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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We say, if you watch your coffee time the baby
you know the name Flame my bro also known as
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with you love loundes.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Baby, you better catch it when you can drop a
knowledge from fatherhood to politics.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Shouting now comics, just paying homage.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What's up? Tests?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah you know she raised shout towns on speaking to
the grown a second year.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We're gonna laugh, cut him and kick it in.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
At the end we leave it with just a list
you firirits, but you want to revisit so your first
second listen, young folks say it's list, Oh folks that
we dig it? Goodky, no thish do what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Y no peace, do what you do? Cany no plea
do what I do?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No do what you please?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Me?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian Flameo Roe and welcome
to episode fifty one of season four of Laugh and Learn.
I am here and I'm not here alone. I am
here like gorgeous co host Miss Bobby Cliff, and hi
to h you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Make my day every time you see that. If you
guys could see me, I am a sweatball. It is
ninety degrees here in Boston. It went from sixty to ninety.
It happens every year. The people they have their heads
up the rest they say there's no climate change, and
I am I'm telling you, if I had ball, say
be sweating right now.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm loving you in your Irish green Bobby Klea, you
look very Bostonian, Irishian?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
What is it? Irishian?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Look?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I am so glad we're here. This is Listen, lady
and genterm Thank you guys so much for joining us.
We are almost to the end of this season. And
thank you to Black Effect, to Shop God, to Dolly Bishop,
and to our producer Aaron because we have a season
five that we are very proud to say that we
made it.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Oooh never would have made it. But just getting nervous.
What today? This is? So? This is June is a
couple of June is a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
June is Black music month, June is also what else
is June about?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Eight months during Pride Month, Yeah, which you'll always say,
You're always.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Proud, I'm always proud. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
We just finished Mental health Awareness in May. We just
buttoned that up. They have a few things that are
going on for Pride months and tell me if this
isn't a pile of chet. Did you see that Hagsath
supposedly is going to have one one of the ships
named the Hobby Milk.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Really, and let me tell you what my biggest issue
with that is.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yes, Harvey Milk was openly gay. He was the he
was the mayor of San Francisco. But Harvey Milk served
in the military. He fought for his country and it
did day didn't acts of his sexuality, and he did
two terms.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I think it was they.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Discharged him though when they found out a sexuality he
got the book.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, but the but the fact that he did do it,
and then he continued, Yes, but he continued to fight.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He got into politics to make a difference for the
LGBT community at that time. He will the powerhouse.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Unfortunately he was assassinated by a rival in San Francisco.
But what his impact on the world, on the community,
and on the military should not be raised. They're also
trying to remove Harriet Tubman's name from thinking. This administration
is bonkers with thinking that you can erase history that
has already been made. I saw that, Bobby, and I
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thought that was quite They want to remove Harvey Milk's
name off the off of that and and so many
other people.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Why is he doing this? Like for what kind of
political fodder? Like what what benefit is he getting? We
know what he thinks, he's not the.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Hold on, hold on, we don't know what he accept
things because he don't know what he thinks because the
rumor has and he accepts is at the bottom of
a bottle.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, if he's not there, and that's that's what we've
been hearing, that's what that's what the little creases in
the doorway are telling us. But they're saying he's he's
lufton Waite's and the new Jimmy had put in and
he's doing this and that, And I just thought, you're
gonna I love the idea of putting Harvey Milk's same
on it. But you think under President Trump and this
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administration that are putting they're not even putting don't ask,
don't tell back in, they're just pulling people. It's a
bunch of lip service.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I just definitely it is definitely underplay for the overplay
because they're trying to smoke screening because he wants to
make it look good on one side, but the ulterior
motive is definitely how you're gonna put Harvey Milk's name
on the submarine on the ship, but you're removing all
the gay and transgender people out of the Militaryah, it's.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Crazy, since that's what I'm saying. I mean, because they.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Say he is about who the source, think about the source,
who it is, So that's why they'll make sense.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It doesn't, so I don't. I don't get of all
the people. I mean they're named after also the civil
rights leaders. I love that, But I just thought he
deserves it. I mean, he was put out. Maybe he
would have been a navy man or an army man
or whatever he was in the navy, I believe maybe
he would have stayed in the service his entire life
and served that way.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
If he didn't, well, please, what we found out was
he was the milkman. It doesn't work together.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But that was I lobbed it to you. We didn't
even we didn't. Yeah, I saw that a federal judge
ordered the Trump administration they have to continue providing gender
affirming care. That's another thing. You know, how he's stopping
all the care if it's undo medicaid, uh for a
transit little that's not going he's tying us. And then
we have a million other cases tonight that we'll discuss,
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not a million, ins of course exaggeration, but multiple cases
where he's signing up for stuff, he's telling us what
he's going to do, and then it goes to court
because you can't do everything by the executive you know,
by just the executive order. So it's just he's he's
he's such an I just said even.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Hair except is definitely in a position that he does
not deserve and he is definitely not qualifying for.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But he's there.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Nevertheless, is a the ssside director. Do you see two
weeks ago Trump gave him the job. He had to
look it up, he had to google it to see
what the job was. And he admits it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Speaking of admitting, speaking of admitting, the girls are fighting,
the children are fighting. Bobby Clifford, I just want to
say this before we get into it, because Bobby's gonna
go deep into it. I just need to say this
from my perspective, because there was such a big hooplah
about so many people who would not vote for Kamala
Harris because their philosophy was, you don't want to put
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an emotional woman in the White House. She's emotional. He's
not equipped to do the job because of her emotion.
But you got the richest man in the world and
the President of the United States fighting like two year
old toddlers, like little booger kid that was putting the
Elon Musk, that was putting the boogers on the desk. So, now,
who's wrong on this? Cause from when I see Petty,
(08:08):
Patty is about to tell everything, which is Elon Musk, and.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Donald Trump is hot about it. I'm waiting.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We did predicaous on that and learn when this first happened.
We said it would be like like six months. It's
only like five.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Six it's thirty sex. That's because you knew. You can't
have two alphas or two people who want to be
alphas vying for the same and you can't bring somebody
in to the White House, to the Oval office and
turn the case. It's just not going to work.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
He is a showman, the most showman. I'm also and
I actually this is true concern. I'm not I'm not
faking it. He's admitting Elon Musk on multiple channels, multiple
media sources that about his drug use you can't have somebody.
He's clearly his behavior so radic right now, you know
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there's going to be something else that's involved. I mean
he's taking his space thing away, his space X away.
Somebody asked if Trump should be a peach. He said yes.
Trump said he looks stupid standing in my office with
the black eye. He said. Trump said that he that
Mosque has Trump derangement syndrome. I mean, this is we
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look like imbeciles to the to the world right now.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well that that ain't just started today. And according to sources,
Musgus drug of choice is a very expensive drug, which
is keddymy ketmine is very expensive, extremely expensive.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Really it's thousands of dollars. I know somebody that is
a licensed physician that that and so do you that
does this in a clinical setting to help people with
depression substance abuse problems. It can be really successful if
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it's used correctly, but not I believe that Chandler. Oh
my god, I'm blanking matt Nolah blah, that's what I
just went to myself. Oh my god, Perry, Matthew Perry,
he died from kennymine because he was on the clinical dose.
And then it probably made him feel better, and he
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did it and then hupped in a pool in the
heat of the water with the kenymine just knocked him out.
It's some stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I'm still saying. How can you put somebody in a
position of power when they have an impaired mindset? You're
using who you're using a drug, or you're using an
enhancement to perform. You know, that's different if you're a
lab entertainer, you know you but even then you're still
not up to one hundred. But this person is making
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decisions for the country in that kind of position. Right,
absolutely not, but you know what, y'all voted for.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It, and he yeah, and he's I mean he was
doing mushrooms. Was another thing. Like if you're doing them
on your own time, and you're doing all of this
on your world, that's one thing. But his goodbye party
is a retirement party. Now he is. He says, he's
on the spectrum, so it's himself. We're not calling him anything.
(11:22):
He looked so off for several minutes. He was looking
up at the sit like I don't even I'm like,
where are you, hello, Elon, where are you? I'm concerned
for him, but in this behavior today they do. They
look like twelve year olds outslinging mind at each other.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Don't do that to twelve year olds. They look like
four year olds. Don't do that to twelve year olds.
Don't do it. Are way more mature. And I don't
feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for the American
people that he's afforded to be in a position of
power like that. Like you said, he's looking off into space.
He looks crazy, and we're singing this. This is not
like we're hearing about it. We're watching this in real time.
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And so what does that say about us as American people?
Putting somebody like Donald Trump emphasized is because he didn't
put hisself in there.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
People. Seventy seven million people voted for this.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Man, and according to what Elon Musk said, he had
a big hand and had them votes went and he
ain't came out and just said it flat out because
he knows that he comes out and say it that
he has something to do with those machines, he will
be found guilty as well.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
So he may not say that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
But the roundabouts, all you gotta do is read between
the lines, and I am reading my asshof.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But he paid. Let's remember he paid twenty million dollars
to try to sway the Supreme Court in Wisconsin and
he ended up losing. What he has said, there are
two things. So this is a real problem for Trump,
which I got to say I'm not unhappy with because
it's things that I don't believe in. So his BBB,
remember from last week, not a bb I to be
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confused with. Is he's all over it mosk. He thinks
it's awful. He said he never actually got a chance
to read it. It was pushed through so quickly in Congress.
Nobody got a chance. It was a big bill. It
was like one thousand pages. But our best girl, we
should probably send her a silver hair brush. Marjorie Taylor
Green even came out ding ding ding and said that
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she's not going to vote for it because there's something
about AI in it that she don't She didn't get
a chance to read that section. And I'm thinking, if
your only job, Madrie, is to read the bills, that's
really all you have, and you have a whole stinking
staff like this cliff notes, I'm sure version you couldn't
read the cliff notes anyway. She's not voting for it too.
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But he says, it's full of musk, it's full of pork.
It's doing the opposite of what dose you're supposed to do.
It's gonna put us, It's gonna so hopefully, he said,
anybody in the Senate who votes for it, that is GOP,
who votes for it, he will spend his time, effort, money,
even though he said he was out of paying for
anything to do with elections making sure the opposite party
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gets in or somebody else gets in that seat.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
If Taylor Green is coming up for election next year,
because she was talking about running for governor, but she
was not endorsed by Donald Trump, so she is playing
the hands that she wants to get back into that position,
into that office. I don't believe that's going to happen.
I believe her own district is going to turn on
her behind this bill. Secondly, again I agree with you, Bobby,
How the hell you in this position and you don't
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take the time to sit here, and of course you
don't want to read the whole thousand pages, but like
you said, where the cliff notes.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Where are the where are the asterisks? Where are the highlighted?
And you got a staff that will show.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
You all of these particulars, which means that you didn't
take the time because you were so busy with your
lips to the orange ring that you're going to do
whatever this man says. But now when you see that
he didn't back you, he does not have your interests
that now you want to turn. They're all going to
turn and run to try to jump ship, I believe,
because it's going to be a mess. But this is
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very scary, and this bill is detrimental to so many
American people who are on welfare and who are on
a medical who are getting snapped food stamps to feed
their family. Because there's way more of you racists and
poor people, and some of you are racist and poor
that thought he was going to be the second coming
of Christ, and that he's handing you your ass because
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guess what, you're not his rich one or two percent.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
You are just poor.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's not nobody has really you know, so their fiscal
conservatives is the GOP and nobody, strangely enough, which happens.
It seems to happen every time with the Democrats. Nobody's
really tried to handle the deficit since thirty years ago,
when Bill Clinton took it down. So isn't it funny
a Democrat and we're not the fyscal responsibility. There's you know,
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the responsible ones. So they've got to do something. I mean,
this is absolutely crazy. You take food away from kids.
It's the snap money when kids don't have the parents
don't have money for the end of the month or whatever,
and these kids come in and they can get free lunches,
and you know, there's other things, but you want to
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take away from the most marginalized special needs kids like
my sister, or people who are kind of on the
spectrum they're functioning. You know, when we were kids, they
called them slow. You know, they wouldn't they could. You
knew they couldn't hold a big job.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
First of all, hold on, I was not a kid
when you were a kid. Let's let's clear that up.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But they but the people you knew would pump gas
or they might palk the carts at the grocery, but
they were working and they need the healthcare and the
billions of dollars and I'm not even gonna say millions
it will cost us if we start forcing all of
these people that they're going to end up cutting back
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into emergency rooms, mocking up our emergency room care and
costing us a fortune. You know, you can get your
flu shot for ten dollars. I'm going to use low
numbers at your PCP office, but it's one thy ten dollars.
In an emergency room, the care costs more everything because
you've got the machinery you have to pay for. It's
a fortune. So we want to keep people out of
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emergency rooms. It's way cheaper to give them a little
bit of medicaid than send them to an emergency room.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I grew up in the projects in Chicago, Bobby, and
I'm telling you my mother would would do her thing
and sometimes that we were very strained for food. But
I've watched the other kids who would come to school
for the breakfast and look forward to the lunch, and
that might have been.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Their only meal all day.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
In fact, I would watch them go around and get
other people's leftovers and put it in napkins in bags
to take the home so that they would have food.
And we are going to revert back to this. This
was thirty forty years ago. We're going to revert back
to this. It's ridiculous, Bobby, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Hoping that would say the extra fruit and stuff it was.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I'm praying that this bill does not pass, and I'm
looking at RAYM. Paul's against it. So many Republicans are
really starting to find it. They're umph they're going to
get their backbone finally to stand up against we are
going to lose our country allowing this food to run
us into a brick wall. So I'm loving that they
are standing the out exactly right. They haven't stood up
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on all the way on their legs, but they're finding
themselves and they're finally starting to try to stand tall
because it's going to save America. We're gonna lose our
damn country allowing somebody in this power to think that
they are a king, and he damn sure think he
is a king of a country.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
He wants to be, he desperately wants to be. And
you know what I keep looking at like out of
my you know, like my perfle vision is China, which
we're trying to smooth that we're irritating them with the tariffs.
They're going to pull the bill on the money that
we owe, do you know what I mean? Like it's
and then where we're going from there when our when
our deficit is even higher, and we've we've got to
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we've got to pull it in. You know where I
don't disagree with everything that President Trump wants to do.
Tighter writer borders. He wants to get rid of any
abuse fraud, But every single president said.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It, girl, hold on, back up, you back up. He
wants to get rid of what fraud. Guess who the
biggest fraud is. He's the biggest fraud. No, no, you're
not gonna.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
He's It's the way he does it. He comes in.
You know, I liked the way that al Gore who
was put on it. I think it was Rego. He
did it. But he came in with a scalpel. He
met with every single department. It took them almost a
full four years to go through and to be able
to make some actual big cuts. But they needed to
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go further. But what happens is your time is up.
You only have four to eight years. This is a
long It's like that you or I trying to go
in and do brain surgery. You conscious go in with
the with the chains.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
According to yeah, but according to his staff and his administration,
he doesn't even read the briefings every day, so he
wouldn't be informed.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
So he wouldn't be informed.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
He is a person in a political power, in a
position that he is not only a not qualified for,
but be he's only there for monetary gain and power
for him, his family.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
And his constituents.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And we voted as Americans, we voted for this shit.
I didn't vote for him personally, but if we didn't
all stand together as an American country, then we all
involved in this bullshit. That means we all voted for him. Secondly,
with this d I thing, I listened to God, please
let me remember the name one of the podcasts, I
can't remember his name, and they were pointing out this
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was a white guy too, very sharp talking about what
DEI has meant to white women. So what apparently the
smoke screen is that a lot of these very affluential
white men in politics and in power use their wife's name,
their wives name to get these huge loans and be
the face of a company that they're profiting off. But
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they put it in the wives' names to get over
with the DEI. Oh Bobby the way he broke it
down and explained it, because they made d I look
like the black people were the ones who were profiting
from it, but it's not. It is these men who
have Like if you had a very successful political husband
and he used a company in your name, even if
you're maiden name, but they it is such a conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Bobby.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I was like, Wow, that is something deep. So I'm
going to research that. I can give you guys more
about that next week. But it is mind boggling, Bobby.
And when you mentioned something earlier with the gender affirming
care for the people that really needed and really understand
what it does to you, I applaud that they are
not stopping that because I never my personal opinion, I
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still never agree with it for people under a certain age,
But for the ones who are responsible and of a
certain age, I think that it is going to be
a help to those people so they can live the
way that they feel like they need to live, especially
in their mind, because if your mind right, the rest
of your body should be right. But for the ones
that for the youth, that's never been my agreevment. But
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you know, I get backlash and pushback about that, and that's.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Sure that you're a parent, so you understand, and you're
somebody who has lived it. So you know what, we've
discussed this before. What you thought your choices were in
high school, what you thought you were wasn't necessarily what
you found out you were when you were in your twenties,
you know. So, and if you are pumping all those
hormones like consistently, you might not have your three beautiful children,
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you know, so you don't want people to make mistakes.
I almost feel that way about about crime, you know, like,
I think there needs to be reformed, and I don't
think eighteen necessarily should be an adult. I don't think
these especially boys, he too young.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Now I feel like the mine is bad they.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think it's they. I don't know if anybody would
go for twenty five, but I think they say that
your brain is not fully formed in twelve twenty five,
But I was thinking twenty one. You know, when you're
doing alcohol at least, you know, I don't. I just
because some of these kids are still in high school
in eighteen. They're just not thinking it's nothing but one
big trescosterone or estrogen push. So I just don't think
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they're so I feel the same way I feel. I
never even thought about it until you said that and
I said, you're right. We put so much shit with
the food that we eat, so many chemicals and bad things,
and pesticides were already ingesting. The last thing we need
is more of one or the other. I don't know.
I wonder if anyone who has ever done studies for
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breast cancer and stuff over a long period of time,
if you're taking it young.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And the difference of the eighteen year olds now as
opposed to forty years ago is we were taught more
independence because we didn't have so much social media and
cell phones and computers to rely on. Oh my god,
I really had to be You had to learn by doing.
You had to learn from your eldest teacher. But now
you could just google everything and.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Make the mistakes plain. That was wonderful. It's a part
to make the mistake.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, but there's nothing wrong with mistakes, especially if
they're not life altering or detrimental, because you learn and
you like, you know what, I'm not want to do
that again.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
The experience, the experience is the best experiences.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
It absolutely is of Jesus when we were raised. I mean,
if we have young people that are listening here, they're
literally I think flame and I have spoken about this before.
There was a commercial that came on at ten o'clock
at night and would say to parents, lackluster, lazy ass
parents who went to bed floor hours earlier, do you
know where your children are?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, it's ten pm. Do you know where your children are?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Because they did it, we would go out and play.
And if you it went out after after you ate
and you cleaned up from dinner, forget it. They didn't know.
They'd be like I should.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
No, I guess that was not us.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
When the street lights came on, you better be in
my house. That was us when the street lights come on,
and mind you, and the summertime, the street ice don't
come on until later, so we were able to play
out a little bit later.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
But that you know. But the neighborhoods were different. Did
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
The neighbors coveted the other children's children, so they would
see missus.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Jones, I'm gonna call your mom. I'm gonna tell your mom.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Get your miss Jones would reprimand you, and then you
go home and get represented.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You swat on your ass, are on the back of
your head, Mister Ronaldi, he'd get he'd pinch h you
it bled if you saw yourself doing something that he
didn't think was all this night?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
You you white folks, is real abusive.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
True, it's true. When I tell you he pinched it,
he would get you know, there's two nails and he would,
you'd see stars. You would do it again, you know,
you would pick up a rock and throw it if
whatever you were doing, I can't even think it.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
And now consider.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
My mother, and she'd do it, she said, I said,
he pinched me. Well what did you do? When I
tell her? And then I get my ass whooped out.
So the parents also backed each other. Nobody was at
beliast in my neighborhood was abusive with it. But they
worried about the kids, and they hoped that my mom
was watching their child as they read them.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Ok But I am very pleased. I am very pleased
that they.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Are giving gender firm and care still to adults who
really who live their lives like this, and who are
responsible enough and adult enough to handle what comes along
with hormone therapy and all of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
So that's a great thing.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Okay, you know what, I also want to talk about
Bobby so former White House Press Secretary Kareeine John Pierre
has changed her partisanship. She says that she is no
longer Democrat, she's independent. Who else said that on this
Laugh and Learn about Julius?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We actually we actually both. She's coming out with the
book called Independent, and I was feeling a certain way
because it hasn't come out yet, so nobody's been able
to review it do anything that it was, so we
don't really know. And coming off the Jake Tapper book
that I'm disappointed. I just didn't think it needed to
come out. Now. I know the two of them read it,
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but while we had this administration in office. It was funny.
I told you, I was watching The View and they
had Bill Clinton and James Patterson, one of my favorite
authors on They just wrote a book, and of course
The View when after Bill Clinton and for political information,
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not necessarily the book, and so they were asking him
like a gazillion questions, and he said, I'm going to
tell you. It was I'm going to tell you what
my truth is. It was the same truth that I
had before. Anytime that I spoke with President Biden. He
was sharp on it and he absolutely could do the
job becaus the aged Yes, any of us would, he said,
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And to add to it, when you're working, he goes,
I don't care what people, what the news is saying.
When y'all working twenty fourteen to twenty hour days at
seventy eight seven, it's going to take a way bigger
toll on you, he said. Now, do I think he
should have got out when he did? Yes? Because it
was the next was what George Stefanopolos said, I am
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completely comfortable you with you finishing this term. When I'm
nervous is as we're watching you decline what the next
four years would be. So it was sort of what
Karine I guess there's you couldn't put paper between her
and the Bidens. They're still very close. She feels that
in you and I have spoken about this, the GOP
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has an unwavering cult like loyalty. No matter what, they
handle it the way you should. They have their fights
behind closed doors. None of us know about it. But
she feels that the Democrats, especially with all this, they
don't want their names being released, but they're they're dying
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to give the information to Jake Tapper, right. She feels
that the way that Joe Biden was escorted out basically
was the Democrats have viral loyalty. It's whatever you can
kind of whip it up. As you've said a million times,
we can squeal on ourselves. We don't even need anybody
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else to come at us. So I think that that's
what she's discussing. I saw her her quick little clip.
I don't know if you did. You did as well,
and she just said that we need to start working together.
It has to not be so partisan. And she went
through a bunch of stuff. Maybe we'll learn I will
read her book, maybe we'll learn something about fights. So
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happening behind that, Joe was having trouble, you know, getting
people online, and.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I applaud her for publicly standing on how she feels
right now. And I'm telling you I'm internally I'm still
a Democrat. But I was so disappointed with the Democratic
Party for these last four years, especially and not Biden,
but the bottom feeders the party for not ever since
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we lost the Gangster, said Pelosi. The Democrats have just
seemed to have lost their backbone. There is no strength,
there is no courage, their damn show, ain't no unity.
But I don't know if there was nothing in the
party before that and their like we talked about, there's
no there's no need for the Republican Party to bash us.
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We do a great job of doing that on our own.
And then they just watch it follow sloop, take follow suit,
take it, run with it, and then we all look
like foods. And while we are fighting with each other,
they are winning again. Well in our country, we are
fighting with each other. Eli Musk and Donald Trump and
woo China and Russia are watching us. We are weak,
We are very weak as.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
A country right now, absolutely loving it. And what came
out of that, that Jake Tapper book, and it's there's
another gentleman. I just I really apologize whoever you are
there as an author, but I just your name keeps
escaping me. But what came out of that book is
now and it's a distraction. It's I don't, I don't
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how it's relevant. Is Trump is now going to have
an investigation into whether Biden and his mental acuity was
high enough that he should even have been using the
auto pen. But because now they have all these they'll
be able to probably subpoena them. They have all these
anonymous resources, they'll put all they'll subplane a Jake Tapper.
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Whether he'll go to jail to protect his sources, we'll see,
but it's a distract. Who gives a shit. Let's look forward.
It was it wrong? It was We've already discussed it.
Somebody should have told Joe before the hours had taken
a toll. We need you to be strong in the party.
We need you to do exactly what you're going to do, transitional,
and we need you to help us pick who the
next person is, get him involved with the primary, and
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you would have had a better outcome, but to publicly
humiliate him so he came back. I just don't and
having an investigation into him, What about the investigation into
the money that's being made. How about a plane from
Cutter sitting sitting and an air force field somewhere to get.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
That Trump is doing classic Trump.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
He is everything that he wants to go after somebody
else for is a crime that he is not only
committing now or probably have already committed, because then he's
taking the light and the eyes off of him to
shine them on somebody else who's who's not only doing
the exact same thing, or have already done and succactically
got away with it because he is very good at
(32:27):
changing the narrative and distracting you to look over there,
he's doing the exact same thing. But look to the left,
look over there, Look what they're doing. Oh look what
they are doing. When he's doing the exact same thing.
He's brilliant for that. To me, now I'm not thinking
he a brilliant person, but for that strategy, he's brilliant
for that, and it works for him every single time.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
And you don't pay attention. You don't pay attention to
things like, you know, anything his first term, anything that
President Obama was in, he was trying to tear it down.
And he's doing obviously we know the same with President Biden.
And it's funny President Biden didn't do it for him.
For instance, the worst tariffs that he agreed with and
left in place. You know, there were some good policies
that he left in place. But one of the things
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that I'm the most the most disappointed is is that
he's taking so Biden put do you remember it was
during all of the abortion stuff was happening, and Biden
put a protection in place for women where if they
were losing the baby, no matter anywhere in the country,
they could go to the emergency room and they could
get their DNC. They call it an abortion.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's because they're losing the baby anyway, and so that
they don't that we've lost women. You know, we we
have I think a dozen women over the course of
the past four years that have that have died under
you know, all the new laws or all the old
the ones that he was putting in place his first term.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
And so he's he's pulling that out, he's pulling that
protection away. So now these er doctors aren't going to
be able to help these women in our states where
you're you're protected. They do, But what about the Kentucky's
and the Tennessees and the Mississippis and the so But
you're not paying attention to that. He's sliding that in
by auto pan because.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
He was too busy.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
He was too busy telling people that they were having
abortions in the ninth month. Oh my god, geez, man,
this man is so crazy. Uh, Bobby, we're gonna move
on to this because I want to talk about I
want to say hats off and applaud President Robert Zelensky of.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Where is he from Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Good god, yeah, Zelensky, Yeah, because he was he was
so sharp and and doing a trojan horse. We're getting
those bombs and those those drones in Russia to blow
up a lot of those uh uh airplanes and all
the aircraft and so many, so much stuff. Yes, now
(34:48):
the retaliation is gonna be something because because by because uh,
Putin said he was going to retaliate.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
But good Trump on the phone and you he did.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Why didn't Trump say no?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And they're going to be the same man, the same
man who said he could stop the war on day
one or before they were no problem.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, he should have said to him on the phone
call that that he had that he thought was a
good phone call, but it's not going to stop soon.
And he did say to him, he did basically say
I'm standing with if Ukraine, you know, because he has
to remember we have the middle.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Right rights things.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
But he should have said, no, that's not the way
it's going to stop. You know, it's going to stop.
So the stupidity of it all, I can't did you
see Joni Ernst, she is the congressmoman from Iowa, Republican
uh huh. Out there in the freaking cornfields. See she's
(35:47):
at a town hall.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
She was she was in the cemetery.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Oh that was the said. She starts out at a
town hall, which I'm shocked she showed up because a
lot of the GOP bip because they're getting put fact
from from the veterans, from everybody, because this isn't what
we signed up for and this isn't So they're talking
about cutting Medicaid. And one woman said, she's a lower
income woman, but she's she's like and there was a man.
(36:15):
I think they were both saying the same thing. You know,
she's on the line. You know she could make it.
She doesn't work, she's got a sick child. That's how
they get their health care. And she goes, you are
you're killing me, You're gonna you're gonna be You're going
to kill us? And what does she say?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
She said, yeah, people are going to die because and
and and what is she what does she what is
her position? Congressman, congress congresswoman. She says, well, we're all
going to die. If that wasn't a slap in the face.
Then the next day she goes to the cemetery to
make a fucking bootleg ass kiss my boot licked and
(36:52):
ass apology.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
It was Bobby, Bobby. It was so disrespectful to her.
Oh my god. And I'm like, y'all voted for this woman,
So y'all know what to do.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Use the power of your vote and vote her ass
out because that was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Seventeen months, it's not it. It's almost even under people.
The midterms and as long as the last five months
have been, trust me, seventeen months are going to go
by quickly. Will you have to figure out in your talents, guys,
because a vote is a terrible thing to waste, and
we have to so you know who the real people.
(37:31):
I'm angry with the ninety million that stayed home. We
have got to get them off their asses, off the
couch and get them into vote so that we can
want to stop some of the show poop.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I wonder how many of that ninety million this BBB
is going to affect. Y'all know what the BBB is, BVB. Yeah,
the BBB is the big beautiful bill that Donald Trump promises.
Because you said at home and did nothing, but that
does not mean that nothing is going to happen to you.
(38:03):
If you are part of that one percent. That percentage
just on snap or that's on medica. Oh he about
to text your ass.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Get ready somebody. That's what we have to stop being selfish.
We have to start working together. It doesn't have to
be you. It could be your cousin, it could be
your whoever, and they need that money. Most people there
are people who work the system. Flame we all know them.
It's so few and far between. It's not funny because
work the system for what twelve hundred dollars a month
(38:32):
you have to live on to like, it's ridiculous. You
live in poverty. Who'd want to?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I don't understand people that do it, but it's I
get it. But most people aren't. They work to the
best of their ability of what you can do. You know,
my mother would have been a perfect example. So my
mother had my parents divorced, and she had us with
Teresa sick all the time. How could she work a
full time job? Blame She constantly would have been having
(38:57):
to come home. So she would have had to either
be a stay of home or she didn't need a
job that was so minimum wage that they would give
her some flexibility. She would need that health care you know,
that's the only way that we would have survived. So
it's not and that's who's going after people who were
able bodied and they have to fill out a thing
and they have to work twenty hours. But what if
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she didn't get the twenty hours in Like my sister,
she just got out two days ago from the hospital.
She was in the hospital for two and a half weeks.
I mean, that's at a drop of a hat.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I'm not laughing at you, Bobby. I'm laughing at the
able body.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I thought one name and the uins would a vase.
Don't even get that's the inside deal gel for me
and Bobby, I ain't got nothing.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, Bobby, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
That was very funny. Do you know what I'm disappointed with.
I'm saying and I don't like people that sue, but
I'm saying good for them. I don't like how Biden
handled it. I don't think it was Biden necessarily, because
he's the most empathetic person in the entire world. I
think it was his administration or his ad vibe. There's
the poor people from East Palestine. We're finding out that
(40:05):
the administration told them and the the the rail people
that they called the doctors in their area and told
them not to treat them for all of those diseases. Now,
you guys don't remember the East Palestine. That's here and
here in the United States. We're not talking about the
country where they had a rail derailment, a trained derailment,
(40:28):
and they poured all sorts of chemicals in and they
couldn't pick them up, so they burnt them. They opted
to burn them. So the people there are getting cancer,
they're getting all sorts of horrible diseases quickly because it
was only like two two and a half years ago
and they got no help. I don't know why President
Biden did go, but he waited a year. I don't
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know why he did. I like, as I said, I
don't know what who he was being advised by. Chris
Cualma was there the whole time. It kind of bled
to him. But these poor people, the kids that I
mean there there are children with radical hysterectomies. I mean
it's I think probably a child. I don't want to
make it seem more. But they're actually suing now, they're
suing both the trained people as well as the government.
(41:13):
And I say go for it, because if you need again,
we're talking about these are going to be long term
diseases because of that, that toxic plume of smoke, and
you're gotta protect your kids or your spouse and get
them the best care that they can. I say, go
for it, but I thought it was really sad it
didn't have to be handled that way and take an
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ownership the trail and actually cleaned it up.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
This is this is the world we live in right now.
Bobby Clifford, looking here, looking here, looking here. We want
to thank you, guys, and I thank you' all every week.
I'm going to let Bobby thank y'all this week. Bobby,
what what you got to say to our loyal, wonderful,
laugh and learned listeners out there.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I am so appreciative because we couldn't do it with them.
I am hoping that they continue to to listen. I
wish they'd give us if they if they had ideas
or things they want to hear. So Flame and I
are going to shake it up a little. You're going
to see some differences. We're gonna we have to sort
that out first before we announce anything for season five
for us too, So it's a little more exciting for us,
and we're learning because that's we feel that we probably
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get as much as you guys out of it. Please
tell your friends we'd love to get our numbers up
and numbers are safety, but ideas we love it. Laugh
and Learn podcast you know, flop your ideas in there.
Anything you want to see, any questions you have, if
we're not explaining things, or if you think we got
something wrong, we can always come back the next week
and correct ourselves if we vet it and you're correct.
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But we couldn't do it without you.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
You're everything. You're the reason we're here.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
And I'm telling you for you too. Oh thank you. Bobby.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Brainstorm with us in inbox Bobby and Laugh and Learn podcasts,
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Speaker 2 (42:55):
About about flame. Yes, but keep keep.
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Your send your compliments, send your complaints, send your ideas,
send your thoughts. So I'm telling you Bobby gets them
and Bobby relays everything to me. It takes eight minutes
per question, but she sill relates it to me, and
we appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
We want you to know that we would.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Not be able to have a season five like Bobby said,
without you, and this is episode fifty one. Next week
is our final episode before we take a short break
and come back to you guys.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
But thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
America is not going to stop being America. But we
have to stop the people that are trying to kill
our country, and I stopping in them. Is this platform,
you being vocal, you using your power of your vote,
your voice from sending emails. Emails work Hit me when
I tell you, emails work, especially if you got somebody
to write it right, and if you don't know how
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to write it correctly. AI does a wonderful job of
writing your emails for you. Just giving them, give them
the synopsis or the baseline, and it will make the
greatest shit ever for you and you can.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Smash whoever you're trying to smash. But it works.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
But they being quiet, it's going to get us all
completely quiet forever.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Stand up, fight. Thank you to the Republican Party, the
people in.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Standing up finally finding that backbone and saying enough is enough.
We're not going to do this shit anymore because it's
going to cost the country. Yes, you guys are making
money like a fat rep but it's going to cost
our country. Everything, everything, and we don't want to do that,
so we thank you for that. You can follow Bobby
Clifford on all social media platforms Bobby Clifford on Facebook,
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I will be at Comedy and Harlems two shows on
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Win Theater Casino in Vegas with Tiffany Hattis July fifth,
(44:57):
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to twelve one Mic Comedy Club. It's more stuff on there.
I'm still on tour with Tiffany had It, so get
your tickets me be there because the niceness on here
ain't the same bitch that's gonna show up on the stage,
So y'all come get hug because she is ridiculous, but
she gonna give it to you, right.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
We appreciate you guys. We thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Thank you Aaron, Thank you, Dolly Bishop, the president of
Black Effect, Thank you, Charlamagne to God our boss, thank you,
Will Pearson ooh, big name, big name, big name, and
we applaud you.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Thank you to the listeners. Thank you to.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Everybody who take the time to tune in give us
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I listened to Laugh and Learn.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
We will.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Bobby ain't going nowhere. Bobby is my co host, and
we're glad we made it to season five. We couldn't
have did it without you. We appreciate you. Have a
fantastic week.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Oh and what else was I supposed to tell y'all? Oh? Yeah, bye.
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