July 20, 2025 • 57 mins
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford examine the current state of American governance, media narratives, and public health transparency. With humor and candor, they unpack how leadership decisions ripple through society—from food security and immigration to the overlooked challenges facing farmers. They also unpack civic responsibility, the power of compassion in politics, and the lingering questions surrounding high-profile cases like Jeffrey Epstein’s. As the next election cycle looms, they encourage listeners to stay informed, get involved, and never underestimate the power of their vote. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
What's up?
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah?
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You know she raided shot towns on speaking to the
grown a second, we're gonna laugh, cut him and kick
it and at again. We leave it with just a
lifted spirits.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Think you want to revisit so your first second listen,
young folks say it's list Oh, folks say we think
it good?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
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what you do?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Can't no kiss you what I do?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian's Flame on Roe and welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to episode two of season five is Left and Learned.
I'm here with my gorgeous co host.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I had tuts. How's it going? You're out on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I see I am on the road, Bobby. I'm trying
to work. Listen, it's lifetime, but we're gonna get to
that part. But I'm in Chicago. I'm still on the
funny and Feelers too with Tiffany Hattis. I will be
in Columbus, Ohio tomorrow which is Friday, and Lawrenceburg, Indiana
on Saturday. So yeah, get your tickets at Tiffany Haddies
dot com. Out outside of that, Bobby, look, girl, I
(02:18):
don't want to talk about my week. I want to
talk about this week. Good God, Jesus, what is going
on in your country? Bobby? I just renewed my passport.
I got in both my names, the he, the she,
the we, the damn. I got to get up out
of here. I don't know what is happening, Bobby in
our country? What are you all doing over there on
that side?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I don't know, there is There's so many things that
are that are happening. I mean crazy things like you know,
Trump is going to try to revoke Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship,
which you can't do from somebody that was born here
in this country. Only treason if she did something that
was treason us. You know, just like crazy stuff from
(03:00):
that end, and it just swings. The pendulum has been swinging.
I don't know where we're going from here. I mean,
he this administration is really going to have us in
a mess. If things keep going the way that they are,
it's nuts. So, yeah, I don't even have a passport.
(03:21):
I should get what I let mine laps a million
years ago because I wasn't doing any international travel. But
they said it's good now just for to have as
an ID, So maybe I'll have.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Do you think that you're gonna get picked up as
the immigrant? Bobby? I just don't see that.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I also don't you know, Ponomy says, who the hell's
going to take us? It's not like I can go
to Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You said the the Trump Trump is losing it right
in front of their eyes, in front of the whole
world's eyes. He appointed someone to a cabinet position, and
then well who appointed him? How did he get the position?
He is losing it right in their eyes, Bobby, and
they are discarding it. Trump is allegedly from Flame Unroe's
(04:08):
version Ronald Reagan two point zero. He just quoted this today,
one of his positions that he appointed one of the
people that he appointed a position of power. He's like, well,
who appointed him? How do you get here? He didn't remember, Bobby.
It's all over the news right now.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, they you know, you've got Powell, who you know
is holding fast Gerard Powell to a Jerome Powell, excuse me,
to our interest rates. And he's furious with it. He
got the GOP altogether kind of took a poll about
getting rid of him, and he's blaming Biden for putting
(04:44):
him in. He put him in the first term. Biden
reappointed him, but he put him in the first term.
But like hot off the press, and I actually mean
this seriously that I'm not even joking about this hought
off the press is that people have been noticing all
week about he's got the swollen ankles and he's looks
like he's got makeup on his hands, and and it
(05:06):
turns out he does. He has a condition. I'm sure
the makeup is because he was bruising, you know, having
lots of blood and stuff taken and as you get older,
you know, you do bruise very easily. And he's got
a vascular condition where the blood does not pump from
the legs up to the heart. But you know, my
mom has has a vascular condition and they had a
(05:27):
tester for vascular dementia because if the blood isn't pumping
from the feet to the heart. Isn't pumping from the
heart up to the brain. He might have.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, let's just let's just be very honest. That ain't
happening quite some time with that one anyway. Yeah, but
you see, But the hypocrisy of lives because according to
his doctor, according to his doctor, not even a year ago,
he was the epitome of health. While they were saying
that Biden already knew that he had cancer and woo woo.
(05:56):
But because this with this vascular I'm sorry that this
is the situation for Trump. But if this didn't happen overnight,
this is an ongoing process. But his doctor said, not
even a year ago, that he was the healthiest president.
His words, I'm the healthiest they've ever seen any president.
I'm healthy anything.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
He's saying it now, he's saying it now. I think
the only reason that he came forward because Wayne, he
doesn't give us. So the one thing that Joe Biden did,
God bless and Obama, everybody everybody but him. I think
it's they said it started around the time of Nixon.
Nobody probably looked for it before that was that every
year they are very transparent and they come forward with
(06:36):
their physical you know what the results of the physical were.
So you know, we knew there were little piccadellos with Joe,
you know, a little little you know, he was having
mobility issues. We knew like like almost like a vertigo.
So he was having pete every day so that he
wasn't so stiff. You know, the stiff is because something's
going on in there. But he came right out and
he told us about it. Trump has not I think
(06:58):
in twenty sixteen. I believe it was CNN that was
stating and this was this was while he was running,
not now, they had said that he other than twenty
sixteen to get in because he wasn't railing against everything.
Then he gave his That was the last time he
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gave his physical. Since then, he has never given any
physicals and any physical results, including while he was running
this time. So we don't know. I do believe that
chronic venus insufficiency is something not for everybody, but I
think it's something that's fairly common as you age. You know,
his little his little publicist was coming out. You know,
(07:41):
he doesn't have a hard issue. He doesn't have this issue,
you know, but that could and maybe maybe not. I'm
not a doctor, but I would think if you're not
pumping full blood, those are things that could be around
the corner. You know, it starts with the feet, then
it'll be the hands, then it'll be what you know,
and again he could be the mind. So he might
be having little blocks, is what I'm saying, because you know,
(08:03):
everything is company. He's not getting full oxygen or something.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Sleepy Joe, my sleepy Joe. I'll take sleepy Joe over
demy Donald any day of the week.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, but this is this is just just a difference,
you know. I just Donald Trump is not a kind, compassionate,
decent person overall. You know, Joe has made some missteps,
but he is a decent absolutely absolutely that that's my point.
(08:36):
But he is a decent, compassionate person. So you know,
they're kinda they're kind of, you know, two of the same.
I mean, but Joe was hitting back because and claims
with Trump that he was mentally compromised. He's probably like, Okay, uh, Donald,
you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Hurting by to see how everyone is falling in line,
even some of these major corporations. Because he has sued
a few networks and one and one you know, and
his power is moving even further because I beloved Stephen Colbert,
who has had the Late Nanks Show for more than
ten years, who stands up against the machine. All of
(09:20):
a sudden his show is being yanked.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
From CBA May and twenty six. That's the first time,
I don't know, I mean, David Letiman must be turning over.
That's the first time I think in quite a while
they haven't had a night show, if ever, I think,
and they're saying it has nothing to do with anything
that was said. And I will say Stephen Comb here
is very honest and open, and I think he doesn't
(09:45):
give a ratsay around what he says, because he did
come across they just because of that sixty minutes interview
where Trump felt it was unfair ensued and they settled
for sixteen million. I was shocked by that, and so
were a lot of really Harry reason like a whole
lot of you know, the old UH news characters that
(10:08):
were on it and journalists were on it were either
rolling in their graves or up in arms. But he
did make he did make a few comments. I'm trying
to see if I can I know I had Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Well, the while you're looking for those comments, let me
say they were up in arms because protection.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, no protection for.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Them, because now you're taking this away. And what has
happened has he has put people in positions of power,
especially with their doge that can stop FCC licenses and
stop all kinds of licenses that come through the networks.
So he was it was a trickle down the fact
he he infiltrated their money so they would do it
(10:46):
that he wanted them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
To do, which is not the right thing that if
that doesn't smack authoritarian, I mean controlling the press. So
Colbert had said, I don't know if it was the
night before last had said when the uh he was
speaking about directly to the sixteen million, and he said,
(11:09):
as somebody who's always been proud of this network, he said,
I'm offended, and I don't know if everything will would
repair my trust to this company. And then he made
a joke and said, well, I'd say maybe sixteen million
would help. And so that is that is his employer
directly to his employer. So this might be Trump based,
but I think Steven's response to it might might have
(11:30):
a little a little something something to do with it.
To booze.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Wow, that is that's sad to see that because if
we erase all the voices of it, not even just truth,
but if at least fairness and reason, who do we
have to listen to but people who support everything that
comes out of this man's mouth when he don't even
remember what he see it five minutes ago. Girl, we
had trouble, good God, we had trouble.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Or what he's what he's done. I mean, he's furious
over that. So we were just talking about the interest
rates and he's furious with the chairman, Jerome Powell. But
he he pulled everybody and then I think he got
somebody leaked it somehow. It was leaked that they you know,
they would cuss shock or shocker. They bet they were
(12:18):
backing him. But the markets took u were up in arms,
took a turn, they took a nose, died the next
day because of the thought of removing the chair. So
then all of a sudden, I think he realized that
if he removed removed him doesn't mean that the interest
rates are going to go down either. You know, the
market's too volatile right now with the tariffs and everything else.
(12:39):
That's kind of going on. So I don't know, but
he did make a comment in a couple of interviews
of uh about fraud. You know, well, if we do
find him for fraud, some something about rebuilding. I don't know,
I don't I don't know how. I mean, God bless
(13:00):
Jerome Powell. I'd be resigning and just saying, you know what,
but that's what everybody's doing. All the good people that
that stick up end up resigning. And then I'm so
nervous when Trump is gone what we're going to be
left with. Although I'll tell you I mean and tell
and please tell me if I'm wrong. There are a
(13:22):
lot of people pissed about the Epstein saying a lot
more than I thought was going to happen. Taylors upset.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Can I ask you a personal question? Are you in
one of those fine tapes? Are you on that list? Bobby?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Now? I would I probably would would drop dead if
I saw or anything. And this is going to sound
even more callous, and I really don't mean it to.
I could give a rats rear end about any of that.
I don't understand. You know, if if people because I
supposedly dir sort, I'm probably saying his name wrong. He's
(13:59):
the the Hiard based attorney. He's saying that he never had.
Blackmail is not his thing. So he said, there really
is no client file. It was here, you know, there's
nothing written like you know, the Little Black Book or whatever.
That's what he's saying. He went down a few things.
He said, you know, they're looking for something. He said,
BONDI promised something that she never had, which that's what
(14:22):
I think the trouble is. I think that Trump unfortunately
ran on it. He really was more about the RFK, MLK, JFK.
He was going to release all that stuff more. But
and Epstein kind of got in because I did see him.
They've been throwing old interviews into the mix over the
(14:43):
past week, and he kind of was like, well, Epstein
will see. In fact, right off, just before we started speaking,
he's telling them to do grand jury. Told Bondie, you
can release the grand jury. That's not what everybody's looking for.
They're looking for that missing minute on the tape, you know,
of the when he hung himself, and they're looking for
other more juicy stuff, salacious stuff. I don't think that
(15:05):
the grand jury documentation is gonna I don't think that's
going to satisfy them. But it is amazing to see
how many people are furious over it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I'm with you, Bobby about that. I don't give a
damn about who's on there either. I do. I do, however,
care about your pushing the narrative about you don't like
this type of community or that type of ideology. But
are you a pedophile? Because nothing will that will never
stay well with my spirit to think that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You sleep with No, no, no, no, that's what God.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
What I think people want to know. I think that
is more so than anything else I want to I
think they want to see who are who are these
people that we are allowing to lead us or possibly
be in position of power, And they are damned pedophiles openly.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, unfortunately, And that's what I agree, And
I think that that's what got them. It is the
But he's blaming everybody Trump, it's Obama's. I mean, he
did get a deal. I think it was two thousand
and eight or two thousand and nine, but it wasn't dry.
(16:12):
I'm sure President Obama had nothing to do with the
deal that was between whatever judge was sitting at the time,
and and obviously it didn't. It didn't last too well anyway.
But what I was sort of surprised with is that
he seems a little edgy. He's been in a couple
of uh, you know, news media frenzy people, and when
(16:36):
they're coming up to him and he's and he's speaking
either on the cough or or press conferences, and now
he is furious with his own people. He's blaming us
that they're letting the Democrats do the work for us.
He goes and I don't want I don't want them
as followers or or supporters anymore. Anyway. He's speaking about
his own base, the people that want to see it.
(16:57):
And I think I know he's you know, he can
get very tender if you're railing against him, But I
don't know how smart that is. I mean, he's not
running again, so I guess it's supposedly, so I guess
it's okay. But I don't think you call he's calling
them stupid. You know, that's the quot he made for
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anybody that's not the first following along nothing said.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know what I do want to do the Bobby,
I do want to acknowledge first Lady Malanya Trump and
I'm calling her first lady this week because, uh, when
they went to visit the floods in Texas, the tragedy
in Texas, she spoke and now you know, her English
is a little broken, but I felt like she had
some compassion in her voice about what really happened to
(17:51):
the people down there. I'm sure she don't know much
much ado about any of it anyway, but I thought
she spoke with the compassion. It gave me respect differently.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Tough to see, though I'm agreeing with you, she's far
more where. I don't think he has the compassion gene
or you know, some people have it and some people don't.
I do because she came out against him with abortion.
She came out, you know, with women's rights and women
being able to have their body and be able to
have full control over her their own body. She said,
(18:21):
I would agree with my husband, and I went, WHOA,
And that's compassion knowing that other people can be in
other circumstances. They could be raped, they could be losing
a baby, they could be whatever, and that you know,
they deserve to get the care that they needed. I've
seen her do a few little things like that. I
was shocked. First of all, I was shocked because she
bleached her hand blonde. I don't know who the hell
(18:41):
she was. It looks nice on her, but you know,
she's got a medium brown hair. She must be getting
a little more white or something. And so they're they're
picking it up with the blonde.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You know. You know, my favorite crips to see her
do when they show her slapping his hand away when
he tried to grab her hands, and he said, show
her her slapping his hand where they don't touch me.
I think that is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, well, I mean they they certainly have their They
certainly have their uh, their back and forth, which is
kind of fun to watch. Strangely, he paused money, they
were coming out with an app for weather. This is
Trump and his administration. They weren't coming out they stopped it.
They were coming out for an app for warnings, for
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pre warnings like the floods and the this and the that,
taking into a fact or into account, excuse me, climate
change and whatnot, so people could plan so you could say, Okay,
for my vacation, I'm not going to go to the
Guadalupe River, you know, during July, because this is when
it's apt whatever. It also would warn people. I think
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it would be good for probably farmers or anybody you
know that needs to know what the weather is. And
he paused all monies that were that were being allocated
to that, along with a lot of other moneies which
we can talk about in a second, but he he
paused that, and I thought, really, to me, this wasn't
the smartest time to posit, Like he's sort of changing
(20:07):
his mind a little on FEMA. He's seeing what they're
doing and he's he's not talking about, you know, you know,
taking them away completely.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well. To be to be fair, what was that Kerr County,
Fair County, They Yeah, they had people in positions of
power down there politically who was publicly saying, Joe Biden,
we don't want money from you, we don't want to
get in bed with you. So they but they will
only succeed to it. And that's the problem when you
elect people, when you vote for them, they need to
(20:36):
speak for you, not just not speak up for you,
but speak the way you speak. Because now those people
down there are suffering that they needed that money, they
needed that assistance, but they had these people who want
Joe Biden we don't want the democratic this democratic that
I wish we would get rid of all party systems
and just have one party that we all just had
to live up under as a judicial system because we.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Are too or multiple, you know, have a little bit
of more. It doesn't have to be even you know,
we do have the independent, but that kind of lets
you go each way. But it's funny. People have to
they have to pay attention. So you're right. A lot
of the Southern states turn on their nose up to us.
We're supporting them. They don't look enough to see where
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the blue states are funding the red states. You don't
want my money. You wouldn't have a road on the
you know that will be left without a pothole. You're
getting our money. You're just not savvy enough. Who used
to be very transparent with that, And I'm sorry, I
still love them. Andrew Cuomo during COVID, he would come
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and explain because a lot of them didn't want the
testing and they didn't want this because the moneies were
coming from democratic states, and they're like, but he went
through it. This is where we support you already. Always
the most poverty stricken states, they're the ones that turn
their noses up, their most and we're supplying them with
the cash. You know, we're coastal elite until you know,
(22:06):
you need whatever it is that you need from us.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Racism was quite expensive this election. Uh oh, quite right,
that's the title order episode. Racism was quite expensive this election. Yeah, Bobby,
they did that. They smell there and I and I
and that's what I'm saying. You, one person speaking for
a whole county, the county that voted for this, one
person should have made sure. But Bobby, here's the thing,
(22:31):
here's the killing part about these these Republicans that are
afraid of Trump and the Trumpetins that support what he
believes in. They they are selfish people, very selfish people.
They do not care about the people who put them
in their position's powers, or they don't act like they do.
Let me say that, or they're too afraid to stand
(22:53):
up against it, say hey no, because if you put
your foot down, he goes. He goes apprentice your fire,
you fire, you fire, And they have given him this
power to just fire anybody. I think he gets off
on it personally, but I do I believe.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Probably, But just just to be clear, also to remind people,
because a lot of people believed that that whole Apprentice
show was real. It was all staged people, It was
not real.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I wish we could say that about it, I said
about our country right now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That is not No, it's it's not it's you know,
it's it's a it's a little scary, but yeah, I
mean I I was happy to see that a whole
bunch of the National Guard went home in your neck
of the woods. Finally there's still some people, marines and
stuff that are still there. But you know, they're pulling
some of that back. But people, you have to pay
attention when one of your leaders is saying, we don't
(23:45):
want your money. You're getting it anyway. Why wouldn't you
put something into the safety for your kids, your elderly
you're It makes no sense. Make that money that you're
taking anyway work for you. I don't know. I think
I think that, and I've been saying there's two things.
I think that we need a whole lot, hell a
hell of a lot more in our public schools. I
(24:07):
think that we need, especially when they get to the
high school level, we'll say more. They need to know.
It used to be homemack when we were kids. I
know you just turned fifty this week. We can talk
about that, and I'm really sorry. I'm going to be
there in a couple of months. But they used to
call it home mac and but now I want more
financial independence given there. Teach them how to save, Teach
(24:30):
them what compound interest is, How to balance a checkbook,
whether you actually have a physical checkbook like I do,
or you know, the kids just do it on whatever,
a spreadsheet. Show them all that. Show them how to
be accountable for your money. I think a tt Jan
one of your listeners, and she says, run run your
life like a fortune five hundred company. And that's what
kids desperately need to know that. I also think, I
(24:53):
know we have civics. I mean again, that's an old course.
We learned history in school, and you learned ancient history
and world's history. But we need more politics, basic at
the very basic level. Why it's important to vote. You
know who votes. Go back to the branches. Drive home
that they're all supposed to be equal. It's not the
(25:15):
president up here. Because a lot of kids think the
president rules the world. They don't. We didn't want a
king our forefathers. We have the judicial branch. You know,
when we have Congress, we wanted to spread it out
so it was equal. We need to start driving more
of that stuff because people have to start paying attention.
Wet your whistles so that when the news is on,
you don't tune out. When that stuff comes on, you
(25:36):
actually understand what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
The politics has to be taught by me with a
little joy fun. You know, it's always so scary, it's
always so serious, and you know, we live in a
heavy world right now. The world, the climate of the
world is a heavy syrup, a blanket of syrup and sorrow.
So when you have the teacher like we fund and
(26:00):
it's got to be I don't know, it's got to
be easier to intake because it's so heavy that people
shy away from it. That's why they shy away from it,
you know politics. I didn't get serious about politics until Bill.
I make the joke about Bill Clinton's second term, which
is true. You know something about a blue dress and
you know some stains on the dress. You know, you know,
(26:20):
you know the whole ass. But if had I learned
it in high school from from a teacher that made
it fun, that's why.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
You know we were in high school in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Well, he putting all these cuts into a PBS Schoolhouse Rock.
Schoolhouse Rock was what taught me. The preamble Schoolhouse Rock
on thirty four is singing, we the people in order to.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Form a union that Islam.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So these kids who are still learning the constitution, they
need those outlets because had I had to sit down
to just learned that, it would have been boring and
it would have been took forever. But to be able
to have a jingle to it, a song to it
to made it that made it fun and be able
to watch the cartoon character do it. I was like,
it was easier to receive and to learn. That is
(27:15):
what is missing by everything is so heavy and serious
that if we took it in not with the grain
of salt, but with a little more joy, it might stick.
It really might stick. Do you see how we still
remember to say that dingle and that was you were
babysitting me at the time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I also were a conjunction junction. Yeah, exactly all that,
but that is how you learn, and it does make
it easy.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
They're cutting those he's cutting all of those programs.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's part of his decisions and so when so they're
cutting down everybody, they're cutting snap they are they are
cutting aid to U S A I D, which we
already know and just to throw it out there, you
probably have heard it. It disgusts me. We have five
metric tons of these biscuits that that is in God.
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I want to say Dubai, but I could be wrong.
In fact last week I was wrong. I want to
speak against that Liberia. We did not colonize them. They
were colonized not by yes, but they are English speaking.
I'm going back a lot of years to my history,
so always fact check me. But we have these biscuits
that are sitting that we give to overseas, all sorts
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of I think some go to India, a lot of
them go to Africa, and if they have two biscuits
a day, then that's enough to stave off starvation. And
because we USA I D was ravaged, we don't we
have the biscuits. We have no one on the other
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side flame to make sure they're dispersed to the people.
So what are they going to do? What they are
going to burn them, which is they have the data
one million children will die of starvation over this next
year because they're not getting those biscuits every day. So
instead of he's got this Recision Act, which by the way,
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is zero point ten of one percent of our whole budget.
It's a joke. How about not cut it. Get the
biscuits out, go out. You're not going to be a hero,
but send all the monies out that we're supposed to
that have already been allocated and they're in somebody else's budget.
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Send these this food out so these kids they know
they're going to eat for this year and maybe the
countries will have to figure it out another year, you
know who. I almost felt like, I'm sure she's hearing
about it, although I don't know if she's got the finance.
But McCain's Cindy McCain. She is still big into that,
you know, of feeding the world. So I'm hoping to
(29:56):
God that and she is a good Republican. I am
hoping to God that she and her organizations that she
works with are trying to figure some way to get
those biscuits over the next few days before they and
I don't think a kid cares that they expire. You know,
we have sell by dates on food. It doesn't mean
they're actually going bad. It means you can't sell them anymore,
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you know. So I hope she can somehow figure out
over the next week or two how to get those
biscuits to the kids. And and it sickens me. And
by the way, it's going to cost us one hundred
thousand dollars to burn them. It's costing us money to
get rid of them.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Bobbie Clipper, I believe what. First of all, I hope
that they don't do that either, they get that money,
that food to those kids, especially when to be a
hungry kid, I know what that is. I know what
that is. But to be an important thera world country
like that and really be hungry that that has to
be barbaric. Pat you know what did you miss?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
That? It's mean. It's making me and I'm so sorry
to interrupt you, because humanity, that's theory. It's you this
mean or this. I don't know how how bad I think.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't think that he remembers. I don't even think
that he makes all of these decisions. And you put
up a very valid and you brought up a very
valid point. All of these bills that here signing and
trying to get passed. Bobby Clifford told us, informed us
last week, and I think that we have to embark
on this more and more and more. None of these
will happen until after the midterms. What we have to
do is show up at that mid term like a maniac,
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like they're giving away free everything, because this is what
we got to do to shut down anything that he
has signed. Because a lot of people don't know that Bobby,
we really have to start getting that message out that
a lot of these laws that he has signed to
go into effect will not happen until after the mid terms.
If we cancel him out on the midterms, it's all
going away. So that is what we really have to
(31:45):
get on get on board, get with we. Of course
we're gonna have differences and we're gonna see things differently,
but if we want to save our world, we better
see the same picture at.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
The same time and pay attention. And the other people
that I'm hoping have their eyes wide open are the farmers,
because he is screwing them over. He told them he
was going to give him this, he was going to
give him that. We just talked about these They're they're
getting rid of the app that's going to tell about
the weather. He said that he was going to put
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the onus. I don't know how this helps the farmers,
but the ponness on the farmers as far as migrants,
and now Nome comes out this weekend says, oh no,
they have to leave. We can let them leave and
come back. These people aren't going to leave and come back.
So we're talking about burning biscuits over in another country
when our food's going to be rotting on the vine
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because it's going to be absolutely nobody to pick up
that food. In the hospitality and the I mean, so
I am summering on Cape Cod and the Cape is
notorious like the Hamptons that it's very I mean, there's
tons of people live here now. At one time they didn't.
It really was a summer place. But you don't you
go to a restaurant, you're waiting, you know, there are
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nots of people that are out there. The staff, because
we used to have when when we first got the
house in the nineties, Ireland was the big the big
country that everybody came. They'd come for the summer and
they'd be the maids for the motels and hotels. And
you know, everybody that waited on you had the Irish brogue.
It was cute. And then it's gone through just like
everywhere else in the world, it's gone through different iterations
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of different countries. Coming this year, there there's nobody here.
You know, you're and there's nobody here, doubt because of this.
There aren't a lot of people that are down here.
You know, usually it is gridlock to get out and
it's it's nice, but I also like my community to
be able to get those monies. We count on tourist
money as well. But uh, you know, for he promised,
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he told us he was taking everything away. And then
somebody in his base, something that was powerful, must to
come to him and said, what are we going to
do about the farmers, because this is we're not gonna
have food. You're not gonna you know, the berries you
eat every morning. You're not going to have the cheese
for your big mac.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
You know is really might.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
But and that's probably why his ncles have swollen. But
you're not going to have that. You're not going to
have you know, whatever the lettuce is. And so then
all of a sudden he was turning over the past
few weeks and kind of, you know, he pivots, he
doesn't want to say he was wrong to begin with,
but then he says, well, but we're not going to
do it for the farmers and and uh service service
jobs like hotels, and because he's got them, and now
(34:27):
all of a sudden, his henchmen are now saying it's
totally different. So it will kill me to sit and
watch food. You know, not only are we not going
to have it, you know, and it's going to cost
us a fortune, but to see it just rotting and
nobody actually getting to benefit from it. And these the
farmers will the wonder because they count on those crops.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
The farmers voted for Trump in an abundant, in an
abundant way.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Definitely, I'm hoping they pay attention.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
And and I am so sorry that some of them
are losing their generations of farms. But you knew who
he was because he told you who he was, he
told you what he was gonna do, and you'd seen
him in action before you needed to make a conscious
decision going another way. Not that I think that would
have made any any difference right now, because I damn
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show believed I personally believed that there was some shit
in the game, is what we would say in the
black community with those machines. I don't believe that it
was all completely legit, but that is just my belief.
We're waiting for the proof to come out in the pudding.
He's almost admitted it two or three times anyway, So
I'm just saying what he has damned near said. But
(35:40):
I don't know if that would have made a difference.
Boy me, but I'm like, some of them really thought,
I'm like, and some of them knew that their whole
system ran off of these foreign workers, these so called immigrants.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
He said something different, though, we remember flameing. What he
told us was that he was going after the criminals.
I watched, Oh god, he's the borders are he said, Holamo.
It's because I know somebody with that. Last night I
always do his name. Oh my god, I'm I'm having
a brain cramp. I saw him last night on Quo Quo. Oh,
(36:14):
and he was like, oh no, I've been looking at
the numbers and everybody they're all criminals. These people aren't
criminals that come over. There are some criminals, of course
they are. They're bad in anything, but not the majority
of the people that are coming over, they're telling you,
thank you, Homan. I always want Hallamo. I'm always calling
him that, which is stupid. You know. They're trying to
(36:35):
twist what they're saying. I mean, please, I think everybody.
I don't know if there was one American, even the
bleeding heart liberal American, that wouldn't say, yeah, get the
criminals out of here, get the pedophiles, the trial rapists,
the rapists in general, the murderers, the drug dealer is absolutely,
get them up. But that's not what I'm seeing that's
(36:57):
going out.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
And then he gets into the crazy talk that he's
going to send American citizens out. He doesn't care, you can't.
And the whole alligator in Alcatraz, the they we've got
a first tour of that over the past week and
people were shocked. They said, they have them. The The
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one of the reps from Florida said, it is they
are gemmed in there in cages and the food that
they're feeding is half of the quantity that they're feeding
the employees. It's not and it's hot, they said. The
supposedly the ac was on it was hot of the hell.
You know, you know in there, it's it's it's not
(37:42):
the way that you treat people, you know, It's just
not the way. And why wouldn't we Why send them back?
I also feel like we have some sort of responsibility.
If they came to this country and they did something illegal,
the easy thing is to send them back to their country.
But did they get punished on that side, or did
they just go back into their own country. If they
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did something illegal, they should be punished here and be
in our jail, so at least we know they're off
the streets for whatever the time is, you know, and
not send them back to Mexico where they could rape, murder, mayhem.
You know again, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
You said they wanted to stay away all the rapists
and the pedophiles. They would have had to start in
Washington first, right, Bobby. That is I've watched how they
talk about the conditions, and that alligated Alcatraz. They said
the food they only feed them one time a day.
They said the food was full of allegedly was full
of maggots.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Maggots here I read that show.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
And there was no privacy for the men to go
to the restroom or shower and just just crazy. And
I'm like, well, who works there? Do you know you
said that about They figure they give them half of
what the staff gets, but the staff has to live
in those same conditions that those prisoners live in the
outside your facility.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh and walking around, I wouldn't if there were pythons
and everything else, I wouldn't want it either. And what
Holman said his response was, you know, and he is,
he has been in under Democrats and under Republicans, but
he said the conditions are better than what they are
in a prison. But these are people that, you know, okay,
(39:24):
and the maggots. I'm even going to give them a
little credit because we have a mutual friend that lives
in Florida and I visited multiple times, and let me
tell you, I could fry an egg off my giant
Irish ass. Sometimes it's so hot down there, So it's
probably if they have that food stored, you know, in
some sort of canteen area somewhere for multiple hours, it's
they probably are maggots because it's bacon.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
It's like it's just so hot, Like you don't throw
trash down there. They have trash removed a couple of
times a week. I only have it once a week,
but it's because of the heat, because of maggots and stuff.
So it's not like they're giving them meggot food. It's
just that the food they get to get better, storage
they get get better, a better system put into place.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
You're so cute, You're so cute. Fair, They don't give
a damn that they give it means Bobby, they don't
care about those people. They treat them to me, in
my opinion, they treat those people like like the Constitution
has Black Americans, there's three fifths of a person.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, well I don't like that either. That makes me
sick to my stomach. But you know we have I mean,
they're they they're doing that recision. So we just talked
about the MPR is yet getting like all of the
funding for the public broadcasting, and and I saw to myself,
aren't you clever? Alaska's governor is all upset because she
(40:39):
said she doesn't she doesn't our senator, excuse me, she
doesn't want it cut for her people because that's how
they get a lot of information. In fact, they had
an earthquake over the past week, and they're saying they're
ripe for a tsunami out there, which seems crazy and
cold weather that they would get a tsunami, but they're
they're ripe for it, she says, in a lot of
my people, because it's so that through those public broadcasting
(41:03):
that's how they're getting their information and they kind of
afford so you r I PBS and whatnot. It's not
going to go a way for us because we are
we're in wealthier states, and the monies will come from
they'll hawk us another tote bag or something, do you
know what I mean. But we'll figure it out. They'll
make themselves whole because I think that they said it's
less than a third of what their budget is, so
they'll figure out a way to make to make up
(41:24):
their budget. Or we'll watch the Four Tops for the
thousandth time that and it gives you you donate. But
places like this, rural areas where people don't have a
lot of money, and you know, they were saying Kansas,
like any of the farm areas Nebraska, that's how they
get a lot of their you know, there's a tornado coming,
you know, and they give them their the weather information
(41:46):
or whatever. They kind of they kind of afford to
run it on their own. So it's it's I keep
seeing with this administration, which makes me sad. More of
the halves and half nots. There's more separation.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
But but uh, Alaska, she just signed on with him.
That's what I'm saying again, against her, her words, against
her better judgment or whatever she said, still agreed for
people to lose their snap and lose their man. She won't.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's why specific why he is going to go on back.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
That was a seven point oh uh earthquake that they
had bob down there.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
It's and why is it? Of course it's not going
to be climate change, but of course it's climate change.
It's too warm, so plates are shifting under the ground,
and you know all those big icebergs and all that
that jazz. But she had she stuck up for the
rest of the states and voted with us. She was
because remember we need advance to be the tie vote.
(42:55):
Things would have been a little bit different, but they're not.
Mitch McConnell voted against it. I believe Maine voted against
it or Murkowski voted no. She voted she opposed it,
and as Susan Collins and Maine, the three of them
opposed it. It's still getting passed. It's gone to Congress.
It was fifty one to forty eight. The the oh,
(43:17):
I can't remember where she was from. I want to
say she was more of a northern state. There was
one Democrat that actually ended up going to the hospital.
She wasn't feeling well, so she didn't get a chance
to vote. She still would have lost. You know, it
was still forty eight to so it would have been
forty nine to fifty one. But if somebody else had
come in, you know, you just had need one or
(43:37):
two more.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Baby again, we got if we got to get to
these primaries. You've got to understand there's a special election. Yes,
and we can change the dynamic on this, but that's
the message that we got to get pushed out now
and not wait till the last minute to do it.
(43:59):
You know. Bobby and with this whole f saying this
because I watched them ask him a question, he switched
over to Pam Bondy, who eluded the question. They are
all masters of not answering the questions because they don't
know how to answer. It's not that they don't know
how to answer questions, it's just that they don't know
the answers because they're so uninformed. But Pam Bondy who
tried to answer, and he was like, we're still talking
about this and movable when he isn't raised about something
(44:22):
that he know he is there to write on guilty.
He will not discuss it.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
He but he looks bad.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
You're right, and then the reporter had to become that
was a stupid question and you're horrible this and no player,
no player answer the question. But that is time. He
won by not answering questions.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It's because they stuck. I felt the same way about
I'm going to give something that's like, it's not exactly alike,
but it's similar. Joe Biden, in the end went out
not a laughing stock. But while his son was going
through all of the troubles that his son went through,
and his son was guilty of the gun in the taxes,
(44:59):
he he'd make restitution. He was the first one that
said that it was happening. He came forward. Okay, So
had Joe not said one thousand and five times that
he would not, under no circumstances he would ever pardon him,
he wouldn't have looked. He could have just he He's
got a whole team behind him that could have worded
it differently. My plan is to have a go through
(45:20):
the court system the way it should. But he knew
he had a crazy pants administration retribution. That's those are words.
Their words, not yours, flame or my or black effects
or iHeart. President Trump said he was coming in. This
was his retribution term. Had he not said though he
(45:40):
would pardon, I don't think people would mind it as much. Okay,
so now we're going to flip it to Trump. Had
Trump not campaigned on being completely transparent about Epstein, and
then I think that Pam Bondy, this is Bobby guessing.
When she kept saying, Oh, I've got the client list
sitting right on my desk, I think she was over promising.
(46:03):
You know, it sounded sexy and important and people were
gonna not that you read it, and there was no
client list. I can believe there was no client list,
but she was she fibbed. So she fibbed that. So
now he's kind of flipping it towards this. He's not
going to be responsible.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Oh, Bobby, that's what we disagree.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I absolutely do you think there's a client list.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Absolutely, absolutely, believe you.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Think she's got it.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I don't know if she has it, but I believe
that Jeffree Epstein had a ACEH and a hole outside
of Gwlainne Maxwell. Somebody knows it. And my opinion, I
don't believe that he's dead. I don't believe he's dead
because I believe that if he was dead, then he
probably gave that, like if something happens to me, released
(46:46):
this and this is somebody nobody knows about. So you know,
I think that that whole one minute, one minute is
a lot of time when you're trying to get rid
of somebody.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
All you have to do is pull him out of
the room. You know, like in two seconds it could
be over.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
You can also somewhere because he held such a powerful list,
because of course he had a list, just like you
had to have on the airplane when you fly, you're
even on private Jed, you have to have that that
list of you know, he has a list of everybody
who has visited island. And when they show in the
(47:25):
tapes of him and a very young attractive Donald Trump
key keyan like two snickering little girls looking at very
young girls, that was that was that, Yeah, that is
that is monstrous. I do believe that there's a list,
and I do believe that Glai Max because if Glain Maxwell,
(47:45):
if he was dead, this is my opinion, they would
get rid of her.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
She's serving times. See, I think they would have scooped
her up. You're talking about the plane, the plane manifest.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, the manifest be the only person who held the
keys to the to the information. The reason he is
not gone because he ain't gone, because if he was
going for real, they could just get rid of her
and to be all done. But she also probably knows
exactly who has the other set of the list. Somebody
(48:19):
else has that list that they don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Chercherwitz has it. If anybody has it, you know, he would,
he says. I mean, he's very savvy. He says, well,
he doesn't have a list, yeah, because it's sitting in
your in your whatever. But he did make a comment.
He was also on Cuomo over the past week that
he could see President Trump not releasing the list if
(48:42):
there was a list, releasing any documents like that, because
there were a lot of people in there that didn't
do anything wrong, and you know, and people will look
at them differently. They just happened to go to lunch
because he kept it's his appointment book, I think is
what he was talking about. You know, he would go
and chat with or you know, entertained or whatever. But
it doesn't mean they were involved in.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
The I'm not talking about his appointment book list. I'm
talking about his list. Who been island, who was there
for more than two or three days, who was yeah,
with some things, with some strange things was happening.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I care about this as much as I care about Diddy.
You didn't you did? You did some crappy stuff. You're
getting hot.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
That's a very great point because even if the list
came out and Trump's name was at the top of
the list, does it make He's already his damn president
and would.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Have been They would have elected him anyway. He grabbed pussies.
I mean, you got a whole you got a whole career.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Going on this. Please please don't mention that. Okay, So
let's go to fan the flames since we're there to
close out the show, So fan the flame. I used
that saying that as a joke. I said, joke on stage,
Trump like the grab women back the coochies to say
that I want him to grab man, so he grabbed
my COUCHI y'all, no, I don't have one, which means
I scare him so bad that he would never grab
(49:59):
another one. Is Kouchie understand that I was going to
play in a club in Ohio this today actually, and
it didn't happen because they wouldn't share that that clip
of that that joke because they found it I guess offensive.
It's their words. Then they wanted me to do something
that I wasn't comfortable with. I am not an alternative comedian.
I am not a secondary comedian. I am not an
(50:22):
amateur comedian. I am a comedian. No asterisk, no footnote,
no apostrophies, no apologies.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
That is away with that. I've seen your set several
times and you don't There is nothing that's I'm just
gonna say. LGBT is nothing limits.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
For me to speak about. And but I will not
be pigeonholed and put into a box to make people
other people think that this is what the type of
what kind of comedian I am? I am just a comedian,
So I didn't give a chance to do it. So
it's a funny story. I'm like so y'all, y'all mad
at me because I repeated the words that your president
said about himself publicly and I said it back hold
(51:01):
the same way he said it. But y'all mad Carol
when I tell you, this comedy game is something else.
But I'm grateful to still be working. And I'm still
on the road. And guess what we are at seas
the fab of Laugh and Learn, Episode two. And I'm
still here with my co host Bobbie Clifford and my
producer Aaron Thank you for Black of Pect. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
iHeart absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
And on that note, ladies, ladies say, and we're gonna
thank you for joining us. We'll be back on Wednesday.
We were. It was the day yesterday, y'all. It was
a day I would say from hell. But ooh, I
don't really want to know what it's like. If what
we're living in ain't hell right now, I really don't
know how bad it really can get. And if we
don't vote right come these primaries, we will find out
(51:46):
what's living in hell on Earth is really going to be.
So y'all better make some right decisions, some better choices,
and some thinking with the color of people's skin and
think with the content of their character. In the words
of the late great doctor Martin Luther King caused, y'all
looked at other people's color, and you see the day
content down the land with yours.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
And there's all sorts of big changes come and everybody,
I mean Scotus this week voted to allow the Department
of Education to be kind of taken apart. So that's
fourteen hundred jobs. I'm still for four and a half
months and not employed JET and now I'm comparing I'm
competing with those jobs, and those are every color people
(52:28):
that hold those jobs or every color. I'm still trying
to see what's going to happen when my student loans.
Sweet Jesus, I'm terrified that my interest rate is going
to be like my city bank interest rate. But there
are real things that are affecting, and we have the
flames one hundred percent right. The midterms are everything, but
there still are all sorts of special elections that are
coming up as well. Look at your candidates, really vet them,
(52:50):
see who's going to best serve you. Don't just go
party line, but you know, if you want to go
party line, I'd like to see a little more Parody
and Washington and not all three chambers, you know, Congress,
House and Senate and the presidency. I'll be one party
because nothing gets done in this climate. There were other
(53:11):
times that it did get done over the years when Flame,
when I were young, you always had your people, Tip
O'Neil and Joe Mowgley, and but they did they worked
for what was best for their people. You know, I'd say, oh, Flame,
I know you don't want to vote on the spell,
but this is how it helps me in my community
(53:31):
like Alaska. These my people are they're going to lose
out there on the funding for the broadcasting and we
can't have that. And I don't really like your whatever
it is, but I'm going to vote because I know
that helps your people, Because it helps the people. We
don't have that right now. So and I hate to
say vote party line, but we need to shake things up.
So don't just wait for midterms. If you've got a
(53:52):
special election, and I think there were a dozen before
for retiring the bulliff past senators and congressmen, please get
out there and so don't let it go by. Some
people are like, eh, I'll wait for that. Don't wait.
Every single person like we just talked about that one
fifty one to forty nine. It would have been if
(54:14):
you can get two more people in, you know, or
three more people in, just give us a little bit
of give us a little bit of para.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
With somebody with a backbone, because that's what's happening no
matter what party represent they are so petrified of power
or losing their power that they don't know what to
do that they lose themselves and they lose their sanity.
I would like to see Pritsker or who do you want?
I like, what's our governor's saying? New some new some.
(54:42):
I would like to see Prisker knew them and Boodhaje
in these positions to run for president and vice president.
I think they have the chops. We're not gonna worry
about somebody's sexuality when they can do the job. Bootajet
can do the job. Bootaja is qualified to do the job,
and he has the balls to do it. And that's
no pun intending because he's with authority. He's not afraid
to power.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
They all do, they all speak.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yavin Newsom is definitely a beast and Prisker is damn
show the beasts So these are three powerful Democrats that
we need to be pushing now and picking apart, because
that's what y'all going to do anyway, to put them
back together so they can be our candidates. So we
will have an option when it comes down to the primaries.
Because right now, if the primaries was tomorrow, who y'all
(55:25):
going with? We ain't got nobody. We got to do
it now. We can't wait till the last minute, which
is what the Democratic body does. Anyway. I want to
thank you guys for joining us here on Laughing Line
this week. We appreciate you. Please send our comments, questions, topics, subjects, whatever,
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(55:46):
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You at Bobby Well the Laugh and Learn Podcast. Just
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I don't know if everybody. Sorry for the listeners, but
we're doing a new segment Fan the Flame, where where
you if you dial into us and send us a
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(56:14):
We didn't have one this week, but I'd love to
have something for next week, and then my personal stuff
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Speaker 3 (56:27):
And here at Lachlan. As always, the model has been
the same and will remain the same until you understand
that it is about you and not about us here
at Laftelin. We are not trying to get you to
change your mind. We are only trying to get you
to use your mind.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Because why Bobby, Because your mind and your vote are
terrible thing to weigh. So we got to get those
ninety million off their asses into the into the booths.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Oh when he cut that snap their damn sugar walk.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
The ass, because if they have that, they should know somebody.
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:06):
Think you want to revisit so your first second listen,
young folks say it's list Oh, folks say we think
it good?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
Can't no kiss you what I do?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
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Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian's Flame on Roe and welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to episode two of season five is Left and Learned.
I'm here with my gorgeous co host.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I had tuts. How's it going? You're out on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I see I am on the road, Bobby. I'm trying
to work. Listen, it's lifetime, but we're gonna get to
that part. But I'm in Chicago. I'm still on the
funny and Feelers too with Tiffany Hattis. I will be
in Columbus, Ohio tomorrow which is Friday, and Lawrenceburg, Indiana
on Saturday. So yeah, get your tickets at Tiffany Haddies
dot com. Out outside of that, Bobby, look, girl, I
(02:18):
don't want to talk about my week. I want to
talk about this week. Good God, Jesus, what is going
on in your country? Bobby? I just renewed my passport.
I got in both my names, the he, the she,
the we, the damn. I got to get up out
of here. I don't know what is happening, Bobby in
our country? What are you all doing over there on
that side?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I don't know, there is There's so many things that
are that are happening. I mean crazy things like you know,
Trump is going to try to revoke Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship,
which you can't do from somebody that was born here
in this country. Only treason if she did something that
was treason us. You know, just like crazy stuff from
(03:00):
that end, and it just swings. The pendulum has been swinging.
I don't know where we're going from here. I mean,
he this administration is really going to have us in
a mess. If things keep going the way that they are,
it's nuts. So, yeah, I don't even have a passport.
(03:21):
I should get what I let mine laps a million
years ago because I wasn't doing any international travel. But
they said it's good now just for to have as
an ID, So maybe I'll have.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Do you think that you're gonna get picked up as
the immigrant? Bobby? I just don't see that.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I also don't you know, Ponomy says, who the hell's
going to take us? It's not like I can go
to Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
You said the the Trump Trump is losing it right
in front of their eyes, in front of the whole
world's eyes. He appointed someone to a cabinet position, and
then well who appointed him? How did he get the position?
He is losing it right in their eyes, Bobby, and
they are discarding it. Trump is allegedly from Flame Unroe's
(04:08):
version Ronald Reagan two point zero. He just quoted this today,
one of his positions that he appointed one of the
people that he appointed a position of power. He's like, well,
who appointed him? How do you get here? He didn't remember, Bobby.
It's all over the news right now.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, they you know, you've got Powell, who you know
is holding fast Gerard Powell to a Jerome Powell, excuse me,
to our interest rates. And he's furious with it. He
got the GOP altogether kind of took a poll about
getting rid of him, and he's blaming Biden for putting
(04:44):
him in. He put him in the first term. Biden
reappointed him, but he put him in the first term.
But like hot off the press, and I actually mean
this seriously that I'm not even joking about this hought
off the press is that people have been noticing all
week about he's got the swollen ankles and he's looks
like he's got makeup on his hands, and and it
(05:06):
turns out he does. He has a condition. I'm sure
the makeup is because he was bruising, you know, having
lots of blood and stuff taken and as you get older,
you know, you do bruise very easily. And he's got
a vascular condition where the blood does not pump from
the legs up to the heart. But you know, my
mom has has a vascular condition and they had a
(05:27):
tester for vascular dementia because if the blood isn't pumping
from the feet to the heart. Isn't pumping from the
heart up to the brain. He might have.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, let's just let's just be very honest. That ain't
happening quite some time with that one anyway. Yeah, but
you see, But the hypocrisy of lives because according to
his doctor, according to his doctor, not even a year ago,
he was the epitome of health. While they were saying
that Biden already knew that he had cancer and woo woo.
(05:56):
But because this with this vascular I'm sorry that this
is the situation for Trump. But if this didn't happen overnight,
this is an ongoing process. But his doctor said, not
even a year ago, that he was the healthiest president.
His words, I'm the healthiest they've ever seen any president.
I'm healthy anything.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
He's saying it now, he's saying it now. I think
the only reason that he came forward because Wayne, he
doesn't give us. So the one thing that Joe Biden did,
God bless and Obama, everybody everybody but him. I think
it's they said it started around the time of Nixon.
Nobody probably looked for it before that was that every
year they are very transparent and they come forward with
(06:36):
their physical you know what the results of the physical were.
So you know, we knew there were little piccadellos with Joe,
you know, a little little you know, he was having
mobility issues. We knew like like almost like a vertigo.
So he was having pete every day so that he
wasn't so stiff. You know, the stiff is because something's
going on in there. But he came right out and
he told us about it. Trump has not I think
(06:58):
in twenty sixteen. I believe it was CNN that was
stating and this was this was while he was running,
not now, they had said that he other than twenty
sixteen to get in because he wasn't railing against everything.
Then he gave his That was the last time he
(07:19):
gave his physical. Since then, he has never given any
physicals and any physical results, including while he was running
this time. So we don't know. I do believe that
chronic venus insufficiency is something not for everybody, but I
think it's something that's fairly common as you age. You know,
his little his little publicist was coming out. You know,
(07:41):
he doesn't have a hard issue. He doesn't have this issue,
you know, but that could and maybe maybe not. I'm
not a doctor, but I would think if you're not
pumping full blood, those are things that could be around
the corner. You know, it starts with the feet, then
it'll be the hands, then it'll be what you know,
and again he could be the mind. So he might
be having little blocks, is what I'm saying, because you know,
(08:03):
everything is company. He's not getting full oxygen or something.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Sleepy Joe, my sleepy Joe. I'll take sleepy Joe over
demy Donald any day of the week.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, but this is this is just just a difference,
you know. I just Donald Trump is not a kind, compassionate,
decent person overall. You know, Joe has made some missteps,
but he is a decent absolutely absolutely that that's my point.
(08:36):
But he is a decent, compassionate person. So you know,
they're kinda they're kind of, you know, two of the same.
I mean, but Joe was hitting back because and claims
with Trump that he was mentally compromised. He's probably like, Okay, uh, Donald,
you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Hurting by to see how everyone is falling in line,
even some of these major corporations. Because he has sued
a few networks and one and one you know, and
his power is moving even further because I beloved Stephen Colbert,
who has had the Late Nanks Show for more than
ten years, who stands up against the machine. All of
(09:20):
a sudden his show is being yanked.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
From CBA May and twenty six. That's the first time,
I don't know, I mean, David Letiman must be turning over.
That's the first time I think in quite a while
they haven't had a night show, if ever, I think,
and they're saying it has nothing to do with anything
that was said. And I will say Stephen Comb here
is very honest and open, and I think he doesn't
(09:45):
give a ratsay around what he says, because he did
come across they just because of that sixty minutes interview
where Trump felt it was unfair ensued and they settled
for sixteen million. I was shocked by that, and so
were a lot of really Harry reason like a whole
lot of you know, the old UH news characters that
(10:08):
were on it and journalists were on it were either
rolling in their graves or up in arms. But he
did make he did make a few comments. I'm trying
to see if I can I know I had Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Well, the while you're looking for those comments, let me
say they were up in arms because protection.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, no protection for.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Them, because now you're taking this away. And what has
happened has he has put people in positions of power,
especially with their doge that can stop FCC licenses and
stop all kinds of licenses that come through the networks.
So he was it was a trickle down the fact
he he infiltrated their money so they would do it
(10:46):
that he wanted them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
To do, which is not the right thing that if
that doesn't smack authoritarian, I mean controlling the press. So
Colbert had said, I don't know if it was the
night before last had said when the uh he was
speaking about directly to the sixteen million, and he said,
(11:09):
as somebody who's always been proud of this network, he said,
I'm offended, and I don't know if everything will would
repair my trust to this company. And then he made
a joke and said, well, I'd say maybe sixteen million
would help. And so that is that is his employer
directly to his employer. So this might be Trump based,
but I think Steven's response to it might might have
(11:30):
a little a little something something to do with it.
To booze.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Wow, that is that's sad to see that because if
we erase all the voices of it, not even just truth,
but if at least fairness and reason, who do we
have to listen to but people who support everything that
comes out of this man's mouth when he don't even
remember what he see it five minutes ago. Girl, we
had trouble, good God, we had trouble.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Or what he's what he's done. I mean, he's furious
over that. So we were just talking about the interest
rates and he's furious with the chairman, Jerome Powell. But
he he pulled everybody and then I think he got
somebody leaked it somehow. It was leaked that they you know,
they would cuss shock or shocker. They bet they were
(12:18):
backing him. But the markets took u were up in arms,
took a turn, they took a nose, died the next
day because of the thought of removing the chair. So
then all of a sudden, I think he realized that
if he removed removed him doesn't mean that the interest
rates are going to go down either. You know, the
market's too volatile right now with the tariffs and everything else.
(12:39):
That's kind of going on. So I don't know, but
he did make a comment in a couple of interviews
of uh about fraud. You know, well, if we do
find him for fraud, some something about rebuilding. I don't know,
I don't I don't know how. I mean, God bless
(13:00):
Jerome Powell. I'd be resigning and just saying, you know what,
but that's what everybody's doing. All the good people that
that stick up end up resigning. And then I'm so
nervous when Trump is gone what we're going to be
left with. Although I'll tell you I mean and tell
and please tell me if I'm wrong. There are a
(13:22):
lot of people pissed about the Epstein saying a lot
more than I thought was going to happen. Taylors upset.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Can I ask you a personal question? Are you in
one of those fine tapes? Are you on that list? Bobby?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Now? I would I probably would would drop dead if
I saw or anything. And this is going to sound
even more callous, and I really don't mean it to.
I could give a rats rear end about any of that.
I don't understand. You know, if if people because I
supposedly dir sort, I'm probably saying his name wrong. He's
(13:59):
the the Hiard based attorney. He's saying that he never had.
Blackmail is not his thing. So he said, there really
is no client file. It was here, you know, there's
nothing written like you know, the Little Black Book or whatever.
That's what he's saying. He went down a few things.
He said, you know, they're looking for something. He said,
BONDI promised something that she never had, which that's what
(14:22):
I think the trouble is. I think that Trump unfortunately
ran on it. He really was more about the RFK, MLK, JFK.
He was going to release all that stuff more. But
and Epstein kind of got in because I did see him.
They've been throwing old interviews into the mix over the
(14:43):
past week, and he kind of was like, well, Epstein
will see. In fact, right off, just before we started speaking,
he's telling them to do grand jury. Told Bondie, you
can release the grand jury. That's not what everybody's looking for.
They're looking for that missing minute on the tape, you know,
of the when he hung himself, and they're looking for
other more juicy stuff, salacious stuff. I don't think that
(15:05):
the grand jury documentation is gonna I don't think that's
going to satisfy them. But it is amazing to see
how many people are furious over it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I'm with you, Bobby about that. I don't give a
damn about who's on there either. I do. I do, however,
care about your pushing the narrative about you don't like
this type of community or that type of ideology. But
are you a pedophile? Because nothing will that will never
stay well with my spirit to think that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You sleep with No, no, no, no, that's what God.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
What I think people want to know. I think that
is more so than anything else I want to I
think they want to see who are who are these
people that we are allowing to lead us or possibly
be in position of power, And they are damned pedophiles openly.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, unfortunately, And that's what I agree, And
I think that that's what got them. It is the
But he's blaming everybody Trump, it's Obama's. I mean, he
did get a deal. I think it was two thousand
and eight or two thousand and nine, but it wasn't dry.
(16:12):
I'm sure President Obama had nothing to do with the
deal that was between whatever judge was sitting at the time,
and and obviously it didn't. It didn't last too well anyway.
But what I was sort of surprised with is that
he seems a little edgy. He's been in a couple
of uh, you know, news media frenzy people, and when
(16:36):
they're coming up to him and he's and he's speaking
either on the cough or or press conferences, and now
he is furious with his own people. He's blaming us
that they're letting the Democrats do the work for us.
He goes and I don't want I don't want them
as followers or or supporters anymore. Anyway. He's speaking about
his own base, the people that want to see it.
(16:57):
And I think I know he's you know, he can
get very tender if you're railing against him, But I
don't know how smart that is. I mean, he's not
running again, so I guess it's supposedly, so I guess
it's okay. But I don't think you call he's calling
them stupid. You know, that's the quot he made for
(17:20):
anybody that's not the first following along nothing said.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know what I do want to do the Bobby,
I do want to acknowledge first Lady Malanya Trump and
I'm calling her first lady this week because, uh, when
they went to visit the floods in Texas, the tragedy
in Texas, she spoke and now you know, her English
is a little broken, but I felt like she had
some compassion in her voice about what really happened to
(17:51):
the people down there. I'm sure she don't know much
much ado about any of it anyway, but I thought
she spoke with the compassion. It gave me respect differently.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Tough to see, though I'm agreeing with you, she's far
more where. I don't think he has the compassion gene
or you know, some people have it and some people don't.
I do because she came out against him with abortion.
She came out, you know, with women's rights and women
being able to have their body and be able to
have full control over her their own body. She said,
(18:21):
I would agree with my husband, and I went, WHOA,
And that's compassion knowing that other people can be in
other circumstances. They could be raped, they could be losing
a baby, they could be whatever, and that you know,
they deserve to get the care that they needed. I've
seen her do a few little things like that. I
was shocked. First of all, I was shocked because she
bleached her hand blonde. I don't know who the hell
(18:41):
she was. It looks nice on her, but you know,
she's got a medium brown hair. She must be getting
a little more white or something. And so they're they're
picking it up with the blonde.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You know. You know, my favorite crips to see her
do when they show her slapping his hand away when
he tried to grab her hands, and he said, show
her her slapping his hand where they don't touch me.
I think that is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, well, I mean they they certainly have their They
certainly have their uh, their back and forth, which is
kind of fun to watch. Strangely, he paused money, they
were coming out with an app for weather. This is
Trump and his administration. They weren't coming out they stopped it.
They were coming out for an app for warnings, for
(19:23):
pre warnings like the floods and the this and the that,
taking into a fact or into account, excuse me, climate
change and whatnot, so people could plan so you could say, Okay,
for my vacation, I'm not going to go to the
Guadalupe River, you know, during July, because this is when
it's apt whatever. It also would warn people. I think
(19:43):
it would be good for probably farmers or anybody you
know that needs to know what the weather is. And
he paused all monies that were that were being allocated
to that, along with a lot of other moneies which
we can talk about in a second, but he he
paused that, and I thought, really, to me, this wasn't
the smartest time to posit, Like he's sort of changing
(20:07):
his mind a little on FEMA. He's seeing what they're
doing and he's he's not talking about, you know, you know,
taking them away completely.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well. To be to be fair, what was that Kerr County,
Fair County, They Yeah, they had people in positions of
power down there politically who was publicly saying, Joe Biden,
we don't want money from you, we don't want to
get in bed with you. So they but they will
only succeed to it. And that's the problem when you
elect people, when you vote for them, they need to
(20:36):
speak for you, not just not speak up for you,
but speak the way you speak. Because now those people
down there are suffering that they needed that money, they
needed that assistance, but they had these people who want
Joe Biden we don't want the democratic this democratic that
I wish we would get rid of all party systems
and just have one party that we all just had
to live up under as a judicial system because we.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Are too or multiple, you know, have a little bit
of more. It doesn't have to be even you know,
we do have the independent, but that kind of lets
you go each way. But it's funny. People have to
they have to pay attention. So you're right. A lot
of the Southern states turn on their nose up to us.
We're supporting them. They don't look enough to see where
(21:19):
the blue states are funding the red states. You don't
want my money. You wouldn't have a road on the
you know that will be left without a pothole. You're
getting our money. You're just not savvy enough. Who used
to be very transparent with that, And I'm sorry, I
still love them. Andrew Cuomo during COVID, he would come
(21:42):
and explain because a lot of them didn't want the
testing and they didn't want this because the moneies were
coming from democratic states, and they're like, but he went
through it. This is where we support you already. Always
the most poverty stricken states, they're the ones that turn
their noses up, their most and we're supplying them with
the cash. You know, we're coastal elite until you know,
(22:06):
you need whatever it is that you need from us.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Racism was quite expensive this election. Uh oh, quite right,
that's the title order episode. Racism was quite expensive this election. Yeah, Bobby,
they did that. They smell there and I and I
and that's what I'm saying. You, one person speaking for
a whole county, the county that voted for this, one
person should have made sure. But Bobby, here's the thing,
(22:31):
here's the killing part about these these Republicans that are
afraid of Trump and the Trumpetins that support what he
believes in. They they are selfish people, very selfish people.
They do not care about the people who put them
in their position's powers, or they don't act like they do.
Let me say that, or they're too afraid to stand
(22:53):
up against it, say hey no, because if you put
your foot down, he goes. He goes apprentice your fire,
you fire, you fire, And they have given him this
power to just fire anybody. I think he gets off
on it personally, but I do I believe.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Probably, But just just to be clear, also to remind people,
because a lot of people believed that that whole Apprentice
show was real. It was all staged people, It was
not real.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I wish we could say that about it, I said
about our country right now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That is not No, it's it's not it's you know,
it's it's a it's a little scary, but yeah, I
mean I I was happy to see that a whole
bunch of the National Guard went home in your neck
of the woods. Finally there's still some people, marines and
stuff that are still there. But you know, they're pulling
some of that back. But people, you have to pay
attention when one of your leaders is saying, we don't
(23:45):
want your money. You're getting it anyway. Why wouldn't you
put something into the safety for your kids, your elderly
you're It makes no sense. Make that money that you're
taking anyway work for you. I don't know. I think
I think that, and I've been saying there's two things.
I think that we need a whole lot, hell a
hell of a lot more in our public schools. I
(24:07):
think that we need, especially when they get to the
high school level, we'll say more. They need to know.
It used to be homemack when we were kids. I
know you just turned fifty this week. We can talk
about that, and I'm really sorry. I'm going to be
there in a couple of months. But they used to
call it home mac and but now I want more
financial independence given there. Teach them how to save, Teach
(24:30):
them what compound interest is, How to balance a checkbook,
whether you actually have a physical checkbook like I do,
or you know, the kids just do it on whatever,
a spreadsheet. Show them all that. Show them how to
be accountable for your money. I think a tt Jan
one of your listeners, and she says, run run your
life like a fortune five hundred company. And that's what
kids desperately need to know that. I also think, I
(24:53):
know we have civics. I mean again, that's an old course.
We learned history in school, and you learned ancient history
and world's history. But we need more politics, basic at
the very basic level. Why it's important to vote. You
know who votes. Go back to the branches. Drive home
that they're all supposed to be equal. It's not the
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president up here. Because a lot of kids think the
president rules the world. They don't. We didn't want a
king our forefathers. We have the judicial branch. You know,
when we have Congress, we wanted to spread it out
so it was equal. We need to start driving more
of that stuff because people have to start paying attention.
Wet your whistles so that when the news is on,
you don't tune out. When that stuff comes on, you
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actually understand what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
The politics has to be taught by me with a
little joy fun. You know, it's always so scary, it's
always so serious, and you know, we live in a
heavy world right now. The world, the climate of the
world is a heavy syrup, a blanket of syrup and sorrow.
So when you have the teacher like we fund and
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it's got to be I don't know, it's got to
be easier to intake because it's so heavy that people
shy away from it. That's why they shy away from it,
you know politics. I didn't get serious about politics until Bill.
I make the joke about Bill Clinton's second term, which
is true. You know something about a blue dress and
you know some stains on the dress. You know, you know,
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you know the whole ass. But if had I learned
it in high school from from a teacher that made
it fun, that's why.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
You know we were in high school in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Well, he putting all these cuts into a PBS Schoolhouse Rock.
Schoolhouse Rock was what taught me. The preamble Schoolhouse Rock
on thirty four is singing, we the people in order to.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Form a union that Islam.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So these kids who are still learning the constitution, they
need those outlets because had I had to sit down
to just learned that, it would have been boring and
it would have been took forever. But to be able
to have a jingle to it, a song to it
to made it that made it fun and be able
to watch the cartoon character do it. I was like,
it was easier to receive and to learn. That is
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what is missing by everything is so heavy and serious
that if we took it in not with the grain
of salt, but with a little more joy, it might stick.
It really might stick. Do you see how we still
remember to say that dingle and that was you were
babysitting me at the time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I also were a conjunction junction. Yeah, exactly all that,
but that is how you learn, and it does make
it easy.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
They're cutting those he's cutting all of those programs.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's part of his decisions and so when so they're
cutting down everybody, they're cutting snap they are they are
cutting aid to U S A I D, which we
already know and just to throw it out there, you
probably have heard it. It disgusts me. We have five
metric tons of these biscuits that that is in God.
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I want to say Dubai, but I could be wrong.
In fact last week I was wrong. I want to
speak against that Liberia. We did not colonize them. They
were colonized not by yes, but they are English speaking.
I'm going back a lot of years to my history,
so always fact check me. But we have these biscuits
that are sitting that we give to overseas, all sorts
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of I think some go to India, a lot of
them go to Africa, and if they have two biscuits
a day, then that's enough to stave off starvation. And
because we USA I D was ravaged, we don't we
have the biscuits. We have no one on the other
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side flame to make sure they're dispersed to the people.
So what are they going to do? What they are
going to burn them, which is they have the data
one million children will die of starvation over this next
year because they're not getting those biscuits every day. So
instead of he's got this Recision Act, which by the way,
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is zero point ten of one percent of our whole budget.
It's a joke. How about not cut it. Get the
biscuits out, go out. You're not going to be a hero,
but send all the monies out that we're supposed to
that have already been allocated and they're in somebody else's budget.
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Send these this food out so these kids they know
they're going to eat for this year and maybe the
countries will have to figure it out another year, you
know who. I almost felt like, I'm sure she's hearing
about it, although I don't know if she's got the finance.
But McCain's Cindy McCain. She is still big into that,
you know, of feeding the world. So I'm hoping to
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God that and she is a good Republican. I am
hoping to God that she and her organizations that she
works with are trying to figure some way to get
those biscuits over the next few days before they and
I don't think a kid cares that they expire. You know,
we have sell by dates on food. It doesn't mean
they're actually going bad. It means you can't sell them anymore,
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you know. So I hope she can somehow figure out
over the next week or two how to get those
biscuits to the kids. And and it sickens me. And
by the way, it's going to cost us one hundred
thousand dollars to burn them. It's costing us money to
get rid of them.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Bobbie Clipper, I believe what. First of all, I hope
that they don't do that either, they get that money,
that food to those kids, especially when to be a
hungry kid, I know what that is. I know what
that is. But to be an important thera world country
like that and really be hungry that that has to
be barbaric. Pat you know what did you miss?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
That? It's mean. It's making me and I'm so sorry
to interrupt you, because humanity, that's theory. It's you this
mean or this. I don't know how how bad I think.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't think that he remembers. I don't even think
that he makes all of these decisions. And you put
up a very valid and you brought up a very
valid point. All of these bills that here signing and
trying to get passed. Bobby Clifford told us, informed us
last week, and I think that we have to embark
on this more and more and more. None of these
will happen until after the midterms. What we have to
do is show up at that mid term like a maniac,
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like they're giving away free everything, because this is what
we got to do to shut down anything that he
has signed. Because a lot of people don't know that Bobby,
we really have to start getting that message out that
a lot of these laws that he has signed to
go into effect will not happen until after the mid terms.
If we cancel him out on the midterms, it's all
going away. So that is what we really have to
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get on get on board, get with we. Of course
we're gonna have differences and we're gonna see things differently,
but if we want to save our world, we better
see the same picture at.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
The same time and pay attention. And the other people
that I'm hoping have their eyes wide open are the farmers,
because he is screwing them over. He told them he
was going to give him this, he was going to
give him that. We just talked about these They're they're
getting rid of the app that's going to tell about
the weather. He said that he was going to put
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the onus. I don't know how this helps the farmers,
but the ponness on the farmers as far as migrants,
and now Nome comes out this weekend says, oh no,
they have to leave. We can let them leave and
come back. These people aren't going to leave and come back.
So we're talking about burning biscuits over in another country
when our food's going to be rotting on the vine
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because it's going to be absolutely nobody to pick up
that food. In the hospitality and the I mean, so
I am summering on Cape Cod and the Cape is
notorious like the Hamptons that it's very I mean, there's
tons of people live here now. At one time they didn't.
It really was a summer place. But you don't you
go to a restaurant, you're waiting, you know, there are
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nots of people that are out there. The staff, because
we used to have when when we first got the
house in the nineties, Ireland was the big the big
country that everybody came. They'd come for the summer and
they'd be the maids for the motels and hotels. And
you know, everybody that waited on you had the Irish brogue.
It was cute. And then it's gone through just like
everywhere else in the world, it's gone through different iterations
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of different countries. Coming this year, there there's nobody here.
You know, you're and there's nobody here, doubt because of this.
There aren't a lot of people that are down here.
You know, usually it is gridlock to get out and
it's it's nice, but I also like my community to
be able to get those monies. We count on tourist
money as well. But uh, you know, for he promised,
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he told us he was taking everything away. And then
somebody in his base, something that was powerful, must to
come to him and said, what are we going to
do about the farmers, because this is we're not gonna
have food. You're not gonna you know, the berries you
eat every morning. You're not going to have the cheese
for your big mac.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
You know is really might.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
But and that's probably why his ncles have swollen. But
you're not going to have that. You're not going to
have you know, whatever the lettuce is. And so then
all of a sudden he was turning over the past
few weeks and kind of, you know, he pivots, he
doesn't want to say he was wrong to begin with,
but then he says, well, but we're not going to
do it for the farmers and and uh service service
jobs like hotels, and because he's got them, and now
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all of a sudden, his henchmen are now saying it's
totally different. So it will kill me to sit and
watch food. You know, not only are we not going
to have it, you know, and it's going to cost
us a fortune, but to see it just rotting and
nobody actually getting to benefit from it. And these the
farmers will the wonder because they count on those crops.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
The farmers voted for Trump in an abundant, in an
abundant way.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Definitely, I'm hoping they pay attention.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
And and I am so sorry that some of them
are losing their generations of farms. But you knew who
he was because he told you who he was, he
told you what he was gonna do, and you'd seen
him in action before you needed to make a conscious
decision going another way. Not that I think that would
have made any any difference right now, because I damn
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show believed I personally believed that there was some shit
in the game, is what we would say in the
black community with those machines. I don't believe that it
was all completely legit, but that is just my belief.
We're waiting for the proof to come out in the pudding.
He's almost admitted it two or three times anyway, So
I'm just saying what he has damned near said. But
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I don't know if that would have made a difference.
Boy me, but I'm like, some of them really thought,
I'm like, and some of them knew that their whole
system ran off of these foreign workers, these so called immigrants.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
He said something different, though, we remember flameing. What he
told us was that he was going after the criminals.
I watched, Oh god, he's the borders are he said, Holamo.
It's because I know somebody with that. Last night I
always do his name. Oh my god, I'm I'm having
a brain cramp. I saw him last night on Quo Quo. Oh,
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and he was like, oh no, I've been looking at
the numbers and everybody they're all criminals. These people aren't
criminals that come over. There are some criminals, of course
they are. They're bad in anything, but not the majority
of the people that are coming over, they're telling you,
thank you, Homan. I always want Hallamo. I'm always calling
him that, which is stupid. You know. They're trying to
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twist what they're saying. I mean, please, I think everybody.
I don't know if there was one American, even the
bleeding heart liberal American, that wouldn't say, yeah, get the
criminals out of here, get the pedophiles, the trial rapists,
the rapists in general, the murderers, the drug dealer is absolutely,
get them up. But that's not what I'm seeing that's
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going out.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
And then he gets into the crazy talk that he's
going to send American citizens out. He doesn't care, you can't.
And the whole alligator in Alcatraz, the they we've got
a first tour of that over the past week and
people were shocked. They said, they have them. The The
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one of the reps from Florida said, it is they
are gemmed in there in cages and the food that
they're feeding is half of the quantity that they're feeding
the employees. It's not and it's hot, they said. The
supposedly the ac was on it was hot of the hell.
You know, you know in there, it's it's it's not
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the way that you treat people, you know, It's just
not the way. And why wouldn't we Why send them back?
I also feel like we have some sort of responsibility.
If they came to this country and they did something illegal,
the easy thing is to send them back to their country.
But did they get punished on that side, or did
they just go back into their own country. If they
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did something illegal, they should be punished here and be
in our jail, so at least we know they're off
the streets for whatever the time is, you know, and
not send them back to Mexico where they could rape, murder, mayhem.
You know again, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
You said they wanted to stay away all the rapists
and the pedophiles. They would have had to start in
Washington first, right, Bobby. That is I've watched how they
talk about the conditions, and that alligated Alcatraz. They said
the food they only feed them one time a day.
They said the food was full of allegedly was full
of maggots.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Maggots here I read that show.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
And there was no privacy for the men to go
to the restroom or shower and just just crazy. And
I'm like, well, who works there? Do you know you
said that about They figure they give them half of
what the staff gets, but the staff has to live
in those same conditions that those prisoners live in the
outside your facility.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh and walking around, I wouldn't if there were pythons
and everything else, I wouldn't want it either. And what
Holman said his response was, you know, and he is,
he has been in under Democrats and under Republicans, but
he said the conditions are better than what they are
in a prison. But these are people that, you know, okay,
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and the maggots. I'm even going to give them a
little credit because we have a mutual friend that lives
in Florida and I visited multiple times, and let me
tell you, I could fry an egg off my giant
Irish ass. Sometimes it's so hot down there, So it's
probably if they have that food stored, you know, in
some sort of canteen area somewhere for multiple hours, it's
they probably are maggots because it's bacon.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
It's like it's just so hot, Like you don't throw
trash down there. They have trash removed a couple of
times a week. I only have it once a week,
but it's because of the heat, because of maggots and stuff.
So it's not like they're giving them meggot food. It's
just that the food they get to get better, storage
they get get better, a better system put into place.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
You're so cute, You're so cute. Fair, They don't give
a damn that they give it means Bobby, they don't
care about those people. They treat them to me, in
my opinion, they treat those people like like the Constitution
has Black Americans, there's three fifths of a person.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, well I don't like that either. That makes me
sick to my stomach. But you know we have I mean,
they're they they're doing that recision. So we just talked
about the MPR is yet getting like all of the
funding for the public broadcasting, and and I saw to myself,
aren't you clever? Alaska's governor is all upset because she
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said she doesn't she doesn't our senator, excuse me, she
doesn't want it cut for her people because that's how
they get a lot of information. In fact, they had
an earthquake over the past week, and they're saying they're
ripe for a tsunami out there, which seems crazy and
cold weather that they would get a tsunami, but they're
they're ripe for it, she says, in a lot of
my people, because it's so that through those public broadcasting
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that's how they're getting their information and they kind of
afford so you r I PBS and whatnot. It's not
going to go a way for us because we are
we're in wealthier states, and the monies will come from
they'll hawk us another tote bag or something, do you
know what I mean. But we'll figure it out. They'll
make themselves whole because I think that they said it's
less than a third of what their budget is, so
they'll figure out a way to make to make up
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their budget. Or we'll watch the Four Tops for the
thousandth time that and it gives you you donate. But
places like this, rural areas where people don't have a
lot of money, and you know, they were saying Kansas,
like any of the farm areas Nebraska, that's how they
get a lot of their you know, there's a tornado coming,
you know, and they give them their the weather information
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or whatever. They kind of they kind of afford to
run it on their own. So it's it's I keep
seeing with this administration, which makes me sad. More of
the halves and half nots. There's more separation.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
But but uh, Alaska, she just signed on with him.
That's what I'm saying again, against her, her words, against
her better judgment or whatever she said, still agreed for
people to lose their snap and lose their man. She won't.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's why specific why he is going to go on back.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
That was a seven point oh uh earthquake that they
had bob down there.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
It's and why is it? Of course it's not going
to be climate change, but of course it's climate change.
It's too warm, so plates are shifting under the ground,
and you know all those big icebergs and all that
that jazz. But she had she stuck up for the
rest of the states and voted with us. She was
because remember we need advance to be the tie vote.
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Things would have been a little bit different, but they're not.
Mitch McConnell voted against it. I believe Maine voted against
it or Murkowski voted no. She voted she opposed it,
and as Susan Collins and Maine, the three of them
opposed it. It's still getting passed. It's gone to Congress.
It was fifty one to forty eight. The the oh,
(43:17):
I can't remember where she was from. I want to
say she was more of a northern state. There was
one Democrat that actually ended up going to the hospital.
She wasn't feeling well, so she didn't get a chance
to vote. She still would have lost. You know, it
was still forty eight to so it would have been
forty nine to fifty one. But if somebody else had
come in, you know, you just had need one or
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two more.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Baby again, we got if we got to get to
these primaries. You've got to understand there's a special election. Yes,
and we can change the dynamic on this, but that's
the message that we got to get pushed out now
and not wait till the last minute to do it.
(43:59):
You know. Bobby and with this whole f saying this
because I watched them ask him a question, he switched
over to Pam Bondy, who eluded the question. They are
all masters of not answering the questions because they don't
know how to answer. It's not that they don't know
how to answer questions, it's just that they don't know
the answers because they're so uninformed. But Pam Bondy who
tried to answer, and he was like, we're still talking
about this and movable when he isn't raised about something
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that he know he is there to write on guilty.
He will not discuss it.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
He but he looks bad.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
You're right, and then the reporter had to become that
was a stupid question and you're horrible this and no player,
no player answer the question. But that is time. He
won by not answering questions.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It's because they stuck. I felt the same way about
I'm going to give something that's like, it's not exactly alike,
but it's similar. Joe Biden, in the end went out
not a laughing stock. But while his son was going
through all of the troubles that his son went through,
and his son was guilty of the gun in the taxes,
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he he'd make restitution. He was the first one that
said that it was happening. He came forward. Okay, So
had Joe not said one thousand and five times that
he would not, under no circumstances he would ever pardon him,
he wouldn't have looked. He could have just he He's
got a whole team behind him that could have worded
it differently. My plan is to have a go through
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the court system the way it should. But he knew
he had a crazy pants administration retribution. That's those are words.
Their words, not yours, flame or my or black effects
or iHeart. President Trump said he was coming in. This
was his retribution term. Had he not said though he
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would pardon, I don't think people would mind it as much. Okay,
so now we're going to flip it to Trump. Had
Trump not campaigned on being completely transparent about Epstein, and
then I think that Pam Bondy, this is Bobby guessing.
When she kept saying, Oh, I've got the client list
sitting right on my desk, I think she was over promising.
(46:03):
You know, it sounded sexy and important and people were
gonna not that you read it, and there was no
client list. I can believe there was no client list,
but she was she fibbed. So she fibbed that. So
now he's kind of flipping it towards this. He's not
going to be responsible.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Oh, Bobby, that's what we disagree.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I absolutely do you think there's a client list.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Absolutely, absolutely, believe you.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Think she's got it.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I don't know if she has it, but I believe
that Jeffree Epstein had a ACEH and a hole outside
of Gwlainne Maxwell. Somebody knows it. And my opinion, I
don't believe that he's dead. I don't believe he's dead
because I believe that if he was dead, then he
probably gave that, like if something happens to me, released
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this and this is somebody nobody knows about. So you know,
I think that that whole one minute, one minute is
a lot of time when you're trying to get rid
of somebody.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
All you have to do is pull him out of
the room. You know, like in two seconds it could
be over.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
You can also somewhere because he held such a powerful list,
because of course he had a list, just like you
had to have on the airplane when you fly, you're
even on private Jed, you have to have that that
list of you know, he has a list of everybody
who has visited island. And when they show in the
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tapes of him and a very young attractive Donald Trump
key keyan like two snickering little girls looking at very
young girls, that was that was that, Yeah, that is
that is monstrous. I do believe that there's a list,
and I do believe that Glai Max because if Glain Maxwell,
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if he was dead, this is my opinion, they would
get rid of her.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
She's serving times. See, I think they would have scooped
her up. You're talking about the plane, the plane manifest.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, the manifest be the only person who held the
keys to the to the information. The reason he is
not gone because he ain't gone, because if he was
going for real, they could just get rid of her
and to be all done. But she also probably knows
exactly who has the other set of the list. Somebody
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else has that list that they don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Chercherwitz has it. If anybody has it, you know, he would,
he says. I mean, he's very savvy. He says, well,
he doesn't have a list, yeah, because it's sitting in
your in your whatever. But he did make a comment.
He was also on Cuomo over the past week that
he could see President Trump not releasing the list if
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there was a list, releasing any documents like that, because
there were a lot of people in there that didn't
do anything wrong, and you know, and people will look
at them differently. They just happened to go to lunch
because he kept it's his appointment book, I think is
what he was talking about. You know, he would go
and chat with or you know, entertained or whatever. But
it doesn't mean they were involved in.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
The I'm not talking about his appointment book list. I'm
talking about his list. Who been island, who was there
for more than two or three days, who was yeah,
with some things, with some strange things was happening.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I care about this as much as I care about Diddy.
You didn't you did? You did some crappy stuff. You're
getting hot.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
That's a very great point because even if the list
came out and Trump's name was at the top of
the list, does it make He's already his damn president
and would.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Have been They would have elected him anyway. He grabbed pussies.
I mean, you got a whole you got a whole career.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Going on this. Please please don't mention that. Okay, So
let's go to fan the flames since we're there to
close out the show, So fan the flame. I used
that saying that as a joke. I said, joke on stage,
Trump like the grab women back the coochies to say
that I want him to grab man, so he grabbed
my COUCHI y'all, no, I don't have one, which means
I scare him so bad that he would never grab
(49:59):
another one. Is Kouchie understand that I was going to
play in a club in Ohio this today actually, and
it didn't happen because they wouldn't share that that clip
of that that joke because they found it I guess offensive.
It's their words. Then they wanted me to do something
that I wasn't comfortable with. I am not an alternative comedian.
I am not a secondary comedian. I am not an
(50:22):
amateur comedian. I am a comedian. No asterisk, no footnote,
no apostrophies, no apologies.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
That is away with that. I've seen your set several
times and you don't There is nothing that's I'm just
gonna say. LGBT is nothing limits.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
For me to speak about. And but I will not
be pigeonholed and put into a box to make people
other people think that this is what the type of
what kind of comedian I am? I am just a comedian,
So I didn't give a chance to do it. So
it's a funny story. I'm like so y'all, y'all mad
at me because I repeated the words that your president
said about himself publicly and I said it back hold
(51:01):
the same way he said it. But y'all mad Carol
when I tell you, this comedy game is something else.
But I'm grateful to still be working. And I'm still
on the road. And guess what we are at seas
the fab of Laugh and Learn, Episode two. And I'm
still here with my co host Bobbie Clifford and my
producer Aaron Thank you for Black of Pect. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
iHeart absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
And on that note, ladies, ladies say, and we're gonna
thank you for joining us. We'll be back on Wednesday.
We were. It was the day yesterday, y'all. It was
a day I would say from hell. But ooh, I
don't really want to know what it's like. If what
we're living in ain't hell right now, I really don't
know how bad it really can get. And if we
don't vote right come these primaries, we will find out
(51:46):
what's living in hell on Earth is really going to be.
So y'all better make some right decisions, some better choices,
and some thinking with the color of people's skin and
think with the content of their character. In the words
of the late great doctor Martin Luther King caused, y'all
looked at other people's color, and you see the day
content down the land with yours.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
And there's all sorts of big changes come and everybody,
I mean Scotus this week voted to allow the Department
of Education to be kind of taken apart. So that's
fourteen hundred jobs. I'm still for four and a half
months and not employed JET and now I'm comparing I'm
competing with those jobs, and those are every color people
(52:28):
that hold those jobs or every color. I'm still trying
to see what's going to happen when my student loans.
Sweet Jesus, I'm terrified that my interest rate is going
to be like my city bank interest rate. But there
are real things that are affecting, and we have the
flames one hundred percent right. The midterms are everything, but
there still are all sorts of special elections that are
coming up as well. Look at your candidates, really vet them,
(52:50):
see who's going to best serve you. Don't just go
party line, but you know, if you want to go
party line, I'd like to see a little more Parody
and Washington and not all three chambers, you know, Congress,
House and Senate and the presidency. I'll be one party
because nothing gets done in this climate. There were other
(53:11):
times that it did get done over the years when Flame,
when I were young, you always had your people, Tip
O'Neil and Joe Mowgley, and but they did they worked
for what was best for their people. You know, I'd say, oh, Flame,
I know you don't want to vote on the spell,
but this is how it helps me in my community
(53:31):
like Alaska. These my people are they're going to lose
out there on the funding for the broadcasting and we
can't have that. And I don't really like your whatever
it is, but I'm going to vote because I know
that helps your people, Because it helps the people. We
don't have that right now. So and I hate to
say vote party line, but we need to shake things up.
So don't just wait for midterms. If you've got a
(53:52):
special election, and I think there were a dozen before
for retiring the bulliff past senators and congressmen, please get
out there and so don't let it go by. Some
people are like, eh, I'll wait for that. Don't wait.
Every single person like we just talked about that one
fifty one to forty nine. It would have been if
(54:14):
you can get two more people in, you know, or
three more people in, just give us a little bit
of give us a little bit of para.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
With somebody with a backbone, because that's what's happening no
matter what party represent they are so petrified of power
or losing their power that they don't know what to
do that they lose themselves and they lose their sanity.
I would like to see Pritsker or who do you want?
I like, what's our governor's saying? New some new some.
(54:42):
I would like to see Prisker knew them and Boodhaje
in these positions to run for president and vice president.
I think they have the chops. We're not gonna worry
about somebody's sexuality when they can do the job. Bootajet
can do the job. Bootaja is qualified to do the job,
and he has the balls to do it. And that's
no pun intending because he's with authority. He's not afraid
to power.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
They all do, they all speak.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yavin Newsom is definitely a beast and Prisker is damn
show the beasts So these are three powerful Democrats that
we need to be pushing now and picking apart, because
that's what y'all going to do anyway, to put them
back together so they can be our candidates. So we
will have an option when it comes down to the primaries.
Because right now, if the primaries was tomorrow, who y'all
(55:25):
going with? We ain't got nobody. We got to do
it now. We can't wait till the last minute, which
is what the Democratic body does. Anyway. I want to
thank you guys for joining us here on Laughing Line
this week. We appreciate you. Please send our comments, questions, topics, subjects, whatever,
have gripes to at Laugh and Learn podcast page. Bobby
Clifford would decipher them and get them out to you. Guys.
(55:46):
I'm on the road. Check my Facebook social media for two.
I'm still doing coffee time and you can follow me
on all social media platforms there and where can we catch.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
You at Bobby Well the Laugh and Learn Podcast. Just
to drive it home, I send something else this week.
I don't know if everybody. Sorry for the listeners, but
we're doing a new segment Fan the Flame, where where
you if you dial into us and send us a
question or something you want to discuss, we will speak
directly to you on the podcast, just like we are now.
(56:14):
We didn't have one this week, but I'd love to
have something for next week, and then my personal stuff
as Clifford Bobby on Instagram and Bobby Clifford on TikTok
and Facebook.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
And here at Lachlan. As always, the model has been
the same and will remain the same until you understand
that it is about you and not about us here
at Laftelin. We are not trying to get you to
change your mind. We are only trying to get you
to use your mind.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Because why Bobby, Because your mind and your vote are
terrible thing to weigh. So we got to get those
ninety million off their asses into the into the booths.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Oh when he cut that snap their damn sugar walk.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
The ass, because if they have that, they should know somebody.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Yes, thank you guys for joining us. We're you and
we will see you next week. Be blessed, be safe,
be cautious, be kind, be careful, be aware, but be patriotic. Deuces.
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