal on the VMA, and I realized in
that moment that she had been pregnant the entire time,

(01:40:19):
which was really crazy. Yes, that was crazy. She knew
she was yes, and I remember and then it made
me because one of the most emotional moments of the
whole thing was her doing one plus one and because
because Jay was there, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
And I remember being like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
Wow, she really just like ripped them fucking whole into
that song, and I realized I was like, Oh, it's
because she knew she was pregnant with her first child.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Yeah, my god, and dancing like no, you've never seen
like there's the end of Time sort of like live
music video.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
That's just her at the roseland doing it, and I'm like,
the fuck they scrules, no, no, no no. Then so good.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
We heard girls run the World in the streets before
the Parasho too, I mean her too, like her VMA Vanguard,
Like yeah, everything like the thirteen minute or however long
that was after the self titled right, Yeah, yeah, that
is also something that I'm like just to watch to
be like energized and invigorated.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Like it's so she's phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
We haven't even really gotten on the mic since then
to really talk about the Cowboy Carter show, but the
bar I was most excited for, but went to see
where the visuals were the visual the visuals we've visuals, well,
the visuals were I mean when I turned around, I
was like, this was a kajillion different setups and costumes.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
And hair moments and like.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Like like lighting gaffing moments and she and they're so
and I say, like thrown away because it was just
like half second, half second, half second cut. I was
like they this must have taken months months to shoot.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Yeah, and I'm all for these interesting We were.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Like she very easily could have done like a cow
and may have done like a Cowboy Carter feature film,
because not only were there so many gorgeous like high
quality cinematic setups and costumes whatever, but.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
She was acting.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
It's the best acting she's ever done in these Cowboy
card visuals. Yeah, there's a moment where she is like
in a fight with a woman at a bar and
she takes a beer bottle and just smash.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
She never break a narrative, Like you know, what would
you call it? It's more vignettes.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
It's vignett It's it's vignettes that like really do an
amazing job of like like I I did not realize
that I was getting distracted so that she could quick
change and then come out the other side of you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Anyone going to the bathroom during the visuals, Like it's
hard to say you missed one of the best parts
because the whole thing. But it was like you could
not pull away from that tour because there was always
something cool happening always the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Are you going?

Speaker 5 (01:42:47):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
No, I I.

Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
Rarely go to concerts because you're like, I just needed
I need to literally be like sat like right next
to them, and I need them to personally.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Invite me for you prefer just sit you down.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
She's like, for Ture, I got to see for you
in the show, like and then I'll be like, Okay,
thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Man, Okay, ready for I don't think soney, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Right, okay, right, okay, I've been listening since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
Yeah right, lying ass are you spirits? I don't think so, honey.
Your time starts now.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
I don't think so, honey. I don't think so honey.
The people who were.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
Unkind when I was a little boy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Walking the streets of New Jersey with my goddamn headphones on, bitch, Okay, okay, life.

Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
Is so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
No clear waters, they said, I try to have fun.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
I'm listening with my bag of.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
CDs rumbling rumbling around, and you shout something unkind to
me while I'm listening to Juno.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Do you know who the fuck you're talking to? Rachel,
you know the fuck you're talking to? Let him know that,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
But I thought that that was so uncalled for and
very very unkind to do to a young young child.
But I wish you well and I hope that you're okay,
but never do that again. And if you are doing that,
if you are doing that, if I find out you
were shouting unkind things to kids from your car, yeah
I don't think so. Honeys, I'm gonna do something about it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
And that's one minute. That must have been hard. That
that was my Princess origin story literally period.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
And also, can you imagine shouting something at a child
that's sick. It's so cruly fucking crazy that anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Would ever do that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Yeah, it's crazy from a car, from a car, like
you're in the most fucking cowardly position. Yeah, you pussy,
I'm sorry. Literally listen, you pussy. I think that literally that's.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
What they were.

Speaker 9 (01:45:07):
Yeahs category on the bar one in Superstar.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
My favorite, one of my favorite moments ever recorded the
way she says, don't even waste your time trying to
compete with me, Like are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
What's from?

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Oh okay, don't even We were laughing because like it's
the Cowboy Corner World Tour, and then she does Renaissance
for three songs like Welcome to the Renaissance, but there's
already been like kind of five songs from Renaissance from
without and it's cozy cuffe it, and she basically does
like the first few songs album and then she calls
that the Renaissance section, but she also does Thick Thick.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
To me, was the moment of the show. America has
a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
Oh yeah, no, America was a problem with everything, because
that's when Beyonce is funny with her little.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
I feel like Beyonce is so hilarious. She's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
I feel like she like, oh my gosh, y'all need
to get her on here. I feel like she would
be like.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
I feel like she just doesn't do this, she.

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
Doesn't do that, But I feel like, if like you ever,
like I don't know, I'm so curious like her just
like backstage, like with her people like, I feel like
she's like funny, Well you forget.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
How many interviews she used to do, right, you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
And I feel like she's also I have a feeling
she's really good at impressions interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Well, remember like like during I think Sasha fears, she
would do like these anecdotes. She would like have banter
on stage, and there was one famous one she was
like one time I came home, my husband goes, Beyonce,
have you gone swimming? Because because your nose sounds all
clogged up? And like that's like that's like she was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
She was doing she was doing stand up and she
was like doing doubts as jay Z Yeah, being like
have you gone swimming? She wants to go to Montreal,
wanted an SNL. Well, she was famously in the really
general she knew exactly how to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
And she was very.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Well your princess origin story is something that we can
all learn from.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
What would you say to all the princesses out there?

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
Oh, I would say to all the princesses out there
to just follow your heart and stay true to who
you are and have a drink a lot of water
and have a really good day, put your best foot
forward and take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
I know others well. I know that everyone would benefit
from going to see Richard perform live.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
I love you. You're my favorite live performers. I think you're
so good. I know, of course, we always talk about
how funny you are. We love you a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
September second, September seventh, jo just pub and July twelfth,
because it's gonna come out of July nine till we're
deciding now it's gonna head with our producers.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
This is the theme song to the Hills. We end
every episode of the song, and this is one of
the greatest songs of all the time. Bonne and I agree,
let's go back.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
This is the hell's is unwritten? Oh my god? Oh
wait it wasn't. Then this is which is the one?
This is the one? The one you read watched was
Laguna Beach? Right? Yes, sorry, okay, I'm not even gonna
have it cut out. I'm just gonna say that was
my mistake. No, no, no, it's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
I should have just I should have just oh he
meant Laguna Beach and I should I feel like no.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
No, no, because I made a mistake. Here we go. Let's
go back.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Back to the beginning, back to when the Earth sun
stars less.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Like an odyssey of its own Christ.

Speaker 13 (01:49:03):
Face didn't seem so perfect, Trying to fit a square
into a circle was life.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
Let the rain fall down and wake man dreams. Let
it show. I said it because I wanta.

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
Wanna scream. Let the rain fall down. I'm coming clean.

Speaker 5 (01:49:37):
Give it to the camera.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
I'm coming clean. Babe. What did you say, Babe? I said, babe,
like the way that the way that Richard did is
a wrong, a road.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
Bab bab by.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Good.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Last Culture Racist is the production by Will Ferrell's Big
Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and bowen Ye, executive
produced by Anna Hasnier.

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
And produced by Becka Ramos, Edited and mixed by Doug
Baymi Nikola Board and our music

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
Is by Henry Komirski.

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