October 17, 2025 • 44 mins
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, comedian Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford celebrate Bobbi’s birthday while unpacking a range of timely topics. They reflect on the passing of legendary actress Diane Keaton, explore the political tensions surrounding ceasefires, indictments, and the ongoing government shutdown, and examine the historical significance of voting rights in America. Flame and Bobbi also discuss the shifting dynamics of power, control, and civic responsibility, urging listeners to stay informed, engaged, and proactive in shaping the nation’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're flame, we say she if you watch your coffee
time the baby you know the name Flame, my bro
also known as my ro Flame. Come in with last
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and come in with you love loundes. Baby, you better
catch it when you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood
to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homage.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What's up tips?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah you know? She raised shot towns on speaking to
the grown a second. We're gonna lab cut of the
kicking and at the end we leave it, which is
a lift your spirits like you want to revisit. So
your first second listen, Young folks say it's list Old
folks say we dig.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hey, no, fish, do what you do? Ray, no this,
do what you do?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Hey, no kiss, do what I do?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And no, hey, hey hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe
(01:41):
and welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Let me tell how special today is before I go
any further, y'ard. So it is October the sixteenth, sixteenth.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Today is the sixteenth. There better not be a number
that comes out of your mouth, because I will come
through the phone and punch you in the throat.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's big mouth, that lady right there, y'all, love her.
I love her, We all love her. Here left line,
it's Bobby Clippers. Today is have birthday. Y'all say happy birthday,
body Clipper girl. You look you look good if you
only look at day over thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now I love you again.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Look that's my land right there. I ain't never going
past that age. Y'all can go to hell. Congratulations Bobby. Listen.
I know you don't want to discuss your age, but
you look fantastic. But was it a milestone age?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It was a milestone birthday, Yes, it was. That's We're
just gonna leave it at that. I'm doing. Am I
feeling older and wiser? I don't feel it yet, but
maybe tomorrow when they wake up, I'll feel a little
older or feel a little wiser. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Listen, that's all you gotta do is work place. What's
gonna happen tomorrow? Because in this country, it is where
we live in we all know what's going to have
it tomorrow. Hell, we all know what's going happen at
the next fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, look at this. I found seven dollars in a
drawer in my desk. I didn't know I had it.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Seven is the the good luck number.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, I got to ask you. So my sister Colleen
said to our niece or somebody was asking in her
classroom how much older she is than our sister Teresa.
So she said, I don't know, six or seven? What
is this? What is this with the kids? Six seven?
Six seven?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
What is that? Well? I can't relate by me. I
don't have any kids that young.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't get it. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Okay, I want to talk about the Diane Keaton because
I fucking love dyank cute. So in this past week,
ladies and Jim, we've had a couple of losses, and
one to me that was very near and dear, which
was the great actress herself as Diane Keaton. Always loved
her quirkiness. Bobby, Yeah, me too. She was a huge talent.
And the movies that I loved might be now movies
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that other people love. My favorite two movies by her,
they Ryan In Fag Will Shoot the Moon and Baby Boom.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I loved Baby Boom.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh my god, I loved her and she was so cute.
Oh that was so sad that she did. And she
was a very really like she was a very genuine person.
If you were to see her interviews, she was very ordinary,
she said her excited with very you Bobby watching TV
kicking back and she was too. But she was adnamic actress.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Did you They came out, her family came out last night,
late last night and said it was pneumonia. She got pneumonia.
So you really people got to get you know, got
to be careful. If you're a vaccine person, get your
pneumonia vaccine. If not, really wash your hands and do
all the preventative stuff that you possibly can because it
can really take you out. They said she was an
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incredible mom. Her kids came out and just said they
were her hero. We had the most normal life. She
wasn't perfect, but she was always present. That was what
she said to them. She didn't care if she was perfect.
She wanted to be in there whatever their stuff was.
I thought it was going to be some form of cancer,
because like twenty twenty five years she had a mistectomy.
She had cancer. She always the cats and stuff came in.
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The bigger brim tats and the covering her hands because
she'd had a lot of skin cancer. I guess removed.
So she it was a way to keep it off
her face and keep it off her hands where she
had had the she had basilin squamous. I don't think
she ever had melanoma, thank goodness. But she was quirky.
She was a phenomenal actress. You could tell. She's the
type that left it all on the floor. And for
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anybody that's acted with her that have come forward, they've
all had wonderful things to say and said that she
made the better of them. She was so generous that
she might stop the scene and say you do it
this way, even though it might diminish her role, but
she thought it would be better for the scene and
the role. So yeah, God bless is seventy nine a
wonderful life lived. I really thought, well, she took such
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good care of herself.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I thought she'd at least make it into her eighties.
But anyway, yeah, poor poor Diane. And then the other
one I think you knew. Everybody on your coffee times
was talking about it. I'm not recognizing the name for
some reason.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
And there was the Angelo. It was a great R
and B recording artist, beautiful voice and he used to
have a beautiful body. Unfortunately he died from pank created cancer. Pols,
please go get your rectum checked out. Go get your
rectum checked out, Go get your prostate tacked out. And
that's not to say that he wasn't getting here is done,
but that pant created cancer moves fast. So you had
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the fan out.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It is, yeah, get all your checks. But unfortunately, as
you know, pancreatic cancer is a silent killer. I have
my aunt passed from it and she was a nun
so she did like everything you were supposed to do.
It got a hold of her and she seven days
from the from the day we found out what it was.
She had it for about a month and a half,
two months, and the doctors couldn't figure out what it was.
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And then once she got the pancreatic diagnosis, she was
gone within seven days. It's really fast, and it just
eats you. It really eats you up, and it's not
a pleasant it's not a pleasant way to go. And
right now there are no cures for that one. It's
I think they can give you more time, but I
don't think they necessarily can cure it. But God bless
the two of them.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, wait a minute, about the angelope so well, was
so fantastic about him outside of his voice. He had
a baby with the late Angie Stone. They had a
baby together, and so he had a video of a
song called how does It Feel? And he was like
it was like astillly nude in the video. So if
you looked at the video, if you had to, like
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you know when you look at your TV and you're
trying to look over trying to see something because you
thought he was nude and you wanted to see everything.
Bodies were so delicious and he was all oiled up.
I know they sent P Diddy into a frenzy, but
he was all oiled up and everything. It was a
very very delicious So it's sad to see him go
to go out like that. And he had a beautiful voice.
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He had a made he remade Smokey Robinson's version of Cruising.
It's very very it's very chill. He was a great artist.
May he reci peace.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh now I'll have to I know who he is
now that you said that song. No, I don't know.
I'm gonna have to go watch.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So Lady's asks you. So the white lady was trying
to see the black when you was trying to see
down inside of them TVs. How many TV's did you break, Bobby,
try me? Not many?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I only got one.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I've never had a lot of fun in my life,
so I wish I could say I had a hell
of a time. But but now I can only imagine you,
you dirty bird.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Oh listen. I was like everybody else, like, what's down there?
What's up under that TV? I was trying to look
at it. I've probably pushed two or three over in
the hotel. And it was the old school TVs. They
had the big old ass on the big chassis. It
wasn't like these little thing mins we got now. It
was the big old TV's.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Oh my god, that's the truth. They were. They were
literally when we were kids, they were furniture. You could
have it all built into like like you know, wood
into it. Try to get rid of one of those
son of a beest though not fun, not fun at all.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So rest to the boat. And I know I told
my age when I said Diane Keaton's movie Shoot the Moon,
but that is a fantastic movie to me. I told
my age thirty nine, Okay, let's go by. Where are
we going?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You watch it at niked night or you watch the rerun,
so I have to give President Trump and his administration kudos.
It looks like we'll see, I mean, we have to.
We have to kind of watch it. But so Israel Gaza.
There has been a ceasefire and twenty twenty hostages who
were live came home. Some bodies were released. I know
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that I think mistakenly one or two bodies were not
they were Palestinians. They weren't the Israelis. They're working on that,
but we have to see how long. We'll still have
to see if Haas actually honors it, because they've never
honored anything. Trump has said that that we will give
more support to Israel and the United States will stop
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it if they don't end the fire the or they
break the ceasefire. So we'll have to We'll have to
kind of see. I sent you something that I thought
was classy and we would never see this with this
administration side. President Biden came out and gave kudos to
President Trump and his administration for bringing it across the
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line and you know the works that they had to do,
and gave his team of setting it up in the
diligent work on both sides with both administrations but he
gave the two thumbs up, and I thought, that's a statesman.
You know you're not going to see that on the
other side.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's the difference between a grown man and a very
irresponsible me. So look, barbycriever, I've seen all of that.
I know you try to give him praise, but the
deal ain't done to me because they have not stopped
the fire. He called for cease fire, but they are
still over there fighting. So until it is a done deal,
I ain't bouying nothing because there are all the promises
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he made outside of him getting you back has not
been taken care of. But what he is doing is
getting you all back because he is indicting them left
from right. He has indicted Letitia James Attorney General here,
and today they indicted his old home boy, his owns.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What was he to him, well, Bolton, I know he was.
He was his national security advisor.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I believe, yes he were. Yeah, he had and then
he young ship and turncoat and he has gotten indicted.
They raided his home and his office today. I thought,
I'm like, this is what's going to make even more
and more be scared to speak up and speak out
because nobody is. Nobody is safe.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But did you notice just like Leticia James, Because Letitia
James campaigned on going after Trump and getting him, and
she got him on fraudulent documents, and he indicted her
for fraudulent documents. And John Bolton another thing that now
John Bolton personally didn't do this, but it's another thing
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that Trump got his hands banked on were the classified
records that he had kept down in mar Lago. And
so a Bolton is actually charged with mishandling of classified materials.
So it's like he is, he is punishing for the
same things that that he was punished for, or what
he believes he was punished for.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh, the big paybag, Bobby, the big payback.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It's the big, the big revenge tour. I guess the
one thing he couldn't do was put it, put his
big boy panties on, uh and kind of let it,
you know, die on the vine. But he didn't. So
he did. So that's the third one. And I don't
think it's going to stop. I think he's just going
to keep on rolling with it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, so many, so many people of color, mostly black people,
are losing their positions of power in government. He's firing,
they're they're doing mass firings and without rehiring, I layoff
firings doing this government shut down. This whole thing is fiasco.
The Democrats have tried to come to the table and
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have tried to get the to come back in, but
Mike Johnson and them Republicans are standing ten toes down
straw that they are not having it, and the American
people are the collateral damaged robbery. And it's fucked up.
Let me just say that it's really messed up. It
was really sad because so many people are going to
lose their livelihoods, their healthcare, their their food stamps. Some
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people really rely on those little two hundred dollars and
the as pricey as food is, two hundred dollars won't
even last you a good week for real. If it's
don't let it be three people to feed or more.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No. Yeah, if you're eating in Friel today and you've
got a family of we'll say four or five, yeah,
it's but the government shutdown, it's yeah, it's crazy. Chris
Cuomo had yesterday had you know, I love me some
Chris Cuomo. He had town hall at the Kennedy Center
with Steven A. Smith and and Bill O'Reilly. They came on.
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But he had a whole host of people that kind
of through. He had Fetterman on, he had Jim Jones,
he had a congresswoman from Pennsylvania and I'm blanking on
her name right now. He had Mansion in and he
kind of fed them through. And they were talking about
the shutdown, and it was a town hall, so people
got to speak. And one of the people that came forward,
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his last name was Chris. I'm blanking on his first
his first name, but he was an air traffic controller
and they were speaking about the shutdown and he said, listen,
I'm not getting paid. And he was wondering what could
they do to get it, to get things moving, And
he said, right now, what he's doing is and he
does it anyway, but he has to do it more
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now to pay his daughter's tuition. Is he's working all
day unpaid as an air traffic controller, and then he
does door dash at night so he can bring in income,
so we can still make his daughter's tuition payment. Steve
Nist Smith actually got so agitated by it, like was
so touched. He spoke for a few minutes and he
(15:02):
got so heated. I think he was afraid he was
going to say something, so he said, you know what
I'm going to do. I'm going to leave, and he
left for a minute while they had a commercial, and
then came back. He said, because we're just hearing this
young guy who's working all day and he's not getting
paid during this this shutdown, he said, But everybody on
this stage, you know, because there were like five or
six congressmen or saturdays, he said, everybody he has getting
a check, he says, and nobody is motivated to move
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it on. And then he just kind of he kind
of removed himself and it was still sort of the
party line. So the and I'll say Mansion was more
you know how he's becoming an independent now. He was
more democratic. He said. There's a couple of things that
are going on that are wrong with the government, he said,
first off, and I never thought of this flame. It
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never even occurred to me. He said. Back in the day,
the senators and the congressman all lived in Washington, d C.
They were there for the most part. A lot of
them shared rooms, even different sides, Republicans, Democrats, Independence, they
would share like one bedroom apartment goes. They'd have bound
bunk beds, like literally like that, because even though it
sounds like a lot of money, it's not. When you
have to pay a rent and then pay for you
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just got you know, just getting through saying you have
to pay for your three kids and wife at home,
you know, it was a lot, he said. So what
happened was they'd be relationships we've been made. We'd be
going out to eat you and I have joked about
that Ted Kennedy, like, you know, I'm from Boston, but
you'd hear Ted Kennedy tip O'Neil ed Moakley. He'd be
they'd be beaten with McCain and Biden and you know
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people on the other side. They would battle it out
all day and then they would make those relationships. They'd
go to the steakhouse at night, have a bourbon and say, Okay,
I don't like this, but but you need it. I'm
going to vote for you. We need this in my state,
vote for me. And the deals were made that way,
he said. Nobody has those relationships. They come in a
Monday night for a vote, They're in the air by
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Thursday afternoon. Nobody speaks to each other. He goes, there's
not there's no way you're gonna you're gonna vote or
try to help help a friend, because they're not friends.
They only know the name. They don't care, he said,
as long as it's like that. But he said, and
also back in the day they were asking what you
would do, he said, there would be a room at
the Roosevelt Room, for instance, and stick them all in
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there and say, listen, the door is locked from the outside.
There's a bathroom in here you can all use until
you figure it out. We're not letting you out. He goes.
And that's basically what used to happen in the day.
That's not happening, he said, so until somebody speaks up.
And what really should be driving a lot of this
is the president figure it out, because ultimately, I know
in this administration they're not seeing it that way, but
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it's gonna fall on him and we will see that
in the midterms depending on So I found it interesting
to kind of see them talk. But then Jim Jones
came in and goes, well, it's the Democrats because they
want these subsidies, and the subsidies are up and they
cost a fortune, and then he was going on and
on and on, and then of course the Democratic congresswoman
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from Pennsylvania stepped in and she goes, listen, this is
what health cares about. We can't people just going to
emergency rooms and spending that cost more. The subsidies sound
like they cost more, but in the end, people are
getting here good care. This preventative prevented the medicine. So
they're not getting the cancer because they're getting their colon checked.
You know, they're getting the colonoscopes, et cetera, et cetera.
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Now she says that, you know, there are ways that
we could work. She said, because when COVID came in,
there were a lot more subsidies given to people who
made more. Because, believe it or not, there are self
like you. You're self employed basically, so you work for yourself.
You have to get your own benefits. Blah blah blah
blah blah. She said, Well, if they're making two hundred thousand,
she goes, but they have to buy their own health care.
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They can go and get some subsidies so it's not
costing them as much. Maybe we get rid of it
after a certain dollar amount. But people who are making
forty thousand in con get health care through benefits, you know,
through their employer. Excuse me, she said, we have to
still be able to help them out. But there's no
conversation like this happening because we're willing to give, but
we have to get in a room with people. Jim
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Jones was going to go he was going to go
to the map, you know, for what the Republican Party
line is saying. So I was a little disappointed because
had he given a little bit more, you know, you'd
see a little hope. I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
It's an old bobby you get. You have so much
faith in Trump when he does a little thing. I'm
not saying he's celebrated, no, no, no, but you always found
a way. I'm not saying that he has the final
say so over this, but he is the one who
is dangling Apple and Mike Jones face Mike Johnson because
Mike Johnson has the Mike Johnson has the ability, the
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capability and the power to call this, but he won't
because he is strong toilet paper. And that is it
right there, the law. They have chosen loyalists over people
that are qualified for those positions. All you had to
do was kiss the rain. That's a good episode. Kiss
the damn ring. If you kiss the ring, you get,
you get what you want. Because Bobby, there's no faith.
And sadly, people who voted for this and are going
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to suffer behind this still have their faith in things
are going to be okay up under this man, up
under this administration. They are not. He is over and
he is overeasy right now making deals. Wheels are deals
caught on hot MIC's talking about how much care is
somebody get it and you can do business with his
sons since they're not in government. It's it's so much
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going on by me right now. But guess what we
are not. We're focused on just the little things that
keeps happening as opposed to a big picture. But there's
no kings. They march. I don't know what I know
what message is going to see and I just don't
know what what change is going to make.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The only thing that when they have these marches is
that I think that so they see that people are
still angry. And that's what Stephen, Stephen A. Smith was saying.
And when he got so aggravated, he says, I don't
think people in Washington they either aren't aware or they
don't care that we're pissed. He said in plain English,
and I apologize to my language. He goes, said, the
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people are pissed. I don't think you get it. I
think you think it's a sider. Both sides are angry
because I'm talking to both the Republicans that are pissed,
and they're not blaming the Democrats even though you're saying that.
So Bill O'Reilly came on and he said CNN had
some sort of pull that people are more upset with
the Democrats. But then he said, he goes, and what's
going to happen with that is and I think the
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Republicans are taking that for granted and they're backing off,
he goes, And that's a big mistake, he goes, because
that could change on a dime. You know, the next
day they might say okay, and is All of the
Democrats that were on that stage said, how in the
world could it possibly be the Democrats where you have
the presidency, the House. You know, they just went down that,
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you know, the seidate that it can't be they need
five of our votes now. Fetterman actually voted to keep
it open. He voted with the Republicans, but he was
honorable and why he wasn't trying to because he thinks
it's responsible. He also fears that it could potentially give
Trump too much power. You know if we if we
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shut it down, that let's Trump do all these firings
in all of this nonsense.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Bobby, you know, I'm trying to see how I can
say this because I would hate for them to come
after us by me saying the wrong thing. But it's
not even about and I told you so as to this.
The people byby act like they want to experience and
I'm talking black folks right now, y'all, and like some
of y'all is like y'all want to experience what slavery
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is and was. I don't think you really know the
barbaric nature of what You don't don't read the books.
You need to talk to an elder because there's still
something around that. Remember their grandmothers, tell them the actual
stories of what it was like. Because I don't think
you guys understand. And what fan the flame will right
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be about tonight is they want to take away your
ability to vote, not just where how you vote. They
don't want you to be able to vote at all.
But we're going to get to that. But I don't
think you guys understand that this man is done some
kind of crazy mission. And I don't even think it
right at this point. I don't think it's even racist.
I think it's just I want all of it. I
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don't want to leave a ga for nobody. I want
it all. Am taking some of my friends with me.
If they say anything I don't like, I'm getting rid
of them too. But I want it all. So I
do believe that he is on his way to try
to become a true dictator, and I think there is
gonna get sick of his ship and stand up finally,
including his own. Basically, Okay, we have enough and turn
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it back on because y'all hurry up and do it please.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's power play. I agree with you. It's a I
don't know if it's even dictator. It's a power play.
And I don't even know if a lot of this
stuff is a it's a power a power player or
you know, a back end door he's trying to do
something with. And I'm so bad at this, I'm gonna
get it wrong. Some sort of crypto currency, some sort
of stabilized cryptocurrency. They have them in other they have
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them in other And so you guys, I'm giving you
all homework to go and look into it, because I
don't want you to take exactly what I'm saying for
I'm giving you the gist. I don't have the detail. Unfortunately,
he is trying to set up this cryptocurrency where he
is sort of the lead. So it's almost like he's
getting rid of the treasury or something like so it'll
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be our It'll be our money or our currency for
after he gets out of office and for his children.
So he's setting up this this whole you know deal basically,
and that's what a lot of these countries are that
that he's going into our I learned that again on
Chris Cuomo's Chris Crawl, a project he had a money
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guy on and they were explaining it, and he was
asking all sorts of questions Chris of the bunny guy,
and uh, he said, I'm not even nervous over what's
happening in the economy right now. He goes what I'm
nervous about, and he talked about this, and I was
completely aware that any of this was going on, because
I don't know that crypto. It seems like voodoo to me.
You know, you see it, you don't see it. It's
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not anything real you can put your hand on. So
I'm well.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I was about to say, by you know, we're dinosaurs,
that that is all new to us. But I think
we do need to take a class. I was going
to suggest this too. I think we all, everybody over
forty five should take an AI class because I do
think that AI is going to be the way of
the future. And I think we should take your class, Bobby.
I think we should take one, just so we can
stay at least close enough in the loop. We may
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never get in the loop, but we can at least
stay close to the outside of it. Right. Abraham Lincoln
had a quote many years ago that says that nearly
all men can stand adversity. But if you want to
test a man's character, give him power, y'all Engave this
man the power that he has been seeking his whole life.
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And he is losing his ship, Bobby, he really is.
And the only the downfall is the American people are suffering.
And you know what, Bobby, were all going through the ship.
You know, the way they're doing all these margins Ice
is just barbaric cameras, and they had their faces and
they grabbing innocent people off the street. You don't even
have to be They grabbing white folks, black folks, Indigenous folks.
(26:09):
They just grabbing innocent people. They got the fake ones
grabbing women. All of that. Bobby and a lot of
these people who supported him, I wonder do they actually
understand what they did? I wonder do they know their
role in their lives when they have to deal with
I had a hand in this because I know a
lot of people are taking those jobs from Ice, not
because they want to, because they have to. And he
(26:30):
has the fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, and it pays
one hundred thousand dollars a year full benefits. So it's
very enticing to take that job. But to hurt your
own can when you see we are clearly in the
middle of a race. Something that is like that, That
to me then becomes the question of do I value
myself and my culture, my people, or is it really
(26:53):
just about this money. But Bobby, because so many people
have lost their jobs, yourself included. Now at this point
we are hungry is about the money, Bobby. Unfortunately, yeah,
it is. And I don't think that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I am sure there is a percentage of people that
don't have good intentions, but I think the bulk of
the people that have those jobs are doing those jobs,
think they're doing it for some sort of reason, and
then they have to go and do the job, which
is tough. He had Holman on in that town hall
as well. He's going down.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
With the ship.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
He just believes that, you know, what he's doing is
exactly right. Because they were pushing them on why do
they wear masks? They should be some sort of Chris
was really pushing them. They should be some sort of
identification so if somebody does do something wrong, like the police,
they have a number. It's like our social Security number
or something, right, so they can identify us and you
could call in and say listen agent two, three four five,
(27:44):
and they know who they were talking about. And he
kind of pushed them on that, and he said, well,
because they're having their lives threatened and blah blah blah,
and so I just he's not gonna he thinks he
is getting the criminals well.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
On the plus, a federal Judge blacktaim from doing just
that today. She was like that in Chicago, they had
to have their body cameras on every part of ice
because it was they was they were just slamming us.
A lot of the a lot of those rioters were
non violent. They were just protesting, you know, verbally nothing
and they just yeah, they were shooting with pepper balls.
(28:18):
They shot a preacher in here with the prepper body.
They showed it. It's just crazy, Bobby. It is just
really outlandish the way. But this is what it was
promised before he got in office, and I think that
people didn't believe it. And now it's too late to say, oh,
we fucked around the fandout, because now we're in it.
How can we fix it?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, well, the midterms are coming and people have to
remember that. Don't forget it, you know, like they are
actually coming. So remember everything that you're not happy about.
Journal it, put it down so you don't forget. And
remember if this the big beautiful bill or now they're
calling it the working Man's Bill, the changes are not
(28:57):
going to happen till after We have to keep saying
on this podcast, they're not going to happen until after
the midterms. So don't when you go into the midterms think, Okay,
it's not that bad. No, it's not that bad because
they're not going to happen until I think the January
after that, and that's when it's going to get really,
really bad. I mean, he is the administration. He is
(29:18):
doing everything that he promised to do, except that he's
got one one problem. And the one problem is so
you know, our borders are closed and they're safer, if
you want to say that, regardless of the mayhem that's happening.
I don't feel like my pocketbook has any more change
in it. I don't know about yours. I mean, remember prices,
we're going to come down, So he's failing on that side.
I'd say, again, he over promised, that's all. If he
(29:40):
kind of kept it flat, I think we would have
been Okay. These tariffs cars are higher than anything. My
sister has to buy a car and she's like, my god,
they're so expensive and we don't even have a couple
of cars have good interest rates. But now you're going
to start getting hit with the big tariffs unless they're
made in America.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, and it's a scary Ribby what's super scary is
now when you want to travel abroad because so many
people I see so many people staying, they want to
get their passports and know I'm trying to get my
children's passports and on it as well, and just in case,
just in case we actually have to flee. But now,
because what happened that, whatever happened between the FBI and
(30:20):
the drug cartel, what's going over there in Venezuela with
all these attacks and strikes on all these different boats,
is that the cartel is they saying they're going to
grab American citizens. They didn't say what nationality. They don't
care as long as you're American. So now it's not
even you know, it's sketchy to travel. I'm not saying
that it's not safe, but you have to be very aware.
(30:42):
Now you should have been aware anyway going to a
foreign land, but now you have to be more on
high alert because now it's kind of some kind of
tip attack because they're over there fucking with Venezuela and
they are shooting. And he is so brave that with
his worrying about these other countries, that he know that
America has the power to dominate it is. It is
almost to the point of it's not even disrespectful. It's
(31:05):
to a point. But I challenge you like he wants
a challenge by me.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Oh, and he helps the people that he likes, I
mean Argentina. That was that crazy Chancell wielding a guy.
Argentina just gave him twenty billion as a bailow. What
about my biscuit's flame? All I needed was two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars to get those biscuits over to
(31:31):
the kids in the Sudan who needed them.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Is your birthday? Is your birthday? By me? Let the
biscuits go. Oh my god, let the biscuits go.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It kind of makes me that when we've already spent
all these millions and millions it probably costs to make
the biscuits, I am just stuck. Or give them. I
think they were in India at the time. I hope
to god they at least the Indians took the biscuits,
so they didn't because there were a lot of poor
kids there and that they didn't get totally wasted. That
that's the biscuits, and the contraceptor is a bug, and
they ever living shi t enemy. I'm over it though. Okay,
(32:00):
well let's keep going.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
So so as far as the terrorists go by me,
the poor farmers are really catching like just oh, it's
almost sad. But to think that some of them voted
for him, you know, you voted against your own interest.
I know he was forceful, and he seems strong and powerful,
but he was always never on your side. Y'all made
(32:23):
the wrong choice. A lot of these people are losing
their fines. Barbiyys have had their funds for generations because
of these terror. Prices are completely over the top, and
it is it's crazy by me. Car prices, the car
prices that have made history. You cannot buy a new
car now. The starting price for a new car is
(32:43):
fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, I couldn't afford it. I couldn't. I was trying
to lesser my bill. My car, my cheap pooped the
beat of one hundred thousand miles I got for sure,
I'd get two hundred thousand miles. I had no intention
of buying a car. I'd about used car. It's a
twenty eighteen. I got it last year. So it was
I a bought a six year old car, and that
was thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But a new car now, Bobby is fifty thousand, bigger price,
fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Nothing, that's a Toyota Wrap four, not even with all
the bells and whistles in it. And I'm like, and
then when you break that down, you know, I had
a down payment, but not a big bit down payment.
But I'm like, I kind of afford to, like a
thirteen hundred for discr Like I kind of ford you know,
a car payment that big, that was like half my
mortgage for the love of God and my taxes and
(33:30):
everything that was built into it. I said, I can't
be doing that anyway. I'm very happy with my used car.
I hope to God she gives me a few years
before dropping down.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We just we are really just in a and the
price of food is just it's just unbelievable. I don't
get any kind of assistance when it comes to food
stamps or anything like that. But Bobby, when I go
to the grocery store, listen and I go for the
essential sometimes bread, milk, eggs. But you know, Bobby, is
(33:57):
it's even easy eating? And then you look like, well,
what a minute.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
What the hell did I get I got two bags
of more snackies because we don't have like a normal
the way my house is set up, the kitchen down
it's the kitchens down on blah blah, so we eat
a lot of snack or sandwiches and stuff like that.
I came up with two bags of just like snacks.
My mother isn't even eating right now, as you know.
And it was it was seventy eight dollars and ninety
(34:24):
nine cents two bags. Two oh right here, two bags,
not even like huge bags. I'm like, sweet Jesus. And
ice was four bucks, like it was the craziest. So
that's what I was saying. It's not I mean, they're
saying that the US CNM was reporting, And Katie Kuric
also had had a piece this week saying that the
(34:46):
US consumers are bearing fifty five percent of the tariffs
so far that they've been able to collect and monitor.
You know how we weren't going to bear any of it,
wasn't none of it was going to come. But it
is coming, you know, just in super simple stuff that
you're purchasing. So yeah, I wish there was more effort
being put into that, and maybe not as much.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You know he used to be the overplaying in Egypt
and making deals with the Saudist and the guitars and
all that. Here you think about America, he is thinking
about himself and running it up. And I'm telling you,
I'm gonna say that one here. But it looks all
sketchy to me. And the scariest part is if if
he keeps speaking and it looked like he's going off
(35:30):
the rails, that's gonna be the overplay for the underplay
or the underplay for the overplay. Bobby, so listen and
he'll get away with it all. They can all just
point the finger of blame and they all get him.
So funny now, because I saw Mitchell McConnell. He was
being questioned by about something today and he grabbed the
assistant's arm and then he fake fail and then he
walked away because the assistant felt bad about asking a question.
(35:52):
It looked so it looked as real as that shot
that they're talking about, that attempted assassination. It looked as
real as that allegily.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'll tell you, yeah, they're saying that. I'll be very
interested to see if anything comes of it. Trump while
he's overseas while he's doing his uh, his tour is
going to go to and meet Putin and Budapeste. Let's
see if anything happens there. You know now that he's
on a roll with the other.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yes, I saw that. He said that he spoke with
President Putin for two hours and he told him how
he'd liked for him to give these so called super
JITs or whatever they are, over to the bombers to
Israel the fighting. But all that to me be just
wolf tickets coming out of Trump's mouth. He'd just be
selling us a dream because I don't even I don't
(36:43):
even believe he speaks to me in that capacity. I
do not personally. Uh. And with that, Bobby, can we
get the fan of the flame?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We certainly can. We can. We can roll on to
fan the flame. And that is about the voting and uh.
But the Voting Rights Act, which was back in the
sixties put In and they're looking to roll it back.
One of the things, one of the oral arguments that
was given was how and the justices came back and
(37:13):
we're asking questions, And one of the questions they came
back with was how long Ray should actually continue to
be a factor in redistricting, and analysts say that the
Justice is p to b poised to limit the Voting
Rights Act, and the Landmark Act was again was back
in the sixties. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I don't And all.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
They're going to do is turn around and they're going
to Jerrymander and they're going to pull it's going to
affect the Democrats overall. They're going to get rid of
all sorts of regions and areas that have been typically democratic. Well,
so it's going to be racial and democratic.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, and so as was pasted in nineteen sixty four.
And I'm telling you, Bob, I wasn't born to see.
I wasn't born in a you uh huh anyway. But
from the stories down this until my grandmother talks about
how they fought to get that bill passed, how many
people were being burned out of their homes, ostracized on working,
which meant which affected their family and they had to
(38:14):
relocate all of that. And for this generation to just
sign up for that because a lot of black he
has a lot of black supporters, there's a lot of
black mega y'all signed up for this. By me that
just I don't understand where you get so lost that
you don't know who you are or you don't remember,
or maybe that is why they're trying to ban books
(38:35):
and don't want you to learn your own history, so
you don't understand what it took for us to get
to where we were all just for them to get
ready to take it all away again, which is barbaria
to me because that's because you don't know, and that's
the ignorance on the black people. Pard But I think
that this was always the underplay for the overplay, because
if he can get controlled, especially of the black boat,
because they know that we black women especially are going
(38:57):
to rally to get cut the person they want and
minus the cheating, and I damn show believed that they cheated.
But this hurts. This hurts me as a black person
in this country, Bobby, to think that we have been
against our own interests. I understand the Latinos have done
it and so many other generations. I want to speaking
from my black experience, it hurts and it is so
disrespectful to U, to our forefathers, to our ancestors, that
(39:22):
we're doing this and we see what he's doing. It
ain't like he trying to add it or sink just
nod at all, right, and they just they just fall
for the okay, Doug, Bobby. It's it's kind of like
they're under a spell. Really it is.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I don't like when any rites. I mean, when the
voting first, when the slaves were first freed, they hadn't
they had the rights to vote. It was taken away.
Then systematically, state by state they started taking away and
they were terrified. The ones who could vote were terrified
to go against the farmer, other farmers and plantation owners
(39:58):
and whatnot around them. So they finally get back in
sixty four sixty five. And to see that, you know,
sixty years we're going backwards first, you know, we started
with abortion, and you know, and then we'll just one
rite run one after another. We're going to have less
than we had then. Does that seem than we did
(40:19):
in the seventh It just seems crazy to me, you know,
to our kids. I'm sorry, usually you want your kids
to have better and more in this generation for sure,
even with this stuff. Because of the economy and whatnot there,
I mean, it's a million and a half to buy
a house. You and I were having a personal conversation.
I said well, my parents bought their first house back
(40:41):
in sixty four. I think they did it with five
hundred down and the house was the cost of what
of my father's salary was that year. Could you imagine
buying a house? Well, even say you have a okay
salary one hundred thousand dollars, And I know in some
states some people might be going, oh, but if you
live in like Boston, California, New York, that it's not
a lot of money. You couldn't You couldn't get the
(41:02):
chair of that I'm sitting on in the area around it.
For that it's it's a million something. So there's just
no way to do it. So not only are we
doing it that way that they're gonna they're losing the
American dream, we're actually giving them less rights and less freedoms.
I believed. I grew up believing I could be anything.
My father thought I was going to be Miss America.
God bless him. He was misguided. But I thought I
(41:23):
could be the president if I wanted to. I didn't,
but I could. I could be anything that I wanted to. Kids,
they're gonna they're going to know their place.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, it isn't that sad. I'm very controlled. My biggest
firit that is coming down the pipe that keep hearing
is about these microchips a bit. They're looking to have
everybody microchips. About eight you won't be able to go out.
I don't need nobody. I don't need big brother inside
of me. I'm the top. I don't boyd them for nobody,
and that's bothering to me. So no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
I wouldn't mind the chip if if it it zapped
some of the fat off.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I'm bound nobody being able to control my man or
controller where I speak and think of the controller things
that I do. I need to be in control of
me at all times. But here at Leffelo List in general,
we thank you guys for joining us. Oh my god,
we had an episode this week and it's Bobby's big birthday.
Happy about birthday, Bobby Cliffer. I did so, yeah, I
(42:18):
did say so. I knew you weren't gonna get it
by your birthday, but you're gonna get it. You're gonna
be surprised when you get it too.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Better not better not hum, let's just say that in
the box.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Darl I already put the batteries in it, so get
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(42:49):
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Speaker 2 (43:05):
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Speaker 3 (43:13):
And with that, ladies and gentlemen, here at laugh and Learn.
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Speaker 2 (43:29):
Mind and your vote are a terrible thing to waste
and your voice. Complain, complain, complain, and hold your money
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Speaker 3 (43:39):
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah you know? She raised shot towns on speaking to
the grown a second. We're gonna lab cut of the
kicking and at the end we leave it, which is
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your first second listen, Young folks say it's list Old
folks say we dig.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
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do what you do?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Hey, no kiss, do what I do?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And no, hey, hey hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe
(01:41):
and welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Let me tell how special today is before I go
any further, y'ard. So it is October the sixteenth, sixteenth.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Today is the sixteenth. There better not be a number
that comes out of your mouth, because I will come
through the phone and punch you in the throat.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's big mouth, that lady right there, y'all, love her.
I love her, We all love her. Here left line,
it's Bobby Clippers. Today is have birthday. Y'all say happy birthday,
body Clipper girl. You look you look good if you
only look at day over thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now I love you again.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Look that's my land right there. I ain't never going
past that age. Y'all can go to hell. Congratulations Bobby. Listen.
I know you don't want to discuss your age, but
you look fantastic. But was it a milestone age?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It was a milestone birthday, Yes, it was. That's We're
just gonna leave it at that. I'm doing. Am I
feeling older and wiser? I don't feel it yet, but
maybe tomorrow when they wake up, I'll feel a little
older or feel a little wiser. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Listen, that's all you gotta do is work place. What's
gonna happen tomorrow? Because in this country, it is where
we live in we all know what's going to have
it tomorrow. Hell, we all know what's going happen at
the next fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, look at this. I found seven dollars in a
drawer in my desk. I didn't know I had it.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Seven is the the good luck number.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, I got to ask you. So my sister Colleen
said to our niece or somebody was asking in her
classroom how much older she is than our sister Teresa.
So she said, I don't know, six or seven? What
is this? What is this with the kids? Six seven?
Six seven?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
What is that? Well? I can't relate by me. I
don't have any kids that young.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't get it. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Okay, I want to talk about the Diane Keaton because
I fucking love dyank cute. So in this past week,
ladies and Jim, we've had a couple of losses, and
one to me that was very near and dear, which
was the great actress herself as Diane Keaton. Always loved
her quirkiness. Bobby, Yeah, me too. She was a huge talent.
And the movies that I loved might be now movies
(03:52):
that other people love. My favorite two movies by her,
they Ryan In Fag Will Shoot the Moon and Baby Boom.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I loved Baby Boom.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh my god, I loved her and she was so cute.
Oh that was so sad that she did. And she
was a very really like she was a very genuine person.
If you were to see her interviews, she was very ordinary,
she said her excited with very you Bobby watching TV
kicking back and she was too. But she was adnamic actress.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Did you They came out, her family came out last night,
late last night and said it was pneumonia. She got pneumonia.
So you really people got to get you know, got
to be careful. If you're a vaccine person, get your
pneumonia vaccine. If not, really wash your hands and do
all the preventative stuff that you possibly can because it
can really take you out. They said she was an
(04:41):
incredible mom. Her kids came out and just said they
were her hero. We had the most normal life. She
wasn't perfect, but she was always present. That was what
she said to them. She didn't care if she was perfect.
She wanted to be in there whatever their stuff was.
I thought it was going to be some form of cancer,
because like twenty twenty five years she had a mistectomy.
She had cancer. She always the cats and stuff came in.
(05:05):
The bigger brim tats and the covering her hands because
she'd had a lot of skin cancer. I guess removed.
So she it was a way to keep it off
her face and keep it off her hands where she
had had the she had basilin squamous. I don't think
she ever had melanoma, thank goodness. But she was quirky.
She was a phenomenal actress. You could tell. She's the
type that left it all on the floor. And for
(05:27):
anybody that's acted with her that have come forward, they've
all had wonderful things to say and said that she
made the better of them. She was so generous that
she might stop the scene and say you do it
this way, even though it might diminish her role, but
she thought it would be better for the scene and
the role. So yeah, God bless is seventy nine a
wonderful life lived. I really thought, well, she took such
(05:49):
good care of herself.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I thought she'd at least make it into her eighties.
But anyway, yeah, poor poor Diane. And then the other
one I think you knew. Everybody on your coffee times
was talking about it. I'm not recognizing the name for
some reason.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
And there was the Angelo. It was a great R
and B recording artist, beautiful voice and he used to
have a beautiful body. Unfortunately he died from pank created cancer. Pols,
please go get your rectum checked out. Go get your
rectum checked out, Go get your prostate tacked out. And
that's not to say that he wasn't getting here is done,
but that pant created cancer moves fast. So you had
(06:24):
the fan out.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It is, yeah, get all your checks. But unfortunately, as
you know, pancreatic cancer is a silent killer. I have
my aunt passed from it and she was a nun
so she did like everything you were supposed to do.
It got a hold of her and she seven days
from the from the day we found out what it was.
She had it for about a month and a half,
two months, and the doctors couldn't figure out what it was.
(06:47):
And then once she got the pancreatic diagnosis, she was
gone within seven days. It's really fast, and it just
eats you. It really eats you up, and it's not
a pleasant it's not a pleasant way to go. And
right now there are no cures for that one. It's
I think they can give you more time, but I
don't think they necessarily can cure it. But God bless
the two of them.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, wait a minute, about the angelope so well, was
so fantastic about him outside of his voice. He had
a baby with the late Angie Stone. They had a
baby together, and so he had a video of a
song called how does It Feel? And he was like
it was like astillly nude in the video. So if
you looked at the video, if you had to, like
(07:27):
you know when you look at your TV and you're
trying to look over trying to see something because you
thought he was nude and you wanted to see everything.
Bodies were so delicious and he was all oiled up.
I know they sent P Diddy into a frenzy, but
he was all oiled up and everything. It was a
very very delicious So it's sad to see him go
to go out like that. And he had a beautiful voice.
(07:48):
He had a made he remade Smokey Robinson's version of Cruising.
It's very very it's very chill. He was a great artist.
May he reci peace.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh now I'll have to I know who he is
now that you said that song. No, I don't know.
I'm gonna have to go watch.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So Lady's asks you. So the white lady was trying
to see the black when you was trying to see
down inside of them TVs. How many TV's did you break, Bobby,
try me? Not many?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I only got one.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I've never had a lot of fun in my life,
so I wish I could say I had a hell
of a time. But but now I can only imagine you,
you dirty bird.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Oh listen. I was like everybody else, like, what's down there?
What's up under that TV? I was trying to look
at it. I've probably pushed two or three over in
the hotel. And it was the old school TVs. They
had the big old ass on the big chassis. It
wasn't like these little thing mins we got now. It
was the big old TV's.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Oh my god, that's the truth. They were. They were
literally when we were kids, they were furniture. You could
have it all built into like like you know, wood
into it. Try to get rid of one of those
son of a beest though not fun, not fun at all.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So rest to the boat. And I know I told
my age when I said Diane Keaton's movie Shoot the Moon,
but that is a fantastic movie to me. I told
my age thirty nine, Okay, let's go by. Where are
we going?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You watch it at niked night or you watch the rerun,
so I have to give President Trump and his administration kudos.
It looks like we'll see, I mean, we have to.
We have to kind of watch it. But so Israel Gaza.
There has been a ceasefire and twenty twenty hostages who
were live came home. Some bodies were released. I know
(09:30):
that I think mistakenly one or two bodies were not
they were Palestinians. They weren't the Israelis. They're working on that,
but we have to see how long. We'll still have
to see if Haas actually honors it, because they've never
honored anything. Trump has said that that we will give
more support to Israel and the United States will stop
(09:52):
it if they don't end the fire the or they
break the ceasefire. So we'll have to We'll have to
kind of see. I sent you something that I thought
was classy and we would never see this with this
administration side. President Biden came out and gave kudos to
President Trump and his administration for bringing it across the
(10:13):
line and you know the works that they had to do,
and gave his team of setting it up in the
diligent work on both sides with both administrations but he
gave the two thumbs up, and I thought, that's a statesman.
You know you're not going to see that on the
other side.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's the difference between a grown man and a very
irresponsible me. So look, barbycriever, I've seen all of that.
I know you try to give him praise, but the
deal ain't done to me because they have not stopped
the fire. He called for cease fire, but they are
still over there fighting. So until it is a done deal,
I ain't bouying nothing because there are all the promises
(10:52):
he made outside of him getting you back has not
been taken care of. But what he is doing is
getting you all back because he is indicting them left
from right. He has indicted Letitia James Attorney General here,
and today they indicted his old home boy, his owns.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What was he to him, well, Bolton, I know he was.
He was his national security advisor.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I believe, yes he were. Yeah, he had and then
he young ship and turncoat and he has gotten indicted.
They raided his home and his office today. I thought,
I'm like, this is what's going to make even more
and more be scared to speak up and speak out
because nobody is. Nobody is safe.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But did you notice just like Leticia James, Because Letitia
James campaigned on going after Trump and getting him, and
she got him on fraudulent documents, and he indicted her
for fraudulent documents. And John Bolton another thing that now
John Bolton personally didn't do this, but it's another thing
(11:54):
that Trump got his hands banked on were the classified
records that he had kept down in mar Lago. And
so a Bolton is actually charged with mishandling of classified materials.
So it's like he is, he is punishing for the
same things that that he was punished for, or what
he believes he was punished for.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh, the big paybag, Bobby, the big payback.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It's the big, the big revenge tour. I guess the
one thing he couldn't do was put it, put his
big boy panties on, uh and kind of let it,
you know, die on the vine. But he didn't. So
he did. So that's the third one. And I don't
think it's going to stop. I think he's just going
to keep on rolling with it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, so many, so many people of color, mostly black people,
are losing their positions of power in government. He's firing,
they're they're doing mass firings and without rehiring, I layoff
firings doing this government shut down. This whole thing is fiasco.
The Democrats have tried to come to the table and
(12:58):
have tried to get the to come back in, but
Mike Johnson and them Republicans are standing ten toes down
straw that they are not having it, and the American
people are the collateral damaged robbery. And it's fucked up.
Let me just say that it's really messed up. It
was really sad because so many people are going to
lose their livelihoods, their healthcare, their their food stamps. Some
(13:20):
people really rely on those little two hundred dollars and
the as pricey as food is, two hundred dollars won't
even last you a good week for real. If it's
don't let it be three people to feed or more.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No. Yeah, if you're eating in Friel today and you've
got a family of we'll say four or five, yeah,
it's but the government shutdown, it's yeah, it's crazy. Chris
Cuomo had yesterday had you know, I love me some
Chris Cuomo. He had town hall at the Kennedy Center
with Steven A. Smith and and Bill O'Reilly. They came on.
(13:57):
But he had a whole host of people that kind
of through. He had Fetterman on, he had Jim Jones,
he had a congresswoman from Pennsylvania and I'm blanking on
her name right now. He had Mansion in and he
kind of fed them through. And they were talking about
the shutdown, and it was a town hall, so people
got to speak. And one of the people that came forward,
(14:18):
his last name was Chris. I'm blanking on his first
his first name, but he was an air traffic controller
and they were speaking about the shutdown and he said, listen,
I'm not getting paid. And he was wondering what could
they do to get it, to get things moving, And
he said, right now, what he's doing is and he
does it anyway, but he has to do it more
(14:40):
now to pay his daughter's tuition. Is he's working all
day unpaid as an air traffic controller, and then he
does door dash at night so he can bring in income,
so we can still make his daughter's tuition payment. Steve
Nist Smith actually got so agitated by it, like was
so touched. He spoke for a few minutes and he
(15:02):
got so heated. I think he was afraid he was
going to say something, so he said, you know what
I'm going to do. I'm going to leave, and he
left for a minute while they had a commercial, and
then came back. He said, because we're just hearing this
young guy who's working all day and he's not getting
paid during this this shutdown, he said, But everybody on
this stage, you know, because there were like five or
six congressmen or saturdays, he said, everybody he has getting
a check, he says, and nobody is motivated to move
(15:25):
it on. And then he just kind of he kind
of removed himself and it was still sort of the
party line. So the and I'll say Mansion was more
you know how he's becoming an independent now. He was
more democratic. He said. There's a couple of things that
are going on that are wrong with the government, he said,
first off, and I never thought of this flame. It
(15:46):
never even occurred to me. He said. Back in the day,
the senators and the congressman all lived in Washington, d C.
They were there for the most part. A lot of
them shared rooms, even different sides, Republicans, Democrats, Independence, they
would share like one bedroom apartment goes. They'd have bound
bunk beds, like literally like that, because even though it
sounds like a lot of money, it's not. When you
have to pay a rent and then pay for you
(16:08):
just got you know, just getting through saying you have
to pay for your three kids and wife at home,
you know, it was a lot, he said. So what
happened was they'd be relationships we've been made. We'd be
going out to eat you and I have joked about
that Ted Kennedy, like, you know, I'm from Boston, but
you'd hear Ted Kennedy tip O'Neil ed Moakley. He'd be
they'd be beaten with McCain and Biden and you know
(16:29):
people on the other side. They would battle it out
all day and then they would make those relationships. They'd
go to the steakhouse at night, have a bourbon and say, Okay,
I don't like this, but but you need it. I'm
going to vote for you. We need this in my state,
vote for me. And the deals were made that way,
he said. Nobody has those relationships. They come in a
Monday night for a vote, They're in the air by
(16:50):
Thursday afternoon. Nobody speaks to each other. He goes, there's
not there's no way you're gonna you're gonna vote or
try to help help a friend, because they're not friends.
They only know the name. They don't care, he said,
as long as it's like that. But he said, and
also back in the day they were asking what you
would do, he said, there would be a room at
the Roosevelt Room, for instance, and stick them all in
(17:11):
there and say, listen, the door is locked from the outside.
There's a bathroom in here you can all use until
you figure it out. We're not letting you out. He goes.
And that's basically what used to happen in the day.
That's not happening, he said, so until somebody speaks up.
And what really should be driving a lot of this
is the president figure it out, because ultimately, I know
in this administration they're not seeing it that way, but
(17:34):
it's gonna fall on him and we will see that
in the midterms depending on So I found it interesting
to kind of see them talk. But then Jim Jones
came in and goes, well, it's the Democrats because they
want these subsidies, and the subsidies are up and they
cost a fortune, and then he was going on and
on and on, and then of course the Democratic congresswoman
(17:55):
from Pennsylvania stepped in and she goes, listen, this is
what health cares about. We can't people just going to
emergency rooms and spending that cost more. The subsidies sound
like they cost more, but in the end, people are
getting here good care. This preventative prevented the medicine. So
they're not getting the cancer because they're getting their colon checked.
You know, they're getting the colonoscopes, et cetera, et cetera.
(18:16):
Now she says that, you know, there are ways that
we could work. She said, because when COVID came in,
there were a lot more subsidies given to people who
made more. Because, believe it or not, there are self
like you. You're self employed basically, so you work for yourself.
You have to get your own benefits. Blah blah blah
blah blah. She said, Well, if they're making two hundred thousand,
she goes, but they have to buy their own health care.
(18:39):
They can go and get some subsidies so it's not
costing them as much. Maybe we get rid of it
after a certain dollar amount. But people who are making
forty thousand in con get health care through benefits, you know,
through their employer. Excuse me, she said, we have to
still be able to help them out. But there's no
conversation like this happening because we're willing to give, but
we have to get in a room with people. Jim
(19:00):
Jones was going to go he was going to go
to the map, you know, for what the Republican Party
line is saying. So I was a little disappointed because
had he given a little bit more, you know, you'd
see a little hope. I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
It's an old bobby you get. You have so much
faith in Trump when he does a little thing. I'm
not saying he's celebrated, no, no, no, but you always found
a way. I'm not saying that he has the final
say so over this, but he is the one who
is dangling Apple and Mike Jones face Mike Johnson because
Mike Johnson has the Mike Johnson has the ability, the
(19:31):
capability and the power to call this, but he won't
because he is strong toilet paper. And that is it
right there, the law. They have chosen loyalists over people
that are qualified for those positions. All you had to
do was kiss the rain. That's a good episode. Kiss
the damn ring. If you kiss the ring, you get,
you get what you want. Because Bobby, there's no faith.
And sadly, people who voted for this and are going
(19:54):
to suffer behind this still have their faith in things
are going to be okay up under this man, up
under this administration. They are not. He is over and
he is overeasy right now making deals. Wheels are deals
caught on hot MIC's talking about how much care is
somebody get it and you can do business with his
sons since they're not in government. It's it's so much
(20:14):
going on by me right now. But guess what we
are not. We're focused on just the little things that
keeps happening as opposed to a big picture. But there's
no kings. They march. I don't know what I know
what message is going to see and I just don't
know what what change is going to make.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The only thing that when they have these marches is
that I think that so they see that people are
still angry. And that's what Stephen, Stephen A. Smith was saying.
And when he got so aggravated, he says, I don't
think people in Washington they either aren't aware or they
don't care that we're pissed. He said in plain English,
and I apologize to my language. He goes, said, the
(20:54):
people are pissed. I don't think you get it. I
think you think it's a sider. Both sides are angry
because I'm talking to both the Republicans that are pissed,
and they're not blaming the Democrats even though you're saying that.
So Bill O'Reilly came on and he said CNN had
some sort of pull that people are more upset with
the Democrats. But then he said, he goes, and what's
going to happen with that is and I think the
(21:15):
Republicans are taking that for granted and they're backing off,
he goes, And that's a big mistake, he goes, because
that could change on a dime. You know, the next
day they might say okay, and is All of the
Democrats that were on that stage said, how in the
world could it possibly be the Democrats where you have
the presidency, the House. You know, they just went down that,
(21:35):
you know, the seidate that it can't be they need
five of our votes now. Fetterman actually voted to keep
it open. He voted with the Republicans, but he was
honorable and why he wasn't trying to because he thinks
it's responsible. He also fears that it could potentially give
Trump too much power. You know if we if we
(21:58):
shut it down, that let's Trump do all these firings
in all of this nonsense.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Bobby, you know, I'm trying to see how I can
say this because I would hate for them to come
after us by me saying the wrong thing. But it's
not even about and I told you so as to this.
The people byby act like they want to experience and
I'm talking black folks right now, y'all, and like some
of y'all is like y'all want to experience what slavery
(22:26):
is and was. I don't think you really know the
barbaric nature of what You don't don't read the books.
You need to talk to an elder because there's still
something around that. Remember their grandmothers, tell them the actual
stories of what it was like. Because I don't think
you guys understand. And what fan the flame will right
(22:47):
be about tonight is they want to take away your
ability to vote, not just where how you vote. They
don't want you to be able to vote at all.
But we're going to get to that. But I don't
think you guys understand that this man is done some
kind of crazy mission. And I don't even think it
right at this point. I don't think it's even racist.
I think it's just I want all of it. I
(23:08):
don't want to leave a ga for nobody. I want
it all. Am taking some of my friends with me.
If they say anything I don't like, I'm getting rid
of them too. But I want it all. So I
do believe that he is on his way to try
to become a true dictator, and I think there is
gonna get sick of his ship and stand up finally,
including his own. Basically, Okay, we have enough and turn
(23:29):
it back on because y'all hurry up and do it please.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's power play. I agree with you. It's a I
don't know if it's even dictator. It's a power play.
And I don't even know if a lot of this
stuff is a it's a power a power player or
you know, a back end door he's trying to do
something with. And I'm so bad at this, I'm gonna
get it wrong. Some sort of crypto currency, some sort
of stabilized cryptocurrency. They have them in other they have
(23:56):
them in other And so you guys, I'm giving you
all homework to go and look into it, because I
don't want you to take exactly what I'm saying for
I'm giving you the gist. I don't have the detail. Unfortunately,
he is trying to set up this cryptocurrency where he
is sort of the lead. So it's almost like he's
getting rid of the treasury or something like so it'll
(24:16):
be our It'll be our money or our currency for
after he gets out of office and for his children.
So he's setting up this this whole you know deal basically,
and that's what a lot of these countries are that
that he's going into our I learned that again on
Chris Cuomo's Chris Crawl, a project he had a money
(24:40):
guy on and they were explaining it, and he was
asking all sorts of questions Chris of the bunny guy,
and uh, he said, I'm not even nervous over what's
happening in the economy right now. He goes what I'm
nervous about, and he talked about this, and I was
completely aware that any of this was going on, because
I don't know that crypto. It seems like voodoo to me.
You know, you see it, you don't see it. It's
(25:00):
not anything real you can put your hand on. So
I'm well.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I was about to say, by you know, we're dinosaurs,
that that is all new to us. But I think
we do need to take a class. I was going
to suggest this too. I think we all, everybody over
forty five should take an AI class because I do
think that AI is going to be the way of
the future. And I think we should take your class, Bobby.
I think we should take one, just so we can
stay at least close enough in the loop. We may
(25:25):
never get in the loop, but we can at least
stay close to the outside of it. Right. Abraham Lincoln
had a quote many years ago that says that nearly
all men can stand adversity. But if you want to
test a man's character, give him power, y'all Engave this
man the power that he has been seeking his whole life.
(25:47):
And he is losing his ship, Bobby, he really is.
And the only the downfall is the American people are suffering.
And you know what, Bobby, were all going through the ship.
You know, the way they're doing all these margins Ice
is just barbaric cameras, and they had their faces and
they grabbing innocent people off the street. You don't even
have to be They grabbing white folks, black folks, Indigenous folks.
(26:09):
They just grabbing innocent people. They got the fake ones
grabbing women. All of that. Bobby and a lot of
these people who supported him, I wonder do they actually
understand what they did? I wonder do they know their
role in their lives when they have to deal with
I had a hand in this because I know a
lot of people are taking those jobs from Ice, not
because they want to, because they have to. And he
(26:30):
has the fifty thousand dollars signing bonus, and it pays
one hundred thousand dollars a year full benefits. So it's
very enticing to take that job. But to hurt your
own can when you see we are clearly in the
middle of a race. Something that is like that, That
to me then becomes the question of do I value
myself and my culture, my people, or is it really
(26:53):
just about this money. But Bobby, because so many people
have lost their jobs, yourself included. Now at this point
we are hungry is about the money, Bobby. Unfortunately, yeah,
it is. And I don't think that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I am sure there is a percentage of people that
don't have good intentions, but I think the bulk of
the people that have those jobs are doing those jobs,
think they're doing it for some sort of reason, and
then they have to go and do the job, which
is tough. He had Holman on in that town hall
as well. He's going down.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
With the ship.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
He just believes that, you know, what he's doing is
exactly right. Because they were pushing them on why do
they wear masks? They should be some sort of Chris
was really pushing them. They should be some sort of
identification so if somebody does do something wrong, like the police,
they have a number. It's like our social Security number
or something, right, so they can identify us and you
could call in and say listen agent two, three four five,
(27:44):
and they know who they were talking about. And he
kind of pushed them on that, and he said, well,
because they're having their lives threatened and blah blah blah,
and so I just he's not gonna he thinks he
is getting the criminals well.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
On the plus, a federal Judge blacktaim from doing just
that today. She was like that in Chicago, they had
to have their body cameras on every part of ice
because it was they was they were just slamming us.
A lot of the a lot of those rioters were
non violent. They were just protesting, you know, verbally nothing
and they just yeah, they were shooting with pepper balls.
(28:18):
They shot a preacher in here with the prepper body.
They showed it. It's just crazy, Bobby. It is just
really outlandish the way. But this is what it was
promised before he got in office, and I think that
people didn't believe it. And now it's too late to say, oh,
we fucked around the fandout, because now we're in it.
How can we fix it?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, well, the midterms are coming and people have to
remember that. Don't forget it, you know, like they are
actually coming. So remember everything that you're not happy about.
Journal it, put it down so you don't forget. And
remember if this the big beautiful bill or now they're
calling it the working Man's Bill, the changes are not
(28:57):
going to happen till after We have to keep saying
on this podcast, they're not going to happen until after
the midterms. So don't when you go into the midterms think, Okay,
it's not that bad. No, it's not that bad because
they're not going to happen until I think the January
after that, and that's when it's going to get really,
really bad. I mean, he is the administration. He is
(29:18):
doing everything that he promised to do, except that he's
got one one problem. And the one problem is so
you know, our borders are closed and they're safer, if
you want to say that, regardless of the mayhem that's happening.
I don't feel like my pocketbook has any more change
in it. I don't know about yours. I mean, remember prices,
we're going to come down, So he's failing on that side.
I'd say, again, he over promised, that's all. If he
(29:40):
kind of kept it flat, I think we would have
been Okay. These tariffs cars are higher than anything. My
sister has to buy a car and she's like, my god,
they're so expensive and we don't even have a couple
of cars have good interest rates. But now you're going
to start getting hit with the big tariffs unless they're
made in America.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, and it's a scary Ribby what's super scary is
now when you want to travel abroad because so many
people I see so many people staying, they want to
get their passports and know I'm trying to get my
children's passports and on it as well, and just in case,
just in case we actually have to flee. But now,
because what happened that, whatever happened between the FBI and
(30:20):
the drug cartel, what's going over there in Venezuela with
all these attacks and strikes on all these different boats,
is that the cartel is they saying they're going to
grab American citizens. They didn't say what nationality. They don't
care as long as you're American. So now it's not
even you know, it's sketchy to travel. I'm not saying
that it's not safe, but you have to be very aware.
(30:42):
Now you should have been aware anyway going to a
foreign land, but now you have to be more on
high alert because now it's kind of some kind of
tip attack because they're over there fucking with Venezuela and
they are shooting. And he is so brave that with
his worrying about these other countries, that he know that
America has the power to dominate it is. It is
almost to the point of it's not even disrespectful. It's
(31:05):
to a point. But I challenge you like he wants
a challenge by me.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Oh, and he helps the people that he likes, I
mean Argentina. That was that crazy Chancell wielding a guy.
Argentina just gave him twenty billion as a bailow. What
about my biscuit's flame? All I needed was two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars to get those biscuits over to
(31:31):
the kids in the Sudan who needed them.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Is your birthday? Is your birthday? By me? Let the
biscuits go. Oh my god, let the biscuits go.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It kind of makes me that when we've already spent
all these millions and millions it probably costs to make
the biscuits, I am just stuck. Or give them. I
think they were in India at the time. I hope
to god they at least the Indians took the biscuits,
so they didn't because there were a lot of poor
kids there and that they didn't get totally wasted. That
that's the biscuits, and the contraceptor is a bug, and
they ever living shi t enemy. I'm over it though. Okay,
(32:00):
well let's keep going.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
So so as far as the terrorists go by me,
the poor farmers are really catching like just oh, it's
almost sad. But to think that some of them voted
for him, you know, you voted against your own interest.
I know he was forceful, and he seems strong and powerful,
but he was always never on your side. Y'all made
(32:23):
the wrong choice. A lot of these people are losing
their fines. Barbiyys have had their funds for generations because
of these terror. Prices are completely over the top, and
it is it's crazy by me. Car prices, the car
prices that have made history. You cannot buy a new
car now. The starting price for a new car is
(32:43):
fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, I couldn't afford it. I couldn't. I was trying
to lesser my bill. My car, my cheap pooped the
beat of one hundred thousand miles I got for sure,
I'd get two hundred thousand miles. I had no intention
of buying a car. I'd about used car. It's a
twenty eighteen. I got it last year. So it was
I a bought a six year old car, and that
was thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But a new car now, Bobby is fifty thousand, bigger price,
fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Nothing, that's a Toyota Wrap four, not even with all
the bells and whistles in it. And I'm like, and
then when you break that down, you know, I had
a down payment, but not a big bit down payment.
But I'm like, I kind of afford to, like a
thirteen hundred for discr Like I kind of ford you know,
a car payment that big, that was like half my
mortgage for the love of God and my taxes and
(33:30):
everything that was built into it. I said, I can't
be doing that anyway. I'm very happy with my used car.
I hope to God she gives me a few years
before dropping down.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We just we are really just in a and the
price of food is just it's just unbelievable. I don't
get any kind of assistance when it comes to food
stamps or anything like that. But Bobby, when I go
to the grocery store, listen and I go for the
essential sometimes bread, milk, eggs. But you know, Bobby, is
(33:57):
it's even easy eating? And then you look like, well,
what a minute.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
What the hell did I get I got two bags
of more snackies because we don't have like a normal
the way my house is set up, the kitchen down
it's the kitchens down on blah blah, so we eat
a lot of snack or sandwiches and stuff like that.
I came up with two bags of just like snacks.
My mother isn't even eating right now, as you know.
And it was it was seventy eight dollars and ninety
(34:24):
nine cents two bags. Two oh right here, two bags,
not even like huge bags. I'm like, sweet Jesus. And
ice was four bucks, like it was the craziest. So
that's what I was saying. It's not I mean, they're
saying that the US CNM was reporting, And Katie Kuric
also had had a piece this week saying that the
(34:46):
US consumers are bearing fifty five percent of the tariffs
so far that they've been able to collect and monitor.
You know how we weren't going to bear any of it,
wasn't none of it was going to come. But it
is coming, you know, just in super simple stuff that
you're purchasing. So yeah, I wish there was more effort
being put into that, and maybe not as much.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You know he used to be the overplaying in Egypt
and making deals with the Saudist and the guitars and
all that. Here you think about America, he is thinking
about himself and running it up. And I'm telling you,
I'm gonna say that one here. But it looks all
sketchy to me. And the scariest part is if if
he keeps speaking and it looked like he's going off
(35:30):
the rails, that's gonna be the overplay for the underplay
or the underplay for the overplay. Bobby, so listen and
he'll get away with it all. They can all just
point the finger of blame and they all get him.
So funny now, because I saw Mitchell McConnell. He was
being questioned by about something today and he grabbed the
assistant's arm and then he fake fail and then he
walked away because the assistant felt bad about asking a question.
(35:52):
It looked so it looked as real as that shot
that they're talking about, that attempted assassination. It looked as
real as that allegily.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'll tell you, yeah, they're saying that. I'll be very
interested to see if anything comes of it. Trump while
he's overseas while he's doing his uh, his tour is
going to go to and meet Putin and Budapeste. Let's
see if anything happens there. You know now that he's
on a roll with the other.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yes, I saw that. He said that he spoke with
President Putin for two hours and he told him how
he'd liked for him to give these so called super
JITs or whatever they are, over to the bombers to
Israel the fighting. But all that to me be just
wolf tickets coming out of Trump's mouth. He'd just be
selling us a dream because I don't even I don't
(36:43):
even believe he speaks to me in that capacity. I
do not personally. Uh. And with that, Bobby, can we
get the fan of the flame?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We certainly can. We can. We can roll on to
fan the flame. And that is about the voting and uh.
But the Voting Rights Act, which was back in the
sixties put In and they're looking to roll it back.
One of the things, one of the oral arguments that
was given was how and the justices came back and
(37:13):
we're asking questions, And one of the questions they came
back with was how long Ray should actually continue to
be a factor in redistricting, and analysts say that the
Justice is p to b poised to limit the Voting
Rights Act, and the Landmark Act was again was back
in the sixties. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I don't And all.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
They're going to do is turn around and they're going
to Jerrymander and they're going to pull it's going to
affect the Democrats overall. They're going to get rid of
all sorts of regions and areas that have been typically democratic. Well,
so it's going to be racial and democratic.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, and so as was pasted in nineteen sixty four.
And I'm telling you, Bob, I wasn't born to see.
I wasn't born in a you uh huh anyway. But
from the stories down this until my grandmother talks about
how they fought to get that bill passed, how many
people were being burned out of their homes, ostracized on working,
which meant which affected their family and they had to
(38:14):
relocate all of that. And for this generation to just
sign up for that because a lot of black he
has a lot of black supporters, there's a lot of
black mega y'all signed up for this. By me that
just I don't understand where you get so lost that
you don't know who you are or you don't remember,
or maybe that is why they're trying to ban books
(38:35):
and don't want you to learn your own history, so
you don't understand what it took for us to get
to where we were all just for them to get
ready to take it all away again, which is barbaria
to me because that's because you don't know, and that's
the ignorance on the black people. Pard But I think
that this was always the underplay for the overplay, because
if he can get controlled, especially of the black boat,
because they know that we black women especially are going
(38:57):
to rally to get cut the person they want and
minus the cheating, and I damn show believed that they cheated.
But this hurts. This hurts me as a black person
in this country, Bobby, to think that we have been
against our own interests. I understand the Latinos have done
it and so many other generations. I want to speaking
from my black experience, it hurts and it is so
disrespectful to U, to our forefathers, to our ancestors, that
(39:22):
we're doing this and we see what he's doing. It
ain't like he trying to add it or sink just
nod at all, right, and they just they just fall
for the okay, Doug, Bobby. It's it's kind of like
they're under a spell. Really it is.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I don't like when any rites. I mean, when the
voting first, when the slaves were first freed, they hadn't
they had the rights to vote. It was taken away.
Then systematically, state by state they started taking away and
they were terrified. The ones who could vote were terrified
to go against the farmer, other farmers and plantation owners
(39:58):
and whatnot around them. So they finally get back in
sixty four sixty five. And to see that, you know,
sixty years we're going backwards first, you know, we started
with abortion, and you know, and then we'll just one
rite run one after another. We're going to have less
than we had then. Does that seem than we did
(40:19):
in the seventh It just seems crazy to me, you know,
to our kids. I'm sorry, usually you want your kids
to have better and more in this generation for sure,
even with this stuff. Because of the economy and whatnot there,
I mean, it's a million and a half to buy
a house. You and I were having a personal conversation.
I said well, my parents bought their first house back
(40:41):
in sixty four. I think they did it with five
hundred down and the house was the cost of what
of my father's salary was that year. Could you imagine
buying a house? Well, even say you have a okay
salary one hundred thousand dollars, And I know in some
states some people might be going, oh, but if you
live in like Boston, California, New York, that it's not
a lot of money. You couldn't You couldn't get the
(41:02):
chair of that I'm sitting on in the area around it.
For that it's it's a million something. So there's just
no way to do it. So not only are we
doing it that way that they're gonna they're losing the
American dream, we're actually giving them less rights and less freedoms.
I believed. I grew up believing I could be anything.
My father thought I was going to be Miss America.
God bless him. He was misguided. But I thought I
(41:23):
could be the president if I wanted to. I didn't,
but I could. I could be anything that I wanted to. Kids,
they're gonna they're going to know their place.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, it isn't that sad. I'm very controlled. My biggest
firit that is coming down the pipe that keep hearing
is about these microchips a bit. They're looking to have
everybody microchips. About eight you won't be able to go out.
I don't need nobody. I don't need big brother inside
of me. I'm the top. I don't boyd them for nobody,
and that's bothering to me. So no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
I wouldn't mind the chip if if it it zapped
some of the fat off.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I'm bound nobody being able to control my man or
controller where I speak and think of the controller things
that I do. I need to be in control of
me at all times. But here at Leffelo List in general,
we thank you guys for joining us. Oh my god,
we had an episode this week and it's Bobby's big birthday.
Happy about birthday, Bobby Cliffer. I did so, yeah, I
(42:18):
did say so. I knew you weren't gonna get it
by your birthday, but you're gonna get it. You're gonna
be surprised when you get it too.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Better not better not hum, let's just say that in
the box.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Darl I already put the batteries in it, so get
ready listen here at Leffler Please I'm sorry. Please follow
me at Flame Monroe on all social media platforms at
Monroe Flame on Instagram. Monday, November the Green Party is
looking very good. You guys are band tickets, Get your
tickets on the event Bright. We'll be at Lifts, Atlanta Monday,
(42:49):
November third from five to nine. And I'm still on
to it with Tiffany Hattis. You can catch me in Blucky, Mississippi,
November the eighth and Birmingham, Alabama, November the ninth. Go
to tip he had to start competicket information and where
can we find you at Tints on your birthday?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Laughing Learn podcast on Instagram, at Clifford Bobby on Instagram,
Bobby Clifford on TikTok and Facebook.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
And with that, ladies and gentlemen, here at laugh and Learn.
The motto has not changed, can change, will not change,
and hopefully won't have to change because here's what it is.
Here are Laughingland. We are not trying to get you
to change your mind. We are only trying to get
you to use your mind. Because why Bobby, Because a.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Mind and your vote are a terrible thing to waste
and your voice. Complain, complain, complain, and hold your money
for things that you don't believe in.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Hold your money and no. King's March is Saturday. If
you're going to participate, I just asked that you keep
your ass on all sides of you in the words
at teachg if you heat it on a swivel, because
you may be protesting peacefully, but the people that's monitoring
you may not be peaceful. So please protect yourself and
be aware, beware and be intentional. This is slam and Row.
(44:02):
That is the birthday girl Bobby Clifford. This is Laugh
and Learn. Do says. Don't miss an episode of Laugh
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(44:22):
Our theme music is by the one and only Chrissy Payne.
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