"Media Is Having a Moment" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look, may oh, I see you my own look over
there is that culture. Yes, lost culture loves culturists calling
to the Mother Convention.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
The Mother Convention, Megan trainers on Kelly Clerks and officially
the Mother Convention has begun. Wait, we can't start the
next calling Megan Trainer mother. We were the first to
call Megan. No, we were, you were, not me. Don't
drag me into this.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
You're You're already done, been dragged, and that's what you
need more than ever, dragging you, dragging you want to
be dragged today.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Not by you.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
No, I just think the public should drag.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
No. I don't want you inviting this because then I'm
gonna have to hear about it later.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, what are you talking? No, I really do think
you want the public to drag you. I want someone
to put me in my place in a way that
is like helpful, And I guess you are the only person. Honey.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
A therapist, Honey, my therapist. I see your therapist.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I pay my therapist to validate me at every turn.
And I go that article that's like, is there be
making us more selfish?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know, for the very first time, a few weeks ago,
my therapist said to me that maybe my behavior was
a little indulgent, and I was like, honestly, thank you
for saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Even that's a little too nice of a frame. I
think it was just for anybody, Like was he trying
to say, she excuse me? Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
First of all, check yourself, I wreck you. It's really
culture number ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Check yourself before I wreck you. And I'm only get
dragged I can do that. My gender bias is only
because my therapist is male.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Your gender bias is showing like a penis and a
g rated film. Get it out of here, Get it
out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Your gender bias is showing like your FYP is showing
on your TikTok. Not for other people, mother, don't show
it to others.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
No, she told me that my behavior because in the
hashtag wake up my breakup, I was doing things that
like were sort of like self carry And then at
one point she said, is this crossing over into a
little indulgent? But I did go see a psychic, yes,
which I've not necessarily been honest about on the podcast
until now. But I did go see a psychic at
a time when I was doing not well, and I

(02:10):
saw more than one. And then my therapist, I think
from a place of concern because she told me that
she's seen a lot of people give a lot of
money to psychics when they feel desperate because they're so
good at what they do. And she said, not only
should you not be giving this person money, but is
this behave You're a little indulgent. And I was like, interesting,
now that I feel sufficiently dragged, I'm going to stop

(02:32):
doing this that financial and personal reasons, And yeah, I
think that at that point, I was like, I'm going
to stop seeing this particular psychic.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
And you went to the same one as me. I
went to the same one as you, and we had
vastly different experiences.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yes, I basically, and I don't know if this will
shock the readers, but was immediately susceptible to everything this
psychic was saying. And Boem was more like, I don't
know about Queen.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, I don't know about Queen, but she honestly, like
I think, she sat me down and was like this
is what literally happened. She sits down with Matt for
forty five minutes. Patrick Rodgers and I are standing outside.
It's kind of like, okay, well, first she do you
want them in the room? And I was like, yeah,
they can be here, and she went to the other
side of the room.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, but you could hear everything. Sure, No, you could
hear everything.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
We weren't really making sound though, we weren't making noise.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
No, but this is so funny. Well, we go to
the psychic because we're kind of just having like a
girl's day. Yeah, and so then you guys are sitting
there and this psychic goes making a peep. No, you
were fine, but it was funny because the psychic goes,
I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm not going
to tell you what you want to hear. I'm like okay, yeah,
And she's like, are you sure you want them there?
And I was like, yes, they can be here.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
And she goes, your home is in La. No, she
doesn't even ask you. LA doesn't even come to her.
I think you volunteer that information. You're like, yeah, I'm
visiting from LA. And she goes, LA's your home. LA
is your home? Ling are gonna happen for you?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I look over at my two biggest champions for moving
back to New York, which are Bowen Yang and Patrick Rodgers,
and they both have these sour pusses on. I'm like,
we hate her, and we're like, she goes, she goes.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
You do need to leave that. I'm picking up your energy.
You guys have to leave. This was the dead of February,
I want to say, freezing cold in New York. We
were like, okay, I guess. And so then Patrick and
I were staying outside for forty five minutes. We were like, Wow,
I guess Matt is really connecting with this with this person.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, lo and behold it will shock no one to hear.
I'm in there crying because this girl was absolutely nailing
it and slaying it. She's killing it. She's saying things
that no one else could know. It was my Tyler
Henry Hollywood medium moment.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
She okay, is this fair of me to say that
she was slaying and killing within a margin of believability.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
She was doing that thing where she was saying initials
of names of people and saying what their connection to
me relevantly was. And then she was going in and
saying like emotional things that only I had thought or
only I had heard. And then I was like, oh
my god. And then of course she goes to you

(05:04):
need to come back for life coaching because you we
need to work together. Yeah, she goes, we need to
work together. You need cleansing. You need it really bad.
She points to me and she said, your love life
is a mess. And she's like, everything else is good,
but with love you need cleansing. And when someone looks
you dead in the eyes and says you need cleansing
and it's an emergency, terrifying. That is also how they

(05:26):
get your money to scare you. It's very only I
can help, only I can, which is a dangerous sentence.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Readers. Can we just level set? It is just past
nine in the morning. We got up at eight in
the morning. We're in Orlando, Florida.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, I'm looking at the Magic Kingdom right now as
we say all this, looking at it.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
We spent a gorgeous day in the parks. Yeah, and
that's where we're coming from. We're just we're sort of
broken down at Disney, broken down, but we're getting back up.
We're going to crust another hill today. It's just going
to be our pleasure centers are going to explode by
the end of this.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
But I think that yesterday we sort of went hard
and did so many of the major rides and attractions
we'll get into. And that's why I think today we're
able to drop in and be so raw.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's so true. Okay. So basically you had that amazing
experience with her. I walk in opposite, I sit down
with her, and she goes, yeah, you're fine. Yeah, everything's good. Ah,
your third eye, your indigo chakra is a little your
third eye is a little clouded. You can pay me

(06:28):
this crazy amount of money to get it closed. And
I was like, okay, why not. Yeah, here's my card,
text me tomorrow at three pm. It'll take me twenty
four and I was like okay. And then the next
day I call her at three she'd just gotten off
the phone with you. Yes she did, and she was like,
it took me a long time. It took me a

(06:49):
long time to clear it. But it's cleared. And I said,
thank you so much. She said you should be able
to feel something in the next twenty four hours. I
was like, okay, sure, and then she's like, you can
keep working with me if you want. Yeah, And I
was like I think I'm okay. She was That's where
she was a business. She had her grift and no problem.
That's and I'd feel about even calling it that, but
I know, I think that's probably true. I think someone

(07:09):
like that is excellent at performing in a way that
makes me jealous. I go, I wish I had that.
I cannot you would. I cannot convince someone of that,
and I cannot like close like that the way she did.
And I'm impressed. I'm impressed. Here's what I say.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
So immediately I go to my real my therapist, my
actualational she, and I said to her, I was like,
I have to tell you, this is embarrassing, but I've
seen this person more than once, like because I'm not
doing well and I'm sort of desperate, and what I
thought was just gonna be a fun thing ended up
being like this thing that I'm now like embarrassed to say.
I'm a little bit like hooked on because it's that

(07:49):
thing of like you're wanting more information and I'm someone
who always wants more information in life, but like that
doesn't necessarily like come easily, and it also is not
helpful for you. So I was in this place of
like desperately grasping at like straws emotionally, So like I
say to my therapist, I'm like, she's got me, I
know it, Like, but I know I have to stop

(08:09):
going to her because it's like not real information. It's
this like OOHI guy like psychic stuff and I want
to know, like and I was like, you can't even
answer this question for me, really, but like is this real?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Do people have this?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
And my therapist said, yes, people do have a heightened sense.
I mean, I believe this to be true. In my
dealings with more than one client, they've described this feeling
of expressing something to a psychic and that what they
say is like uncannily accurate and like really really really stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
That.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Of course this feels cliche now because we've all seen
the TV shows no one could have known, but I
will also say these people are also business people and
their intuition is their skill, and so that's what they
use to manipulate people. Like, yes, what they do is real,
but she said, what you have to remember is a
psychic or a medium can maybe into it what is happening,

(09:06):
or like make something more clear for you, or like
explain something that might be going on, but they cannot
make things happen. So when they start telling you like, oh,
I need to work on you, or oh I need
to work on this person. That's where what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Is that's how they get you to make something happen
for them, Yes, and give them money. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I mean literally that makes a lot of sense. I
love that way of putting it. Yeah, it's not bogus, no, no,
it's also not entirely above board. Their intuition is the
thing that I consider myself not having the best intuition.

(09:44):
You have great intuition, but I feel like for that person,
let's say, for the person that we saw together, like
she get into it that like I was like skeptical, skeptical,
and that intuition is the thing that like helps their
business sense, which again, like I know sounds were done
in and obvious, but it's like it's interesting how like
one thing it feeds into the other, which it's it's

(10:07):
it's it's an oraborous kind of thing. Yeah, I just
think you. I think that it's true.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You do present more like hmm, yeah, you present moral scorpio,
and I definitely present more pisces. I think I present
it as a very vulnerable and you were presenting as
like now what's this, like why did this just take
forty five minutes with my best friend, right.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
And I never said that. I didn't even push back
in the room when she was like you're fine, I
was like, oh really, And I wasn't even like that
you were like that's news to me. No, no, no,
I was like, I was like really because and I
would say I was also like in a weird place
at that time, and I was like, there are things
that I would love to whatever, but for her to
look you in the eye and say you need cleansing,

(10:48):
that that does not sit right with me. Yeah, because
I look at my friend and I go, he's perfect.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, girl, I definitely needed I needed something at the time,
it just probably wasn't that. And now looking I'm like, well,
it's just funny because like the last session I ever
had with with this person in person, I went three times,
I think okay, and they read the tarot cards and everything,
and they're like, oh, I wish I could say it

(11:14):
was getting better, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
And I was just like, oh no.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And then she was telling me more things and I
was just like, you know what, I'm realizing right now,
I actually have to stop doing this.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I was like, this is no longer said that to her. Yes.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
I was like, I don't think this is good for
me anymore. And she was like, well, you know what,
every time I look at your cards, I know you're
gonna be fine. And she was like, so you don't
have to keep coming to me and you don't have
to give me any more money, because that's interesting. She
actually said that, she was like, every time I look
at your cards, everything is fine. It's when I look
deeper that things are. It's so great other people. And

(11:47):
I was just like all right, well, and then she
started doing the thing where she was asking for like
personal items and stuff like that, and I was like,
you know what, I'm not going to go there.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm not going to do this. And it was like
over at that point.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
But she did say to me at one point she
was like, yeah, like I'm looking at your cards now
and things could go a whole different way. And I
was just like, yeah, but the first time I came
in here, you said I needed to keep working with
you because there was only one path forward. And now
you're saying you're looking at the cards and like, hmm,
actually I could be fine.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
It was just it was just like, oh, it was
that moment where you realize you got got And of
course everyone I talked to about this is like, well,
when you scheduled the appointment, she probably looked you up.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
But we did a walk in. We did a walk in,
yeah exactly, So that part was like spooky yea, yeah,
we did a walk in and it was under someone
else's name. Yeah, no, it was a walk in.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
It was a walk in period, like there was. She
did not know who was coming in. And then Patrick
Rogers's house did not get a reading done because he
was like freaked out by it, I think. And the
second time I came back, this psychic said to me,
I knew your third friend wasn't going to get a reading.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I knew it.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I knew it right, And she was like, what's the
deal with him? And I was like, we're not going there, No,
we're not going there. I was like, I don't want
you to tell me any thing about like it was
not and also none, nothing that she was saying was
like ultimately real.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Right, the things that she did to me, she my
intuition stayed the same. She cleaned up my chakras. I
might have even gotten worse. Yeah, I think I think
I ended up having like a mental breakdown like the
next week, Like, I don't think she was necessarily helpful.
She was like, you're a good girl. I'm like really,
and then no, it was truly hurtling towards rock bottom anyway, damn,

(13:31):
but it was. It was an experience, and it was
I will say, a moment of me going I'm concerned
for my friend and you and you going let me
and I said okay, and I and I and I say,
this is you and I as friends giving each other
the space to figure it out for ourselves.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's really giving Scully and Molder and I do think
that we could do an X Files.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I think that would be a idea for us.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
A charged emotional sexual, charged emotional sexual X Files that's
homosexual like you've never seen.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Homosexual like you've never seen. It should be it should
be reboot X Files homosexual like you've never seen.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
If you guys, if readers, Katie's publicists, finalists out there,
could all sort of make some mock ups for posters
for X Files starring Bowen Yang and Matt Rodgers for
the upcoming for the upcoming X Files homosexual like You've never.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Seen for Hulu because it'll be a Fox show.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
By the way, do you remember when I said there's
constantly X Files reboots and you were like no, and
then they announced a new one they did.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yes, I guess I'm just not X Files is a
huge blind spot for me.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I tried at one point, I did. I tried.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
It's not really my genre, as y' all know, but
I liked the intrigue of it, like I liked the
idea of that central relationship. But I want to believe
I don't believe I was interested in the sexual tension
between them and I. Actually, I'll say it right here now,
and you tell me if you agree. Find David duchovny
as hell.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I think this is widely agreed upon notion. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
And Gilian honey, honey, they had it going on. They
had it going on at all ages. Timeless Beauties, Timeless.
Should we talk a little bit about the way our
vacation has been slaying?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
The way vacation has been slaying is I can't describe it.
It's a genuinely new experience, and it's an experience that
was amplified by substances one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
We sort of just you know, had our little mushroom
game on, and we sort of walked into the parks
and began to slagh. And it's interesting actually because I'm
looking out at the window, which is where we're at
the Disney Contemporary Resort, and I'm looking out at the
window and I'm literally seeing the construction on what was
Splash Mountain. They're turning in into, of course, Princess Tati's

(15:58):
Bayou dip Michael Hartney, that's a Michael Hartney joke. It's
Princess Tiana, Princess Tina by you Adventure, but literally Michael
Hartney in twenty twenty tweeted, but when they announced Splash
Mountain was closing, he said, I can't wait for it
to be called Princess Tatis. You did, and then it
pretty much was basically called Princess Tatis. To just know

(16:20):
that when they do open this ride, it is for
forever henceforth known as Princess Tatis.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Thank you, Michael Hardy.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I think starring in Jennifer Lewis.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I asked her.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I was like, Mama, are you going to be in
the ride? And she was like, and I don't know
what if she knew what the fuck I was talking about.
She was like, oh, yeah, yes, of course, and I
was like, I don't think. I was like, this is
probably recorded eight years ago, knowing the corporation. I mean,
if if she's not involved, it's a huge flop.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I hope Prince Navin is all over that thing.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I hope Prince Levine sort of you know Hoo's pinos Pin.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I always wanted him show in that movie.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
We need more penis and g rated films. Thank you,
legalize it. Legalize it's as you were the culture number
forty nine. We need more penis and g rated films.
Legalize it, not are I don't want to. It's you know,
they still have all these codes about you know, r
rated films there g I think we start from the bottom,
work our way out.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
What's so bad about the male body? Can I ask
that question?

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I can't think of a single thing that's so bad
about the malady that we can't see it in the
Princess and the Frog.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh sure, sometimes there's like balls double so what grow up?
Lick it?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I use my Manscape products and this is not an ad,
but we have done as them before. But here's the thing, Manscape,
I'm gonna come out here right now and say this.
One of the few products on Last Culture is this
that we've been sent and tried and that I then
kept ordering.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Has stayed in your life.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
It stayed in the conversation in my bathroom. Let's just
say that there's some.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Other sponsors that we know I obviously cannot possibly name,
shall remain name with, but have made my life, have
inconvenience to me in huge ways. Oh yeah, and also
other sponsors that are kind of fucked up in terms
of their practices, but we no longer but we no
longer sponsor them, but it's very valid. People are kind

(18:20):
of asking us please stop doing that. We have not
done ounce with them for a.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
While, and I've actually when I had a personal Twitter,
I actually did come out against this sponsor and say
say it. No, no, we can't say it, but like,
let's just say we're careful about what we do sponsorships for.
All right, Here's how the sponsorships works, Because sometimes I
think people are like, why is this happening on Last Culture?
Restas everything that we are saying with our voice, we
were asked, do you want to do an ad for that?

(18:45):
If it's not us If it's like Bethany Frankel doing
an ad for the army, that's something that Bethany Frankel
said she would do, and iheart's putting on Channel wide. Okay,
that's how that works. If it's Bethany Frankel for the
US Army, that is not something that me, Matt Rodger
and you Bowen Yang said we want on Lost Cultureiss.
Bethany Frankel for the US Army is an iHeart thing.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Ultimately, our podcast is its own advertising platform for Bethany
Frankel for the Army. Now we're saying we wanted to
go on.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
So now whenever you hear Bethany Frankel for the US Army,
we should just do an ad for Bethany Franco for
the US Army just because.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
But I just let me let me tell you about
the Army, Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
The Army is one of the most amazing things in
American history, which is obviously the best country they have.
The America created the Apprentice, which I started on. Whatever
I gotta go, I gotta getta.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
So you into endlist.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
You just gotta go to your US US Patriots dot
gov dot gov or also you know it's fake and
there's so many fake, so many fake things on the
internet lately. And I'm telling you right now it's like
you go on TikTok. Everything is fake TikTok and shadow
bad me. I have no idea what's happening in there,
but I gotta go. I just go US Army, dot com,
dot gov or whatever it is, you go Google. Okay,
So if you can find my TikTok after the shadow,
bam me. I'm doing a review on the branches of

(19:56):
the US military.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, I'm reviewing and reviewing Army, Yeah, Air Force, Space Force,
Space Force, Marians, Marines. You know, we all dated, and
we all dated. What will remain nameless? I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
My daughters driving me fucking crazy, and so my husband.
Still it's not over all right, Well, US dot Com
whatever I said, so be all that you can be.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I have to say that part. And now I have
to say, what is this watch top Gun Maverick. Yeah,
Top Gun Meverick, I got you. That was for the.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
She do no.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
But like I know, there have been US Army ads.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Theres been a lot of US Army ads on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Somebody said one time like, why is there an army
ad on law school?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
We do not support the military industrial complex. Okay, I mean,
can we come out and say that.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
We can say that, and iHeart is still gonna be
like tough titty. We're still putting Bethany Frankle for the
US Army. It's not that we don't have respect for
our men in green, which is I believe the color
they were, Yes, yeah, men in uniform. Yeah, let's just
say that, you know, we do our best.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
We try to only give you ads for products that
we what's it, Let's let's be positive. What's what's a
good thing we've used. That's an ad we've done. Oh, Hawthorn,
I love Hawthorne products. I used then the sunscreen.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yep, love Hawthorn.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Remember when McDonald sent us the mcgrib Oh.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
My god, that was a special day. And that was
right in the throes of lockdown. And I really appreciated
McDonald's for doing that. Yeah, that was major.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Gosh.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
There's so many. I mean, obviously Kraft Mac and Cheese.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Oh, Kraft mac and Cheese. I love down in history.
It's really gotten down in history. So anyway, corporations, we
are at the Walt Disney World Resort. Like I said,
we are staring at the Magic Kingdom. Highlights from yesterday.
We literally got to do everything. What was your highlights?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
My highlights was I did multiple lines. I did Ratituy
and I did Tron light cycle run, both of which
I had done in other countries international. This is, you know,
maybe underlining something about globalization that is good and I
don't know, but the fact that they were the same experience. Yes,

(22:03):
drag and drop Dragon, drap well in a way that
was actually comforting. Really anybody that was comforting. So you
feel like I feel like globalization is the way. Globalization
is the way I think. I think every country should
have everything the same.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
We should all get the same. Okay, this actually is
real culture number ninety one. Mobalization is forward. We should
all get the same. The Galaxy cosmic rewind.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
That was artful. That was artful cosmic rewind. I felt
like I was going back to the dawn of time. Well,
I have news for you, queen. You went back there.
I went back there, and we got to write it twice.
Both times we got I ran so far, I ran
so far by fuck of seagulls, Fuck of Seagulls.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
So basically, when you go on this ride, Guardians of
the Galaxy Cosmic Rewinded is an a massive, massive roller
coaster that's indoors and they launch you up, and in
true Guardians fashion, there is like a classic song that
plays during the ride, and we got Iran so.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Far by Flap of Seagulls.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Both times we were told we could get Conga by
Gloria Stefan.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So you want to come bad. I want Conga bad.
Matt wanted Conga. I wanted and because because multiple people
at work were like, I really hope you get this
song Everybody Wants to Rule the World by Tears for Fears.
That's a good one and it's one of my favorite songs.
I would love, love, love for that to be blasting
in my ear as I sit on one of the

(23:34):
craziest coasters I've ever.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
It really was wild, and we're hopefully gonna get to
do it again. And I hope can I tell you why?
I hope what happens and let's get tactile. I hope
that one time it's Conga and one time it's oh.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
My God, everybody wants to Rule the World. Oh my God,
we're crying. Get we're touching. I think this is what
Disney is all about, and it's about making memories with
friends and people.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Oh my god, thank you for saying. I also, yeah,
it was an extremely fun day. What did you think
of your experience on rides the Resistance, that billion dollar project.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
That billion dollar project at this scale. I was just
this and love was obsessed with going inside, outside, inside, outside.
Kind of didn't expect it to be like, this is
the Ratituey ride, but two twenty these trackless vehicles, vehicles,
I kind of I'm digging. I'm like the power of magnets. Yeah,

(24:28):
it's really wild. It's I'm feeling like a juggalo because
I'm going magnets. How do they work?

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Now?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Tell me how it works? Magnet. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
No, we're having a fabulous day. Today is going to
be more of a chill we sort of the world
and drink.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Around the Wild World showcase.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
We're having an absolutely fabulous day. At the top of
the episode, we mentioned the Mother Convention, which was Megan
Trainer was on Kelly Clarkson and then you sort of
had a melt down. But I think we do have
to face the fact that I think we started this.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Mother thing with Megan Trainer. I don't think we did.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think we called Meghan Trainer's mother more than and
before anyone else. And now she has a full song
called mother. And basically what I'm saying is we are
the We are the Chris Olson's who go unseen.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
We are the Chris Olsen's who are not her friends.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, we are the Chris Olsen's who are saying mother, mother, mother,
not on TikTok, sort.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Of beyond TikTok, and there is a world beyond.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
There is a world beyond TikTok and their lurk Matt
and Bowen who've been saying Meghan Trainer mother for a long.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Time on legacy media like podcasts.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Lost cultis is legacy media. And that's for the culture
number seventy eight lost legacy media. But whether we've been
saying it as a joker or not, we have been
saying it.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Lost cult racist is part of big many players. It's
part of iHeartRadio, is part of say that is part
of whyte Storbory. Though I know I've heard Shiv say,
well we've got we've got lost culture.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, I think Shiv is a huge reader. Shit is
a huge or she's a Katie.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Shit was kind of the one pulling the strings in
terms of the deal being struck. Yes to get lost
culture on Waste Star.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
She was like, these two are a path into a
demographic we don't have.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
And listen, we were at Disney when Carlson and Lemon
were out, and that makes us two of the foremost
journalists working right now.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Wait, let's pivot to talk about this. So there's succession
to discuss, and there's also the wild media media having
a moment.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Media is having a moment.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
That's such a title of app Media is having a Moment,
because media had such a moment Monday. We're recording this
Tuesday morning at the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Floors Media writ large.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, and so this is our big media episode, lights
camera action. So yesterday Taker Carlson and Don Lemon out
at Fox News and CNN, respectively. Other things also went down,
but we're focusing on these two because it was just wild.
These like sort of controversial, polarizing, to say the least,

(27:06):
talking heads on different ends of the political spectrum both
got canned and neither of them saw it coming right,
and I think both of them sort of felt like protected,
because why wouldn't they have already been given the boot.
But both kind of messy girls in their own right,
and let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Let's get into it. Because you're not too equate. Can
we just say not too equate? Obviously not to equate,
but for them to go. I never thought this could happen. Yeah,
that means we're not safe, you and I we could
be back to this episode. After iHeart listens to what
we have to say about the sponsors, they go, you're out.
We are gonna be lemoned. Carlsoned out of iHeart, which
is our CNN, which is our Fox News. We thought

(27:46):
we were like, we're good, babe. No, no one's safe.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
You are never safe. And if you're listening to this
right now, I know last time I said Katie, you're
a finalist. Here's what I'm saying to you today, Katie,
You're not safe. You might be on the topic luck,
we're messing around, Katie. But Katie, I'm just saying, wash
your back.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm saying the economy is not doing great. I'm saying
we don't have the job security. We think we do now,
we do not media personalities. They're hunting us. They are
hunting media personalities. Okay, and I'm really fearful and I'm
looking you wide eyed and til lo reata's how scared
I look? You look very scared and scary? Might I add?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Look, they're given everyone a pot. They're given Meghan Phelps
Roper a podcast these days? What to a podcast defending
JK Rowling? Can we just everyone wait? Huh? Everyone please?
So you know this big witch trust of JK rolling
podcast that's like popping off, that's Megan helps Roper, the
ad mean Phelps Roper. And she's coming at it from
the angle of I know what it's like to be
on either side, to like persecute and be persecuted, and

(28:49):
it's like, you know what it's like to be in
a cult for years and brainwashed and now you're only
sort of better because you're just starting the building blocks
of humanity. She is coming at it from an angle
of you need to be able to have reason to
measured conversations with bigots because otherwise they won't listen to you.
And ContraPoints did a second episode about JK Rolling within
like the last year or everyone should watch it. And

(29:10):
the reason she's revisiting this idea is because of the
witch trials of JK Rowling. But basically she's being like, yes,
it's an interesting point to make. It's a very attractive
point to make, to be like, should you actually be
able to like have a conversation with a person that
you disagree with because otherwise, you know, like what hope
do we have? But that is to like make Meghan Phelps,

(29:32):
Roper and jk Rolling the main characters of the story,
which they are not. The main characters are people who
are getting their rights taken away, and no one is
coming after the persecuted mr exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, Like it's like no one is trying to actually
kill jk Rowlling, right, or take her rights away or
take her money away.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Being in a Twitter fight constantly because of the things
you post on a witch trial, it's you're putting yourself
out there and putting your views out there, and when
people like are angry about it or feel hurt by
it or offended by it or feel endangered by it,
they actually are allowed to react as strongly as they want.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
It.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Actually, like really brought me back to like not to
like talk about this too much. But it's like, thank
God for ContraPoints because I'm just like, oh, I needed
to hear this, because for a while I was like,
I guess, like I should try to figure out a
way to like understand the way someone on the other
side thinks. M hmmm, and not to get like even
to tribal in my own like in the way I

(30:29):
describe myself like the other side. Lol. But I'm like,
but it's not about that like that. I'm sorry. They
are NPC correct, they are NPC.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Well.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
The Meghan Phelps roper of it all always did interest
me because she was so she went so hard on
the paint for the Westboro Baptist charge. She was so
unmovable that for her to then like I think, that's
like the weird thing is she was like I guess
de radicalized online. Like I believe she even ended up
getting together with or marrying the person that up like,

(31:00):
which is getting in her DMS and like being like, hey,
if you want to talk about this, you are incorrect
on the way that you feel, which.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is also like a weird little textural thing in it.
It's like, yeah, oh, the person, who do you radicalized
you y'all wanted to really marry, like fuck each other.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, it's also again centering her perspective, which is, yes,
you were able to be deradicalized online, but that's also
not necessarily what happened, because what happened was you did
media appearances on behalf of the Westboro Baptist Church and
then you got an overwhelmingly negative reaction, which had to
affect you initially to the point where then you saw

(31:37):
the DM and were like, let me engage in this.
And you also, I think, love the attention of going
back and forth. It's that annoying thing that some people
are where they're like, you know, contrarians and just want
to fight to fight. That was the energy and that
she had, like me and you on every episode of
this podcast, it's really just noise. It's just fighting fighting,
It's just two people fighting. It's just two gay guys fighting.

(31:58):
And the gay guys have such annoying voices and just
to hear them fight and squawk is so disgusting, and
they just want to hear themselves talk. True, these gay
guys just want to hear themselves talk. If everyone could
leave a five star review and say these gay guys
just want to hear themselves talk on the podcast app.
That would be amazing, amazing, These gay guys just want
to hear themselves talk hard. Leave that at a five

(32:20):
star review. Bomb the ratings bomb the rating with five
stars though, and that's called a bomb, and that's called
a bomb. But she's just again centering her own experience totally,
which is like I'm telling you it can happen. It's like,
yes for you, but that's also not the full picture totally,
and you wanted to fuck the guy, and.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
It's also yeah, well not even does talk about that.
It's like this cannot be applicable to everybody because not
everyone's going to marry the person that do you radicalize?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Right, That's it. And also I'm not saying Megan Phelps
Roper is wretched. I'm saying she was wretched. Now she's
like trying her best, but it's like, this is not
the way for everyone, And like to sympathize with jk Rowling,
who again also does not come from your position because
you were living in a relative state of like isolation.
Jk Rowling has had the entire world at her fingertips

(33:05):
and all the resources at her fingertips to educate herself,
refuses or digs in. It just shows her true like
inherent privilege and evil at this point. So again it's
completely different.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's I don't really use this word too much, but
the fop it's pop and I never say that word.
The takeaway, the headline from this ContraPoints that just came
out is this person is evil. Yeah, it's an evil
person like this is wild. Yeah, And again I don't
really I don't say evil. I don't say evil too much.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Only when when we saw Kylo Red yesterday and the
rise of their existance, Bowen actually screamed the word evil,
and it was I just I'm really excited for Wicked.
I'm gonna say, I'm just really excited for Wicked. If
yesterday Bowen and Yang screaming the word evil was a
glimpse at his performance in Wicked Part one, end two,
you're gonna way to have to wait till Thanksgiving next

(33:58):
year for that one.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Then you are in for a spectacular treat. Alphabet stood
no chance when if Fanny was.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
In the room, I can't believe that you as someone
this is I guess acting right, so bang like I
think really spiritually kind of is Alphaba and like you
have the power of alpha ba and you know that
Alphaba's good. But you, as the actor playing Fanny, you
have to show all that you have to go in
and you have to say things like evil.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
My biggest line, my moment is a tight single on me,
a tight close upon me, and I go al evil
and then that ends. That ends. You're good.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
I get why you booked this.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
You're so good, full of ship.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
You're so good. You know you can't do this.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
I can do whatever I want. I'm good too, I know.
Can I audition?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yes? Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
I have to drop it. And this is a really
hard part for me. It's not a natural fit. That's
why I didn't.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh football evil.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I love that you're influencing me. Oh, we haven't dropped
that yet. Oh the evil process on the call seat that.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Says Fanny looks to camera, says Alphabet. I will say
this is some bts and it's not revealing too much.
There has been moments where I've like, where Cynthia and I,
oh my god, this sounds so annoying, But then she's
your co star in the Yeah, it's not that weird.
She and I have like between takes, like I've been like,
this feels really bad and I'm really sorry my character

(35:36):
has had to be the cruel to her.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Oh oh yeah, yeah, I thought you were talking about
your own Actually so bad you like one fifteenth the
size of the part of the street. Oh god, I'm
not as good as you.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I'm not as good as you. And she's like, it's okay, Darling.
I wish I was nominated for an oscar like you, Tony.
And I was like it was a scene where like
you have to be cruel, cruel, and I'm like, this
feels really bad in like my bones. And she's like,
I know, Donning, it's fine, it's fine, don't worry. I'm
it's terrible buttock set. But she's she can like she's amazing.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, oh my gosh, what it must be like to
have those must be you.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
And like I said, I'm bringing a crossboat a set.
I'm not bringing a gun to set anymore because that
you know, it's it's a little extreme, but I am
bringing a crossboat a set to shoot down the drones
that y'all keep sending into the premises.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Stop sending drones into that artistic environment. Okay, please, there.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Were no drones in OZ. No, you're breaking the spell, dear,
there were no drones.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
And ohs, there was one liar man behind the curtain
who lied to everyone. He said he was really OZ,
he was just a man. And more on that later
next year.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Do we feel we covered the Tucker Carlson and Don
Lemon thing? Yeah? Do we care? So basically, here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Tuger Carlson's awful and finally even Fox News couldn't stand
them anymore and kicked them the fuck out. And it's
just like, I guess ultimately they lost money or whatever.
They couldn't stand that anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
But the dominion lawsuit, it's like, oh, this man law
has lied and lied in line, we're moving away from that.
It's it's both of these networks like being like, oh,
let's change course, let's not be crazy crazy, crazy crazy
h which is for it to be beyond the pale.
For Fox News is like lol yeah, and for CNN
it's like he's chaotic. Don Lemon, Well, Don Lemon is like,

(37:34):
unfortunately he represented this like left leaning voice that was
like super opinionated, and I think now CNN's whole thing
is like, m we don't want either side to be overrepresented,
and so we're just gonna find Now, we're gonna find
personalities who can moderate discussions between both sides, which I
think is kind of like an such an iroll.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, but if you read the article, it's like he
had said like wild things about women, like you know whatever,
like saying like Nikki Haley was quote pastor prime or whatever.
But that was like the tip of the iceberg. It's
like if you really reading the lines, like Don Lemon
got fired for doing gay ship behind the scenes, like.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
For doing like woman hating gage shit like mean gay shit.
That's what That's what we were saying yesterday. It was
mean gay shit because he was like literally sabotaging these
women's careers, allegedly allegedly at CNN and MOUNT and I
were like, that's such mean gay like that it gives
mean gay outdated like data lounge mean gay shit, like
oh like boomer ass mean gay shit, and not to

(38:32):
this is not to like you know, be ageist, but
it's like there is a like I thought it was
a generational kind of gay man who was like, oh
you think that about women, Oh okay, like it's giving that.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, And honestly, it's like it's kind of wild though,
like a few years ago, these people that were on air,
they're completely gone, like Cuomo, he's out now, Don Lemon
and Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Like it's a witch hunt. It's a witch hunt. I'm
telling you.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Media personalities are under attack. Media figures are not safe.
If you want a media figure, Katie listening to this,
turn around and look behind you. Make sure this no
one with a knife. Just stick in your back, Katie.
You're gorgeous back.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
You're gorgeous back. And this is quickly another thing that
Countra Points is talking about, like she like she talks
about like Anita Bryant in the beginning speaking for Damn.
She's like, and it's again, I hate that I'm even
bringing this up, but it is this other it's this
other way of like representing this idea that like cancel
culture is like this thing that like has always existed.
It's like Anita Bryant was being variantly homophobic. Everyone was like,

(39:34):
your career is over, babe. Yeah, Like everyone like and
especially Game and obviously around the country were like, boycott
the fucking Orange juice. Yeah, we're not watching your stupid
little movies anymore. Like you're done in this business. And
it's like burn a woman for like being a witch
back whatever this is and like connecting different dots. But
it's like, yeah, this is a human condition, is that

(39:55):
we like kill each other. That's it.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Like that was really powerful when you said that this
is the human edition that we kill each other. That's
real Coachure number fifty. This is the human edition that
we kill each other. You're correct though in that like this,
people have always been if they've done something incorrect, they've
always had consequences for it. It's just that now there's
so many people that we know about, and there's the

(40:19):
information spread is so immediate and so wide, and like
you know, it's so easy to find out about these
things that we just hear it so much that we're
saturated with this idea that people being fucked up because
there's a lot of fun that people in the world
get fired or tossed or you know, forgotten about or
deleted from the Internet. How do you feel about the
loss of the bluehack? So we have pour one out

(40:40):
for the blue chack.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Growing out for the blue checks everybody. We have our
ice coffee.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
We have ice coffee. I'm not going to pour them
out on the resort.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
But but no, but and it's just you know, in spirit,
we're pouring one out for the war.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Hope everyone feels good out there, and say fun the internet.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Say be careful, it's tough. It's a lot of news
outlets are ditching Twitter, which you know, for an election
before a general election is tough, a tough one. I
think the future is looking like it might be a
rocky road. It might be a rocky road. And this
is a really political and Desanti's country of all places.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
I can't even speak about the demon raw death Santa Death.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Santa is traveling the world right now for no good reason.
He's on the campaign Governor's doing international trips just to pivot, thinks, So, honey.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Pivot some more happy news. You mentioned you listen to
a couple of songs from Miss Clarkson. She's released some singles.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
And can I point out something? Yeah, In the song me,
she literally sings an Adora Delano rusical melody and line
what is it well door goes when you love me?
What does Kelly singing that? Where got me? But I
think she she goes when.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
She does a whole fucking run, she's she's giving the vocals,
and you notice her gospel vocals on it, like very
must say like that, like that big vibrato gospel influence
vocals before the choir even comes that we're talking about
me now, which is.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
The I don't need somebody me?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
That is she's giving vocals for sure on both tracks,
but that I just noticed that she's kind of like
leaning into her her gospel vocal influence. And on Mine
that's more of just like a what'd you call that mine?
I don't take an alternative pop song. It's like it
changes tempos at the bridge, which was really yeah, I

(42:35):
love that. I think my favorite out of the two
is mine. I just think it's really obviously her voice.
And you know what I love about the Kelly Clarkson
songs that have just been released. Her vocals are in
front of the production in a way that you do
not hear like it doesn't sound like and I'm not
dragging anyone, but it doesn't sound like eight different voices
all being heard underwater like a lot of the pop

(42:57):
girls now is just like we're into the vocal layering
and production like being a major, Like you know, it's
like a landscape or is this is like the vocal Yeah,
and then very spare instrumentation behind it, like there's a
drum kit, which I love, like you know, there's a
bass that like sounds great, but like it's really about
her voice and the lyrics, which is I think the

(43:18):
direction we've wanted.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Even her dialed dialed in that direction from the last
Meaning of Life certainly or piece it was with a
lot of production. Yeah, and Life was like I'm obviously
you're obviously the bigger well.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Meaning of Life was like definitely more a vocal event,
and it was like genre wise, stuff that she wanted
to do more because it was like soul full rock pop,
which is sort of like what she's always wanted to do.
I think, like she said, it was more of a
throwback to what she sang on American Out of the Show,
where she was like, you know, I used to sing
Aretha Franklin like most of the time, and like there
was R and B infused pop rocks that was had soul.

(43:55):
That's kind of what her thing is. And now I
think what we're seeing is I feel like either she's
trusted to or not expected to do the pop thing,
or she's just trusted to.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Do what she wants to do.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
And so now we're getting more vocal driven music from her,
which is good, and it's not like.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
My life would suck now You, which is.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Really wasted on a voice like hers, which has so
much texture and versatility that for her to sing these
like pop songs with you know, only six different notes
in them, which are actually harder to sing live and
not as fun to hear live. And of course we
love the anthems, we love since You've been gone, We
love all the old Kelly bobs, but like.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Her voice is just better than that. Yes, And I
think now an audience, the audience knows this is like
her first batch of original music since like Kelly Yoki
really became a thing. Yeah, And like I think now
people understand her to be like, oh, she's a vote.
She can of course she can sing she want American Nidol,

(44:58):
but like she can sing any any version genre of
song by any artist. So for her to choose this
as her own thing is meaningful and important, and I
think a message is being sent to us, yes, as
a general public, to be like, oh, okay, this is
an interesting direction for her to go, and it really
is interesting. Well we were, we were, by the way,

(45:19):
Happy birthday, Kelly. It was your birthday on the Monday Day.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
People have been saying for years like, oh, why doesn't
she do like an Adele thing? Why doesn't she do
like an Adele thing? And it's like Adele can do
an Adele thing because she started as doing an adel
thing and people want her to do that. Like it's
taken Kelly a long time to be able to do
this because she was still like servicing like the pop machine,
like this is my heartbeat song and it's like songs

(45:42):
that you don't even remember. Whereas like now now that
she's not expected to be on pop radio, I don't
think which is you know, a problem in and of
itself that has to do with agism and all sorts
of bullshit. Like it's sort of nice at least for
fans of hers that actually like to listen to, you know,
her sing and like things that are meaningful to her,
that she's able to do this now and we're gonna

(46:05):
go see.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Her in Vegas, very very excited. That's going to be
the gag do I did get intel. I was gonna say,
do you want to share this intell you? Because the
first thing this morning, Matt and I get up to
go get coffee. Matt gasps, okay, so Gasp says I
have intel from this, So I have.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
I had a plant at the Kelly Clarkson show at
the Blasco Theater early in the week, and she did
the whole album front to back. And I think she's
not doing music videos for the album. I think she's
like entirely doing her own thing for it. What she
wanted to do was she wanted to sing the album
front to back at the Blasco Theater and it was
filmed and I guess it will be released.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
At some point.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
But this is the intel that I got for what
happened this person said, this person will remain nameless, that
they know who they are.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
They're a legend. OMG.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
I think you will love the new album. It was
truly spectacular. She performed the entire thing a lot more
upbeat than I expected. I think my fave was Rock Hudson.
This is a song called right. I'm obsessed that she
says something like piece by piece, I became my own
here and I love when artists are self referential like that.
Another highlight was def Lighthouse.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
It's a good title.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
I would say that this was the most painful lyrically.
I deaf cried during that one. It's one of her
more emotionally charged albums. I would say. Then there's a
song called Red Flag Collector love it. She prefaced it
by saying, Mama was angry. Y'all, yep, skip this part.
She had to restart twice because she got so emotional.
It was another heartbreaker for sure about wanting to skip
the hard part after a breakup. Title track she said

(47:29):
was her Jeff Buckley moment. That means, so I think,
I think it's more like acoustic. Oh I see, I see,
I yes, magic it's called I also thought it was sweet.
She prefaced that by saying the song was about like
if I died tomorrow, at least I experienced magic. Then
Sheila E features on a song. She came out and

(47:50):
they did a couple songs. Sheila SHELA that's major and
then you know, he's obviously said that her voice sounded amazing.
But the magic part really got me because I remember.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Thinking that we're at Disney, of all places, I know to.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Hear that there was a song called Magic at Disney,
but like the concept of like because I did think
that a couple of times. I was like, oh, well,
you know what, if it's over, at least I got
that moment of like, it's feeling really good. And I
guess that's what the whole concept of chemistry is, right.
It's like, you know, you get to experience what it's
like to be really wrapped up in something and someone,

(48:25):
and it feels like an invincible feeling. And then even
though it's gone, like at least you got to experience it.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, and skipping the hard part, you know, skip this
part feels very hashtag relatable, hashtag relatable, and people are
forgetting hashtag relatable.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
You think that relatability culture is going to come back
in a major way.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I think it's never left.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
I think we're always in it. I think we're always
we always appreciate relatable. Who is the most relatable queen?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Honestly, maybe Kelly, Maybe she is. Maybe it's Kelly and
it's not recency by it, it's just it's Kelly. Chila,
that's very exciting. Sheila legend Let percussion nist the percussion.
We're actually so excited to announce that the percussion nist.
The award goes to Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Congratulations you are a finalist and a winner at the
same time. Did you see that the readers are sort
of discussing that there's a four quadrants Now it's sort
of become the huff of puff hogwarts houses.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Damn it so now it's unfortunately, well we can take
it back.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
People are identifying in one of four ways a katie katie,
a reader, a finalist, or a publicist, and it was
so fascinating. I saw some conversation online about how people
felt they fell into different boxes and it was very equal. Really, yes,
I here's what I think the difference is. A Katie
is that person who listens and they're feeling like very

(49:56):
comfortable and at home in it, and they're saying yes, yes, yes,
back to the podcast when we speak yes. I think
a reader is someone who is diligent and consuming.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
This is huge, This is so major that you're actually
the cliniant. Please.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
And I think a reader is diligent and consuming and
is obtaining information and they are the ones who go
out and they're doing it like to fill out the
cultural self. Yes, the publicist is I think someone who
takes information from this and takes things from this and
they go out and spread gospel.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
That's interesting publicizing. Does it also work the other way
where I feel like I learn so much from publicists.
I'm saying the publicists in the lost cultural systems, where
so many publicists reach out to me and they go,
here's some information for you that I think you might enjoy,
and I go, ah, I would have never known. Thank you. Yes,
And I appreciate them so much equally as the others.

(50:52):
But there's a certain thing that publicists do and that
really I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
That makes them different from a Katie or read exactly.
And finally, a finalist is I think someone who comes
late and actualized to the podcast and they feel as
though this is something they can add to their media
diet that gives them another weapon and they're already completed arsenal.
I think the finalists an elder that that say that

(51:18):
that's just how I feel about it, but maybe you
can interpret it differently.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
No, no, no, I think that's a great clearly you've
thought about this.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Yeah, And well, I mean I was just so enthralled
by the readers sort of going about their sort of identity.
They were finding their identity in an interesting way. And
I loved watching it and I love to see it.
And one thing that's coming back, I love to see it.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I love to see it. Now, we do want to
address something we wanted to get on this sooner. There
seems to be a lot of confusion about the quote
unquote ticketing systems for the Culture Awards this summer Jane seventeenth,
Damn Marsh Park at Lincoln Center. We are so sorry
that people ended up waiting hours and hours on a queue.
The Q system is just to apparently view the website. Yeah,

(52:03):
that was it.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
I mean, so basically what you need to know is
that this is a free event and you just have
to show up at it.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
You just have to show up at it. There is
on Monday, June twelfth, the opportunity to claim tickets on
the website. So that is something that if you go
back to the Lincoln Center Summer for the City website
and go to the event listing, that is maybe an
opportunity to claim tickets. But we have on good authority
that most people who came and waited stand by last

(52:30):
year got in. Yeah, so come a little bit early
if you want. A lot of people described positive experiences
meeting other readers, publicists, finalists, and that was, you know,
such a fun night. So, oh my god, if you
can make it, we would love to have you there.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
An announcement's coming soon about nominees and presenter special guests.
But sorry that it's a little bit more confusing than
it needs to be. But that's only because it's actually
way easier than it needs to be ultimately, which is
really you just show up to show or on June twelfth,
you can procure some sort of ticket.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yes, and I don't think so, honey. People going, oh,
boy Genius is not I mean you paid money for that,
and you might see him again. Yeah, you won't see
us again.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Ever. All I'm saying is I see boy Genius pop
up all the time. Okay, boy Genius is going to
keep performing. Last Coulture is just may never perform again.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
We may never perform media again. Personalities are under attack,
including us. Are we in a feud with boy Genius?
Now we'll lose, We'll lose.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
We can't be the biggest MOONA stands in the world
and then also be in a feud with boor Genius.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Did I get into like that? I went to Puticella
and everything. Did I get into that?

Speaker 2 (53:41):
But you get into it more.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Well, I'm just saying, like one of the great moments
was watching Muna just absolutely destroy and then boy Genius.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
All came out.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Well, Phoebe came out obviously first during Soilk Chiffon, which
yesterday Bowen Yang was in his poncho and I said.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Oh my god, Silk Chiffon, I didn't hear that. Oh
that's how.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
You were, but you were in your poncho. And I said, oh,
maybe it was Dave and I said.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Shot it fun.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
And it was just a little joke we were doing
about how our ponchos and it doesn't know what we're
made of. Soa fun But anyway, Peepe came out, and
then all the boy Joeys came out and it was
just like watching the six of them altogether. It was power,
so fun, It was powerful, powerful, croud of everyone, so
so overjoyed, seriously so overjoyed.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I said, powerful, letting energy, powerful, Bye.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Queer energy, say it, say you the word queer queer
is here. We just said, a roller coach number ninety
eight queer is here. Should we move on to I
don't think so, honey, did you want to have Do
you want to say anything about succession?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I need to catch up. I do want to say,
Oh my gosh, everyone better start watching Missus Davis on.
Oh yeah, I get.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Into it because now you've seen it too. I've only
seen the first episodes because I went to the premiere.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I'm on, I'm an episode three. I still have to
finish up. This week's the premiere batch of episodes. This
is right up my ouse. It's so excellent. I knew
you'd like it, these excellent performances across the board. Betty Gilpin,
crown it, crown it.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I said to her, I was like, you know, yet again,
you find a way to make every choice brand new.
She's so just idiosyncratic, but also it's still it is
that thing of like character, like in a way where
it's always interesting and specific and like she has found

(55:33):
yet another project that is interesting and specific and that
she fits into perfectly. And we are lucky to have
a show this cool and fun and different that's led
by this cool and fun and different of a performance
and it's it's kind of has to be seen to
be believed. It's it's it's one of those things I
can't explain super easily. But that's like the Damon lindelof

(55:56):
of it all, which if you were a Damon Lindelov fan,
this is capital F capital y for you. Yeah, and
also you'll be frilled to know I mentioned this on
the podcast, that it's the funniest he's been because he
is a funny person.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
He's a funny person. And credit to Tara Hernandez, who
was y co co creator on the show, Yes he
I think he said that, like, I'm not the funny one.
That's her. I'm the weird one. But I feel like
his weirdness and his like grandiosity in terms of his
storytelling is a perfect match for this kind of humor.
That it's like weird, but not like weird in like

(56:28):
the I don't know, and it's not.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Like esoteric weird. It's like quirky weird this time it's like,
you know what I'm saying, But even quirky feels like
kirky is like a slur.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I don't like quirky.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
It's like rule culture number nine, quirky is a slur.
We have to get rid of quirky. And I literally
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I even know, no, no, no, but it's because that
word has been burrowed into words. Psyche's yeah, and it's
like we need to like let it go. I hate quirky.
I hate quirky. No one's quirky. No one is.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Quirky died in like the early two thousands with and
this is not a per jar if I'm not shouting
on this movie, but Quirky died with like five hundred
days of Summer like we did Quirky. We moved on
like you know what I mean, Like and I love
five hundred days of Summer, but I feel like in
that it's like it died with the matic pixure dream girl,
you know what I mean? Like quirky is I just
I hate quirky.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I don't like TWEE.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Can I say?

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I think me and you and Sudy are all on that.
Oh we we were so anti TWEE. I know, I know,
but oh my god, Missus Davis is excellent. Oh my god,
before you move on, I don't think Sophny, we all
need to be listening to flow their EP has been
out for like about a year at this point, but
I think they've done live shows recently and specifically in
New York though, so again, this is a very like

(57:40):
solipsistic like, oh, if it happened to New York, then
it actually happened. But at least in New York. I
feel like and because I've been out this week, I'm
off of work and like I'm like being social again.
Like everyone's like, have you been listening to Flow? And
I'm like yes, and excellent, excellent, tight harmonies, tight girl group, vibes,
Y two k rowback, love it.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Yeah, it really is giving like Destiny's Child back in
the day. Like it's actually, I think, directly inspired by that.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
It's directly inspired by like Destiny's Child three LWTLC, which
is fun WV. It's like that me and Nick Laughlin
were kind of like, oh, it should be called Flo,
but if it is pronounced Flow in that tradition of
like three letters or whatever, and you say each of
them individually, but it's Flow, okay. And it's not even
like their initials or anything. It's just Flow. But I
love it and excellent.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
There's some like very very little mixed vocal quality in
there too. So if you're looking for a girl group,
uh huh, you found it.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
You found it. And it was the Bowen who pointed
you no, no, no, it was it was They've been around.
But I did write them off as like unfortunately, I
did write them off as like algorithm artists. I was like, Okay,
this is this is like that happens all the time.
It happens all the time, and look, we love them.
But I was like, okay, like I'm gonna add this
to my library. I'm gonna let's sit and then I'm
gonna see you know how sometimes you need something to
cook in the library for a little bit before it

(58:57):
like really works its way into like your rotation. Yeah,
and it's really worked its way.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
And there's one song that I really like that's come out,
which is like, it's like pretty a generic pop song.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I don't know if you've heard it.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
It's called Lost the Breakup by Mazy Peters. It's like
Carlie ray Jepson, British. It's just a cute little song
with a very nice little bridge and she's like I
think a couple people have compared the writing to like
Taylor so it's sort of like if Taylor Swift like
being like Taylor Swift meet like a British version of

(59:29):
Carlie ray Jepson. That's kind of what her voice sounds like.
But she's got a cute little song i'll called Lost
the Breakup, and I've been listening to it a lot.
I think it's time for I don't think so, honey,
which is sort of the thing that we uh do

(59:49):
every episode.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
I'd say, bo.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
All right, so now I'm trying. I've just had such
a wonderful few days that and also, by the way,
let me just mention and I can't believe it mention
this because we got directly into the culture.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
But my sister got married.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
This week and Chelsea Rogers is now Chelsea Frasier Chelsea.
And it was such a lovely day and my sister
was the chillest, coolest, most gorgeous bride ever. She looked amazing.
Everyone was so happy. Peter, her husband, was so emotional
throughout the ceremony. And I'm just so happy I got

(01:00:24):
to officiate the wedding. It was the first time I'd
ever done that, and I said in my speech, like
what I was most impressed about by them, and like
what I loved about them so much is the peace
that they give each other. They they just truly live
such a peaceful, like loving, supportive life, and I think

(01:00:45):
that that is something that in a partnership, like is
a value that I think often gets overlooked, is does
the person make you feel calm and make you feel
at peace and make And I've just there's such an
emblem of that for me, and so I I tried
to infuse that in my speech a little bit and
just that they're motivated by time spent together, and I said,

(01:01:06):
you know, I'm just proud of them and happy for
them that they found someone that they can start now
and it's like the beginning of a lifetime of more time.
Like I just think that that's such a great, beautiful thing.
So I just wanted to celebrate my sister, my little sister,
who got married, my one sister, and we had a
beautiful wedding in Saint Pete, Florida, friends and family dancing

(01:01:27):
the night away. And of course you know the DJ
got it crunk when wrong, because you know, like it's
that thing of like at weddings that you go to
for people our age sort of the high school music
comes back when I tell you that, like Ying Ying Twins,
Little John was playing at this wedding and I look
over and I just see like my Aunt Maureen and

(01:01:47):
Aunt Patty, and it's just like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Wow, to the windows to the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
You listen to this music and you're like, this really
was everywhere, and if you were not comfortable with it,
it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
It didn't matter if you hate it. If you had
and I'm sorry to bring this back up. If you
have meceophonia, and the whisper song came.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
On rip Rip, that's actually really co uber eighty eight
if you have mistaphonia, And then whisper song came on rip,
that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And you failed to mention on the pod and you
feel you kind of buried this. What did I lead?
You were like, oh, Chelsea, was the chill spread. I
was like, I believe it. And then you tell me
last night dinner her plumbing went out three days before
the wedding and she had to get well water to
like clean herself, and she did not let that affect
the mood at us. She was like, yeah, yeah, I
mean the water went out, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Yeah, well she I could tell she was stressed, but
she was basically like, yeah, the water went out in
like her apartment complex. Oh my goes out and gets
water from like somewhere, brings it into the bathroom so
she can literally flush a toilet. And then a frog
jumped out of the no of the bucket, like because
the frog had been in the water that she got,

(01:02:55):
and she was literally like it was giving Amelia Badilia.
It was giving act plates spinning that vibe. But and
imagine getting married forty eight hours later. Just imagine she's
probably one of the first people in history who had
a frog fucking frogged about her toilet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
It was on days before they got married. It was
just unreal.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
And Katie's I mean, that is a true testament to
how chill this bride was a Chelsea Fraser. Say it loud,
say it proud. It's so weird that she has a
different last name. You know, I almost didn't assume that
she would take it Chelsea Fraser. I love Chelsea Fraser's great.
I mean, it's kind of an even trade with Chelsea Rodgers.
Chelsea Fraser.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
You kind of make the same mouth sounds like, the
oral posture is the same Fraser Rogers, Well, she married
Brendan Fraser. Oh that's so fun. Yeah, it's so fun.
We love having him in the family. He doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
He doesn't love my take on the whale. But that's
just one of the things family will have to get over. Family,
you know, Like, I'm so happy to have my brother
in law Brendan Fraser around. Now, well, it's I don't
think so many times this is I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
So, honey.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
The sixty second segment where Bowen Yang and met Rogers,
that's us. Actually, if you were confused, we'd take sixty
seconds to rail against something in culture that needs a railing, okay,
sort of like us high fived.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I actually would love that soon love that, Well, you
have some time. How much longer you have time off
depends on if the strike. Yes, there might be a
strike and then bon Yang can get railed all the
do dot day. I love that. I would love to
get railed for labor solidarity.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
By the way, I would like to say in a
real way, you know, we voted yes on that strike offisation.
We are in big, big support of the WGA. We're
actually both members and we will be hitting the streets
to picket post taste, and we hope that everything works
out for the best, but we are ready the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Two point five percent of people who voted knowing the guild,
I go, Okay, yeah, what happened there? I don't know.
I mean, they must have the reasons. Maybe it was
a slip of the finger on the website.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
I think some people are like, some people are like, no,
we can't do that. Yeah, Phil, they have good reasons
for it, which I let's kock get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I mean, maybe those are like literally all of the
studio execs who like happened to be in the guild,
in the guilds and also so are well represented by AMPTP.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
I'll say this. There was one tweet and take out
with a grant of swell. But there was one from
a particular show where apparently a lot of writers on
this one particular very popular comedy show voted no. And
I'll let the readers and the katies and the publishers
in the finals it was cheers. I'll let them all
do their own digging on that. But I thought it
was interesting and I didn't dive deep enough to like

(01:05:23):
really understand what was happening, But it seemed like there's
one comedy show out there that's super popular critically and like,
you know, commercially where more than one person voted no HM.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Anyway, before we move on speaking of writers, I need
to read this piece on Vulture about the Who Jackie
of it all. I didn't realize that Who Jackie was
like such a prolific urban legend at this point in
terms of comedy writing where there's apparently a story of
So this is back in the days of literally asking
who Jackie. So Roseanne back in the day, like peak Roseanne, right,

(01:05:58):
Roseanne Barr would bring and like the writer's room would
be like thirty people she would just bring in, like
random ass people she saw at the club, and like
they'd be hired for like ten episodes and then they'd
be like fall away as soon as they came and
like people would be like, oh wait, that person worked
for us. So the norm McDonald was describing this, this
is like the origin of the legend. There's this one

(01:06:20):
writer who's who gets brought in is like this like
some comic from some club that Roseanne must have seen
doesn't say a peep for two years, two full seasons.
Is in the writer's room doesn't pitch, doesn't really doesn't
say anything right, and this this will sound familiar in
a second. And then one day they're like trying to
come up with like, you know, story ideas for the episodes.

(01:06:42):
And then one day this writer finally like says something
and goes, what about an episode where like John Gimman's
character comes home and he sees Roseanne. He catches Roseanne
watching her big fat ass in the sink, washing her
big And they've literally done like a thirty Rock episode
about this, like hasn't like having we heard like yeah,

(01:07:02):
she's she's washing her ass in the sink, like it
comes from this story. And then they're like, oh, that's
kind of crazy. I don't think we can show that.
Then this writer goes, well, it's not Roseanne. You find
out it's her twin sister. And then they're like, oh, well,
Roseanne already has a sister, you know, you know, we
already have Jackie. And then the writer goes, who, Jackie

(01:07:25):
has been in there for two years. Every character.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Jackie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I love Who. But like I've heard some version of
like it does sound familiar, like it's a very like
it's like a comedy inside joke thing of like comedy writer,
let's say inside joke thing of like oh Jackie, like
you know the man comes home and catches the wife
washing her big fat ass in the thing. Yeah, like
that I think has like really like stayed stayed around
for decades and I'm like that's where it's from. And

(01:07:54):
I don't know. There's like there's this whole like journalistic
like oral history or whatever on Vulture about like because
everyone claims to have been in that room and like
again like there were Jackie who jack there? But there again,
there were like thirty people in that room at least,
and like but like over the years, like this story
has like warped. Were like hundreds and hundreds and hundred
of people have been like I was there when who
Jackie happened? But it's like, no, you weren't. Well is

(01:08:15):
that interesting? I have to say for that writer who
said who did say? Who Jackie? What he needs to
be is fairly paid on residual thank you. I don't
know where.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I don't know where Roseanna is getting played, but that person,
it's beside the why that person needs to be who
jack You? Writer needs to be more fairly paid on residuals.
Did I ever tell you about years ago? I knew
someone who wrote on Joan Cusack sitcom in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
And apparently one day she came into the writer's room
and was like really frazzled and like not happy with
what the writers were doing. And they were like why
and she said, there's just too much conflict. Oh, and
they said huh. She said, yeah, there's too much conflict.
Can I just come in and jump on the bed?
And they're like, Joan, that's not really how like episodic

(01:09:02):
television sitcom comedy works, Like there needs to be conflict
in the episode because that's actually where the comedy comes
from and that's how storytelling works.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
She's like, well, I don't know. I just want to
jump on the bed.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
That's the thing is like, when you build the show
around an actor, sometimes they have actor brain and they
want to come in and jump on their bed. And
my other favorite thing, a good friend of ours was
writing on a show with two actors and she asked
the vibe of another writer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
She's like, what do they like? What do they do?
And the writer says to them, you know, this really
is just an excuse for them to make their noises.
I'll tell you off air listen, an actor's brain can
be so beautiful and so complex, and I will watch
any after interview, actor, round table, whatever. Sometimes an acter
brain is so silly, so small and not not a

(01:09:57):
dig at John Cusack obvious. No, she's just brains. Oh
my god. Have we ever talked about kristin the Christian
shennow with sitcom on NBC? That was Oh gosdy though?
Was she on that? Was joonk music on that?

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
No, she was not on that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
But I'm just saying, like I I miss when we
built a sitcom around one person for like a fun voice.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
They had well, stay tuned, stay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
So I don't think so, honey. I think I'm ready.
I think I have something that I could do. Want
to hit my phones here? Oh great, you appeared a
wild phone appeared, welcome on reference.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Reference Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey.
His time starts now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I don't think so, honey. The difference and quality between
the parts of the Caribbean and Walt Disney World and
the parts of the Caribbean and Disneyland. The Walt Disney
World one is way superior. I feel bad for all
of you California girls. The parts of the Caribbean Disneyland
version takes approximately a half an hour to get through.
Is five thousand boats that you're constantly jamming up, and
the animatronics are not giving what the girls are giving.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
In the parts of the Caribbean Orlando.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Not to lift up any Johnny Depp animatronic, but I'm
just saying it looked like the real doll. Not to
call Johnny Depp the doll and uh, but in many
ways he wasn't walking, talking doll.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
That's what an animatronic is. Okay, that's what a doll is.
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
But I will say the parts of the Caribbean and
Orlando had production value. I couldn't tell where the ceiling
started and the wall started.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
This is huge.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
It also moves a lot faster. And I'm just saying,
we got to get through these things, the Disneyland and parts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Of the Caribbean.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Some people that had got on it five years ago
were still on it. We will never find them. They
are ghosts, just like Johnny and co. I don't think so, honey.
That's a one minute so that's just something I've realized,
like because I've been to Disneyland a bunch since living
in California, and the Pirates of the Caribbean there is
a miserable experience, whereas yesterday I had a wonderful experience
on the Pirate's ride.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
I didn't know apparently one of the only haunted rides.
Oh yeah, we were told. Did you say they're making
a movie about the redheaded pirate or is that someone
we were with. I don't have this insider knowledge.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
So do you remember how a few years ago they
changed Pirates of the Caribbean from very much rape culture
to girl boss culture. The way they did that was
there was a scene where the pirates were auctioning off women.
There was like an iconic scene in project of it
was like an auction of women and had red hair. Yeah,
it was very problematic, and so what they've done they
were selling the red head and after there was uproar

(01:12:10):
about this, obviously justifiably, they changed it to the red
haired woman became a female pirate.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
And she was running the auction. Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
So then apparently there was supposed to be a movie
about her, but it's in development. Hell uh huh, we
know what that likely story, likely story that's coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Matt said, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Yeah, I'm bringing back the phrase likely story when it's
not likely. Okay, so bone Yang, I'm ready to do
your I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
If you're ready to give it, I'm ready to give it.
And it's I'm going to go there. Oh shit, damn it,
I'm what about the hand actually, oh jesus me, no, no, no, never,
you I am famously the hand. No, okay, this is
ban yangs. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
I don't think so, honey. Disney Contemporary Resort for changing
its theme to Incredibles, I don't really get it. I

(01:13:03):
know that the theme is.

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
You know, in seventy one when the park opened, you know,
this was one of the this was one of the
starter resorts. This sort opened with the park amazing at
the time. This was incredibly state of the art, ahead
of its time aesthetically, and look that aesthetic has remained
quite timeless. But I think it's sort of it sort

(01:13:26):
of cheapens the whole thing. If the aesthetic is frozone
and Edna mode on every damn wall and the wallpaper
being Jack Jack and miss is incredible. Alasta Girls. Incredibles
is one of my favorite movies in all of Disney Pixar.
I feel like I.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Cannot really sectomic the colors and the mod theme too much.
It kind of goes with the temporary but not really
and that's a minute. Yeah, to be mod and also
contemporary at the same time is an interesting thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
It kind of makes sense, but it kind of doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Right. They do love their ip here, I mean everything,
I get it. I get it too, but I am
in agreeance with you that it feels odd that everywhere
you look it's incredible and it makes you feel like
Ken Incredibles as an ip with stands an entire hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I suppose yes. I suppose yes, but I listen. I
would have loved it, and this would have been much
harder and probably not it would have not hit with
the kids, with the family staying in this building.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Right, That's the thing too. We have to remember Disney
is for kids. Disney's for kids.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
But I and I but I feel like a tron
thing would have been fun. You literally have the monorail
come in it. It feels very like, oh my God,
like the magic. You want to stay in a West
World hotel. Not necessarily. I'm like, I just think the
theming is a little off the mark here in this
particular building, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Wanted to stay at the Four Seasons, and I said, no.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
No, it's no Matt. And this is what I'm not
biting that. I'm definitely not biting the hand when you're
the hand you did every Matt planned this trip to perfection.
I'm just saying, this is not a Matt note.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
This is a the building because I saw before they
re themed best it was a perfectly, lovely, perfectly sort
of like you know, seventies era hotel. Yeah, and I'm
like something got lost when they and contemporizing is which
is a word. Yeah, they committed to the IP thing
and that's what's contemporary for them. They're doing the IP thing. Sure, sure, sure,

(01:15:25):
we have had not only a wonderful trip so far
that will continue. We're actually we're with Dave Mazzonia right now.
We're being joined by Studie Green. Later in the week
we will go enjoy Universal's parks and experiences in a resort.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
The very excited.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
But we have also had a great episode today.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
We've had a great episode today and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
It's always great to drop in with sister and enjoy
time together in the same space and get a little
tactile when need be. Right now, we're actually wearing our
magic bands, which we've decided are the fashion accessory going forward.
These magic band pluses. Fireworks going off in the fireworks
going on. Oh my god, this is truly the finale
of the episode. There's fireworks going off at the castle.

(01:16:03):
Right when I was gonna say that magic ban pluses
are County. Well, literally that's happened several times. Like we'll
say like magic bands are cunt and then like the
fireworks will start, like et cetera. Like that's happened many times.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Wow, if you say County and and Disney World, there
will be fireworks, gunfire.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Oh sorry, sorry, Okay, this has been lost culture essens
with Matt Rogers and Boon and Yang, and we end
every episode with a song.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Love is an open Wow. We can't even get through.
Are so beef? My life has been a series of
doors in my face. Then suddenly i'ment inting.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
I was thinking the same thing, because like I've been
searching my whole life to find my own place. Maybe
it's the party talking or the Chocolate Fund.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
But with you, But with you, I see your it's
not not I've never known before.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
Love is an open door. Love is an open Love
is an open door.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
With you, with you, with you, with you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Love is an open door.

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