November 13, 2025 • 51 mins
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, comedian Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford blend humor with heartfelt commentary as they tackle a wide range of topics—from personal experiences on tour to the current political climate. The conversation dives into the realities of the government shutdown, healthcare challenges, and the ongoing struggles faced by veterans and military families.
Flame and Bobbi reflect on the importance of strong presidential leadership in honoring service members, the continued fight for marriage equality, and the courage of global figures like President Zelensky. With wit and wisdom, they explore how laughter can coexist with serious social reflection, ultimately emphasizing the need for empathy, unity, and community support during uncertain times.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're Flame, we.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Say she if you watch your coffee time the baby
you know the name Flame, my bro also known as
my ro Flame. Come in with last and come in
with you love loundes. Baby, you better catch it when
you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting
now comics, just paying homage.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
What's up? Tips?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know she raised shot towns on speaking to the
grown a second, we're gonna laugh, cut him and kicking,
and at the end we leave it with is a
lifted spirits.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But you want to revisit so your first.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Second listen, young folks say it's lift old folks that
we think it's good.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Hey, no fish, do what you do? Y? No this
do what you do?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Hain't no kiss?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Do what I do?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe, and welcome to
this week's episode of Laugh and Learn. Where our produced
have been in the background cutting up. We just hold
his whole conversation. We've been waiting at table. I'm just
gonna put it on out there since he don't want
to tape us.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Here's having our exact conversation that we're gonna be having.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
But we are two weeks out and we are glad
to be because I was on the road. It was
definitely my fault, and it was it was worked it
because I was on the road working. I did twenty
seven cities with Tiffany Haddish and Barbara Carlisle on the
funny and feel of his tour. And it's over, and
I'm happy, and let's go. Let's go, by Becuidford, let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I know she's got another one next year, though, I
hope you're on that one because you always have a
great fun with her.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Did you miss me to it?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I always miss you. You don't miss me. I'm too
much for you.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Hey, girl, at your at your average. I think there
lists too much for everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So the tourist goods. The tour is over. Your party
was successful.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The party was successful. Thank you to well looked dark.
Let me turn the light on the other line. I
thank god for event Bright for prior chicken sales, because
then I wouldn't have to take her hit. So I
prefer event Bright because then I know, even if you
can't come, I get your moolah true.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And then you know people like me can If they
can't come, they could still they can still sponsor a ticket.
You can give it to somebody else that that doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It, or I can put the money in my purse.
Either way, well, by the Clifford. In the last two
weeks that we have had off, it has been quite
eventful in this country, from a government shut down, to
the planes being delayed, to the FAA lanoff workers, to
so many federal workers being furloughed or let go, to
(03:33):
just to just so many things, all all the while
the fsteon file still have not been released. Oh but
there is a silver lining inside of the cloud.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And we'll get to it. But we also have no
more Prince andro either now we have Andrew Mountbatten windsor he.
I guess Charles mcele liked the name that that Harry
and Meghan picked for themselves, because he just gave it
to his brother as well, unless that's the outcast name.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, Prince Andrew was allegedly or was found guilty right
of in messing around with something.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
No, no, the girl said he did. He said he
never did, but the people went wild. You know, the
people over there are no joke, so he stripped him.
I have to say, in some ways I feel a
certain way because you're born with a title. Do you
know what I mean? Like, how do you take the
title away? And he might not get any perks take
that away, but how do you take It's like taking
(04:30):
your last name. I just don't know how you do it.
But anyway, he did and put him out of the house.
And I think William's moving into his house. And now
Sarah's got nowhere to live because even though they were divorced,
Sarah and Andrew they lived on the same property because
you know those properties, like fifteen thousand square feet. She
lived in her little section, he lived in his little section.
It was a whole Michiga. Since since you've been gone,
since you've been gone, Well.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I can't say that I feel bad for either of them.
If he divests around with an underaged girl. He deserved
to have his haynd Spain and Fergie did man telling
all the secrets.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So yeah, right, he was very was very forgiving of her. No,
you are right if he was found guilty, but I
don't I don't know if there's any proof, like you know,
all of this, like, let's put out this stuff. I
don't know why they're holding they're holding on and I
can't say her name correctly, it's the Arizona congress girl.
I've been calling her a congress lady. I've been calling
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it Atalita because I know that's her first name. But
I'm having trouble with the jay. I don't know somehow
would say the silent er. It makes a difference, it
makes a different vowel. I'm very embarrassed to say. I
can't say. I sound very waspy when I try to
say her last name. But she was. She was finally
sworn in, and supposedly next week Johnson is saying they're
going to have the vote on it. I don't understand.
(05:46):
I think there is more. It makes it more tantalizing,
and people think there's more in it than probably's what's
actually in it. I don't understand why just just put
the crap out. Let's move on. I'm so sick of
saying the word Epstein.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, here's the killing power Bobby. At this point, I
don't even think if they have a video of him
having when I say him, we're talking about the command
in chief having says with a KEYD is going to
change the mind of his follows because they are their
brainwashed and they're cut up with it, So I.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Don't I truly believe that he didn't. He didn't for
this particular thing. He didn't have anything to do with it. Supposedly,
Glenn Maxwell came out this is before she she actually
went into jail and whatnot and said that he doesn't
have there's nothing of him in any of these files.
Juliz's jerre Sewart said supposedly that he's not in the
(06:37):
And I think what his people with the MEGA people
are so off the wall about. It's not about him,
like they're thinking anything is going to have President Trump
in it, but they think there are huge power players
that are in there and they need to be exposed
and we need to either stop hold them accountable, but
stop buying their products. Stop, you know, like do something.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think that's Bobby, Bobby, you so white, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I'm super super lighte.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Let me tell you something, Bobby, if Trump was Trump
was not in that and other people was in that,
Trump would have released them fire on his own, Mama,
he would have.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I don't know. And you know why. You know why
I'm saying that because it's still self preservation. These are
his friends that back him, that pay his legal bills, that.
You know that the line his pockets that buy his product.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
But Bobby, all he had to do was they would
have got found guilty and then he would have acquit.
He would have pardoned everybody else. So then you know,
that's what I'm saying. If it wasn't detrimental to him,
it would have been released, no matter whether they would
have been embarrassed or not. He was just going to
party him like he just partied Ruley Giuliani and so
many others meadows, soorry for the over for the challenging,
(07:50):
the overturned, I mean the election of twenty twenty. Yeah,
it's bs. He would have he would have released his people.
So that's why I don't believe it. Bobby. I believe
he's all up in there.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I believe I believe that. I understand what you're saying.
But that's still the people us, you and I. We're
not going to pardon them. I'm not going to buy
if it's Chick fil A, And even though you know
I love me some Chick fil A, I'm not buying
Chick fil A ever again. I will never as much
as that chicken is delicious and melts in your mouth
and probably is loaded with them with every chemical in
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the world. I'm not buying it again. They don't want
Those people want their pockets to be lined and they
want to be super rich. I don't think it's as
much about them going to jails of what they have
to lose. But if they just release this stuff, you
and I wouldn't even be having this conversation. I'm so
sick of talking about it, like I can't even tell
you it's just gone on for twenty years. This is
(08:43):
like bullshit.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I aystack to talk about it. I want it out,
I want to see it. I want to be nosy,
I want it exposed. I want to be all up
in it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I don't want to move on.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But nevertheless, the distractions of those state fowls has the
country in a tizzy. We have been in there rediculous
government shut down for forty days forty three, Well is
it forty three forty three? But I mean that's ending.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
So we had eight Democrats that from the Senate side
that moved over. It went to the House tonight. Six
Democrats from the House moved over. Two Republicans I believed
did not vote for it, and I think he could
only lose two.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Well, here's the outing, Bobby Clifford, Mina Johnson here, buddy, sorry,
here's the thing. Why Democrats did you even go and
do this and fight with this if you were going
to come see, I don't understand the wikns of the
party that yes, people are suffering, Yes, people are losing
(09:45):
their jobs. Yes, but if you don't stand ten toes
down and play hullball with them, they wi what they
want is this philibus to remove. Because of the philibusters
out of the way, they are pretty much able to
do whatever the hell they want to do and they
can't take it back. But Bobby and vice.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Versa, if we get in it's the house.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
It's the weakness of the Democratic Party that people are
losing faith. And what really blew my mind by because
you could not have told me that we were going
to conceive after last Tuesday blue wave. We had a
blue eye Tuesday, all these differency switched to blue and
in red states and red councils because people are sick
of it. So that was if that's indicative of what
(10:25):
we were going to be forced to I mean, facing
commit terms, Go Democrats, go America. But then for you
Democratic people who are in a position of power. You
folded like a goddamn card table. It just looks. It
makes us If you have to ask why.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think it's I think multiple things are happening. First off,
we you and I have spoken busts in the beginning.
We didn't want the government to shut down to begin with.
We would rather them work on it. Neither one of
us believed that anything was going to happen because we
had nothing to over them. Nothing was going to happen,
Nothing good was going to come from the shutdown to
begin with. Okay, so we got on board. We were
(11:06):
good party people, We got on board. We waited the
forty three days, people went without. We saw military, people
in food lines, you know, everything that's disgraceful that you
can possibly say, we watched it. And then for them
now to say, and the people who that have all
stepped over are not running in twenty twenty six, so
they're very clever for them now to say that, well,
(11:29):
nothing was going to come. Trump was never going to
sign off. This was it was never going to happen.
But it wasn't going to happen from the beginning, So
why would you shut down the government? It was fruitless
to shut down the government. So now they have it's
like talking to my ex husband about anything that was
important back in the day. We have a promise of
a potential discussion next month, which you know is never
(11:52):
going to happen because it never happened with him either.
I mean, it's just ridiculous. And on the House side,
they're saying they're never going to vote for it. And
even if the Senate and the House voted for it,
Trump is never going to sign off on the ACA subsidies.
It's not going to happen. So what they're saying is, oh, well,
we can bring this up though again in January. Well,
(12:13):
everybody's everybody, including me. I get my healthcare right now
through ACA because I'm unemployed. My premium is going to
go from three hundred and fifty dollars a month to
seven hundred dollars a month. So everybody's all of our
our premiums already. And by the way, just to be
completely transparent, everybody's healthcare is going up, not just the ACA, everybody.
(12:37):
That's a whole other thing. Our healthcare system for insurance
is so broken. The health care insurance companies keep making
more and more They want the hospitals to keep their
costs down as much as they possibly can, and the
only saying are the stakeholders are getting richer, We're not
getting anything more on our end. So that's what they
actually need to fix and debate on. But January, when
(13:01):
the day comes that we need to have this, this
another cr signed off, they're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Then I just thought, I don't I don't say it's
it's a it's a smoking mirrors. It's all bullshit because
they haven't come through with any of the other promises
except for what they want to do with their Project
twenty twenty five. But anything that's going to be helping
the American people, they haven't come through with it. It's
all bullshit. And I'm gonna tell you, Bobby that some
of these Democrats really have shown their hand. Because who
surprised me a lot. Was fedament when Fetterman conceded, after
(13:31):
he had the strokes and all the whatever the whoop,
the deupes, he had, every Democrats prayed for him, We
all was looking out for he came back. We thought
it was like an American story. And then for you
to go flip talk some wee people are hungry. But
you knew what they what you all were facing, what
we were facing when you decided to agree to this guy.
Damn shut down.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
But he for him from the beginning. Let let I'm
glad of you were saying, fetament, I'm not mad if
I'm not mad at Feedterman. And I'll tell you why.
From the beginning he wasn't shut it down. He never
signed off on the shutdown. He said, I am paid
to be in working for my people. That's what I'm
paid to do. He said, it's up to they're in
power now. They have the right to do whatever they're
going to do, whether it hurts the people or not,
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and it's up to our side to sit and negotiate
and have conversations with them. So he never he didn't flip.
He said from the beginning, he remember there were two
of them, there was an independent in him. He said,
I am not down with the government shutdown. His fear
was it was going to give Trump more power, because
if if the government shuts down and certain things have
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to happen, the way that our constitution is, it falls
back on the executive branch to make all the decisions.
And he was so afraid that Trump was going to
strip everything. He felt that Congress was just seeding too
much power to the executive branch and he wasn't down
for it from the beginning. These other ones that I'm
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shocked this, Catherine Cortes Mastro from Nevada, Dick Durban from Illinois,
Maggie has signed from the Hampshire. I'm just I'm just
shocked him came from Virginia. All these other ones that flipped,
I don't know. We were given a number of the House.
There are six. I don't know who they actually are
though them, I especially Jeene Shaheen, like I'm shocked. She
(15:17):
came right out and said, oh no, you know we're
not We're gonna stand strong. We're not giving up where this,
that and the other. And then she flips, what the
hell did you just sign on for the for the shutdown?
It makes no.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Sense, Bobby, Let me chase someone. When they get the
flipping like that, when they adamitt about it, sometimes I
think that they have had been threatened or what have
you conspiracy with? Dig Derbin from Illinois because I'm from Illinois,
so I've been known about Dick Derving a long time.
He has always been on the teeter tater. He is
always wishy washy, so they don't even surprise me about him.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't know anything about him.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I just know here.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I was a little surprised. I think what's happening is well,
first of all, they're constituents are or screaming, you know,
and because they are going with some money and they're
going without whatever and they can't take it. I think
they thought something would happen by now, but it's not
going to happen. I think that the GOP would have
been because they're blaming the whole shutdown on the Dems. Anyway,
they would have been thrilled if people couldn't go with
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with you know, in two weeks we have Thanksgiving and
people couldn't travel. They would have loved it. Would all
women in jumped on us. All I can say is
if we could package U this correctly, if the Democrats
can package us correctly, and if it doesn't get signed
off in January, say listen, look in good faith, we
flipped it and gave them what they wanted, and they're
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still holding you guys. You know, they're still letting, letting
your premiums go up and there's still they're going to
hold the snap benefits because I don't think in January
it's going to be any different. Well, this is gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You said, they're like you like they care even if
they don't do it. The Republicans are not going to care.
And now they're like, they're not going to care. And
but what the people are gonna do? Vote?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Vote because we gotta we got another year to vote. Then,
I mean, we just did it. We did We did
just show them something. So I mean, well, we're gonna
have to say, I don't know, We're gonna have to
we have to figure it out because this is crazy
where you at?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay, Okay, here I come. I'm happy with Bobbie, keep talking.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I'm happy to see that the air travel will get
better because I know from you your your flights got
canceled or initiation, you had to travel, you had to
travel to get to get flights. So I you know,
I want to see that start to open up because
we had, you know, they were canceling flights at a percentage.
I think we were up to eight percent supposedly by
by Thanksgiving, and I hope that that all goes away
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and we have people back to work.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Me too, Joanna. Oh, keep going byby, I'm listening. Oh
you know what I do want to talk about. Dick
Cheney died.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
He did die, and do you know they were playing
they were playing his lost on I believe it was CNN,
his lost message to the people, and it was a
couple of years ago. I think it was twenty twenty
two or twenty twenty three, and he was day customed
how dangerous he was saying. Trump was, if there's anything
(18:23):
that we can possibly do, please keep him out. And
I thought, isn't that interesting? You know, I figured he
would have been a little bit more on his side,
but absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah. Interesting, Well, you know, Bobby, I think the only
reason that rest in peace. They changing. But the only
reason he said that to try to give a warning
was because he knew that his days was numbered. So
because had he been in health, this is my belief
from what from his history, his track record, Girl, he
would have been right over there with him, He would
have he would have.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Been with I can't believe he made it to eighty four.
Remember he had that massive heart attackle he was, he
was like a savage. He kept he kept going and working,
and and meanwhile having his head. His heart was all shredded,
so he was he was quite. He was quite an
interesting fellow, didn't he is this neither the ass?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes, according to his track worker, his heart was shredded
long before it got shredded. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Probably. And you know who else died? Diane Ladd?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Diane Lad and so did some actress today yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't recognize her. Isn't it
awful that i'd been? I had her on and then
I'm like, I don't know any of the stuff she did.
She was in some real old, old old timy movies.
But I didn't. I didn't recognize her. But Dane Lett
had had a nice life. I think she had a
stroke like five or six years ago, still working right
up to the end. Some of these people, that's gonna
be you. Yeah, let me give you, let me give
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you one more, one more joke before you close the.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Lid, and right on and THEO sit my big ass
on the box, It'll be gone. Bobby Air Travel was Barbaria.
They canceled our flight from Alabama, so we had to
drive from Alabama to advantage I think it's the smaller
hubs that were getting canceled first, but because the major
hubs were getting some of the flights out, but they
You really do have to experience it for yourself because
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we were warned that the Atlanta Hartsfield Airport it took
four hours just to get through security. It took us
six minutes. You have to say, yeah, there are show
videos of people in line for hours and barbera lines,
but you have to get there for yourself and experience
it because it's not what you think. A lot of
this stuff is AI and a lot of this stuff
I think it's pushed out here to agitate the American
(20:37):
people and instigate a lot of bullshit. So just some
things you have to go through for yourself or take
the word of somebody that you trust, not necessarily the media,
because the media has really changed to they are saying
exactly what they want them to stay or they are
disappearing off of the airways.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It is it's flickbab. I think I feel that anyway.
I think you because sometimes you'll have somebody say, oh,
watch out for so and so they're this or they're that,
and you've got to experience it. Yourself maybe to them
and then you go and meet them and they're completely lovely.
You know, you can have that in the back of
your head. But I think in life, you're going to
experience everything for yourself. You compy.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
This is about to be a crazy not a crazy conspiracy,
but this is my conspiracy, and I want you to
listen to it. I want you to hear me and
hear me well. So if she if the government shut
down INDs and you know, whatever they're trying to do
now they're saying that we may go to be going
to war with Venezuela. You got to understand that in
(21:39):
the time of a war in America. In America, the
sitting president does not have to be removed. They do
not have an election because he continues to be the president.
They can drag this war on for who knows how
long if we get into a war, whether we win
or not, because we would know we're not boots on
the ground over there. And they're putting in the media
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of what they wanted to be because in doing a
doing a time of war, the city president remains the president.
Remember how excited he got about two months ago when
he acts like he had just found that out, because
he ain't just found that out. I'm telling you guys
right now, the mid terms are very important. But I
think they're going to do it by any means necess theory.
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They're going to try to get dismissed the mid terms
by going into war. So they're wanting to be no election.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I don't know. I think that Venezuela is certainly getting
they've had it with us, they're certainly getting ready. I mean,
the UK is no longer going to give us, going
to give us intel because they think us bombing all
the boats over in the Caribbean and down in that
area because of drugs. But we don't have really any
real documentation or information. We don't have Hirde facts for
(22:49):
sure on everything. They're like they don't want to be
involved in it. So I don't know. I mean, we're
ostracizing a lot of people. I mean, the UK is
they're like our best buddies if we kind of count
on them for intel. So I don't know. If he
hate to be would he like to be king for
the rest of his life? He would, But I also
think a lot of that's disraction talk, because I think
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that he likes to talk about that, So we talk
about it, and then we're not paying attention to all
the other stuff, like the Epstein files, like the fact
that he's getting himself in trouble. You know how sleepy Joe.
He didn't get in because he didn't reach out to
the people. And he kept saying, Oh, we're in a
good government. I mean a good economy because we were
(23:31):
in the best economy of the world. But he wasn't
listening to the people. What people are starting to complain.
He's like, this is the best economy. What are they
talking about? And I'm thinking, be careful. Donald's that's what
got the other one in trouble. So you better. You
know you're supposed to be relatable, you better keep being relatable.
He is talking about giving out rebate checks.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He has never been relatable, and statistically they did the thing.
It's impossible for him to give everybody two thousand dollars,
So it's all bullshit.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Bobby twice as much as he brought in. He's got
he wants and it's not going to be everybody. He's
not going to give it to the wealthy people, so
he's not going to give it. Somebody threw out an
amount of anybody that makes over one hundred thousand dollars,
so that is the real lower people. But it is
even if he gives it to that amount of people,
it's one hundred and eighty billion, according to CNN reporting
(24:21):
and News Nation than what he's collected. Like he keeps
promising things and we're only going to be Remember he
was going to bring the deficit down.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Because all he has to do is say it out
allowed two or three times, and the people his base
believes it. And so those ignorant people who will take
the time to understand what it is.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I mean, he's talking, or at least somebody on his
team is talking about fifty year mortgages so the young
people can buy buy a house. That doesn't even make
any sense. Fifty year more, you'd have to buy a
house in your twenties. They're not going to have the
kind of money.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And who wants to pay for a house for fifty
damn years.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, you would be paying in theory, you would be
paying probably well you want to pay it in thirty
years so that you have twenty years to save for retirement.
You'd be paying it almost your whole life, Although you
would be paying probably a rent or something. But it
doesn't make to make it more. How about fix the
economy stupid as the expression goes, and then if that
makes it a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
The economy is toasted. And we got too many people
out here that supposed to represent the Democratic Party saying
the wrong things and putting out the wrong information that
got people misgadded, which is why we're partially in the
situation that we are in. Bobby Clifford, it it really is, say,
it really really is saying. On a lighter note, On
a lighter note, I want to say thank you to
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all the servicemen and women of this country who have
served in the country, in the military, in any branch
of the military, because yesterday was Veterans Day, and I
love that. So many establishments, so many restaurants and everything
acknowledged veterans, give them free food, so many different things.
So I just want to say thank you to all
the vets for your service. You know, it's not a
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job that I ever want to I never wanted to
be in the military. I never wanted to serve in
that way. But thank God that there are people that
want to do it. Hopefully we will continuously get people
that want to do it, because from what this country
has showed us, they don't really look out good for
their veterans. So it it terns a lot of people
from wanting to do that, even though it's a steady job,
and in mere fact they're doing this government shut down,
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so many veterans and their families, or so many people
in the military and their families were standing in soup
kitchen lines and bread lines just to get food because
they were not getting paid. That is a deterrent that
will make people not join the military. So when we
are in a time of crisis and or war, we
won't have what we need because we already understand that
y'all ain't gonna fight for us, while the hell we're
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gonna fight for y'all. So yeah, I just don't think
that people value what the military is. Like Like when
we were younger, Bobby, it was like, oh, you're in
the Army, you're in the.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Marines, you're in the Native it was a career.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, and it was positive was looked at positively. You
go make something of yourself. You're going to be American,
you know, show you a Yeah, what is the word
I'm looking for Bob And that's it. That's it, and.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You go benefits. You got the VA loan. You could
go to school. Then, you know, for free or at
a discount, depending you could buy a house because you
got you got a lower interest rate. You did time,
but you got something out of it. I sent you
a link. Did you see. President Obama went on the
Freedom flight. Free flights are when they bring veterans from
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World War Two, although I don't think there are any anymore,
because they be in their late nineties Korea and Vietnam,
and they bring they put them on a flight, they
bring them to Washington. They show them all of the monuments,
explain how they came, what they are, blah blah blah.
And President Obama went on and that typical president. Hello, folks,
you know, I want to thank you. One guy says
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he was about ninety Holy shit. And then he said
this old man with his mouth gaping open, he couldn't
believe it. And another guy goes, no, way it was.
It was it was so hot warming. He touched all
of them and he explained that when you're when you
are president, they give you this box of and they
go with you. They are these coins, coins of appreciation
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for the military and you can give them out, and
that he decided that that's what he wanted to do.
One man said, the only president I ever got to
meet was Gerald Ford. Well Obama burst out laugh and
he says, well, can you imagine that?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Look at now it's me. One guy said, you handsome
fella to President Obama and he saluted them, and that
tickled President Obama was cute. They were so pleased and
touched and you appreciation.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That shows. What that shows is what leaders. I suppose
you just said it not to put people down, not
to discredit.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
You know, it might they not might have been in
service in the last five, ten, twenty years, but they
did serve, yes, and they served and you did not.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
But you tear everybody down. That blows me about the
sitting president that you know, if he would have done
something like that, he would have turned it around, say
so you see what I did for you guys, just anything.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
To take He would have charged her for the coins, right, well,
it would It's just different personalities. Somebody else I could
see doing this, although you know he's just doing the radiation.
Is Joe Biden. I was a little shocked. I said, God,
they would have been a dynamic duo. If they win it,
it'll call actually the floor. I would have loved have
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seeing Clinton, Bush, Biden and Obama do it. The other
one would never it's not his personality. They're in reverence
of the service that people did, and that's what And
that was his message. That was the first thing he said,
I really just want to say to you, thank you
for your service, because you know, we wouldn't be sitting here,
any of us today if it wasn't for you all.
And the people were touched. They came off and they said,
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you know, the guys from Vietnam, they spit on us,
they wooed us, he said, so to be able to
come back to Washington and and have an actual president
that took the time out of his day to come in,
you know, and to greet every one of us and
shake our hands. And he said, it was really really touching.
And you just said patriotism. This old man, big watery eyes,
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you look like a hound dog. God bless them, and
they're reeling them are But I want you to go
back and look at the clip now and you'll know
who I'm talking about. And he said, he was just
so touched. He goes, the idea goes, and what's even
nicer is when the people come off, they must advertise it.
Down in Washington, all sorts of just you like you
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and me, just citizens come and they clap for them.
He said. To think that there are still people who
have patriotism out there after what we've been seeing, He goes,
it's absolutely touching. You know, they were very pleased, Knife
and I thought, God, it was probably two hours out
of everybody's day, you know, a half hour to drive
a half hour home and to stand there and clap
for a half hour. God, we all could be a
little bit better and be and you know, to our
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veterans and please them a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Girl. It is I don't know, Bobby. I just think
the President Obama show such dignity and classic He's a
deal person. And I've heard even people who did not
care for him as a president because not just because
he was black, but just didn't think that. They have
so much adoration and respect for how he carries himself
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as one of the leaders because he was a world
leader when he was the president of the United States.
And I think they're really a Byer that especially compared
to some other people.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
No, I would say the same. I think Joe Biden
as well. I have heard people that might not like
him that everybody always appreciates the fifty years of service
because that's something and that you can say what you want.
They usually started like that about Joe Biden's politics. But
he is an inherently good man. You know, he will
try to do the best. He's compassionate, he cares about people.
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Maybe I don't agree with the way he goes about
it or whatever, but we have had some really decent,
some really decent presidents and then not so much. I
Sawtis Scotus, they are not. They had declined even revisiting
the same sex marriage president, which I loved because I
get to tell you something, when I saw the abortion
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one go down, I really had a fear that this
was and with all the trands stuff that has been happening,
I said, I got really nervous that this was going
to be the track we were going to take. So
I am absolutely thrilled to see they said we're not
even going to listen with the snap benefit, and people
were upset with that. No Justice Brown was correct. She
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couldn't she sent it back. She put it on pause
because the Second Circuit Court, I guess it is, they
have to finish their ruling first. She can't oh supersede them.
They have to back with the justification and once they
do that, then they can bring it back to the
Supreme Court. Hopefully everything will be resolved. Right, So she
was kind of passing the top. She was doing it
right in order.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Though.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You can't take this step until this step is complete.
So and then we wants Ejene Carroll, he wants them
to do that too.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah. Well, let me tell you what I'm so happy about,
what that gay marriage proposal, because although I am bisexual,
I would never marry a man. I would never marry
somebody with the same equipment as me because that's not
what makes me happy, and that's not discrediting from anyone else.
But what I have seen am I thirty nine years
of life wink wing. I've watched couples before gay marriage
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was legal in this country be together for fifteen twenty
twenty five years, build great fortunes together by property. But
because they didn't have that legal piece of paper binding
them together, when one passed away or one was injured,
the family will come in and take everything that they
together and the other person had no say. So I
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think that that marriage for gay mayor is so much
more than just I love you, you love me. It's
a protection that what we have built together, nobody can
just come in and take from us, because that's what
people does. And I'm glad by me that it was
shut down. I hope they don't bring it back up.
I know that's one of the things that they don't
want to do. And I need gay marriage to stay
legal because to me, as much as I love Gavin Newsom,
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but I don't want to lose him as the governor
of California. Pete boudageest is the most qualified person that
we have from the Democratic Party to be the president
right now. But they want to hold over his head
that he's gay. He's openly gay, he's never here, he's
married to a man. They look like they have a
good marriage, So I need that to stay good. Looking
If Aeron, if we ever going to get America to
accept him for what he is and not who he is,
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because who he is is probably going to be a
great leader. What he is, he's just a gay man.
But he's legally married, yes, and they So I'm glad
that that because it needs to shine a positive light
because had we lost that, it would look negative towards
Booty Jed's And I do think that people would concede
because Boody Judge is sharp. He carries hisself with dignity
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and respect. He's not you know, he's not out here
wilding out and everything. So I think he will change
minds and change votes. I do, and I.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Don't think it's just about so I'm happy for everything
that you just said, but being married isn't just even
about the finances. The family can come in and strip
them of making any decisions. I want to pull the plug.
If I'm the one that's been with you and taking
care of you through this disease, whatever it is that
took you out, and we're laying in a hospital bed
and we're sitting all together and you're not married, you
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get to make no decisions. The family can come in
and bury you with how they want. They can keep
you on life support even if that's not what you wanted.
You know, if you have the right to make decisions
for your spouse, for your life partner, and have everything
that you just said, have it, but this personal stuff
as well, And I don't like that because I know
I had a friend who's they wanted. They did never
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want to be on life support, not at all, and
the parents wanted they were this you know, big Bible
sumping Christians, and they wanted to leave them on as
in a vegetative steak for fifteen years, whatever it took.
And their partner was like no that. You know, they
were engaged and they didn't get married, and they that
person stayed on, thank god, not on life support long
(36:20):
they passed. But that I thought that wasn't right. This
person had been with them fifteen years. They should have
been able to make the decision and didn't get to
make decisions about the funeral, about anything.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Well, and this happened. It shows that love is love.
So I'm glad that they did the book. I was
righting with you. I think me and you discussed this
online before that. I was so afraid after they overturned
Row versus way that they would come in and just
denial of a marriage and marriage equality. So who's ever
on that side at the Supreme Court? That was the right.
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That was a decision that thank you. You think y'all
made a lot of mistakes lately, But to me, that
was a good one because that does not need to
be dissolved. People who should be able to love who
they want to love. And it's not your damn bi
business unless you're trying to sleep with me and you
know that. And a lot of people trying to sleep
with me.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Bobby, you dirty who.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Flying and swallow was there you Bobby called me? She
called me a dirty whore.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I mean they are. So that's one branch. But the military,
I mean, the big thing right now is they're saying
that women are being sidelined. We have no four star
generals right now. There was a woman who was supposed
to be taking over for the Navy seals, a purple
heart recipient. Nope, And so they're basically like squeezing her
out so that she's going to have to be retiring
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from the military and she had absolutely no intention. So
that would have been the next thing that they would
have come for, you know, it's the women for It
would have been when they did come from the women, first,
the abortion, and then it would have been gay marriage,
and then I think they would have just gone down
and try to strip us anything that they possibly could have.
They could have done. If you weren't, you know, a
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male and a white male, you would have had nothing.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I wondered could have passed for a white male? You
remember when Whoopy played a white male in that movie.
She dressed up.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
She was the one that just trucked me up and
I was like, what, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Did I pass? I wonder could I pass as a
white male? I hear that can't past as a black male?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Okay, Look, did you see JFK's grandson is going to
be running for one of the one of the house
seats in New York Jackson.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I think it said in Kennedy's blood to be in politics.
I just think it's in there. It's in their lineage.
I just think it's in their DNA service.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, they they are big into service. He has money,
so he doesn't have to worry. I will say he
was huge coming out against his cousin. Though huge coming
out his cousin. So it'll be interesting to see how
miserable RFK Junior makes it if if his his little
cousin gets in.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, while we're talking about New York, let me just
say shout out to money. Is it? Am I saying
that right? Is it money?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I way A many body. I'm not. I'm just staying
for on getting the male male, male male elect But
I'm telling you right now, I've been looking at the
backlash and the rule I am. I am petrified for
him because he's he's openly Muslim, and I don't think
that he's pushing the Muslim agenda. But I damn sure.
(39:31):
I don't think that he's hiding it. He's not hiding it.
And I'm telling you it's it's just it's going to
be it's going to come down to a religious fallout
because the Muslims and then there are so many Jewish
people in in New York and it's just, oh my god,
I'm like, Wow, he gon'll be serious to me.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
He's not anti jew, but he has said he has
said I don't want to say anti submitted. He said
some off collar stuff. And I think and I also,
I don't know how he paying for anything. Flame I don't.
I don't understand his policies. I can't see how he's
going to make them fiscally, how he's going to make
them work, other than you know, talking about it's nice,
(40:10):
but has that Has that happened?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Well, look, well look it's not working. The president did
the exact same thing, not one policy, but revenge. But
look what he's at. He's the president of the United States,
so amazing.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
He did run on that he was going to make revenge.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
You know he did.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
He did say that he was going to do exactly
what he's doing. I mean, he wants everybody to do jerrymandering.
So you know that that Prop fifty passed in in
California and he's looking to have all of the states.
Look President Trump is and switch it around, and that's
not the way it goes. Every ten years, everybody has
a shot. You do what you're doing during the census period,
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but you don't have all of these all of these
nutty changes made to our to our maps. I think
it's absolutely crazy. Or you do it like Gavin Newsom,
did you actually put it out for a vote, have
people vote on it, and then make the changes. Then
you know it's gonna get It can get tricky and
sticky for all of us.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah, to President Zelensky over in Ukraine, they are still
having a tough time over there. But when I tell
you that this man raichicious country. He loves his people,
he loves his position, and he is not backing down,
He's not running it is. It is barbaric the conditions
over there, and this war is still going back and
(41:34):
forth and back and forth. But that man said, I'm
not talking my tail between my legs. He is fighting
to the bitter end. I respect that. I admire that.
I want to be like that if I have to be,
and I'm listening, if everybody had the courage that this
man has to and the love of his country and
his people, and he's on the ground with the ass
I listen, that is aberrations. That is respect. His people
(41:56):
will love him, his country will always a mind.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
He goes anywhere, everywhere he goes flame. So here's the difference.
There was some sports gear. It was a football. Was
that the commander's the president Trump went. I guess they
booed him so loud that he was supposed to be giving.
He was supposed to be swearing in some troops and
they couldn't even hear. The buoying was so bad and
people were giving him the finger. I don't like that, though,
(42:21):
I mean, boom, Okay, then have it. He still is
the president of the United States. Whether you care for
him or you don't care for him. Giving him the
finger is disrespectful anyway.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
On the other side, howspect is given out.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I don't care. He's a piece of shit. It's the
figurehead of the position. It's not him, it's not the man.
It's there. You just don't give it to the President
of the United States. On the other hand, you have Zelenski,
and no matter what country this man goes into, they're
roaring with clapping and hugging and throwing flowers at him.
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And because he's just a good man, and because he
stands by what he says, and it is frigid. They're
in there. Their winters are different than anything you and
I have ever experienced in our lifetime. It is frigid
over there, and they have back to those like single
digit and below below zero below, and they're fighting, and
you're right, and he is right down there with him
(43:19):
in his black little outfit.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Let me shake son, col the cold I would I
would throw the white towel, the blue towel, the rear tack.
I do not like to be cold.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'd be I'd be throwing my dirty drawers out anything. No,
I'd probably wrap them around my head like a like
a turbane to keep myself warm when it's thirty below
like that is a cold that as I said, you
and I m it's it's just a cold that neither
one of us have ever have experienced, and I hope
we absolutely have. We don't again. So where are you going?
What are you doing? What is happening with you going forward?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Oh? Yeah, well, well I'm home because of the FAA.
Even though this shutdown is over, they're saying it's going
to take a minute for to get the airlines back
on track. My fear with all of that is they
gonna try to make up whatever money is they thought
they lost, which was going to raise the damn price
of tickets and travel, which is already high. I'm planning
on not going anywhere until I go to Cincinnati, Ohio
(44:20):
on December seventh for the Funny Bone and December the thirteenth,
that will be in New Orleans, Louisiana at the Civic Theater.
But if you're in LA on the Dolimity twenty second,
I will be in the at the Downy Theater. And
then on December to sixth, I'm hosting for Tiffany Hattish
at the Orpheum, who we just finished the twenty seventh
city tour and we got some other things coming up.
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I am just trying to stay close to home, Bobby,
because what I am, what I am, what I am
sure about is that I'm unsure about everything. I am
sure that I am unsure. That's the name of the episode.
I am sure that I am unsure because I am
sure and I don't know. Every day I turn on
the news, it's like, oh my god, what's going top.
It's like you spin the wheel on wheel of fortune.
You just never know where it's gonna fucking laying. And
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I'm scared. I'm sick of that that we don't internalize
that or we don't understand that that is a heavy
blanket on us, Bobby, as a country, because we don't
know where we're going every day we are we in
the war? Are they gonna stop the dollar? Is my
bank account gonna get shut down? Is electricity gonna get
you know? They had a rolling black house, and then
with all these natural disasters that seem to be happening
(45:26):
back to back to back to back to back, you
just I'm sure that I am unsure. But outside of that,
I'm just glad to be working, take care of my
of the family, and I'm gonna stay close to home
until it's a check man. When it's a check called me,
oh a bitch, goa answer. I don't blame you.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Tiffany does is it the funny Bone she serves out
Thanksgiving dinners? Doesn't she?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yes? At the laugh Factory.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
At the Laugh Factory. I'm just putting that out there
for anybody that might need a dinner that wants to
go down there, or I don't know.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
If you know you one year you volunteered.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
They do it all day. They do it all day.
So many celebrities come through and volunteer. Tim Allen always
comes because he's friends with Jamie Massida, who's the owner
of the Hollywood Laugh Factor. I think this year, you
know what, Bobby, I may go. I'm gonna cook dinner,
and I'm not an honored in honor of so many
people that I know who are on snap or EBT
(46:25):
or having a hard time financially. I Am not going
to cook a huge Thanksgiving dinner. It's just gonna be
a very regular dinner because I want to honor it.
That's my way of honoring them to say, hey, we
there's no need for us to go out out if
y'all can't. Girl, we're gonna have a roast and some
and some cabbage and that's it and some rice and
we're gonna go and serve food at the laugh Actor
like we did before, because I don't want.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I think when you would said that to me earlier
before we had this, that that that's what you were
gonna do. The eating. I thought of Tiffany and I went,
but then we got cut up, like we stopped the
call in and I'm like, she should be so and
the food, and I knew you had something with her
during that time you were hosting for her, but I
didn't know what the date. I didn't even know if
you were hosting for that, and then I meant to
(47:09):
ask you out. So I love that. I wish I
was doing something exciting. I have nothing, guys to tell
you that I'm doing exciting. But we appreciate you coming
and appreciate you listening, and we hosted. God that you
passed it to honors to a friend.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
And where can we follow you at Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
You could follow me at Life and Learn podcast on Instagram,
Clifford Bobby and Instagram, Bobby Clifford on TikTok and Facebook.
And how about you, my friends.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Before I give you what, you could follow me on
my social media handles. I just want to say, I
want to give a shout out to Biloxi, Mississippi. Even
though Birmingham, Alabama was our final date of the tour, Biluxi,
Mississippi showed up, showed out, showed the ass The energy
in the room was undeniable. The people came to enjoy
(47:55):
themselves and we get fire. Carlisle, Flame Unroe and Tiffany
Haddish gave it. Auti's exactly what they needed and the energy.
We always say the energy is transferable. Bobby, you could
feel the love. I couldn't see if one person in
front of my face because you know, blind is a
bad And then they had the room so dark, but
you could hear the lap. You could feel the energy.
(48:16):
It was like it jumped on you like a ghost.
It was great. So shout out to Biloxi, Mississippi and
the bou Revised River Resort. Beautiful spot, beautiful view of
the Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Oh, oh my god, was it gorgeous. That say that
was something and.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Tiffany had a sweet hobby. Was every window and it
just covered her. Whole room was windows. It was gorgeous.
But the audience and that the way the staff treated us,
it was one in one of the better ones. We
had other places like that, but Montana was like that.
But it just it was everything. All the components fit,
so I knew it was going to be a great show.
And thank you to all the twenty seven cities that
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came together to put us on for the Funny and
Feelings tour, and to everyone that came out to all
of these shows. Thank you. Thank you for the love,
thank you for the support, Thank you for your business.
Keep following us and you can follow me on Instagram
at Monroe Flame all other social media platforms. On Flame, Monroe, TikTok,
on Flame, Monroe one two five. We appreciate you, guys.
(49:13):
I know we've been off. We're gonna make up for
it because this is what we do. We are Americans
stuck in the same boat together. I just need y'all
to know that if the boat goes down, one side
will sink before the other side. But nevertheless, the entire
boat will sink. Can we not sink our boat? Can
we not sink our boat?
Speaker 1 (49:34):
No? Because I don't have a I don't have a life.
Ask that will keep me above water?
Speaker 3 (49:41):
They got.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
These flumpation devices.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
That's all like God mind, so Harry, they taking me
straight to the bottom of some Book's gonna have a
trainy snack. Thank you guys with really right. Thank you, Aaron.
We appreciate you. Get Bobby, thank you as always girl.
We five years in. Let's see what we're gonna do,
but we're still gonna go. And whatever we're gonna do,
(50:07):
we're gonna be right here to report to you on
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We are not afraid of anything, and we're not going
to attack you. What we want to do is learn
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from each other. So let's circulate it. Let's circulate it, okay.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
And what is the motto?
Speaker 3 (50:34):
And on that note, here at laugh and Learn five
years this model has not changed. I don't think it
can change, but damn it, it sounds so relevant right now
and here at Laugh a Learn, we are not trying
to get you to change your mind. We are only
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Your mind and your vote or a terrible thing to waste.
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And don't waste my time or your vote. Because y'all
see what we at and y'all see where we hit it.
We are trained headed to a brick wall with no breaks,
and it's a big old' orange thing right in the front.
It's not a sponge. It's gonna it's gonna hit first. Shit. Okay,
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to tape us.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Here's having our exact conversation that we're gonna be having.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
But we are two weeks out and we are glad
to be because I was on the road. It was
definitely my fault, and it was it was worked it
because I was on the road working. I did twenty
seven cities with Tiffany Haddish and Barbara Carlisle on the
funny and feel of his tour. And it's over, and
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Speaker 1 (02:18):
I know she's got another one next year, though, I
hope you're on that one because you always have a
great fun with her.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Did you miss me to it?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I always miss you. You don't miss me. I'm too
much for you.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Hey, girl, at your at your average. I think there
lists too much for everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So the tourist goods. The tour is over. Your party
was successful.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The party was successful. Thank you to well looked dark.
Let me turn the light on the other line. I
thank god for event Bright for prior chicken sales, because
then I wouldn't have to take her hit. So I
prefer event Bright because then I know, even if you
can't come, I get your moolah true.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And then you know people like me can If they
can't come, they could still they can still sponsor a ticket.
You can give it to somebody else that that doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It, or I can put the money in my purse.
Either way, well, by the Clifford. In the last two
weeks that we have had off, it has been quite
eventful in this country, from a government shut down, to
the planes being delayed, to the FAA lanoff workers, to
so many federal workers being furloughed or let go, to
(03:33):
just to just so many things, all all the while
the fsteon file still have not been released. Oh but
there is a silver lining inside of the cloud.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And we'll get to it. But we also have no
more Prince andro either now we have Andrew Mountbatten windsor he.
I guess Charles mcele liked the name that that Harry
and Meghan picked for themselves, because he just gave it
to his brother as well, unless that's the outcast name.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, Prince Andrew was allegedly or was found guilty right
of in messing around with something.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
No, no, the girl said he did. He said he
never did, but the people went wild. You know, the
people over there are no joke, so he stripped him.
I have to say, in some ways I feel a
certain way because you're born with a title. Do you
know what I mean? Like, how do you take the
title away? And he might not get any perks take
that away, but how do you take It's like taking
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your last name. I just don't know how you do it.
But anyway, he did and put him out of the house.
And I think William's moving into his house. And now
Sarah's got nowhere to live because even though they were divorced,
Sarah and Andrew they lived on the same property because
you know those properties, like fifteen thousand square feet. She
lived in her little section, he lived in his little section.
It was a whole Michiga. Since since you've been gone,
since you've been gone, Well.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I can't say that I feel bad for either of them.
If he divests around with an underaged girl. He deserved
to have his haynd Spain and Fergie did man telling
all the secrets.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So yeah, right, he was very was very forgiving of her. No,
you are right if he was found guilty, but I
don't I don't know if there's any proof, like you know,
all of this, like, let's put out this stuff. I
don't know why they're holding they're holding on and I
can't say her name correctly, it's the Arizona congress girl.
I've been calling her a congress lady. I've been calling
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it Atalita because I know that's her first name. But
I'm having trouble with the jay. I don't know somehow
would say the silent er. It makes a difference, it
makes a different vowel. I'm very embarrassed to say. I
can't say. I sound very waspy when I try to
say her last name. But she was. She was finally
sworn in, and supposedly next week Johnson is saying they're
going to have the vote on it. I don't understand.
(05:46):
I think there is more. It makes it more tantalizing,
and people think there's more in it than probably's what's
actually in it. I don't understand why just just put
the crap out. Let's move on. I'm so sick of
saying the word Epstein.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, here's the killing power Bobby. At this point, I
don't even think if they have a video of him
having when I say him, we're talking about the command
in chief having says with a KEYD is going to
change the mind of his follows because they are their
brainwashed and they're cut up with it, So I.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Don't I truly believe that he didn't. He didn't for
this particular thing. He didn't have anything to do with it. Supposedly,
Glenn Maxwell came out this is before she she actually
went into jail and whatnot and said that he doesn't
have there's nothing of him in any of these files.
Juliz's jerre Sewart said supposedly that he's not in the
(06:37):
And I think what his people with the MEGA people
are so off the wall about. It's not about him,
like they're thinking anything is going to have President Trump
in it, but they think there are huge power players
that are in there and they need to be exposed
and we need to either stop hold them accountable, but
stop buying their products. Stop, you know, like do something.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think that's Bobby, Bobby, you so white, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I'm super super lighte.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Let me tell you something, Bobby, if Trump was Trump
was not in that and other people was in that,
Trump would have released them fire on his own, Mama,
he would have.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I don't know. And you know why. You know why
I'm saying that because it's still self preservation. These are
his friends that back him, that pay his legal bills, that.
You know that the line his pockets that buy his product.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
But Bobby, all he had to do was they would
have got found guilty and then he would have acquit.
He would have pardoned everybody else. So then you know,
that's what I'm saying. If it wasn't detrimental to him,
it would have been released, no matter whether they would
have been embarrassed or not. He was just going to
party him like he just partied Ruley Giuliani and so
many others meadows, soorry for the over for the challenging,
(07:50):
the overturned, I mean the election of twenty twenty. Yeah,
it's bs. He would have he would have released his people.
So that's why I don't believe it. Bobby. I believe
he's all up in there.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I believe I believe that. I understand what you're saying.
But that's still the people us, you and I. We're
not going to pardon them. I'm not going to buy
if it's Chick fil A, And even though you know
I love me some Chick fil A, I'm not buying
Chick fil A ever again. I will never as much
as that chicken is delicious and melts in your mouth
and probably is loaded with them with every chemical in
(08:21):
the world. I'm not buying it again. They don't want
Those people want their pockets to be lined and they
want to be super rich. I don't think it's as
much about them going to jails of what they have
to lose. But if they just release this stuff, you
and I wouldn't even be having this conversation. I'm so
sick of talking about it, like I can't even tell
you it's just gone on for twenty years. This is
(08:43):
like bullshit.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I aystack to talk about it. I want it out,
I want to see it. I want to be nosy,
I want it exposed. I want to be all up
in it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I don't want to move on.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But nevertheless, the distractions of those state fowls has the
country in a tizzy. We have been in there rediculous
government shut down for forty days forty three, Well is
it forty three forty three? But I mean that's ending.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
So we had eight Democrats that from the Senate side
that moved over. It went to the House tonight. Six
Democrats from the House moved over. Two Republicans I believed
did not vote for it, and I think he could
only lose two.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Well, here's the outing, Bobby Clifford, Mina Johnson here, buddy, sorry,
here's the thing. Why Democrats did you even go and
do this and fight with this if you were going
to come see, I don't understand the wikns of the
party that yes, people are suffering, Yes, people are losing
(09:45):
their jobs. Yes, but if you don't stand ten toes
down and play hullball with them, they wi what they
want is this philibus to remove. Because of the philibusters
out of the way, they are pretty much able to
do whatever the hell they want to do and they
can't take it back. But Bobby and vice.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Versa, if we get in it's the house.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
It's the weakness of the Democratic Party that people are
losing faith. And what really blew my mind by because
you could not have told me that we were going
to conceive after last Tuesday blue wave. We had a
blue eye Tuesday, all these differency switched to blue and
in red states and red councils because people are sick
of it. So that was if that's indicative of what
(10:25):
we were going to be forced to I mean, facing
commit terms, Go Democrats, go America. But then for you
Democratic people who are in a position of power. You
folded like a goddamn card table. It just looks. It
makes us If you have to ask why.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think it's I think multiple things are happening. First off,
we you and I have spoken busts in the beginning.
We didn't want the government to shut down to begin with.
We would rather them work on it. Neither one of
us believed that anything was going to happen because we
had nothing to over them. Nothing was going to happen,
Nothing good was going to come from the shutdown to
begin with. Okay, so we got on board. We were
(11:06):
good party people, We got on board. We waited the
forty three days, people went without. We saw military, people
in food lines, you know, everything that's disgraceful that you
can possibly say, we watched it. And then for them
now to say, and the people who that have all
stepped over are not running in twenty twenty six, so
they're very clever for them now to say that, well,
(11:29):
nothing was going to come. Trump was never going to
sign off. This was it was never going to happen.
But it wasn't going to happen from the beginning, So
why would you shut down the government? It was fruitless
to shut down the government. So now they have it's
like talking to my ex husband about anything that was
important back in the day. We have a promise of
a potential discussion next month, which you know is never
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going to happen because it never happened with him either.
I mean, it's just ridiculous. And on the House side,
they're saying they're never going to vote for it. And
even if the Senate and the House voted for it,
Trump is never going to sign off on the ACA subsidies.
It's not going to happen. So what they're saying is, oh, well,
we can bring this up though again in January. Well,
(12:13):
everybody's everybody, including me. I get my healthcare right now
through ACA because I'm unemployed. My premium is going to
go from three hundred and fifty dollars a month to
seven hundred dollars a month. So everybody's all of our
our premiums already. And by the way, just to be
completely transparent, everybody's healthcare is going up, not just the ACA, everybody.
(12:37):
That's a whole other thing. Our healthcare system for insurance
is so broken. The health care insurance companies keep making
more and more They want the hospitals to keep their
costs down as much as they possibly can, and the
only saying are the stakeholders are getting richer, We're not
getting anything more on our end. So that's what they
actually need to fix and debate on. But January, when
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the day comes that we need to have this, this
another cr signed off, they're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Then I just thought, I don't I don't say it's
it's a it's a smoking mirrors. It's all bullshit because
they haven't come through with any of the other promises
except for what they want to do with their Project
twenty twenty five. But anything that's going to be helping
the American people, they haven't come through with it. It's
all bullshit. And I'm gonna tell you, Bobby that some
of these Democrats really have shown their hand. Because who
surprised me a lot. Was fedament when Fetterman conceded, after
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he had the strokes and all the whatever the whoop,
the deupes, he had, every Democrats prayed for him, We
all was looking out for he came back. We thought
it was like an American story. And then for you
to go flip talk some wee people are hungry. But
you knew what they what you all were facing, what
we were facing when you decided to agree to this guy.
Damn shut down.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
But he for him from the beginning. Let let I'm
glad of you were saying, fetament, I'm not mad if
I'm not mad at Feedterman. And I'll tell you why.
From the beginning he wasn't shut it down. He never
signed off on the shutdown. He said, I am paid
to be in working for my people. That's what I'm
paid to do. He said, it's up to they're in
power now. They have the right to do whatever they're
going to do, whether it hurts the people or not,
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and it's up to our side to sit and negotiate
and have conversations with them. So he never he didn't flip.
He said from the beginning, he remember there were two
of them, there was an independent in him. He said,
I am not down with the government shutdown. His fear
was it was going to give Trump more power, because
if if the government shuts down and certain things have
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to happen, the way that our constitution is, it falls
back on the executive branch to make all the decisions.
And he was so afraid that Trump was going to
strip everything. He felt that Congress was just seeding too
much power to the executive branch and he wasn't down
for it from the beginning. These other ones that I'm
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shocked this, Catherine Cortes Mastro from Nevada, Dick Durban from Illinois,
Maggie has signed from the Hampshire. I'm just I'm just
shocked him came from Virginia. All these other ones that flipped,
I don't know. We were given a number of the House.
There are six. I don't know who they actually are
though them, I especially Jeene Shaheen, like I'm shocked. She
(15:17):
came right out and said, oh no, you know we're
not We're gonna stand strong. We're not giving up where this,
that and the other. And then she flips, what the
hell did you just sign on for the for the shutdown?
It makes no.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Sense, Bobby, Let me chase someone. When they get the
flipping like that, when they adamitt about it, sometimes I
think that they have had been threatened or what have
you conspiracy with? Dig Derbin from Illinois because I'm from Illinois,
so I've been known about Dick Derving a long time.
He has always been on the teeter tater. He is
always wishy washy, so they don't even surprise me about him.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I don't know anything about him.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I just know here.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I was a little surprised. I think what's happening is well,
first of all, they're constituents are or screaming, you know,
and because they are going with some money and they're
going without whatever and they can't take it. I think
they thought something would happen by now, but it's not
going to happen. I think that the GOP would have
been because they're blaming the whole shutdown on the Dems. Anyway,
they would have been thrilled if people couldn't go with
(16:16):
with you know, in two weeks we have Thanksgiving and
people couldn't travel. They would have loved it. Would all
women in jumped on us. All I can say is
if we could package U this correctly, if the Democrats
can package us correctly, and if it doesn't get signed
off in January, say listen, look in good faith, we
flipped it and gave them what they wanted, and they're
(16:39):
still holding you guys. You know, they're still letting, letting
your premiums go up and there's still they're going to
hold the snap benefits because I don't think in January
it's going to be any different. Well, this is gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You said, they're like you like they care even if
they don't do it. The Republicans are not going to care.
And now they're like, they're not going to care. And
but what the people are gonna do? Vote?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Vote because we gotta we got another year to vote. Then,
I mean, we just did it. We did We did
just show them something. So I mean, well, we're gonna
have to say, I don't know, We're gonna have to
we have to figure it out because this is crazy
where you at?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay, Okay, here I come. I'm happy with Bobbie, keep talking.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I'm happy to see that the air travel will get
better because I know from you your your flights got
canceled or initiation, you had to travel, you had to
travel to get to get flights. So I you know,
I want to see that start to open up because
we had, you know, they were canceling flights at a percentage.
I think we were up to eight percent supposedly by
by Thanksgiving, and I hope that that all goes away
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and we have people back to work.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Me too, Joanna. Oh, keep going byby, I'm listening. Oh
you know what I do want to talk about. Dick
Cheney died.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
He did die, and do you know they were playing
they were playing his lost on I believe it was CNN,
his lost message to the people, and it was a
couple of years ago. I think it was twenty twenty
two or twenty twenty three, and he was day customed
how dangerous he was saying. Trump was, if there's anything
(18:23):
that we can possibly do, please keep him out. And
I thought, isn't that interesting? You know, I figured he
would have been a little bit more on his side,
but absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah. Interesting, Well, you know, Bobby, I think the only
reason that rest in peace. They changing. But the only
reason he said that to try to give a warning
was because he knew that his days was numbered. So
because had he been in health, this is my belief
from what from his history, his track record, Girl, he
would have been right over there with him, He would
have he would have.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Been with I can't believe he made it to eighty four.
Remember he had that massive heart attackle he was, he
was like a savage. He kept he kept going and working,
and and meanwhile having his head. His heart was all shredded,
so he was he was quite. He was quite an
interesting fellow, didn't he is this neither the ass?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes, according to his track worker, his heart was shredded
long before it got shredded. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Probably. And you know who else died? Diane Ladd?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Diane Lad and so did some actress today yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't recognize her. Isn't it
awful that i'd been? I had her on and then
I'm like, I don't know any of the stuff she did.
She was in some real old, old old timy movies.
But I didn't. I didn't recognize her. But Dane Lett
had had a nice life. I think she had a
stroke like five or six years ago, still working right
up to the end. Some of these people, that's gonna
be you. Yeah, let me give you, let me give
(19:51):
you one more, one more joke before you close the.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Lid, and right on and THEO sit my big ass
on the box, It'll be gone. Bobby Air Travel was Barbaria.
They canceled our flight from Alabama, so we had to
drive from Alabama to advantage I think it's the smaller
hubs that were getting canceled first, but because the major
hubs were getting some of the flights out, but they
You really do have to experience it for yourself because
(20:15):
we were warned that the Atlanta Hartsfield Airport it took
four hours just to get through security. It took us
six minutes. You have to say, yeah, there are show
videos of people in line for hours and barbera lines,
but you have to get there for yourself and experience
it because it's not what you think. A lot of
this stuff is AI and a lot of this stuff
I think it's pushed out here to agitate the American
(20:37):
people and instigate a lot of bullshit. So just some
things you have to go through for yourself or take
the word of somebody that you trust, not necessarily the media,
because the media has really changed to they are saying
exactly what they want them to stay or they are
disappearing off of the airways.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It is it's flickbab. I think I feel that anyway.
I think you because sometimes you'll have somebody say, oh,
watch out for so and so they're this or they're that,
and you've got to experience it. Yourself maybe to them
and then you go and meet them and they're completely lovely.
You know, you can have that in the back of
your head. But I think in life, you're going to
experience everything for yourself. You compy.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
This is about to be a crazy not a crazy conspiracy,
but this is my conspiracy, and I want you to
listen to it. I want you to hear me and
hear me well. So if she if the government shut
down INDs and you know, whatever they're trying to do
now they're saying that we may go to be going
to war with Venezuela. You got to understand that in
(21:39):
the time of a war in America. In America, the
sitting president does not have to be removed. They do
not have an election because he continues to be the president.
They can drag this war on for who knows how
long if we get into a war, whether we win
or not, because we would know we're not boots on
the ground over there. And they're putting in the media
(22:00):
of what they wanted to be because in doing a
doing a time of war, the city president remains the president.
Remember how excited he got about two months ago when
he acts like he had just found that out, because
he ain't just found that out. I'm telling you guys
right now, the mid terms are very important. But I
think they're going to do it by any means necess theory.
(22:21):
They're going to try to get dismissed the mid terms
by going into war. So they're wanting to be no election.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I don't know. I think that Venezuela is certainly getting
they've had it with us, they're certainly getting ready. I mean,
the UK is no longer going to give us, going
to give us intel because they think us bombing all
the boats over in the Caribbean and down in that
area because of drugs. But we don't have really any
real documentation or information. We don't have Hirde facts for
(22:49):
sure on everything. They're like they don't want to be
involved in it. So I don't know. I mean, we're
ostracizing a lot of people. I mean, the UK is
they're like our best buddies if we kind of count
on them for intel. So I don't know. If he
hate to be would he like to be king for
the rest of his life? He would, But I also
think a lot of that's disraction talk, because I think
(23:10):
that he likes to talk about that, So we talk
about it, and then we're not paying attention to all
the other stuff, like the Epstein files, like the fact
that he's getting himself in trouble. You know how sleepy Joe.
He didn't get in because he didn't reach out to
the people. And he kept saying, Oh, we're in a
good government. I mean a good economy because we were
(23:31):
in the best economy of the world. But he wasn't
listening to the people. What people are starting to complain.
He's like, this is the best economy. What are they
talking about? And I'm thinking, be careful. Donald's that's what
got the other one in trouble. So you better. You
know you're supposed to be relatable, you better keep being relatable.
He is talking about giving out rebate checks.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He has never been relatable, and statistically they did the thing.
It's impossible for him to give everybody two thousand dollars,
So it's all bullshit.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Bobby twice as much as he brought in. He's got
he wants and it's not going to be everybody. He's
not going to give it to the wealthy people, so
he's not going to give it. Somebody threw out an
amount of anybody that makes over one hundred thousand dollars,
so that is the real lower people. But it is
even if he gives it to that amount of people,
it's one hundred and eighty billion, according to CNN reporting
(24:21):
and News Nation than what he's collected. Like he keeps
promising things and we're only going to be Remember he
was going to bring the deficit down.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Because all he has to do is say it out
allowed two or three times, and the people his base
believes it. And so those ignorant people who will take
the time to understand what it is.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I mean, he's talking, or at least somebody on his
team is talking about fifty year mortgages so the young
people can buy buy a house. That doesn't even make
any sense. Fifty year more, you'd have to buy a
house in your twenties. They're not going to have the
kind of money.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And who wants to pay for a house for fifty
damn years.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, you would be paying in theory, you would be
paying probably well you want to pay it in thirty
years so that you have twenty years to save for retirement.
You'd be paying it almost your whole life, Although you
would be paying probably a rent or something. But it
doesn't make to make it more. How about fix the
economy stupid as the expression goes, and then if that
makes it a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
The economy is toasted. And we got too many people
out here that supposed to represent the Democratic Party saying
the wrong things and putting out the wrong information that
got people misgadded, which is why we're partially in the
situation that we are in. Bobby Clifford, it it really is, say,
it really really is saying. On a lighter note, On
a lighter note, I want to say thank you to
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all the servicemen and women of this country who have
served in the country, in the military, in any branch
of the military, because yesterday was Veterans Day, and I
love that. So many establishments, so many restaurants and everything
acknowledged veterans, give them free food, so many different things.
So I just want to say thank you to all
the vets for your service. You know, it's not a
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job that I ever want to I never wanted to
be in the military. I never wanted to serve in
that way. But thank God that there are people that
want to do it. Hopefully we will continuously get people
that want to do it, because from what this country
has showed us, they don't really look out good for
their veterans. So it it terns a lot of people
from wanting to do that, even though it's a steady job,
and in mere fact they're doing this government shut down,
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so many veterans and their families, or so many people
in the military and their families were standing in soup
kitchen lines and bread lines just to get food because
they were not getting paid. That is a deterrent that
will make people not join the military. So when we
are in a time of crisis and or war, we
won't have what we need because we already understand that
y'all ain't gonna fight for us, while the hell we're
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gonna fight for y'all. So yeah, I just don't think
that people value what the military is. Like Like when
we were younger, Bobby, it was like, oh, you're in
the Army, you're in the.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Marines, you're in the Native it was a career.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, and it was positive was looked at positively. You
go make something of yourself. You're going to be American,
you know, show you a Yeah, what is the word
I'm looking for Bob And that's it. That's it, and.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You go benefits. You got the VA loan. You could
go to school. Then, you know, for free or at
a discount, depending you could buy a house because you
got you got a lower interest rate. You did time,
but you got something out of it. I sent you
a link. Did you see. President Obama went on the
Freedom flight. Free flights are when they bring veterans from
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World War Two, although I don't think there are any anymore,
because they be in their late nineties Korea and Vietnam,
and they bring they put them on a flight, they
bring them to Washington. They show them all of the monuments,
explain how they came, what they are, blah blah blah.
And President Obama went on and that typical president. Hello, folks,
you know, I want to thank you. One guy says
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he was about ninety Holy shit. And then he said
this old man with his mouth gaping open, he couldn't
believe it. And another guy goes, no, way it was.
It was it was so hot warming. He touched all
of them and he explained that when you're when you
are president, they give you this box of and they
go with you. They are these coins, coins of appreciation
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for the military and you can give them out, and
that he decided that that's what he wanted to do.
One man said, the only president I ever got to
meet was Gerald Ford. Well Obama burst out laugh and
he says, well, can you imagine that?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Look at now it's me. One guy said, you handsome
fella to President Obama and he saluted them, and that
tickled President Obama was cute. They were so pleased and
touched and you appreciation.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That shows. What that shows is what leaders. I suppose
you just said it not to put people down, not
to discredit.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
You know, it might they not might have been in
service in the last five, ten, twenty years, but they
did serve, yes, and they served and you did not.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
But you tear everybody down. That blows me about the
sitting president that you know, if he would have done
something like that, he would have turned it around, say
so you see what I did for you guys, just anything.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
To take He would have charged her for the coins, right, well,
it would It's just different personalities. Somebody else I could
see doing this, although you know he's just doing the radiation.
Is Joe Biden. I was a little shocked. I said, God,
they would have been a dynamic duo. If they win it,
it'll call actually the floor. I would have loved have
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seeing Clinton, Bush, Biden and Obama do it. The other
one would never it's not his personality. They're in reverence
of the service that people did, and that's what And
that was his message. That was the first thing he said,
I really just want to say to you, thank you
for your service, because you know, we wouldn't be sitting here,
any of us today if it wasn't for you all.
And the people were touched. They came off and they said,
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you know, the guys from Vietnam, they spit on us,
they wooed us, he said, so to be able to
come back to Washington and and have an actual president
that took the time out of his day to come in,
you know, and to greet every one of us and
shake our hands. And he said, it was really really touching.
And you just said patriotism. This old man, big watery eyes,
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you look like a hound dog. God bless them, and
they're reeling them are But I want you to go
back and look at the clip now and you'll know
who I'm talking about. And he said, he was just
so touched. He goes, the idea goes, and what's even
nicer is when the people come off, they must advertise it.
Down in Washington, all sorts of just you like you
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and me, just citizens come and they clap for them.
He said. To think that there are still people who
have patriotism out there after what we've been seeing, He goes,
it's absolutely touching. You know, they were very pleased, Knife
and I thought, God, it was probably two hours out
of everybody's day, you know, a half hour to drive
a half hour home and to stand there and clap
for a half hour. God, we all could be a
little bit better and be and you know, to our
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veterans and please them a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Girl. It is I don't know, Bobby. I just think
the President Obama show such dignity and classic He's a
deal person. And I've heard even people who did not
care for him as a president because not just because
he was black, but just didn't think that. They have
so much adoration and respect for how he carries himself
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as one of the leaders because he was a world
leader when he was the president of the United States.
And I think they're really a Byer that especially compared
to some other people.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
No, I would say the same. I think Joe Biden
as well. I have heard people that might not like
him that everybody always appreciates the fifty years of service
because that's something and that you can say what you want.
They usually started like that about Joe Biden's politics. But
he is an inherently good man. You know, he will
try to do the best. He's compassionate, he cares about people.
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Maybe I don't agree with the way he goes about
it or whatever, but we have had some really decent,
some really decent presidents and then not so much. I
Sawtis Scotus, they are not. They had declined even revisiting
the same sex marriage president, which I loved because I
get to tell you something, when I saw the abortion
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one go down, I really had a fear that this
was and with all the trands stuff that has been happening,
I said, I got really nervous that this was going
to be the track we were going to take. So
I am absolutely thrilled to see they said we're not
even going to listen with the snap benefit, and people
were upset with that. No Justice Brown was correct. She
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couldn't she sent it back. She put it on pause
because the Second Circuit Court, I guess it is, they
have to finish their ruling first. She can't oh supersede them.
They have to back with the justification and once they
do that, then they can bring it back to the
Supreme Court. Hopefully everything will be resolved. Right, So she
was kind of passing the top. She was doing it
right in order.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Though.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You can't take this step until this step is complete.
So and then we wants Ejene Carroll, he wants them
to do that too.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah. Well, let me tell you what I'm so happy about,
what that gay marriage proposal, because although I am bisexual,
I would never marry a man. I would never marry
somebody with the same equipment as me because that's not
what makes me happy, and that's not discrediting from anyone else.
But what I have seen am I thirty nine years
of life wink wing. I've watched couples before gay marriage
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was legal in this country be together for fifteen twenty
twenty five years, build great fortunes together by property. But
because they didn't have that legal piece of paper binding
them together, when one passed away or one was injured,
the family will come in and take everything that they
together and the other person had no say. So I
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think that that marriage for gay mayor is so much
more than just I love you, you love me. It's
a protection that what we have built together, nobody can
just come in and take from us, because that's what
people does. And I'm glad by me that it was
shut down. I hope they don't bring it back up.
I know that's one of the things that they don't
want to do. And I need gay marriage to stay
legal because to me, as much as I love Gavin Newsom,
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but I don't want to lose him as the governor
of California. Pete boudageest is the most qualified person that
we have from the Democratic Party to be the president
right now. But they want to hold over his head
that he's gay. He's openly gay, he's never here, he's
married to a man. They look like they have a
good marriage, So I need that to stay good. Looking
If Aeron, if we ever going to get America to
accept him for what he is and not who he is,
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because who he is is probably going to be a
great leader. What he is, he's just a gay man.
But he's legally married, yes, and they So I'm glad
that that because it needs to shine a positive light
because had we lost that, it would look negative towards
Booty Jed's And I do think that people would concede
because Boody Judge is sharp. He carries hisself with dignity
(35:08):
and respect. He's not you know, he's not out here
wilding out and everything. So I think he will change
minds and change votes. I do, and I.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Don't think it's just about so I'm happy for everything
that you just said, but being married isn't just even
about the finances. The family can come in and strip
them of making any decisions. I want to pull the plug.
If I'm the one that's been with you and taking
care of you through this disease, whatever it is that
took you out, and we're laying in a hospital bed
and we're sitting all together and you're not married, you
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get to make no decisions. The family can come in
and bury you with how they want. They can keep
you on life support even if that's not what you wanted.
You know, if you have the right to make decisions
for your spouse, for your life partner, and have everything
that you just said, have it, but this personal stuff
as well, And I don't like that because I know
I had a friend who's they wanted. They did never
(35:59):
want to be on life support, not at all, and
the parents wanted they were this you know, big Bible
sumping Christians, and they wanted to leave them on as
in a vegetative steak for fifteen years, whatever it took.
And their partner was like no that. You know, they
were engaged and they didn't get married, and they that
person stayed on, thank god, not on life support long
(36:20):
they passed. But that I thought that wasn't right. This
person had been with them fifteen years. They should have
been able to make the decision and didn't get to
make decisions about the funeral, about anything.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Well, and this happened. It shows that love is love.
So I'm glad that they did the book. I was
righting with you. I think me and you discussed this
online before that. I was so afraid after they overturned
Row versus way that they would come in and just
denial of a marriage and marriage equality. So who's ever
on that side at the Supreme Court? That was the right.
(36:53):
That was a decision that thank you. You think y'all
made a lot of mistakes lately, But to me, that
was a good one because that does not need to
be dissolved. People who should be able to love who
they want to love. And it's not your damn bi
business unless you're trying to sleep with me and you
know that. And a lot of people trying to sleep
with me.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Bobby, you dirty who.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Flying and swallow was there you Bobby called me? She
called me a dirty whore.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I mean they are. So that's one branch. But the military,
I mean, the big thing right now is they're saying
that women are being sidelined. We have no four star
generals right now. There was a woman who was supposed
to be taking over for the Navy seals, a purple
heart recipient. Nope, And so they're basically like squeezing her
out so that she's going to have to be retiring
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from the military and she had absolutely no intention. So
that would have been the next thing that they would
have come for, you know, it's the women for It
would have been when they did come from the women, first,
the abortion, and then it would have been gay marriage,
and then I think they would have just gone down
and try to strip us anything that they possibly could have.
They could have done. If you weren't, you know, a
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male and a white male, you would have had nothing.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I wondered could have passed for a white male? You
remember when Whoopy played a white male in that movie.
She dressed up.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
She was the one that just trucked me up and
I was like, what, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Did I pass? I wonder could I pass as a
white male? I hear that can't past as a black male?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Okay, Look, did you see JFK's grandson is going to
be running for one of the one of the house
seats in New York Jackson.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I think it said in Kennedy's blood to be in politics.
I just think it's in there. It's in their lineage.
I just think it's in their DNA service.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, they they are big into service. He has money,
so he doesn't have to worry. I will say he
was huge coming out against his cousin. Though huge coming
out his cousin. So it'll be interesting to see how
miserable RFK Junior makes it if if his his little
cousin gets in.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, while we're talking about New York, let me just
say shout out to money. Is it? Am I saying
that right? Is it money?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I way A many body. I'm not. I'm just staying
for on getting the male male, male male elect But
I'm telling you right now, I've been looking at the
backlash and the rule I am. I am petrified for
him because he's he's openly Muslim, and I don't think
that he's pushing the Muslim agenda. But I damn sure.
(39:31):
I don't think that he's hiding it. He's not hiding it.
And I'm telling you it's it's just it's going to
be it's going to come down to a religious fallout
because the Muslims and then there are so many Jewish
people in in New York and it's just, oh my god,
I'm like, Wow, he gon'll be serious to me.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
He's not anti jew, but he has said he has
said I don't want to say anti submitted. He said
some off collar stuff. And I think and I also,
I don't know how he paying for anything. Flame I don't.
I don't understand his policies. I can't see how he's
going to make them fiscally, how he's going to make
them work, other than you know, talking about it's nice,
(40:10):
but has that Has that happened?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Well, look, well look it's not working. The president did
the exact same thing, not one policy, but revenge. But
look what he's at. He's the president of the United States,
so amazing.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
He did run on that he was going to make revenge.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
You know he did.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
He did say that he was going to do exactly
what he's doing. I mean, he wants everybody to do jerrymandering.
So you know that that Prop fifty passed in in
California and he's looking to have all of the states.
Look President Trump is and switch it around, and that's
not the way it goes. Every ten years, everybody has
a shot. You do what you're doing during the census period,
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but you don't have all of these all of these
nutty changes made to our to our maps. I think
it's absolutely crazy. Or you do it like Gavin Newsom,
did you actually put it out for a vote, have
people vote on it, and then make the changes. Then
you know it's gonna get It can get tricky and
sticky for all of us.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah, to President Zelensky over in Ukraine, they are still
having a tough time over there. But when I tell
you that this man raichicious country. He loves his people,
he loves his position, and he is not backing down,
He's not running it is. It is barbaric the conditions
over there, and this war is still going back and
(41:34):
forth and back and forth. But that man said, I'm
not talking my tail between my legs. He is fighting
to the bitter end. I respect that. I admire that.
I want to be like that if I have to be,
and I'm listening, if everybody had the courage that this
man has to and the love of his country and
his people, and he's on the ground with the ass
I listen, that is aberrations. That is respect. His people
(41:56):
will love him, his country will always a mind.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
He goes anywhere, everywhere he goes flame. So here's the difference.
There was some sports gear. It was a football. Was
that the commander's the president Trump went. I guess they
booed him so loud that he was supposed to be giving.
He was supposed to be swearing in some troops and
they couldn't even hear. The buoying was so bad and
people were giving him the finger. I don't like that, though,
(42:21):
I mean, boom, Okay, then have it. He still is
the president of the United States. Whether you care for
him or you don't care for him. Giving him the
finger is disrespectful anyway.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
On the other side, howspect is given out.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I don't care. He's a piece of shit. It's the
figurehead of the position. It's not him, it's not the man.
It's there. You just don't give it to the President
of the United States. On the other hand, you have Zelenski,
and no matter what country this man goes into, they're
roaring with clapping and hugging and throwing flowers at him.
(42:58):
And because he's just a good man, and because he
stands by what he says, and it is frigid. They're
in there. Their winters are different than anything you and
I have ever experienced in our lifetime. It is frigid
over there, and they have back to those like single
digit and below below zero below, and they're fighting, and
you're right, and he is right down there with him
(43:19):
in his black little outfit.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Let me shake son, col the cold I would I
would throw the white towel, the blue towel, the rear tack.
I do not like to be cold.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'd be I'd be throwing my dirty drawers out anything. No,
I'd probably wrap them around my head like a like
a turbane to keep myself warm when it's thirty below
like that is a cold that as I said, you
and I m it's it's just a cold that neither
one of us have ever have experienced, and I hope
we absolutely have. We don't again. So where are you going?
What are you doing? What is happening with you going forward?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Oh? Yeah, well, well I'm home because of the FAA.
Even though this shutdown is over, they're saying it's going
to take a minute for to get the airlines back
on track. My fear with all of that is they
gonna try to make up whatever money is they thought
they lost, which was going to raise the damn price
of tickets and travel, which is already high. I'm planning
on not going anywhere until I go to Cincinnati, Ohio
(44:20):
on December seventh for the Funny Bone and December the thirteenth,
that will be in New Orleans, Louisiana at the Civic Theater.
But if you're in LA on the Dolimity twenty second,
I will be in the at the Downy Theater. And
then on December to sixth, I'm hosting for Tiffany Hattish
at the Orpheum, who we just finished the twenty seventh
city tour and we got some other things coming up.
(44:41):
I am just trying to stay close to home, Bobby,
because what I am, what I am, what I am
sure about is that I'm unsure about everything. I am
sure that I am unsure. That's the name of the episode.
I am sure that I am unsure because I am
sure and I don't know. Every day I turn on
the news, it's like, oh my god, what's going top.
It's like you spin the wheel on wheel of fortune.
You just never know where it's gonna fucking laying. And
(45:03):
I'm scared. I'm sick of that that we don't internalize
that or we don't understand that that is a heavy
blanket on us, Bobby, as a country, because we don't
know where we're going every day we are we in
the war? Are they gonna stop the dollar? Is my
bank account gonna get shut down? Is electricity gonna get
you know? They had a rolling black house, and then
with all these natural disasters that seem to be happening
(45:26):
back to back to back to back to back, you
just I'm sure that I am unsure. But outside of that,
I'm just glad to be working, take care of my
of the family, and I'm gonna stay close to home
until it's a check man. When it's a check called me,
oh a bitch, goa answer. I don't blame you.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Tiffany does is it the funny Bone she serves out
Thanksgiving dinners? Doesn't she?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yes? At the laugh Factory.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
At the Laugh Factory. I'm just putting that out there
for anybody that might need a dinner that wants to
go down there, or I don't know.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
If you know you one year you volunteered.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
They do it all day. They do it all day.
So many celebrities come through and volunteer. Tim Allen always
comes because he's friends with Jamie Massida, who's the owner
of the Hollywood Laugh Factor. I think this year, you
know what, Bobby, I may go. I'm gonna cook dinner,
and I'm not an honored in honor of so many
people that I know who are on snap or EBT
(46:25):
or having a hard time financially. I Am not going
to cook a huge Thanksgiving dinner. It's just gonna be
a very regular dinner because I want to honor it.
That's my way of honoring them to say, hey, we
there's no need for us to go out out if
y'all can't. Girl, we're gonna have a roast and some
and some cabbage and that's it and some rice and
we're gonna go and serve food at the laugh Actor
like we did before, because I don't want.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
I think when you would said that to me earlier
before we had this, that that that's what you were
gonna do. The eating. I thought of Tiffany and I went,
but then we got cut up, like we stopped the
call in and I'm like, she should be so and
the food, and I knew you had something with her
during that time you were hosting for her, but I
didn't know what the date. I didn't even know if
you were hosting for that, and then I meant to
(47:09):
ask you out. So I love that. I wish I
was doing something exciting. I have nothing, guys to tell
you that I'm doing exciting. But we appreciate you coming
and appreciate you listening, and we hosted. God that you
passed it to honors to a friend.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
And where can we follow you at Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
You could follow me at Life and Learn podcast on Instagram,
Clifford Bobby and Instagram, Bobby Clifford on TikTok and Facebook.
And how about you, my friends.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Before I give you what, you could follow me on
my social media handles. I just want to say, I
want to give a shout out to Biloxi, Mississippi. Even
though Birmingham, Alabama was our final date of the tour, Biluxi,
Mississippi showed up, showed out, showed the ass The energy
in the room was undeniable. The people came to enjoy
(47:55):
themselves and we get fire. Carlisle, Flame Unroe and Tiffany
Haddish gave it. Auti's exactly what they needed and the energy.
We always say the energy is transferable. Bobby, you could
feel the love. I couldn't see if one person in
front of my face because you know, blind is a
bad And then they had the room so dark, but
you could hear the lap. You could feel the energy.
(48:16):
It was like it jumped on you like a ghost.
It was great. So shout out to Biloxi, Mississippi and
the bou Revised River Resort. Beautiful spot, beautiful view of
the Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Oh, oh my god, was it gorgeous. That say that
was something and.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Tiffany had a sweet hobby. Was every window and it
just covered her. Whole room was windows. It was gorgeous.
But the audience and that the way the staff treated us,
it was one in one of the better ones. We
had other places like that, but Montana was like that.
But it just it was everything. All the components fit,
so I knew it was going to be a great show.
And thank you to all the twenty seven cities that
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came together to put us on for the Funny and
Feelings tour, and to everyone that came out to all
of these shows. Thank you. Thank you for the love,
thank you for the support, Thank you for your business.
Keep following us and you can follow me on Instagram
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on Flame, Monroe one two five. We appreciate you, guys.
(49:13):
I know we've been off. We're gonna make up for
it because this is what we do. We are Americans
stuck in the same boat together. I just need y'all
to know that if the boat goes down, one side
will sink before the other side. But nevertheless, the entire
boat will sink. Can we not sink our boat? Can
we not sink our boat?
Speaker 1 (49:34):
No? Because I don't have a I don't have a life.
Ask that will keep me above water?
Speaker 3 (49:41):
They got.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
These flumpation devices.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
That's all like God mind, so Harry, they taking me
straight to the bottom of some Book's gonna have a
trainy snack. Thank you guys with really right. Thank you, Aaron.
We appreciate you. Get Bobby, thank you as always girl.
We five years in. Let's see what we're gonna do,
but we're still gonna go. And whatever we're gonna do,
(50:07):
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to attack you. What we want to do is learn
(50:27):
from each other. So let's circulate it. Let's circulate it, okay.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
And what is the motto?
Speaker 3 (50:34):
And on that note, here at laugh and Learn five
years this model has not changed. I don't think it
can change, but damn it, it sounds so relevant right now
and here at Laugh a Learn, we are not trying
to get you to change your mind. We are only
trying to get you to use your mind, because why, Bobby, is.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Your mind and your vote or a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
And don't waste my time or your vote. Because y'all
see what we at and y'all see where we hit it.
We are trained headed to a brick wall with no breaks,
and it's a big old' orange thing right in the front.
It's not a sponge. It's gonna it's gonna hit first. Shit. Okay,
thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Be out by you too.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
Don't miss an episode of Laugh and Learn. Listen and
subscribe on the Black Effect Podcast Network, I Heart Radio,
app or wherever you get your podcasts. Laugh and Learn
Podcast is a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network
and iHeartRadio. Our ejective producer is Tiffany Hattish. Our theme
music is by the one and only Chrissy Payne. Thank you, guys,
(51:31):
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