“Kinsey Is A Feeling” (w/ Lucy Dacus)

The iconic musical trio of Matt Rogers, Bowen  Yang and Lucy Dacus is BACK. The Grammy winning artist and dream person joins Las Cultch to ponder many questions. Are people who want to be politicians all bad? Who is hotter: you in the mirror or you in the picture? How do you make the first movie conversationally when you’re… a little shy? Also, The Muppets, engaging with strangers on planes despite your wishes, being an artist in a relationship with another artist and therefore depicting each other in art, and the puffy pizza at Kings Dominion theme park. All this, when dippin dots was “the future of ice cream”, experiencing awe, and singing “I Don’t Want To Miss A Thing” together at The Culture Awards this summer. All this, the question of what the hell Avatar: Fire & Ash about?!, poinsettias, and discourse on The Boy With The Dangly Earring. Lucy, we love you! Forever Is A Feeling is out on vinyl and should be streamed everywhere!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, hey, hey, or should I say ho ho ho?
It's me Matt Rogers And in the words of another
Christmas icon, it's time. I'm back with my new nationwide tour,
Matt Rogers Christmas in December. Yes, it's time to remember
when Christmas is. I'm hitting the road all of December
with Henrykoperski and the whole band performing my album Have

(00:24):
You Heard Of Christmas, along with a bunch of other
little surprises. So, if you're in La San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Philadelphia,
d C. New York City, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, or yes, Orlando, Florida,
I want to see your gorgeous ass. Go to Matt
rogersofficial dot com or head to my Instagram at Matt
Rogers though and hit the link in my bio. Until then,

(00:46):
stream the album, get your look together, and get ready
to deck the damn halls at a venue near you
Christmas in December. You in my heart XO XO, Santa Boy,
look mare, oh I see you a look over there
is that in the culture, Yes, lost cult Dang dong

(01:09):
lost calling. So I bet you're wondering why I'm wearing
no sleeves in December even well, peek behind the curtain.
But I've decided that I want to break you and
the guests that I want to be the most wanted man.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, get ready, get ready, your face is going to
be in that frame for the entirety of the song.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
All I want, oh, is that is that really your face?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
So Lust and I were having a ball because it
was just my dumb little face in that gorgeous frame
during this amazing song most Wanted Man for the entirety
of the song, and I and we were I was
looking at myself and in the third person, staring at myself, going,
that's what I look like as an objects And do
not change the way you've done it.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
She would never Our guess is so polite. I hugged.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I hug my guests on the way on the way in,
she's going to a back through mind leaving, she goes,
is this the thing where we're not allowed to talk
to each other before?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm toying with the idea of every time a new
guest comes into askl. Teresa Spall and I are just
on our phones like this, Hey, hey, you imagine I
cannot well.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
One of the highlights of my year, Slash life was
singing with our guests on television on celluloid.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well that's our guest is here to promote our single.
I don't want to miss a thing live from the
Cultural Awards. Just kidding. This is the This is a
major Grammy winning artist that we have a collab with
five by five. Motherfucker. Fucking proud of you, Proud of you, talking,
proud of you. How far you've come from nothing to everything.
You came from nothing when I met you. You were

(02:44):
in the dirt. You were in the dirt, you were
in the took me to the dirt. You took me
to the dirt. Where in our Mary Cosby, I'm Era
Era No. Our guest is obviously here.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
She's promoting the Australian Asian legs of her amazing forever
Asian legs like you like me my Australian legs.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
And she's born in Brisbane, an Asian. The last tour
technically May twenty six. Yeah, the Asia of America, which
is Vancouver. Is that geographically I think so? Or is
that more tonally? Tonally? I think there is.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I think there is a huge neighborhood in Vancouver called Richmond.
I believe she knows that has all of the Asians know,
as if all of our other guests haven't broken in
during this moment.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
But that's how you know they're not for real. Forever's
a feeling.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
The archives the bonus tracks, including a Gym Croachy cover.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
The Gym Croache cover the Time in the Bottle cover
is one of one of the great covers. But that's
our guest is just like one of the one of
the great talents, one of the great talents, one of
the most beautiful people I've ever seen. Your crush, my crush.
I was so fucking proud of you when you shot
your shot. You came from nothing. When I met you.
You would have never spoken to a man, woman or more.

(03:57):
You never would have I.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Never well, I literally didn't speak to this person when
I first met them. And we've talked about this to
each other, but we need to talk about on the podcast. Okay, everyone,
please welcome into yourars.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Welcome doing everything not to talk and left. I don't
need to. I just want to watch. This is like
the best seat for just watching you guys talk.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I mean, you are right there, this is a great scene,
but we are watching and talking with you. The object
of I know, what do you think? How am I doing?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Gat?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
No? Actually, I'm sort of useless when it comes to
sexuality with women though, like he's more of a kinsy.
Are you kidding me? What do you make of this? No? No,
I guess what I mean is like if it if
it really got down to it and you and I
were to date. I'm not saying that like I know
that you're otherwise spoke spoken for, But I'm just saying, like,

(04:55):
I do think that Bowen could do more for you.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Wow, I have nothing to add to that. I think
he's a kinsey what for? I would say four or five?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
You can actually find out your number.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I think it's just I think it's just I think
forever it is a feeling. I think it's a feeling.
Kinsey is a feeling. We're so linked.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'm like, I how am I gonna keep up?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Kinsey is a feeling, might feeling? Yeah, you know what
I mean? Yeah, Firm's a feeling.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think you were saying, mister Janelle, does that mean
eternity is ephemeral?

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Sure? Okay, yeah, I feel like when you feel forever
it's momentary.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh beautiful, you said it?

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Actually better, I don't know why I repeated it in.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Worse No, I wanted you to confirm it.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I'm confirmed.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
That was the leading question though. Yeah, eternity is ephemeral.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's other alliteration, other alliteration, Or that's is that assonance
when it's vowels? No, No, that that's a really it's
a you question. Y'all were humanity's majors, right.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I dropped out of college.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, very clear to start hit the rope with your music.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
I'm intimidated that you have a crush on me because
you're gonna find out some thing about me and just
to think that I'm lame. That's the thing about having
a crush, right, is that it's like this place within
which you find out something that crashes the whole.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
No, what do you think is the thing about you
that we're going to find out that makes us go?
I don't know that so.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Early got them. I'll think about that.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Tell you, do you know yours? Sure?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
This is the reason why I haven't been in a
relationship longer than six months is I'm a farter, oh
fart a lot, and it's not it's not good.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, this intimate.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Into me. You see remember that Katy Perry song. It exists,
I don't. Yeah anyway, Yeah, I've heard the farts are
our bit since college is that it's like an angry
Egyptian king, not a pharaoh, a king.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I don't know what the distinction entails.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's sort of like this, like it's it does it?
It is? It's a very wide sound. It's also it's
really like this, you know what I mean? Yeah? Remember
remember the popular remember remember that? Yeah, that culture. Remember

(07:24):
did you remember guys white guys who were trying to
be other races were often doing like.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's sort of like, was that culture? There were these
guys out here in Richmond in high school?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Uh? Sure I went to I went to like a
nerd high school, so I'm sure that was happening somebody.
It was Maggie L. Walker, Governor, School for Government and
International Studies.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Excuse me, where are you president?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
By now, nobody who wants to be president is.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, wow, you ate that I'm going to say something.
I'm gonna say something controversial.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I thought you were raising your hand to say something.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
But when the thing and that one knows is that
he's always raising his hand. I'm always raising my hand
to speak. Okay, you're right. I So let's to know.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I talked about this a lot, and I think you
when I've talked about this, anyone who aspires to political
offices is sick in the head. I'm sorry. Anyone who
wants to be us, be in show business is sick
in that fucking head. No, in a different way, in
a more but nine way.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I think it's so beautiful. We'll cut this out.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
No, first of all, I don't think it. I do
think that people who want who is this is going
to come out after all elections it's the last election ever. Well, hey, sorry,
but I will say, like, you can be an egomaniac
that does want to do good. Sure, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You're still an egomaniac at the end of the day,
which is a neutral thing.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Politically minded. You can tell she went to high school
for government because she knows not Yeah, but what your
sort of major.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
In high school? Well, you did to graduate, you to
take five government courses and you had to take minimum
two languages, but they had like twelve languages or something.
I took French in Russian, I am not fluent in Russian,
and I am okay at French.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You can you can speak a little French. Problem.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's kind of like going bowling, like sometimes I'm on
and sometimes I'm off.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Right is yeah, and pool, oh, pool is yeah. But
when you're good at pool, when you're having a good
pool nights, sort of very powerful and very.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, just in an ungendered way. I think being good
at pool of sexy.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yes, anybody who can make that happen. What is it?
What's it connected to in like our biology.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Like draping yourself over a surface, like it is like
different position Like it is like the body orienting itself
in different ways that precision, precision and power I.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Think empower, coordination and power lighting power.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Oh yeah, the lighting is used.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
There is also the moment. Yeah, it's like oh, very
very over lucy. What's the moment when someone cracks cracks
a thing and they know they did well and they
sort of they sort of come up they've done it,
and then they go yeah, I mean like like yes,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Even alone, I think people that playpool alone are hotter
than people that bowl alone. But who are they hot
to themselves?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
That's interesting having a moment.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Bowling alone is if you're hot in a forest alone?
Are you hot? Is that?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's what I'm asking, are you I think we should
all let's let's all go around okay and ask yourself this.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Are you hot to yourself? I don't think. I think.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I think, actually, yes, I'm hot to myself. And in
the quiet of my own space, I'm like, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Gonna I'm gonna be vulnerable in the mirror, I'm a
super model to myself. I'm so hot to myself. I
look in mirrors and I'm like, this is really good.
Lucky me another day like this. In all pictures gremlified.
Truly the person in the picture. Get out of the picture. Yeah,
get this picture away from me. But in mirrors it

(11:25):
sort of balances out the ego because it's like I
want to destroy myself or I'm like, well, I'm not amazing,
I can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well, you are different every day. People don't realize this.
Water distribution like it for some people a monthly cycles involved.
Your brain also and is changing all the time. What
you ate will change.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
What you're studying public health at Hopkins, this is what
they're telling you Elen this.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, so thank you, Elena. Legend. Helena is a legend.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Ever I find out someone smart listen to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh all my smartest, coolest friends listen to this.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
No, we're telling y'all. I will sleep now what this
is delightful?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm happy right now. Well, I want to say, though, what.
I am a very inconsistent person. Sometimes I wake up
I'm like, hell yeah, this rocks. Other times I'm like
I should die. But getting your award for Me Awards
was a real boon.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I was like, how did it feel to receive the
Sun Award for so fucking hot?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
It felt amazing that day. I thought maybe maybe I
am hot? So thanks for that day.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
No, maybe it's about it firm.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Thank you so much?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Can I can?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I just briefly quickly mention our first meeting, which was
was seeing Lucy at Forest Hills, because it was that
was a great that was a great bill. It was Lucy.
It was former guest at the show backs of Hatch
Katie Pretchfield and uh Connor Roburst and you had just
played and ste last and I just like got into
like the little back area where you were just chilling,

(13:02):
and then I turn around and it was like starting
at the sun.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I was like, oh, and I really shy. You know me,
I get shy Illumineer's song played in his heart. Yes,
I got so shy. But if it's someone that I love,
I shut down. I can't see he Well, it's true,
like he certain people occupy a space for him where
he's completely he sees like some of the most intimidating
people in the world. And then certain people I can

(13:28):
list you Real Housewife, Foltic City, Meredith Marks. These are
people that have stopped bowing in his track company have
muted and muted me, have muted my ass, you have
muted me.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Anyway, my experience of that was that was that you
I'm gonna I'm gonna do what I saw. Oh my god,
because I remember this too, because I kind of lit
up and I was about to be like, hey, we
had a moment.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
You're not wrong, but here.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
This is what it was. It was.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
You can't do that because you have to accept your
bow and yang because you can, which I.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Thought distinctly was like, don't fucking talk to me.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
No, it was me going full cat tonia nonverbal nonverbalia.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
I probably I like to go up and talk to
people because everyone actually does like that to not have
to be the first one to do it, So you
might as well just fall on the story and be
wrong occasionally. Yeah, and just like bounce back, just like
grow up.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Because it's not the end of the world if that.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Someone doesn't want to talk to you. And also that
might have to do again with their mood, and you
just be like, cool, you didn't sleep well or you
just got bad news. I'm gonna walk away.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
But most of the time people go from that face
to smiling and they have this front because everyone is
in their own head about of course who they are
and what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, but I was like.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'm gonna leave it be and now look at us,
and now look at us.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Everything worked out and it literally worked out in the
song you guys have on Spotify. True, Okay, think about
that highlight. I think there's no greater expression of love
then uploading something.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm discovering Aerosmith.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Did you know the song beforehand? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
How do you not? How I don't remember. I'm not
knowing this.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I'm just saying it's like not everyone knows every song,
but that is quite a famous song, and it is
I think the most wonderful song. It's a really good song.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, so fun.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I was the low harmony.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Actually I love that. But but Lucy Dagas on a
Diane Warren song is so powerful.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think I'm not doing research that often on would
I like because if I like it, it just completed
what it was meant to do.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
It exists in its own and in a way that's.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Like antithetical to y'all's podcast, because I feel like culture
loving people.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
We don't know and informationally we're very very bad, very
illiterate with.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
When it comes to me, it's.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Like I know something.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I mean I think. Sometimes I actually feel the opposite.
Sometimes I know a lot of things about things, and
I'll realize, like, oh, I haven't seen that movie. Like
I guess we can reveal now you know what movie?
We still haven't watched The Godfather? Right, we said we
said months ago on the podcast there was one of
the most famous movies in American history, and we were
teasing what it was. We didn't say, can confirm now

(16:10):
it's the Godfather. I'm still not seeing it. Have a
movie night, we should, sure.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Paddington to movie night after we kept it as a
reward after the year of doing stuff together. You're like,
and once the Grammys are over, we will watch Paddington too.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Why Paddington too? Why not? I been a joy.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
It's a joy.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
But it's also it's so weird. Yeah, Paddington goes to jail.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
They have like a banner that is like an embroidered
banner that says it's prison, sweet prison.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, well that's who who's coming up with bread?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
It's just but also I mean it's like a delightful
time and they're like, what is going on to get
Uh yeah, okay, I guess he's not still there. Yeah.
Sorry spoilers on Paddington two because you pingon one or three?
Is there a three?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Paddington goes to Peru? Oh yeah, jail then Peru jailed
in Peru, Jail to Peru. Pipeline. Yeah, that could be
titled that, but it's it. It's what is it? Kinsey
is a feelings, which I do really like.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
That is good.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
This is not a test you take. I think we
were just to go back to that conversation. It is
it is a feeling and I'm I'm landing myself at
a four, between four and five, so between zero and six,
zero being full, hat six being full homo. So like,
I mean, what would you say where would you.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Say you are? Six? Okay? Yeah, I'm just a.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Gay guy, you know what I mean? Like, I'm one
of the gay guys. I don't want you to tell
us the number. I want you to just think about
it and then once you've once you, once you've confirmed it, just.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Just let us say. This would be huge news. No,
we're not.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
We're not gonna this isn't The scoop is that you're
thinking galaxy brainy.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Galaxy brain. We were top. Did you just the number? Yeah?
You look content with the number.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I feel good about yourself? Yeah, we Were's so cool?
Is you can know yourself and other people don't have to. Oh,
I don't know if that's life.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's the opposite of my experience. I don't know myself
and other people seem to seem to know everything about me.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is not true. Dang.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah. So, speaking of knowing things about you and sharing
that information, we hope that you, you know, keep anything to
yourself you want. But there's a question that's the central
question of our podcast. We must ask it. Okay, this
is Lucy Dakis. What was the culture they made you
say culture was for you? I thought way.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Back, Yeah, and there's early loves and childhood. But I
think the thing that really like got my spark going
is the Muppets.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh, let's go. The moment came to my mind this morning.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
How did he do that?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I don't really know. Actually, you know what I was.
I was talking about the new Ryan Murphy show, All's Fair,
which is this Kim Kardashian legal drama that has Glenn
Close and Sarah Paulson and Tana Taylor. And I was
like the cast of a Ryan Murphy show. You would
not be surprised if it's Kermit and Meryl Street. Kermit

(19:16):
and mel Street play each other in the Slaves and
that's by night and by day they're elementary school teachers.
That's like a Ryant Murphy show. It's Chris Kermit and
Meryll and it's very raw, it's very sexual, but it's
emotional and very fun. Why am I so seated you?
Of course you'd be seated, And that's Murphy.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
And we're talking Meryl today.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Of course, Meryl today. I can't get from before okay, sure, Yeah,
she's not getting any younger and I hate seconds everyone.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
She is getting more fabulous.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
It's just exponential, of course. Yeah, I love it. What
was your first exposure to them?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I feel like my grandma's house. My grandma would tape
things and she had a of Muppet Show tapes, or
maybe before being able to tape things, you just bought
the vhs them and uh that and then the Christmas
Muppets offerings.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Operate, Muppet Treasure Island, up Treasure Island, the fits.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
You did acknowledge Miss Piggy in one of your awards,
which I'm glad because whose mood board does not include
Miss Piggy?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I don't know a person.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, there's no one who's not referencing and bowing down
to no one I respect, no one I respect. Yeah, no, no, no,
there's probably people who it's not in mind, but their
minds are uninteresting.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes, Well, Miss Piggy is one of those examples in
pop culture where she's clear that the amalgamation of like
all of these old Hollywood tropes, and yet she transcends them.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's like, oh, like the sum is greater than the parts.
I'm sorry, like I'm sorry to whatever the you know,
the the Betty Davis is or whatever, like the old
or it's although although Miss Picky hasn't really had like
a queer moment like Marlina, I feel Miss Piggy should
go full you know.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, that's the thing. Miss Piggy, like she knows so
much more about herself than we know. It's actually really
good number Miss Piggy. She knows so much more about
herself than we know. I just think Miss Piggy, Miss
Piggy is Miss Piggy is allowed to be violent. Did
would you say this? Hi yah?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah? There's a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
That is I'm not gotcha.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
No, I think no, I think a lot of I
think violence has a very important place in everyone's life.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
That's the violence has a very important radical queer artist
Lucy Vakas champions violence and Miss Piggy I'm on Lost
Culture podcast.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Oh my god, some people deserve it. Yeah, it's so true.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Well, every time Miss Piggy said hy yah, it was warranted.
And I think that was the thing that, like ye
was really important in the establishment of her is Like
she was not a violent woman. No, she was driven
to violent.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
No. No, she has priorities which are her hair and
her shoes, and the violence is getting in the way
of these things. So it's like very much important to
her obviously if it's superseding her excellence in how she looks.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Wow, her number one thing which she wakes up in
the morning, Miss Piggie opens her eyes. Do her eyes
ever close? Yes?

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Okay, so she she does open her eyes and then
she thinks, how can I entertain the world? So anything
that's gonna come between her and her.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Purpose the cannon or is that you're feeling.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
She famously wants to do a show. Oh yeah, she
doesn't do a show at the Vanity. She's at the vanity.
She's speaking her face, she's ready to go on. Yeah,
you know what I mean. I feel like common refrain
said around her is like almost time for places.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I do also feel like the high fem of it
all is like and and with Kermit, there's something just uh,
maybe Miss Piggy hasn't had her queer moment, but I'm like,
maybe she is.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
It's already kind of there is a queer ring of
the romance there right, Like it's it's inner species it is.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Wait, it's pigs are queer.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
If a pig was fucking a frog, that's queer moment.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I think if you saw that.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
We were going to like reading like Science Daily or something.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Until gay, I would love to find that there's very
smart animals.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
I think it would have had a pig. That was
one of the big famous celebrity facts from the nineties.
George Clooney has a pig. Okay, sweet, are you gonna
visit the pig cafes in Japan when you're there?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I don't even know those exist, but yeah, now me
just text me recommendations. I'm starring everything on my map.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
When are you going to be there?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
February eighteenth, and then a whole week.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
After you're gonna be there for sumo season. I think
for like the sumo I've never been. I want to
go so badly, we're going to just miss it.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I go out. You're going to be there before we're
there the second half of January. Fun it's Bowen's birthday trip.
Very excited, cute, cute kawaii even what don't give me
as already? Look what if I make my whole thing
Japan when I come back like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Like, I'm ka, you wouldn't be going Stefani, you would
be like respectful?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Well not no, No, I wouldn't Just kidding. Can you
imagine you imagine make a cultural appropriation announcement? I thought
you would do it back in the day.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
That'd be better than what other people are doing. Yeah,
people are just embodying it.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
No thoughts truly have you been there before? I'm very
excited And then and and and the group is going friends.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, we have some friends that are going to meet
us there. The whole band is saying, because we're getting
over there, so why.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Not why not new tour bus there?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Or one show? So it was multiple Well Australia is
all part of Lanewayfest, which is like a traveling festival,
so they I think they fly you from city to city.
What I really hope is that it's a big plane
and all of the artists get to be on the
same plane. Yeah, and hang out on a plane. But

(25:19):
I don't know if that's what happens. You can request that, yeah,
for everyone to change their plans to have a plane?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Are you like very social? No? But people want me
to be Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I just feel in an uber like everyone is talking
to me. Everyone turns in is like, oh my god,
my childhood trauma is this? Or my dreams are.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
We just had this.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
We were finishing with a swamp to where where it
was pouring rain. We were all wet, rat round rat.
We get an unprompted this man, lovely man. I'm not
saying drivers can't speak, obviously, I don't want that to
be the implication here the life story. But it was unprompted.
Like well, September of nineteen seventy eight, my family moved
from Shreveport to New Orleans and it was it was,

(26:03):
it was. It was astounding, and we somehow I was
hanging on to everyone. I was like, okay, well I'm
invested now.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
How long was it drive? Okay, yeah, it was up
there and it didn't develop in the last five minutes
to stop, but only because I think he had exhausted himself.
He had given us every date an event of his life.
It really, it really is. I wish I wish I
was that tap done.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I have a question for you, because I've been thinking
about this, this conversation that you've had with Janelle a lot,
especially in this like go to the party sense, like
self care culture is sort of insulating us in a
way that maybe is not that is that is precluding
like actual connection with other people. Like so let's say
where you're people are talking at you or on the plane,

(26:54):
everyone wants to talk to you. At what point do
you go, I should I should reach out and can
I should put out my own feelers at one point?
Are you doing that versus well, I just want to
be in my own space.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think as a rule, I have the over the
headphone noise canceling headphones on with nothing happening in there
at a point until I am seated, and I do
most of my like listening to music for the first
time on a plane because I'm like super focused or
like movies always make me cry on a plane. Yeah,
but I have had people like tap me on the shoulder,
talk to me. I put it back, tap me on

(27:27):
the shoulder. There was this guy that tapped me on
my shoulder and it's like yeah, and he was like
people don't connect enough these days, which is not wrong,
and I was just like yeah, and I was like
I really was looking forward to and planning on listening
to something. So I hope you have a great flight,
but I'm gonna go back, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I try to be like polite.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
And then he did it again and I was like, okay,
here we go six hours and he told me some
of the worst stuff I've ever heard. He like he
works for the military and he loads bombs onto planes
and he's like, I love my job because I can
see the effect of my work in the paper the
next day. What And I was like, I want you

(28:13):
to answer this. How do you sleep at night? I
want you to tell me this isn't rhetorical, how do
you sleep at night? And he was just like, I'm
just proud of defending my country. And I was just
like I think that what you're contributing to is morally reprehensible.
And I hope that the weight of people's lives like

(28:36):
weighs you down at some point, and like all I
can help for you is change. But also like he
had He's like, look at my phone background and it
was a like big chested, topless woman in Daisy Duke's
fishing and I was like, oh, is that your girlfriend.
He's like, no, that I'm aspiring to that, and like

(28:56):
he was just at me, like trying to get something
like from me and I. But what he got was like,
I think that you are a terrible person.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
And I think that you think he wanted that in
a little bit our Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Don't know if do people with sour hearts want to
be seen or like, do they.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Think that there is something to people like that being like, yeah,
get into get let's get into a back and forth
with me. I want to be like challenged, you know
what I mean? Like it's and in a way.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'm like, I would like, if you want to be challenged,
are you opening a door, because like, if you are,
if you have to put words to what you're doing,
or is that going to change something for you? I
don't know. We don't we don't get to change people, right, But.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I don't think you.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I don't think he wanted to be challenged. I think
people like that. I'm gonna project in surmise.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
People who like murder, well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Are people who like.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Something is like a little bit their internal sense of
morals are kind of all over the fun Yeah, let's
just say so.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
What he he works out every day and the funniest
thing he said was I feel my muscles atrophy as
I'm sitting here because.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
He wasn't actively working out do it that much? He
had you touch his arm.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, he takes whatever that thing is that helps you
keep water weight, creatine okay or whatever. Yeah that behind
the Everyone like a bunch of hot girls I know
are taking creatine a thing.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
It's it's a thing, and I've started taking it a
little bit and it has helped with like some some
bulk or some muscle.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, you would love this guy. It sounds like you
love this guy. Yeah, he's on my phone background. Yeah.
Do you think when he looks in the mirror he
thinks he's hot? Oh yeah, yeah definitely.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I mean so then that's an example of like you're
putting your own sort of mechanisms at work in terms
of connection, and this is someone that you're like, I've
learned what I should know about you, and I've made
an assessment that like this is that these are the
limits of my connection.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, even like it is still connecting when you are
learning someone that you dislike, and that's informative too. It
can be like a homing device for your own values
totally or just like wow, I guess I do know
who I am because there are people like that, you know, yeah,

(31:22):
and like and also it's just like heartbreaking. I'm like
your life one day, hopefully you will find that it
was for nothing and meaningless. This is supposed to be fun.
We can talk about cultures.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
This is culture. Yeah, no, this guy like is directly
like this guy's day is so directly linked to people's
like mass death. Well, those people are on planes, I
will say, like, I don't know if you'st we were.
I'm always fascinated by just how many people are watching

(32:00):
Fox News on the plane. Like there was a guy
in front of us on the plane yesterday who was
watching Fox News and then he watched the film Miss
Pettigrew Lives for a Day, which I can say I
know the title of the movie just by seeing the
actresses on screen. It was Francis McDorman and Amy Adams.
I am again Kinsey six gay. Kinsey is a feeling
I feel strongly gay. And I was watching it and

(32:20):
I was like, wow, what is the Fox News to
Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day? Pipeline. But then a
lot of gay guys are Republicans. You hear about grinder
crashing out at the conventions. These guys are gay. Theysgrew
lives for a day, they live for Francis mcdormand's and
they're gay, and they're voting against us. They're going home,
they're having sex in the butt, and they're coming to

(32:43):
work and they're sending out.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Bombs Like for that guy to't be into big titted
fisher girl.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
It's it's horseshoe theory. Yea to something.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's a little like suspicious that you really had to
show me that.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like it's like gender max thing
in a way that is like huh you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah, it has to be rooted in, like I'm look
how much of a man I am. Feel my arm,
look at my bombs, want to see what I want
to fuck? Ain't nothing more cis than this, Like it's
just like it's it's a it's a it's an Olympic
feat And to do this on a plane when someone
is captive is also very Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
That's also like like pussy behavior to have a captive audience.
Oh yeah I can say whatever, just you just you are.
I'm powerless in the situation, and that's what's fun.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, But then but then what's what's great is here
you are telling telling the story and now we all
actually intrinsically know exactly what this guy looks like. I
love when people just don't know who they're talking and
we're dealing with, or they forget, Like for you, have
you listened to the Lily Allen album yet? No? I
would really like to. What's so shocking is so you know,

(34:02):
I won't name names, but it's ostensibly about her very
famous ex husband, and this guy marries Lily Allen, right,
Like some of these people will fully marry or start
dating these like really like evocative singer songwriters, and then
at some point they'll forget and they'll do the craziest
ship to them. And then you get this album written

(34:23):
about you when your choices and it's like, yeah, I
guess you just forgot who you married, like what what is?
And then people will be like, oh the whole she
wrote a song about me? Think that that the like
that happens in culture. It's like you but you knew
who you were dealing with in the beginning. An artist
was a reveal And if it is a reveal, then wow,

(34:44):
you really didn't value the relationship that you were in
or see the person.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, you really got to get right with yourself before
dating an artist. I think you're going to get depicted,
and you should have a life that you would be
proud of being depicted.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
One hundred So here and then here you are like
with another artist, how do you feel about being depicted? Like, well,
have you guys talked about that?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah? For sure, I mean we like it. We like that, Yeah,
we like it. Yeah, because we like each other right,
And I would say for the most part, we are
right with ourselves. But I if I write something, I'll
show it and be like, are you cool with this?
And then usually answers yes, And if the answer is
like yeah, this detail feels a little like something or other,

(35:31):
like we'll just talk about it.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Guess what, that's a relationship.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, you can just talk about it.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
You can just talk about it, valuing the other person
for holistically who they are, because probably one of the
big reasons you fell in love is because of that
talent and that gift and that access to your emotions
and being able to channel that and funnel that into
your work, which can actually so many people.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I love your brain, Like if you're feeding me through
your brain, Like what that's such a privilege.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Favorite Muppet, favorite m but I.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Mean it is miss Piggy. Yeah, Gonzo Rocks gone obviously. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
What do you think of Fozzy Bear?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I love Fuzzy Bear. Do you not like Fozzy Bear?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I think you're a fozzy Bear. Maybe that's what it is, like,
I know I am Fozzy Bear.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
So you see yourself?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Do you think I'm Fazzy Bear?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
You're a little bit Fozzy, a little bit Gonzo a
little a little bit, a little bit Piggy for sure.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Also Peppe the King Krown do you know the Yeah, course,
the little hair going everywhere?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Is the eye the mouse Swedish chef. Yeah, I like
Beaker Speaker, so yeah, I'm Bunsen. He's Beaker for sure.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
How are y'all not?

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Uh, Piggy and Kermie No, Burton Ernie.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
No, the guy the Hecklers.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Oh yes, yeah, that your position?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Like, is this not your box?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
By the way, you want to know my favorite joke
of all time? No, it's at the end of and
Rest in Peace, The Muppets three D Show. It's in
disney World, and the Statler and Waldorf are in there.
A little I called them the Lincoln seats there. They're
they're up in the box and the show is over
and they're like, we gotta go, and then the other

(37:13):
one goes, we can't. We're bolted to the seats, and
I was just like, I love that. They really broke
the fourth wall there because they are puppets. They are
bolted to the seats. They're never leaving. And then the
horror crept in because I realized they're never leaving. Well,
now they are because they.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Oh that's why r I p Okay. It was like
they're making.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
A new monster's ink, a dream tip the dream. Well,
the dream lives on with the monsters Incs. Yes, okay. Also,
don't worry about the muppets. They're moving to rock and
roller coaster. I hate a lot of what I know.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Oh my god, well this is a news outlet.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Frankly, he keeps up with it. I don't. I say
that with no judgment. I know sometimes I'll come on
here and I'll just use an opportunity for the podcast
to like break news and theme parks to the readers.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Are you people like you love theme part?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah? I love them and like an it It didn't
start out ironically. Now it's kind of ironic. It's just
one of those industries that I keep up with. It's
like it's like one of my synapse fires when I'm
finding out what's being built.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Do you know anything about King's Dominion in Virginia? Because
that was that was my haunt, was it? That was
like some of my early moments without parents was going
to kings in a King's dominion. That that's the whole
culture in and of itself.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Talk to us about that.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Well, like the parents think, oh, they'll be safe because
it's all we're in the parking lot and they can't.
And there are drugs at the park. To sound like
a conservative no no, no talking head, but like there
are drugs and everybody's like, like first people like smoking weed,
Like people are hooking up at the park. All of

(39:01):
the regular childhood meannesses that have to come out are
happening at the theme park. Yea, the wavepool doesn't never
touch a.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Wave no, never get into the wave pool.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Never get into the wavepool.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Why is there a wavepool King's Dominion at a medieval
themed park.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
It's not medieval, but kings you would think so that
it's the king's dominion. Why have I never there's nothing general.
There's sections. There's like the kids area that was Peanuts. Yeah,
there's like a Nickelodeon area maybe there's not anymore. There's
like kind of a junglely area and a conda in

(39:35):
the volcano.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
That one has a good couple of good roller coasters yeah.
King's Dominion yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Then there's like the section of like just new like oh,
this is the tallest whatever is the fastest fall, and
it's just there's no theme.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
It's just yeah, I guess chaos ki.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, now you would it was your haunt, like you
would be skipping Russian to go to King's Dominion during
the day or it's like summer hag like where like
how would you how would you find yourself there?

Speaker 3 (40:00):
It was mostly middle school and definitely like kids had
birthday parties. Weirdly, the pizza at King's Dominion was different
than all the other pizza I've ever had. It's like
kind of puffy, puffy, like kind of puffy, like it
was good, like I wish it's a good order, like
it sounds really bad, but it's kind of good.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
So puffy in terms of like the cheese was rich
or like.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I was bubbling.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Ups as fuck.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, and yeah, the cheese was probably bad, but I
probably liked it.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
God yeah, remember being that age and being like, I'm
gonna go eat some puffy pizza, righty?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Ice cream?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Is that the because they turned out to not really
be the future of ice cream? Huh?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Because I did have di Dippin' dots at Niagara Falls
recently and that was cool. I recommend this in higher experience,
but you have to go on the maiden of the missed,
Lady of the miss made of.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
The which is as a child, I've not I've not
done this at all.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's actually.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
So cool.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
It's an incredible It's like one of the wonders of
the world. But not to look at it. It's great,
but made of the miss like you're in the water,
like your whole vision. Why it's out like there you
it's very sublime, like it's my whole band, like we'll
do this because we're on tour. And then everyone came
out like kind of changed in odd.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
By it, which you don't have anymore. Awe is harder,
the sublime is harder, and harder to reach the sublime
and harder to reach. Yes, which one is that but
that's real culture number number two. The sublime is harder
and harder to reach. He defined AWE the other day.
Can you do it now?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
The things that you the ingredients you need for AWE
are psychological safety, which of course we don't have anymore
because we are constantly surveiled. We're watching ourselves, so that
the third person that leads to more self judgment and
self whatever, just like just like self modulation of like behavior. Right,
Like I I never want to be perceived. Over the years,
I've wanted to be perceived less and less because I'm

(42:13):
perceiving myself all the time every week, and I'm like
I less of that. Please. Anyway, you need psychological safety,
you need connection and odds best experience with other people.
And I forget the third.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Thing, but it's these things that like our fraying at
the edges, like with the advancement of certain technologies. Yeah,
and so I'm so going to Niagara Falls made in
the misted sounds about right with your bandmates.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
There's a bit of all there.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Maybe this is even why this came up. We recently
went on the Alligator Swamp Tour now New Orleans. So
before you ask, no, it was not with Lana del
Ray's husband. Okay, we thought about it, Okay, but we
would have had to travel an extra hour, an extra hour.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
To get He's doing that job, so wow, I can't
imagine how his job has changed.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Must be for you.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yeah, she's a great songwriter. She she DMed me to
open for her. I don't know if people realize this,
but the like Norman fucking Rockwell tour a lot of
those shows. She booked herself like d I Y, but
she like emailed the venues and was like, Hello, I'm
on a del Rey. I would like to come through
this venue on the state I feel nervus. IM always

(43:35):
nervous talking about other people. This is what I think
people can know this. And she dm a ton of
people to open, like only days prior and I ended
a tour in Michigan and she was like, do you
want to open in Chicago in two days?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
And sick.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
We were like yeah, I be there in a sec.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
My damn. Yeah, that's awesome like that. That's a good
one to one. But you think we experienced the sublime well,
because I think we did, because yes we again it
was not mister del Rey, which actually was fine, because
I was like, you know, maybe we should just keep
that lore. So we had this amazing man, his name

(44:16):
was Captain Kelly, and we get out into the swamp
and just to see like a wild alligator sort of
swim up like a dog, like literally like the the
airboat would stop and the alligator would swim up and
know that it meant we were he was gonna get
fed by Captain Kelly, panting like and literally swimming up.

(44:39):
And then it was kind of adorable wat and cute, yeah,
because it would just sit there with its mouth open
like this and the captain would feed it. And someone goes, well,
he's so nice. How long have you known this alligator?
And the guy was like, nah, he would get me.
He would he would bite me and get me if
my finger, yeah, my fingers. And because he was sort

(45:02):
of saying like, it seems like I have a relationship
with this reptile, but it's still I don't alligator. It
would be good. Yeah, this was awe for me, like
watching the alligator that it was over twelve feet long.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Oh my gosh, that's two long guys.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
That's too long, two really long guys, or three two
tall three and it was thick. And then Captain Kelly
tapped the back of the therapists. Was that the therapist was
that the word? Right? Okay? Were you trying to define
the scale?

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I think to get the worst person in the room
to ask for the carapaces?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Nodded as just to confirm that the the appropriate terminology.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
This is this is when you reveal that your high
school was sort of like all reptileator high schoolators. Back. Yeah,
the back, but he tapped on it and it was
it was hollow, hollow and hard. Of the boat of
the back of the alligator's back, the carapace, and then

(46:08):
he tapped, so he tapped the boat and it sounded
the same as when he tapped the back of the
alley the whole of the Yeah, yeah, uh wait what
Basically the alligator was really hard?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
But then they had us whole the baby alligator and
I was so shook because it just felt like a
sack of meat.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Was it kind of like? Yes?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
And then Captain Kelly tried to scare me becau I
was the most I was the most kiddish around holding
the alligator. That's like one thing about me, like I
don't need to touch the animals, and.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Yet you went out of your way to I was
an experienced and experienced all Having.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
The experience of all visually was one thing. But then like,
all right, everyone, now we're going to hold an alligator. Like,
I don't know you you sort of. I liked the alligator,
you liked it. Yeah, would you hold a koala?

Speaker 3 (47:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I don't think so. Really, I don't need to hold
any animals. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Would you pet an animal?

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yes? I would, I would. I would say I'm pretty
good with domestic animals, but like in terms of like
animals at the zoo and stuff, like I don't need
to pet it, like I don't need to feel the.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Scales, like you know, they respect the distance totally, right, Yeah,
you don't really get to ask because they can't really
tell you yes or no.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Right. It also felt like everyone else did it, so
then if I'm the one person who doesn't do it,
it's like I guess, like, get yeah, give me, give
me the alligator.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
There's this huge thing where musicians go and whold koalas
when they tour Australia.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah, have you done this? I've done this?

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yeah, And okay, but you are. Let's talk about this.
Both of you have incredible voices.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
That's kind of real.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
But you stand in line, and on either side of
the line are koalas asleep because they sleep like twenty
hours a day and they just wake up to eat
bamboo and it makes them high and they go back
to sleep.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
It makes them high, makes them high bamboo, the eucaly eucalyptus,
that's what.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
The drug addicts.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, they're just standing out. Yeah, they all have chlamydia.
So it's this like not hub sanctuary for the Kualas.
I guess the sanctuary is a hub.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yes, But I like the Arrowsmith of Animals because okay,
because they're drug addicts on they fuck. It's actually really coature.
Number thirty are the Arrowsmith of Animals because they're on
they fuck? How are you guys?

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Also, I want to tell you that arrow Smith used
to be out rock and roller Coaster and now they're
getting replaced with the Muppets, which is probably why they
were top of mind for that rule of culture. So
they are out of rock and roller coaster. But the
threat the rules converged. Okay, but so then does this
mean what you've got.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I held I held a call, and you're like, oh,
it's gonna be cute and cuddly. But then you get
there and their claws are like this and they have
hef to them and I'm like holding this koala and
it like looks at me like like in the eyes,
and I'm like, I'm holding like a dinosaur or something
like I can't believe I'm touching, touching history, Like wow, koala,
you're famous, like everyone knows.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
About you, so significant, right, And then they're like and
on the way out, if you want to go touch
them kangaroos, go ahead, and then they just open a
gate unsupervised.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
You can go touch one hundred kangaroos. You wait in
line for the koala and then as if they don't matter,
they just are like, by the way, there's a bunch
of kangaroos, and they hand you food and you can
go and like hug and touch and hang out with
them for as long as you want, which I'm like
I would, I would stand in line for.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
You for kingos.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
But this is the reason why kangaroos are sort of
in an open pen without supervision is because they are
basically rodents in Australia. They want to get rid of them.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yea, they are selling kangaroo meat at the grocer restore.
Can't stand the way they reproduce. Have you seen it? No,
essentially too little.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
My stomach kind of hurts though. Well, I'm gonna tell
me something weird.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Go ahead, and Lucy Dacas just puked. Our first guest
to throw up all over the white table. Oh my,
Lucy Dacas, you've threw up all over the white table.
Don't tell us about the kangaroo. Look it up. I
don't even want to get into it because if here's

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one thing that will happen, if you throw up, I
will throw talking about to throw up, Rachel, forget it,
forget it. She takes the pictures and she's gonna throw up.
When bowen yang are going to start far and I
start farting, someone breaks up with me again. No one's
broken up with you because mind we're off. No one's

(50:54):
broken up with you because of the forest. They not not,
They've not said as much.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Maybe it's hard to say.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, maybe it's hard to say. Maybe it's hard to say.
Although I would just I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
I didn't mean to make that.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
No, I'm happy to talk about that any time I
get well, I've only been broken up with like hardcore
like once, but it was sort of like amorphous and like,
well that's being unclear, but it's fine.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
It's in the past. It is kind of nice to
no concrete reason, you know what I mean? Yeah, like
because that because then you can deal with it. Whereas
like if it's like an amorphous thing like so you
if someone was like sorry about it was the farts,
I'd be like great, like okay, yeah, I'll work on that.
It's also like.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
It's clear that it's the other person's problem, like if
you're so shallow, like then they're just they're counting themselves
out of the running.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
If you can't have me at my farting, you can't
have me at my vomits. Sure, you know what was
the last time you threw up? I thought I was
gonna throw up last night? Actually too fast.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
To me, You're like you're nine years old right now.
I'm always I almost threw up last night because I
eat too fast.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I ordered lemon chicken from the diner because I'm losing
my battle every single night with smoking too much weed
and eating food. Okay, so I bate too much weed,
and then I ordered a lemon chicken, mashed potatoes, zucchini okay,
and Avlon meg noon soup. How do you say this?

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Do you think it was a lemon chicken and not
the it was?

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I think it was all of it together. I just
got so excited about how good it was that you
ever eat too fast because of this reason? You know
what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Then I thought,
am I gonna throw up for the first time in
And I couldn't even remember the last time I threw up.
That didn't though I thought I would, thought you would.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Okay, what's what are what are you and Katie Gavin
like on the tour bus y'all?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Y'all like two crushes? Questions you didn't company last time?
I want you to answer that. What did you question?

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I don't remember. I can tell you it probably was
like I I. I used to be able to drink
like a lot and not feel anything sure, And I
didn't start drinking until I was like twenty one, like
after because I was like afraid of it, and I
grew up kind of afraid of it. And then recently
it's like I'll have like two glasses of wine and
I'll be like I'm sick. Yeah, so I just like

(53:32):
don't really drink.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
And yeah, this is happening to many people in my life.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
It is people. You realize it really is just poison.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
It is just poison steel, the poison working on you. Yes,
it's like a.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Sick feeling and not a fun feeling.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Sure, but you and what are your order? What are
y'all eating? I want to know what are we eating?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Well, we have catering, which is nice because there's so
many people, it's like over twenty people that we everyone's
so big and so you don't really have time to
go out and so we'll get like fruits and.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Veggies caterers on the bus.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Not on the bus like at the venues. Oh great,
But what is what is Katie eating? I don't know.
We had separate buses, which maybe is you know, sad
because we would have been having such fun. We are
We are going to dinner in La which we should
all go to dinner.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Where are you going? You know you're going to all time?

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I haven't gone there. We went to Spina, which is
like yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Too, you know what, I go all the time, Superba.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Super I never know that Superba, Superba.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I love Bacari and Bacari, Gary silver Lake, Okay, it's
a good date spot.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
All right. I don't know about these things. Bring your artists,
your artists to the cary.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
No one knows who it is.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
We won't say yeah, secrets secret.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I would love dinner with y'all. I would get all
hot and being back here gets me hot in the face.
When when we were in Coachella and you guys, uh
facetimed you did that.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
I just I forget that. You can just use your phone. Yeah,
you're just at any point, just like someone can get
into your life.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I just realized I have I now have a song
with Lucy and Katie. Oh wow, wow, get on my level. Now,
that's really I'm really thinking about that.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I'm really thinking about Oh that's so.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Amazing, and I'll perform it at my tour Christmas in December.
Get your tickets at Matt Rodgers Official dot com.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
This is I don't think so many. This is our
segment where we take one minute to really go off
on something in culture. It's a polemic. It is really
destructive and that's what.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
We if we do our job. I have thing, okay, yeah,
we are.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
You gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
We're gonna do it. Okay. You get to choose out
of your options. Yeahah, we've because you said you had
five options. Fro don't things but you feel strongly about
one thing?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Well, I feel strongly about all of them, but not
all of them. Am I willing to hear what other
people have to say?

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I understand? So what do you think about the idea
of you just kind of telling us what they all
are and then later Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I'll do the whole I'll do how many minutes you
got later we can do this.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
We got minutes, Yeah, you got minutes, but for first
one minute for me, then bo then Lucy Gis Okay,
I'm ready. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so
many times starts now, I don't think so, honey, Avatar,
Fire and Ash trailer. What is it about? What is
the movie about? Because I I know that is a

(56:48):
lot is happening. Yes, I know there's a lot of screaming,
explosions and more, But I do need to know the
story of the film. I understand. Also, the trailer is
very international. It being a very international movie. This will
make billion of dollars. I'm sure. I'm so happy for
everyone involved. But I do need to know what the
movie is about. I understand that, like, we don't really

(57:08):
go for the story, but it would be nice to know.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Would you say Way of Water was about? Oh the water?
I guess the baby was strongbe this is what I'm saying.
It's like, what do you remember from Avatar Way of Water?
My baby is strong? She was a singer of songs,
et cetera. Give me some lines of dialogue that is
not just like a nave screaming through the air, landing
on a spacecraft. Like I understand the humans are definitely
bad again, I like, we love that. I was once

(57:35):
told I look like Jake Sully Avatar version, not Sam Worthington.
And that's one minute. And don't any want to think
it's a compliment. No, No, that was just sort of
an additional fact I wanted to throw on there. You
feel you do?

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Think so honey about that?

Speaker 1 (57:49):
I actually can I say something when someone was like,
you look like Jake Sulley, look like Jake Sully I
was like, okay, and then I saw him and I
was like, not only do I kind of get it,
but I'll take it. Yeah, it's a gorgeous proportion and
like I think it was, it's like the long nose
and like the eyebrows like sort of like the like
ectomorphic positioning.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Yeah, ectomorphic positioning.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Themorphs, and there's mesomorphs. Ectomorph is long and lean like
Nicole Kidman.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
So everyone is either an ecdomorph or amorph.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I think it's I think it's plots on a on
a spectrum perhaps, Okay, yeah, the morpho spectrum I I
trust him with.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
That's a culture that is absolutely huge culture my anamorph be.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I know, a.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Bear maybe, but what what is my is that it is?

Speaker 1 (58:41):
That?

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Know what we're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
I don't know. For some reason I saw you and
this has nothing to do with but I saw you
becoming an ant eater taper Yeah, taper like and for
some reason, yes, those are really nice animals.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Okay are they nice? And ant?

Speaker 1 (59:00):
They're eating the ants? I'm happy? Yeah, thank god, I
really don't like ants.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yeah, it's one of.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Those things we probably should appreciate more because you know,
they have a function. In society. Again, there's got to
be something with like the.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Soil, there has got to be something. I like Mosquito.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Sure, I like the culture they worship one woman. I
like that.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Oh yeah, there's a queen.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Ant is a queen an.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Do you know how old old ants can get?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
How old the oldest ant.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Is thirty years old? W wow, flirty old? Really old?

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, that is so old.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
That's one of my funnest facts.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
We found out that the alligators we saw can lived
to seventy five or eighty.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
And the big one thing named Benjamin that I was
discussing earlier was approximately sixty years old, the same age
as Captain Kerry Kelly. Kelly, Captain Kerry is un below deck. Yes,
what was I gonna say about? Probably something amazing Avatar?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Oh yeah, I think I think most of the movies
are about them jumping on planes, you know, like or
them like roaring.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
She was a singer of songs. What an interesting line.
I mean, what what's happening is? I think Avatar one
was about like, Okay, we're seeing the planet like you
know what I mean, Like we're getting accustomed to it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Avatar to be like colonialism is bad, correct.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
I think Avatar two was obviously about our great oceans,
or rather Pandora's Great Oceans. And then fire and ash
I think is gonna have to do with I don't know,
I guess like the skies or something. And apparently there's
a lot of fire out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Are you doing earth water fire? Are they gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Air?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Feels like the logical progression. Okay, I feel like air
has already been in the movies. They've been flying around,
They've been flying around so much.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
This is this is my thought, and I might be wrong,
but to put up movies that are like colonialism is bad.
Like right, but it's too late, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
It's like, what are we to do about it still happening?
What's still happening? But you're right totally, well, so yeah,
have stopped it. Maybe that's not the point. Well, it's
about responsibility once that is the case by the mindset
of of malonialism. Yeah, of course, Yeah, respect and responsibility.
Once you've established a reality that is taken from something else,

(01:01:22):
it's like you must now honor the fact that like
it's you know, it's essentially being like reparations.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Also, it's like maybe it's too late to have happened.
It's not too late to try and correct, correct, give back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
You will never be one of the people. That's exactly
what the line was. Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
And then so that's from something you will of the
paper salad, thank you for and for a different.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Movie, explain that something. Okay, Okay, Emelia Perez herself. This
is coming out in December, as we know, so this
is to be seasonal. Yes, all right, this is Bowen Yang's.
I always always open the wrong app when it comes
to having to time something. Okay, this is Bowenyangs. I

(01:02:10):
don't think so, honey, his time starts now. I don't
think so many points sets. First of all, let's talk
about the spelling. One extra eye, one eye too many
after the tea.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
After the two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Tea's are the one. I'm not gonna look into it.
All I know is there's an errant eye, an errant
of silent eye. Okay, sure, you look like a damn weed.
And for a flower to have to be in a
pot that is wrapped in a specific kind of foil
that three seconds maybe going to be mistaken for the

(01:02:46):
pedal of the flower, I go, well, then you're leaning
too much on the container, and the flower itself is
not doing the right kind of work to aesthetically hold
the center of this presentation and arrange understand it. Why
are they everywhere? We've got too many Christmas plants, the tree,
the fucking mistletoe. Don't even get me started on that second.

(01:03:08):
And now I got to figure out this flower that
looks like ship. Get that out of my sight. I
don't think so many points out us. That's one minute.
You know, it's the it's the thing about it. It's
the thing about Christmas that I'm the most like, yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
It feels eighties. Why do they feel like it's an
eighties flowerlooke a decade?

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
You're so right? Yeah, why does it feel eighties? Because
it does?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
The container is this like shiny like yeah that the
dress beautiful dresses, beautiful dress to those to those flowers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
It does. Yeah, it has like a cocaine energy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
And I'm like, well, you know when you bend the leaf,
like white goo comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Like come, I guess you're right. I think. I think.
I think when I was grown a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
In church, I just go like yup with my nail
and it would just well, one time on Christmas, since
this is apparently CHRISTI episode Red and Green didn't realize.
But our the church I grew up in, everyone would
the lights would go down in the church and we'd

(01:04:20):
pass a flame. Everyone get a candle and pass the flame,
and at the end it would beautiful, everyone singing Silent
Night acapella. And I was five and holding the flame
and looking up at the church and kind of going around,
and then this woman starts hitting me in the head
and I don't know why. I'm just getting smacked in

(01:04:41):
the head and people are screaming. And then the lights
come on and I had lit my hair on fire,
and it was just like and I I do have
this memory. The most potent memory from it is the
pastor jokingly I now know, saying, well, Chris missus canceled.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
And that is humiliated, I know, because it stopped Silent Night,
and it was sort of talk like do we restart?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
It's like, no, let's just let's just go home.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Almost immolated. We have to go, we have to go.
But why that's nineties culture is let's fucking embarrass the
kid and and and have that be a trauma in
her fucking life.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
I do. I like, really don't like Christmas, and I
don't usually think of the story as why but that
you think, yeah, probably that sounds like a yeah, yes,
that was the worst Christmas ever? Was?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I love that Christmas album and the best Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Songs maybe the best that I know of?

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Thank you? Yeah, but you've you've you've done Christmas songs.
You've released some Christmas songs, haven't you making that up?
Which one would you release?

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
That was the worst Christmas ever?

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
That was the one? Oh, that would be really really good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
I'm doing like a Christmas show with Rufus Wayne right,
who I also sang with last night, which was amazing cool.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Where was that Western Hall?

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Partly like the New Yorker Festival, But I was like,
can we sing the Art Teacher together? It's just just
I don't know, if you know a song, I'll send
it to you. But he's, you know, a legend. He's
just like a history lesson within one person.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Rufus, Yeah holds it all. Yeah, can do can can
do judy at Carnegie Hall, and can also do opera,
do opera and then fucking rock with you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, that's speaking of rocking with you, it's time for
your I don't think son Grammy winning rock artists. Okay. Also,
I don't think so, honey, superstar.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
We don't know that yet, we do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I have faith.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
My heart is racing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
I can't wait to experience this. Awe. Don't be racist, sublime, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
I do need to. You have a screen protector and
I couldn't see the timer when you were faced out.
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Okay, okay, this I'm scared, Lucy. I don't think Sonny.
Her time starts now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
The boy with the dangly earring? Is he a villain?
I don't think so, honey. And here's why. First of all,
sometimes you have to wear the costume before it becomes
the clothes. Sometimes people are the ally at the Pride
parade for years before they figure out why they keep
showing up. Oh, why are we gatekeeping a gate that
all of us had to walk through a one point

(01:07:23):
or other specifically with the dangly earring. Sometimes we have
a guy with the dangly earing and then you wait
five years. You have a beautiful woman on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Your hands thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
In other situations, the guy takes out the earring. No
one was hurt. If you don't like that guy that
has to do with that guy's personality. And unfortunately, it
would be so easy if we actually knew who people
were from what they're wearing. But we do have to
do the hard work and take the time to find
out if someone is actually disingenuous or cool with us.
And I think that the threat of being made fun
of or thought of as disingenuous at the front is

(01:07:53):
intimidating people out of being creative and playful with their presentation,
which could lead them down a path to a life
that would be more tolerable and fun.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Oh my god, that that pierced through all of my
talused armor. My heart new episode unlocked. Just like on
all those themes, I have to say, I when you
when you started, and the way that you the way
that you structured that, I don't think so, honey, was

(01:08:23):
a misdirect because when you started by saying the boy
with the dangle earring here, I am thinking you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Tear that guy up and because it is easy to do,
but I think it's lazy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
You're right, it is easy to do, and I was
ready to do it. And then I and then I
had to assess based on your actual content. You queered the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Form you did innovative, that was the sublime, that was awe,
oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
So basically you are you currently having to be like
But I do hate the guy with the dan.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
I don't hate the guy with the dan.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Sometimes is the guy with the dangling and sometimes the
guy with the earring is hateable sometimes, but hate people
for who they are, you know, give them the dignity
of hating them for who they are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Let me talk. Let me go up to the dangled
and let me speak with them, you know what I mean.
And the judge then based on them showing me what's on
their phone, be it the the you know, huge breasted
manifestation of their sexual conquest desiralabilities thing or the bombs,
you know, something like that. But I do agree with

(01:09:30):
you that it's like you do have to let people
look maybe maybe in a way that you think is silly,
like people should express themselves with clothes. I do feel
and music and like art and stuff like that and
self expression. I feel like, let's not judge. Yes, I
hope I have not judged you too much too many

(01:09:51):
times in the past for the way you've looked whoa
you don't really read me for that like I'm mismatched
colors because I'm colorb you don't read me. I'm why
I bring this up, but I just I just hope
I've never gate kept an aesthetic. I don't think we
do that to each other, because this is the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
An aesthetic is the bridge to like the like the person,
or the the idea or like the political notion or
whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
It's like if you look the part so why I like,
it's why I like fascism moves through the like aesthetic
of fascism whatever. I won't get into that, you know
what I mean. Like that is like that is like
the literal front line, and so dangly earring, It's like, well,
let the person do a dangly earring and then that
might that will be like the locust, the inflaction point
for something else. The dangly earring is the bridge to
something else.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Y yeah, Or if it's not, they're at least the
type of person that would be willing to walk on
the bridge and then walk back to the other side.
Like I like people who are open to the idea
that they could be different than how they are and
then be like no, I think I'm I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I think I'm good. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Like
one time there was someone in my life who was
then not in it anymore, and a friend of mine,
in commiserating about this person, was like, and they wore
those stupid turquoise earrings.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Well, we can do that with our friends, and I remember,
I remember afterwards, I was like, now I feel a
little bad because I think the turquoise earring was kind
of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
There's so many things to talk about this person, about
the way they act and about they are. But retris
hearing actually made me pity that that person, because I
was like, oh, but that you know, sometimes people think
like I know who I am and so I'm dressing
this way. But a lot of people are like, I'm
gonna try dressing this way because hopefully I get encouragement
and then I can be more who I am. And

(01:11:34):
perhaps if that was encouraged in a specific type of person,
then they wouldn't be horrible, h very thought provoking. Thank
you for really, But.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Then also like you can be dunking on nasty people
with your friends about what they're wearing, but the like
just so let's rememberah, some clothes are ugly culture.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
I do think so some clothes. Yeah, well that was
And I know I'm so interested after we end, because
not everyone gets to know everything about what your other
out of thinks. Honeys are yes if they're structured like that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
I'm so excited to tell you. I hope that might
be my ick. Actually you might hear this and be like, no,
do you mean so we'll find out? Yeah, they don't
get to I don't. I trust you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Oh, thank you. And because we've established trust through through
connection through a Spotify song and a live performance. That,
by the way, yes, was by far the highlight of
that show for us.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I mean for me too, since I mean you did
the whole show. I only did that one moment, so
it's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
For rehearsal the day before it happened them in a
lot to us, that was a crazy week for a
lot of love.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
You did something amazing. By the way, I was like, oh,
you ask me to do something. I like you. I'll
do what you have asked. And then I showed up
and you put on a real like it was really
an award show. I did not know what I was
walking into and it was like so funny, way more
interesting than most award shows. You give give an award to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
From a Grammy winner okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Yeah, from an award haver to an award deserver.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Yeah, thank you. You were You're the best. And honestly
that that really it was like from inception of that,
of that idea of the of the in absentia to
then doing it. I just remember us being at the
end and after you came out and like that being
like I felt like we did it because that part
went so exactly. It was just like such a highlight

(01:13:31):
for us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Well, damn, forever's it feeling the archives by stream, watch
the videos.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Get the vinyl. Get the vinyl.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's coming out in December. Actually, here's something else,
Like I would have done this without promoting something.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
We would have obviously had you on without you and
promoting something. It was a matter of time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Okay, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
We love you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
We'll get dinner with Katie. Yeah, if you can stand
me after these other Lucy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
We're already obsessed. We don't have to go to supervid
and we can go work and go wherever we do
have to go to all time. Okay, just kidding. We
don't have to go all the time. We end every
episode with the song Oh don't.

Speaker 7 (01:14:17):
Want to close myss how uniful sleep because I miss
your babe, and A doll want missive because even.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
When a dream.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Never do last to miss you babe, and A don't
want to missive. If you want to hear that, listen
to all of our songs.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
If what's only those happening, I would have practiced Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Accessible Last Culture Reaches is the production by Will Ferrell's
Big Money Players and The Heart Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
Executive produced by Anna Has and used by beccar Ramo,
edited mixed by Doug Babe and our music is by
Henrik Mursky. Yeah