November 13, 2025 • 50 mins
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, comedian Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford blend humor with heartfelt commentary as they tackle a wide range of topics—from personal experiences on tour to the current political climate. The conversation dives into the realities of the government shutdown, healthcare challenges, and the ongoing struggles faced by veterans and military families.
Flame and Bobbi reflect on the importance of strong presidential leadership in honoring service members, the continued fight for marriage equality, and the courage of global figures like President Zelensky. With wit and wisdom, they explore how laughter can coexist with serious social reflection, ultimately emphasizing the need for empathy, unity, and community support during uncertain times.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're Flame, we.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Say she if you watch your coffee time the baby
you know the name Flame, my bro also known as
my ro Flame. Come in with last and come in
with you love loundes. Baby, you better catch it when
you can't drop a knowledge.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
From fatherhood to politics.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Shouting now comics, just paying homage.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
What's up? Tips?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know she raised shot towns on speaking to the
grown a second, We're gonna laugh, cut.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Him and kicking, and at the end we leave it
with is a lifted spirits.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But you want to revisit so your first.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Second listen, young folks say it's list old.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Folks that we dig.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Hey, no fish, do what you do?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Y no this do what you do?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Hain't no kiss? Do what I do? No?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe, and welcome
to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn. Where our
produced have been in the background cutting up. We just
hold this whole conversation. We've been waiting a tape. I'm
just gonna put it on out there since he'll want
to tape us.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
He's having our exact conversation that we're gonna be ova.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
But we are two weeks out and we are glad
to be back because I was on the road. It
was definitely my faults, and it was it was worth
it because I was on the road working. I did
twenty seven seas with Tiffany Haddish and Barbara Carlisle on
the Funny and Fear of Its tours. And it's over,
and I'm happy, and let's go. Let's go by, because
let's go.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know she's got she's got another one next year,
though I hope you're on that one because you always
have a great fun with her.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Did you miss me too?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I always miss you, and you don't miss me. I'm
too much for you.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Atty girl, at your at your average, I think, to
your lists, too much for everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So the tourist goods, the tour is over. Your party
was successful.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
The party was successful. I thank god for event Bright
for prior ticket sales, because then I wouldn't have to
take her hit. So I prefer event Bright because then
I know, even if you can't come, I got your moolah.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It's true. And then you know people like me can.
If they can't come, they could still they can still
sponsor a ticket. You can give it to somebody else
that that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Have it, or I can put the money in my purse.
Either way, Well, Bobby Clifford, In the last two weeks
that we have had off, it has been quite eventful
in this country, from a governor from a government shut down,
to the planes being delayed, to the FAA landoff workers,
to so many federal workers being furloughed or let go,
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to just to just so many things, all all the
while the Epstein file still have not been released. Oh
but there is a silver lining inside of the cloud.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And we'll get to it. But we also have no
more Prince Andrew either now we have Andrew Mountbatten windsor he.
I guess Charles Mice liked the name that that Harry
and Meghan picked for themselves, because he just gave it
to his brother as well. Unless that's the outcast name.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well, Prince Andrew was allegedly or well, was found guilty
right of messener.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
No, No, the girl said he did. He said he
never did, and but the people went wild, you know,
the people over there were no joke, so he stripped him.
I have to say, in some ways I feel a
certain way because you're born with a title. Do you
know what I mean, like, how do you take the
title away? And he might not get any perks take
that away, but how do you take It's like taking
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your last name. I just don't know how you do it.
But anyway, he did and put him out of the house,
and I think William's moving into his house. And now
Sarah's got nowhere to live because even though they were divorced,
Sarah and Andrew they lived on the same property. Because
you know those properties, like fifteen thousand square feet. She
lived in her little section, he lived in his little section.
It was a whole Michiga. Since since you've been gone,
since you've been gone, well, I.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Can't say that I feel bad for either of them.
If he did invests around with an underaged girl, he
deserved to have his haynd spank and Fergie the man
telling all the secrets. So yeah, right he was.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
They was very forgiving of her. No, you are right
if he was found guilty, but I don't think. I
don't know if there's any proof, like you know, all
of this, like, let's put out this stuff. I don't
know why they're holding they're holding on I'm I can't
say her name correctly. It's the Arizona congress girl. I've
been calling her a congress lady. I've been calling it
Adalita because I know that's her first name. But I'm
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having trouble with the jay. I don't know, but somehow
I would say the silenter. It makes a difference, it
makes a different vowel. I'm very embarrassed to say. I
can't say. I sound very waspy when I try to
say her last name.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But she was.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
She was finally sworn in, and supposedly next week, Johnson
is saying they're going to have the vote on it.
I don't understand. I think there's more. It makes it
more tantalizing, and people think there's more in it than
probably what's actually in it. I don't understand. Why just
just put the crap out and let's move on. I'm
so sick of saying the word Epstein.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, here's the killing hard Bobby. At this point, I
don't even think if they have a video of him, him,
and when I say him, we're talking about the command
in chief having sex with a kid is going to
change the mind of his follows because they are their
brainwashed and they're cut up with it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So I don't. I truly believe that he didn't. He
didn't for this particular thing. He didn't have anything to
do with it. Supposedly, Glenn Maxwell came out this is
before she she actually went into jail and whatnot, and
said that he doesn't have there's nothing of him in
any of these files.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
She's alive.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Durst said, supposedly that he's not in the And I
think what his people with the MAGA people are so
off the wall about. It's not about him, like they're
thinking anything is going to have President Trump in it,
but they think they were huge power players that are
in there, and they need to be exposed and we
need to either stop hold them accountable, but stop buying
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their products. Stop, you know, like do something. I think
that's what they're upset.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Bobby, Bobby, you're so white.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Oh my god, I have I'm super super white.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Let me change some Bobby. If Trump was Trump was
not in that and other people was in that, Trump
would release them on his own. Mama, he would have
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And you know why. You know why I'm saying that
because it's still self preservation. These are his friends that
back him, that pay his legal bills, that you know
that the wine in his pockets that buy all his
stupid products.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
But Bobby, all he had to do was they would
have got found guilty and then he would have quit.
He would have pardoned them that everybody else. So then
you know, that's what I'm saying. If it wasn't detrimental
to him, it would have been released, no matter whether
they would have been embarrassed or not. He was just
going to party him like he just partied Rulely Giuliani
and so many others. Meadows, sorry for the over for
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the challenging, the overturned, I mean the election of twenty twenty. Yeah,
it's bs. He would have he would have released his people.
So that's why I don't believe it. Bobby. I believe
he's all up in there.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I believe I believe that. I understand what you're saying.
But that's still the people us, you and I. We're
not going to pardon them. I'm not going to buy
if it's Chick fil A, And even though you know
I love me some Chick fil A, I'm not buying
Chick fil A ever again. I will never as much
as that your chicken is delicious and melts in your
mouth and probably is loaded with them with every chemical
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in the world. I'm not buying it again. They don't
want those people want their pockets to be lined and
they want to be super rich. I don't think it's
as much about them going to jails of what they
have to lose, but they If they just release the stuff,
you and I wouldn't even be having this conversation. I'm
so sick of talking about it, like I can't even
tell you it's just gone on for twenty years. This
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is like bullshit.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I ain't sick of talking about it. I want it out,
I want to see it. I want to be nosy,
I want it exposed. I want to be all up
in it.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
But I don't want to move on.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
But nevertheless, the distractions of those stay files has the
country in a tizzy. We have been in a ridiculous
government shut down for forty days forty three well is
it forty three forty three? But I mean that's ending.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So we had eight Democrats that from the Senate side
that moved over. It went to the House tonight. Six
Democrats from the House moved over. Two Republicans I believed
did not vote for it, and I think he could
only lose two.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well his song Bobby Clifford, me and Johnson. Everybody. Sorry,
here's the thing, why Democrats did you even go and
do this and fight with this if you were going
to come see, I don't understand the weakness of the
party that Yes, people are suffering, Yes, people are losing
their jobs. Yes, but if you don't stand ten toes
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down and play hudball with them, they win. What they
want is this philibus to remove, because if the philibuster
is out of the way, they are pretty much able
to do whatever the hell they want to do and
they can't take you back. But Bobby, I.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Don't vera and vice versa.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
If it's the weakness, it's the weakness of the Democratic
Party that people are losing faith in. Were really blew
my mind by because you could not have told me
that we were going to conceive after the last Tuesday
blue wave. We had a blue wave Tuesday, all these
differencyas switched to blue and even red states and red
councils because people are sick of it. So that was
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if that's indicative of what we were going to be
forced to, I mean, facing commit terms go Democrats go America.
But then for you democratic people who are in a
position of power, you folded like a goddamn card table.
It just looks it makes us and you have to
ask why.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think it's I think multiple things are happening. First off,
we you and I have spoken busts in the beginning.
We didn't want the government to shut down to begin with.
We would rather than work on it. Neither one of
us believed that anything was going to happen because we
had nothing to hold over them. Nothing was going to happen.
Nothing good was going to come from the shutdown to
begin with. Okay, so we got on board. We were
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good party people. We got on board. We waited the
forty three days people went without. We saw military people
in food lines, you know, everything that's disgraceful that you
can possibly say, we watched it. And then for them
now to say, and the people who that have all
stepped over are not running in twenty twenty six, so
they're very clever for them now to say that, well,
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nothing was going to come. Trump was never going to
sign off. This was it was never going to happen.
But it wasn't going to happen from the beginning, So
why would you shut down the government? It was fruitless
to shut down the government. So now they have it's
like talking to my ex husband about anything that was
important back in the day. We have a promise of
a potential discussion next month, which you know is never
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going to happen because it never happened with him either.
I mean, it's just ridiculous. And on the House side,
they're saying they're never going to vote for it. And
even if the Senate and the House voted for it,
Trump is never going to sign off on the ACA subsidies.
It's not going to happen. So what they're saying is, oh, well,
we can bring this up though again in January. Well,
(12:04):
everybody's everybody, including me. I get my healthcare right now
through ACA because I'm unemployed. My premium is going to
go from three hundred and fifty dollars a month to
seven hundred dollars a month. So everybody's all of our
premiums already. And by the way, just to be completely transparent,
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everybody's healthcare is going up, not just the ACA, everybody.
That's a whole other thing. Our healthcare system for insurance
is so broken the health care insurance companies keep making
more and more. They want the hospitals to keep their
costs down as much as they possibly can. And the
only saying are the stakeholders are getting richer, We're not
getting anything more on our end. So that's what they
(12:46):
actually need to fix and debate on. But in January,
when the day comes that we need to have this,
this another cr signed off, they're going to talk about it,
then I don't.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It's a smoking mirrors. It's all bullshit because they haven't
come through with any of the other problemises except for
what they want to do with their Project twenty twenty five.
But anything that's going to be helping the American people,
they haven't come through with it. It's all bullshit. And
I'm gonna tell you, Bobby Do, some of these Democrats
really have shown their hand. Because who surprised me a
lot was Fetterman. When Fetterman conceded after he had the
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strokes and all the whatever the whoop, the deupes he had,
the Democrats prayed for him, We all was looking out
for them. He came back. We thought it was like
an American story. And then for you to go flip
comes some where people are hungry. But you knew what
they you all were facing, what we were facing when
you decided to agree to this guy. Damn shut down.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
But for him from the beginning, let I'm glad you
were saying Fetterman. I'm not mad if I'm not mad
at Fetterman. And I'll tell you why. From the beginning,
he wasn't shutting it down. He never signed off on
the shutdown. He said, I am paid to be in
working for my people. That's what I'm paid to do.
He said, it's up to they're in power now. They
have the right to do whatever they're going to do,
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whether it hurts the people or not, and it's up
to our side to sit and negotiate and have conversations
with them. So he never he didn't flip. He said
from the beginning, he remember there were two of them.
There was an independent in him. He said, I am
not down with with the with the government shut down.
His fear was it was going to give Trump more power,
because if if the government shuts down and certain things
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have to happen the way that our constitution is, it
falls back on the on the executive branch to make
all the decisions, and he was so afraid that Trump
was going to strip everything. He felt that Congress was
just seeding too much power to the executive branch and
he wasn't down for it from the beginning. These other
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ones that shocked this, Catherine Cortes Mastro from Nevada, Dick
Durbin from Illinois, Maggie Hassan from the Hampshire. I'm just
I'm just shocked him came from Virginia. All these other
ones that flipped. I don't know. We were given a
num of the house. There are six. I don't know
who they actually are though them, I especially Jean Shaheen,
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like I'm shocked. She came right out and said, oh no,
you know we're not We're gonna stand strong. We're not
giving up where this sat in the other and then
she flips, what the hell did you just sign on
for the for the shutdown?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
It makes no sense, Bobby, Let me chase someone. When
they get the flipping like that, when they adamitated about it,
sometimes I think that they have been threatened or would
have you op decima with Dig Dervin from Illinois because
I'm from Illinois, so I've been known about Dig Dervin
a lot of time. He has always been on the
tee to Tarter. He is always wishy washy, so they
don't even surprise me about him.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I don't know anything about him. I just know here.
I was a little surprised. I think what's happening is well,
first of all, their constituents are are screaming, you know,
and because they are going with some money and they're
going without whatever and they can't take it. I think
they thought something would happen by now, but it's not
going to happen. I think that the GOP would have
been because they're blaming the whole shutdown on the Dems. Anyway,
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they would have been thrilled if people couldn't go with
with you know, in two weeks we have Thanksgiving and
people couldn't travel, they would have loved it. Would all
went on and jumped on us. All I can say
is if we could package u this correctly, if the
Democrats can package this correctly, and if it doesn't get
signed off in January, say listen, look in good faith,
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we flipped it and gave them what they wanted. And
they're still holding you guys. You know, they're still letting
letting your premiums go up, and they're still they're going
to hold the snap benefits because I don't think in
January it's going to be any different.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You said, they're like like they care even if they
don't do it. The Republicans are not going to care
now going to care. But but what the people are
gonna do? Vote?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Vote because we gotta we got another year to vote. Then,
I mean, we just did it. We did We did
just show them something. So I mean, well, we're gonna
have to say. I don't know, We're going to have
to we have to figure it out to go because
this is crazy. I'm happy to see that the air
travel will get better because I know from your your
flights got canceled, your initial you had to travel, you
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had to travel to get to get flights, so you know,
I want to see that start to open up because
we had you know, they were canceling flights at a percentage.
I think we were up to eight percent supposedly by
by Thanksgiving, and I hope that that all goes away
and we have people back to work.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Me too, Oh, you know what I do want to
talk about Dick Cheney died.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
He did die, and do you know they were playing
they were playing his lost on I believe it was CNN,
his lost message to the people, and it was a
couple of years ago. I think it was twenty twenty
two or twenty twenty three. How dangerous he was saying,
Trump was, if there's anything that we can possibly do,
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please keep him out. And I thought, isn't that interesting?
You know, I forgured he would have been a little
bit more on his side, but absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah. Interesting, Well, you know, Bobby, I think the only
reason that rest in peace. They changed. But the only
reason he said that to try to give a warning
was because he knew that his days was numbered. So
because had he been in health, this is my belief
from what from his history, his track record, Girl, he
would have been right over there with him, he would
have he would have been there with I can't.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Believe he made it to eighty four. Remember he had
that massive heart attackle he was he was like a savage.
He kept he kept going and working and and meanwhile
having his head his heart was all shredded. So he
was he was quite He was quite an interesting fellow,
didn't he shot someone they asked.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yes, according to his track record, his heart was shredded
long before it got shredded, probably.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And you know who else died?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Diane Ladd, Diane Ladder, and so did some actress today yesterday.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't recognized her. Isn't it
awful that i'd been? I had her on and then
I'm like, I don't know any of the stuff she did.
She was in some real old, old old timy movies.
But I didn't, I didn't recognize her. But Darian Lett
had had a nice life. I think she had a
stroke like five or six years ago, still working right
up to the end. Some of these people, that's gonna
be you.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, let me.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Give you, yeah, let me give you one more, one
more joke before you close the lid.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
And look and right on and look, sit my big
ass on the box to be gone. Bobby Air Travel
was Barberia. They canceled our flight from Alabama, so we
had to drive from Alabama to advantage. I think it's
the smaller hooks that were getting canceled first, but because
the major hooves were getting some of the flights out.
But they you really do have to experience it for yourself,
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because we were warned that the Atlanta Hartsfield Airport it
took four hours just to get through security. It took
us six minutes. You will be Yeah, they had show
videos of people in line for hours and Barbiera lines.
But you have to get there yourself and experience it
because it's not what you think. A lot of this
stuff is AI and a lot of this stuff I
think it's pushed out here to agitate the American people
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and instigate a lot of bullshit. So just some things
you have to go through for yourself or take the
word of somebody that you trust, not necessarily the media,
because the media has really changed to they are saying
exactly what they want them to say, or they are
disappearing off of the airwaves.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
It is it's flick bait. I think I feel that anyway.
I think, you know, because sometimes you'll have somebody say, oh,
watch out for so and so they're this or they're that,
and you got to experience it yourself, maybe to them,
and then you go and meet them and they're completely lovely.
You know, you can have that in the back of
your head. But I think in life you're going to
experience everything for yourself.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You com' bey, this is about to be crazy. Not
a crazy conspiracy, but this is my conspiracy, and I
want you to listen to it. I want you to
hear me and hear me well. So if if the
government should down ends and you know, whatever they're trying
to do now they're saying that we may go to
be going to war with Venezuela, you got to understand
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that in the time of a war in America. In America,
the sitting president does not have to be removed. They
do not have an election because he continues to be
the president. They can drag this war on for who
knows how long if we get into a war, whether
we win or not, because we would know we're not
going boots on the ground over there. And they're putting
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in the media what they wanted to be because in
doing a doing a time of war, the sitting president
remains the president. Remember how excited he got about two
months ago when he acts like he had just found
that out, because he ain't just found that out. I'm
telling you guys right now, the mid terms are very important,
but I think they're going to do it by any
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means necessary. They're going to try to get dismissed the
mid terms by going into war, so they're wanting to
be no election.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I don't know. I think that Venezuela certainly getting they've
had it with us, they're certainly getting ready. I mean,
the UK is no longer going to give us, going
to give us intel because they think us bombing all
the boats over in the Caribbean and down in that
area because of drugs. But we don't have really any
real documentation or information. We don't have hide facts for
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sure on everything. They're like they don't want to be
involved in it. So I don't know. I mean, we're
ostracizing a lot of people. I mean, the UK is
they're like our best buddies if we can't count on
them for intel. So I don't know if he'd hate
to be would he like to be king for the
rest of his life? He would. But I also think
a lot of that's distraction talk because I think that
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he likes to talk about that, so we talk about it,
and then we're not paying attention to all the other stuff,
like the Epstein files, like the fact that he's getting
himself in trouble. You know how sleepy Joe. He didn't
get in because he didn't reach out to the people
and he kept saying, Oh, we're in a good government.
I mean a good economy because we were in the
best economy of the world. But he wasn't listening to
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the people. What people are starting to complain and he's like,
this is the best economy. What are they talking about?
And I'm thinking, be careful. Donald's that's what got the
other one in trouble. So you better. You know you're
supposed to be relatable, you better keep being relatable. He's
talking about giving out rebate checks.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
He has never been relatable, and statistically they did a thing.
It's impossible for him to give everybody two thousand dollars,
so it's all bullshit.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Bobby twice as much as he brought in. He's got
he wants, and it's not going to be everybody. He's
not going to give it to the wealthy people, so
he's not going to give it. Somebody threw out an
amount of anybody that makes over one hundred thousand dollars,
so that is the real lower people. But it is
even if he gives it to that amount of people,
it's one hundred and eighty billion, according to CNN Reporting
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and News Nation than what he's collected, Like he keeps
promising things that we're only going to be Remember he
was going to bring the deficit down.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Because all he has to do. It would set out
loud two or three times, and his base believes it.
And so those ignorant people who would take the time
to understand what it is.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I mean, he's talking, or at least somebody on his
team is talking about fifty year mortgages so the young
people can buy buy a house. That doesn't even make
any sense. Fifty you'd have to buy a house in
your twenties. They're not going to have the kind of money.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And who wants to pay for a house for fifty
damn years?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, you would be paying in theory you would be
paying probably well you want to pay it in thirty years,
so that you have twenty years to say for retirement.
You'd be paying it almost your whole life, although you
would be paying probably a rent or something. But it
doesn't make to make it more, how about fix the
economy stupid as the expression goes, And then if that
makes it a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
The economy is toasted, and we got too many people
out here that supposed to represent the Democratic Party saying
the wrong things and putting out the information that got
people misgadded, which is why we're partially in this situation
that we are in. Bobby Clifford, it it really is
saying it really really is said on a lighter note.
On a lighter note, I want to say thank you
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to all the service men and women of this country
who have served in the country, in the military, in
any branch of the military, because yesterday was Veterans Day,
and I love that. So many establishments, so many restaurants
and everything acknowledged veterans, give them free food, so many
different things. So I just want to say thank you
to all the vets for your service. You know, it's
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not a job that I ever want to I never
wanted to be in the military. I never wanted to
serve in that way. But thank God that there are
people that want to do it. Hopefully we will continuously
get people that want to do it, because when what
this country has showed us, they don't really look out
good for their veterans, so it deters a lot of
people from wanting to do that. Even though it's a
steady job. And in mere fact that doing this government
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shut down, so many veterans and their families, or so
many people in the military and their families were standing
in soup kitchen lines and brand liance just to get
food because they were not getting paid. That is the
deterren that will make people not join the military. So
when we at a time of crisis and or war,
we won't have what we need because we already understand
that y'all ain't gonna fight for us, while the hell
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we're gonna fight for y'all. So yeah, I just don't
think that people value what the military is. Like Like
when we were younger, Bobby, it was like, oh, you're
in the Army, you're in the Marines, you're in the
Native It was a career, yeah, and it was positive.
It was looked at positive that you're gonna make something
of yourself. You're going to be American, you know, show
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your your what is the word I'm looking for, Bob,
and that's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
And you go benefits. You got the VA loan, you
could go to school. Then you know for free or
at a discount, depending you could buy a house because
you got you got a lower interest rate. You did time,
but you got something out of it. I sent you
a link. Did you see. President Obama went on the
Freedom flight. Freedom flights are when they bring veterans from
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World War Two, although I don't think there are any
anymore because they be in their in the late nineties
Korea and Vietnam. And they put him on a flight.
They bring them to Washington, They show them all of
the monuments, explain how they came, what they are, blah
blah blah, and President Obama went on and that typical president. Hello, folks,
you know I want to thank you. One guy says
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he was about ninety Holy shit, and then he said,
this mold man with his mouth gaping open. He couldn't
believe it. And another guy goes, no way, it was.
It was so hot warming. He touched all of them,
and he explained that when you're when you are president,
they give you this box of and they go with you.
They are these coins, coins of appreciation for the military,
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and you can give them out, and that he decided
that that's what he wanted to do. One man said,
the only president I ever got to meet was Gerald Ford.
Well Obama burst out laugh, and he says, well, can
you imagine that now? Looking now, it's me. One guy
said you handsome fella to President Obama and he saluted them,
and that tickled President Obama. It was cute. They were
so pleased and touched.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
That shows what that shows. It's what leaders.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I suppose you just said it, not to.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Put people down, not to discredit. You know, it might
they not might have been in service in the last five, ten,
twenty years, but they did serve, yes, and they served
and you did not. But you tear everybody down. That
blows me about the sitting president that you know, if
he would have done something like that, he would have
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turned it around, so say, you see what I did
for you guys. It just anything to take you.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
He would have charged her for the coins, right, yeah,
it would. It's just different personalities. Somebody else I could
see doing this, although you know he's just doing the
radiation is Joe Biden. I was a little shocked. I said, God,
they would have been a dynamic duo that it'll call
actually the floor. I would have loved have seeing Clinton, Bush,
Biden and Obama do it. The other one would never
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It's not his personality. They're in reverence of the service
that people did. And that's what and that was his message.
That was the first thing. He said, I really just
want to say to you, thank you for your service,
because you know, we wouldn't be sitting here, any of
us today if it wasn't for you all. And the
people were touched. They came off and they said, you know,
the guys from Vietnam, they spit on us, they wooed us,
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he said, so to be able to come back to
Washington and have an actual president that took the time
out of his day to come in, you know, and
to greet every one of us and shake our hands.
And he said, it was really really touching. And you
just said patriotism. This old man, big watery eyes, you
look like a hound dog. God bless them. And they're
wheeling them off. But I want you to go back
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and look at the clip now and you'll know who
I'm talking about. And he said, I just he was
just so touched.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
He goes.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
The idea goes. And what's even nicer is when the
people come off, they must advertise it down in Washington.
All sorts of just you like you and me, just
citizens come and they clap for them. He said, to
think that there are still people who have patriotism out
there after what we've been seeing. He goes, it's absolutely touching,
you know. They were, they were very pleased, nice, And
I thought, God, it was probably two hours out of
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everybody's day, you know, a half hour to drive a
half hour home, and to stand there and clap for
a half hour. God, we all could be a little
bit better and be and you know, to our to
our veterans and and please them a little bit.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Girl it is I don't know, Bobby. I just think
the President Obama show such dignity and classic.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Person even and I've.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Heard even people who did not care for him as
a president because not just because he was black, but
just didn't think that he They have so much adoration
and respect for how he carries himself as one of
the leaders, because he was a world leader when he
was the president of the United States. And I think
they're really a buyer that, especially compared to some other people.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
No, I would say the same. I think Joe Biden
as well. I have heard people that might not like
him that everybody always appreciates the fifty years of service
because that's something, and that you can say what you want.
They usually started like that about Joe Biden's politics. But
he is an inherently good man. You know, he will
try to do the best. He's compassionate, he cares about people.
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Maybe I don't agree with the way he goes about
it or whatever, but we have had some really decent,
some really decent presidents, and then not so much. I
saw Scotis Scotus. They are not. They had declined even
revisiting the same sex marriage president, which I loved because
I get to tell you something. When I saw the
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abortion one go down, I really had a fear that
this was and with all the trans stuff that has
been happening, I said, I got really nervous that this
was going to be the track we were going to take.
So I am absolutely thrilled to see they said we're
not even going to listen with the snap benefit, and
people were upset with that. No Justice Brown was correct.
(32:16):
She couldn't. She sent it back. She put it on
pause because the Second Circuit Court, I guess it is
they have to finish their ruling first. She can't oh
supersede them. They have to come back with a justification
and once they do that, then they can bring it
back to the Supreme Court hopefully everything will be resolved. Right,
So she was kind of passing the bit. She was
doing it right in order, though you can't take this
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step until this step is complete. So and now we
want Egene Carroll, he wants them to do that too.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah. Well, let me tell you I'm so happy about
with that gay marriage proposal because although I am bisexual,
I would never marry a man. I would never marry
somebody with the same equipment as me because that's not
what makes me happy, and that's not discrediting for anyone else.
But what I have seen, am I thirty nine years
of life? Huh wink wing. I've watched couples before gay
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marriage was legal in this country be together for fifteen
twenty twenty five years, build great fortunes together by property,
but because they didn't have that legal piece of paper
binding them together, when one passed away or one was injured,
the family would come in and take everything that they
built together, and the other person had no say. So
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I think that that marriage for gay mayor is so
much more than just I love you, you love me. It's
a protection that what we have built together, nobody can
just come in and take from us, because that's what
people does. And I'm glad Bab that it was shut down.
I hope they don't bring it back up. I know
that's one of the things that they don't want to do.
And I need gay marriage to stay legal because to me,
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as much as I love Gavin Newsom, but I don't
want to lose them. As the governor of California, Pete
Budageest is the most qualified person that we have from
the Democratic Party to be the president right now, but
they want to hold over his head that he's gay.
He's openly gay, he's never here, he's married to a man.
They look like they have a good marriage, So I
need that to stay good looking if Ara, if we
ever going to get America to accept him for what
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he is and not who he is, because who he
is is probably going to be a great leader. What
he is, he's just a gay man, but he's legally married, yes,
and that so I'm glad that that because it needs
to shine a positive light because have we lost that,
it would look negative towards Voodajedge And I do think
that people would can see because moody Judge is sharp.
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He curries himself with dignity and respect. He's not you know,
he's not out here wilding out and everything. So I
think he will change minds and change votes.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I do, and I don't think it's just about so.
I'm happy for everything that you just said, but being
married isn't just even about the finances. The family could
come in and strip them of making any decisions. I
want to pull the plug. If I'm the one that's
been with you and taking care of you through this disease,
whatever it is that took you out and were laying
in a hospital bed, and we're sitting all together and
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you're not married, you get to make no decisions. The
family can come in and bury you with how they want.
They can keep you on life support even if that's
not what you wanted. You know, if you have the
right to make decisions for your spouse, for your life partner,
and have everything that you just said, have it, but
this personal stuff as well. And I don't like that
because I know I had a friend who's they wanted.
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They never wanted to be on life support, not at all,
and the parents wanted they were this, you know, big
Bible thumping Christians, and they wanted to leave them on
as in a vegetative steak, for fifteen years, whatever it took,
and their partner was like no that you know, they
were engaged and they didn't get married, and they that
person stayed on, thank god, not on life support long
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they passed. But that I thought that wasn't right. This
person had been with them fifteen years. They should have
been able to make the decision and didn't get to
make decision about the funeral, about anything.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Well, and this happened. It shows that love is love.
So I'm glad that they did that. But I was
righting with you. I think me and you discussed this
online before that. I was so afraid after they overturn
Roe versus way that they would come in and just
denial that a marriage and marriage equality. So who's ever
on that side at the Supreme Court? That was the right.
(36:19):
That was a decision that thank you. You think y'all
made a lot of mistakes lately, but to me, that
was a good one because that does not need to
be dissolved. People who can should be able to love
who they want to love, and it's not your damn
business unless you're trying to sleep with me, and and
a lot of people trying to sleep with me.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Bobby, you dirty hor flo slow.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Almost all here, Bobby call me. She called me a
dirty whore.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I mean they are. So that's that's one branch. But
the military, I mean, the big thing right now is
they're saying that women are being sidelined. We have no
four star generals right now. There was a woman who
was supposed to be taking over for the Navy seals,
a purple Heart recipient, and nope, and so they're basically
like squeezing her out so that she's going to have
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to be retiring from the military. And she had absolutely
no intention. So that would have been the next thing
that they would have come for, you know, it's the
women for It would have been when they did come
from the women, first the abortion, and then it would
have been gay marriage, and then I think they would
have just gone down and try to strip us of
anything that they possibly could have. They could have done
if you weren't, you know, a male and a white male,
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you would have had nothing.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
I wonder could have passed for a white male. You
remember when Whoopy played a white male in that movie
she dressed up as she was the one.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yes yes, yes yes. That just checked me out and
I was like, what.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Could have passed? I won't could have passed as a
white male? I hear that came past as a black male.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Okay, look, did you see JFK's grandson is going to
be running for one of the one of the house
seats in New York? Jack your last.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I think it's in the Kennedy's blood to be in politics.
I just think it's in there. It's in their lineage.
I just think it's in their DNA service.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah. They they are big into service. He has money,
so he doesn't have to worry. I will say he
was huge coming out against his cousin. Now huge coming
out of his cousin. So it'll be interesting to see
how miserable RFK Junior makes it if his his little
cousin gets in.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Well, while we're on talking about New York, let me
just say shout out to money. Is it am I
saying it right? Is it my money?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I wait a manybody, I'm not. I'm just saying on
getting the male male male male elect But I'm telling
you right now I've been looking at the backlash and
the rule I am. I am petrified for him because
he's he's openly Muslim, and I don't think that he's
pushing the Muslim agenda. But I damn sure don't think
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that he's hiding it. He's not hiding it. And I'm
telling you, if it's just it's going to be it's
going to come down to a religious fallout because the
Muslims and then so many Jewish people in New York
and it's just, oh my god, I'm like wow.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That he's not anti jew but he has said he
said I don't want to say anti submitted. He said
some off collar stuff. And I think and I also,
I don't know how he's paying for anything flame I
don't I don't understand his policies. I can't see how
he's going to make them fiscally, how he's going to
make them work, other than you know, talking about it's nice,
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but how's that haws that happened?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Well, look, well look it's not working. The president did
the exact same thing, not one policy but revenge. But
look what he's at. He's the president of the United States,
So he.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Did he did run on that he was going to
make revenge.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
You know he did.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
He did say that he was going to do exactly
what he's doing. I mean, he wants everybody to do jerrymandering.
So you know that at Prop fifty past in California
and he's looking to have all of the states. Look
President Trump is and switch it around. And that's not
the way it goes. Every ten years, everybody has a shot.
You do it. You're doing during the census period. But
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you don't have all of these all of these nutty
changes made to our maps. I think it's absolutely crazy.
Or you do it like Gavin Newsom, did you actually
put it out for a vote, have people vote on
it and then make the changes. Then you know it's
gonna get It can get tricky and sticky for all
of us.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah to President Zelensky over in Ukraine, they are still
having a tough time over there. But when I tell
you that if man loves his country, he loves his people,
he loves his position, and he is not backing down,
He's not running it is. It is barbaric the conditions
over there, and this war is still going back and
(40:56):
forth and back and forth. But that man said I'm
not taking my tail between my leg. He is fighting
to the bitter end. I respect that. I admire that.
I want to be like that if I have to be,
and I'm listening, if everybody had the courage that this
man has to and the love of his country and
his people, and he's on the ground with the ass, listen,
that is aberrations, that is respect. His people will love him,
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his country will always admire him.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
He goes anywhere, everywhere he goes flame. So here's the difference.
There was some sports gear. It was a football, was
it the commander's the president Trump went. I guess they
boot him so loud that he was supposed to be
giving He was supposed to be swearing in some troops
and they couldn't even hear. The bullying was so bad,
and people were giving him the finger. I don't like that, though,
(41:43):
I mean, boom, okay, then have it. He still is
the president of the United States. Whether you care for
him or you don't care for him. Giving him the
finger is disrespectful anyway.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
On the third side, Bobby, how much disrespect is he
given out?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I don't care. He's a piece of shit. It's the
figurehead of the position. It's not him, it's not the man.
It's there. You just don't give it to the president
of the United States. On the other hand, you have Zelenski.
And no matter what country this man goes into, they're
roaring with with with clapping and hugging and throwing flowers
(42:19):
at him. And because he's just a good man, and
because he stands by what he says, and it is
frigid they're in there. Their winters are different than anything
you and I have ever experienced in our lifetime. It
is frigid over there, and they have back to those
like single digit and below below zero below, and they're fighting,
and you're right, and he is right down there with
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him in his black little outfit.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Let me share you co the cold. I would I
would throw the white towel, the blue towel, the reattack.
I do not like to be cold.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I'd be I'd be throwing my dirty drawers out, anything
no I put. We wrap them around my head like
a turbine to keep myself warm when it's thirty below
like that is a cold that, as I said, you
and I, it's just a col that neither one of
us have ever had. Our experience, and I hope we
absolutely have we don't again. So where are you going?
What are you doing? What is happening with you going forward?
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Oh? Yeah, Well, well I'm home because of the FAA.
Even though the shutdown is over, they saying it's going
to take a minute for to get the airlines back
on track. My fear with all of that is they
going to try to make up whatever money is they
thought they lost, which was going to raise the damn
price of tickets and travel, which is already high. I'm
planning on not going anywhere until I go to Cincinnati,
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Ohio on December seventh for the Funny Bone and December
to thirteenth that will be in New Orleans, Louisiana at
the Civic Theater. But if you're in LA on the
delivery twenty second, I will be in the at the
Downy Theater. And then on December to sixth, I'm hosting
for Tiffany Hattish at the Orphia and Who. We just
finished the twenty seven city tour and we got some
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other things coming up. I am just trying to stay
close to home, Bobby, because what I am, what I am,
what I am sure about is that I'm unsure about everything.
I am sure that I am unsure. That's the name
of the episode. I am sure that I am unsure
because I am sure and I don't know. Every day
I turn on the news, it's like, oh my god,
what's gonna It's like you spin the wheel on wheel
(44:23):
of fortune. You just never know where it's gonna fucking laying.
And I'm scared. I'm sick of that. That we don't
internalize that or we don't understand that that is a
heavy blanket on us, Bobby as a country, because we
don't know where we're going. Every day. We don't know
are we in the war, Are they gonna stop the dollar?
Is my bank account gonna get shut down? Is electricity
gonna get you know? They had a rolling black house,
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and then with all these natural disasters that seem to
be happening back to back to back to back to back.
You just I'm sure that I am unsure. But outside
of that, I'm just glad to be working, take care
of the family, and I'm gonna stay close to home
until it's a Now when it's a check call of me,
oh a bitch, God answer, I.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Don't blame you Tiffany does. Is it the funny Bone?
She she serves out Thanksgiving dinners, doesn't.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
She Yes, at the Laugh Factory.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
At the Laugh Factory. I'm just putting that out there
for anybody that might need a dinner, that wants to
go down there, or I don't know. I don't know.
If you, I know you. One year you volunteered as plenty.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
If they do it all day, they do it all day.
So many celebrities come through and volunteer. Tim Allen always
comes because he's friends with Jamie Massida, who is the
owner of the Hollywood Laugh Factory. I think this year,
you know, Bobby, I may go. I'm gonna cook dinner.
And I'm not an honor In honor of so many
people that I know who are on snap or EBT
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or having a hard time financially, I am not going
to cook a huge Thanksgiving dinner. It's just gonna be
a very regular dinner because I want to honor it.
That's my way of honoring them, to say, hey, we
there's no need for us to go out out. If girl,
We're gonna have a roast and some and some cabbage
and that's it, and some rice and We're gonna go
and serve food at the laugh Actor like we did before,
(46:08):
because I don't I think.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
That when you had said that to me earlier before
we had this, that that that's what you were going
to do the eating. I thought of Tiffany and I went,
but then we got to cut up, like we stopped
the call ended. I'm like, she should be serving the
food and I knew you had something with her during
that time you were hosting for her, but I didn't
know what the date. I didn't even know if you
were hosting for that, and then I meant to ask
(46:31):
you out. So I love that. I wish I was
doing something exciting. I have nothing, guys to tell you
that I'm doing exciting, but we appreciate you coming and
appreciate you listening, and we hosted. God that you pass
it honors to a friend.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
And where can we follow you at Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
You could follow me at Laugh and Learn podcast on
Instagram Clifford Bobby and Instagram, Bobby Clifford, on TikTok and Facebook.
And how about you, my friend?
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Before I give you what, you could follow me on
my social media handles. I just want to say I
want to give a shout out to Biloxi, Mississippi. Even
though Birmingham, Alabama was our final date of the tour, Biluxi, Mississippi,
showed up, showed out, showed they ass The energy in
the room was undeniable. The people came to enjoy themselves
(47:18):
and we gave far Carlisle Flame Unroll and Tiffany had it.
Gave that audience exactly what they needed. And that the energy.
We always say the energy is transferable. Bobby, you could
feel the love. I couldn't see if one person in
front of my face because you know, blind is a
bad And then they had the room so dark, but
you could hear the lap You could feel the energy.
(47:38):
It was like it jumped on you like a ghost.
It was great. So shout out to Biloxi, Mississippi and
the bout revised River Resort. Beautiful spot, beautiful view of
the Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Oh, oh my god, was it gorgeous. That that was something.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
And Tiffany had a sweet herby was every window and
it just covered her. Whole room was windows. It was gorgeous.
But the audience and that the way the staff treated us,
it was one in one of the better ones. We
had other places like that, but Montana was like that.
But it just it was everything. All the components fit,
so I knew it was gonna be a great show.
And thank you to all the twenty seven cities that
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came together to put us on for the Funny and
feelss tour, and to everyone that came out to all
of these shows. Thank you. Thank you for the love,
thank you for the support, thank you for your business.
Keep following us and you can follow me on Instagram
at Monroe Flame, all other social media platforms. On Flame, Monroe, TikTok,
on Flame, Monroe one two five. We appreciate you, guys.
(48:35):
I know we've been off. We're gonna make up for
it because this is what we do. We are Americans
stuck in the same boat together. I just need y'all
to know that if the boat goes down, one side
will sink before the other side, but nevertheless, the entire
boat will sink. Can we not sink our boat? Can
we not sink our boat? No?
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Because I don't have a life ast that will keep
me above water.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
They got they got wrapped.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
These fulluptation devices.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
That's all Like God man, so Harry, they're taking me
straight to the bottom of O's gonna have some's gonna
have a training snack. Thank you guys for joining us,
really right. Thank you, Aaron. We appreciate you, guys. Bobby,
Thank you as always, girl. We five years in, let's
see what we're gonna do, but we're still gonna go.
And whatever we're gonna do, we're gonna be righty here
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to report to you on laugh a Larn. Please follow
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Bobby said, tell a freeing, bring a subject, bring a topic. Nothing.
We are not afraid. We are not afraid of anything,
and we're not going to attack you. What we want
to do is learn from each other. So let's circulate it.
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Let's circulate it, okay.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
And what is the motto?
Speaker 4 (49:51):
And on that note, here at laugh and Learn five
years this motto has not changed. I don't think it
can change, but damn it, it sounds so relevant right
now here a laugh Alarn. We are not trying to
get you to change your mind. We are only trying
to get you to use your mind.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Because why, Bobby, is your mind and your vote are
a terrible thing to waste.
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He's having our exact conversation that we're gonna be ova.
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to be back because I was on the road. It
was definitely my faults, and it was it was worth
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though I hope you're on that one because you always
have a great fun with her.
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The party was successful. I thank god for event Bright
for prior ticket sales, because then I wouldn't have to
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I know, even if you can't come, I got your moolah.
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It's true. And then you know people like me can.
If they can't come, they could still they can still
sponsor a ticket. You can give it to somebody else
that that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Have it, or I can put the money in my purse.
Either way, Well, Bobby Clifford, In the last two weeks
that we have had off, it has been quite eventful
in this country, from a governor from a government shut down,
to the planes being delayed, to the FAA landoff workers,
to so many federal workers being furloughed or let go,
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to just to just so many things, all all the
while the Epstein file still have not been released. Oh
but there is a silver lining inside of the cloud.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And we'll get to it. But we also have no
more Prince Andrew either now we have Andrew Mountbatten windsor he.
I guess Charles Mice liked the name that that Harry
and Meghan picked for themselves, because he just gave it
to his brother as well. Unless that's the outcast name.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well, Prince Andrew was allegedly or well, was found guilty
right of messener.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
No, No, the girl said he did. He said he
never did, and but the people went wild, you know,
the people over there were no joke, so he stripped him.
I have to say, in some ways I feel a
certain way because you're born with a title. Do you
know what I mean, like, how do you take the
title away? And he might not get any perks take
that away, but how do you take It's like taking
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your last name. I just don't know how you do it.
But anyway, he did and put him out of the house,
and I think William's moving into his house. And now
Sarah's got nowhere to live because even though they were divorced,
Sarah and Andrew they lived on the same property. Because
you know those properties, like fifteen thousand square feet. She
lived in her little section, he lived in his little section.
It was a whole Michiga. Since since you've been gone,
since you've been gone, well, I.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Can't say that I feel bad for either of them.
If he did invests around with an underaged girl, he
deserved to have his haynd spank and Fergie the man
telling all the secrets. So yeah, right he was.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
They was very forgiving of her. No, you are right
if he was found guilty, but I don't think. I
don't know if there's any proof, like you know, all
of this, like, let's put out this stuff. I don't
know why they're holding they're holding on I'm I can't
say her name correctly. It's the Arizona congress girl. I've
been calling her a congress lady. I've been calling it
Adalita because I know that's her first name. But I'm
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having trouble with the jay. I don't know, but somehow
I would say the silenter. It makes a difference, it
makes a different vowel. I'm very embarrassed to say. I
can't say. I sound very waspy when I try to
say her last name.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But she was.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
She was finally sworn in, and supposedly next week, Johnson
is saying they're going to have the vote on it.
I don't understand. I think there's more. It makes it
more tantalizing, and people think there's more in it than
probably what's actually in it. I don't understand. Why just
just put the crap out and let's move on. I'm
so sick of saying the word Epstein.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, here's the killing hard Bobby. At this point, I
don't even think if they have a video of him, him,
and when I say him, we're talking about the command
in chief having sex with a kid is going to
change the mind of his follows because they are their
brainwashed and they're cut up with it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So I don't. I truly believe that he didn't. He
didn't for this particular thing. He didn't have anything to
do with it. Supposedly, Glenn Maxwell came out this is
before she she actually went into jail and whatnot, and
said that he doesn't have there's nothing of him in
any of these files.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
She's alive.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Durst said, supposedly that he's not in the And I
think what his people with the MAGA people are so
off the wall about. It's not about him, like they're
thinking anything is going to have President Trump in it,
but they think they were huge power players that are
in there, and they need to be exposed and we
need to either stop hold them accountable, but stop buying
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their products. Stop, you know, like do something. I think
that's what they're upset.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Bobby, Bobby, you're so white.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Oh my god, I have I'm super super white.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Let me change some Bobby. If Trump was Trump was
not in that and other people was in that, Trump
would release them on his own. Mama, he would have
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And you know why. You know why I'm saying that
because it's still self preservation. These are his friends that
back him, that pay his legal bills, that you know
that the wine in his pockets that buy all his
stupid products.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
But Bobby, all he had to do was they would
have got found guilty and then he would have quit.
He would have pardoned them that everybody else. So then
you know, that's what I'm saying. If it wasn't detrimental
to him, it would have been released, no matter whether
they would have been embarrassed or not. He was just
going to party him like he just partied Rulely Giuliani
and so many others. Meadows, sorry for the over for
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the challenging, the overturned, I mean the election of twenty twenty. Yeah,
it's bs. He would have he would have released his people.
So that's why I don't believe it. Bobby. I believe
he's all up in there.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I believe I believe that. I understand what you're saying.
But that's still the people us, you and I. We're
not going to pardon them. I'm not going to buy
if it's Chick fil A, And even though you know
I love me some Chick fil A, I'm not buying
Chick fil A ever again. I will never as much
as that your chicken is delicious and melts in your
mouth and probably is loaded with them with every chemical
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in the world. I'm not buying it again. They don't
want those people want their pockets to be lined and
they want to be super rich. I don't think it's
as much about them going to jails of what they
have to lose, but they If they just release the stuff,
you and I wouldn't even be having this conversation. I'm
so sick of talking about it, like I can't even
tell you it's just gone on for twenty years. This
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is like bullshit.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I ain't sick of talking about it. I want it out,
I want to see it. I want to be nosy,
I want it exposed. I want to be all up
in it.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
But I don't want to move on.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
But nevertheless, the distractions of those stay files has the
country in a tizzy. We have been in a ridiculous
government shut down for forty days forty three well is
it forty three forty three? But I mean that's ending.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So we had eight Democrats that from the Senate side
that moved over. It went to the House tonight. Six
Democrats from the House moved over. Two Republicans I believed
did not vote for it, and I think he could
only lose two.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well his song Bobby Clifford, me and Johnson. Everybody. Sorry,
here's the thing, why Democrats did you even go and
do this and fight with this if you were going
to come see, I don't understand the weakness of the
party that Yes, people are suffering, Yes, people are losing
their jobs. Yes, but if you don't stand ten toes
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down and play hudball with them, they win. What they
want is this philibus to remove, because if the philibuster
is out of the way, they are pretty much able
to do whatever the hell they want to do and
they can't take you back. But Bobby, I.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Don't vera and vice versa.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
If it's the weakness, it's the weakness of the Democratic
Party that people are losing faith in. Were really blew
my mind by because you could not have told me
that we were going to conceive after the last Tuesday
blue wave. We had a blue wave Tuesday, all these
differencyas switched to blue and even red states and red
councils because people are sick of it. So that was
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if that's indicative of what we were going to be
forced to, I mean, facing commit terms go Democrats go America.
But then for you democratic people who are in a
position of power, you folded like a goddamn card table.
It just looks it makes us and you have to
ask why.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think it's I think multiple things are happening. First off,
we you and I have spoken busts in the beginning.
We didn't want the government to shut down to begin with.
We would rather than work on it. Neither one of
us believed that anything was going to happen because we
had nothing to hold over them. Nothing was going to happen.
Nothing good was going to come from the shutdown to
begin with. Okay, so we got on board. We were
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good party people. We got on board. We waited the
forty three days people went without. We saw military people
in food lines, you know, everything that's disgraceful that you
can possibly say, we watched it. And then for them
now to say, and the people who that have all
stepped over are not running in twenty twenty six, so
they're very clever for them now to say that, well,
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nothing was going to come. Trump was never going to
sign off. This was it was never going to happen.
But it wasn't going to happen from the beginning, So
why would you shut down the government? It was fruitless
to shut down the government. So now they have it's
like talking to my ex husband about anything that was
important back in the day. We have a promise of
a potential discussion next month, which you know is never
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going to happen because it never happened with him either.
I mean, it's just ridiculous. And on the House side,
they're saying they're never going to vote for it. And
even if the Senate and the House voted for it,
Trump is never going to sign off on the ACA subsidies.
It's not going to happen. So what they're saying is, oh, well,
we can bring this up though again in January. Well,
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everybody's everybody, including me. I get my healthcare right now
through ACA because I'm unemployed. My premium is going to
go from three hundred and fifty dollars a month to
seven hundred dollars a month. So everybody's all of our
premiums already. And by the way, just to be completely transparent,
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everybody's healthcare is going up, not just the ACA, everybody.
That's a whole other thing. Our healthcare system for insurance
is so broken the health care insurance companies keep making
more and more. They want the hospitals to keep their
costs down as much as they possibly can. And the
only saying are the stakeholders are getting richer, We're not
getting anything more on our end. So that's what they
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actually need to fix and debate on. But in January,
when the day comes that we need to have this,
this another cr signed off, they're going to talk about it,
then I don't.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It's a smoking mirrors. It's all bullshit because they haven't
come through with any of the other problemises except for
what they want to do with their Project twenty twenty five.
But anything that's going to be helping the American people,
they haven't come through with it. It's all bullshit. And
I'm gonna tell you, Bobby Do, some of these Democrats
really have shown their hand. Because who surprised me a
lot was Fetterman. When Fetterman conceded after he had the
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strokes and all the whatever the whoop, the deupes he had,
the Democrats prayed for him, We all was looking out
for them. He came back. We thought it was like
an American story. And then for you to go flip
comes some where people are hungry. But you knew what
they you all were facing, what we were facing when
you decided to agree to this guy. Damn shut down.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
But for him from the beginning, let I'm glad you
were saying Fetterman. I'm not mad if I'm not mad
at Fetterman. And I'll tell you why. From the beginning,
he wasn't shutting it down. He never signed off on
the shutdown. He said, I am paid to be in
working for my people. That's what I'm paid to do.
He said, it's up to they're in power now. They
have the right to do whatever they're going to do,
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whether it hurts the people or not, and it's up
to our side to sit and negotiate and have conversations
with them. So he never he didn't flip. He said
from the beginning, he remember there were two of them.
There was an independent in him. He said, I am
not down with with the with the government shut down.
His fear was it was going to give Trump more power,
because if if the government shuts down and certain things
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have to happen the way that our constitution is, it
falls back on the on the executive branch to make
all the decisions, and he was so afraid that Trump
was going to strip everything. He felt that Congress was
just seeding too much power to the executive branch and
he wasn't down for it from the beginning. These other
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ones that shocked this, Catherine Cortes Mastro from Nevada, Dick
Durbin from Illinois, Maggie Hassan from the Hampshire. I'm just
I'm just shocked him came from Virginia. All these other
ones that flipped. I don't know. We were given a
num of the house. There are six. I don't know
who they actually are though them, I especially Jean Shaheen,
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like I'm shocked. She came right out and said, oh no,
you know we're not We're gonna stand strong. We're not
giving up where this sat in the other and then
she flips, what the hell did you just sign on
for the for the shutdown?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
It makes no sense, Bobby, Let me chase someone. When
they get the flipping like that, when they adamitated about it,
sometimes I think that they have been threatened or would
have you op decima with Dig Dervin from Illinois because
I'm from Illinois, so I've been known about Dig Dervin
a lot of time. He has always been on the
tee to Tarter. He is always wishy washy, so they
don't even surprise me about him.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I don't know anything about him. I just know here.
I was a little surprised. I think what's happening is well,
first of all, their constituents are are screaming, you know,
and because they are going with some money and they're
going without whatever and they can't take it. I think
they thought something would happen by now, but it's not
going to happen. I think that the GOP would have
been because they're blaming the whole shutdown on the Dems. Anyway,
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they would have been thrilled if people couldn't go with
with you know, in two weeks we have Thanksgiving and
people couldn't travel, they would have loved it. Would all
went on and jumped on us. All I can say
is if we could package u this correctly, if the
Democrats can package this correctly, and if it doesn't get
signed off in January, say listen, look in good faith,
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we flipped it and gave them what they wanted. And
they're still holding you guys. You know, they're still letting
letting your premiums go up, and they're still they're going
to hold the snap benefits because I don't think in
January it's going to be any different.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You said, they're like like they care even if they
don't do it. The Republicans are not going to care
now going to care. But but what the people are
gonna do? Vote?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Vote because we gotta we got another year to vote. Then,
I mean, we just did it. We did We did
just show them something. So I mean, well, we're gonna
have to say. I don't know, We're going to have
to we have to figure it out to go because
this is crazy. I'm happy to see that the air
travel will get better because I know from your your
flights got canceled, your initial you had to travel, you
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had to travel to get to get flights, so you know,
I want to see that start to open up because
we had you know, they were canceling flights at a percentage.
I think we were up to eight percent supposedly by
by Thanksgiving, and I hope that that all goes away
and we have people back to work.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Me too, Oh, you know what I do want to
talk about Dick Cheney died.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
He did die, and do you know they were playing
they were playing his lost on I believe it was CNN,
his lost message to the people, and it was a
couple of years ago. I think it was twenty twenty
two or twenty twenty three. How dangerous he was saying,
Trump was, if there's anything that we can possibly do,
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please keep him out. And I thought, isn't that interesting?
You know, I forgured he would have been a little
bit more on his side, but absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah. Interesting, Well, you know, Bobby, I think the only
reason that rest in peace. They changed. But the only
reason he said that to try to give a warning
was because he knew that his days was numbered. So
because had he been in health, this is my belief
from what from his history, his track record, Girl, he
would have been right over there with him, he would
have he would have been there with I can't.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Believe he made it to eighty four. Remember he had
that massive heart attackle he was he was like a savage.
He kept he kept going and working and and meanwhile
having his head his heart was all shredded. So he
was he was quite He was quite an interesting fellow,
didn't he shot someone they asked.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yes, according to his track record, his heart was shredded
long before it got shredded, probably.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And you know who else died?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Diane Ladd, Diane Ladder, and so did some actress today yesterday.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't recognized her. Isn't it
awful that i'd been? I had her on and then
I'm like, I don't know any of the stuff she did.
She was in some real old, old old timy movies.
But I didn't, I didn't recognize her. But Darian Lett
had had a nice life. I think she had a
stroke like five or six years ago, still working right
up to the end. Some of these people, that's gonna
be you.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, let me.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Give you, yeah, let me give you one more, one
more joke before you close the lid.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
And look and right on and look, sit my big
ass on the box to be gone. Bobby Air Travel
was Barberia. They canceled our flight from Alabama, so we
had to drive from Alabama to advantage. I think it's
the smaller hooks that were getting canceled first, but because
the major hooves were getting some of the flights out.
But they you really do have to experience it for yourself,
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because we were warned that the Atlanta Hartsfield Airport it
took four hours just to get through security. It took
us six minutes. You will be Yeah, they had show
videos of people in line for hours and Barbiera lines.
But you have to get there yourself and experience it
because it's not what you think. A lot of this
stuff is AI and a lot of this stuff I
think it's pushed out here to agitate the American people
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and instigate a lot of bullshit. So just some things
you have to go through for yourself or take the
word of somebody that you trust, not necessarily the media,
because the media has really changed to they are saying
exactly what they want them to say, or they are
disappearing off of the airwaves.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
It is it's flick bait. I think I feel that anyway.
I think, you know, because sometimes you'll have somebody say, oh,
watch out for so and so they're this or they're that,
and you got to experience it yourself, maybe to them,
and then you go and meet them and they're completely lovely.
You know, you can have that in the back of
your head. But I think in life you're going to
experience everything for yourself.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You com' bey, this is about to be crazy. Not
a crazy conspiracy, but this is my conspiracy, and I
want you to listen to it. I want you to
hear me and hear me well. So if if the
government should down ends and you know, whatever they're trying
to do now they're saying that we may go to
be going to war with Venezuela, you got to understand
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that in the time of a war in America. In America,
the sitting president does not have to be removed. They
do not have an election because he continues to be
the president. They can drag this war on for who
knows how long if we get into a war, whether
we win or not, because we would know we're not
going boots on the ground over there. And they're putting
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in the media what they wanted to be because in
doing a doing a time of war, the sitting president
remains the president. Remember how excited he got about two
months ago when he acts like he had just found
that out, because he ain't just found that out. I'm
telling you guys right now, the mid terms are very important,
but I think they're going to do it by any
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means necessary. They're going to try to get dismissed the
mid terms by going into war, so they're wanting to
be no election.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I don't know. I think that Venezuela certainly getting they've
had it with us, they're certainly getting ready. I mean,
the UK is no longer going to give us, going
to give us intel because they think us bombing all
the boats over in the Caribbean and down in that
area because of drugs. But we don't have really any
real documentation or information. We don't have hide facts for
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sure on everything. They're like they don't want to be
involved in it. So I don't know. I mean, we're
ostracizing a lot of people. I mean, the UK is
they're like our best buddies if we can't count on
them for intel. So I don't know if he'd hate
to be would he like to be king for the
rest of his life? He would. But I also think
a lot of that's distraction talk because I think that
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he likes to talk about that, so we talk about it,
and then we're not paying attention to all the other stuff,
like the Epstein files, like the fact that he's getting
himself in trouble. You know how sleepy Joe. He didn't
get in because he didn't reach out to the people
and he kept saying, Oh, we're in a good government.
I mean a good economy because we were in the
best economy of the world. But he wasn't listening to
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the people. What people are starting to complain and he's like,
this is the best economy. What are they talking about?
And I'm thinking, be careful. Donald's that's what got the
other one in trouble. So you better. You know you're
supposed to be relatable, you better keep being relatable. He's
talking about giving out rebate checks.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
He has never been relatable, and statistically they did a thing.
It's impossible for him to give everybody two thousand dollars,
so it's all bullshit.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Bobby twice as much as he brought in. He's got
he wants, and it's not going to be everybody. He's
not going to give it to the wealthy people, so
he's not going to give it. Somebody threw out an
amount of anybody that makes over one hundred thousand dollars,
so that is the real lower people. But it is
even if he gives it to that amount of people,
it's one hundred and eighty billion, according to CNN Reporting
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and News Nation than what he's collected, Like he keeps
promising things that we're only going to be Remember he
was going to bring the deficit down.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Because all he has to do. It would set out
loud two or three times, and his base believes it.
And so those ignorant people who would take the time
to understand what it is.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I mean, he's talking, or at least somebody on his
team is talking about fifty year mortgages so the young
people can buy buy a house. That doesn't even make
any sense. Fifty you'd have to buy a house in
your twenties. They're not going to have the kind of money.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And who wants to pay for a house for fifty
damn years?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, you would be paying in theory you would be
paying probably well you want to pay it in thirty years,
so that you have twenty years to say for retirement.
You'd be paying it almost your whole life, although you
would be paying probably a rent or something. But it
doesn't make to make it more, how about fix the
economy stupid as the expression goes, And then if that
makes it a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
The economy is toasted, and we got too many people
out here that supposed to represent the Democratic Party saying
the wrong things and putting out the information that got
people misgadded, which is why we're partially in this situation
that we are in. Bobby Clifford, it it really is
saying it really really is said on a lighter note.
On a lighter note, I want to say thank you
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to all the service men and women of this country
who have served in the country, in the military, in
any branch of the military, because yesterday was Veterans Day,
and I love that. So many establishments, so many restaurants
and everything acknowledged veterans, give them free food, so many
different things. So I just want to say thank you
to all the vets for your service. You know, it's
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not a job that I ever want to I never
wanted to be in the military. I never wanted to
serve in that way. But thank God that there are
people that want to do it. Hopefully we will continuously
get people that want to do it, because when what
this country has showed us, they don't really look out
good for their veterans, so it deters a lot of
people from wanting to do that. Even though it's a
steady job. And in mere fact that doing this government
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shut down, so many veterans and their families, or so
many people in the military and their families were standing
in soup kitchen lines and brand liance just to get
food because they were not getting paid. That is the
deterren that will make people not join the military. So
when we at a time of crisis and or war,
we won't have what we need because we already understand
that y'all ain't gonna fight for us, while the hell
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we're gonna fight for y'all. So yeah, I just don't
think that people value what the military is. Like Like
when we were younger, Bobby, it was like, oh, you're
in the Army, you're in the Marines, you're in the
Native It was a career, yeah, and it was positive.
It was looked at positive that you're gonna make something
of yourself. You're going to be American, you know, show
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your your what is the word I'm looking for, Bob,
and that's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
And you go benefits. You got the VA loan, you
could go to school. Then you know for free or
at a discount, depending you could buy a house because
you got you got a lower interest rate. You did time,
but you got something out of it. I sent you
a link. Did you see. President Obama went on the
Freedom flight. Freedom flights are when they bring veterans from
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World War Two, although I don't think there are any
anymore because they be in their in the late nineties
Korea and Vietnam. And they put him on a flight.
They bring them to Washington, They show them all of
the monuments, explain how they came, what they are, blah
blah blah, and President Obama went on and that typical president. Hello, folks,
you know I want to thank you. One guy says
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he was about ninety Holy shit, and then he said,
this mold man with his mouth gaping open. He couldn't
believe it. And another guy goes, no way, it was.
It was so hot warming. He touched all of them,
and he explained that when you're when you are president,
they give you this box of and they go with you.
They are these coins, coins of appreciation for the military,
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and you can give them out, and that he decided
that that's what he wanted to do. One man said,
the only president I ever got to meet was Gerald Ford.
Well Obama burst out laugh, and he says, well, can
you imagine that now? Looking now, it's me. One guy
said you handsome fella to President Obama and he saluted them,
and that tickled President Obama. It was cute. They were
so pleased and touched.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
That shows what that shows. It's what leaders.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I suppose you just said it, not to.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Put people down, not to discredit. You know, it might
they not might have been in service in the last five, ten,
twenty years, but they did serve, yes, and they served
and you did not. But you tear everybody down. That
blows me about the sitting president that you know, if
he would have done something like that, he would have
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turned it around, so say, you see what I did
for you guys. It just anything to take you.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
He would have charged her for the coins, right, yeah,
it would. It's just different personalities. Somebody else I could
see doing this, although you know he's just doing the
radiation is Joe Biden. I was a little shocked. I said, God,
they would have been a dynamic duo that it'll call
actually the floor. I would have loved have seeing Clinton, Bush,
Biden and Obama do it. The other one would never
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It's not his personality. They're in reverence of the service
that people did. And that's what and that was his message.
That was the first thing. He said, I really just
want to say to you, thank you for your service,
because you know, we wouldn't be sitting here, any of
us today if it wasn't for you all. And the
people were touched. They came off and they said, you know,
the guys from Vietnam, they spit on us, they wooed us,
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he said, so to be able to come back to
Washington and have an actual president that took the time
out of his day to come in, you know, and
to greet every one of us and shake our hands.
And he said, it was really really touching. And you
just said patriotism. This old man, big watery eyes, you
look like a hound dog. God bless them. And they're
wheeling them off. But I want you to go back
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and look at the clip now and you'll know who
I'm talking about. And he said, I just he was
just so touched.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
He goes.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
The idea goes. And what's even nicer is when the
people come off, they must advertise it down in Washington.
All sorts of just you like you and me, just
citizens come and they clap for them. He said, to
think that there are still people who have patriotism out
there after what we've been seeing. He goes, it's absolutely touching,
you know. They were, they were very pleased, nice, And
I thought, God, it was probably two hours out of
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everybody's day, you know, a half hour to drive a
half hour home, and to stand there and clap for
a half hour. God, we all could be a little
bit better and be and you know, to our to
our veterans and and please them a little bit.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Girl it is I don't know, Bobby. I just think
the President Obama show such dignity and classic.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Person even and I've.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Heard even people who did not care for him as
a president because not just because he was black, but
just didn't think that he They have so much adoration
and respect for how he carries himself as one of
the leaders, because he was a world leader when he
was the president of the United States. And I think
they're really a buyer that, especially compared to some other people.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
No, I would say the same. I think Joe Biden
as well. I have heard people that might not like
him that everybody always appreciates the fifty years of service
because that's something, and that you can say what you want.
They usually started like that about Joe Biden's politics. But
he is an inherently good man. You know, he will
try to do the best. He's compassionate, he cares about people.
(31:31):
Maybe I don't agree with the way he goes about
it or whatever, but we have had some really decent,
some really decent presidents, and then not so much. I
saw Scotis Scotus. They are not. They had declined even
revisiting the same sex marriage president, which I loved because
I get to tell you something. When I saw the
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abortion one go down, I really had a fear that
this was and with all the trans stuff that has
been happening, I said, I got really nervous that this
was going to be the track we were going to take.
So I am absolutely thrilled to see they said we're
not even going to listen with the snap benefit, and
people were upset with that. No Justice Brown was correct.
(32:16):
She couldn't. She sent it back. She put it on
pause because the Second Circuit Court, I guess it is
they have to finish their ruling first. She can't oh
supersede them. They have to come back with a justification
and once they do that, then they can bring it
back to the Supreme Court hopefully everything will be resolved. Right,
So she was kind of passing the bit. She was
doing it right in order, though you can't take this
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step until this step is complete. So and now we
want Egene Carroll, he wants them to do that too.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah. Well, let me tell you I'm so happy about
with that gay marriage proposal because although I am bisexual,
I would never marry a man. I would never marry
somebody with the same equipment as me because that's not
what makes me happy, and that's not discrediting for anyone else.
But what I have seen, am I thirty nine years
of life? Huh wink wing. I've watched couples before gay
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marriage was legal in this country be together for fifteen
twenty twenty five years, build great fortunes together by property,
but because they didn't have that legal piece of paper
binding them together, when one passed away or one was injured,
the family would come in and take everything that they
built together, and the other person had no say. So
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I think that that marriage for gay mayor is so
much more than just I love you, you love me. It's
a protection that what we have built together, nobody can
just come in and take from us, because that's what
people does. And I'm glad Bab that it was shut down.
I hope they don't bring it back up. I know
that's one of the things that they don't want to do.
And I need gay marriage to stay legal because to me,
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as much as I love Gavin Newsom, but I don't
want to lose them. As the governor of California, Pete
Budageest is the most qualified person that we have from
the Democratic Party to be the president right now, but
they want to hold over his head that he's gay.
He's openly gay, he's never here, he's married to a man.
They look like they have a good marriage, So I
need that to stay good looking if Ara, if we
ever going to get America to accept him for what
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he is and not who he is, because who he
is is probably going to be a great leader. What
he is, he's just a gay man, but he's legally married, yes,
and that so I'm glad that that because it needs
to shine a positive light because have we lost that,
it would look negative towards Voodajedge And I do think
that people would can see because moody Judge is sharp.
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He curries himself with dignity and respect. He's not you know,
he's not out here wilding out and everything. So I
think he will change minds and change votes.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I do, and I don't think it's just about so.
I'm happy for everything that you just said, but being
married isn't just even about the finances. The family could
come in and strip them of making any decisions. I
want to pull the plug. If I'm the one that's
been with you and taking care of you through this disease,
whatever it is that took you out and were laying
in a hospital bed, and we're sitting all together and
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you're not married, you get to make no decisions. The
family can come in and bury you with how they want.
They can keep you on life support even if that's
not what you wanted. You know, if you have the
right to make decisions for your spouse, for your life partner,
and have everything that you just said, have it, but
this personal stuff as well. And I don't like that
because I know I had a friend who's they wanted.
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They never wanted to be on life support, not at all,
and the parents wanted they were this, you know, big
Bible thumping Christians, and they wanted to leave them on
as in a vegetative steak, for fifteen years, whatever it took,
and their partner was like no that you know, they
were engaged and they didn't get married, and they that
person stayed on, thank god, not on life support long
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they passed. But that I thought that wasn't right. This
person had been with them fifteen years. They should have
been able to make the decision and didn't get to
make decision about the funeral, about anything.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Well, and this happened. It shows that love is love.
So I'm glad that they did that. But I was
righting with you. I think me and you discussed this
online before that. I was so afraid after they overturn
Roe versus way that they would come in and just
denial that a marriage and marriage equality. So who's ever
on that side at the Supreme Court? That was the right.
(36:19):
That was a decision that thank you. You think y'all
made a lot of mistakes lately, but to me, that
was a good one because that does not need to
be dissolved. People who can should be able to love
who they want to love, and it's not your damn
business unless you're trying to sleep with me, and and
a lot of people trying to sleep with me.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Bobby, you dirty hor flo slow.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Almost all here, Bobby call me. She called me a
dirty whore.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I mean they are. So that's that's one branch. But
the military, I mean, the big thing right now is
they're saying that women are being sidelined. We have no
four star generals right now. There was a woman who
was supposed to be taking over for the Navy seals,
a purple Heart recipient, and nope, and so they're basically
like squeezing her out so that she's going to have
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to be retiring from the military. And she had absolutely
no intention. So that would have been the next thing
that they would have come for, you know, it's the
women for It would have been when they did come
from the women, first the abortion, and then it would
have been gay marriage, and then I think they would
have just gone down and try to strip us of
anything that they possibly could have. They could have done
if you weren't, you know, a male and a white male,
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you would have had nothing.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
I wonder could have passed for a white male. You
remember when Whoopy played a white male in that movie
she dressed up as she was the one.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yes yes, yes yes. That just checked me out and
I was like, what.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Could have passed? I won't could have passed as a
white male? I hear that came past as a black male.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Okay, look, did you see JFK's grandson is going to
be running for one of the one of the house
seats in New York? Jack your last.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I think it's in the Kennedy's blood to be in politics.
I just think it's in there. It's in their lineage.
I just think it's in their DNA service.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah. They they are big into service. He has money,
so he doesn't have to worry. I will say he
was huge coming out against his cousin. Now huge coming
out of his cousin. So it'll be interesting to see
how miserable RFK Junior makes it if his his little
cousin gets in.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Well, while we're on talking about New York, let me
just say shout out to money. Is it am I
saying it right? Is it my money?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I wait a manybody, I'm not. I'm just saying on
getting the male male male male elect But I'm telling
you right now I've been looking at the backlash and
the rule I am. I am petrified for him because
he's he's openly Muslim, and I don't think that he's
pushing the Muslim agenda. But I damn sure don't think
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that he's hiding it. He's not hiding it. And I'm
telling you, if it's just it's going to be it's
going to come down to a religious fallout because the
Muslims and then so many Jewish people in New York
and it's just, oh my god, I'm like wow.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That he's not anti jew but he has said he
said I don't want to say anti submitted. He said
some off collar stuff. And I think and I also,
I don't know how he's paying for anything flame I
don't I don't understand his policies. I can't see how
he's going to make them fiscally, how he's going to
make them work, other than you know, talking about it's nice,
(39:33):
but how's that haws that happened?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Well, look, well look it's not working. The president did
the exact same thing, not one policy but revenge. But
look what he's at. He's the president of the United States,
So he.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Did he did run on that he was going to
make revenge.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
You know he did.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
He did say that he was going to do exactly
what he's doing. I mean, he wants everybody to do jerrymandering.
So you know that at Prop fifty past in California
and he's looking to have all of the states. Look
President Trump is and switch it around. And that's not
the way it goes. Every ten years, everybody has a shot.
You do it. You're doing during the census period. But
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you don't have all of these all of these nutty
changes made to our maps. I think it's absolutely crazy.
Or you do it like Gavin Newsom, did you actually
put it out for a vote, have people vote on
it and then make the changes. Then you know it's
gonna get It can get tricky and sticky for all
of us.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah to President Zelensky over in Ukraine, they are still
having a tough time over there. But when I tell
you that if man loves his country, he loves his people,
he loves his position, and he is not backing down,
He's not running it is. It is barbaric the conditions
over there, and this war is still going back and
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forth and back and forth. But that man said I'm
not taking my tail between my leg. He is fighting
to the bitter end. I respect that. I admire that.
I want to be like that if I have to be,
and I'm listening, if everybody had the courage that this
man has to and the love of his country and
his people, and he's on the ground with the ass, listen,
that is aberrations, that is respect. His people will love him,
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his country will always admire him.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
He goes anywhere, everywhere he goes flame. So here's the difference.
There was some sports gear. It was a football, was
it the commander's the president Trump went. I guess they
boot him so loud that he was supposed to be
giving He was supposed to be swearing in some troops
and they couldn't even hear. The bullying was so bad,
and people were giving him the finger. I don't like that, though,
(41:43):
I mean, boom, okay, then have it. He still is
the president of the United States. Whether you care for
him or you don't care for him. Giving him the
finger is disrespectful anyway.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
On the third side, Bobby, how much disrespect is he
given out?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I don't care. He's a piece of shit. It's the
figurehead of the position. It's not him, it's not the man.
It's there. You just don't give it to the president
of the United States. On the other hand, you have Zelenski.
And no matter what country this man goes into, they're
roaring with with with clapping and hugging and throwing flowers
(42:19):
at him. And because he's just a good man, and
because he stands by what he says, and it is
frigid they're in there. Their winters are different than anything
you and I have ever experienced in our lifetime. It
is frigid over there, and they have back to those
like single digit and below below zero below, and they're fighting,
and you're right, and he is right down there with
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him in his black little outfit.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Let me share you co the cold. I would I
would throw the white towel, the blue towel, the reattack.
I do not like to be cold.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I'd be I'd be throwing my dirty drawers out, anything
no I put. We wrap them around my head like
a turbine to keep myself warm when it's thirty below
like that is a cold that, as I said, you
and I, it's just a col that neither one of
us have ever had. Our experience, and I hope we
absolutely have we don't again. So where are you going?
What are you doing? What is happening with you going forward?
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Oh? Yeah, Well, well I'm home because of the FAA.
Even though the shutdown is over, they saying it's going
to take a minute for to get the airlines back
on track. My fear with all of that is they
going to try to make up whatever money is they
thought they lost, which was going to raise the damn
price of tickets and travel, which is already high. I'm
planning on not going anywhere until I go to Cincinnati,
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Ohio on December seventh for the Funny Bone and December
to thirteenth that will be in New Orleans, Louisiana at
the Civic Theater. But if you're in LA on the
delivery twenty second, I will be in the at the
Downy Theater. And then on December to sixth, I'm hosting
for Tiffany Hattish at the Orphia and Who. We just
finished the twenty seven city tour and we got some
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other things coming up. I am just trying to stay
close to home, Bobby, because what I am, what I am,
what I am sure about is that I'm unsure about everything.
I am sure that I am unsure. That's the name
of the episode. I am sure that I am unsure
because I am sure and I don't know. Every day
I turn on the news, it's like, oh my god,
what's gonna It's like you spin the wheel on wheel
(44:23):
of fortune. You just never know where it's gonna fucking laying.
And I'm scared. I'm sick of that. That we don't
internalize that or we don't understand that that is a
heavy blanket on us, Bobby as a country, because we
don't know where we're going. Every day. We don't know
are we in the war, Are they gonna stop the dollar?
Is my bank account gonna get shut down? Is electricity
gonna get you know? They had a rolling black house,
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and then with all these natural disasters that seem to
be happening back to back to back to back to back.
You just I'm sure that I am unsure. But outside
of that, I'm just glad to be working, take care
of the family, and I'm gonna stay close to home
until it's a Now when it's a check call of me,
oh a bitch, God answer, I.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Don't blame you Tiffany does. Is it the funny Bone?
She she serves out Thanksgiving dinners, doesn't.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
She Yes, at the Laugh Factory.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
At the Laugh Factory. I'm just putting that out there
for anybody that might need a dinner, that wants to
go down there, or I don't know. I don't know.
If you, I know you. One year you volunteered as plenty.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
If they do it all day, they do it all day.
So many celebrities come through and volunteer. Tim Allen always
comes because he's friends with Jamie Massida, who is the
owner of the Hollywood Laugh Factory. I think this year,
you know, Bobby, I may go. I'm gonna cook dinner.
And I'm not an honor In honor of so many
people that I know who are on snap or EBT
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or having a hard time financially, I am not going
to cook a huge Thanksgiving dinner. It's just gonna be
a very regular dinner because I want to honor it.
That's my way of honoring them, to say, hey, we
there's no need for us to go out out. If girl,
We're gonna have a roast and some and some cabbage
and that's it, and some rice and We're gonna go
and serve food at the laugh Actor like we did before,
(46:08):
because I don't I think.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
That when you had said that to me earlier before
we had this, that that that's what you were going
to do the eating. I thought of Tiffany and I went,
but then we got to cut up, like we stopped
the call ended. I'm like, she should be serving the
food and I knew you had something with her during
that time you were hosting for her, but I didn't
know what the date. I didn't even know if you
were hosting for that, and then I meant to ask
(46:31):
you out. So I love that. I wish I was
doing something exciting. I have nothing, guys to tell you
that I'm doing exciting, but we appreciate you coming and
appreciate you listening, and we hosted. God that you pass
it honors to a friend.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
And where can we follow you at Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
You could follow me at Laugh and Learn podcast on
Instagram Clifford Bobby and Instagram, Bobby Clifford, on TikTok and Facebook.
And how about you, my friend?
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Before I give you what, you could follow me on
my social media handles. I just want to say I
want to give a shout out to Biloxi, Mississippi. Even
though Birmingham, Alabama was our final date of the tour, Biluxi, Mississippi,
showed up, showed out, showed they ass The energy in
the room was undeniable. The people came to enjoy themselves
(47:18):
and we gave far Carlisle Flame Unroll and Tiffany had it.
Gave that audience exactly what they needed. And that the energy.
We always say the energy is transferable. Bobby, you could
feel the love. I couldn't see if one person in
front of my face because you know, blind is a
bad And then they had the room so dark, but
you could hear the lap You could feel the energy.
(47:38):
It was like it jumped on you like a ghost.
It was great. So shout out to Biloxi, Mississippi and
the bout revised River Resort. Beautiful spot, beautiful view of
the Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Oh, oh my god, was it gorgeous. That that was something.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
And Tiffany had a sweet herby was every window and
it just covered her. Whole room was windows. It was gorgeous.
But the audience and that the way the staff treated us,
it was one in one of the better ones. We
had other places like that, but Montana was like that.
But it just it was everything. All the components fit,
so I knew it was gonna be a great show.
And thank you to all the twenty seven cities that
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came together to put us on for the Funny and
feelss tour, and to everyone that came out to all
of these shows. Thank you. Thank you for the love,
thank you for the support, thank you for your business.
Keep following us and you can follow me on Instagram
at Monroe Flame, all other social media platforms. On Flame, Monroe, TikTok,
on Flame, Monroe one two five. We appreciate you, guys.
(48:35):
I know we've been off. We're gonna make up for
it because this is what we do. We are Americans
stuck in the same boat together. I just need y'all
to know that if the boat goes down, one side
will sink before the other side, but nevertheless, the entire
boat will sink. Can we not sink our boat? Can
we not sink our boat? No?
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Because I don't have a life ast that will keep
me above water.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
They got they got wrapped.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
These fulluptation devices.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
That's all Like God man, so Harry, they're taking me
straight to the bottom of O's gonna have some's gonna
have a training snack. Thank you guys for joining us,
really right. Thank you, Aaron. We appreciate you, guys. Bobby,
Thank you as always, girl. We five years in, let's
see what we're gonna do, but we're still gonna go.
And whatever we're gonna do, we're gonna be righty here
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Bobby said, tell a freeing, bring a subject, bring a topic. Nothing.
We are not afraid. We are not afraid of anything,
and we're not going to attack you. What we want
to do is learn from each other. So let's circulate it.
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Let's circulate it, okay.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
And what is the motto?
Speaker 4 (49:51):
And on that note, here at laugh and Learn five
years this motto has not changed. I don't think it
can change, but damn it, it sounds so relevant right
now here a laugh Alarn. We are not trying to
get you to change your mind. We are only trying
to get you to use your mind.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Because why, Bobby, is your mind and your vote are
a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
And don't waste my time or your vote. Because y'all
see what we at, y'all see where we hit it.
We are trained headed to a brick wall with no brakes,
and it's a big ol' orange thing right in the front.
It's not a sponge. It's gonna it's gonna hit first. Shit. Okay,
thank you so much for joining us. Be out. Don't
miss an episode of Laugh and Learn. Listen and subscribe
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Our ejective producer is Tippity Hattish. Our theme music is
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