December 19, 2025 • 39 mins
Flame Monroe and Bobbi Clifford discuss a range of topics from personal experiences to significant societal issues. They reflect on recent losses in the entertainment industry, delve into tragic events that highlight mental health concerns, and provide commentary on political reactions to these events. The conversation also touches on the implications of violence in society, economic discussions, the ongoing intrigue surrounding the Epstein files and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We were.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
If you watch your coffee time the baby you know
the name Flame, my bro also known as my ro Flame.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Come in with last and come in with him love lambs. Baby,
you better catch it when you can drop a knowledge
from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homage.
What's up? Tips? Yeah? You know she raised shot towns
on speaking to the grown a second year. We're gonna
last to cut him and kick it and at the
end we leave it with just a lift of spirits.
But you want to revisit so your first second listen,
(01:08):
you folks are your slip old folks that we did
it good? Hey, no, do what you do? I know,
peas do what you do?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Hey, No, pleas do what I do?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And no.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Week.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian Same Monroe and welcome
to this week's episode of Laughing Learned Ladies makes a
Noise with my co host Bobby Clifford. Thank you guys
for joining us here this week. It's been quite an
interesting week. How was your week, Bobby Clifford? Because it's
called over there in Boston.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's cold where we're hitting a little bit of a
reprieve today it was in the forties always ready to
get my two piece out and run around neighborhood, but
it has been freezing. This was a heavy week about
everything that we're going to discuss today, So I can't.
I wish I could say that they were fun or
but we've we've had a lot of a lot of stuff,
a lot of a lot of violence over this past week.
(02:16):
That is, I have a very heavy heart right now.
I have to be honest. I'm assuming you're the same.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Uh. Well, before I get to my heavy heart, I
just want to talk about it has not been kodo
here now. I was in Chicago last couple of days cold,
and then I went to New Orleans for the weekend
and it wasn't it was. It was a little chill
for the pad. The pageant was highly successful with the
Queen and King pageant. So was the Gospel Battle and
the Transman Battle. Shout out to the winners, which we
(02:43):
it's area Sinclair for the Gospel Battle and to mister
Ashton from Dallas for the Transman Battle. I had a
great weekend. Byby that I came home. I got a
new project coming up, I think, and I'm excited about it.
But with all of that, it's warming California, So I'm
for everybody else who got the cold. And then Boston
(03:04):
y'all got that white people cold like Minnesota. That's in Canada.
That's that white people called that ain't regular cold, that's
that white people called white people called hit different.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
It does. I think that it's all of our weather
lately has been from Canada. I think they're trying to
get back for the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Their cold hit different. No, thank you, I'm not pretty
to any of that. But we have had a couple
of losses during the week that we were that we
were going last week as ladies gymman. Yesterday we lost.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Who do we lose? Body?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
We lost? I think it was two days ago Anthony
Geary Luke from from.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
General Hospital, and I'm telling you looking at me about
to tell my age. When we were young and General
it was on Luke and Laura was like the couple
for all the soap operas. So when they had the wedding,
I'm telling you, ABC built it up and they milked it,
and it was to me, being an American, it was
as big as Princess Diana's waiting to Prince Charles.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That's what they like him. It too.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I mean they really didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, it was so beautiful and Luca Laurie, they just
had like the p they had been through all the
rocky roads and up and down on the soap opera
and it was just really a beautiful wedding.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It was a beautiful memory. So I'm glad. I'm for
rest in peace. Anthony here. He was such a great actor.
He was on that soap opera for good God, six fifty.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Years a bazilion. That's where I got my I was
just telling you before the show my nickname. He had
a sister. His big sister was Bobby and her first
name was Barbara Jean, like mine. So they used to
call me BJ before that, and all the boys put
picked on me.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That ain't what BJ stood for anywhere, so they yes,
you did. Well.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I didn't know it until that they had to describe
it to me. Jesus, I almost said, I almost had
to get the paddles to get me awake, my poor
little twelve year old is. But then they started calling
me Bobby, and that's where I got my nickname. So
poor Anthony Gary, I think I don't know if it
was prostate cancer. Poor guy. I mean he lived a life.
But I hate to see anybody, you know, anybody you
(05:13):
know go, although he went surrounded by family and all
of that. If you had, if you have to leave,
it was the opposite of the next death that we're
going to discuss. Uh, you know, he left, He left
in an honorable way. The next one, go ahead with
that because my heart is just I'm sick over it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
So a wow. And let me tell you why Rob Reiner.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Means so much to me, because you know, I tell
the story all the time about All in the Family
and what the character's name, Beverly Lassell, and it did
to me when she died, Rob Brianer was with her
and she was defending his life, which is how she
lost her life in the show. On the episode of
But Rob Brander, who played Mike Stivick, me he Mike
Stivick or all in the Family for years was him
(06:01):
and his wife Michelle were tragically killed, unfortunately by their
own son who suffered from mental illness, who suffered from
drug abuse and all that and all these excuses and
what everybody's saying, they were wonderful parents and we will
it hurts so bad to hear that that you go
all out for your kids. You do everything you can
for your kid, and for your kid to betray you
(06:22):
in such a way. Now we don't know whether it
was mental illness. None of us will ever know just
the people that were involved. But it's still sad to
hear when a kid kills their parents. That is just
tragic to me. It's hard to find sympathy as a parent.
It is hard to find sympathy in that to me,
because life is choices and the same way you chose
(06:43):
to walk in in and stay up, both of your
parents are there. You could have also chose to call
somebody or go somewhere, or call the police and say
you can't handle what is happening in your life.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
But you didn't, so it's you know, mental illness.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's not that I'm not sympathetic towards this situation, but
part of me is just not sympathetic towards the situation.
And you are entitled kid. Your parents have been rich
since your inception, so you know what I mean by it.
It's hard for me to say you weren't hungry, you
weren't homeless, you weren't this, and you weren't that. Not
if you have play a part in that on your own.
(07:19):
But it's so tragic that I'm not trying to reason
the reasons why. The reason not because unfortunately two people
are dead and one person's life is going to squalor
because even though the parents.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Are both deceased now the son is probably going to
be put in a mental institution, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
For the rest of his life, which is where you
should be.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, they're talking about the death penalty here in California too,
that is on the table.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think of.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I also think of the siblings, you know, the sister
who lives across the street, who found them when you know,
the parents didn't call for a brunch or whatever they
usually did. They were going to meet up with the
Obamas later that day. I don't know if it was
for drinks or for dinner or you know. Maria Shriver,
they were her best friends. They had so many people
(08:08):
come forward, everybody the glory and this is the next
piece that we'll talk about the wonderful things that everybody
said about them, because he lived a rich, full life,
the two of them did. She was a photographer, he
was an actor, director, producer, and most importantly they were activists.
They were. They believed in the country, They believed in
(08:29):
the good of people, even in the mess that it
is now. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago.
He came forward and say, this is we can turn
it all around everything that we've been saying. You just
got to vote, You've gotta if you're unhappy, these are
the things you need to do. And he put his
literally his money and his time where his mouth was.
And then here person in the highest position that we
(08:54):
have in this country. I don't even want to give
him a name, say come out on Trousseau was such
a heinous and horrific post about them and how they
had Trump Trump derangements at syndrome. He referred to himself.
Trump says he doesn't think that they were good for
(09:14):
the country, and like, that's me calling well, Bobby says
that they're not. You're referring to your yourself and the
third person. I think if there's any derangement he should do,
he should look at a Mira. I mean, that was
so disappointing. And you and I have spoken about this.
The fissures were seeing them. A lot of people have
(09:35):
come out about what he was saying and they're disgusted.
John Kennedy, who's usually up his wazoo, David Urban, James
Woods is always on Fox, and he came out. They
have those panels on the end of shows, and there
was one on I caught the end, but they didn't
have their their names posted. But they were not pleased.
Tom Massey, Marjorie Taylor Green, who would think she'd be
(09:58):
the voice of reason all coming out against how despicable
what he said was, especially for the highest position in
the land and the most powerful person.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know why, Bobby it to me because now they
realize that nothing or no one is off limits. So
if he could be so disgusting about somebody who's not
even a politician, who just had a large voice to
speak against this presidency, because they all get spoken against.
Nobody will ever please everybody. But they realize now that
you know what he did, this to him, he would
(10:29):
damn show come after us. And I think people's humanity
might be starting to settle in. But it's very true, Bobby,
if we can have a blue wave again like we
had November fourth, and if we could some of these
seats like we flipped those seats in Philadelphia, was that
thirty years was that Philadelphia Main?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Where was that at?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Why the sea? After thirty years? Arizona? Arizona? We could
We have the power within us. We have what it takes.
We just have to stick together in order to do it.
And I'm not surprised by anything he says, Bobby, you know,
some of these things, I'm starting to actually think I
feel that way. I think he feels that way, but
(11:06):
I think he says those things to get his base
rallied up and fight up, because there's probably are things
that they are thinking, so he just says them out loud,
which is how he wanted me. Because again we had
an episode of a year and a half ago of
he is exactly who they are. They are exactly They
are all the same people. They are exactly who he is,
and he's just their leader because they are all the
(11:26):
same person. But that was very tragic, and as a parent,
you know, it's hard to fathom to think that you
have loved your child and nurture your child and respected
your child and taught your child and did everything you
could and for your child to murder you. You know,
I just hope and pray that they were asleep so
they didn't even know it was coming. I hope that
(11:48):
it was just a one blow and it was out
because you had to do this twice. But for both
your parents, it's kind of like the Minanza's brothers. You
had time to think about the second one, even though
you made a grave mistake the first. You had the
time to think about Zega, and you still pursued it. Bobby,
I just I cannot find any sympathy in that. Especially
it'd be different if your parents don't molesting you or
(12:10):
selling you out.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Or you know what I mean, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But from what everyone is saying, because we weren't there,
we don't know the inside story. But from all the
beautiful stories coming from so many people, from a celebrity
to the common man that had interaction with Rob Reiner,
they all saying that him and his wife were great parents.
And we know how hard it is to be a
great parent, especially in this climate shit with the challenge
(12:34):
is every day every day.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It's true, though it's not. Yeah, I just the president
could have brought the country together because this is on
the heels of and we'll get into it in a moment,
shooting and Brown and the shooting. You know, we were
in complete and utter turmoil over the weekend, and instead
of making us feel better, he was divisive. And it's
(12:59):
funny he has this new he's I think he's calling
it the Hall of Fame. It's the Walk of shame.
On the colonnade. He put all of the president's pictures
up and he wrote, he put a bronze plaque underneath them.
He wrote the garbage that went underneath, and I just
looked at poor Barack Obama had two under his and
(13:22):
they were scathing. I just I can't even believe this
is on the outside of the of the White House,
that somebody is allowing him. I'm like, I wish somebody
would sue him for defamation, like it's just it's it's you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I think it is horrible that he has been allowed
to do that, but I think it speaks volumes on
the jealousy and the envy that he has for the
people that love President Obama in this country. And this
comes from all sides, all spectrums, all different parties. People
(13:58):
love President Obama, and I think he wishes that he
had just that. But they don't love him. They may
fear him because there is no respect. There is fear,
and there is pity, but there is definitely that love.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
No, he doesn't. But you can't move in two different ways.
You can't watch a loved president. And of course Sleepy
Joe's was just a scathing. You can't be somebody that
has compassion empathy be a president who moves like that,
(14:35):
and then and you don't and people love you for
it and think you're going to get the same love
that the other presidents. It's just it's it's again, it's
beneath what his position should be or what his status
should be. Why are you that insecure you know that
that you've got these? Can you imagine if I don't
even know if heads of state go through the colonnade,
(14:57):
but if they do, they're going to read these. They're
not even factual. They're they're not even is the.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Other the other Robby Bobby, Why are you surprised with that?
Is anything that he has seen during his campaign or
his presidency factual?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, when we can talk about that in a few minutes,
when we get to his address that that was on Wednesday,
Uh no, but you would think, okay, so have that
on the inside in the in your residence. But to
put it on the outside of the people's house building.
It should be there should be anything that goes up
(15:34):
should be factual, you know it. You shouldn't be allowed
to say the recession was the worst, and this was
the worst. Things that in the Affordable Care Act was
was was the worst because it wasn't necessarily the worst.
It wasn't exact a perfect No. President Obama said that
(15:54):
back when when they put it in place, But it
was the best that they could do bipartisan. He said,
everybody needs to work out the kinks. Now it's up
to the Congress to work out all the kings. Well,
nobody ever worked out the kings. But and now he's
talking about President Trump. He got the Kennedy Center board
who represents the memorial to John F. Kennedy. That's what
(16:17):
the Kennedy Center is. It's a memorial like the Lincoln
Monument is, you know, Lincoln's memorial, Lincoln's memorial. And they're
now going to call it the Trump Kennedy Center.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Or a man who wouldn't serve in the military coause
here at Bonespurst, can we rename it the Bones Purst Center.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And the other one would have broken back and swam
six miles with his men in a boat, holding the
boat rope with his teeth in wo oh. I mean,
you've got to be God bless. That's brave, but that's
a patriot.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, before we go into further we're gonna take a
quick commercial break. Unfortunately, Bobby, though, what we need to talk,
what we can talk about, is these all of these
boat strikes that's happening over and I'm telling you, Bobby,
ever since they have dangled the apple in front of
Trump's face about if we're in a war, there will
(17:19):
be no election, so we whether however it's going to
go down come the primaries. I think he's trying to
find the way that we don't have a primary, that
he could just continue to stay at office, which allegedly
would be him with us getting into some kind of
war with another country for whatever the reason may be.
(17:40):
But I really don't want us attacking I really don't
want us attacking an innocent country over bs just so
this man can stay in office. But hit me when
I tell you, according to that video that that audio
tape that came out two weeks ago, when he says,
I don't care what you have to do start a war.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Whatever. If I go down, everybody's going down with me.
That was not a That is how he really feels.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
So the country will become collateral damage just so he
can remain the president of these United States. And I said,
the country, not black folks and not yet Latino folks,
not immigrants, not not poor, the country, and war affects everybody,
the rich as well, because you're gonna lose your livelihood too.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Well, it's supposedly all our drugs. We know it's not
drugs because he looked just really released like a kingpin,
a drug kingpin in endoras you know the ex president.
It's to force a regime change, which I don't know how.
You know it's going to benefit him somehow, but that's
not the way to do it. I have not read
the Vanity Fair article where his chief of staff comes out,
(18:40):
comes out, and she's just honest about him. She doesn't
even come out against against. My guess is that she's
going to be leaving her position and she wants to
go on the record before she does. But she I
think she she confirmed in that article about what the
boat the boat strikes were for. She said that President
Trump has the the ideology of a of an alcoholic
(19:02):
where they think they can do everything and they're never
wrong and there and I thought, ooh, she said JD
Vance was a conspiracy Yeah, conspiracist, I thought. Interest But
they still love her.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
The Press secretary came out and said, Nope, that was
just bad, bad journalism. And he has it all on
like tape. So you know that he's They're probably gonna say,
that's ai right, she's not demanded.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well, that's the reason that he wins because his base
is eager. Don't rebelieve anything that they hear, especially coming
out of Carolina Levis's face or Trump's mouth. So you know,
we don't. Again, we've said this on this show numerous
the times. Give him a microphone for three or four minutes,
stop the monitor, and you will meet the real devil.
You will meet the damons. You will you because he
(19:54):
gonna go loose.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be flame. Doesn't necessarily
mean a microphone, just anywhere, his his his truth social
you know, give him two minutes where he's by himself
and he can just kind of go ham and talk
about himself. Again. Go back to Rob Reiner and his wife,
who in the world makes a tragedy into something political,
(20:17):
It doesn't. It just doesn't make sense to me. I
don't understand it. I don't know how you could be
so small minded. But again, he's he's going to force
these fissures and within his own party, so you know,
I don't think it's I think the only thing that's
going to do is help the Democrats during midterm. So
he somebody better rein him in and uh and let
(20:38):
him know it's not working the way that you actually
think it's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, we are. And such a christis one. We're in.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Such a christis Boby right now. But let's move on.
Let's move on. Let's move on.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Bobby Clifford, Well, what do you want do you want
to do? Talk about?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I would like to I would like to talk about
the beloved country of Ukraine. We respect, we respect you
over here, and we thank you for fighting a good
fight for your country.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I know it's not over with you.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It just looks so ugly, and I hate that Joe
Biden is not the president anymore because he was damn
sure giving assistance to you and your country over there,
fighting to save y'all own and we would hope that
we could have that. But this president that we have
seemed to be alienating a lot of our allies. So
it's getting really really skitchy.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Bobby.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Meanwhile, he is sugarcoating and distracting everybody with the promises
of these blue leg two thousand dollars checks that's supposed
to be coming.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Wait for it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Keep checking your mailbox every day. Christmas will come and go,
and Santa will not deliver it in your box. Say
here with your chimney. He ain't gonna make it to
your mailbox. I don't believe it, Bobby.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And first of all, I'd like that during his speech
he's said that he was he was giving there was
seventeen hundred and something some probably some good number for
him what he plays in the lottery. He was he
wanted to give the.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It is seventeen seventy six, the year of independence, supposedly.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Is that what it is? That what I do? It
was seventeen something. I can see it now. Yeah, the
Christmas checks. I'll be interested to see if it comes forward.
Supposedly it's coming forward from the tariffs and from I
haven't heard from anybody that the tariffs are actually working
the way that they're supposed to be working, and it
would be too soon anyway. And you were supposed to
take that money, and you were supposed to pay down
(22:38):
the deficit, that was the whole point of it. Well,
you're not putting down the deficit. You're sending out checks. Now.
I know they're well needed and these people had to
wait for money, and et cetera, et cetera, But I
don't I hope everybody is smart enough to know there's
only no two K check coming your way. You know
we're lucky enough for the military. Get it.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, Christmas, are you expecting the barrageuse twenty twenty six,
twenty eight, thirty five, seventy nine. I understand that if
you do get a tariff chick, if you do get
one of these checks, they're going to get them.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
They're going to get the money back on your income taxes.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't think y'all paid attention to the last time
when y'all got those so called stimulus checks. They retext
you at a tax time, So you're borrowing against or
you being loan money that you didn't ask to borrow
against your own money that you don't have yet. But
it's coming, and I'm sure they'll find a way to
take just a tad bit more of what you were
supposed to be getting because they helped you out for
a loan that you didn't even ask for.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Just pay attention, y'all. Just pay attention. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I mean it's it's again. If our deficits going up,
and it's going to go, it's not helping anybody.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Paying down the deficit like you said, would actually would
actually help. But he's not gonna he's not going to
do it. I'm telling you the story.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well it needs you to as long as yourn got
the oranges, we okay. I want to address the subject
that I see happened today. So that was a trans woman.
I'm not sure if her age in Flint, Michigan, Bobby
and on Live. So she was let me let me
give you this synopsis of the story. She was dating
a guy, a biological male. She was a trans woman.
(24:22):
She was dad biological mail, and the biological mail apparently
had met a hookup on one of the dating apps,
which was a trans man. So so this was biologically
a woman, but he lived his life as a man,
so he looked like him and everything. But he told
the girlfriend the boy the guy told the girlfriend that
that was his weed hookup. Come to find out that
(24:43):
the transman on the hookup and the boyfriend was hooking up.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But it wasn't for no damn weed.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It was for other things, extracurricular activities and the sexual nature.
So the transman supposedly sent the text message to the
boyfriend to say, hey, let's share some poppers, which is
head rush. For some strange reason, the boyfriend drank the
poppers and die. With poppers, you're supposed to sniff, not
drink and die. And so the girlfriend was furious about it.
(25:11):
She made apparently made a fake account to hook up
with the trans man. He showed up the house and
on lab on video she killed him. She sliced them
up and killed them, stabbed them up, come beheaded him.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And as a trans.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Person in this country, Bobby, when I say we have
to do things to defend ourselves because we have been
putting such a precarious position because they deem us mentally ill, well,
what else does that look like that you would videotape
that and put that out from the public consumption to see.
But mental illness and is that not only did she
do a disservice to herself and the two young men involved,
(25:47):
now she did a disservice to the trans community because
you're president. Last night on his address in the Nation,
transgender was all over his common topic of conversation, deeming
us mentally ill.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And then you come and do this, Bobby. This makes
it so scared for me.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm like, God, damn, I got to give me a
job and just going to head because I don't know
how to receive.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
This, Bobby. And then they it's almost like they do
this stuff to be celebrating. You video taste stuff like that.
So that's premeditating because you had your camera going so
you knew what you were going to do. You had
an audience to watch it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I still think, I mean, trends has nothing to do
with mental illness. Is mental illness everybody, every every race,
uh denomination, sex. It doesn't make a difference a sexual preference.
There's nothing mental illness. I'll find. You got to be premeditated.
(26:40):
I mean they had to have flipped a flipped to
like their lid. We just had Brian Walsh, who on
New Year's Day caught up his wife supposely she found
her dead in bed, although he got rid of her
clothing and everything and did the same thing, bought hack
saws and everything. And I'm only mentioning it because it
literally they just sentenced him today. I can't imagine. Can
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you imagine taking somebody that you supposedly loved at some
point and cutting them up in pieces like they're like
a cow carcass. That's mental illness.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The transman. The trans man was somebody she loved. The
boyfriend was somebody she loved, but he drank the poppers
and died, so she was on some revenge. She okay, yeah,
she was on revenge because no, no, no, she cut
(27:38):
off the connect because the connect and the boyfriend was
hooking up. And I'm like, well, what would make him
drink poppers? The smell alone is powerful. You damn show
how you get that down your throat. So I'm thinking
that he might have already been on some other substance
because I just cannot imagine you drink.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Have you ever a smell poppers? Bobby?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It is a head cleaner that a.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Lot of people using sexual capacities because it opens up
your I think it loosens the anal and it doesn't camera,
but it's a it's maybe a thirty forty second high.
You sniff it and you feel youphoria for thirty forty seconds,
but the smell is really strong, something like I'm I'm
not understanding how he could possibly have drank that and
(28:25):
that he was under some kind of other influence because
it's yeah, it just didn't work. But for her to
do this on lab and I'm telling you he run
around here demon us mentally ill. That again, that looks
mentally ill. And I hate to say that, Bobby Beck,
but it does because and premanitated you videotaping. You knew
what you were going to do when that person got
(28:45):
and then you get on camera and you admit to
it all. So I ain't gonna fit pleading not guilty
when you didn't told on your damn self.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Remind me not the rober Bank. But you, good god, I.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Can't even I just don't understand that the violence, the
just the violence, you know, I don't get it. I mean,
that is that is brutal. I'm thinking again, I think
of the Rhiners and how they died. We had Bondai
Beach and Australia and celebrating the first day of Hanukkah
and a father son team taking them out by long gun.
(29:18):
And then we have Brown University finishing up. Imagine that.
I can't even imagine the money. You know, Ivy League school,
that you're sending your kid off to school, waiting for
them to come home because Christmas time, and they're finishing
their final and he he shoots because it looks like
it's a male. Uh kills two and I think there
(29:39):
were nine others that were that were injured. I mean,
we're just getting more and more and more violent. I
just don't Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, it's great because I think I think the pandemic
brought out the worst and a lot of us.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Let me say this, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
As far as the Epstein files go, so more photos
from the Epstein's files has been released from the Estate.
Democrats on the House Oversight Committee release photos from Jeffrey
Epstein to State Thursday this past Thursday, the latest and
a series of intermittent disclosures that have few significant political
intrigue in recent weeks about who may have been associated
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with the convicted sex offender. Five photographs were released without
additional contents by a member of the panel, which includes
a Ukrainian passport with a female notation. Philosopher Noam Chomsky
on a plane with Epstein and Bill Gates posing for
a photograph with a woman whose face was redacted by
the Democrats on the paddel. I understand that some of
the Democrats are on there. But even though the Democrats
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ain't well who we're after, Bobby, if we got to
get one, we got to get them off.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
If we're going to get the big one, we got
to get the all. And I'm sure there's a lot
of all that we may like. That's probably a lot
of all that we like. But fucking the key is
fucking the key that it is wrong, and now we're
going to like that.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
No, I think absolutely No, I don't care. I don't care.
It doesn't make a difference to me. A Democrat or
Republican or independent or whatever the hell you say you are.
I don't care. If you were wrong, you were wrong.
But a lot of these pictures, it seems like they're
not releasing flame, anything that's new, anything that's wetting our whistle.
They're all everything that everybody that were in those pictures
have already already disclosed. You know, where is the meat
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we were going to remember, we were gonna Bondie had,
and of course that Susie Wiles said that she handled
it completely wrong. We were going to see see their list,
we were going to see all these salacious pictures and
all the salacious information. It's all a bunch of beloney
and none of it, none of it existed. That said,
(31:49):
I just release what we have and let's move on.
I'm so sick of talking about the Epstein files and
the fact that we're still discussing it. It's not resolved,
and these people don't have any closure. I'm just I'm
over it. I really am.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
I'm over it.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, you know Bobby, But again, at this point, I
think they can release a video of him in the
most offensive position with a kid in the world, and
it's not going to make a difference to his base
because he has gotten them so charmed, like the pied piper.
They are hooked, bought, and sew for whatever his antics are,
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even when it's detrimental to them. So I don't know
what it is, but whatever it is, I need four
gallons fleets.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
No, yeah, no, I think you're exactly. You know, he
could walk down Wall Street and take everybody out or
whatever whatever that stupid expression he was talking about. I
think with his specific base. But I'm telling you, I
am seeing small fissures in places that he's turning people off.
And I think I go back to you saying, you know,
give him a microphone. Just he's going to talk himself
(33:04):
out of some of this crazy, you know, with the
Trump Kennedy Center, and because now he doesn't realize somebody
can come in and wipe him out. Whatever memorial they have,
they can, they can put their name on it, like
it's it's all such bad form. I just the only
thing I'm very interested. So for the ACA for four,
(33:27):
Republicans came over to the Democrat side and they agreed
to extend the subsidies. But I believe it's going to
come across his desk. He has to be willing to
sign it. Is he going to.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I don't know. I do believe, Bobby there was just
what you just said. What you I believe what you
just said to be very true.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
The next president coming behind him, even if it's the Republican,
we'll remove all of that ship because it will lead
such horrible.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Memories for our country because.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Whatever whatever he has been, and they think that they
got to, he has left such a disdain and such
a nasty taste, not only just in our country, he said,
and doing his speech yesterday, he said that they were
all laughing at us.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
They're laughing even louder now.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Then tell you this, And he is an imbecile if
he thinks they're not laughing at us, they're laughing at him.
You know that they well know, yeah, it's it's the
crazy stupid stuff he in that address. And I have
to be honest. I have, And it's just his way.
(34:32):
He turns me on, like if he was a wonderful president,
like did everything that was even good for the people,
just the way he speaks, just way before. I couldn't
watch I couldn't watch the Apprentice. He turns me off.
So I taped it. I devauted whatever I major myself
by saying taped, and I had to listen to it
in small and small spaces. The incorrection of everything, and
(34:58):
in the your docing was crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
He secured the border, well, he did secure the border.
Be happy with that. There were eleven million people they
were talking about this on the view, eleven million people
were kept out. He has to say, you know, twenty
five million.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
He was going on about healthcare prices, pharmaceutical prices, excuse me,
and he was going to have them marched down one
hundred percent, two hundred.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
He could have sat one hundred, you know, one hundred million,
but I think he stopped at six hundred percent. You
realize that one hundred percent means they'd be for free.
There is no more after one hundred percent, fifty percent,
thirty percent. But once you hit one hundred percent, there's
nothing out. What is six hundred percent? He is, he's
stumping and he already has the gig. We don't want
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to stomp. We wanted to actually deliver on what he
said he was going to deliver on. And there's not
a whole hell of a lot. He's going on about
how the economy is so great and it's so much
better than the mess he was left in with Biden. Well,
inflation was at three percent. It's just about the same
right now. This month. I think it went down to
two point seven. That just came out earlier today, but
(36:12):
prior to that it was two point nine under Biden,
and it's two point nine prior to this under him.
So where's it coming down? I will say in the
state of Massachusetts, because I know you're very different. In California.
My gas is two fifty six this week. I just
just went and got gas today.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's down.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
California starts with the five. All gas in California starts
with the five. It has not come down here, ay
and all of that. When's the last time he's went
into a grocery store. I would love to see him
walk through a grocery store to actually see what the
everyday consumer pays for a price, and don't let it
be televas. Put him in drag or put him in
(36:51):
a costume, whatever, so he could actually walk through and
see what the American people actually have to go through
while you keep holling prices are down, this is down.
People are starting, people are hungry. Your own military. People
are standing in soup lines and bread kitchens because they're
not getting enough money. No, Bobby, I'm not baying shit,
he's selling. He's not going to do anything. Meanwhile, his
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son is six hundred million dollars richer. The other ones
are three point The whole family has made four or
five at least four billion dollars in acquiring office.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
That is unheard of. That is unheard of.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Because these sideals that we don't get the chance to
see that side part money is coming in hand over
his allegedly. We don't want to get sued over here.
So yeah, it's crazy and we're sick of it. So
if you're so sick of it, then fucking do something,
Michelle Obama said, doing a campaign, do something.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Get your ass to the polls during the primaries. Vote
these foods out.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Anybody that's against you, against your accounting, against the people
that you don't want to see hungy or.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Hurt or bitter or harm.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Because if they don't live the lifestyle that you want
them to live, but they're happily in the lifetile they're
living in. Vote them people out. They should not have carblancho.
But what they can say say about you and your lifestyle. Again,
I said, this is he she we you got a problem.
Argue with me, don't argue with Bobby. She don't argue
no way. Sheer white ladies. She don't call police.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
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Speaker 2 (38:16):
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Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian Same Monroe and welcome
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Noise with my co host Bobby Clifford. Thank you guys
for joining us here this week. It's been quite an
interesting week. How was your week, Bobby Clifford? Because it's
called over there in Boston.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's cold where we're hitting a little bit of a
reprieve today it was in the forties always ready to
get my two piece out and run around neighborhood, but
it has been freezing. This was a heavy week about
everything that we're going to discuss today, So I can't.
I wish I could say that they were fun or
but we've we've had a lot of a lot of stuff,
a lot of a lot of violence over this past week.
(02:16):
That is, I have a very heavy heart right now.
I have to be honest. I'm assuming you're the same.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Uh. Well, before I get to my heavy heart, I
just want to talk about it has not been kodo
here now. I was in Chicago last couple of days cold,
and then I went to New Orleans for the weekend
and it wasn't it was. It was a little chill
for the pad. The pageant was highly successful with the
Queen and King pageant. So was the Gospel Battle and
the Transman Battle. Shout out to the winners, which we
(02:43):
it's area Sinclair for the Gospel Battle and to mister
Ashton from Dallas for the Transman Battle. I had a
great weekend. Byby that I came home. I got a
new project coming up, I think, and I'm excited about it.
But with all of that, it's warming California, So I'm
for everybody else who got the cold. And then Boston
(03:04):
y'all got that white people cold like Minnesota. That's in Canada.
That's that white people called that ain't regular cold, that's
that white people called white people called hit different.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
It does. I think that it's all of our weather
lately has been from Canada. I think they're trying to
get back for the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Their cold hit different. No, thank you, I'm not pretty
to any of that. But we have had a couple
of losses during the week that we were that we
were going last week as ladies gymman. Yesterday we lost.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Who do we lose? Body?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
We lost? I think it was two days ago Anthony
Geary Luke from from.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
General Hospital, and I'm telling you looking at me about
to tell my age. When we were young and General
it was on Luke and Laura was like the couple
for all the soap operas. So when they had the wedding,
I'm telling you, ABC built it up and they milked it,
and it was to me, being an American, it was
as big as Princess Diana's waiting to Prince Charles.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That's what they like him. It too.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I mean they really didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, it was so beautiful and Luca Laurie, they just
had like the p they had been through all the
rocky roads and up and down on the soap opera
and it was just really a beautiful wedding.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It was a beautiful memory. So I'm glad. I'm for
rest in peace. Anthony here. He was such a great actor.
He was on that soap opera for good God, six fifty.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Years a bazilion. That's where I got my I was
just telling you before the show my nickname. He had
a sister. His big sister was Bobby and her first
name was Barbara Jean, like mine. So they used to
call me BJ before that, and all the boys put
picked on me.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That ain't what BJ stood for anywhere, so they yes,
you did. Well.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I didn't know it until that they had to describe
it to me. Jesus, I almost said, I almost had
to get the paddles to get me awake, my poor
little twelve year old is. But then they started calling
me Bobby, and that's where I got my nickname. So
poor Anthony Gary, I think I don't know if it
was prostate cancer. Poor guy. I mean he lived a life.
But I hate to see anybody, you know, anybody you
(05:13):
know go, although he went surrounded by family and all
of that. If you had, if you have to leave,
it was the opposite of the next death that we're
going to discuss. Uh, you know, he left, He left
in an honorable way. The next one, go ahead with
that because my heart is just I'm sick over it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
So a wow. And let me tell you why Rob Reiner.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Means so much to me, because you know, I tell
the story all the time about All in the Family
and what the character's name, Beverly Lassell, and it did
to me when she died, Rob Brianer was with her
and she was defending his life, which is how she
lost her life in the show. On the episode of
But Rob Brander, who played Mike Stivick, me he Mike
Stivick or all in the Family for years was him
(06:01):
and his wife Michelle were tragically killed, unfortunately by their
own son who suffered from mental illness, who suffered from
drug abuse and all that and all these excuses and
what everybody's saying, they were wonderful parents and we will
it hurts so bad to hear that that you go
all out for your kids. You do everything you can
for your kid, and for your kid to betray you
(06:22):
in such a way. Now we don't know whether it
was mental illness. None of us will ever know just
the people that were involved. But it's still sad to
hear when a kid kills their parents. That is just
tragic to me. It's hard to find sympathy as a parent.
It is hard to find sympathy in that to me,
because life is choices and the same way you chose
(06:43):
to walk in in and stay up, both of your
parents are there. You could have also chose to call
somebody or go somewhere, or call the police and say
you can't handle what is happening in your life.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
But you didn't, so it's you know, mental illness.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's not that I'm not sympathetic towards this situation, but
part of me is just not sympathetic towards the situation.
And you are entitled kid. Your parents have been rich
since your inception, so you know what I mean by it.
It's hard for me to say you weren't hungry, you
weren't homeless, you weren't this, and you weren't that. Not
if you have play a part in that on your own.
(07:19):
But it's so tragic that I'm not trying to reason
the reasons why. The reason not because unfortunately two people
are dead and one person's life is going to squalor
because even though the parents.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Are both deceased now the son is probably going to
be put in a mental institution, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
For the rest of his life, which is where you
should be.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, they're talking about the death penalty here in California too,
that is on the table.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think of.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I also think of the siblings, you know, the sister
who lives across the street, who found them when you know,
the parents didn't call for a brunch or whatever they
usually did. They were going to meet up with the
Obamas later that day. I don't know if it was
for drinks or for dinner or you know. Maria Shriver,
they were her best friends. They had so many people
(08:08):
come forward, everybody the glory and this is the next
piece that we'll talk about the wonderful things that everybody
said about them, because he lived a rich, full life,
the two of them did. She was a photographer, he
was an actor, director, producer, and most importantly they were activists.
They were. They believed in the country, They believed in
(08:29):
the good of people, even in the mess that it
is now. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago.
He came forward and say, this is we can turn
it all around everything that we've been saying. You just
got to vote, You've gotta if you're unhappy, these are
the things you need to do. And he put his
literally his money and his time where his mouth was.
And then here person in the highest position that we
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have in this country. I don't even want to give
him a name, say come out on Trousseau was such
a heinous and horrific post about them and how they
had Trump Trump derangements at syndrome. He referred to himself.
Trump says he doesn't think that they were good for
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the country, and like, that's me calling well, Bobby says
that they're not. You're referring to your yourself and the
third person. I think if there's any derangement he should do,
he should look at a Mira. I mean, that was
so disappointing. And you and I have spoken about this.
The fissures were seeing them. A lot of people have
(09:35):
come out about what he was saying and they're disgusted.
John Kennedy, who's usually up his wazoo, David Urban, James
Woods is always on Fox, and he came out. They
have those panels on the end of shows, and there
was one on I caught the end, but they didn't
have their their names posted. But they were not pleased.
Tom Massey, Marjorie Taylor Green, who would think she'd be
(09:58):
the voice of reason all coming out against how despicable
what he said was, especially for the highest position in
the land and the most powerful person.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know why, Bobby it to me because now they
realize that nothing or no one is off limits. So
if he could be so disgusting about somebody who's not
even a politician, who just had a large voice to
speak against this presidency, because they all get spoken against.
Nobody will ever please everybody. But they realize now that
you know what he did, this to him, he would
(10:29):
damn show come after us. And I think people's humanity
might be starting to settle in. But it's very true, Bobby,
if we can have a blue wave again like we
had November fourth, and if we could some of these
seats like we flipped those seats in Philadelphia, was that
thirty years was that Philadelphia Main?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Where was that at?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Why the sea? After thirty years? Arizona? Arizona? We could
We have the power within us. We have what it takes.
We just have to stick together in order to do it.
And I'm not surprised by anything he says, Bobby, you know,
some of these things, I'm starting to actually think I
feel that way. I think he feels that way, but
(11:06):
I think he says those things to get his base
rallied up and fight up, because there's probably are things
that they are thinking, so he just says them out loud,
which is how he wanted me. Because again we had
an episode of a year and a half ago of
he is exactly who they are. They are exactly They
are all the same people. They are exactly who he is,
and he's just their leader because they are all the
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same person. But that was very tragic, and as a parent,
you know, it's hard to fathom to think that you
have loved your child and nurture your child and respected
your child and taught your child and did everything you
could and for your child to murder you. You know,
I just hope and pray that they were asleep so
they didn't even know it was coming. I hope that
(11:48):
it was just a one blow and it was out
because you had to do this twice. But for both
your parents, it's kind of like the Minanza's brothers. You
had time to think about the second one, even though
you made a grave mistake the first. You had the
time to think about Zega, and you still pursued it. Bobby,
I just I cannot find any sympathy in that. Especially
it'd be different if your parents don't molesting you or
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selling you out.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Or you know what I mean, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But from what everyone is saying, because we weren't there,
we don't know the inside story. But from all the
beautiful stories coming from so many people, from a celebrity
to the common man that had interaction with Rob Reiner,
they all saying that him and his wife were great parents.
And we know how hard it is to be a
great parent, especially in this climate shit with the challenge
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is every day every day.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It's true, though it's not. Yeah, I just the president
could have brought the country together because this is on
the heels of and we'll get into it in a moment,
shooting and Brown and the shooting. You know, we were
in complete and utter turmoil over the weekend, and instead
of making us feel better, he was divisive. And it's
(12:59):
funny he has this new he's I think he's calling
it the Hall of Fame. It's the Walk of shame.
On the colonnade. He put all of the president's pictures
up and he wrote, he put a bronze plaque underneath them.
He wrote the garbage that went underneath, and I just
looked at poor Barack Obama had two under his and
(13:22):
they were scathing. I just I can't even believe this
is on the outside of the of the White House,
that somebody is allowing him. I'm like, I wish somebody
would sue him for defamation, like it's just it's it's you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I think it is horrible that he has been allowed
to do that, but I think it speaks volumes on
the jealousy and the envy that he has for the
people that love President Obama in this country. And this
comes from all sides, all spectrums, all different parties. People
(13:58):
love President Obama, and I think he wishes that he
had just that. But they don't love him. They may
fear him because there is no respect. There is fear,
and there is pity, but there is definitely that love.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
No, he doesn't. But you can't move in two different ways.
You can't watch a loved president. And of course Sleepy
Joe's was just a scathing. You can't be somebody that
has compassion empathy be a president who moves like that,
(14:35):
and then and you don't and people love you for
it and think you're going to get the same love
that the other presidents. It's just it's it's again, it's
beneath what his position should be or what his status
should be. Why are you that insecure you know that
that you've got these? Can you imagine if I don't
even know if heads of state go through the colonnade,
(14:57):
but if they do, they're going to read these. They're
not even factual. They're they're not even is the.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Other the other Robby Bobby, Why are you surprised with that?
Is anything that he has seen during his campaign or
his presidency factual?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, when we can talk about that in a few minutes,
when we get to his address that that was on Wednesday,
Uh no, but you would think, okay, so have that
on the inside in the in your residence. But to
put it on the outside of the people's house building.
It should be there should be anything that goes up
(15:34):
should be factual, you know it. You shouldn't be allowed
to say the recession was the worst, and this was
the worst. Things that in the Affordable Care Act was
was was the worst because it wasn't necessarily the worst.
It wasn't exact a perfect No. President Obama said that
(15:54):
back when when they put it in place, But it
was the best that they could do bipartisan. He said,
everybody needs to work out the kinks. Now it's up
to the Congress to work out all the kings. Well,
nobody ever worked out the kings. But and now he's
talking about President Trump. He got the Kennedy Center board
who represents the memorial to John F. Kennedy. That's what
(16:17):
the Kennedy Center is. It's a memorial like the Lincoln
Monument is, you know, Lincoln's memorial, Lincoln's memorial. And they're
now going to call it the Trump Kennedy Center.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Or a man who wouldn't serve in the military coause
here at Bonespurst, can we rename it the Bones Purst Center.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And the other one would have broken back and swam
six miles with his men in a boat, holding the
boat rope with his teeth in wo oh. I mean,
you've got to be God bless. That's brave, but that's
a patriot.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, before we go into further we're gonna take a
quick commercial break. Unfortunately, Bobby, though, what we need to talk,
what we can talk about, is these all of these
boat strikes that's happening over and I'm telling you, Bobby,
ever since they have dangled the apple in front of
Trump's face about if we're in a war, there will
(17:19):
be no election, so we whether however it's going to
go down come the primaries. I think he's trying to
find the way that we don't have a primary, that
he could just continue to stay at office, which allegedly
would be him with us getting into some kind of
war with another country for whatever the reason may be.
(17:40):
But I really don't want us attacking I really don't
want us attacking an innocent country over bs just so
this man can stay in office. But hit me when
I tell you, according to that video that that audio
tape that came out two weeks ago, when he says,
I don't care what you have to do start a war.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Whatever. If I go down, everybody's going down with me.
That was not a That is how he really feels.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
So the country will become collateral damage just so he
can remain the president of these United States. And I said,
the country, not black folks and not yet Latino folks,
not immigrants, not not poor, the country, and war affects everybody,
the rich as well, because you're gonna lose your livelihood too.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Well, it's supposedly all our drugs. We know it's not
drugs because he looked just really released like a kingpin,
a drug kingpin in endoras you know the ex president.
It's to force a regime change, which I don't know how.
You know it's going to benefit him somehow, but that's
not the way to do it. I have not read
the Vanity Fair article where his chief of staff comes out,
(18:40):
comes out, and she's just honest about him. She doesn't
even come out against against. My guess is that she's
going to be leaving her position and she wants to
go on the record before she does. But she I
think she she confirmed in that article about what the
boat the boat strikes were for. She said that President
Trump has the the ideology of a of an alcoholic
(19:02):
where they think they can do everything and they're never
wrong and there and I thought, ooh, she said JD
Vance was a conspiracy Yeah, conspiracist, I thought. Interest But
they still love her.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
The Press secretary came out and said, Nope, that was
just bad, bad journalism. And he has it all on
like tape. So you know that he's They're probably gonna say,
that's ai right, she's not demanded.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well, that's the reason that he wins because his base
is eager. Don't rebelieve anything that they hear, especially coming
out of Carolina Levis's face or Trump's mouth. So you know,
we don't. Again, we've said this on this show numerous
the times. Give him a microphone for three or four minutes,
stop the monitor, and you will meet the real devil.
You will meet the damons. You will you because he
(19:54):
gonna go loose.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be flame. Doesn't necessarily
mean a microphone, just anywhere, his his his truth social
you know, give him two minutes where he's by himself
and he can just kind of go ham and talk
about himself. Again. Go back to Rob Reiner and his wife,
who in the world makes a tragedy into something political,
(20:17):
It doesn't. It just doesn't make sense to me. I
don't understand it. I don't know how you could be
so small minded. But again, he's he's going to force
these fissures and within his own party, so you know,
I don't think it's I think the only thing that's
going to do is help the Democrats during midterm. So
he somebody better rein him in and uh and let
(20:38):
him know it's not working the way that you actually
think it's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, we are. And such a christis one. We're in.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Such a christis Boby right now. But let's move on.
Let's move on. Let's move on.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Bobby Clifford, Well, what do you want do you want
to do? Talk about?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I would like to I would like to talk about
the beloved country of Ukraine. We respect, we respect you
over here, and we thank you for fighting a good
fight for your country.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I know it's not over with you.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It just looks so ugly, and I hate that Joe
Biden is not the president anymore because he was damn
sure giving assistance to you and your country over there,
fighting to save y'all own and we would hope that
we could have that. But this president that we have
seemed to be alienating a lot of our allies. So
it's getting really really skitchy.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Bobby.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Meanwhile, he is sugarcoating and distracting everybody with the promises
of these blue leg two thousand dollars checks that's supposed
to be coming.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Wait for it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Keep checking your mailbox every day. Christmas will come and go,
and Santa will not deliver it in your box. Say
here with your chimney. He ain't gonna make it to
your mailbox. I don't believe it, Bobby.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And first of all, I'd like that during his speech
he's said that he was he was giving there was
seventeen hundred and something some probably some good number for
him what he plays in the lottery. He was he
wanted to give the.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It is seventeen seventy six, the year of independence, supposedly.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Is that what it is? That what I do? It
was seventeen something. I can see it now. Yeah, the
Christmas checks. I'll be interested to see if it comes forward.
Supposedly it's coming forward from the tariffs and from I
haven't heard from anybody that the tariffs are actually working
the way that they're supposed to be working, and it
would be too soon anyway. And you were supposed to
take that money, and you were supposed to pay down
(22:38):
the deficit, that was the whole point of it. Well,
you're not putting down the deficit. You're sending out checks. Now.
I know they're well needed and these people had to
wait for money, and et cetera, et cetera, But I
don't I hope everybody is smart enough to know there's
only no two K check coming your way. You know
we're lucky enough for the military. Get it.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, Christmas, are you expecting the barrageuse twenty twenty six,
twenty eight, thirty five, seventy nine. I understand that if
you do get a tariff chick, if you do get
one of these checks, they're going to get them.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
They're going to get the money back on your income taxes.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't think y'all paid attention to the last time
when y'all got those so called stimulus checks. They retext
you at a tax time, So you're borrowing against or
you being loan money that you didn't ask to borrow
against your own money that you don't have yet. But
it's coming, and I'm sure they'll find a way to
take just a tad bit more of what you were
supposed to be getting because they helped you out for
a loan that you didn't even ask for.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Just pay attention, y'all. Just pay attention. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I mean it's it's again. If our deficits going up,
and it's going to go, it's not helping anybody.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Paying down the deficit like you said, would actually would
actually help. But he's not gonna he's not going to
do it. I'm telling you the story.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well it needs you to as long as yourn got
the oranges, we okay. I want to address the subject
that I see happened today. So that was a trans woman.
I'm not sure if her age in Flint, Michigan, Bobby
and on Live. So she was let me let me
give you this synopsis of the story. She was dating
a guy, a biological male. She was a trans woman.
(24:22):
She was dad biological mail, and the biological mail apparently
had met a hookup on one of the dating apps,
which was a trans man. So so this was biologically
a woman, but he lived his life as a man,
so he looked like him and everything. But he told
the girlfriend the boy the guy told the girlfriend that
that was his weed hookup. Come to find out that
(24:43):
the transman on the hookup and the boyfriend was hooking up.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But it wasn't for no damn weed.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It was for other things, extracurricular activities and the sexual nature.
So the transman supposedly sent the text message to the
boyfriend to say, hey, let's share some poppers, which is
head rush. For some strange reason, the boyfriend drank the
poppers and die. With poppers, you're supposed to sniff, not
drink and die. And so the girlfriend was furious about it.
(25:11):
She made apparently made a fake account to hook up
with the trans man. He showed up the house and
on lab on video she killed him. She sliced them
up and killed them, stabbed them up, come beheaded him.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And as a trans.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Person in this country, Bobby, when I say we have
to do things to defend ourselves because we have been
putting such a precarious position because they deem us mentally ill, well,
what else does that look like that you would videotape
that and put that out from the public consumption to see.
But mental illness and is that not only did she
do a disservice to herself and the two young men involved,
(25:47):
now she did a disservice to the trans community because
you're president. Last night on his address in the Nation,
transgender was all over his common topic of conversation, deeming
us mentally ill.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And then you come and do this, Bobby. This makes
it so scared for me.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm like, God, damn, I got to give me a
job and just going to head because I don't know
how to receive.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
This, Bobby. And then they it's almost like they do
this stuff to be celebrating. You video taste stuff like that.
So that's premeditating because you had your camera going so
you knew what you were going to do. You had
an audience to watch it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I still think, I mean, trends has nothing to do
with mental illness. Is mental illness everybody, every every race,
uh denomination, sex. It doesn't make a difference a sexual preference.
There's nothing mental illness. I'll find. You got to be premeditated.
(26:40):
I mean they had to have flipped a flipped to
like their lid. We just had Brian Walsh, who on
New Year's Day caught up his wife supposely she found
her dead in bed, although he got rid of her
clothing and everything and did the same thing, bought hack
saws and everything. And I'm only mentioning it because it
literally they just sentenced him today. I can't imagine. Can
(27:02):
you imagine taking somebody that you supposedly loved at some
point and cutting them up in pieces like they're like
a cow carcass. That's mental illness.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The transman. The trans man was somebody she loved. The
boyfriend was somebody she loved, but he drank the poppers
and died, so she was on some revenge. She okay, yeah,
she was on revenge because no, no, no, she cut
(27:38):
off the connect because the connect and the boyfriend was
hooking up. And I'm like, well, what would make him
drink poppers? The smell alone is powerful. You damn show
how you get that down your throat. So I'm thinking
that he might have already been on some other substance
because I just cannot imagine you drink.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Have you ever a smell poppers? Bobby?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It is a head cleaner that a.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Lot of people using sexual capacities because it opens up
your I think it loosens the anal and it doesn't camera,
but it's a it's maybe a thirty forty second high.
You sniff it and you feel youphoria for thirty forty seconds,
but the smell is really strong, something like I'm I'm
not understanding how he could possibly have drank that and
(28:25):
that he was under some kind of other influence because
it's yeah, it just didn't work. But for her to
do this on lab and I'm telling you he run
around here demon us mentally ill. That again, that looks
mentally ill. And I hate to say that, Bobby Beck,
but it does because and premanitated you videotaping. You knew
what you were going to do when that person got
(28:45):
and then you get on camera and you admit to
it all. So I ain't gonna fit pleading not guilty
when you didn't told on your damn self.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Remind me not the rober Bank. But you, good god, I.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Can't even I just don't understand that the violence, the
just the violence, you know, I don't get it. I mean,
that is that is brutal. I'm thinking again, I think
of the Rhiners and how they died. We had Bondai
Beach and Australia and celebrating the first day of Hanukkah
and a father son team taking them out by long gun.
(29:18):
And then we have Brown University finishing up. Imagine that.
I can't even imagine the money. You know, Ivy League school,
that you're sending your kid off to school, waiting for
them to come home because Christmas time, and they're finishing
their final and he he shoots because it looks like
it's a male. Uh kills two and I think there
(29:39):
were nine others that were that were injured. I mean,
we're just getting more and more and more violent. I
just don't Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, it's great because I think I think the pandemic
brought out the worst and a lot of us.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Let me say this, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
As far as the Epstein files go, so more photos
from the Epstein's files has been released from the Estate.
Democrats on the House Oversight Committee release photos from Jeffrey
Epstein to State Thursday this past Thursday, the latest and
a series of intermittent disclosures that have few significant political
intrigue in recent weeks about who may have been associated
(30:24):
with the convicted sex offender. Five photographs were released without
additional contents by a member of the panel, which includes
a Ukrainian passport with a female notation. Philosopher Noam Chomsky
on a plane with Epstein and Bill Gates posing for
a photograph with a woman whose face was redacted by
the Democrats on the paddel. I understand that some of
the Democrats are on there. But even though the Democrats
(30:46):
ain't well who we're after, Bobby, if we got to
get one, we got to get them off.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
If we're going to get the big one, we got
to get the all. And I'm sure there's a lot
of all that we may like. That's probably a lot
of all that we like. But fucking the key is
fucking the key that it is wrong, and now we're
going to like that.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
No, I think absolutely No, I don't care. I don't care.
It doesn't make a difference to me. A Democrat or
Republican or independent or whatever the hell you say you are.
I don't care. If you were wrong, you were wrong.
But a lot of these pictures, it seems like they're
not releasing flame, anything that's new, anything that's wetting our whistle.
They're all everything that everybody that were in those pictures
have already already disclosed. You know, where is the meat
(31:28):
we were going to remember, we were gonna Bondie had,
and of course that Susie Wiles said that she handled
it completely wrong. We were going to see see their list,
we were going to see all these salacious pictures and
all the salacious information. It's all a bunch of beloney
and none of it, none of it existed. That said,
(31:49):
I just release what we have and let's move on.
I'm so sick of talking about the Epstein files and
the fact that we're still discussing it. It's not resolved,
and these people don't have any closure. I'm just I'm
over it. I really am.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
I'm over it.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, you know Bobby, But again, at this point, I
think they can release a video of him in the
most offensive position with a kid in the world, and
it's not going to make a difference to his base
because he has gotten them so charmed, like the pied piper.
They are hooked, bought, and sew for whatever his antics are,
(32:33):
even when it's detrimental to them. So I don't know
what it is, but whatever it is, I need four
gallons fleets.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
No, yeah, no, I think you're exactly. You know, he
could walk down Wall Street and take everybody out or
whatever whatever that stupid expression he was talking about. I
think with his specific base. But I'm telling you, I
am seeing small fissures in places that he's turning people off.
And I think I go back to you saying, you know,
give him a microphone. Just he's going to talk himself
(33:04):
out of some of this crazy, you know, with the
Trump Kennedy Center, and because now he doesn't realize somebody
can come in and wipe him out. Whatever memorial they have,
they can, they can put their name on it, like
it's it's all such bad form. I just the only
thing I'm very interested. So for the ACA for four,
(33:27):
Republicans came over to the Democrat side and they agreed
to extend the subsidies. But I believe it's going to
come across his desk. He has to be willing to
sign it. Is he going to.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I don't know. I do believe, Bobby there was just
what you just said. What you I believe what you
just said to be very true.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
The next president coming behind him, even if it's the Republican,
we'll remove all of that ship because it will lead
such horrible.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Memories for our country because.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Whatever whatever he has been, and they think that they
got to, he has left such a disdain and such
a nasty taste, not only just in our country, he said,
and doing his speech yesterday, he said that they were
all laughing at us.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
They're laughing even louder now.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Then tell you this, And he is an imbecile if
he thinks they're not laughing at us, they're laughing at him.
You know that they well know, yeah, it's it's the
crazy stupid stuff he in that address. And I have
to be honest. I have, And it's just his way.
(34:32):
He turns me on, like if he was a wonderful president,
like did everything that was even good for the people,
just the way he speaks, just way before. I couldn't
watch I couldn't watch the Apprentice. He turns me off.
So I taped it. I devauted whatever I major myself
by saying taped, and I had to listen to it
in small and small spaces. The incorrection of everything, and
(34:58):
in the your docing was crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
He secured the border, well, he did secure the border.
Be happy with that. There were eleven million people they
were talking about this on the view, eleven million people
were kept out. He has to say, you know, twenty
five million.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
He was going on about healthcare prices, pharmaceutical prices, excuse me,
and he was going to have them marched down one
hundred percent, two hundred.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
He could have sat one hundred, you know, one hundred million,
but I think he stopped at six hundred percent. You
realize that one hundred percent means they'd be for free.
There is no more after one hundred percent, fifty percent,
thirty percent. But once you hit one hundred percent, there's
nothing out. What is six hundred percent? He is, he's
stumping and he already has the gig. We don't want
(35:51):
to stomp. We wanted to actually deliver on what he
said he was going to deliver on. And there's not
a whole hell of a lot. He's going on about
how the economy is so great and it's so much
better than the mess he was left in with Biden. Well,
inflation was at three percent. It's just about the same
right now. This month. I think it went down to
two point seven. That just came out earlier today, but
(36:12):
prior to that it was two point nine under Biden,
and it's two point nine prior to this under him.
So where's it coming down? I will say in the
state of Massachusetts, because I know you're very different. In California.
My gas is two fifty six this week. I just
just went and got gas today.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's down.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
California starts with the five. All gas in California starts
with the five. It has not come down here, ay
and all of that. When's the last time he's went
into a grocery store. I would love to see him
walk through a grocery store to actually see what the
everyday consumer pays for a price, and don't let it
be televas. Put him in drag or put him in
(36:51):
a costume, whatever, so he could actually walk through and
see what the American people actually have to go through
while you keep holling prices are down, this is down.
People are starting, people are hungry. Your own military. People
are standing in soup lines and bread kitchens because they're
not getting enough money. No, Bobby, I'm not baying shit,
he's selling. He's not going to do anything. Meanwhile, his
(37:11):
son is six hundred million dollars richer. The other ones
are three point The whole family has made four or
five at least four billion dollars in acquiring office.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
That is unheard of. That is unheard of.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Because these sideals that we don't get the chance to
see that side part money is coming in hand over
his allegedly. We don't want to get sued over here.
So yeah, it's crazy and we're sick of it. So
if you're so sick of it, then fucking do something,
Michelle Obama said, doing a campaign, do something.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Get your ass to the polls during the primaries. Vote
these foods out.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Anybody that's against you, against your accounting, against the people
that you don't want to see hungy or.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Hurt or bitter or harm.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Because if they don't live the lifestyle that you want
them to live, but they're happily in the lifetile they're
living in. Vote them people out. They should not have carblancho.
But what they can say say about you and your lifestyle. Again,
I said, this is he she we you got a problem.
Argue with me, don't argue with Bobby. She don't argue
no way. Sheer white ladies. She don't call police.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Look, so.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
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(39:03):
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