January 19, 2023 • 41 mins
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Do what you do. Do what you do, helpis do
what I do. Hey, welcome to laugh and learn, ladies
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and gem I'm your host, Flaming Roe, along with my
gorgeous co host, Lauren Hogan. Hi Lauren Hogan, Hi flam Monroe.
How are you? Y'all? Can't see aaron? That's our produced
Slory Hogan. If I'm talking a little slow, we're taping
a little late, and I'm feeling quite wonderful. Uh, Lauren,
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do you know what today? Yesterday is January sixteenth, but
technically today is the national holiday the day that we
celebrate the birth of the one and only father of
the Civil Rights UH Party, Mr Dr mar Luther King.
JI here, Yes, today is marm Luther King Jr. Day. Um,
So we are celebrating and acknowledging Dr King and all
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that he's done for black folks in this country. Um.
And I myself actually went to the Kingdom Day parade
in Los Angeles that goes all the way down Martin
Luther King Boulevard about three miles. So I walked three
whole miles today with plates. Girl, You're gonna be skinny.
I'm trying to recognized that the King, Dr King, I love.
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I love Dr King, I loved all the Doctor King
still foe with the exception of the non violence because
if you put your hands on mother father school, that
reminds me. Have you seen the new statue that was
erected in Boston. I can't make that what it is. Lord,
I have seen it, but I keep seeing it from
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weird angles, so I'm not sure it looked like. Girl,
I can't make out what it is. It's their arms,
so it's like Coretta's arms and then m Martin Luther
King's arms. Because did you see the photo that was inspiration.
Like basically, he just took their arms out of their
embracing photo. And that's what the scope Okay, because all
the angles, I say, reaches up. I'm like, well, girl,
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what is it? Yes, a lot of people were kind
of saying the same thing, like, well what is it?
So people were saying, why don't we just erect the
full picture instead of just the arms? People were confused.
But you know, art is an interpretation of the mirine,
I guess, so it may be interpretation, man, but I
needed a better picture because I couldn't hear what the
hell was going on. I don't know what it was.
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And it's in Philadelphia, right, it's in Boston, Okay. It's
like if you look at it from the right angle,
you can like tell that it's Corretta's arms because she
has her ring on her finger and everything. But yeah,
it's very abstract. Its abstract. Art coredit what that ring
with pride? And I just want to say jokingly, I
don't supposed to say it today, but since y'all gonna
hear this to tomorrow, out of respect for King On
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on his day, I don't want to say it. But
since y're gonna here to mom, gonna say it. Dr
King's motto was we shall overcome? Or wasn't we shall
come over? Because rumor hasn't He made a lot of
house of it in here. Nothing to do with civil rights.
We all know that Dr King was a bit of
a rolling stone. He personally. I want to say, I
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think that j Evergan Hooper was the first personal perpet
because I think he was beating off to listen to
all those King takes, because they say King was putting
it down from state to state, But who couldn't stop
listening to him talk something? He was using them for
black mail? Was he using them for black mail? Or
was it only fans long before y'all do about it? Oh?
I said, yes, I did. You were in rare form tonight? Alright?
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I told you, Aaron, let me way too long? You
just sleeing. Well, I'm back to the more sentimental side
of the day. So, um, yes, we do want to
acknowledge Dr King and all that he did for society. Um.
One thing I will say that I think that's so
interesting is that the things that he was advocating for,
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you know, in the fifties and the sixties are still
relevant today, which is kind of crazy to still think
almost fifty years later. It almost feels like we're stuck
in a bit of a time warp um, but it's
we're still advocating for the same things that he was.
So sometimes it makes you look twice and be like,
are we really moving forward? You know? So, and let
me get credit where credit is due. Shout out to
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this country for at least acknowledging this powerful black man
that did that changed the labs of not only African
American black people, but he changed the laves of lots
of people because it was a lot of white and
and other people that were part of the movement that
just wanted fairness in this country and wanted to change.
So shout out to him, all of them for that.
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Rest in peace, my Luther King who he was killed
April the fourth at the Lorraine Hotelmphis. Yes it was
in Tennessee. He would have been ninety four. Was his
birthday is actual birthday was yesterday, It's so he would
have been ninety four years old. Shout out to all
the brilliant Capricorns, starting with my son, yeah, and my
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nut the King and all. So we get back to
the King because we want to do some King quotes
and some King memories. At the end of the show.
We got way too much other stuff to jump into.
Let's jump into this girl. Last night they had another
Awards show. Oh my god, they did have another Awards show,
and black magic and Black Excellence was definitely prevalent. Um Shirley,
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Ralph Jue, Nissy Nash One, Quincy quentincon Brunson one and
Abbott Elementary one too, So a lot of black folks
got a lot of recognition. Um. And I love the
speeches too, didn't you. I love the speeches. I must
tell you, Loren, You're not get on you all the
time about your black but I must tell you that
your girl, Angie, But I'm sorry, our girl, Angie Bassett
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set the room last night, and that black count to
me girl when she came out. When she came out
to present the award and I could get the full
owned gown, I was like, okay, miss, and don't don't
play with these. Help us, okay, miss, and you don't
play with And she won as well too. I think
everybody that was dressed in black last night. I'm rooting
for everybody black as in Easter, rate would say, because
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they all look fabulous. Janellemunde, j Ellis, every Quinta, everybody
that wore black, everybody's black dressers were lovely. But I
will acknowledge I did like Sherill and her gold dress.
I love the cutter that dress. But NISI nash to me,
somebody took a paintbrush and put that dress off her.
Oh my god, she looked incredible. Yeah, her body was
definitely sickening. It was like it was giving what it
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was supposed to. I say, I know Jessica had a
good time last night taking her up out of that gown. Baby,
that's her, her husband hers her. Yes, So I'm glad that.
You know, even though they didn't win as many awards
at the Golden Globes, they got their record mission um
in another you know, in another way. So congratulations. Want
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to shout out Viola Davis. Viola Davis is still my
favorite right now, and I'm telling you, but she lost
to my other favorite, which is Kate Blanchet. So I
can't be angry about Hallo. And I love that Kate
acknowledge not only all the ladies that she was up
against in the category, but all the great brilliant actresses
and actors that was in the room, and she was like,
Kate is so Kate is like a British hood. Oh
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she's so fun and she cusses and everything. Oh my god,
I love her. But she is a brilliant acts That
lady can do anything, just like I have Viola. They
can do anything. I will say like I and I
could be wrong, but I don't know if Woman King
has won any of the larger you know awards yet.
So I'm waiting on the Oscar. That's all I'm gonna say,
because I needed to get its recognition because it was
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a hell of a movie that they did. It was
like for them to get that and hopefully well, and
I know they nominated for a bunch of end Up
Lacey p Awards which is also coming up, and I
want us to be recognized by us, So I hope
they do a big sweep over there. But it's a
whole bunch of Peach people. I want to do a
sweep over there. P Valley. Good God, the writing on
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that show was just unbelievable. So we'll see. But who hosted?
Oh Chelsea Handler host Now she did change gowns a
couple of times. She won a couple of cocktail dresses.
I like that. I didn't see her the full own show,
but I went and watched the clip. I thought she
was pretty good. I thought, well, compared to what I
seen last week, she was. She was remarkable. Are you
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coming shade? Is that shade that I hear? No, that
was the truth. I didn't actually watch the show either,
so I don't know how Chelsea did, but I just
you know, I watched Chelsea lately, so I always think
that Chelsea's gonna do a good job. She's funny, and
she moved it along. She got it on through and
everybody looked nice. It was pleasant, went off for no hiccups,
So good hats off to the Critics Choice Awards. What's next?
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What's the next one coming up? Um? We got the
Grand Means that are coming up, and Double A CP
Image Awards are coming up. You know, it's awards season,
so I think we've got until about March. We probably
got at least I think like four to six more
awards shows that are going to be happening. I'm very
interesting to see who's hostingp Awards. But we'll we'll see
I might even get an inbody who knows Auntie who?
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Where we where we're going? Where we're going? We have
to talk about COVID. Oh wait a minute long. We
didn't acknowledge the winner of Best Movie of the Year.
So now it makes me want to see that movie.
Clay had one Best Actress for Todd. I've seen Todd.
It was intense. But that other movie, the Asian movie,
isn't everything everywhere all that once? They wont be Oh yeah,
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I want to see it. Yeah, I haven't seen it either.
I'm not as much of a movie watcher as I
should be. Um, I will admit that. So I'm gonna
go back and see to your point, who's actually winning,
because I can go watching those movies. But because I thought,
like the Shape of Water made no sense to me,
you know, they won big, So I'm always a little skeptical,
but I'll go and watch them. Yeah, it makes you
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a question like what what what? What? What? What makes
it the best? What you're looking for? Because I was
with you on that Shape of Water. I think I
was a little I had a lovely too, so girl,
and I tell you up that down in the theater,
I don't know what the hell was exactly, so but anyway,
we haven't we haven't talked about COVID. I don't think
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this entire season, but now we got to talk about
COVID in this vaccine. So long story short, Maderna is
being very greedy on the money front. They are now
charging people a hundred and thirty dollars to get a vaccine,
but it only costs two dollars and eighty five cents
to make. So the billions of dollars that they're gonna
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be making out, well, they've already made billions, let's just
start there for developing the vaccine and getting their patent.
But the amount of farm agreed is just a little
crazy gourd. That takes me back two two thousand and
twenty early when you and I were on the Breakfast
Club shout out to the Breakfast of Charlemagne and DJ
(12:11):
Envy and uh you were talking about big farmer then,
because when they you were talking about a cure for
HIV and AIDS because your other job where you're a
big big or hf AIDS health Care Foundation. If y'all
for dolls who listen, don't know what those acronyms stand
for Lord is still there and still a big wig there.
And you were talking about the money is in the
treatment and not the cure, because I'm like, how are
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you going to charge poor people if if y'all don't
want the world And this is just my crazy logic,
how are you going if you want the world to
survive and people to live, why would you charge a
hundred and thirty year dollars, especially to poor people or
people in a financial crisis, for something that costs less
than three dollars to make. It's always about making the
rich people richer and the poor people poor. That's really
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what it is at the end of the and it's
so sad, but that's why we have the economy that
we have, in the societal glass that we have, because
people don't want poor people to succeed. That's not the
name of the game. It's let's make the rich people richer.
You know. We see that in government, we see that
in so many aspects of our society in life, and
it's no different when it comes to healthcare. It's the
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same thing that is so scary, good God, And is
that just for the vaccine not the boosters that's just
the vaccine. That's just the vaccine. So I don't even
know what the charges because what number boosts we on
right now, I can't remember. I've gotten to and I'm good.
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I'm good girl. If it's left up to them, it'd
be six. A year, baby, it'd be five. We'll be
at number five four. Yeah, but I mean I've told
you too. I don't even get flu shots because the
last time I got a flu shot, I was twelve
and I ended up with the stomach virus and I
got the flu. You know, this food was really bad
this year, so I got it. Now, but that's fifteen
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years later. I haven't had the flu, So that's a
that's a ridiculous mark up. Though. That is they always
want to talk about ponzi schemes who all doing illegal
stuff that should be illegal, that should honestly be illegal,
And it wouldn't be if we didn't know that it
costs two dollars and thirty eight cent or whatever. But
since we do know, that should be illegal. But this
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is their country and they do what they want to do. Yeah,
it's at the end of the day, they monopolize the market.
They have the products, so they can attach whatever price
type that they want to. It's really, it's really sad.
I'm planning to make the real thing. Okay, I'm glad.
I'm glad. Look who I got my two dollars and
thirty eight. Yes, I do where we're going. So we
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got to talk about our dear President Joe Biden. He's
in a bit of a situation right now. Let me
tell you something on behalf of Joe Biden. I'm gonna
be very very honest. Girl. He forgot. Let's let's go
with that. Yes, he just forgot. He for god. It's
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different with Trump. Trump was hides of ship. Biden's yes, forgot,
you know, the nigga like two hundred and thirty seven
years old. He forgot. I'm gonna go with that at
this point because and I will say, there is grave differences.
We're not comparing Joe Biden to Trump. Yes, you know,
flamemate a joke. But Joe Biden is cooperating with you know, um,
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the d O j anytime he found these documents, he
called the National Archives. Trump didn't do that. You know,
Trump's residents had to have FBI come in and get
all the documents back because he didn't want to give
him up. There's grave differences, but it's still bad because
it's giving the Republicans ammunition to of course create a
conspiracy or a narrative that, you know, why was Trump,
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you know, being ridiculed and his house was rated. Is
giving them a narrative to push, which is not good.
So and plus there's a special counsel that's also been
elected to investigate this case from Joe Biden, which is
not a good thing either. That's the name of this episode, Errant.
He forgot He just I honestly believe that he really
forgot long. I think he and now thinking an absent
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manded way, but I think because he didn't think that
they were significant, and he was going on to be
become the president and his son and he had so
much other stuff going on. It was locked up in
the garage with his corvette, just like he's saying now,
I'm sure he ain't driving that corvette that often. You know,
he fell off the bike. Be damned if he's gonna
be driving, he says, is locked up in his garage
very safely, and that's where some of these documents were found.
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So that's what I'm saying it ain't like he pulled
the corvette out on weekends to go driving. You see
what happened on the body, Kale. So the papers are safe,
like on the stairs up the plane um, on the
stairs up the way to the plane um. But also
to uh, the GOP House Oversight chair also can't explain why,
and all of a sudden they want to launch an
investigation into this too, but he can't explain why he's
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doing that. So you know, the Republicans got the house
back and are doing a lot of unexplainable things that
really don't make any sense. But speaking speaking of unexplained
about rumor looked like it looked like Kevin McCarthy's want
to keep Santo's own. They ain't hold him because the
GPS want him out and want him off. They don't
want him to have no power, They don't want him
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to be afforded any other luxury because he lied. I
listened then, as much as I disagree with so many
things that they have done, I completely agree with them
out as he lied all the way. Well, it just
keeps getting worse because not only did Santos lie like
bringing news today was showing that his firm that he
had was a Ponzi scheme. So it just keeps getting worse,
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the revelations that are coming, you know, out behind Santos.
So here's the real question, Lauren. It's his real name,
George Santos. I don't believe nothing now at this point,
I don't either. Because he said he went to UH
school on a volleyball scholarship. He's had to knee replacements,
not with that shape. It turns out he never went
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to this school. He There is no volleyball scholarship to
school that he was referring to. They don't even offer
athletic scholarships. It was just really bad. I was watching
the interviews today and people kept laughing at him. I
was like, that's just embarrassing. Why, like, why do you
have to Why are you compelled to lie that much?
But what kind of nerves that he does? This man
have that the whole world? Oh, well, let me go
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say that, because you know we got one of them too.
Oh I'm not gonna say his name, but empire. Oh anyway,
Well I didn't say I didn't, I didn't say anything,
So I don't. I don't know what's gonna happen with
Mr Santos, but it just keeps getting worse by the day.
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I don't like that that the government not be Republican
on Democrat. This man is a clear blading out now
lying and before you put him in a position to
sit in a boardroom to hear so called secrets that
you made at an ex president and a sitting president
about old paper why would you allow the enemy to
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sit in something that's brent that's happening now when you
know that he is lying to me, you see all
of that. You're mad And I ain't defending Trump, but
y'all mad at Trump about some old paperwork. You're mad
abiding about some old paperwork. But you're allowing somebody who
lied to your face. You didn't count this man in
a lie every day, But you're gonna allow him to
sit and listen to the stuff that is happening now.
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How you know he won't turn on us and and
put the more America and more America. Sometimes American saints
real government saints real stupid. To me, I said, I
was being nice, glowing day speaking of other things that
the GOP is doing that's putting, you know, our economy
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at risk. Let's talk about this whole debt ceiling crisis
that we might be in. I heartened. How can y'all
pay me before we go into recession? So, as of yesterday,
UM House Republicans won't budge on demands for federal spending
cuts in return for agreeing to lift the debt ceiling
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and avoid a US payment default, GOP representative James Comer said,
as a federal government moved closer to breaching its statutory
debt limit, lawmakers on Sunday mostly talked past each other.
Republicans renewed demands for cuts, and Democrats insisted that the
government be allowed to honor commitments made by previous Congresses.
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So the Republicans, of course, who just gained control of
the House in the US midterm election campaign on the
fact that we were going to be serious about spending cuts.
So the Republicans are basically just like, we need to
cut spending and if we reach a debt ceiling, so
be it. We don't care about the American people or
the economy. Well, when they when they raised a shot
to say last from two dollars to thirty eight sent
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to a hundred and thirty dollars, they already said that
without saying it, so oh, um, we'll see what happens. Um.
But this is just it's interesting to me because I
think about all of the American voters that voted for
these Republicans to be in office, and everything that they're
pushing for now is like nothing of what they ran on.
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So I wonder how they have to feel as an
American voter that you were swindled. You don't stop talking
about West Virginia after they voted for Trump and he can't.
You know, I told you didn't kick in. You know,
I'm on Baby comedy. Uh what's the name of the show?
The Daily Show. I hope y'all listening, baby, because I'm
telling you I'm ready to sit there say. Um. I
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think it's ridiculous. I think it, and I think that
people in charge that the supposed that it signed up
to service and help other people should be ashamed of themselves,
should be damn ashamed of yourself that you have let
money consume everything empower and I just but there is
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no shame. That's why Santos is still sitting the way.
There is no shame. There is no shame. There isn't
at the end of the day, it's always about power,
and it's really sad to say that these Republicans just
don't care about the American people and the American people
elected y'all. That's the crazy part. Uh, what are you eating?
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Is that cake? We're recording a show. I'm not eating.
But No, it's just really sad though at this point
in time that we're like, I'm just nervous that we're
gonna be on the brink of an economic crisis at
this point, basically with the um the House being Republican led.
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I mean, luckily we still have a Democratic Senate, so
a lot of their legislation that they may have passed
in the House is it's gonna die because you know,
the Senate is not gonna pass it. And then we
also still have a democratic president. But it's just very concerning.
It's very concerning. M So people just have become cattle.
People are like numbers. Everything is a number, number number.
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I think that's why I'm so against self checkout. No,
I don't like talking to automated stuff. I want to
talk to person. What is self checkout do to you?
I love self check out or I hate stelf checkout
A long Oh my god, I hate self checkout really
because I hate looking at the vengeans and stuff, so
I just still the people. Wait a minute, care what
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you're honest about. It's okay, we've lost some things. I
used to sell water out of war. I mean only
want to look up bail peppers on you. I just
want me to bag and slide them over to the side.
Taking somebody's job. Speaking of taking somebody's job and self checkout,
I know this, they're on the topic. I'm just throwing
it out there anyway. So the testlas, I see they
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have lowered the price on teslas because they're not performed
or they're not doing as well as they used to.
Because here in California, just this past weekend, a testla's stop.
Remember my joke I always tell about, I don't want
no card with no brains drive me, because if you
get to a cliff and it can't make up with
this man, I don't want to tail with all. Louise
and the car just stopped in the middle of the freeway.
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Lauren and Nan car accident. It just decided didn't want
it to stop, so it stopped right in the middle
of traffic doing a freeway and nine cards here the
baby was injured, a lot of people injured. I'm not
and I'm not bashing Tesla. I can't afford one right
now in no way. But I don't want one because
I can drive my own sale and Elon Musk also
lost two hundred billion dollars in a day his Tesla
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stock plummeted to so I'm sure that's a contributing factor.
But when I've written in Tesla's it feels like I'm
in a spaceship. I don't feel grounded. I don't like
feeling like that when I'm driving. So I'm not a
fan of Teslas either. But um, yeah, we're going towards
automated cars and robots. I thought Elon Musk made a
tweet about at the other day too, that the future
is going to be robots or something like that. No,
(24:54):
thank you, he already looked a little robody. I want
me a flying car, though. That's gonna be even worse
for air traffic control. You saw that the whole air
uh what's it called, the f d A air traffic
control grid went down. Yeah, I saw that. Thirty and
thirty years they neither updating and dad was a great
segue into us talking about the horrible accident that happened
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over and where and the plane crashed and all seventy
people that. Yeah, that's always like my biggest nightmare too,
is just to be on a plane in the plane crash. Now,
I guess nobody really knows what happened, but you know,
pretty there were no survivors. So prayers go out to
all of those people's families who lost their lives. But
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it's just it's crazy that a plane just went down
and nobody knows why, and they have the black they
recovered the black box and they have video up. I
know it's very graphic to watch though, you guys, uh,
you're playing right before it went down, and then you
can actually see some of the flames because somebody was
actually recording, and I think they would lad recording it
went out. But that is scary. But it when we
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get to King, because one of my favorite quotes is
from King is about death. Remind me to say that
at the end because I might remember that. I don't
remember the first part of this conversation right now anyway,
what happened in the pole, Yeah, that's very tragic. Praying
to all the paper families and people involved. But I'm
asking you, Lauren, I think that I think that was
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a dark area. I don't think that they were shot down,
but I think that was a dark area, which is
like no fly, it's very possible. My whole thing is
nobody knows what happened that. That doesn't make sense to
me because you have to get clearance to fly. So
how do you not know what happened to a plane
that it ended up crashing. Maybe the the system went
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down over there like it did over here, I guess,
But that's just it's I got a lot of questions,
so the math wasn't mathing for me. And to lose
seventy two people, that's just unacceptable. But well to say
any too, Yeah, seventy two people lost their lives. Jesus, Jesus, Jesu. Money,
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money and power don't matter when you're up in the air.
You ain't gotta control over machine. Machines. Machines make mistakes
just like people. Yeah, people can apologize if your machine
snatch your arm off, it's just snatched off. M And
continuing with that, the war in Ukraine. You're still sending
prayers over to Ukraine. Um, they did an air mischel
strike today and they killed I believe, over forty civilians
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at once. Um. They were saying that this is one
of the more deadliest civilian attacks in Ukraine. UM. Putin,
I don't I don't know what I have to say
about him. He's his own countrymen have turned on him.
There's people that were fleeing Russia because they didn't want
to fight a pointless war just to you know, fuel
his ego, and people keep dying unnecessarily. But I will
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say everybody didn't know, not everybody. Nobody thought that Ukraine
was gonna win. They're winning, So it's very tragic this
is happening right now. And like I said, we're set
in press to Ukraine. But they're winning and Putin is losing.
That's because Zelinsky is a beast baby. I likes me.
Some zelinscular tall, little, but it's tall self. I like me.
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He tall to look he about five five, but stall
small in stature and mighty in his heart. He got
a he does. He has the heart of a lion
because he's not he he fights for his country. I
can't say that about some leaders that we have had
had in the bunkers. So sure are some leaders that
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have done smilar things that Putin did. But Iraq o
prayers to Irene, I mean to a Ukraine. I hope
that that war is done with soon. So many people
lost their lives and the situation had to leave that
country and start over either. And I think that's what
really bothers me when it's older people and you get this,
(28:54):
you displaced older people because as a seasoned person myself,
when you're at your home, you and your compass on,
you can you know, you can feel your way through
the dark, whether you're old or you know, incapacitated or whatever.
But they have removed a lot of those people out
of their comfort zones. That's got to be disheartening. That's
got to be messed up. Yeah, and to be displaced too.
To your point, it's its memories, you know, childhood. It's
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just it's a lot, you know, it's it's I've read
somebody that Putin but they they they challenging his his
mental stability. I want to see it correctly. I want
to say something else, but I'm trying to be nice. Well,
I think they tried to well. I think he just
had an election a few years ago and it was
for him to be president for front of the thirteen
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years or something like that. So I don't know. I
don't want to put anything negative out there, but I'm
gonna just say somebody needs to do something. I know
he's heavily guarded, but he's just he's problematic. He's very
problematic for the country. Good old young woman like to
turn him out, then he won't have time to be
so angry. Well, you know, he was a part of
(29:59):
the whole so A union regime, so he's very much
a dictator, so dangerous, it's very dangerous. He needs him.
A young woman should turn him out. Uh uh. With
the paperwork, with putting back to I mean back with Biden. Lord,
I think it's just I think it's just they're trying
to throw ashes on Biden's fire because nobody ain't doing
(30:22):
a great job. But he's doing a pretty decent job.
He coming through with some promises that he said he
was going to do, and I think they're trying to
make discourage him because next year, if he hasn't made
that he said that he was going to run. But
if they can, if they can tarnish his record and
put more blemishes on his record, it might make it
harder for him to win if if, if, if, if
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in fact he's going to run or win. I'm just
concerned because I think I see more negative media coverage
for on Joe Biden on a daily basis at this point.
Like he did a he was conducting a ceremony and
he called Kamala Harris the president during the ceremony. He
looked at her and said myself and President Harris. So
you know that kind of went viral on social media.
(31:05):
But yeah, Joe Biden called commentary. He did not take
those papers home on purpose. Girl, he forgot. So I'm
just concerned if he reruns, if he's at at this point,
because it's not looking good. And I don't think that
Trump is gonna actually gonna end up being able to
rerun either. And I've said this before. The only way
(31:27):
I really saw Joe Biden winning again is if Trump
want if Trump ran, so I don't I don't know.
You might need another Democratic nominee to make sure that
we can hold onto the president's seat. I think how
King Jeffrey's gonna be the new Golden Boy. I could
see that, um, but I don't know if he would
be willing to leave Congress to become president. Um, he
(31:53):
may feel more effective being in Congress. So I like
to be the president for like a month. You're gonna
get a lot of gray hair, and they're being got
him und there everybody, everybody would get freestyle. Oh my god.
Well you know that why Barack Obama said that Michelle
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would never be a good president because she said her
mouth is a little too reckless. We're both from Chicago.
I understand. Hats off to the first Lady Michelle Obama
baby and President Barback Obama. But yes, we're both from Chicago.
Where we're going, Lauren, because we're almost done. We are.
The last thing you wanted to talk about was Trump's
tax fraud and how he's kind of just saying I'm
(32:34):
not I didn't do it. I didn't do it. We
touched on this, um a little bit throughout the week. Um,
but my thing is this Trump's getting more and more
indictments coming down the pipeline. I really want to wait
and see what Miss Fannie Willis does in Atlanta. That's
what I'm his organization get to find at one point
six million dollars for text fraud. But I'm sure he
(32:55):
hasn't it, because they donated more than two million dollars
towards to stop to steal in the fake campaign. And
I'm talking to y'all who donated, ain't talking to nobody
else with y'all. Well, now you know, he can't use
those funds because he knew nothing about the tax fraud.
Even though he was ahead of the organization, he knew
nothing about it. That's the that's the story, and he's
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sticking to it exactly. That's why Alan Weislerberg is in
rikers for the next hundred days and Trump isn't so
and you got to do a five month bid um,
so he can't use that money. I do said, I
will say that it's interesting that his prize child um
Ivanka's walked away from him. Oh, I've seen that. I've
(33:37):
seen the publication that there's troubled in Paradise, that her
and Jared maybe going through some rough trouble marriage. May
whos that's unfortunate. Well, they did a lot of illegal things,
so I can understand why that would breede, you know,
some difficulties in I promise you we wasn't saying for
a third season. It was someone that's sitting on the
(33:58):
tip of my tongue. Good God, almost jumped off. Yeah yeah,
I'm praying that their marriage is wonderful. Yeah yeah. Comes
see me, Lave and hear what I really got to say. Um. So,
like we said at the top of the show, we're
gonna circle back to end the show with Dr King.
Um flames favorite Doctor King quotes, um, my favorite Doctor
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King quote. So I can go first, or would you
like to go from? Oh, you know, I want you
to close yours out because it was gonna be more detailed.
Mine was always in high school because you know, we
always walking around fear of death, fear death, and being
in high school, you know you know when people would die,
and when you're young, you do don't understand death and
everybody so I'm afraid to I'm afraid to die. I
think it was in sixty three his sixty three memoirs,
(34:41):
Dr King said that once you accept death, you're free.
When that impact hit me during the Ages pandemic of
the eighties, understand that exactly what that meant that you
cannot walk in fear wondering what day, what hour, what
moment was second, because it's going to happen. It really
made me like, good, let me just keep living because
(35:02):
it's inevitable. We're all gonna take that walk. You just
want to live as long as you can until it comes.
I always liked that cord. That was always the one
that made me understand transition of you know, two of
dying because it was always such a feel like, oh,
I ain't rated that I wanted that, I wanted that
like this, I want to do like that. You have
no say so. But that was one of my favorites.
(35:24):
And I love Dr King the love that he put out,
all the screw and everything that he screwed, love and acceptance.
But I look back on life now, loring how I
see how people are. They're becoming a seasoned person. And
I think segregation was not uh I mean was segregation
might have been helped out people. I think we should
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have strived to be better as a people and stay together.
But they wouldn't leave us the funk alone. Let me
just say that, because when we did try to separate,
and what's successful, uh Oklahoma cosa or you know in
different places that y'all get angry and you you win
another route. So but you know, it was kind of
like you damned if you do, damn dead if you don't.
(36:06):
But in memory of Dr King, I love what he
stood for. I love that he brought so much to
the forefront. And I still think the King was the
man too. I still say that they said that Bernard
Bayard Rustin was man one. But Bayard Rustin was fullown
out and gay in the fifties and y'all was not
having no partit of that. Oh my god, where is
(36:26):
the inclusion? Um? Well, part of what you said leads
to my quote, um, one of my favorite quotes um
from Dr King. He gave this speech in Montgomery, Alabama,
March Town. He said, we must come to see that
the end we seek is a society at peace with itself,
a society that can live with its conscience. And I
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think at this day and time, the conscience of our
society is nowhere to be found because you talk about
the hate that we've experienced, you know, just the racism
that's still ongoing that we still see today. You know,
I just saw another you know, young black man who
was a teacher at a poet of his community, was
just murdered by L. A. P. D. So. And when
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we talk about society I'm talking about everything that encompasses that.
So that is you know, police brutality, that is racism
at the highest level. That is all of the disparities
that we get as you know Black people in this
country of why we can't get ahead. So when we
talk about society having a conscience, it doesn't have one
at this point in time, and that's a true problem.
(37:31):
So you just but that could be a great name
for this episode because you just said conscious of the
society and then you talked about a two dollar paint,
a two dollar lifesaver for the hundred thirty for a
hundred and thirty dollars when I'm on a fixed income
and when when after I pay all my necessary bills
every month, i got seventy four dollars left. Mm hmm.
(37:55):
Wealth care is society compases so many things, and especially
at the end of the day, it's us black folks
that are always at the shore end of the stick
when it comes to society. So um, that quote always
stuck with me. But like I said, it's just crazy
to see over fifty years later, Dr King's messages are
still resonating true to this day because these things are
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still happening so I bet you Dr King is up
in head and looking at God and say, man, I
told him they need to knock it off. I told
me we were gonna get to the mountaintop, but they're
going the other way. So here last, we do have
a saying that we're never trying to get anybody to
change your mind. We're simply trying to get you to
use your mind because wife Laime. Let me do that again.
(38:48):
So here at laugh and learned, we have a saying
that we're never trying to get anybody to change your mind.
We're simply trying to get you to use your mind
because wife lame mind is a terrible thing to waste.
And some of y'all to stop playing. Okay, we're in three.
Y'all understand that next year is a major voting year
for the next president. Please pay attention to everything that's
(39:10):
gonna get thrown at you in the next ten eleven months.
I promise you it's gonna be a doozy. That's it.
Thank you for joining us here left, Happy New Year,
Happy happy birthday, and recognition to Dr Martin Luther King,
one of the greats, one of the greatest of the
Black community and I say black, and I know somebody'all
say African American because names changed because it started off
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this and the other. But I'm a black American. I'm
a black African American. But and guess what, I'm an American.
That's you know who else. We gotta wish you have
a birthday to today. I would be remiss if we didn't.
It's Ms Debbie Allen's birthday. So happy birthday. Oh my god,
oh girl, you're gonna get beat up. Happy birthday, I
text her, so I'm okay, but still we gotta say
(39:55):
happy birthday to birthday. It is today, lord. And as
you said that Richard T. Jones from Why Did I
Get Married? Oh wow? That Jill Scott hit the head
with the champagne bottom. He was always on ye yeah,
So happy right days all the capricorns out there. We
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do you know what today? Yesterday is January sixteenth, but
technically today is the national holiday the day that we
celebrate the birth of the one and only father of
the Civil Rights UH Party, Mr Dr mar Luther King.
JI here, Yes, today is marm Luther King Jr. Day. Um,
So we are celebrating and acknowledging Dr King and all
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that he's done for black folks in this country. Um.
And I myself actually went to the Kingdom Day parade
in Los Angeles that goes all the way down Martin
Luther King Boulevard about three miles. So I walked three
whole miles today with plates. Girl, You're gonna be skinny.
I'm trying to recognized that the King, Dr King, I love.
(02:47):
I love Dr King, I loved all the Doctor King
still foe with the exception of the non violence because
if you put your hands on mother father school, that
reminds me. Have you seen the new statue that was
erected in Boston. I can't make that what it is. Lord,
I have seen it, but I keep seeing it from
(03:07):
weird angles, so I'm not sure it looked like. Girl,
I can't make out what it is. It's their arms,
so it's like Coretta's arms and then m Martin Luther
King's arms. Because did you see the photo that was inspiration.
Like basically, he just took their arms out of their
embracing photo. And that's what the scope Okay, because all
the angles, I say, reaches up. I'm like, well, girl,
(03:28):
what is it? Yes, a lot of people were kind
of saying the same thing, like, well what is it?
So people were saying, why don't we just erect the
full picture instead of just the arms? People were confused.
But you know, art is an interpretation of the mirine,
I guess, so it may be interpretation, man, but I
needed a better picture because I couldn't hear what the
hell was going on. I don't know what it was.
(03:49):
And it's in Philadelphia, right, it's in Boston, Okay. It's
like if you look at it from the right angle,
you can like tell that it's Corretta's arms because she
has her ring on her finger and everything. But yeah,
it's very abstract. Its abstract. Art coredit what that ring
with pride? And I just want to say jokingly, I
don't supposed to say it today, but since y'all gonna
hear this to tomorrow, out of respect for King On
(04:11):
on his day, I don't want to say it. But
since y're gonna here to mom, gonna say it. Dr
King's motto was we shall overcome? Or wasn't we shall
come over? Because rumor hasn't He made a lot of
house of it in here. Nothing to do with civil rights.
We all know that Dr King was a bit of
a rolling stone. He personally. I want to say, I
(04:32):
think that j Evergan Hooper was the first personal perpet
because I think he was beating off to listen to
all those King takes, because they say King was putting
it down from state to state, But who couldn't stop
listening to him talk something? He was using them for
black mail? Was he using them for black mail? Or
was it only fans long before y'all do about it? Oh?
I said, yes, I did. You were in rare form tonight? Alright?
(04:53):
I told you, Aaron, let me way too long? You
just sleeing. Well, I'm back to the more sentimental side
of the day. So, um, yes, we do want to
acknowledge Dr King and all that he did for society. Um.
One thing I will say that I think that's so
interesting is that the things that he was advocating for,
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you know, in the fifties and the sixties are still
relevant today, which is kind of crazy to still think
almost fifty years later. It almost feels like we're stuck
in a bit of a time warp um, but it's
we're still advocating for the same things that he was.
So sometimes it makes you look twice and be like,
are we really moving forward? You know? So, and let
me get credit where credit is due. Shout out to
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this country for at least acknowledging this powerful black man
that did that changed the labs of not only African
American black people, but he changed the laves of lots
of people because it was a lot of white and
and other people that were part of the movement that
just wanted fairness in this country and wanted to change.
So shout out to him, all of them for that.
(05:56):
Rest in peace, my Luther King who he was killed
April the fourth at the Lorraine Hotelmphis. Yes it was
in Tennessee. He would have been ninety four. Was his
birthday is actual birthday was yesterday, It's so he would
have been ninety four years old. Shout out to all
the brilliant Capricorns, starting with my son, yeah, and my
(06:16):
nut the King and all. So we get back to
the King because we want to do some King quotes
and some King memories. At the end of the show.
We got way too much other stuff to jump into.
Let's jump into this girl. Last night they had another
Awards show. Oh my god, they did have another Awards show,
and black magic and Black Excellence was definitely prevalent. Um Shirley,
(06:38):
Ralph Jue, Nissy Nash One, Quincy quentincon Brunson one and
Abbott Elementary one too, So a lot of black folks
got a lot of recognition. Um. And I love the
speeches too, didn't you. I love the speeches. I must
tell you, Loren, You're not get on you all the
time about your black but I must tell you that
your girl, Angie, But I'm sorry, our girl, Angie Bassett
(07:00):
set the room last night, and that black count to
me girl when she came out. When she came out
to present the award and I could get the full
owned gown, I was like, okay, miss, and don't don't
play with these. Help us, okay, miss, and you don't
play with And she won as well too. I think
everybody that was dressed in black last night. I'm rooting
for everybody black as in Easter, rate would say, because
(07:21):
they all look fabulous. Janellemunde, j Ellis, every Quinta, everybody
that wore black, everybody's black dressers were lovely. But I
will acknowledge I did like Sherill and her gold dress.
I love the cutter that dress. But NISI nash to me,
somebody took a paintbrush and put that dress off her.
Oh my god, she looked incredible. Yeah, her body was
definitely sickening. It was like it was giving what it
(07:42):
was supposed to. I say, I know Jessica had a
good time last night taking her up out of that gown. Baby,
that's her, her husband hers her. Yes, So I'm glad that.
You know, even though they didn't win as many awards
at the Golden Globes, they got their record mission um
in another you know, in another way. So congratulations. Want
(08:05):
to shout out Viola Davis. Viola Davis is still my
favorite right now, and I'm telling you, but she lost
to my other favorite, which is Kate Blanchet. So I
can't be angry about Hallo. And I love that Kate
acknowledge not only all the ladies that she was up
against in the category, but all the great brilliant actresses
and actors that was in the room, and she was like,
Kate is so Kate is like a British hood. Oh
(08:29):
she's so fun and she cusses and everything. Oh my god,
I love her. But she is a brilliant acts That
lady can do anything, just like I have Viola. They
can do anything. I will say like I and I
could be wrong, but I don't know if Woman King
has won any of the larger you know awards yet.
So I'm waiting on the Oscar. That's all I'm gonna say,
because I needed to get its recognition because it was
(08:51):
a hell of a movie that they did. It was
like for them to get that and hopefully well, and
I know they nominated for a bunch of end Up
Lacey p Awards which is also coming up, and I
want us to be recognized by us, So I hope
they do a big sweep over there. But it's a
whole bunch of Peach people. I want to do a
sweep over there. P Valley. Good God, the writing on
(09:13):
that show was just unbelievable. So we'll see. But who hosted?
Oh Chelsea Handler host Now she did change gowns a
couple of times. She won a couple of cocktail dresses.
I like that. I didn't see her the full own show,
but I went and watched the clip. I thought she
was pretty good. I thought, well, compared to what I
seen last week, she was. She was remarkable. Are you
(09:33):
coming shade? Is that shade that I hear? No, that
was the truth. I didn't actually watch the show either,
so I don't know how Chelsea did, but I just
you know, I watched Chelsea lately, so I always think
that Chelsea's gonna do a good job. She's funny, and
she moved it along. She got it on through and
everybody looked nice. It was pleasant, went off for no hiccups,
So good hats off to the Critics Choice Awards. What's next?
(09:57):
What's the next one coming up? Um? We got the
Grand Means that are coming up, and Double A CP
Image Awards are coming up. You know, it's awards season,
so I think we've got until about March. We probably
got at least I think like four to six more
awards shows that are going to be happening. I'm very
interesting to see who's hostingp Awards. But we'll we'll see
I might even get an inbody who knows Auntie who?
(10:21):
Where we where we're going? Where we're going? We have
to talk about COVID. Oh wait a minute long. We
didn't acknowledge the winner of Best Movie of the Year.
So now it makes me want to see that movie.
Clay had one Best Actress for Todd. I've seen Todd.
It was intense. But that other movie, the Asian movie,
isn't everything everywhere all that once? They wont be Oh yeah,
(10:43):
I want to see it. Yeah, I haven't seen it either.
I'm not as much of a movie watcher as I
should be. Um, I will admit that. So I'm gonna
go back and see to your point, who's actually winning,
because I can go watching those movies. But because I thought,
like the Shape of Water made no sense to me,
you know, they won big, So I'm always a little skeptical,
but I'll go and watch them. Yeah, it makes you
(11:06):
a question like what what what? What? What? What makes
it the best? What you're looking for? Because I was
with you on that Shape of Water. I think I
was a little I had a lovely too, so girl,
and I tell you up that down in the theater,
I don't know what the hell was exactly, so but anyway,
we haven't we haven't talked about COVID. I don't think
(11:27):
this entire season, but now we got to talk about
COVID in this vaccine. So long story short, Maderna is
being very greedy on the money front. They are now
charging people a hundred and thirty dollars to get a vaccine,
but it only costs two dollars and eighty five cents
to make. So the billions of dollars that they're gonna
(11:48):
be making out, well, they've already made billions, let's just
start there for developing the vaccine and getting their patent.
But the amount of farm agreed is just a little
crazy gourd. That takes me back two two thousand and
twenty early when you and I were on the Breakfast
Club shout out to the Breakfast of Charlemagne and DJ
(12:11):
Envy and uh you were talking about big farmer then,
because when they you were talking about a cure for
HIV and AIDS because your other job where you're a
big big or hf AIDS health Care Foundation. If y'all
for dolls who listen, don't know what those acronyms stand
for Lord is still there and still a big wig there.
And you were talking about the money is in the
treatment and not the cure, because I'm like, how are
(12:32):
you going to charge poor people if if y'all don't
want the world And this is just my crazy logic,
how are you going if you want the world to
survive and people to live, why would you charge a
hundred and thirty year dollars, especially to poor people or
people in a financial crisis, for something that costs less
than three dollars to make. It's always about making the
rich people richer and the poor people poor. That's really
(12:54):
what it is at the end of the and it's
so sad, but that's why we have the economy that
we have, in the societal glass that we have, because
people don't want poor people to succeed. That's not the
name of the game. It's let's make the rich people richer.
You know. We see that in government, we see that
in so many aspects of our society in life, and
it's no different when it comes to healthcare. It's the
(13:14):
same thing that is so scary, good God, And is
that just for the vaccine not the boosters that's just
the vaccine. That's just the vaccine. So I don't even
know what the charges because what number boosts we on
right now, I can't remember. I've gotten to and I'm good.
(13:36):
I'm good girl. If it's left up to them, it'd
be six. A year, baby, it'd be five. We'll be
at number five four. Yeah, but I mean I've told
you too. I don't even get flu shots because the
last time I got a flu shot, I was twelve
and I ended up with the stomach virus and I
got the flu. You know, this food was really bad
this year, so I got it. Now, but that's fifteen
(13:58):
years later. I haven't had the flu, So that's a
that's a ridiculous mark up. Though. That is they always
want to talk about ponzi schemes who all doing illegal
stuff that should be illegal, that should honestly be illegal,
And it wouldn't be if we didn't know that it
costs two dollars and thirty eight cent or whatever. But
since we do know, that should be illegal. But this
(14:20):
is their country and they do what they want to do. Yeah,
it's at the end of the day, they monopolize the market.
They have the products, so they can attach whatever price
type that they want to. It's really, it's really sad.
I'm planning to make the real thing. Okay, I'm glad.
I'm glad. Look who I got my two dollars and
thirty eight. Yes, I do where we're going. So we
(14:41):
got to talk about our dear President Joe Biden. He's
in a bit of a situation right now. Let me
tell you something on behalf of Joe Biden. I'm gonna
be very very honest. Girl. He forgot. Let's let's go
with that. Yes, he just forgot. He for god. It's
(15:01):
different with Trump. Trump was hides of ship. Biden's yes, forgot,
you know, the nigga like two hundred and thirty seven
years old. He forgot. I'm gonna go with that at
this point because and I will say, there is grave differences.
We're not comparing Joe Biden to Trump. Yes, you know,
flamemate a joke. But Joe Biden is cooperating with you know, um,
(15:23):
the d O j anytime he found these documents, he
called the National Archives. Trump didn't do that. You know,
Trump's residents had to have FBI come in and get
all the documents back because he didn't want to give
him up. There's grave differences, but it's still bad because
it's giving the Republicans ammunition to of course create a
conspiracy or a narrative that, you know, why was Trump,
(15:45):
you know, being ridiculed and his house was rated. Is
giving them a narrative to push, which is not good.
So and plus there's a special counsel that's also been
elected to investigate this case from Joe Biden, which is
not a good thing either. That's the name of this episode, Errant.
He forgot He just I honestly believe that he really
forgot long. I think he and now thinking an absent
(16:08):
manded way, but I think because he didn't think that
they were significant, and he was going on to be
become the president and his son and he had so
much other stuff going on. It was locked up in
the garage with his corvette, just like he's saying now,
I'm sure he ain't driving that corvette that often. You know,
he fell off the bike. Be damned if he's gonna
be driving, he says, is locked up in his garage
very safely, and that's where some of these documents were found.
(16:30):
So that's what I'm saying it ain't like he pulled
the corvette out on weekends to go driving. You see
what happened on the body, Kale. So the papers are safe,
like on the stairs up the plane um, on the
stairs up the way to the plane um. But also
to uh, the GOP House Oversight chair also can't explain why,
and all of a sudden they want to launch an
investigation into this too, but he can't explain why he's
(16:53):
doing that. So you know, the Republicans got the house
back and are doing a lot of unexplainable things that
really don't make any sense. But speaking speaking of unexplained
about rumor looked like it looked like Kevin McCarthy's want
to keep Santo's own. They ain't hold him because the
GPS want him out and want him off. They don't
want him to have no power, They don't want him
(17:13):
to be afforded any other luxury because he lied. I
listened then, as much as I disagree with so many
things that they have done, I completely agree with them
out as he lied all the way. Well, it just
keeps getting worse because not only did Santos lie like
bringing news today was showing that his firm that he
had was a Ponzi scheme. So it just keeps getting worse,
(17:36):
the revelations that are coming, you know, out behind Santos.
So here's the real question, Lauren. It's his real name,
George Santos. I don't believe nothing now at this point,
I don't either. Because he said he went to UH
school on a volleyball scholarship. He's had to knee replacements,
not with that shape. It turns out he never went
(17:57):
to this school. He There is no volleyball scholarship to
school that he was referring to. They don't even offer
athletic scholarships. It was just really bad. I was watching
the interviews today and people kept laughing at him. I
was like, that's just embarrassing. Why, like, why do you
have to Why are you compelled to lie that much?
But what kind of nerves that he does? This man
have that the whole world? Oh, well, let me go
(18:20):
say that, because you know we got one of them too.
Oh I'm not gonna say his name, but empire. Oh anyway,
Well I didn't say I didn't, I didn't say anything,
So I don't. I don't know what's gonna happen with
Mr Santos, but it just keeps getting worse by the day.
(18:46):
I don't like that that the government not be Republican
on Democrat. This man is a clear blading out now
lying and before you put him in a position to
sit in a boardroom to hear so called secrets that
you made at an ex president and a sitting president
about old paper why would you allow the enemy to
(19:07):
sit in something that's brent that's happening now when you
know that he is lying to me, you see all
of that. You're mad And I ain't defending Trump, but
y'all mad at Trump about some old paperwork. You're mad
abiding about some old paperwork. But you're allowing somebody who
lied to your face. You didn't count this man in
a lie every day, But you're gonna allow him to
sit and listen to the stuff that is happening now.
(19:30):
How you know he won't turn on us and and
put the more America and more America. Sometimes American saints
real government saints real stupid. To me, I said, I
was being nice, glowing day speaking of other things that
the GOP is doing that's putting, you know, our economy
(19:52):
at risk. Let's talk about this whole debt ceiling crisis
that we might be in. I heartened. How can y'all
pay me before we go into recession? So, as of yesterday,
UM House Republicans won't budge on demands for federal spending
cuts in return for agreeing to lift the debt ceiling
(20:13):
and avoid a US payment default, GOP representative James Comer said,
as a federal government moved closer to breaching its statutory
debt limit, lawmakers on Sunday mostly talked past each other.
Republicans renewed demands for cuts, and Democrats insisted that the
government be allowed to honor commitments made by previous Congresses.
(20:33):
So the Republicans, of course, who just gained control of
the House in the US midterm election campaign on the
fact that we were going to be serious about spending cuts.
So the Republicans are basically just like, we need to
cut spending and if we reach a debt ceiling, so
be it. We don't care about the American people or
the economy. Well, when they when they raised a shot
to say last from two dollars to thirty eight sent
(20:55):
to a hundred and thirty dollars, they already said that
without saying it, so oh, um, we'll see what happens. Um.
But this is just it's interesting to me because I
think about all of the American voters that voted for
these Republicans to be in office, and everything that they're
pushing for now is like nothing of what they ran on.
(21:16):
So I wonder how they have to feel as an
American voter that you were swindled. You don't stop talking
about West Virginia after they voted for Trump and he can't.
You know, I told you didn't kick in. You know,
I'm on Baby comedy. Uh what's the name of the show?
The Daily Show. I hope y'all listening, baby, because I'm
telling you I'm ready to sit there say. Um. I
(21:36):
think it's ridiculous. I think it, and I think that
people in charge that the supposed that it signed up
to service and help other people should be ashamed of themselves,
should be damn ashamed of yourself that you have let
money consume everything empower and I just but there is
(22:00):
no shame. That's why Santos is still sitting the way.
There is no shame. There is no shame. There isn't
at the end of the day, it's always about power,
and it's really sad to say that these Republicans just
don't care about the American people and the American people
elected y'all. That's the crazy part. Uh, what are you eating?
(22:22):
Is that cake? We're recording a show. I'm not eating.
But No, it's just really sad though at this point
in time that we're like, I'm just nervous that we're
gonna be on the brink of an economic crisis at
this point, basically with the um the House being Republican led.
(22:45):
I mean, luckily we still have a Democratic Senate, so
a lot of their legislation that they may have passed
in the House is it's gonna die because you know,
the Senate is not gonna pass it. And then we
also still have a democratic president. But it's just very concerning.
It's very concerning. M So people just have become cattle.
People are like numbers. Everything is a number, number number.
(23:08):
I think that's why I'm so against self checkout. No,
I don't like talking to automated stuff. I want to
talk to person. What is self checkout do to you?
I love self check out or I hate stelf checkout
A long Oh my god, I hate self checkout really
because I hate looking at the vengeans and stuff, so
I just still the people. Wait a minute, care what
(23:29):
you're honest about. It's okay, we've lost some things. I
used to sell water out of war. I mean only
want to look up bail peppers on you. I just
want me to bag and slide them over to the side.
Taking somebody's job. Speaking of taking somebody's job and self checkout,
I know this, they're on the topic. I'm just throwing
it out there anyway. So the testlas, I see they
(23:49):
have lowered the price on teslas because they're not performed
or they're not doing as well as they used to.
Because here in California, just this past weekend, a testla's stop.
Remember my joke I always tell about, I don't want
no card with no brains drive me, because if you
get to a cliff and it can't make up with
this man, I don't want to tail with all. Louise
and the car just stopped in the middle of the freeway.
(24:11):
Lauren and Nan car accident. It just decided didn't want
it to stop, so it stopped right in the middle
of traffic doing a freeway and nine cards here the
baby was injured, a lot of people injured. I'm not
and I'm not bashing Tesla. I can't afford one right
now in no way. But I don't want one because
I can drive my own sale and Elon Musk also
lost two hundred billion dollars in a day his Tesla
(24:33):
stock plummeted to so I'm sure that's a contributing factor.
But when I've written in Tesla's it feels like I'm
in a spaceship. I don't feel grounded. I don't like
feeling like that when I'm driving. So I'm not a
fan of Teslas either. But um, yeah, we're going towards
automated cars and robots. I thought Elon Musk made a
tweet about at the other day too, that the future
is going to be robots or something like that. No,
(24:54):
thank you, he already looked a little robody. I want
me a flying car, though. That's gonna be even worse
for air traffic control. You saw that the whole air
uh what's it called, the f d A air traffic
control grid went down. Yeah, I saw that. Thirty and
thirty years they neither updating and dad was a great
segue into us talking about the horrible accident that happened
(25:18):
over and where and the plane crashed and all seventy
people that. Yeah, that's always like my biggest nightmare too,
is just to be on a plane in the plane crash. Now,
I guess nobody really knows what happened, but you know,
pretty there were no survivors. So prayers go out to
all of those people's families who lost their lives. But
(25:39):
it's just it's crazy that a plane just went down
and nobody knows why, and they have the black they
recovered the black box and they have video up. I
know it's very graphic to watch though, you guys, uh,
you're playing right before it went down, and then you
can actually see some of the flames because somebody was
actually recording, and I think they would lad recording it
went out. But that is scary. But it when we
(26:02):
get to King, because one of my favorite quotes is
from King is about death. Remind me to say that
at the end because I might remember that. I don't
remember the first part of this conversation right now anyway,
what happened in the pole, Yeah, that's very tragic. Praying
to all the paper families and people involved. But I'm
asking you, Lauren, I think that I think that was
(26:24):
a dark area. I don't think that they were shot down,
but I think that was a dark area, which is
like no fly, it's very possible. My whole thing is
nobody knows what happened that. That doesn't make sense to
me because you have to get clearance to fly. So
how do you not know what happened to a plane
that it ended up crashing. Maybe the the system went
(26:45):
down over there like it did over here, I guess,
But that's just it's I got a lot of questions,
so the math wasn't mathing for me. And to lose
seventy two people, that's just unacceptable. But well to say
any too, Yeah, seventy two people lost their lives. Jesus, Jesus, Jesu. Money,
(27:07):
money and power don't matter when you're up in the air.
You ain't gotta control over machine. Machines. Machines make mistakes
just like people. Yeah, people can apologize if your machine
snatch your arm off, it's just snatched off. M And
continuing with that, the war in Ukraine. You're still sending
prayers over to Ukraine. Um, they did an air mischel
strike today and they killed I believe, over forty civilians
(27:29):
at once. Um. They were saying that this is one
of the more deadliest civilian attacks in Ukraine. UM. Putin,
I don't I don't know what I have to say
about him. He's his own countrymen have turned on him.
There's people that were fleeing Russia because they didn't want
to fight a pointless war just to you know, fuel
his ego, and people keep dying unnecessarily. But I will
(27:52):
say everybody didn't know, not everybody. Nobody thought that Ukraine
was gonna win. They're winning, So it's very tragic this
is happening right now. And like I said, we're set
in press to Ukraine. But they're winning and Putin is losing.
That's because Zelinsky is a beast baby. I likes me.
Some zelinscular tall, little, but it's tall self. I like me.
(28:12):
He tall to look he about five five, but stall
small in stature and mighty in his heart. He got
a he does. He has the heart of a lion
because he's not he he fights for his country. I
can't say that about some leaders that we have had
had in the bunkers. So sure are some leaders that
(28:32):
have done smilar things that Putin did. But Iraq o
prayers to Irene, I mean to a Ukraine. I hope
that that war is done with soon. So many people
lost their lives and the situation had to leave that
country and start over either. And I think that's what
really bothers me when it's older people and you get this,
(28:54):
you displaced older people because as a seasoned person myself,
when you're at your home, you and your compass on,
you can you know, you can feel your way through
the dark, whether you're old or you know, incapacitated or whatever.
But they have removed a lot of those people out
of their comfort zones. That's got to be disheartening. That's
got to be messed up. Yeah, and to be displaced too.
To your point, it's its memories, you know, childhood. It's
(29:17):
just it's a lot, you know, it's it's I've read
somebody that Putin but they they they challenging his his
mental stability. I want to see it correctly. I want
to say something else, but I'm trying to be nice. Well,
I think they tried to well. I think he just
had an election a few years ago and it was
for him to be president for front of the thirteen
(29:38):
years or something like that. So I don't know. I
don't want to put anything negative out there, but I'm
gonna just say somebody needs to do something. I know
he's heavily guarded, but he's just he's problematic. He's very
problematic for the country. Good old young woman like to
turn him out, then he won't have time to be
so angry. Well, you know, he was a part of
(29:59):
the whole so A union regime, so he's very much
a dictator, so dangerous, it's very dangerous. He needs him.
A young woman should turn him out. Uh uh. With
the paperwork, with putting back to I mean back with Biden. Lord,
I think it's just I think it's just they're trying
to throw ashes on Biden's fire because nobody ain't doing
(30:22):
a great job. But he's doing a pretty decent job.
He coming through with some promises that he said he
was going to do, and I think they're trying to
make discourage him because next year, if he hasn't made
that he said that he was going to run. But
if they can, if they can tarnish his record and
put more blemishes on his record, it might make it
harder for him to win if if, if, if, if
(30:43):
in fact he's going to run or win. I'm just
concerned because I think I see more negative media coverage
for on Joe Biden on a daily basis at this point.
Like he did a he was conducting a ceremony and
he called Kamala Harris the president during the ceremony. He
looked at her and said myself and President Harris. So
you know that kind of went viral on social media.
(31:05):
But yeah, Joe Biden called commentary. He did not take
those papers home on purpose. Girl, he forgot. So I'm
just concerned if he reruns, if he's at at this point,
because it's not looking good. And I don't think that
Trump is gonna actually gonna end up being able to
rerun either. And I've said this before. The only way
(31:27):
I really saw Joe Biden winning again is if Trump
want if Trump ran, so I don't I don't know.
You might need another Democratic nominee to make sure that
we can hold onto the president's seat. I think how
King Jeffrey's gonna be the new Golden Boy. I could
see that, um, but I don't know if he would
be willing to leave Congress to become president. Um, he
(31:53):
may feel more effective being in Congress. So I like
to be the president for like a month. You're gonna
get a lot of gray hair, and they're being got
him und there everybody, everybody would get freestyle. Oh my god.
Well you know that why Barack Obama said that Michelle
(32:13):
would never be a good president because she said her
mouth is a little too reckless. We're both from Chicago.
I understand. Hats off to the first Lady Michelle Obama
baby and President Barback Obama. But yes, we're both from Chicago.
Where we're going, Lauren, because we're almost done. We are.
The last thing you wanted to talk about was Trump's
tax fraud and how he's kind of just saying I'm
(32:34):
not I didn't do it. I didn't do it. We
touched on this, um a little bit throughout the week. Um,
but my thing is this Trump's getting more and more
indictments coming down the pipeline. I really want to wait
and see what Miss Fannie Willis does in Atlanta. That's
what I'm his organization get to find at one point
six million dollars for text fraud. But I'm sure he
(32:55):
hasn't it, because they donated more than two million dollars
towards to stop to steal in the fake campaign. And
I'm talking to y'all who donated, ain't talking to nobody
else with y'all. Well, now you know, he can't use
those funds because he knew nothing about the tax fraud.
Even though he was ahead of the organization, he knew
nothing about it. That's the that's the story, and he's
(33:15):
sticking to it exactly. That's why Alan Weislerberg is in
rikers for the next hundred days and Trump isn't so
and you got to do a five month bid um,
so he can't use that money. I do said, I
will say that it's interesting that his prize child um
Ivanka's walked away from him. Oh, I've seen that. I've
(33:37):
seen the publication that there's troubled in Paradise, that her
and Jared maybe going through some rough trouble marriage. May
whos that's unfortunate. Well, they did a lot of illegal things,
so I can understand why that would breede, you know,
some difficulties in I promise you we wasn't saying for
a third season. It was someone that's sitting on the
(33:58):
tip of my tongue. Good God, almost jumped off. Yeah yeah,
I'm praying that their marriage is wonderful. Yeah yeah. Comes
see me, Lave and hear what I really got to say. Um. So,
like we said at the top of the show, we're
gonna circle back to end the show with Dr King.
Um flames favorite Doctor King quotes, um, my favorite Doctor
(34:19):
King quote. So I can go first, or would you
like to go from? Oh, you know, I want you
to close yours out because it was gonna be more detailed.
Mine was always in high school because you know, we
always walking around fear of death, fear death, and being
in high school, you know you know when people would die,
and when you're young, you do don't understand death and
everybody so I'm afraid to I'm afraid to die. I
think it was in sixty three his sixty three memoirs,
(34:41):
Dr King said that once you accept death, you're free.
When that impact hit me during the Ages pandemic of
the eighties, understand that exactly what that meant that you
cannot walk in fear wondering what day, what hour, what
moment was second, because it's going to happen. It really
made me like, good, let me just keep living because
(35:02):
it's inevitable. We're all gonna take that walk. You just
want to live as long as you can until it comes.
I always liked that cord. That was always the one
that made me understand transition of you know, two of
dying because it was always such a feel like, oh,
I ain't rated that I wanted that, I wanted that
like this, I want to do like that. You have
no say so. But that was one of my favorites.
(35:24):
And I love Dr King the love that he put out,
all the screw and everything that he screwed, love and acceptance.
But I look back on life now, loring how I
see how people are. They're becoming a seasoned person. And
I think segregation was not uh I mean was segregation
might have been helped out people. I think we should
(35:44):
have strived to be better as a people and stay together.
But they wouldn't leave us the funk alone. Let me
just say that, because when we did try to separate,
and what's successful, uh Oklahoma cosa or you know in
different places that y'all get angry and you you win
another route. So but you know, it was kind of
like you damned if you do, damn dead if you don't.
(36:06):
But in memory of Dr King, I love what he
stood for. I love that he brought so much to
the forefront. And I still think the King was the
man too. I still say that they said that Bernard
Bayard Rustin was man one. But Bayard Rustin was fullown
out and gay in the fifties and y'all was not
having no partit of that. Oh my god, where is
(36:26):
the inclusion? Um? Well, part of what you said leads
to my quote, um, one of my favorite quotes um
from Dr King. He gave this speech in Montgomery, Alabama,
March Town. He said, we must come to see that
the end we seek is a society at peace with itself,
a society that can live with its conscience. And I
(36:49):
think at this day and time, the conscience of our
society is nowhere to be found because you talk about
the hate that we've experienced, you know, just the racism
that's still ongoing that we still see today. You know,
I just saw another you know, young black man who
was a teacher at a poet of his community, was
just murdered by L. A. P. D. So. And when
(37:10):
we talk about society I'm talking about everything that encompasses that.
So that is you know, police brutality, that is racism
at the highest level. That is all of the disparities
that we get as you know Black people in this
country of why we can't get ahead. So when we
talk about society having a conscience, it doesn't have one
at this point in time, and that's a true problem.
(37:31):
So you just but that could be a great name
for this episode because you just said conscious of the
society and then you talked about a two dollar paint,
a two dollar lifesaver for the hundred thirty for a
hundred and thirty dollars when I'm on a fixed income
and when when after I pay all my necessary bills
every month, i got seventy four dollars left. Mm hmm.
(37:55):
Wealth care is society compases so many things, and especially
at the end of the day, it's us black folks
that are always at the shore end of the stick
when it comes to society. So um, that quote always
stuck with me. But like I said, it's just crazy
to see over fifty years later, Dr King's messages are
still resonating true to this day because these things are
(38:16):
still happening so I bet you Dr King is up
in head and looking at God and say, man, I
told him they need to knock it off. I told
me we were gonna get to the mountaintop, but they're
going the other way. So here last, we do have
a saying that we're never trying to get anybody to
change your mind. We're simply trying to get you to
use your mind because wife Laime. Let me do that again.
(38:48):
So here at laugh and learned, we have a saying
that we're never trying to get anybody to change your mind.
We're simply trying to get you to use your mind
because wife lame mind is a terrible thing to waste.
And some of y'all to stop playing. Okay, we're in three.
Y'all understand that next year is a major voting year
for the next president. Please pay attention to everything that's
(39:10):
gonna get thrown at you in the next ten eleven months.
I promise you it's gonna be a doozy. That's it.
Thank you for joining us here left, Happy New Year,
Happy happy birthday, and recognition to Dr Martin Luther King,
one of the greats, one of the greatest of the
Black community and I say black, and I know somebody'all
say African American because names changed because it started off
(39:33):
this and the other. But I'm a black American. I'm
a black African American. But and guess what, I'm an American.
That's you know who else. We gotta wish you have
a birthday to today. I would be remiss if we didn't.
It's Ms Debbie Allen's birthday. So happy birthday. Oh my god,
oh girl, you're gonna get beat up. Happy birthday, I
text her, so I'm okay, but still we gotta say
(39:55):
happy birthday to birthday. It is today, lord. And as
you said that Richard T. Jones from Why Did I
Get Married? Oh wow? That Jill Scott hit the head
with the champagne bottom. He was always on ye yeah,
So happy right days all the capricorns out there. We
love y'all, well, we do love capricorns. Okay, thank you
(40:16):
guys for joining us. Thank you Aaron, thank you Flamous.
Please listen to us on my Heart under the Black
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(40:39):
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