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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Mare, oh see you look over There is that culture? Yes,
lost culture, ding Dong Los culting. We sort of gave
dark vibes today for Spider Worms Spider Woman.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I feel like I should say miss we excited.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Miss moy excited for our guests. It goes all the
way back.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
This is a moment I lost culture story because it's
not every day we get a full blown, for real
fucking icon in the seats. On one hand, honestly, I
mean truly, I mean there was a moment in the
new film Kiss of the Spider Woman, which is great,
and our guest is fantastic in it, and we want
to talk all about it where she sort of looks
over her shoulder and a bold red lip and smiles,
and I was like, I was back like watching Selena God.
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I was just like the the countless times this person
has brought joy continues to in all forms of media
and entertainer in every sense of the word. This has
been always a J low Stand podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And you guys know that I think we gay.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I think I love you Poppy was on the Great
Global Song I think it was on the Great Global
Song Book.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
We ranked the three at the top three hundred claws
of all time. And I love you Poppy's that's right,
that's right, we love I love you Poppy.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Come on, come on now, please everyone, it's time to
welcome into your ears.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Jennifer Lope.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Hello, Hello, I think we.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Lie y'allmy id such an introduction.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Listen, maybe maybe you know? Are you like a frivolous
time every now and then?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I love it? I love it. My whole life is
a frivolous time.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Except I feel like you get you get thrown into
like I'm sorry. These like rigid interviews where they where
the people like don't know what to ask you.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's true and it's a little bit repetitive, and so
this will be fun. I think I was looking forward
to this.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
No, this is gonna be fun because I have a
question for you, which I don't think you get asked
a lot. We have something in common. We were both
high school track athletes. Oh yes, okay, I want to
know your high school.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I started a track when I was in I want
to say fourth grade. That's early. Yeah. So you were
running five or six years fift or sixth grade? Yes, seventh?
I started? Yeah, yeah, yeah? So what were your events?
I was eight hundred yeah, tough, fifteen hundred meter. We
did the same, did you really?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I was a miler and you too? Come on middle discs.
Your time four thirty six mines was four fifty fifty.
I think my best one ever was four forty nine.
So you were for real. I was for real? Yeah, well,
of course you were. Yeah. No, I thought that. There
was times in my life where I thought I would
take the athlete.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I loved tennis. I had like a great, like backhand
that was compared to like, believe it or not, John
Magarro right over the net. It was just like sink
on the I don't know how I did it. It
just was a natural thing. Sink on the other side.
And it was my tennis moment. And then I had
my track moment and I went, you know, I did
it for years and did that and it was in softball.
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So I was like an athlete. I was like a
little tomboy jock. Person.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Name one thing you haven't excelled at.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I sucked at basketball. It's the finesse of it. I
was working like a brute strength, run stamina person. I
feel like, you know what I mean, it's a different
it's a different scale, totally totally. Well, you've mentioned sports
that are very passionate, you know what I mean. I
feel like track is a very passionate. Yeah, the glory
chariot's a fire, let's go. I can hear it in
my theme. Yeah, we used to.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
There was a couple of movies about Steve Prefontaine, I think,
who was a distance front of Billy Crude played in a movie.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
We'd watch it all the time. There's like those movies
are so inspiring. Yes, and I feel like it's to
keep on going factor of it all. Yeah, you can't
stop me. I will do it. But then when when
I had that energy, I was gonna ask this.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It feels like a broad question, but I feel like
it is apropos It's like that passion, Like I feel
like that's that's a through line in your career. I
feel like this movie The Kiss of the Spider Woman
is such a passionate performance. You can feel it in
all the lines that you dance and everything that you do.
And when I was reading about your athletic past, I
was like, there's something about track running and tennis. I
was going to say, as well, it is very passionate. Yeah,
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but have you always been a passionate person even as
a kid.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I think so. I think so. I think that's just
something that you're born with. It's not something you kind
of develop you have a deep well of feeling right.
And I feel like even when I had my first therapist,
she was like, you feel very deeply wow every and
I think it's an artist thing too, you know, it's
like where I'm not. I'm not afraid of those emotions.
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I like the way they feel. It makes me, you know,
feel alive, I guess in a sense. And so I've
always yeah, been that way.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But was there like a precipice of you, like because
you were saying were you had like make the choice?
I mean, did that feel like a commitment where you
were like, I guess I'm going to go down like
this performer past just.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Loved singing and dancing and acting. I just loved it
more well, I loved it more, loved it more than
what was happening with the sports for me, which was great.
I mean I had a wall full of trophies and
medals and my parents would put them up. They were
like the whole wall, you know. Every weekend I was
going to a track and winning and it was fun.
But it didn't like it wasn't my passion. It didn't
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fulfill me. I was good at it. I think it
was a like a kind of a training ground for discipline.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I do here, Yeah, at a certain point, like I
think people that don't have, like you know, because you
did have like a dramatic past, like in terms of
like high school you did musicals and I did Yeah,
so that must have been a schedule.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
By the way, like being a full athlete and doing
the musical. By the time I got into high school,
I was full arts. Yeah, okay, okay, cool. I was
transitioned out by the time I was a freshman, and
I was like, I'm just I'm just a theater girl.
That's what I'm going to do. Yeah, But the athletic
past does prepare you for it actually gives you a
up on everybody because you're a hard worker for the
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discipline of just like I will work from now to then.
It's it's not like, well, you know how wish she
washing artists. Sometimes you kind of like, you know, do
a thing where you like, I'm so tired, I can't
do this right now. That was never in my vocabulary, right,
That was never mean really need to sit down? No, no,
sitting down, Yeah, sitting down? Want another lap? Yep.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
When you hosted SNL when I was there, I feel
like that was the thing. Not that it surprised me,
but I was like, okay, like j Lo's like in
this like it's just a worker, just a work. You
and I were like sitting next to each other, just
like in between like skeatters. I was like, oh yeah,
like she's not going back to her dressing room. She's
just like she's a cure on set, on set.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Once I get on set, I'm on set. Yeah, yep,
I get ready. I may come out fifteen twenty minutes late,
you know whatever, but I do, But I do. But
you come and you're want to stop a lot. We're
gonna make up the time exactly. We're gonna get out early. Yes, early,
because you'll early when you're younger, but when you get older,
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you're like, please get me on. Yeah, yeah, let's go.
My time bad.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, because you guys did not have that much time
to shoot this spider word.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No. No, that was the one thing. Everybody's like, what
was the most challenging thing about this? What was the
hardest thing? It was the time we didn't have. You
guys probably had a ton of time to do the
wicked stuff, like you worked on it for two years,
two movies, right, We just it was so fast, like
what six weeks? It was four weeks of shooting for me. Wow,
and then they shot another four weeks I think the
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prison nothing side of it. And I had, you know,
I started learning my songs the minute that I got
the role, right, I was just like, Okay, I'm going
to learn all these songs. I'm going to be ready.
But we didn't really start rehearsing till a few weeks
before Diego was panicked and so was We were all
panicked in our in a sense, and we just didn't
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have a lot of time. They didn't have a lot
of time to create it, to do it, to do it,
so it was just like crash or talk about being
on the set all the time or being in a
hearsl all the time. It was just very challenging. And
sometimes we have to do like two musical numbers in
a day, right, one for the Hour, intricate and Big seven.
You wanted to shoot them in one dake, no I want.
(09:16):
I don't know if you could say that on podcasts,
say motherfucker around podcast. This might be one of my
first podcasts, so you have to it's.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But we were so excited you were coming.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You have to know like this is And I said
that it brought me all the way back to Selena,
and I feel like, while you're here, we do have
to talk about that and specifically one thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So this movie came out in ninety seven, just to
go all the.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Way back, right, so it would be a couple of
years before you, you know, had your debut pop album,
which was on the six which was one of the
great debut pop albums, and like they really changed pop music,
you know, brought all that like Latin movement in you
Ricky and Rique that.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, yeah, And I was thinking about Selena and there's
a scene where you're in the stadium and it's like
it's a full pack stadium and you turn around and
you have a smile and you hold the screen and
the whole space. But yet you didn't have experience doing
that at the time. And I think now when we
watch the movie, we take for granted, oh, of course
there's Jaylo in a stadium. We know the image of that.
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But at the time, yeah, that was not a thing
that you had been accustomed to do.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Now, the only thing I had was the footage of
Selena and watching her do it, and luckily I had
great footage of her. And when I tell you I
studied this footage, I could tell you every step, every
way her finger moved, her eyebrows and everything. I just
was so focused on trying to get her right for everybody,
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because she had passed away, and I was just that scene.
I know exactly what shot you're talking about, and I
haven't seen the movie in years, but I remember it.
It was the way she took in the audience of
seventy thousand people and selling out the astrodome and just
like a little girl who had dreamt of this and
whose father's dream and there they were, and she was
a first I believe the hando artists to sell out
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the Houston Astronome seventy thousand people. She was twenty three,
you know it was. It was a big, big deal,
and she just stood there and kind of looked around.
I had to kind of put forth the feeling of
everything that moment meant right for her, for her dad,
for her family, for everything right. So it was a
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big moment. But it was definitely the footage that I
had that helped me get there.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
But how much of that was you studying the footage
for accuracy, and how much of that was like you, Jennifer,
like letting your soulfulness, your humanity like kind of like
project onto the screen, onto the camera, likes be there
has to be some of you in them.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You can't help but stand there as yourself, right but
as an actor, and I very much was in the
actor mindset of doing that and not being myself. You
can still get there, you can still have that happen.
You can still feel those feelings and feel the matter.
Because the thirty five thousand people had showed up as
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extras for that scene for her, They didn't know who
the hell I was. So that's what that was, because
they were there and they knew it was the Slener
movies had come down to the Slena movie and they
had you know, they CEGI the rest of this area.
But thirty five thousand people just showed up for her
movie after you know, for her time. Sid is standing
there and I come in on the little horse and
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carriage and how she gave in and I and I
step up to the stage and the lights go off
and when the lights go off, they explode. I mean,
I get gooseyes right now thinking about it, and they
and I had never felt that. But again me, I
would have fallen apart and be like, oh my god,
right if I was Jennifer, But in that moment, she's
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a seasoned performer who has you know, performed on many
many stages, and I just with all of the composure
of the world did exactly what she did in that moment,
which was take the stage as a superstar that she
had become.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Wow, that's the discipline of you, like running an actor.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, you're right right.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's so shocking to me that because of the Spider
Woman is your first musical theater project, Wild Wild, because
I feel like you've expressed that your influences have been
like stray saying or these like MGM twenty three post
Columbia old school movie musicals. Yeah, read the Morena and
you're you know, and like the Bye Vibrty thing would
have been so amazing. Oh my god, ya, But I
feel like this is the perfect thing for you, and
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I what was that wish filment like for you to
like do it in this way, in this heightened way
that felt cinematic and technicolor and all that.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know, it was amazing when I read the script that.
I was blown away. I was like, oh my god,
it's happening, this happened. Yes, I'm getting the opportunity. Yeah,
kind of thing I'm going to do. I'm want to
play the three characters. I'm gonna do it. You didn't
you know? Yes, it was like a pinch me moment
for sure. It was just so exciting, so exciting, And
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you're right, I had, you know, dreamt of doing this
for years. But I'm a big believer and I've had
to be. And if you're going to have a long career,
you have to come to peace with what's yours is
yours and nobody can take it away. But also conversely,
what's not for you is not for you, and you
have to be understand like I really have seen it
when I look at my career because people make me
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talk about it something I'm sitting at home, But when
you talk about it, you go, wow, the thing, the
things that came to me came to me when I
was ready for them, and not a second sooner. And
you have to be at peace with that part of it,
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because you can it's so easy in this physical this
person is doing this, and this person's doing that, and
why don't I have this movie? And why why didn't
I get a chance at that? And a long time ago,
I just, you know, decided, I'm on my own path here,
I'm on my own trajectory, my own journey. I have
a whole different thing than anybody else has, and so
does each person. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay
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with how mine plays out because it has to do
with how and what I need to grow and evolve
as a person and as a human, not just as
an artist, right, And so that part of it I've
been able to kind of really embrace.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yes, I also feel like something about you that I
really love is that you always are thinking about how
you're going to entertain your audience.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh my god, I feel like that them.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, And because when we get so many different kinds
of projects from you and different forms of media, and
I'm just thinking about how it almost calls back to,
like you have to make a choice between.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Being an athlete and then being an artist.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But it feels like with your career you've said, you
know what, I'm not really going to make that choice.
Like because there was that run of like critical success
in terms of film, and then you pivoted to a
pop career, and you would think because really people didn't
do both, but you did both so well and sort
of proved that you could. I mean, I believe first
Woman to have the number one box office movie and
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album at the same time. Like these are big trailblazing
moments that I guess you can't You can't have if
you're not thinking, like I know, this is going to
be a way that entertains people, and I'm gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, you have to. That's the thing. It's like, there's
so much noise, and now it's even worse with social media.
There's so much noise of what people will tell you
can and can't do, or what you should do, or
what you do well, or what you don't do well,
or they need to do this, or they need to
go away, like all this stuff. But the truth is
only really you know what feels right to you. And
when I was acting and like you said, having like
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this critical acclaim in the beginning of my career with
these movies and working with directors like Francis for Coble
and Oliver Stone at least so to burg all these people,
and then I decided I wanted to do a pop
I wanted to do, you know, the Madonna Janet Jackson thing,
which is what also some of my idols growing up.
People were like, are you fucking crazy? And I'm like, no,
I just did the movie Selena, and this is what
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I want to do. Yeah, So it was this. It
was me was that like it was after Selena. It
was right after Selena, and it didn't happen right away,
but that's that's where I started kind of heading. And
it wasn't until Tommy Mottola came across a demo of
mine that I did right after Selena that he was like, Oh,
let's get you in here. This girl's actually can do this,
and that's when it all happened. But the point is,
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it's like you can only you know. I knew that
I could do it. I wanted to do it, and
so I did it, you know, And that was that
And I didn't understand no. And that's the beauty of
being like young and ignorant a little bit is that
you're like, don't know all the things that could go wrong,
and so you kind of just go forth to conquer.
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And I knew I didn't know how I would reconcile
the movie career and the music career. But I knew
I could do both, so why not do both?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Right, Well, it almost feels like because they're with the
pop career, like you already wore a.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Household name, created Google images and all.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But like then the pop career sort of brings you
this mainstream like sort of you know, conversation that you're
in with the audience, and I feel like that leads
to you being in some of the defining romantic comedies
of that time. And for me, I was I was
going to ask about, like the way you have such
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great chemistry with so many different kinds of leading men,
Like I don't think you get much more different than
McConaughey and Ray Fines, I know, but yet you you
as like you are like the thing that I don't
know it's just.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
People. That's the bad quote from here. But no, my
point is I feel like I don't know if it's
because I'm a romantic and I so leave in love
even because of the Spider Woman. For me, is only
about love, is is I'm able to kind of have
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that chemistry with people and with all different kinds of people,
I'm able to kind of see through this and get
to kind of like who the person is on the
inside and really fall in love with that person for
that moment between like you, like they say between you know,
action and cuts.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Right, there's like a new kind of chemistry in this
movie though, where which I'm curious about what you think
about this.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
There's a chemistry.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Between you as the leading woman and the lead role
and like a queer person who projects themselves onto you
And I.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Feel like love, like this is my favorite thing.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Like like like like Molina ton it to you, like
projecting themselves onto you. I was watching, I was like,
I've been doing this with Jala my whole fucking life. Yeah,
I've been like I want to be like where she
you know, literally like I would like, I wonder if
you feel like that is a new thing you haven't
explored in this film, Like that dynamic between like a
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gay man and a woman who is just shiny and bright.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, you know. I of the three characters I play
in Kiss of the Spider Woman, I play ingrid Luna,
who is that character right? She is the actress that
he idolizes and she does a movie called Kiss of
the Spider Woman that he shares with Valentine, his prison cellmate.
And in that movie, he's saying, Ingrid Luna plays these
two parts. She plays Kiss of the Spider Woman and
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she plays Aurora, and he identifies very much with Aurora,
but he identifies with all of them. And she is
the powerhouse performer, Ingrid Luna, right, who you know, like
you said, he looks up to and he wants to
be like. And she's the perfect woman. And in this
movie in particular, she's like this siren and she's amazing
and all of that. And it's funny because I identified most
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now with the Spider Woman, now the Wara, even though
there were parts of me that I feel were very
much like each of those characters. They're very different, but
Ingrid Luna was the one that was most like me, right,
because she's an entertainer, always a vessel for all these
different things. And one of my favorite moments in the
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movie was doing where you are. Oh my god, it's
a show straight. So that's where I say to him, like,
come with me, let's escape together. Let's escape into this song,
Let's escape into this movie, Let's escape into this world.
Forget you're in a prison. Don't be where you Are
be with me. Let's go have fun. And I can't
tell you how many times in my own life I
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have had someone come up to me and say this
song got me through this or this you know movie
made me dream and want to do what I'm doing today,
and today I'm a set decorator or whatever. It is,
like so many different stories, this one helped me get
through my mom. She died when I was twelve, and
you came like my zooto mom out there, you know.
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And the more I kind of keep going, they keep going.
And when they see me fall down and they see
me get back up. But what they don't realize. And
what I love about the movie and I love about
that number where You Are, is that he saves her
too in that she goes you know, she touches his
face at the end of it was very important to me.
I was like, can he put his head on my
shoulder please? Bill? And can I just touch his face there?
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I know that there's a separation of like the movie
and it's not real and all of that in the movie,
but the movie within the movie, I said, but I
really feel like I want to touch And when I
say my sweetest fan, I said, because he does the
same thing for her that she does for him, right,
she immortalizes her. And because I can't tell you that
in the hardest times of my personal life, how my
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own you know, fans and followers get me through. They
get you through, they really do, because you go, I
can't let them down. I can't fall right now. I can't.
I can get through this and I can show them
that I can get through this and it is going
to be okay. Not only it's going to be okay.
And I do this with my kids as well. It's
like I'm going to get through and I said this
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to my kids. We're going to get through this. We're
going to be better, better, better, I'm going to be
stronger and you're going to see that, and you're going
to see that you can do it in your own
life too. But that relationship is such an important relationship
and a real relationship in my life, even though we
don't know each other personally, it's a real relationship.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I was going to ask, because I feel like you've
withstood so many different forms of weird celebrity culture, right,
like tabloidshit, then the paparazzi peak, given like the odds Now,
it's like stand culture and just the internet, social media
beast and social media. It's like I was going to
ask you, like how you maintain that humanity throughout that
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those different eras of celebrity culture. But I feel like
you've answered it, Like it's the fans that get you through.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And it's all the same, right, whether it was the
tabloids or whether it's social media or whatever it is,
or the normal media, any of it, and people can
be harsh and cruel. It was the same thing when
I first started. And you get your first bad review
or you get your first thing, you learn that it
does not define you, that you know who you are.
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And the more I can put my feet on the
ground and go who am I? Who am I? Do?
I know who I am? And it sets you on
a search to really be in touch with yourself all
the time because it's so easy to listen to you
and this is anybody. You don't have to be a
celebrity for people to kind of say things about you,
and you go ahead, you know, and they destroy you.
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They destroy a side of you, you know, They hurt
your ego, they hurt your your mind, They live inside
rent free in your head all of those things, right,
But the truth is if you really know who you
are and you stick to that and you stay close
to that, I have a really try to have a
really strong relationship with God and myself first before I
can have it with anybody else. And this I've learned
over years. Thing I had figured out, you know, when
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I was younger. But when I was younger and I
first started into the business, I used to say to
myself when I put my head down on the pillow
at night, am I proud of who I am? Right?
Am I proud of what I did today? Did I
treat people well? Did I do my best? Was I kind?
You know? And those things are the things that matter
to me. And I can put my head down a
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pillow and say those things, So it doesn't matter what
other people think or think they know or think they're
hear or doesn't. It doesn't really affect me in that way.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Because on the flip side of this, I think it's
my favorite thing about your work is this thing that
you do where it feels like there's this cultural needment
around like what Jlo can do, and it's like every
every few years, it's like Oh, yeah, I forgot that
she was an amazing dancer. I forgot that you or
I forgot that she was so funny. Oh I forgot
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that she Oh my god, she looks good in all
these clothes. Oh my god, I forgot she's a good singer.
It's like there's all these different like it's like you're
re auditioning for Like it's because like they get lost
in this offs of like what people what the chatter is.
But meanwhile, you know that you can do all these things,
and you're just reminding people all the time.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, but I'm it's not even that part of reminding them.
It's I keep doing what I love to do no
matter what. Yeah, I'm in the pursuit of kind of
finding projects and things that excite me and just doing that.
And what I'm learning to do more of now is
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wait and not do all the things that excite metcha
Like it did little. It's hard, but last year when
I had to cancel my tour and I took a
whole year off, I finished Spider Woman last March and
I didn't start another movie till the following this following March,
I did Office Romance, and during that year I was.
(26:52):
I literally just sat in like a rocking chair, you know.
I was with my Yeah, but I was with my kids.
I really wanted them to feel me and I didn't
want to be away from them, and we reconnected in
a way because I've always been a working single mom
for most of their life, and so it was it
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was so nice for them to have me there every
single day for a year, which was so different for
them and for me, but also for me. While they're
at school and while they're doing whatever they're doing, or
they're away at camp or doing their things with their friends,
it's just me by myself, and I got to really
kind of feel good about it's not ever going away.
(27:42):
It's there. You've done it, like you you proved it,
you did it, you did it. And it made me
be like, like, you have nothing approved. You should just
be doing shit you love when you want to do it,
and you don't have to do all the things. But
I was on the all the things program for a
long time. Yes I do. It's like, yeah, I'll do that,
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I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that because
I loved it, and it's just you're filling a hole.
You realize that you're filling a hole in that way.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
It's not even that, it's just that you were again
like raising these kids and now they were like in
their teams.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Jobs and go into college like they're graduating this year.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Whoa, that's wild the twins.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
You're letting that go slowly, Like that's that that part
of your life is fading out, like you're changing different.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It's different, and so then all.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
These other things start to follow away to Yeah, you know,
maybe that's it. It's not feeling avoid necessarily.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I mean back in the day, I feel like it
a little bit was and now and what I'm saying
is like I've learned that I can there can be
times when I'm doing nothing and it's okay, yeah it's important.
It's it's actually gonna make me better. Yeah, it's actually
when I do take on something that really excites me.
Does this really Now I do the thing where it's
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like I drive everybody crazy? Does this really exciting? I mean,
it's gonna take time away from the house, and do
I want to do that?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Now?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm going to pass on that. I'm going to stay
home to pick out pillows online. Totally you know what
I mean, it's crazy. The online shopping is a problem.
The thing about redound therapy. No, but it's just like
I'll be here sitting in the rocking chair thinking about life,
dreaming about things, dreaming about the next thing and what
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it'll be like, and you know that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Well, that's also a big part of the creative process too,
is the silence. I think I believe it was Mikila
Coel who like and when she won her Emmy, she
gave the most beautiful speech. She was like, don't be
afraid of the silence. Go to the silence, because the
silence is what's going to tell you what the next
thing is. And that thing that you hear in the
silence might be scary, but don't.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Be afraid to do. What room was the rocking chair in.
It's outside on my back porch, faces a tree in
the backyard, and it was by a little fireplace, and
I just sit there and look at the sky. What
kind of rocking chair is the vintage it's it's in now.
(30:09):
It's like an outdoor, right, it's vintagey looking, yes, And
I sit there with it's very funny. It's a little
bit granny. I sit there with a blanket on my lap,
I put my feet up, I put like my ipadal
here in case I need to online. Yeah, and I
just and I just sit there and people call or
they don't call. A lot of times I'll listen to
(30:30):
a book or I'll read a book or you know,
and then I'll think about that and I'll take notes
on the book. And yeah, it's just elevating my consciousness.
So it's fantastic. Get a little tea. There's a little
tea moment. I like a pretty tea cup, you know,
just I would imaginable stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Also, like even just the opportunity to be by yourself
period is great because like when you are you, I
would imagine it's a lot of people. It's a lot
of being handled. It's a lot of the time, yeah,
you know, to say nothing of like everyone out there
in the world wanting to weigh it's just like a
lot of physical people touching and moving and handling and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I was just in the bath I stopped to just
go to the bathroom here on the way and hear
somebody comes in while I'm being they're ready for I'm like,
are you serious? I'll be right there. We sent them
in there. I'll be there in two seconds.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
No, but it's it's I I sometimes think about that,
like we obviously do shows and tour in a totally
different way, but it is kind of interesting when like
it's excitement and then the silence.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Oh yeah, like just that like you know, I love
I love that, I love you know. I was on
tour this I loved being on tour this summer and
it was like stadium and then it was like nothing. Yeah,
it was like it's like a bath. Yeah, it's yummy.
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I think it's time to ask Jennifer Lopez the question.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yes, Okay, so Jennifer Lopez, I feel like we're getting
a little hints as we talk. Yeah, but this is
the central question of our podcast, which is what was
the culture that made you say culture was for you,
like defining art or other other things in your life
that I would have to say.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It was my mom showing me West Side Story and
then Barbar streisand and funny Girl, You're in the right
Place two moments for me. Just I could never live
up to what that is. I will always be chasing
that in a way because it was as a little girl.
I was just like, this is what I want to
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do with my life. This is the culture, whatever this
culture is, whatever this world is, that's what I want
to be doing. And I feel like I'm just arriving
there now with Kiss the Spider Woman, and I feel
like my my world now is going to it's like
returning to yourself. Yeah again, right, like back to the
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little girl, the dreams and having that opportunity to do
that and now like incorporating that to everything, Like now
I'm doing setting up my Vegas residency, you know for
New Year's leave and all of that colseum, right Caesar
Caesar at the Coliseum where Adele just was, and I'm
you know, thinking of like doing a totally different type
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of show than I've ever done. Wow, it's going to
be and it's still you know, as entertaining as ever,
but even more so in a different way incorporating these
things that were always my influences since I was a
little girl. So it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That's one of the reasons why I'm so excited that
you ended in this chair for this movie, because I
knew it would connect to this question. And I feel
like when you say Barbara Streis and Funny Girls. Oh
my god, like he shared that when you got when
you came to HOSTESSNL, you had a Barbara Bag.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
The coach bag. Yes it was.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I texted him right after. I was like, oh my god, Jayla.
I commented on djala'strisand Bag and Funny Girl play that.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Movie on a loop. When I was a little I mean,
there was no other movies for me except West Side Story,
A Funny Girl. That's it. It made me want to
do what I did with my life and still inspires
me to reach for that that level of what they
did in those movies.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You should put a boy like that on the set
list for the.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You know it's funny. I'll invite you both to the
show so you can see it and you'll see what
I'm doing. It's very different to New But I'm gonna
do all my hits, all my songs, but it's gonna
be you. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Well, what were you identifying with the West Side Story.
Were you like, I'm Natalie Wood or I'm readA Moreno.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I wanted to be like the gang leaders girlfriends. Yeah,
of course in the dress who was dancing in the
middle of the gym and stealing the show and yeah,
but I just loved her. I loved her so much
and readA Morena was so good and that in a
boy like that. I mean, it's just in America, the
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whole thing.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
America is one of the best. It's still one of
the best musical made.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, and they did an amazing job with the with
the reboot as well.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I agree, Like I thought that number.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
In particular too, I was like so like grand and
it really blew me away.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, from Funny Girl, it would be my man. I
see it, I see it. I've sung it many times.
I love it. There's there's so many songs. It's a
great show itself. Yeah, yeah, I love it. I think
my man, I remember just that last moment and knowing
the story it's just all black and she stands there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(35:41):
I love that one. Hold. I sang that for my
kid's dad's birthday when he turned forty. I threw him
a big birthday party. I had ran a triathlon that day.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Casual All the Things program You Get up All the
Things is title of that.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Because the kids were six months old. He was turning
forty in September, and I decided when the kids, when
I was still burned, I was like, I'm going to
do a triathlon when the kids after I give birth
to get back into shape. Wow ya triathlon, right, But
I was like, I'm giving myself a goal. There was
a show on TV and this kid was like, I'm
going to do a triathlon. I was like, I could
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do it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Try.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I'm like, they're like a preached whale, like twins fifty
pounds my belly. And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking,
I'm going to do a triathlon. And I started looking
to see when a triathlon was and there was one
in Malibu on September whatever. And then it just so
happened that Mark was turning forty years old, and I
was like, well, his birthday's on the same day. We'll
do the party and it will throw him off because
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I'll do the triathlon that morning. That will be the focus.
And then we're going to just go back home and whatever,
and oh so and so's having a dinner and we
have to go to it, but we'll get changed on
the plane and whatever. And we walk in and he's surprised.
He's like, what the hell is having huge surprise and
then I disappear and he's like, where did Jennifer disappear to?
(37:09):
And then I come out and I sing, my man,
just a casual day. That's a fourth sport. Yeah. I
realize now as I say it out loud how crazy
it is, because I talked about that in twenty years.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, I don't know the running, swimming, biking and singing
and belting, the belting belting Barbara, Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, killed for that. Yeah, it was fun. That was
a fun day. So were you? And then we left
to Europe that night. Oh, vacation with the babies here.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You would you please with your time in the triathlon
or do you? I guess you didn't have much to
compare it, touse.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I have stories about the triathlon that are crazy. What
happened during it? Yes? Yeah, well the swim is the
crazy thing. Crazy. You know, you go and you're looking
at the ocean for the first time and you're like,
I'm going to moving to the bowie, but not the
first one, the third one. Yeah, Okay, I'm sure there's
sharks out there. I'm almost positive that there's big fish
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in there.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, which is not going through your mind when you're like,
I'm gonna do a trap the.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Pool at the high school. You're swimming seventy laps and
feeling like you're a wonder woman. No, no, it was crazy,
but I did it. And you're supposed to have you
like your bike set up. You know, your bike set
up so when you come out of the water with
your wet suit, you peel off the wet suit, right,
you go over and you know, you get on your bike,
(38:31):
you put on your sneakers, and then you bike for
eighteen miles or whatever it is, and then you run
four miles after that, so you have to have your
running sneakers on on the whatever. So yeah, have you
ever run a marathon? No? I mean no, that feels
like it would be too hard, right, it's crazy town.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
It's crazy town, and it feels like, now there's this
for me. Well, sure, it's like for anybody. And like now,
I don't know, like Harry Styles running the Berlin Marathon
now is just like making me go like, okay, like
is this a thing that.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I should do? No, not that you should do, but
like is.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
This the thing that like is like a new pr
thing for certain people to do?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
You know what I think I think it's what we
were just talking about. I think this is his version
of like, I'm taking the time to find I'm gonna
run a marathon.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Sometimes you're just like, don't you get like, especially when
people put a lot of things on you, they just
kind of like want to go, what's for me? Yeah?
What am I doing for me? Right?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
And I think that the triathlon for me. I remember
going down when I was bringing it into a room
and I looked and I saw that, you know, I
had like two these my awards weren't there, and there
was an American Music Award and I had just won for
Best Popline Album the year before the kids were born.
And I was like, well, oh good, because I wanted
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them to be proud of me, of their mom. And
I'm like bringing it in and I'm looking and go, Okay,
well that was just this year, so that's good. It
wasn't like I wanted ten years ago or something like that.
And I think the triathlon was part of that. It
was I want to be proud of me. Now. They've
never I've told them the story. They could care what
you know what I mean? Okay, you ran a Travis
but you know, one day maybe they'll think of it
(40:08):
and go, wow, trivel. They're probably getting to six months
after she had me.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah, they're probably getting to the age now you sort
of treat your mom with edge because you don't want
to feel.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Like you No, no, they think you're the dumbest person
in the right exactly like saying, well, they have to individuate.
They have to go they are so dependent on you
those first ten twelve years that once they get into
the preteen eleven, twelve, they start going, I can do
this without you, So they have to make you the
dumbest person in the room. Have to go, I'm smarter
(40:39):
than you. You can do that. And they really do
think they're smarter than you, you know, and that you
don't get it and that you don't understand anything for
a little while. And then they get to a point,
which is I think where we're I'm now with my kids,
where they start appreciating you again because you're still there
through all of the things that they threw it, you know,
(41:01):
in all the ways that they were kind of like eh,
and they still have a little.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Bit of that.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, but they really are proud of you and they
love you. And appreciate you, and it's it's a beautiful thing.
But it's stages, you know, just like life, there's stages.
Do they watch like?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I guess it's like if you had to put something
in front of them that you're like, I want to watch.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I want you to watch this thing that I did.
What is that thing? Nothing?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (41:27):
No? Did you get nervous about it?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah? Yeah, because they're excited. They came in for the
premiere of this Yeah, because we live in LA and
they and I'm doing a movie here and so they
flew in to go to the premiere tomorrow night. Amazing
And it's funny. They saw the CBS this morning that
I did and I talked about, uh, the kids on
that and Max said, they told me. My dad, who
(41:51):
was taking care of them, was like, Max said, I'm
actually looking forward to this one.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Do you think it's because he knows this is a
skill set that you like?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Really, what do you think it is that made him
say that? I think I think it's the singing, the
dancing and the acting. I think they've seen movies of mine.
I think they've seen me. They've seen me on tour
since they were babies. You know, but they they haven't
seen anything quite like this. And I think both my
kids are very, very bright. They were both very intelligent
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and kind of aware as this generation is of the
world and all the things going on. And I think
they realize that this is an important movie. It's the
representation and inclusion and what it stands for. And I
think they get proud of things like that. They're like, Oh,
I like that. I like that mom is doing that.
(42:45):
You know, it matters to them. I know how much
it mattered to see Rita Moreno in a movie playing
the gangster's girlfriend. It made me have the life I
have today, made me realize that I could be a singer, dancer,
actress right like I could do that. He was Puerto Rican.
That mattered to me to see that, And it matters
to them to see these things, you know.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I think the movie is about that. I think Spider
Woman is about fantasy being escape, fantasy being especially in
times of.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Political to get through. It helps you get through.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Fantasy is survival in a time when it's a movie
about just queerness, and.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
It's about two men who couldn't be more different than
each other. One is like this, cis gendered revolutionary political
guy who's at the front of the lines fighting, and
the other one's a trans window dresser who's effeminate and
who is like, you know, couldn't be they couldn't be
(43:47):
on the end of the spectrum, right, And how being
in this situation, they get to really experience each other's
humanity and they fall in love and it becomes something beautiful.
You love somebody you never thought you could love somebody.
You don't understand their political views, you don't understand their gender,
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you don't understand their preferences, you don't understand anything about
where they grew up or anything like that, and it
shows us. It reminds us what manual we wrote in
that novel back in the day. It reminds us that
love and humanity and the soul of a person is
much more important than the shell or their circumstances, or
where they grew up or what they are right like
(44:29):
that who they are inside is really the thing that matters,
and that love can transcend all of that if we
just allow ourselves to be loving. Yeah, And I think
that is the important message of the movie.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
It's the perfect project for you because you get to
fulfill all these things that have always defined to yours
an artist.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
It's a very relevant.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
Film right now, especially for the reasons you said, and
beyond and beyond me and you get to sing cannerin
eb songs. It's like Terrence mcnow, it's like these are
the highest levels of theater and musical theater. It's like
it's the perfect intersection.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
The thing that you said that I said earlier was
is like what was? It came to me when I
was ready for it. And honestly, you mentioned John Candor
and Fred Ebb who people know did Chicago and all
of these great music was the Cabaret and all of
this and Kiss the Spider Woman. And to be able
(45:23):
to sing a song all of those songs because I
have ten musical numbers in the movie. Yeah, ten musical
numbers in the movie. But I also had a brand
new song of theirs called never You, which they had
never put in the musical and we wanted it. They
wanted to. He had saved this song, I guess, and
(45:44):
it was like, let's use this in there for Armando
and for Aurora. And when I heard it, I was
just blown away. Asked like, okay, so, who who's the template?
Like why do I sing it?
Speaker 6 (45:54):
He could?
Speaker 1 (45:55):
They go, no, no, you sing it like you? You
sing it how you would sing it? You're Aurora, You're
ingrid Lona. That's when it kind of hit me and
I was like, oh, okay, yeah, all right. I can't
listen to Cheetah's version. I can't listen to anything, and
all the people who sang it on Broadway. I just
(46:15):
have to. It's me and I get to do that.
And that was such a blessing and such a privilege,
and I'm so happy and feel so blessed to have
been able to do it. And this is a gift.
It's a real gift.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
It's done so well. And also like, you don't get
a better director than that. I mean you must have
been a dream Girls fan too, of course. Yeah, come
on now, Beauty and the Beast, Yes, even gods and monsters.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I ever seen that. I don't think I've seen McKellen
and Brendan Fraser.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Wow, yeah, really good in Chicago and screenplay well obviously.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, well Chicago was Rob Marshall, but Bill Cotton wrote it.
Oh wow, you forget that or I forgot this directed
it director?
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, it's really amazing. I do want to say just
in terms of like speaking to the like you know,
the bravery of this movie and how prescient it is.
There's so many indelible images of you throughout your career,
you know what I mean, Like I mentioned you just
as Selena smiling in front of that stadium, et cetera.
I could list on and on, but I do want
you to know that at the super Bowl when you
(47:21):
put up that Puerto Rican flag, like you just go,
you just you lifted so many people's spirits, like including
my own, and I'm obviously not from Puerto Rico, but
just to see your pride, especially in that moment, and
as you know, conversations happen about you know, bad Bunny
doing the super Bowl coming up, I just like really
(47:45):
want you to know that that will always stay with
me and so many people that were watching it, and
especially you being up there with your daughter, that that
you and Chukira together. I did watch the documentary. I
know there was some strife about like we're going to
share it like I deserve my own, which you do
and so did she.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
But I will say that like boom hit.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Heyyah turn, it made me so happy and I can't
imagine it different.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
But no, that's the great super Bowl halftimes. I think
it's that thing of like what's for you and how
it's for you is how it happens when you're ready
for it. Like I don't think I was ready ten
years before that to do this Super Bowl, And when
it came around, it was meant for her and I
to do together. And I see that now, and there's
moments where you like you, you get like because we
(48:33):
were She's trying to fit her whole discography and I'm
trying to fit mine into like not fifteen minutes, now
seven minutes, and so it was frustrating, it really was.
But at the end of the day, it really was
meant to be in the way that it happened in
such a beautiful way. And you're right that that that
for me being able to make those kind of very
(48:55):
palatable political statements in a way like where people could
receive it no matter who you were, whether you were
Latino or not, or if you were a woman or not.
It did. It was so important for me, and it
was important for me because my kid was there singing
with me, and all those little girls that were on
stage with me that day and representing all the kids
(49:18):
in cages and all of the things, and the woman
on top of the world, on top of the empire
still building, or you know, celebrating the sexuality of being
on a stripper pull over and what then like look man,
no hands in the middle of all of it was
very intentional and one of the best things in my life.
But as I said, and people may have seen this
(49:41):
where I was, I literally just started crying. It just
caught me by surprise, thinking about my child kind of
yelling back at me, I'm going to live my life.
I was just like, I can't, I can't. But it
was just it was it was everything. It was everything
in a moment of life. Every all of my world's
(50:04):
collided in that moment, you know what I mean, from
growing up and being you know, a little Porto Rican
girl in the Bronx to you know, my work as
an artist and my singing and my dancing and being
Latin and having a child and being a mother and
all of it. Just the pride of all of those
(50:25):
things that you can have in one moment and all
of the coming together is just it's kind of like
a lightning bolt.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, you'll always you'll always have that, and we'll always
have it on YouTube because you know, the gays like
we're playing music video. You know about that, right, like
the gay pregames that happened. You know, they go, what
is this? So it's just when gay guys get together
at a pre game before you go out and you
put music videos on or a postgame.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
You know you'll come back and watch all your videos.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, I'm telling you, Aver, we invite you invited.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
We'll come after Caesar's. Yes, we'll do it in Vegas,
in Vegas. That'll be real trouble. Yes, yes, yes, the
answer is yes. It's very fun. You'll love it.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Okay, So we've come to I don't think so honey,
which is our segment in this podcast where we take
sixty seconds, that's one minute. Look it up to rants
against something in coult I have something that is specific
to our guests. Okay, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many as
time starts now.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
I don't think so honey, that you can wear the
color green if you're not this woman, you can't wear
green at the super Bowl when they had that neon
green lights from the waiting for Tonight video and she said,
never forget hustlers on the pool. I said, I stood
up and I said, she owns that color because it's
not just I bet you thought jal green. You thought
about Versace green dress and no, baby, I did the
(51:55):
Waiting for Tonight music video, the color of the second,
the color the six. Hello, it's all coming around.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Hello. I saw her show up to the Wicked. I said,
that's because Alphabu's green. Alphaba, I have news for you.
You get green during this press tour. That's it. That's
send green returns to our guests. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
I have to imagine that our guests can rock every
single color, but there's nothing like the green. Something pops up,
everyone elevates. I feel better about my life. My shoulders
drop when I see that Neon green waiting for Tonight.
A second, let's go Google image, Jennifer Lopez Green, You're
gonna get a ton of good shit.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
And that's what I.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Do.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
That can I say you're not expected to do that?
Mike Drop, he does it.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
You did it.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
By the way, I've always said green is my lucky color.
I don't say it's my favorite color. It's my lucky color.
For whatever reason, I'm always in green when everything goes right.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Can I tell you something. I believe it's not your
favorite color of it.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
I do love it as a favorite color, but I've
always said I'm never saying it's my favorite color. It's
my lucky color.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
What's your favorite right now in this moment today?
Speaker 1 (53:04):
My favorite color today? Today, I would say, are especially
after that you can't come through screen? After that, I
was like, do I have another color?
Speaker 2 (53:17):
There?
Speaker 1 (53:17):
No green? Is it? It's? Yeah? For your eyes green,
they have a little bit of green, and yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
I mean I just like, I'll just the waiting first
of all, waiting for tonight. If you do you have
a favorite j Lo song? Because mine is waiting for something?
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Is it thank you? And get right? Of course I
don't know, I don't know. Okay, it's I mean, there's
it's hard to get right. That's one of my favorite songs. Yes,
but also just the end of it, it gets like
so like wait when the be drops out? Yeah yeah,
yeah yeah, the dance brave, Yes, I started singing and
(53:56):
scream a little bit of it.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
The mark of like this because the second you hear
Waiting for Tonight, like the yeah, and then you're just
like you know where you're at.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Let me ask you a question, because you brought away tonight.
I many times will put in the show the remix
of Waiting for Tonight. Do you miss the original? I
think the original is a classic.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's all I need to It's
not about missing it because the remix is sick, like
any anything you can do.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Because I feel like it's more exciting, like the lasers.
The lasers came from I love.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
You know what I mean, But you can have the
lasers and with the original, I mean, I feel like,
but the original is just it's a classic.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yes, but this is but this is your dilemma, Like
the original is a classic. But that's if you want
to like really bring it, bring it like down and
ground and you know why, people like really lean in
and listen, you say. If you're playing the remix, we're
all jumping and singing along right right. It depends on
what you want.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
What's happening, Yeah, what section of the show it's in there?
Speaker 3 (54:54):
You go, Yeah, I don't think that's helpful. We're not
really giving you like a decision.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
I wanted to know because Benny and I my longtime manager,
godfather to my kids and one of my best friends
and my brother Icon. He we always argue about that.
We argue it because he always wants me to do
the original and I never do the urgent. I always
do the remix live because I just feel like it's
more exciting.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Sure, and He's like, You've probably had every conversation.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I know, but I'm thinking, I don't know in my
in this new era of mine where I'm making the
new show and creating something really new, but maybe I'll
go back to that.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Is there a way to make it very dramatic and
musical theater in the beginning and then it picks in.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah, there's all kinds of things. I've done a lot
of different things waiting for tonight. When I opened the
American Music Awards, I sag waiting for Tonight. I did
it kind of like a legato, very slow this, and
then we went into that big medley. There's a different
There's a lot of different ways to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
I also want to say, in terms of favorite songs
before Bowen does, I don't think so, honey, I would
sing no, my honest, and I would just pretend and
I would just kind of give what I thought.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Ye words, what it is the feeling of it, Like
I can't.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Have you singing gibberish anymore because you know, it was
on all the time in the house.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
I love that album. It's like the K pop thing.
It's like I was making the words up.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
It's like you don't know necessarily what's being communicated, but
it transcends the language.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
No, it's such a beautiful song. I love that song.
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, I'm talking about you know these songs in general
that are in English.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
You know what I mean? Yeah, No, I knew exactly
what was It's like a bad Bunny thing. You don't
need to understand Spanish to be rocking with Bad Bunny
all the time. He's wonderful to look at, but first
of all, he's just a cultural phenomenon, right, Like he's
one of those artists like you say that transcends everything,
that transcends color, race, It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter,
(56:48):
and it doesn't matter. If you like good music, then
you like bad money. You will enjoy the super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yeah, yes, Most Photos is one of the great albums.
Amazing ye have the last time decade, I would say, yeah,
I love I love that. Okay, I'll bring it down. No, no, no,
there's different ways to do it. Okay, I'm gonna I'm
gonna do a different way.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
Okay, do it a different way. This is this is
pop culture. This is just life. This is this is life.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
This is life. This is based on life like much,
this is bowing things. So, honey, his time starts now.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
I don't think so, honey. The humiliating task of making
sure shampoo and conditioner bottles finished at the same time,
that you keep them evenly full, because you.
Speaker 4 (57:28):
Got me acting like Dexter's laboratory in the steam.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
We're acting like a damn mad.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
Scientists trying to make sure these two things finish at
the same time. What is this sexual intercourse. I gotta
make sure there they finished at the same time.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
Is what you're not gonna have me do is buy
some two for one parabens sludge.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
I don't want, no, But this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
Why haven't we figured out as a society put the
conditioner in smaller bottles, or to sell two sizes of
one or the other, depending on what you go through
faster finishing them at the same time is impossible. Meanwhile,
by sitting over there, minding its own business, staying iconic,
I keep my side of the street clean, it says.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
But shampoo and condition this is a toxic relationship. I
will never ever ever be then.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Being in the shower as hell every day for some people,
because guess what, I feel like I'm failing in life
if I can't keep this.
Speaker 1 (58:21):
And that's for a minute.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
You need a three in one, you need a three
shampoo conditioner. I've never understood the problem with three and one.
People are like, no, it's it compromises on so much.
A conditioner is a totally different things.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
You got to moisturize, it's a totally different thing. Shampoo
is a cleaner. Conditioners like moisturizing. Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
This is the sound of a hairdresser, Yes, hadresser. I
don't even know this stuff.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
I know talk about volume. There you go, and I'm
a drift over here. No, Well, thank you for your service.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
I feel like we're not talking about this enough kind clearly.
And also the word parabin being mentioned. The fact that
words like which is the fact that words like that
gist up here, come on that's my bestie.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
That's my bestie. Are you guys bestie?
Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Are you bestI you didn't just get thrown together? No
each other since.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, we've known each other since like eighteen nineteen. Yeah
did you ever date?
Speaker 1 (59:24):
No? No, just I know everyone thinks so just asking,
just trying to get all.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
The we we never really get, like directly asked the question,
but no I did.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
I just asked you. You're allowed to ask journalist j
low And now, by the way, I hate if you
asked me. Don't ask me.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
We're not out well, we're not going to ask. Don't worry,
but we are going to ask you to do. And
I don't think somebody, are you right?
Speaker 1 (59:42):
I don't know what to do?
Speaker 3 (59:44):
You have something will come here. I want you to
do like a legato. I don't think someoney just like this,
keep it in this tone and speed. I just want
you to like ruminate, okay, Jennifer Lopez is I don't
think so. Any times starts now, I don't think so.
When people come to me knowing what my.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Schedule is and how crazy it can be, and not
fill me in on all the details, they leave out
the details. They are trying to be helpful. They're trying
to be respectful, they're trying to be, you know, the
favorite person, but they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
They really make my life stressful and full of anxiety. No,
it's not. It's not fun in that way. I really
much rather know everything ahead of time. Be honest with me.
All I'm saying is be honest with me. I want
you to be honest with me. You don't have to
lie to me. You don't have They lie to celever.
Do that. Tell me the truth. I can take it.
(01:00:36):
I can take it. Just tell me, tell me this
is what's gonna happen. This is what you need to know.
Have me prepped, Have me prepared. I like rehearsal. I
will rehearsed. I want to be prepared. I want to
do it. I have the discipline. You can. You can
be honest with me. Just be honest with me. I
hate when people are not honest, and that's what I think.
(01:00:56):
So yes, and we will never lie to you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Sometimes I do get the sense that when people get
to a certain level, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, they'll kind of like I don't know, if they
get worried or like they don't want to be the
person who delivers the bad news or whatever and it's
like it's okay, or.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
They're holding onto the information and making sure they want
to they package it right and present it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Just tell me, are you someone that I like, straight
straight I love? It's not like I no, So what
do you say, Spit it out? Literally, I'm like, spin
it out. I want you to feel free of this. Yes, yes, yes,
On that note.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
On that note, I think the reason we love you,
when people love you is because you are an excellent communicator.
As we're talking about communication, it's it's I think it's
that's your through line as well. You know how to
connect with an audience. Thank you so much for communicating
with us, Thank you for coming on this.
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Show, and thank you for the years of joy and
entertainment that you have brought. Because you really are I mean,
like they throw around the word icon, but you are
because you you back it up and like just the
amount of times I've like left with a big smile
on my face after seeing you do what you do
is tell us.
Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I appreciate you guys so much. You guys are fantastic.
This has this has been the best part of my
press story.
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Clip it clip it, the clip it and send it
out to the masses and always rooting for you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
We end every episode with the song will you play
a song in front of the guests, even our recording
artist guests.
Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Oh wow, picking if you had the game? I picked
the key to me if I give you me.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
If you want to hear that, listen to the six
do yourself a favor.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Get on the sex and listen to the sex. I
might go out of my way tonight. Ride it authentically.
You guys are amazing. That's culture.
Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
This is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players
in the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and bowen Ye.
Executive produced by Anna Hasnier and produced by Decca.
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Ramos, Edited and mixed by Doug By and our music
is by Henry Berski