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December 30, 2024 51 mins

*Originally aired February 29th, 2024*

In this episode, Flame Monroe and resident flamette Bobby Clifford discuss the ongoing immigration challenges, Trump's immunity case, space exploration, Wendy Williams' declining health, Nikki Haley's political career, the Alabama IVF ruling, the importance of voting and the need for unity in the upcoming election, recognizing Toni Morrison and Paul Mooney and much more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
We were saying, if you watch the Coffee Time the
baby you know the name Flame my bro also known
as my Row Flame, come in with last and come

(00:49):
up with Jim love lambs. Baby, you better catch it
when you can drop a knowledge.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
From fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homage.
What's up? Tips?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
She raised shot towns on speaking to the grown a second.
We're gonna last come and kick it in at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
We leave it with just a lift your spirits speak
you want to revisit so your friends like a listen,
young folks. So you slip, oh folks that we did
it good? Kay, don't do what you do? Kany No,
do what you do? Chang Nope, do what I do?
No this.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, hey, Hey, this is comedian Flame my Roe and
welcome to this episode of Laugh and Learn. Baby. We
on the countdown for season four. We are almost done
with season three and we wholeheartedly thank you from the
bottom of our hearts. From our producer mister Aaron Howard,
to myself, my beautiful self flavoring Row, and to my
gorgeous co host Bobby Clifford, how you are you. We

(02:00):
on the countdown to season four, Bobby Clifford.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yes we are. We're almost there.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
For is my good luck number, and it's looking real
for dangerous honey. So but listen, this is a hot
year for politics. And when I say hot, I ain't
even talking about hot because the stove it's hot. I'm
just talking about it's hot in all capacities. So let's
put it to the test and let's see what we
got to do. I'm gonna tell you my model right now.
It's still I'm raving with bad but he ain't driving.

(02:27):
I'm just saying what I got to say. Listen, you
you pick and choose who you want. That is who
I'm picking. I don't even want to know who you
picking because you might scare me. I might like you.
You say the wrong thing, I'm gonna stop liking you immediately.
Does that mean, Bobby, it's not mean?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
After after the stuff that Trump has said over this
past weekend, the ridiculous comments that he thinks he's gaining
some sort of favor with the Black voge, I don't
think it's mean at all.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna get into all that. But
let'st off this week by letting you guys know that
I am in Chicago right now, my hometown, my city,
and I'm here to do promo. I'm here to celebrate
the fifty fifth anniversary of the Baton Show Lounge, which
has been a very important part of my career as
a female impersonator. I actually started there. I will tell

(03:17):
you what year, but if I tell you a year,
I had to kill you and I ain't ready to
go to jail for murder. And so he's celebrating fifty
five years of some of the greatest and female impersonation,
mister Jim Flant, So hats off to that. But while
I'm here, I've also been picked up to do press
for the comedy show that I'm doing, Marshall twenty nine
and thirty at Marshall twenty ninth and thirtieth at the

(03:38):
world famous Laugh Factor in Chicago. So get your tickets
at on the website or go to the box office
thirty one seventy five on Broadway. So Friday morning, I
am doing WGCI, which is one oh seven point five
at seven pm Central Standard, which is eight East Coast
and five West Coast. Then at eight point fifty Central Standard,

(03:58):
I'm doing Fox News and then at eleven, I'm doing
ABC News with our warners. So you guys downloaded on iHeart,
which you already should be downloaded on iHeart as you
listen to us here on Laugh and Learn for the radio,
and you can watch YouTube on Fox later after we
tape it. But it's gonna be good. I'm going to
advertise and promote and thank my flamance and talk about

(04:19):
Laugh and Learn of season four and of course Bobby
Clipping and Aaron and everything. So just listening, I get
a chance to cut up and this won't be no
in and out. I get once I get in and
I get to stay.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Will you, dirty bird?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I'm not even oh, Bobby, get your man out together.
I'm talking about like bread, and I'm talking about bread
in the oven. Okay, so you guys listen. I remember
May tenth is my showcase for the Elisian for Netflix
at the Elysian for Netflix, as a joke. In March sixteenth,
I'll be in Pittsburgh speaking of Netflix. My boy down there,
Rollin's just dropped his special executive producer by Dave Chappelle.

(04:58):
I'm biased to how I feel. I know everybody have
their own comedy is suggestive, subjective and everybody feels their
own way. But I traveled nine arenas with him. Last
year with Dave Chappelle, I also hosted his comedy, his
sold out comedy show at Donelle Lamb, which he gives
every year and was treated very royally so and I
enjoy it. I thought it was good.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
He will cook a million bucks. He really did. He
pulled it together.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I had. I love the blue suit. I had an
issue with the red tie. I'm just saying me and
the colo rid right now. Who after until after the
November fourth elections, me and the color red got an issue.
Let me just say it. But yeah, so you guys
watching on Netflix. It's called A New Day and Donelle
is my boy and it is exacutive produced by the

(05:41):
Goat himself, mister Dave Chappelle. So yeah, Bobby, let's get
right into it. I just had to get all of
that out.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
No, it's informative and we like to hear and we
like to hear it too. I don't do we want
to do black history at the end of the morning.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
At the end of the Yeah, let's do black history
at the een.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Okay, do you have somebody.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I'm sure, I'll wrecked my brain.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well you'll come up with somebody. Okay, it's just a
couple of informs. One of them is Don Lemon's case
was finally settled. He is to be paid twenty four
point five million, which is actually what the what the
rest of his contract would have been had they paid
it out. The only unfortunate thing is he's gonna he's
gonna lose a third of that right to attorney's fees

(06:24):
and whatnot, So that kind of stinks. But he's sort
of vindicated.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Twenty four point five. I know Don Limmit's personal cell
phone number. Let me text him and stay if I
can buy one hundred dollars. Good God, jeezu, good for
Don Limmy. I don't know what happened with that demise
over there on C and the end, but they got
that new president and it was a lot of shakeups
over there. Oh yeah, he just happened to be one
of the shakeups. Speaking of Don Limb and I had

(06:50):
a dream about Chris Cuomo and Julia Roberts last night.
It was the strangest dream. They were married, and they
him them with gardening, which I don't do. Guardian ants
kept crawling all over me. I couldn't get rid of
the ants. I don't know what it meant. But so
if anybody knows what ant's crawling over you means, I
don't know, because if Chris Colman was in my dream,
I damn sure don't want to see him married to

(07:11):
anyone else. Good God, No, and not not was ans.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Maybe they were they marching in a row.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
They was they was just all over me. They just
forget I'm we had we had a passing this week, Bobby, Yeah,
who is it?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Today? We had Richard Lewis, the comedian actor died today.
He had a heart attack.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Also the mayor of uh of Michigan. I think he
was in Michigan. He was the mayor of a city, Flint, Michigan.
He passed as well. And he was very outspoken. I
cannot think of his name, Bobby, I'm going to google
his name.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
He was very outspoken. He was very, very very into
uh just helping Michigan, Flint, Michigan with the water crisis
that they have because they've had a water crisis for
years down there with which water had affected those people,
and uh, it's it's just terrible it's things have made everywhere.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, we're I mean we discussed on last week. I
don't know if it's going to help a Flint, Michigan specifically,
but President Biden is he put money aside. I can't
tell you the exact dollar around of the tip of
my fingers for infrastructure like water, so everybody has better
water throughout the country. He's you know, they're going to
go state by state, so let's fingers and toes. It

(08:29):
will help. Oh, it's an activist. Eric Mays, a Michigan
City council member.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, and he he was the male version of anti
Maxine Waters because he did not play with him when
it came down to taking care of the people, which
is what politicians signed up to do. Yeah, it's to
cove it and take care of their people. That is
the first priority and the first authority and job description.

(08:57):
You are supposed to take care of the people that
actually voted for you to put you in that position.
But of course that that's like throwing the baby out
with the bath water.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh, I wonder does it do? Tell us how he passed?
He was only sixty five in today's day and age.
That's that's relatively young.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Quickly and his family.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, he was a strong soldier. Okay, Bobby, let's get okay,
where we going.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
So the next is, there's so much. It's so jam
packed today, just literally what happened today. I'm hoping we
get to everything. If not, we'll stay tuned. We'll we'll
round it up next week. Mitch McConnell, he's going to
step down as the minority leader of the Senate in November.
He's going to complete his Senate seat, which I think

(09:45):
goes through twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I believe.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
He looked a little slim today. Always a little turtlish
the way he holds his head, but a little slim.
I think he got a little, a little choked up.
I have a feeling he's being pushed out. He's not
necessarily willingly going out, And it makes me nervous that
that maga Wright is somehow growing like a fungus.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well listen, you see what. They holding him there until November,
and we haven't seen it in quite some time, So
they're holding him until after November fourth, which will be
the it's all overplay for the underplay, but underplay for
the overplay. But listen, I hope Mitch McConnell gets his
health together, because inasmuch as I don't care for him

(10:28):
in that position, we could actually get somebody way worse,
way worse.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Isn't it the truth? It's like the devil, you know,
is the old expression goes. I mean, we're only days
away March first, in March eighth from government shutdown. Parts
of the government are going to actually shut down, and
we can't even get things moving with that. At least
he seems sort of dedicated to at least he gave
a slip service that he didn't want necessarily the government

(10:55):
to shut down, but they still won't pass that that
Ukraine Aid and the border bill.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, Mims McConnell may not even know what was going on.
He might be somewhere frozen.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh, I will say he looked He looked pretty on
it today, like he he was sharp. He had his
notes in front of him and he just but he
was just speaking pretty easily.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
So whatever that is, speaking of being sharp, I beloved
President President Joseph ar Biden had a health test today
and he cleared it with with a straight a. So
he's doing His health is really good. He was walking
like a boss today. He looked fantastic. He did an
interview the other night and I think it was Jimmy
Kimo or somebody, and they said, so you're anyone used that?

(11:34):
He said, who told you? I thought he was sharp.
I thought it was funny.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
He's got a great sense of humor. SLF Whatevereth Exeth Mayer. Yes,
he's the late No, no, the late late byer. You
were right, the late lights.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Myers h And I love that Joe Biden. President Biden
just shows you that that's quick wit. The quick wit
requires an intellect, it required, it requires a cuts acute sharpness.
He's there kind of like what you tell me bout me?
I want sharp play. I don't want the other plane.

(12:09):
So he had not he had not been in the
Edibles because he was very sharp, mister bid I appreciate that,
and I think I think him and Jill had did
a little slipper slab real talk.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think when you have a speech impediment, like a stutter,
and you've got multi layered information that's coming in, I
think you do get a little slower. And he wants
to be careful how we how we get stuff out.
But I think in any of the times I've seen him.
Does he have gaps, Yes, but he had gaps at
thirty five, you know, like that's sort of his that's

(12:41):
sort of his thing. Trump was was had some sort
of interview and he was calling his wife Mercedes. I
don't know if she drives her Mercedes. I don't know.
Her name is Melaenia. So you know, I don't think
one is necessarily better than the other.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Well, I'm very happy that our president got a clean
bill of help again with Baden, but he just not driving. Okay, Bobby,
where are we going?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay? So speaking of him, he actually met with Alexei
Alban now Navami, I killed that name with the daughter
and the wife, and he said he you know, I
guess he had a nice speech with him and told
him how how courageous they were. And he's put sanctions
on on Russia. He had sanctions before, but as they
kind of keel back the onion and they see all

(13:23):
the other banking systems and everybody that's involved. He added
an additional say that ten times fast, five hundred sanctions
that he's placed on them. But it makes me nervous
because they've got that poor girl there.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So yeah, And to anybody listeners, who's wonder whose no
value is? That was the outspoken of a guy in
Russia who spoke up against and and out against uh
Vladimir Putin, and he had been in prisons for so
many years and he ended up suddenly dying. So that's
who it was.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Just a walk on a walk people they did. His
mother did get the botto back. They were holding the
body because I'm sure I hate to think of what
condition it went back to them, because I am sure
that they're gonna want to have done something to it
so that, you know, a private post mortem would be skewed.
You know, they're not going to want to show that

(14:16):
he would they poisoned him again, or they beat him
up or whatever it is. So I can't imagine. But
it made a difference to his mom because his mom
wanted to bury him, you know, and the Christian faith
that's you know, you need to have the body. Did
you lose your phone last week and that whole big outage.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Thing that happened absolute.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I did. I'm an at and tier.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I'm verson, Well, see you're you're more bougie.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I guess I was old. Sell one must sell one
when it was back in the day, like in the
nineties when the phones first came out. I just kept it.
And then they got bought out, and they got bought out,
and they got bought out, and they got bought out.
I did get something today that said, this is hysterical.
So I lost six hours of work. They're going to

(15:03):
give me five dollars for my inconvenience.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oh I saw that, Bobby, I said, wopping by the
You can't even buy big BAC with five dollars. Let
me tell you something. Every time they just send some
satellites up to out of space, they keep messing with
each other. They go up there messing with ET. It
messes up something down here. Et made a phone out
of a Etger sketch, some batteries and a damn wired

(15:27):
hangar no wire hangers, and called his people and went
home and y'all keep messing with him. Yeah, that was
bad for a lot of people. Now imagine being stranded
somewhere and you in dire emergency. That was crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I have to VPNN, right, So it's remote end
to get into the systems, and you need a phone
to be able to do it. It has to go through
it has to go through a phone wire, so I
really did. I mean, it was nice to have the
day off, but you know, trying to make up the
time so you don't you don't lose the time as
kind of the pits. But anyway, that was that. I
just wanted to see if if you had had heard anything,

(16:01):
because it's stunk. Something that's good. I'd like to pass
along a little good news. There's a woman named Ruth Gottsman.
She's the widow of a billionaire financier. She also was
a professor. She has given donated one billion dollars to
the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in the Bronx to
cover tuition indefinitely. She's ninety three years old. She wants

(16:27):
to make sure that the gift is given because she
wants to attract a diverse pool of applicants. She doesn't
want them leaving med school with any debt. I think
it's terrific. These are the types of things that we
need to just sort of level the playing fields.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
After her how many billion, one billion, Well she knows
she couldn't take it with us, so I'm glad for that, thank.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
You, But she could have given it to the next
She could have done anything, given it to the cats.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Right, at least she won't one it ed. I'm gonna
leave everything to my dog. You know, if somebody ever
have a dog and you leave a billion dollars to
that dog, and you leave that dog with me, that
dog will be right behind you.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh, he couldn't live, fighter, couldn't live without you, he was, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
He's gone. You think I'm gonna fighter up and gold
houses and all that fighter would be. Don't worry. He
on his way. He's coming right back, Joe, I'm Peter.
It's a joke. Before y'all get in your feels, because
you know you can't even say anything no more. It
was a joke, y'all. Good God, But your chances.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Are though not speaking, dogs get really attached. So depending on.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I would at least wait thirty days.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Good Jesus, could you imagine Timmy? Timmy would be would
be like one of those old Italian ladies. Haven't laying
across the casket if anything ever happened to you. Do
we need to be able to handle it?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Do we have to make a personal I do not
want my Timmy on my dish. Oh my god, must
be personal. Bobby Cliff and Jesus take the wheel.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
To Biden and Trump are both going to the border
tomorrow because they're trying to get that edge on immigration.
I don't know how Trump can hold his head up
on this one, where he's telling everybody not to do
something for the emergent issue that's going on. We just
had that poor nursing student, Lincoln Riley, who was killed

(18:22):
by a criminal that got across the border Jose Antonio Ebarra.
I guess he was twenty six. So I'm sure that
somebody's going to throw out either side that you know,
this girl was killed and it's together scouts. But it's
hard to think had they put that in a week ago,
maybe nothing would have happened to her two weeks ago,

(18:42):
like when they wanted.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Oh yeah, Bobby, I don't every time we discussed excuse
me out, but every time we discussed the immigrant problem.
They keep putting it on this president and you can't
even put it on Trump. It's been happening for so
many different presidencies. The weight is falling right now so
heavy on President Biden because ex President Trump has put

(19:07):
out the dog whistle for them not to approve something
that they all want it anyway. It's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh my god. But there's two the way that I
look at it, there's two issues with this. There is
the emergency that the bill that's sitting on Mike Johnson's
desk that he doesn't even want to bring that would resolve,
you know, or do something with. And then there's actual
immigration reform, which President Trump could run on. An immigration reform,

(19:36):
there's a whole big kettle of fish that he can
still fry. So, you know, I don't understand what that is.
But that's and they have like that Georgia State had,
Georgia College had two kids. Augusta University I think it
was had two people that had died. So that's a
lot for a campus to have to deal with. So

(19:58):
that's that's pretty that's pretty crappy stuff to think that
you can't even go for a run to clear your
mind to get ready to study, because it's always the
best way you're gonna worry about something happening to you. Yeah, okay,
I'm right moving on, moving on that FAI informant was
charged again for the same stuff. We'll see what happens.

(20:19):
We'll see what happens with him. Hunter Biden did go
this morning and he had that closed door, that closed
door deposition, and he had a couple of nice quotes
that had come out, but he really kind of held
them a task. He said, he's here today to provide
the committees. Was one of the uncontestable facts that should

(20:40):
end the false premise of the inquiry that I did
not involve my father in any of my business. So
I mean, but you know, both people were claiming victory.
The Democrats came out and they were squawking one thing,
and the Republicans came out and they were squaking something
else on the other side of the stage. So we'll
see what happened. Yeah, it's it's it's really sad, he said.

(21:04):
To be clear, I've made mistakes of my life. I've
squandered opportunities and privilege that were afforded to me, and
I know that I'm responsible for that, and I'm making
amends for that. But my mistakes and shortcomings are my
own and not my father's, who's done nothing but devote
his entire life to public service and try to make
this country a better place to live.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
So I kind of think that Hunt your biding with
that quick wit and that comeback and he's not afraid
to speak, is man, I think it's kind of hot.
Let me just say.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
That, I wish. But but on the other side, they
were Republicans, They're they're they're not giving it up, you know,
They're they're still gonna go ahead with the with the
impeachment inquiry. This doesn't this doesn't end here, you know,
just because he had a few a few statements. So
I'm gonna be honest, I'm a little bit I'm a

(21:51):
little bit disappointed with that because what is it flame?
What is your special going to be called?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Distractions booth? Yeah, brace yourself.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
And that's all it is. That that really is all
it is. It's it's pretty pretty disappointing.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
But on a lighter note, yeah, Trump Trump has offered
to pay only one hundred million dollars of the three
hundred and fifty five million dollars Silver Frog case because
he claims this billionaire who's you know, so he's so
rich and he claims he doesn't have it, Well.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
He's gonna yeah, he's offering that bond. But but the
appeals court denied it. Uh, you know, they denied it
so that that's going, we're kind of moving on. I
just wish we're kicking the can down. And so one
of the big things that that is happening and it's unfolding.
So I don't have a lot of information, and I
don't know if you you do either, is Scotus has

(22:49):
agreed to hear the his his ridiculous declaration that he
has immunity the Appeals Court, the Federal Appeals Court bundled
it up very nicely, and they packaged it up, I
think knowing that he was going to go to the
next level. So I think that they're going to vote

(23:12):
in the end exactly how the Appeals Court did. But
this is pure politics right now. So he put three
people and remember, and they're going to drag it out.
They're going to drag it out so that Jack Smith
can't do his dojks.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Well, here's the killer. He appointed three Federal Supreme Court
justices while he was in office, and the fact that
the Lord Court has already made a ruling on it.
The Supreme Court is fed off of them. They should
have said no. My fear is that them even giving
him a hearing, Bobby, is that they should have just
denied it from jump, but they did not. I'm telling you,

(23:47):
it is mind bothering to see which way we are
going with all of this. But this is the America
that we live in.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
If they did, I mean part of me I feel
sort of mixed on it, Like it didn't even occur
to me that they would try to drag things out
because these are people that are highly educated and they're supposed
to be impartial and blah blah blah. Because I was
thinking part of me thought, you know that President Trump,
with his personality, is not going to believe anybody but
the best right. So if the best make the same decision,

(24:17):
which is what everybody seems to think, it really can't
go very well. Even his own counsel. I don't think
that they think that they could win on the merits
of the actual case. So I was thinking that might
be okay, but they need to do it expeditiously like
they did with the ruling back when Nixon was you know,
it was either going to be impeached, thrown out, resigned.

(24:39):
You know, when the all that Watergate stuff was going on,
I was thinking that they would hear it like within
the next week and make a decision by the end
of March. I'm making it up fantasy. I was completely
a fantasy. They're not even going to hear the case
until April twenty second, and all we can hope is
that they make some sort of decision really quickly. I'm

(25:02):
hoping they're not going to drag it out so that
this case doesn't go because it's you know, Biden could
do anything then, right, it's only while you're in office.
But Biden could do something horrific and he could just say, oh,
I got immunity.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well here's the killer. I don't think I don't even
think we have hit the precipice of all the charges
that are going to come up against Donald Trump. The
crime that he have, the ninety one and federal indictment charges,
I mean federal charges that he has now won't even
come close to what we don't know. And I believe
there's a lot more that we don't know that happened
while he was the sitting president of these United States,

(25:40):
because they give it to us in doses. So I
don't even think that we know. But I'm telling you,
when it does come out, if they give him full
community child but his words that he said, thank you,
Missylua Fara Kahn, who said that he was the most
transparent person on the planet. He said that I could
shoot so many years ago, he said, I could shoot
somebody on the avenue and nothing would happen to me.

(26:02):
It is really starting to look like that body. It
really is starting to look like that.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well. I hope to God that they come back with
the right decision. As I said, my big fear is
I want them to do it time. I want them
to be fair, flame and to do it timely so
that everything else can push on. Because the Jack's case
is really the case that it's the only when anyone's interested.
Nobody cares about the hush money. Nobody cares about you know,

(26:25):
it's it's so long ago and whatever. But that one
is to me, that's an important one. And they're also
doing one on free speech about what social media can
put out, so I'll be interested. I'd rather than put
that on hold and do Trump's case. But it'll be
interesting to say what happens with that one.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
You say his name three times? Let me go to
out of space. Can we talk about the Odysseus.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Say that yeah, that's it is? It just did it. Hey,
they were up there. It's the first first anything sent
up to the moon in in like over fifty years
since the seventies. I don't know how much they got.
They got some pictures, but the one thing that they
did get was some frozen water, which is remember I

(27:13):
kept saying, I don't know what the benefit of this is,
because there's always a benefit, there's always I know that
they put they brought a bunch of hardware up there too,
in some of the high hardware like titanium, and there's
like all sorts of things we get from space. Like
they go and they do something, we find find out,
oh yeah you can, you can use it for that,
and then we take that technology and we come we
kind of improve it. So it will be interesting to

(27:33):
see what they do with the water.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Well, personally, I think that this is so adious. Odysseus
was drunk because as soon as they're landed, it turned
over on its side. I think it had been in
my edibles.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I hope it was putting up a cell phone tower.
Wouldn't that be nice so that I don't lose out.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't know what they're trying to find out there,
you know, they keeps holling. They want to live there,
and they want to live they want to make an atmosphere.
Y'all gonna stay up out of there if they listen. Listen,
ET went home and the ET was nice. But I
bet you them brothers that he is was probably a
mother hubb But ooh, I don't know, Bobby, I'm sure
and I love that the mankind was created to want

(28:17):
to explore and want to know more and want to,
you know, find things out. But some things I don't
know if I want to know body.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
No, I mean, if it's medical advantages and stuff, like
you know, something that keeps popping in my mind. I
feel so badly for is that well, Wendy Williams with
the dementia, Like if you can get if you can
make medical advantage advances based on whatever you can get
up there, or whatever you could get actually just in space,
not necessarily on the moon while they were there, I

(28:47):
think that's terrific. I am not. I am like you.
I am not going to watch that special because I
feel like she's being taken advantage of And I don't
know who benefits flame, like who gets the mind Like
I just don't get it. Somebody was saying to me,
you know that they she got to be the executive producer.
I'm like, I don't know if she knows her name.

(29:08):
She still thinks it's her ex husband's name. Like, so,
is she really executive producing something that could just be
a title they gave her?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I feel badly. By God bless her. She was a force.
I mean she for ten or so years, she was
like a total household name.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh, Queen of Queen of Daytime, the show, Queen of
all the mess. But you know, yep, And some people
will say it was her calm or some people say,
but you never know what's going to happen to you
in this life, and that's just the truth. You just
live each day and hope that every day this or
that can be better, but you don't never know what's
gonna happen. But I don't want to see it because
I want my fond memories of Wendy cutting up and

(29:46):
reading and gossiping, you know, because at that time when
she was that queen, I enjoyed it. So I don't
want to see her like this. I've seen some clips
on ex Bobby and oh my god, she's She's not unrecognizable.
But the person that I knew is unrecognizable, That's what
I want to say.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
But nobody's home, you.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Know, and the lights ain't on. Somebody's there, but ain't
no life on. But somebody is there, but the a't
no light.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
And there but for the grace of God, you know,
because you can get early onset Alzheimer's, you can get anything.
So I wish are the best. And I hope to
God whoever is taking care of her is actually taking
care of her.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
They have her in a safe place, and it seems
like it's very messy everything that's going on right now.
So I wish her all the best. Did you hear
Trump is selling sneakers?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Oh they're gold.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
They look like what Sophia from the Golden Girls came
out with one day. I don't know what they the ugliest,
the ugliest sneakers, but I guess Fat Joe bought a
pair and everybody's all up in arms. I don't know
why he's bragging.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
On them, but he said he was. He said he
was the sneaker collector, but he was never going to
wear them. My issue with the whole situation, why I
talk about it and it's still supporting the plight. But
and I get that if you the bottom on the low,
you could have kept them on the low. But the
Internet has made so many different people and so many
different types of people seek attention, and it's almost intoxicating

(31:18):
the way they I need some likes, I need some attention.
I need to be validated. I need to prove to
people that this person likes me, and I can get
this many people to watch me. And it is almost
mind boggling. Bobby, But I to me that and know
this that at Joe, But that's supporting something that you
say you're not against. That you're against So if you're

(31:38):
not going to wear and what was the purpose of
buying them? Yeah, they may become collectives items, but to
whom other supporters of the same person that you won't
vote for. Yeah, the logic don't make sense to me.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, it's bizarre. And he also the little clip because
they only show you the clickbait like that comes on
your Instagram or whatever. But he said he didn't pay
for them, So then are you in the premi of
the horrible comments that Fox News was saying that he's
trying to make black photos uh more identifiable to him
because they like sneakers. Is that what they is? That

(32:09):
what he was thinking, So they sent him a pair
of free There's no way I would have hawked those.
As you said, keep him on the low box and
put him in the in the closet if you think,
but don't talk about him no any Yeah, poor kid
will be who won't have the money will be saving
because he got him. So they must be worth something, right,
I mean some of the comments that he's just coming

(32:32):
up with Trump is just I know that Alvin Bragg
wants to put a gag order on him. I'm like
he should just have a just universal gaggler like anything.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
And and and here's the writing on the will Bobby.
If you think that he is out of out of
control with they hit him with a gag order before
he just he just he just ignored it. They have
they've hit him with all these charges and caught him,
found him, did to write guilty on so many things.
If he gets immunity, could you even possibly.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Imagine he'd be a monster, like like a real monster,
because he would he would get off. And Nikki Haley
still running. She lost, She lost in her own state
she was a two turner and she lost in her
own state. The only thing I was listening to them
actually discussed it on the View the other day and
I said, I thought that was sort of interesting. And
they were saying that this actually speaks to just the

(33:29):
primary the facts that Niki Healey actually got forty percent,
it means he's not going to bode well for the
general election. They had, you know, one of their talking
heads that were on, and I thought, oh, it's't that
kind of interesting. I never even kind of thought it
like that. But I think she's hanging in just to
get the spot if he gets rested, you know, like
if something happens, and she'll be, you know, standing in line.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well, I did say before on this on this platform,
she was the more she talks, the worse she gets.
I think Nikki Haley has some great talking points, but
I think that she just I don't know. I think
that she got beside herself a little got a little
too moved a little too fast, that's the word I
want to say. And she just was she was over
talking herself and then on very important topics, especially important

(34:16):
to person a person like me, when it comes down
to the black issues and slavery. Whatever she missed. She
dropped the ball as opposed to saying, well, let's let
me get back to you of that or what have you.
And I know people wanted an answer, but sometimes those
spontaneous answers get you in way more trouble than just
saying let me get back to you, because let me
think about it, let me process it and answer in

(34:39):
a way that I would have everybody at least with
a cool temperament. I think she just.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, they dug it deep before. I mean, she came out.
She came out like a lion.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
She came out like a lion, but she going out
like a.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Lit She got layup. That's like March right. So with
Alabama has the IDP. So they ruled that IVF that
the that the embryos are children, so, which is really
tough for parents because you know the ir parent. They
have the IVF process. They fertilize the eggs. Some of

(35:14):
them are what they call viable and they save those
and others are not viable. They're out of poor quality.
They're not going to survive whatever, and they're not going
to be able to destroy them. So I don't know
if it's been since since removed, but all IVF is
sort of on pause. So all these poor women over
the past two months that have been pumping themselves full
of full of hormones aren't able right now to have

(35:37):
their IVF done in Alabama. And that said, the Attorney
General said he has no intention intensions of prosecuting IVF participants,
so I think they're sort of revisiting it anyway. Nicki
Haley came out and said she agrees with the ruling.
Dead embryos are children. And I'm thinking, Nikki, if you're
trying to get if you're trying to get anybody that's

(35:57):
sort of like a moderate and not like the Mega right,
you just lost it and the independence. Not to me,
that wasn't the smartest thing that she could have said.
I think I would have just kept my mouth shut
with that one. Or again, I need to I need
to speak to get to speak to someone about the
science of it something.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah. That with that one, Bobby, I don't know, I
don't know. I don't even know what to say about
that because they don't want to say something ridiculous like
we're our tadpoles fish, I mean, our tadpost frogs.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
No, they're they're they're fertile, they're fertilized, they're already passed
the point. So that's the thing. And embryo is not
viable outside of anything outside of the tube. So if
if you and your partner had had your kids by
by IVF, are you supposed to carry around in a
test tube in the back of your refrigerated those embryos
for the rest of your life that that CONTs of.

(36:49):
It's it just makes no sense to me, but it's
it's yeah, well, well we'll see where that goes. But
my god, if that that stuff starts to pass, we
all better look out because none of us are safe
with anything.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, it's it's it's whoa. It's like whoa, Bobby Clifford.
It's like, whoa, it is whoa.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know what this month is, it's this is the
last Tomorrow's leap Leap Day. It's Black History Month. It's
going out. It's going out like a like a lion.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Wait a minute, tomorrow is tomorrow the twenty ninth, Yes,
it is okay, So February to twenty ninth, twenty sixteen,
doctor uh, doctor Terry de Brow did my breasting plants.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Oh so they're only a couple of years old.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Then they're only a few years old.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's hysterical. So that's today.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
They right, it was the leap year, so I always
remember that, and he did fantastic work. If you guys
haven't seen that episode of Batch, it was a Father's
Day edition, go figure, so go watch it.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's hysterical. How long do person new planes last?

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, these new ones are supposed to last like twelve
to fifteen years, but I don't put that much use
to man, so they might last a little longer.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I just care. I never thought about it.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Somebody.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I heard somebody say that they have an expiration, Like,
there's an expiration, Like I just assumed you put them
in and they sort of lasted forever. I didn't know
that unless you wanted to go bigger.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Well, you change the air pressure and your tires. You
change your tires, so everything gets gets gets old. You know,
you gotta get them, and they get droopy and saggy,
they like they like regular booths. They just you know,
fall by the wayside. All of that.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
You need an over the shoulder boulder holder. But I
chose for my Black History month Tony Morris said, who
was born Chloe Anthony Wolford and nineteen thirty one. She
was a pull surprise winner and a novelist and one
of the big things that she did was Beloved in
nineteen eighty seven, so she was pretty amazing. I've actually

(39:09):
ordered the book. I'm going to read the book because
I had never had it. I've heard it, talked about
it a lot. I've listened to the book, but I
actually want to read it in like write notes and
all that jazz.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
It was.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
It was like an American Civil War. It was kind
of cool. I think they had like a ghost that
was from the Civil War. They bought a house or something.
I'm interested to see it.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
My Black History choice for this month is late great
Paul Mooney. I'm going to have to say that. I
don't have to say that because Paul Mooney, who was
an American comedian who was very and did Gregory, because
I'm choosing comedians today because I'm a comedian, because they
were not only were their comedians, but they were very

(39:50):
powerful in the movement of a black a black empowerment,
and not just in power, but equal rights for all.
And to remember that you were a person in this country.
But Paul Mooney. I never met Dick greg I did
see him one time at a show, but I didn't
get a chance to meet him. But I listened to
some of his stuff now. He was very, very prolific,

(40:11):
especially about the world that we live in now. But
Paul Mooney I met a few times, and he was
so funny, and he was always political. He was always
pointing out the differences in race, especially black people and
white people. But when I met him once for the
first time, he told me. He says he saw me
on stage as a club called the Common Union, which
we no longer have, but I missed that club so much.

(40:32):
He says, I don't care who you on stage with, bitch,
they gonna always remember the sissy in the dress. And
he said it to me, just like that. Bobby and
I told a girlfriend of man and she said, well
you offended. I said, not at all. That was a
great compliment. That was talent in somebody. You could give
me exactly, and some things out of the way you
receive them and not the way that people pour them

(40:53):
into you, because you looking for a challenge. I thought
that made He was saying to me that I made
such a statement that it did matter. If I was
gonna say the greatest person in the world, I would
always be remembered. But and I say that point to say,
as a lot of these things, these distractions that you
arguing over the internet with, you invite yourselves to things
that you weren't even invited to. Y'all, we have to

(41:14):
stop all of this because it's getting ugly. But Paul
Mooney was a great comedian and so is the Gregory.
So those are my choices for the Black History the
end of Black History Month tomorrow. And uh yeah, I
know laugh alone is not a long episode tonight because
we do on a countdown how many more we have
six or seven?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I think this is forty three so nine.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. We thank you guys.
Let me tell you something. If we lose this election
by one vote and you have chosen to do because
what have the Palestinians put on there? They have a
new thing called none something non commissioned vote that none
of that is relevant. None of that the third party.
And I understand that we should have a third party.

(41:56):
I understand that we want to have it. I'm with
that too, but we too close to a finish line
of not being able to make that work between now
and November fourth, that we have to Our only options
are President Biden or ex President Trump. That is the
only options that we have right now, and a vote
for not either one of those is the wrong vote

(42:17):
because it's just a waste of time. If you're going
to take the time to vote, at least vote for
a relevant party. I'm not telling you who to vote for.
I would like for you to vote blue. I'm just
being very honest, but I cannot tell you who to
vote for. But if you vote for anything else besides
the Herd or the Blue, it's a waste of your
time in hours because the vote will just go get discarded.

(42:38):
And I know it doesn't sound good to say that,
but that is just the actual truth. And let's build
back better. Ooh, come on your body, let's build back
better now. Put by my opinion, put back back in
office for four more years. And while he's in office
day one, let's start pushing to a the narrative to
have a third.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Or no party or you know everybody, So have everybody
that's out there and they just run for president. They
don't have to be sides. They could just be who's
the best, who's the best for the job. And I
feel like this is my opinion. This is like an
opinion piece, you guys. I feel like this isn't a
red or blue this time. This is our do you
like democracy or do you not? It's because the Republican

(43:26):
candidate isn't there. There were many candidates that would have
been more viable. Unfortunately they didn't make it. It's it's
former President Trump, and we already know he's told us
who he is. He shows us who he is. I mean, he,
as I said, just this last weekend, he had three
or four different racist comments. He's already said he's going

(43:48):
to get rid of them best NBC that was the
latest thing, a little clip I heard of him. So
he's telling us who's going to be. So you either
want that or you want somebody who's got his nosed
out down and doing the job. Does he look old, Yes,
the poor man he didn't age well with the last
three years. They've been up on him, but he's still
doing the work.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
To be fair, no president has. The only person that
looked exactly the same going in and coming out was
the president that did not do any of the work.
And that was President Trump because he ran on a
platform again of the border patrol, I'm building a wall.
Here we are eight years later, no wall. Tons of
immigrants still coming into the United States that everyone is

(44:32):
against but y'all. But that was his platform. That is
how he won, and he did not deliver. He will
not deliver again on anything but the bad stuff. He
will not deliver on any of the promises that he
is making.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's only going to be a dictator on day one
because he's going to get rid of everything else so
that he can be a dictator for all time. He
doesn't need any more than that, right, So he's telling
us who he is, and I don't think he's necessarily
one hundred percent stable. I'd like to see his with
his physical shows, because he's make plenty of gaps himself.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
But I'm calling his wife the wrong name. I can
only imagine what he calls his children mercy.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
I'm like, was he did he see a car? Or
something like? What kind of gap is that? But we
do all make him. If he wasn't being so miserable
to Joe Biden, I wouldn't even talk about that because
we've all. My mom goes through all three of her girls'
names until she gets the right one, you know, every
single time. And she's been doing that since their thirties.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
And to be very transparent, I love the I love
the showmanship of Trump. I love the ridiculousness of him
on a reality TV show, but not in his and
not in the head of the country, not in the
White House, not as the president of the United States.
I just don't think that he meets the criteria for that,
and neither do I. But I'm not running for president.

(45:48):
And there it is right there, y'all.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
No nor that. What do I want to And I say, God,
bless the eighty one year old who's willing to do
fourteen to eighteen hour days and still do the work
because there is enough, yaball.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah. President Obama looked went in and looking young and fresh,
came out those good.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Jogged up those stairs. I remember seeing him just even
a couple of months in and in his temple started
going white. If he wasn't jogging anymore, he was gonna walk.
I'm like, oh, this is a lot harder than I thought,
because he walked into that horrible recession, right. But anyway,
but that's it, folks.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
That's a very hard job, by the way, and it's
not a job that I would won't even for a day,
they think, would you want to be president for a day?
Not even an hour? Not even an hour?

Speaker 2 (46:35):
A lot of responsibility on your shoulders. Everything you do
is wrong. You you can never win. I talk with
friends who are on the other side, and I used
to be able to have a conversation. It's really my
mom's my mom's people, and they get themselves so wound up.
We can listen to the exact same speech and come
away with two totally different outcomes, And I'm like, did

(46:58):
you hear what they said? But nope, Yeah, so yeah,
I want to get away with that, you know, get
over that. I want that to end. I'm hoping, I'm hoping,
hopefully November the right thing will happen and the next
four months we can get some more work done.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Well, let's see, y'all. We're down to the wire. And
it's very important and very imperative that you early vote
to walk your vote in, just take the time to
do the responsibility of being an American citizen, because to me,
that is one of the main responsibilities of being American. Yeah,
we got freedom of speech and freedom to bear arms

(47:34):
and all of that, but your freedom to choose the
right to vote for the one that you feel is
best for you. For you, But I'm not right now.
I don't want you to speak individually. I want you
to think as a country, because that's what we're going
to lose. We're going to lose our country. I don't
want to lose my country, Bobby. They keep talking some
go back to where you came from, Obama House in

(47:55):
New Zealand. Give me two million dollars and put me
on a nice cruise ship over there with all my
front and everything, and I'll go.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I have no this is where I came from. I
wouldn't even know how to go over and and Potato
pick an island that will be devastating to me. I
got the hands for it, though, Bigness. I'm a catch
in the old country. I'm a real catch.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Oh my god, Lady Emma, thank you guys for joining
us for this week's episode of Laughing larn And again,
like always, we will never change the model here because
here are laugh Aline. We are not trying to get
you to change your mind. We are only trying to
get you to use your mind, because why, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
And a vote is the even worse thing to wat
And I'm telling you right now, all of you guys
who are talking about I don't like either one of
the candidates, well, guess what. A whole lot of us
are not crazy about either one of these candidates. But
your responsibility for to choose because this is the America
that we live in. We have to make a choice
of who we're going to pick if we lose this presidency.

(48:57):
And I'm talking to the Democrats about one vote, to
people who did not vote because they say it's not
going to matter, you are the reason we lost. We
lost by your one vote.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's what it's going to come down to. I mean,
remember we have the electoral College. People, we need every
stinking vote that we can possibly get.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah, because we're headed for oh a brick wall, and
they didn't build the other wall. But we damned your
headed for brickwall because he didn't build that other wall.
So we headed to that wall. We won't never hit
nothing because that wall was never built.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Please, I'm going to be bashing my head on the
Wall if it goes the other way, let me tell you.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Thank you guys for joining us listen. I am in Chicago.
I will be at the Chicago That Factory March twenty
ninth and thirtieth, which is a Friday, and said to
get your tickets on the website or at the box
office thirty one seventy five off Broadway. I will be
on a bunch of different media platforms this Friday, which
is the first It's Friday. The first.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Friday is Yes.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Friday is April first, seven o'clock am. I will be
on WGC. I went on seven point five here in Chicago.
Then I'm doing Fox News and then I'm doing ABC
without Warner. So you guys listening slays. Thank you so
much for all the gratitude. You can follow Bobby Clifford
at Clifford Bobby on Instagram and at Bobby Clifford on Facebook.
And I am a Flay Monroe on a social media

(50:17):
platforms except for Instagram my Monroe dot flame until I
get my old page back. We love you, we appreciate you,
we need you, and we need you. And not only
do we need you to support our podcast, but as
American people, we need you. We need you to step up,
step out, step in, step around, step on, because this

(50:39):
year is critical and I mean that. I'm saying that
with my whole heartfelt heart because I'm afraid and I'm
never afraid, but we need you, Bobby Clifford, you and me.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I heard you. I'm a I know you need me.
I'm gonna be there with the bells on. I'll be
jingling the whole way, good way into vote.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
I'm trying to vote in my man name in and
my woman naming, but got to do it. I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I could talk deep and I could go for a
Bobby Bobby right.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Thank you Aaron Howard, our producer, for giving us a
fabulous or another season, and we would talk to you
guys so on, peace out, good night, Bobby ce bye, honey.
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