"Matt & Bowen's Infinite Playlist: The New Standards"

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look man, oh I see you? Why why and look
over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong
last culture. Well, here's the thing, y'all are probably feeling
some type of way, either positive or negative right now.

(00:21):
Wouldn't you agree, Bowen? I would agree because this is
a fun little time capsule. This is maybe one of
the last pieces of recorded media pre general election. Yeah, yeah,
we are recording this on Monday, November two. Tomorrow is Tuesday,
November three, That is election day. And we don't know
how everything shook out. Um we are. Things are probably

(00:42):
maybe even shaking out still, yeah, currently, and um, we're
all in it together. We hope we're feeling good right
now in the future, but if we're not, um, you're
in luck because nothing about this podcast going forward will
be about the election. This is a quote unquote safe space,
as I believe, um, white women call them. What you
said that we have to touch on some current events
before we get going on the mission of today's episode.

(01:04):
What are you talking about? Yeah, well, two things. Um.
One is Ariana Grand's positions, which I feel like Initially
my idea for the episode and my pitch to Bowen
was why don't we deep dive on positions and I
received the following response from Bowen, m letting me think
what about and then he kind of so it was
clear that he didn't want to do that. But I

(01:25):
do want to know your thoughts on the Albu. I
think it's a fine album. I think it's great, only fine.
I think I listened to it the first time and
I was really enjoying and satisfied, But then there was
something like it wasn't sticking in certain like there's certain
tracks that I really enjoyed that I was like, what
is it? And then I don't. I don't. I don't

(01:46):
want this to be a thing where I'm informed by
the critical response of something. But I do feel like
the thing that is that was articulated by some writers
was that, um, it's it's safe for Ari, but she's
like she is fully within her power to release this
kind of album, which I love. That it's like a
horny vibe the entire time, and it's and it's sustained
the entire time. I don't feel it's safe. I guess

(02:07):
I'm I'm on the other the other end of this.
I think like the criticism I'm hearing is that there's
not a lot of quote unquote growth, But for me,
it's like there's a lot of lyrical growth. I mean,
I think this is the funniest she's been. I think
this is the hornyest and sexiest she's been. And I
also think, like, um, you know, I feel like it's
the most fun she's had in a while. If the

(02:27):
album has weak spots, for me, it's in the collapse.
I actually think the just Ariana songs are better, and
I actually think that the album really picks up in
the second half, like all my favorite tracks are in
the second half of the album. But I love this
album and it really kind of is a throwback to me.
Um to like late nineties R and B, like like

(02:51):
early too early at R and B, and I like
R and B pop from that time, and I really
like it. Um But it's weird, like the response to
this has not in as emphatic as I think it were.
It was for Sweetener and Thank You Next, which I
think are great, but not as good as this one.
I don't know. Well, I listened to Thank You Next again,

(03:11):
and I remember kind of being lukewarm on it when
it first came out, But I listened back to it Now,
I'm like, oh, there are some like classic songs on
this Yeah, I mean, for sure it's a great album.
I just think, like for me, I was pretty done
for when she said I have have a drinking coffee like
you love the lyric I keep it squeaky. Oh you

(03:33):
know I keep it squeaky, And I would like to
think I keep it squeaky. I'm sure you do. But look,
I feel like Positions as an album, will it developed
the patina over time that like Thank You Next has sweetener?
I feel like has An aged that well? But Thank
You Next, I think has aged wonderfully. I feel like
Positions is sort of at the same frequency for most

(03:54):
of the album, and that's why I'm like, will it
when we look back on it and be like, wow,
one of Ari's best works? But I came on the
thread and said, wow, this is her best album since
Dangerous Woman, which I take back now. Unfortunately, it's so
funny because usually it takes me a while to warm
up to Ariana Grande albums because I am looking for
like that bop right off the bat, and even when

(04:16):
Position of the song came out, I was like, okay, cool, yeah,
interested to hear the rest of the album, and now
I like Positions more. Every single time I listen to Positions,
I like it more and more and more. It's so
it's having an interesting, uh relationship to this album because
I love it so much, sooner than I usually love
ari What are you are? Are you swatting at something?
I was cleaning the weed that I just put in

(04:37):
my bowl off the table and Ariana's album remind it's
a really good smoke and fuck album. Uh. So, I'm
just saying, maybe you're not enjoying it now, but wait
till you get your How do we say this, dick
hard vagina wit? Um? You know anything anything you've got

(04:57):
going on ready for sexual activity, and you've had you've
you've had this experience yourself. Cannot confirm her deny? Um
can I confirm her deny? But I'm just saying I
knew from the jump that this was going to be
that kind of record, and we are very excited about it,
and this I'm less excited about something else. And this

(05:20):
is a fucking bummer. Oh no, what is this? I'm
so sad about the passing of Nicky McKibbin. I mean,
she for everyone that doesn't know was the third place
contestant on the very first season of American Idol. She
kind of was like the original redheaded rocker of that show,

(05:41):
which kind of went through many many iterations of her.
So she really was a type on that show that
remained for many years, and she kind of was famous
for um kind of overstaying her welcome on the show.
She kind of beat out some I guess more iconic contestants,
like to Myra Gray, and she was like the first,
like how are they still on contestant? But I will
say this, looking back at her old performances, she actually

(06:04):
had a cool voice and a and a cool vibe.
She just was doing something different than everyone else was
at the time because the show at the time was
kind of very much focused on finding uh in female
singers like the next Celine Dion, Like it was very
much the era of the extended belt. You know, the
highest note would be the best singer quote unquote, and
she um was doing something different. She had she had

(06:25):
like a rock vocal, and she seemed like an unruly presence.
She definitely had stage charisma and uh maybe go check
out some some of her old performances such as I'm
the only One by Melissa Ethridge and Mary Jane by
a lot of Moore Set and Black Velvet by a
lot of Miles. I mean, it's the first time I
had ever heard the song Black Velvet and uh I
love that day. Yeah, So I was she passed away

(06:48):
of an aneurism at age forty two and so rest
in peace. That's very tragic. And I know that she
kind of had a rough go of things over the
past decade and a half or so, so very bummed
about that. But she left she left such a such
a meaningful mark on um are sort of musical knowledge,
like I wouldn't have had like an entry point into

(07:09):
like that kind of female rock vocal hadn't up in
for her. Yeah, I think that that was the first
time I heard Black Velvet two. Yeah, And you know,
it's so it's so interesting because I actually credit like
um a knowledge of music that I have to American
idol because you know, and I think this is kind
of maybe true for many of our contemporaries and people
that are our age, Like I don't know if I

(07:29):
would have known so much motown had you know, which
felt cool. I didn't know who Gladys Knight was until
she showed up as a guest judge in season two
and I was like, oh my god, I've heard that
Midnight Trained George a song before, and that's the Women,
and she has all these other songs like and who
were the like the Pips, and like it was. Yeah,
American idol, I think was really really actually solid prim

(07:50):
or prime or whatever on American music. And speaking of which,
how's this first seg I mean, you know, you know,
aroused to want to put on positions. She'd be proud
of what we're doing today. She'd be proud of a
couple of things are going on. This is the end
of our Matt and Bow and Get High trilogy, I
would say. And it's not to say that we won't

(08:10):
do it again in the future, but I think as
a serialized event, this is the third and final consecutive
episode where it's just me and Matt, no guest and
we Get High. Um, there's that. But then maybe, as
you've been able to tell from the title of this episode,
this is we are going to undertake something I think
very ambitious. Matt, what do you do you want to
how do you want to explain this? Well, so basically

(08:33):
a lot of times. Actually, after we talk about music,
some people will get in the d M s and
be like, y'all need to make a playlist like a
last culture Es playlist. Um, where we've talked about so
much music and people want one place to find it all.
So we actually are kind of free form gonna put
together a playlist right now called Matt and Bowen's Infinite

(08:55):
Playlist the New Standards, And this is gonna be a
public playlist that anyone one can you know, sign on
up for. And um, I think this is going to
end up in chaos, no doubt. But it's a collaborative
at for all of our listeners to contribute to. But
these are going to be these songs that are as
you've heard, not say the New Standards, the songs that

(09:18):
go into the New American Song Book. Is that correct? Yes?
So Hans is asking ahead of content. Hans is asking Bowen,
are you making a custom cover for this playlist? Absolutely?
I am you know bow and Yang be making custom covers.
Thank you, Hans, and Hans says owengy they're so good,
Thank you, Hans. This one will be this one will
be fun. I love whenever Bow and Yang gets customed. Okay,

(09:39):
so what is the mission here, Matt. Let's let's drill
down deeper into the mission before we let's get our
point of view very clear and solid for us and
for the listener, for the reader, before we start to
add to this playlist. This is very exciting. I feel
very I feel anticipation. Oh yeah, I mean I would
say that our goal for the playlists is for it
to be the best playlists of all time, obviously, and
to make every one happy that listens to it. No

(10:01):
one will have any criticism of it. That's one of
our goals. It's lofty goal, but I think we can
do it. And I would love for every single artist
that we shout out on this playlist to reach out
to us with praise. And so I would say that
those are sort of the the goals, hashtag goals I believe.
As white women say, um of the podcast, what would
you say abouten, I would say I would agree with

(10:23):
all of those points, and I would just also want
to maybe put out there the again lofty goal of
having almost every single artist musical artist that has ever
lived represented on this playlist. Yeah, and I also just
want to just preface right now this is not going
to be like a quote cool playlist. We don't care.

(10:44):
I'm not there's not going to be like any Grimes
on this, you understand, like, oh, yes, is Grimes cool?
Is that a good example? I think Grimes is cool?
Maybe I mean Grimes Grimes is politics would endanger the
lives of a lot of the people listening to this.
Perhaps is she certain endangering my life by by being
married to to that man? Ellen? Are they not married?

(11:08):
Are there? I don't even know. Yeah, it's really culture
number eleven. That's true. And you know what else is true? Um,
Hans is telling me to do this, and I and
thank you Hans. Where we have to tell you the
reader where and how you can find the playlist before
we start, and that is it's going to be a public,

(11:28):
collaborative Spotify playlist. We will do our best to refresh
it and um, I will convert it to an Apple
Music playlist as well, but it might not be a
real time, it might not track the additions um as well.
But we will give you the initial starter pack starter
deck of songs in the playlist on Apple Music, and
I will try to periodically update it. But you know,

(11:49):
if we're opening this playlist up to our many listeners,
and we love you very much. You know, things might
get a little bloated, wouldn't you say? I have to say,
I actually hate this idea and don't think it should
be collaborator of Well, then you put it out there.
I mean I was I thought it was just gonna
be me and you, But now you're you were the
one who would open the door say that. Did I
say that? Yes? You did? You absolutely did. No, Well,

(12:10):
I take it back. I don't think that any oh
should be able to come along and add a thing.
I think this is collaborative and that me and you
are collaborating. Oh okay, honey, I don't trust them. I
love them. I have an idea. I have an idea.
I have an idea what there's gonna be this playlist
and then there's going to be that is not collaborative.
And I'm going to start another playlist that are audition songs,

(12:33):
that are songs that you want to throw in the
running to be on the playlist. That's cool, and you're
gonna they're gonna be duplicate song adds. But I'm just
gonna filter it so that I see whatever whatever has
whatever songs have the most contributions, hits whatever, those will
be potentially in the running to be added into the songbook. Yeah,
and it's gonna be called Lost Cultures this um infinite playlist, Colin,

(12:58):
go ahead, give it a shot. Dot dot That's when
that's gonna be called. Go ahead, give it a shot.
I mean it's like, you know, you like the kids
try and then you see you see. So I'm very
excited for this, Matt, we have now them in Oh
oh thrilled, Oh thrilled. We have not really come in
with um are sort of pre pre biased or or

(13:21):
or inherent biases musically, although Matt did come in hot
on this zoom and said, why is Hayley Steinfeld the
queen of pop? The way Hayley Steinfeld is the queen
of pop? So first of all, it has to be said,
Hayley Steinfeld is kind of a queen of pop. And
we actually have an apology to make. We have a
sincere apology to make. We this actually happened a few

(13:42):
years ago. We got on this podcast actually was a
live podcast saving we were doing at the Bellhouse. I
don't remember the date. I'm gonna say like probably around
something like that. I don't remember exactly, but maybe it
was our third I don't think so, honey live. But anyway,
we got on the mike real hot, and sometimes when

(14:03):
we're in a live setting we do Matt and Bowen.
They get a little carried away the Lost culturestas and
they sort of say things that are crazy. Um, and
it ends up in a recorded episode of Lost Cultureistas.
But what we had said on this episode was that
Hailey Steinfeld was a Trump voter. That we had a
well placed source that said Haley Steinfeld quote couldn't stop

(14:24):
talking about Trump on the set of Pitch Perfect too.
We have been sort of reached out to by some
Haley fans who's have sort of given the receipts that
this is not true, and so we have to retract this.
Haley Steinfeld is not a Trump voter, but she is
a queen of pop. We're so we just want to
I just want to apologize again on my own behalf

(14:44):
and our behalf as a as a duo. Um, we
were so sorry. We're so emotional harm this may have
caused to Haley or her fans. Um, we love her,
We love her very much, and damning labels can really
hurt people, and so we have to sort of retract
that and say that Haley Steinfeld is not, we're gonna say,

(15:05):
not a Trump voter. But she is on the list.
She's on the playlist with the song love Myself. She's
on the playlist with the song love Myself. This this
song famously did not make the top two list of Culture,
but this is different, and she Loved Myself is on

(15:26):
the playlist. You would think that it might be too
early to add another Hailey Steinfeld song, but I really
really love rock Bottom very very much. Um, so I'm
going to add that as well. Rock Bottom is on
the list. We're on the red side of rock. And
here's here's the thing, um about Haley. You actually are

(15:49):
thinking that it might be too early to add another
Hailey song to the list. You might be thinking it's
not too early, because what actually goes on the list
is the song I Love Us, which samples no More
I Love used by Annie Lennox, and I like that,
and so it's on the list. And so we've got
three Hailey Steinfeld songs, which makes her not only the

(16:11):
reigning champion of the list. And we forgot to say this,
but there will be a Champion of the list at
the end. But she's also now in the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. So congratulations to Haley. She's the
Queen of Pop, and she's the Queen of Pop and
and and an inductee in the and the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame and the Champion of the list
so far. So she's already got three titles. And to
to know that in this moment she's the current reigning

(16:33):
queen of Pop is really huge. So congratulations to Haley Steinfeld. Um. Now,
I actually I'm immediately sort of pulled in a certain direction.
But what are you thinking? Because it's your turn to
add something? Okay, So my turn to add something now,
and this is of course the new Okay. Can we
get to the bottom of this. Their new standards. It's

(16:55):
not the new American song, but because that feels very
that feels that feels wrong to me. It should be
new standards, new songs that everyone should know and it
should define our generation. Absolutely, So every song here defines
a generation, which and I know it is your your turn,
but because you use this example, can I just shout
out one thing? Yeah, what I want to put in
a song, though, go put it in a song, then, okay,

(17:18):
I'm putting in a song. It's by one of my
favorite artists. I truly do, genuinely, genuinely think is a
is a generation defining artist. Charlie xc X Room Room,
Charlie xc X, room room. And it's actually so funny
that you say that, because you some people might think
it's too soon to add another Charlie song to the list,

(17:40):
but actually we just we just checked in and it's
actually not too soon, and that's why we're adding I
don't want to know by Charlie xc X to god,
I mean Fleetwood Mac who I don't want to know
Fleetwood Max song called I don't want to know. I

(18:01):
don't want to I don't want to know that. I
don't want to know that. Are you adding it to
the I'm not refreshing the playlists I'm adding, so I'm sorry.
I just got so excited that you how to do it.
At my time, I have to be able to keep up,
I have to be able to watch these come in live.
I completely agree with you. And so there we have
literally making a run for champion of the list. Charlie
x X with two Haley Steinfeld with three. So we

(18:24):
have a sort of tight race on our hands right now.
And um, we didn't even know it was also a
competition in this way, but all of a sudden it
suddenly has become that, you know what I mean, it
suddenly has um, is it my turn? It actually is
your turn, because I just got so excited about my turn,
and to think I still have this standard on the
back burner. But you go ahead and go, I'm going

(18:46):
to add and so far we've only added white women,
and I'm going to keep that trend going, as white
women say, as women's way, let's let's keep that trend going.
Is actually let's actually the white women say that, and
they do say that I am going to add a
white woman played by another white woman. There's a lot
of metaphysical stuff going on here. This is actually, oh

(19:07):
on a role, actually on a roll. Yes, actually that
belongs um as a new standard. That is a new standard.
And if you ever see a gay man um that
here's on a roll come out into public space. The
poppers come out quicker than he did in his life,
That's for sure. It took years to come out of
the closet, but it takes seconds for the poppers to
come out of the uh nap knapsack Fannie pack and

(19:32):
right onto the noses of many gay Americans worldwide when
on a Roll comes on, this younger generation of new
queers coming up, I mean, they really have it. Um
not easier, but they they're they're able to arrive at
some sort of realization much more quickly with the help
of a song like on a Roll by Ashley Oh.
They hear it, they go, I have to come out
as whatever my queerness is, yes, and as the pappers

(19:56):
as well. And you know, I would also say the
thing about Ashley Oh is this is crazy. Actually Miley Cyrus,
I didn't know who was playing her until oh my god,
very until you just said it. Yeah, it's a mile man.
Let me say that she really transformed on that one,
which is funny because she was famously on a show

(20:19):
where she transformed and sort of flip flop between you know,
Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus, who she really is. Yes,
so we see her sort of revisiting that theme and
the song on her roll. I'm getting word Matt that
it is actually too early to include another Ashley Oh song,
of which there are only there's only one, so um
that exists at least in Spotify, maybe the Black Mirror

(20:42):
Universe or many more. I would imagine that Ashley always
built a career off of many hit songs, not just two.
So I am getting word that it's too early to
include another Ashley Oh song. So I'm sorry you are
not allowed to include another Ashley song. That's fine because
I actually wasn't going to add an Ashley Oh song
at this time, or a Miley Cyrus song, So even

(21:02):
an alter ego isn't getting one, and I'm certainly not
going to add any hand I'm on tanis on the
list because we actually can announce at this time no
handam Antana songs will be on the playlist. That's actually
we're just not actually really controversial because songs like um,
see You Again, I mean, that's that's it should be
a new a new standard. But the thing is, isn't

(21:23):
that a Miley song doesn't see You Again count as
Miley and not Hannah. But I think if you go, like, look,
if we were to look up Montana, look at she
gets her own listings. Yeah, okay, see You Again, it's
technically a Miley song. You're right, so, but but that's
what's not being added. It's not at this time, at
this because it it is my turn and at this

(21:43):
time I I kind of threw the word theme out there.
I said, the theme of switching between two different identities,
or as some white women who get a little spiritual
call it duality. Um say that. Yeah. So, speaking of themes,
the next song that will be added to the list
of New Standards is the theme from Jurassic Park. The

(22:05):
theme from Jurassic Park is now um on the mantain
Bone Infinite Playlists. The New Standards talk about this, talk
about this theme? Who wrote it? What? What movie was
it for? What? What is the movie about? Well, it
was actually for the film Jurassic Park, and it was
written by John Williams, who is you know, uh composer

(22:26):
who sort of sat down and thought, okay, so let
me get the majesty and sort of um, you know,
grandeur of Jurassic Park down, and also you know, the
sort of call you here in the beginning, the who
oh my god that might have been the right pitch
even um uh sort of calls to mind how a

(22:52):
slow moving herb before dinosaur might call out um, and
so I also iconically see those big old gates opening
when I hear this music, and I feel the sort
of hearkening back in time and also the promise of adventure.
And so I think it's a great theme and I

(23:12):
think it is a new standard. Don't you agree? You
I agree, and thank you. So I have nothing to add.
Thank you so much for for speaking at length about that.
I wanted to ask you one question before you add
a song. Yes, if you had to write words to
the Jurassic Park theme song, what would they be? Okay?
Who that woman over there? It's Laura Derney and she's

(23:40):
has the hair. She's that woman over there. She is
a Laura. She is helping out with the dune. She
loves to help like a doctor helped the dine. So

(24:05):
it's actually the words are Laura dern loves to help
out with the dinosaurs like a doctor does, like a
doctress in parentheses like a doctor doctor does. So that's
actually on the infinite playlist, and congratulations to that song.
It is now come time for you Bowen to add,
you know, a song to the list. I'm going to
add a really important song and that is going to

(24:29):
be Light My Candle from the Rent Original Motion Picture version,
not Daphne, Reuben Megan, Adam Pascal, but Rosario Dawson and
Adam Pascal, just because you know, the sound is a
little bit better. It's from a movie. They didn't record
it in some dusty studio on you know, a Monday.
You know what I'm saying. Yes, And I have to say,
like my my immediate impulse to this, and it is

(24:52):
an excited impulse. Um, is that I'm really excited to
hear from Rosario after this. I would love for her
to praise us. I want her to come praise us.
And also, you know, maybe Corey Booker can like sort
of pop in the zoom. I don't know why I
think of this happening on a zoom. Maybe it's because
I'm sort of wanting her to be on the pot
or something. Oh my gosh, Well, are you more excited
for Rosario or for John Williams to to send you

(25:14):
a word of praise? Well? If John Williams sent me
a word of praise, that certainly would be a great
act of God. Because he has passed. Um, I'm so
sorry I think has he passed? Producers? Did John william
pass She has not passed away. He's he's alive. And

(25:36):
this is the second time. This is the second time
I've declared someone dead on the podcast that hasn't been dead. Wait,
who was the first one? It was Hugh Hefner and
then he died. Oh my god. On the Peter Smith episode,
we were saying, we came in a hot being like,
Hugh Heffner is dead, and we had to record like
a pre like a pre intro to the show, which

(25:59):
was saying, on this episode we say, Hugh Havefner his dad,
he's not. Six months later he did die. I mean,
this is the beauty of having a podcast and having
it sort of crystallized forever. Um. Yeah, there was a
time when we thought, you have never his dad. There
was a time when we had to say that he
had not died. And then now there was a time

(26:19):
in which she did in fact die after that, exactly exactly,
and we did. We did end correcting the record on that,
so that's good. But Hans just kind of said, if
you killed John Williams just now dot dot dot, how
dare you? How dare you for attacking not just a
composer but someone on the playlist. That's crazy. Shut up, Hans,

(26:40):
shut up. I think it's um. I think light my
Candle is a really fun song, huge song for musical theater.
I think I think I do know all the words.
Let you forget gotta light? I know you your your
ship ring? Can you make it? Can you make it?

(27:03):
It's nothing? And they turned off my heat and I'm
just a little week on my feet. Would you like
my candy? What did you start? Yet? Nothing? You're here
in the moonlight. You look familiar. Now it's can you

(27:24):
make it? No? No, just having need much? Okay, well
let's look this up. I thought I was going to
do this. Wait, well we're going to get through the song. Oh?
I know you you're shivering. It's nothing. They turned off
my heat and it's little. Would you like my candle?
You start? Yes? Yes? Just having me much today? At
least the room stops spinning anyway, what nothing? You smile

(27:49):
reminded me of? I always remind people who is she?
She died? Her name was April. We have to stop?
Is this so keep going? It's out again? Sorry, patcher friend?
Would you like again? Yeah? Now I don't know. Yeah,

(28:11):
Oh the wax it's tripping. I like it the scene
night fingers, I figured, oh well, good night. It blew
out again? No, I think I dropped my stack. I
know I've seen you out and about when I used

(28:31):
to go out your candles out? Then I had it
when I walked in the door, it was pure. Is
it on the floor and the floor out? What? You're
fair again? Oh no, I mean you do have a

(28:55):
nice I mean you look for miliar like a dead
girl friend. Don't only when you smile. But I'm sure
i've seen you somewhere else. Do you go to the
cats Catch club? That's where I work. I dance. Yes,
they used to tie you up. It's a living I

(29:16):
didn't recognize you without the handcuffs. We could either can
come on. That was my last match. Oh no, no, no,
we missed um. Why don't you don't forget that stuff?

(29:38):
You look like your sixteen. I'm nineteen. We changed my
eighth I was, but don't be fat. Our once was
born to be bad. I used to shiver it like that.
I have no heat. I told you I used to sweat.
I gotta call. I used to be a junkie now

(30:00):
and then I liked it feel good and then it's
and then it's what he sees it. Oh he's oh wait,
what's that? Uh ka? And now that was my last match. Alright,

(30:24):
just thank god for the moon. Baby, it's not the
moon at all. I hear spikily shooting down the street.
You're changing the key everything. I'm sorry? Am I doing
it every single time? By bug b bug cold hands?
Yours do a little bit like your father's want to

(30:50):
dance with you? Yeah? No with my father, I'm Roger
the cool Yeah yeah, I went up the octave. Honey,
you really did. I didn't hit it. I didn't. I

(31:11):
didn't hit it right, unfortunately, Rosarioca never But the song
is on the playlist. You know, if you haven't tuned
out at this point, we really thank you because we're
only after all eight songs in Hailey Stein Felt Still Rain,

(31:33):
just Champion off the list, Queen of Pop and inducted
into a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But it's
so funny that you were talking about light my Candle
because you know has a song called lights Ellie Golding
that is not on the list, but Army by Ellie
Golding is on the list. Wow, Army, I love that song.

(31:56):
This is my favorite Ellie Golden song, and it's good
for it. You can say it to a lover, you
can sing it to a friend when I'm with you,
When I'm with you, stand then the riff down is impossible.
She's a freak. But we love Ellie. We love Ellie

(32:18):
so much. Army is a wonderful edition. I think I
am a little I'm trying to figure out where where,
where with the next direction of this playlist is going
to be, at least for my for my um contribution,
I'm sorry. Do you have anything more to say about
Army by? You know? I just like I like the
song and feelis should be on the playlist, And um,

(32:39):
what's your song you're gonna add? Well, I think I
am gonna do. Um. See, that's what's tough is I
want to make the playlist fun. But as we have said,
this is not a cool playlist. No, this is not
a cool playlist. But I want to add a song
that I worry that the reading, that the interpretation of
it will be that I'm trying to be cool. But
I think this is such a wonderful song and it's okay. Well,

(33:01):
I'll let you know. It's I want to be Your
Lover by Prince. It's such a lovely Prince song and
one of my favorite Prince songs. You gotta put it on.
I'm gonna put it on, Okay, So it's lovely Prince song.
It ends, it goes into the instrumental after like the
third minute, so you have the option of skipping after

(33:21):
he's done singing, or you can listen to the whole
track and honor Prince himself. So I'm gonna add that track.
M I love that. Um. You know, here's the thing
about Prince. Prince famously had a song called Purple Rain.

(33:42):
Now here's the thing about rain. Rain is one of
the words in Mariah Carries I can't make it through
the Rain, which was not even really in the top
fifty of her songs. What it is on the playlist amazing,

(34:04):
I can make it through the rain. Um, what does
the song mean to you? What does it mean to
you when she says she can make it through the rain, Well,
it makes me believe that I can get through anything.
Because of Mariah carry can get through glitter and Tommy
Mantola than anyone can get anything. It really really makes
me happy that she survived so now, but when what's

(34:27):
the next song that you were going to put on
the list? Okay, well, I think Through the Rain by
Mariah Carey makes me think of someone standing on the street, um,
in the rain, being soaked by the rain, maybe a
sex worker. And I think this song is an ode
to sex workers. It's called Government Hooker by Lady Gaga.

(34:49):
The third time thought her amazing album Born this Way,
She amazed. She has such an amazing bridge where she
um says put your hands on me and John F.
Kennedy such stupid, stupid, stupid lyrics, um, but actually kind
of like amazing and iconic. I love I missed this
Gaga era where she was just like I'm gonna do
whatever the funk I want on this Caromatica kind of

(35:11):
had that, but this is like it's pure chaos, and
I kind of love that she was able to write
a song called Government Hooker and make it to um
the top half of this album. I would completely agree
with you. And you know something I really, um really
love about um. Sort of when you just sort of
called to mind sex work, is it really brings me

(35:32):
to the red light district, you know what I mean?
It's sort of like um, it sort of brings me there.
And I think that no music video I sort of
recalled that and no, um no energy has been sort
of calling to mind like that zone quite like Beyonce's Partition,
which is you know it's it's on the list. Oh
and and does that sound take place in the red

(35:53):
light district? I mean it gives me red light district.
See what you're saying. Well in the music video, if
you heard it, like if you heard it out at
the red in the red Light District, you'd be like, Yeah,
I'm at home here. Yes, I'm at home here, and
I actually feel really good about being here. Do you
think this is the only playlist that exists online with
the Jurassic Park theme and Partition by Beyonce on it together?

(36:15):
I think we've already made history after after you added Partition,
there has been no there's been other playlists with Government
Hooker and the Jurassic Park theme. There have been other
playlists with Army by Ellie Golden with um you know,
certainly with rock Bottom by Hayley Steinfeld. Now you've added
Partition by Beyonce. You've made history with this playlist, and
I thank you and I admire you very deeply for that.

(36:38):
That really made me emotional when you said that you
admired me. I always do when I'm with you. When
I'm with you, okay, partition makes me think of drivers,
and when I'm driving, I like to think of another

(37:02):
song by another group of texts and women. This is
Whos by the Chicks. Yes, you know they actually they said.
Originally they said that it was going to be too
early to add another sorry, another song by the Chicks
to the list. They we're saying that earlier, but now
they're saying, we actually can add another song by the Chicks,

(37:22):
and it is not Ready to Make Nice by the Chicks,
because name a better song, Name a more cathartic song.
I dare you, reader, I dare you, if you can
name a more cathartic song, Matt and I will pay
you what hundred dollars each? Yeah, you'll get a hundred
dollars from each of us, each of us and your
Venmo if you can name a more iconic song than

(37:45):
not Ready to Make Nice cathartic song, cathartic, well, cathartic
and iconic. Actually, the thing is they're the same, you know,
sort of the same, like a lot of white women like,
they're like, that was so cathartic. And what they mean
is like they had an iconic moment. That's little, that's
just what a what a lot of white women say.
A lot of white women I've heard say Marilyn Monroe
was so cathartic. Yes, that's true. Yeah, they say they

(38:08):
look at a photo of her, and a white woman
will often go, such a cathartic figure, you know what
I mean, she was such a cathartic figure. It makes
just enough sense, but not enough to fully be like
for you to fully emphatically agree, Yes, someone says a
cathartic figure, You're like, I you mean tragic or but

(38:30):
you know what they mean, it's cathartic. It's like it's
like them being like, oh my god, you know it
was such a cathartic moment when Michelle fell with us
and his child, that was cathartic. Like, and you're like, um,
I don't think you're using that right, But do you
know my favorite miscuse of a wordever or makeup of
a wordever? Magical? Tragical? Oh my god, that you know

(38:51):
me because you've talked about in the Path before. But
I think we can back a word. Tragical is a word.
Not to me, it's not here the thing readers, there's
a podcast series long discussion on whether or not tragical
is a real word, or if it's dumb people misusing

(39:12):
tragic and maybe it's in the dictionary because they finally
were like, God, make tragical a word, because these white
women can't stop. And it was an iconic, not cathartic,
iconic Italian woman. That's why who did this Italian? That's

(39:33):
why cathartic and tragical are not the same thing. But
cathartic is the same as iranic iconic. I'm so sorry, yes, yes, yes,
yes deeply. Now with this sort of this moment has
been cathartic. This is a cathartic episode already. This is
such a cathartic episode. What's your next one that you're

(39:54):
going to add to the playlist that everyone can listen
to publicly? I know that I know that face that
you're making. It's that face of it's that face of
you want to say thriller by Michael Jackson, but you
know that will be fucked up. You know that will
be so fuck up. I have a song Okay, the

(40:14):
song I'm going to add will be the thriller. It's
not thriller. It is the opening track on the amazing
Grammy winning album Fearless by Taylor Swift, and it is
the title track. It is Fearless by Taylor Swift because
it's another country song. It's about UM, not having fear,

(40:34):
not ready to make nice, about not having um fear
and not having guilt and not having um the space
in your heart to forgive, and Fearless is a song
about fearlessly driving down in the open road with a
new love of your life. Yes, thank you for that,
And I'm really happy to finally sort of know what

(40:57):
those two songs are about UM. And thank you of
breaking that down. Speaking of fee, are actually gonna I'm
gonna add what I pretty much I'm gonna be positive
it is going to be the scariest song on the list.
Oh my God is a thriller by Michael Jackson. No,
I know enough to not say that. That will be
fucked up to say that, and I'm trying to be
cathartic in a different way. The sort of song I'm

(41:19):
thinking of is, of course, the very spooky anthem Ghostbusters.
Ghostbusters theme song has made it on the list Name
a more iconic moment than Ghostbusters by Ray Parker Jr.
I'll wait, I can name a more cathartic song, and
that is a Huey Lewis in the News song which

(41:39):
m Huey Lewis a sued Way Parker for I believe
um for sounding too much like the Ghostbusters theme from sports.
I believe the album is what Hans you know? Are
you talking about power of love? No? No, h Lewis
in the News. No, I'm I know Huey Lewis because
my mom was like so wet for Huey Lewis for

(42:00):
my entire life. Was it on like? Was it like
Honkytown Blues Dog? Do you know this hunt engineer Doug Okay,
I want a new drug? Yes, it was drug when
the woman was sick. Yep. I love this song. But
but Lewis just um Is maintains that the Ghostbester's theme
was ripped off. If I Want a New Drug, Blois

(42:22):
did receive a settlement. Shoe Lewis did receive a settlement
sort of that blurred lines controversy. Oh my god. And
speaking of which, the next song on the playlist is
in fact blurred Lines. It's controversial, Yes, yes, the Blurred
Lines playlist. And the crazy thing is actually it's in
the contract of the playlists that if Bowen adds something,

(42:44):
I am powerless to stopping it, like I can't stop it,
and so the same is true for me. Wow, I
can't believe that blurred Lines is on our playlist as
something we endorse as a as a duo. I actually know,
you know, I take it back. This steels wrong. History
is being made. I'm taking a song out of the playlist.

(43:06):
This is the first time in in Matt and Bowen
playlists history that a song has been added and removed.
And you know what, I'm going to add a song
as an apology because I think this is a song
that's calling myself out. He wasn't man enough, by Tony Braxton.
He wasn't man enough to keep blurred Lines on the playlist,
And I'm not man enough to keep blurd Lines on
the playlist. Do you want to hear something about my

(43:28):
hashtag problematic past? As a lot of women say so,
when I was very little, I would do When I
was I think nine or two, you would do it.
Tony Braxton impression, I would do two impressions, share like
no matter how that and because because they had the
same kind of deep voice, I would do who was

(43:49):
a man enough me? And my mother loved it so
much that she used to say. She used to say,
we need to get you on Rosie. That's what my
mother used to iconically say. And a lot of white
women used to say that to their kids, we need
to get you and they actually did. But the she,
Katrina wanted you to get on Rosie, to do the

(44:10):
Tony Braxton impression, to do my impressions of Sharon Tony Braxton,
which I have to say, I'm very happy is not
a thing. Oh my god, imagine. But I loved Tony
Braxon's deep, deep voice. We all do how she could
somehow have that deep, rich quality and also be belting

(44:31):
for the gods. Never sleep on the next song on
our list, and they said it was too early, but
we've since got it cleared up, which is unbreak my
heart by Tony. I mean, this is a song that
is so low and so high. And guess what, Mama,
it is hard to be both. It is hard to
be both. She really gives you a big, big Canyon

(44:54):
of Arrange, doesn't she? Do you want to hear us
little story that is also about my mother and Tony Braxton. Yes,
there's more. We went to go see the Broadway musical
Aida when I was younger, and it was currently at
the time, it was starring Tony Braxton, and also in
the show was Mentel as m At the time when

(45:17):
you wouldn't get quite as excited about Adina, but I
do love looking back and knowing she was in there.
So I loved, you know, the show. I think it's fabulous,
or I did at the time anyway, and we were
leaving and I turned to my mother and I said,
what did you think of the show? I thought it
was amazing, and she was like, I like the show.
I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was

(45:38):
pretty good. My mother was so obviously flying high from
hair spray or something, so I was like, well, did
you think that Tony Braxton was absolutely fabulous? I'm I'm,
you know, sort of ten years old and gay. And
my mother took a deep breath and she turned to
me because she knew this was going to be controversial
and that I'd be mad at her, But she said,
Matthew I think she has beautiful voice. I could not

(46:02):
understand all of what she was saying, and I was like,
I acted like I had paid for the tickets. I
was like, few people, you're disgusting. Don't talk to me,
you fucking tasteless, crude white woman. I was like, crude
white woman. And I think what she was sort of

(46:24):
saying was Tony Braxton's diction left something to be desired, which,
while being absolutely true, I didn't appreciate hearing. Sorry, who
is she? Um? Matteo Lane in the year two thousand
and fifteen, reading Ariana Grande for her lack of addiction. No,
and we love Mateo, do not cut it out. We're

(46:48):
not getting that out. And I know we should. We
should disclaim that we love Mateo so so dearly and
we we will miss him very much, but he the Mateo.
You can admit, if you're listening to this, that you
would not lay off miss Ariana for a year. Pitch
problems are like, you know, Mateo is sort of sharpening
his Mateo. Mateo does out of a place of love.

(47:09):
I remember that Mateo would tell us it's because I
love her and believe you, and because it's because he
saw a great future for her. I mean he's not
scared to read the ones he loves the most. I mean,
he's the he's the king of the Lambs. And the
episode of his of law schools racist is called it's
a shame about Mariah. So understand, this is someone who

(47:31):
you know, for better or worse, reserves criticism for the
ones he loves most because he doesn't care about the people.
He doesn't care about exactly he cares. He's making a
comment because he cares. That's that's what's going on. Speaking
of people I don't care about, I'd like to say
the opposite of that, which is people I care about,
which is Bowen Yang. Because it's his turn to add
something to the list. I care about you too, Oh,

(47:54):
I care about you so deeply, so deeply. I am
going to add um a song that is also about
a body part. Okay, my heart is um, and this
is a song called UM. This is my Hair by
Alaska Thunderfuck Fantastic. Let's add it. This is her hair.

(48:18):
In fact, she doesn't wear wigs, and stop asking if
it's a wig. It's her hair. She says it in
the song. She says it in the song she takes
her vitamins. She's a natural platinum blonde. Are the lyrics
in the song, and don't you forget it she takes
her vitamins. Maybe you should try taking your vitamins now.
It's interesting that we talk about hair because for me personally,

(48:42):
I'm actually going to travel from the hair all the
way to a different body part, which is skin. When
I add Rihanna's song Skin to the list, this is
a underrated Rihanna absolute smash. Skin is a xy song
off the Loud album. And I'm so thrilled that Rihanna

(49:04):
makes her debut, her cathartic debut on the list. Oh
my god. And actually I'm getting worried now that is
not too early to add more Rihanna, And in fact,
it's not going to add It's not too early to
add more Loud Rihanna. No, I I really I feel
an energy for you. I think we're thinking about the

(49:24):
same thing, and I'm really excited. I'm going to add
one of her best collaborations. It's What's My Name by Drake.
Oh No, you don't know, see you like a different
Rihanna song. Yeah, but you know what I'm gonna say
And I love that we're sort of like agreeing that
it's not too early or late to add Rihanna to
the list. But before I do clarify, what's my name?

(49:44):
I mean talk about it because I'm so in agreeance.
She was asking her lover what her name is, and
she is actually expressing and barry and no in certain terms.
She really wants to see if you can go down
to town with a girl like her. Hey, boy, she
really wants to be with chick because you're just her type.

(50:05):
Na mh hey, well, really what she wants as a
man who can take it over looking for a guy
sort of is it pull me over, flip me over,
put me over, and then oh an amazing song. Now,
because it's still currently true that it's not too early

(50:27):
to put more Rihanna on the list, California King Bed
is being added to the list at this time. This
actually was cathartically a Rihanna single. This is when she
was like, I'm actually going to release ballads like every
other girl, and before she sort of, you know, moved
away from that and started just doing more the Rihanna thing.

(50:48):
I think the last Rihanna ballad was stay right, Stay Well,
We can would we consider? Um? I mean like, maybe
what NA is that a ballad? Thing's off of Antie.
I feel like our little murkier Anti close to you. Um,

(51:09):
you know it's ballad. She she kind of tried to
innovate outside of ballad spaces after after unapologetic yes, yes, yes, indeed. Okay,
Now I'm wondering, because it's your turn, what you're thinking
about adding to the playlist. Well, I'm actually getting worried
now unfortunately that it is too early to put in

(51:29):
any loud Rihanna, but not too early to put in
Rihanna in general. But I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that. But I'm going to
add a song that I think we all know very
very well, we all know very very well, and that
is Um, you know, California King is about owning things,

(51:53):
is about having the California King bed um. And she
even feels distant even though she's on this California King
bed um. That's a cathartic image, cathartic image. I'm going
to add a song about consumerism, and that is I
Don't Want It at All by Kim petris Um. Kim's

(52:13):
debut on the list and really her debut into the
gay public consciousness. I say, because she hasn't really appeared
outside of the gay public consciousness yet, but we are
waiting for that to happen. But two gay people. She
became sort of more famous than oh, I don't know
the President of the United States um because she actually

(52:34):
could be seen performing in West Hollywood, Los Angeles, California, America,
often at six different bars at once. She somehow was
literally everywhere, like you'd see her at beaches sort of
singing I don't want it at all. You'd see her
sort of at Revolver singing I don't want I don't
want it at all. I think they cloned Kim Petris
so she could be in every West Hollywood UM bar

(52:57):
and a half or half a bar she there was
at one point at Kim Petris um at three different
locations of The Eagle and the Rosemond Bar in Brooklyn,
New York. She would be there there, There'll be three
of her walking around being like, Hi, my name is Kim,

(53:17):
I'm German, and I'm I'm a pop star, and you're
gonna be like, who is this girl? And then she
was like hate you with the vocals and you'd be like,
oh my god, we love this. Yes. And it's actually
so funny because that very same Kim Petris at that
very same time was also somehow at the hard Rock
Cafe in Anaheim. So this is it's really crazy that
that that's all true, but it is now. They actually

(53:39):
said they were sort of saying earlier that it was
going to be too early to add Kim Petras to
the list again, but what about now, But and they're
still saying that. They're still saying that, so we actually
can't we can't add more Kim Petras at this time.
But sort of something that is happening is they're saying,
you have to go back and think more about Huey Lewis,
and you have to add actually one Huey Lewis song.

(54:01):
And that's why I am adding the song if this
is it by Huey Lewis to the list, which goes
like this, if this isn't, please let me know. If
this is it? Love Bpit, just say so. And I
think our hot producer, a hot engineer, Doug does know
that song. Can he confirm? I just want to connect

(54:25):
with um Doug sort of over straight heterosexual sounds for
this one moment, because that's to me palitable for straight people. Truly.
The title is if this is it? Doug, are you
listening to the podcast? He just asked the title question mark,
listen to the podcast, listen to the power. We're not
gonna tell you it's it's this, It's is this it?
We told you it's if this is it? Anyway, if

(54:47):
this is it, we're moving on and he can sort
of catch up with me later. Okay, I'm gonna not
do the ac that we've been doing, and I'm actually
going to add a song. This is a song that
is important to the country. Um. It is Fire by
Katy Perry. I don't know a more patriotic song. It's
not more cathartic than I'm not really to make nice,

(55:09):
but it is the most patriotic song we've ever had.
It's it's actually way more patriotic than that song, which
is not on the playlist. And I'm proud to be
an American American. I think I'm like really not doing
well with pitch today. Am I like sort of not
in the right key at any time? I think you
were are you were in the right area. And I'm

(55:31):
proud to be an American. We're at least that no
love be I don't know, but that song and I'm
proud to be an American America at least, And then
who died? Who gave that right? Next to you? To God?

(56:08):
But it's not I did not harm I did not harmonize. Well,
I'm so sorry because it's not on the playlist. Um,
but speaking of America, UM, one song that's sort of
to me like says we're like really free? Is Demi Levado?

(56:29):
Is cool for the summer? Um, I name a name
a free or song of song about freedom. Name a
song that's more about freedom, which is, you know, sort
of I am exploring girls and I'm a girl, you
know what I mean? Like that that that's pure freedom,
That is pure catharsis, you know what I mean? Like,
that's so cathartic to say that, like and to think

(56:51):
that today bow and Yang sort of reminded me of
Demi Levado when he made a hilarios joke which was
he spell h e l A r e o s hilarious.
So basically today Bowen did like a really cathartic thing
when he put on his grid Demi l vado voting,

(57:13):
and he said something which was so funny and cathartic,
which was he said that more like demil vota. I said,
it is demi le vota. It is demil vota. And
then deleting this. Yeah, but I have not deleted. What
if I would you do if I deleted it? Be
so mad? This? Actually I was Actually Boone has been

(57:35):
doing this sort of quote unquote thing, which is like
he'll be like felt cute, might delete, which is like
a very white woman like he always goes deleting this later,
deleting this, deleting this, which is to me like stunting
and annoying. It's like stand by it or or and
keep it up, or you're just asking for You're asking
for it in a strumpety way, and I just you know,

(57:57):
strumpets you're talking about like my thirst traps. No, not those.
Anytime you say it take and you're like whatever, deleting this,
it's like, bitch, keep it up. No, you're right. I
don't think deleting this culture. Deleting this culture is bad culture.
Cure is bad culture. But I almost never make an
issue of this with Bowen, But on this post where

(58:18):
he said deleting this. I was moved to comment and
I said, no, leave it up. I will be mad
in a real way if you delete this. Here you go.
Didn't do it, but anyway, let me just quickly run
over to the list and add Coup for the Summer

(58:39):
to the list, which I believe. And I always say
the reason why I sort of associated with like America
because I think it's an American standard. I think that
our grandparents had somewhere over the rainbow and our grandchildren
will have cool for the summer. Yes, that's what I
always Oh my god, what a great song. A great song. Okay,

(59:00):
I am going to add a song. It's my turn.
I think I believe it is. This is another song
about summer, and I'm sorry to have broken the Tailor
seal on to be the first one to break the
Taylor seal on this plays. I'm gonna ad another Tailor song,
also about summer. It's called Cruel Summer that did not
get its due. It should have been a single off
of Lover, one of the sort of better tracks off

(59:22):
of Lover. I would say it's definitely the one that
says I'm a single the most that didn't get that
treatment and weird exactly exactly. Um, you know, there's not
much weak that hasn't been said about Cruel Summer. I
feel like it might be the most talked about song
of all time. In many ways, people feel a sense
of just or of injustice of it not getting the

(59:44):
single treatment. I think it's sort of like an intergenerational
thing where across all demographics everyone is like, why the
funk wasn't Cruel Summer a single off of Lover? Yeah?
Oh yeah? All across America they're saying that, and um,
you know, it's it's it's a topic that's worth having
and continuing in discussion and sort of things like that. Um, sorry,

(01:00:07):
my brain is broken. Three. It's just like in three
I can't even tell you what just happened. Um, which
actually is interesting, um, because I think that once I
stopped and did something, I was able to sort of
get my thoughts back. And what I stopped and did
was I breathed. And that's why I'm adding breathed by

(01:00:29):
Faith hill To And it was on the actual list
of the top two moments in culture history. This is
actually a cathartic moment in Lost culture Asta's history because
it is the first song that was on. Yes, this
is the very first time that an item from the
top two hundred. This is crazy moments of culture. I

(01:00:53):
literally can't move about saying. This is also on the
Mantain Bowens Infinite Playoffs for the very first time. That
makes it the most famous song them all time. That
makes it the most famous song of all time. Tell
everyone about what Faith Hill does here. I mean, well,
one thing she does is she goes suppose to be

(01:01:15):
Remember that. Remember when she went being with you gets
me that way? Oh my god, do you remember when
she went, I can feel the sunladens across your face
and ah, never been this sweptory? Oh my god? Remember

(01:01:39):
when she went co terrast start that first ben love
and then you already did this? Okay, wow, what just
transpared last fifteen seconds? I don't would be like remember

(01:01:59):
when she went And Doug just said in the in
the in the chat, wow. And this is the first
time he's ever directly emotionally commented on something because in
the Little Box we might have to at least this
video because Yang did not know one of the words
he was singing, and then he sort of went to
discussed that and coughed and coughed, and this is actually

(01:02:23):
we might have to make a new list because that
was a moment in culture. I don't know. No, I
don't want that to be on the list. That was
a low moment. I know it was a high moment
because you were the way you were cathartic in that moment.
It was a cathartic moment. It was a way I'm
not cathartic right now. I don't feel cathartic. Please, you're

(01:02:46):
making you're being cathartic in the way that you're not.
I don't know who left. Hans left Hans. Can we
just say no, oh we got Anna left? Hans is
still here? Wow? For some reason Anna left the chat
bone is that kind of bone? Is the kind of
store right now where he's like everyone hates me? Yeah
a little bit. First, you're race John Williams and you're

(01:03:08):
rased me, Hans. No, shut up, Han, stop. You think
you think, just because you're one of the hottest men
in America that you can treat us like shit. That's
only half true. Stupid. You know what is reminding me
when I say the words stupid is the next song

(01:03:28):
on the playlist, which is stupid Girls by Pink. Oh
my god, this this song came out of nowhere because
no one thought that stupid Girls would be on any
list where they said like the word iconic, cathartic, those
kinds of things. But stupid Girls by Pink is on

(01:03:50):
the mat and bone in playlists, new standards. It's crazy,
is I can confirm that it is. But you have
gone two turns in a row. I just want to say,
you put in Breathed by Fifth Hill and you put
in stupid Growth. Stop everything and let me just apologize
for taking up too much space, because I think what
happened there is I got too excited and I accidentally
and didn't mean to, but I did steamroll you. And

(01:04:14):
I now there's actually a rule for when this happens.
At this time gets to decide for the only time
unless I do this again, if what I've added to
the list actually is on the list or not. This
this is in the contract. So Chris, take the floor,
take as long as you need to talk this out.

(01:04:34):
It is stupid Girls, cathic, carthartic, iconic. See I want
to ask if it's if it's within the rules too,
maybe redact take out one of your songs that you
put in earlier. Let me just check with the board. Okay.
The board is saying that you can do that, but

(01:04:55):
that it would be let me just get this right,
so shitty of you. They it would be so shitty
of you to do that. But you are allowed to
do that. That's what the board says. The board is
Megan McCain and Abby Huntsman. By the way, Okay, it's
a two person board. So if yeah, they're being they're
really like mad. I don't know. They seem really mad,
and they're every time I look at them, they sort

(01:05:17):
of harshly whisper to each other. I don't know how
they got this job, but they they're here, and they're
in charge. They're in charge of the rules. I think.
I think stupid girls belongs on the list. I will
not delete a prior track, won't. Oh my god. Okay,
benevolent fucking King, Oh my god. The way I want

(01:05:39):
to service my benevolent king right now. Call me a peasant,
because my benevolent King could use me however he saw fit.
At this moment, I would absolutely be brought forcibly to
the castle grounds to be had by my benevolent King
in this moment, I honor him. Now it is now

(01:06:03):
your turn to add a song to the list. This
is one of the most iconic songs of all time.
They're actually this might have a shot at beating out
not ready to make nice in terms of the pure
catharsis of the song, and that is the song Show
Me Love by Robin S by Robin S. Fabulous powerful

(01:06:26):
songs on on the planet. One of the most powerful, fabulous,
cathartic songs on the planet. Now this is the sort
of point when in creating the playlist that it gets
a little controversial because this song sort of in terms
of when it came out, reminds me of another song

(01:06:47):
from my childhood that recently was used as a lip
sing song on Canada's Drag Race. It's called if You
Could Read My Mind. Now, I thought to myself, like
Bowen has to know this song like it goes if

(01:07:11):
you could read my man love? What tell my thoughts?
Woo tell? And this was on the iconic episode of
Canada's Drag Race that we were watching, and Bowen said
he had never heard this song. I've never heard. Readers,
Please reach out if you could read my mind. It's
I guess by um this is weird Ultra nat Amber

(01:07:35):
and Jocelyn Enriquez. I guess it's three singers that got
together and did a little moment. But if you've heard
this song and think it's a famous song, please reach
out and confirmed for me, because Boone had never heard
this song. I don't think it's famous in fact, but
it was famous enough to be a lip sync on
drag Race. Yeah, but they were at that point, they
were scraping the bottom of the barrel with like Canadian songs.

(01:07:56):
Perhaps that's not true. It was It wasn't even true.
It was like the third time, you know what, I'm
unwrapping my lips from around your benevolent king cock right
now and taking myself back back home because I no
longer support the king. No, okay, that was well, if

(01:08:17):
you could re my mind by Ultra Nate Amber and
Joe Jocelyn and Riquez. Okay, amazing. I think we're almost
out of time. When you say how many more songs
do you think we should add? Well, how long has
the podcast been so far? About an hour and eleven minutes,
so I think we can add a few more. The

(01:08:42):
very rude. Sorry, I don't know why. I'm also suddenly
I want to call them judges because of the way
they're looking at me. But very the board is saying
that we can add five or seven more songs, not six.
Why is it not an even number? Megan wants five,
Abby wants seven, And now they're in a very like.

(01:09:03):
Megan was like, okay, fine, let's do six. Then that's
in the middle of five and seven, and Abby said,
I don't want to do six because abbys for has
a thing with even numbers. Megan thinks it's stupid. I'm
going to agree with her, but they're having sort of
a cathartic fight right now, and so I think we
should just do seven because it feels like it's going
to be more of a thing with Abby, who's sort

(01:09:26):
of mad in a more quiet way. And Megan is like,
already angry enough where I think she's gotten it out
of her system. So let's do seven inside with Abby
and just move forward. I you're we're in the same
room as them. Is that what happens? They're they're sitting
there sort of there. This is insane. They're sitting on
the floor in front of the front door. It's really weird.
I don't know, and I asked there criss cross they're

(01:09:48):
criss cross apple sauce. And well they were really mad
when they came in because they were matching tops. They
were they both had an orange sweater on. Abby isn't
sort of like black cigarette pants and Megan is wearing
our hideous skirt like it's purple. It's purple and green
and green with orange. I don't know what the funk.

(01:10:10):
Maybe she doesn't want to wear blue or red. It's
like some sort of statement for for Joe Biden because
she can't just come out and endorse. I. I don't
know what's going on with the clothes, but anyway, they're sorting.
She did endorse Joe Biden them, in fact, her and
now her mother did. And then it's been sort of like,
you know, like I'm having a baby, um, which I
guess means she can set out the entire discourse her

(01:10:31):
stances that she's having a baby, and that is political.
It is it is it honestly is political to have
a child. Yeah, and she is, of course, there's an
open invitation for her to be on the show. She
of course is welcome to come on and join us,
and if she can charm us, we are going to
kill ourselves. Ask her to do it now, she's in
the room. No, no, no, she's not ready. She's shaking

(01:10:54):
her head now. But one day soon we'll have her on.
She's shaking her head, her head, no, And Abbey is
now upset that she hasn't been asked. So now it's
creating a whole other passive aggressive fight between them. I
think this is just another chapter in the story of
getting Megan McCain on this podcast. But I think we
might we might talk to her sooner than we think.
She's saying she'll think about it, okay, But but they're

(01:11:15):
still really upset with each other about the five and
seven of it all. And so so then when number
did we land on? Five? Or seven? Seven? We're gonna
seven because it seems like it's going to be more
of a long term thing for Abby, whereas I think
Megan will be able to get over. It's just a
very much a thing right now. Like she's screaming, and
like Abby is just like sort of breathing hard. Um,
this is so weird. We're all supposed to go to

(01:11:36):
cheesecake factory together. After this during COVID anyway, I'll let
you know, but we should add another song. I think
it's um My turn. Yeah, I think I'm gonna add Oh,
this is a beautiful song. This is just I just
came across this song and I think it's so sweet
and beautiful. Okay, what is it. It's Casey Musgraves. I

(01:11:58):
Miss You, cathartic, cathartic, cathartic song about you know, things
are going well in your life, but you know, you
run into that person and you think about them and
you think, you know, I've got so many things going
for me, but I still miss you, and that's the
that's the thing that might be missing, you know. Yeah.
And actually they said that it was going to be

(01:12:19):
too early before UM to add more Casey Musgraves. But
actually I just said her name again and they both,
as white women often do, started smiling so bright about
Casey Musgraves. And they're now saying to each other. They're
kissing each other's cheeks like as if they're greeting for
the first time, and they're saying, you love Kasey Musgraves. Yeah,
these two white women are really happy, and thankfully they

(01:12:40):
are the board and they're allowing us to add another
Casey song, and that's why I'm adding the song late
to the Party by Casey Musgraves ute song, which is
one of my favorite um Casey Musgraves songs, and it's
a very cute when you um, are you know, sort
of being smitten and you think about that person during it.

(01:13:01):
I'm never laved to the party to such a pretty song,
such a good writer. And so that song is on
the list. It really is, it really is. I have
a song that I think I'm going to add. Okay,
this is the Boss by Diana Ross. I love this song.
This is one of the Bowen is saying, this is

(01:13:22):
one of the new classics, the new classics, the new standards.
What does it mean to you this boss? You know
she was schooled by life and that reminds me of
another song that has that same theme by Beyonce, who
many have called the new Diana Ross. Have many calls
her that, yes, and I think people are calling Camilica

(01:13:42):
Bao the new Beyonce. Wow, that's crazy, I think, and
I think, um, it's crazy for you a white man.
Why you are a white white bitch? No, you are
a white bitch, that's Bowen. It's crazy for you to
sort of usher Beyonce until legend dumb and decide she's
already being replaced by Camilla, who I think has a

(01:14:05):
pretty problematic past. Now Camilla is Camilla has no skeletons
in her closet. She is incredible. Let me ask the board. Okay,
oh my gosh, it's already a huge thing. They both
agree that Camilla is good. But it's a fight, like
it's so weird, like they I think they're they're fighting

(01:14:28):
about whether or not they were both being excited enough
about Camilla. Anyway, it's the whole thing started coming up.
Just texted. First of all, she texted me a bunch
of like alarm emojis, like the red alert. But then
she said, technically, Chloe and Halley are being groomed to
be the next Beyonce. But Camilla Cabello is just a

(01:14:53):
fun what it's that word is just a fun mirror
to Beyonce because she went solo from a girl group. Okay,
the reason he didn't know what the word mirror was
is because Abby Huntsman and all her text spells Mira
m I R r A. It's really it's one of
the funniest things she does, and she actually is funny,
but she calls it Mira. And honestly, if we were

(01:15:15):
getting a title of app, the title of this app
would be Okay, cathartics. Wait, we are being so cathartic
right now. Um, so that's great. So it's on the
list now, you said the boss, which made me think
of work. Um, and I'm not going to sort of
put another Rhanna song on the list, but I A'm
gonna put on the list. Nine to five by Dolly Parton.

(01:15:36):
Oh my god, such a cathartic song, one of the
most cathartic songs from the cathartic film nine to five
of the same name. That's right, Um, you know, I
think the first time anyone's ever preferred to coffee as
ambition really special. Pour masself a cup of ambition? Don that? Yeah? Also,

(01:15:56):
how does this song not have an oscar for Best
Original Song? Like the most cathartic icn' movie song? Does
Dolly Parton have an oscar? She does not? You know,
she was nominated again for I'm Still Traveling, Traveling. Um,

(01:16:18):
I don't know. Okay, here, let's see um ninety eight
eighty one, UM, Fame, Fame one honestly also iconic, though,
was it also nominated? I'm saying nine lost to Fame.
I was, but that's what I wanted to check that
it was. Actually at least it was nominated, So Fame
and Fame was nominated against itself without here on my

(01:16:39):
own as well, so that I love out here on
my own, But nine to five I think I might
like nine to five better than Fame. I'm so sorry
it's held up more. Yeah, I would say. Also, people
are covering nine to five all the time now because
Dolly Parton is still cool. Oh my god? Can I
with the way. I watched at least a dozen Dolly

(01:17:00):
Parton interview videos one day because I was just like
in a weird mood and then I was like, this
will make this will make me feel better? Yeah, you
were in a Dolly There's something. There are not that
many I'm getting really serious. There are not that many
American figures who are like universally beloved, like across age
gaps whatever. I mean. We love Dolly, don't we, We

(01:17:21):
truly do. And one of those other American treasures, Um,
who's going to make her? What are you doing? What
are you gonna write? Well, what what I was going
to say is one of the greatest American treasures and
it's and this is her debut. What I was saying
is Bowen Yang is. That's what I was saying. Let

(01:17:43):
me test on the board. That was what they both agree.
They're not out the debut part, and that would have worked.
You for some reason decided to keep. No, the Lord
agrees that that's what I was saying. And they're literally
nodding their heads so vehemently that both their statement necklaces
are flying around their chins. So please just add the
song and stop with this. This is too much conflict

(01:18:07):
for what is a cathartic episode iconic. I'm adding it's
a So Quiet by b yorke Um, lovely sort of
big band style song, but it's b York. She's screaming
throughout it. York is I think maybe the Dolly Parton
of the world. Dolly Parton is the Dolly Parton of America,
but I think York is the Dolly Parton of the world.
Do do you agree totally? Do you want to add

(01:18:29):
another song? No, it's it's it's your turn now. Who
are you gonna add he didn't fall for the He
didn't fall for the trick. What's the trick? Well, I
was gonna see if you said, yeah, sure, and then
you add another one, and then I said, just kidding, bitch,
it's the rules, and I would take b York. It's
also quiet right off. You know you know that. But wait,

(01:18:49):
the rules are as someone goes adds a song out
of turn, then the person has then the extra song
stays on the playlist, but the other person has the
option of taking song out. That's just what the rule
is the board, what is the rule? They're saying that
if someone puts two songs in a row on the list,
the other person has the opportunity to take that song

(01:19:12):
they just added off. You later amended the rules and
Megan got so excited there was going to be an amendment.
And they both got so excited about amendments because they
love the love the government that they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he can do that. They were just excited to have
their first amendment. Oh my god. Anyway, it's my turn

(01:19:34):
now and I'm adding Tina Turner Private Dancer talking about
this song? What does it mean to you? Oh? This
is an iconic sexy song, and it actually the first
time you hear from Tina. In the song, she is
her going, wow, you give me a mand on the many,

(01:19:59):
it's so good. I'm your proudvate dancer dancer money do
what do you want me to do? I'm your private
dancer dancer for money and a new music. Well do
we gotta get you on rosie dancer? And then she

(01:20:21):
goes all the way up there. Good? That was good?
Stop what cathartic? No, I was making the Tina sound.
Oh sorry, we can we we can add four more. No,
we can add one more until we add we had
we added sex board, how many do they're saying. They're

(01:20:45):
saying we only added four. No, so we have to
do three more. The bore, the bore saying they're putting
on there, They're putting on their leather jackets to leave
hold on over orange sweaters. One or three more? They

(01:21:06):
said they can agree on to two more. Abbey is
literally huffing and puffing. But I'm deciding I don't care. Well,
I this is gonna be my last song anyway, So
this is gonna be um because I'm getting word this
is not from the board. I'm getting it from I'm
being wired into a different thing. But they're telling me

(01:21:26):
that it's not too early to add in wait for it,
Charlie xc X again. I'm gonna add Boys by Charlie
xc X to this poet. Oh my god, that song
is on the list. And also, you know who's literally
so shook right now is Hailey Steinfeld, whose placement as
Queen of Pop is truly threatened and Champion of the

(01:21:47):
list is truly threatened by this sort of cathartic last
minute movement of Bowen Yang to add more Charlie x
X to the list. They are now tied for Queen
of Pop. They're now tied four Champion of the list
and tied for getting inducted into the Hall of Fame.
So is there's so much suspense leading up to this

(01:22:07):
last song. I feel like you have some choices ahead
of you, don't you know. Let's just say I have
a lot of really big choices ahead of me, because
I could choose to add to the list Hailey Steinfeld
song and some amount her place as the Queen of Pop.
I could choose to add another Rihanna. Wait. Rihanna is

(01:22:31):
tied with Charlie and Hayley. We've forgotten about Rihanna. Know
that I'm getting there. I'm saying we have Rihanna and
we also have Charlie x X. So I guess this
is the definitive a moment where we find out here
live on this podcast, Last Culture Este. This is insane.

(01:22:52):
Who is the queen of pop? Is it Hailey Steinfeldt,
Rihanna or Charlie xc X. Oh my god? And at
this time is this is I am so nervous right now,
at this time I can reveal that the final song

(01:23:14):
on the list is Oh, oh my god, I'm so
scared straight up by Paula Abdul. Oh god, God, this
is crazy. Wait, straight on my is the final song
on the list. That means we do not have we
have a three way tie of queen of Pop. I'm

(01:23:37):
checking with the board just to make sure this is true.
But wait, okay, it is true. Oh my gosh, because
there was no definitive queen of pop. None of them
are the queen of pop? Damn it. Will we ever
find out? We may never find out. We might have
to do an episode which is sort of just trying
to find out who the Queen of Pop is because

(01:23:57):
we thought it was going to be one of Charlie
xc X, Rihanna R Hallie Steinfeld. But now with Paula
Abdul sort of coming onto the list at the last second,
we have to throw everything out. We have to do
a whole other episode to discover who's the Queen of Pop.
I think we're I think it might be an adventure
with many characters, many winding turns in the story. I
think it's going to be a story. But wow, what

(01:24:19):
a moment that we created a two hour, thirty seven minute,
forty song playlist that is truly eclectic. I think it's
very I think very cathartic. The only men on this
playlist are let me, I'll list them all, John Williams,
Adam pascal Um, Prince Ray Parker, Jr. Hugh and Lewis

(01:24:43):
and the News and perhaps Ultra Nate. No, that's that's you.
I'm so sorry, But that's not because Bone Yang didn't
want to add blurred lines by Robin Thicke, and I
actually own up to that really laps in, that laps
in judgment. And I feel like we have arrived, We've

(01:25:06):
perfected the playlist because of that sort of corrective awareness
in ourselves. You. The one thing I always say about you,
Bowen Yang, is You've always been susceptible to party boat culture.
And I think that because blurred Lines is an iconic
party boat song. That's where you slipped up. Even I've
never I've never once been on a party boat. Oh

(01:25:28):
except for like um circle line cruises, but I've not been.
I've never been on a yacht. I've never been on
you know, a pontoon or or anything. So I I
am susceptible to party boat culture, but I have not
actually been on that many party boats. Well, so many
times people are more susceptible to the culture they aspire to,
you know what I mean. So so that's sort of

(01:25:50):
like for me, I am always wearing um skis all
the time, and I've never won skied, but I do
aspire to ski culture. I'd like to one day be
in a sort of ski chalet, you know what I mean,
you know what I'm saying. So that's why I wear
skis um sort of wherever I go. So that's that's
the culture. It's incredible that we've collaborated on this list.

(01:26:13):
In glancing at the list, how do you feel. I
feel that it is a perfect list. These are I'm
looking at every single one of these tracks. They are
all the new standards, and we will all pass these
songs down to the next generation. These are the new standards.
These are the new standards, and that you will all everyone.
This is my challenge to the readers that we are
all off book on these songs. Just gonna say and

(01:26:37):
then at each point, at which point we will introduce
a new series of standards. On November. Let's just say
our first episode of November two, we're going to be
making a new playlist um in two years. So you
guys have told them to sort of get off book
on this one before we can even attempt another one.

(01:26:59):
They thank you so much for listening to this. Please
familiarize yourself with these songs if you haven't already. And
any closing. I don't think we're gonna do I don't
think Sony this weeak no, Actually there's no. I don't
let me check with the board. Okay. They said that
they can't talk about it right now. They're upset with
each other again because Megan is upset with Abby because

(01:27:22):
she didn't make a reservation at and they're they're really
busy right now with the growth during COVID, So okay,
never mind. There they said they want to leave. That's
that's actually okay, so they're leaving anyway. Um, that was
the door closing. But anyway, Wow, they said, they did say,

(01:27:43):
they did say. Their energy says we shouldn't do it.
I don't think. So Okay, that's good because I actually
agree with them for once. So we thank you so
much reader for listening. Thank you Abby and Megan for
coming that. We didn't invite you guys, but it was
nice that you showed up and look looked. Okay, they looked.
It's usually customary best to end on a song, but
I don't really do you think it's appropriate to end

(01:28:05):
on a song on this episode? I think it is appropriate,
and I think that um, you and I are actually
going to um simultaneously start singing one song from the
list that we think is the most iconic song cathartic.
I should say, pick look at it right now, pick

(01:28:25):
the one you feel is the most iconic, and I'm
going to as well. And on three, we're gonna start
singing that song. Let me look, let me look and
I have got it, Got it three, two, one oh,

(01:28:48):
what do you think? Good? Just nice? And the Challenges
issue to our readers mash up, I'm on a roll.
Was not ready to make nice Ready go

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