September 26, 2025 • 49 mins
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, comedian Flame and co-host Bobbi Clifford tackle timely issues in comedy, politics, and society. They break down censorship in comedy, including Jimmy Kimmel's latest controversies, and explore the state of free speech in entertainment. They analyze late-night TV trends, discuss the political climate under Trump’s administration, and examine the economic challenges facing Americans today. Social issues take center stage as Flame and Bobbi address the safety of marginalized communities and the importance of activism, emphasizing unity and collective action as tools for positive change. Tune in for an insightful, thought-provoking discussion on comedy, culture, and current events.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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If you watch the Coffee Time the baby you know what,
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With them love lombs.
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Speaker 4 (01:12):
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Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yeah?
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You know?
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second here, we gonna last cut him and kick it
in at the end. We leave it with his oliftous spirits.
But you want to revisit so your friend take a listen,
young folks say it's lip.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh folks that we.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Did it good.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Hain't no this do what you do? Cain't no this,
do what you do?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Cain't no this do.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What I do?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
This this.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
We blame.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh this is comedian Flame my Roe And welcome to
this week's episode of Laughing Life Relations Jim We are
so glad that you are here to join us. We
got a lot to cover because guess what, America is
under siege and it's coming from the top. But before
I go any further, let me please introduce my beautiful
co host, the lady Toots herself makes you loy for
Bobby Clifford. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So how's it going? Where are you?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I am in a hotel room, traut. They got me
taed up. It's shrampty and I like you.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh, I bet you, Jill.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
No, I'm in Virginia Beach tonight. It's Thursday, September twenty fifth,
and I am at the Funny Bone in Virginia. Ticket
sales are very low, y'all and band tickets, so we're
looking forward to having a great show tonight. But I
just needed to come on and do my podcast with
my sister, Bobby Clifford. How are you, Bobby?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I'm doing all right.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
It's rainy here and on Boston. I bet the weather
is gorgeous there.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh, it's really nice here. It's maybe eighty five eighty
seven degrees. Yesterday was really Yesterday was really muggy, but
today it's nice and I'm looking forward to a great
sold out show tonight because I think I'm sell it out.
I did press yesterday I the Hampton Roads, so right
here at a local show in Virginia Beach, and I
also did one hundred point five with Tone Hollywood Vibe.
(03:09):
So it was a great You can see the clips
on YouTube, Instagram and all that expolishes. Okay, we get
into the getting to the getting to the let's go,
Bobby Clifford, let's go. You take the lead. I'm gonna
let you be on top today.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I don't know, never mind, I just in case my
mother listens, I conty too naughty. I don't know if
we want to just get right into it and start
start with our reunification of Jimmy Kimmel and what we
think about.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That and all of that.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Let's let's as a comedian, as a working comedians right now.
I thought that the censorship was barbaric because he did
not even say anything that was truly offensive. I love
the fact. Let me tell you what the greatest thing
was that Jimmy Kimmel Citi's ground and that his supporters
and the country stood with Jimmy Kimble. When I tell
(04:03):
you that it slapped the Republicans in the face or
the MAGA in the face for what they tried to
do to discredit him, and it just catapulted his numbers,
his ratings, his show, and he never had to apologize,
and he came on with the highest viewership six point
seven million people when he was usually getting two hundred
and forty thousand a week a night. Fantastic job. And
(04:23):
I'm telling you who I'm the most proud of Bobby Clifford.
I'm the most proud of Americans that understood that we
could fight back and win again. If we are fingers,
we're all over the place, but when we become a fist,
we have a blow that is impactful. And ABC losing
four point five billion dollars in three or four days,
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it showed that we could take our country back if
we stick together. I thought it was great. As a
comedian that does not want to be censored, I say
anything on stage. I am allowed to, and I am
a very Sign of the times comedian because I talk
about what's happening in our world right now. Kudos to
Jimmy Kimmel, Kudos to everyone that's still by him, and
kudos to ABC, but not allowing one person to have
(05:09):
a rant or get in a tirade to make this
one man lose his show. That's my opinion. Come on, Bobby,
what you got.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
So Isaac, I just want to follow off in the
six point seven million. And it's not because Jimmy Kimmel.
Let's back up one step, because Trump keeps saying how
bad his ratings are. It's the late night shows across
the board. What's happening is we have found out, especially
post COVID, people are going to bed earlier. You know,
they're not staying up until eleven thirty after the news anymore.
(05:38):
And that's sort of what's going on. It's not because
any of them, Colbert, Fallon or Kimmel are untalented. It's
just I don't know if they have to stop putting
the shows. Remember when we were kids, they had like
variety shows or those type of shows at nine or
ten or ten o'clock at night before the news came on,
and maybe that they have to kind of they have
to kind of switch it back to them like Jack
Pyr and all those they were much earlier. So but
(06:00):
let's remember the six point seven million that he got
and He thanked President Trump for making his ratings so
high were it was down twenty five percent, because remember,
there are two next tyre in Sinclair are not They're
still not airing the ABC on their channels. And that's
like in Washington, d C, Washington State. There are a
(06:21):
number of areas that it's in. So can you imagine
if the other twenty five percent what his ratings were,
I bet they'd be closer to eight million. I loved
his comeback. He didn't apologize, but he pointed out in
a very eloquate way that he didn't really have to.
He came out immediately and about the Charlie Kirk murder
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and said how wrong it was, and we should never,
under any circumstances when someone's giving an opinion come out
with any type of violence. He made an opinion about
Mega and what he said was actually true. And as
we talked about last week, you could say the same
for the Democrats. They didn't want to own that guy. Yeah, either.
He pointed out that the guy was disturbed and mentally ill.
(07:03):
That's all it was about. This wasn't even about politics.
I mean, think of the guy, the comments he was
making to that roommate, like, no big deal, I'll be
home like he was. He hit his head so far
up his wazoo, he didn't even think he was going
to get caught. You know, with Trump's favorite son being
the one that he actually murdered. I thought that was
that was that was important for him to say. And
(07:25):
he pointed out he thanked his opponents that actually came
out not necessarily supporting him, but supporting free speech.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You know, you had Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Joe Rogan, all all saying free how important free speech was.
I will say I was a little disappointed with Cruz
because instead of just just saying it was wrong, what
was happening was wrong, and you know, we deserve free
speech in this country, he had to say, you know,
because when the Democrats get in office, they'll do the same.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That wasn't the point. The point was. It was just.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
It's just a wrong, you know, So he kind of
stepped on his toe. He was good for a second
and then kind of he kind of stepped in it.
I also liked that Kimmel pointed out Erica Kirk forgave
the shooter and as Christians, for those of us who
believe in Jesus Christ that that's important, and he found
he was very touched.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
He got choked up when he.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Spoke about it. Okay, so two things that you just said,
I want to come I want to back at you with.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
First, the first one was Chad Cruz, why would you
expect anything different? This was the same thing was Trump,
And Trump bashed his wife publicly. He called his wife ugly,
talking about his father was an immigrant and a thief
and a So why would you expect anything different from
this man? He has proven on record that he is
a woofs period. Second of all, Erica Kirk, with all
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of her she forgave somebody. She better hope they forgive her,
because rumor has it that she has been involved with
the Trump campaigns. And she was doing beauty pages way
back in the day, and have a country she was
over there in she was sex trafficking, allegedly sex trafficking children.
So she got a way bigger fish to fry than
forgiven whoever supposedly killed her husband. And from what I hear,
(09:12):
from what I've seen her, she don't look sympathetic towards
her husband. She looks like this is a power move
for me. That is just my opinion on the outside
looking in. Erica Kirk e R I capital K A
capital K. I are capital K. That's three k's. You know.
That stands for Okay, where we're going, Bobby Cliffer, where
we're going.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I hope that's not true.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I hope that someone's just put out bad information on her,
because that would be that would be devastating, especially when
she's got a little girl herself.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
But I was, I mean, I want to follow up
by what.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
What you you actually But women have done way worse
to their daughters to say stature and money and you
know this to be true.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
No, no, it's true.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I just hope sometimes people, you know, when something go
bad goes you just have some people that are ugly
potsters too. And I hope that somebody investigates that and
they come back and that is not the case. She
is taking over her husband's company, who will be better,
probably because I think she started it with him.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, so well.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
But at the other side though, it is still not happy.
There are a pundits that are coming out people who
were from that from his company, saying that they wanted
an apology, and I'm like, but for what. He didn't
say anything bad about about Kirk himself, and he shouldn't.
You know, he was about free speech in the back
and forth, whether we liked his debate and his hateful
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words or not. As I said, either than the if
ans and bots. There's probably nothing that they ever come
out of that man's mouth that I would have agreed with.
But you still have in this country, you have the
right to do it, which is which is what Jimmy said,
He goes, this show is not important. What's important is
that we live in a country that allows shows like
this to happen. And I said, he hit it on
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the head. I thought he did that. I thought that
was phenomenal. I loved row.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Did you think that was hysterical?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yes, I did. I love Robert DeNiro.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Anyway, I do too, But you know, so I didn't know.
Sometimes it can be off cholera not the right time.
I think I thought he did a great job, because
you know, everybody is saying that that the FCC head
is was acting like, you know, a mobster.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So I thought that was hysterical.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And in the defense of Robert de Niro, listen, Robert
Thaniel was so sexy to me when I was young,
I always wanted to be a black woman just so
I could get him something. Because Robert Niro liked him
some black cane. He like him some black girl, magic baby,
that's all he likes too. So and Robert DeNiro has
still hit ground from day one about how he feels
about Trump publicly, and I applaud him for that. Yeah,
(11:40):
there's so many cowards running around, but that is one
who is like, I don't have two damns. You can't
say nothing bad about me because I'm gonna say it
about you first. But I mean, this is where I
want to go right now. So you saw your president.
I did say you're a president talk about autism. That
Tyler and autism was linked together. Now, mind you, Autism
(12:00):
was first found in according to statistics, in nineteen eleven.
Tyler naw was not created until nineteen fifty. Gril, why
do y'all let this man just say anything? Have I said?
Have I not said before on this exact same show
that if you give him more than three or four
minutes on the microphone and let him go, you're gonna
get all the crazy. Not only did we get the
crazy about the Tyler and autism but did you see
(12:23):
him at the at the he spoke at the we'll.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Get there, then, we'll get there.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
We'll get there into a second well, because that could
be part of our that could be part of our
fan the flame with his he thinks this sat ar
factor of conspiracy, God going out there. But you know
what makes me nervous to get back to the autism though,
So there are people who are going to believe everything
he says just because he says it. It's a small population,
but there are people. I am so nervous because, I mean,
(12:52):
he's going on about why we have more of it.
We have more of it because we do more screening.
We changed what the definition of autism is and what
it looks like, and we're we're checking kids younger, right,
I mean, we know that it's not defined by one
single single cause. It's genetic, its environment, it's and I
listened to a ton of the best physicians and pediatricians
(13:17):
and OB's over this week since he made these comments,
and there is no scientific knowledge for any of this.
What they can say is the seed of minifen. That's
only one little component. It's what it's treating.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Say the word again, Bobby, because your president could not
say that words or savors.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Not Yeah, well theF so, I mean, because what it
what it's treating, you know, like if you one of
the biggest things that we absolutely know causes birth defects
are high fevers that remain untreated while pregnant. So and nobody,
I mean, and I had I had a baby back
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with Jesus that were dinosaurs, and we were told, you know,
take it when you need it, don't take it all
the time. And I only I think I took it
once or twice because I had a cold, and it
was actually just just towards delivery.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I delivered with one hundred and four point eight believe
it or not.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
But the people who needed I just I just want
I don't want people not taking what they actually need
in him causing a bigger mess. I'm a kind of
a wreck about it. Something people can be mindful of.
Was not supposed to take anything. Everything is in moderation.
So but he shouldn't be linking it's very careless to
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link these two things together.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Well, now you've got to think about who you're speaking about.
Careless and this person they go together. They married. Careless
and Trump are married they are in a relationship. They're
in between him and Milania. I want to talk about
this barby Cliffic because I almost wanted to feel some
kind of sympathy for James Comy, because they're going after
James call me, they're going to they're going to indict him.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
In a day or two in Bolton Bolton too.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well. Let me tell you why I can't feel no
sympathy for James coming because James Comey lost himself when
Hillary Clinton was so close to becoming the president in
twenty sixteen, and James Comley decided three days before that
he was going to side with the Trump train and
release that email bullshit which was all propaganda. It was
ten days okay, ten days before, and it was it
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did enough damage. And I can't say for sure that
that was the reason that she didn't win, but it
damn showed, didn't you at all?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
It did the ten days. The difference between the three
and the ten. The ten, the more time you had,
the worse it was. People had. They didn't just hear
about it. They had time to look and they had
really good time to pop on it. And there was
no reason. And the investigation happened of course, two weeks
after the election, he came back and said, oh, I
was wrong. There was no link with the emails, and.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So now there's no sympathy for you because you sold
your soul to the devil and now the devil has
kicked you back in your ass. So to James, call me,
you should have picked the sad. There was a winning sad,
but you thought you were on a winning team. But
now you're losing because they are going to indict him.
I do believe that, but I'm watching I've been watching
MSNBC and so many different news publications. Oh, they are
(16:12):
all for blood for him.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Well, Bolton, he will. He's on the revenge tour. And
that's what a lot of the talking heads have been
talking about this week. Part of it is his people
kept saying, oh, don't pay attention while he was running.
He's just saying that. But once he's in, he's going
to do the work of the people. No, this was
the retribution, you know, four years a term and he's
going after He's going after Calling, He's going after Bolton.
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Remember that he had the house investigated and it's supposed
to be able to documents or papers.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
He's he's got a list.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
He's got a list as long as your arm and
if you did him wrong at any time. Unfortunately, that's
what it's looking like. But the flip side is Bondie
because she does know how to do the job. Even
though I might not care for her politics. She's very reluctant.
She does not want to He fired He fired one
US attorney and put somebody else in this week because
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they didn't they didn't listen to what he wanted.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Because he wanted them to go after Letitia James, who's
really on Isaia Bondi. Fam Bondi is facing immense pressure
from Trump, who is demanding his political enemies face criminal
charges as he wants to. Here's my biggest thing about Trump.
He don't remember none of the politics of the country
to help the people, but he has a revenge list
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that he seems to remember. That's called selective outrage.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
It is, and it's Lindsay Halligan is the interim US
attorney that he put in. But the person that he
originally hired was a Trump supporter, was a Republican, was
a MAGA person. And because see a lot of these
people actually do have eessex, which is what we want.
They took an oath, they learned the constitution. You know,
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they're a constitution expert, and they know that that is
not within their purview. They can't do it, and they're
not going to put themselves in Jet party. But she
lost her job, so Lindsay Halligan stepped in. We'll see
what what Lindsay Halligan actually does.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Bobby. You know what, I have donated to the Latitia
James campaign. I remember, yeah, and I'm going to donate
a little bit more because the way they're going to
they're going after women, especially in this country, for jobs
and everything, and mostly women of color, but women period.
Because hell, you was a victim of the DJ and
you lost your job, so y'all help find a job.
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She's into medicine and nursing and Billy and all of that,
so y'all helped Bobby find a job, especially once she
can do at home. I think it's going to be
a pushing a rock up a heel for Latia James
because she's been at Trump and it's going to be
a rough road for this woman. So I am going
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to donate again and again and again if I can,
because I don't want to see innocent woman go to
jail just because she's speaking out against somebody who has
to in a nine months took our country back sixty years.
Speaking of going back sixty years, the economy is shaken
and breaking, and they talking about a government shut down.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Bobby, well, they are.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
They did come out though, so this is the part
CNN had reported this, and I'm like, where did you
get at CNN? It said that the economy actually grew
at a rate of three point eight percent, which was
the second quarter, which was higher than that they had thought.
And I'm like, who went back and rejriged the numbers?
Like who looked?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
You know?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
And I never would say that prior to Trump not
liking the job's numbers, thinking people are touching the job numbers.
I would believe that prior to that. But this is
I'm like, how did you get it? I know you
can go back, but how did you get it wrong?
He's he was sitting down President Trump with the Turkish
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president today. I don't know if you had an opportunity
to see that this morning, and he's telling us we're
making so much money with tariffs, which every publication comes
back and says is not the case. We can't say
how how poorly we're doing. We were doing better than
they anticipated. This is what they said to it three
(20:12):
weeks ago when they were looking at the economy with
the tariffs. But he's he was reporting in front of
the Turkish president that we're doing so well that we're
going to take just a tiny bit of that money
and we're going to give it to the farmers who
will be making money handoff, because it's going to hurt
them for a little bit, but they'll be making money
hand over fist and they'll be so wealthy from this
(20:33):
tariff money. And I'm thinking, I don't think we're breaking
even with the tariff money, Like I don't what is
he talking about?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
The crazy something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You said it correctly. He said we're making stupid money
off the tarry. When he said we he met him
and his billionaire friends, not the country, because we are paying.
We are paying out of our pockets. And then with
the whole seventy five plus containers, shipping containers. A week
or two ago, I had I had a shipment on there,
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I had fans on there, Bobby that didn't come. I
got the email and those are not that's no insurance.
So that's a loss for me. That was almost a
two thousand dollars loss for me. So imagining other companies
who spent way more money than that, because I don't
know if they had theirs insured or not. But man,
because I figured, who thought the damn shipping containers were
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going to fall off the ship? And on that note,
we're going to take a real quick commercial break. But
that you don't guarantee that, Bobby, So that money is
is just a loss and you don't get your product.
So and that was just my little two hundred fans.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Let me ask you just because you're you're a resident
of Long Beach, not that I probably should be saying
that on this, but I think you have before. What
does that do to your to your your sea lines
and stuff? Are they going to get all those containers
out or is that going to be pollution in the.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Probably not even gonna be pollution. Poor fish, the poor fish.
And they won the they won the West sharks biting
everybody because y'all fucking with the ecology and the only
thing lived down is to eat is humans.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Jeez, i'd be and all you can eat buffet for
the love of God, that will be bad. That kind
of makes me sad because I remember when I saw
those falling off. I'm like, oh, they get all those out.
I know that the because I don't know if they're sealed.
I don't know how well those containers are sealed. I'm like,
I don't know if this stuff in them will be okay,
but I certainly hope they're out of the water, because you've.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Got a beautiful Well they're not.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
They're not water yeah, but they're not waterproof and so
and then that's the specific, which is saltwater. Saltwater is yeah,
salt water is damaging. Oh yeah, hum to your body,
but it's damaging to anything else.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Oh into a car, like if you have a car
that even dips into it a little bit, it rusts
all the underside. It's it's you know, that's yeah, that's
absolutely like me. Oh, I'm sorry, Oh I'm sorry to
the seventy five containers and nobody you had them.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And listen, and that is food. That was that was
all kinds of products food. Walmart, Target, so many stores
have taken a lot of mom and pop shops, you know.
So it's just crazy and the tears don't go away.
So when you have to reorder, you still have to
pay the new tear prices. And byby, I'm not going
to lie to you, they seem to be changing monthly,
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the tears, well.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Because I think they are.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
But I'm going to tell you this is a kind
of a stupid story. So you know, I love to
decorate for every holiday, you name it, everything but groundhound
groundhow day. And I was buying a wreath for a friend,
and I was at home Goods and they're usually like,
I was just getting something simple, not ornate, because I'm
(23:42):
not working right now, when I was trying to keep
it cheap, so I figured, you know, twenty twenty five dollars.
It was thirty nine dollars, exactly what I bought last
year for twenty four ninety nine, So that was a
fifteen dollar difference. I don't know what kind of I
don't know where that wreath came from, but the prices
are year over year are up there. Let me tell you,
(24:03):
I don't care what anybody is saying. Even gas is
starting to climb up a little bit. Yeah, many really is,
So I don't Uh, did you see that the guy
who tried to assassinate Trump was found guilty on all accounts,
and then he tried to stab himself after the verdict
(24:26):
with a pen.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I don't know where he thought he was gonna.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Maybe he thought he was gonna get ink, poison and
fall off. That ain't gonna happen in one day. Player,
Let's gonna take some time. You don't want to suffer
like that.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
No, I don't. I mean I can't even imagine. I mean,
he was guilty, he came out and he knew he
did it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I am sick of Trump. Let me be very clear.
I am sick of Trump and his administration. But I
don't want to see anybody cue him to me my opinion. No,
I am not a Trump supporter. But if they assassinate Trump,
even if it's one his own party members or even
somebody who follow him for some strange reason, I just
(25:05):
feel like they're going to weaponize it, flip this country
point of the figure of blame to someone who has
absolutely nothing to do with it, i e. Transgendered or
or right to.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Distract far left is what, because like this morning, everything
he was talking about, you know, any any subject that
he brought up, it was all the faults of the
far left the extremists and it's not going to be
good for everybody. And he said the Republicans are stronger
than the Democrats, so it's not going to be good
for the Democrats. And I'm like, do you Oh, I
(25:41):
wonder what when these people, these dignitaries are sitting beside him,
and so the next thing we'll do fan the flame
and we'll we'll do the UN General Assembly.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I wonder what. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I don't want to leave this yet, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I wonder what would you think?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
What they're human beings if you were sitting next to
him listening to all of this idiotic you know what
going You know the look I was gonna say, by
because you wear your expressions on your face, you would
have gotten fired the first day because as soon you
know Headset and Bondy and know they have to stand
behind him with these stoic faces even though they know
(26:23):
he is spewing bullshit. That is harder to me because
you know, I'm gonna be like what.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
No, you go horrified? Yeah, I'd be harrified, tempted he was.
That's what the guy was going about.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, that's what the president was doing. He just kind
of looked.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
He wasn't smiling, he wasn't agreeing, He just was like,
what the hell now he's got to have an agreement
with them? God knows that the Turkish there could be
something happened in the Middle Middle East that we're looking
for help or something. He's probably like, I am then
hell out of here. This is this guy is his
cheeseus Lit offers cracker. It's the bragger braggerty, you know,
(27:03):
I can't stand that bragging.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah. The man accused of trying to kill Trump's name
is Ryan Ruth. He's fifty nine years old, and he
was trying to kill Donald Trump and a golf at
his golf course in Florida. While he's staying around the
golf last year, they caught him running away or whatever.
It's just all of that is just crazy to me.
And it's still a distraction. And again, show these Epstein files.
(27:27):
But on behalf of the Epstein files, the two hundred
and eighteen votes were met, so they're supposed to have
to release these Epstein files, even though I just don't
think it's going to happen. Because the person in charge
of the FBI, Director Cash for Tail is the biggest
idiot that I've ever seen in my life. And every
time he's on the hot seat, his temperament goes through
the roof. I can imagine that he goes home and
(27:49):
kicks the shit out of his cat or his dog
because he is so frustrated with the way they corner
him and he cannot handle. He doesn't have the temperament,
he does not have the professionalism, he does not have
the capacity to hold that position. And I'm saying this
because I'm comparing him now to Barack Obama. When President
Obama was the president, they had a town hall meeting
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somewhere and the people were hollering out about Palestine or
Israel or something. Barack did not have those people escorted out.
President Obama brought the temperament down. He said, well, wait
a minute, let's talk about it. Don't put him out.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
He was very happy.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Don't kick him out. And he was because this is
how problems are solved. You sit down, you put your
hands flat on the table, and you listen to each
sides gripe until you can come to some kind of
happy medium. Unlike this current administration. Get him out of here.
Not that lights out, not that block off, throw them
in jail. You know, there is a difference between what
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you just said being a statesman and being a person
put in a position of power, of unhinged power, because
he is drunk off the power, not just the money.
The money is the money is the collateral damage, but
the power has him intoxicated.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
No, I agree with that. Yeah, I stop saying that.
I'll poke you. No, I agree with that, even with
the ABC, because he is livid that ABC put Kimmel
back on, and he said, well, you know, the last
time I went up against them, I got sixteen million.
This could be very lucrative for me. So you know,
it's it's the taunting, it's that type of stuff. But
(29:23):
I agree with you. I don't even I can't tell
you I know enough about cash Battel other than like
if he could actually do the job. But I can
tell you after watching those hearings last week or the
week before when he was there, he was there with
I think it was the Senate. He does not have
the temperament for it. He was goading them back. He
(29:44):
wouldn't answer the questions. That's what you're there. You have
to answer the questions. But here's the problem, and we
both have kept kept seeing this. I knew what Trump
was going to do, and I knew what his administration
was going to do. They told us we could be disappointed,
and we were heartbroken when he won, and not because
the GOP, one because Trump won, and he told us
(30:04):
he was going on a retribution tour while he was running.
But what I'm disappointed is that nobody is holding him
accountable like should should they have held him in contempt?
I don't know what is the rule when you don't
answer the senatece questions and you're in a hearing, you're
in a hearing to answer, and when you're when you're
goading them and acting like a fool, I just don't.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
It's it's it's so disappointing.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
So I know, I don't. I think you're on it.
He doesn't have the temperament. He doesn't have it. He
doesn't have it. You have to be able to tap down.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You don't like to call me, but but he had it.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And then you put him in a position of power
over the FBI, and he is a hot heat. He
was like a damn sophomore in high school with the
back and forth and then jumping up and down like
a damn kid. And I'm telling you right now, if
you are this angry and you are controlling the FBI
was over a bunch of police and detectives and people
(31:04):
in that you sprew whatever you have, what energy is transferred, well,
you sprew that out to your employees. First of all,
you would never qualify to be in this position. You
would put in this position because you was a kiss
ass and you're still a kiss ass, which across that
asge and I said that didn't come from laugh and learn,
that came from flame Monbrough. But it's scary, Bobby, for
somebody like that to And we see him sitting publicly
(31:27):
in this seat and he raises his voice long before
the Democrats or anybody else asks him, cause he gets loud,
He gets combative, he gets defensive because he cannot answer
the question. He is ill equipped with the information. He
is not the person that should have this position. And
first of all, he don't know how to handle that.
We could see that what he should do is take
(31:48):
a play out of Caroline Levit's playbook. I ain't crazy
about her, but you can't break that helper. That half
a twenty eight years old and will not get broken.
I don't know who trained there, but they train the
shit out.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Of her, Oh who, her elderly husband and her two babies.
Between the babies screaming all day, the two and the
one year old, and her seventy two year old husband
or whatever he is, God bless them. She's she's totally trained.
Between the dementia and the terrible twos, She's got it.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, y'all is it? It's time for Fan the flames,
and we got quite a few subjects to cover on
the Fan of Flames today. The first one I want
to start off is I want every all the people
of color in this country, black people especially, to please
be very leary. They're coming up with more and more
black people coming up missing. One woman went in the hospital.
(32:41):
They found her months later with her organs missing, a
black woman. We are not as black people. We do
not beat ourselves and then hang ourselves some trees do
we have commit suicide. All nationalities commit suicide. Some people
commit suicide because they feel loss or empty. But we
do not beat ourselves as Black people and then hang
our sales from trees. Y'all can believe whatever hype you
(33:01):
want to believe that, but I'm telling you, as a
black person in this country, that's not what we do.
It needs to be looked into and you need to
keep your head on the swivel because the ice is
now rounding up everybody. The scariest part for me, as
an American and as black American and a person of
trans experience in this country is the dogs they're putting out.
I hate, Bobby that everything that happens in this country
(33:24):
that happens to the gops, that they are flipping and weaponized.
And to say that trans, they affiliate trans with it,
they flip it to put it. Even if they just
throw the name up in there, we ain't had nothing
to do with it, but they flip it, they throw
up in there because what they want to do is
petrified people against the trans people in this country to
(33:46):
make us look like the most dangerous people on the planet.
And it's just crazy to me, Bobby, That's very scary
to me. I heard I saw on social media, not
social media, on the news where he really is trying
to sign an order that I could possibly be able
to arrest trans people on the street like they do
for immigrants. Do you know what that? Do you know
(34:07):
that entails? Bobby, I'm going to the grocery store. I'm
on stage, and y'all come and get me.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I wait till they get one masculine woman that they
think is somehow trance and she beats the shit out
of them. You know somebody who's we call a handsome
woman first, it's a pretty woman, and they get the ride.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'm telling my story. Don't we tell them my story?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I will tell you something that I've asked. We talked this. Yeah,
we've talked about this on this show before.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I would have totally a year ago disagreed with you
and thought you were nuts, or but thought you were
being paranoid. But I have watched and the dog whistle
is the perfect, the perfect word for it. I'm watching
the testing happen, and not just with trans people, also
to people all sorts of subjects. They're trying to see,
almost like a toddler, what they can get away with,
(34:57):
what they can put out there. And when people get outraged,
we just start with free speech, so they see, now,
what's going to happen if you take away our free
speech right? It's not going to go well. But they're
trying to see, how about this, how about the trans
how about LGBT, how about whatever it is, how about
birth control? They're trying to, uh, put it on the
(35:20):
fringes and see if we're outraged and we're willing to
fight for it or we're not. Well, they're on enough
trans people and they're on enough trans supporters. Because if
you're somebody that never had prior to you, I never
had anybody trans in my life, I just wouldn't have
thought about it. I would have stood by it because
what's right is right, and you've got to do the
right thing. To me, that's just how I am. But
not everybody is built the same way. So they're just
(35:42):
trying to see what they can get away with by
just mentioning that mental illness. If people don't come out
and they're not outraged and they're not calling their congress
man or woman or senator whatever, you know, we're going
to be in trouble.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
We just saw you.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
You started the show off by saying, when we act
as a fist and we stand together, our boycotting, our purses,
our votes, as much as you think you're one, doesn't
it makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
So if we boycott and we say, who the hell
are you to say that?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
And make sure that the people that are that are
representing you in your area go back to Congress and
say no, we're going to do away with that because
my people aren't going to vote me back in if
that's what we need to start doing.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
But I agree with you. There are absolute this testing going.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
On and according to MSNBC just yesterday, twelve hundred people
have come up missing from alligated Alcatrass, twelve hundred images.
They're just missing, They're just gone. So all kind of
thoughts went through my head, Bobby when I saw that, Like, so,
did y'all put them out there for the alligators to eat?
(36:50):
You know? Where did these people go? Because they talk
about how barbaria the conditions are in alligated Alcatrass. Y'all
didn't let the people go. You can't gonna walk off
that either. You have to be in some kind of
you know, land cruise ship. So where where are these
twelve hundred people? And again I said this on laugh
and learned before. I think that was a test run
(37:11):
because they want to lock up mentally ill people. They
have deemed trans people mentally ill from the top. Then
you want to say that we're now we're crazy and
we're shooting the right wing. Uh. And then now you
want to sign a bill to say that we can't
carry guns, it's illegal for trans people to have weapons. Well,
if you didn't stop it for the school shootings, you
can't have it both ways. If you're going to do
(37:31):
gun control for one group, community organization, you have to
do it for the entire country. You don't get to
have it both ways. That is what we're going to
really have to stand up to. That is what it's
going to be monstrous, because then you didn't told people
right well, and then you told people I'm gonna kill it,
and now you to put a target on my back.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
No, but I can't to put a target on my.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Back where I can't defend myself.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Shit, yeah, I think you said it, though.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I think what will stop them, what will kind of
shut that down flame is if they're going to have
gun control for one, they are going to have to
look at it. This is a can just like immigration
that people have been kicking down down the street for
the past seventy five years, and nobody wants to take
I don't know a soul that wants to take anybody's
guns away. They just want to make sure there were
(38:21):
red flags put in place and all that jazz. They
want actual, actual reform and we don't need to have
assault weapons when you're out you shooting Bambi, And they
just want to have, you know, reasonable reform.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
But I think that.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Maybe the trans people are going to help us out
in a way, because if they're going to reform it
for you, they're going to have to do it from
the top down, and they're never going to want to
do that. But again, if they're own sell people, what
aren't we talking about. We're not talking about the prices
going up and all that jazz. We're not talking about
the important stuff. Some people are still hot on top
(38:56):
of it. For the Epstein files, I want the Epstein
files out, you know, I'm so sick of hearing that name.
I am so sick of the whole thing. I don't
I don't think the files are going to include what
we actually what they actually hope they're going to include.
I think that when those girls came forward and they
said that they were going to create their own lists
and all this jazz that had more power than what's.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Actually going to be in here. I think people are
going to be very disappointed when they see.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Well, let me tell you Somebobby, at this late stage
of the game, even if the Epstein files come out,
they have all cash for tail hired a thousand workers
to scrub the names off of the list. So that's
a thousand more people, Bobby, that have that's the thousand
more people that have seen the list. So now you
got even more people that know whose names are on
(39:44):
their list. Somebody is going to be bought out untel
and release because somebody copied that, Bobby. You know, somebody
made a copy of it somewhere down the line. Somebody
is going to know. And it's been so much time.
Wait a minute, it's been so much time, Bobby, that
they have so much time to hide some ship. So
if they release the FSA files, now you know they
(40:05):
un scrubbed off all the important names from the Republican side.
It's so it'll be bullshit. I've wanted them released months ago.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Do you think that they're actually ever included everything that
you wanted them to include or I think he would
He would have been selective, just like people's hearings sometimes
I don't think he put in or everything can be
so coded, you know. I just don't know. I just
don't think people are gonna they're looking for some sort
of aha. And I don't think we're gonna when they're released,
you're gonna get that.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
I think the only AHA moment is over here when
you take my I think the only AHA moment is
over here when you take my pennies off and you
say oh aha, oh my, oh.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
My, I don't commercial break. Come on, Bobby, what were
you saying? Baby? So?
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Oh no, oh my is all I said.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
I don't know if you want to go to the
great escalator caper at the UN General Assembly, everybody has done.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, but now the escalator. Let me tell you something, Bobby.
This is how you know that these are children in
charge because mechanical things break down. You were that man
that you had to walk halfway up the escalator? Are you?
And then you go there and you go on a rant,
on a tirade in front of the entire world. But Bobby,
(41:32):
the embarrassment is to the American people because this is
our leader. This is the person that we not me.
I mean when I say we, I mean us as
a country that we have put in office to run
our country. And he talked about everything but the topics
that was important in hand in front of the world, Bobby,
And like you said, the man sitting there looking at him,
(41:53):
they could even keep a straight face. How embarrassing to
think that we are looked at as the greatest country
in the world and we get a slow poke speaking
for us.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
I'll tell you, you know, you know, I'm not a
big Millennia, a Millennia fan, but I gave her she.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Was a baller that it stopped. She looked.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
They both looked. They must have said, we don't know
what's going on. She just marched up. He went on.
He went on at the un and if my wife
wasn't in such good condition, well we're all in good condition.
I mean he he probably, I will say almost eighty
almost dropped dead. That that was one steep escalator. But
she just walked up like she wasn't going to sit
there like an imbecile. She just kept going. I said,
you go, Milania. She didn't slow it down. She she
(42:35):
had them go up. But it was no triple sabotage.
They said, what they think is his film person bumped
there's an emergency bump as an emergency button to stop
and until somebody gets caught, and he he hit it
by mistake filming. He said he didn't like the teleprompter.
He had to mention the teleprompter. The White House staff
(42:56):
was running the teleprompter. Nobody from the un you know.
This is when he was in this is we pay
for this building. Look at and look at all the things.
And he didn't like the audio. I can't speak for that.
Nobody else had I guess had a problem or or
complained about the audio. But he got up there and
he said, you know, we have to stop the experiment
of immigration. All your countries have been destroyed, their garbage.
(43:17):
Who says that He said that that climate change is
the biggest con job ever. He just went on. It's
that I wanted him to sound a little more presidential.
The only thing that I liked that he said was
that he he met with Zelensky after and he said
that he needs help and and he deserves to win
(43:39):
the war, and he should be able to gain back
all of his all of his space. I am sure
I of Vladimir sat there and went, this is what
I've been.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Saying for through off years. You know, of course we did.
But he said some crazy stuff. He had he said
some mass not massing things. In seven months he has
stopped seven wars. Do you know the seven wars he started?
Maybe we don't know, or it's not just I didn't know,
but I'm like, these are the.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
People your co hosts on this show. Flame Roe has
seen it and said today and have said it many
times before. Give him a microphone and four minutes and
just let him go, and I promise you will see
all the clouds in that coffee, because there's some clouds
in that coffee, Bobby Clifford, they are. And the last
(44:25):
We're angry because I'm laughing at it, and I'm laughing
at it because I know we're being laughed at as
a country and that that humiliates me.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
I heard.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
It was on, I think it was on.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
I was it on Good Morning America one of the
morning shows had on had a It was a UK
like a Good Morning America but in the UK on
and one of the concerns they said was, we're hoping
that people aren't laughing at us, and they said Europeans
aren't laughing at at Americans.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
They're concerned for them.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Because they know that he wasn't everybody's He wasn't necessarily
everybody's choice. But he says this crazy stuff that may
have worked beautifully for him in business, but it doesn't.
You have to be a statesman. You have to be
careful and you have to hold your car cards close
to your best and this just isn't the guy who does.
He's angry with everybody that's calling calling for a Palestinian state,
(45:22):
you know, because now France is the newest. You know,
Canada has, UK has Portugal, Australia. There's a bunch of
other countries that are that are calling for it. He
wants to stand with net and Yahoo, but we need
we need a two state solution. I mean, there's really
I mean, he thinks it's helping Hamas. I don't know
how it's going to help himas. I mean, they have
nothing but rubble there. For the love of God, there's
(45:42):
nothing there. But I just he did it to me. Unfortunately,
I was disappointed because he didn't sound presidential. As much
as you wanted to pick on Joe Biden, he never
said crazy mess stuff.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
He might have been a little slower on the take
and because he was thinking about what was coming out
of his mouth, but he yeah, I was a little.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
What we do is you said something earlier in the
show that I think is very important, and what you
said was they need to look like statesmen, they need
to be presidential, they need to look like powerheads. And hopefully,
like you said, some people still hold holding on to
their patriotism, to their Americanism, to the point of we
(46:32):
want to save our America as we know it. So
even with some of his magas turning on him MTG
and all that, so many people are just because you
could have knocked me over for a fellow, when Marjorie
Taylor Green went against Trump, I was like, what. But
I think a lot of people are starting to realize
how much trouble we really are in under this regime.
(46:54):
So hopefully everybody will find their strength and become a
fist as opposed to the five fingers, because you saw
the impact that the fist had. If we could do
that for Jimmy Kimmel, we can do that for America.
We could do this, Bobby, and we could get our
country back. We could get back to basics and not
be in so much hate and division in this country.
(47:15):
But it's not up to me, and it's not up
to you. It is up to us collectively as a country.
So I hope that we can do this. Y'all who's
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(47:58):
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
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second here, we gonna last cut him and kick it
in at the end. We leave it with his oliftous spirits.
But you want to revisit so your friend take a listen,
young folks say it's lip.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh folks that we.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Did it good.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Hain't no this do what you do? Cain't no this,
do what you do?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Cain't no this do.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What I do?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
This this.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
We blame.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh this is comedian Flame my Roe And welcome to
this week's episode of Laughing Life Relations Jim We are
so glad that you are here to join us. We
got a lot to cover because guess what, America is
under siege and it's coming from the top. But before
I go any further, let me please introduce my beautiful
co host, the lady Toots herself makes you loy for
Bobby Clifford. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So how's it going? Where are you?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I am in a hotel room, traut. They got me
taed up. It's shrampty and I like you.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh, I bet you, Jill.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
No, I'm in Virginia Beach tonight. It's Thursday, September twenty fifth,
and I am at the Funny Bone in Virginia. Ticket
sales are very low, y'all and band tickets, so we're
looking forward to having a great show tonight. But I
just needed to come on and do my podcast with
my sister, Bobby Clifford. How are you, Bobby?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I'm doing all right.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
It's rainy here and on Boston. I bet the weather
is gorgeous there.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh, it's really nice here. It's maybe eighty five eighty
seven degrees. Yesterday was really Yesterday was really muggy, but
today it's nice and I'm looking forward to a great
sold out show tonight because I think I'm sell it out.
I did press yesterday I the Hampton Roads, so right
here at a local show in Virginia Beach, and I
also did one hundred point five with Tone Hollywood Vibe.
(03:09):
So it was a great You can see the clips
on YouTube, Instagram and all that expolishes. Okay, we get
into the getting to the getting to the let's go,
Bobby Clifford, let's go. You take the lead. I'm gonna
let you be on top today.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I don't know, never mind, I just in case my
mother listens, I conty too naughty. I don't know if
we want to just get right into it and start
start with our reunification of Jimmy Kimmel and what we
think about.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That and all of that.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Let's let's as a comedian, as a working comedians right now.
I thought that the censorship was barbaric because he did
not even say anything that was truly offensive. I love
the fact. Let me tell you what the greatest thing
was that Jimmy Kimmel Citi's ground and that his supporters
and the country stood with Jimmy Kimble. When I tell
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you that it slapped the Republicans in the face or
the MAGA in the face for what they tried to
do to discredit him, and it just catapulted his numbers,
his ratings, his show, and he never had to apologize,
and he came on with the highest viewership six point
seven million people when he was usually getting two hundred
and forty thousand a week a night. Fantastic job. And
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I'm telling you who I'm the most proud of Bobby Clifford.
I'm the most proud of Americans that understood that we
could fight back and win again. If we are fingers,
we're all over the place, but when we become a fist,
we have a blow that is impactful. And ABC losing
four point five billion dollars in three or four days,
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it showed that we could take our country back if
we stick together. I thought it was great. As a
comedian that does not want to be censored, I say
anything on stage. I am allowed to, and I am
a very Sign of the times comedian because I talk
about what's happening in our world right now. Kudos to
Jimmy Kimmel, Kudos to everyone that's still by him, and
kudos to ABC, but not allowing one person to have
(05:09):
a rant or get in a tirade to make this
one man lose his show. That's my opinion. Come on, Bobby,
what you got.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
So Isaac, I just want to follow off in the
six point seven million. And it's not because Jimmy Kimmel.
Let's back up one step, because Trump keeps saying how
bad his ratings are. It's the late night shows across
the board. What's happening is we have found out, especially
post COVID, people are going to bed earlier. You know,
they're not staying up until eleven thirty after the news anymore.
(05:38):
And that's sort of what's going on. It's not because
any of them, Colbert, Fallon or Kimmel are untalented. It's
just I don't know if they have to stop putting
the shows. Remember when we were kids, they had like
variety shows or those type of shows at nine or
ten or ten o'clock at night before the news came on,
and maybe that they have to kind of they have
to kind of switch it back to them like Jack
Pyr and all those they were much earlier. So but
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let's remember the six point seven million that he got
and He thanked President Trump for making his ratings so
high were it was down twenty five percent, because remember,
there are two next tyre in Sinclair are not They're
still not airing the ABC on their channels. And that's
like in Washington, d C, Washington State. There are a
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number of areas that it's in. So can you imagine
if the other twenty five percent what his ratings were,
I bet they'd be closer to eight million. I loved
his comeback. He didn't apologize, but he pointed out in
a very eloquate way that he didn't really have to.
He came out immediately and about the Charlie Kirk murder
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and said how wrong it was, and we should never,
under any circumstances when someone's giving an opinion come out
with any type of violence. He made an opinion about
Mega and what he said was actually true. And as
we talked about last week, you could say the same
for the Democrats. They didn't want to own that guy. Yeah, either.
He pointed out that the guy was disturbed and mentally ill.
(07:03):
That's all it was about. This wasn't even about politics.
I mean, think of the guy, the comments he was
making to that roommate, like, no big deal, I'll be
home like he was. He hit his head so far
up his wazoo, he didn't even think he was going
to get caught. You know, with Trump's favorite son being
the one that he actually murdered. I thought that was
that was that was important for him to say. And
(07:25):
he pointed out he thanked his opponents that actually came
out not necessarily supporting him, but supporting free speech.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You know, you had Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Joe Rogan, all all saying free how important free speech was.
I will say I was a little disappointed with Cruz
because instead of just just saying it was wrong, what
was happening was wrong, and you know, we deserve free
speech in this country, he had to say, you know,
because when the Democrats get in office, they'll do the same.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That wasn't the point. The point was. It was just.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
It's just a wrong, you know, So he kind of
stepped on his toe. He was good for a second
and then kind of he kind of stepped in it.
I also liked that Kimmel pointed out Erica Kirk forgave
the shooter and as Christians, for those of us who
believe in Jesus Christ that that's important, and he found
he was very touched.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
He got choked up when he.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Spoke about it. Okay, so two things that you just said,
I want to come I want to back at you with.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
First, the first one was Chad Cruz, why would you
expect anything different? This was the same thing was Trump,
And Trump bashed his wife publicly. He called his wife ugly,
talking about his father was an immigrant and a thief
and a So why would you expect anything different from
this man? He has proven on record that he is
a woofs period. Second of all, Erica Kirk, with all
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of her she forgave somebody. She better hope they forgive her,
because rumor has it that she has been involved with
the Trump campaigns. And she was doing beauty pages way
back in the day, and have a country she was
over there in she was sex trafficking, allegedly sex trafficking children.
So she got a way bigger fish to fry than
forgiven whoever supposedly killed her husband. And from what I hear,
(09:12):
from what I've seen her, she don't look sympathetic towards
her husband. She looks like this is a power move
for me. That is just my opinion on the outside
looking in. Erica Kirk e R I capital K A
capital K. I are capital K. That's three k's. You know.
That stands for Okay, where we're going, Bobby Cliffer, where
we're going.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I hope that's not true.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I hope that someone's just put out bad information on her,
because that would be that would be devastating, especially when
she's got a little girl herself.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
But I was, I mean, I want to follow up
by what.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
What you you actually But women have done way worse
to their daughters to say stature and money and you
know this to be true.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
No, no, it's true.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I just hope sometimes people, you know, when something go
bad goes you just have some people that are ugly
potsters too. And I hope that somebody investigates that and
they come back and that is not the case. She
is taking over her husband's company, who will be better,
probably because I think she started it with him.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, so well.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
But at the other side though, it is still not happy.
There are a pundits that are coming out people who
were from that from his company, saying that they wanted
an apology, and I'm like, but for what. He didn't
say anything bad about about Kirk himself, and he shouldn't.
You know, he was about free speech in the back
and forth, whether we liked his debate and his hateful
(10:34):
words or not. As I said, either than the if
ans and bots. There's probably nothing that they ever come
out of that man's mouth that I would have agreed with.
But you still have in this country, you have the
right to do it, which is which is what Jimmy said,
He goes, this show is not important. What's important is
that we live in a country that allows shows like
this to happen. And I said, he hit it on
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the head. I thought he did that. I thought that
was phenomenal. I loved row.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Did you think that was hysterical?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yes, I did. I love Robert DeNiro.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Anyway, I do too, But you know, so I didn't know.
Sometimes it can be off cholera not the right time.
I think I thought he did a great job, because
you know, everybody is saying that that the FCC head
is was acting like, you know, a mobster.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So I thought that was hysterical.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And in the defense of Robert de Niro, listen, Robert
Thaniel was so sexy to me when I was young,
I always wanted to be a black woman just so
I could get him something. Because Robert Niro liked him
some black cane. He like him some black girl, magic baby,
that's all he likes too. So and Robert DeNiro has
still hit ground from day one about how he feels
about Trump publicly, and I applaud him for that. Yeah,
(11:40):
there's so many cowards running around, but that is one
who is like, I don't have two damns. You can't
say nothing bad about me because I'm gonna say it
about you first. But I mean, this is where I
want to go right now. So you saw your president.
I did say you're a president talk about autism. That
Tyler and autism was linked together. Now, mind you, Autism
(12:00):
was first found in according to statistics, in nineteen eleven.
Tyler naw was not created until nineteen fifty. Gril, why
do y'all let this man just say anything? Have I said?
Have I not said before on this exact same show
that if you give him more than three or four
minutes on the microphone and let him go, you're gonna
get all the crazy. Not only did we get the
crazy about the Tyler and autism but did you see
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him at the at the he spoke at the we'll.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Get there, then, we'll get there.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
We'll get there into a second well, because that could
be part of our that could be part of our
fan the flame with his he thinks this sat ar
factor of conspiracy, God going out there. But you know
what makes me nervous to get back to the autism though,
So there are people who are going to believe everything
he says just because he says it. It's a small population,
but there are people. I am so nervous because, I mean,
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he's going on about why we have more of it.
We have more of it because we do more screening.
We changed what the definition of autism is and what
it looks like, and we're we're checking kids younger, right,
I mean, we know that it's not defined by one
single single cause. It's genetic, its environment, it's and I
listened to a ton of the best physicians and pediatricians
(13:17):
and OB's over this week since he made these comments,
and there is no scientific knowledge for any of this.
What they can say is the seed of minifen. That's
only one little component. It's what it's treating.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Say the word again, Bobby, because your president could not
say that words or savors.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Not Yeah, well theF so, I mean, because what it
what it's treating, you know, like if you one of
the biggest things that we absolutely know causes birth defects
are high fevers that remain untreated while pregnant. So and nobody,
I mean, and I had I had a baby back
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with Jesus that were dinosaurs, and we were told, you know,
take it when you need it, don't take it all
the time. And I only I think I took it
once or twice because I had a cold, and it
was actually just just towards delivery.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I delivered with one hundred and four point eight believe
it or not.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
But the people who needed I just I just want
I don't want people not taking what they actually need
in him causing a bigger mess. I'm a kind of
a wreck about it. Something people can be mindful of.
Was not supposed to take anything. Everything is in moderation.
So but he shouldn't be linking it's very careless to
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link these two things together.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Well, now you've got to think about who you're speaking about.
Careless and this person they go together. They married. Careless
and Trump are married they are in a relationship. They're
in between him and Milania. I want to talk about
this barby Cliffic because I almost wanted to feel some
kind of sympathy for James Comy, because they're going after
James call me, they're going to they're going to indict him.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
In a day or two in Bolton Bolton too.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well. Let me tell you why I can't feel no
sympathy for James coming because James Comey lost himself when
Hillary Clinton was so close to becoming the president in
twenty sixteen, and James Comley decided three days before that
he was going to side with the Trump train and
release that email bullshit which was all propaganda. It was
ten days okay, ten days before, and it was it
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did enough damage. And I can't say for sure that
that was the reason that she didn't win, but it
damn showed, didn't you at all?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
It did the ten days. The difference between the three
and the ten. The ten, the more time you had,
the worse it was. People had. They didn't just hear
about it. They had time to look and they had
really good time to pop on it. And there was
no reason. And the investigation happened of course, two weeks
after the election, he came back and said, oh, I
was wrong. There was no link with the emails, and.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So now there's no sympathy for you because you sold
your soul to the devil and now the devil has
kicked you back in your ass. So to James, call me,
you should have picked the sad. There was a winning sad,
but you thought you were on a winning team. But
now you're losing because they are going to indict him.
I do believe that, but I'm watching I've been watching
MSNBC and so many different news publications. Oh, they are
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all for blood for him.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Well, Bolton, he will. He's on the revenge tour. And
that's what a lot of the talking heads have been
talking about this week. Part of it is his people
kept saying, oh, don't pay attention while he was running.
He's just saying that. But once he's in, he's going
to do the work of the people. No, this was
the retribution, you know, four years a term and he's
going after He's going after Calling, He's going after Bolton.
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Remember that he had the house investigated and it's supposed
to be able to documents or papers.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
He's he's got a list.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
He's got a list as long as your arm and
if you did him wrong at any time. Unfortunately, that's
what it's looking like. But the flip side is Bondie
because she does know how to do the job. Even
though I might not care for her politics. She's very reluctant.
She does not want to He fired He fired one
US attorney and put somebody else in this week because
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they didn't they didn't listen to what he wanted.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Because he wanted them to go after Letitia James, who's
really on Isaia Bondi. Fam Bondi is facing immense pressure
from Trump, who is demanding his political enemies face criminal
charges as he wants to. Here's my biggest thing about Trump.
He don't remember none of the politics of the country
to help the people, but he has a revenge list
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that he seems to remember. That's called selective outrage.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
It is, and it's Lindsay Halligan is the interim US
attorney that he put in. But the person that he
originally hired was a Trump supporter, was a Republican, was
a MAGA person. And because see a lot of these
people actually do have eessex, which is what we want.
They took an oath, they learned the constitution. You know,
(17:54):
they're a constitution expert, and they know that that is
not within their purview. They can't do it, and they're
not going to put themselves in Jet party. But she
lost her job, so Lindsay Halligan stepped in. We'll see
what what Lindsay Halligan actually does.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Bobby. You know what, I have donated to the Latitia
James campaign. I remember, yeah, and I'm going to donate
a little bit more because the way they're going to
they're going after women, especially in this country, for jobs
and everything, and mostly women of color, but women period.
Because hell, you was a victim of the DJ and
you lost your job, so y'all help find a job.
(18:31):
She's into medicine and nursing and Billy and all of that,
so y'all helped Bobby find a job, especially once she
can do at home. I think it's going to be
a pushing a rock up a heel for Latia James
because she's been at Trump and it's going to be
a rough road for this woman. So I am going
(18:52):
to donate again and again and again if I can,
because I don't want to see innocent woman go to
jail just because she's speaking out against somebody who has
to in a nine months took our country back sixty years.
Speaking of going back sixty years, the economy is shaken
and breaking, and they talking about a government shut down.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Bobby, well, they are.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
They did come out though, so this is the part
CNN had reported this, and I'm like, where did you
get at CNN? It said that the economy actually grew
at a rate of three point eight percent, which was
the second quarter, which was higher than that they had thought.
And I'm like, who went back and rejriged the numbers?
Like who looked?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
You know?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
And I never would say that prior to Trump not
liking the job's numbers, thinking people are touching the job numbers.
I would believe that prior to that. But this is
I'm like, how did you get it? I know you
can go back, but how did you get it wrong?
He's he was sitting down President Trump with the Turkish
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president today. I don't know if you had an opportunity
to see that this morning, and he's telling us we're
making so much money with tariffs, which every publication comes
back and says is not the case. We can't say
how how poorly we're doing. We were doing better than
they anticipated. This is what they said to it three
(20:12):
weeks ago when they were looking at the economy with
the tariffs. But he's he was reporting in front of
the Turkish president that we're doing so well that we're
going to take just a tiny bit of that money
and we're going to give it to the farmers who
will be making money handoff, because it's going to hurt
them for a little bit, but they'll be making money
hand over fist and they'll be so wealthy from this
(20:33):
tariff money. And I'm thinking, I don't think we're breaking
even with the tariff money, Like I don't what is
he talking about?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
The crazy something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You said it correctly. He said we're making stupid money
off the tarry. When he said we he met him
and his billionaire friends, not the country, because we are paying.
We are paying out of our pockets. And then with
the whole seventy five plus containers, shipping containers. A week
or two ago, I had I had a shipment on there,
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I had fans on there, Bobby that didn't come. I
got the email and those are not that's no insurance.
So that's a loss for me. That was almost a
two thousand dollars loss for me. So imagining other companies
who spent way more money than that, because I don't
know if they had theirs insured or not. But man,
because I figured, who thought the damn shipping containers were
(21:24):
going to fall off the ship? And on that note,
we're going to take a real quick commercial break. But
that you don't guarantee that, Bobby, So that money is
is just a loss and you don't get your product.
So and that was just my little two hundred fans.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Let me ask you just because you're you're a resident
of Long Beach, not that I probably should be saying
that on this, but I think you have before. What
does that do to your to your your sea lines
and stuff? Are they going to get all those containers
out or is that going to be pollution in the.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Probably not even gonna be pollution. Poor fish, the poor fish.
And they won the they won the West sharks biting
everybody because y'all fucking with the ecology and the only
thing lived down is to eat is humans.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Jeez, i'd be and all you can eat buffet for
the love of God, that will be bad. That kind
of makes me sad because I remember when I saw
those falling off. I'm like, oh, they get all those out.
I know that the because I don't know if they're sealed.
I don't know how well those containers are sealed. I'm like,
I don't know if this stuff in them will be okay,
but I certainly hope they're out of the water, because you've.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Got a beautiful Well they're not.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
They're not water yeah, but they're not waterproof and so
and then that's the specific, which is saltwater. Saltwater is yeah,
salt water is damaging. Oh yeah, hum to your body,
but it's damaging to anything else.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Oh into a car, like if you have a car
that even dips into it a little bit, it rusts
all the underside. It's it's you know, that's yeah, that's
absolutely like me. Oh, I'm sorry, Oh I'm sorry to
the seventy five containers and nobody you had them.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And listen, and that is food. That was that was
all kinds of products food. Walmart, Target, so many stores
have taken a lot of mom and pop shops, you know.
So it's just crazy and the tears don't go away.
So when you have to reorder, you still have to
pay the new tear prices. And byby, I'm not going
to lie to you, they seem to be changing monthly,
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the tears, well.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Because I think they are.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
But I'm going to tell you this is a kind
of a stupid story. So you know, I love to
decorate for every holiday, you name it, everything but groundhound
groundhow day. And I was buying a wreath for a friend,
and I was at home Goods and they're usually like,
I was just getting something simple, not ornate, because I'm
(23:42):
not working right now, when I was trying to keep
it cheap, so I figured, you know, twenty twenty five dollars.
It was thirty nine dollars, exactly what I bought last
year for twenty four ninety nine, So that was a
fifteen dollar difference. I don't know what kind of I
don't know where that wreath came from, but the prices
are year over year are up there. Let me tell you,
(24:03):
I don't care what anybody is saying. Even gas is
starting to climb up a little bit. Yeah, many really is,
So I don't Uh, did you see that the guy
who tried to assassinate Trump was found guilty on all accounts,
and then he tried to stab himself after the verdict
(24:26):
with a pen.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I don't know where he thought he was gonna.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Maybe he thought he was gonna get ink, poison and
fall off. That ain't gonna happen in one day. Player,
Let's gonna take some time. You don't want to suffer
like that.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
No, I don't. I mean I can't even imagine. I mean,
he was guilty, he came out and he knew he
did it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I am sick of Trump. Let me be very clear.
I am sick of Trump and his administration. But I
don't want to see anybody cue him to me my opinion. No,
I am not a Trump supporter. But if they assassinate Trump,
even if it's one his own party members or even
somebody who follow him for some strange reason, I just
(25:05):
feel like they're going to weaponize it, flip this country
point of the figure of blame to someone who has
absolutely nothing to do with it, i e. Transgendered or
or right to.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Distract far left is what, because like this morning, everything
he was talking about, you know, any any subject that
he brought up, it was all the faults of the
far left the extremists and it's not going to be
good for everybody. And he said the Republicans are stronger
than the Democrats, so it's not going to be good
for the Democrats. And I'm like, do you Oh, I
(25:41):
wonder what when these people, these dignitaries are sitting beside him,
and so the next thing we'll do fan the flame
and we'll we'll do the UN General Assembly.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I wonder what. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I don't want to leave this yet, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I wonder what would you think?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
What they're human beings if you were sitting next to
him listening to all of this idiotic you know what
going You know the look I was gonna say, by
because you wear your expressions on your face, you would
have gotten fired the first day because as soon you
know Headset and Bondy and know they have to stand
behind him with these stoic faces even though they know
(26:23):
he is spewing bullshit. That is harder to me because
you know, I'm gonna be like what.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
No, you go horrified? Yeah, I'd be harrified, tempted he was.
That's what the guy was going about.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, that's what the president was doing. He just kind
of looked.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
He wasn't smiling, he wasn't agreeing, He just was like,
what the hell now he's got to have an agreement
with them? God knows that the Turkish there could be
something happened in the Middle Middle East that we're looking
for help or something. He's probably like, I am then
hell out of here. This is this guy is his
cheeseus Lit offers cracker. It's the bragger braggerty, you know,
(27:03):
I can't stand that bragging.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah. The man accused of trying to kill Trump's name
is Ryan Ruth. He's fifty nine years old, and he
was trying to kill Donald Trump and a golf at
his golf course in Florida. While he's staying around the
golf last year, they caught him running away or whatever.
It's just all of that is just crazy to me.
And it's still a distraction. And again, show these Epstein files.
(27:27):
But on behalf of the Epstein files, the two hundred
and eighteen votes were met, so they're supposed to have
to release these Epstein files, even though I just don't
think it's going to happen. Because the person in charge
of the FBI, Director Cash for Tail is the biggest
idiot that I've ever seen in my life. And every
time he's on the hot seat, his temperament goes through
the roof. I can imagine that he goes home and
(27:49):
kicks the shit out of his cat or his dog
because he is so frustrated with the way they corner
him and he cannot handle. He doesn't have the temperament,
he does not have the professionalism, he does not have
the capacity to hold that position. And I'm saying this
because I'm comparing him now to Barack Obama. When President
Obama was the president, they had a town hall meeting
(28:09):
somewhere and the people were hollering out about Palestine or
Israel or something. Barack did not have those people escorted out.
President Obama brought the temperament down. He said, well, wait
a minute, let's talk about it. Don't put him out.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
He was very happy.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Don't kick him out. And he was because this is
how problems are solved. You sit down, you put your
hands flat on the table, and you listen to each
sides gripe until you can come to some kind of
happy medium. Unlike this current administration. Get him out of here.
Not that lights out, not that block off, throw them
in jail. You know, there is a difference between what
(28:43):
you just said being a statesman and being a person
put in a position of power, of unhinged power, because
he is drunk off the power, not just the money.
The money is the money is the collateral damage, but
the power has him intoxicated.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
No, I agree with that. Yeah, I stop saying that.
I'll poke you. No, I agree with that, even with
the ABC, because he is livid that ABC put Kimmel
back on, and he said, well, you know, the last
time I went up against them, I got sixteen million.
This could be very lucrative for me. So you know,
it's it's the taunting, it's that type of stuff. But
(29:23):
I agree with you. I don't even I can't tell
you I know enough about cash Battel other than like
if he could actually do the job. But I can
tell you after watching those hearings last week or the
week before when he was there, he was there with
I think it was the Senate. He does not have
the temperament for it. He was goading them back. He
(29:44):
wouldn't answer the questions. That's what you're there. You have
to answer the questions. But here's the problem, and we
both have kept kept seeing this. I knew what Trump
was going to do, and I knew what his administration
was going to do. They told us we could be disappointed,
and we were heartbroken when he won, and not because
the GOP, one because Trump won, and he told us
(30:04):
he was going on a retribution tour while he was running.
But what I'm disappointed is that nobody is holding him
accountable like should should they have held him in contempt?
I don't know what is the rule when you don't
answer the senatece questions and you're in a hearing, you're
in a hearing to answer, and when you're when you're
goading them and acting like a fool, I just don't.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
It's it's it's so disappointing.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
So I know, I don't. I think you're on it.
He doesn't have the temperament. He doesn't have it. He
doesn't have it. You have to be able to tap down.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You don't like to call me, but but he had it.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And then you put him in a position of power
over the FBI, and he is a hot heat. He
was like a damn sophomore in high school with the
back and forth and then jumping up and down like
a damn kid. And I'm telling you right now, if
you are this angry and you are controlling the FBI
was over a bunch of police and detectives and people
(31:04):
in that you sprew whatever you have, what energy is transferred, well,
you sprew that out to your employees. First of all,
you would never qualify to be in this position. You
would put in this position because you was a kiss
ass and you're still a kiss ass, which across that
asge and I said that didn't come from laugh and learn,
that came from flame Monbrough. But it's scary, Bobby, for
somebody like that to And we see him sitting publicly
(31:27):
in this seat and he raises his voice long before
the Democrats or anybody else asks him, cause he gets loud,
He gets combative, he gets defensive because he cannot answer
the question. He is ill equipped with the information. He
is not the person that should have this position. And
first of all, he don't know how to handle that.
We could see that what he should do is take
(31:48):
a play out of Caroline Levit's playbook. I ain't crazy
about her, but you can't break that helper. That half
a twenty eight years old and will not get broken.
I don't know who trained there, but they train the
shit out.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Of her, Oh who, her elderly husband and her two babies.
Between the babies screaming all day, the two and the
one year old, and her seventy two year old husband
or whatever he is, God bless them. She's she's totally trained.
Between the dementia and the terrible twos, She's got it.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, y'all is it? It's time for Fan the flames,
and we got quite a few subjects to cover on
the Fan of Flames today. The first one I want
to start off is I want every all the people
of color in this country, black people especially, to please
be very leary. They're coming up with more and more
black people coming up missing. One woman went in the hospital.
(32:41):
They found her months later with her organs missing, a
black woman. We are not as black people. We do
not beat ourselves and then hang ourselves some trees do
we have commit suicide. All nationalities commit suicide. Some people
commit suicide because they feel loss or empty. But we
do not beat ourselves as Black people and then hang
our sales from trees. Y'all can believe whatever hype you
(33:01):
want to believe that, but I'm telling you, as a
black person in this country, that's not what we do.
It needs to be looked into and you need to
keep your head on the swivel because the ice is
now rounding up everybody. The scariest part for me, as
an American and as black American and a person of
trans experience in this country is the dogs they're putting out.
I hate, Bobby that everything that happens in this country
(33:24):
that happens to the gops, that they are flipping and weaponized.
And to say that trans, they affiliate trans with it,
they flip it to put it. Even if they just
throw the name up in there, we ain't had nothing
to do with it, but they flip it, they throw
up in there because what they want to do is
petrified people against the trans people in this country to
(33:46):
make us look like the most dangerous people on the planet.
And it's just crazy to me, Bobby, That's very scary
to me. I heard I saw on social media, not
social media, on the news where he really is trying
to sign an order that I could possibly be able
to arrest trans people on the street like they do
for immigrants. Do you know what that? Do you know
(34:07):
that entails? Bobby, I'm going to the grocery store. I'm
on stage, and y'all come and get me.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I wait till they get one masculine woman that they
think is somehow trance and she beats the shit out
of them. You know somebody who's we call a handsome
woman first, it's a pretty woman, and they get the ride.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'm telling my story. Don't we tell them my story?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I will tell you something that I've asked. We talked this. Yeah,
we've talked about this on this show before.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I would have totally a year ago disagreed with you
and thought you were nuts, or but thought you were
being paranoid. But I have watched and the dog whistle
is the perfect, the perfect word for it. I'm watching
the testing happen, and not just with trans people, also
to people all sorts of subjects. They're trying to see,
almost like a toddler, what they can get away with,
(34:57):
what they can put out there. And when people get outraged,
we just start with free speech, so they see, now,
what's going to happen if you take away our free
speech right? It's not going to go well. But they're
trying to see, how about this, how about the trans
how about LGBT, how about whatever it is, how about
birth control? They're trying to, uh, put it on the
(35:20):
fringes and see if we're outraged and we're willing to
fight for it or we're not. Well, they're on enough
trans people and they're on enough trans supporters. Because if
you're somebody that never had prior to you, I never
had anybody trans in my life, I just wouldn't have
thought about it. I would have stood by it because
what's right is right, and you've got to do the
right thing. To me, that's just how I am. But
not everybody is built the same way. So they're just
(35:42):
trying to see what they can get away with by
just mentioning that mental illness. If people don't come out
and they're not outraged and they're not calling their congress
man or woman or senator whatever, you know, we're going
to be in trouble.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
We just saw you.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
You started the show off by saying, when we act
as a fist and we stand together, our boycotting, our purses,
our votes, as much as you think you're one, doesn't
it makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
So if we boycott and we say, who the hell
are you to say that?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
And make sure that the people that are that are
representing you in your area go back to Congress and
say no, we're going to do away with that because
my people aren't going to vote me back in if
that's what we need to start doing.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
But I agree with you. There are absolute this testing going.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
On and according to MSNBC just yesterday, twelve hundred people
have come up missing from alligated Alcatrass, twelve hundred images.
They're just missing, They're just gone. So all kind of
thoughts went through my head, Bobby when I saw that, Like, so,
did y'all put them out there for the alligators to eat?
(36:50):
You know? Where did these people go? Because they talk
about how barbaria the conditions are in alligated Alcatrass. Y'all
didn't let the people go. You can't gonna walk off
that either. You have to be in some kind of
you know, land cruise ship. So where where are these
twelve hundred people? And again I said this on laugh
and learned before. I think that was a test run
(37:11):
because they want to lock up mentally ill people. They
have deemed trans people mentally ill from the top. Then
you want to say that we're now we're crazy and
we're shooting the right wing. Uh. And then now you
want to sign a bill to say that we can't
carry guns, it's illegal for trans people to have weapons. Well,
if you didn't stop it for the school shootings, you
can't have it both ways. If you're going to do
(37:31):
gun control for one group, community organization, you have to
do it for the entire country. You don't get to
have it both ways. That is what we're going to
really have to stand up to. That is what it's
going to be monstrous, because then you didn't told people
right well, and then you told people I'm gonna kill it,
and now you to put a target on my back.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
No, but I can't to put a target on my.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Back where I can't defend myself.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Shit, yeah, I think you said it, though.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I think what will stop them, what will kind of
shut that down flame is if they're going to have
gun control for one, they are going to have to
look at it. This is a can just like immigration
that people have been kicking down down the street for
the past seventy five years, and nobody wants to take
I don't know a soul that wants to take anybody's
guns away. They just want to make sure there were
(38:21):
red flags put in place and all that jazz. They
want actual, actual reform and we don't need to have
assault weapons when you're out you shooting Bambi, And they
just want to have, you know, reasonable reform.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
But I think that.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Maybe the trans people are going to help us out
in a way, because if they're going to reform it
for you, they're going to have to do it from
the top down, and they're never going to want to
do that. But again, if they're own sell people, what
aren't we talking about. We're not talking about the prices
going up and all that jazz. We're not talking about
the important stuff. Some people are still hot on top
(38:56):
of it. For the Epstein files, I want the Epstein
files out, you know, I'm so sick of hearing that name.
I am so sick of the whole thing. I don't
I don't think the files are going to include what
we actually what they actually hope they're going to include.
I think that when those girls came forward and they
said that they were going to create their own lists
and all this jazz that had more power than what's.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Actually going to be in here. I think people are
going to be very disappointed when they see.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Well, let me tell you Somebobby, at this late stage
of the game, even if the Epstein files come out,
they have all cash for tail hired a thousand workers
to scrub the names off of the list. So that's
a thousand more people, Bobby, that have that's the thousand
more people that have seen the list. So now you
got even more people that know whose names are on
(39:44):
their list. Somebody is going to be bought out untel
and release because somebody copied that, Bobby. You know, somebody
made a copy of it somewhere down the line. Somebody
is going to know. And it's been so much time.
Wait a minute, it's been so much time, Bobby, that
they have so much time to hide some ship. So
if they release the FSA files, now you know they
(40:05):
un scrubbed off all the important names from the Republican side.
It's so it'll be bullshit. I've wanted them released months ago.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Do you think that they're actually ever included everything that
you wanted them to include or I think he would
He would have been selective, just like people's hearings sometimes
I don't think he put in or everything can be
so coded, you know. I just don't know. I just
don't think people are gonna they're looking for some sort
of aha. And I don't think we're gonna when they're released,
you're gonna get that.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
I think the only AHA moment is over here when
you take my I think the only AHA moment is
over here when you take my pennies off and you
say oh aha, oh my, oh.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
My, I don't commercial break. Come on, Bobby, what were
you saying? Baby? So?
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Oh no, oh my is all I said.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
I don't know if you want to go to the
great escalator caper at the UN General Assembly, everybody has done.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, but now the escalator. Let me tell you something, Bobby.
This is how you know that these are children in
charge because mechanical things break down. You were that man
that you had to walk halfway up the escalator? Are you?
And then you go there and you go on a rant,
on a tirade in front of the entire world. But Bobby,
(41:32):
the embarrassment is to the American people because this is
our leader. This is the person that we not me.
I mean when I say we, I mean us as
a country that we have put in office to run
our country. And he talked about everything but the topics
that was important in hand in front of the world, Bobby,
And like you said, the man sitting there looking at him,
(41:53):
they could even keep a straight face. How embarrassing to
think that we are looked at as the greatest country
in the world and we get a slow poke speaking
for us.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
I'll tell you, you know, you know, I'm not a
big Millennia, a Millennia fan, but I gave her she.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Was a baller that it stopped. She looked.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
They both looked. They must have said, we don't know
what's going on. She just marched up. He went on.
He went on at the un and if my wife
wasn't in such good condition, well we're all in good condition.
I mean he he probably, I will say almost eighty
almost dropped dead. That that was one steep escalator. But
she just walked up like she wasn't going to sit
there like an imbecile. She just kept going. I said,
you go, Milania. She didn't slow it down. She she
(42:35):
had them go up. But it was no triple sabotage.
They said, what they think is his film person bumped
there's an emergency bump as an emergency button to stop
and until somebody gets caught, and he he hit it
by mistake filming. He said he didn't like the teleprompter.
He had to mention the teleprompter. The White House staff
(42:56):
was running the teleprompter. Nobody from the un you know.
This is when he was in this is we pay
for this building. Look at and look at all the things.
And he didn't like the audio. I can't speak for that.
Nobody else had I guess had a problem or or
complained about the audio. But he got up there and
he said, you know, we have to stop the experiment
of immigration. All your countries have been destroyed, their garbage.
(43:17):
Who says that He said that that climate change is
the biggest con job ever. He just went on. It's
that I wanted him to sound a little more presidential.
The only thing that I liked that he said was
that he he met with Zelensky after and he said
that he needs help and and he deserves to win
(43:39):
the war, and he should be able to gain back
all of his all of his space. I am sure
I of Vladimir sat there and went, this is what
I've been.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Saying for through off years. You know, of course we did.
But he said some crazy stuff. He had he said
some mass not massing things. In seven months he has
stopped seven wars. Do you know the seven wars he started?
Maybe we don't know, or it's not just I didn't know,
but I'm like, these are the.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
People your co hosts on this show. Flame Roe has
seen it and said today and have said it many
times before. Give him a microphone and four minutes and
just let him go, and I promise you will see
all the clouds in that coffee, because there's some clouds
in that coffee, Bobby Clifford, they are. And the last
(44:25):
We're angry because I'm laughing at it, and I'm laughing
at it because I know we're being laughed at as
a country and that that humiliates me.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
I heard.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
It was on, I think it was on.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
I was it on Good Morning America one of the
morning shows had on had a It was a UK
like a Good Morning America but in the UK on
and one of the concerns they said was, we're hoping
that people aren't laughing at us, and they said Europeans
aren't laughing at at Americans.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
They're concerned for them.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Because they know that he wasn't everybody's He wasn't necessarily
everybody's choice. But he says this crazy stuff that may
have worked beautifully for him in business, but it doesn't.
You have to be a statesman. You have to be
careful and you have to hold your car cards close
to your best and this just isn't the guy who does.
He's angry with everybody that's calling calling for a Palestinian state,
(45:22):
you know, because now France is the newest. You know,
Canada has, UK has Portugal, Australia. There's a bunch of
other countries that are that are calling for it. He
wants to stand with net and Yahoo, but we need
we need a two state solution. I mean, there's really
I mean, he thinks it's helping Hamas. I don't know
how it's going to help himas. I mean, they have
nothing but rubble there. For the love of God, there's
(45:42):
nothing there. But I just he did it to me. Unfortunately,
I was disappointed because he didn't sound presidential. As much
as you wanted to pick on Joe Biden, he never
said crazy mess stuff.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
He might have been a little slower on the take
and because he was thinking about what was coming out
of his mouth, but he yeah, I was a little.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
What we do is you said something earlier in the
show that I think is very important, and what you
said was they need to look like statesmen, they need
to be presidential, they need to look like powerheads. And hopefully,
like you said, some people still hold holding on to
their patriotism, to their Americanism, to the point of we
(46:32):
want to save our America as we know it. So
even with some of his magas turning on him MTG
and all that, so many people are just because you
could have knocked me over for a fellow, when Marjorie
Taylor Green went against Trump, I was like, what. But
I think a lot of people are starting to realize
how much trouble we really are in under this regime.
(46:54):
So hopefully everybody will find their strength and become a
fist as opposed to the five fingers, because you saw
the impact that the fist had. If we could do
that for Jimmy Kimmel, we can do that for America.
We could do this, Bobby, and we could get our
country back. We could get back to basics and not
be in so much hate and division in this country.
(47:15):
But it's not up to me, and it's not up
to you. It is up to us collectively as a country.
So I hope that we can do this. Y'all who's
listening out there in Laugh and Learn Land, and please
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(47:36):
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(47:58):
and on that. Nobobby cliff where can we follow you,
my darling?
Speaker 5 (48:01):
You can follow me on Instagram at Clifford Bobby also
Laugh and Learn podcast. Please send me some some fan
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Speaker 4 (48:14):
How about you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I'm everywhere at Flame Monroe on Instagram on Monroe Flame.
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(48:37):
Which one are you going to choose? I'm telling you
right now, the five fingers will grab you, but the
fifths will stop you. Let's stop the bullshit in our
country and stick together as Americans because that's what is important.
And we are not trying to change your mind. Here
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Speaker 4 (49:02):
Mind and your vote are a terrible thing to.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Waste, and we are not wasting no more time we
been wasting nine months ago with shit. Let's fix it.
Let's fix it. Let's fix it. Have a great week,
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