June 13, 2025 • 46 mins
In this episode of Laugh and Learn, Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford are joined by the always hilarious and insightful Kym Whitley for a candid conversation about career, motherhood, and the current state of politics. They reflect on the success of Kym’s podcast Two Funny Mamas, her experiences working alongside Adam Sandler, and the joys and challenges of raising a child as a single mother. The discussion also tackles the role of comedy in today’s political climate, the influence of celebrity in elections, and the impact of fear and distraction in public discourse and more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 5 (01:40):
This is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome to seasons for
final episode of laugh Alone. I am your host. Also
here with my lovely co hosts, the one and only Toots.
Hi you Bobby Cliffords.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How you doing with good company?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Today? We do have company.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
We're gonna get to hone a minute because today is
a very special day. Not only is our did our
last episode of season four and we dig it re
signed to season five. But today is my last baby's
graduation day. She's graduating from high school. And our special
guest has known my children since they were infants.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
So this is going to be way more than just
a conversation of friends.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
This woman has known us, partially, taking care of us,
looked out for us on so many numerous occasions. But
we've watched her stars and steel ras. I want you
to introduce a.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Very special guest, comedian, actress, host, podcaster, friend, new mother, Well,
I would say a new mother.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I think I inspired her to have a baby. Let
me just say that one and only missus.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Kim Wiley. Hey, Kim Whitley.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I'm trying to eat a snack.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I see you over there putting the nuts in your mouth,
and that's the story of your life.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Always get some nuts in your mouth. Always listen.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
We are so excited to have you, hear Kim, to
close out our season for it because we have guests
here and there, and we're gonna talk about you and
your life and your career. But we damn sure I
want to talk about because this is laugh and learn,
this is political hodgepodge, and we both live in California,
so we will touch on the situation that is happening
in our city and our state as of right down.
But first of all, we want to just say, hey,
(03:19):
Kim Widley, thank you for joining us here at Laugh
and Learn. Bobby a few questions you want to ask Kim.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
First, I had to get a snack my blood sugar drop.
I'm about to pass out.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Don't do that, Kim, don't do that. We can't.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
We can't come from and do CPR or anything either.
We're gonna have to just like send a positive vibes Bobby.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Bobby said, can't come through.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
See, I told you blame. You're used to my absent.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Bobby is from Boston and she is an Irish woman.
And don't worry, you're gonna hear some slang up in here. Kim,
withy you and you go. You might be able to
use it in your next role when you pass off
as an Irish woman. Listen, I want to say congratulations
to you on on what season is this for?
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Two funny mamas? Like four five?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, we started in the pandemic, so we've been rolling.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I remember you guys have won.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
That's to Kim, Willie and Sherry Shepherd's podcast it's called
Two Funny Mamas, is on YouTube and everything, and they
started there during the pandemic because people needed to relate
entertain and what the internet did for us as entertainers
was y'all thought that we were entertaining y'all, but y'all
were keeping us saying we needed somebody to talk to
while we were stuck at the house since we didn't
(04:32):
have audiences. Kim, what did you and Sherry know that
Two Funny Mamas would become exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
No, actually, I thought it'd be better. No, you know,
I was looking forward to it. I knew that we
both had personalities and sure it was really practicing dec
you can get a talk show, but it was fun,
you know, And we didn't know become such a place
(04:59):
for women and all kinds of people just to really
have fun and talk and you talk about everything.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
We gotta.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
We try to make it a structor structured podcast. It's
not structured. We've been trying for few years, but we
did not know. But we're happy at the outcome.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I think that's the beauty of the show, because y'all
do me all over the place. Y'all be especially you Cam.
Let me just be honest, You'll be all over the
damn place.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I do. I try to be professional.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
It's not a professional.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
It's entertaining because with Kim is the ground and you
just like the circle and you like she's like the
Indian and you're the cowboy just circling the wagons.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
So that is a great, you know, way to watch
the show.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
And it's so fun and it's so enlightening because so
many women talk about some of the things, the women
struggles that you guys talk about as a parent and
you know, women's issues and just what's happening in the
in the industry as far as being entertainers and comedians,
because you're both our comedians. I want to talk to you,
Kim about your new movie. You're rolling Adam Sandler's new movie,
(05:59):
Happy get More too.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Very excited about that. Happy gil More two comes out
in July, everybody, July twenty fifth on Netflix. And you know,
it's been twenty some years that Adam Sandler had made
Happy Gilmore big success, and now people have been waiting
and begging for him to make a Happy gel More too,
(06:24):
And here it.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Is twenty five. Who kill me? But you look great.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And let me just say this, because you know, when
I'm dressed up, I always wear red hair, I wear
my glasses, and I always wear red lifting. Somebody is
biting off of my look. I am not gonna say
her name, but she's on this podcast right now.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I've always wanted to be you.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Oh my god, girl, you don't want to be me.
And if you see this, make account, but I'll take it.
I damn show take it.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Listen. We inspire each other.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
So let me give you all some history of me
and Kim Willy Maybe so my daughter is just my
daughter just made eighteen, so maybe like seventh. Eighteen years ago,
Kim Willie had introduced me to WE television by doing
a reality show. I was all over the place, crazy
and love heartbroken, had just moved to California, and we.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Didn't get it off the ground. But then Kim ended
up having her own kid, little Joshua, who's eleven or
twelve now is Joshua.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Twent thirteen, fourteen fourteen wow. And she had a show
on on Call raising Whitley. So it was a synopsis
of what it's like and what it takes to raise
a kid. Kim adopted Joshua, but it's still her baby.
Hear me, when I tell you love it ain't got
to come out of you. When it's your kid, you
love it, it don't have to come out of you.
(07:44):
And we thought it was on for four seasons. It
was a great show, and I really believe, I want
to say I had a little bit of an inspiration
in that because Kim became a mother and she talked
about as a comedian and a working actress, but she
had a barrage, a village of people around her, because
it does take a village to raise a kid.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
And it was a great show. Kim.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I thought it was a fantastic show, and I think
it was very well needed at the time.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Well, thank you so much. I hope that we, you know,
with that show taught people how to build their village
and how to ask for help. It was great, Noshall
still all the villagers are still around, very instrumental in
Joshua's upbringing, his life, his love or his family. He
(08:27):
reaches out to them and he you know, needs certain
things or questions. So it's really been a great journey.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
So and then other things they're making a new Fridays,
Uh what's his name? Ice Cubes movie?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
You're going to be that goes you played him, You
played a character, You played an old thought in one
of the movies.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Are you going to be in the new one?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Toney? That's what it would be, too old thought. That's
just what i'd be right now.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah, you're not old. You look fantastic once you got
some of that Benjamin Buddons. You said you ain't told
nobody about it.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Okay, I'm going let y'all know my secret. But I
did talk to ice Cube and they are writing it,
so I was like, don't forget sugar. So I'm very excited.
Hopefully they will get that off the ground. So that's fun.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
It was, It was fun. Kim was an old auntie.
She was one of those aunties that like to touch
nephews I show.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, honey, Sugar was a mess.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
So, Kim, I want to ask you, because you are
from originally are you from You're from Ohio?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, from Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Okay, I knew it was in Ohio. I just didn't
know it was from Cleveland. How long have you been
in California?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
My god, I bet I like by you over thirty years?
Speaker 6 (09:36):
If you got the unfamiliar with Kim's comedy.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Kim has done so oh my god, so many different
platforms of comedy and movies. But to me, Kim, my
opinion your comedic actress. There timing when you're doing comedy
as an actress is bonkers. Now I've been watching Cam
do comedy for twenty years. When I first met Kim,
let me give y'all this. It was at a club
(09:59):
called the Haha Cafe, her and a guy named Buddy Lewis,
where the host by Lewis is still around. And so
I came into the club and they put me on stage.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Did you come in that club with body? YadA YadA,
yadda YADDI.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I still got it and behind this new body, though
this newbody is sagging, but I still got that other buddy.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
It just had.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
We just jailed after that moment. It was such a
great time. That was so many years ago. Buddy Lewis,
who was still friends with Kim Willy and myself to
this day, you know, it was just that was a
great experience. And I was introduced to Kim Willy through
a mutual friend of our. I was Fantasia Lamore. Fantation
introduced to Kim Willy you did.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yes, yes, Oh my god, please give her my love.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Absolutely absolutely. She always asked me about you.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And here's came on my show, Old Drama. I had
the talk show on BT, which I'm still wondering why
they didn't honor us at the BT Awards.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Don't worry, I was talking. Don't worry.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I'm the first trans person ever on b T Have
you ever seen me invited back? And they invited all
these other trans people back? Everybody would have dick and titties.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Hen go on there, Laverne Cox, Leslie Jones, all of them.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
He said, Leveslie Jones, Yeah, say Leveslie.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Jones said, Leslie Jones. Damn it, it was a joke.
This is laughing lart, Okay, Kim, I want to get
off of the career and then all of that and
what else? What else? Does?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Can I ask you?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Is Adam Sandler? You know because I'm from Boston. He's
right over the border in the Hampshire. He's probably thirty
minutes for me. Is he as wonderful to work with
as he seems?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Adam Sandler is absolutely a dream. He's absolutely wonderful. He's funny,
he's fun. He's real laid back, and he loves working
with comedians and he always calls you back. This is
my second Adam Simon movie. Been offered others, but they
keep me in the camp. I love it that family,
(12:01):
all the other comedians speaking across the water. Sherry and
I are going to be in the North to Shore
Festival on June twentieth in Newark at the Njpack, and
people can get their tickets. Of course, the ticket master.
I just want to make sure I sh shot that out.
It's two shows. One is sold out, but we have
to still have tickets for the nine to forty five
(12:22):
show at the NJ Pack, So I wanted to make
sure I mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Of course, that's good because too of your mama's are
on the road a lot. I see y'all been selling
out that it's fantastic. Kim. I want to ask you
about what else does Kim Willy wanted her career. Because
you've done movies, You've done acting, You've done a bunch
of hosting. What do you want because you know your
best girlfriend, Sherry Shepherd has the talk show, But what would.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
You like to be doing? Ultimately, Kim, I can see
you host of a game show and being hysterically funny.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But what do you want I do? I would love
to host a game show. I've always wanted a talk show,
you know, so I started that way. I like to
go back to it. But probably directing, producing, that's up acting,
But those would be the things. Probably drama do some drama,
(13:15):
as you could see Sherry did Straw Tyler Parents.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, I've been seeing all the positive reviews, and I
hear very few.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I hear the negative reviews, mostly from black men, about
how tallent periods only telling struggles of black women and
who single mothers. I'm like, well, they wouldn't be single
mothers if more fathers were present.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Let me just say that because I am.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I've been a single parent my children's entire life, struggling.
You came together, fighting, borrowing money, hustling whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Nobody and then not one mama came this way to
help you.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
You to one of the funny mamas, where both of
the funny mamas have helped me.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Well, your baby mama's that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, Well listen, and I had a choice, people always
say with I could have said here, take the kids
or put the kids into the state and chase my dream.
But I didn't want to be one of those parents
that didn't know their children. I wanted my children to
know me. I wanted to know their favorite food and
their favorite color. Sometimes do I regret it when I
look at my bank account? Sometimes I do. But the
(14:24):
joy of being a parent and now I'm getting my
last baby through high school.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Thank you Lord, I did that.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You did do that. Good job.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
So Ken, we live in California and you know what
we're under right now under this administration. Because our podcast
is definitely about politics. I know you're not close to
downtown because you're further away from another Americas. I'm in
Long Beach. But are you seeing all of this unfold?
And I'm sure you have Latin friends, Mexican friends and workers,
because you know, how is that affecting you?
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Just last night we were sitting in caroline raised backyard
and she lives over in Hancock Park. The amount of
helicopters that flew over our head, we were like, what's
going It was so loud and so long for you know,
it went on probably about an hour an hour and
a half, but we had to say what what we
had to join the news. There were protesters probably on
(15:17):
Western or by the mayor's house. But so that's, you know,
been a constant with that. Caroline said her movers were
moving her some some furniture she bought, and while they
were moving, the neighbor he he is on the phone
screaming to his neighbors had just gotten taken by ice.
(15:40):
So you didn't want to go back home. Just it's
getting closer and closer to us. And I do have
Latino friends and you know people that I know, and
you get concerned. But the bigger concern is how this
minish is trying to turn this into a civil war
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and cause chaos. Chaos will make us will be distracted
from what's really going on and the truth and the takeover.
And if this is just the beginning, we have three
more years, three and a half more years of this,
and so I can't imagine what it's going to look
like by Christmas or next year. The fear that he
(16:26):
is putting in the world, and how the administration is
even affecting when I say they've already one friend of
mine called me it was like they just took away
my insurance. I'm like, what, so I don't know if
he's trying to devastate the lower class, the middle class, whatever,
(16:47):
and just try to keep the billionaires where they are
and make everyone else suffer. I don't know what the
endgame is. To answer your question, it is.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I think he runs off of motion because he'll say
something and then a day or two later he'll retract
it or say I may. He won't never admit to
the mistake. He'll just point out the obvious when people
start talking about it. But for me, Kim, I feel
it because I have a lot of that Mexican friends
here too, because of working here.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
And I went to home. I'm in the process of moving,
so I went to home depot, not the home to
tell you haul yesterday to purchase some boxes. Any other
time when you would go to you haul, the.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Mexicans would surround your truck, like when you turn on
the kitchen at night and the roaches just start scattering.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Nobody came to the car, No one was there.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Everybody is So I asked the lady that you are, said,
where are all the guys that be out here during
the day, laborers and everything? She said, nobody is showing up.
Everybody is petrified, And you're right. The fear is how
he's winning. The fear is so powerful and people are
so intimidated and afraid, and the powers that be will
not stand up against this force.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
We are. It's a losing game.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
And I just think that if we don't stand together
with our brown brothers and sisters, after he removes the browns,
he's coming for the blacks.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, and we can't. We cannot turn away. Even though
we say, well, they voted for them, so they can
have them, we still got to stand by them because
he will turn on us next.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
He's the king of chaos. That's what he does. It's chaotic, chaotic, chaotic,
and distractions. That's what flames. Flames. Big word is distractions
because we're paying attention to what's happening. Tell La, but
we're not talking about the romance and the chaos between
Musket and Trump's breakup. We're not talking about the economy,
We're not talking about the tariffs or any of the
(18:35):
things that are substantive exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, that's the distraction.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, and his strategy, his strategy is throw twenty five
things at them at one time.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
They're going to pay attention to two or three. But
those other twenty three are the ones that we really
want to work anyway, and people are so busy fighting
with each other, the infighting between the Democratic part I
do not claim to be a democratic anymore.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I had to step away.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I just I'm independent because the Democrats look so weak
and get us in this position. They were so worried
about a woman. Let me say this again, and now
you know, I am a champion of women. They were
so worried about a woman being in a position of power,
all her emotion. But look at the emotion that's coming
from the top right now, Kim. It is barbaric.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, no, it's really It is frightening because we don't
know what's next.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
No, and then for you to bring in the National
Guard and the military from seventy seven Palms.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Those guys, all they do all day is trained and
taint they so they need somewhere to let off all
of that energy where they've been training and they've been
preparing for this, But they were preparing for this for
our foreign adver saries, not for the American cities.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Sit here, and I'm right, that's the problem, not right
here on our soil. It's bad it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Is what I feel like not being a California I'm
on I'm on the opposite coast. I feel like Karen
bass And and Newsome have a little bit of culpability here.
They needed to handle the rioters better. I don't know
if that's them calling in the National Guard so they
could control the narrative, tell them exactly the places they
(20:18):
want to put them. But it kind of gave him,
It gave him the power, and now he's he's controlling
the entire narrative.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
You know, he didn't you know, they didn't ask for
the National Guard to come in.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
No, no, no, that's what I'm saying. I wonder if
they should have where they could have controlled where they
were placed, how many how many troops were put in
you know, when the rioting, the agitators got a hold
of the situation.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
No, I don't what you're saying about it.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
But on the news, if you're not in California, if
you're not on the news, they super sensationalized.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
At other places, they make it look like something.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Karen bas and Governor Newsom have been doing their jobs,
especially that new I love Gavin Newsom and I.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Love Kring band. They are doing their jobs.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
But what happened was he did executive orders and the
people in positions of power over overrode them and just
did what they wanted to do. So now they're pointing
the finger of blang, which is what he does at
Karen Banks and Gavin Newsom, they were jobs. L a
p D had it under control. These were was upset. Yeah,
(21:28):
l a p D was upset. They said, we didn't
even know Ice was coming. Normally you notify us so
we can.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Back you up. He said, we find out after the
fact you can't control anything like that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
They're coming for the worst people. It seems like they're
just gathering any people that they can get.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
They're mostly going after the innocent women and children. They're
not going to mess with the control loads. They're not
going to rest with them game members.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's like low hanging fruit is what again? On the
opposite side, that's what it looks like. But yeah, I mean,
it's the whole thing is it's it's just a mess.
You know, when they look they look ridiculous to other countries.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yeah, well, America, Courage in America has a different face.
Courage in America has a dick and titties. That would
be me because I ain't scared of ship. Let me
just say that. Secondly, speaking of having the dick and tities,
because I am a parent and a and a good dad.
So when Kim Whittley's son was going through a growing pain,
Kim called me, then I give you a good advice.
So that Kim, so I tell him. So many single mothers,
(22:30):
so many single women have to understand that when their sons,
because if you're when a woman is raising their son,
it's different. So when their sons get to puberty and
they experience things, a lot of women'll be like, I
don't do that. You can't do that. So I told Kim, no,
that's not how you handle this. You let a man
talk to your son about those unnatural things that happen.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
How did that work out for you and Joshua? Kim,
it's boring.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You don't want them to stop. I want them to
stop grabbing it. You know, just a little while ago,
I was like, is it itch and wash it? You
know I'm adjustin my shirts or justin I'm dying it all.
Then you can't your hand off of it.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
This is what we do. Look at that's the other
side of me. This is what we do. We have
to make sure it's still there. I don't real to
make sure that the two fair, that the two fairy
didn't steal it in the middle of the night.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Well baby, if it's the size of a tooth, that's
a problem to I.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Don't know which way our country is handed, but what
I see is so scary to me.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
And I'm telling you, but I have my pick right
now to put in a candidate for the Democratic Party
for us to have a president. It would be Pete bootajedg.
They have issues with Pete who.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
You said, pink booty Judge.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
No, no, no, no, Pete Pete Bootaj Bootajedge to me
has the charisma. He definitely has a tenacity, and he
has the the the intelligence, and he has to experience
a round the country. But they harbor, they would harbor
him because he's openly gay, he's in the same sex relationship.
I personally think he should just come out and say, yep,
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some nice, I'll take it over, ass some nice, my
husband take it over.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Ass. What do they have to do? What does that
have to do with my part? Because once you own it,
they can't own you. Anymore.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
See that's the only political weapon they was with against him.
Make it fun and be honest about lse. Okay, now
move that out the way. What else do you have?
Because just like Gilliam, that Andrew Gilliam and Floyd when
he got caught with his pants down, his political man
was fantastic.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
He just copled his pants got covered his pants down.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
But if you own that, then you don't you take
the power away from somebody else owning that for you?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
What about Newsom?
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Well, I don't want to lose Newsom as the California God.
That is so selfish of me.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I don't want to lose. But do you make a
great president?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I absolutely believe he would. I absolutely believe he.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
What are the superstars we got? What other superstars we got?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Jeffrey now Corey Booker's two face to me? We got Jeffries,
we got King Jeffries.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
How come Jeffrees? That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I got more. I know you don't.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
But I like Wes Moore.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I really like Wes Moore. There's something if Flamee has reservations.
At times, I think she's she's on the fence.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I don't like French straddlers.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I like that if you and I understand you, you
you seeing things in a different way, But don't start
off one way and then completely go the other way.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
If you're gonna shift, show me the reason why you shifted.
Don't just shift because the money came in. You know
what I mean? Kim?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
That is that is how I see myself as a
trans person. I'm always under fire for my own community
because I've never shifted.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
I lived as a trans woman. When Kim first met me,
I lived as a woman. I did her show her
talk to your old drama way back. I can't remember
a year, but way back, and I lived as a woman,
no kids. He was banging like him saying, but I
never shifted to be the trans woman that disrespected the
biological woman. I was always just a trans woman that
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knew who I was. I didn't have a place. I
created my own place.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
But I think that is why if Newsom would stay
out of the trans stuff, the trans they would love
to push that the trans.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Issues were the reason we lost the election. That was
not the reason. That was the rhine, That was the rhine.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Why why would they say that, what's that to do
with it?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Because they used all of the trans pushing the narrative
of we wanted to be on tampon boxes and I'm
more woman than you, and a woman is an XX
chromosome and a woman is a social construct. The Republicans
took that camp and flipped it, weaponize it, and use
it against the Democratic Party.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I watched the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
They showed Trump's commercial that you're going to send your
kids to school as a boy and he's gonna come
back as a girl and there's nothing you can do
about it. Three times. Three times they showed that commercial.
I told Boby clippand on that day, I said, we're toasts.
We are toasts, and we became and we became toast.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You saw wow.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Well, because somebody in rural America who've never experienced somebody
like me, a West Virginia or a Kentucky up in
the mountain, who's never seen somebody like me a close
and person, never had a conversation to make me, Let
you make me comfortable.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
But you're here on TV.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
You're a leader telling you they're gonna You're gonna send
Joshua to school this morning, ainst Joshua, and he's gonna
come back this afternoon as Jeanette, and there's nothing you
could do about it.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
They have taken your power away as a parent.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
That was scariest shit to me cam as a parent
and as a transperson.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Wow, okay, understood.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
But that was not why we lost. That was not
why we lost.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
We lost because the Democratic Party put that tail between
the legs and they kept fighting with everybody with each other.
When Joe Biden finally stepped away and Kamala Harris became
the nominee, oh honey, we cheered and danced and split
and raised money like a maniac. Six days later, the
Democratic Party picked her apart or she's throwing her hair,
she's laughing too much. And there was no need for
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the Republican Party to go up to us. The Democrats
are notorious for picking each other apart.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
The Republicans stententos down. This nigga can have his hand
in the cookie job, stealing right in on the camera.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
You know what they said, Oh yeah, he was just
he was just taking one cookie. He got the whole
cookie job on his arm. But they are brilliant for
sticking together.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yes, we need to learn from them on that and
get a message.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
We need a clear message. I mean David Cogg, the
vice chair for DNC, left the Democratic Party today. That
was shocking to me. Wow, because he's one of he
doesn't he doesn't like where the parties had a yes.
And this is a young kid, you know, who I
was hoping was going to help to drive and form
the party. As you know, our white haired guys started
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to be picked off one by one. Right, so we've
got we need a better message.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Well, Kim is big in political push and fundraising because
she was deep behind Mayor Bass. Kim, do you ever
see yourself down the line possibly getting into politics.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I've always I've always thought about being a mayor.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Always.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
My parents always wanted me to be in politics. But
the way it is now probably not.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah. It's a very shitty game. It's a very.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
And it's a lot of work. And because I look
at I look at Karen Bass. As much as she
loves the city and much good she does, when those
fires hit, people tore her apart. She's only She's only
one mayor. She's not the mayor of all the cities.
And people aren't educated enough to think they think Karen
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Bass the mayor everywhere in Los Angeles no, no, nope,
there's twenty five other mayors and she can't overlighte. She's
not like, oh, I'm the big mayor, I'm the big boss.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
No.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
So it's a lot of things that people don't understand.
And so when it comes to politics, you know, when
it's going good, everybody's riding with you. But when it
goes bad, they come against you. It's just always what
it is.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
People are so shortsighted when they went after her and
the fire started. She was overseas lining up China to
make sure that we could have the Olympics here, and
nobody thought about that. All they thought about, well, well
she was that she was on vacation. No, she was
doing her job, was not.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Biden sent her there. That's what people need to understand.
The President sent her there because you know, she was
always in politics and who better represent the United States
but camp beat's at that time, so she went over.
She didn't say, well, there's gonna be a fire in
my city, so you know, just people need to be
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more educated on what's going on.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
She came right back. So I'm like some people flame crisis. Yeah,
the vacation taker. It was a cruise, was.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
That cruise in Texas. Wait Cam the next time you
speak with Karen Baske, because you and I were at
one of her fundraisers and they brought me on stage.
Jamie Masida brought me on stage to raise money for it,
and I had money in both of my teachers. I said,
this money is the Democratic money. This is the Republican money.
I say now, I said, this is the independent money.
But the Republican money is up under my dress. And
so she and I laughed. So she told me she
was going to give me a job, and I told
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I wanted to work with the trans youth because I
would like to work with the trans youth to educate
them on being authentically themselves. Now letting somebody else tell
you what you are and how you got to feel.
I know who you are and what you are, but
I ain't heard from my ass no more. So you
tell them when I see it, I might call out
and I.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Would do that. I would never do that.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I'm telling you still want to do it.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
I'd still want to. I want And now I just
watched them. They have just stripped all gender affirming care
for the youth at the Children's hospital here in California.
Because the Trump administration threatened to stop all the funding
if they did. This is what I was talking about
when I was on the Breakfast Club and they went
after me so hard, when I was like, listen, you
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need to be a certain age to make these decisions.
Had I started taking hormones at fourteen and remove my
penis so I would never have my children, I would
never know what my life would have been because I
didn't allow a chance for life to life. And that
is what I think we should.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Let people understand that you will change your mind from
fourteen to nineteen, and from twenty one to twenty eight,
and from thirty two to forty.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
You change your mind, let your body a heel to that.
But they didn't want to hear that. But I do
want to do that job, Kim.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I would love to get into politics, but my parents
ain't gonna let me get in a positives I've done everything.
They're gonna be like, oh yeah, I'll be like, but
I'm gonna tell it first. So, like I said about poolage,
is if you tell it first, you take away a
person's power to have that opening.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Should it true? That is facts.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
What's next in the future for Kim Whitley for.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Kim Whitley, still doing too funny mine and build that
brand and going to you know, the North to Shore
Festival with two funny mamas have of course, you know,
my dad is ninety one. I like to go home
and visit my dad. I got to get Joshua in
summer school and then get him ready for high school
for next year. Listen. I just did a movie called
(33:19):
Last Shop on Walnut. I filmed that in Cleveland. That
was great. I did a movie with Mac ten called
Scratch that was fun. So what's this.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Been?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Busy? More stand up? I gotta get, you know, back
on the road doing stand up. Get a special going,
and you know, maybe with all this going on, I'll
find a boyfriend who knows.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Speaking speaking of your stand up, so the last time
I seen you do stand up, which was last year
at the Miracle Theater with the Elliott Brothers, that was
the best I had ever seen you. You have found
your voice to me now, Kim as a stand up
comedian coach your pal, I was like, who.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Is this at you?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
On stage?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I ain't got to say because you, like you said,
you're usually all over the place.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Girl.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
You were pile pile. It was fanda and I told you,
I said, girl, that's the best idea. I'm gonna say,
you do that, and you know that's who I am.
I'm gonna tell you, girl, I'm watching. That was fantastic.
Kim you your new your stand up now whatever you
didn't did and revamp yourself. I think it's the new
hair color.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Girl, you killer, shut up?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
You know what I tell you what I'm trying to
be like you. But it was those eight weeks doing
Jimmy Kimmel in Vegas, that residency and doing those shows
every week, you know, was a damn training ground.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I had a show on Sunday and a show on Monday,
and I went back to LA but every week with
people from all over the world fun. It really built
my confidence and my and my comedy.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I called you every week to a saint. When you
get on stage, I have.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
A that's what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
That's the magic of comedy to me. Once you know yourself,
if you haven't found the audious resonates with that. So
they're having fun watching you have fun.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
That's true because you know most comedian say, girl, go
out there and kill It'll go kill it, kill it.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I never like kill it. I like have a great
time because we gonna want yes, yes, that is listen
right now, kid. We need to laugh, and we have
to laugh to keep him crying. We are living in
the most barbaric times of my lifetime.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
And I'm about to be thirty nine years old next month,
so we are living in the most barbaria.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Look we all faces pros up. Wait a minute, wait
a minute, you know how goot y'all.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I was laughing at the barbaric part too.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
The damn it is barbaria because we have to think
that there's a snowball effect that if he's doing this
to one group of people, we are damn show lad up.
In Project twenty twenty five, Bobby and I talked about
a year before Jerizie p Henson mentioned it on the
beach here was we were already.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Talking about it here at left alert. We knew what
was coming down the pipe.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
No, you're absolutely right. It is barbaric.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Is the word.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Absolutely I would agree with you.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Are you looking forward to maybe ten years being a grandmother? Oh?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
God forbid, God forbid. I don't know if I'm looking
forward to that as of yet. I'm looking forward to
him going to college. How about that. Let's get that
out the way.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
That college the college days is sketchy right now?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Good God, I know, I know all the things that
have happened, you know, just being happy and healthy for
all the people falling off and dying. You know. I
just pray for health every day. You know. We used
to pray for wealth, but health is wealth at the
end of the day.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
It is the truth. It's funny as you get a
few years older, once you hit your forties, you realize
that's the truth. Is that what I'm supposed to say? Fan,
Once you hit you're going to be forty.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna be Don't do that. I'm only going
to be thirty. Kim. Do you enjoy being you enjoy
being a mother?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I love being a mother and changed my life. Gave
me really something to look forward to in my life,
you know, not always Oh I gotta get a man.
I gotta get a man. You know, had this little
human who I got to shape his life and pour
into him. I love him, he loves me, and to
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build a family, to have that family and just you know,
teaching him, laughing with him, scolding him, you know, it's
part of my every I think it is the reason
why I work. I almost say is the reason why
I breathe. Just the reason I look at everything that
I do is about being a mother. You know why,
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of course the career. But you're constantly like, oh, I
gotta I gotta get him in school, I gotta get
the school clothes, I gotta feed him. What's he gonna
eat today? Did he drink enough water? It is a
constant worry. So I would say I do enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
The three of us are single parent is a single
parent as well.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Oh so you're tired too.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Well, mine's grown and I have failure to launch. Next
door in the other room, he's grown, and Harry's hilarious.
The best thing I ever did. But sometimes I go,
oh god, I did too much, or you know, you
can kind of see your mistakes.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Yeah, when you when you got Joshua, you were actually
sat white because it wasn't planned at all, was it?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, it was not planned, But the Lord is always planning.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I wasn't ready for it, and uh, it threw me
for a loop, stopped my life. But you know, this
baby came and they called me and my mother, who's
always known best, said you go get that baby. That's
your baby. I was like, uh no, my mother's side,
you ain't got no man, you ain't got no kids.
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You really ain't got nothing to do today. She said,
go get that baby.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
So that is hysterical. I love not about being a
single parent. I love that I didn't have to ask
anybody anything. Did you enjoy that. I mean, it's nice
to have a partner, but I got to raise them
the way that I wanted to and I didn't have
to ask permission or bought up against anybody. I think
that's one of the positives of being a single parent.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yes, mine is a little different because Joshua has a dad.
And the reason I say that is because Rodney Van
Johnson Joshua was a weeko baby and he was, you know,
a friend of mine and part of my ability. And
so I grew up without a dad, he said, And
I really don't want Joshua's experience that, so that has
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been his father from day one. I don't really have
to ask permission, but I do consult. That's great and Joshua,
so that that is a freedom that is nice that
you could just say you know what, I'm gonna send
them to the school, or you're gonna put these pants on?
Because I said he's gonna put these pants on.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
You're doing with that, Kim.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
I want you to understand from this is the man
in me talking because there was two of us up
in here. What that is going to do for Joshua
is to see that when you ask his dad certain things,
especially in front of him, that will teach him that
when he becomes a man and he gets a woman,
he would treat his children more fairly because he'll have
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the mom to say, hey, should we do this? Okay,
that is a great You don't even know that you're
doing it, because people always say kids, kids pick up everything.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Kids watch everything that we do.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
We watch everything that we do, and you think they're
not paying attention, and then they come ten years later
say I remember when you used to do this, and
you befool like I didn't even though you saw me
do that. So that's a great That is a great story, Kim,
And that's going to be a that's going to be
an instrumental and making him a whole man.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Fantastic. Thank you for that. I appreciate that because I
always worry about. You know what I'm showing in him
and what I'm teaching now.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Girl, I wanted you to come to my open house
when they have it in my house Sunday and badest
house on Father's Day. I guess they have no respect
for me of being a father. But girl wants you
to bay his house somemore. I'm looking to move as
we speak.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
Good God, who was that that just came from behind you?
That's my partner, LB Hey, Lb, she came here. I
got you the thing that LB Kim Willy said hello.
He said hello, beautiful and you do look beautiful. Kim.
I never seen you this pretty, even with blind.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
She just did.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
I was, let me tell you something. I feel better.
I was about to pass out.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
I was. I wasn't that pretty?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
My? Well? It was well nuts, peanuts, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Cashus my, it's so crazy.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
My god, Kim with you. I want to tell you
thank you for joining us. I am I'm excited to
see what the future holds. Who if you say something
so prolific to me?
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Because everybody knows Sherry to be witty and storytelling, funny
and woo wo, but she was so dramatic and strong.
I would like to see you stretch your dramatic chumps, Kim.
I would love to see you in some crazy derange
serial killer woman, drama, kidnapped the kids, put the bitch
in the trunk with a pampa on draft, Oh so crazy,
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and kill it, Kim, and that that would be your
big award, because everybody knows you for the funny. Show
them baby, it's a whole lot of dimensions up under
his layers. That would be great. Jump Tyler Perry. Put
my girl in a dramatic movie and make her pull
it up, take a wig off and everything.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
I ain't never seen Kim Real's hair. I've never seen
Kim's real.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Hair, and you won't. Drama girl.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
You had to have your real hair and the drama crazy,
you know, like Danna Ross and Lady Saints the Blues
when she was wrecked in.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
A and I do have that.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
If you ever watch The Bay, it's on the frime
and on YouTube. Babe, the series I played this character
called Big Candy and I was in jail. My hair
was an episode of that. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
I'm telling you, Kim, that to me, especially when everybody
knows you for your funny everybody knows you for the
big personality dismount and it used to be Kim. Kim
used to be only teeth and titties. That's all she
used to be known. Hair teeth and titties.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
That's a good combination.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Hair teeth and titties.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
That was who came.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
That could be the name of your special hair teeth
and titties and.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
Funny it laughs.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Right, Well, I forgot I gotta get a babysit on Jesus.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
That was always who you were.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
But Kim, I would love to see you do something
like that because I think I know you have it
in you. I've been knowing you a long time and
I've only ever seen you upset one time. Actually, but
I think that would be fantastic for your career. Actually,
people will see, Wait a minute, is that everybody gonna
say the same thing?
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Is that Kim Whidley. I'm gonna say, right right.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
You've heard it here.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
I do appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
You can catch Kim Widley on tour on kay Y
m W H I T L E Y. She also
has social media platforms. She also does a weekly is
It Weekly with Cherry Shepherd Too Funny Mama for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeap every week drops the new podcast every Thursday.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
And Chris and Chris is their producer. We love Chris.
Chris is just the nicest guy. He always acknowledges me
whenever I'm in the lab. Whenever I get the ding
and I watch it, he always says, flame myro is
in the chat. I'm always in the chat listening and appreciate.
Thank you Kim, thank you from Laugh and Learn for
coming here joining us. I'm excited to see the new
movie with Adam Sandler. I cannot wait.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Right happy to give more too, coming out in July.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
July twenty fifth on Netflix until Adam sandlue the next
time you need a transactress in the movie, he ain't
just got. It's more than just one or two. I'm
here waiting for a phone call.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
I was going to do one of his movies years
ago with Lunel and a little person. But I called
the girl a midget, and she had a mail down
and started crying, and when left, I didn't know it was.
It was when the whole councel culture started. You couldn't
say the word midget, but she was a damn midget.
I should have said a little person. And I wasn't
being offensive. I just was used to saying midget.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Well that was the word back then, so I don't
wouldn't know that.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Oh honey, she was. She almost jumped out her chairs
start and started growing. Good guy, you what too fresh.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Bobby were knowing?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I don't know. It was very nice meeting you.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
I was so excited, Thank you, Bobby. I really had
a good time. Thank you playing.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
I didn't want to go deep. Yes, we didn't want
to go deep. We wanted to just let you. But Kim,
you look great. You look happy. That's what you look.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
And I love to see that because I've been knowing
you such a long time and I love to see
what my friends who have got a little season look happy.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yes, everybody, here go Bobby, Here go, Bobby. Well, thank
you all so much.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
I got your.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Last this is your last episode. Congratulations season four.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
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This is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome to seasons for
final episode of laugh Alone. I am your host. Also
here with my lovely co hosts, the one and only Toots.
Hi you Bobby Cliffords.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How you doing with good company?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Today? We do have company.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
We're gonna get to hone a minute because today is
a very special day. Not only is our did our
last episode of season four and we dig it re
signed to season five. But today is my last baby's
graduation day. She's graduating from high school. And our special
guest has known my children since they were infants.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
So this is going to be way more than just
a conversation of friends.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
This woman has known us, partially, taking care of us,
looked out for us on so many numerous occasions. But
we've watched her stars and steel ras. I want you
to introduce a.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Very special guest, comedian, actress, host, podcaster, friend, new mother, Well,
I would say a new mother.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I think I inspired her to have a baby. Let
me just say that one and only missus.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Kim Wiley. Hey, Kim Whitley.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I'm trying to eat a snack.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I see you over there putting the nuts in your mouth,
and that's the story of your life.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Always get some nuts in your mouth. Always listen.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
We are so excited to have you, hear Kim, to
close out our season for it because we have guests
here and there, and we're gonna talk about you and
your life and your career. But we damn sure I
want to talk about because this is laugh and learn,
this is political hodgepodge, and we both live in California,
so we will touch on the situation that is happening
in our city and our state as of right down.
But first of all, we want to just say, hey,
(03:19):
Kim Widley, thank you for joining us here at Laugh
and Learn. Bobby a few questions you want to ask Kim.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
First, I had to get a snack my blood sugar drop.
I'm about to pass out.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Don't do that, Kim, don't do that. We can't.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
We can't come from and do CPR or anything either.
We're gonna have to just like send a positive vibes Bobby.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Bobby said, can't come through.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
See, I told you blame. You're used to my absent.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Bobby is from Boston and she is an Irish woman.
And don't worry, you're gonna hear some slang up in here. Kim,
withy you and you go. You might be able to
use it in your next role when you pass off
as an Irish woman. Listen, I want to say congratulations
to you on on what season is this for?
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Two funny mamas? Like four five?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, we started in the pandemic, so we've been rolling.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I remember you guys have won.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
That's to Kim, Willie and Sherry Shepherd's podcast it's called
Two Funny Mamas, is on YouTube and everything, and they
started there during the pandemic because people needed to relate
entertain and what the internet did for us as entertainers
was y'all thought that we were entertaining y'all, but y'all
were keeping us saying we needed somebody to talk to
while we were stuck at the house since we didn't
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have audiences. Kim, what did you and Sherry know that
Two Funny Mamas would become exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
No, actually, I thought it'd be better. No, you know,
I was looking forward to it. I knew that we
both had personalities and sure it was really practicing dec
you can get a talk show, but it was fun,
you know, And we didn't know become such a place
(04:59):
for women and all kinds of people just to really
have fun and talk and you talk about everything.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
We gotta.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
We try to make it a structor structured podcast. It's
not structured. We've been trying for few years, but we
did not know. But we're happy at the outcome.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I think that's the beauty of the show, because y'all
do me all over the place. Y'all be especially you Cam.
Let me just be honest, You'll be all over the
damn place.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I do. I try to be professional.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
It's not a professional.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
It's entertaining because with Kim is the ground and you
just like the circle and you like she's like the
Indian and you're the cowboy just circling the wagons.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
So that is a great, you know, way to watch
the show.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
And it's so fun and it's so enlightening because so
many women talk about some of the things, the women
struggles that you guys talk about as a parent and
you know, women's issues and just what's happening in the
in the industry as far as being entertainers and comedians,
because you're both our comedians. I want to talk to you,
Kim about your new movie. You're rolling Adam Sandler's new movie,
(05:59):
Happy get More too.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Very excited about that. Happy gil More two comes out
in July, everybody, July twenty fifth on Netflix. And you know,
it's been twenty some years that Adam Sandler had made
Happy Gilmore big success, and now people have been waiting
and begging for him to make a Happy gel More too,
(06:24):
And here it.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Is twenty five. Who kill me? But you look great.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And let me just say this, because you know, when
I'm dressed up, I always wear red hair, I wear
my glasses, and I always wear red lifting. Somebody is
biting off of my look. I am not gonna say
her name, but she's on this podcast right now.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I've always wanted to be you.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Oh my god, girl, you don't want to be me.
And if you see this, make account, but I'll take it.
I damn show take it.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Listen. We inspire each other.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
So let me give you all some history of me
and Kim Willy Maybe so my daughter is just my
daughter just made eighteen, so maybe like seventh. Eighteen years ago,
Kim Willie had introduced me to WE television by doing
a reality show. I was all over the place, crazy
and love heartbroken, had just moved to California, and we.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Didn't get it off the ground. But then Kim ended
up having her own kid, little Joshua, who's eleven or
twelve now is Joshua.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Twent thirteen, fourteen fourteen wow. And she had a show
on on Call raising Whitley. So it was a synopsis
of what it's like and what it takes to raise
a kid. Kim adopted Joshua, but it's still her baby.
Hear me, when I tell you love it ain't got
to come out of you. When it's your kid, you
love it, it don't have to come out of you.
(07:44):
And we thought it was on for four seasons. It
was a great show, and I really believe, I want
to say I had a little bit of an inspiration
in that because Kim became a mother and she talked
about as a comedian and a working actress, but she
had a barrage, a village of people around her, because
it does take a village to raise a kid.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
And it was a great show. Kim.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I thought it was a fantastic show, and I think
it was very well needed at the time.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Well, thank you so much. I hope that we, you know,
with that show taught people how to build their village
and how to ask for help. It was great, Noshall
still all the villagers are still around, very instrumental in
Joshua's upbringing, his life, his love or his family. He
(08:27):
reaches out to them and he you know, needs certain
things or questions. So it's really been a great journey.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
So and then other things they're making a new Fridays,
Uh what's his name? Ice Cubes movie?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
You're going to be that goes you played him, You
played a character, You played an old thought in one
of the movies.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Are you going to be in the new one?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Toney? That's what it would be, too old thought. That's
just what i'd be right now.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah, you're not old. You look fantastic once you got
some of that Benjamin Buddons. You said you ain't told
nobody about it.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Okay, I'm going let y'all know my secret. But I
did talk to ice Cube and they are writing it,
so I was like, don't forget sugar. So I'm very excited.
Hopefully they will get that off the ground. So that's fun.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
It was, It was fun. Kim was an old auntie.
She was one of those aunties that like to touch
nephews I show.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, honey, Sugar was a mess.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
So, Kim, I want to ask you, because you are
from originally are you from You're from Ohio?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, from Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Okay, I knew it was in Ohio. I just didn't
know it was from Cleveland. How long have you been
in California?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
My god, I bet I like by you over thirty years?
Speaker 6 (09:36):
If you got the unfamiliar with Kim's comedy.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Kim has done so oh my god, so many different
platforms of comedy and movies. But to me, Kim, my
opinion your comedic actress. There timing when you're doing comedy
as an actress is bonkers. Now I've been watching Cam
do comedy for twenty years. When I first met Kim,
let me give y'all this. It was at a club
(09:59):
called the Haha Cafe, her and a guy named Buddy Lewis,
where the host by Lewis is still around. And so
I came into the club and they put me on stage.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Did you come in that club with body? YadA YadA,
yadda YADDI.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I still got it and behind this new body, though
this newbody is sagging, but I still got that other buddy.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
It just had.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
We just jailed after that moment. It was such a
great time. That was so many years ago. Buddy Lewis,
who was still friends with Kim Willy and myself to
this day, you know, it was just that was a
great experience. And I was introduced to Kim Willy through
a mutual friend of our. I was Fantasia Lamore. Fantation
introduced to Kim Willy you did.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yes, yes, Oh my god, please give her my love.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Absolutely absolutely. She always asked me about you.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And here's came on my show, Old Drama. I had
the talk show on BT, which I'm still wondering why
they didn't honor us at the BT Awards.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Don't worry, I was talking. Don't worry.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I'm the first trans person ever on b T Have
you ever seen me invited back? And they invited all
these other trans people back? Everybody would have dick and titties.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Hen go on there, Laverne Cox, Leslie Jones, all of them.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
He said, Leveslie Jones, Yeah, say Leveslie.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Jones said, Leslie Jones. Damn it, it was a joke.
This is laughing lart, Okay, Kim, I want to get
off of the career and then all of that and
what else? What else? Does?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Can I ask you?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Is Adam Sandler? You know because I'm from Boston. He's
right over the border in the Hampshire. He's probably thirty
minutes for me. Is he as wonderful to work with
as he seems?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Adam Sandler is absolutely a dream. He's absolutely wonderful. He's funny,
he's fun. He's real laid back, and he loves working
with comedians and he always calls you back. This is
my second Adam Simon movie. Been offered others, but they
keep me in the camp. I love it that family,
(12:01):
all the other comedians speaking across the water. Sherry and
I are going to be in the North to Shore
Festival on June twentieth in Newark at the Njpack, and
people can get their tickets. Of course, the ticket master.
I just want to make sure I sh shot that out.
It's two shows. One is sold out, but we have
to still have tickets for the nine to forty five
(12:22):
show at the NJ Pack, So I wanted to make
sure I mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Of course, that's good because too of your mama's are
on the road a lot. I see y'all been selling
out that it's fantastic. Kim. I want to ask you
about what else does Kim Willy wanted her career. Because
you've done movies, You've done acting, You've done a bunch
of hosting. What do you want because you know your
best girlfriend, Sherry Shepherd has the talk show, But what would.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
You like to be doing? Ultimately, Kim, I can see
you host of a game show and being hysterically funny.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But what do you want I do? I would love
to host a game show. I've always wanted a talk show,
you know, so I started that way. I like to
go back to it. But probably directing, producing, that's up acting,
But those would be the things. Probably drama do some drama,
(13:15):
as you could see Sherry did Straw Tyler Parents.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, I've been seeing all the positive reviews, and I
hear very few.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I hear the negative reviews, mostly from black men, about
how tallent periods only telling struggles of black women and
who single mothers. I'm like, well, they wouldn't be single
mothers if more fathers were present.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Let me just say that because I am.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I've been a single parent my children's entire life, struggling.
You came together, fighting, borrowing money, hustling whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Nobody and then not one mama came this way to
help you.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
You to one of the funny mamas, where both of
the funny mamas have helped me.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Well, your baby mama's that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, Well listen, and I had a choice, people always
say with I could have said here, take the kids
or put the kids into the state and chase my dream.
But I didn't want to be one of those parents
that didn't know their children. I wanted my children to
know me. I wanted to know their favorite food and
their favorite color. Sometimes do I regret it when I
look at my bank account? Sometimes I do. But the
(14:24):
joy of being a parent and now I'm getting my
last baby through high school.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Thank you Lord, I did that.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You did do that. Good job.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
So Ken, we live in California and you know what
we're under right now under this administration. Because our podcast
is definitely about politics. I know you're not close to
downtown because you're further away from another Americas. I'm in
Long Beach. But are you seeing all of this unfold?
And I'm sure you have Latin friends, Mexican friends and workers,
because you know, how is that affecting you?
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Just last night we were sitting in caroline raised backyard
and she lives over in Hancock Park. The amount of
helicopters that flew over our head, we were like, what's
going It was so loud and so long for you know,
it went on probably about an hour an hour and
a half, but we had to say what what we
had to join the news. There were protesters probably on
(15:17):
Western or by the mayor's house. But so that's, you know,
been a constant with that. Caroline said her movers were
moving her some some furniture she bought, and while they
were moving, the neighbor he he is on the phone
screaming to his neighbors had just gotten taken by ice.
(15:40):
So you didn't want to go back home. Just it's
getting closer and closer to us. And I do have
Latino friends and you know people that I know, and
you get concerned. But the bigger concern is how this
minish is trying to turn this into a civil war
(16:03):
and cause chaos. Chaos will make us will be distracted
from what's really going on and the truth and the takeover.
And if this is just the beginning, we have three
more years, three and a half more years of this,
and so I can't imagine what it's going to look
like by Christmas or next year. The fear that he
(16:26):
is putting in the world, and how the administration is
even affecting when I say they've already one friend of
mine called me it was like they just took away
my insurance. I'm like, what, so I don't know if
he's trying to devastate the lower class, the middle class, whatever,
(16:47):
and just try to keep the billionaires where they are
and make everyone else suffer. I don't know what the
endgame is. To answer your question, it is.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I think he runs off of motion because he'll say
something and then a day or two later he'll retract
it or say I may. He won't never admit to
the mistake. He'll just point out the obvious when people
start talking about it. But for me, Kim, I feel
it because I have a lot of that Mexican friends
here too, because of working here.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
And I went to home. I'm in the process of moving,
so I went to home depot, not the home to
tell you haul yesterday to purchase some boxes. Any other
time when you would go to you haul, the.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Mexicans would surround your truck, like when you turn on
the kitchen at night and the roaches just start scattering.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Nobody came to the car, No one was there.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Everybody is So I asked the lady that you are, said,
where are all the guys that be out here during
the day, laborers and everything? She said, nobody is showing up.
Everybody is petrified, And you're right. The fear is how
he's winning. The fear is so powerful and people are
so intimidated and afraid, and the powers that be will
not stand up against this force.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
We are. It's a losing game.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
And I just think that if we don't stand together
with our brown brothers and sisters, after he removes the browns,
he's coming for the blacks.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, and we can't. We cannot turn away. Even though
we say, well, they voted for them, so they can
have them, we still got to stand by them because
he will turn on us next.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
He's the king of chaos. That's what he does. It's chaotic, chaotic, chaotic,
and distractions. That's what flames. Flames. Big word is distractions
because we're paying attention to what's happening. Tell La, but
we're not talking about the romance and the chaos between
Musket and Trump's breakup. We're not talking about the economy,
We're not talking about the tariffs or any of the
(18:35):
things that are substantive exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, that's the distraction.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, and his strategy, his strategy is throw twenty five
things at them at one time.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
They're going to pay attention to two or three. But
those other twenty three are the ones that we really
want to work anyway, and people are so busy fighting
with each other, the infighting between the Democratic part I
do not claim to be a democratic anymore.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I had to step away.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I just I'm independent because the Democrats look so weak
and get us in this position. They were so worried
about a woman. Let me say this again, and now
you know, I am a champion of women. They were
so worried about a woman being in a position of power,
all her emotion. But look at the emotion that's coming
from the top right now, Kim. It is barbaric.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, no, it's really It is frightening because we don't
know what's next.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
No, and then for you to bring in the National
Guard and the military from seventy seven Palms.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Those guys, all they do all day is trained and
taint they so they need somewhere to let off all
of that energy where they've been training and they've been
preparing for this, But they were preparing for this for
our foreign adver saries, not for the American cities.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Sit here, and I'm right, that's the problem, not right
here on our soil. It's bad it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Is what I feel like not being a California I'm
on I'm on the opposite coast. I feel like Karen
bass And and Newsome have a little bit of culpability here.
They needed to handle the rioters better. I don't know
if that's them calling in the National Guard so they
could control the narrative, tell them exactly the places they
(20:18):
want to put them. But it kind of gave him,
It gave him the power, and now he's he's controlling
the entire narrative.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
You know, he didn't you know, they didn't ask for
the National Guard to come in.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
No, no, no, that's what I'm saying. I wonder if
they should have where they could have controlled where they
were placed, how many how many troops were put in
you know, when the rioting, the agitators got a hold
of the situation.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
No, I don't what you're saying about it.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
But on the news, if you're not in California, if
you're not on the news, they super sensationalized.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
At other places, they make it look like something.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Karen bas and Governor Newsom have been doing their jobs,
especially that new I love Gavin Newsom and I.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Love Kring band. They are doing their jobs.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
But what happened was he did executive orders and the
people in positions of power over overrode them and just
did what they wanted to do. So now they're pointing
the finger of blang, which is what he does at
Karen Banks and Gavin Newsom, they were jobs. L a
p D had it under control. These were was upset. Yeah,
(21:28):
l a p D was upset. They said, we didn't
even know Ice was coming. Normally you notify us so
we can.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Back you up. He said, we find out after the
fact you can't control anything like that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
They're coming for the worst people. It seems like they're
just gathering any people that they can get.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
They're mostly going after the innocent women and children. They're
not going to mess with the control loads. They're not
going to rest with them game members.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's like low hanging fruit is what again? On the
opposite side, that's what it looks like. But yeah, I mean,
it's the whole thing is it's it's just a mess.
You know, when they look they look ridiculous to other countries.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yeah, well, America, Courage in America has a different face.
Courage in America has a dick and titties. That would
be me because I ain't scared of ship. Let me
just say that. Secondly, speaking of having the dick and tities,
because I am a parent and a and a good dad.
So when Kim Whittley's son was going through a growing pain,
Kim called me, then I give you a good advice.
So that Kim, so I tell him. So many single mothers,
(22:30):
so many single women have to understand that when their sons,
because if you're when a woman is raising their son,
it's different. So when their sons get to puberty and
they experience things, a lot of women'll be like, I
don't do that. You can't do that. So I told Kim, no,
that's not how you handle this. You let a man
talk to your son about those unnatural things that happen.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
How did that work out for you and Joshua? Kim,
it's boring.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You don't want them to stop. I want them to
stop grabbing it. You know, just a little while ago,
I was like, is it itch and wash it? You
know I'm adjustin my shirts or justin I'm dying it all.
Then you can't your hand off of it.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
This is what we do. Look at that's the other
side of me. This is what we do. We have
to make sure it's still there. I don't real to
make sure that the two fair, that the two fairy
didn't steal it in the middle of the night.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Well baby, if it's the size of a tooth, that's
a problem to I.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Don't know which way our country is handed, but what
I see is so scary to me.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
And I'm telling you, but I have my pick right
now to put in a candidate for the Democratic Party
for us to have a president. It would be Pete bootajedg.
They have issues with Pete who.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
You said, pink booty Judge.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
No, no, no, no, Pete Pete Bootaj Bootajedge to me
has the charisma. He definitely has a tenacity, and he
has the the the intelligence, and he has to experience
a round the country. But they harbor, they would harbor
him because he's openly gay, he's in the same sex relationship.
I personally think he should just come out and say, yep,
(24:12):
some nice, I'll take it over, ass some nice, my
husband take it over.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Ass. What do they have to do? What does that
have to do with my part? Because once you own it,
they can't own you. Anymore.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
See that's the only political weapon they was with against him.
Make it fun and be honest about lse. Okay, now
move that out the way. What else do you have?
Because just like Gilliam, that Andrew Gilliam and Floyd when
he got caught with his pants down, his political man
was fantastic.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
He just copled his pants got covered his pants down.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
But if you own that, then you don't you take
the power away from somebody else owning that for you?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
What about Newsom?
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Well, I don't want to lose Newsom as the California God.
That is so selfish of me.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I don't want to lose. But do you make a
great president?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I absolutely believe he would. I absolutely believe he.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
What are the superstars we got? What other superstars we got?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Jeffrey now Corey Booker's two face to me? We got Jeffries,
we got King Jeffries.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
How come Jeffrees? That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I got more. I know you don't.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
But I like Wes Moore.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I really like Wes Moore. There's something if Flamee has reservations.
At times, I think she's she's on the fence.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I don't like French straddlers.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I like that if you and I understand you, you
you seeing things in a different way, But don't start
off one way and then completely go the other way.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
If you're gonna shift, show me the reason why you shifted.
Don't just shift because the money came in. You know
what I mean? Kim?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
That is that is how I see myself as a
trans person. I'm always under fire for my own community
because I've never shifted.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
I lived as a trans woman. When Kim first met me,
I lived as a woman. I did her show her
talk to your old drama way back. I can't remember
a year, but way back, and I lived as a woman,
no kids. He was banging like him saying, but I
never shifted to be the trans woman that disrespected the
biological woman. I was always just a trans woman that
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knew who I was. I didn't have a place. I
created my own place.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
But I think that is why if Newsom would stay
out of the trans stuff, the trans they would love
to push that the trans.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Issues were the reason we lost the election. That was
not the reason. That was the rhine, That was the rhine.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Why why would they say that, what's that to do
with it?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Because they used all of the trans pushing the narrative
of we wanted to be on tampon boxes and I'm
more woman than you, and a woman is an XX
chromosome and a woman is a social construct. The Republicans
took that camp and flipped it, weaponize it, and use
it against the Democratic Party.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I watched the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
They showed Trump's commercial that you're going to send your
kids to school as a boy and he's gonna come
back as a girl and there's nothing you can do
about it. Three times. Three times they showed that commercial.
I told Boby clippand on that day, I said, we're toasts.
We are toasts, and we became and we became toast.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You saw wow.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Well, because somebody in rural America who've never experienced somebody
like me, a West Virginia or a Kentucky up in
the mountain, who's never seen somebody like me a close
and person, never had a conversation to make me, Let
you make me comfortable.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
But you're here on TV.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
You're a leader telling you they're gonna You're gonna send
Joshua to school this morning, ainst Joshua, and he's gonna
come back this afternoon as Jeanette, and there's nothing you
could do about it.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
They have taken your power away as a parent.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
That was scariest shit to me cam as a parent
and as a transperson.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Wow, okay, understood.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
But that was not why we lost. That was not
why we lost.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
We lost because the Democratic Party put that tail between
the legs and they kept fighting with everybody with each other.
When Joe Biden finally stepped away and Kamala Harris became
the nominee, oh honey, we cheered and danced and split
and raised money like a maniac. Six days later, the
Democratic Party picked her apart or she's throwing her hair,
she's laughing too much. And there was no need for
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the Republican Party to go up to us. The Democrats
are notorious for picking each other apart.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
The Republicans stententos down. This nigga can have his hand
in the cookie job, stealing right in on the camera.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
You know what they said, Oh yeah, he was just
he was just taking one cookie. He got the whole
cookie job on his arm. But they are brilliant for
sticking together.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yes, we need to learn from them on that and
get a message.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
We need a clear message. I mean David Cogg, the
vice chair for DNC, left the Democratic Party today. That
was shocking to me. Wow, because he's one of he
doesn't he doesn't like where the parties had a yes.
And this is a young kid, you know, who I
was hoping was going to help to drive and form
the party. As you know, our white haired guys started
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to be picked off one by one. Right, so we've
got we need a better message.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Well, Kim is big in political push and fundraising because
she was deep behind Mayor Bass. Kim, do you ever
see yourself down the line possibly getting into politics.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I've always I've always thought about being a mayor.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Always.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
My parents always wanted me to be in politics. But
the way it is now probably not.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah. It's a very shitty game. It's a very.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
And it's a lot of work. And because I look
at I look at Karen Bass. As much as she
loves the city and much good she does, when those
fires hit, people tore her apart. She's only She's only
one mayor. She's not the mayor of all the cities.
And people aren't educated enough to think they think Karen
(29:50):
Bass the mayor everywhere in Los Angeles no, no, nope,
there's twenty five other mayors and she can't overlighte. She's
not like, oh, I'm the big mayor, I'm the big boss.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
No.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
So it's a lot of things that people don't understand.
And so when it comes to politics, you know, when
it's going good, everybody's riding with you. But when it
goes bad, they come against you. It's just always what
it is.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
People are so shortsighted when they went after her and
the fire started. She was overseas lining up China to
make sure that we could have the Olympics here, and
nobody thought about that. All they thought about, well, well
she was that she was on vacation. No, she was
doing her job, was not.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Biden sent her there. That's what people need to understand.
The President sent her there because you know, she was
always in politics and who better represent the United States
but camp beat's at that time, so she went over.
She didn't say, well, there's gonna be a fire in
my city, so you know, just people need to be
(30:49):
more educated on what's going on.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
She came right back. So I'm like some people flame crisis. Yeah,
the vacation taker. It was a cruise, was.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
That cruise in Texas. Wait Cam the next time you
speak with Karen Baske, because you and I were at
one of her fundraisers and they brought me on stage.
Jamie Masida brought me on stage to raise money for it,
and I had money in both of my teachers. I said,
this money is the Democratic money. This is the Republican money.
I say now, I said, this is the independent money.
But the Republican money is up under my dress. And
so she and I laughed. So she told me she
was going to give me a job, and I told
(31:26):
I wanted to work with the trans youth because I
would like to work with the trans youth to educate
them on being authentically themselves. Now letting somebody else tell
you what you are and how you got to feel.
I know who you are and what you are, but
I ain't heard from my ass no more. So you
tell them when I see it, I might call out
and I.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Would do that. I would never do that.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I'm telling you still want to do it.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
I'd still want to. I want And now I just
watched them. They have just stripped all gender affirming care
for the youth at the Children's hospital here in California.
Because the Trump administration threatened to stop all the funding
if they did. This is what I was talking about
when I was on the Breakfast Club and they went
after me so hard, when I was like, listen, you
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need to be a certain age to make these decisions.
Had I started taking hormones at fourteen and remove my
penis so I would never have my children, I would
never know what my life would have been because I
didn't allow a chance for life to life. And that
is what I think we should.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Let people understand that you will change your mind from
fourteen to nineteen, and from twenty one to twenty eight,
and from thirty two to forty.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
You change your mind, let your body a heel to that.
But they didn't want to hear that. But I do
want to do that job, Kim.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I would love to get into politics, but my parents
ain't gonna let me get in a positives I've done everything.
They're gonna be like, oh yeah, I'll be like, but
I'm gonna tell it first. So, like I said about poolage,
is if you tell it first, you take away a
person's power to have that opening.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Should it true? That is facts.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
What's next in the future for Kim Whitley for.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Kim Whitley, still doing too funny mine and build that
brand and going to you know, the North to Shore
Festival with two funny mamas have of course, you know,
my dad is ninety one. I like to go home
and visit my dad. I got to get Joshua in
summer school and then get him ready for high school
for next year. Listen. I just did a movie called
(33:19):
Last Shop on Walnut. I filmed that in Cleveland. That
was great. I did a movie with Mac ten called
Scratch that was fun. So what's this.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Been?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Busy? More stand up? I gotta get, you know, back
on the road doing stand up. Get a special going,
and you know, maybe with all this going on, I'll
find a boyfriend who knows.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Speaking speaking of your stand up, so the last time
I seen you do stand up, which was last year
at the Miracle Theater with the Elliott Brothers, that was
the best I had ever seen you. You have found
your voice to me now, Kim as a stand up
comedian coach your pal, I was like, who.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Is this at you?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
On stage?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I ain't got to say because you, like you said,
you're usually all over the place.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Girl.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
You were pile pile. It was fanda and I told you,
I said, girl, that's the best idea. I'm gonna say,
you do that, and you know that's who I am.
I'm gonna tell you, girl, I'm watching. That was fantastic.
Kim you your new your stand up now whatever you
didn't did and revamp yourself. I think it's the new
hair color.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Girl, you killer, shut up?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
You know what I tell you what I'm trying to
be like you. But it was those eight weeks doing
Jimmy Kimmel in Vegas, that residency and doing those shows
every week, you know, was a damn training ground.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I had a show on Sunday and a show on Monday,
and I went back to LA but every week with
people from all over the world fun. It really built
my confidence and my and my comedy.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I called you every week to a saint. When you
get on stage, I have.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
A that's what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
That's the magic of comedy to me. Once you know yourself,
if you haven't found the audious resonates with that. So
they're having fun watching you have fun.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
That's true because you know most comedian say, girl, go
out there and kill It'll go kill it, kill it.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I never like kill it. I like have a great
time because we gonna want yes, yes, that is listen
right now, kid. We need to laugh, and we have
to laugh to keep him crying. We are living in
the most barbaric times of my lifetime.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
And I'm about to be thirty nine years old next month,
so we are living in the most barbaria.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Look we all faces pros up. Wait a minute, wait
a minute, you know how goot y'all.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I was laughing at the barbaric part too.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
The damn it is barbaria because we have to think
that there's a snowball effect that if he's doing this
to one group of people, we are damn show lad up.
In Project twenty twenty five, Bobby and I talked about
a year before Jerizie p Henson mentioned it on the
beach here was we were already.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Talking about it here at left alert. We knew what
was coming down the pipe.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
No, you're absolutely right. It is barbaric.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Is the word.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Absolutely I would agree with you.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Are you looking forward to maybe ten years being a grandmother? Oh?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
God forbid, God forbid. I don't know if I'm looking
forward to that as of yet. I'm looking forward to
him going to college. How about that. Let's get that
out the way.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
That college the college days is sketchy right now?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Good God, I know, I know all the things that
have happened, you know, just being happy and healthy for
all the people falling off and dying. You know. I
just pray for health every day. You know. We used
to pray for wealth, but health is wealth at the
end of the day.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
It is the truth. It's funny as you get a
few years older, once you hit your forties, you realize
that's the truth. Is that what I'm supposed to say? Fan,
Once you hit you're going to be forty.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna be Don't do that. I'm only going
to be thirty. Kim. Do you enjoy being you enjoy
being a mother?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I love being a mother and changed my life. Gave
me really something to look forward to in my life,
you know, not always Oh I gotta get a man.
I gotta get a man. You know, had this little
human who I got to shape his life and pour
into him. I love him, he loves me, and to
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build a family, to have that family and just you know,
teaching him, laughing with him, scolding him, you know, it's
part of my every I think it is the reason
why I work. I almost say is the reason why
I breathe. Just the reason I look at everything that
I do is about being a mother. You know why,
(37:45):
of course the career. But you're constantly like, oh, I
gotta I gotta get him in school, I gotta get
the school clothes, I gotta feed him. What's he gonna
eat today? Did he drink enough water? It is a
constant worry. So I would say I do enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
The three of us are single parent is a single
parent as well.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Oh so you're tired too.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Well, mine's grown and I have failure to launch. Next
door in the other room, he's grown, and Harry's hilarious.
The best thing I ever did. But sometimes I go,
oh god, I did too much, or you know, you
can kind of see your mistakes.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Yeah, when you when you got Joshua, you were actually
sat white because it wasn't planned at all, was it?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
No, it was not planned, But the Lord is always planning.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I wasn't ready for it, and uh, it threw me
for a loop, stopped my life. But you know, this
baby came and they called me and my mother, who's
always known best, said you go get that baby. That's
your baby. I was like, uh no, my mother's side,
you ain't got no man, you ain't got no kids.
(39:02):
You really ain't got nothing to do today. She said,
go get that baby.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
So that is hysterical. I love not about being a
single parent. I love that I didn't have to ask
anybody anything. Did you enjoy that. I mean, it's nice
to have a partner, but I got to raise them
the way that I wanted to and I didn't have
to ask permission or bought up against anybody. I think
that's one of the positives of being a single parent.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yes, mine is a little different because Joshua has a dad.
And the reason I say that is because Rodney Van
Johnson Joshua was a weeko baby and he was, you know,
a friend of mine and part of my ability. And
so I grew up without a dad, he said, And
I really don't want Joshua's experience that, so that has
(39:49):
been his father from day one. I don't really have
to ask permission, but I do consult. That's great and Joshua,
so that that is a freedom that is nice that
you could just say you know what, I'm gonna send
them to the school, or you're gonna put these pants on?
Because I said he's gonna put these pants on.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
You're doing with that, Kim.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
I want you to understand from this is the man
in me talking because there was two of us up
in here. What that is going to do for Joshua
is to see that when you ask his dad certain things,
especially in front of him, that will teach him that
when he becomes a man and he gets a woman,
he would treat his children more fairly because he'll have
(40:34):
the mom to say, hey, should we do this? Okay,
that is a great You don't even know that you're
doing it, because people always say kids, kids pick up everything.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Kids watch everything that we do.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
We watch everything that we do, and you think they're
not paying attention, and then they come ten years later
say I remember when you used to do this, and
you befool like I didn't even though you saw me
do that. So that's a great That is a great story, Kim,
And that's going to be a that's going to be
an instrumental and making him a whole man.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Fantastic. Thank you for that. I appreciate that because I
always worry about. You know what I'm showing in him
and what I'm teaching now.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Girl, I wanted you to come to my open house
when they have it in my house Sunday and badest
house on Father's Day. I guess they have no respect
for me of being a father. But girl wants you
to bay his house somemore. I'm looking to move as
we speak.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
Good God, who was that that just came from behind you?
That's my partner, LB Hey, Lb, she came here. I
got you the thing that LB Kim Willy said hello.
He said hello, beautiful and you do look beautiful. Kim.
I never seen you this pretty, even with blind.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
She just did.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
I was, let me tell you something. I feel better.
I was about to pass out.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
I was. I wasn't that pretty?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
My? Well? It was well nuts, peanuts, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Cashus my, it's so crazy.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
My god, Kim with you. I want to tell you
thank you for joining us. I am I'm excited to
see what the future holds. Who if you say something
so prolific to me?
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Because everybody knows Sherry to be witty and storytelling, funny
and woo wo, but she was so dramatic and strong.
I would like to see you stretch your dramatic chumps, Kim.
I would love to see you in some crazy derange
serial killer woman, drama, kidnapped the kids, put the bitch
in the trunk with a pampa on draft, Oh so crazy,
(42:28):
and kill it, Kim, and that that would be your
big award, because everybody knows you for the funny. Show
them baby, it's a whole lot of dimensions up under
his layers. That would be great. Jump Tyler Perry. Put
my girl in a dramatic movie and make her pull
it up, take a wig off and everything.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
I ain't never seen Kim Real's hair. I've never seen
Kim's real.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Hair, and you won't. Drama girl.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
You had to have your real hair and the drama crazy,
you know, like Danna Ross and Lady Saints the Blues
when she was wrecked in.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
A and I do have that.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
If you ever watch The Bay, it's on the frime
and on YouTube. Babe, the series I played this character
called Big Candy and I was in jail. My hair
was an episode of that. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
I'm telling you, Kim, that to me, especially when everybody
knows you for your funny everybody knows you for the
big personality dismount and it used to be Kim. Kim
used to be only teeth and titties. That's all she
used to be known. Hair teeth and titties.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
That's a good combination.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Hair teeth and titties.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
That was who came.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
That could be the name of your special hair teeth
and titties and.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
Funny it laughs.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Right, Well, I forgot I gotta get a babysit on Jesus.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
That was always who you were.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
But Kim, I would love to see you do something
like that because I think I know you have it
in you. I've been knowing you a long time and
I've only ever seen you upset one time. Actually, but
I think that would be fantastic for your career. Actually,
people will see, Wait a minute, is that everybody gonna
say the same thing?
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Is that Kim Whidley. I'm gonna say, right right.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
You've heard it here.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
I do appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
You can catch Kim Widley on tour on kay Y
m W H I T L E Y. She also
has social media platforms. She also does a weekly is
It Weekly with Cherry Shepherd Too Funny Mama for sure.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeap every week drops the new podcast every Thursday.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
And Chris and Chris is their producer. We love Chris.
Chris is just the nicest guy. He always acknowledges me
whenever I'm in the lab. Whenever I get the ding
and I watch it, he always says, flame myro is
in the chat. I'm always in the chat listening and appreciate.
Thank you Kim, thank you from Laugh and Learn for
coming here joining us. I'm excited to see the new
movie with Adam Sandler. I cannot wait.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Right happy to give more too, coming out in July.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
July twenty fifth on Netflix until Adam sandlue the next
time you need a transactress in the movie, he ain't
just got. It's more than just one or two. I'm
here waiting for a phone call.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
I was going to do one of his movies years
ago with Lunel and a little person. But I called
the girl a midget, and she had a mail down
and started crying, and when left, I didn't know it was.
It was when the whole councel culture started. You couldn't
say the word midget, but she was a damn midget.
I should have said a little person. And I wasn't
being offensive. I just was used to saying midget.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Well that was the word back then, so I don't
wouldn't know that.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Oh honey, she was. She almost jumped out her chairs
start and started growing. Good guy, you what too fresh.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Bobby were knowing?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I don't know. It was very nice meeting you.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
I was so excited, Thank you, Bobby. I really had
a good time. Thank you playing.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
I didn't want to go deep. Yes, we didn't want
to go deep. We wanted to just let you. But Kim,
you look great. You look happy. That's what you look.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
And I love to see that because I've been knowing
you such a long time and I love to see
what my friends who have got a little season look happy.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yes, everybody, here go Bobby, Here go, Bobby. Well, thank
you all so much.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
I got your.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Last this is your last episode. Congratulations season four.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
We talked season five in a couple of weeks, So
thank you for being I guess, yes, thank you appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Don't miss an episode of Laugh and Learn.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
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Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Laugh
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Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Our ejective producer is Tiffany Hattish.
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