Bobbi Is SO White

In this episode of Laugh and Learn, Flame Monroe and Bobbi Clifford share personal updates to pressing societal issues. They honor the memory of a beloved actress while reflecting on the ongoing fight against cancer, unpack the implications of the gay marriage bill before the Supreme Court, and stress the importance of life insurance. The discussion also addresses public safety concerns, rising crime rates, and the effects of government policy on communities. With conversations on economic strain, scams targeting seniors, and the shifting political landscape ahead of upcoming elections, the episode closes with cultural insights and a call for listeners to remain informed, engaged, and proactive. Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're slay slay.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Me if you watch your coffee time the baby you
know the name Flame, my bro also known as my
ro Flame.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Come in with last and come in.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
With Jim Love loundes.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Baby, you better catch it when you can drop a
knowledge from fatherhood to politics.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Shouting now comics, just paying homage. What's up? Tests? Yeah
you know she raised shot towns on speaking to the
grown a second year.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
We're gonna laugh, cut of the kicking and at again.
We leave it with just a list of spirits. Think
you want to revisit so your first.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Second listen, young folks, are yours lip?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh folks that we dig?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's good?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Hey, no fish do what you do? Hay no this
do what you do? Can't no kiss you what I do?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
No fish? Hey hey hey, this is comedian same mon Bro,

(01:42):
and welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn. Listen.
It has been a wang dang doodo over week, so
we're gonna dive right into it. But before we go
an go any further, I need to introduce my beautiful
co host, the Lady touts herself.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
This is Bobby Cliff and Hi you tots Touts Hi
everybody and trust me, I am not beautiful. Today we
lost up. It was one hundred degrees. We lost our electricity.
Are not electricity or ac I have sweated out through
everything like I was dying no sleep. I look like
a hobo. I hosed myself off, literally huffed in the shower,
and here I am. My hair looks like it's it's

(02:17):
straw on the top of my head, and I have
a every bite you take, every meal, you make dog
shirt on. So trust me, not good looking.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
That's okay, Bob. Just run through the sprinkleers, you know,
just get naked and run through the sprinkles on this
and that is just it'd be like going through a
cow washer. Just go ahead and get the hole. Man.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
God, I would have slept outside in the in the
outdoor shower if I didn't think like a bobcat or
something to get me. And my dog is such a
pussy that there's no way he's like he'd be like
snack on her all the inside.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Bobby, did you just say what I thought you said?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh my god, I'm behind cranky. What can I say?
But I'm not now the guy came, he fixed it.
We're cooking with gas. After I do this going into
bed woo with the AC down to the lowest I
could possibly get. I have it on like sub freeze.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Poor Eddie, I can't take all that cold weather, good
cold air conditioned. Okay, anyway, let's get into the get
into the get into it. Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
So did you see the deaths that we had? Did
you see D from D from What's Happening? I remember
we run? That was my favorite character. She was a veterinarian.
She died of stomach cancer. Bless her heart.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
She was such a such a car. That was a
sassy little girl. Baby. She was a mess, but she
helped make that show. She battled with that cancer. She
had lost both her breasts, a double misstaked me a
few years ago. Yeah, and uh it just you know,
the reed cutter is barbaric and is everywhere, and you

(03:49):
just never know who it's going to affect. That when
I tell you, cancer ain't prejudiced at all, because cancer
don't care who you are, rich, poor, black, white, any
other nationality. If it's coming to get you, it's damn
show me so and we don't know what's causing it.
I just was looking at a study by because Tiffany
always tells this joke about and warning on the road
about endometriosis, and they were saying that there's certain Maxi

(04:12):
pads that have chemicals in them that cause cancer in women.
The biggest really, my god, I'm telling you about it,
and the biggest allegedly according to the social to the
media I was watching on the news, the biggest company
that they're going after is Always, because Always is the biggest.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Company because they have the wings, They're like the best.
I kind of imagine. I'm trying to think, well, this
is like TMI for this type of conversation. I know
that a lot of women get cancers that use powders.
I never used powders. You know how I thought of
powders because it was supposed to absorb moisture. Moisture. I thought,

(04:53):
all I'm doing is making a paste I want attractive.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Is that? No?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Thank you? So I never used that. But I'm thinking
maybe it's in the in then neutralizing the oldor neutralizing
chemicals that they keep in them.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Maybe that's it. So what we have to do is,
you know, suggest to women to find something that is
just like fragance free and whatever, and you might have
to change it periodicity throughout the day because if that
is the case, that is already an open womb, especially
when the blood is coming so it's going right into
your blood stream. It's going right into your blood. Now,
I don't know how true it is. I was watching

(05:28):
this on the MSNBC and they were talking about it,
and I was like, oh, I never thought about that,
because you don't think about all the chemicals that's in
everything that we use, from the aluminum and the odor
into you know. But that is an open womb with
blood coming out, so it could get highly affected. It's
just it's so many variables of what could cause cancer,
especially with women, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
But you got to weigh it out though. Flame I mean,
do you want to have twenty five cats following you
down the street at any given time? Maybe you do
when you're the cat lady. Maybe don't be sensitive or no.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
There there are alternatives so that you may have to
use washed claus you know there you know, your own
might anyway, you know, stuff like that, as opposed to
using paths. If they're finding out paths are causing cancer,
there are other alternatives that but they need to dive
into that because every lots of women, most of all,

(06:20):
women of having menstr ages use some kind of something,
you know, whether it's a tampon or a pad or
whatever they use. Blessed Danielle Spencer. She was a great actress.
She turned out to be a veninary. She had a
husband at her side and her family, so God bless her. Bobby,
you know, don't want to talk about first. That I
wasn't going to talk about first is I want to

(06:42):
talk about the bill and and and you know, because
y'all love to say I'm not this or I'm not that,
but the game marriage bill is on the Supreme Court
docket right now. And when I tell you that, that
is so scary. And I have no intention of marrying
a man. And that's not that I'm against it. It's

(07:03):
just not for me. But I have so many people
in my life who are happily married to the same
sex partners. And I mean back in my youth, Bobby,
when I was younger. What happened before a President Obama,
the greatest president of all time, signed the bill to
make gay marriage legal. There were couples that have been
together for twenty twenty five years. This is late seventies, eighties,

(07:26):
and they had no paperwork, they had no guardianships. So
when one partner died, the family would come in and
take everything that they built, the property, the businesses, everything,
and they had no say so because they had no
legal paperwork, boundary. A lot of that has been to
protect your partner, your loved one. But now when they

(07:48):
take this away. But I don't want to toot my
own horn and say I told you allso, But I
told you all to pump the breaks. I knew that
it was going to come down to. We had so
many rights and so many opportunities, and y'all kept on buying,
y'all way in and now they want to take back
everything I had. Somebody in my inbox today say claim
they're not gonna be able to overturn gay marriage. I say,

(08:09):
they overturned Roe versus weight after fifty years and never thought,
and they don't think they're not gonna be able to
overturn gay marriage. It will be like you want to
heal sad with that big dumb ass sharply like he
always does, and it'll going to effect. I don't know, Bobby,
I think that is barbaric because I know so many
people that this is going to affect Some of these
people have been married before they were able to legally

(08:32):
get married. They have been together just like just like
heterosexual couples, a lot of these gay couples have been
together forty fifty, sixty years. That's all they know. But
this is this is very scary where we hit it.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
It's super scary because we've talked about this before. It's
only the beginning. Let's say that actually happens. Do you
think that's where it's going to stop. It'll be interracial marriage,
It'll be it'll just go down, It'll oh my god,
and what would advance, Lancel. I guess he'll be single again,
you know, if that's the next thing to be overturned. Well,

(09:05):
we'll have to you know, we'll have to see the
fact that it's even there is what it's insulting, to
be quite honest with you, and to that.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
To that point what you just said, Bobby, they put
it there. They did not They did even because there
were gays for Trump and that voted for Trump against
your awn bitch interest, knowing how he felt about the community,
knowing how he felt. But you counted your money and
you didn't count on you and you didn't bet on yourself,

(09:36):
So now you can't even count your money because he's
going to take it. And girl, listen, it is going
to get real, real scary down the pipe. I'm just
prayers to everybody who's married. Cover your assets, not your ass,
but cover your assets now before that happens, because you
may not be able to save the wedding, but you
could cover your assets to make sure that you get

(09:57):
some kind of legal paperwork that if you if you're married,
it becomes invalid if something happens to you or possibly
to your partner. God forbid that you guys cover each
other's backs, because that's how it's going. That's what it's
going to turn into.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
And we should be doing that anyway, just as adults.
We should all even and I'm talking to you to
the young folk if I don't know how many that
we have out there, but in your twenties, even especially
if you're in your twenties and you have children, should
always have a will what I want, what I don't want,
Who's going to take care of my kids, how I'm
going to provide for them and death, like everybody should have.

(10:33):
It might be the Gerber life insurance policies, but life
insurance policies on everybody. I didn't have a plot to
piss in our window to throw it out, but I
always had a life insurance policy on my son. Not
a lot, but enough that if I had to bury them,
and you know, a little money, that I'd be able
to grieve, that I wouldn't have to go right back
to work. Will be the same. And I put the
real money into my life insurance because it wasn't anybody's

(10:59):
job to raise my on other than me, so I
may sure I had a heavy life insurance policy on me,
and we should all be doing that. It's so heterosexual, gay,
whatever you are, whatever you identify as, do a goddamn
will you put your thoughts out there? They even sound
a little kits full of love of God. On Amazon
that you can get all your papers in order, because

(11:20):
for those of us who have had to pick up
the pieces with a unexpected death of a loved one,
it's tough. You don't know where they stored that social
Security card. You don't know if they have life insurance.
You don't know if they have social Security, Like if
you're a teacher and all you know or federal jobs.
They don't necessarily pay into that, so I don't know
where their pension is. I don't know where they're It's tough.

(11:43):
So and it doesn't take a lot for us, the
person it's it's happening to. It doesn't take a whole
lot of time, you know, it's it only takes a
few hours over a period of time to gather that
stuff up and have it and tell there's got to
be one loved one that you that you actually trust
and say it's you know, in the say or it's
under the mattress or wherever, and let people know where

(12:05):
your stuff actually is.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Okay, so make sure you come here. You should have
life insurance at a certain enge anyway, because like death
is unexpected, but it's damn show guaranteed. That's exactly what
it is. It is unexpected, but it is guaranteed, Bobby,
so you're president. Monday gave a press conference on the
things that he wanted to He wanted to clean up

(12:28):
DC and he wanted to give the police full antony,
which is what he had already promised. It just started
in d C. But but he mentioned many other cities
in America that he's going to release the National Guard
and give the police carte blanche to do whatever they
want to do. So he has released the wolves onto

(12:48):
the homeless people. Let me before you speak, Let me
give Let me give y' all this We Bobby and
I talked about this possibly a year ago on the
same platform. Laugh alone. That's what I was going to
hear me when I tell you that when he won,
the privatized prisoners went up like two hundred percent. People
who invest in privatized prisons. The only way for privatized
prisons or any prison to work is you need prisoners.

(13:12):
They have made it mandated a law to be if
you're homeless, they're gonna put you in jail. If they
put you in jail, you're a prisoner. Build their business,
and in order for you to eat or to survive
in jail, they want you to work for eighty cent
or a dollar a day. It's still another form of
a slave labor to me, if you ask me. But

(13:35):
he's not providing a place for these homeless people because
a lot of these people that are homeless are not
mentally ill. A lot of these people do not choose
to be homeless. They just don't have the wherewithal or
the credit score? Oh my god, no, let me get
you all started on that to acquire what they want.
So that's why they're in those situations. They're not guilty
of a crime or anything. They just are in a situation.

(13:57):
But they are being barbaric to those people. If you
look lie, they are beating those people and macing them.
You could just be walking down the street and if
they will grab you.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
It is.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
It is scary times, very scary times. But we have
talked about this. We told you guys, and we're not
I'm not saying like I told you so, but I
just would hope that you would look past page page
and go to the next page, because sometimes the next
page holds the key. And when when he wonted, Bobby

(14:27):
and I had I remember us distinctly discussing that privatized
prisons went up, the stock went up crazy, and so
then now they're just arrest of him. That's why they
would And I think they had a deal over there
in El Salvador, which is why they were shipping prisoners
over to l Salvador. It keeps the money coming in.
So please be cautious, Please be careful, especially if you

(14:48):
black or brown, or look don't look white. If you
don't look white, you might not be all right. I'm
just saying, Okay, Bobby, come on.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
No, it's crazy. He's got them. He's got the now
National Guard troops who Let's remember, folks, they are not
trained for this. They're not trained for conversations, de escalation.
It's not what they signed up for. They signed up
for wars and protecting us from the outside our borders.
They're not supposed to be down battling the homeless. The

(15:19):
mayor was actually on our boss Charlemagne's breakfast club today
and she was talking and they say that they have
one thousand homeless that are within the DC area. You've
seen it yourself. You've been down in DC. You've just
done a couple of shows over the past few years
down there, and you've noticed the homeless. But there are
only sixty beds. What they're doing is they're promising he's

(15:43):
doing what he always does, which is incorrect. Somebody should
be speaking for him, giving actual statistics. And the first
thing I'm going to back up, folks for one second.
The first thing I want to say is in twenty
twenty three, it's not just under Biden, the statistics came
out violent crime all over the whole country, specifically DC,

(16:04):
but in the whole country was at an all time
low of a fifty year low, and I think a
thirty year low for Washington d C. Of course, Trump's
saying that the statistics are all lies. That's not the lie.
I think what he's coming out with is the lie,
because what won't we do if we're paying attention to
this nonsense. We're not paying attention to the Epstein files,

(16:26):
We're not paying attention to Ukraine, We're not paying attention
to Gaza and my pocketbook and that.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
This, and we're going to cover all those subjects. But
before you go any further, Bibby, I wanted to said,
the DC's made have named her name respectfully, because we
are respectful over here. Her name is Muriel Bowser.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeap, And so she was on she was saying, there's
only there's only sixty beds, so how can you we
fit one thousand people? And a lot of these people
are exactly what you just said, they want a place.
So Trump was saying, We're going to put them in
somewhere where there aren't beats. So you kind of put
them in a shelter. There aren't actual unless he's talking

(17:05):
about and I'm not joking. I really mean this's building
tiny houses, like building a village somewhere for them or
a building.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
It's not I'm not, but I'm just that's.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
What you would have to do.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Stop being white, Bobby. He's not doing anything that's going
to help the poor.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
No he's not. But that's what you would have to do.
But then there is the flip side of that is
is that there are people, bless their hearts, that are
mentally ill and they don't want to take their meds.
They don't know any better. They're in a terrible state.
They're not criminals, and you're going to put these people
in into this system and you think that you're going
to get anything out of them privatized or are a

(17:40):
public prison. You're not going to get anything positive out
of them unless they're on their meds. It doesn't make
it's the whole system. It's silly. It seems like a
big waist down there. They were bragging that they arrested
twenty three people, and the police and everybody that is
down and living in the area, the newscasters and stuff

(18:02):
where we're saying the local one that twenty three is
sort of a normal number. It's quiet down here, But
I'm not saying the crime I used to see on
the streets. No, is it perfect, It's not.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Well, that's no city nowhere. I don't care where you
think you lived. I don't care if the safest city
in the country something still happens. But the crime rate
was down. It's again by being again exactly what you say.
He is the master of distraction. So anything to deflect
us from these Fstein files that they will not release
these names that they have on no telling how long

(18:33):
that they're trying to change, and it's not going to
come out, and he's not on it. And you know,
the guilt is so prevalent with him, because when you
don't want to talk about something and you're guilty of
it and somebody brings it up, you have a mail down.
He has not failed us one time with his maildowns.
But I've said on this show before, all you have
to do is let him talk for four minutes uninterrupted,

(18:54):
and the real monster will always show up no matter
how much script you put in front of him. Is
going on off the reels and we saw it. Bundy,
y'all kept calling Joe sleepy Joe and oh Joe is incapacitated.
If you put Joe and Trump's side by side right now,
I tell you what. Both of them turtles ain't no hair.
They both turtles.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
No But Joe can actually pull. He can historically go
back to a specific times if he sees something happening.
But I'm just going to use Israel for an example.
Joe could go back and say, well, you know this
is like nineteen sixty eight when they and in seventy
two and in eighty five. He knows that he knows
the history. He lived the history. He paid attention. He

(19:37):
and Obama and Bush, they all prepped for hours every
morning he was on it. And so there is a
big difference. You are right with Monday. I will say
I was very concerned he was using all his crazy
talking points. He threw woke in there a few times
about you know, he's talking about releasing the National Guard
and he's going to keep things safe and he's going

(19:58):
to make it better for people the woke and you know,
nobody wanted transgenders in sports, And I'm like, what the
hell do transgender people across the country have to do
with the crime and specifically Washington, d C. He used
like every selling talking point. You know, he reminded me

(20:18):
of actually, as I'm just talking to you, and I
found her to be so ignorant. Beautiful woman, but ignorant.
Sarah Palin, remember pork belly, like she had five words
that she could say or expressions. She never knew anything
about anything, but she keep throwing these stupid expressions out.
And that's what he kind of reminds me. Keep hitting them,
but they don't make any sense to what he's talking about.

(20:38):
And he wants to make this a template for the
democratic cities New York, Chicago.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
First of all, I'm gonna disagree with you on Sarah
Palin being a beautiful woman, beauteous, subjective, and I think
Stevie wonder when it comes to that, because I ain't
see that. Second of all, when you say it that
he was feeding his baby, hear me. Even his base
is shook right now with he's not delivering because the

(21:06):
things that he is doing is going to affect a
lot of the magas. So he is still feeding them
the fire that they need. So that's why he brings
up transgender because that's what helped him win. That's why
he brings up a gaza and the and the You
know that he's feeding his base because he knows that
his base the legs are getting shaky, because they're really

(21:28):
they're even side to see if you look on social media,
look on on the news, they're even a lot of
the Republicans are like, Okay, enough is enough. We have
had enough. We've gone too far. So they looking like
they want to stand up against him and give him
a little pushback. But so he has to feed the
ones that don't read, the ones that don't know, the
ignorant ones, because those are the ones that he needs
to go to the polls and vote. The ones that

(21:49):
have power gonna do what they do, but those are
that's only one vote. He got to feed the crazies
so they'll vote for them again.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, you're exactly right. And what what I say, I
think any of us as Americans, even the good moderate
GOP as well, and the and the Democrats and Defense everybody.
I think what will be more powerful is imagine if
he came out and said, listen, we have an incredible
homeless problem, and we do have a crime problem in
DC in comparison to other cities.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Let's talk about how we can get these people housed.
We can put those on although that's not fair. The
crime and Dy say statistically is down. They put it
all social media and.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
No, no, you're right, but they do have Before.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
He released and before he released the goons, the crime
was down. He used that as a talking point so
that he could release the goon.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
No, no, I agree with you, but they do have crime.
Just like Los Angeles. It might be down, but they
still have crime. In Boston, we still have crimes. Deal
with whatever he thinks the crime is, but more importantly,
what's causing the crime. If it's homelessness and people are
desperate in certain areas and that they still see people
being like mogged or whatever, solve the problem. Peel back
the onion. Figure out what it is. And trust me,

(23:07):
there are a million people out there out there that
know exactly what it is. And let's talk about how
to fix it. How to house these people, how to
get them so that you get them back and working
so they're putting taxes back into the system. You know,
give people a hand, a leg up or a hand
and have them be able to give back or not
detract support, literally get to a point where they can

(23:29):
support theirselves, and they're kind of off the system. I'd
love to hear those ideas. You're never going to hear
it from them, but I would love to hear more
of those ideas. I want to fix things. I'm so
sick of us bitching about the same shit over and over.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
But there is a law. You know that you cannot.
The president can't control a city. But because Washington, d C.
Is the district, the district and it's government is like
government owns, he has all their power. I just don't
like to see, and I'm this is this is gonna
sound real racist, but I'm gonna say it anyway. I

(24:03):
don't like to see the black police officers attacking the
black people. I don't like to see the Latino police
officers attacking the Latino people's. I don't like to see
the white people attacking the white people because I'm like,
oh my god, you're gonna choose your uniform over your nationality.
I am pro black because I am black. That does
not make me anti anything else. Babbie, you a white woman,

(24:25):
I expect you to be pro white. You know, and
I know you, and I know you're not anti anything else,
but you still have to have pride in the color
that you are. They have chosen their blue uniforms over
their own nationality. Boy, I'm telling you, they are beating
these people in the head that makes them in the faith.
We were just walking down the street. It's crazy. I'm like, Okay,

(24:45):
So if something really does jump off with the whole country,
you're gonna choose your blue uniform because the blue uniform
don't when they put a hole in it, it's still
gonna be real blood like everybody else in the Mirica. No,
they do.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
And you know what too, In fairness to them as well,
I know exactly what you're saying. But they also have
to depend and rely on each other when they're in
really sticky situations. So I can see them kind of
banding together because it is it is a brotherhood or
a sisterhood, whatever you want to get. I don't want
to use the wrong word and people get mad at me,
but I understand that too. I'm not going after people

(25:19):
that are innocent. They're not there there for that. The
police are there to keep all citizens safe and to
de escalate and again having the National Guard in these
systems maybe as a backup, but not not to be
fully not to be fully empowered. They just don't have
the skills for it. I don't know. And you just

(25:44):
said a sad thing about not being able to run cities.
You're right, you can't run states, or the states have
to run the cities. But we're talking about it, right,
And what we're not talking about is the cost of groceries.
And I went out to breakfast with my son today
and it was fifty bucks.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
We got eggs, you know, eggs, and I did get bacon,
and I had a pancake and he had. I got
the two too too, and he did the same and
it was and we both got a water and it
was fifty dollars.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
So we're not talking about that. And the tariffs that
have not come in. We have a little bit of
inflation over the past month. Nothing to get scary about
for that. The tariffs have not kicked in yet, but
they're coming because a lot of people front loaded, you know,
goods and stuff, so they well when they were talking
about it in January, February, March, they already bought their stuff.

(26:37):
So we're not going to see that pain. Yet that
pain's going to come probably more around unfortunately the holiday time.
You know, my sister was even saying, geez, do you
think I should go out and buy I know it
sounds crazy to have it in the house so long,
but the cranberry sauce, because it's only cranberry sauce to
me flame if it comes in a jar, and I
want to see the ridges from the shape of the jar.

(26:57):
I don't want to see any cranberry in there. Want
I want, you know, a burgundy color jelly. That's all
I want. But do you think we can we get
Williams Sonoma turkey gravy, and you add the drippings and stuff.
Should we be buying everything now because it could be exorbitant.
We might not be able to afford it by the
time the holidays come. We've never had frozen turkey, but

(27:18):
should we buy a frozen turkey?

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I do believe that the tariffs are going to affect
the American consumer really bad. I was watching something on
Yeah you know, I'm a news buff and over in China,
and there was a lady in the grocery store. She
was an American, and she said that they were going
to affect us. The terrorists were going to affect them.
She was buying Australian beef because now they have stopped

(27:41):
getting beef from America and it was way cheaper, and
because they're not paying the overhead for the tariffs, the
American consumers are. But you guys voted for them one
more time. Y'all voted for this because he told you, oh,
it's not going to affect and they have even Reagan
see it, even his everybody's favorite Republic and Reagan said
that tariffs would do damage to this guys. You know,

(28:04):
was the regular when he was the regular Reagan, because
it was a couple of them when he was the
regular Raagan. It just was a big it was it
was a bad business investment for American citizens, for the consumer.
And Trump did it anyway, told you he was going
to do it, and you still voted for I'm telling you, Bobby,
you're right. I don't want to battle damn Turkey or
this early on either, Bobby, because I don't know it
might get freeze or burn. And I don't want burnt bird.

(28:27):
I don't want to burnt bird me either.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
But I don't want an eighty dollars. I don't want
an eighty dollar piece of meat, do you know what
I mean? Like, that's the other thing. I mean, we
really were We're like should we do it? Like we've
got to start thinking of it. I mean, right now,
there's a truth. There's a ninety day truce for China.
If my son was little, and I'm sure you're if
your kids were little still, and you know you have
to pay Santa and Santa Bias's the bulk of the toys.

(28:54):
Ninety percent of toys they were saying today on CNN
come from China. They're made in China. I think I
might have to front load and be given Sanna a
little you know, his payment up front and store and
stuff that. That means you're not going to necessarily have
as much flexibility. You know how the kids always change
their mind three weeks before I want a different toy.
They're going to get what they get and not get upset.

(29:15):
But I think that's the only way you're going to
afford it this year. If you've got little ones, and
if you buy them twenty presents, maybe stick to five
things that they really need and maybe things you'd be
buying them anyway. Wrap that up, and it's exciting for
them to, you know, unpack socks or whatever, you know,
because they just want to unwrap stuff. At least my
son did. He could have cared less what was actually
but I think.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
That's Christmas advice column, ladies, and gim we're going to
take a quick commercial break. Okay, that was Bobby's quick
advice column for Christmas. Good God, Jesus, here we gow.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
How do you afford it? Can I that fan the flame? Okay?

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, yeah, we're going to get to that. I want
to finish what we were talking about as far as
with Trump, because he not only did he stay because
when he mentioned doing his I guess whatever that was,
because he was just up there rambling if you asked me.
He mentioned so many other inner cities. He mentioned Philly,

(30:14):
he mentioned Detroit, he mentioned Chicago, he mentioned Oakland, which
are a lot of these are predominantly black cities. I
don't know what the outcome of this is going to be,
but I love that our governor here, Governor Gavin Newsom,
the greatest in the country. I'm not playing those games
with Trump. Gavin Newsom said, we're gonna hold the federal

(30:35):
tax money and the red state's going to deflate because
they depend on that one hundred billion dollars that they
get from California, because California is his own entity in
this country. So this is going to be interesting to
see how this plays out.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Bobby Clifford, I agree they Maura Heally, my governor, alluded
to the same. She was saying that, so Flam and
I both live and I think they're calling us coastal
elite state, but we're blue states that pay extra. And
you know who explained who I learned this from, And
I did not quite understand it. I knew we paid

(31:10):
a little bit more, but Andrew Cuoma was explaining it
during the time of COVID, and he was talking about
monies and how money gets distributed and bu bah bah
and he was and he went through and there's like
six or seven states that really do a lot of
heavy lifting for for the other forty three and specifically

(31:30):
for red states that are in the southern area in
the middle. And she was saying, because he was talking
about taking moneies away from us here in Massachusetts, and
she was saying, well, I think we're going to be
fine because the monies that we put in will have
to put back into the programs that we're not going
to get, you know, the funding from. And I think
Massachusetts will end up being fine, but that's going to

(31:52):
hurt a lot of the you know, a lot of
red states, and she wasn't too happy about that. So
and the jerrymandering, so he is also so in Texas,
it's been all over the news over the past week
and a half that that the GOP down there. Abbott
specifically wants to jerrymander. He wants to redistrict all of

(32:18):
the the voting areas down there, and five and specifically
five seats specifically that our Democrat that would be in
in the in the the Congress, he wants to flip them.
So Gavin Newsom has seats that he could jerrymander too.
And it's highly unusual to read district. We do it

(32:40):
based on census, which President Trump, just to get a
bit off topic, but on topic, has said that he
is he wants to revamp the census system. He wants
to take all because he doesn't say migrants or anything
illegal immigrants, which is not the right way to do it.
That's how you get through census, is how you get

(33:02):
moneies distributed to you, for schools, for healthcare, for this
is the Brazilion things. He wants to take care of
that so that it is highly unusual. It's based on census,
the redistricting, and you do it every ten years if
you're going to do it, So to do it in
the mid we're in twenty five, We're not in thirty
when it should happen. It's absolutely based on trying to

(33:26):
benefit the midterms. So Gavin Newsom said that he will
do the same redistricting. He doesn't want to, but he
will do the same thing in California and they'll gain
even more seats. It's not just five for California. There's
another number. It'slipped out of my head. I don't know
if it's eight or nine, which will further influence Congress.

(33:47):
And then there's a bunch of other places that could
do the same, and it's just not the way to
do things. Do both sides do it. Yes, the Republicans
have done it more, but the Democrats certainly have done it.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Done it.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's I think it's like one five, but they certainly
have done it as well. It's just bad form. You
just don't do it and it's like, you know, taking
your ball and going home because you don't think you're
going to win, which is what they're thinking. You know,
they really want to influence Congress. This is what they're
going to do that that's not the best way. The
Democrats left because there was a vote to be had.

(34:22):
They didn't want to have the vote. They've left. They
are now going to return, which they have to. They
can't leave their constituents all this time without representation. But
you know it might not be the first vote, but
certainly by the second vote they're going to vote it in.
So I think what we're going to see is your
just say he's against governor is going to be doing
the same. So and we're going to see how many

(34:44):
how many other governors follow suit.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well, I've told you about his base is shaky to me.
Now that the columns are not as strong as they were.
It's like Samson got in between and he's been weakening
them because they are start because a lot of the
things that he is doing that he will come out
and one day he'll be so barbaric about something and
then a day or two later he retracts it or
he's well We're gonna look at it another way, because

(35:08):
I'm telling you about just let him speak for four minutes.
You get the real person. But the real person don't
have the real information. I think his base is shaky,
and I think they're gonna start setting up to him.
I love the governor of Maine. I love our governor.
Do you say, y'all, government, All you really have to
do is stand up to Trump and then he kind
of diminishes. He kind of bows down if you stand

(35:29):
up to him because he can't face face to face.
He needs an audience. He needs you to put the
yes man in the back. Yeah, you got it. It
was so funny by me watching him speak Monday at
this conference that he did and he had put Pam
Bondy on one side and peek Headsets on the other side.
They must be really good at that acting class because
they tried to keep us straight face. They tried to

(35:50):
stay stored the entire time they did and he said
some ridiculous shit.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Oh my god. They all did, the all four of them,
and they would Pimbonny's nodding.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Janet Mills was in. Was in that they were showing
clips this week and they didn't say what exactly it
was from. It was sort of it was some cabinet
meeting and uh, and Trump was coming down hard to
know and they better vote this way and you know
the way that he wants and all was over the
transgender stuff. And he spoke specifically to Janet Mills, who's
the governor of Maine, and and she said, well, you

(36:25):
better vote for vote against this. And she says, you
already know what my vote is, which she's not voting for.
And he said, well you better be goes, then I'm
gonna hold out your money. And so she says, I'll
see you in court them, mister president, and he goes,
that's fine, I'll see you in court.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
It'll be and and she won and they get the
state get the money.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Well that's is exactly, but he's threatening it again. So
now we have Lisa Murkowski was asked she's the governor
of Alaska, who's the Republican and she was asked this week, uh,
during what Someone's podcast and they asked her would she
ever considered becoming a demo and she said, I am
absolutely considering it. And I almost fell off the chair

(37:05):
because she's a life long she's a lifelong Republican, but
I thought, you know, you know what it's because he's
making it hard, you know, he unfortunately he doesn't. There
are absolutely Majorie Trader Trader. That's what he's calling her,
Majorie Taylor Green. He's calling Majorie Trader Green because he
there are far more moderates or people in the middle,

(37:29):
or people who are willing to cross the isle and
work with somebody for the people one way or the other,
like you know, the old days of we talked about
Tip O'Neil and Teddy Kennedy and they would they would
put their hand across to John McCain and say, you know,
I'm not really crazy over this program, but I will
I'll stand by you if you will stand by you know,

(37:50):
my program will say the U S A I D.
You know, I want to get I want to get
underprivileged people across the country, especially across the world. I
want to get kid's food. And they say, okay, i'll
vote for you, you vote for me, and that's what
they They battle it out with blood almost on the floor,
but you know they'd have back back alley deals at
this at the steak places at night, having you know,

(38:13):
dinner and a drink. They'd work for the people they
actually knew who their boss was. This group that's in there.
So there are people that are willing that are more
moderate than the right wing, but uh, you know, I
I'd like to see some of them standing up a
little bit more for stuff that's important.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Hold on, First of all, I love the name Marjorie
Trader Green because her lips was to his ass. He
didn't each toilet paper, he didn't even need each toilet
paper baby, when he was running, her lips was to
his ass, ooh, we good for you. But you know, Bobby,
here's the thing. They all knew going in. They all knew,
they all knew, but they chose there.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I don't think any of us believed, even you and me,
you would you have believed it was this bad. And
I'm sorry to cut you off. Don't mean to yes,
did you ever? I never thought it would be this
bad because and I'll tell you not that I didn't
think he would do it. He's telling us this is
what I didn't think. I didn't think our checks and
balances wouldn't be holding up strong. For instance, the one

(39:14):
that I'm most disappointed is our court system.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
That is it.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Garcia was sent down to El Salvador and they were
supposed to bring him back, and the Supreme Court said
facilitate his return, and a month later they still had
didn't have him back. Never would I think that would happen,
I thought, going back on the next point, let me
go back.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
You just asked me, did I think it was gonna
get this bad? Absolutely I did, Bobby Cliff, Absolutely I did.
Because I have lived a black life for all my
thirty nine years. Okay to joking at is thirty nine,
but I have lived a black life in this America
all my thirty nine years. So I know. I knew
that racism had gotten very, very prevalent because it was

(39:58):
always here, but it had got rial. But I'm gonna
tell you what I'm let me tell you what has
shocked me. What I did not expect. I knew who
Trump was going to be. What I did not know
was the loyalty that because you know these Republicans, there
are some great respect for Republicans, but this group has
thrown away the baby with the band for water because
you hear, if you hear a government official, that just

(40:21):
sounds like you're supposed to carry yourself in itself in
a certain way. You're a public servant. You're supposed to
care about your fellow Americans or whoever you represent, you know,
but they have none of that. They are goons, Bobby
that only want money and power. They don't give a
damn who's not. It's beyond the have and have not.
It's like we have it and you can't have any,

(40:42):
not even a little bit.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
No that we want to everything is yeh, yeah, no,
I agree. It's it's in the lawsuits and the crazy
you know Trump Trump is he's looking for one billion
from u c l A. There's they're they're suan or
they're looking into President Obama. They're looking it supposedly, they're
looking into Jack Smith, they're looking into Letitia James. We

(41:05):
are spending so much money into all these investigations in
these lawsuits when we were just talking about the homeless
in DC. We could be taking that money and putting
it somewhere like there, or we could have been taking
it and putting it into funds to get those special
biscuits to the kids striving in the Sudan and to
get the the birth control that was already here and

(41:27):
creative we already paid for. There's so many better ways
to be spending our money. It's just.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
I'm disappointed they're allowing him to do this. This is
not trumping Trump ain't stealing this power. He ain't taking
this power. They are his. The fear that this man
is apparently.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
They're seeding it. They're seating it to Oh.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
My god, I'm a god. He got He got petrified.
But with this whole deal with pul because he knows
were meeting with Vladimir Putin the President of Russia on Friday,
and and Alaska used to belong to Alaska used to
belong to a Russia. I believe that he is going

(42:10):
to My belief, this ain't gonna laugh Alarne iyeheard or
black effect. I believe he's going to turn Alaska back
over to Putin. I don't know what kind of dirt
did they have on him, but I believe they got
some dirt on him. It's gonna be interesting because I
don't believe that Putin is going to stop this war
with Ukraine. They're too far in. This is what happened

(42:30):
with the Democrats. Bobby. If I came to your house
to fight you and I get to the door, you
fight me at the door, you don't let me get
all the way to your bedroom, and then decides you
want to get some balls and fight back. The Democrats
should have been fighting back when they hit the damn
when they hit the property, not the door, but the
Democrats to let him get all the way up to
the damn bedroom. Bobby, I'm telling you it's this is
going to be really hard to get this back. And

(42:52):
this six months in. Could you imagine three and a
half more years of this?

Speaker 3 (42:55):
No? I can't. I mean, he's he had his same
stupid expression. He met today with ten ten Zelensky and
ten other leaders that that were in Europe. I know
he had Zelensky flew to Germany and he said it
was very very friendly and he was very optimistic. And
I don't know what that means because last week he

(43:16):
was saying that Zelensky was going to have to give
up some land, and Zelensky is he's in it to
win it. He has not given up land. You know,
his country will go down fighting because they're not going
to give up what They're not going to give up.
There are certain areas that he had they had already
occupied I don't know if that will be it. It'll
be interesting. That would be crazy to have to have
Russia right over our heads. Can you imagine? And poor Canada?

(43:39):
So I hope to God that you are under one
hundred percent wrong, but you know, yeah, it's it's I'll
be interested to see exactly who goes to the Anchorage,
Alaska meeting on Friday and and what is actually accomplished,

(44:00):
because we've got to I mean, some of these wars Israel,
you know, I know that the the the Israeli uh
their little congress area, they they proved net Yahoo to
take over Gaza, and I'm like, oh my god, what
you know with the thought of getting the prisoners back,

(44:21):
they think that twenty is still alive. Thirty are you know?
I have passed? And to occupy it, I don't know.
I don't see them ever leaving to occupy it so
that they can get rid of Hamas.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Why is he having a movie a meeting with Vladimir Putin?
When doing his campaign he promised that he could get
the war stop. They won even before he got an office.
He've been in office six months now. Where is the
stoppa jet? Where is the.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Everybody forgets that. But it is true. It's it's the
everybody forgets that, you know, everybody. Oh well, it's harder
than they Joe Biden was saying that. And remember it's
not just Joe Biden, and he was a master statesman. Uh,
you know, do I think that he there are things
that he should have done. Joe, maybe, but you know,
I'm a backseat driver. I would have liked to have

(45:13):
seen him have heavier artillery and stuff up front. But
he was trying to keep us out and allow Zelensky
to be in. But it's not as easy as you think. Uh,
you know the other stuff that I'm sick of that,
sick of doing.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Okay, let me before you go to the next subject
by me. And Russia is too far ye, Russia is
too far in. They have they have emancipated lots and
lots of Ukraini. They too far into the stop at
this point as far as the war goes, They've done,
they've done. Someone's damaged, so many displaced family, so many

(45:49):
people lives lost, so many displaced children, so many displaced.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Children, they have hundreds of Ukrainians. In fact that President
Zelensky was complaining about it he's been trying to negotiate
and get all those kids back. I think they have
three to five hundred children, and they want their kids
back in regardless of whether they have parents or anything.
They have family and other people that will take them.
They're Ukrainian and they want them raised Ukrainian. Give the

(46:14):
kids back. And it's like the two Wars. We've got
small children and babies in one and then we have
the hostages in the other. Just everybody, give everybody at
least start there. I mean, but it's it's it's absolutely crazy.
I'm like shaken because I'm just I'm so I'm so irritated.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
And we're back to fan the Flame. What's fan the flame?
Bobby Clifford, what do you get? What you got? What
you got? What you get? This is the statement where
you can throw anything at us. Oh don't wait a minute, body,
this is the second where you could throw anything in
the inboxes that Laugh and Learn podcast page, or send
it privately to me at Monroe Flame or to Clifford
Bobby on Instagram. If you have a topic, a subject,

(47:02):
a question, a point of view, whatever you have, We're
gonna address it right here. So, Bobby, you got one.
Bobby's going to start this week off with it, So
come on, Bobby, what you get?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
So what I and I'm so disturbed by it. And
I know that we have seen this, we have seen
this before, but this is really happening, and there's actually
lawsuits and stuff over this one. And this is from me, guys.
I still don't have anybody really sending anything in, So
please send it in. I saw it. It was named
It was on CNN and NPR. They said, cold hearted scammers.
They have hundreds of seniors who have been targeted by

(47:35):
the Dominican Republic, by this scamming group and the Dominican
Republic who are telling these poor people that their grandchildren, nieces, nephews,
whatever a dire needed an emergency. One of the because
there were a bunch of them, fifty came from Boston,
believed or not. Of the four hundred and one of
the things that was told, one of the stories that

(47:58):
the grandparent was saying is is that they told them
that they were down for spring break. Flame is here
for spring break. She had a big car accident. You know,
we'd love to get her to the hospital or do something.
She's got no money, she's got no whay to go,
she spent or whatever. She was robbed, she was mogged.
And these people send the money thinking that they're helping.

(48:18):
They've even tapped the same senior as some of them
multiple times through the same incident, like, okay, five thousand dollars,
she's got a broken leg, but you got that spleen
that's gonna come out, so you're gonna And they've got
up to five million people from four million dollars from
four hundred grandparents in five different states. And I think
it's horrible. And I didn't know if you'd heard about

(48:40):
it or what you think. And I think these people
should be held up by the balls.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Oh and you know what it means about and that
is very, very tragic. And a lot of those people
who run those scams are foreigners. They come from other
countries and they do all of that but your and
they play on the heartstrings because if you're a concerned parent,
you love your grand keys, of course, and they're gonna
give you a sad story. I just wish that some
of these people had a little more savvy to them,

(49:05):
where they had somebody in their lives and they can
run that past them first and they can be like,
it's a scam. But you know, if you're elderly and
you're in the middle of something and you don't have
that many people that you talk to, you're in dire straits.
Oh my god, I don't want to know to happen.
And you send them money, and I hate that we
can send money like that with all these apps, with
the Apple Pay and the cash ap and the Veno

(49:26):
and the zel right, it makes life a little easier,
but it makes life a lot scarier for somebody who
has nobody with authority owe them to say, hey, don't
do that, that's not legal. That's research. That's what I
love about you, Bobby Oh has some research answer you're
gonna find You're gonna get to the bottom of some shit.
But a lot of people don't have that. They don't
have people to get down.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
It bothers me.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Yeah, so I'm telling you, you know, the average I
wish people could block those robo calls because they come in.
They say you can go through three or four different
apps to block in some kind of way, they still
find a way to call you.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
So I'm experiencing it well because these people, this is
a guest I didn't. I didn't see this in the article.
They're probably calling their home phone. These people still have
the home phone, so you know how our cell phones
will say scam alert or scam risk or you know,
spam or whatever, and you can't take that out. And
the reason I really wanted to bring it up is
because I know that we have a lot of people

(50:25):
that are our age. So we'll say thirty five to
fifty and so your parents, like my mom just turned
eighty two two days ago. She, my sister and I
are constantly up upgrading her. She has another scam we see,
and I'm just using it as an example. I just
got it today and I happened to notice it on
my son's phone too. Is the DMV is after you,

(50:47):
you didn't pay your bills, you didn't whatever. I don't
have any CAURG. I don't have anything like that. And
it's the same thing. Everybody in my house got the
exact same thing. Teresa, who doesn't drive, would have the message,
you know so, but my mother would be like, oh
my god, because they're bill payers. So this is a
silent generation too, right. They pay everything, they do what
they're supposed to. You know, they would have seen, not

(51:10):
heard a generation. So they do whatever rule they're told.
My mother was asking, she says, God, do you think
my Cai said, Mom, it's a scam. But if you're right,
if these are people that don't have that, like their
kids moved away, they stayed in whatever town, and their
kid moved three states over and their grandkids or whatever,
I would be with Mike Grandcha. I would do whatever
the hell I could to make sure that my kid,

(51:31):
my grandkid had whatever they needed. I will probably be
flying my old ass over to the Dominican republican a
tube top.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
But that's what they play on. They play on your
sympathy and your love and loyalty for your family. So
a lot of these olderadies don't know, and they quit
to give away their credit card numbers. Once you give
away their credit card numbers, especially once you give that
three digit code CCV in the back, because you can
google the address and get the zip code your toast,
you know, and everybody has pretty much been a victim of.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Some kind of your family.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yeah, so you have to They need somebody. That's why,
that's why you have to rely on you have the elders.
When you have grandkids or family. You have to talk
to your elders. You know, the elders are praised in
the Western culture, but Americas we seem to throw our
elders away. There is not a lesson that you cannot
learn from an elder that you were ever learning in

(52:22):
a book. Not to say it can be the same lesson,
but if the elder tells it to you, it is
so much more interesting and it'll affect you and you
will remember it more than reading it in that book.
We have that respect for our elders body. They just
throw the eldest. We just throw you out. Look, we
just throw you out to the way, sacer.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
But it's the truth. It's life experience. So the things
that we don't like is sometimes are and we have
to get better at stuff like this because there might
be a little unhealthy, they might be a little slow.
We're all going to be there.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Things, you know, they get a tend man. He was
a little stiff because he didn't have his whatever. If
you listen to they've had a whole life of experience
that they can they can help you in stupid stuff
that if you're younger you just might not even think about.
But I feel really kind of passionately with this. You know,
if you got a Grammy, if you got a mom,
that's that's it. Older. Just make sure you're talking to

(53:13):
them about you know, there were scams like this because
they can go in and clean you out. And that's
what they did with the few people they literally want.
One person gave in eighty four. You're not making any
more money, and here's the every nickel they had.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Yeah, here's the scariest part because I know they were
doing it as electricians, like they worked for the city.
They will come from the gas company, so they've been
doing all kinds of stuff like that. This isn't This
is just the prequel to the more power Trump gets
and the more he takes away from people and people
get desperate. These are just breadcrumbs to what big is coming,

(53:47):
because people will get desperate and will come in your
house to steal your food to you know, and they
will do These are just bred crumbs to what this
is possibly going to lead up to. And that's sad
to say, but if you see the writings on the wall,
you see the wall.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
You're right, he doesn't care at all. He doesn't care.
Did you you must have heard him today. He was
in another speed and I got I got to turn
it off sometimes. And they said, you know, when you're
speaking with Vladimir Putin on Friday, are you going to
speak to him about the hacking they do? And he said, Ah,
that's what the Russians do. They have That's exactly what

(54:22):
we're talking about. Is he saying that about the Dominican republics? Oh,
they scam old people, that's what they do. No, you
should bring that up, you know. And I'm sick of
seeing you know, x y Z exploiting our people. I mean,
everything is controlled over there by Putin, or he at
least knows about it. He's probably getting a piece of everything.
I mean, this guy went in a pauper and he's
coming out the richest man in the entire country. That's

(54:42):
not supposed to happen under their watch. But so I'm
agreeing with you, this is breadcrumbs. You're not going to
get a lot of support. People are going to start
getting desperate because these tariffs aren't just going to affect us,
and small tariffs are not necessarily bad, but these these
retaliatory tarfs, tariffs see fifty percent and sixty percent, and

(55:03):
they're gonna they are gonna upset the entire ecosystem, financial
ecosystem of the world. And as these people are getting
less and as we are not helping out countries like
Sudan and their people, they're gonna be desperate and they're
gonna have absolutely no choice but to do this. And
you're not gonna get any NY support because half of
the federal groups that would be looking at the stuff

(55:24):
are gone, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, I'm John talking
about that. That's my fan, the flame. I slammed it
and you blew it up.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
That whole panel looks scary, from Potaio to Bondy to
Knowme to he except to Trump. They all if you
put all their pictures on the wall, put them all
in one shot picture together and put and turn the
light out, I bet you would go in the dark.
I bet you would go in the dark. I bet
you will. You remember the movie Supers Report the guys

(55:57):
when the ladies say this house is clean, that house
is damn show that claim. There's a couple.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
So he is, you know, he's the president has infiltrated.
He is putting himself in uh, the Kennedy Center. So
now he is. He has never gone to one Kennison Honors.
I have seen President Biden has gone to every I
have seen President Obama shaking his shoulders to to Billy

(56:28):
Joel and to and to led Zeppelin that he liked
led Zeppelin a little bit. I was a little I
was a little shocked. Defloppard, I mean he was. He's been.
He and his wife have gone to everything. President Trump,
for whatever reason, never did. I don't think he took
an interest. He is infiltrating the Kennedy Center, which is
not supposed to happen for the president other than to

(56:49):
go to the Kennedy Center Honors. He said he he
directly helped to pick the new honorees, which are George
strait Kiss, Michael Crawford, Gloria Gaynor, and Sylvester Stallone is
share and he will be hosting it. So I'm going
to be very interested to see what that's going to
look like this year. Please Jesus. He doesn't paint everything gold.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
He's obsessed with golden orange chunk. Those are his colors.
Those and you would think those are sunshine colors. He
just he lives in the Sunshine State.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
I'm sorry, Well, what I'm wondering now, I know, I
know Sylvester Stallona is a Trumper. I don't know if
any of the other ones are. But is that what's
going to happen the new honorees from here? You know,
in the next three years, are they going to have
to vote for him? And if you don't vote for him,
you don't get you don't get the honor. It's not
supposed to be that way. It's supposed to be, you know,

(57:38):
politics is supposed to be removed from it. So that'll
be a little disappointing. But I don't know. And the
poor Smithsonian too, I mean, they're just please. They're going
to watch everything they do so they don't they don't
lose everything. They're going to have to make sure that
everything is removed.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
The disrespect has already started. Bobby he removed he put
President Obama's picture and I believe George Bush's picture up
under they say, up under the stairs of something. Just
the disrespect that I already started. And I don't know
if it's going to stop.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Imagine there were three of them, I can't think of
a third. I'd be like if I was going through
the White House on the on the it'd be the
first time in history probably and it won't just be me.
I'm sure a lot of people. I'd be like, can
you bring us to where the pictures are? I don't
care if they're in the stairway. Somebody hold the door.
We all want to see the pictures. And you know,
oh Trump's is over here. No thank you. And only

(58:32):
because he's a poor sport, I don't. I wouldn't usually
feel like that. I just don't. As a person. I
don't care for him. I don't care if him as
my president either, but not because of his politics or
his party. I should say excuse me, not as politics.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
And again, he's only doing what they have allowed him
to do. This is this is it, y'all. Kamala Harris,
Vice President. Harris said he would have unhinged power, and
he's he's put he's proven it, he is proving it
and we're all collateral damage in his country. But I'm
telling you, if I had the money and the wherewithal out,
I would be. You ain't got to tell me to

(59:09):
go back. I will go.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Jimmy, Jimmy Kimmel was saying during a podcast that he
is now. I don't know if he was joking or
but he secured Italian citizenship because he doesn't know what
it's going to look like under him, you know, the president.
What I don't like about this administration is they don't
for the statistics that have been used since the beginning
of time under both parties. He is he is just

(59:34):
wiping them out. You know, that's part of the census
he doesn't like. He doesn't like the statistics that are used.
He is removing all HIV statistics from CNM was reporting
from the CDC. Well, how can you do that? That's
one of the biggest diseases of our time, those statistics.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
RFK JR. Has a hand in that because he's saying
the studies are not doing anything. Ooh now he enough
is enough and a lot of people depend on that,
and a lot of people are going to suffer behind
his untrained, non educated, don't know what the hell they're
talking about. Most of the time when you can understand

(01:00:14):
what he's saying, especially when it comes down to medicine,
you have you've put all these different people who have
no experience in the field. But that's what they do
to police. But remember we talked about their Bobby. They
put these untrained people in positions of power that don't
know what the hell they're doing. But now these people
are controlling what's happening to American citizens like you and me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Gary. I was reading and I don't know where they're
going to end. I was reading which I was really
disappointed to the US Air Force the retirement plan. They
plan on denying benefits to transgender service members who have
honorably served for fifteen to eighteen years, and they're giving
them choices of like lump sum and like that, and

(01:00:56):
I just hope, I hope. I mean, when you go
in and you work X amount of years, you plan
on the pension. I mean that's especially if you're our
age in like fifteen years younger than us, because we
were raised on pension and you know, obviously older than us.
I'd say people from thirty five on. People in their
lives have had pensions, whether it be a grandparent or

(01:01:17):
a parent. But you're in the military, the pension is everything.
And to now because of a new law, you didn't
do anything wrong when you were in, you were told
it was okay, and now all of a sudden you're
gonna you have the possibility of losing your pension. I'm
telling you, it's like dehumanizing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
I just.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
He was so frustrated that we are just going along
with it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
People chose their finances over their reality. For real, they
chose their finances, or they chose their racism and its
unfortunately a lot of it is going to fake the
same people who voted for him. I've been saying so
many people on social media, black and brown and some
whites wrecked and you can't. But there are no do overs.

(01:02:03):
We had an episode called there are no do Overs.
There are no do overs, so you could not do
this over. You had to think long term. But y'all
didn't see the big picture. You saw that the instant hate,
You saw the rage, and he got you fired up.
And he speaks with authority. But when you speak with
authority but you still ain't talking about shit, who loses

(01:02:23):
pay attention.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
The other thing that I'm so nervous this is going
to come out like right before midterms. You know what
they're talking about, this administration or it's been floated, whether
it's serious or not. But News Nation had run a
whole thing on it. The Hill reported it is that
they're talking about reclassifying marijuana so that it's not illegal,
which would be really attractive to us certain group of people, right, voters,

(01:02:49):
you know, young voters, maybe voters of color. But pay
attention to everything else, not just that he's done this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
No, we are.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
President Biden's already giving.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
You a certain ain't let that one slap. These white
folks smoke just as much we used the black folks,
if not more. Honestly, these but I don't know if
that's going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
These young white kids are just but they smoke tons.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
And who's going in not for the smoking, who's going
who's in prison for it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Though? Well who's in prison for a lot of who's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
In prison should not as much anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
I ain't just talking about we. I'm talking about the
folks right now, but these young white all these and
that it's popular in all of you, not just black.
It's popular and white and brown, the Asians, they.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Get you, not the smoking one of the race.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
One of the races. Maybe fight you through, girl, don't
do that now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
It's the key people. It's the people. It's not who's
smoking it. That's not my point it's who's who's getting
grabbed for and put into prison.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
That's the case. Way more to pay attention. Hell, we
can't even get stopped at stop signing over red life
and and not and not fear of making it home
because you didn't like the way I answered your question
or I didn't move fast enough for you. Because I'm
wearing my badge of honor, which is my beautiful black skin.
I ain't gonna never take my black skin off, and
I ain't gonna let you take it off of yep.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
So yeah, but listen, no, but but I want you
to pay attention to things like that. Don't Bobby, go
oh no, no, go ahead, No, I just I just
want people to pay attention. He's giving us like little
easter eggs of and I just don't want him to
drop them in and around the time of voting. If
you're unhappy with everything else, don't let something like this

(01:04:44):
dissuade you. That's my only point. Make sure you're getting
out there voting for everything else that you're losing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Obviously, Easter eggs eggs ain't there how we got in
a situation we in now from goddamn eggs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Listen to me, and listen to me, Yes we did.
I don't know about you. They're not cheaper.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
No, nothing is cheaper, nothing that he promised, not gas,
not food, not rent, not and nothing. Nothing is cheaper.
And the wage, the wages have not went up either.
Living wage is still the pay wage is still very low.
It's not going to meet the economy, especially with shit

(01:05:23):
going up the way it's going up with the tears,
and they're not going to waste the minimum. They're not
going to raise the minimum waste. You know, in New
Orleans they get seven dollars twenty five cents an hour.
Turn your internet off? Did you know that, Bobby? In
New Orleans they get seven to twenty five an hour.
You can't even go get a special at one of them.
Seven to twenty five, you can't. That is that is poor, poor,

(01:05:46):
poor money. And so it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
In nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety, I worked, I drove an
ambulance and we got paid next to nothing. And in
nineteen ninety and I couldn't make my bills. I got
eight dollars an hour, and that's thirty five years ago,
and I couldn't pay my bills. And I worked three
jobs because I couldn't pay my bills on that that
paid like my daycare and my car payment. And then

(01:06:12):
I worked another job and that paid for my diapers
and whatever my son needed. I think we can tie
it up, and so no, I kind of imagine seven
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Yeah, so listen with Bobby. Would Bobby said, pay attention.
Understand that the primary, the midterms are coming. I don't
even know how much power we're gonna have come to
midterms because they are redistricting and they are positioning and
they are putting in places of power so that we
might not even have the luxury or the opportunity to vote.
So I don't know, you guys, we would listen, We

(01:06:46):
and all in this together. I'm like, Bobby, we got
to do something besides talk about it. We got to
be about it because it's it's scary as shit. But
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