March 6, 2025 • 52 mins
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, Flame Monroe joined by Bobbi Clifford dive into recent events, from the loss of notable figures to political debates surrounding President Zelensky's U.S. visit. They tackle issues like military readiness, racism, and the importance of public accountability in politics. The hosts also break down a heated congressional address, concerns over healthcare for transgender individuals, and the internal struggles within the Democratic Party. With a focus on truth, courage, and unity, they explore the messaging behind the American Dream and the future of U.S. politics—emphasizing the need for humanity beyond labels. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 3 (02:02):
No kids do what I do?
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No kis.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and Learnt. I
am your host, Flame Monroe, along with my beautiful co hosts,
Miss Tuts, Miss I can't miss Bobby, Hi Tuts, how's
a common Oh Bobby, I can't. I can't with the
word the word, but I can't. And when we get
into this episode, you're gonna understand why I just can't.
(02:46):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I feel like since Friday, we've it has been it's
I feel like it's been five months in a blank.
Oh my god, it feels like it's so long. We'll
we'll talk about all of it, but the mess last
night and then sweet Jesus. We we haven't even talked
about Paul as the landscapers and in the White House.
(03:08):
That's that feels like a lifetime ago.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
That happened before we take this take this week's episode.
We damn sure we're gonna get into it because I'm
telling you, we ain't doing no hot topics nothing. I
do want to maybe mention, Oh my god, we lost
so many artists and and people in the plants. We
probably we lost were burta Flack. We lost Chris. Was
that last week where Chris jet? That was that last week?
(03:34):
Look at me? Okay, come back to my Roe, come back.
Uh yeah, I'm sorry, y'all. I was having a biting
moment ship.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But we did find out poor Gene Hackman who died,
that it's not caba monoxide, that he's been dead. They
were dead for two weeks. That's like my that's like
my nightmare. They're going to have the bodycam footage of
the people going in, because some people are saying the
door was left right open and other people aren't. So
like they said, they just were able to walk right in.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So hold on, wait a minute, So it was not
common monoxide poisoning.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
They said, that's the one thing, but there are many
other poisons and stuff, and that will take weeks to
come back. But what they were able to immediately do.
And then the dog, of course was in the was
in the closet in a crate, which is you know,
people put them in with them when they sleep and stuff.
(04:30):
And they didn't tell us why the dog died. But
I'm sure he was starved to death or you know,
had no water or anything. So I don't think that
he's on there. I don't think that they're thinking he's
the same as as the two owners, but could be.
Who knows. So we'll find out if somebody had. They
weren't saying foul play, so who knows. But I what
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a weird way to go.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
It's very scary now. And I'm gona telling you something.
I've smelling a decomposing body before after like me too.
Oh my god, to smell this. Oh you never get
rid of that smail for two weeks. I can only
imagine Bobby, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Do you know one of my favorite movies he was
in was I happened to love the movie Bird Cage
And at the very end he was supposed to be
a senator or something, and he was trapped in this
drag club and they couldn't get them out, and so
they put Gene Hackman in drag and I thought it
was the funniest. He didn't think he was pretty enough.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
He was. He was so good in so many memorable movies.
I loved him in Enemy to the State where We'll
See I Love Love, loved him in Superman. Oh my
god that I loved him in the Original Superman with
Christopher Reeves. It was so many movies that he was
just fantastic seeing. Yeah, may he rest in peace. I
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didn't even realize that he was in his nineties. He
didn't he was in his nineties. I'm like, oh my god,
I loved him as a kid, so I didn't know
he was as old. Because that's that's the one beautiful
thing about theater and movies, because those people will forever
say that age in your mind when you see them
in that movie, so they'll always be that age. So
rest in peace to him and his wife and the
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poor dog Bobby. See, I'm not a big I'm not
big on caging animals. I just I'm just that's not
who I am as a person, and I'm a dog lover,
just like you would. Yeah, my dog, my dog run
this house. They run through the house. I can't do
it a cage.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Some like the crate though. So this was a dog.
They had just a little blurb of them. But it
was a rescue dog who had been returned twice. And
the wife took the dog and they meshed. Sometimes dogs
find a crate to be a place to go in
and decompress if they feel nervous. They supposed she was
a phenomenal trainer and the dog, the dog might have
wanted to be in there, you know. But whether the
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lock in she but she could. They could have been
when this happened. They could have been getting ready for
bed to go to sleep. And it could be there
are other dogs. You might not have this issue because
you've got multiple dogs. Some dogs don't get along with
the other dogs very well, you know, if they're led
to their own devices.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So Bobbie, okay, So Bobby is give y'all the very
watered down white woman versus let me tell you what
she just said that made me want to go straight
for a joke. And y'all forgive me if y'all think
it's too so well. She said the dog was a
rescue dog. It might needed to be rescued from now O. God,
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean, you are adopt don't shop first than yourself.
I shocked because I wanted the Burmese Mountain dog. I
won't do it again.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I mean I will.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I love the breed. I will really try to look
for a mix or something, because I just I just
adore the breed and I'd like a big dog. But
in call, we don't have a lot of free dogs
here in the Northeast, especially in Massachusetts. More you have
to go to like New York. But in California, you
guys have tons of stray dogs. Yeah, you know, I'll
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make the thing next time and make sure you know,
because I like a great Pyrene. I just like the
big dogs, you know. I just like the big boys
and girls.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So are you over compensating for something?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yes? If my ass is so big, I'm hoping the
dogs standing beside me will kind of counterbalance the double cheeks.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh my god, boy.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Next to me?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Oh my good. So ladies, let me tell you you
got something. This has been such a disparaging week in politics.
If you're an American citizen, just to see how everything
has really been playing out. We're going to start with
last Friday. There was a very public meeting in the
Oval Office with President Zelensky and Trump Advance because they
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will not get a title from me because they did
not conduct themselves like heads of state. So if you
don't act like a head of a state, I would
not refer to you as a head of a state.
But President Zelensky stood his ground, stood up for his country,
and I just thought it was my baracter where they
are bullying him and was trying to attack him, and
Trump was like, you owe me and you America did
(09:04):
this for you, and you would It was the way
they were going after him. And it was unheard of
and unprecedented to see a vice president be as vocal
as Vance was, because usually a vice president sits in
the corner and likes like kids, children should be seen
and not heard, and the vice president is usually seen
and I heard. But they were on a double attack
(09:26):
on Zelenski. And as I'm watching this unfold in front
of all of us, because it could have been public,
big fights in front of before with pens of states,
but we were never privy to it. We were actually
able to see this happen in real time and Trump
handed hand on in this man's face and his aggressive
tone with the old Braggley little hands, and he just
(09:47):
going back and forth with the man. But when he
said this is going to be great TV, I said,
that's all Trump ever wanted. If y'all really ever thought
about what all you ever wanted was great, was good TV.
They should have given him ten boy se of the Apprentice,
as opposed to one day in the Oval. You saw it, Bobby,
and I know we don't always agree on everything, but
(10:08):
as an American, I was mortified. How did you feel
as America?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
As a white woman, I was embarrassed. I think there
were a multiple It was a super multi layered whatever.
Do I believe it was a setup? I don't. Now
that doesn't mean that I don't think that Trump advance
discussed what was going to happen. And you say this,
and I say this in case something happens. From what
(10:34):
I can gather, Zelensky wasn't one hundred percent innocent here,
but she does not deserve He's a desperate man who
has been, you know, in a fight for three years,
and he's desperate watching little babies, lose limbs in their
lives and everything else. He was told that, you know,
to come in and don't talk about securities or whatever,
because what they're trying to do is, of course, Trump
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had the Russian press there, and what they're trying to
do is a peas or a suage Putin, right, So
they don't want to talk badly about Putin. They don't
want to show the atrocities that he's done. They don't
want to do any of that. That probably should have
happened at the lunch after. But I think that maybe
(11:18):
Zelensky didn't trust Trump and he wanted to make sure
he was getting it on record. Okay, so that's what
he owns, and I'll leave it at that. That said, when,
as you said, vance steps in the hell is he
to speak? He stirred the pot. Somebody said something about
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Zelensky wearing a suit. Who gives that was Marjorie Taylor
Green's boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
By the way, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Even believe that that's even a true thing, but I'll
take it from you. But who cares. I mean, the
girl can't even comb her here. I don't even want
to get her. And Bobert Bobert thought she was going
to a prom. Did you see you with the side
the side strap and her lack of bosom to even
hold up that. I'm like this, this bitch. Then she's
going to a dance. She's coming for a date in
the Congress, for Christ's sake, I mean, geez, I mean
(12:10):
she was in a theater house right, given a I
don't know what a happy ending. Maybe she thought something
fabulous was going to happen in Congress. I don't know.
I'm please. Well, they were all stiff faced, every single
solitary one of them. But the fact that they take
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a sitting president and to try to humiliate them. Now,
I think what happened is so if we had a
statesman Obama, Biden, I'll even say Bush, because Bush had
to behave with company, they would have turned that the
minute Zelensky whipped out the pictures. They'd say, you know what,
we're going to save that for the lunch and then, well,
(12:52):
you know, we'll discuss then, And they just would have
They would have turned the conversation you know today is
about we're going to sign a mineral deal after this.
Whatever they would however, they would handle it. They would
have handled it, but he didn't. He was watching when
I say, hey, I mean Trump, President Trump. He was
watching his big moment with Putin that he wanted Putin
to see how well he handled something go down the
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drain because the Lindsay didn't come in kissing his his
took us and telling them how wonderful he was and
rubbing his shoulders or whatever he was doing, teasing up
his his hir, sweet Jesus. If it gets any longer.
I saw the other day there was a wind caught it.
It almost sealed him away. If he hadn't had a
couple of extra hamburgers that day, he would have been
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up in the atmosphere. He it didn't happen like that,
and so he panicked, and so he started, you know,
he started being snippy.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I thought he had.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Panicky. He absolutely it became in a panic advance jumped
in saying that you can trust pump. We have a pump.
I made them like benefer hooting and Trump. I pumped them.
He said you could trust them, And I thought that.
(14:09):
President Zelensky said, well, how can you it through diplomacy,
which neither one of them were giving diplomacy. He said, well,
how can you, and he said, you know, we had
the Minsk Agreement gone. You know, he went through every
single solitary time that they had had a chance. It
was a great education for Vance. And he just turned
and said, so when when? How would you trust them?
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What kind of diplomacy? And then he says, have you
even said thank you? Have you ever walked into a
room and just said thank you? Thank you? Flying you
say at the end when something's happened. They haven't given
him anything. He has thanked the American people, President Zelensky
nine hundred and eighty two times. You can get a
clip with all sorts of different Timu suits. That's that's
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Trump's new thing. He got a suit out of Timo
his outfit, but he called it Temo. He doesn't even
know how to say the name because obviously he doesn't Shoppatimo.
He's that doesn't enough for everything that's already been given.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I just want to applaud President Zelenski for uh not
losing his cool. You could clearly see that he was
frustrated and he was aggravated with the double team attack
from these two people who represent our leadership in America.
That's what I'm gonna called it. They represent our leadership
in America. But he didn't blow his school and because
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he knew he what was at stake. It was not
about his personal feelings. He is fighting for his country.
So when the ridiculous reporter asks him, why did he
wear a suit, because he was showing respect that not
only does he stand ten toes down for his country,
but he stands with his country. Like you said, by me,
he's been in a war with Russia for three years.
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They're trying to acquire his country. They want the minerals,
they want the land, they want to they want to
seize everything, and he is fighting on the ground with
his people. No bones. First, he's start hiding in a bunker,
So if he dressed in a suit, it'll look like
he's above the Ukrainian people when he's actually standing right
in the middle finding out people for his country. And
(16:11):
a lot of people miss that. So I have great
respect for President Zelenski. I see that he does have
to come back around to get whatever he needs from America,
and I understand that, and I hope that he doesn't
have to grovel to do it, because the man is
fighting for his country, and his country is a sovereign
country which is an ally to the United States, and
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we don't want to lose that. We don't want to lose.
But somebody is chasing away all of our allies. Somebody
is chasing away NATO and everybody who has worked with
the United States. I was looking at a report earlier
Bobby or China. Apparently allegedly China has said they are
ready to go to war at any time with US,
but the US. Let me tell you something, I don't
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want a war period. I don't want any kind of
war nowhere, and I definitely don't want a war here.
And I don't want to go to war with China
because China gets those boys, they get them keids ready
for war when they start walking.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
They do although and we'll get to it. He was talking.
One of his fact checking facts from last night, Trumps
was he was saying that all of a sudden, there
were all these people going into the military, and He's
going on and on and on before his trans comments
and all of that, and that's it's not true. Under Trump.
It has been for the past year. We have seen,
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you know, incremental changes. I think they are up like
between ten and fifteen percent. So they believe, but that
had nothing to do with Trump. That's just they have
this new it's almost like a boot camp to the
boot camp. They have an icon think of the name
of it, and I should have pulled it up for
tonight's discussion. They have this new it's a camp where
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they can send people who are I don't want to
say their subpar. They might not be ready physically ready,
or they think they are, but they've been eating cheeseburd
in high school and whatnot, and all of a sudden
they get out and they're like, oh, I can't run
five miles. So this gets them ready intellectually because it
teaches them whatever is going to be on the test
or whatever you're going to have in boot camp and
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as well as the physical and so they have whatever
this camp is, I'm gonna I'll have to look it
up after. People are finding success with it, so it's great.
So they're doing this and then they're going to the
whatever week twelve week boot camp, and so people are
It's on the rise because I guess a lot of
kids that were trying out for it weren't physically fit unfortunately,
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which speaks to, you know, make America healthy.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Again. You know what, Bobby, I think that would be
a great idea if I wasn't worried about so many
racist kids going into something like they're getting prepared for
the wrong. They're not getting prepared to go to war
with other countries. They're getting prepared to go to war
with their own damn people from their own country. That
is the scary part. And we see it with these marches.
They walking around holding Nazi said Nazi would even like y'all,
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Nazis wouldn't even want You don't even understand the magnitude
of what being the Nazi is. That's the problem. That's
how even that they are, and just uninformed they think
they're given. Having a swatzka swatzika and throwing up the
Nazi sad with their hand makes them U what's his name?
Him would have probably annihilated you, Guss, because you would
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not as cribteria.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You had to be you had to be perfect, you know,
Hitler find out now, I don't know. I would love
if someone actually would pull DNA and do a DNA
test test on him, because supposedly he had a grandmother
that was Jewish. They would have lost his mind. You
can't have a bit of black, a bit of Hispanic.
You can't be Catholic or have any Catholics in your family.
You you obviously couldn't be Jewish, like there's so many
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Half of these kids wouldn't wouldn't qualify that that think
that they're the perfect specimens. They're not. You couldn't be swarthy,
and they didn't want like Greeks or Italians or the Italians.
In the end they allied.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
But so I get the idea of the Buchamp. But
racism is a learned behavior. So if they're already racist
as a kid, training them to fight to kill or
hurt or many other people is just going to give
them the ability to do it, not only to people
outside of by our country, just outside of their race,
because they think one way, because this is how they
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were brought up, this is what was taught to them,
this is what was instilled and grained into their DNA,
And it's a lot of the bs going around. So yeah,
I don't know, Bobby. I like the idea of that,
because as Americans, we are fed as heir, we all
out of shit. That's why everybody on knows Zmpic. You
can't take those in the military.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, actually no, you absolutely, you absolutely come, but will
go be. I mean, what's unfortunate. So I like that too.
Is something that has happened is Trump has stopped or
paused a military aid. He's also stopped sending information like
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the CIA is no longer sending information to the Ukraine.
Like it's this is these are people fighting for their lives.
They do not have to, they do not deserve to
have an intelligence pause. You know, if we have information
saying they're coming in the back door, we should be
sending it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But I've also seen people are outraged. They can't believe.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Not his base.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
His base thinks it's great. They don't get what an
ally is. They don't get. I just I don't understand.
I don't anybody that watched that. I was watching. Chris
Christy was on George George Stephanopolis this week this week Sunday,
and I thought he was he was pretty interesting, he said,
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you know, and he had had an alliance with Trump
because the GOP had asked him to make him better,
you know, like in his first term, get him ready,
because he had run at least a state, get him
you know, sort of government ready. And he said, the
one thing that he doesn't have is he has no empathy.
He said, I had gone over. He just doesn't have it.
He's not somebody that was born with it. It's like
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a missing link for him. He said. I went to
myself all the to Ukraine at the beginning of the war.
I went into Zelenski's office. He said. The windows were
all covered with the heavy burlap. The windows up against
the windows were all sandbags. He said, you could clearly
see he goes. And we weren't even quite a year yet.
You know the misery that this poor guy was going
(22:32):
into going in with what was happening outside. You could
hear the bombs and any He said, if Trump had
any empathy at all, he would be able to understand that,
like that's how you would have treated him like a
friend coming in. But he doesn't have it. And I
thought he thought it was disgraceful. He couldn't believe, he
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absolutely couldn't believe how we was treated and we was
absolutely bullied. And he said, but that's how he does
all his deals. He bullies every that to them all
he goes. Was I shocked, no, disappointed?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yes, Chris Christy, I said, he got it wrong. It's
our empathy is not the only one component. He's missing
a couple of other ones. They had something to do
with the wizard. They had something to do with the
Wizard of ours. What were they seeking? A heart, a brain,
and some courage? All three of those are missing. Cause
good God Jesus. Anyway, we just as from here, have
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to learn from here at I Heeart and Black Oppect Network,
I'm going to apologize on behalf of the country to
President Zelenski for the embarrassing way that you were treated
by our people, who we well, who they have elected
to be hit at the ahead of our state. Bobby,
I'm going to blame America for this. I just got
(23:46):
to say, I blame all of us for this situation
that we're in. We didn't vote for him, but I
don't know if we were vocal enough or took up
big enough staying to try to stop and fight this.
Not that I know what we could have done, Bobby,
because this money is winning, money is winning, and we
don't have money like that. Money is winning, But when
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is it going to be enough for the Republican Party
who used to be respected, who used to be admired
and looked at like, oh my god, they are the
they are the upper echelone of people in America. They
have allowed themselves to be taken down under the mat,
not to the mat, but under the mat by one
person because a bully and power and there's money that
(24:29):
subsequential that you threw all your values away because they
love how say Christian? They Christian, these Christian values Christian?
Shut up, flame molroll and she said that I don't
know if that that's what's working because I saw it
and say something real nasty. I don't know if that's
what's working for Bobby. But until we get a bunch
of Republicans with some serious mojo to say, hey, this
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is not who we are, this is not what America
is that can push back, I don't know what we
can do to stop this steamroller from rolling us over.
Because it's rolling us over. Bobby.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We've got to we've got to stand up. You have
to speak truth to power. I'm going to tell you
who I was proud who did speak up. So Vice
President Vance went to Vermont on a ski weekend with
his family, and let me tell you what he hit
up there in Liberland. There were the entire way from
the airport right and on till he was going to
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mad River. I think up in Vermont were protesters. I
don't like some of the language they were using, because
I know there were kids in the car, and I
don't like I don't like that. But they were holding
their Ukraine flags. They were telling them where he could go.
They were screaming they hope he got ice and he
slipped and some bad They were f bombinum. They were
(25:42):
so But that's what people need to see. We're not happy.
We're not happy with you, and not one or two people.
We're talking. There were only one line deep, line deep.
They weren't like twenty deep, but they were miles long.
This protest went, so he had a long way to
go in and his wife can see, his kids can
see that. People don't think their daddy is so great.
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They probably don't understand enough of it. But that's what
we have to start doing. We have to start showing
up to the town halls. We have to start calling
our Congress. We have to start doing protests like this.
That means, because that was disgraceful. I heard Trump say
in his speech last night, I'm going to take it
for what it's worth. I'm hoping this is good. That
(26:25):
Vladimir's Zelensky had written a letter apologizing, saying that he
wanted peace up up uh. I hope that's enough. But
kissing that he'll have to do. I'm sure it's not
going to be enough, because if they could do the
mineral deal, and I don't know if Trump didn't explain
it enough to Zelensky prior to that meeting. If we
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are aligned and we have financial interest in your country,
we have to come to your aid. You know, you're
one of our assets, so we have to. He's trying
to say stuff without saying it, and why do you
invite the press. That was the biggest mistake because you said,
we hear about Fdr In Churchill, who, by the way,
wore a jumpsuit for his negotiations at the White House,
(27:11):
and nobody bitched about that. He looked like he was
gonna hop under someone's car and change the Royal. They
were all at blows, you know, there were a whole
bunch of of Machi macks in the in the Oval
office and they were all but fist fighting, but nobody
saw it.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
So it did exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That's right, years later, not even then.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah, but now we actually got to see it on
fold for us in real time. And how disrespectful that was.
But gltitude run it up and opened up the door.
Let's go right into it. So last night he gave
his address to the was it to the Senate or
to the Congress?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It was to the it was to what was to Congress,
so you know, you got the House and the Senate.
It was to all it was to Congress.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And it was just ninety minutes of live lying. That's
what I call it the live lying show. Because nobody
fact checked him. He went on and on about this,
that and the third and going on now. He did
break some interesting points for me. Bobby I am. I'm
very afraid that he is going to as a transgender
(28:13):
person in this country, that he is going to stop
all kind of healthcare for transgender adults with children. I
kind of get it, This is my opinion, the opinion
of the show, but I kind of get that. But
with adults who have already living in their lives and
you know, coming to their own and decided this is
(28:35):
who I am, because that's already in you, I don't
agree with that. I think it's going to be a
lot of people very unhappy because of that. I don't
agree with some of that. I did see what he
said about the trends and sports and mova WU. But Bobby,
some of his says cutting medicare cutting Medicaid, cutting social security.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
He's not such an Exactly everything in Project twenty twenty
five is told, and they still they're supposed to have
everything on those nine hundred and would have many pages
completely executed by July.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
The first, Uh, we are what are we two months
in in? It's looking real, it's looking real, scary and sketchy.
They're looking like exactly what he's what he's saying that
it is going to happen like you said, but we
got to stand up. I only applaud. I wish that
the Democratic Party had balls like Nancy Pelosi because I
want to just give a shout out to Representative l
(29:29):
Green who got up and walked out because he just
couldn't take it. I personally thought the whole Democratic Party
should have got up and walked out. But the Democrats
are missing something. They need to go see the Wizard
because courage is a no no. Right now, the only
people who seem to have courage are the women are
the only people in the Democratic but I seem to
have other women.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I gotta say I disagree with you on us. I
liked that. I liked that the women were wearing because
the dee I and whatnot. They all wore pink I
like stuff like that, holding up friggin ping pong paddles.
What the hell is that? What are we in third grade?
You steal you? I wish they sat there mature, like,
(30:12):
don't come if you can't come, but you know you're
being paid to come. You pai paid in six He
is such a whack job that saying anything and speaking
anyway just validates him. He can twist it and look
at Pocahontas Elizabeth Warren like he had to make a comment.
She wasn't saying anything. She was just sitting there, like
(30:34):
I think when you act up, I don't know. I'd
rather just look just sit there and look and listen.
Should he have been removed? No, after Majorie Taylor Green
and whatever the weather? Wacko.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
That's what I'm saying about me, So I get what
you're saying about. Maybe the Democrats should have handed it
another way. But why when when the Republicans already laid
the base when President but Obama was the president, they
were comp literally, you lie. They called him by his
name and helped you from the floor. So let me
tell you something. That they laid the base. They laid
(31:07):
the base.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
No, I gotta President Biden was the president.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
They also would have go President Biden, but he went
back back and back toe to toe with them, So
they laid the base. This is how we could have
won this election. Have we had these balls and that
kind of gumption while fighting. We're we're passed the fight now,
we're in the damn war now. But have we had
this kind of uh, stand up and fight for yourself
or shout out or be a little more vocal or verbal,
(31:34):
we might not be here. So our problem there for
having a vote for being vocal now because we didn't
lay the foundation. They did. We just adding to it.
I know how they say sometimes you have to fight
fire with fire. By what I said before, the only
reason color I think Kala Harris should have gotten in
the dirt with Trump. I think she should have got
down in the dirt with him. That's how he wins.
(31:55):
He gets in the dirt, and he expects people to
have a presidential way or an American way that they're
not going to get down in a dirt with him.
That's how he wins.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
He I just yeah, I just I don't know. I
didn't like because when al Green came out, he was
so well spoken and his he had real vital reasons
for speaking. But do you think that that probably turned
Trump on having him thrown out and Johnson? I just don't.
(32:27):
I don't know. I'm you know what I was. I'm
sitting here looking and I'm not being rude. I'm listening
to everything that you're saying. A Democratic representative from Texas,
Sylvester Turner seventy passed away right after after leaving. He
must have had a heart attack on his way out,
so it's an open seat. So you know where my
mind went immediately, I was hoping to God that he
was a Republican and we might have a chance at
(32:49):
the siege. But I'm trying to see. You know, some states,
if a if a senator or or a congressman passes,
the governor of the state can appoint appoint somebody. So
that's what I was trying to look. I'm trying to
see do they have to have a hearing, do they
(33:10):
get appointed? Do they have to have an election? And
I can't it's too it looks like a little document.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I can't read it. Under this administration, it won't matter.
They're making up the rules as they go along. They're
changing the damn constitution right about face. So, but they're
trying on what you said, Mike Johnson being excited. He
shouldn't have been too excited because the news immediate reports
that his chief of staff was arrested by driving drunk
on the d U A. Let's see if we hear
(33:35):
any more about that after.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I wonder, I wonder, my god, he probably was like
Jesus Christ, this is what I'm this is what I'm
working with. Had a few while he was sitting in there. Yeah,
but I saw I saw people magazine put that out.
There are a lot of news media put it out,
but that was the last one that I saw, and
I thought, oh god, uh, I mean the fact checking
that with that went on with that, I can't even
(34:02):
like everything that came out of his mouth. Everything that
came out of his mouth wasn't true.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Like it was called a live lie.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It was he was I'm thinking about the fact checking
the whole thing. So usually it's a little partisan. The
last time, the last time that President Biden spoke, he
never mentioned Trump's name. I don't believe, but he we
clearly knew who he was thinking about, not President Trump.
He came right out and bashed everybody, anybody and everybody,
(34:39):
and a lot of the stuff like we were talking about,
it's stupid stuff. I mean, it's all checkable. So I
just don't know why he bothers. He has that five
million dollar citizenship be selling. Remember that's been around, not
a five million dollars at a million was the loss
that that President Biden checked it at twenty twenty two
(34:59):
and he had just at it. But it's been in
since the first Bush. And it's called EB five and
you have to come. You have to take your five
million dollars and put it into a company here in
this country that brings it jobs as a whole formula
that you have and during that time, if you keep
your powder dry and your nose clean, you can apply
for citizenship because maybe your business really takes off, you know,
(35:21):
maybe another apple, and you know you have to be
here too. So it's a lot, so, but he's making
it sound like something that he has created. Not true.
Eggs were so expensive, No, they weren't. Inflation was coming down.
At the highest they were was in twenty twenty two,
when we also had the bird flu had come out.
(35:42):
We was still coming off of prices for COVID. Unfortunately,
we all know that prices don't come back down. Like
people who are waiting for them to come down, just ask,
just pray for stabilization. They're never coming back down unless
there's a price reset, like something huge happens, like a recession.
I don't want a recession. Blame you know, no money
(36:02):
gets spent on a recession. So they have to bring
the prices down. So he's talking like they're going to
do something great. Funny when Biden had the bird flu,
he was a bomb, but the prices were coming down.
And now all of a sudden, Trump has a bird
flu and it's Biden's fault that there's the bird flu it.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Well, of course it was the blame game, Bobby. He
blamed Biden, Blame Obama, he blamed he blamed Clinton. He
he would blame anybody as opposed to taking any responsibility
for anything negative. Because he wants to make it like
he is a natural snake charmer and he is a
snake charmer because he has charmed the hell out of snakes.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Good dab, Yeah, he really. It's it's shocking to see
the people that come out and they kind of stand
by it, like I am sure his face. I mean,
the reason he came out and he did this because
he doesn't have to. He didn't have to do this.
But they're saying that he's at forty forty eight percent,
but his poll numbers with his base are dropping and
(37:02):
he needs to speak to his base, he needs to build.
That was all just for his base, so they he
lies and they believe it. But nobody expects a whole
hell of a lot at six weeks he has he
has done a lot. He was going to say he
was going to do a lot for the country on
day one. He has chaos. He is the king. He
is the king of chaos. He has everything is such
(37:26):
a hot mess. Is seventy thousand they're talking about seventy
thousand veteran affairs people being laid off. Remember he's big
for the vets, but how do we know people are
going to get their benefits and stuff is going to
be doled out the way it's supposed to if we
don't have people to dole it out. Now, you know,
he had the Democratic responsees today. I liked her, Senator
(37:50):
Alissa Slockin. I believe she Minnesota. She's somebody. I liked her.
She came and she made a couple statement's flame. You know,
we're always talking about about the messaging, right, she made
a couple of statements that have got were great, like basically,
(38:11):
you know, we had the American dream and these are
the things that we expected and that's all gone. Yes,
that's how you talk to people. You agree with them
because it's true in Michigan. I wasn't sure if she
was Michigan Minnesota. I really liked her. I think that
I got you is very powerful. I don't know if
what would have made that more powerful and I lost
(38:32):
you is Wouldn't it been great if we got one
of somebody that would be good at it, well spoken,
one of these people that have just been laid off
that say, you know, I worked thirty years for Veterans'
Affairs and now I have no job and go through
all of the things, you know, the same type of
speech and let people actually see a real person that's
lost the job, because and lets it affect you. They
(38:54):
just don't believe it's actually them. You know, it's not
gonna affect me.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
I was, yeah, I was high off. I think that
whatever we're going to do, we definitely need well, I'm
going to say the Democratic Party because I'm telling you
right now, right now, I'm independent. I'm a free thinker
because I'm not rolling with having dependents are doing I
mean like the Democrats are doing. I was pighly offended
that he attacked personally attacks Stacey air Rooms because of
the great work that she does. Anybody that's outshining him
(39:21):
bothers him. So it's going to be a problem. But
he did introduce now he said something last night doing
this doing this speech that I was like, okay, so
y'all missed this whole thing that he said he was
only working with elected officials. But then he introduced Elon
Musk as head of DOGE. Who voted for Elon Musk?
What what campaign did he run in William Body? Because
(39:42):
then what it's words the president said he was only
working with elected officials. It won't be no more unfairness.
But then he introduced Elon must as head of DOGE
and I don't remember him having a campaign. I don't
remember him having an election. I just remember him being
appointed that position from Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
No, I think you're exactly right. And he was up
in the gallery and something else that I thought was
just distasteful as he used all he brought all of
these people in, who, honest to God, must have been
hungry for some sort of attention. And that poor little
baby that had had whatever the cancer is that they had,
and that father holding them up. I wanted to punch
him in the throat. He's and they're all waving at
(40:23):
him and like oh hey, and uh, and I'm thinking,
what what do you do?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Who camera see? Not one of these subjects that you're
talking about with these people means anything like it. I
don't get it. I don't get the other of that.
It made me sit. Everybody keep saying it was one
hundred minutes. I was stuck at at my table for
two solid hours. He didn't end until after eleven, and
maybe he was a little late, but I had to
watch his fat ass go by in the in the
(40:48):
limousine please, and his wife, and oh please, I kind
of liked de roth. Though I will say she's looking
a little better. She's gonna tease her hair or something.
Something's going on her hair.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Okay, I'm now that we're gonna disagree, so but be
done that lady, be stamped. Every time I like her
hair is looking you know what it is.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
You hit fifty and then all of a sudden, you
kind of lose a little bloom in your hair, like
it becomes finer and it doesn't have as much, you know,
kind of umped. So they got to I don't know,
she needs a little They're gonna I don't know. I'm
a nineties girl, so I want a little I want
a little hype.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
You need some volume.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
She has no volume.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
She's she is.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
She used to have volume, but she's been robbed. But
I thought she looked great. She actually smiled. I was
a little shocked. I liked a little, a little natural smile.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Such a such a poor quality of watching. America so divided,
and the Democrats, rightfully so did not stand up and
applaud I personally, they should all stood up. I thought
they should all have returned their back to him.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
He would have loved it. Though, see, he would have
loved it and he would have fed off it by
saying nothing. If they all had the face is do
you know who who? I was shocked. The military, nobody
was clapped, and nobody was doing anything. The Supreme Court.
I don't believe Thomas went or short with the black hair.
(42:16):
I can't think of her name. Oh my god, I can't.
I'm having like a menopause moment. There were two of them.
Did that didn't come and he did go over it
and thank the Chief Justice. I don't know what the
hell he was thanking him for because.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
He didn't vote for him for community, he said. He
said he was thanking him for community.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Oh my god, Well he didn't surprise he He's they
did not vote Trump's way for the aid that's supposed
to be paid out. They they said that they're going
to go by the lower court whatever. The lower court
court said that that's it. Uh, so you know, uh
(42:55):
there is.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Go ahead, no, no, no, you go about and finish
your college.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I was going to say, I think they really are
going by the letter of a law. So if there's
any wiggle room flame, maybe they can wiggle out of it.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
But if the if the.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Law says and the Constitution says acts. They are standing
by the Constitution. Now if just like the immunity for
the for the president, or even the laws that Scotus
has to follow themselves, if it wasn't put into the Constitution,
and it wasn't the word on guide rails, then then
they have wiggle room and they can they can give
(43:30):
a give them immunity for acts that he does. That's
for the country.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
I have great empathy for the military people who are
identified as transgender and are being banned or kicked out
or whatever. I watched the general speak today on TikTok
I believe it was I can't remember his name, and
he was like, it doesn't matter what you identify as,
if you're fighting for your country. We we just want,
you know, we need bodies. We need people to stand
for us, for our He was like, when you're in
(43:57):
that time, you don't care who saves your life, who
pools you out, what they identify ads you just you know.
And I thought it was like, if only everyone saw
each other as human as that, we would even be here.
But we have made such differences between race and identity
and socialism and a size and age, and that is
(44:20):
why we are so separated, because we won't just come
to guy and remember that we're just a human race.
But listen, this is where we are. And after watching
him speak last night, I was very glad that I
did not vote for Donald Trump. And let me just say,
I was very glad that I did not match. Now
it did make a difference because he's still the president.
But I'm with myself. I can look at the mirror
and say, thank you, flaming my role or my other name,
(44:43):
that you did not waste your vote because I saved
myself from being able to say I was trying to
be on a winning team, or I think he was
gonna make real change. He is making change. He's making
real change.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
He's making real change. Not in a positive fashion, but
he's making real Chane and back to the trans in
the military.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Making real change. I'm in his purse.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, Oh, he's making a lot. He's not making change, honey,
He's making bazillions, and so is musk Off the backs
of by all these deals that somehow aren't conflicts of interest.
But the trans in the military, I'm with you, like
it doesn't make a difference. I mean, what what are
they doing, Like, how would you even know somebody was
trans that they're whipping out a bedazzler and doing their
cholera Like, who cares? As long as everybody's in the
(45:30):
camouflage and you're does it really make a difference. You're
not asking, I say, you're not recruiting, you know, one
way or the other. I'm not saying to come over
to me. I am heterosexual and you're not. Sexuality has
nothing to do with it or how you identify it.
I just don't get it. It's you're a soldier, and
that's that circumstance. It's sort of like the police. They're blue.
(45:52):
Their blood is blue. It's not black, it's not white,
it's blue. They all identify as as a group. Same
with the military or all just soldiers. They got green.
So I don't understand what the big deal is if
you're willing to fight and put your life for mine,
God bless you.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
But you know, this takes me to the reference of
my favorite, favorite, favorite, favorite favorite episode of all in
the Family. Archie gave the character of Beverly Lassall, who
was a drag queen to transvestor at that time in
the seventies, wrapped the mount for suscitation. So here's the
vice versa. If Archie was dying and the Beverly or
(46:31):
a trans woman or a drag queen or whatever you
it was something that you were completely against, was there
and that was the only person that could give you
mouth to mouth resuscitation to save your life. Would you care?
That's the question. Would you have to ask yourself? Would
you care? Now, let me tell you something. If your breathtak,
let me die, just let me go straight out.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I don't think art you would have minded, well, not
not minded. I think you would have taken it. But
he might have given him one of these.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
But you know, and that's how you have to look.
Get us in there because you never know what situation
life is going to throw at you and where you
will be. So if you about, you know, and they
have some of the superhead row, I mean heavy on
the head of row. Sexual man out here who just
so that's not they get down. They don't hate gay
or whatever, but it's just not for them. But you know,
they have to ask himself, would I be willing to die?
(47:18):
Or if I was next to this person in the
elevator and nobody could be we were suck and I
was dying stuffing. If they gave me mouth to mouth
and save me. Because you got a wife and kids,
you're gonna get home too. The scariest part, Bobby, is
you be afraid that the person would live and then
be like, uh, you kiss me and they retaliate and
do something crazy. That is the kind of situation we
(47:40):
live in right now.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Well that's what we're being set up. I don't know
if we're actually living in it, but I know that
that's what he's setting us up for. You know, it's
more division everything he's trying to do. It's how everybody
says that he does business. I haven't paid attention to
him enough because he had so many bankruptcies. I wasn't
thinking he was the best sal know businessman in the world.
(48:02):
But you know clearly that's how he likes the mayhem
and then he tries to come in for the kill
or for whatever. God bless him and God bless you.
All I can say is if the Democrats can can
pick a message, clean it up, if it could be
more like this this young woman last night, Alyssa Slockin.
(48:26):
You know, I think we might we might get a
little ware we might walk right on in to the midterms,
which would be terrific.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
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Come in with last and come in with Jim Love
Lamb's Baby you better catch it when you can't drop
a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just
paying homage, what's up? Tips? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
She ready shot towns one speaking to the grown a second.
We gonna last cut him and kick it in at
the end, we leave it with just a lifted spirits
make you want to revisit, so you first take a listen.
Young folks say it's slip. Old folks say we dig it.
H ain't no fish do what you do? Do what
you do?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
No kids do what I do?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
No kis.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and Learnt. I
am your host, Flame Monroe, along with my beautiful co hosts,
Miss Tuts, Miss I can't miss Bobby, Hi Tuts, how's
a common Oh Bobby, I can't. I can't with the
word the word, but I can't. And when we get
into this episode, you're gonna understand why I just can't.
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I can't.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I feel like since Friday, we've it has been it's
I feel like it's been five months in a blank.
Oh my god, it feels like it's so long. We'll
we'll talk about all of it, but the mess last
night and then sweet Jesus. We we haven't even talked
about Paul as the landscapers and in the White House.
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That's that feels like a lifetime ago.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
That happened before we take this take this week's episode.
We damn sure we're gonna get into it because I'm
telling you, we ain't doing no hot topics nothing. I
do want to maybe mention, Oh my god, we lost
so many artists and and people in the plants. We
probably we lost were burta Flack. We lost Chris. Was
that last week where Chris jet? That was that last week?
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Look at me? Okay, come back to my Roe, come back.
Uh yeah, I'm sorry, y'all. I was having a biting
moment ship.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But we did find out poor Gene Hackman who died,
that it's not caba monoxide, that he's been dead. They
were dead for two weeks. That's like my that's like
my nightmare. They're going to have the bodycam footage of
the people going in, because some people are saying the
door was left right open and other people aren't. So
like they said, they just were able to walk right in.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So hold on, wait a minute, So it was not
common monoxide poisoning.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
They said, that's the one thing, but there are many
other poisons and stuff, and that will take weeks to
come back. But what they were able to immediately do.
And then the dog, of course was in the was
in the closet in a crate, which is you know,
people put them in with them when they sleep and stuff.
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And they didn't tell us why the dog died. But
I'm sure he was starved to death or you know,
had no water or anything. So I don't think that
he's on there. I don't think that they're thinking he's
the same as as the two owners, but could be.
Who knows. So we'll find out if somebody had. They
weren't saying foul play, so who knows. But I what
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a weird way to go.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
It's very scary now. And I'm gona telling you something.
I've smelling a decomposing body before after like me too.
Oh my god, to smell this. Oh you never get
rid of that smail for two weeks. I can only
imagine Bobby, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Do you know one of my favorite movies he was
in was I happened to love the movie Bird Cage
And at the very end he was supposed to be
a senator or something, and he was trapped in this
drag club and they couldn't get them out, and so
they put Gene Hackman in drag and I thought it
was the funniest. He didn't think he was pretty enough.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
He was. He was so good in so many memorable movies.
I loved him in Enemy to the State where We'll
See I Love Love, loved him in Superman. Oh my
god that I loved him in the Original Superman with
Christopher Reeves. It was so many movies that he was
just fantastic seeing. Yeah, may he rest in peace. I
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didn't even realize that he was in his nineties. He
didn't he was in his nineties. I'm like, oh my god,
I loved him as a kid, so I didn't know
he was as old. Because that's that's the one beautiful
thing about theater and movies, because those people will forever
say that age in your mind when you see them
in that movie, so they'll always be that age. So
rest in peace to him and his wife and the
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poor dog Bobby. See, I'm not a big I'm not
big on caging animals. I just I'm just that's not
who I am as a person, and I'm a dog lover,
just like you would. Yeah, my dog, my dog run
this house. They run through the house. I can't do
it a cage.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Some like the crate though. So this was a dog.
They had just a little blurb of them. But it
was a rescue dog who had been returned twice. And
the wife took the dog and they meshed. Sometimes dogs
find a crate to be a place to go in
and decompress if they feel nervous. They supposed she was
a phenomenal trainer and the dog, the dog might have
wanted to be in there, you know. But whether the
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lock in she but she could. They could have been
when this happened. They could have been getting ready for
bed to go to sleep. And it could be there
are other dogs. You might not have this issue because
you've got multiple dogs. Some dogs don't get along with
the other dogs very well, you know, if they're led
to their own devices.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So Bobbie, okay, So Bobby is give y'all the very
watered down white woman versus let me tell you what
she just said that made me want to go straight
for a joke. And y'all forgive me if y'all think
it's too so well. She said the dog was a
rescue dog. It might needed to be rescued from now O. God,
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean, you are adopt don't shop first than yourself.
I shocked because I wanted the Burmese Mountain dog. I
won't do it again.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I mean I will.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I love the breed. I will really try to look
for a mix or something, because I just I just
adore the breed and I'd like a big dog. But
in call, we don't have a lot of free dogs
here in the Northeast, especially in Massachusetts. More you have
to go to like New York. But in California, you
guys have tons of stray dogs. Yeah, you know, I'll
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make the thing next time and make sure you know,
because I like a great Pyrene. I just like the
big dogs, you know. I just like the big boys
and girls.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So are you over compensating for something?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yes? If my ass is so big, I'm hoping the
dogs standing beside me will kind of counterbalance the double cheeks.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh my god, boy.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Next to me?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Oh my good. So ladies, let me tell you you
got something. This has been such a disparaging week in politics.
If you're an American citizen, just to see how everything
has really been playing out. We're going to start with
last Friday. There was a very public meeting in the
Oval Office with President Zelensky and Trump Advance because they
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will not get a title from me because they did
not conduct themselves like heads of state. So if you
don't act like a head of a state, I would
not refer to you as a head of a state.
But President Zelensky stood his ground, stood up for his country,
and I just thought it was my baracter where they
are bullying him and was trying to attack him, and
Trump was like, you owe me and you America did
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this for you, and you would It was the way
they were going after him. And it was unheard of
and unprecedented to see a vice president be as vocal
as Vance was, because usually a vice president sits in
the corner and likes like kids, children should be seen
and not heard, and the vice president is usually seen
and I heard. But they were on a double attack
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on Zelenski. And as I'm watching this unfold in front
of all of us, because it could have been public,
big fights in front of before with pens of states,
but we were never privy to it. We were actually
able to see this happen in real time and Trump
handed hand on in this man's face and his aggressive
tone with the old Braggley little hands, and he just
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going back and forth with the man. But when he
said this is going to be great TV, I said,
that's all Trump ever wanted. If y'all really ever thought
about what all you ever wanted was great, was good TV.
They should have given him ten boy se of the Apprentice,
as opposed to one day in the Oval. You saw it, Bobby,
and I know we don't always agree on everything, but
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as an American, I was mortified. How did you feel
as America?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
As a white woman, I was embarrassed. I think there
were a multiple It was a super multi layered whatever.
Do I believe it was a setup? I don't. Now
that doesn't mean that I don't think that Trump advance
discussed what was going to happen. And you say this,
and I say this in case something happens. From what
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I can gather, Zelensky wasn't one hundred percent innocent here,
but she does not deserve He's a desperate man who
has been, you know, in a fight for three years,
and he's desperate watching little babies, lose limbs in their
lives and everything else. He was told that, you know,
to come in and don't talk about securities or whatever,
because what they're trying to do is, of course, Trump
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had the Russian press there, and what they're trying to
do is a peas or a suage Putin, right, So
they don't want to talk badly about Putin. They don't
want to show the atrocities that he's done. They don't
want to do any of that. That probably should have
happened at the lunch after. But I think that maybe
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Zelensky didn't trust Trump and he wanted to make sure
he was getting it on record. Okay, so that's what
he owns, and I'll leave it at that. That said, when,
as you said, vance steps in the hell is he
to speak? He stirred the pot. Somebody said something about
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Zelensky wearing a suit. Who gives that was Marjorie Taylor
Green's boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
By the way, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Even believe that that's even a true thing, but I'll
take it from you. But who cares. I mean, the
girl can't even comb her here. I don't even want
to get her. And Bobert Bobert thought she was going
to a prom. Did you see you with the side
the side strap and her lack of bosom to even
hold up that. I'm like this, this bitch. Then she's
going to a dance. She's coming for a date in
the Congress, for Christ's sake, I mean, geez, I mean
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she was in a theater house right, given a I
don't know what a happy ending. Maybe she thought something
fabulous was going to happen in Congress. I don't know.
I'm please. Well, they were all stiff faced, every single
solitary one of them. But the fact that they take
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a sitting president and to try to humiliate them. Now,
I think what happened is so if we had a
statesman Obama, Biden, I'll even say Bush, because Bush had
to behave with company, they would have turned that the
minute Zelensky whipped out the pictures. They'd say, you know what,
we're going to save that for the lunch and then, well,
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you know, we'll discuss then, And they just would have
They would have turned the conversation you know today is
about we're going to sign a mineral deal after this.
Whatever they would however, they would handle it. They would
have handled it, but he didn't. He was watching when
I say, hey, I mean Trump, President Trump. He was
watching his big moment with Putin that he wanted Putin
to see how well he handled something go down the
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drain because the Lindsay didn't come in kissing his his
took us and telling them how wonderful he was and
rubbing his shoulders or whatever he was doing, teasing up
his his hir, sweet Jesus. If it gets any longer.
I saw the other day there was a wind caught it.
It almost sealed him away. If he hadn't had a
couple of extra hamburgers that day, he would have been
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up in the atmosphere. He it didn't happen like that,
and so he panicked, and so he started, you know,
he started being snippy.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I thought he had.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Panicky. He absolutely it became in a panic advance jumped
in saying that you can trust pump. We have a pump.
I made them like benefer hooting and Trump. I pumped them.
He said you could trust them, And I thought that.
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President Zelensky said, well, how can you it through diplomacy,
which neither one of them were giving diplomacy. He said, well,
how can you, and he said, you know, we had
the Minsk Agreement gone. You know, he went through every
single solitary time that they had had a chance. It
was a great education for Vance. And he just turned
and said, so when when? How would you trust them?
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What kind of diplomacy? And then he says, have you
even said thank you? Have you ever walked into a
room and just said thank you? Thank you? Flying you
say at the end when something's happened. They haven't given
him anything. He has thanked the American people, President Zelensky
nine hundred and eighty two times. You can get a
clip with all sorts of different Timu suits. That's that's
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Trump's new thing. He got a suit out of Timo
his outfit, but he called it Temo. He doesn't even
know how to say the name because obviously he doesn't Shoppatimo.
He's that doesn't enough for everything that's already been given.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I just want to applaud President Zelenski for uh not
losing his cool. You could clearly see that he was
frustrated and he was aggravated with the double team attack
from these two people who represent our leadership in America.
That's what I'm gonna called it. They represent our leadership
in America. But he didn't blow his school and because
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he knew he what was at stake. It was not
about his personal feelings. He is fighting for his country.
So when the ridiculous reporter asks him, why did he
wear a suit, because he was showing respect that not
only does he stand ten toes down for his country,
but he stands with his country. Like you said, by me,
he's been in a war with Russia for three years.
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They're trying to acquire his country. They want the minerals,
they want the land, they want to they want to
seize everything, and he is fighting on the ground with
his people. No bones. First, he's start hiding in a bunker,
So if he dressed in a suit, it'll look like
he's above the Ukrainian people when he's actually standing right
in the middle finding out people for his country. And
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a lot of people miss that. So I have great
respect for President Zelenski. I see that he does have
to come back around to get whatever he needs from America,
and I understand that, and I hope that he doesn't
have to grovel to do it, because the man is
fighting for his country, and his country is a sovereign
country which is an ally to the United States, and
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we don't want to lose that. We don't want to lose.
But somebody is chasing away all of our allies. Somebody
is chasing away NATO and everybody who has worked with
the United States. I was looking at a report earlier
Bobby or China. Apparently allegedly China has said they are
ready to go to war at any time with US,
but the US. Let me tell you something, I don't
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want a war period. I don't want any kind of
war nowhere, and I definitely don't want a war here.
And I don't want to go to war with China
because China gets those boys, they get them keids ready
for war when they start walking.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
They do although and we'll get to it. He was talking.
One of his fact checking facts from last night, Trumps
was he was saying that all of a sudden, there
were all these people going into the military, and He's
going on and on and on before his trans comments
and all of that, and that's it's not true. Under Trump.
It has been for the past year. We have seen,
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you know, incremental changes. I think they are up like
between ten and fifteen percent. So they believe, but that
had nothing to do with Trump. That's just they have
this new it's almost like a boot camp to the
boot camp. They have an icon think of the name
of it, and I should have pulled it up for
tonight's discussion. They have this new it's a camp where
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they can send people who are I don't want to
say their subpar. They might not be ready physically ready,
or they think they are, but they've been eating cheeseburd
in high school and whatnot, and all of a sudden
they get out and they're like, oh, I can't run
five miles. So this gets them ready intellectually because it
teaches them whatever is going to be on the test
or whatever you're going to have in boot camp and
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as well as the physical and so they have whatever
this camp is, I'm gonna I'll have to look it
up after. People are finding success with it, so it's great.
So they're doing this and then they're going to the
whatever week twelve week boot camp, and so people are
It's on the rise because I guess a lot of
kids that were trying out for it weren't physically fit unfortunately,
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which speaks to, you know, make America healthy.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Again. You know what, Bobby, I think that would be
a great idea if I wasn't worried about so many
racist kids going into something like they're getting prepared for
the wrong. They're not getting prepared to go to war
with other countries. They're getting prepared to go to war
with their own damn people from their own country. That
is the scary part. And we see it with these marches.
They walking around holding Nazi said Nazi would even like y'all,
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Nazis wouldn't even want You don't even understand the magnitude
of what being the Nazi is. That's the problem. That's
how even that they are, and just uninformed they think
they're given. Having a swatzka swatzika and throwing up the
Nazi sad with their hand makes them U what's his name?
Him would have probably annihilated you, Guss, because you would
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not as cribteria.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You had to be you had to be perfect, you know,
Hitler find out now, I don't know. I would love
if someone actually would pull DNA and do a DNA
test test on him, because supposedly he had a grandmother
that was Jewish. They would have lost his mind. You
can't have a bit of black, a bit of Hispanic.
You can't be Catholic or have any Catholics in your family.
You you obviously couldn't be Jewish, like there's so many
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Half of these kids wouldn't wouldn't qualify that that think
that they're the perfect specimens. They're not. You couldn't be swarthy,
and they didn't want like Greeks or Italians or the Italians.
In the end they allied.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
But so I get the idea of the Buchamp. But
racism is a learned behavior. So if they're already racist
as a kid, training them to fight to kill or
hurt or many other people is just going to give
them the ability to do it, not only to people
outside of by our country, just outside of their race,
because they think one way, because this is how they
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were brought up, this is what was taught to them,
this is what was instilled and grained into their DNA,
And it's a lot of the bs going around. So yeah,
I don't know, Bobby. I like the idea of that,
because as Americans, we are fed as heir, we all
out of shit. That's why everybody on knows Zmpic. You
can't take those in the military.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, actually no, you absolutely, you absolutely come, but will
go be. I mean, what's unfortunate. So I like that too.
Is something that has happened is Trump has stopped or
paused a military aid. He's also stopped sending information like
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the CIA is no longer sending information to the Ukraine.
Like it's this is these are people fighting for their lives.
They do not have to, they do not deserve to
have an intelligence pause. You know, if we have information
saying they're coming in the back door, we should be
sending it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But I've also seen people are outraged. They can't believe.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Not his base.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
His base thinks it's great. They don't get what an
ally is. They don't get. I just I don't understand.
I don't anybody that watched that. I was watching. Chris
Christy was on George George Stephanopolis this week this week Sunday,
and I thought he was he was pretty interesting, he said,
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you know, and he had had an alliance with Trump
because the GOP had asked him to make him better,
you know, like in his first term, get him ready,
because he had run at least a state, get him
you know, sort of government ready. And he said, the
one thing that he doesn't have is he has no empathy.
He said, I had gone over. He just doesn't have it.
He's not somebody that was born with it. It's like
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a missing link for him. He said. I went to
myself all the to Ukraine at the beginning of the war.
I went into Zelenski's office. He said. The windows were
all covered with the heavy burlap. The windows up against
the windows were all sandbags. He said, you could clearly
see he goes. And we weren't even quite a year yet.
You know the misery that this poor guy was going
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into going in with what was happening outside. You could
hear the bombs and any He said, if Trump had
any empathy at all, he would be able to understand that,
like that's how you would have treated him like a
friend coming in. But he doesn't have it. And I
thought he thought it was disgraceful. He couldn't believe, he
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absolutely couldn't believe how we was treated and we was
absolutely bullied. And he said, but that's how he does
all his deals. He bullies every that to them all
he goes. Was I shocked, no, disappointed?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yes, Chris Christy, I said, he got it wrong. It's
our empathy is not the only one component. He's missing
a couple of other ones. They had something to do
with the wizard. They had something to do with the
Wizard of ours. What were they seeking? A heart, a brain,
and some courage? All three of those are missing. Cause
good God Jesus. Anyway, we just as from here, have
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to learn from here at I Heeart and Black Oppect Network,
I'm going to apologize on behalf of the country to
President Zelenski for the embarrassing way that you were treated
by our people, who we well, who they have elected
to be hit at the ahead of our state. Bobby,
I'm going to blame America for this. I just got
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to say, I blame all of us for this situation
that we're in. We didn't vote for him, but I
don't know if we were vocal enough or took up
big enough staying to try to stop and fight this.
Not that I know what we could have done, Bobby,
because this money is winning, money is winning, and we
don't have money like that. Money is winning, But when
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is it going to be enough for the Republican Party
who used to be respected, who used to be admired
and looked at like, oh my god, they are the
they are the upper echelone of people in America. They
have allowed themselves to be taken down under the mat,
not to the mat, but under the mat by one
person because a bully and power and there's money that
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subsequential that you threw all your values away because they
love how say Christian? They Christian, these Christian values Christian?
Shut up, flame molroll and she said that I don't
know if that that's what's working because I saw it
and say something real nasty. I don't know if that's
what's working for Bobby. But until we get a bunch
of Republicans with some serious mojo to say, hey, this
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is not who we are, this is not what America
is that can push back, I don't know what we
can do to stop this steamroller from rolling us over.
Because it's rolling us over. Bobby.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We've got to we've got to stand up. You have
to speak truth to power. I'm going to tell you
who I was proud who did speak up. So Vice
President Vance went to Vermont on a ski weekend with
his family, and let me tell you what he hit
up there in Liberland. There were the entire way from
the airport right and on till he was going to
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mad River. I think up in Vermont were protesters. I
don't like some of the language they were using, because
I know there were kids in the car, and I
don't like I don't like that. But they were holding
their Ukraine flags. They were telling them where he could go.
They were screaming they hope he got ice and he
slipped and some bad They were f bombinum. They were
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so But that's what people need to see. We're not happy.
We're not happy with you, and not one or two people.
We're talking. There were only one line deep, line deep.
They weren't like twenty deep, but they were miles long.
This protest went, so he had a long way to
go in and his wife can see, his kids can
see that. People don't think their daddy is so great.
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They probably don't understand enough of it. But that's what
we have to start doing. We have to start showing
up to the town halls. We have to start calling
our Congress. We have to start doing protests like this.
That means, because that was disgraceful. I heard Trump say
in his speech last night, I'm going to take it
for what it's worth. I'm hoping this is good. That
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Vladimir's Zelensky had written a letter apologizing, saying that he
wanted peace up up uh. I hope that's enough. But
kissing that he'll have to do. I'm sure it's not
going to be enough, because if they could do the
mineral deal, and I don't know if Trump didn't explain
it enough to Zelensky prior to that meeting. If we
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are aligned and we have financial interest in your country,
we have to come to your aid. You know, you're
one of our assets, so we have to. He's trying
to say stuff without saying it, and why do you
invite the press. That was the biggest mistake because you said,
we hear about Fdr In Churchill, who, by the way,
wore a jumpsuit for his negotiations at the White House,
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and nobody bitched about that. He looked like he was
gonna hop under someone's car and change the Royal. They
were all at blows, you know, there were a whole
bunch of of Machi macks in the in the Oval
office and they were all but fist fighting, but nobody
saw it.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
So it did exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That's right, years later, not even then.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah, but now we actually got to see it on
fold for us in real time. And how disrespectful that was.
But gltitude run it up and opened up the door.
Let's go right into it. So last night he gave
his address to the was it to the Senate or
to the Congress?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It was to the it was to what was to Congress,
so you know, you got the House and the Senate.
It was to all it was to Congress.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And it was just ninety minutes of live lying. That's
what I call it the live lying show. Because nobody
fact checked him. He went on and on about this,
that and the third and going on now. He did
break some interesting points for me. Bobby I am. I'm
very afraid that he is going to as a transgender
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person in this country, that he is going to stop
all kind of healthcare for transgender adults with children. I
kind of get it, This is my opinion, the opinion
of the show, but I kind of get that. But
with adults who have already living in their lives and
you know, coming to their own and decided this is
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who I am, because that's already in you, I don't
agree with that. I think it's going to be a
lot of people very unhappy because of that. I don't
agree with some of that. I did see what he
said about the trends and sports and mova WU. But Bobby,
some of his says cutting medicare cutting Medicaid, cutting social security.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
He's not such an Exactly everything in Project twenty twenty
five is told, and they still they're supposed to have
everything on those nine hundred and would have many pages
completely executed by July.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
The first, Uh, we are what are we two months
in in? It's looking real, it's looking real, scary and sketchy.
They're looking like exactly what he's what he's saying that
it is going to happen like you said, but we
got to stand up. I only applaud. I wish that
the Democratic Party had balls like Nancy Pelosi because I
want to just give a shout out to Representative l
(29:29):
Green who got up and walked out because he just
couldn't take it. I personally thought the whole Democratic Party
should have got up and walked out. But the Democrats
are missing something. They need to go see the Wizard
because courage is a no no. Right now, the only
people who seem to have courage are the women are
the only people in the Democratic but I seem to
have other women.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I gotta say I disagree with you on us. I
liked that. I liked that the women were wearing because
the dee I and whatnot. They all wore pink I
like stuff like that, holding up friggin ping pong paddles.
What the hell is that? What are we in third grade?
You steal you? I wish they sat there mature, like,
(30:12):
don't come if you can't come, but you know you're
being paid to come. You pai paid in six He
is such a whack job that saying anything and speaking
anyway just validates him. He can twist it and look
at Pocahontas Elizabeth Warren like he had to make a comment.
She wasn't saying anything. She was just sitting there, like
(30:34):
I think when you act up, I don't know. I'd
rather just look just sit there and look and listen.
Should he have been removed? No, after Majorie Taylor Green
and whatever the weather? Wacko.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
That's what I'm saying about me, So I get what
you're saying about. Maybe the Democrats should have handed it
another way. But why when when the Republicans already laid
the base when President but Obama was the president, they
were comp literally, you lie. They called him by his
name and helped you from the floor. So let me
tell you something. That they laid the base. They laid
(31:07):
the base.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
No, I gotta President Biden was the president.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
They also would have go President Biden, but he went
back back and back toe to toe with them, So
they laid the base. This is how we could have
won this election. Have we had these balls and that
kind of gumption while fighting. We're we're passed the fight now,
we're in the damn war now. But have we had
this kind of uh, stand up and fight for yourself
or shout out or be a little more vocal or verbal,
(31:34):
we might not be here. So our problem there for
having a vote for being vocal now because we didn't
lay the foundation. They did. We just adding to it.
I know how they say sometimes you have to fight
fire with fire. By what I said before, the only
reason color I think Kala Harris should have gotten in
the dirt with Trump. I think she should have got
down in the dirt with him. That's how he wins.
(31:55):
He gets in the dirt, and he expects people to
have a presidential way or an American way that they're
not going to get down in a dirt with him.
That's how he wins.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
He I just yeah, I just I don't know. I
didn't like because when al Green came out, he was
so well spoken and his he had real vital reasons
for speaking. But do you think that that probably turned
Trump on having him thrown out and Johnson? I just don't.
(32:27):
I don't know. I'm you know what I was. I'm
sitting here looking and I'm not being rude. I'm listening
to everything that you're saying. A Democratic representative from Texas,
Sylvester Turner seventy passed away right after after leaving. He
must have had a heart attack on his way out,
so it's an open seat. So you know where my
mind went immediately, I was hoping to God that he
was a Republican and we might have a chance at
(32:49):
the siege. But I'm trying to see. You know, some states,
if a if a senator or or a congressman passes,
the governor of the state can appoint appoint somebody. So
that's what I was trying to look. I'm trying to
see do they have to have a hearing, do they
(33:10):
get appointed? Do they have to have an election? And
I can't it's too it looks like a little document.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I can't read it. Under this administration, it won't matter.
They're making up the rules as they go along. They're
changing the damn constitution right about face. So, but they're
trying on what you said, Mike Johnson being excited. He
shouldn't have been too excited because the news immediate reports
that his chief of staff was arrested by driving drunk
on the d U A. Let's see if we hear
(33:35):
any more about that after.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I wonder, I wonder, my god, he probably was like
Jesus Christ, this is what I'm this is what I'm
working with. Had a few while he was sitting in there. Yeah,
but I saw I saw people magazine put that out.
There are a lot of news media put it out,
but that was the last one that I saw, and
I thought, oh god, uh, I mean the fact checking
that with that went on with that, I can't even
(34:02):
like everything that came out of his mouth. Everything that
came out of his mouth wasn't true.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Like it was called a live lie.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It was he was I'm thinking about the fact checking
the whole thing. So usually it's a little partisan. The
last time, the last time that President Biden spoke, he
never mentioned Trump's name. I don't believe, but he we
clearly knew who he was thinking about, not President Trump.
He came right out and bashed everybody, anybody and everybody,
(34:39):
and a lot of the stuff like we were talking about,
it's stupid stuff. I mean, it's all checkable. So I
just don't know why he bothers. He has that five
million dollar citizenship be selling. Remember that's been around, not
a five million dollars at a million was the loss
that that President Biden checked it at twenty twenty two
(34:59):
and he had just at it. But it's been in
since the first Bush. And it's called EB five and
you have to come. You have to take your five
million dollars and put it into a company here in
this country that brings it jobs as a whole formula
that you have and during that time, if you keep
your powder dry and your nose clean, you can apply
for citizenship because maybe your business really takes off, you know,
(35:21):
maybe another apple, and you know you have to be
here too. So it's a lot, so, but he's making
it sound like something that he has created. Not true.
Eggs were so expensive, No, they weren't. Inflation was coming down.
At the highest they were was in twenty twenty two,
when we also had the bird flu had come out.
(35:42):
We was still coming off of prices for COVID. Unfortunately,
we all know that prices don't come back down. Like
people who are waiting for them to come down, just ask,
just pray for stabilization. They're never coming back down unless
there's a price reset, like something huge happens, like a recession.
I don't want a recession. Blame you know, no money
(36:02):
gets spent on a recession. So they have to bring
the prices down. So he's talking like they're going to
do something great. Funny when Biden had the bird flu,
he was a bomb, but the prices were coming down.
And now all of a sudden, Trump has a bird
flu and it's Biden's fault that there's the bird flu it.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Well, of course it was the blame game, Bobby. He
blamed Biden, Blame Obama, he blamed he blamed Clinton. He
he would blame anybody as opposed to taking any responsibility
for anything negative. Because he wants to make it like
he is a natural snake charmer and he is a
snake charmer because he has charmed the hell out of snakes.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Good dab, Yeah, he really. It's it's shocking to see
the people that come out and they kind of stand
by it, like I am sure his face. I mean,
the reason he came out and he did this because
he doesn't have to. He didn't have to do this.
But they're saying that he's at forty forty eight percent,
but his poll numbers with his base are dropping and
(37:02):
he needs to speak to his base, he needs to build.
That was all just for his base, so they he
lies and they believe it. But nobody expects a whole
hell of a lot at six weeks he has he
has done a lot. He was going to say he
was going to do a lot for the country on
day one. He has chaos. He is the king. He
is the king of chaos. He has everything is such
(37:26):
a hot mess. Is seventy thousand they're talking about seventy
thousand veteran affairs people being laid off. Remember he's big
for the vets, but how do we know people are
going to get their benefits and stuff is going to
be doled out the way it's supposed to if we
don't have people to dole it out. Now, you know,
he had the Democratic responsees today. I liked her, Senator
(37:50):
Alissa Slockin. I believe she Minnesota. She's somebody. I liked her.
She came and she made a couple statement's flame. You know,
we're always talking about about the messaging, right, she made
a couple of statements that have got were great, like basically,
(38:11):
you know, we had the American dream and these are
the things that we expected and that's all gone. Yes,
that's how you talk to people. You agree with them
because it's true in Michigan. I wasn't sure if she
was Michigan Minnesota. I really liked her. I think that
I got you is very powerful. I don't know if
what would have made that more powerful and I lost
(38:32):
you is Wouldn't it been great if we got one
of somebody that would be good at it, well spoken,
one of these people that have just been laid off
that say, you know, I worked thirty years for Veterans'
Affairs and now I have no job and go through
all of the things, you know, the same type of
speech and let people actually see a real person that's
lost the job, because and lets it affect you. They
(38:54):
just don't believe it's actually them. You know, it's not
gonna affect me.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
I was, yeah, I was high off. I think that
whatever we're going to do, we definitely need well, I'm
going to say the Democratic Party because I'm telling you
right now, right now, I'm independent. I'm a free thinker
because I'm not rolling with having dependents are doing I
mean like the Democrats are doing. I was pighly offended
that he attacked personally attacks Stacey air Rooms because of
the great work that she does. Anybody that's outshining him
(39:21):
bothers him. So it's going to be a problem. But
he did introduce now he said something last night doing
this doing this speech that I was like, okay, so
y'all missed this whole thing that he said he was
only working with elected officials. But then he introduced Elon
Musk as head of DOGE. Who voted for Elon Musk?
What what campaign did he run in William Body? Because
(39:42):
then what it's words the president said he was only
working with elected officials. It won't be no more unfairness.
But then he introduced Elon must as head of DOGE
and I don't remember him having a campaign. I don't
remember him having an election. I just remember him being
appointed that position from Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
No, I think you're exactly right. And he was up
in the gallery and something else that I thought was
just distasteful as he used all he brought all of
these people in, who, honest to God, must have been
hungry for some sort of attention. And that poor little
baby that had had whatever the cancer is that they had,
and that father holding them up. I wanted to punch
him in the throat. He's and they're all waving at
(40:23):
him and like oh hey, and uh, and I'm thinking,
what what do you do?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Who camera see? Not one of these subjects that you're
talking about with these people means anything like it. I
don't get it. I don't get the other of that.
It made me sit. Everybody keep saying it was one
hundred minutes. I was stuck at at my table for
two solid hours. He didn't end until after eleven, and
maybe he was a little late, but I had to
watch his fat ass go by in the in the
(40:48):
limousine please, and his wife, and oh please, I kind
of liked de roth. Though I will say she's looking
a little better. She's gonna tease her hair or something.
Something's going on her hair.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Okay, I'm now that we're gonna disagree, so but be
done that lady, be stamped. Every time I like her
hair is looking you know what it is.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
You hit fifty and then all of a sudden, you
kind of lose a little bloom in your hair, like
it becomes finer and it doesn't have as much, you know,
kind of umped. So they got to I don't know,
she needs a little They're gonna I don't know. I'm
a nineties girl, so I want a little I want
a little hype.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
You need some volume.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
She has no volume.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
She's she is.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
She used to have volume, but she's been robbed. But
I thought she looked great. She actually smiled. I was
a little shocked. I liked a little, a little natural smile.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Such a such a poor quality of watching. America so divided,
and the Democrats, rightfully so did not stand up and
applaud I personally, they should all stood up. I thought
they should all have returned their back to him.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
He would have loved it. Though, see, he would have
loved it and he would have fed off it by
saying nothing. If they all had the face is do
you know who who? I was shocked. The military, nobody
was clapped, and nobody was doing anything. The Supreme Court.
I don't believe Thomas went or short with the black hair.
(42:16):
I can't think of her name. Oh my god, I can't.
I'm having like a menopause moment. There were two of them.
Did that didn't come and he did go over it
and thank the Chief Justice. I don't know what the
hell he was thanking him for because.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
He didn't vote for him for community, he said. He
said he was thanking him for community.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Oh my god, Well he didn't surprise he He's they
did not vote Trump's way for the aid that's supposed
to be paid out. They they said that they're going
to go by the lower court whatever. The lower court
court said that that's it. Uh, so you know, uh
(42:55):
there is.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Go ahead, no, no, no, you go about and finish
your college.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I was going to say, I think they really are
going by the letter of a law. So if there's
any wiggle room flame, maybe they can wiggle out of it.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
But if the if the.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Law says and the Constitution says acts. They are standing
by the Constitution. Now if just like the immunity for
the for the president, or even the laws that Scotus
has to follow themselves, if it wasn't put into the Constitution,
and it wasn't the word on guide rails, then then
they have wiggle room and they can they can give
(43:30):
a give them immunity for acts that he does. That's
for the country.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
I have great empathy for the military people who are
identified as transgender and are being banned or kicked out
or whatever. I watched the general speak today on TikTok
I believe it was I can't remember his name, and
he was like, it doesn't matter what you identify as,
if you're fighting for your country. We we just want,
you know, we need bodies. We need people to stand
for us, for our He was like, when you're in
(43:57):
that time, you don't care who saves your life, who
pools you out, what they identify ads you just you know.
And I thought it was like, if only everyone saw
each other as human as that, we would even be here.
But we have made such differences between race and identity
and socialism and a size and age, and that is
(44:20):
why we are so separated, because we won't just come
to guy and remember that we're just a human race.
But listen, this is where we are. And after watching
him speak last night, I was very glad that I
did not vote for Donald Trump. And let me just say,
I was very glad that I did not match. Now
it did make a difference because he's still the president.
But I'm with myself. I can look at the mirror
and say, thank you, flaming my role or my other name,
(44:43):
that you did not waste your vote because I saved
myself from being able to say I was trying to
be on a winning team, or I think he was
gonna make real change. He is making change. He's making
real change.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
He's making real change. Not in a positive fashion, but
he's making real Chane and back to the trans in
the military.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Making real change. I'm in his purse.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, Oh, he's making a lot. He's not making change, honey,
He's making bazillions, and so is musk Off the backs
of by all these deals that somehow aren't conflicts of interest.
But the trans in the military, I'm with you, like
it doesn't make a difference. I mean, what what are
they doing, Like, how would you even know somebody was
trans that they're whipping out a bedazzler and doing their
cholera Like, who cares? As long as everybody's in the
(45:30):
camouflage and you're does it really make a difference. You're
not asking, I say, you're not recruiting, you know, one
way or the other. I'm not saying to come over
to me. I am heterosexual and you're not. Sexuality has
nothing to do with it or how you identify it.
I just don't get it. It's you're a soldier, and
that's that circumstance. It's sort of like the police. They're blue.
(45:52):
Their blood is blue. It's not black, it's not white,
it's blue. They all identify as as a group. Same
with the military or all just soldiers. They got green.
So I don't understand what the big deal is if
you're willing to fight and put your life for mine,
God bless you.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
But you know, this takes me to the reference of
my favorite, favorite, favorite, favorite favorite episode of all in
the Family. Archie gave the character of Beverly Lassall, who
was a drag queen to transvestor at that time in
the seventies, wrapped the mount for suscitation. So here's the
vice versa. If Archie was dying and the Beverly or
(46:31):
a trans woman or a drag queen or whatever you
it was something that you were completely against, was there
and that was the only person that could give you
mouth to mouth resuscitation to save your life. Would you care?
That's the question. Would you have to ask yourself? Would
you care? Now, let me tell you something. If your breathtak,
let me die, just let me go straight out.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I don't think art you would have minded, well, not
not minded. I think you would have taken it. But
he might have given him one of these.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
But you know, and that's how you have to look.
Get us in there because you never know what situation
life is going to throw at you and where you
will be. So if you about, you know, and they
have some of the superhead row, I mean heavy on
the head of row. Sexual man out here who just
so that's not they get down. They don't hate gay
or whatever, but it's just not for them. But you know,
they have to ask himself, would I be willing to die?
(47:18):
Or if I was next to this person in the
elevator and nobody could be we were suck and I
was dying stuffing. If they gave me mouth to mouth
and save me. Because you got a wife and kids,
you're gonna get home too. The scariest part, Bobby, is
you be afraid that the person would live and then
be like, uh, you kiss me and they retaliate and
do something crazy. That is the kind of situation we
(47:40):
live in right now.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Well that's what we're being set up. I don't know
if we're actually living in it, but I know that
that's what he's setting us up for. You know, it's
more division everything he's trying to do. It's how everybody
says that he does business. I haven't paid attention to
him enough because he had so many bankruptcies. I wasn't
thinking he was the best sal know businessman in the world.
(48:02):
But you know clearly that's how he likes the mayhem
and then he tries to come in for the kill
or for whatever. God bless him and God bless you.
All I can say is if the Democrats can can
pick a message, clean it up, if it could be
more like this this young woman last night, Alyssa Slockin.
(48:26):
You know, I think we might we might get a
little ware we might walk right on in to the midterms,
which would be terrific.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Well, you know, whatever is going to happen, we're gonna
be right here in America. We're gonna be right here
on a laugh and learn reporting to you. Thank you
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(48:58):
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Speaker 1 (50:01):
Oh I am I'm sorry past my bedtime.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
I am way to sleep, don't she what?
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Speaker 1 (50:35):
You wish, I want to pump my eyes out. I
cannot see what I say anyway.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Here at laugh alone, we want you to understand that
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The motto is the same, we were not. We are
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Because why, Bobby, Because.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Of mind and a vote are a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
And I'm telling you, as American citizens, we ain't got
no time to waste. We got to find us a
care it that we think is strong and concise and
gonna help it. He says, Welcome back to America. He
bring America back. America is so far away from what
America is supposed to represent, which is a melting pot
of all different types of people coming from everywhere to
(51:15):
come together and live as a society. What America he
talking about? All the one that's living in his man
that y'all put him in a position to create. I'm
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