"This Is King" (w/ Ego Nwodim)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, it's me and Matt Rogers, one of the
hosts of the show, and I just want to tell
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So get your Quimby on and watch Game Show. Thank
you so much. I appreciate it. Oh god, I really

(00:21):
appreciate it. I need this so bad. You have no
idea I'm not doing well. Look man, oh I see you?
Why why? And look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness,
let's Ding Dong's calling. And I have to say, already
there's a front runner for title and mapp there's a

(00:42):
front runner for a title. App. Well, I know that
there's one key word that's going to be operative already.
This word is floating around in the air, is making
me feel tickled, and it is making me feel absolutely
full of laughs. And that word I can reveal at
this time is king. Well, you know what that word.
It kind of fills me with a melancholy too. Can

(01:02):
I explain why I would like you to go on
and keep keep going speaking, and when you speak, explain
why we're talking about this word king and why it
means something to you, and the listeners should care. The
listeners should care. Here's why the readers, the readers. I
don't know when this really started. We have to get

(01:24):
our guests into this conversation very soon post taste. She
it's what we call each other work and then when
you know, it just stuck. And now truly the I'm
going to say something crazy. The thing I miss most
from the before, from the before is your king is

(01:45):
Mike King, not even just my king. Is the sound
and the acoustics down the hallway at at our place
of work. And it's just hearing her say the words
king and I I miss it so and I can't
wait to hear that word in person from her. From well,
you know that oftentimes people say the expression, um, well

(02:08):
your family is my family? Like, how what's this question? Well,
any any friend of so and so is is a
friend of mine? There it is. I found it. So
I've personally feel and personally believe that if we're going
by that expression, and we are, especially rotal culture number ten,
we are going that expression that this person is guest
this king is also my family and my friend and

(02:30):
my king. Yes, you are her king, she is your king.
I mean I haven't just heard this from you. I've
heard this from studio as well, that there's a new
king in town and oh she is the ones and
future and past king. Oh wow. And I had that
she's the ones present future King, the ones in future King.
So I had known of our guests from her storied

(02:51):
performance career, because this is a U C B L
A vet, this is a JFL that and a JFL
VET even and a CBS City Showcase that. So there's
many avenues that I that I was familiar with this person.
And then this individual of this king came to national
recognition on the program Saturday Night Live, which is a

(03:12):
beloved actually sketch comedy program that airs live from New
York City, and it's sketch comedy and you're on it, yes,
I am, in fact, And it's run for many years,
more than twelve years, more than twelve years, and she
has been on it for two seasons. And I gotta
say like she is a very present person at the office.

(03:35):
I'm just saying that people have already bowed to the
king that's actually good because you know what can happen
when the when the subject don't bow, you get a
storming of the best deal happening. That's exactly why beast
deal happened. Now are you? Are you impressed with me
that I knew about the storming of the best Deal?
I am impressed. I know about it because of a
tweet by Padma Lakshmi, she said, And I am gonna

(03:58):
do an impression of her, and I'm just storm the
best deal my daughters. She wants to be a pop
star when she goes up. I don't I don't know
why these are These impressions are done with love. Now,
she said. She tweeted, let's storm the best Deal, and
I said, I think I remember that from ap European history,
and I looked it up and wouldn't you know it,
it was a uh topical pressiant reference. Because we are

(04:22):
not doing well in this United States of America and
you know in France they once had to storm the
best deal. And so I think that Podma was actually
advocating for a rush of the White House. So you
can take that up with her. I'm not saying that
we go to Washington and and cause violence. I'm saying
that we cook some go to sour doughs at home.

(04:45):
You do you have a better pod my impression than me. Well,
you know this is my pot man, And you know
I've always I've always been, you know, a political person.
But you know it's not really appropriate for Top Chef.
And we actually do Top Chef in different cities. Is
every every year we do every season. I should say,
rather we do Top Chef and as different you know city,

(05:06):
and you know the culture of that city really does
you know, it really does influence the contestinants and the
food and you know, I definitely you know, you can
say I go for it when I'm in this day,
I try all the food. I eat everything. I ate everything.
I'm the only one on that show who eats everything.
She's and she can say anything, and she sounds so
cool and she's the coolest number one did Yeah, just whatever.

(05:30):
She's she's the best, um. But but we're not here
to talk about her. Really, we're here to talk about someone.
She's the queen. This is the episode for the King.
I serve at her pleasure. That's why that's what makes
for the King. And I actually do as well, okay,
so everyone, welcome into your ears. Go wow, Now that

(05:51):
is a damn intro am. I so loud right now.
We worry you don't We don't worry actually sorry, because
I mean when the king speaks that that actually is
one of the many facets of the king. Is the
voice rings loud through the King my two kings, and
Matt you are also my king, honey. But let me

(06:13):
tell you, we have not met. We have not met enough,
we have not been able to share each other's company. Sure, sure, sure,
but it's just something I know in my spirit and
I operate from my spirit place, and that's actually huge
and I do as well. Um, and I will say
that it's one of the great tragedies of us really
switching cities. Can you believe? I believe? And I was?

(06:36):
I was. I was too fucked up? Is this a
cussing podcast? Okay, good, good, good? I was too fucked
up my first season, you know, getting used to life
to really to really get to mingle and get to

(06:58):
know you King. But I will King, King, other King.
Let me tell you this is I've been waiting for
this moment, and I said, we're gonna make this happen.
As we know, this was supposed to happen. This was
supposed to happen quite a few times in the flesh.
This is not the only time this will happen. This
will happen again. King is part of the Kingdom, truly. Yes, yes,

(07:19):
I'm happy to be. This is an honor. By the way,
come on, no stop it but you I mean, wait,
can we get into the first year that I'm sorry
to Like, yeah, just come in and get into it.
But anybody, this is the thing. And you two can
speak to this better than I, kim, because I have
not had to move to a new city and like
twelve years at this point, like I forget what that

(07:41):
feeling is of like overwhelmed or of just like shock
or whatever. Like I'm I'm afraid to do it ever again,
I don't know. I didn't think I would have to
be like the new kid in life at the age
of thirty. Like that was truly like. And I have
friends that live in New York, but I work opposite schedules,

(08:04):
like my schedules opposite of there, so there's no hanging out.
They all live in Brooklyn. I do not. They work
in Manhattan, live in Brooklyn. If I don't catch them
at like six pm on a week day, it's not happening.
So it was truly jarring. And I had a therapist
that said, had rest, God rest her soul. Um no, no,

(08:25):
she's still allowed. Just run through him. I run through
him like a man slanging d So. Uh. This one
one of her gems was I could allow myself this
past summer. She's like two more in year old life,
and I go, you know, I had never considered that.
I guess, yeah, you know what, I will do that.

(08:45):
How are you doing that? I'm good. I actually love
Los Angeles very much, and um, but what it was
an adjustment? I mean I think, like, I mean, my
thing is like I was such a New York or
I lived there for ten years, and then I also
grew up on Long Island, so it was like, you know,
I didn't I thought I never had to drive again.
I really thought I was never leaving New York again. Um,

(09:08):
and then getting on the road wasn't adjustment for me.
But now I can say confidently that I am a
good driver, although I am back to my heavy foot ways.
She's got a heavy foot, Yeah, are you a weaver?
I missed driving big time. I like to get where
I'm going. It's like Mario Kart on these streets. Yes,
honestly the only way to drive in l are you

(09:30):
guys can't be weavers? That makes me nervous. Don't get
in the car then, yeah, you gotta stay out of
the car. My best friends always like she she'll send
me these memes of driving with me in l A
where she's riding in my passenger seat and she's the
memes that the memes about, like did you die? Though?
Did you die? And she's like, this is driving with you.
And she also has said that she has grown to

(09:50):
trust my driving, though it is jarring because she lives
in Chicago. She's like, so she used to come and
visit in l A. She's and she lived there before.
But she's like, initially on my visit, I'd be like,
oh my god, what are we doing? And then you
get She's like, I get used to it because I
remember you have really quick reaction time. Yeah, have you
ever been in it? Have ever been in a traffic accident?

(10:11):
You know, as an adult? One time? Um, and it
was I was rear ended. My last basic bastard, truly
a bastard who hopped out of his car and said,
I'm on my way to my wedding, so like, what
do you need? And I was like, what was the

(10:33):
first thing he said? First thing he said, He's like, hey,
I'm on my way to my wedding day, I gotta
get out of here. What do you need? And I
was like, oh, okay, Um, so that was funked up
my back real good. Um. And you know it's crazy
is that you imagine getting rear ended is going to
be this thing where it's like everyone came to a
quick stop and the person behind you couldn't stop fast enough.

(10:54):
It was like, no, I was waiting for someone to
park and he wasn't paying attention. And just like, um, so, yes,
this episode not my fault. I'm an incredibly good driver.
I trust you, and no, I actually consider myself a
good driver as well. But if I if any of
my high school friends were here right now, they would laugh,

(11:14):
laugh down because I actually was not responsible. But I
was involved. And I don't know if I've told this
on the pod, but when I was eighteen years old,
I was getting back from a track meet. But when
you know the story, Yes, so I was getting back
from a track meet an invitation. It was a Saturday
and I was getting into my car. I turned on

(11:35):
the radio, made a right hand turn out out onto
the road from my high school, and a kid on
a bike flew out in front of me and rolled
up onto my window and rolled back down. Immediately I stopped.
It was like it was like a tapping, but it
was truly crazy and I had the right of way
at everything. This kid flew out into the street like
a true bad at hell. And then I get out

(11:57):
of the car panicked. My car is on top of
his bike and he had screwed like he had scurried
to the side. But I'm telling you, I was like,
are you okay? And he was he had He was
like holding his knee. He moves his hands out of
his knee, his knees fucked up. And then the police
came out. Girl, no, I fully hit. I fully hit

(12:19):
a kid. And then this was in two eight, bitch,
But it wasn't my fault. The kid was literally driving
koko bananas, flew out into the middle of the road.
And then the people that like were around me were
like it was a total accident. He had a green
light everything, etcetera, etcetera, and the kid like he wasn't

(12:40):
wearing a helmet or anything not that, like I hel well,
you should be wearing a helmet. But not to blame
on him, but was just truly a freak moment. That's
really what I'm here to do, is to just make
sure that this kid knows that it was his fault.
You got ten miles per hour away from being a
Laura Bush to say, Brandy Noville and also Caitlyn Jenner.

(13:07):
Let's not forget I was going to Brandy and and
Caitlin might have been on the same freeway in l A.
Their their situations. I feel like a PC for both
of them, and I might have made that up. I
think at least one of them was. I mean both
of those cases that was vehicular man slaughter. Yeah, I
would hate to be I don't know that I'd be
okay with self. It's not really their fault, right, but

(13:31):
like that is a night, well, yeah, you have to
live with that. The best part was that I logged
onto Facebook after it happened like that night, and everyone
was like um commenting on his on his Facebook, like hey,
hope you're okay, Hope you're okay, and so almost like
what happened? And the kid put on his Facebook status
Matt Rodgers hit me with his car, And that's how

(13:54):
you know that Matt was you know a name. I
was the high school campus celebrity because I did the
morning announcements. I did the morning announcement. This is King,
this is King, that's this is King. But this is
also a trend I found among people in our little circles,

(14:18):
like a lot of comedians and like truly like two
thirds of the cast at work, like we're all morning
announcements people. I remember doing the day after Britney Spears's
VMA performance more, I like signed off and I thought
I was being so smart and funny. I was like,

(14:38):
have a better day than Britney Spears did yesterday. And
it was mortifying and I regret it. And that's my
equivalent of vegular manslaughter. Emotionally, I fully pancaked Britney Spears
that day. I will never forgive myself. Did you hear
about it from the other students, Well, they were like
kind fell and that was so funny that you mentioned
like back then, like no one like a refined sense

(15:01):
of humors that they were just like you referenced a
thing and that's funny, like it was the beginning of
meme culture and what you did that day. I ran
for class president and one of my slogans over the
morning announcements was, whoever said progress was a slow process

(15:21):
wasn't talking about me, king, But let me tell you something.
My teacher, Mr. Spiby, my government teacher, was like, what
was that. He's one of my favorite teachers and made me.
Mr Spiby just truly was I was like, I can't
tell if you're roasting me, if you're genuinely disappointed. That's

(15:41):
it was this line. I couldn't tell where he if
he was really disappointed or roasting me. And I feel like,
you know, I was in high school that that was
actually in high school by then, and yeah, the students
came to thee but but yeah, they liked it. I
just remember being like, oh, that was stupid. That was bad. Mrs.

(16:04):
I remember needing to shake it up a little bit
because they had us on a really like a like
almost like a script, and I would just kind of
throw my little ad libs in there, and like I
remember the the woman who worked in the main office Ms.
Lucas would always kind of give me like an a
raised eyebrow, and I remember she would never let me
say the Pledge of allegiance because quote unquote she liked
to do it. Um, so that's what we're dealing with here.

(16:28):
One day, as my sign off, I said, instead of like,
have a great day, I said thanks, and have an
earth shattering day. And I got called into the principle
because he said that, um, we couldn't be having a
terrorists like, so this is what like see after two
thousand one, right after that, like this is like this
is two eight So it was still like everyone was like, oh,

(16:51):
hashtag terrorism. So he thought that my earth shattering day
was like a dog whistle, and I was like, well,
we would hate for someone to hear me and shatter
the earth. Were you a little ass hole in school?
Bat Well, I'll tell you this. I had my moments.

(17:13):
I certainly had my moments, but I was really generally
a good kid. I was actually prom king. Oh, actually
an actual king king. I mean here's the thing, this
is king. When we talk about king, were talking about me,
we mean Matt Rogers. I was doing like all American

(17:35):
boy drag. I I was homecoming king, but I king.
I got in a lot of trouble. Now that I
think back on high school, this is a this is
the thing that I've tried to erase for my pastors
that I've gotten in a lot of trouble. Got suspended,
he wore a scarlet letter. I never got suspended. Trips

(17:56):
in the principal's office, but never suspended. You get five
days oss. I got five day out of school suspension
for criminal criminal. Here's what happened. This was April two
thousand four, freshman year of high school. Wow, a young criminal,
young criminal. Um, young criminal, good criminal, good criminal. I'm

(18:22):
going to have to suspend that one. We um just
got our yearbooks and I was in the closet, but
like kind of just like key keying with with the girls,
the literal siss girls of corks, of of the of
the grade of corks. And then one of them, Um,

(18:43):
we don't necessarily need full and full. First, I was
going to say, is this a cast where we dropped
first and last actually first and last names, And I'm like, okay,
that girl's burned. Well, I'm positive that I'm positive that
first name was Ashley. Okay, So here. Here's what happened.
She had a stepfather who was this huge, huge lawyer.

(19:04):
I don't know what kind of law but this big, big,
big lawyer in town. And she and I got along great.
And then she and I had this bit going on
all freshman year that like I was gonna that we
were gonna have sex, like in a way that in
a very like ironic way and a very ironic I
was like, we're gonna we're gonna have sex someday like
this summer. When should we should we should we like
put in the books, like when we're gonna have sex,

(19:26):
like all this stupid stuff. Right. Um, So then in
the yearbook, when the yearbooks came out, I wrote, Hey, Ashley,
can't wait to funk this summer love Bowen, like where
it was the thing where the dynamic was clearly like
Bowen's not into girls, and like it's it's all in
good humor. So then yeah, you have heard this, right, Okay,
heard this? So then I come home one day from

(19:48):
my violin lesson, I played to play Yes King, Yes King.
I was actually a true clarinet queen. Clarinet queen. I
was a clarinet queen with the rest of the whors
Everyone knows that the whors play would win, especially Real

(20:09):
Culture number fourteen, the hors Wood wind Winds. I do
believe that's true. I believe that's true. That's changing reads.
You know, I wasn't that good at violin, but anyway,
but then violin, So they come up with violin. And
then um, there's like seven messages on the answering machine.

(20:31):
Just hang up some clicks, hanging up some clicks, and
then we get another call. We're like, who kept calling us?
And then we get another call and it's from Ashley's stepfather,
who starts off the call by saying, I just want
you to know that I've been sitting here by the
phone a very long time because there are a lot
of Yang's in the phone book. And then because Denver

(20:56):
suburbs are very Korean, Um there's a there's a heavy
rein population. But anyway, UM, there's a lot of Yangs
in the phone book, and blah blah blah blah blah.
And then he goes, this is sexual harassment. You have
violated my my stepdaughter, and I take my relationship with
her various and and like this whole time, I was
like there's no fucking way that Ashley like ratted me

(21:18):
out or anything. What the hell? But but then, but then,
but then the whole call, he was like, so, I
am going to do everything in my power to get
the school board to expel you, everything in my power
to get the school board to expel e spell to
expel my am. And then the next day I go
in and then I and then I'm freak out and
then my mom is like what are you? Like my

(21:40):
mom didn't understand what's going on. And then um, the
next day before I got called into the dean's office,
Ashley like comes to me and she's like, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry, Like I can't like fix this. She
did you tell her that her words were empty? Yes?
I truly was like, I you're your stepfather's insane. Um,

(22:02):
but anyway, uh, and then like truly never spoke to
her again. But then yeah, they suspended me for five days.
Isn't crazy? Absurd? Absurd? Absurd? And then I had on
my college applications I had to like explain there's like
a section in like the common appen in every application
where they were like, have you ever been like whatever?
Blah blah blah, have you ever been suspended? Explained why?

(22:23):
And I had to be like, well, there's a sexual
harassment line item in my trance through Eversen, and here's
what happened, and here's what I learned. It was truly
funny but also so so stupid. Did you get up
to mischief there? Go? No? You know, well, no, I

(22:44):
have an issue with authority. I don't like people telling
me what to do. I never have, not even as
a young person. Um, And I don't like when people
adults take a tone with me. Don't take a tone
with me. You can tell me the exact same thing,
Son's tone. And so yeah, I would get a lot

(23:07):
of like I would, I would get a lot. I
was said to the principal's office quite a bit. But
I would then go there and then be like, and
now I'm going to talk to the principle like we're
buddies and it's fine, and they forget why I'm there,
and they forget that I was being disruptive or whatever. Um,
I knew this girl. I knew this girl. We all

(23:31):
knew this girl. Yes, I just but I was good grades.
I I did like to have my fun in class
but I was also a child of immigrants. I respected adults,
but I just feel, don't use I'm not to be
used as a scapegoat, and don't take a tone with me,
and we'll be fine. See And I think, I go,

(23:53):
this is my theory. If I mean, I'm gonna armchair
analyzed for a second, that that issue with authority I
think has very productively and very beautifully transposed itself on
your low tolerance for bullshit when you date people. Yeah,
I think so. It's just one of my favorite things

(24:14):
to do is listen to you talk about how stupid
men are. I know, you know someone is asking me
during quarantine, are your any flings coming back to check
up on you? Like during this quarantine. You know it's
a time everyone's got downtime, people are feeling lonely. And
the answer is no, none of mine are because I

(24:35):
have trained all my hose and they know not they don't.
That's not an option for them, don't you You wouldn't
have it any other way though. No, I don't want
any of them contact me. There's no one I can
think of that. I'm like, oh, I wish he would,
you know, if he texted me late night and I'm
in a mood like I not a single person I've
dealt with do I want to hear from right now?

(24:59):
They're you know what, there's one person who if he honestly,
there's one guy that if I'm curious, I mean, I
hope to really be in love with whoever I'm married,
I imagine I will be. But there's one person that
I'm like, man, if he texted me while I were married,
I would maybe feel that, oh, that I will act

(25:21):
on it, but I might go, well, that's there might
be a fleeting moment where you're just like, oh, I
love to love to hear from him. See, I always
love to hear from anyone who wants to reach out.
I call them the community. Whenever the community wants to
reach out. And there is a community of people out
there who I've spent time with, shared time with, and

(25:44):
if they ever want to reach out, I always welcome that.
And this is his message to you. He reach out.
Like how you say there's people have shared time with,
because I him too, dealing with would make it sound
like I didn't. I had to, you know, laboriously get

(26:05):
through the process. I've enjoyed many processes I what are
some of the names of your processes. I would actually say,
let's do first and last first campaign naming names. Campy
naming is always welcome to d M sloide Um. I
love that some of these girls during char are getting
very horny on Maine. Yeah, people, Yeah, you know that

(26:29):
that's something that something unique to me. Um seems to
be horny on me. I don't get horny on me.
I actually don't given I don't give that to My
main is Christian, have a Christian Maine. Christian Maine. My
main is born in Christian Maine is another front runner

(26:49):
for title of that. Okay, we're gonna take a quick
break and we'renna be right back with ego. Okay, we're back.
But my thing is, if I've ever hooked up with
a person in my life, three years later they do
become the hottest person in the world. So I always say,
I'm like, I'm like Dane Cook and good luck Chuck.
But for Instagram aesthetic Okay, okay, And that's also a

(27:10):
little backdoor brag too. I mean, they look, they look
good when I have them, and then three years later
they look like someone who it's impossible they could I
could ever be in the same Wow, it's crazy when
she could say the same. I look back on some
of mine and I go, I will be by myself
and think of someone I've dealt with and god like

(27:33):
at the out loud audible right by myself and go, um,
so that's not there's one man. There's one man. Often No,
he doesn't do comedy. He doesn't. He doesn't do comedy,
he doesn't dabble in entertainment. Hey, can we speak in

(27:59):
vagary about what it is about him that that makes
him sort of still there? You know. I had this
conversation last night about him with my friend. My friend
Jason was like, what is it about him? And so
here's the thing is that I am such an alpha
woman that it felt he felt he seemed to out

(28:24):
alpha me boy, and it was like, yes, I am
dealing with an alpha man here who can make me
feel like a little petite queen. You know. Um. I
felt safe with him, physically safe. Um. And he is
so handsome. He's handsome. We're talking, we're talking. I mean

(28:51):
he is black, white, Native American. I mean, come on,
come on, Okay. So then, because this is interesting because
I feel like the thing that I I in your head,
you're like looking good looking through I'm going through it.

(29:11):
Video on the music video on the beach, she's shaking
your head. Gosh. Well, okay, because I feel like a
lot of guys you hate that. You hate when a
lot of guys stonewall or they're just idiots and they
like don't give you any sort of like well this
room to like there's no entry point with a lot
of these men. Well, yeah, I feel like I don't.

(29:34):
Unfortunately I'm not. I don't know if what flirtation looks
like to me is normally I'm like I like to
I'm like, let me roast you. You like the neg Well,
so if I actually okay, So here's the thing. If
I actually like a guy, um, I become very shy,

(29:54):
so there is no necking. It's like very like I'm
like this big um. But that almost never happens. So
what I'm like on a on a date normally is
like I'm driving the conversation. Um, if I feel he
has thick enough skin, I will roast him um. But honestly, yeah,
I'm not. I don't want to be like that. I

(30:16):
want to be a I don't know how to. This
is what happens with them is that I think that
I'm not like, I don't flirt properly, so um, I
maybe have walls up that I don't even see, and
so that they don't know what to do with that.
But rest assured the man that I'm talking about that

(30:37):
could have it now shouldn't reach out and want it.
If he today or any day I wanted to reach out,
he could he. I mean I knew him for a
very short amount of time, and he I think about
him how many years later? Six years? Sometimes those happen

(30:58):
that first there was I was like, I hung out
with this guy one time in college. I went to
visit my friend Alison at college, and um, like I
met her one gay friend whose name was also Matt.
And I thought about that boy for seven eight years

(31:18):
and no one could ever really compete. Yeah, not until
I not until I had my first boyfriend, Like years later,
did I like really let that guy go. Still to
this day, sometimes I'll just go I'll go to the
Instagram and be like, what good b wait, what does
that does that look good? Looks he looks good? Where? Yeah?

(31:45):
For sure, I don't care. He lives outside of Boston
as a boyfriend. It's like, it's like, whatever, it's been
so many years and I don't even know what his
deal is now. But do you remember this guy Blin
when we were we were in a went up to
Boston because I was so excited he was going to
be there. I was like, we were going to be
in the same city. And then you know, time passes
and things change, but I will always have that weekend.

(32:09):
And at the University of Massachusetts Amherst Amherst, Amherst, Dakota
went to college. Who was Mr Dakota. Dakota is the
one we're talking about. Dakota is the one I'm talking about.
The Oh we're using first and first names. That's yes.

(32:30):
Amherst actually secretly has that bomb. Dick. Apparently they apparently
had that bomb. It's actually a really culture over seventeen
has that Apparently. I was. I was in love with
this boy love I've ever felt. So yes, I've never

(32:53):
been in love, and I'm pretty sure it's the closest
to I'd him for one week and then we saw
each other again a year later for one day Christmas.
Have you ever seen the movie Go to the Distance?
With Drew Barrymore and justin Long. Me and this guy
used to text each other that that was our movie.
Come on because it was like about L d R.

(33:16):
I need to I'm going to watch this because I'm
a real simple underneath all these girl. This is a
good movie. And I have a very very very very
soft spot for Drew Barrymore. Okay, all she is something special?
Yes ever all okay, yes, and you must name one.

(33:45):
I don't mean to put you in the spot. Honestly
took me a while that it took me a while
to think of, think of. Josh Sharp showed our our
other king, Josh Sharp. All three of us, Yes, we
all love a Josh Sharp. We bowed to Josh really
to reserve it his pleasure. He played me the screen
test for the kid who played Elliott. Have you seen this? Crazy?

(34:08):
He just need to look this up as well. You
got to look this up, ego. It's basically like this
kid who ended up booking um Elliott in et giving
an audition that we as actors respect, must respect and
it's timeless, and they he booked the role in the audition.
They tell him right after they cut. Does that happen

(34:29):
in Hollywood anymore though, in the room booking in the room,
in the room, huh, wouldn't you rather just be offer only?
I would love to be offer only. I would love
to not put makeup on travel to the audition blase
at this point, can you'd be surprised how many people

(34:51):
want me to do a self tape? One self tape
in quarantine? Yes, she doesn't do them. I don't do them.
And so was asked to do one in quarantine. This
was like week one and I go, what no, But
I bet you auditioned. I you know what. I have
found a way. I'm not even I can like bashful here,

(35:16):
but to be honest, I have found a way. Can
you summarize it? Can you summarize your way? And you
are very good? You pop on my way? I just
thank you, king gass me, I'll gasant gass me. My
way is I decided that I'm like, you get to
this is the corny is actory thing I'm about to say.

(35:37):
But my way you get to have five minutes to
put on it g d show, put on a show
and do whatever you want. And and honestly, I had
a casting executive tell me to throw it like throwout
breakdowns like this into She's like, the breakdown is nothing
and we don't know. She's like, no way, it doesn't matter.

(36:00):
So I put on a show, a beginning, middle, and end.
I kids, you not uh in my auditions and I
have the most fun because of it. I mean I
don't miss auditioning, to be clear, but I am like
I found a way to like make it work for
me or whatever. I for the longest time had such

(36:21):
a hard time and auditions and they made me nervous
and they made me I remember, I felt like a
very like whatever, I'll just say. Whenever I went I
was on stage, I always felt really powerful, and then
when I would get in the audition room, I felt
like I lost all my power and I didn't know
what it was. And finally I took a session with

(36:41):
an acting coach who used to be a casting director,
and she told me, she was like, you need to
understand that it doesn't fucking matter, and you need to
go in there and have fun, because that is that everything.
It's the same thing as being on stage when you
have fun, they have fun. It's the same thing as auditioning.
Going there, you have nothing to lose because you don't

(37:02):
have the job yet and go in there and be
confident to have a good time. And even just hearing
the words which I knew deep inside, but even just
hearing those words like you gotta let it go and
you've gotta have fun was so helpful. And the results
for me in the past eighteen months, as opposed to
where I was, have been night and day. Yeah. Yeah,

(37:23):
it's so rudimentary and that I will tell friends that
I'm like, oh, you just have to have fun, and like,
do what the funk you want? Like truely, just be like, oh,
I'm gonna great. These are the words, great, I'm gonna
honor them, whatever, but I'm gonna have so much fun.
And you hate to hear it because it just sounds
like someone's daring you, like cliche advice, but it's actually
the thing. And to make it work for you, don't

(37:44):
try to do the sides. Make the side walk for you.
That is huge advice that I could get. Yeah, and
I love this beginning, middle and end thing. I go, yes, yeah,
I I this is who I had a general recently
and this executive was get me, which was funny, Actually
was kind of funny because General's I don't love, but

(38:04):
this was kind of funny. And this is why I
take toxic men um because because I think, I mean
men are funny. Um. So he was making fun of
my uh Law and Order Menendez murders credit where I
played juror number. Cannot remember maybe twelve. Remember I cannot

(38:25):
remember my juror number. I do believe my name was
Lynn though as well. But let me tell you that
paid for this laptop. Thank you, Dick. Um so uh.
I that audition was one line. It was like two sentences,

(38:46):
one line for this recurring role. Um and it. I
remember being like I had like a weird one the
day before for something else, and then for this one.
I was like, this is two sentences, like two and
a half sentences. I'm like, great, this game changer this day. Alright,
go we're gonna beginning, middle, and end this ship. So
I had like a baby scene up tap with no

(39:08):
words that because I was also the last person they saw,
I wasn't going in at the end of the day.
The sun side and sheet had a million people. For
Juror number twelve, I was the last person. Um, it's
like sixty I do a beginning no words and then
I do the actual words, and then I had an end,
and then it was like and she booked it and
she and I was like, oh, that's what they want.

(39:31):
You need to do this. I need to do this
all the time because that just proves it out where
there's there's no sides that are too short for beginning,
middle and end. And also like this myth of that
you have to do exactly the words, Like I don't
know how you guys feel, but if I don't feel
like I have enough in my self tapes, I improvise
like I want. Like I recently went on tape for

(39:51):
something and it was a comedic role and I knew
that it was a series regular and a large part,
but just it just so happened that in the sides
there were just no there was not a lot of jokes.
So like I thought, if I do this on tape
and I'm not even in the room with a casting director,
they're gonna see this and it's gonna look basic and
not like nothing. And so I gave myself and like

(40:14):
even just like making a character choice beforehand and being
like this is the perspective, that's where I'll improvise based
off of just give yourself fill the time because they're
only going to get the tape. They're not gonna be
able to say hello and goodbye to you and strike
up a conversation with you based on the even the weather.
So if you are doing a self tape, fill the
self tape up, yes, and even even kind of do

(40:36):
like the you know, put the conversation in there, like hey,
how's it going, and then pause and wait for them
to responds trying to drag you kick, No, I'm not
dragging anybody here. These are two actors, you two, and
I'm gonna say it, and this is and I just
want to say this as a way to compliment my
kings and exalt my kings, but these two are better

(40:57):
actors than me combined and me combined in me combined King,
that's an actual lie. When King, when my King did
his update week two of his first season on Saturday
Night Live, a program that has been an air from
more than twelve season, okay, I was like, Wow, a performer,

(41:19):
a true performer, captivating, you know. And by the way,
I just want to also, I'm having a moment right now,
the moment I'm looking at both of you right now
and I go, I'm in the presence of royalty. Is
not a bit. This isn't a bit, This isn't a gas.

(41:39):
This is realness. Because the game show fantastic and we
have to standon Zel. You did you did the showcase? Yes?
And that is my hunt. Oh my goodness, that voice.
The number of times I've made her sing for me,

(41:59):
There are deals on my phone of her singing for
me over the course of the last few years. Yes,
it was true wish fulfillment to even have her on
the show, because I was truly that girl who was
voting American Idol season four. Didn't even see Carrie Underwood,
didn't see her eyes on Zel up until way past

(42:22):
my bedtime school day the next day. One eight six idols, Oh,
whatever number I had to type for Ms von Zelle,
thank you for a voting for contestants six whatever number
she was von Zelle. And then every now and then
they would do the special treat of being like, Hi,
this is von Zell, and thank you for voting for me.
Watch American Idol tomorrow for the results. And I was

(42:43):
always like, yes, but slay Slay, slay slash. She's so
good on game show and even to meet her. You guys,
you guys, I'm just having a moment where I'm like, wait,
these people aren't regular girl. King. Okay, I'm having him away.
Look at you two. I might wait, let me let
this really sink in here because we're doing this. But

(43:06):
I'm like, honey, you guys are like, but this is
this is I stand and I truly love and I
exult because of course it's King, but I really want
to say, like, it's bumming me out that we all
can't be in the same room because I was I
was about to fly to New York, babe to do
this in the flash, and I thought, oh great, great,

(43:27):
I can have my moment with Ego. And so now
we have to do the moment remote and it is
the great tragedy of kar again. It is. We'll have
to do it again because I would love to. I
would love for us to have our in room moment.
I really wanted to do this. I it's gonna happen again.
And here's the thing. It will happen again. But right
after this break, we are going to have actually the

(43:48):
true beginning of the episode here now forty five minutes
in and it's going to be Ego wote I'm answering
the question about what culture made her say the culture
was for her and it's actually gonna have right after
this break. Okay, we're back with Ego um Ego. First,
before we get to the question, I have to say
there's a lot of exalting happening because it is King.

(44:09):
But this is this is King, this is King. I'm talking.
We're talking to one of my true soulmates, that one
of my partners at that damn show, and you need
your damn was gonna say, you must really need good
friends there you do? Are you kidding me? Imperative? Okay,

(44:30):
what you've seen that like my lowest damn moments. Oh
you've seen me. You've seen me this season. You caught
me in the hallway slipping. I was. And then anytime
you like come into my dressing room, my dr we're
going to talk shop for just one secontalk. I just
it's always so welcome. And then like truly like I

(44:52):
and then I think about like conversations that you and
I have just had one on one where we just
get real about stuff when like things are crazy and
we're just I'm just think God, because the amount of
isolation you feel. I mean, I'm just thinking about like
being like loneliness in general now especially, but like in
some ways, I feel like that job sets you up
to be good at being alone, and it is isolating

(45:13):
it in some ways that like thickens your skin whatever.
But like the moments where you do get like solidarity
with people, You're just like, oh, thank God, and this
is such a blessing and like honestly and not to
not to like I'm not even comparing it, but it's
like you and Heidie to like the thing you you
guys have is like so special, and I love Heidie Gardner.

(45:34):
She is like my baby. That's my baby, my baby,
Like she's connecting all of us. Yeah, but I I
I'm really excited because I when I think about work,
because I'm I I'm like, oh, there are people there
in this very hard place that I'm like, your heart
is good, your soul is good. We have a real
genuine connection. We are for one another. And you can

(45:59):
be frustrated and um discouraged and disappointed but still simultaneously
be celebrating your friend and wanting to support your friend,
and that feels really special, like a special thing we
have and I was talking to someone who is an
exact at the Peacock Um and it was like this,

(46:21):
that wasn't That's not always the case here, So it's
not always that. So I feel really fortunate to be
here at a time where that is the case, and
there are people that I feel connected to and I love.
I'm always in Bowen's dressing room. It's so comfy and
just I'm and sometimes I'm like, I'm that annoying neighbor
who just won't leave, and it's always and I haven't

(46:43):
Apparently I knock like a police officer. I think Chris
Chris is always like you knock like the police, but
I don't know any other way to knock. So I
am just enough. It's perfect, the Prince of my heart.
I adore you, King, and I really am. I mean,

(47:04):
we we are exalting. We're exalting is because this is
king this is the culture. Let me just I'm just
we're exalting the kingdom here that exists. This is a kingdom.
But I today I think I called somebody and I
was like King, and I was like, oh, sorry, that's

(47:25):
not for you. It quite literally didn't feel right, and
not because I don't love the person, not because they're
not lovely and correct in so many ways. But I
was like, oh, that's not that's not what I call
Not everyone is king, and that's everyone. Thank you, okay,

(47:46):
and actually this is something I want to be highlighted.
Not everyone is king, Make no mistake. It's actually a
royal culture number ninety one. Not everyone can be born
into the royal family. Okay, all right, I'm glad we
got that out of the way. I feel good about that.
I wanted to um say because I I feel it's

(48:07):
a good opportunity to highlight someone. I wanted to express
my condolences to you guys for the loss of your friend.
How that was. That was very sad to hear about.
And I've heard from several people that worked there what
an amazing person and an amazing talent he was. And
I thought that was really classy of SNL to have

(48:28):
that piece where all the casts and people involved with
the show we're talking about about about him and his
his goodness and his talent was just he Yeah, he
was someone who, like UM was kind of like came
with the job, he got there, and he was just
that person who like has been there. Yeah, yeah, I'll

(48:48):
never introduced himself to me, but just started talking to
me like my first season, and it's the kind of
like it's so the people who have been there for
so long and do things like that. I'm like, Oh,
it makes you feel seen and sometimes you feel invisible,
and so you so so special in that way. So
I'm definitely going to miss him. But that was a

(49:09):
really touching special tribute. Imagine imagine I set that up
and AGA was just like, well, he never introduced himself
to me. Well, he never introduced himself to me, so
so I can't comment whatever you need to say about
the piece. And then I guess we're gonna go into
my whole culture thing here. He actually never introduced himself

(49:38):
to me, so so I just I was reading everyone
else's tributes and I said, okay, okay, they knew him
literally laughing. Um, okay, bout Bowen. It's time for you
to ask the question of King. This is the question
that we have to ask King, which is King, what
is the culture that made you say culture is for me?
This is the culture that really pivoted your life into

(50:01):
a cultural direction. You said, I want to be a
part of culture. I think the real moment was the
I can't say a day nor a time, but an
era the bad Boy by Entertainment era Kim and the
remix of crush On You with all the colors, the
blue wig, the red wig, the yellow with the matching furs.

(50:27):
I was, I believe, at that point, eight years old,
a young thought, if you will. And I was a
young thought, and I was just like, yes, I want
to bumble with the bee huh, but that's from all
about the Benjamin's remix. But crush on You. She that
the colors and that popped. She was such a badass

(50:48):
bully herself. And that's when I said, And just that
entire era, the Mace, the Diddy, I mean at times
Loon was part of it. Mary J. Blige was part
of Faith Evans. That whole conglomerate was just like, yes,
culture is for me, culturist for me. Hardcore is an
album that is like all killer, no filler, no skips,

(51:09):
no damn skips, big Mama thing on hardcore, Like do
I remember, truly I was. I guess I was comparatively
comparatively late to the game with Lo Kim and what
we can get to the rest of Bad Boy, but
with Little Kim. The first time I remember the first time.
I do remember the day in the place in the
time that I was first introduced to Lot Kim, which
was which was the Lady Marmaland video, and I was like,

(51:31):
who the fuck is that? And like was just obsessed
and it just because back then, like no one was
doing what she was doing, Like I mean on red
carpets for sure, but even just in terms of like
overt sexuality, it was like no one was on that level. Yeah,
and even before that, the titty out at the freaking

(51:53):
I mean yes, the pasty she put on the map
she put and I leave Diddy's um, Missa Hilton, who
has didd he's one of Diddy's baby Mama's styled little kid.
It's like the most iconic things she's done and that
would forever go down in history the way she dressed her,
So you know, she really does like get lost in

(52:16):
the conversation. And that was why I think people are
always like, why are these female rappers coming for each other?
It's like because you all move on and don't pay respect,
and it's like it's like the way that women get
it in general, it's like people just move on and
when once they turned forty or whatever. Historically, it's like

(52:39):
with rappers, it's even worse because it's like you like,
it really feel sometimes like or has historically like there
could only be one, and I feel like that gets
into their heads because there is truth behind it, and
that's why the feuds pop off. And the thing is
and I and I wish there's such power now and
not like subs gribing to that way of thought that

(53:01):
there could only be one. And yes, the first a
long time that just was the sort of the case,
the same where it could only be one minority on
a TV show or what have you. But it's not
that's not the case anymore. So to see female rappers
not like big epping each other is truly devastating, detrimental,
and I think takes us back quite a bit in

(53:21):
a way. We don't need, we don't need for that
to be the case. But I low Kim, Yeah, she
all with all due respect because I'm like she that's
like that overt sexuality, the crass nature of her lyrics,
all of that, I'm like, you have to give it
up to her, Yes, iconic her and Biggie having like

(53:45):
recording themselves having sex or it was just a skit
on Biggie's first album. Yeah, but I remember listening to
that like as a teenager and being like, oh, Mike,
that's and like someone was like that's a little Kim
and I was like what. And then that opened up
like she was like the entry point into like Biggie
and and and Diddy and like I just and all
of that, like like for for from a queer perspective

(54:07):
or just from like another perspective, like she was like
the person who like shepherded you into into all of that.
And now it's like and then you like gain an
appreciation for like the whole collective of people that was,
and it's beautiful. It is, it's so special. I you know.
Some there's also this thing that like bad Boy ruined
some careers as well, which I find to be funny

(54:30):
and like mildly true because Diddy's was always most concerned
with Diddy, which can often be human nature. Right. Um,
but uh, that entire, I mean that entire, So many
of them that don't even make music anymore. I mean
there's there's I Need a Girl Part one in Part
two there's two parts to part. We don't even know

(54:54):
where Loon is. I feel like I will google, like
randomly google people from that time that and like where
are they now? And I think Lun might be in
jail or he got me got in trouble for smuggling
some stuff. I do know that at some point what
happened to Mace. Mace became a pastor and then he yeah,
Mace became a pastor. He I don't believe he's still

(55:17):
a pastor, but recently he was. Um months ago, I
had read something about him being like did he give
me either money or my master's like of his music
or something? It was one or the other. Like yeah, yeah,
so it might not be all family spirit right now. Yeah, exactly,
it's I don't know that it is. But I did
see did he go live yesterday? And he played Been

(55:40):
around the World remixed with Mace and him and he
because it was requested by A Rod and j Low
with him. Wow, Oh my god, wow didn't even Yeah,
there was no couple bigger No. I was like, is

(56:01):
there chemistry? What's he? Yeah? But it was fine. A
Rod was present and then he left at some point,
but um, yeah, and then he left them alone to
have a conversation to catch up. I will never forget
that night that they got arrested, the two of them.
Oh yeah, this is like them up. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

(56:28):
it really was. I forget exactly what went down, but
I remember it was like Jennifer Lopez at that time
was really on the up and up, like she was
like becoming it. Like I don't know if this was
right or it was right around the time she dropped
on the six and like her movie career was popping off.
And then I remember they had like something happened and

(56:50):
it was sting at the shoot up in the club
and they're like, honestly, his entourage pulled a gun out
or yeah, yep, that's what it was. And you know
who took the fall for that as um Shine? Oh um,
what's up? Shine? Bonnie and Clyde was his song, right,
but no Bonnie and Shine oh something like that. But anyway,
he took the fall. He went to he went to

(57:12):
um prison. But j Lo I think that was her
moment where she's like, you were going to funk up
my life if this is the company, you know, I
think we're done here, and she got arrested. She did.
They both arrested. She was coughed, coughed and was Yeah

(57:33):
she actually had experience and hustlers. She drew from that,
but yeah, bad Boy was so iconic and made some
of my favorite music. And the thing is, I think
I now am such a sucker for sample songs because
because of Bad Boys, so much of their music was
sampled at like the production of it was a sample

(57:55):
music and it turned me into this person who's like,
I love a samplessage now I also love oldies as
a result. Remember the song um Ghetto Superstar, it was
od b MA was like Maya's Maya's introduction. Yes, I remember.
I was so gagged, like ten years later when I

(58:16):
found out that was an island in the stream. Yeah,
I thought it was my Ghetto Superstar. Originally I was like, oh,
Dolly Parton and yeah on the stream, I was like
what You're like, what is this? I was like, you're
telling me this is some Kenny Rogers Dolly partnership and

(58:36):
it's up in this Ode Beamer Maya song. Crazy. Yeah,
Well that's I mean, I had those moments still or
I'll be like, yes, my ship is about to come
on when I'm listening to the radio or something when
am I listen to radio but like a movie and
I'm like, yes, this is my ship. And then I'm like, oh, no,
it's not because I don't know this this is the
original of that song. I didn't no Shaka Khans through

(59:01):
the Wire, I mean through the Fire. I only knew
Kanye West through the Wire. And then I heard through
the Fire and I was like, oh, this is the
moment that was That was me for Touch the Sky
Kanye West, and then um, move on up, Like I
was like, oh wow, Like yes, this is I mean
like Kanye I guess was kind of the spiritual successor

(59:21):
to all that. But it was like yes, like like
a thing where people like us to learn about the
thing and we kind of like that is the sennector
key for the other I don't know, it's it's it's great. Also,
you have to say bad Boy and Diddy providing the
best years of making the band. Oh my gosh, they're
bringing making the band back by the wedding, didn't they haven't.

(59:43):
They tried to bring it back so many times apparently
I know, but yeah, they well now I don't know
that they are because they were having auditions in the
before the pandemic hit, so maybe that's on pause, but
I think they're serious about but making the band was
my ship. When he made them go get the cheesecake,
I was I could not believe he made them walk
to get cheesecake from Junior And I was like, do

(01:00:03):
you really want this? Do you really want this career?
If you really want it, you're walking get the cheesecake.
Tru so abusive. I was this to the Danny Kane girls,
who was this too? This was to like the hip
hop arm trying to think, Oh, you just said the
word Babs and blew my mind. Do you remember Mysterious? Wait?

(01:00:28):
She was like the she was like the sort of
like uh plus sized girl in the group, or maybe
she almost made the group and her name was Mysterious
and she like didn't end up making it to the end.
But girl, that was a good season of TV. That
was good, funny. Bab okay, Babs, Babs. The biggest moment

(01:00:49):
from it was Babs Ness and Fred who were in
the band with her. We're going to fight and then
Franzworth Bentley was at the house and going to break
up the fight and then she was just like let them,
let them fight, like her thing being like they need
to have this fight. It's it's gonna be cathartic for
both of them. Let this will be the thing that
finally squashes their beef. Please do not break up this

(01:01:09):
physical altercation. It's gonna save us, all um. And then
I'm trying to think. Babs literally called daban d A
B A n D. That's what they would always say. Ye, yep, yep,
that's exactly how they went on one of six in
parking and throw themselves. It's the d A B A
N D and they all sit down. Um. It was like,

(01:01:36):
I have the wikipedia up. Sarah Stokes was the same,
by the way, I just need to touch on that
seemed innocent as all hell. I think like stabbed her okay,
stabbed her husband like years like ten years ago. Like
if you look there, where is Sara Stokes now? You
will find that something happened. She was arrested for something.

(01:01:57):
Then there was Babs, Freddie p Chopper and Dilon Diilon
who I swear on the first season his name was
Dylan and then he came back the second season Dion
and I spit hot fire and I'm like, where did
the accent? I don't remember you having an accent, and
I remember your name being Dylan. He found the accent

(01:02:20):
that Halle Berry lost an X men the Shade I found.
I pulled up something on their Stokes. Are we ready? Okay?
We sent? Is already insane and so cruel. Okay, here
we go. Sarah Stokes, loosely termed quote unquote star of
MTVS making the band The Shade, was arrested after stabbing

(01:02:41):
her husband Tony several times in full view of their
three children. All like, not like that, right, that girl,
she just had a healthy mix and was going about
her business. She compartmentalized that ship. She did. I said, well, Sarah, Sarah,
he said, I knew you had it in the bird

(01:03:09):
he was. And then fonds Worth Bentley, I didn't. I
saw him at the airport recently, like with his wife.
Where were we were at the airport? Maybe I don't know,
but I saw Fonds with Bentley, and I'm like, your
whole persona has changed because he was like a hop
skippy umbrella holding bright color where yeah, he seemed normal

(01:03:31):
as hell. The last saw I'm like two months ago.
I'm like yeah, you seem normal. I don't. That was
a whole stick like a thing. I have so much
to thank Diddy for and I mean really changed my
entire my childhood. I have a picture of a little
Kim on my wall in my office where to confirm, yeah,

(01:03:51):
there's whatever is the is the poster from. I think
it's from hardcore. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's hardcore.
You know. Sometimes it can be a little tough to
seek him now, just because I think that the industry
and the years get cruel to people that that are
from that generation. Like think about it, like if you
were famous in the nineties, if you were major famous
in the nineties and like involved in like the tabloid

(01:04:14):
of it all and the major fame of it all,
very few of them are like still uh hanging in
there in a cool way. And she was on UM
the Tyler Henry Hollywood medium. Do you know about this?
He's he is a twink psychic who was able to
talk to um people who have passed on, and he

(01:04:35):
has celebrities, And the whole bit is he doesn't know
any of the celebrities until they arrive. So but she
came to his house and she walked in and he
was like, I immediately knew who this was. And so
she sat down and they have this whole conversation where
he's like connecting with people who have crossed over from
her life, and you, as the viewer, are just waiting
for being you to come up. Yeah, and he comes up.

(01:04:56):
He does so basically they're they're they're going to commercial,
and then he goes, is there anything else that you
want to know about about Biggie because it's clear that
she really wanted to connect with him, and she just goes, well,
I think everyone would want to know who shot him.
And then they cut the commercial and you think for
a second that this that this show starring a blonde twink,

(01:05:20):
it's gonna reveal the answer to who shot Diggy shot
And they come back and he's like, okay, cool, definitely
can answer that absolutely, and he's like scribbling in his
book and then all of a sudden looks up and
he goes, huh, because it's all his whole thing. She
just goes huh, Okay, interesting, okay, huh. And then she

(01:05:41):
said she's like what and he's like, well, he says
that it was definitely someone that some people that he
knew also knew wow, and she goes, she goes, she goes,
oh my god, Yes, that makes so much sense because
he actually brought us into the recording studio and he

(01:06:01):
said that he thought something was going to go down.
And then he's like, yeah, so so there you go.
What she was like, thank you you helped me. I
said wow. I said wow. I said wow, Kim, I
said wow. And Sir Medium, I absolutely said that had
to have been a produced thing where they were like,

(01:06:21):
okay and caim, this is where you kind of set
up the like the act break. She was fully getting
her check on that episode. She was just like, all right,
what do I have to say? Where my scene behind
the scene of that conversation that called to her to
be like you can you will you do this? Also
about this, he was like Tyler Henry, Tyllywood, Tyler Henry

(01:06:43):
Hollywood Medium Twink psychic k was, which is what I
call him, was telling her like, Okay, so I'm connected
with him and he wants me to know. He wants
you to know flat out that you were the love
of his life. And she was like really, oh my god, yes,
I wanted and then and then I was he was
famously married to Faith Evans still very much that still

(01:07:05):
alive and probably watching married to Stevie Jane now, which
is a real twist. I don't know it's somebody from
Love and hip hop. I don't watch some hip hop,
but I know he's like I always hear his name
in relation to it, and so he is a main
player on love and hip Well, speaking of love and
hip hop, like Cardi B and we were talking about before,

(01:07:26):
how they don't it's tough for them to like show
each other love now just because of how competitive it is.
She really is on her Instagram shouting out other female rappers,
shouting out young talents. She really is, like I remember,
I chucked out a few of the people that she
was talking about because she I think realizes that she
doesn't want to turn intoto Cki Minaj and I respect

(01:07:48):
the queen, but but but I think that you know,
Nikki being the sort of Cardi B of her situation
with Kim has now. Really I think that Cardi b
reckoned as a cycle. Yeah, I'm glad. I mean I
really love Cardi. So I really really love Cardi and

(01:08:09):
I did see her shout out those female rappers I'm
curious because I know Megan and Nikki apparently are friendly,
and I've never seen like the Cardian Megan, Like, are
they cool or not cool? What's that interest? We're not
big uping, We're not big upping Megan. So I'm but
I am happy that Cardi is trying making some effort,

(01:08:29):
some some public effort to be supportive. Yeah, I think
Megan seems to not want to get in the fray
too much, just in terms of the beef of it all.
I feel like I feel like she, like saw the
Nikki thing is like a way too. I don't know,
it wasn't it's it's not transactional. I don't I don't

(01:08:49):
know what I'm saying. I'm just I just think that
Megan is like being very tactful and strategic about this
whole thing, and she she just seems like she's someone
who probably doesn't want to start too much craziness either around.
She hasn't even really begun yet. I mean, like it's
just now that the you know it, probably rap fans

(01:09:10):
haven'tone about her from for quite a while, but like
in terms of the general public, she's just now reaching
the surface of people really getting to know Megan the stallion,
and I feel like, you know, it's the fact that
she even has to like deal like with with people
waiting for the next big feud is like such a
shame to deal with that. Yeah yeah, yeah were you?

(01:09:35):
Were you a big Are you a big fan as
well of Megan? I do love Megan Big Old Freak
is like, it's a sample song. We know how I
feel about sample songs. Um and she she's got a
good flow, and I do I love Megan. And when
we met her at the show, she's cool, she's shows sweet.

(01:10:00):
But you know, Megan, this stuying. I was like, this
is in fact a stallion. When you that's a stallion,
that is that is a full woman. He was the
most beautiful person ever. And then I've never seen sam
J more into someone. Yeah, Sam Jay was like god, yeah,
sam J was on this show about to pop off

(01:10:20):
on Megan about Megan being like, this is the most
beautiful woman in the world. She could make you could
make you jump into very very dangerous oceans. Yeah, blazing fires,
blazing fires. Ago was I with you a good nights
when Chance hosted because I talked to Megan A good
nights I saw you talked to her. I think we

(01:10:43):
hugged and then maybe Megan came and you were like, okay,
fuck off, bitch, don't mean. And then he was like,
I'll see you on see you at the after party,
see it there. Maybe there, I have to let me
talk to him. But I did see you talk to
I think it was was it you and Chloe? Oh yeah, yeah,

(01:11:05):
it was me and Chloe and she was just like
we were like we're like we love you so much
and thank you for doing this. And she was like
I was watching from the dressing room and I was like,
that looks fun. I want to do that. But that's
how she No, that's not yet, Meg, I mean, but
it was kind of good. I was like that that feels.
I don't know the way shebbly voice, because you think

(01:11:28):
that sounded listening to her music, you would think her
voice is like deep and stallionesque, and and interviews she's
like very like bubbly and like bright. Yeah, she's right
and ubbly. And she had her southern twang too, you
know yeah Texas. And he was like, I was like,
what is she saying and he was like, well, she
was like this, Yeah, I want to do that, and

(01:11:49):
I'm like that your is that actually how she talks
exactly how this sus out. It's exactly how she fun big.
She she I just reasonally saw a video of her
talking about fighting, like girls fighting, and she was like

(01:12:10):
hell no, oh yeah, it was a pitchfork thing. Yes,
it's very funny. It was very funny, good free. She's like,
nails cost too much. It all is like that, okay,
But the three of us are also like, we're also
like Nikki, We're all I'm a I'm a bar I'm

(01:12:33):
a bar but Barb. I need Barb to be kinder
to Belle Cully's elements are, Yeah, I need Barbed to
be a little kinder because it's just not becoming to be.
But I don't know the deets, right, so like I
don't want to like chime in and be like this

(01:12:54):
is what you should be doing or how you should
be handling it, because I don't know what's going on
behind the storms. But anytime she goes on like Queen
Radio and just kind of like goes off, You're like this,
this feels this sounds chaotic because I think she and
the kind of what we have loved about her is

(01:13:14):
that she is this very like diffusely chaotic person, and
so you're just kind of like you can't really as
like as like a fan, I can't really latch on
anything she's saying. When she's like trying to like defend herself,
I'm like, Okay, but what what does this even mean?
I think she's confused about what people want from her.
And I also think that she pretends to be unbothered

(01:13:36):
when she's really kind of bothered. And I think that she, um,
you know, you've never really had to in the beginnings
of her career, her first several albums, you never really
had to worry about, like, um, her being on the
defensive because she always has seemed so invincible. And I
think that people just are not kind to women, and

(01:13:59):
especially Black women over time, especially when you do have
a shiny, new young thing, even though they are literally
so different, and I never think when I'm listening to
one comparing them to the other. It's just literally in
terms of content, it's different in terms of like style,
it's different delivery, it's different type of music, it's different background, influence,

(01:14:22):
all different. So for me, it's like I think that
it's a lot of the call is coming from inside
the house. The monster is within with her. Because you know,
the music didn't get worse. It's still good. I mean,
her albums are still good. And I think if there
if there's one thing that's not happening with Nikki, it's
that she doesn't really deliver you pop singles anymore. But

(01:14:45):
that's because everyone got at her for doing pop singles.
I mean, and like, it is so much more difficult
to be someone who's crossing over from rap because you
do the pop singles because you can do it. I mean,
she had bops on bops like super Base and Starships
and I mean, what have you Pound the Alarm? All
these songs that had amazing pop books, and she was

(01:15:08):
a very good pop star. But then people are so
much harder from her from by all angles because she
loses quote unquote credibility because she is who she is
at the end of the day. And I think she
has just gotten in her head to a point where
it's just like hopefully not the point of no return.
But you add Cardi in the mix there and it
was like just a bad mix of things for her. Yeah,

(01:15:30):
I think that's a great diagnosis. Actually, I'm like, you're like, yikes, yikes,
which is like not a pop but it's it's so good.
Could not stop playing it when I heard it. Um,
I do think that she she is trying to balance
like that street credit because she's feels she's trying to
hold onto that while maybe uh, Cardi b as kind

(01:15:54):
of taking grab of that. But there's but there's enough
to go around. We have hundreds of male rappers, um,
and I'm like, we can have hundreds of female rappers.
Let's do it. Let's you know, but absolutely, I mean, look,
it might not be like like all like Max Martin
sample like Max Martin produced ship, but it's still really good.

(01:16:18):
And I mean, the thing is to it, it really
does all can be boiled down to sexism. And unfortunately
she also fell into the wrong side of a like
sort of dichotomy, the trope, which is Cardia is a
nice person and Nikki is a mean person. And so
you have your good verse evil narrative. And you know

(01:16:39):
what I mean, people like whether or not it's true,
and you do hear things about like the way Nicky behaves,
but it's something that we all used to embrace her for.
And now because we have something else where, like, never mind,
she's mean and not a good person. Meanwhile, we used
to love when she would say bosst up. We used
to love when she would point out, like how people

(01:17:01):
in her industry behaved that way and look the other
way when there are men like we used to love
that about her, And I feel like people are now
conveniently deciding to move on. It's it's yeah, it's a
shame because she is the queen. Yeah, I gotta give her,
gotta give her her props. And no one's funnier either.
You said, no one's funnier, No one's funnier. So Nikki

(01:17:21):
that Anika. I think she's so funny to see see
this is where you lose me, Matt. I mean in
the I mean in the reps themselves. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Comedian because I think Cardi hilarious, is so fucking funny,

(01:17:45):
like I could name. When I first discovered her Instagram
years ago, I sat and I just I went down
a rabbit hole. I was like, everything is so funny.
And one that sticks out to me from the last
one year and a half, maybe even two year, is
at this point is her when people see her at Target.
Have you seen that vide where she's like, if you
see me at Target, like, don't come up to me,

(01:18:07):
yell like talking about what am I doing to Target?
The same thing you're doing stealing? You know that talk
show what it's called. It's called wash Poppingppy. She's going
to do it from her bed. Oh my god, perfect.

(01:18:28):
I love Literally if they're paying her a billion dollars
for that, I have a bed talking now, I feel
like Muscht change it. If Cardi is doing and talk
show from her bad I got to think of something now.
But Cardi is Cardi. There's so many queens in the queendom,
and there's several kings in the kingdom. There's a lot
of but not everybody is royalty. Sometimes friends will be like, girl,

(01:18:54):
you don't need him, you're the prize. Sometimes I hear
it with people and I go, she's you're a good friend. Actually,
you're a good friend. Actually actually actually, Now, all this
culture spilleth over and we are at that point where
we gotta do I don't think so, honey. Now, Ego

(01:19:18):
actually has graced us with her presence at our live shows,
and speaking of live shows, bitch, I feel like we
are itching and scratching to do another live show, but
you know, the quarantine makes it very difficult. I was
thinking about this poem, yes, about how I'm craving the
live experience. I was thinking about it before this, and like,
how fun that was a true blast. We might have

(01:19:42):
to do something virtual, and we might have to feature King.
We might have to feature I mean, King is willing,
and I feel like if you did something virtual, the
numbers would be popping. It's all And ultimately it's numbers
because numbers. Let me tell you something, people do things
virtually too little to say to a small audience. Okay,

(01:20:07):
and that's okay, that's fault. That's nobody's fault, because honestly,
my whole thing is if you were bringing joy to
one person, corny as it may be the job, you're
doing your job, so um, but this is one if
you were to do live, I do believe would be
people would be hungering. And I think we all have things,
even the quarantine souls of comedians are desperate to rant

(01:20:30):
about things right now. We are because I actually but
I got one. I had was like she had options, Okay,
I had a list Anny. Okay, King is the funniest
I gotta say that. Wait, hold on one thing that
King did. Speaking of quarantine content, the one of the

(01:20:50):
highlights of Quarantine so far from me has been when
King and Heidie Gardner did an Instagram live Home Shopping
Network bet and they were playing the two characters and
at one point this made me howl in my damn apartment.
At one point, Um, they're just they're dispandering in between
items products, and then Heidi's like, um, what was your

(01:21:11):
what was your characters name? Again? My character's name was
Justina Pinch Justina Justina. If you if you weren't working
on Home Shopping Network, what would you be doing? What
would your job be? And then who goes I would
be a thief. I would be a thief man. That

(01:21:32):
was fun. I would be a thief. That would be
a thief. Yes, I don't want to work. That's the reality.
You don't really want to work. King called in and
that was so fun. And I feel like more things
like that should happen. And what I predict will be
another eight weeks of quarantine. I had I have to

(01:21:56):
ask for your forgiveness because O King was really considering
leaving me or no, no, no, this is I'm gonna
like myself. King was considering leaving New York City in
the early weeks of quarantine, and and she was like
really stressing out, and she was like, I should go
to l A and be with myself. Is it okay,
I'm talking about this, Yes, this is great. Okay. She

(01:22:16):
was like, I should be with my sister. My sister
at the house in l A. I should go to
l A like this is the first week, and then
I and then how He's like, you know, I was
talking to go today and she's she's not sure what
to do. And I was like, okay. I was like, okay, cool,
well then I'll reach out and he and I basically
convinced you to stay in New York because I was like,
this won't go on for more than like two or three.

(01:22:39):
Oh my god, I blame myself. No, But King, heres
the thing? Do you blame you? No? King? The thing
is that, um uh, this was the right choice. I
did not think so like, no, it was. And I'm
not saying even saying that to make you feel better.
It is that it is the correct choice. I have

(01:23:00):
my own space and I am like, I'm not in
anyone's way. No one's in my way. I'm not sick
of anyone. I it's just me and and I have
all my stuff, so much stuff, and I was gonna
go to l A and like in a panic and
like packed, and my whole thing was like, I'm gonna pack.
Everyone's gonna be second home. Eventually LA is gonna get

(01:23:21):
locked down two. So I'm gonna pack five sweatshirts and
five pairs of pants and underwear and that's all I'll need.
I won't even make up. So that's what I was, like,
losing it met Do you understand I'm just gonna get
who wouldn't be? But like the idea that I thought,
like I was going to be content with five sweatshirts,
I like that was my plan because I had I

(01:23:43):
had it packed, I had booked a flight. I was like,
I was like, if I'm gonna go, I'll decide in
the morning on the day of the flight. And then
I and I was like, I haven't done anything. But
what will happen is once I do make up my
mind when I wake up, that's all I'll do. It
won't even require any thought. Five sweatshirts, five pants. You
go to l A, you're gonna be stuck in the
house anyway, So fucking glad I did not. Really, Yes,

(01:24:07):
I wish if I owned a house there. Personally, I'd
be like, absolutely I want to be because for space
and just air. But otherwise I'm like, yeah, there, and
I have found guys, this is maybe too much hard.
There is no right choice besides being like considered of
others and just staying the hell inside if you're not

(01:24:29):
a essential worker um and practicing physical distancing. There is
no right answer and nobody, no one knew where to
turn as far as like I can't go ask my
grandmother or my aunt, my great aunt or my honor
my mom because like you had this experience when you
were younger, because no, they didn't, like, no one knew,
No one could say to you, this is where you're

(01:24:49):
gonna feel more comfortable. It's such a like personal decision.
And similarly, someone else in our cast it called uh.
After I talked to bow in like a week and
a half later, I was like, what do I do?
Do I leave? Do I? Oh? Do I stay? And
I was like, I have found that it is I
know the I know what you're feeling and the desire
to call and ask people their opinions, and we want
someone to be able to tell us what to do,

(01:25:09):
but no one can and it's simply a personal decision.
So you know, I just think, like, ultimately what I
love hearing, and I do wake up every day and
try to look on the positive of this. I try
while I understand there's not anything that's inherently we're not
better off because of this. I I what I like
reminding myself is I actually am very thankful for that.

(01:25:33):
Every now and then we will get a positive news
article that's like, hey guys, it's working. The projections of
deaths across the country are way down from what they
were because of what we're doing. And I think that
people really respond to being told that what we're doing
is working, because I think that for so long there
it was just a lot of doom in gloom where

(01:25:53):
it's gonna be like it's gonna get worse, it's gonna
get worse and no one knows and Trump's an idiot
and etcetera, etcetera, where it really fell like a true
bottomless pit of despair. And what has really helped me
is seeing like, I will give my I will give
my props to Cuomo and say that he has been
very realistic and very even handed about the whole thing,

(01:26:14):
and very unemotional about the whole thing, and I have
really appreciated him being like, the social distancing is working.
If we keep going at this rate, we won't have
as calamitous a result as we may have, because I
think that we need hope, you know what I mean,
People need that. And I meant to do this on
the last episode, but I just want to say to
everyone that is listening to this podcast right now, and

(01:26:37):
I will get real. I understand that it is so
hard to be by yourself, and it is so difficult,
and a lot of people are not made for this,
to be by yourself all the time and to be
feeling like you lost your routine. A lot of people
they keep their sanity because of their routine. And I
just want everyone listening to this if you were having

(01:26:57):
a hard time, just give yourself a hug and tell
yourself it's gonna be okay. And if we could help
for even this ninety minutes that we're doing this, that rocks.
There's stuff that you can do just try to take
it day by day and give yourself a break and
eat that thing that you don't want to eat. And
if you feel like you're eating too many things you

(01:27:18):
don't want to eat, then don't. And just know that
we love you and it's it's gonna We're gonna get
to the end. Just stay doing the right thing. I
know it's hard, we all know it is so hard,
but keep your head up. It's not the end of
the world. It's really not. Yeah, And in a way
I mean that that that that's a really helpful way

(01:27:38):
of framing it, which is that like in some real
literal way, like, uh, people are alive who right now
who wouldn't be had we not change your behavior on
an individual level, And you're doing the truly the heroic
thing is to be staying home right now and doing
exactly what you're doing. And I just wanted to be

(01:28:00):
because a lot of people, you know, they've been reaching
out and I'm sure that you guys were reached out
to about the SNL episode that you did that meant
a lot to people. And I think that we need
to stay as connected as possible. So I know that
not everyone has a lot of social outlets and you're
having to stay home. My heart goes out to everyone,
and we are all in this together, babe and I.

(01:28:22):
We will get to the end. Winston Churchill drag. Yes,
I loved everything, and I co sign all of it.
We love that. At this time, it is time for
the Kings to actually do a royal version of I
don't think so. I don't think royal version. I can

(01:28:43):
go first. If bone will be so kind, I I
will let you go first. Okay, so this is Matt
Rodgers is royal. I don't think so, honey. As time
starts now, I don't think so honey. Zoom fuck this.
I look like ship on zoom. Every time I see
myself and the damn zoom, I feel bad that I'm
on for other people because I can't stop looking at

(01:29:03):
how shit ty I look. My face has looked never worse.
Whenever I'm looking down unto the zoom up into the zoom,
I have that thing under my chin like a frog.
And I don't think, so, honey, that I look like
that frog over there's actually think about that thought that
who over there? That frog over there is what I

(01:29:24):
look like, honey. I don't think so honey, zoom. I
have to be sitting around waiting for other people to
finish and then give ten minutes before I can respond.
I don't think so, honey. I'm someone who interacts quickly
and rapidity, and I actually have to say I don't
think so, honey, zoom, because we're on zoom for work
and I cannot stay focused and it makes me feel
like a bad worker. I don't think so, honey, zoom.

(01:29:44):
It's a bad name. Why then is it called zoom?
If I wanted to call something realistic and be I
don't think so, honey, zoom, you should call it doom.
And that's one minute. Thank you think so? Call it
doom instead of zoom. We should be calling especially culture
number twelve, they should call it zoom. Alright, yes, okay, okay,

(01:30:17):
I'm ready. Are you going to tip me? No? I
don't have my phone, you know, Okay, I'll time myself. Okay,
King is going to time me. King, King has the ability, Okay, okay,
and starts now. I don't think so, honey. People sending
me pictures of people who they think look like me,

(01:30:40):
it's always just another Asian person. Maybe he's wearing glasses
or they're tagging their fucking friends in the comments, and
they're like, reminds me if I thought this was at
Sheldon Park, Like, who stop it? Like and then we
and then you're annoying me, and you're annoying the person

(01:31:01):
who gets Tatoo's probably like, I actually don't look anything
like that person either, Like, do not create this thing
where you're like trying to graft on resemblance onto these
two people who don't look alike. Girl. If I was
tagging some some strain, if I was tagging this Matt
Rodgers too. Every time I saw a photo of average,
he would he would call off the damn friendship. He

(01:31:23):
would say, I don't look like Jake Sully, bitch, and
then he would slap me across the damn face the
next time he saw it after we got out of quarantine.
So I don't think so when he stopped deting me,
me me photos of people who look like me. And
that's why. Man. The thing is, I do look like
Jake Sully when he becomes an avatar, but I do
not look like Sam Worthington, which has been I think
you look like the like the you know, like the

(01:31:45):
from the Gorilla from not the girl of the chimp
to the human you look like in the middle zone
there between Sam Worthington and Jake Sully and and the
and that's good and that's not a bad place to be,
a king, not a bad place to be between Sam
Worthington and what her other thing in the Navy and
the um I see you, I see you. To borrow

(01:32:07):
a word from the language and from Miss Leona Lewis
and of course Ms Joey Zoey Sell Donna herself for
a moment there, Leona Lewis was set up to be
the next Lean Dion. When they made her sing that song,
I was like, Oh, she's gonna be She's gonna be
a huge Selene. You couldn't tell them she wasn't the
next Lene. And then when she was with her girl

(01:32:28):
she was in Cats a few years ago on Broadway
and then Radio silence deserves. Does she did she think
to herself? Did she do it to herself? That's what
you have to ask that this sounds like a lot
of victim blaming and hearing and we're back and this
is a callback, and this is a call back, And
all I can say is bleeding love was the bop

(01:32:49):
of the time. It really was. And then I don't
know what happened after that, you had the monster hit
and then goodbye Leona. Well, I think there's still like
but I'll tell you who we say hello to? King. Okay, Kan,
I don't think so, honey, all time, her time starts now.

(01:33:10):
I don't think so, honey. People texting me and emailing me.
It looks so crazy in New York. Here, I'm leaving it.
I was having a nice day until you sent me
that message and reminded me of the impending doom that
lay outside my door. Yourself, Okay, if you want to

(01:33:30):
ask me how I'm doing, ask me how I'm doing.
If you want to send me well wishes, that is
totally welcome. But you being like it's scary in New York.
I'm worried about you in New York. No, bitch, I
do not think so, honey. Don't think so. You're trying
to bring your emotions and making them my responsibility in
my kitchen cooking biscuits, and you text me some bullshit
about what's scary it is. We know it's scary, but honey,

(01:33:52):
I'm inside like my ass is supposed to be doing,
trying to keep my head on straight, and you bring
in bullshit to my front. I don't think so, honey.
Stop telling me it's crazy and York. I am physically here,
I am safe, I am well, I am inside. Keep
that energy to your damn self. I don't think so, honey.
And that's one very well done and topical like my asses,

(01:34:19):
cooking biscuits, cooking biscuits. What's next on the biscuits and buttermel? Okay,
So tonight, I'm not even gonna make biscuits because I
made those Cheddar bacon Cheddar hallepeeno biscuits that were the
motherfucking truth. I have one left. I ate five yesterday
in one sitting. I ate three today because papusays were
a flop. So I'm gonna make an olive oil cake tonight.

(01:34:43):
Chocolate tonight. Wait, I gotta do a real of culture.
It's it's real culture number six. My papusa. My papusas
were absolute flop. I don't about the statement about it.
I said, wow, to think this is actually it's a
simple rest, but it is a hard to make it delicious.
The funniest thing in the world to me is calling

(01:35:05):
something a flop. I don't know why. It's so funny,
Like like it's like someone will text me like and
be shady and be like, look at this flop. Gay.
Just feel like screenshot of someone's in stuff. I think
it's so funny. I fall out every time, and it's
the best way to describe it. Been here I will.
I mean, I'm tempted to show you, guys, show us

(01:35:27):
the flop. Let me show you the bring the flop
over to dry. I'm seeing all up to be like,
where does the flavor come into play? Where where does
this start? Podcast on a visual medium? And she just
showed us a plate of flops. I'm serving up play

(01:35:48):
the flaps over here. I said, this is the lowest
I've felt in my quarantine. So tonight we're making olive
oilcake because I can't I've never done it. But it's
gonna be a citrus all of oilcake. I don't think
I can sunk that up. I feel fairly, I feel
fairly confident about my baking. So yeah, I feel good
about what's going to go down tonight. And it's designed

(01:36:09):
to be easy and like not like boys, I mean,
spreaking olive oil is literally and it's going to be good.
I think, yeah, it's a cake Yeah, I really been
behind on the baking. It's a cake walk baking. Yes, yes,
but you know what, fuck no shape, king, Matt. If
you're making bread, but what are we making bread? I'm

(01:36:30):
not one of these white gays out here and making bread. Okay,
so you're a real one, then he's a Really that's
the moment I foun out Matt Rodgers is in fact
a real one. I understand the bread thing. I'm like,
there are so many other things you could make that
will be satisfying and soothing and and somehow a release
for you, cathartic if you will, that aren't bread, because

(01:36:52):
bread is so I don't get it. Bread don't exactly
there's no novelty to the your spending a lot of time,
and I appreciate the process of it, but once it
comes out, no matter how good it tastes, it's not
gonna feel new. I don't know. Maybe I mean it's delicious.
That's why. That's when people like I love bread. I'm

(01:37:14):
a bread head. I'm like, bread is not delicious. Like
bread's cool? Girl. If you say your favorite food is bread,
I don't think so, honey. You need to get a
new palette. We need to do a group. I don't
think so, honey. And I think you might be very sick.
You might be very, very very sick. You might be

(01:37:35):
very sick with a disease. You might be ill. You
might need to go to the hospital. Post taste, yes,
because post taste is another thing. Post taste, let's say
post taste. Like whenever something these happens, you just say
pose taste. I'm gonna I'm gonna take that from you, man.
I'm glad we're on the same page about the bread.

(01:37:56):
That's what we're gonna make, some olive oil cake. I'll
let you guys know how it goes. Please, And I
think it's gonna go well, because I think there is
not a thing that you could touch that would not
turn to gold. But have you seen this papoosa? Besides,
we can move on from the papoosa's and and go forward.

(01:38:18):
Now we're trying to shake out what to do with
the papoosa scraps and how to not throw that all away.
There's no there's no dog or animal in the house
right there. That's actually good. I wish I wish I
could help with the flop and eat it and not
good like it just is like tasteless fop. Well is

(01:38:39):
he pretending he's like I would eat it because King
is my friend and I want to help the flop. Yeah,
but you have to be truthful to the friend of King.
And I really fift it as the Whites would say,
fift it. So this episode was King. That's why it's
called This is King, and I have to say it's

(01:39:00):
a to be continued because there's gonna be many more
episodes with King, because it was just I feel that,
while it was a very full, complete episode, that we've
really breached the surface of what the three of us
King can do together, truly and no, it's kin. I
caught that and I loved it. The three of us

(01:39:22):
King have to when King gets together. It's a real
I am obsessed in l A. I have house, so
and so my very dear friend and now Bowen's very
dear friend, Patrick Rogers. We share the last name, and
so we say we are a house. We are of house.

(01:39:42):
Were of house to send handmates to very handmaids tale, Yes,
but this is a whole new thing, This is King.
And when when one of us does something that is King,
we recognize that by saying that was very King. This
is I shook, and I look forward to using the terminology.

(01:40:04):
That's all I have to say about that one. I'm
gonna say King on that one's going to have to say.
I'm gonna have to crown that one now when King
gets together again, I can't wait for the day. Me neither.
I truly can't wait for the day. But for now,
we have to say, this was an unbelievable episode and
we want to thank EGO for being on. We love

(01:40:25):
you so much. Thank you, guys, I love you King.
It was an absolute pleasure and a highlight of my
day and perhaps my team. And this is my ye.
But Bowen, you know that you know that what we do.
One of the things that we do on this episode,
on this really on this podcast, is we end every

(01:40:45):
episode with a song. Yes we do, and I know
just the song to close out on Hey stranger over there,
I'm really like better it always so sorry, I'm sorry, sorry,

(01:41:08):
bye bye.

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