February 7, 2025 • 47 mins
On this episode of Laugh and Learn, Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford reflect on Black History Month, RFK Jr.'s views on vaccines, political appointments in the current administration, immigration policies and Elon Musk's shenanegans. They also unpack the impact of DEI policies on society and the economy, the challenges faced by transgender individuals in sports and military, they express concerns about leadership, governance, and the Democratic Party's strategy moving forward as well as the progress made in civil rights and the potential setbacks due to current political actions and more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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the grown a second year. We're gonna laugh, cut him
and kick it and at the end we leave it
with just a list of spirits.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
But you want to revisit so your first second listen,
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Speaker 3 (01:11):
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Speaker 1 (01:12):
What you do?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No this do what you do?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Can no this?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Do what I do?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No good Hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome
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to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn. Oh my god,
this is number thirty two.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You're age thirty five, I mean, oh.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
This is number thirty five us. Ever, thank you guys
for rolling with us for thirty five episodes. We got
a few more before we looking at season five, and
we could not have gotten this far without my threat,
without our flame. Its so thank you from me and
my beautiful co host Bobby Clifford, how that's going. It's
going well, Bobby Clifford. I am in a good mood today,
even though I'm looking at the news and they trying
to put me in a bad mood. I'm fighting with everything.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I guess that's what you have to do, because what
is it distractions?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So I was just a lot of talk and a
lot of nonsense.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, we're Americans. We got to fight back. We got
to stand up. Just like animals. Your corner animal animal
fights you back, They're gonna fight back. That's what we do.
But I had a good week, Bobby. I'm glad to
be back this week here. We got a lot to
talk about. We got a lot to cover as far
as what is happening with this new administration and their takeaways,
because they trying to do the takeaways. They trying to
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take away everything. But we ain't gonna even get started
on that. First. This is also Black History Month, so
I want to say and I am going to acknowledge
as many black historians as I can. It's so many
to look at. I was watching Birth of a Nation
the other night, and it was the story of Nat Turner, who,
as a black guy, he was a slave, but he
rebelled against his slave masters. He killed fifty five white
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slave masters and women and children, but we lost like
bas According to a history book, they said they killed
her like a thousand people behind him rebelling. But the
story was just so compelling that it's just like you
got somebody got fed up and just pushed back. I'm
hoping that it's not what happens in our country, even
though I will say that for myself, but I'm hoping
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that it's not that we don't even have to come
to the blows like that, that this country comes to
a sense, but to a census. But from what I
can see right now, the damn show ain't coming to
a census because they are appointing anybody you could find
the most unqualified maniacs to put in these positions of
power in this administration. So I don't know, Bobby, You
know RFK I interviewed. I did not think he was
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gonna get passed. But so far he's he's looking like
he on the plus side his seat. So it is toasty, Gabbert.
So I don't know, Bobby. These are these are mad
being and mad woman. Let me say this for the record,
these are your people, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
That RFK Jr. I don't know he's he's a different
type of fella. But I don't think he's an evil person.
I think he's somebody that is just looking for popularity
and some sort of power. I don't feel that he
is the If this was environmental, because he's an environmental attorney,
I think maybe he would be qualified. I don't think
he's qualified for the job. I think he's got things,
(04:29):
I like, get the junk out of food, but he
just doesn't want He keeps saying he is not an
anti vaxxer, but he won't he won't commit to following
the science, you know, like so, but yeah, you know
I can't. Even when I saw Clarence Thomas swearing in Christy, No,
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I have to tell you, I got a little sick
of my mouth.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Well, I want to say this about RFK Jr. Because
when I did interview him, I don't know whether he was,
you know, sugarcoat and how he really felt about things
while he was talking to me or have you. But
I just didn't get that from him. And you know,
I'm a pretty good judge of character. I really got
authenticity from him, and when it comes down to the
whole vaccine thing. I've never been anti vaccine, but some
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of his points if you sit down and research how
he's saying about the autism that became so much more
popular after vaccines, after all these different bas and it
kind of makes you sit back and like, you know,
let me research them for myself to get to understand
what he's saying because statistically, and I'm not giving RFK
like I'm jumping on the side, but I hear him
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and I understand where he's coming from, especially as a
parent of children, that you want to know what they're
putting in your kids' body as well as your own body,
because I've had vaccines, Bobby, I've had all kind of vaccines.
I didn't take the COVID vaccine because I didn't trust
how fast it came out. But I do get his
point of how it looks statistically that from nineteen is nineteen,
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what seventy nine or eighty vaccines have just the autism
rate has really jumped up in absolutely because of so
many different vaccines.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So I will it's not the vaccines.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I mean, one of the things with autism is it's
kind of coincidental. It shows in a child at a
certain time, a certain timeframe. It just happens to coordinate
around the same age as you give some certain vaccines.
But it has been disproven that vaccines have nothing to
do with autism. Maybe some of the stuff in our food,
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you know, they are looking into it because it got
it has kind of exploded.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I think we also have ways.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You know, you used to have a little billy that
was in class that was a little odd and we
really didn't know what it was. But there are ways
that we can tell the stuff now, you know, and
doctors are more in tune with it. But I just
don't think you get a whole population. You know, when
you're a young parent, you want everything for your kid,
and you to have people not vaccinating. This is something
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that they might have heard from him with the possibility
of somebody getting sick, you know, Measles is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It could be a killer in some kids.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
So I just think he's he just wouldn't commit to
a few things that I didn't like. Senator Warren from
Massachusetts was asking him he makes money, you know, setting
up legal cases and whatnot, and she said, obviously you
won't be doing that while you're in office, And he said, oh,
of course I won't. And she says, well, can you
commit to us that for four years after, which is
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you know non competes and stuff are very similar to that,
that you won't be involved in any of the cases
that you're involved with. And he wouldn't do it while
you're in house, and he wouldn't do it, so you know,
he could be trumming the waters from himself.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So all while they are being grilled to get these seats,
they are so evasive with the questions from what's what's
the new one's name? Cash cash Matie and uh uh
Hicks Saith and they are so evasive. But they learn
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that from watching their leader, because their leader is evasive
with the with the answers to the.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Question heard him once as her question flam have you
actually when somebody asks a question, have you heard him
actually answer it?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yes, he will answer. He'll answer the question. If he's
about to attack you, if he's about to go after you,
he won't answer the question. But then he'll flip it
real quickly go back back after you, so he doesn't
have to answer the question. But they and this is
what it is. If we are watching our leaders then
and you're going to do as they do, then this
is why they are getting He's appointing people that's going
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to do not only what he does, but what he says. Yeah,
so we had a I mean the.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Name of the game.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I mean, I don't like I don't like BONDI she
was just confirmed. I don't like her politics. That said,
and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
That said.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I also understand him many people that are going to
back him, but I do feel like she's qualified to
do the job. Flame she gets it, she understands it,
She's got the qualifications. The fact that our politics don't
jibe is you know, that's neither here nor there. He's
the president and he's allowed to pick people. But when
he's putting people that I do get concerned. And he
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has people that just they just don't have the qualifications
and they say, like like Chelsea gabbartt like kind of
crazy stuff where she doesn't denounce Pootin or any of
the things that he's done. And that kind of gives
me the hev gbis he's got a huge pot and
pool on the GOP side of very well qualified people
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that he could pick from. I don't know why some
of the people are a little less than that. He's
that he's scooping up.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, Bobby, it is is very dishearting to see too.
And you know what bothers me, Bobby, is that they
are in these hot seats and they are going to
get asked some very heugh questions, very tough. But the
people that's asking them, some of the Democrats, because the
Republicans are not going hard on them at all. But
the Democrats that are asking them these tough questions, they
(10:13):
get off the land. They almost make it like a
shouting match. Why would you argue with me when I'm
asking you questions about a job that you were playing for.
You see what I'm saying. I might like that the
Republicans get to give the pushback. I don't think they
should be allowed to give a pushback. You knew what
you were coming in for this day, and you knew
it was going to be You're going to be up
under the light, up under the microscope. I don't think
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that you should have the right to give me any
pushback when I'm asking you questions about pertaining to a
job that you're trying to acquire.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And answer answer the question.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Stop there at your they're doing the Trump saying, and
they're also doing the they look like an abused spouse
that is always kind of looking to the left or
looking to the right to make sure what they're saying
is okay. You know they it's well, well, President Trump,
well no, that wasn't what I was asking you. I
was asking you how you feel and are you going
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to be loyal to the Constitution? And if he goes
against something, we know we can count on you to
put it back on the rails. That's what I'm looking
And they're kind of you know, I know they seem
a little jumpy, but you.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Know, there are positions of being filled.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
He's had a few more that have gone this week
and so far nothing horrible, but but R. F. K
Junior and Telsea Gabbert are on the Senate floor. So
we'll see. We'll see if some sensical person says no
for on the on the GOP side, for either one
of them.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, it is uh, it's preponderous viby to see that
we we we've allowed our America and when I say we,
I mean all Americans. We have allowed our America to
come to this point to a man who's now talking
about he wants to change the uh uh Panama Canal
to the American Canal. He wants to ship all these
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immigrants out. And some of these immigrants Bobby and arrested
and the constant and taken out. But Bobby, they're coming
right back in. I just see something on the news today.
A lot of them are coming right back in.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, well some of them they have, but the money
they have nowhere to put them.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
But the money, but the money to get hold on.
But the money to get rid of them is coming
from our taxpayer dollars. So you're just telling me we're
pissing our money. We're pissing our money to the.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
We oh we're not.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, yeah, we're still losing out. Meanwhile, the price of
gas and age and everything else is ridiculous. So it's
like I can use my money, my tax dollars to
nothing about somebody else, to plane ticket. But the bat
me one, No, it's true.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
They have there for four hundred people have already had
to be released because we have nowhere to put them.
There's there's literally no way to stash some uh. So
we took the money. We collected these people, non violent felons,
and we had let them go. You know, I we'll
come back next Tuesday when the when the beds open up.
(13:04):
They've got Guantanamo Bay going uh And I do I
have no problem with Guantanama.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I know a lot of people do.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
If that's where If you're emptying the violent felons out
of our prisons and you're putting them somewhere, I have
no problem with with them going to Guantanamo.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You know, they shouldn't be They shouldn't be here anyway.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I don't want to pay, as I said, the forty
eight thousand last week, to house them. Send them back
where they where they came from if they can't behave
here in this country.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
But Guantanamo Bay is notorious for being such a wretched
and horrible, horrible place. And I'm not I'm not saying
that if you did a horrible crab, you probably don't
deserve that. But what about the ones who haven't the
innocence that he's shipping over there. They were just immigrants,
they didn't commit terrible Well.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It's supposed to be at this time, because sometimes he
missays things, it is only supposed to be the violent felons,
not even the non violent felons. It's suposed to down there,
it's supposed to just be the violent fairfelon.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
So we'll say, you say, hold on, you say he
missed this thing. It's kind of like he's going to
take over the Goaza strip. You know he miss it.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Did you see when he said that? Did you see
net Nyahu's face like this wasn't in the script? Can
you imagine a country just giving it over to us,
like the Middle East doesn't hate us enough as it
is that, you know, the big bad American. We think
we're better than everybody else. Now this blowhod has to
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go and say something like that. And we won't even
make Puerto Rico a full state because of their death,
and they have to become solvent.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
What does God have to offer us?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
And never mind Netnyavut wants the land, It makes absolutely
it was the silliest thing whenever he goes off script.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Sweet Jesus, that's what his people must be saying, Oh God,
he did it again.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And and we have said or I have said this
with you on this podcast for at least a couple
of months. Just let him speak for three or four minutes.
He never says this is why, and this is my
only thought. This is my thought. This is not Bobby
staut or iHeart or laugh and learn black effect. This
is for me. I think that the underplay for the
old play, for the underplay was they needed Trump's popularity
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to win the presidency when they really did want bands
to be the president. Because he's young, he thinks like them,
he will listen, he will not go off script, and
he can be controlled. You cannot control Trump because Trump
thinks that he controls everything. So I truly believe that
Trump will not make it through a whole year as
a president. Not like he's not gonna be a live
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or anything. But they used his popularity to get those
votes to get him in that position, just because they
knew they were gonna get somebody who was not a
hot head, somebody who could be controlled, who could be
told what to do, because they still everybody answers to somebody,
you can't Trump what to do. I kind of see that,
Bobby to me, and I could be wrong, but that
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is what I see with this time situation. Because yeah,
because now you're even seeing that some of the Republicans
that are giving him pushback like with this whole God's thing.
He's like, no, he's And then Joe Biden for them
to say that he was as crazy as he was
or he was incapacitating man when him putting all of
those federal judges in position before he left, they've been
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road blocking and stopping Trump here left and right, this way,
that way. So Biden played his hand, and he played
it well if you ask me, but with this one anyway,
with this position, but this is it sounds a little
fishy to be Bobby. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
He certainly took care of the people that he cared
about and the people he thought were going to be
left behind with all the silly rhetoric that he's going
after you, and although look at him, he is going
somebody's going after the FBI people. You know, we have
thousands of the FBI people of the you know, men
and women, don't know what you call them, all CALLGUS agents.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I guess that are that.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Are kind of on the chopping block from for doing
their own job. I was watching Chris Christy on This
Week with Jeorge Chefanopolis this week, and he was talking
about how long it takes you know, when he was
when he was governor, you know, he got to learn,
you know, a lot, a lot of different information. And
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he says it takes eighteen months for an FBI agent
to go through the whole process of the training process,
and then they're a new FBI agent that doesn't have
all the information and all the plays yet, right, they
have to kind of apprentice under somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's my word, not his.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So if he's trying, he's looking to get rid of
fifteen hundred or whatever the number is that he's looking
that did the investigation of January sixth, their job, and
he's looking to get rid of who's what is that
going to do for our for our world safety? Like,
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who's gonna fill There'll be nobody left? What's it going
to go to McDonald's When he's picking up his burger.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Hey, do you like to wear a suit?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, who's going to protect America? If we so busy
fighting with each other, Because it looks like the racism
in this country is winning over everything else. So if
we're so busy fighting with each other in the civil War,
we're just sitting ducks to our enemies. Who's already ready
to pounce. They already see us as weak and broken
and displaced. And what the media is not covering is
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it is so many protests all over the world about
this new administration. They are protesting everywhere, but the media,
the American media is not really covering that.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
No, everybody, because it's embarrassing if they did, I mean
what they think of Trump unfortunately, and the stupid stuff.
And I misquoted everybody. It's not fifteen hundred, it's five
thousand people that investigated that he's looking to probably cut,
which I don't even know how many FBI agents we have,
it's probably have the workforce, for the love of God.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And now and now with him saying that he wants
to do a buyout for all the federal workers because
he wants to get rid of it. When is and
that deadline is coming to much.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's a hold. It was, it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's supposed to be midnight tonight, but that's a federal
judge put it on a hole and said no, So
we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So he's being stopped like he's trying to throw like
pasta on the walls, you know, and see what sticks.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
He's he's a lot of the stuff. He just doesn't
have the right to do it. But we've already said this,
you know, in the past two weeks he's been in
it's gonna cost us a fortune for all of these
legal fees that we're going to have to again, money
that's just being kind of pitdled away.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It could be put somebodywhere else.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
It could be North Carolina that had the catastrophe, the
fires in California. I'd rather see people getting fed than
Attorney's going to fight stuff that he just doesn't have
the right to do.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
It's just I mean, like, oh God, look at Mosque,
I mean, our new I don't know if he's a
tried president.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I don't know what you call him. He's not a
vice president. Trying to get rid of that the USA
I D. And strangely enough, he Chris Cuomo is just.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Doing a piece on it yesterday that usaai D is
actually investigating Musque on a deal that they had.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Isn't that interesting.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's the first group that he's going after, and they
have less than one percent of the budget, you know,
it's all foreign eight. Less than one percent of the budget.
Is the usai D So why would you go after them?
Go after something more meedy that's going to show. But
he's trying to get rid of them.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It makes you think that, like, how much money is enough? Money?
Elon Musk is worth five hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's not about money right now, it's about billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I understand that it's about power. But with this power,
they're trying to acquire so much money. So I understanding
that this world is to have and have nuts, But
I understand how much do you have to have to
say that I've finally arrived? He is the richest man
on the planet financially, how much do you have to
have to be able to say that I've arrived. I
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got enough? You know, even if you're not gonna help
nobody else. Is there no number?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't think there are. You know, these are people
that are they're kind of built a little differently. He's
God bless him, he's built a little differently.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I believe.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I have read that he is on the spectrum right,
So he's a genius because they you know, usually they
are if they're aspergers, but they don't have a lot
of social cues and he's clearly missing the social cue.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean, just look a lot. Look at DEI, right,
they're getting rid of DEI.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
They set that down. That's something that just kind of
puts us all on a level of playing field. But
there are and this is where are guys we have
This is where we exert our power. So there are
many companies that are still fully invested. Nike, Gap, Old Navy, Adidas, Puma, Levi, Senti, Airbnb, Delta,
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I love my Delta, United Disney, Pinterest, Uber, you can
go on, I could. I could keep reading them, Ben
and Jerry's, Macy's, Nordstrum, Dollar Tree, Apple, these shop there,
so you know, get your stuff at Macy's. You might
not go somewhere else. You know, Walgreens is the pharmacy.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You notice the other Bandman's Microsoft, look, Cinnabon, jam Moe, Southwest, Old, Navy,
norths Strum, I do love me a dollar Tree, well, Apple,
So there are some, like you said, but there are
some places falling for And here's the hurt part, because
I see the thing that he's set in an executive order.
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Donald Trump's signed an executive order today for low income
and public housing. Now, he said and they're supposed to
go in the twenty twenty six, so some of these
people will have less than two years to get together.
But if you're removing di which a lot of people
don't understand that a lot of white women really profit
from DEI, a lot of Caucasian women.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Probably women across the board, right, you know, it protects
so and if you remove.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That and then these people can't work and or can't
work a job where it's enough to pay this astronomical
economy that we're facing that's really coming like a damn hurricane,
like a tsunami, then what do you want? But remember
that ever since President Trump got in office, privatized prisons,
the stockcasts were past astronomically. They're going to make it
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illegal to be homeless, and they put you in prison,
but then they're gonna have you. You can't get a
job because of you black, or because you're Asian, or
because you're Latino, or because you're gay, or because whatever
whatever discrepancy they want to hold up against you, So
you have no other option but to be homeless, because
what are you gonna do? It is it is it
just sounds like it's all set up like a domb
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no fit for us as American citizens that are not
part of the halves to absolutely lose.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
It is a separation of them. I mean, Joe Biden
Bliss's heart was trying to get rid of private prisons.
He said, is no place you know, there's no place
here for them. It's if we're putting them in jail,
we should be the ones that are monitoring them, you know,
because you don't want to find them out for free
labor either. You know, it's one thing to have free
labor so that the prison runs. Remember they used to.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Do when we were a little kids, license plates.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Right, so because that was that was something that was
made for the system, for our system, to make our
government golong. But these people are they're making somebody else rich.
It's not for to make the system go on.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
And I have a friend in the prison system right now.
If the going rate, he told me right now, is
a dollar a day, oh yeah, it's so, it's definitely
slave laboring. It's slave labor a dollar a day. But
y'all because a lot of people who voted for Trump,
holler stimulus check. You get seventy five cent a day
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at the stimulus check. But now you're in prison with
no freedom, no liberties. You're being told what to do,
when to do, how to do it, and where to
do it before a whole extra quarter because you voted
for him, because you thought you was gonna get a
stimulus check. No, but you do get three. You do
get three free meals. What you're gonna eat? I wouldn't,
I wouldn't feed to my dogs, but you will get
three free meals.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, because the.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Old prisons were under FDA, like, they had all sorts
of guidelines that they had to follow.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It was like having school food. But now they don't
have to do anything.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Remember this is all thirty secs of the executive Order
so far that President Trump has signed are directly from
Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
The piece that he never read. I do believe he
never read it. I think that his problem.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I don't even I don't think he reads the crayon
he did it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I don't think, well, I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I really think he's got like an add problem. And
I do too, so I get I'm not blaming him fat,
but I don't think he can get through. He's not
disciplined enough to actually read and get through.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
He kicks his him.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
He gets it like orally he gets his information. But
you know, if he's got thirty six, that's pretty he's
bands transgender kids from or you know, women from playing
in sports. You know that's directly from there being in
the troops, that's directly from there.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So you know it's okay. So now you know, you
know I'm about to open my mouth on this. Yeah.
So as far as it goes with the transgender troops,
I I mean with the military, I don't like that.
I think that because if you want to serve the country,
and you should, you should be able to because some
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people feel very patriotic that way a and they should
be discriminated against male or female or however they identify.
As far as the sports, saying sitting on the Rectors
Club in twenty nineteen, and they tried to kill the
messenger that I did not think that we should it
was fair to have transgender women compete against biological women,
not only because I'm a daughter, but because I'm a
transgender woman, and I understand the different levels of our
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strength that what have you, the physicalities, the way we
even think with our hearts and mind. But another thing
was I kept saying, I did have a I had
a solution of creating a lane, but we put they
pushed so hard to get transgender women in women's sports
that now they're banned from playing the Olympics at all.
When all you had to do was create a lane
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for transgender athletes and we would have that opportunity if
are the ones who are actual athletes to play in
a place where they were safe, where it was you
know it just yes, And they just did not get
what I was saying. And I know sometimes I can
say speak a little aggressively and it might not come
out the way you want to get it. But if
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you shut up and listen to the message I was saying,
but you hear me.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Now, yeah, no, I mean that said, do we think
that anybody that's transgender or anybody that's anything to be
able to have everything that everybody? Of course we do,
But the reality is it's it's unfortunate that some people
just don't see it that way. So if you go
slow and steady, like the like the tortoise, I think
you you get a little bit more. Let people get
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used to you. Let people it's unfortunate, you know. So
now it's like an ink, which just it looks, I
don't know, just so discriminatory. I just I can't stand it.
But did you see that Musk's one of his minions
got in and got some of the information for the
for the Treasury. I think that they got there. Yeah,
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and they they they're kind of racist and had a
bunch of stuff on their social media.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Donald Trump appointed who he wanted to qualified for these
hysics maybe brillian at what he does, yeah, all his
other stuff, but not he But he has asked Burgers
as Berger's being feel crowded with Asbergers when he Trump's rallies.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I don't know if it's I'm saying that because I'm
guessing because he is brilliant, so I'm guessing usually asked Burgers.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You know, they they're not great socially.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
That was a hypothetical question because people who have asked, very,
very very don't want no crowds, no groups. So what
they're saying on the media because this is not as we.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah that you just said a Trump told you.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
He did tell everybody.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
He absolutely told everybody what he was going to do,
and people are kind of shocked. And I think that
the I've been watching the news and I'm watching the Democrats,
and it's so outraged, and we'll just do something about it.
Fix your messaging, get a plan, work for stop at
the outrage. You already knew what he was going to do.
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He wants to get rid of the Department of Education, right,
so a lot of stuff is going to end up
getting dismantled, not headstart. You know, there are no there
are a number of programs because they're state funded as well,
that aren't.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But you know, don't get.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Poor people all upset who don't have a plot to
pissent or a window to throw it out, thinking their
kids aren't going to get exactly what it means that loans.
You know, there's a whole bunch of things that will
go away. Don't over don't blow it up and again
fix it. Let's get the house in the sad back
in two years.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
What's the plan for that. I haven't heard anybody talking
about that flame, you know, anybody from the dem side.
I haven't fix it.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I completely agree with you, Bobby, and I'm telling you
right now. I told you at the top of this year,
when when when Trump won, I'm gonna have to switch
my party. I'm really going to have to break away
from the Democrats because I don't like the weakness. I
don't know if it's fear, I don't because they don't
show fear to us publicly. I don't know what's going
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on privately, but publicly they're not protecting us. And we
went over beyond overboard and backwards for the Democratic Party
so many times. I don't think we've we've been this
crazy about what's going on since uh President Obama that
we came out and drove to vote for. But they
just don't seem to care about us, Bobby, And I
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don't mean it like that, but I mean that they
have no oof. They don't have they don't have any gumption,
they don't have any courage they let them. They have
no strategy, no plan. I'm with you, Bobby. We should
hear about what they're setting up to do now. Because
Donald Trump has made thirty six executive orders in two weeks,
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some shit that would take four years, if not two
terms for another president. Why we can't do that? Why
the Democrats can come in gangster like that.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's it's the plan, it's the I don't know. I
just I'm so sick of hearing about how he is worse.
Then we all know everybody Helen tell her if she
was alive, would know that he was worse than anybody else.
But that's not fixing it. Okay, So how are you
going to change it? What are we gonna do? Exactly?
What have we done in the past? Where were our
(32:59):
mistakes made? Let's let's get some transparency, and how are
we going to move forward? You know, I don't, It's
it's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Excuse me. I keep saying I'm going to become an
independent because I'm like disgusted.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I just can't. Uh yeah, or undecided, because I'm right now, Bobby,
I'm undecided. I'm not rolling with the Trump campaign. I'm not.
I don't like any of the things. I don't like
that they're stopping, uh that apparent Apparently, according to the media,
he's going to stop HIV medication for people who have HIV.
(33:31):
Uh you could do that? I mean, that's that's well. Listen,
you know how I think he can do it. I'm not.
I'm with you, Bobby, that they're gonna they may fight
him on it, but you know how I think he
can do it because they they were. He was given
every branch of government, including the police, the military, and
the Supreme Court, and they handed it to him on
the Nobody wants That's.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
How I think a huge disease like that going to
Nobody wants to go back to the eighties plane because
right now, because of the men's nobody dies from AIDS anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You know, in comparison, it's so little. They live with it.
They live a long healthy life. Now, I don't know
about the magic they might remember.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Let me change that on you for you, Bobby, I'm
gonna push give you a little pushback on that. And
you said nobody dies from it. But they also put
out a few years ago that we were overpopulated in
this world by about eight three billion, So you know,
and you hate to think like that diabolical. But now
(34:32):
look at all the stuff that's coming out about the
CoviVac saying, I don't know what, you don't know what
to believe. And that is the problem when we don't know,
But we look to our leaders and we look to
our people that we put in office to tell us
and to be honest with us and to keep us
in frisk. That is what is getting scary. In this
country because you don't know who to trust. The ones
we put all that faith in scary they don't gonna
(34:54):
do shit. And the ones who we who they did
vote for because I didn't vote for him, I voted
for her. Who did you get in the office a madman?
Good God? They all over to the and women.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, I mean we have to do something he's but
we have to also not get crazy like some of
the stuff he's going on about how great immigration is,
and he's the birthright citizenship, he's getting rid of it.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
We've already had a judge block it. They've already been.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Murmuring supposedly from the Supreme Court. It's not it's in
our constitution. It's been there forever. He's got more people
that are being deported by the day ever in history.
He's the same numbers if we research it as President
Obama had. So he's still not you know, for all,
(35:39):
he just just blusters and he talks, and we all
have to kind of like have a blind put a
blind dye to it, and look what he's actually doing.
I can still tell you, while he is being a
little transparent, it's going to be a little more painful
for a little bit of time. He hasn't done anything
for us middle people yet. There's nothing the gas prices
(35:59):
of their say is when Joe was here, the egg
prices have gone up a bunk like we could go down.
He hasn't done anything for us yet. So that's what
you pay attention to. And democratic leadership. If you were listening,
if we're lucky enough to have you listen, get you know,
shopping your pencil and brush off your paper and get
a plan.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Two years goes buying a blank.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Well, listen, listen. Just him saying that we're gonna feel
a little pain, as if he has ever experienced any
kind of pain financially. I know he had many businesses
that went bankrupted on but he always came out like
a cat and landed on his feet because somebody else
have saved him or to him out. So just for
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him to say that pain, listen, you gave it would
be crazy by me. When people cannot afford to feed
their families, they will rob you going to the grocery store,
they will follow you home. It will get outrageous and
then not I don't think that they're considering that people
get there desperate to look out for their families and
(37:02):
themselves and their loved ones. Yeah, I don't think they're
considering it. I think they just don't care.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Now he's on Yeah, short term pain. That was I
think that was his expression. With these tariffs, that's what
we're talking about. You know, the last time they had tariffs,
you know, it put us into the depression. It made
things worse.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You just it's not how you can't get rid of
income tax. You can't do it this way.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
We just it's just taking it from one system and
you're putting it into another. We're going to pay more,
you know, the US the postal Service isn't even taking
packages from China that are under eight hundred dollars anymore.
I mean, it's but you know what we talked about
it several times. Things sometimes have to be broken in
order for in order for them to be fixed. Maybe
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people have to see that what he's talking about is nuts,
and they'll come up with another plan.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
But we're going to do something.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And hopefully my prayer is that we have enough Republicans
that will in the old God, that will say no,
just no, we've got are gonna do what they're told.
They've fallen in line. So I'm hoping that we got
enough from the old guard because it looks like they
(38:15):
just running, like I don't even want to deal with this,
I just want I only want to be bothered with it.
So they allow him to appoint all of his his minions,
and his minions think like he wants them to think
like he thinks, and that's what he wants. If you
don't think like he wants you to think, you're out.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, No, that's you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
But he's had a lot of ideas this week and
the Middle East Riviera can you imagine h Gaza is
certainly not one of them. So pay attention, pay attention
to what for these midterm elections, what people are saying,
you know, listen to the people that are saying things
that you like to hear, because so far, I'm not impressed.
(38:59):
It's the first time days I know we're going to
be nuts because that's where he's he's going to try
to make a bones.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
But yeah, I don't know. Flame.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Well, guess what, Bobby, we're gonna find out because we're
gonna be stuck in it for how long? How long
we're gonna be stuck in this?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
For solid two years.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I mean, we have to eat eat yes, and then
if the midterms, if we won, he can't get anything
done at that point.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Well with the way, with the way that Trump is
the path that he is on right now, ladies and gentlemen,
with all the destruction and the major changes he's trying
to he's trying to turn back the Civil Rights Act
of nineteen sixty four just so much. You know, it
would take probably two lifetimes for things to get back
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to what we considered what we considered before he got
in office as normal.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh, it's going to take a long time, be because
we have to.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yeah, we have to just to not to gain We've
already talked to about that, just to roll things back
to where they were.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
And so in a way, it's like a lost four
years where we could have made progress.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
And if we had somebody that was willing to promote bipartisanship,
you know, if we had a leader like that, we
could have made some games. But we at this point,
just get through it. That's how I'm feelings.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Just get through it, slo.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
What's the Virginia slims Virginia slims ad slogan? You've come
a long with baby. As American citizens, especially as a
black person in this country, we had made strats. We
have really come a long way, and we're allowing now
for somebody not to take us back ten years or
twenty years, thirty years, sixty years of progress in a
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country where we have more black we have more rich
black people and Asians and Latinos on TV that you
saw mainstream that could work and could help you and
teach you and were leaders and that people actually looked
up to and respect it, and they didn't have to
do it in hiding. Now we're gonna lose all of
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that back because of a few greedy heads that want
to have the power and a few lost souls that
fail for a bunch of oki, doke and bullshit that
different our communities and organizations and just people were pushing
down their throats and made them look at us sad ways.
You might not like the way I said what I said,
but I'm telling you right now we had made real
(41:31):
progress and just for it all to be taken away
just like that, it's very sound.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It's very sound.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
The Democratic Party needed a game plan and a strategy.
They really showed weakness because they were so busy fighting
each other that they forget that we were fighting a
real monster. We were fighting a real monster. It's true.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Well, we have to do better, people, and we all
everybody to vote. You can't, you know, stay home because
you don't think.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
That don't work no more. Bobby, did you hear what
Donald Trump, your president said? He said that. Oh my god,
my friend Elon Musk Oh, he went down and he
you know, you know, he's a whiz with those voting
count of machines, and he just worked on it and
he recruited people. And oh yeah, we won by a landslide.
But nowhere in history has any president ever won all
the swing states in a landslide. Never.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I don't know if it's if there was anything anything
crazy going on. I did see polls and the writing
was sort of on the wall. People were angry. The
Democrats were not coming out. They thought everybody was doing
their homeworkor like we do. So when they said the
economy was good, they knew people were suffering day to day,
but they just thought people would look at the global
(42:49):
market and see that we're doing so much better than
everybody else.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, that's not what people wanted to hear, so you know,
we got to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
We got a lot of people in the bullpen that
that Shapiro will be good, Gavin Newsom would be great.
Hakeem Jeffreys is definitely a leader. That who is I
always forget her name, the lady from Michigan. She's terrific.
We got we got people who can do the job.
We just need somebody to package it. We need a
good marketer.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
They got to stop waiting till the eleventh hour, Like Jesus, listen,
we had ten fifty nine fifty nine. Y'all got to
come on with it.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yep, exactly right.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah, and listen, we are we are intercrine ladies and
gentlemen and laugh and learn land. But we are also survivors.
And for those who don't know how to survive, understand
that we all have to tighten own bells. When they
say it's gonna be painful, that is a nice way
of saying that a lot of people are gonna really suffer.
Behind this being this we're gonna have we may have
(43:46):
to live two three family and families in an apartment. Yeah,
that's the way we're gonna We're gonna have to go
back to something that you guys don't understand, but you're
gonna have to learn to understan saying it, because that
is where they're gonna put us.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, mac and cheese, Mac and cheese.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
And to think that all of this could have been
avoided if we would have just turned the page. And
that's because that's what she kept saying. We we and
voted differently, But I think y'all really wanted to know.
I'm looking at all these Cuban Americans and Latino Americans
that supported Trump. They had a whole little get down,
and now he is arresting them, and woo woo. It's
(44:26):
no better for you. It is no better for you
because you bettered against yourself. That is what I say
when I say you're if you're empty, somebody can pour
anything into you. He poured a lie into you, and
you believed the lie. And now you're you're a fucking
statistic because you fail for the okie, do good for you? Okay, Bobby,
(44:47):
we're gonna clod that. That's it, girl, I'm ready to
go all around page. I'm just I'm just angry. You
cannot be dumb and stupid. You have to pick one. Ladies, gentlemen,
thank you guys for joining us. This is show number
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Mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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You're age thirty five, I mean, oh.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
This is number thirty five us. Ever, thank you guys
for rolling with us for thirty five episodes. We got
a few more before we looking at season five, and
we could not have gotten this far without my threat,
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my beautiful co host Bobby Clifford, how that's going. It's
going well, Bobby Clifford. I am in a good mood today,
even though I'm looking at the news and they trying
to put me in a bad mood. I'm fighting with everything.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I guess that's what you have to do, because what
is it distractions?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So I was just a lot of talk and a
lot of nonsense.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, we're Americans. We got to fight back. We got
to stand up. Just like animals. Your corner animal animal
fights you back, They're gonna fight back. That's what we do.
But I had a good week, Bobby. I'm glad to
be back this week here. We got a lot to
talk about. We got a lot to cover as far
as what is happening with this new administration and their takeaways,
because they trying to do the takeaways. They trying to
(02:43):
take away everything. But we ain't gonna even get started
on that. First. This is also Black History Month, so
I want to say and I am going to acknowledge
as many black historians as I can. It's so many
to look at. I was watching Birth of a Nation
the other night, and it was the story of Nat Turner, who,
as a black guy, he was a slave, but he
rebelled against his slave masters. He killed fifty five white
(03:08):
slave masters and women and children, but we lost like
bas According to a history book, they said they killed
her like a thousand people behind him rebelling. But the
story was just so compelling that it's just like you
got somebody got fed up and just pushed back. I'm
hoping that it's not what happens in our country, even
though I will say that for myself, but I'm hoping
(03:30):
that it's not that we don't even have to come
to the blows like that, that this country comes to
a sense, but to a census. But from what I
can see right now, the damn show ain't coming to
a census because they are appointing anybody you could find
the most unqualified maniacs to put in these positions of
power in this administration. So I don't know, Bobby, You
know RFK I interviewed. I did not think he was
(03:53):
gonna get passed. But so far he's he's looking like
he on the plus side his seat. So it is toasty, Gabbert.
So I don't know, Bobby. These are these are mad
being and mad woman. Let me say this for the record,
these are your people, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
That RFK Jr. I don't know he's he's a different
type of fella. But I don't think he's an evil person.
I think he's somebody that is just looking for popularity
and some sort of power. I don't feel that he
is the If this was environmental, because he's an environmental attorney,
I think maybe he would be qualified. I don't think
he's qualified for the job. I think he's got things,
(04:29):
I like, get the junk out of food, but he
just doesn't want He keeps saying he is not an
anti vaxxer, but he won't he won't commit to following
the science, you know, like so, but yeah, you know
I can't. Even when I saw Clarence Thomas swearing in Christy, No,
(04:51):
I have to tell you, I got a little sick
of my mouth.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Well, I want to say this about RFK Jr. Because
when I did interview him, I don't know whether he was,
you know, sugarcoat and how he really felt about things
while he was talking to me or have you. But
I just didn't get that from him. And you know,
I'm a pretty good judge of character. I really got
authenticity from him, and when it comes down to the
whole vaccine thing. I've never been anti vaccine, but some
(05:16):
of his points if you sit down and research how
he's saying about the autism that became so much more
popular after vaccines, after all these different bas and it
kind of makes you sit back and like, you know,
let me research them for myself to get to understand
what he's saying because statistically, and I'm not giving RFK
like I'm jumping on the side, but I hear him
(05:38):
and I understand where he's coming from, especially as a
parent of children, that you want to know what they're
putting in your kids' body as well as your own body,
because I've had vaccines, Bobby, I've had all kind of vaccines.
I didn't take the COVID vaccine because I didn't trust
how fast it came out. But I do get his
point of how it looks statistically that from nineteen is nineteen,
(06:00):
what seventy nine or eighty vaccines have just the autism
rate has really jumped up in absolutely because of so
many different vaccines.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So I will it's not the vaccines.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I mean, one of the things with autism is it's
kind of coincidental. It shows in a child at a
certain time, a certain timeframe. It just happens to coordinate
around the same age as you give some certain vaccines.
But it has been disproven that vaccines have nothing to
do with autism. Maybe some of the stuff in our food,
(06:31):
you know, they are looking into it because it got
it has kind of exploded.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I think we also have ways.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You know, you used to have a little billy that
was in class that was a little odd and we
really didn't know what it was. But there are ways
that we can tell the stuff now, you know, and
doctors are more in tune with it. But I just
don't think you get a whole population. You know, when
you're a young parent, you want everything for your kid,
and you to have people not vaccinating. This is something
(07:00):
that they might have heard from him with the possibility
of somebody getting sick, you know, Measles is a real thing.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It could be a killer in some kids.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
So I just think he's he just wouldn't commit to
a few things that I didn't like. Senator Warren from
Massachusetts was asking him he makes money, you know, setting
up legal cases and whatnot, and she said, obviously you
won't be doing that while you're in office, And he said, oh,
of course I won't. And she says, well, can you
commit to us that for four years after, which is
(07:30):
you know non competes and stuff are very similar to that,
that you won't be involved in any of the cases
that you're involved with. And he wouldn't do it while
you're in house, and he wouldn't do it, so you know,
he could be trumming the waters from himself.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So all while they are being grilled to get these seats,
they are so evasive with the questions from what's what's
the new one's name? Cash cash Matie and uh uh
Hicks Saith and they are so evasive. But they learn
(08:06):
that from watching their leader, because their leader is evasive
with the with the answers to the.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Question heard him once as her question flam have you
actually when somebody asks a question, have you heard him
actually answer it?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yes, he will answer. He'll answer the question. If he's
about to attack you, if he's about to go after you,
he won't answer the question. But then he'll flip it
real quickly go back back after you, so he doesn't
have to answer the question. But they and this is
what it is. If we are watching our leaders then
and you're going to do as they do, then this
is why they are getting He's appointing people that's going
(08:41):
to do not only what he does, but what he says. Yeah,
so we had a I mean the.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Name of the game.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I mean, I don't like I don't like BONDI she
was just confirmed. I don't like her politics. That said,
and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
That said.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I also understand him many people that are going to
back him, but I do feel like she's qualified to
do the job. Flame she gets it, she understands it,
She's got the qualifications. The fact that our politics don't
jibe is you know, that's neither here nor there. He's
the president and he's allowed to pick people. But when
he's putting people that I do get concerned. And he
(09:19):
has people that just they just don't have the qualifications
and they say, like like Chelsea gabbartt like kind of
crazy stuff where she doesn't denounce Pootin or any of
the things that he's done. And that kind of gives
me the hev gbis he's got a huge pot and
pool on the GOP side of very well qualified people
(09:42):
that he could pick from. I don't know why some
of the people are a little less than that. He's
that he's scooping up.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, Bobby, it is is very dishearting to see too.
And you know what bothers me, Bobby, is that they
are in these hot seats and they are going to
get asked some very heugh questions, very tough. But the
people that's asking them, some of the Democrats, because the
Republicans are not going hard on them at all. But
the Democrats that are asking them these tough questions, they
(10:13):
get off the land. They almost make it like a
shouting match. Why would you argue with me when I'm
asking you questions about a job that you were playing for.
You see what I'm saying. I might like that the
Republicans get to give the pushback. I don't think they
should be allowed to give a pushback. You knew what
you were coming in for this day, and you knew
it was going to be You're going to be up
under the light, up under the microscope. I don't think
(10:34):
that you should have the right to give me any
pushback when I'm asking you questions about pertaining to a
job that you're trying to acquire.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And answer answer the question.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Stop there at your they're doing the Trump saying, and
they're also doing the they look like an abused spouse
that is always kind of looking to the left or
looking to the right to make sure what they're saying
is okay. You know they it's well, well, President Trump,
well no, that wasn't what I was asking you. I
was asking you how you feel and are you going
(11:06):
to be loyal to the Constitution? And if he goes
against something, we know we can count on you to
put it back on the rails. That's what I'm looking
And they're kind of you know, I know they seem
a little jumpy, but you.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Know, there are positions of being filled.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
He's had a few more that have gone this week
and so far nothing horrible, but but R. F. K
Junior and Telsea Gabbert are on the Senate floor. So
we'll see. We'll see if some sensical person says no
for on the on the GOP side, for either one
of them.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, it is uh, it's preponderous viby to see that
we we we've allowed our America and when I say we,
I mean all Americans. We have allowed our America to
come to this point to a man who's now talking
about he wants to change the uh uh Panama Canal
to the American Canal. He wants to ship all these
(12:01):
immigrants out. And some of these immigrants Bobby and arrested
and the constant and taken out. But Bobby, they're coming
right back in. I just see something on the news today.
A lot of them are coming right back in.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, well some of them they have, but the money
they have nowhere to put them.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
But the money, but the money to get hold on.
But the money to get rid of them is coming
from our taxpayer dollars. So you're just telling me we're
pissing our money. We're pissing our money to the.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
We oh we're not.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, yeah, we're still losing out. Meanwhile, the price of
gas and age and everything else is ridiculous. So it's
like I can use my money, my tax dollars to
nothing about somebody else, to plane ticket. But the bat
me one, No, it's true.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
They have there for four hundred people have already had
to be released because we have nowhere to put them.
There's there's literally no way to stash some uh. So
we took the money. We collected these people, non violent felons,
and we had let them go. You know, I we'll
come back next Tuesday when the when the beds open up.
(13:04):
They've got Guantanamo Bay going uh And I do I
have no problem with Guantanama.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I know a lot of people do.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
If that's where If you're emptying the violent felons out
of our prisons and you're putting them somewhere, I have
no problem with with them going to Guantanamo.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You know, they shouldn't be They shouldn't be here anyway.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I don't want to pay, as I said, the forty
eight thousand last week, to house them. Send them back
where they where they came from if they can't behave
here in this country.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
But Guantanamo Bay is notorious for being such a wretched
and horrible, horrible place. And I'm not I'm not saying
that if you did a horrible crab, you probably don't
deserve that. But what about the ones who haven't the
innocence that he's shipping over there. They were just immigrants,
they didn't commit terrible Well.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It's supposed to be at this time, because sometimes he
missays things, it is only supposed to be the violent felons,
not even the non violent felons. It's suposed to down there,
it's supposed to just be the violent fairfelon.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
So we'll say, you say, hold on, you say he
missed this thing. It's kind of like he's going to
take over the Goaza strip. You know he miss it.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Did you see when he said that? Did you see
net Nyahu's face like this wasn't in the script? Can
you imagine a country just giving it over to us,
like the Middle East doesn't hate us enough as it
is that, you know, the big bad American. We think
we're better than everybody else. Now this blowhod has to
(14:32):
go and say something like that. And we won't even
make Puerto Rico a full state because of their death,
and they have to become solvent.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
What does God have to offer us?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
And never mind Netnyavut wants the land, It makes absolutely
it was the silliest thing whenever he goes off script.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Sweet Jesus, that's what his people must be saying, Oh God,
he did it again.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And and we have said or I have said this
with you on this podcast for at least a couple
of months. Just let him speak for three or four minutes.
He never says this is why, and this is my
only thought. This is my thought. This is not Bobby
staut or iHeart or laugh and learn black effect. This
is for me. I think that the underplay for the
old play, for the underplay was they needed Trump's popularity
(15:21):
to win the presidency when they really did want bands
to be the president. Because he's young, he thinks like them,
he will listen, he will not go off script, and
he can be controlled. You cannot control Trump because Trump
thinks that he controls everything. So I truly believe that
Trump will not make it through a whole year as
a president. Not like he's not gonna be a live
(15:43):
or anything. But they used his popularity to get those
votes to get him in that position, just because they
knew they were gonna get somebody who was not a
hot head, somebody who could be controlled, who could be
told what to do, because they still everybody answers to somebody,
you can't Trump what to do. I kind of see that,
Bobby to me, and I could be wrong, but that
(16:05):
is what I see with this time situation. Because yeah,
because now you're even seeing that some of the Republicans
that are giving him pushback like with this whole God's thing.
He's like, no, he's And then Joe Biden for them
to say that he was as crazy as he was
or he was incapacitating man when him putting all of
those federal judges in position before he left, they've been
(16:26):
road blocking and stopping Trump here left and right, this way,
that way. So Biden played his hand, and he played
it well if you ask me, but with this one anyway,
with this position, but this is it sounds a little
fishy to be Bobby. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
He certainly took care of the people that he cared
about and the people he thought were going to be
left behind with all the silly rhetoric that he's going
after you, and although look at him, he is going
somebody's going after the FBI people. You know, we have
thousands of the FBI people of the you know, men
and women, don't know what you call them, all CALLGUS agents.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I guess that are that.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Are kind of on the chopping block from for doing
their own job. I was watching Chris Christy on This
Week with Jeorge Chefanopolis this week, and he was talking
about how long it takes you know, when he was
when he was governor, you know, he got to learn,
you know, a lot, a lot of different information. And
(17:25):
he says it takes eighteen months for an FBI agent
to go through the whole process of the training process,
and then they're a new FBI agent that doesn't have
all the information and all the plays yet, right, they
have to kind of apprentice under somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's my word, not his.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So if he's trying, he's looking to get rid of
fifteen hundred or whatever the number is that he's looking
that did the investigation of January sixth, their job, and
he's looking to get rid of who's what is that
going to do for our for our world safety? Like,
(18:03):
who's gonna fill There'll be nobody left? What's it going
to go to McDonald's When he's picking up his burger.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Hey, do you like to wear a suit?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, who's going to protect America? If we so busy
fighting with each other, Because it looks like the racism
in this country is winning over everything else. So if
we're so busy fighting with each other in the civil War,
we're just sitting ducks to our enemies. Who's already ready
to pounce. They already see us as weak and broken
and displaced. And what the media is not covering is
(18:32):
it is so many protests all over the world about
this new administration. They are protesting everywhere, but the media,
the American media is not really covering that.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
No, everybody, because it's embarrassing if they did, I mean
what they think of Trump unfortunately, and the stupid stuff.
And I misquoted everybody. It's not fifteen hundred, it's five
thousand people that investigated that he's looking to probably cut,
which I don't even know how many FBI agents we have,
it's probably have the workforce, for the love of God.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And now and now with him saying that he wants
to do a buyout for all the federal workers because
he wants to get rid of it. When is and
that deadline is coming to much.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's a hold. It was, it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's supposed to be midnight tonight, but that's a federal
judge put it on a hole and said no, So
we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So he's being stopped like he's trying to throw like
pasta on the walls, you know, and see what sticks.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
He's he's a lot of the stuff. He just doesn't
have the right to do it. But we've already said this,
you know, in the past two weeks he's been in
it's gonna cost us a fortune for all of these
legal fees that we're going to have to again, money
that's just being kind of pitdled away.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It could be put somebodywhere else.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
It could be North Carolina that had the catastrophe, the
fires in California. I'd rather see people getting fed than
Attorney's going to fight stuff that he just doesn't have
the right to do.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
It's just I mean, like, oh God, look at Mosque,
I mean, our new I don't know if he's a
tried president.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I don't know what you call him. He's not a
vice president. Trying to get rid of that the USA
I D. And strangely enough, he Chris Cuomo is just.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Doing a piece on it yesterday that usaai D is
actually investigating Musque on a deal that they had.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Isn't that interesting.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's the first group that he's going after, and they
have less than one percent of the budget, you know,
it's all foreign eight. Less than one percent of the budget.
Is the usai D So why would you go after them?
Go after something more meedy that's going to show. But
he's trying to get rid of them.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It makes you think that, like, how much money is enough? Money?
Elon Musk is worth five hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's not about money right now, it's about billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I understand that it's about power. But with this power,
they're trying to acquire so much money. So I understanding
that this world is to have and have nuts, But
I understand how much do you have to have to
say that I've finally arrived? He is the richest man
on the planet financially, how much do you have to
have to be able to say that I've arrived. I
(21:18):
got enough? You know, even if you're not gonna help
nobody else. Is there no number?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't think there are. You know, these are people
that are they're kind of built a little differently. He's
God bless him, he's built a little differently.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I believe.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I have read that he is on the spectrum right,
So he's a genius because they you know, usually they
are if they're aspergers, but they don't have a lot
of social cues and he's clearly missing the social cue.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean, just look a lot. Look at DEI, right,
they're getting rid of DEI.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
They set that down. That's something that just kind of
puts us all on a level of playing field. But
there are and this is where are guys we have
This is where we exert our power. So there are
many companies that are still fully invested. Nike, Gap, Old Navy, Adidas, Puma, Levi, Senti, Airbnb, Delta,
(22:11):
I love my Delta, United Disney, Pinterest, Uber, you can
go on, I could. I could keep reading them, Ben
and Jerry's, Macy's, Nordstrum, Dollar Tree, Apple, these shop there,
so you know, get your stuff at Macy's. You might
not go somewhere else. You know, Walgreens is the pharmacy.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You notice the other Bandman's Microsoft, look, Cinnabon, jam Moe, Southwest, Old, Navy,
norths Strum, I do love me a dollar Tree, well, Apple,
So there are some, like you said, but there are
some places falling for And here's the hurt part, because
I see the thing that he's set in an executive order.
(22:51):
Donald Trump's signed an executive order today for low income
and public housing. Now, he said and they're supposed to
go in the twenty twenty six, so some of these
people will have less than two years to get together.
But if you're removing di which a lot of people
don't understand that a lot of white women really profit
from DEI, a lot of Caucasian women.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Probably women across the board, right, you know, it protects
so and if you remove.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That and then these people can't work and or can't
work a job where it's enough to pay this astronomical
economy that we're facing that's really coming like a damn hurricane,
like a tsunami, then what do you want? But remember
that ever since President Trump got in office, privatized prisons,
the stockcasts were past astronomically. They're going to make it
(23:38):
illegal to be homeless, and they put you in prison,
but then they're gonna have you. You can't get a
job because of you black, or because you're Asian, or
because you're Latino, or because you're gay, or because whatever
whatever discrepancy they want to hold up against you, So
you have no other option but to be homeless, because
what are you gonna do? It is it is it
just sounds like it's all set up like a domb
(24:00):
no fit for us as American citizens that are not
part of the halves to absolutely lose.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
It is a separation of them. I mean, Joe Biden
Bliss's heart was trying to get rid of private prisons.
He said, is no place you know, there's no place
here for them. It's if we're putting them in jail,
we should be the ones that are monitoring them, you know,
because you don't want to find them out for free
labor either. You know, it's one thing to have free
labor so that the prison runs. Remember they used to.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Do when we were a little kids, license plates.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Right, so because that was that was something that was
made for the system, for our system, to make our
government golong. But these people are they're making somebody else rich.
It's not for to make the system go on.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
And I have a friend in the prison system right now.
If the going rate, he told me right now, is
a dollar a day, oh yeah, it's so, it's definitely
slave laboring. It's slave labor a dollar a day. But
y'all because a lot of people who voted for Trump,
holler stimulus check. You get seventy five cent a day
(25:05):
at the stimulus check. But now you're in prison with
no freedom, no liberties. You're being told what to do,
when to do, how to do it, and where to
do it before a whole extra quarter because you voted
for him, because you thought you was gonna get a
stimulus check. No, but you do get three. You do
get three free meals. What you're gonna eat? I wouldn't,
I wouldn't feed to my dogs, but you will get
three free meals.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, because the.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Old prisons were under FDA, like, they had all sorts
of guidelines that they had to follow.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It was like having school food. But now they don't
have to do anything.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Remember this is all thirty secs of the executive Order
so far that President Trump has signed are directly from
Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
The piece that he never read. I do believe he
never read it. I think that his problem.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I don't even I don't think he reads the crayon
he did it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I don't think, well, I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I really think he's got like an add problem. And
I do too, so I get I'm not blaming him fat,
but I don't think he can get through. He's not
disciplined enough to actually read and get through.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
He kicks his him.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
He gets it like orally he gets his information. But
you know, if he's got thirty six, that's pretty he's
bands transgender kids from or you know, women from playing
in sports. You know that's directly from there being in
the troops, that's directly from there.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So you know it's okay. So now you know, you
know I'm about to open my mouth on this. Yeah.
So as far as it goes with the transgender troops,
I I mean with the military, I don't like that.
I think that because if you want to serve the country,
and you should, you should be able to because some
(26:51):
people feel very patriotic that way a and they should
be discriminated against male or female or however they identify.
As far as the sports, saying sitting on the Rectors
Club in twenty nineteen, and they tried to kill the
messenger that I did not think that we should it
was fair to have transgender women compete against biological women,
not only because I'm a daughter, but because I'm a
transgender woman, and I understand the different levels of our
(27:15):
strength that what have you, the physicalities, the way we
even think with our hearts and mind. But another thing
was I kept saying, I did have a I had
a solution of creating a lane, but we put they
pushed so hard to get transgender women in women's sports
that now they're banned from playing the Olympics at all.
When all you had to do was create a lane
(27:38):
for transgender athletes and we would have that opportunity if
are the ones who are actual athletes to play in
a place where they were safe, where it was you
know it just yes, And they just did not get
what I was saying. And I know sometimes I can
say speak a little aggressively and it might not come
out the way you want to get it. But if
(27:58):
you shut up and listen to the message I was saying,
but you hear me.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Now, yeah, no, I mean that said, do we think
that anybody that's transgender or anybody that's anything to be
able to have everything that everybody? Of course we do,
But the reality is it's it's unfortunate that some people
just don't see it that way. So if you go
slow and steady, like the like the tortoise, I think
you you get a little bit more. Let people get
(28:26):
used to you. Let people it's unfortunate, you know. So
now it's like an ink, which just it looks, I
don't know, just so discriminatory. I just I can't stand it.
But did you see that Musk's one of his minions
got in and got some of the information for the
for the Treasury. I think that they got there. Yeah,
(28:48):
and they they they're kind of racist and had a
bunch of stuff on their social media.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Donald Trump appointed who he wanted to qualified for these
hysics maybe brillian at what he does, yeah, all his
other stuff, but not he But he has asked Burgers
as Berger's being feel crowded with Asbergers when he Trump's rallies.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I don't know if it's I'm saying that because I'm
guessing because he is brilliant, so I'm guessing usually asked Burgers.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You know, they they're not great socially.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
That was a hypothetical question because people who have asked, very,
very very don't want no crowds, no groups. So what
they're saying on the media because this is not as we.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah that you just said a Trump told you.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
He did tell everybody.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
He absolutely told everybody what he was going to do,
and people are kind of shocked. And I think that
the I've been watching the news and I'm watching the Democrats,
and it's so outraged, and we'll just do something about it.
Fix your messaging, get a plan, work for stop at
the outrage. You already knew what he was going to do.
(30:40):
He wants to get rid of the Department of Education, right,
so a lot of stuff is going to end up
getting dismantled, not headstart. You know, there are no there
are a number of programs because they're state funded as well,
that aren't.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But you know, don't get.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Poor people all upset who don't have a plot to
pissent or a window to throw it out, thinking their
kids aren't going to get exactly what it means that loans.
You know, there's a whole bunch of things that will
go away. Don't over don't blow it up and again
fix it. Let's get the house in the sad back
in two years.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
What's the plan for that. I haven't heard anybody talking
about that flame, you know, anybody from the dem side.
I haven't fix it.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I completely agree with you, Bobby, and I'm telling you
right now. I told you at the top of this year,
when when when Trump won, I'm gonna have to switch
my party. I'm really going to have to break away
from the Democrats because I don't like the weakness. I
don't know if it's fear, I don't because they don't
show fear to us publicly. I don't know what's going
(31:42):
on privately, but publicly they're not protecting us. And we
went over beyond overboard and backwards for the Democratic Party
so many times. I don't think we've we've been this
crazy about what's going on since uh President Obama that
we came out and drove to vote for. But they
just don't seem to care about us, Bobby, And I
(32:04):
don't mean it like that, but I mean that they
have no oof. They don't have they don't have any gumption,
they don't have any courage they let them. They have
no strategy, no plan. I'm with you, Bobby. We should
hear about what they're setting up to do now. Because
Donald Trump has made thirty six executive orders in two weeks,
(32:26):
some shit that would take four years, if not two
terms for another president. Why we can't do that? Why
the Democrats can come in gangster like that.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's it's the plan, it's the I don't know. I
just I'm so sick of hearing about how he is worse.
Then we all know everybody Helen tell her if she
was alive, would know that he was worse than anybody else.
But that's not fixing it. Okay, So how are you
going to change it? What are we gonna do? Exactly?
What have we done in the past? Where were our
(32:59):
mistakes made? Let's let's get some transparency, and how are
we going to move forward? You know, I don't, It's
it's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Excuse me. I keep saying I'm going to become an
independent because I'm like disgusted.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I just can't. Uh yeah, or undecided, because I'm right now, Bobby,
I'm undecided. I'm not rolling with the Trump campaign. I'm not.
I don't like any of the things. I don't like
that they're stopping, uh that apparent Apparently, according to the media,
he's going to stop HIV medication for people who have HIV.
(33:31):
Uh you could do that? I mean, that's that's well. Listen,
you know how I think he can do it. I'm not.
I'm with you, Bobby, that they're gonna they may fight
him on it, but you know how I think he
can do it because they they were. He was given
every branch of government, including the police, the military, and
the Supreme Court, and they handed it to him on
the Nobody wants That's.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
How I think a huge disease like that going to
Nobody wants to go back to the eighties plane because
right now, because of the men's nobody dies from AIDS anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You know, in comparison, it's so little. They live with it.
They live a long healthy life. Now, I don't know
about the magic they might remember.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Let me change that on you for you, Bobby, I'm
gonna push give you a little pushback on that. And
you said nobody dies from it. But they also put
out a few years ago that we were overpopulated in
this world by about eight three billion, So you know,
and you hate to think like that diabolical. But now
(34:32):
look at all the stuff that's coming out about the
CoviVac saying, I don't know what, you don't know what
to believe. And that is the problem when we don't know,
But we look to our leaders and we look to
our people that we put in office to tell us
and to be honest with us and to keep us
in frisk. That is what is getting scary. In this
country because you don't know who to trust. The ones
we put all that faith in scary they don't gonna
(34:54):
do shit. And the ones who we who they did
vote for because I didn't vote for him, I voted
for her. Who did you get in the office a madman?
Good God? They all over to the and women.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, I mean we have to do something he's but
we have to also not get crazy like some of
the stuff he's going on about how great immigration is,
and he's the birthright citizenship, he's getting rid of it.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
We've already had a judge block it. They've already been.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Murmuring supposedly from the Supreme Court. It's not it's in
our constitution. It's been there forever. He's got more people
that are being deported by the day ever in history.
He's the same numbers if we research it as President
Obama had. So he's still not you know, for all,
(35:39):
he just just blusters and he talks, and we all
have to kind of like have a blind put a
blind dye to it, and look what he's actually doing.
I can still tell you, while he is being a
little transparent, it's going to be a little more painful
for a little bit of time. He hasn't done anything
for us middle people yet. There's nothing the gas prices
(35:59):
of their say is when Joe was here, the egg
prices have gone up a bunk like we could go down.
He hasn't done anything for us yet. So that's what
you pay attention to. And democratic leadership. If you were listening,
if we're lucky enough to have you listen, get you know,
shopping your pencil and brush off your paper and get
a plan.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Two years goes buying a blank.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Well, listen, listen. Just him saying that we're gonna feel
a little pain, as if he has ever experienced any
kind of pain financially. I know he had many businesses
that went bankrupted on but he always came out like
a cat and landed on his feet because somebody else
have saved him or to him out. So just for
(36:42):
him to say that pain, listen, you gave it would
be crazy by me. When people cannot afford to feed
their families, they will rob you going to the grocery store,
they will follow you home. It will get outrageous and
then not I don't think that they're considering that people
get there desperate to look out for their families and
(37:02):
themselves and their loved ones. Yeah, I don't think they're
considering it. I think they just don't care.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Now he's on Yeah, short term pain. That was I
think that was his expression. With these tariffs, that's what
we're talking about. You know, the last time they had tariffs,
you know, it put us into the depression. It made
things worse.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You just it's not how you can't get rid of
income tax. You can't do it this way.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
We just it's just taking it from one system and
you're putting it into another. We're going to pay more,
you know, the US the postal Service isn't even taking
packages from China that are under eight hundred dollars anymore.
I mean, it's but you know what we talked about
it several times. Things sometimes have to be broken in
order for in order for them to be fixed. Maybe
(37:46):
people have to see that what he's talking about is nuts,
and they'll come up with another plan.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
But we're going to do something.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And hopefully my prayer is that we have enough Republicans
that will in the old God, that will say no,
just no, we've got are gonna do what they're told.
They've fallen in line. So I'm hoping that we got
enough from the old guard because it looks like they
(38:15):
just running, like I don't even want to deal with this,
I just want I only want to be bothered with it.
So they allow him to appoint all of his his minions,
and his minions think like he wants them to think
like he thinks, and that's what he wants. If you
don't think like he wants you to think, you're out.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, No, that's you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
But he's had a lot of ideas this week and
the Middle East Riviera can you imagine h Gaza is
certainly not one of them. So pay attention, pay attention
to what for these midterm elections, what people are saying,
you know, listen to the people that are saying things
that you like to hear, because so far, I'm not impressed.
(38:59):
It's the first time days I know we're going to
be nuts because that's where he's he's going to try
to make a bones.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
But yeah, I don't know. Flame.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Well, guess what, Bobby, we're gonna find out because we're
gonna be stuck in it for how long? How long
we're gonna be stuck in this?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
For solid two years.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I mean, we have to eat eat yes, and then
if the midterms, if we won, he can't get anything
done at that point.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Well with the way, with the way that Trump is
the path that he is on right now, ladies and gentlemen,
with all the destruction and the major changes he's trying
to he's trying to turn back the Civil Rights Act
of nineteen sixty four just so much. You know, it
would take probably two lifetimes for things to get back
(39:49):
to what we considered what we considered before he got
in office as normal.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh, it's going to take a long time, be because
we have to.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yeah, we have to just to not to gain We've
already talked to about that, just to roll things back
to where they were.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
And so in a way, it's like a lost four
years where we could have made progress.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
And if we had somebody that was willing to promote bipartisanship,
you know, if we had a leader like that, we
could have made some games. But we at this point,
just get through it. That's how I'm feelings.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Just get through it, slo.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
What's the Virginia slims Virginia slims ad slogan? You've come
a long with baby. As American citizens, especially as a
black person in this country, we had made strats. We
have really come a long way, and we're allowing now
for somebody not to take us back ten years or
twenty years, thirty years, sixty years of progress in a
(40:48):
country where we have more black we have more rich
black people and Asians and Latinos on TV that you
saw mainstream that could work and could help you and
teach you and were leaders and that people actually looked
up to and respect it, and they didn't have to
do it in hiding. Now we're gonna lose all of
(41:09):
that back because of a few greedy heads that want
to have the power and a few lost souls that
fail for a bunch of oki, doke and bullshit that
different our communities and organizations and just people were pushing
down their throats and made them look at us sad ways.
You might not like the way I said what I said,
but I'm telling you right now we had made real
(41:31):
progress and just for it all to be taken away
just like that, it's very sound.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It's very sound.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
The Democratic Party needed a game plan and a strategy.
They really showed weakness because they were so busy fighting
each other that they forget that we were fighting a
real monster. We were fighting a real monster. It's true.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Well, we have to do better, people, and we all
everybody to vote. You can't, you know, stay home because
you don't think.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
That don't work no more. Bobby, did you hear what
Donald Trump, your president said? He said that. Oh my god,
my friend Elon Musk Oh, he went down and he
you know, you know, he's a whiz with those voting
count of machines, and he just worked on it and
he recruited people. And oh yeah, we won by a landslide.
But nowhere in history has any president ever won all
the swing states in a landslide. Never.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I don't know if it's if there was anything anything
crazy going on. I did see polls and the writing
was sort of on the wall. People were angry. The
Democrats were not coming out. They thought everybody was doing
their homeworkor like we do. So when they said the
economy was good, they knew people were suffering day to day,
but they just thought people would look at the global
(42:49):
market and see that we're doing so much better than
everybody else.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, that's not what people wanted to hear, so you know,
we got to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
We got a lot of people in the bullpen that
that Shapiro will be good, Gavin Newsom would be great.
Hakeem Jeffreys is definitely a leader. That who is I
always forget her name, the lady from Michigan. She's terrific.
We got we got people who can do the job.
We just need somebody to package it. We need a
good marketer.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
They got to stop waiting till the eleventh hour, Like Jesus, listen,
we had ten fifty nine fifty nine. Y'all got to
come on with it.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yep, exactly right.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah, and listen, we are we are intercrine ladies and
gentlemen and laugh and learn land. But we are also survivors.
And for those who don't know how to survive, understand
that we all have to tighten own bells. When they
say it's gonna be painful, that is a nice way
of saying that a lot of people are gonna really suffer.
Behind this being this we're gonna have we may have
(43:46):
to live two three family and families in an apartment. Yeah,
that's the way we're gonna We're gonna have to go
back to something that you guys don't understand, but you're
gonna have to learn to understan saying it, because that
is where they're gonna put us.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, mac and cheese, Mac and cheese.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
And to think that all of this could have been
avoided if we would have just turned the page. And
that's because that's what she kept saying. We we and
voted differently, But I think y'all really wanted to know.
I'm looking at all these Cuban Americans and Latino Americans
that supported Trump. They had a whole little get down,
and now he is arresting them, and woo woo. It's
(44:26):
no better for you. It is no better for you
because you bettered against yourself. That is what I say
when I say you're if you're empty, somebody can pour
anything into you. He poured a lie into you, and
you believed the lie. And now you're you're a fucking
statistic because you fail for the okie, do good for you? Okay, Bobby,
(44:47):
we're gonna clod that. That's it, girl, I'm ready to
go all around page. I'm just I'm just angry. You
cannot be dumb and stupid. You have to pick one. Ladies, gentlemen,
thank you guys for joining us. This is show number
thirty five. We really appreciate you. Please tell your friends
to download Laugh Along on iHeart, under the Black Effect Network, Spotify, Apple, Amazon,
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(45:09):
and my co host Bobby Clifford will be right there
to give you what we know, how we know, and
the way we know it. We won't always get along,
but we will always agree because that's what we are Americans,
and here Left and Learn we have the same model.
It will never change. Here at laft alone, we are
not trying to get you to change your mind. We
are only trying to get you to use your mind,
(45:31):
because why about a.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And where can they follow you at Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
They can follow me at Bobby Clifford on Facebook, Clifford
Bobby on Instagram. I don't know how far we are
into the seventy five days on TikTok, but I'm Bobby
Clifford on that as well.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
And if you have stories or ideas.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yes, please go to the Laugh and Learn podcast on
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Speaker 3 (46:00):
Bobby, no new pictures, y'all know, had none it quite
some time. She ain't gonna know what to do.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
With And I haven't had that for some time. And
I've been very appreciative that I haven't had to have
a stroke.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
And you can follow me on all social media platforms.
That's flame my rod. I do coffee time in the
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with us and right with us. Thank you to our
producer Aaron Howard. Four years we'll laugh and learn. We're
hoping that another year coming to some politics ain't gonna stop.
The politics ain't gonna stop. And uh listen, we're all
(46:32):
in this together. When the Titanic went down, some of
the rich people got off, but a lot of rich
people died. They same with the with the with the
poor people. We are all on this ship right down.
And we'll tell you right now, we got to get
us some big old oars, because some big old paddles.
Because good guy, here we go. Okay, Bobby Clifford, if
nobody ain't told you today, I'm Materia. I love you,
and I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
I love you.
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